[06:28] <sakhi> Morning
[06:30] <inetpro> good morning sakhi
[06:30] <inetpro> oh and good morning everyone else
[06:33] <Kilos> morning guys and gals
[06:34] <Squirm> morning
[06:54] <magespawn> good morning y'all
[06:55] <Kilos> hi magespawn all good?
[06:55] <magespawn> yes and you?
[06:56] <Kilos> yes ty just put 8ta 2+1 so good for a coupla months unless something funny happens
[06:56] <Kilos> was down to 20mB
[06:57] <Kilos> stressed some
[06:58] <Kilos> but 8ta stupid like mtn. data goes till end of next calender month not 2 months from purchase date like voda
[06:58] <Kilos> hiya Trixar_za 
[06:58] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[06:59] <Trixar_za> Well 8ta's cycles aren't so bad. I still have R125 'free airtime" until Saturday. My data is nearly up, so that's a good thing
[07:00] <Kilos> yeah its just if i had got the 2+1 yesterday it would last 1 month and 1 day not 2 months
[07:01] <Kilos> gotta get at month start
[07:02] <Trixar_za> I'd probably burn through that deal in less than a month - knowing me
[07:02] <Kilos> whew
[07:02] <Trixar_za> Especially with the prospect that I could make 1200 USD
[07:03] <Kilos> only downloading iso's uses mine
[07:03] <Kilos> wow how?
[07:03] <Kilos> you might have won thingie
[07:04] <Kilos> i dont trust any of them. goosie always tells me read the fine print
[07:04] <Kilos> hehe its too small for me to see
[07:08] <Kilos> this bundle might struggle some as i wanna try 12.10
[07:10] <Kilos> i wonder why they dropped the right click format option for usb devices on 12.04
[07:11] <Kilos> lo Vince-0 
[07:11] <Vince-0> Haai Kilos
[07:11]  * Kilos greets superfly too also as well
[07:12] <superfly> morning Kilos
[07:16] <Kilos> dag Kerbero Banlam bakuman 
[07:16] <Kilos> Symmetria, you didnt answer me
[07:16]  * Kilos cries
[07:21] <magespawn> Kilos is there not someone who can download it for you
[07:23] <Kilos> magespawn, im getting the dvd from our main chick but wanna try kubuntu and see if they fixed the little probs i have with it
[07:24] <magespawn> ahh right
[07:25] <Kilos> they say said sound will be fixed in quassel so then kde could be good for me
[07:25] <Kilos> but still got maverick on other pc for the serious work
[07:27] <superfly> Kilos: you want CDs/DVDs?
[07:27] <Kilos> of kubuntu superfly ?
[07:27] <Kilos> dvd please
[07:28] <Kilos> got dvd on here
[07:28] <superfly> Kilos: of whatever you want. Jy moet maar net sê and I'll organise
[07:29] <Kilos> ai ty superfly would like a remastersys dvd of your kde
[07:29] <Kilos> hehe
[07:29] <Kilos> that up to date and got alla goodies installed
[08:13] <inetpro> Kilos: wb
[08:13] <inetpro> by the way, there is no difference between the timeframe of a prepaid bundle of Vodacom or 8ta, they all work together 
[08:13] <charlvn> good morning
[08:14] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[08:14]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:14] <inetpro> they all expire at the end of the next calendar month
[08:14] <charlvn> hi Kilos, inetpro 
[08:14] <inetpro> hi charlvn
[08:14] <Kilos> no man inetpro voda is 2 months from date of purchse or have they changed that too
[08:14] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[08:15] <Kilos> no what?
[08:15] <Kilos> hi charlvn 
[08:15] <Banlam> mybroadband did an article on this a month or two ago
[08:15] <Banlam> everyone is different
[08:15] <Banlam> vodacom is the most lenient
[08:15] <inetpro> well, no they don't last 2 months from purchase and no they have not changed
[08:15] <Banlam> ir is this data specificallty?
[08:15] <Banlam> or
[08:16] <inetpro> Banlam: data
[08:16] <Kilos> oh yes used to be from date of purchase not just till end of next calender month
[08:16] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[08:17] <Kilos> hmm
[08:17] <Kilos> ok not arguing. use 8ta now
[08:18] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn!
[08:18] <Kilos> but still member it was 2 months from date of purchase im sure
[08:18] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[08:18] <Maaz> Kilos: There isn't a pot on
[08:18] <Kilos> eish
[08:18] <Kilos> Maaz, swine
[08:18] <Maaz> If you call me names Kilos you will make you're own coffee and do your own googling!
[08:18]  * inetpro have been using both Vodacom and 8ta prepaid for a long time now, they both expire at the end of the following month
[08:19] <Kilos> have/has
[08:19] <inetpro> lol
[08:19] <Kilos> lol
[08:19] <inetpro> I use Vodacom on me mobile and 8ta at home 
[08:19] <Banlam> my memories aalign with inetpro
[08:19] <inetpro> you should never buy at the end of the month!
[08:20] <Kilos> starnge i member things like your data will expire on the 17th
[08:20] <Kilos> strange
[08:20] <Kilos> must really be going bonkers
[08:21] <inetpro> Kilos: never
[08:21] <inetpro> well not for a very long time
[08:22] <Kilos> define very long
[08:22] <inetpro> I don't know how long but never is just to long a time
[08:22] <Kilos> lol
[08:23] <Kilos> i have memories os saying voda lekker because its 2 months from purchase
[08:23]  * inetpro 's memory is not long enough to even grok never
[08:23] <Kilos> look in logs from 8.10 time
[08:23] <Kilos> google is your friend
[08:23] <Kilos> hehe
[08:24] <Kilos> but its fine, gang up on me i got broad shoulders
[08:25] <inetpro> golden rule is to buy on the 1st of the month to get maximum value for money, until such time as they change the policy
[08:26] <Kilos> ya but i came short so stretched last bit
[08:28] <Kilos> hi drussell tumbleweed i hope the right click format option for usb devices is gonna return
[08:28] <drussell> Kilos: from the launcher?
