[01:25] <puff> I need an object-based drawing program.  QCad can't open the file I'm trying to draw on, and Inkscape doesn't seem to have a simple segmented-straight-lines tool.  And when I try to just draw some rectangles, it doesn't seem to actually take any of the stroke-fill settings.
[01:25] <puff> I'm just trying to mark up some floorplans that I was sent in PDF format.  I used gimp to convert it to PNG, I just want to draw some simple boxes or straight-sided shapes on it, things like "stairwell would go *here*".
[01:31] <David-A> have you tried "Dia Diagram Editor"? it is more for 2D diagrams, flow charts and such and not for 3D drawings or detailed artistic work.
[01:38] <puff> David-A: Thanks, I'll take a look at that.
[03:37] <xubuntu888> Quick question. I use AMD Catalyst software to get audio working over HDMI. The newest version no longer supports my video card. I have no other alternatives to get HDMI audio to work correct?
[05:06] <zruty> user@host:~$ start-pulseaudio-x11
[05:06] <zruty> Connection failure: Connection refused
[05:06] <zruty> pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused
[05:06] <zruty> ---- What can I try?
[05:46] <ewet> hi, what happned to xfce4-taskbar-plugin (http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-taskbar-plugin) there's not even a reference in 12.10 anymore -- is XFCE 4.10 incompatible?
[05:47] <unheeding> maybe you can find a PPA with it
[05:48] <ewet> I've been trying to, without any luck though ...
[05:53] <koegs> ewet: i can install xfce4-taskbar-plugin with apt-get...
[05:53] <ewet> wait a minute .. am I silly
[05:53] <unheeding> you are very silly
[05:58] <ewet> well, no: E: Unable to locate package xfce4-taskbar-plugin
[05:59] <unheeding> yeah i get the same thing here
[06:01] <ewet> I mean the source is making it very easy to build it on xubuntu but I'd rather know what's going on and install a package ...
[06:02] <koegs> ewet: the standard-taskbar ist shipped with the xfce4-panel
[06:02] <koegs> do you want to have to taskbar which behaves like the win7 superbar?
[06:02] <koegs> http://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-taskbar-plugin/
[06:03] <ewet> koegs, yep, that's the one I want
[06:04] <koegs> that version has never been shipped with ubuntu, i think
[06:05] <ewet> yeah ... that would make a lot of sense -- hence my question ;-)
[06:06] <koegs> hm, i have installed it via "git clone" and "checkinstall"
[06:07] <ewet> koegs, that's what I am about to do - the only thing I really need to know is: does it build on xubuntu 12.10? because the only info I read in README is about 12.04 ...
[06:08] <koegs> ewet: it does build, only difference from README, i would rather use "sudo checkinstall" instead of "sudo make install"
[06:09] <ewet> okay makes sense
[06:33] <ewet> working :)
[07:47] <msx> hi all! does anybody know why in the Xubuntu's 12.10 beta 2 there were this issue and how devs resolved it: "Duplicated partitions might be shown at Thunar sidebar and desktop"
[07:48] <msx> i'm having now the same issue on another distro with kernel 3.0 and can't figure out what's happening or how to solve it :P
[08:40] <frk7z> excuse me, anyone know how fix this issue?: "Duplicated partitions might be shown at Thunar sidebar and desktop"
[09:28] <apm1> i need some advice/tech support regarding a specific package
[09:28] <apm1> ! info intel microcode
[09:28] <apm1> what does intel-microcode actually do ?
[09:29] <apm1> i accidently installed it , and then removed it ? any chance i might brick my processor ?
[09:33] <ashNOP> apm1, as i know its some "firmware" updates for cpu, for example i download it from amd off. site for my cpu
[09:34] <apm1> ashNOP, ok and if you uninstall it does it have chance to brick the cpu ?
[09:35] <ashNOP> apm1, its not of course
[09:36] <ashNOP> apm1, its feature of kernel to load cpu microcode
[09:36] <ashNOP> i guess)
[09:37] <apm1> ashNOP, ok but is it installed as a kernel module or as a firmware inside some ROM in the cpu ?
[09:38] <ashNOP> apm1, i never interesting with it, try to find in web more about it
[09:39] <apm1> ashNOP, well i tried googling it and i couldn't get a straight theory about it ? :(
[09:39] <apm1> read the wikipedia page for it , a few topics from stackexchange and other forums but nothing specific :(
[09:40] <ashNOP> apm1, did u try to ask in irc channels?
[09:40] <ashNOP> apm1, #kernel or something like that
[09:41] <apm1> ashNOP, i did no body has an answer yet
[10:53] <Paul_46> does 12.10 not support cedarview (I believe - d2xx/n2xx integrated graphics controller) graphics atm?
