[00:00] <Mulder911> i wanted to update to 12.04 and after this i reboot the system choose the new kernel
[00:00] <Mulder911> ok 1 sec
[00:00] <pepee> bekks, was, he said he is not running that kernel
[00:00] <MonkeyDust> Mulder911  type ps -e|less <-- which has number 88 ?
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Is that what is on the usb, you want it clean to start with, no hidden trash with stuff in it either.
[00:01] <bekks> pepee: Then how can we investigate what is causing that error...?
[00:01] <pepee> I suppose it means, the PID will not necessarily be the same
[00:01] <pepee> bekks, reading the logs, it should say what process was this
[00:01] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, no thats my home directory, but its not the problem as mini.iso loads just fine, i think its not mounting cause its on another partition that is mounted as well
[00:01] <pepee> bekks, at least that's what a bit of googling shows
[00:02] <Mulder911> on this kernel i don`t see pid88
[00:02] <pepee> google  "/proc/*/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/*/oom_score_adj"
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Drag it to your desktop and mount it there.
[00:02] <pepee> Mulder911, in a terminal, type:   grep -n "oom_adj is deprecated" /var/log/*
[00:02] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, that was my thoughts as well
[00:02] <Mulder911> /var/log/kern.log:751:Oct 31 00:46:10 bt kernel: [    1.631658] udevd (92): /proc/92/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/92/oom_score_adj instead.
[00:03] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, that failed as well
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, I always reformat the usb as well each time to be sure it is clean, if I do a load this way.
[00:04] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, the usb is freshly formatted
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, So what is the actual failure?
[00:04] <bekks> Mulder911: So which process is PID 92?
[00:04] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, the iso wont mount
[00:05] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, opening it with archive manager and can see the contents from there
[00:05] <pepee> Mulder911, in the terminal, type:   grep -n "Linux version" /var/log/kern.log
[00:05] <pepee> bekks, PID 92
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Not even with a right click on it then clicking on open with archive mounter
[00:05] <pepee> bekks, PID 92 is udevd
[00:05] <Mulder911> 4:Oct 31 00:46:10 bt kernel: [    0.000000] Linux version 3.2.6 (root@bt) (gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) ) #1 SMP Fri Feb 17 10:34:20 EST 2012
[00:05] <Mulder911> 816:Oct 31 01:05:54 bt kernel: [    0.000000] Linux version 3.2.6 (root@bt) (gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) ) #1 SMP Fri Feb 17 10:34:20 EST 2012
[00:05] <Mulder911> 1672:Oct 31 19:14:47 bt kernel: [    0.000000] Linux version 3.2.6 (root@bt) (gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) ) #1 SMP Fri Feb 17 10:34:20 EST 2012
[00:05] <Mulder911> 2543:Nov  1 00:19:12 bt kernel: [    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.32-44-generic (buildd@allspice) (gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1) ) #98-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 24 17:27:10 UTC 2012 (Ubuntu 2.6.32-44.98-generic 2.6.32.59+drm33.24)
[00:05] <FloodBot1> Mulder911: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:06] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, thats how ive been trying to do it, atm i have it open in archive manager
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Do you se all the files?
[00:08] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, as far as i can tell i do, have had a problem opening any of the folders
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, If you see all the files like I posted, the the exstract should run it just takes a bit to do it I just ran it, about 8-1o min I think.
[00:08] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, trying it again
[00:08] <pepee> Mulder911, try upgrating now and see it if installs a new kernel, I suppose this should solve it
[00:09] <Mulder911> so upgrade one more time
[00:09] <pepee> Mulder911, yes. AFAIK 3.2.6 is not the latest kernel in 12.04.1
[00:09] <Mulder911> ok
[00:09] <Mulder911> i`ll try
[00:09] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, of course this time it finishes in 40 seconds
[00:10] <pepee> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:10] <bekks> Which will not upgrade the kernel.
[00:10] <pepee> bekks, what's the current kernel in 12.04?
[00:10] <Mulder911> i`m upgrading with kpackagekit
[00:11] <bekks> pepee: No 12.04 handy here, maybe you can take alook at packages.ubuntu.com
[00:11] <pepee> bekks, why do you say it will not upgrade the kernel?
[00:12] <bekks> pepee: Because thats the truth. apt-get will keep back kernel packages. You have to update them explicitely.
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, What I have found with the W7 ISO is that it is locked unless mounted that is probably why, I'm not sure of other ways to mount it, I have been using the usb loader I posted for a coulple of years now and have not had to do it this way. I know it works though has everytime I did in the past. YOu might just install the multisystem loader and use it
[00:13] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, i hope this works, ive got 2 hours to try and get my girls laptop back to working condition. i thought gparted was still simulating and hit cancel, man was i wrong
[00:13] <pepee> bekks, dist-upgrade does that for you
[00:14] <bekks> pepee: Yes, and we were talking about apt-get upgrade ;)
[00:14] <pepee> but... 3.2.6 is not from the repos, is it?
[00:14] <bekks> The 12.04 kernel version is 3.2.0-xyz
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Hehe not the person to disappoint. ;)
[00:15] <bekks> pepee: Nope, it isnt.
[00:16] <pepee> bekks, I was talking about upgrade, generically. I always use dist-upgrade, so I don't know much about other package managers
[00:16] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, yeah specially not after shes been at work most of the day while i get to sit around the house
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, hehe you are in deep dodo now. ;)
[00:17] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, unless magic happens and the next 2 hours go flawlessly (never in my lifetime)
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, I clone all my installs, you might do this after you are setup with clonezilla.
[00:19] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, clonezilla is what ruined my windows installation in the first place
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, If I remember you cloned it to a ext4 right?
[00:20] <SillyTalker> how can i use a .htaccess for my phpmyadmin directory ?
[00:20] <SillyTalker> i tried enabling override all in /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[00:20] <SillyTalker> didnt help
[00:21] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, and then did it again (hadnt deleted the original partition yet) on a fresh ntfs partition
[00:21] <SillyTalker> i tried a bunch of other stuff which didn't help
[00:21] <SillyTalker> and now i kindof gave up and figured i'd ask on IRC
[00:21] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, which is when i was told to delete the original because it kept booting that instead of the new one
[00:21] <Tiffany_Backer> firefox version 16.0.2 always ask for zip code on google shop and ebay how to save my zip ????
[00:22] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, only to find out the new one failed to boot cause it wasnt in the same location
[00:22] <scatterp> hi i am trying to set up a dhcpd and i have become a little lost i think i have one running but no idea which one it is and no matter what i do the windows box on the other end of the wire seems to get an ip of 192.168.0.20 how can i work out where its getting it from ?
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, I have never had clonezilla fail, but I follow some rules, I have the windows fully defragged to the front of the disc and make sure in general it is good shape by running a chkdsk every so often on it
[00:22] <brzJunior> Hi, i need a little hand to help me get back system sound on ubuntu 11.10, can anyone help me? After i tried to install google gadgets, my sound device doesnt work correctly
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Lots of other cloners though.
[00:24] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, as far as i know windows checks to make sure the hardware hasnt changed and when it detects a major change it requires re-activation
[00:24] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, all my old discs ended up getting trashed when i moved
[00:25] <WeThePeople> how do i make ubuntu into its own proxy
[00:27] <SillyTalker> hi, i use phpmyadmin on ubuntu 12.04, and i want to use a .htaccess in my phpmyadmin dir, but it doesn't seem to work, i set AllowOverride All for the dir in /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[00:27] <brzJunior> Why i cant access sound configuration on my Ubuntu 11.10?!?
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, That is in system changes if the update reading is really far off I have only seen that one time with a XP setup. I have W7 pro and it has unlimited images that can be made although it will overwrite the last one if saved in the same place. I don't really use windows much, but I keep it squeaky clean with bleachbit and defragging and some other apps to have it in good shape and I have no problem just throwing in a fresh install o
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> nce in awhile.
[00:29] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, right but i was attempting to move it to a new hard drive, ive never been able to do that without having to use the rescue disc afterwards
[00:30] <SillyTalker> anyone?
[00:32] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, im seeing lots of topics online where several people have done it, sadly its not been my luck
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, You will need the recovery if the mbr is not saved, clonezilla saves the mbr, that is why I like it.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> If the mbr has grub there though you will need to reload it if the linux install is not included.
[00:34] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, it wasnt on the first partition, the mbr was over-written by grub.
[00:38] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, and somehow i just ran out of space on a 4GB drive, told ya luck isnt in my bag of tricks
[00:38] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, nautilus tells me i got 1GB left on the drive.... GRRRR
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, Did you show the hidden files and makes sure there was nothing there, if you were finally loading it with the ISO?
[00:41] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, i was copying files from the extracted directory, one file said something about no space left on the disk, splicing error or something
[00:42] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, im formating it to fat32 now and gonna try the multiboot tool
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, cool good luck the windows will be in the grub4 choice of the grub menu I believe, you have to look for it
[00:43] <Titomen> any idea how to install create ubuntu on sofware raid and LVM
[00:44] <SillyTalker> nobody that ever did this? :s
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> with that usb loader it does not just show in the main grub menu you will see. XiaolinDraconis
[00:44] <SillyTalker> hi, i use phpmyadmin on ubuntu 12.04, and i want to use a .htaccess in my phpmyadmin dir, but it doesn't seem to work, i set AllowOverride All for the dir in /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[00:44] <SillyTalker> i also tried to change /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[00:44] <SillyTalker> didn't work either
[00:45] <SillyTalker> i wasted almost 2 hours on this idiotic little problem
[00:45] <Mulder911> pepee?
[00:45] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, thanks for the heads up, and more bad luck coming my way, the device didnt show properly in gparted, so i chose to create a new msdos partition table, and its taking a long time
[00:45] <pepee> Mulder911,
[00:47] <Mulder911> is it possible that after upgrading ,starting system for the first time is going much slower?
[00:47] <d1gital> what's the proper way to update apache to 2.2.23?  the newest in repos is 2.2.22.
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Mulder911: did you change release?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> d1gital: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> d1gital: or you may find a PPA
[00:48] <Mulder911> i upgrade again but it was this same
[00:48] <Mulder911> but i found log
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Mulder911: same release or did you change release (Precise to Quantal for example0?
[00:49] <pepee> Mulder911, could be, yes. by the way, where did you get that kernel, Mulder911 ?
[00:49] <Mulder911> i`m on the 2.6 at the moment which is working
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Mulder911: what video chip  do you use?
[00:49] <Mulder911> radeon 6850
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Mulder911: with proprietary video driver?
[00:50] <u4and> !triggers
[00:50] <Mulder911> wait i tell you where is the problem again
[00:50] <u4and> !arm
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> Mulder911: did you upgrade from Lucid to Precise by any chance?
[00:51] <SillyTalker> no response here and none in #phpmyadmin either :s
[00:51] <SillyTalker> am i really going to have to remove phpmyadmin because of this annoying problem? :s
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: what is the issue?
[00:51] <SillyTalker> hi, i use phpmyadmin on ubuntu 12.04, and i want to use a .htaccess in my phpmyadmin dir, but it doesn't seem to work, i set AllowOverride All for the dir in /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[00:52] <SillyTalker> ActionParsnip:
[00:52] <pepee> SillyTalker, ask in #apache ?
[00:52] <SillyTalker> pepee: i'll try thanks
[00:52] <pepee> SillyTalker, there are lots of web-dev related channels
[00:52] <Mulder911> i had sys with 2.6.32.44 kernel and after upgrading system made me another 3.2.6
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Mulder911: so you upgraded Lucid to Precise? yes?
[00:53] <pepee> Mulder911, that's strange, ubuntu doesn't have 3.2.6 as far as I know
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic precise
[00:54] <Mulder911> it`s Backtrack distro
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Mulder911: 3.2.6 is a BackTrack kernel, Backtrack isn't supported here
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Mulder911: ask in #backtrack-linux
[00:54] <Mulder911> ok
[00:54] <Mulder911> thx
[00:55] <ana_> hi, I have ubuntu 12.04 and I installed wine 1.5 to use spss19, the application appears, but i can not open it with linux or wine
[00:55] <ana_> what can i do?
[00:57] <HulkHogan> nothing
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> ana_: did you check the appdb for compatibility?
[00:57] <ana_> nope
[00:57] <ana_> what is that?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> ana_: search, you'll find it
[00:57] <HulkHogan> might want to learn winetricks as well
[00:58] <ana_> where can i find it?
[00:58] <HulkHogan> google
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> ana_: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=appdb   too hard?
[00:58] <ana_> i'm just begging with ubuntu
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> ana_: even the simplest search gives the result
[00:58] <kisuke> is there any way to tell apt-get to use just 1 download thread?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> ana_: yes but II'm VERY sure you have used the web to find out new stuff, yes?
[00:59] <ana_> ah yeah
[00:59] <ana_> sorry
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> ana_: so why stop now?
[00:59] <ana_> i'll look for it
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> ana_: instead of immediately asking 'what's that' try a little searching using the advise given
[01:00] <entombed> is there way to clsoe off a session of a dvd+r burn that didn't get closed off originally
[01:00] <SillyTalker> ok i'm getting rid of phpmyadmin
[01:00] <somsip> SillyTalker: what's the problem with it?
[01:00] <SillyTalker> talk to you guys later
[01:00] <HulkHogan> kisuke: think is apt-get download name
[01:00] <SillyTalker> somsip: can't seem to protect it's dir that's all
[01:01] <SillyTalker> with a .htaccess
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: its hardly crucia
[01:01] <SillyTalker> ActionParsnip: phpmyadmin in general is not crucial so
[01:01] <somsip> SillyTalker: what have you done to try to achieve that?
[01:01] <somsip> SillyTalker: or if you've decided to dump it...fair enough
[01:01] <SillyTalker> somsip: nothing i jsut want it as an extra layer
[01:01] <SillyTalker> yeah i've been messing with it for 2 hours
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: you can connect via SSH and run SQL commands there :)
[01:01] <SillyTalker> it's not worth that
[01:01] <SillyTalker> thanks for tryign to help anyway
[01:01] <somsip> SillyTalker: ok
[01:02] <C_Kode> Q:  I have Ubuntu 12.04.  I installed KDE plasma desktop using software center.  When in KDE, my VPN doesn't work
[01:02] <SillyTalker> ActionParsnip: i know lol
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: is there no PPA for it?
[01:02] <Guest67938> Hello, I've got a 16gb usb drive, i'm trying to make a casper-rw partition that is ~15gig and use that for persistance, rather than the fat32 4gb allocation.. I managed to make a seperate partition that was 15gb, and i had lots of space during the instance, but nothing persisted, did i miss a flag?
[01:02] <SillyTalker> not that i saw no
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: the SSH will be secure too
[01:02] <somsip> SillyTalker: if you want help, just let me know. Probably OT so msg may be better
[01:03] <SillyTalker> somsip, ok maybe later i'm just gonna take a break now
[01:03] <scatterp> can any one help me set up dhcpd on 12.04 ?
[01:03] <SillyTalker> thanks for the effort
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=phpmyadmin
[01:04] <SillyTalker> talk to you guys later
[01:04] <SillyTalker> oh
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: seems there is a PPA
[01:04]  * SillyTalker clicks
[01:04] <SillyTalker> ooooh
[01:04] <SillyTalker> i thought you meant a post on it
[01:04] <SillyTalker> about my prob
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: that page is THE search ngine for PPAs........
[01:04] <SillyTalker> it's not worth posting for this it's just me being stupid most likely
[01:05] <SillyTalker> well i'm not going to add a ppa
[01:05] <SillyTalker> it's just me beign stupid lol
[01:05] <SillyTalker> anyway talk to you later
[01:05] <SillyTalker> i really need a break
[01:05] <SillyTalker> thanks for trying to help
[01:05] <FloodBot1> SillyTalker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:07] <Gerowen> Is there no 32 bit release of Ubuntu Server 12.10?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Gerowen: sure
[01:08] <ana_> ok
[01:08] <ana_> thank u for ur kind help
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> Gerowen, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Gerowen: I'd go for Precise for a server, its LTS wheras Quantal isn't
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> +1 on precise
[01:09] <pepee> ana_, #winehq
[01:10] <Gerowen> ActionParsnip: I was considering that as well.  My old server desktop has kicked the bucket.  It will run for about 5 minutes, then the screen will go blank and the CPU fan will just start racing.  It was forgetting CMOS settings so I replaced the CMOS battery, but it's still doing it and the only other spare computer I have to turn into a replacement server only has a 32 bit processor.
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> Gerowen: have you tested RAM? Have you cleared the fans?
[01:11] <Gerowen> ActionParsnip: Haven't tested RAM, but it was fine before, I'll do that though.  The inside is emaculate though, I took it apart and did a good job cleaning it about once a month.
[01:12] <vfw> Gerowen: New Thermal grease?
[01:12] <avengre> Hello, i'm creating a Live USB drive on a 16gb drive, i'm trying to create a casper-rw partition (ext2) that is 15gb.  Is there anything I have to do to have the Ubuntu install use the casper-rw partition over the casper-rw file?