[08:28] <drussell> Kilos: btw, hiya from UDS in copenhagen :oD
[08:29] <superfly> hiya drussell! :-)
[08:29] <inetpro> drussell: wb
[08:29] <drussell> superfly: hiya :o)
[08:29] <drussell> inetpro: thx :o)
[08:29] <Kilos> nope on maverick you could right click a mounted device and format with a name in place of new volume
[08:29] <tumbleweed> drussell: ohi. I'm in B3-M1
[08:29] <inetpro> drussell: how many people attending this time around?
[08:29] <drussell> tumbleweed: hehe I'm in B3-M8 in an xorg session
[08:30] <drussell> inetpro: over 500 afaik
[08:30] <tumbleweed> ah, we're just giving mlankhorst xorg upload rights
[08:30] <drussell> tumbleweed: cool
[08:31] <Kilos> or even from the launcher would be nice drussell not just safely remove
[08:35] <Kilos> hehe yeah i saw your info here dave@conference etc
[08:35]  * Kilos loves xchat
[08:42] <Kilos> tumbles doesnt change his info
[08:42] <Kilos> we gotta smell where he is
[08:42] <Kilos> SmilyBorg, did you say hey there this morning
[08:42] <Kilos> ?
[08:43]  * Kilos forgets , these peeps chat so much
[08:43] <SmilyBorg> Hey
[08:43] <SmilyBorg> sorry, been rather busy
[08:45] <Kilos> you forgiven
[09:21] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[09:21] <Cantide> hello
[09:21] <Cantide> i am CanStudy right now actually
[09:21] <Cantide> '-'
[09:21] <Kilos> good lad
[09:41] <charlvn> hi Cantide 
[09:48] <Cantide> hello :)
[09:49] <Cantide> i have an exam in 2 hours
[09:49] <Cantide> so i'm preparing for it 'ㅁ'
[09:49] <Kilos> good luck
[09:51] <Cantide> thanks :)
[09:56] <charlvn> Cantide: ganbatte ne!
[09:57] <Cantide> arigatougozaimasuuu
[10:05] <Cantide> time to go actually ;_;
[10:05] <Cantide> 후후후후
[10:09] <Squirm> hi
[10:09] <Kilos> hi Squirm where you been
[10:09] <Squirm> around
[10:09] <Kilos> ah
[10:30] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[10:30] <psydroid> hi Squirm
[10:30] <psydroid> hi Ludo
[10:30] <psydroid> hi everyone
[10:31] <Squirm> hi psydroid 
[10:31] <Squirm> yeah Kilos, kind of busy, etc
[10:31] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[10:32] <Kilos> lol i just thought seeing as you said hi again you came back from somewhere
[10:32] <Kilos> ludo is a lurker
[10:32] <Kilos> mostly
[10:41] <inetpro> Kilos: eh.... I think you chased him out of here now
[10:42] <Kilos> lol
[10:42] <Kilos> i think he has chatted once
[10:42] <Kilos> to me anyway
[10:42] <Kilos> maybe im distracting him
[10:43] <Kilos> hell be back
[10:43] <psydroid> hi inetpro
[10:43] <psydroid> or not
[10:43] <inetpro> psydroid: wb
[10:43] <psydroid> ty
[10:44] <Kilos> na lurker are nosy peeps
[10:44] <psydroid> haha
[10:44] <Kilos> why go to a movie if you not gonna watch
[10:45] <charlvn> lol no he just got a ping timeout
[10:45] <Kilos> ah for the popcorn
[10:45] <charlvn> his connection not so good
[10:45] <charlvn> hi psydroid, long time no speak to
[10:46] <psydroid> hi charlvn, yeah, I've been pretty busy lately
[10:46] <charlvn> no problem, i had that a month or two ago, was pretty scarce myself
[10:46] <Kilos> Superhuman, at least once a week you gotta say something exciting
[10:46] <charlvn> i got a new apartment that i needed to move into, had to paint the whole place out, get a floor in, etc
[10:46] <Superhuman> something exciting
[10:46] <charlvn> then move all my stuff... lol
[10:47] <psydroid> yeah
[10:47] <superfly> ohi Superhuman
[10:47] <Kilos> like hi all im still standing
[10:47] <charlvn> hi Superhuman 
[10:47] <Kilos> yeah yeah yeah
[10:47] <Superhuman> hey superfly
[10:47] <charlvn> Kilos: yup
[10:47] <Superhuman> hi charlvn
[10:47] <Kilos> see you are a popular oldie
[10:48] <psydroid> I'm preparing a move to another country, so finishing things here and preparing for a job hunt is most of what occupies my time
[10:48] <psydroid> hi superfly
[10:48] <psydroid> hi Superhuman
[10:48] <superfly> ohi psydroid
[10:48] <charlvn> psydroid: oh wow! you are living in the netherlands now right?