[11:37] <Belserusk> Hi. If I have "unace" and "unrar" installed -- do I also need "unrar-free" and "unace-nonfree"? I am using Linux Mint 13 Xfce.
[11:38] <knome> Belserusk, this is not the mint support channel.
[11:38] <Belserusk> knome, But is would apply to Xubuntu also.
[11:38] <Belserusk> knome, the packages are on both.
[11:39] <knome> Belserusk, the answer is: depends on the rar packages you have. but pleae acknowledge that it's still not the mint support channel.
[11:40] <Belserusk> knome, If I posted the Q and did not add the "Linux Mint 13 Xfce" part, you'd answer my q better?
[11:42] <knome> Belserusk, the problem is not that we don't want to help any people out. the problem is that we don't know if you can really compare xubuntu and mint xfce even if it sounded like the stuff is the same.
[11:42] <knome> need to go now, see you all later
[11:42] <Belserusk> Bye knome
[12:24] <lJ6il> Hello. When i try to click on my usb stick in the left panel of thunar, it closes itself and gives me, in the terminal : segmentation error, (core dumped)
[12:26] <lJ6il> Actually i've got this message : http://dpaste.org/wBzYC/
[12:26] <lJ6il> Any idea ?
[12:38] <lJ6il> No one ?
[13:11] <fabianari> 123213
[13:11] <fabianari> 1232321
[13:11] <GridCube> ?
[13:11] <van> hey guyz need help with xubuntu on toshiba nb200
[13:11] <GridCube> !details
[13:11] <van> xubuntu is running fine
[13:12] <GridCube> :)
[13:12] <van> the problem arises when i play a video it stop and doesnt contiue unle i give a input like pressing any key
[13:13] <GridCube> it stops?
[13:13] <GridCube> or you get a black screen?
[13:13] <van> yup just hangs
[13:13] <van> no black screen
[13:13] <GridCube> mmmm maybe the screensaver its popping on and it doesnt show?
[13:13] <van> as soon as i press any key or touchpad i continue
[13:14] <van> *it continues
[13:14] <GridCube> why dont you try to disable it, and the power saving aswel
[13:14] <van> disabled screensaver
[13:14] <van> still its there tried dat
[13:14] <van> even removed power saver
[13:15] <GridCube> van: also tried the power management suspension?
[13:15] <van> tried installing gnome power manager but couldnt
[13:15] <van> yup
[13:15] <GridCube> van: ? why?
[13:15] <van> now m back to xfce power
[13:15] <GridCube> van: tried other players?
[13:15] <GridCube> mplayer?
[13:16] <van> yup smplayer vlc n default
[13:17] <van> any ideas?
[13:19] <van> shud i try updating to 12.10 m on 12.04
[13:20] <GridCube> mmkay
[13:21] <van> ??
[13:21] <GridCube> van: are you using the default video drivers or the propietary ones?
[13:21] <van> default i guess
[13:21] <van> how to check
[13:21] <GridCube> van: what version of xubuntu are you using?
[13:22] <van> 12.04
[13:22] <GridCube> good
[13:22] <GridCube> press alt-f2 and type: gksu jockey-gtk
[13:23] <van> no propietary drivers found
[13:24] <GridCube> on  a terminal do: lspci | grep "VGA"          and paste the result here please
[13:25] <van> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[13:26] <GridCube> ok, its intel, it should just use the generic drivers
[13:26] <GridCube> let me do some research
[13:26] <van> okay
[13:29] <GridCube> van: for what i can recollect it should just work out of the box :/ http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci:8086:27AE-VIDEO/
[13:30] <van> okay so what do u think might be the problm
[13:30] <van> same thing happens with music player also
[13:30] <van> although not that often
[13:31] <GridCube> it might be a memory issue?
[13:31] <GridCube> i dont really know
[13:31] <GridCube> sorry :(
[13:31] <van> ok
[13:31] <van> no problem
[13:31] <van> m glad u tried :)
[13:31] <GridCube> for me it sounds like you get somehow a suspension state
[13:32] <GridCube> and when you add an input it restarts its work
[13:32] <van> will using ubuntu or any other distro help
[13:32] <GridCube> i would keep checking that the powesaving its not popping in somewhere
[13:33] <GridCube> i would not kno
[13:33] <GridCube> w
[13:33] <van> ok can u help me install any other power saver
[13:33] <GridCube> you can try some live isos
[13:33] <van> like gnome power manager
[13:38] <van> no problm
[13:38] <van> hav a nice day/nght
[13:38] <GridCube> :) good luck
[13:39]  * GridCube is having connectivity issues
[14:13] <xubuntu172> In the process of installing Xubuntu 12.10 as a dual boot on my work computer. Love it!