[01:13] <pepee> Gerowen, check temps, test memory, check disks, etc
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> Gerowen: thats good, check the RAM so you know its ok
[01:13] <Gerowen> vfw: Thought of that as well, especially since every couple of months I'd remove the heatsink and brush it out really good, and the thermal paste is wearing pretty thin.  It could any of a hundred things.
[01:13] <misterhk> I have a problem with vsync/tearing. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10, nvidia-current-updates driver, unity, and have 2 monitors. Main monitor is in portrait mode 1920x1200, second monitor is in portrait mode 1080x1920. There is only tearing on my main monitor, not on second. I've tried portrait portrait, portrait landscape, and landscape landscape, no vsync issuse on any of those configs. The tearing is only when in landscape portrait m
[01:13] <misterhk> ode, and only on main monitor. Any ideas?
[01:14] <Elesa> Hi, I'm getting a low space warning and I haven't saved any big file afaik, help?
[01:14] <pepee> avelldiroll, I'd ask in ##linux too
[01:14] <Elesa> It says that the device "Root filesystem" has only 800 MB free, then it said 500 something, now it says 20,5 kb
[01:14] <pepee> Elesa, df -h
[01:15] <Elesa> now only 8,0 kb
[01:15] <Elesa> ._.
[01:15] <pepee> Elesa, could it be temporal files and browsers cache?
[01:15] <Elesa> perhaps..
[01:15] <Elesa> I'm going to delete everything in /tmp
[01:15] <bekks> Nope.
[01:15] <pepee> are you watching videos in youtube?
[01:15] <vfw> Gerowen: Thermal grease should be replaced each time the heat sink is taken off and put back on.
[01:16] <bekks> Elesa: Please pastebin the output of "df -h"
[01:16] <Elesa> I am, I also recorded something with recordMyDesktop
[01:16] <bekks> !paste|elesa
[01:16] <Elesa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322320/
[01:16] <instantp10neer> what are the cpu hardware requirements for 12.10?  will a 3800+ 3gb do well?
[01:17] <u4and> anyone know anything about ubuntu on arm? got a gs3 i want to install into
[01:17] <wastrel> what's 3800+
[01:17] <instantp10neer> amd ahtlon64
[01:18] <u4and> instantp10neer: amd?
[01:18] <instantp10neer> 2.0ghz
[01:18] <instantp10neer> yes
[01:18] <bekks> Elesa: run: sudo apt-get clean   and pastebin df -h again please
[01:18] <Elesa> Ok.
[01:18] <instantp10neer> it is very slow with 1gb and i want to know if a ram upgrade will fix the performance or will it require an alternate cpu?
[01:18] <u4and> Athlon 64 X2 3800+ would be fine
[01:18] <instantp10neer> for x64?
[01:18] <snark> instantp10neer, yes you have more than enough  to run 12.10~
[01:18] <vfw> Elesa: It's not your /home partition that is full, it is /
[01:19] <instantp10neer> it is very slow at 1gb of ram
[01:19] <u4and> well, open a terminal, and type free -m, then paste to pastebin and link us
[01:19] <instantp10neer> is that normal?
[01:19] <Darm0k> hi
[01:19] <Elesa> yeah but I haven't installed any program that heavy besides recordMyDesktop and I had much more space some minutes ago
[01:19] <u4and> it could be several things instantp10neer, we need to quantify that
[01:19] <Darm0k> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[01:19] <vfw> Elesa: So what do you have installed?  Its 19G which SHOULD be enough.
[01:19] <u4and> recordmydesktop can keep going, and will take up lots of space if it does Elesa
[01:19] <snark> instantp10neer, only 1GB ram?    might be just barely enough     do you have swap partition as well?
[01:20] <vfw> Elesa: Did you run recordmydesktop as root?
[01:20] <u4and> snark, ubuntu runs fine with far less; try 128-256MB
[01:20] <Elesa> umm, nope
[01:20] <scatterp> can any one help me set up dhcpd ?
[01:20] <Elesa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322326/
[01:20] <snark> u4and     maybe if your not using X :P
[01:21] <Darm0k> shaka when the walls fell
[01:21] <u4and> heh
[01:21] <instantp10neer> no swap
[01:21] <vfw> Elspuddy-: cd / ; ls -lS |grep ^d   <will show directories sorted by size>
[01:21] <u4and> Elesa: sudo du -sch /tmp /var
[01:21] <u4and> er spose that worx too
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> instantp10neer: you could switch to LXDE and the desktop will use less RAM
[01:22] <instantp10neer> i have a 2gb ram upgrade inc
[01:22] <instantp10neer> no trouble if the cpu suffices
[01:22] <Darm0k> yeah i saw those poor ram dude in TRON
[01:22] <Elesa> ^
[01:22] <snark> Elesa,   your root partition is completely full   ie   100%  full   according to your patbin info
[01:22] <vfw> Elesa: lsb_release -a
[01:22] <pepee> Elesa, try removing temporal files from your browsers
[01:22] <Elesa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322332/
[01:22] <snark> Elesa,   your root partition is completely full   ie   100%  full   according to your paste*bin info
[01:23] <bekks> pepee: That will not help at all, because / is full, not /home
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Elesa: can you pastebin the output of:  uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[01:23] <pepee> ah yeah bekks , didn't see that
[01:23] <Elesa> That's the output of sudo du -sch /tmp /var
[01:23] <Elesa> so /tmp is full, must be recordMyDesktop's fault?
[01:23] <pepee> Elesa, to pastebin :  ps axuf
[01:23] <pepee> it will show a large list
[01:23] <Rootbrian> Anybody have any success getting cheese to even run?
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> Rootbrian: many do
[01:24] <Gerowen> Tried doing: apt-get clean ?
[01:24] <instantp10neer> Danke Schoen
[01:24] <Gerowen> Downloaded debs get held onto a lot of the time.
[01:24] <Rootbrian> For me, cheese doesn't run in 12.04 or 12.10.
[01:24] <instantp10neer> will c u tomorrow am :)
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> Rootbrian: if you run it in terminal, the output will give clues
[01:24] <pepee> Rootbrian, are you using kde?
[01:25] <Elesa> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322337/
[01:25] <Rootbrian> I'm at starbucks, away from my desktop and in here using jmirc.
[01:25] <vfw> Elspuddy-: That is quite possible.  cd /tmp/ ; ls -lS |grep ^d
[01:25] <vfw> Elesa: cd / ; ls -lS |grep ^d   <will show directories sorted by size>
[01:25] <Rootbrian> It's the standard ubuntu with unity, but I run fluxbox or the 2D gnome panel.
[01:25] <Darm0k> save water, shower with your girlfriend
[01:25] <Elesa> yeah /tmp is 9GB :c
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> Elesa: you may want to reboot to the newer kernel, then remove the other 2 kernels. You will get about 240Mb back
[01:26] <vfw> Elesa: cd /tmp/ ; du -s * | sort -n    <will list by file sizes, largest last>
[01:26] <pepee> Elesa, to pastebin, please :  ps axuf
[01:26] <Elesa> cd /tmp/
[01:26] <Elesa> oops lol
[01:26] <Rootbrian> Once I arrive home, I'll get some pastes going for cheese in both, maybe then the developers can correct it, or canonical can issue a fix to get it working.
[01:27] <Elesa> brb
[01:27] <Rootbrian> That aside, I'm loving the fact that 12.10 actually works on my ages old compaq evo desktop.
[01:27] <krunal> So im having trouble resolving a host name of a different computer. if i ping <hostname> it wont resolve
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Rootbrian: the required hardware isn't very dfferent between releases
[01:28] <vfw> krunal: How about it's IP address?
[01:28] <Rootbrian> Krunal did you try connecting directly to the cable or dsl modem?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> krunal: can you ping the IP?
[01:28] <krunal> vfw, IP address works
[01:28] <krunal> just not computer name
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> krunal: will the IP ever change?
[01:28] <pepee> krunal, checked /etc/resolv.conf ?
[01:28] <vfw> krunal: It's an issue with the router.
[01:28] <krunal> It's assigned by my router ...not static but it coud change
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> krunal: is the system's IP and name in the DHCP clients table?
[01:29] <krunal> let me check
[01:30] <Rootbrian> It's funny how 12.04 will turn my screen into a colorful blockaide full of pixels when resuming from standby. Instant kernel panic. Haven't tried 12.10 yet and I'm anxious to see if it successfully "resumes" when I get home.
[01:30] <krunal> actionparsnip: it does show in my table
[01:30] <vfw> krunal: Just use IP addresses
[01:31] <Rootbrian> Funny how ip addresses work instead of host names.
[01:31] <krunal> vfw, do i have to?
[01:31] <krunal> Yeah i know right
[01:31] <krunal> windows doesn't have this issue
[01:32] <krunal> btw windows 8 blows
[01:32] <Rootbrian> Router issues do plague me sometimes. Had to reboot mine twice and then it locked up due to DSL actually being down, cold boot fixed it.
[01:32] <Darm0k> rootbrian: thats the lysergic expression of the inner heart from your computer, thats why its so colorful
[01:32] <Rootbrian> Hitting that windows key + E will launch explorer, and clear that awful "start" screen menu.
[01:32] <snark> lsd   yum yum!
[01:33] <Rootbrian> DarmOk it's a great wallpaper. I'm going to snap a picture of it next time.
[01:34] <Gerowen> For those who suggested checking the RAM, I ran Memtest from the server install disc and after a few minutes I had a bunch of red on the screen, so I've re-seated my RAM and am running the test again.  Apparently the issue was bad RAM.
[01:34] <Rootbrian> Though I'll need the tripod to ensure it's not blurry to get an amazing 16mp shot of it.
[01:34] <Hemebond> If I want to put /tmp into RAM do I use
[01:34] <Hemebond> none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0
[01:34] <Hemebond> or
[01:34] <Hemebond> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777,nosuid 0 0
[01:34] <FloodBot1> Hemebond: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:34] <Hemebond> hai hai, FloodBot1
[01:34] <Darm0k> tmp in ram no
[01:34] <Darm0k> that SUCKS!
[01:35] <Hemebond> Why?
[01:35] <Rootbrian> As if bad ram wasn't bad enough, another of my computers I set up for my parents (xubuntu on it), it has 1.5 GB and it's mismatched with different speeds, but it runs fine. BIOS always complains each time.
[01:35] <Darm0k> use graphics mem instead
[01:36] <somsip> Hemebond: like this - tmpfs 		/tmp		tmpfs 	defaults,mode=1777,size=2g 		0 	0
[01:36] <vfw> krunal: I use a DD-WRT routers.  I set all of the PCs I need to access to static IPs and with corresponding host names in the router's config.  I use host-names that are short and make sense to me. easy-peasy
[01:36] <somsip> Hemebond: weird chars are tabs...
[01:36] <Hemebond> somsip: Thanks. If the first line no longer accurate?
[01:36] <somsip> Hemebond: not sure what you mean?
[01:36] <Hemebond> It apparently worked fine, so I'm wondering why the difference.
[01:37] <Darm0k> tempfs in mem, thats insane, the system just uses more swap
[01:37] <Hemebond> The first line uses filesystem none
[01:37] <somsip> Hemebond: no idea. That's what's ion mine and it's fine
[01:37] <Hemebond> somsip: Cool, thank you.
[01:37] <Hemebond> Darm0k: Why?
[01:37] <somsip> Hemebond: np
[01:37] <hfb> Anybody good with wirless lan cards? I am having trouble getting mine to connect to WPA2 internet connections.. Im running xubuntu on a IBM ThinkPad T41
[01:37] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, ur a genius, that multisystem is pretty powerful
[01:37] <Darm0k> use temp on another free disk or clean up disk space
[01:37] <Dice-Man> tricks or treats ?
[01:37] <pepee> Darm0k, unless you don't have swap mem, and have lots of RAM
[01:38] <Darm0k> because you throw away memory
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, It is a keeper for sure. ;)
[01:38] <vfw> hfb: What seems to be the trouble?  NetworkManager not doing the job?
[01:38] <Darm0k> not anyone has 16 or 32gb machines
[01:38] <somsip> Darm0k: tmpfs grows to use what it needs. If there is 40MB in /tmp, only 40MB is used. And it depends a lot on how much RAM is in the PC
[01:38] <Hemebond> I have 16GiB of RAM.
[01:39] <Darm0k> i have 1.21 Jiggawatts of Power
[01:39] <Rootbrian> for those of us that has 1GB of ram, that wouldn't work.
[01:39] <vfw> hfb: Why don't you start by telling us what wireless card it is?  (What does lspci say about it?)
[01:39] <somsip> Rootbrian: it isn't a recommendation for everyone
[01:39] <pepee> Darm0k, that doesn't translate to RAM
[01:39] <pepee> you need to download it
[01:39] <Darm0k> pepee: no clue, ask dr doolittle
[01:39] <Rootbrian> somsip I know. :)
[01:40] <Darm0k> dr doolittle knows much about ram
[01:40] <nOStahl> hi all, im on 12.10 and empathy wont save nickserv password. how are you guys fixing that
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> nOStahl, By using hexchat
[01:40] <hfb> lspci?
[01:41] <Rootbrian> Chatzilla is a firefox addon, it saves passwords. I recommend it.
[01:41] <vfw> nOStahl: That is an issue between IRC and your Client app.
[01:41] <nOStahl> vfw its an ubuntu issue as they chose to package it :)
[01:41] <Rootbrian> I believe pidgin works with IRC.
[01:41] <nOStahl> that said, ive not had any issues with empathy for the years i've been using it.
[01:41] <vfw> nOStahl: If you use irssi, see http://irssi.org/documentation
[01:41] <Darm0k> i use xchat, but i don't know why
[01:42] <vfw> try irssi
[01:42] <Rootbrian> Reasons being, I'm skipping 12.10. The LTS is better suited. ;)
[01:42] <nOStahl> bit of a wait for the next lts
[01:43] <Rootbrian> I'm fine with waiting. As long as 12.04 is good and I can deal with a non-functioning cheese, I'm cool.
[01:43] <nOStahl> cheese works for me on 12.04
[01:44] <vfw> nOStahl: Yea, it's almost time to upgrade, but not yet.... IMHO
[01:44] <Rootbrian> Mine gets the crash message from apport all the time and never runs.
[01:45] <Rootbrian> Maybe it hates the 12 year old computer I love.
[01:46] <snark> Rootbrian, 12 year old eh   what is a 386?
[01:46] <vfw> nOStahl: Rootbrian (...from 10.04 to 12.04 ...)
[01:46] <jagginess> snark, he said his computer is 12 years old. You must be 12.
[01:46] <Rootbrian> p4, 3.06 GHz, 533MHz FSB, 1GB SD DDR RAM @ 133 Mhz
[01:47] <snark> jagginess, you must be unable to read
[01:47] <jagginess> Rootbrian, that sure is quite outta date :).. upgrade!
[01:47] <vfw> snark: Amazing observation abilities
[01:47] <Rootbrian> it's faster than most dual/quad cores. :D
[01:47] <jagginess> snark, sarcasm double fails.. go take a hike punk.
[01:48] <bazhang> jagginess, and snark thats enough
[01:48] <vfw> jagginess: Amazing lack of humor
[01:48] <bazhang> vfw, you too
[01:48] <jagginess> i'm not trying to be funny.. his computer is pretty old
[01:48] <bazhang> lets move on please
[01:48] <Rootbrian> it suits my needs.
[01:48] <jagginess> Rootbrian, you definitely would bump into problems, what would help is if you have a good video card (but its not worth buying one for that machine)
[01:49] <blackshirt> very childish :d
[01:49] <Rootbrian> Move on and have fun.
[01:49] <Rootbrian> Mine is an ATI 4650 HD
[01:49] <Rootbrian> Good video card, but ati hates it. :P
[01:49] <jagginess> Rootbrian, that can help.. it's worth a shot i guess
[01:50] <Rootbrian> 1GB GDDR2, 400MHz GPU.
[01:50] <fusk> did they fix the freezing after sleep for laptops in 12.10 ?
[01:50] <Rootbrian> now if graphics ram could be used to supplement system memory, that gives me 2GB.
[01:50] <vfw> fusk: Depends on how much RAM you have.
[01:51] <Rootbrian> Fsck mine freezes after waking up.
[01:51] <Rootbrian> *fusk
[01:51] <fusk> vfw, 1gb
[01:51] <Darm0k> graphic mem could be used for it
[01:51] <Rootbrian> Same on my pc, 1GB.
[01:51] <vfw> fusk: *swap*  I meant to say swap nor RAM  1G of RAM is a bit low.
[01:52] <Darm0k> vesafb
[01:52] <Rootbrian> I don't know where the heck I could get a 1GB SD DDR 133MHz memory module. PC2100 by the way.
[01:52] <fusk> vfw, don't know how much swap, default i guess. It is a netbook, that's why 1gb.
[01:52] <vfw> Rootbrian: ebay
[01:52] <Darm0k> rootbrian: emeow?