[10:48] <Superhuman> hi psydroid
[10:48] <charlvn> well you have a telfort ip so unless it's a vpn :)
[10:49]  * Superhuman thinks charlvn is spying on us all
[10:49] <charlvn> Superhuman: no i use irssi so i see the hostnames of people joining / leaving :)
[10:49] <charlvn> i irc through my server so nobody can see where i am :P
[10:50] <charlvn> not that i care in any case
[10:51]  * Superhuman quassels through a server in Germany
[10:51] <psydroid> charlvn, yes, I'm planning to move to Poland, if not permanently as in forever then at least temporarily
[10:52] <Kilos> whats in poland thats the attraction psydroid 
[10:52] <Kilos> poles
[10:52] <Kilos> we plant them here for fencing
[10:53] <psydroid> poles are definitely a major attraction
[10:53] <charlvn> lol Kilos 
[10:53] <charlvn> psydroid: interesting, never been to poland myself
[10:53] <charlvn> Superhuman: same here, i have a vps at hetzner
[10:53] <charlvn> except i use ssh+irssi+screen instead of quassel
[10:54] <charlvn> psydroid: i always heard poland was a fairly poor country with terrible bandwidth
[10:54] <charlvn> psydroid: not sure if that is still the case but i have seen some amazing pictures from there
[10:55] <charlvn> psydroid: i heard some good things about linux desktops being sold there being quite a normal thing
[10:55] <Superhuman> charlvn: can't have worse bandwidth that here...I'm sure they have fibre at least
[10:55] <psydroid> charlvn, I was there this summer, it's fairly poor but it's not like completely uncivilised and the country looks pretty nice indeed
[10:55] <charlvn> psydroid: yeah that sounds about right... i know some poles, good people\
[10:55] <charlvn> some very educated people there as well, not stupid at all
[10:56] <Superhuman> We do some coding outsourcing to a Polish company...no complaints from our side.
[10:56] <psydroid> charlvn, the people there have been very good to me, even when I was out of money and didn't speak the language, I can't say much bad about them
[10:57] <charlvn> Superhuman: south africa doesn't have fibre? i used to work for an mweb service provider, we had fibre running right into the office from telkom
[10:57] <charlvn> and this was like 8 years ago
[10:58] <charlvn> psydroid: sounds good, people in poorer countries often have a lot more of a caring attitude towards others, in rich countries people seem to have an f-you attitude
[10:58] <Superhuman> yeah, but most European nations have fibre to the homes
[10:58] <charlvn> Superhuman: that's BS - i do not have fibre in my home and i live in a "wealthy" eu country
[10:58] <charlvn> Superhuman: not sure where you heard that... but i have to say, a lot of homes do in fact have fibre to the home in NL at least
[10:58] <Superhuman> that's why I said most
[10:59] <Kilos> lol
[10:59] <charlvn> Superhuman: NL is one of the better connected countries in europe so if it's not even that common here yet i doubt it would be in the rest of europe
[10:59] <Kilos> inetpro, have you sprayed your banweed yet
[10:59] <charlvn> Superhuman: the well connected countries are mostly in northern europe and scandinavia
[10:59] <Superhuman> ah ok
[11:00] <Kilos> it works slowly from the leaves back
[11:00] <Kilos> where the vikings come from
[11:00] <Kilos> ?
[11:00] <charlvn> Kilos: norway, supposedly
[11:01] <charlvn> but norway is also a super-wealthy non-EU country
[11:01] <charlvn> they have gas they pump out of the north sea
[11:01] <Superhuman> Vikings came from Norway and Northern Germany. When it was called Celtic-Germany (if I remember my ancient history well enough)
[11:02] <Kilos> same celts that went to ireland?
[11:02] <psydroid> and originally came from a region in South East Europe and Asia Minor
[11:02] <charlvn> Superhuman: makes sense, schleswig-holstein mostly
[11:03] <Kilos> holstein is where cows come from
[11:03] <charlvn> cows?
[11:03] <psydroid> I was there this summer too
[11:03] <charlvn> i hope you're not referring to the women :)
[11:03] <Kilos> those you milk methinks
[11:03] <psydroid> on my way to Denmark
[11:03] <Kilos> oh no friesland
[11:03] <charlvn> oh my goodness, i _really_ hope you're not referring to the women now :D
[11:03] <psydroid> hahaha
[11:03] <charlvn> Kilos: yes the fresians are largely farmers
[11:03] <Kilos> lol
[11:03] <psydroid> they are nice too :D
[11:04] <charlvn> not very well liked in the rest of NL though
[11:04] <Kilos> and great horses charlvn 
[11:04] <Kilos> had a friesian stallion once
[11:05] <Kilos> somewhere that holstein still sticks to milk cows as well
[11:06] <Kilos> maybe they purified the friesland cows to produce more
[11:06] <Kilos> watery milk not lekker like jerseys
[11:07] <Kilos> but good for peeps who sit in front of a pc all day so they dont get too fat
[11:08]  * Superhuman doesn't sit in front of a pc all day, most of the time I scream at the screen and throw stuff around
[11:08] <Superhuman> good exercise, for you and your fellow office workers (mostly keeps their reaction times good)
[11:13] <inetpro> Superhuman: wb
[11:13] <Superhuman> hey inetpro
[11:15]  * inetpro with the super{human,fly} both awake now has to be careful with super[tab]
[11:16]  * Superhuman is off (half day for Doc visit)
[11:19] <Kilos> hehe
[11:19] <psydroid> charlvn, I had actually been thinking of going to Norway but as usual something came in between that compelled me to move to Poland instead, otherwise I wouldn't have thought of going to live there
[11:21] <magespawn> Superhuman: some body throw something and your reaction not quick enough?
[11:22] <psydroid> hello magespawn
[11:23] <magespawn> hey psydroid
[11:57] <mazal> elo all
[12:06] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[12:07] <mazal> Middag oom Kilos
[12:10] <mazal> I haven't heard anything back from my query from Telkom. BUT , oddly enough , last night when I got home I wanted to send mail and my isp wasn't working again
[12:11] <mazal> This forced me to get into the router , same as Monday , and my eye caught that my router is at 1mb
[12:11] <mazal> Can you believe it. Just yesterday we talked about it and this must have happened Tuesday or yesterday
[12:12] <Squirm> mazal: we were upgraded to 1Mb about 2 weeks ago
[12:12] <mazal> Well it looks like mine happened yesterday , but my work line is still 384k ???
