[08:16] <ev> pitti: are the crash-digger retracers having difficulty with ddebs.u.c? We're getting size mismatches on the Daisy retracers
[08:18] <ev> pitti: ps. can you renew my membership in apport-hackers?
[11:57] <slangasek> xnox, ogra_: OOI, why do we need make_ext4fs?  shouldn't it be possible to generate these using the standard tools?
[12:12] <vibhav> xnox: ping?
[12:21] <vibhav> xnox: Anyways, what does "50 shades of python mean?" :)
[13:25] <hallyn> jdstrand: hey do you know where mdeslaur is?
[14:05] <Riddell> ping jasoncwarner_ Daviey
[14:05] <Riddell> product managers meeting
[14:29] <janimo> slangasek, the ones flashed by fastboot are not proper ext4 filesystems, but some sparse representations of them
[14:29] <janimo> so they do not take up as much as the actual partition size
[14:32] <cjwatson> ogra_: I upgraded my nexus7 to raring (after pinning the ubuntu-nexus7 PPA) and found that Unity failed to start because the runtime linker failed to find libnvwsi.so for /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test, even though /usr/lib/nvidia-tegra still seems to be in ld.conf.d and that library is there.  I worked around it for now by symlinking that library into /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/, but I assume that's wrong.  Is this known?
[14:32] <cjwatson> (There was also an onboard regression with python3.3, and I just uploaded a backport of the upstream fix for that)
[15:13] <barry> stgraber, https://launchpad.net/~pythoneers/+archive/py33exp/+build/3947999
[15:35] <barry> stgraber, https://launchpad.net/~pythoneers/+archive/py33exp/+build/3948025
[15:36] <stgraber> barry: done
[15:37] <barry> stgraber, thanks!
[16:08] <Laney> anyone near barry?
[16:08] <Laney> fancy asking him if I can borrow his spare macbook charger for the evening/night? :-)
[16:08] <Laney> #talkingaboutudsinubuntudevel
[16:15] <slangasek> janimo: ok; but we also have ext2simg, why wouldn't we use that to post-process a normal filesystem instead of using a different tool for the fs creation?
[16:16] <ogra-nx7> slangasek, we do ?
[16:19] <slangasek> ogra-nx7: er, you can find it at the same place as make_ext4fs, can't you? :)
[16:20] <slangasek> ogra-nx7, janimo: I'm saying I would prefer, from an obsessively foundation-y perspective, to be able to use the standard mkfs.ext4 and post-process rather than using a separate implementation of the filesystem creation bits
[16:20] <ogra-nx7> slangasek, ah, i though you referred to something existing inubuntu
[16:21]  * ogra-nx7 is missin backlog
[16:22] <barry> Laney, ping
[16:22] <Laney> ello
[16:22] <barry> i have my spare charger up in my room.  as long as i can get it back before 9am tomorrow, you can borrow it :)
[16:22] <Laney> cheers
[16:22] <barry> meet me in the hall after the plenary?
[16:22] <Laney> i'll meet you downstairs from the auditorium after this?
[16:22] <Laney> :-)
[16:22] <barry> +1 :)
[16:23] <ogra-nx7> slangasek, i would prefer to use the tool thats guaranteed to work with fastboot, if google makes changes to fastboot itself the tool will reflect them in a new version as well
[16:24] <slangasek> ogra-nx7: you think ext2simg isn't guaranteed to work with fastboot?
[16:26] <ogra-nx7> i havent tried it, assumingly it will also get the changes indeed, but i expect it to heavily modify the fs (adding inodes to support the bigger fs size etc)
[16:27] <ogra-nx7> i'll take a look when i'm home on sunday
[16:30] <slangasek> ogra-nx7: ok, cool :)
[16:38] <ogra-nx7> aha
[16:38]  * ogra-nx7 just took a quick look
[16:39] <ogra-nx7> seems it would need the full sized image and then strips off stuff
[16:40] <ogra-nx7> that means we need to create 8/16/32G images and shrink them afterwards with ext2simg
[16:40] <ogra-nx7> quite diskspace demanding
[16:41] <slangasek> well, yes, that's implied
[16:41] <slangasek> but creating an 8GB image doesn't actually take 8GB of disk either
[16:41] <slangasek> because the filesystem you're creating it on supports sparse files
[16:41] <ogra-nx7> but yeah, the code looks a lot simpler
[16:47] <slangasek> hallyn: ah, no bug in libvirt; I just didn't have xmlns:qemu declared, figured it out by comparing with jk's setup
[17:34] <Debolaz> Who is responsible for the development of empathy? Where can I look up things like emails for that?
[17:56] <dobey> Debolaz: gnome.org
[17:58] <psusi> cjwatson: Robert Collins filed a bug against grub2 because grub-probe doesn't understand /dev/nbd0.. my first thought was that this is to be expected since nbt isn't bios accessible so grub won't assign it an (hdX) identifier... but now that I think about it, I don't see a reason not to make it do so, do you?
[17:59] <psusi> so now I'm thining of changing the but report to a wishlist feature request for grub to go ahead and assign an (hdX) number to nbd devices
[18:01] <Debolaz> dobey: Hrmm.... Why do I get the feeling going to them will be sticking my hand into a hornets nest... Hehe.
[23:21] <skypce> hello, i need help for run unity-2d-panel standalone, i have troubles with logout and shutdown (it wait 30 or more seconds) and reboot, i have the source code of unity-2-panel but i dont know what file control it?