[01:52] <Darm0k> ameowzone?
[01:53] <Rootbrian> Tigerdirect only has 512MB sticks. My system has two slots with 2x 512
[01:53] <vfw> fusk: sudo fdisk -l
[01:53] <cellofellow> anybody know how I can set 3-finger-tap as middle click? (Or even better, 2-finger and 3-finger for right-click)?
[01:53] <vfw> fusk: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit #And send us the resulting URL, (if you want us to see).
[01:53] <Rootbrian> Ebay only has compaq evo desktops. All sold out I believe.
[01:54] <rode> txdgnhndkxhg
[01:54] <Rootbrian> rode?
[01:55] <jagginess> Rootbrian, it's not worth upgrading anything on a 12 year old computer.. It's better to buy a new system
[01:55] <Rootbrian> Not worth buying another desktop of the same or less specs of mine and including the shipping costs. Yikes.
[01:55] <jagginess> ok
[01:56] <jagginess> Rootbrian, tigerdirect.com and click buy
[01:56] <Rootbrian> I agree. I'm sticking it out until it blows out
[01:56] <snark> jagginess, as long as you run linux on it it should be fine
[01:56] <Rootbrian> That whole "secure boot" thing on newer windows 7/8 pc's, forget it. It won't work with linux.
[01:57] <blackshirt> secure boot / uefi works on linux
[01:57] <vfw> hfb: See my PM
[01:57] <Rootbrian> Okay, good.
[01:57] <jagginess> secure boot is not all enforced, it can be turned off, and linux can install on these new motherboards. nice assumption though, a couple of us are laughing.. linux has been installed on these systems.
[01:58] <Rootbrian> Alright. That assured me more. The source and others say it won't work.
[01:58] <jagginess> (and btw, canonical has a key for secure boot as well for ubuntu in case you didnt know, thanks canonical)
[01:58] <Rootbrian> Oh man, that rocks!
[01:58] <jagginess> oh get out Rootbrian.. you're trolling.
[01:58] <Rootbrian> But disabling secure boot is a must.
[01:59] <Rootbrian> I got this info from the free software foundation. I was only going by what I read.
[01:59] <blackshirt> secure boot / uefi works on linux, grub has support them
[01:59] <Rootbrian> I guess they need to update their records?
[02:00] <Rootbrian> Anyways, I gotta get out of this starbucks. waited for somebody to show up and they're a no-show.
[02:00] <jagginess> what a starbucker
[02:04] <Deihmos> when using ubuntu my fans go crazy. Is there a solution
[02:04] <blackshirt> deihmos, why become crazy ?
[02:05] <Deihmos> ubuntu makes it go crazy
[02:05] <Deihmos> very loud
[02:05] <Deihmos> envy 17 with i7 processor
[02:06] <Deihmos> i7-2760qm 2.4ghz
[02:07] <jagginess> probably something new in 12.10, there is a newer kernel 3.5, maybe a module needs to be loaded (speedstep maybe?)
[02:07] <blackshirt> deihmos, sorry, i can't reconfigure your crazineess .... You just told make crazy, but not was happen ...very subjective
[02:07] <VlanX> is 12.04.1 different from 12.04 ?
[02:08] <blackshirt> vlanx, different with updates included
[02:08] <Deihmos> i said they are very loud. meaning they spin at max speed in ubuntu
[02:08] <VlanX> blackshirt: 3.5 kernel?
[02:08] <misterhk> anyone else have youtube videos end at around 90% on ubuntu 12.10?
[02:08] <X-warrior> my ubuntu just made one "bip" and I don't know why, ideas?
[02:08] <blackshirt> vlanx, the bare bone was same
[02:08] <fusk> vfw, http://pastebin.com/BSMNEehG
[02:08] <blackshirt> vlanx, maybe the updates new kernel ...
[02:08] <fusk> sorry, took a while
[02:09] <VlanX> fusk: what command gives this output ?
[02:10] <VlanX> blackshirt: maybe i can just try the 12.10 version too... do you happen to know the major differences between desktop and server?  Different packages installed?
[02:11] <blackshirt> vlanx, server was not needed gui/desktop to run ...
[02:11] <fusk> VlanX, sudo fdisk -l
[02:11] <VlanX> oh so it's a major change
[02:12] <blackshirt> vlanx, commonly server version was ubuntu minimal with set of server service was installed
[02:12] <blackshirt> vlanx, but it was depends wwhen you install it service, included or not
[02:12] <kyle__> What is the console and how do I find it?
[02:13] <VlanX> blackshirt: got that :)
[02:13] <blackshirt> kyle_ whats you mean with console here ?
[02:14] <kyle__> I'm...not sure...
[02:14] <kyle__> I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux in general.
[02:15] <wols_> kyle__: usually: ctrl+alt+f2. it's the linux text mode
[02:15] <kyle__> I was asked what the console said when a program crashed.
[02:15] <snark> kyle__, it might be an icon called  Terminal
[02:15] <willdabeast> Does anyone know the difference between -3.5 dB and -7 dB on a modem coaxial splitter?
[02:18] <blackness> if you want a console, in unity type in terminal :P
[02:18] <jagginess> wowowo, a console for what?
[02:22] <fusk> VlanX, what do you mean major change ?
[02:24] <stochastic> For those interested in participating in Movember this year, there's now an Ubuntu network to be a part of http://ca.movember.com/mospace/network/Ubuntu
[02:26] <xangua> !ot | stochastic
[02:26] <stochastic> sorry xangua
[02:28] <stochastic> xangua, is there a channel for community related discussion or is that lumped into 'off topic'?
[02:28] <SirScott> can 12.10 server boot from lvm + raid?
[02:28] <snark> stochastic, how long does it take to grow a mustache?
[02:29] <stochastic> snark that depends on your heritage
[02:29] <joosengee> hi every body
[02:29] <jalance> I've been fighting with my nvidia drivers.  None of the forums I've looked at have helped.  I'm trying to use the nvidia drivers, and I want to rotate my screen.  I just can't seem to get it to work.  I have nvidia-current-updates installed. I'm using TwinView to rotate the screen.
[02:30] <Laice> anyone know why compiz-fusion-plugins-extra was removed from the repository?
[02:30] <joosengee> ubuntu 12.04 is very best.
[02:30] <snark> stochastic, Iwould need a lot more than a month!
[02:30] <joosengee> I use it for 2 years.
[02:30] <kyle__> Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to get started with understanding linux?
[02:31] <xangua> !info compiz-plugins-extra | Laice
[02:31] <Laice> aye, however it's not in the repository
[02:31] <stochastic> snark, then you can just donate to others to help the cause or help spread the word to others
[02:33] <snark> stochastic, I will head over to ca.movember.com and have a gander
[02:34] <stochastic> snark http://ca.movember.com/mospace/network/Ubuntu  is the Ubuntu network link, movember.com is the main site
[02:34] <xangua> !ot | stochastic snark
[02:35] <xangua> Laice: mmm no idea, maybe all plugins are already on compiz-plugin-main ¿
[02:35] <cellofellow> anybody know how I can set 3-finger-tap as middle click? (Or even better, 2-finger and 3-finger for right-click)?
[02:36] <Laice> @xangua :literally no software centre entry, have checked software sources
[02:36] <pcg> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 from 10.04 (upgraded through upgrade manager) and most things seem alright. The biggest problem though is pidgin now no longer appears in the tasktray, and will completely close when I close the 'buddy list' window. What is going on and how do I fix this?
[02:37] <rammy> hello everyone
[02:37] <blackshirt> hello rammy
[02:37] <evilmoo> hello
[02:37] <rammy> new to freenode
[02:38] <pcg> I do have 'pidgin-libnotify' installed, but I do not know if the plugin is enabled. I do not see it in the plugins list. (I had a similar issue long ago, and this was the fix, so just more troubleshooting information if related)
[02:39] <trism> pcg: port to new messaging-menu API in 12.10 isn't complete for pidgin yet
[02:39] <pcg> trism: Thanks for the response. Is there a workaround?
[02:39] <xangua> pcg:the pidgin libnotify plugin doesn't support the new ondemand feature of the message indicator, but you can add pidgin to the system tray blacklist for it to show the system tray icon; use dconf for that...here is an example http://askubuntu.com/questions/39843/application-indicator-for-shutter
[02:39] <frankcox777> howdy
[02:40] <xektrum> pcg, also check option "show system tray icon" under preference, if you choose always it should not close when closing buddy list
[02:41] <pcg> xektrum, It is set to 'always'. "Should" and reality in software differ. :P
[02:41] <AlexNagy> !ot AlexNagy
[02:41] <AlexNagy> !ot | AlexNagy
[02:41] <xektrum> pcg I've just tested on gnome-shell, if I set never and I close buddy, pidgin closes, but If I set always and I close pidgin, it goes to the tray icon
[02:42] <xektrum> however it might be different on unity
[02:42] <frankcox777> anyone willing to help me setup dialup in lubuntu11
[02:42] <pcg> xangua: Thanks for the response. I looked into that askubuntu page and do not have desktop -> unit -> panel in dconf-editor. Possibly related to the fact it is from mid-2011.
[02:42] <pcg> desktop -> unity -> panel **
[02:42] <pcg> xektrum: I'm sure this is directly related to unity.
[02:43] <xektrum> ahh I see, then disregard my suggestion :)
[02:43] <trism> pcg: it is in the dconf-tools package
[02:43] <xektrum> I don't use unity :P
[02:43] <squidly> is there a way to manually get what packages have been installed? I'm trying to restore a really borekd system and I only have /var that is not corupted
[02:43] <xektrum> how can I check where an environment variable is being set other than bashrc ?
[02:43] <snark> frankcox777, as in modem dialup or network connection?
[02:44] <pcg> trism: I have the tool. The entry in the tool is what is missing.
[02:44] <frankcox777> mobem -phone line using gnome-ppp
[02:44] <trism> pcg: oh, com/canonical/unity/panel
[02:44] <frankcox777> snark -modem using gnome-ppp
[02:44] <snark> frankcox777, is it a usb-modem?
[02:44] <pcg> trism: Thanks
[02:45] <trism> pcg: was renamed to match the gsettings key
[02:45] <frankcox777> snark -no-externel serial modem -it is detected as such
[02:46] <frankcox777> snark -ols US Robotics serial modem flashed to 56k
[02:46] <frankcox777> old
[02:47] <pcg> trism: I've added pidgin to the whitelist. Do I need to restart to observe the effects?
[02:47] <frankcox777> snark http://pastebin.com/hJ3jz9TV
[02:47] <trism> pcg: yeah you'll probably need to log out/back in
[02:47] <xangua> pcg: as you were told enable the pidgin icon in it's preferences
[02:47] <snark> frankcox777, not really sure what it is (i understand its some sort of modem!)
[02:47] <pcg> xangua: Trust me, i did long long ago.
[02:48] <pcg> trism, xangua, xektrum: Thank you for your help. Hopefully you won't see me again after I relog.
[02:48] <xangua> pcg: did you add pidgin as "pidgin" with lowercase¿ i've seen skype  agg he went
[02:48] <frankcox777> snark -is is a serial modem , a hardware modem that hooks to the serial port and is automatically detected
[02:49] <frankcox777> snark- it dials through a phone line
[02:49] <trism> I have mine as 'Pidgin' but I don't know that case matters, should probably check sometime
[02:50] <snark> frankcox777, your pastebin says "no dial tone"   is the phone line attached to the modem?
[02:50] <frankcox777> snark http://compare.ebay.com/like/360503172554?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar
[02:50] <frankcox777> snark -yes and the phone line is hot
[02:52] <jiohdi> frankcox777, as I recall from the good ole days, there were certain codes you could send the modem to manually make it do things like connect to test it.... should be a list on line
[02:52] <somsip> frankcox777: called AT commands (IIRC)
[02:52] <jiohdi> thats the ones
[02:52] <frankcox777> snark - the modem is fine- it is a software problem
[02:53] <frankcox777> snark I can connect w/ puppy linux
[02:53] <snark> frankcox777, I think somsip is right with the AT command
[02:54] <frankcox777> what is somsip
[02:54] <DaemonicApathy> A user in the #ubuntu IRC room.
[02:54] <snark> the person in here called somsip!
[02:55] <snark> frankcox777, in puppy linux did you have a file called wvdial.conf?
[02:57] <frankcox777> snark -it has the file but puppy is designed for dialup so you configure it likw windows
[02:57] <somsip> frankcox777: I was just trying to give you a hint on what to search for if you wanted to delve into testing with AT commands. That's all
[02:57] <yourfriendisaac> Will there ever be as many options in Unity  as there were in Gnome2 panel? For example a user friendly menu system with add-ons and options?
[02:58] <frankcox777> snark - I appreciate the thought but it is a pain in the rear to use dialup with lubuntu
[02:58] <Laice> about compiz:  compiz-fusion-plugins-extra was apparently moved to compiz-plugins which is why i was unable to locate it earlier, just an FYI
[02:59] <Laice> !ubottu
[03:00] <yourfriendisaac> Will there ever be as many options in Unity  as there were in Gnome2 panel? For example a user friendly menu system with add-ons and options?
[03:02] <snark> frankcox777, if puppy linux dialed out for you then the needed AT commands would be in the wvdial.conf file
[03:02] <Laice> while we're on the subject of wvdial.........
[03:03] <Laice> having an issue with a gps device in this laptop
[03:03] <Laice> have used the minicom to spark the device into live and it seems to be returning an output on gpspipe -r
[03:04] <Laice> howeveri can't get any software to pick it up, gpsd is running but neither xgps or viking can read the device
[03:04] <frankcox777> snark -yes but I don't think that will change the fact if goes from modem initialized to no dialtone that quick
[03:05] <frankcox777> There is a permission problem somewhere- I think I will just use puppy on this one
[03:05] <almoxarife> Laice: gpsd is pointing at what device?
[03:05] <jerkface03> I'm running 12.04LTS -- What's the easiest way to have a process startup when the system boots up? The process should be run as root, and have various commandline parameters set.
[03:06] <Laice> almoxarife: /dev/ttyACM2
[03:07] <almoxarife> Laice: what type of gps is it?
[03:07] <snark> frankcox777,  better still   get a usb modem if possible
[03:08] <Laice> f3507g , dell varient
[03:08] <Laice> variant*
[03:08] <frankcox777> snark -why?
[03:09] <almoxarife> Laice: if xgps does not see it then gpsd is either not up or not seeing the unit, verify gpsd is up, under what user also
[03:09] <snark> frankcox777,  they can be a lot easier to setup
[03:10] <skypce> hello , how can i run unity-2d-panel standalone?
[03:10] <Laice> almoxarife: ooh that sounds promising, was it the user group dialer?
[03:10] <skypce> i have problems with logout or shutdown
[03:10] <skypce> it is slow 30 seconds
[03:10] <jerkface03> Anyone? Is there some package that Ican use or something? initd scripts are a pain to use :(
[03:11] <skypce> may be unity-2d-panel is waiting for unity-launcher close
[03:11] <Laice> almoxarife: aye gpsd running under nobody
[03:11] <almoxarife> Laice: i am not sure what usergroup would show up in your sys, but i would want to be part of that group
[03:11] <skypce> how can i simulate a unity-2d-launcher
[03:12] <frankcox777> The modem is setup - it found it automatically - I have used the same modems with a usb interface and it makes no difference
[03:12] <Loshki> jerkface03: how about calling it from /etc/rc.local?
[03:12] <skypce> for bypass the comprobation of unity-2d-panel
[03:13] <almoxarife> skypce: login to unity/failsafe(something to that effect) ?
[03:13] <freeu> Happy HalloWeen (almost)
[03:13] <Sauron8711> hi?=
[03:13] <Laice> what does the user nobody represent? not something i've come across before
[03:14] <Sauron8711> mother of god
[03:14] <Laice> father actually
[03:14] <Wug> jerkface03: init scripts are not that bad
[03:14] <Sauron8711> i though this chats are something old and no used
[03:14] <Wug> there should be a skeleton one you can copy and modify to suit your needs
[03:14] <somsip> Laice: maybe this will help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobody_(username)
[03:14] <Laice> ty
[03:14] <Wug> im lead to believe that if you didnt want to use an init script you'd use cron, but I have never bothered to learn how it works
[03:15] <jerkface03> Wug:  Even that's a bit iffy. I just wish there was some interface for it or something
[03:15] <Laice> it's curious because i started up gpsd with sudo service gpsd start, and it's running under the user nobody whensurely that would be root?
[03:16] <Wug> just copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to something else and play with the variables at the top, which should be sufficient to run a process as root without any special tricks
[03:16] <almoxarife> Laice: its not an issue with gpsd then, the device itself, how does it connect to the sys?