[12:13] <mazal> So they might be busy now with our exchange , from what I can see at my side that is
[12:13] <mazal> So this gives me a little bit more courage to go over to 1.10
[12:13] <mazal> 12.10 even
[12:14] <mazal> Just need a build pc now , I never build on my main machine
[12:15] <mazal> So gonna try the install to usb thing
[12:22] <charlvn> ok back, sorry had lunch in between :)
[12:23] <charlvn> psydroid: makes sense, as long as you can find work and a place to live, you can live anywhere for a while right?
[12:23] <charlvn> psydroid: it's fun to get experiences in different countries / cultures / languages
[12:43] <mazal> Apart from Gimp , what would you guys recommend to use for basic pics work (copying and pasting etc.) ?
[12:48] <magespawn> Inkscape, maybe?
[12:50] <mazal> Will look into that one ta
[12:52] <mazal> Bye all
[12:52] <mazal> God bless
[13:09] <superfly> magespawn: I wouldn't use inkscape
[13:10] <magespawn> was the only other i use regularly
[13:10] <superfly> Maaz: tell mazal you can try showfoto which is an offshoot of Digikam
[13:10] <Maaz> superfly: Okay, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[13:28] <charlvn> wow nice, you can buy a .eu domain for 1 euro!
[13:28] <charlvn> just bought one :)
[13:28] <charlvn> sorry, completely OT for this channel i guess :)
[13:29] <magespawn> where charlvn?
[13:36] <Kilos> lol
[13:42] <Kilos> charlvn, what does one do with a domain
[13:48] <Kilos> no energy to google
[13:48] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[13:48]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[13:49] <Kilos> Maaz, grandpas please
[13:49] <Maaz> Kilos: Go get it yourself!
[13:49] <Kilos> grr
[13:49] <superfly> Kilos: you put a website on it/behind it
[13:50] <Kilos> oh ty superfly like the sites yola supply
[13:50] <Kilos> is that a domain
[13:50] <superfly> Kilos: a domain is the URL of the site
[13:51] <superfly> ubuntu-za.org is a domain (or rather, a domain name)
[13:51] <Kilos> oh
[13:52] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[13:53] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[13:53] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[13:56] <charlvn> magespawn: https://www.transip.nl/
[13:58] <charlvn> Kilos: you can host a website or receive email, run an irc server, etc at a nice hostname of your choosing
[13:58] <charlvn> Kilos: providing it's available for registration, of course :)
[13:59] <charlvn> sorry only read superfly's reply now
[13:59] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[13:59]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[14:00] <magtie> Hi Kilos & All
[14:00] <charlvn> hi magespawn 
[14:00] <charlvn> gah
[14:00] <charlvn> hi magtie 
[14:00] <Kilos> hi magtie 
[14:00] <charlvn> sorry magespawn, autocomplete fail :)
[14:00] <magespawn> no worries
[14:01] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[14:01] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[14:01] <Kilos> Maaz, with rusks
[14:01] <Maaz> There is a packet of Ouma's in the cupboard Kilos help yourself
[14:01] <Kilos> ty
[14:03] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn and Kilos!
[14:03] <Kilos> Maaz, baie dankie
[14:03] <Maaz> Plesier Kilos
[14:06] <magespawn> looks like we may be getting more rain again
[14:06] <magespawn> charlvn that about what you pay for a domain from google apps
[14:07] <magespawn> through enom or godaddy
[14:08] <charlvn> magespawn: 1 euro? that's the cheapest i've ever seen a .eu as yet
[14:08] <charlvn> magespawn: i paid about 10 dollar to renew my mom's .com domain recently via godaddy
[14:08] <magespawn> i was working on the sa exchange rate
[14:09] <charlvn> magespawn: ??
[14:09] <magespawn> sorry 1 euro not ten my mistake
[14:09] <charlvn> magespawn: it's about R11,21 according to google
[14:10] <charlvn> np
[14:10] <magespawn> for some reason my brain worked on 10 euro
[14:15] <psydroid> charlvn, I usually adapt quickly and am not bad at learning languages so I guess being in a state of motion comes natural to me :)
[15:06] <charlvn> l8r
[15:06] <Kilos> toods
[15:19] <Kilos> wbb
[15:20] <inetpro> hmm
[16:39] <Kilos> you home magespawn ?
[16:41] <Kilos> evening magtie 
[16:41] <superfly> hi Kilos
[16:42] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[16:42]  * superfly is home, with new brakes on his car, but the grinding sound still there
[16:42] <Kilos> can you pin point where
[16:43] <Kilos> which wheeel?
[16:43] <Kilos> evening SmilyBorg_h 
[16:43] <Kilos> wheel too superfly 
[16:43] <superfly> Kilos: front left
[16:43] <superfly> (if you're sitting in the car)
[16:44] <Kilos> all the time while going straight or mainly when turning to one side superfly 
[16:45] <superfly> Kilos: all the time
[16:46] <Kilos> maybe wheel bearings
[16:46] <Kilos> can you jack it up and spin that wheel
[16:46] <Kilos> maybe something too close to rim or so
[16:47] <superfly> it only really makes that sound when it gets to 50kph
[16:47] <superfly> I'm taking the car in on Monday again, I'll make sure he knows about it
[16:47] <SmilyBorg_h> hey all
[16:48] <superfly> hi SmilyBorg
[16:55] <Kilos> methinks wheel bearing superfly ,  
[16:55] <Kilos> they get noisier as they get worse till the grind all the time
[16:56] <Kilos> get worse after 50
[16:56] <superfly> Kilos: I'll make sure the mechanic knows about it. He didn't driver the car far or fast enough today to hear it
[16:57] <Kilos> haha how do you eat an elephant
[16:57] <Kilos> bite by bite
[17:00] <Trixar_za> Somebody just watched 7de Laan
[17:02] <Trixar_za> I always find it funny how everybody in a series or soapy end up knowing and using the same sayings
[17:02] <Trixar_za> Bad writing I suppose
[17:03] <Cantide> Trixar_za, are you South African?
