[01:55] Quintasan: pong, but I probably won't be around much the next 36 hours :( [01:55] SteveRiley: afiestas nice teatime :) [02:17] JontheEchidna: I don't know. [02:17] I can ask. [02:36] ScottK: debfx pointed me to this: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html [07:19] good morning [07:55] Tm_T obviously went to bed earlier than ScottK if he thinks there's anything good about morning. [08:05] ScottK: I went to sleep a bit before 0100 [08:05] and woke up before 0700 [08:06] That was several hourse befor I did. [08:06] (:) [08:07] claydoh: thanks! it was fun. [08:08] afiestas: enjoyed the interview, thanks for the invitation [08:08] SteveRiley: :p [08:11] afiestas: where are you? your "office" is conspicuously empty === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm [10:08] ::qt-bugs:: [1073845] qt application did unexpect action when maximize @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1073845 (by 孙渊汇) [10:16] bah, missed the session [10:22] yofel: SteveRiley volunteered to do everything === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm [10:25] SteveRiley++ [10:27] :P [10:33] udsslayer: bounced on e-mail about kdevelop packages to you [10:35] sure [10:36] * udsslayer isn't sure what xdebug does tbh, but I'll have a talk with the KDevelop people as to what can be done [10:37] yofel: ^ you know php stuff right? [10:40] it tries to print a backtrace in the error log, instead of just the failure message [10:41] Riddell: somebody's gotta take on the boring shit^H^H^H^H documentation so that the rest of you guys can keep cranking out kick ass software [10:41] + some other things [10:41] besides, i like to write. yes, i am a freak. [10:54] Quintasan_: you need to be in B4 M9 [10:55] hm [10:55] * yofel goes to listen to that too [10:56] except that they have no microphone there :( [10:57] * yofel listens to b3-m1 instead [11:00] heh [11:02] heard in b4-m7: "hybrid graphics should work, for some definitions of 'work,' modulo bugs" [11:03] I told you :P [11:08] udsslayer: I do? [11:08] yes [11:08] ** Kubuntu group photo, 13:00 on the hotel 1st floor bridge [11:08] udsslayer: I was kind of counting that agateau would wake me up when he did get up but that sort of did not work [11:08] haha [11:08] :D [11:08] you're still in your room? [11:09] or did you just arrive ? [11:09] well, I went to bed at 5 in the morning [11:09] right [11:09] udsslayer: room, looking for my Kubuntu shirt [11:09] ^_^ [11:10] Quintasan_: good thing I didn't stick around :P [11:10] would have not been able to attend anything this morning [11:10] actually I find it rather beneficial but that's a whole different topic [11:10] ScottK: ^ we need someone in the B4 M9 [11:10] s/the// [11:10] udsslayer meant: "ScottK: ^ we need someone in B4 M9" [11:11] Quintasan_: beneficial to the hotel, yes :P [11:11] udsslayer: I can go there right away [11:11] Quintasan_: oh ok [11:12] Quintasan_: I asked ogra how they got arm ppa's and how we can get one of those as well [11:12] Quintasan_: apparently the arm build is build as the root user on actual hardware [11:12] so it's unpossible at the moment for someone to get ARM for a public PPA [11:17] udsslayer: well, worst case we can just use raring-proposed, if Scott doesn't kill us [11:17] udsslayer: why do you need android iso ? [11:17] haha [11:18] Quintasan_: for N7 [11:18] my dear friends [11:18] Tm_T: ? [11:19] what do you say about the idea of having ubuntu classroom session about Kubuntu community? [11:19] I would be willing to do it if need be [11:19] Tm_T: at UDS or sometime later on? [11:19] sometime later on [11:19] didn't we sort of have that already during open week? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [11:19] yofel: but outside those events too [11:20] hm, I was thinking that those events gather people. But on the other hand we would at least have interested people listening if we do it outside the schedule [11:21] yup [11:21] not replacing, but as an addition [11:21] it could be from development POV, documentation POV, or whatever we want [11:27] udsslayer: this is totally not interesting [11:28] all I learned is that you need to package some tools and the resulting image won't be that much different from ac100 image [11:28] also, jenkins integration but that was done in ac100 so it's perfectly replicable [11:31] udsslayer, Riddell: We're in a little bit of trouble [11:32] nvflash does not accept anything bigger than 670mb because of some sort limitation [11:32] BUT [11:32] the tarball itself is 546mb [11:33] because after unpacking it adds some inodes etc [11:33] and it makes the whole thing be like 670mb [11:33] so we can't have more that 550 mb of data [11:33] that's what I undertstood [11:34] I believe we want to have a core system there and install everything later [11:37] Quintasan, didnt find you near the conference registration booth @ 11am [11:37] mikhas: I believe I'm in the left side of the same room :P [11:38] mikhas: jokes aside, sorry for that [11:38] only it's no longer 11am [11:38] np [11:38] I stayed up for unreasonable amounts of time [11:38] and kind of assumed my roomate waking up would wake me up as well [11:39] but that turned out to be quite ineffective [11:39] mikhas: If that's okay, I'd like to get this done after lunch [11:39] right, let me check after-lunch sessions [11:41] I believe those are lightning talks on the