[03:16] <snark> frankcox777, yes I understand    its an AT command problem   you can sent AT commands from the command line to the modem
[03:16] <snark> frankcox777, yes I understand    its an AT command problem   you can send* AT commands from the command line to the modem
[03:16] <Wug> you then have to register it with whatever the command is
[03:17] <Laice> almoxarife: lsusb:vBus 002 Device 014: ID 413c:8147 Dell Computer Corp. F3507g Mobile Broadband Module
[03:17] <Wug> I don't remember, exactly what it is, but it will set up links to the init script in the correct places and it will start and stop itself automatically at boot and shutdown
[03:18] <abdo> hi
[03:18] <Laice> hi
[03:18] <Wug> jerkface03: I think its update-rc.d <yourinitscriptname> defaults
[03:18] <xangua> does xfce panel supports the menu indicator stuff¿
[03:18] <Wug> run it from /etc/init.d
[03:18] <freeu> have you had your portion of fear this night ?
[03:19] <jerkface03> Wug: so I created my script then I run that command and it should run everytime i boot, or will I have to specifically start it each time?
[03:19] <Laice> i fear waking up in the morning and having to go to work.
[03:19] <Laice> mostly because it's 3:19am
[03:19] <freeu> HalloWeen 20 Y.O. Later of John Carpenter
[03:21] <abdobonna> hi
[03:21] <net_runner007> hello evryboddy
[03:21] <pepee> hi
[03:21] <abdobonna> my ubuntu software center is not working
[03:21] <Laice> how so?
[03:22] <freeu> change distribution
[03:22] <abdobonna> it frozen
[03:22] <Laice> is it  in the middle of an update?
[03:22] <net_runner007> can u exit?
[03:22] <abdobonna> no
[03:23] <net_runner007> try the killall cmd from terminal?
[03:23] <abdobonna> exit ??
[03:23] <almoxarife> ubuntu software center <-- what is the system process name for it in ubuntu
[03:23] <trism> xangua: it only supports the gtk2 indicators, I only see application and sound in the repo
[03:23] <Laice> alteratively if you want a gui to do it from open up "System monitor" and find it in the processes list
[03:23] <trism> xangua: in 12.10 that is
[03:24] <Laice> called software-center for the record
[03:25] <lead0r> i am a few months into linux and i have ubuntu 12.04 and have been trying to install and get the application f.lux to function properly and have been having trouble
[03:25] <almoxarife> abdobonna: do this, alt-f2 , type in it " pkill software-center "
[03:25] <lead0r> does anyone use this application
[03:25] <LordOfTime> lead0r, what's f.lux?
[03:26] <lead0r> it adds a halogen effect to the monitor reducing eyestrain
[03:26] <Laice> is that the lighting program?
[03:26] <Laice> ah yes, only mac and windows from what i can see
[03:26] <abdobonna> what the name of ubuntu software center in system monitor??
[03:26] <Laice> software-centre @abdobonna
[03:26] <lead0r> i got it onto the machine and running with the sudo-ap-get
[03:26] <Laice> one sec will try lead0r
[03:27] <Laice> what was the package name?
[03:27] <abdobonna> not found
[03:28] <lead0r> http://stereopsis.com/flux/linux.html
[03:28] <Laice> ah that's a ppa, will see if it works in a sec will just finish helping abdobonna
[03:29] <lead0r> preesh
[03:29] <Laice> abdobonna try opening a terminal and tryping "ps -e | grep software-center
[03:29] <abdobonna> ok
[03:29] <Laice> that should give you a process id
[03:29] <hightall> hello everybody
[03:30] <Laice> then you can kill that id with "sudo kill ######"
[03:30] <Laice> where the #####'s are the process id
[03:31] <abdobonna> not give me any thing
[03:31] <Laice> hmm
[03:31] <Laice> very strange ghost then lol, muse be haunted
[03:32] <abdobonna> no any programs look like software center ??
[03:33] <Laice> not that i'm aware
[03:33] <Laice> might be worth restarting
[03:33] <Laice> and seeing if the problem repeats itself
[03:33] <Laice> lead0r: getting the same problem trying to install it
[03:33] <wols> Laice: you can kill a process by its name too. man killall
[03:34] <Laice> lead0r: looks like the repository is returning a 404
[03:34] <Laice> !killall
[03:34] <Laice> bad ubottu, no biscuit.
[03:35] <abdobonna> I not found it on system monitor
[03:35] <lead0r> laice: yeah i couldnt get it to function
[03:35] <Laice> !
[03:35] <Laice> from apt-get update: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[03:35] <lead0r> yeah i got that too
[03:36] <Laice> likely not been ported to quantal yet
[03:36] <lead0r> i am tempted to email the guy who wrote the linux version kilian and ask him
[03:36] <Laice> either that or try compiling from source
[03:36] <lead0r> hmm well thanks
[03:36] <Laice> looks like there's a source on github
[03:38] <abdobonna> !?
[03:39] <lead0r> laice: what can be done with the source
[03:40] <lead0r> i saw that there was a source on github but i figurred before i would try and do anything i would find a place to ask questions
[03:41] <Laice> i'm no master on sources im afraid
[03:41] <TheLordOfTime> lead0r, if you have the source you can try building it.
[03:41] <TheLordOfTime> lead0r, no guarantee it'll work, check the verison numbers though
[03:41] <TheLordOfTime> lead0r, if the PPA you mentioned has the same version that the git has, then the issue'll likely recurr
[03:41] <wols> "compile
[03:41] <wols> !compile
[03:42] <juan_> Anyone know of an app in Ubuntu that will show what shell commands the gui software runs when you do stuff?
[03:42] <wols> lead0r: I very strongly suggest you get the ubuntuizes sources for precise and compile them to a .deb package you can install. that way you can easily uninstall or upgrade it later when a quantal version of the software comes out
[03:43] <TheLordOfTime> lead0r, given the version and the upload dates, i'm going to say this hasnt been updated for a while
[03:43] <wols> juan_: pstree for example. depends how long those shell commands last
[03:43] <Laice> juan_ runn the program from the terminal
[03:43] <lead0r> thanks wols
[03:43] <TheLordOfTime> juan_, depends what you're running.  what're you looking for there?
[03:44] <lead0r> yeah that is what i figured
[03:44] <lead0r> cool cool cool
[03:44] <lead0r> laterz
[03:44] <lead0r>  sleep to me
[03:45] <juan_> Well, I downloaded BackBox Linux, and am familiar with Fedora. I would like to run Ubuntu Software Center, and actually see the shell command lines for the update.
[03:45] <juan_> Like usually I can use yum or rpm to get packages . ..just curious how ubuntu software does it ...
[03:46] <MinotaurV> apt-get
[03:46] <almoxarife> juan_: system-monitor will give you the names, so will top and htop
[03:46] <almoxarife> juan_: you can't mix-match rpm with debs
[03:47] <juan_> you are right, top says software-center . ....got a man page to ...thanks, that works . ..
[03:47] <wols> juan_: we don't support anything but ubuntu here. ask backbox people please
[03:47] <almoxarife> well, one can alien a deb to rpm, not sure what type of alien will come out though
[03:48] <juan_> hmm ... backbox is based off Ubuntu ....
[03:48] <wols> but it is not ubuntu, and hence off topic
[03:48] <juan_> actually asking about the ubunto software center . ..so does that qualify?
[03:48] <wols> no. either you run ubuntu, then this is the channel for you, or you don't, then it's not
[03:49] <juan_> but its cool, I get it.
[03:49] <wols> ubuntu can't and doesn't know how backbox changed their software
[03:49] <almoxarife> wols: i don't know about that, i run what i run, i ask questions pertaining to ubuntu here
[03:50] <juan_> kinda what I was thinking, basic linux . ...
[03:50] <wols> almoxarife: you might not know but it's the channel policy
[03:50] <wols> no derivatives or other linux distros supported
[03:51] <juan_> i'll make sure all my questions revolve around ubuntu . ..no biggie . ...
[03:52] <almoxarife> wols: i am sure the policy is to stick to questions about ubuntu, i doubt it says ' not running ubuntu? , not the place for you' , i will leave it at that, its offtopic too :)
[03:52] <TheLordOfTime> wols, the only derivatives supported in this channel are Xubuntu, Kubuntu, and Lubuntu, as well, since those're official derivatives.  sometimes people ask for help with those here instead of the respective normal channels for those derivs.
[03:52] <wols> TheLordOfTime: ok, if you call them derivatives
[03:53] <TheLordOfTime> wols, http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives  (some call them derivatives, others call them flavors, same difference)
[03:54] <juan_> I see this is a passionate topic . ...
[03:54] <TheLordOfTime> its a small topic no biggie
[03:54]  * TheLordOfTime returns to what he was doing
[03:55] <apeman> i installed something with apt-get, how do i find what files it installer where?
[03:55] <wols> apeman: dpkg -L <package name>
[03:55] <wols> this doesn't show debconf created files however
[03:56] <K350> Do you guys know if Enlightment got an IRC channel somewhere?
[03:57] <bazhang> !alis | K350 have a search
[03:57] <wols> K350: #e here on freenode
[04:04] <K350> wols: oh :(
[04:04] <blackshirt> ah,
[04:05] <K350> bazhang: thanks for the tip :-)
[04:07] <e10byagrue> HAPPY HALLOWEEN!
[04:11] <polp>  i have a problem MBR of my computer is not working correctly .I can't boot  win's on it .Can any one help me how to repair my MBR
[04:11] <crimsonmane> put your windows disc in and reboot
[04:16] <polp> How  to fix MBR ? During installing an error message is displayed 'I can't  find where am i " check your MBR ?
[04:16] <wols> polp: installing what exactly?
[04:17] <wols> and how
[04:19] <polp> wols: installing window 7
[04:20] <Marius80> hi
[04:20] <wols> this is a channel for Ubuntu only, a Linux distribution. get support for Windows in ##windows
[04:20] <Marius80> please tell me, why the first command works,  but the second gives an error
[04:20] <Marius80> iwconfig wlan0 key 12ABC45678
[04:20] <Marius80> ^ everything okay
[04:20] <Marius80> but:
[04:21] <Marius80> root@linux:/# iwconfig wlan0 key foo1D4ta
[04:21] <Marius80> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[04:21] <Marius80>     invalid argument "foo1D4ta".
[04:21] <polp> wols: same problem with ubuntu 12.10 but work fine with ubuntu 10.04 (gnome 2)
[04:21] <wols> Marius80: the first one uses Hex numbers only (0-9, A-F), the 2nd one is a string
[04:21] <Marius80> hum
[04:22] <wols> polp: gnome has nothing to do with bootloaders. and the error message would be different too than you wrote before
[04:22] <Marius80> wols, well, my password is a sting
[04:22] <Marius80> string
[04:22] <Marius80> what shell I do then?
[04:22] <Marius80> convert it to hex?
[04:23] <polp> wols: ok ! can't install win 7 and ubuntu 12,0X due to hardware dependencies and MBR
[04:23] <blanco> 21/m here. cam2cam?
[04:23] <wols> Marius80: use s:foo1D4ta   see man iwconfig for details
[04:23] <Marius80> blanco, bad joke?
[04:24] <Marius80> wols, I tried s: before,  same error
[04:24] <wols> polp: more info needed. about the ubuntu install only
[04:24] <Marius80> root@linux:/# iwconfig wlan0 key s:foo1D4ta
[04:24] <Marius80> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[04:24] <Marius80>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[04:25] <MinotaurV> Apparently some one on freenode thought I was a troll being on Ubuntu Widnows and MacOSX as well as their channel I got banned lol
[04:25] <MinotaurV> WRONG WINDOW!
[04:27] <polp> wols: i'm not sure but when i boot ubuntu using Live USB  , it work fine but when i go for installing it gave me   an error that ' please clear your DVD /CD drive lens or check your h/w update .But while installing window 7 it gave me an MBR error 'can't found where am i '
[04:27] <crimsonmane> i'm certain that's not the reason you were banned
[04:28] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[04:28] <silv3r_m00n> I started the distribution upgrade, but I think its using a very slow server, can I stop it now ?
[04:28] <silv3r_m00n> what will happen if I stop it ?
[04:28] <wols> polp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[04:29] <theos> hi all! suddenly my headphone jack stopped working last night. there is little or no-sound in the headphones. the headphones are fine. the speakers work fine too. ubuntu is sensing the headphones. but no output in headphones. please help!
[04:29] <wols> silv3r_m00n: you can. especially when it's still only downloading
[04:29] <wols> silv3r_m00n: nothing will happen
[04:29] <kaushal> Hi
[04:29] <Marius80> wols, sorry, I don't want to disturb you,  but did you see me answer?
[04:29] <kaushal> Can someone please comment on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2012-November/265008.html
[04:29] <silv3r_m00n> wols: yeah its just started downloading packages
[04:30] <wols> Marius80: I did.
[04:30] <Marius80> wols: so what am I doing wrong?
[04:30] <wols> Marius80: isn't iwconfig doing WEP only?
[04:30] <silv3r_m00n> wols: thanks, did it
[04:31] <Marius80> wols, good argument
[04:31] <Marius80> isn't there any way to connect using the command line?
[04:31] <wols> arguments are not followed by a question mark. this is a question
[04:32] <wols> you can simply edit /etc/network/interfaces and it will do it all automatically. it's what I generally use. not very good when you have many different APs to connect to however
[04:32] <wajeemba> hey all, trying to reinstall grub using this guide: http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/grub-reinstall.htm Getting to the part where I run "update-grub" and I get the following error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow.
[04:33] <wujie> HI
[04:33] <wujie> excuse me
[04:33] <Marius80> wols, I am just google'ing to find out how
[04:33] <Marius80> will tell you the result soon
[04:34] <wols> Marius80: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-wpa-wpa2-wireless-wifi-networking/ for example
[04:34] <wajeemba> wujie, just ask. people will answer if they know :)
[04:34] <wols> wajeemba: chroot to your ubuntu installation instead
[04:34] <wujie> ok,thank
[04:35] <Marius80> wols, done
[04:35] <Marius80> wols, how can I tell my pc to connect now?
[04:35] <Marius80> it's been set to "auto"
[04:35] <JaySee> is there any way to install a version of ia32-libs that isn't broken?
[04:35] <Marius80> do I need to restart?
[04:35] <wols> Marius80: ifup <interface> for example
[04:36] <Marius80> oh, like on debian...
[04:36] <wujie> What do you know Deepin linux?
[04:36] <wols> Marius80: it's exactly like debian for a good reason: ubuntu got it all from debian :P
[04:36] <Marius80> wols, it's doing something weired
[04:36] <wols> wujie: we only know ubuntu linux, nothing else. for deepin linux you must ask elsewhere
[04:37] <Marius80> wols, http://pastebin.com/a4Ca2FCN
[04:37] <wujie> The os is on ubuntu ,
[04:37] <wols> wujie: no it's not. It's based on ubuntu but not ubuntu
[04:37] <Marius80> wols, I need to update the paste
[04:38] <Marius80> one moment please
[04:38] <JaySee> is there any way to install a version of ia32-libs that isn't broken?
[04:38] <wols> nothing weird. check if you are authenticated (syslog should have it)
[04:38] <wols> JaySee: ask a sensible question
[04:38] <wols> !errors | JaySee
[04:38] <wajeemba> wols, ok, that would be "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ubuntu ; chroot /mnt/ubuntu"?
[04:38] <Marius80> wols, now it's finished:   http://pastebin.com/TB1exFCe
[04:39] <OerHeks> JaySee, since 11.10 ubuntu 64 bit is multi-arch
[04:39] <wols> wajeemba: yes, for update-grub that should suffice
[04:39] <YIFU> deepin, china,i has been use it
[04:39] <wols> oh no. os-prober needs /dev and /proc too. need to bind mount them before chrooting
[04:40] <wajeemba> wols: "error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)."
[04:40] <wols> wajeemba: yes, bind mount /dev first, /proc too probably
[04:41] <FISH_SOUP> hi, i have just installed ubuntu-server but i am unable to perform any root command due to "username is not in the sudoers list"
[04:41] <FISH_SOUP> what's the default password for root ?
[04:41] <wols> there is none
[04:41] <crimsonmane> FISH_SOUP: type "su" and press enter
[04:42] <wajeemba> wols: after "bind mount /dev ; bind mount /proc" I get the same error. This is a new install, so I'm curious as to why grub failed.. I think I did tell it to install to a small /dev/sda1 partition in the wizard, so that could be my problem..
[04:42] <FISH_SOUP> type su and press enter, it gives me authentication error
[04:42] <wols> wajeemba: did you type "bind mount /dev" as a command?
[04:43] <wajeemba> yes, in a root shell
[04:43] <FISH_SOUP> it asked me for a password when doing so, but if its not given then how do i know whats the password?
[04:43] <wols> wajeemba: that obviously is not a valid command...
[04:43] <FISH_SOUP> during installation, they ask you to provide a username and password
[04:44] <FISH_SOUP> other than that, nothing else
[04:44] <FISH_SOUP> so how do i install stuff if i cant even get down to root
[04:44] <wols> !root
[04:44] <wajeemba> wols: ok, I guess I don't know what you mean by bind then yet. I'm not quite a *nix noob anymore, but definitely not on sysadmin level.. xD
[04:44] <wols> wajeemba: mount -bind
[04:44] <FISH_SOUP> wols, yes i understand
[04:44] <FISH_SOUP> but i cant sudo!