[17:03] <Cantide> oh
[17:03] <Cantide> lol
[17:03] <Cantide> i take that back
[17:03] <Cantide> haha
[17:03] <Cantide> i thought i was looking at another channel -.- where few South Africans lurk
[17:04] <Trixar_za> Yes Cantide, I'm South African :P
[17:04] <Cantide> :p
[17:05] <Trixar_za> Gerrit Engelbrecht
[17:05] <Trixar_za> Ek hoor daar is 'n nuwe seksposisie genaamd SHARKS; jy le die heeltyd bo en kom dan 2de hahaha <--- Bwahahaha
[17:05] <Cantide> hahahahahaha
[17:05] <Cantide> ouch
[17:05] <Cantide> I am from Durban, so that cut deep :p
[17:19] <Kilos> lol
[17:19] <Kilos> you also watch Trixar_za ?
[17:19] <Trixar_za> Yes
[17:19] <Trixar_za> :P
[17:29] <Kilos> so you clever guys. i have a partition that should be /storage but somehow ended up as /_storage
[17:29] <Kilos> is there a way to rename it? 
[17:30] <Kilos> or format as /storage
[17:30] <Kilos> they killed the right click format option
[17:30] <Kilos> grrr
[17:30] <Kilos> in unity this is
[17:34] <Kilos> if one formats it now it changes the uuid i think then there more probs
[17:34] <Kilos> uid or uuid
[17:35] <Kilos> daai ding
[17:36] <Kilos> gparted only gives the option of adding a label
[17:37] <Trixar_za> umount it and then mount it again?
[17:37] <Kilos> how will that change the _
[17:38] <Trixar_za> Well if it's label is storage and it added the _ before it because of some issue, then remounting it should change it to /storage again/
[17:38] <Trixar_za> again.*
[17:39] <Trixar_za> And... instantly I think of regular expression
[17:39] <Kilos> ok ill try that ty
[17:41] <Kilos> mount is stupid
[17:41] <Kilos> wants to find it in fstab
[17:42] <Kilos> mount: can't find /media/storage in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[17:42] <Kilos> mount: can't find /media/_storage in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[17:43] <Kilos> gui mounts after hunting
[17:44] <Kilos> when mounted from home it shows as /media/storage but cant use it unless the /_storage is used
[17:44] <Kilos> gparted showed that quirk
[17:47] <Trixar_za> Weird :/
[17:47] <Kilos> yeah
[17:47] <Kilos> hehe
[17:48] <Kilos> thats my life on pcs. if it can go wrong it will
[17:48] <Kilos> helped with the learning curve though
[17:59] <smileE17> hallo :D
[18:00] <Kilos> hi smileE17 
[18:01] <smileE17> I made a lot of "update" edits to software articles on wikipedia today :)
[18:01] <smileE17> it was needed :P
[18:02] <Kilos> good
[18:02] <Kilos> whats an update edit
[18:02] <Kilos> to fix edits that werent right to start with?
[18:19] <smileE17> Kilos: no :) to correct 'current' version numbers :)
[18:19] <Kilos> ah
[18:19] <smileE17> if firefox article is at 14.0, i edit it to say: latest version is 16.0
[18:19] <smileE17> :)
[18:20] <Kilos> that one good thing about kubuntu. no firefox updating every 2 weeks
[18:24] <smileE17> yeaah ;)
[18:25] <smileE17> :p
[18:33] <inetpro> Kilos: where do you get that from?
[18:33] <Kilos> what inetpro ?
[18:33] <inetpro> 01/11 20:20:53 <Kilos> that one good thing about kubuntu. no firefox updating every 2 weeks
[18:33] <inetpro> kubuntu uses the same repositories
[18:34] <Kilos> isnt firefox something you have to manually install
[18:34] <Kilos> defaultwise i mean
[18:34] <inetpro> ahh
[18:34] <Kilos> my kde uses some other browser and opera
[18:34] <inetpro> but who would not want to install firefox?
[18:34] <Kilos> me
[18:35] <inetpro> it's still the best browser out there
[18:35] <Kilos> even removed in unity
[18:36] <smileE17> it's default in the standard ubuntu, Kilos :p
[18:36] <Kilos> ya thats why i remove it
[18:36] <smileE17> :(
[18:36] <smileE17> just disable the updates :p
[18:36] <Kilos> lol
[18:36] <smileE17> it's in about:config, I think :)
[18:37] <smileE17> btw, Midori is also a nice browser :p
[18:37] <Kilos> no opera works good enough for what i do
[18:37] <Kilos> ya i used midori before and ephany
[18:37] <Kilos> epiphany
[18:38] <Kilos> opera is lekker. some sites think im onna mobile device
[18:38] <Kilos> hehe
[18:41] <Kilos> maverick had some beautiful screensavers hey
[18:44] <Kilos> inetpro, you work with winsucks pcs. can i download the nvidia fx5500 driver here then take it to xp and install?
[18:44] <inetpro> Kilos: nee ek werk nie regtig met MS Windows nie
[18:44] <Kilos> bang to go online with xp without wasting data on firewalls and antivirusses first
[18:45] <inetpro> net af en toe waar ek uithelp
[18:45] <Kilos> o is werk rekenaars linux ook?