[14:36] <GridCube> :)
[16:01] <sevenforall> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wLSJSaPT-OQ/UI_agXKHUpI/AAAAAAAABS0/UQWKzy2b0hM/s1112/uds-r_xubuntu_team.jpg
[16:01] <sevenforall> That's exactly how I imagined the team, lol
[16:03] <apm1> which one is knome ?
[16:08] <knome> middle one at the top.
[16:10] <knome> pleia2 - knome - micahg  -- and kalikiana from xfce at the bottom row
[17:05] <sevenforall> It's just you guys taking care of everything Xubuntu?
[17:06] <knome> sevenforall, the xubuntu team is about 10 members
[17:07] <sevenforall> Where are the others?
[17:07] <knome> at home :)
[17:08] <sevenforall> Hehe
[17:08] <knome> sevenforall, could you please head to #xubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat? cheers
[17:08] <sevenforall> Most certainly
[17:12] <unheeding> kswapd0 uses 100% of one CPU in Xfce.. it doesnt do this in other desktop environments....  any ideas?
[17:14] <sevenforall> One CPU?
[17:14] <unheeding> i have a dual core CPU
[17:14] <unheeding> and kswapd0 is using 50% (or one core)
[17:14] <unheeding> memory usage isn't even that high
[17:16] <sevenforall> On a sidenote, a single core isn't 'filled' with tasks with the 2nd core waiting to take over when it's full. If a process is using 50% of your CPU's capacity, it may be using both cores just as likely.
[17:17] <sevenforall> Anyway, I'll have a look at your issue
[17:17] <sevenforall> Known issue, apparently
[17:17] <unheeding> I can't kill the process or anything
[17:17] <Andy80> hi :)
[17:17] <knome> unheeding, can't kill, you mean even with sudo kill -s kill [pid] ?
[17:18] <Andy80> how can I set gedit as default editor in Xubuntu, instead of Leafpad?
[17:18] <unheeding> i haven't tried -s, i've tried -9
[17:18] <unheeding> i wasn't aware -s was an option
[17:19] <sevenforall> Andy80: If you're not using leafpad, best is just to remove it ("sudo apt-get remove leafpad" for example)
[17:19]  * sevenforall quickly installs Xubuntu in a VM because he noticed his knowledge is starting to lack
[17:20] <torax> I prefer "apt-get purge" If i just want to get rid of some software
[17:20] <Andy80> sevenforall: ok, just removed, but I can I know or set what is the new default editor?
[17:21] <Andy80> oh nope... it looks like the default one is automatically gedit :)
[17:21] <Andy80> thanks!
[17:22] <sevenforall> Andy80: If you remove leafpad, it will indeed automatically pick the next best option which would be Gedit in your case ;-)
[17:22] <sevenforall> torax: I must admit I haven't really looked into the differences between remove, purge and autoremove
[17:24] <torax> sevenforall: purge removes everything, including config files
[17:24] <torax> so basicly if you screw up just purge the software, reinstall and start over :P
[17:26] <sevenforall> Thought so
[17:26] <sevenforall> Thanks
[17:26] <sevenforall> And what about autoremove?
[17:28] <unheeding> it removes the packages that are no longer required that were installed as dependancies
[17:28] <unheeding> iirc
[17:41] <sevenforall> How does it know they are no longer needed?
[17:41] <sevenforall> Does it keep a record of which programs depend on them?
[17:42] <torax> yes
[17:42] <torax> not sure on details, but something like that
[18:11] <xubuntu370>   I had winxp on this box and it failed. thinking it was corrupted os I tried to reinstall, and it failed.. but then i tried to install Ubuntu, and I could not run it from the usb or from the hd.. did the mem test and found out one of my 512mb sticks (had 2) failed. I removed the bad one and was able to install ubuntu. but it was sluggish. I was trying to quickly setup my packet radio for Hurricane Sandy.. downloaded the Serial P
[18:13] <xubuntu370> use but the system kept locking up.. so Installed xubuntu next to it, planning on running out the next day to get ram for the box. put xubuntu on and now I am getting the following error with serial port terminal..  Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Permission denied  I would like to be able to use serial port terminal, or equivalent with Xubuntu so I can use my kpc3 packet terminal, connect to the com port on the back of my computer.  any
[18:13] <xubuntu370> +
[20:21] <ner0x> If I wanted to rsync an entire server from /, what directories would I want to skip?
[21:57] <unrar> ni
[21:57] <unrar> *hi
[23:28] <xubuntu456> hi i have one problem with the last version of ubuntu.
[23:28] <xubuntu456> Dont work wifi in my laptop