[04:45] <wols> FISH_SOUP: if your sudoers file is fubar, then something bad happened on install. I suggest you use a live cd and fix it
[04:45] <FISH_SOUP> it keeps giving me <username is not in the sudoers list>
[04:45] <FISH_SOUP> if i am not even in the sudoers list, how can i do what you asked
[04:45] <wols> FISH_SOUP: live cd
[04:45] <crimsonmane> FISH_SOUP: reboot the computer, hold shift while it boots until you reach the grub menu. select Recovery. when you reach the prompt type without quote marks "passwd <newpasswordhere>" and that changes the root password so you can enter "su"
[04:45] <HulkHogan> sudo visudo
[04:45] <FISH_SOUP> yeah, bad install..even when clicking next all the way, it can "result" in bad install?
[04:46] <FISH_SOUP> reboot: needs to be root
[04:46] <FISH_SOUP> lol
[04:47] <HulkHogan> try run
[04:47] <HulkHogan> sudo visudo
[04:47] <HulkHogan> then add ur self
[04:47] <wols> FISH_SOUP: are you in a ssh shell?
[04:47] <FISH_SOUP> yes
[04:47] <FISH_SOUP> i am
[04:47] <wols> then I guess you are fscked
[04:47] <crimsonmane> lol
[04:47] <FISH_SOUP> more like ubuntu screwed up for not b eing able to install properly
[04:48] <crimsonmane> FISH_SOUP: get off your butt, go to the computer, and reboot it like a pro
[04:48] <crimsonmane> FISH_SOUP: reboot the computer, hold shift while it boots until you reach the grub menu. select Recovery. when you reach the prompt type without quote marks "passwd <newpasswordhere>" and that changes the root password so you can enter "su"
[04:48] <wajeemba> wols: so "mount --bind /dev /dev"?
[04:49] <Marius80> wols, sorry,  please help me with that wifi stuff
[04:49] <wols> wajeemba: no. mount --bind /dev <chroot path>/dev
[04:49] <Marius80> wols, I really don't get it to work out for me
[04:49] <wajeemba> wols: from within chroot?
[04:49] <FISH_SOUP> so much for VMWare "Easy Install"
[04:49] <wols> wajeemba: no. before you chroot. pointless doing it inside
[04:49] <kaushal> testing
[04:50] <wols> wajeemba: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[04:50] <wols> Marius80: what did syslog or dmesg say?
[04:51] <OerHeks> FISH_SOUP, "clicking next all the way " isn't the way to setup a server.
[04:52] <FISH_SOUP> OerHeks, well, they didnt ask for any other information except username and password
[04:52] <FISH_SOUP> what else can i do other than clicking next to continue?
[04:52]  * rypervenche facepalms.
[04:53] <wajeemba> wols: also needed to bind boot and sys, but it says it worked :D
[04:53] <FISH_SOUP> i blame this issue on VMWare "Easy Install"
[04:53] <FISH_SOUP> doing it manually now
[04:54] <cryptic> ugh, looks like apt-get upgrade screwed up booting
[04:54] <wajeemba> wols: is there any way check before I reboot? or do I just bite the bullet and come back to live cd if it fails..
[04:56] <Marius80> wols, http://pastebin.com/bX2NijWH
[04:56] <wols> wajeemba: only thing you can do
[04:56] <FISH_SOUP> lets hope this manual install goes well too
[04:56] <wajeemba> wols: well, here I go. Will be back if it didn't work xD Thx for the crash course in chroot, that'll be handy :D
[04:57] <wols> Marius80: line 9 and 10. why do you use ndiswrapper inside a VM?
[04:58] <wols> oh. msiread. no VM it seems
[04:59] <FISH_SOUP> hmm, isnt it weird why they asked you to select if you would like to install LAMP Server when obviously you are already installing Linux?
[04:59] <FISH_SOUP> unless you want it to install another Linux on top on Ubuntu
[05:00] <Marius80> wols, it's not a virtual machine,  but virtual box is running as a guest on this host
[05:00] <Marius80> wols, but virtual box does not deal with that issue
[05:01] <OerHeks> FISH_SOUP, maybe you want only ssh & ftp.
[05:02] <wols> Marius80: what wlan chip is it?
[05:02] <wols> FISH_SOUP: no it's not weird. LAMP in this case means the packages for apache, php and mysql
[05:02] <Marius80> realtek
[05:02] <guang_> I run command "ctags -R *" in the dir "/usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk",but it still can not make a reference for some function
[05:02] <Marius80> wols, ndiswrapper gives the driver
[05:02] <wols> Marius80: a bit more info needed. lspci or lsusb
[05:03] <silv3r_m00n> I am not able to change the repository server in synaptic manager, it reverts to the server of my country, why ?
[05:04] <Marius80> wols, 0e:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8172 (rev 10)
[05:04] <Marius80> 14:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[05:04] <wols> silv3r_m00n: edit /etc/apt/sources.list then
[05:05] <silv3r_m00n> wols: thanks again
[05:06] <FISH_SOUP> ok everything is well now, sudo works fine with manual install...screw VMWAre install easy
[05:06] <wols> Marius80: lspci -k |grep 10ec
[05:07] <Marius80> wols, no output
[05:07] <wols> Marius80: is it a eeePC? from the looks of it, it's a rtl8187se which would be suppported without ndiswrapper
[05:07] <Marius80> wols, its a toshiba satellite
[05:07] <wols> Marius80: lspci -nn then only the pci id of the wireless card would be needed
[05:08] <Marius80> wols, beside a lot of other stuff,  I get this:
[05:08] <Marius80> 0e:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8172] (rev 10)
[05:08] <Marius80> 14:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 02)
[05:09] <Athquiz> is anyone else having problems installing either skype or wine on 64 bit 12.10?
[05:09] <|Anthony|> I have a 1TB drive with several partitions. 2 partitions are OS partitions and i choose between them at boot. There sizes are 125GB and 75GB respectively. I just got a new 300GB hdd and want to clone those 2 partitions to it so I can still choose between either at boot. How would i do this?
[05:10] <Azelphur> I'm having an odd issue with installing java on my server http://pastebin.com/kuAmARFs any ideas?
[05:10] <wols> Marius80: what ubuntu version do you have?
[05:10] <brandtone> i upgraded to 12.10 ubuntu and now every time i boot, or shutdown i have a terminal window showing all processes shutting down, etc. i'm very new, but when i use netstat it shows all connections as "stream" with multiple ports in use, etc. on shutdown there are many scripts that seem strange, albeit i am a noob, but i don't know if this is normal behavior with the upgrade/patches, or ? never did this before going to 12.10
[05:10] <wols> Marius80: cause linux supports this chip since kernel 3.0 with the "rtlwifi" driver
[05:11] <Marius80> wols, you got my version as private message
[05:12] <wols> Marius80: and you can't run a supported ubuntu why?
[05:12] <Marius80> wols, because trinity desktop still has a bug
[05:12] <Marius80> I am wainting for the new version,  then I will upgrade
[05:13] <wols> what bug?
[05:13] <wols> and what trinity desktop? you said it's a toshiba satellite
[05:14] <Marius80> trinity desktop is the old KDE 3
[05:14] <Marius80> its beeing developed now as "trinity desktop"
[05:14] <wols> trinity happens to be a current AMD cpu too
[05:14] <Marius80> oh I see
[05:15] <wols> I still strongly suggest a new Ubuntu version. with a recent kernel with proper support for the hardware
[05:15] <rootbrian> Like I said earlier, i'd try cheese out in the terminal and it crashed, never able to start, paste of the results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322656/ (this being on ubuntu 12.04 LTS)
[05:16] <cryptic> what would cause ubuntu to immediately switch to a blinking cursor upon reaching the splash screen at boot?
[05:16] <brandtone>  netstat
[05:16] <brandtone> Active Internet connections (w/o servers)
[05:16] <brandtone> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State
[05:16] <brandtone> tcp        0      0 Brandt-PC:53960         pool-72-84-220-123:9000 ESTABLISHED
[05:16] <brandtone> tcp        0      0 Brandt-PC:38100         ps14443.dreamhost.:9001 ESTABLISHED
[05:16] <FloodBot1> brandtone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <brandtone> tcp        0      0 Brandt-PC:46232         mix.inf.tu-dresde:https ESTABLISHED
[05:17] <rootbrian> so there is obviously a bug with cheese
[05:17] <wols> Marius80: the main error I saw in your dmesg paste was about ndiswrapper.
[05:17] <almoxarife> rootbrian: you want to see output from a vid-camera?
[05:18] <Marius80> wols, I see...
[05:18] <rootbrian> both webcam and capture card.
[05:18] <Marius80> wols, thank you so far
[05:18] <almoxarife> rootbrian: use vlc
[05:19] <rootbrian> almoxarife: cheese was mainly used to verify if the webcam I was using, actually worked with linux. But cheese doesn't start anymore since 12.04 LTS.
[05:19] <Gerowen> Is there something like the "Additional Drivers" program in previous releases to help me easily install and active proprietary ATI drivers?
[05:20] <almoxarife> rootbrian: vlc works
[05:21] <deitarion> Does anyone know of any programs which seem to be detecting whether the desktop is currently composited? (Programs I could pick apart to learn to write an "is composited" test helper for a shell script)
[05:22] <deitarion> I normally run Lubuntu to squeeze out as much performance as possible, so I don't have much experience with this aspect of composited desktops.
[05:22] <rootbrian> almoxarife: But does it capture video at the maximum resolution possible and save it to a file?
[05:23] <almoxarife> rootbrian: of course
[05:24] <rootbrian> almoxarife: I have never succeeded to get it working. But it's worth another try. I'm using the PPA for it and since it's always being updated, it should work. Thanks for the advice and renewed confidence, until canonical decides to package a *working* cheese and not some nightly unstable build.
[05:25] <rootbrian> almoxarife: i'm going to test it once an upload using flash player, completes.
[05:26] <almoxarife> rootbrian: vlc is the only thing i have ever used for my built-in cam, and i mostly hear people complain about 'cheese' not doing what ever it is that it should do
[05:27] <almoxarife> someone have any idea how to get pidgin to highlight the nick name with something other than bright orange?
[05:28] <almoxarife> with plugins installed, running in kde even
[05:29] <rootbrian> almoxarife: I have no issues with cheese even if it doesn't work correctly when capturing video or photos, as long as it starts up and functions, i'm cool with it. But if it never starts at all, then it gets on my/others nerves.
[05:31] <almoxarife> someone earlier brought up f.flux, i googled it, turns out there is already something older out there called redshift, so i installed it, imagine that, you can actually get a lappy to go redlit after day light
[05:31] <almoxarife> amazing
[05:37] <rootbrian> Filed a bug with cheese, but searched before filing a duplicate one, had I not done the search. I added the terminal dump to it via the comments. Hopefully they do fix it, and canonical does the right thing come their next 'feature' release. :)
[05:43] <brandtone> since updating to 12.10 my boot and shutdown shows the processes which nvr happened before. i am new to linux/ubuntu/deb and not sure what to make out of them or why it just started showing all processes.  some seem odd to me so i used netstat, which showed multiple ports as "stream" and from places i have no idea from. is this normal with the new release?
[05:45] <Seven_Six_Two> I've inserted an SD to my laptop, and it automounts. mount command at terminal says rw, but nautilus says ro when I try to delete a file. what's up with that?
[05:46] <rootbrian> Getting the webcam working in vlc player shouldn't be that hard, it's not working for me. :S
[05:46] <deitarion> Seven_Six_Two: What does it say about the permissions and file ownership in the preferences dialog for the file?
[05:47] <aum__> hello everyone, i trying to write a startup script in that i want that the sound should be in its maximum state. please suggest how can i do so...
[05:47] <deitarion> aum__: Add a line involving "amixer" to your /etc/rc.local
[05:47] <Seven_Six_Two> deitarion, owned by my user, read and write
[05:47] <Seven_Six_Two> my group has read-only
[05:48] <deitarion> Seven_Six_Two: Hmm. That IS strange. What filesystem is the card formatted with?
[05:48] <brandtone> here is the relevant URL, i think, to my question http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322659/
[05:48] <Seven_Six_Two> I tried changing group to rw, and it pops up saying read only filesystem. I unmounted it and scanned it. fs clean
[05:48] <Seven_Six_Two> deitarion, vfat
[05:48] <Seven_Six_Two> deitarion, it's the sd card for my book reader
[05:49] <deitarion> Seven_Six_Two: I think I know what the problem is, then.
[05:49] <deitarion> aum__: This is probably the line you want to add to /etc/rc.local --> "amixer set Master 100%"
[05:50] <Seven_Six_Two> deitarion, I'm all ears! Well, my ears are at any rate
[05:50] <deitarion> Seven_Six_Two: I've noticed that, for whatever insane reason, the FAT32 filesystems that SD cards come with tend to get corrupted. I've never lost any data, but it does cause Linux to force read-only behaviour for my own safety.
[05:51] <aum__> deitarion, what i guess, amixer is hardware dependent, the name Master changes from board to board.
[05:51] <deitarion> aum__: Then run "amixer scontrols" to find the names your card uses.
[05:51] <Seven_Six_Two> deitarion, are you suggesting that I reformat it?
[05:52] <rootbrian> Seven_Six_Two: i'm suggesting the same thing.
[05:52] <deitarion> Seven_Six_Two: Yeah. I've found that, if I copy all the data off, reformat using the Linux formatter, and then move it back on, it generally stays un-corrupted after that.
[05:52] <aum__> deitarion, should i choose the first one int that list...
[05:53] <Haris> Hello all
[05:53] <Seven_Six_Two> deitarion, alright. I'll give it a go. I lost my copy of "Flow my Tears the Policeman said"
[05:53] <Haris> ubuntu auto install is not picking up network source for install
[05:53] <Haris> please help
[05:53] <deitarion> Seven_Six_Two: From the command-line (which I always use), the command is mkfs.vfat or mkdosfs (same command).
[05:53] <Haris> it asks for cdrom
[05:53] <deitarion> aum__: Pastebin the list of options it gives you.
[05:54] <rootbrian> Haris: I suggest downloading the CD or DVD image, burn it, then boot from it and proceed to installing from there.
[05:54] <Haris> I need to install this via network
[05:54] <Haris> I am remotely connected to the box
[05:54] <rootbrian> Haris: Or you could use unetbootin to extract everything to a USB stick/thumb/flash drive or memory card.
[05:55] <Seven_Six_Two> Haris, are you using oob connection?
[05:55] <Haris> oob ?
[05:55] <rootbrian> I think he means out of band
[05:55] <deitarion> Haris: He's asking how you are remotely connected.
[05:55] <Haris> via kvm
[05:55] <Haris> over internet
[05:56] <Haris> I can boot the box from network, the install starts
[05:56] <Haris> but it doesn't pick up the network source for installing ubuntu
[05:56] <rootbrian> Do you have complete access privileges?
[05:56] <Haris> it goes for local install, I think
[05:56] <Haris> yes, I do
[05:56] <deitarion> Haris: What installer are you using?
[05:56] <Seven_Six_Two> you're doing pxb?
[05:56] <rootbrian> Maybe the network source isn't mounted?
[05:57] <Haris> box1 (where I need to install ubuntu 11.1.0) <-LAN -> PXE/cobbler box
[05:57] <Haris> box1 <-internet / kvm -> my PC
[05:57] <rootbrian> Are you in the same building/area/room/floor as the box?
[05:57] <Seven_Six_Two> aah...ok, now I get it. what is your network src? internet? your own archive?
[05:58] <Haris> the pxe box has the ubuntu files extracted from iso and placed in a folder accessible over http://
[05:58] <Haris> my own archive
[05:58] <aum__> deitarion, my question is should i choose first one in that list every time ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322693/
[05:58] <Haris> I have it placed at http://192.168.1.29/cblr/ubuntu/
[05:58] <deitarion> Haris: I don't think that's how you're supposed to do it.
[05:58] <aln> HI
[05:58] <Athquiz> anyone know how I can get the ia32-libs on a 64 bit system?
[05:59] <Haris> deitarion: Please elaborate
[05:59] <vooze> Athquiz: sudo apt-get install libjpeg62:i386
[05:59] <Haris> should it be ftp rather than http ?
[05:59] <Seven_Six_Two> is that path a list of debs?
[05:59] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a list of debs at that path?
[05:59] <Haris> that's the path to the folder where the ubuntu 11.10 iso is extracted
[06:00] <Haris> I think the debs list is at
[06:00] <rootbrian> Haris: I would suggest, if you have physical access to it at some point, install it from the CD or DVD.
[06:00] <Haris> rootbrian: hold please
[06:00] <deitarion> Haris: Generally, in the name of being foolproof, installers tend to actually check whether the CD/DVD source is really a CD/DVD drive. I do know that you can install Debian-based distros from network sources, but the official steps to setting up your own mirror probably result in a slightly different filesystem.