[18:45] <inetpro> maar ek probeer wegbly so vêr as moontlik
[18:45] <inetpro> Kilos: yep
[18:45] <Kilos> mooi
[18:45] <Kilos> superfly, ^^
[18:45] <inetpro> servers meestal, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, Solaris...
[18:46] <superfly> Kilos: ?
[18:46] <Kilos> doen jy servers en admin 
[18:46] <Kilos>  can i download the nvidia fx5500 driver here then take it to xp and install?
[18:47] <Kilos> cant even play AOE3 on it
[18:47] <Kilos> grrr
[18:47] <inetpro> Kilos: jy moet net seker maak dit is presies die regte drywer 
[18:47] <Kilos> oh not this one?
[18:49] <Kilos> http://www.nodevice.com/driver/GeForce_FX_5500/get37195.html
[18:49] <Kilos> http://download.cnet.com/NVIDIA-GeForce-FX-5500/3000-2108_4-56888.html
[18:50] <Kilos> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71_2
[18:50] <Kilos> that nvidia link doesnt show the card id
[18:55] <Kilos> but that doesnt answer my question. will downloading here still work when i take it to xp?
[18:59] <Kilos> hi kodez 
[19:05] <inetpro> Kilos: a file is a file
[19:05] <Kilos> oh ty so winsucks will recognise it
[19:05] <inetpro> all you need is the right file and the right medium to transfer it
[19:06] <Kilos> stick?
[19:06] <inetpro> well the stick and a filesystem that is understood by both operating systems
[19:07] <inetpro> I guess your stick is formated as FAT, which is readable by XP
[19:07] <Kilos> yip
[19:08] <inetpro> then what is your problem?
[19:08] <Kilos> i didnt wanna download 40 or 50 meg and it dont work
[19:08] <Kilos> thats why i asked
[19:08] <Kilos> grrr
[19:08] <Kilos> rofl
[19:09] <Kilos> you want my mail addy?
[19:09] <inetpro> Kilos: this channel is not a Windows support channel
[19:09] <Kilos> i know but i have friends here
[19:09] <inetpro> there are plenty of those
[19:11] <inetpro> Kilos: the enemy of my enemy is my friend
[19:11] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:12] <Kilos> i cant very well go ask a windows support channel if i can download drivers to ubuntu and install on winsucks
[19:12] <Kilos> they will say its not a ubuntu support channel
[19:13] <Kilos> and dont type winsucks with a capital w
[19:13] <Kilos> shows too much respect for the enemy
[19:14] <Kilos> sjoe magtie maar jy is stil
[19:15] <inetpro> Kilos: shhh... sy slaap
[19:15] <Kilos> skuus
[19:16] <Kilos> ou vrou
[19:16] <Kilos> hmm
[19:16] <magtie> ja my kind..... so is die jeug van vandag!
[19:17] <Kilos> ha ha ha. skuus tante
[19:17] <magtie> Ek sit maar en volg julle stories
[19:17] <inetpro> lol
[19:18] <Kilos> hoekom sit jy nie jong inetpro in sy plek nie
[19:18] <Kilos> hy baie parmantig partykeer
[19:19] <magtie> Got my printer driver installed today 
[19:19] <magtie> See,  Im studying Ubuntu in-between
[19:19] <Kilos> lol
[19:20] <magtie> Takes 'older' people longer to do the common stuff you people know already.
[19:20] <Kilos> rofl
[19:24] <Kilos> inetpro, are you paying attention?
[19:24] <inetpro> uh?
[19:25] <Kilos> you must offer to help the older peeps that struggle
[19:25] <inetpro> sjoe Kilos, maar asb nie Windows probleme hier bring nie
[19:25] <Kilos> grrr
[19:26] <Kilos> dit was n vraag nie n probleem nie man
[19:26] <inetpro> die goed maak my kniee lam
[19:26] <Kilos> lol
[19:26] <Kilos> ty magtie you made my night
[19:26] <inetpro> die mense wat daai goed gebruik het 'n onverklaarbare angs vir verandering
[19:27] <Kilos> man jy weet beter van my
[19:27] <Kilos> dis net vir n speletjie
[19:27] <inetpro> ja ja
[19:28] <Kilos> sjoe ek gaan jou tik as ek jou weer sien
[19:28] <inetpro> :-)
[19:28] <Kilos> maak dit n goeie kop dag
[19:28] <Kilos> sodat ek jou weer kan optel
[19:29] <inetpro> ai Kilos, ek kry elke dag slae van die mense wat so sukkel om verandering aan te gryp
[19:29] <inetpro> so ek is gewoond daaraan :-)
[19:29] <smileE17> see ya tomorrow :)
[19:29] <inetpro> smileE17: good night
[19:29] <Kilos> toods smileE17 
[19:29] <smileE17> inetpro & Kilos: big hug :)
[19:29] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:29] <smileE17> good night :)
[19:29] <Kilos> haha
[19:30] <magtie> OK ek groet - Lekker slaap
[19:31] <inetpro> magtie: lekker slaap daar
[19:31] <Kilos> hmm cant even go get tea
[19:32] <inetpro> Kilos: en hoekom nie?
[19:32] <Kilos> then i miss the nighting peeps
[19:32] <Kilos> and its past my crash time too
[19:32] <inetpro> lol
[19:33] <inetpro> nee man, ek dag jy bly wakker vir die elfuur ding
[19:33] <Kilos> het julle toe die foon geblok gekry inetpro ?
[19:33] <inetpro> Kilos: ai
[19:33] <Kilos> ai?
[19:33] <inetpro> ek kom ook nie orals uit in die lewe nie
[19:34] <Kilos> thats not good
[19:34] <Kilos> ai
[19:34] <inetpro> wag, ek moet vir VC vra wat om te doen
[19:34] <Kilos> VC?