last day [11:41] yup [11:41] i.e go up the scene and say whatever the hell you want :P [11:42] how about 3pm then, after the lightening talks? [11:42] conference registration booth again [11:43] Quintasan: oic [11:43] mikhas: Okay. [11:43] great [11:43] that seems a bit of trouble :( [11:45] udsslayer: come to the damn android images room before the session ends [11:46] udsslayer: mfisch offered to explain that stuff in detail [11:46] and I want someone else to hear that as well [11:46] to make sure I'm not making things up :p [11:51] udsslayer: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [11:51] quintasan: what do you need? [11:51] oh, a second listener [11:52] weeeeee [11:52] SteveRiley: I just want to push stuff on shadeslayer instead of doing everthing alone :P [11:54] the sweet secrets of delegation [12:01] on our way for photo [12:02] Quintasan: coming [12:02] where are you [12:05] drat [12:06] udsslayer: photo! [12:06] ScottK: ! [12:07] mikhas: coming for a photo? [12:07] Tm_T: photo! [12:07] Riddell, where? when? [12:07] I am looking a bit sick though. [12:07] got the ubuflu [12:07] mikhas: just now on the hotel 1st floor bridge [12:08] uh ok, give me 3min [12:54] Hey all [13:06] agateau: I might need that mascot back btw [13:07] or toy or whatever [14:48] ok, has anyone seen sabdfl today? [14:48] should we do guerilla attack, one distracting him, one putting some Kubuntu sticker(?) in front of him and third taking a picture or something like that? [14:52] lol === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw [15:07] ScottK: notes about ubiquity are in the pad, please discuss =) highlight me on irc if you are typing a question for me =) [15:16] all of qapt's rdepends are transitioned to qapt2 in -proposed, but it still won't move to release :( [15:18] xnox: is manual lvm, crypt etc in 12.10? [15:58] from PyKDE4.kdecore import * [15:58] anyone know what provides PyKDE4.kdecore? [15:59] highvoltage: pykde? [15:59] ah seems like it was python-kde4 [16:08] agateau: did you have some initial kidmp packaging already? [16:08] (working on some know and was just hoping that I'm not doing duplicate work) [16:22] agateau: well, I at least have a lintian clean package for kidmp :) [16:28] ::workspace-bugs:: [1074033] Menu from menu button in titlebar opens in wrong position/direction on multiscreen setup @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1074033 (by mlx) [16:30] highvoltage: pykde4 is the source package. python-kde4 is the binary (we fixed the binary naming for python3 - that's python3-pykde4), === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ [16:41] ScottK: ah thanks [16:46] * apachelogger stumbles in and mumbles things about bugs everywhere === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw [16:54] apachelogger: fix them [16:54] too depressive [16:54] * apachelogger merges kubuntu settings [16:55] :P [16:55] mfw when udsslayer attempts to convince apachelogger to do something [16:55] :D [16:59] mfw? [17:00] kubuntu-netbook-settings vs. kubuntu-settings-netbook? [17:01] no opinions? [17:01] :O [17:08] apachelogger: didn't we decide to just merge it into -desktop ? [17:09] I mean, it won't have an effect anyway unless you run plasma-netbook [17:10] *shrug* [17:10] not like I care [17:10] BUT [17:11] say we add artwork to one of them that is not relevant to any other [17:12] to that extent I'd totally have a base-settings package upon which everything cascades [17:18] they all end up on the same image... so that sounds like heavy over-engineering [17:18] well, at least if you then plan to still keep desktop and netbook seperate [17:19] might make sense for active [17:23] yofel: for desktop and netbook merging would make sense [17:24] however the point of base would be to have less unrelated crap for active [17:24] also low-fat [17:32] ::workspace-bugs:: [1073071] vlc cannot disable power management features @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1073071 (by Manuel López-Ibáñez) === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw [18:53] JontheEchidna: any reason why you made libmuonprivate1 depend on kdesudo? [18:53] it invokes the binary to run software-properties-kde [18:54] *libmuonprivate1 invokes kdesudo to run software-properties-kde [18:54] well, shouldn't sofware-properties-kde rather depend on kdesudo? Or would that conflict with gksu? [18:55] see the discussion in #kubuntu for why I'm askin [18:55] g [18:55] software-properties-kde itself doesn't need kdesudo, and libmuonprivate1 is actually calling kdesudo, so it would seem proper that libmuonprivate1 would invoke it [18:56] software-properties-kde just needs to run as root [18:58] the complaint was that muon is removed once kdesudo is removed [18:58] although the issue with kdesudo is something I'm not even sure should be fixed... [18:59] JontheEchidna: wouldn't a recommends be enough? [18:59] (or did users break stuff with that?) [18:59] if it wasn't there, the menu item to launch software-properties-kde wouldn't work [18:59] I'm not particularly sympathetic to that case at any rate, kdesudo could fit on a floppy 10 times [19:02] (the menu item within Muon, I didn't make that clear) [19:15] *sigh* === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ === vHanda_ is now known as vHanda [23:00] yofel, Quintasan: did you guys found out if my revisions were causing that problems?