[06:00] <Seven_Six_Two> ok, if you're going to use an iso, mount it loopback and use it as a cd source, not network.
[06:00] <Athquiz> vooze: unable to locate package
[06:00] <Haris> http://192.168.1.29/cobbler/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/
[06:00] <aln> I recently buy a D-Link wireless modem router. I can cannect with it in bridge mode. But in PPPOE mode i can't connect.
[06:00] <deitarion> s/filesystem/filesystem layout/
[06:01] <Haris> this folder contains Packages.gz
[06:01] <Athquiz> I'm just trying to get wine running, but I'm getting all kinds of missing dependencies
[06:01] <vooze> Athquiz: hmm, weird.. worked for me :/
[06:01] <vooze> Athquiz: what version are you using?
[06:01] <Athquiz> 12.10
[06:01] <Athquiz> 64 bit
[06:01] <deitarion> aum__: I don't have enough experience to say conclusively. I thought every device I've ever seen or heard of had "Master" as a standard control name.
[06:02] <Haris> deitarion: that'd be pretty odd if debian couldn't be installed over network.
[06:02] <vooze> Athquiz: did you copy exactly what I wrote?
[06:02] <aln> Anyone can help me?
[06:02] <rootbrian> aln: Is the modem/router configured for DHCP?
[06:02] <Athquiz> vooze: yeah
[06:02] <Athquiz> copy paste
[06:02] <Haris> where's the debs packages in the ubuntu 11.10-server iso ?
[06:02] <Seven_Six_Two> Haris, it can, I'm just not sure an extracted install cd is the same thing as an apt archive
[06:02] <aum__> deitarion, thanks , i have seen such name other than master :(
[06:02] <deitarion> Haris: It can. My point is that the layout of the files in /mnt/cdrom0 will probably be subtly different from http://www.example.com/working_debian_mirror/
[06:02] <the_dark_knight> hey, I want one my process to be up an running all the time. even after a fail/abort i want it to restart. I am using upstart approach. Can somebody give me a sample code to say run a sample.py file like this. please. I have been trying to get it working but I don't understand a lot of this. http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[06:03] <vooze> Athquiz: then I dont know sorry :/ just double checked.. it works here
[06:03] <Haris> ah I see
[06:03] <Haris> I can perform a network install from a mirror present over the internet as well, such as uk.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[06:04] <Haris> I do also have => box1 <- LAN -> NAT gw <- Internet
[06:04] <jinglan> hi,guys
[06:04] <deitarion> Haris: Last I checked, yeah. I don't remember how Ubuntu's recent changes affect things but I know older Ubuntu and current Debian both support minimal installers where everything except the installer itself is pulled from the Ubuntu/Debian servers.
[06:04] <rootbrian> aln: Is that wireless modem-router connected to a ADSL or DSL modem?
[06:05] <Seven_Six_Two> Haris, you can, yes. I've used the business card cd and pulled the rest from internet
[06:06] <the_dark_knight> when I create a upstart conf like http://www.bpaste.net/raw/XYsVmW0oavXHPS8VCzdM/ does this mean that sample.sh will always be up and running? please somebody help me with upstart! I am lost
[06:07] <aeon-ltd> the_dark_knight: what's in sample.sh?
[06:09] <the_dark_knight> aeon-ltd: maybe "cd /home/foo/  python sample.py" or some other command like "sleep 2"
[06:09] <aln> rootbrian: I think it is DHCP. see this please: http://up.download.ir/di-V9D3.png
[06:09] <ninjaaron> eh, If I was banned from the Ubuntu forums, am I banned here as well or what?
[06:10] <aeon-ltd> the_dark_knight: you could just test this, by running it then checking with top
[06:10] <wajeemba> wols: didn't work. I've got partitions left over from everywhere, so I'm just gonna clean wipe and install OS's again..
[06:11] <Seven_Six_Two> awesome. all this trouble because of poor epub formatting, and then the filesystem bailed and I lost the file. I found another copy on the internet, and the formatting is perfect. 2 hour waste of time.
[06:11] <wajeemba> Is there any big no-no to setting up my entire hard drive under a logical partition. I seem to enjoy creating ~8-10 partitions to play around with..
[06:11] <Haris> installing from CD is the last resort for me
[06:12] <Haris> the good option for me is network install
[06:12] <the_dark_knight> aeon-ltd: ok. hold on. after putting this sample.conf in $HOME/.init  do I need to restart something?
[06:12] <the_dark_knight> aeon-ltd: or should I directly put it in /etc/init/
[06:13] <Seven_Six_Two> wajeemba, the partition with your kernel has to be primary, iirc
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> i've no idea on how upstart works, but try in your home first
[06:13] <aln> rootbrian: phone line in connected to the modem directly.
[06:13] <Seven_Six_Two> wajeemba, the rest of the partitions you can do what you like.
[06:13] <deitarion> Seven_Six_Two: Are you sure? I thought, as long as GRUB was installed into the master MBR rather than the partition MBR, that requirement didn't apply.
[06:14] <Seven_Six_Two> deitarion, no, I'm not 100% sure.
[06:14] <wajeemba> Seven_Six_Two: hmm, ok. I'm assuming if that's the case, windows probably wouldn't like it either..
[06:14] <deitarion> I'm pretty sure Windows needs to boot from a primary partition.
[06:14] <rootbrian> aln: Did you configure the PPPoE settings correctly from within the modem itself?
[06:15] <andrewx> Anyone handy with Bash have a minute /msg me, thanks :)
[06:15] <wajeemba> Other question I have: should I be creating a separate partition for /boot, since I'm planning on triple booting Ubuntu/Win8/Arch
[06:16] <deitarion> wajeemba: Separate partition for /boot isn't really that useful anymore since most distros either put the recovery shell in initrd or give you a /boot that can't run on its own.
[06:16] <Seven_Six_Two> wajeemba, you don't have to.
[06:17] <keshav> nautious ??
[06:17] <keshav> nautilus ?
[06:17] <wajeemba> Seven_Six_Two, deitarion, yeah, seems like every distro wants it's own boot folder.. so my followup question is, where will the final resting place of grub be if I don't create a separate partition?
[06:18] <keshav> how to update grub help me plz
[06:18] <Haris> is the netboot iso different from the normal server iso for ubuntu ?
[06:19] <aln> rootbrian: In Windows it is working correctly
[06:19] <deitarion> wajeemba: You'll have the GRUB loader stub in the MBR and it'll reference whichever /boot installed it.
[06:19] <keshav> hello any indian here?
[06:20] <rootbrian> aln: I guess the manufacturer didn't intend it to work with Linux. I suggest getting a refund and going about the ADSL/DSL modem and router individually if possible, like i'm doing. It's less trouble.
[06:20] <wajeemba> deitarion: ok, I figured there must be a reference in the mbr. that will live within the first 512 bytes of the hard drive, and I won't have to worry about trying to save space for it in gparted? (seems to want to save 1MB by default)
[06:21] <rootbrian> aln: i'm thinking bridge is the only way it'll work.
[06:21] <Jordan_U> aln: Why do you want to connect via PPPoE?
[06:22] <deitarion> wajeemba: Give it the 1MB. It's one measly megabyte and it probably knows better than you do.
[06:22] <Seven_Six_Two> aln, are there settings in the device for vci/vpi
[06:22] <aln> Jordan_U: To share internet via my laptop or cellphone.
[06:23] <wajeemba> deitarion: oh, I fully plan on it. I'm just trying to connect my new knowledge to what I've seen going on previously. :)
[06:23] <aln> Seven_Six_Two: yes
[06:23] <Seven_Six_Two> did you verify that they are correct for your isp
[06:23] <Jordan_U> aln: By "via" do you mean "to"?
[06:23] <wols> wajeemba: will you run windows too?
[06:24] <wajeemba> wols: yes, win8
[06:24] <wols> wajeemba: if you run windows, make the windows partition primary. all the others can be extended partitions: linux doesn't care
[06:24] <aln> Jordan_U: "with". Sorry for my English.
[06:24] <deitarion> wajeemba: It should live within the boot sector. I believe the 1MiB left free is to compensate for idiosyncrasies in some OS/bootloader/hardware combination I'm not familiar with.
[06:24] <wols> wajeemba: install windows first. leave space for ubuntu and arch, then install them
[06:25] <The_BROS> How to move sent mails from thunderbird to Gmail sent folder?
[06:25] <wajeemba> wols: yeah, that's what I was planning for order. :)
[06:25] <Jordan_U> aln: Is it correct to say that you want to browse the internet on your cellphone, using the DSL modem to conenct rather than the cell's data plan?
[06:26] <wajeemba> wols: is it only possible to have 1 extended partition?
[06:26] <rootbrian> aln: If you intend to tether to your cellular phone, you'll need either a USB bluetooth dongle or the smartphone's Mobile Hotspot functionality and likely, a tethering or data option enabled.
[06:27] <wols> wajeemba: pretty much but with as many partitions inside as you want more or less
[06:27] <Jordan_U> wajeemba: No, but it rarely makes sense to have more than one.
[06:27] <wols> technically you could create 4 extended partitions i guess. but silly to do so
[06:27] <Seven_Six_Two> extended is container for logical
[06:28] <wajeemba> that's funny, because gparted doesn't look like it wants to make more than 1.. Don't think I'll need more than one tho, it would be more of a hassle to manage more..
[06:28] <Seven_Six_Two> no, I think you can have only 1
[06:28] <the_dark_knight> aeon-ltd: still no luck. please help me out here
[06:28] <Seven_Six_Two> <waves hand jedi-like>
[06:29] <aln> Jordan_U: Yes. I want to use internet in laptop and smartphone simultaneously.
[06:29] <Jordan_U> Seven_Six_Two: Any of your primary partition slots (even all of them) can be used as extended partitions. It just doesn't make much sense to do so as you lose flexibility and gain nothing.
[06:31] <stuart_> Does Ubuntu support desktop which you can interact with? Like have a box inside my desktop be a terminal
[06:32] <deitarion> stuart_: Could you rephrase that? I get the impression I'm misunderstanding what you're asking.
[06:32] <deitarion> Oh, wait. I see now.
[06:33] <stuart_> Like my desktop is just a picture, can programs like they are a part of my desktop
[06:33] <Seven_Six_Two> Jordan_U, wikipedia entry on mbr disagrees.   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning#PC_partition_types
[06:33] <deitarion> stuart_: Yeah. There are basically two ways you can do something like that.
[06:33] <rootbrian> aln: you'll likely have to use one or the other.
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Seven_Six_Two: I stand corrected then. Thanks.
[06:33] <deitarion> stuart_: The first (and most common) way is to set up a terminal which runs on login, has no borders, and is set to always stay below other windows and not appear in the taskbar.
[06:34] <rootbrian> aln: Under my impression, Mobile Hotspot works with up to five devices. Bluetooth, only one.
[06:34] <Seven_Six_Two> Jordan_U, np. I just learned that too
[06:34] <deitarion> stuart_: The second is to replace the program which draws the desktop with something else. (That's usually used for visual tricks like using a movie or a screensaver as your desktop wallpaper)
[06:34] <stuart_> deitarion: for the second one, what could I google to learn more about it?
[06:35] <deitarion> stuart_: Look into running applications in the root window.
[06:35] <aln> rootbrian: Thanks a lot  for your help
[06:35] <deitarion> stuart_: Give me a sec and I'll give you an example.
[06:35] <deitarion> stuart_: Also, what desktop are you running?
[06:35] <aln> Jordan_U: Thanks:)
[06:35] <aln> Seven_Six_Two: Thanks:)
[06:35] <stuart_> deitarion, gnome 3
[06:35] <sasuke> hi guys :)
[06:36] <deitarion> stuart_: Then you can't use the root window trick. Anything with a fancy, modern desktop handler draws the desktop as a big window covering the root window.
[06:36] <deitarion> (You can run stuff in the root window, but it'll be hidden by the desktop which covers it and can't be hijacked in that manner)
[06:37] <deitarion> However, there may be plugins for GNOME 3 to achieve a similar effect.
[06:37] <sasuke> suddenly my mouse is stop working, is there any service  or cmd to enable mouse again
[06:37] <stuart_> deitarion, what desktop did you have in mind? unity?
[06:37] <deitarion> sasuke: Did you try unplugging and replugging it?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> rootbrian: aln is *not* trying to teather.
[06:37] <sasuke> deitarion, its laptop mouse . i am not using any external one
[06:38] <deitarion> stuart_: Actually, I was thinking of something more like LXDE or Xfce where the panels and the desktop are drawn by separate programs and you can turn off the one that draws your desktop and drop in your own.
[06:38] <deitarion> sasuke: Ugh. I generally avoid laptops. Do you know enough keyboard shortcuts to run "xev" so we can see if it's still seeing your mouse clicks?
[06:39] <Jordan_U> aln: What you're trying to do, have multiple devices accessing the internet from the same router, is how routers come configured by default and should work perfectly fine. You do *not* want PPPoE or bridged mode though, as those both allow only one device to connect at a time (though I will admit I'm not very familiar with "bridged mode" and may be wrong there).
[06:40] <stuart_> deitarion, ok thanks, I will try and see if i can get gnome to do it
[06:40] <deitarion> Jordan_U: Bridged mode is for when you want to use your own router rather than the one built into the DSL/Cable modem.
[06:40] <deitarion> Jordan_U: Whether you can connect more than one PC in bridged mode without using your own router depends on whether you've bought extra public IP addresses from your ISP.
[06:41] <sasuke> deitarion, ya some shortcuts i know. now i am only using my keyboard. i want to restart mouse drives. i know there is some cmd, but i am not sure... so i need help :)
[06:42] <deitarion> sasuke: One thing you could try is using Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to the system console and then Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back into the GUI. That'll probably cause your X server to reset its drivers at least somewhat. (If Ctrl+Alt+F7 doesn't work, try other F keys since, on rare occasions, the X server ends up on a virtual console other than #7)
[06:44] <afidegnum> hello, pls can anyone assist me? I am having an 400 Bad Request      Request Header Or Cookie Too Large   error on my config
[06:44] <Jordan_U> deitarion: Ahh, that makes sense. Still, that does not seem to be what aln should be trying to use, and nor does PPPoE (considering that the modem and router are combined). I'm pretty sure that aln just wants the standard configuration of a home wireless access point and router using NAT and having the router itself handle the DSL connection (since the router and modem are on the same device).
[06:44] <Jordan_U> deitarion: We just need to figure out how to walk them through achieving that with their device :)
[06:44] <deitarion> Jordan_U: That depends on his ISP and how he's using PPPoE. I know my router+modem needs PPPoE configured because that's how my ISP talks to it.
[06:45] <rootbrian> aln: sorry if I got lost/got you lost. Just plugging the computer into the modem-router via the ethernet cable will work fine.
[06:45] <sasuke> deitarion, i got the answer from askubuntu.com, here is the command "sudo modprobe psmouse" . It works for me. Thanks for the info. have a nice day :)
[06:46] <wajeemba> for flexibility, I'm thinking of leaving a little unpartitioned space in the middle of my hard drive. That way I can give it to an operating system partition or my storage partition later just by a simple partition expansion. Is anything strange going to happen if I format this relatively massive extra space as swap ~20GB
[06:48] <deitarion> wajeemba: Can't help you there. I've never used that much swap space because I've got four hard drives and I split my swap space across them so I can configure load balancing and have out-of-memory thrashing a little more bearable when one of my dev builds starts leaking memory.
[06:49] <wajeemba> I mean, I figure why not mark it open if it's otherwise going to be unallocated..
[06:49] <wols> wajeemba: will be fine
[06:50] <wols> but you can't use unpartitioned space as swapspace
[06:50] <deitarion> wols: I believe he's asking whether there's any problem with making a 20GiB swap partition and then, at some point in the future, retiring it and re-partitioning.
[06:50] <wols> < wajeemba> for flexibility, I'm thinking of leaving a little unpartitioned space in the middle of my hard drive
[06:51] <deitarion> wols: Yes, that's the intent of the space, but I might phrase it that way too.
[06:51] <wajeemba> wols: right, I'd format it as swap, and then toss it later and make a smaller one to the side if I want more space on the neighboring partitions. Mostly just asking what's going to happen if I have a 20GiB swap file with daily use
[06:52] <deitarion> wols: Your interpretation is akin to insisting that nobody has more than 100MiB of RAM free on any Linux box because opportunistic disk caching means the memory isn't free in the strictest sense.
[06:52] <wols> deitarion: please stop
[06:52] <deitarion> wols: Already done.
[06:53] <aln> Jordan_U: Sorry. Please see this:http://www.techlineinfo.com/configuration-guide-of-adsl-wifi-modem-d-link-dsl-2730-u-for-bsnl-and-mtnl/
[06:54] <aln> Jordan_U:  PPPoE mode is essential to share the internet connection with multiple PCs, Laptops, Smart phones etc.