[19:35] <Kilos> a
[19:36] <inetpro> Vodacom
[19:37] <Kilos> ja i twigged
[19:38] <inetpro> ek wens daar was 'n maklikke manier gewees om 'n selfoon onbruikbaar te stel
[19:39] <Kilos> hulle doen dit in 5 minute
[19:39] <inetpro> die eerste ding wat die ouens duidelik gedoen het was om die sim uit te haal 
[19:39] <Kilos> die bel en wag om by n ops uittekom is die pyn
[19:40] <Kilos> ja maar die imei nommer in die foon maak dit dood
[19:40] <Kilos> geen sim werk meer nie
[19:40] <inetpro> Kilos: hoe doen ek dit?
[19:40] <Kilos> jy bel hulle en gee die imei nommer
[19:40] <inetpro> bel wie?
[19:41] <Kilos> vodacom
[19:41] <Kilos> 173 ek dink
[19:41] <Kilos> wag ek soek
[19:42] <Kilos> 111
[19:42] <inetpro> http://help.vodacom.co.za/portal/engine?handler=script&script=template&view=html&context=template&name=main_help_topics&top_faq=true&source_id=topics&resource_id=88&category=Basic%20Phone%20Services&sub_category=Blacklisting
[19:42] <Kilos> help my fones been stolen
[19:42] <inetpro> Step 5: Please report the incident to the South African Police Services (SAPS). The SAPS will request the Blacklisting reference number in order to open a case.
[19:42] <inetpro> daai stap is nutteloos
[19:43] <inetpro> en 'n verskriklikke mors van tyd
[19:44] <Kilos> vra net om die foon te dooi met die imei nommer
[19:44] <Kilos> jy het die imei nommer ne?
[19:45] <inetpro> ja
[19:45] <Kilos> nou bel 111 en se dis gesteel
[19:46] <Kilos> hulle blok sim en die foon self
[19:46] <Kilos> se  jy het nie tyd om ore toe te gaan nie
[19:48] <inetpro> ai
[19:48] <inetpro> weet nie waar is die IMEI nommer nie
[19:49] <Kilos> haha wat nou?
[19:49] <Kilos> ai
[19:49] <Kilos> jy moet my epos addy vat
[19:49] <inetpro> lol
[19:50] <Kilos> dis agter die battery in die foon  en jy is supposed to registreer dit met VC sodat jy dit vinnig kan blok
[19:50] <Kilos> sug
[19:50] <inetpro> ja ja, nou te laat
[19:50] <Kilos> miskien is dit somewhere neer geskryf
[19:50] <Kilos> wag ek vra sus
[19:51] <inetpro> ons het in die boksie gekyk en pampiere deurgesoek
[19:51] <inetpro> niks gevind nie behalwe serial nommers 
[19:52] <Kilos> kyk op die boks waarin die foon gekom het
[19:52] <Kilos> ai
[19:52] <inetpro> maar wag, miskien is daai serial nommer op die boks 'n IMEI nommer
[19:52] <Kilos> dis iewers op die boks
[19:53] <inetpro> daar staan net niks van IMEI nie
[19:53] <Kilos> lang nommer
[19:53] <inetpro> baie lank
[19:53] <Kilos> 15 nommers
[19:54] <inetpro> yep
[19:54] <Kilos> dis buite op my nokia se box
[19:54] <inetpro> sal gou bel
[19:54] <Kilos> ok ek wag
[20:03] <inetpro> skoe
[20:03] <inetpro> sjoe
[20:03] <inetpro> lang wag
[20:03] <Kilos> wat
[20:03] <Kilos> ja hulle is baie stadig
[20:03] <inetpro> nog besig op die lyn
[20:03] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:04] <Kilos> 8ta baie vinniger
[20:04] <inetpro> die sim is nou geblock, nou hou ek aan met 'n vieslikke musiek in die agtergrond
[20:05] <inetpro> hou aan vir die volgende proses
[20:05] <inetpro> lyk my hulle verifieer nou eers iets
[20:06] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:07] <Kilos> 0820097621
[20:09] <Kilos> jy kan die datem gesteel sim nommer imei nommer sms na daai nommer ook
[20:09] <Kilos> sus het nou kom se
[20:11] <inetpro> ok
[20:11] <Kilos> het hulle al geantwoord
[20:12] <inetpro> sim is beblock en nou moet ons 'n form invul vir die blacklisting
[20:12] <Kilos> waar is die form?