[06:54] <deitarion> wajeemba: Well, I can tell you that nothing out of the ordinary happened with 6 to 8 GiB of swap space in multiple 2GiB partitions.
[06:55] <deitarion> aln, Jordan_U: That looks right. Basically, in PPPoE mode, the device handles authenticating with your ISP. In bridged mode, it just translates DSL to ethernet so you can plug another router in down the line and let that second one do the PPPoE.
[06:56] <wajeemba> deitarion: I mean, if 20GB of swap gets written to during a normal session, that's fine. The space will fill up. It's really not going to affect the number of disk writes, It'll just spread them out over the 20 gb instead of a smaller space..
[06:56] <deitarion> wajeemba: ...yes? What was your question then?
[06:57] <wajeemba> deitation: just needed to say it out loud to think it thru I guess. didn't want to be causing more disk writes and speeding the failure of the disk..
[06:58] <aln> deitarion: Can you explain more?
[06:58] <deitarion> wajeemba: Ahh. Yeah, as long as it's a spinning platter disk, no harm. If it's an SSD, putting any swap on it is bad.
[06:58] <deitarion> aln: With DSL, you need to log into your ISP using a username and password. It used to be that the DSL modem was a separate device which you plugged your router into.
[06:59] <kristenbb_> hi, how to install my graphic card driver?
[06:59] <deitarion> aln: Now that they're on the same circuit board, there needs to be a way to turn the router part of the device off so you can use your own router if you have a better one. That's what bridged mode does.
[07:01] <kristenbb_> hello?
[07:01] <wajeemba> deitarion: good stuff. Off to install the windows I guess..
[07:02] <deitarion> aln: Basically, if you're not sure, want PPPoE mode 9 times out of 10.
[07:02] <deitarion> s/want/you want/
[07:03] <deitarion> aln: Think of "bridged mode" as the on-switch for a certain type of after-market add-on.
[07:04] <aln> deitarion: Is this only one solution? Are there any another solution?
[07:04] <kristenbb_> can someone please confirm that you're reading me?
[07:04] <faux> i see you
[07:04] <deitarion> kristenbb_: We tend to ignore random "hello?" lines while we wait for people to actually ask their question.
[07:05] <kristenbb_> deitarion: the question was right above, was it not printed on the irc server?
[07:05] <deitarion> aln: That question gives me the impression that you are really out of your depth. What, exactly, are you trying to do?
[07:05] <deitarion> kristenbb_: Oh, sorry. I didn't notice it.
[07:06] <deitarion> kristenbb_: You asked your question poorly. Give as much detail as possible in the initial question. At the very least, is it an ATi, nVidia, or Intel onboard graphics card or do you need help determining that?
[07:07]  * wajeemba leaves a tip
[07:07] <kristenbb_> I actually think I managed to make it work, by using a software called 'additional drivers'. It asks me to restart
[07:07] <kristenbb_> i'll be back
[07:08] <deitarion> aln: (I know you probably explained what you were trying to do, but I was very distracted at the time and it's awkward for me to check that far into a busy backlog with my current client)
[07:08] <jagginess> maybe john connor told him to say that
[07:11] <rootbrian> aln: if it's a wireless modem router, why don't you connect via wifi instead and let DHCP take care of it all?
[07:12] <rootbrian> aln: Press and hold the reset button until it reboots, release. this will reset it to the defaults, then enter the PPPoE information your internet service provider gave you, then apply the settings. Next, connect to it via wifi. That's all you need to do.
[07:12] <the_dark_knight> hi, I have one very important porblem related to upstart. My sample.conf and sample.sh are here http://www.bpaste.net/raw/chfJp8rB37ci5HKgbymF/. when i do sudo initctl emit sample, it hangs my computer. I have to restart it manually. please help. am i doing it right?
[07:12] <aln> rootbrian: With my desktop computer?
[07:13] <faux> reboot
[07:13] <faux> sorry, console in other window >.>
[07:13] <kristenbb> it's still me. it's actually worse than before. I now can't even log in, after the system boots, I get a window saying 'tthe system is running in low graphics mode. your screen, graphics card, and input device settings, could not be detected correctly, you need to configure them yourself'. what should i do   ?
[07:13] <fitgist> is there a copy command that gives MB/sec and progress bars in a shell?
[07:14] <rootbrian> aln: connect the desktop computer's Ethernet cable to either port numbered 1, 2, 3 or 4.
[07:15] <wols> kristenbb: what videocard do you have?
[07:15] <rootbrian> aln: also, before you do that, reset anything you changed via Edit Connections, or where you made the changes.
[07:15] <the_dark_knight> hi, I have one very important porblem related to upstart. My sample.conf and sample.sh are here http://www.bpaste.net/raw/chfJp8rB37ci5HKgbymF/. when i do sudo initctl emit sample, it hangs my computer. I have to restart it manually. please help. am i doing it right?
[07:15] <kristenbb> wols: nvidia
[07:16] <wols> kristenbb: be more precise
[07:16] <kristenbb> wols: nvidia  gtx 680
[07:16] <aln> rootbrian: Thanks a lot for your attention and for your help.
[07:16] <aln> rootbrian: :)
[07:16] <rootbrian> aln: your welcome.
[07:16] <rootbrian> aln: I was a newbie at one time. ;)
[07:16] <aln> rootbrian: :)
[07:17] <deitarion> rootbrian, aln: And my apologies for complicating things. I didn't think before I jumped in on the topic of PPPoE mode vs bridged mode.
[07:17] <deitarion> (I saw the one detail I did know and forgot to check the backlog to catch up on the rest of them)
[07:17] <wols> kristenbb: pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[07:17] <kristenbb> wols: how do you mean, I can't even log in. what should I do ?
[07:17] <aln> deitarion: Thanks:)
[07:18] <rootbrian> deitarion: no problem. I often get confused and mixed up.
[07:18] <jagginess> deitarion, you need to still use a script for the gui?
[07:19] <the_dark_knight> hey guys please help me on this. upstart
[07:19] <rootbrian> kristenbb: continue to run in low graphics mode, uninstall the nvidia drivers.
[07:19] <jagginess> the_dark_knight, there's a wiki and ubuntu help about upstart
[07:19] <deitarion> jagginess: Context, please?
[07:19] <jagginess> deitarion, something about 'composite'
[07:19] <jagginess> deitarion, a little while back..
[07:19] <rootbrian> kristenbb: Which NVIDIA driver are you using? The open source or the proprietary?
[07:20] <deitarion> jagginess: Oh, yeah. I've got this script I wrote which is sort of like DxDiag for Linux (it gathers debugging information to be attached to bug reports for games and other multimedia applications) and it doesn't yet check whether there's desktop compositing in effect.
[07:20] <jagginess> opensource == nv , proprietary == "nvidia"
[07:20] <deitarion> jagginess: Actually, opensource == "nv" or "nouveau"
[07:20] <kristenbb> rootbrian: I just tried installing the proprietary with the software called 'additional drivers'
[07:20] <jagginess> deitarion, um.. what are you trying to accomplish doing with the composite detail?
[07:21] <jagginess> deitarion, there's gui app helpers, like aRandr, and there's cli commands like xrandr, xdpyinfo
[07:21] <kristenbb> rootbrian: but I can't get to low graphics mode,  all I got was tty1, a console with no desktop
[07:21] <rootbrian> kristenbb: I suggest disabling the proprietary and going with the open source ones.
[07:21] <rootbrian> kristenbb: startx
[07:22] <rootbrian> kristenbb: type startx, hit enter.
[07:22] <kristenbb> rootbrian: it shows a blank screen
[07:22] <kristenbb> rootbrian: no unity
[07:22] <wols> kristenbb: ctrl+alt+f1 and you can log in
[07:22] <deitarion> jagginess: I'm already gathering output from xrandr and xdpyinfo (among others) but I couldn't see anything that says whether there's a compositor active.
[07:22] <deitarion> jagginess: Here's the script in question: https://gist.github.com/3759156
[07:22] <kristenbb> wols: i am logged in, but still no desktop
[07:23] <wols> kristenbb: when you are logged in you can pastebin the log file I requested. please do
[07:23] <rootbrian> kristenbb: if you logged in via the terminal where you're at, type startx and is there anything showing?
[07:23] <jagginess> deitarion, oh yeah.. one of the glxinfo commands can probably shoot out what you're looking for, try apropos glx
[07:23] <rootbrian> kristenbb: also, follow wols's directions
[07:24] <kristenbb> rootbrian: yes there is, just a blank sscreen
[07:24] <kristenbb> rootbrian: I mean, I can see the desktop, but no unity
[07:24] <kristenbb> wols: how can I pastebin without a desktop environment
[07:24] <jagginess> deitarion, but there's already gui apps that show this.. just a couple of apt-cache searches...
[07:24] <rootbrian> okay, press alt-f2 and then type in unity
[07:25] <deitarion> jagginess: I have no clue what to apt-cache search. I know there are apps like fusion-icon which show which WM is active, but I have yet to see one which checks whether compositing is enabled.
[07:25] <rootbrian> kristenbb: Alt-F2. Type in unity, hit enter.
[07:25] <kristenbb> rootbrian: alt f2 doesn't do anything
[07:25] <deitarion> (For example, KWin from KDE 4 can be toggled between composited like Compiz or un-composited like Openbox with a simple keypress)
[07:25] <rootbrian> kristenbb: Press ctrl-alt-f7 and see if anything shows
[07:26] <kristenbb> rootbrian: yes, some random text
[07:26] <kristenbb> rootbrian: the last line is 'mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth               [OK]'
[07:26] <rootbrian> kristenbb: Since we cannot see what's on the screen, I am going to suggest doing a reinstall.
[07:27] <kristenbb> rootbrian: a reinstall of what?
[07:27] <wols> !pastebin
[07:27] <rootbrian> kristenbb: The current version of ubuntu you're running.
[07:27] <wols> !pastebinit | kristenbb
[07:28] <kristenbb> rootbrian: that's nott convenient, I just lost a lot of time setting up my new system
[07:28] <vivid> W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to extras.ubuntu.com:http:
[07:28] <rootbrian> kristenbb: This is out of my reach. Sorry.
[07:29] <kristenbb> wols: which file do you want me to give you again? and where is it?
[07:29] <deitarion> jagginess: As far as things like xrandr, xdpyinfo, and glxinfo go, I'll probably have to just log into KDE 4, run `(xrandr -q -v ; xdpyinfo -queryExtensions -ext all; glxinfo -t -v -l) 2>&1 1>log.txt`, toggle compositing, log them again, and diff the logs to see if anything reliable shows up.
[07:29] <kristenbb> wols: I can't see anything starting with xorg or Xorg in my home.
[07:30] <wols> kristenbb: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:30] <jagginess> deitarion, there's arandrd or a<>randr that is a gui app .. i don't know if it shows other things
[07:31] <deitarion> jagginess: Probably not. I get the impression the XRANDR extension doesn't know or care about compositing
[07:31] <jagginess> deitarion, but ehm.. maybe you should ask in #xorg, they can point you to better resouces
[07:32] <deitarion> jagginess: Point. I'll try that if nothing shows up in the brute-force diffing of of the command outputs between KWin's composited and un-composited modes.
[07:32] <rommel092079> hello I am terribly new ubuntu i would like to ask how to install and or update software with ubuntu using commandline
[07:32] <deitarion> rommel092079: `sudo apt-get install name-of-package` or `sudo apt-get upgrade`
[07:33] <jagginess> deitarion, but it's kinda pointless what you're doing because people should not or don't ever toggle their live window managers..
[07:33] <vivid> rommel092079, and 'sudo apt-get update' to update the package cache
[07:33] <deitarion> jagginess: I think you misunderstand somehow. The reason I'm toggling is because it minimizes the number of things that differ between "with compositing" and "without compositing".
[07:34] <wastrel> what are we toggling
[07:34] <deitarion> wastrel: I'm trying to find a WM-agnostic way to detect compositing and I'll be testing by using KDE 4, where you can turn compositing on and off with a single keyboard shortcut.
[07:35] <jagginess> deitarion, but either the window manager should be set to it or not.. i think it's not very well supported for the libraries to allow toggling to be securely done without having windows cropped up
[07:35] <jagginess> deitarion, ^
[07:35] <deitarion> jagginess: You really don't get what i'm talking about. The toggling is just an artifact of my test procedure.
[07:36] <rommel092079> i am usig centos right now and i have issues with their packages. some are installed with yum and some with using rpm.  is ubuntu done somewhat this way too or just with apt-get?
[07:36] <jagginess> rommel092079, #centos (you're in #ubuntu :)
[07:36] <jagginess> rommel092079, not the same thing
[07:36] <jagginess> ubuntu==dpkg/apt-get/aptitude , synaptic
[07:36] <vivid> rommel092079, its a similar situation, yum is equivalent to apt-get, while rpm is equivalent to dpkg
[07:36] <the_dark_knight> hey guys please help me out on the upstart
[07:37] <the_dark_knight> hi, I have one very important porblem related to upstart. My sample.conf and sample.sh are here http://www.bpaste.net/raw/chfJp8rB37ci5HKgbymF/. when i do sudo initctl emit sample, it hangs my computer. I have to restart it manually. please help. am i doing it right?
[07:37] <deitarion> jagginess: The whole point of this exercise is so a script can detect whether the desktop is composited without recognizing the WM by name and saying "Oh, Compiz! That's composited" or "Oh, KWin! I need to use <name of command> to check for compositing"
[07:37] <wols> rommel092079: yum is a rpm front end and doesn't install anything. apt-get gets the packages and does conflict resolution while all packages are installed via dpkg
[07:37] <jagginess> deitarion, i dont think there's a standard API for window managers to report if they're using a compositing feature..
[07:38] <wols> deitarion: you can't do this, cause the fact that it uses compositing is WM internal. all you can do is check for compositing support from the server
[07:38] <deitarion> jagginess: But there's probably a standard API for the X server to tell me that some WM has activated the rendering redirects inherent in compositing.
[07:38] <rommel092079> is there ever an instance where you will be needing to install using other than apt-get?
[07:38] <jagginess> deitarion, unless you can query some class trees like you can with old X intrisic classtrees
[07:39] <wols> rommel092079: depends what you do,but yes there is. but you can then uninstall this package via apt-get again if you want to
[07:39] <jagginess> deitarion, probably this might be another avenue, but other than that you'll have to probe it
[07:40] <jagginess> deitarion, again you should ask a higher level group on the subject.. but I do know you won't get an answer about scripting solutions
[07:40] <sandGorgon> hi guys - I'm now storing my ssh keys in a new location in /etc . how do I get selinux to allow sshd permission to read it ?
[07:40] <deitarion> jagginess: We shall see. I suspect that, whether it's glxinfo or xdpyinfo or some other such utility, if I set it verbose enough and query the right X extension, I'll find some indicator I can awk out and use.
[07:41] <jagginess> deitarion, you can probably script probing gnome classes, you'll have to find the right tools for scripting this, but the dev's at #xorg would point you to glx/xorg docs
[07:41] <jagginess> deitarion, not talking strictly on xdypinfo, but some other miscellaneous helper tool in the repos
[07:42] <rommel092079> what packages are installed with apt-get and dkpg?
[07:42] <jagginess> deitarion, (you can keep digging like -> apt-cache search glx ) dunno what grep can be used.. but there's always something
[07:42] <cloudgeek> guys for svn any hosting free like assemla!
[07:42] <wols> rommel092079: all
[07:42] <deitarion> jagginess: *nod* I'll drop into #xorg now and ask since it'll probably be low-effort.
[07:43] <rommel092079> wols: can you give me example on how to use dkpg to start with
[07:43] <jagginess> deitarion, what are you going to use with your script, xdialog? a misc tool like xdialog for the purpose you're looking for.. there's tools for scripting all sorts of stuff (and doubt #xorg can help you on this because you're not doing C)
[07:43] <somsip> cloudgeek: why not assembla? Free for no-frills isn't it?
[07:44] <wols> rommel092079: to do what?
[07:44] <cloudgeek> somsip: nope it's only free for 30 dyas
[07:44] <rommel092079> to install / update
[07:44] <cloudgeek> days
[07:44] <deitarion> jagginess: No gui whatsoever. It generates a debug dump to be attached to a bug report.
[07:45] <jagginess> deitarion, well there's also dmidecode that's sort a structured output
[07:45] <wols> cloudgeek: sourceforge
[07:45] <cloudgeek> best hosting for svn for private!
[07:45] <wols> or you use github
[07:45] <cloudgeek> wols: let me checkout sourceforge
[07:45] <deitarion> jagginess: Structured isn't necessarily a problem but it also requires root.