[20:12] <inetpro> op epos
[20:12] <Kilos> a dis ok doen dit
[20:13] <Kilos> darem een vent wat nie score op ander se pyn nie
[20:15] <inetpro> ja maar nou eers dit afhandel, nie so gou nie
[20:15] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:25] <Kilos> vodacom kan ook die geld wat op die sim nog is vir jou terug gee
[20:26] <Kilos> transfer to another voda number for you
[20:26] <inetpro> daar was niks geld op de kaart nie
[20:26] <Kilos> but crooks normally try transfer it to one of theirs first
[20:26] <Kilos> a
[20:27] <inetpro> seun het maar net vir ons call me sms gestuur dan bel ons
[20:27] <Kilos> ja dis wat makliker is altyd
[20:28] <Kilos> sus het paar 100 op haar foon gehad toe hulle kar venster breek en foon steel
[20:28] <inetpro> ai
[20:28] <Kilos> maar voda het dit gou gevat vir haar
[20:29] <inetpro> nou moet ek net weer daai verflakste rica proses deurgaan as ek 'n nuwe sim koop
[20:29] <Kilos> sy was naby n vodashop
[20:29] <Kilos> eish
[20:29] <inetpro> maak my baie kwaad daai ding
[20:29] <Kilos> maak soos ekke kry sommer drie sims ge rica one time
[20:30] <Kilos> ek het 4 8tas gekry en vir ian 2 gegee
[20:30] <Kilos> hehe
[20:30] <inetpro> sjoe
[20:30] <Kilos> dis n pyn daai rica storie
[20:31] <Kilos> en jy kan die nuwe kaart port na die ou nommer as jy wil
[20:32] <inetpro> met my skoonpa se boedel sukkel ons steeds om dinge behoorlik van sy naam af te kry
[20:32] <Kilos> ai
[20:32] <inetpro> so ek het niks op my eie naam nie
[20:33]  * inetpro is 'n arm kerkmuis
[20:33] <Kilos> haha
[20:34] <Kilos> met n familie wat jou lief het en vriende is mens nooit arm nie
[20:34] <inetpro> Kilos: gelukkig :-)
[20:35] <Kilos> bangkrot ja maar nooit arm nie
[20:35] <inetpro> Kilos: jy moet my more weer herinner aan daai giffies
[20:35] <inetpro> somer more middag wegsluip om die goed te koop
[20:35] <Kilos> sjoe nog nie gedoen nie?
[20:36]  * inetpro sukkel om in die week tyd te kry om van die werk los te kom
[20:36] <Kilos> dit vat weke om die plante te dooi
[20:36] <Kilos> ai
[20:36] <inetpro> oja, sal moet wag tot saterdag anyway
[20:36] <inetpro> moet 'n spuitkan ook kry
[20:36] <Kilos> kry benatter ook
[20:36] <Kilos> dan spoel die reen dit nie so maklik af nie
[20:37] <inetpro> kan nie sulke groot goed met die scooter aanry nie
[20:37] <Kilos> man dis n 500ml bottel
[20:37] <inetpro> moet 'n spuitkan ook kry
[20:37] <Kilos> of 200ml ek vergeet
[20:37] <Kilos> ai
[20:37] <Kilos> hulle duur
[20:38] <inetpro> wel, iewers moet ek seker ene kry
[20:39] <Kilos> ek dink hulle het kleiners by checkers
[20:39] <Kilos> daai tuin goed
[20:40] <inetpro> ai, kan nie sukkel met te klein goed nie
[20:40] <inetpro> baie gras hier
[20:40] <inetpro> sal maar eers moet kyk wat die goed kos
[20:40] <Kilos> gardena of gardenia
[20:45] <inetpro> "backpack hand pump sprayer" klink vir my na wat ek nodig het
[20:46] <inetpro> 16l
[20:46] <Kilos> dis ok dis about wat ek betaal het 10 jaar terug
[20:47] <inetpro> 16 liter
[20:47] <Kilos> maar daai backpad ding is n pyn die bottel ene is makliker vir my
[20:48] <Kilos> ons het een bakpak een wat ons gebruik as ons vuur moet dooi
[20:48] <inetpro> jy meen 4 of 8 liter is beter?
[20:48] <Kilos> myne is n 10 litre bottel wat jy met een hand dra
[20:48] <Kilos> 8
[20:49] <inetpro> ok
[20:49] <Kilos> jy spuit baie onkruid met 8 liter
[20:50] <inetpro> kry nou geen lokale sites met pryse op nie
[20:50] <Kilos> checkers man
[20:50] <Kilos> ek het myne by korporasie gekoop
[20:51] <inetpro> ja ek sal moet fisies gaan
[20:51] <inetpro> more middag gou wegsluip na die korporasie daar in die stad en kyk
[20:51] <Kilos> ja dis n plan
[20:52] <Kilos> en in die kantoor inloop met groot spuit
[20:52] <Kilos> hehe
[20:53] <Kilos> even die 4 liter kan werk dan kan die kinders spuit terwyl jy irc
[20:53] <Kilos> hehe
[20:53] <inetpro> haha
[20:53] <Kilos> sien ek nie altyd dom nie
[20:53] <inetpro> kinders moet nie naby daai gif kom nie
[20:54] <Kilos> jy meng dit en se gaan spuit al die dubbeltjies
[20:55] <inetpro> ai
[20:55] <Kilos> hoe oud is hulle?
[20:55] <inetpro> 6 - 14
[20:56] <Kilos> 14 is goed
[20:56] <Kilos> 6 kan uiers optel
[20:56] <inetpro> :-)
[20:56] <inetpro> ja ja
[20:56] <Kilos> jy moet hulle leer om te boer
[20:57] <inetpro> Kilos: jy praat so baie vanaand dat al die ander stilbly
[20:57] <Kilos> die kuns van boer sterf uit
[20:57] <Kilos> hahaha
[20:57] <Kilos> is jy klaar met voda
[20:57] <inetpro> ai nee man
[20:57] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:58] <inetpro> my vrou sal more invul en dit afhandel
[20:58]  * inetpro haat vorms
[20:58] <Kilos> ok dan gaan slaap ek nou
[20:58] <Kilos> lol
[20:58] <inetpro> en dis haar selfoon wat gesteel is
[20:58] <Kilos> lekker slaap julle almal
[20:58] <Kilos> ai
[20:58] <Kilos> shame
[20:58] <Kilos> asmper kersfees
[20:58] <inetpro> Kilos: lekker slaap 
[20:59] <Kilos> amper
[20:59] <Kilos> dankie jy ook
[20:59] <Kilos> night lurkers
[20:59] <inetpro> maar ek het al die inligting vir haar gegee
[20:59] <Kilos> mooi
[20:59] <inetpro> dankie vir die hulp
[20:59] <Kilos> se vir haar jou beurt is jou beurt
[20:59] <Kilos> enige tyd