[07:45] <cloudgeek> wols: let me check if github gives free hosting for svn
[07:46] <somsip> cloudgeek: limited if you setup a team account for a trial period. Free for single users
[07:47] <somsip> cloudgeek: oh - maybe because i'm already signed in. Oh well
[07:47] <cloudgeek> somsip: we are 3 guys , we are working on the app deveopment, using svn which is best solution for us
[07:47] <jagginess> cloudgeek, I heard Linus Torvalds made git
[07:47] <somsip> cloudgeek: ok - see you need team collaboration. fair enough
[07:48] <jagginess> somsip, he, himself and hehe
[07:48] <cloudgeek> jagginess: but i am using java , but for most things i use git only
[07:48] <jagginess> cloudgeek, well apache.org has stuff, maybe ant (there's probably ant-addon capability for the eclipse IDE)
[07:49] <cloudgeek> somsip: ya we working for an NGO app ,that will be free
[07:49] <jagginess> cloudgeek, (eclipse and ant are tools for java development)
[07:49] <cloudgeek> jagginess: yep i using them
[07:49] <cloudgeek> jagginess: but how we can share and commit out code
[07:49] <jagginess> cloudgeek, "ant" ?
[07:49] <cloudgeek> our code
[07:50] <cloudgeek> jagginess: okay
[07:50] <jagginess> cloudgeek, dunno, maybe there's a git plugin for eclipse
[07:50] <the_dark_knight> hi, I have one very important porblem related to upstart. My sample.conf and sample.sh are here http://www.bpaste.net/raw/chfJp8rB37ci5HKgbymF/. when i do sudo initctl emit sample, it hangs my computer. I have to restart it manually. please help. am i doing it right?
[07:50] <kristenbb> wols: are you still there?
[07:51] <wols> yes
[07:51] <jagginess> the_dark_knight, what is that for? you'll definitely be safer using a crontab job for a user
[07:51] <kristenbb> wols: I managed to start unity using xinit
[07:51] <deitarion> There is a git plugin for eclipse. one sec.
[07:51] <jagginess> duh, i already told him
[07:52] <jagginess> that's his homework :)
[07:52] <deitarion> s/There is/There IS/ (I'm responding to your "maybe"
[07:52] <kristenbb> wols: the file you request can be found here: pastebin.com/4EMgfGGi
[07:52] <deitarion> )
[07:52] <jagginess> i dont think he wasn't listening to me.. but he knows better what he wants to do exactly.. :) lol
[07:53] <somsip> cloudgeek: you say git is okay for you? https://bitbucket.org/
[07:53] <deitarion> Given that I suspect that's true, probably better to give him the "for skeptical noobs"-designed GitHub page on the topic rather than the mess of old solutions in search results.
[07:54] <sandGorgon> hi guys - I'm now storing my ssh keys in a new location in /etc . how do I get selinux to allow sshd permission to read it ?
[07:54] <deitarion> http://eclipse.github.com/
[07:54] <jagginess> sandGorgon, if you enabled selinux, you need to reboot it, and update the selabel across the / drive
[07:54] <the_dark_knight> jagginess: but with cron I'll have to restart it for like per min. I want my process sample.py to be always up and running. you get the point? should I be doing initctl start sample. right?
[07:55] <jagginess> the_dark_knight, do you know what cron is? It sure doesn't sound like you do. You can specify repeats with cron
[07:55] <wols> kristenbb: have you connected your monitor via hdmi cable? if you specify the res manually in xorg.conf (run nvidia-settings) it should work
[07:56] <wols> the_dark_knight: then start it as a user's script. not upstart
[07:56] <kristenbb> wols: i don't understand what you're talking about regarding "res manually", sorry. But yes it's a hdmi cable.
[07:56] <jagginess> cron can allow user task jobs...
[07:57] <wols> kristenbb: display resolution.
[07:57] <kristenbb> wols: so what am I to do exactly ?
[07:57] <niklasharju> How  can I get 120hz, anybody know?
[07:57] <the_dark_knight> jagginess: from what I know and have used , cron will schedule some jobs periodically. say do run sample.sh everyday at 11AM, like that. But with upstart I want sample.py to run always. Even when it gets aborted for some reason i want it to restart it again.
[07:57] <jagginess> kristenbb, look in the menu for arandr or use xrandr in the cli
[07:57] <the_dark_knight> wols: I am not getting  it.
[07:57] <wols> jagginess: have you looked at his xorg log?
[07:57] <kristenbb> jagginess: what??
[07:58] <wols> the_dark_knight: what you want to do, upstart is the wrong place
[07:58] <kristenbb> jagginess: what's a 'arandr', 'xrandr', 'cli' ?
[07:58] <jagginess> kristenbb, arandr is a gui frontend for xrandr, xrandr/arandr do the same thing-- change screen res
[07:58] <the_dark_knight> wols: so what should I do then?
[07:58] <wols> the_dark_knight: do a cronjob which check if your script is already running. if it's not, make the cronjob start it. let the cronjob do this every 5 minutes
[07:58] <the_dark_knight> wols: I don't think cron is the option?
[07:59] <kristenbb> jagginess: I still don't understand what I should do
[07:59] <the_dark_knight> wols: i can't afford to stop for 1 min.
[07:59] <jagginess> kristenbb, look with your package manager for 'randr', see if there's a<>randr and install that, it would be in the menu somewhere..once you install that, you do the click click from the menu
[07:59] <wols> the_dark_knight: then why is your script stopping in the first place?
[08:00] <the_dark_knight> wols: which script?
[08:00] <jagginess> the_dark_knight, the python one
[08:00] <jagginess> lol
[08:00] <wols> the_dark_knight: your python script you talk about?
[08:00] <kristenbb> jagginess: you mean I should install a new software just to change my screen resolution? I'm sorry, I don't understand.
[08:01] <the_dark_knight> wols: jagginess, suppose if gearmand stops. it will stop. sample.py is nothing but a gearman worker.
[08:01] <thejoker> gearman worker? wtf is that? lol
[08:01] <thejoker> hahhhahahhaa
[08:01] <niklasharju> How can I get 120hz, anybody know?
[08:02] <somsip> the_dark_knight: so you want something to monitor gearman and restart iot if it stops?
[08:02] <jagginess> mN-, driver and monitor have to support it.
[08:02] <jagginess> mN-, if you using cheap fallback driver, you won't get high hertz
[08:02] <the_dark_knight> somsip: yes
[08:03] <mN-> jagginess: yea it does, i can only raise it to 100hz however through nvidia, but in win7 i can get the full 120hz
[08:03] <jagginess> mN-, how big is your screen?
[08:03] <wols> the_dark_knight: then start gearman inside a script which immediately starts it again if it stops for whatever reason
[08:03] <whitman> Is extras.ubuntu.com down?
[08:03] <wols> the_dark_knight: same would apply to your python script, et
[08:03] <the_dark_knight> somsip: I want some of my gearman workers to be allways running. they should restart after reboot, also if fail/abort they should restart on their own
[08:03] <wols> *etc
[08:03] <mN-> jagginess: hmm i think it's 23inches
[08:03] <mN-> jagginess:  1680x1050
[08:03] <wols> whitman: it's a normal web/ftp server. why don't you check for yourself?
[08:04] <jagginess> mN-, you using "nv" or "nvidia", maybe you should try the "nvidia" driver
[08:04] <the_dark_knight> wols: I am sorry. I don't understand the "inside a script which immediately starts it again if it stops " part
[08:04] <the_dark_knight> wols: Do you mean use upstart for this.
[08:04] <whitman> wols, I have, I can't connect but it could be a localised issue rather than being unavailable for everyone
[08:05] <wols> the_dark_knight: while (1) do: run gearman;
[08:05] <jagginess> the_dark_knight, i think cron may be able to do that.. to restart a task if it dies out prematurely
[08:05] <wols> whitman: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[08:05] <wols> jagginess: no it won't
[08:05] <mN-> jagginess:  im using NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (prop. ,tested)
[08:05] <jagginess> whitman, hey you know that book you wrote, 'leaves of grass', the poems don't rhyme.. it's quite a shame
[08:06] <jagginess> mN- tried the nvidia-settings gui tweaker?
[08:06] <mN-> jagginess:  what was the command?
[08:06] <jagginess> mN- and ask it to save a .nvidia<> in ~ .. if you can get a 120Hz with the tool, you can script nvidia-settings to auto-apply ~/.nvidia<>ttings
[08:07] <jagginess> mN- , nvidia-settings
[08:07] <jagginess> mN- , or use nvidia-<tab><tab>
[08:07] <jagginess> mN- , it probably is in the menu
[08:07] <mN-> jagginess:  yea i was able to get 100hz from there instead of the 60hz
[08:07] <mN-> jagginess:  but not 120hz
[08:08] <jagginess> mN-, see if there are edid errors, maybe you have a long cable that isnt very good
[08:08] <jagginess> mN-, (/var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:08] <jagginess> )
[08:08] <the_dark_knight> wols: jagginess, I can solve it by cron but I don't like the option of monitoring at least per minute.
[08:08] <kristenbb> Can someone please help me regarding my issue with the nvidia driver ? The system fails to boot properly, and says 'the system is running in low graphics mode. your screen, graphics card, and input device settings, could not be detected correctly, you need to configure them yourself'
[08:09] <jagginess> the_dark_knight, well you can show your #python script and people may suggest the best way to overcome and premature freeze/etc..
[08:09] <jagginess> the_dark_knight, if it's a buggy script then you'd expect it to be very problematic with anything starting it
[08:10] <wols> the_dark_knight: I just gave you pseudocode above
[08:11] <polp> MBR problem while installing OS .Plz Help me !
[08:11] <jagginess> polp, pop in boot-repair iso , it'll work after click click
[08:11] <jagginess> pop it
[08:11] <jagginess> pop it
[08:11] <the_dark_knight> jagginess: do you know anything about respawn. there has to be a way other than cron. I mean mysqld is like what I wanted.
[08:11] <the_dark_knight> wols: which pseudocode?
[08:11] <mN-> jagginess:  there are but more like warning regarding my usb keyboard and mouse
[08:12] <polp> jagginess: ? , plz explain it clearly
[08:12] <jagginess> mN-, do you get anything saying 120Hz detected?
[08:12] <savio> is extras.ubuntu.com is down ?
[08:12] <jagginess> polp, google "boot-repair iso" download that iso from sourceforge and boot with it.. it's very easy to use
[08:12] <jagginess> polp, you know how to burn an .iso right?
[08:13] <juniour> hi
[08:13] <kristenbb> Can someone please help me regarding my issue with the nvidia driver ? The system fails to boot properly, and says 'the system is running in low graphics mode. your screen, graphics card, and input device settings, could not be detected correctly, you need to configure them yourself'
[08:13] <irong33k> i have problem with ubuntu 12.10
[08:13] <wols> jagginess: his MBR problems are with windows 7, with ubuntu he has "can't read from CD" issues
[08:13] <polp> jagginess:  ok !
[08:13] <wols> kristenbb: nvidia-settings
[08:13] <jagginess> oh well that boot-repair has been said it can fix windows problems too, but i never did use it for that
[08:14] <kristenbb> wols: yes?
[08:14] <jagginess> polp, maybe your cd drive is poop .. it's easy to make a usb ubuntu-installer with pendrive's usb universal maker
[08:14] <wols> kristenbb: run it
[08:14] <kristenbb> wols: done
[08:14] <wols> polp: did you check your CD integrity as I told you?
[08:14] <polp> jagginess: can i use LIVE USB ubuntu , to solve MBR problem
[08:15] <polp> wols:  yup ! but it don'r work
[08:15] <wols> !doesn't work | polp
[08:15] <jagginess> polp, if you can do usb-boot, you can use pendrive's usb maker for the boot-repair iso probably.. (i'll check)
[08:15] <cuore_> hey .. it's my my third day . in linux ! is there any channel for newbies ? :p
[08:16] <wols> cuore_: not a particular one. but we're happy to help with any ubuntu problems. there is also ##linux
[08:16] <jagginess> polp, there's an option of 'Try unlisted iso' with pendrive usb maker..
[08:16] <kristenbb> wols: so I did open it, but what am I to do with it?
[08:17] <wols> kristenbb: I won't hand hold and force feed
[08:17] <polp> wols:  actually , while working on fedora , i accidently copied my MBR on my fedora using dd command
[08:17] <savio> apt-get update fails
[08:17] <jagginess> polp, the ubuntu-live may have the boot-repair app contained in it.. dunno
[08:17] <wols> kristenbb: if you are unable to use a GUI program, you need to take a beginners course at your local community college
[08:17] <kristenbb> wols: I'm sorry I have a ubuntu problem, my system doesn't start, and I have no idea how to fix it, it's why I come here for help, I have no idea what to do?
[08:17] <savio> it says extras.ubuntu.com connection fail
[08:17] <polp> jagginess: d'nt worry jagginess  , i will try boot it
[08:18] <jagginess> polp, but why use a tool that's not safe? next time use boot-repair :)
[08:18] <the_dark_knight> wols: jagginess, somsip , what is wrong with this script http://www.bpaste.net/raw/I31h8yLK629ioNwgJ8ge/  . When I do start sample it gives " Unknown job error"
[08:18] <jagginess> polp, you sure there's a problem with either the drive or cd?
[08:18] <somsip> the_dark_knight: don't ask me.
[08:18] <kristenbb> wols: but why am I to do to make it work ? I don't know what to do, my system is broken.
[08:19] <polp> jagginess: i think  with hard disk , while installing OS using live USB ,MBR  Error : can't find where am i now
[08:20] <jagginess> the_dark_knight, i think it's more than that.. http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/
[08:20] <savio> here is past http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322876/
[08:20] <savio> apt-get update fails
[08:20] <cuore_> wols: thX .. and my first prb : i'm using ubuntu classic mode 11.04 with compiz .so if  i upgrade to 11.10 will i lose the compiz config ,.if not:will it work fine with ubuntu11.10?
[08:21] <crizis> compizconfig does work with 11.10
[08:21] <mN-> jagginess: do you think i can change refresh rate from " gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf " somehow
[08:21] <somsip> savio: looks like the site is down or your connection dropped. Can you access http://extras.ubuntu.com in a browser?
[08:21] <crizis> however, 11.10 migrates to gnome3.. and you should be better off upgrading straight to 12.04 at least :)
[08:21] <wols> savio: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/extras.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <polp> cuore_: while upgrade , it'll simultaneously upgrade all packages including compiz .Don't worry .But i'm not sure which Desktop environment are you using .
[08:22] <savio> wols, somsip try to update apt-get
[08:23] <somsip> savio: the repo is down
[08:23] <polp> cuore_: in gnome 3 , compiz effect don't work .only support gnome 2 and unity
[08:23] <kristenbb> my problem is still not solved :(
[08:23] <savio> somsip, must be some stupid company hosting it
[08:24] <cuore_> polp: i'm in gnome 2
[08:24] <polp> wols: cuore_  so , go on . Ahha !
[08:24] <ServerSage> Hey folks, I have a mac mini with 12.04.  I use pm-suspend to put the little guy to sleep, and I would like to be able to wake him up with the remote.  I've set /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb*/power/wakeup to enabled.  No go.  Can anybody point me in the right direction?
[08:24] <jagginess> mN-, if you don't see 120Hz in the X log, you will never be able to get it
[08:25] <jagginess> mN-, pastebin your x log.. maybe it's there..
[08:25] <kristenbb> Can someone please help me regarding my issue with the nvidia driver ? The system fails to boot properly, and says 'the system is running in low graphics mode. your screen, graphics card, and input device settings, could not be detected correctly, you need to configure them yourself'
[08:25] <cuore_> crizis: polp : the update-manager indcate that i can upgrade to 11.1 not 12.04
[08:26] <crizis> well, yes, you gotta upgrade to 11.10 first.
[08:26] <jagginess> kristenbb, make sure kms is not disabled (if you didnt then see if the x log says nvidia driver is failing to load)
[08:26] <crizis> you can only skip versions when upgrading if you upgrade from lts to lts
[08:26] <wols> cuore_: correct. you can only update to the next ubuntu version or lts version and never skip versions in between
[08:26] <savio> !dkms
[08:27] <kristenbb> jagginess: I don't know how to interpret the x log, but I pastebined it. I don't know what 'kms' is.
[08:27] <cuore_> crizis: wols  thx guys  .. :)
[08:27] <polp> cuore_: well, i big suggestion from my side .Some time even if you upgrade , your compiz will not working correctly according to hardware .So, try to install fresh OS
[08:27] <Harry_123> hello
[08:28] <HieLo> hiii
[08:28] <Harry_123> route add default ???
[08:29] <cuore_> polp: what d u mean " fresh OS " ?
[08:29] <jagginess> Harry_123, you on the road with jack?
[08:29] <jagginess> cuore_, i think he means debian (*ouch)
[08:29] <polp> polp: ubuntu 12.10 OS
[08:30] <Harry_123> who jack?
[08:30] <jagginess> Harry_123, the song, hit the road jack,, as in route <> :)
[08:30] <jagginess> Harry_123, route add default "sing Hit the road jack"
[08:30] <savio> will dkms package solve recompling of vmware when kernel update
[08:31] <polp> jagginess: cuore_ : fresh OS means new .iso (to which you want to upgrade)
[08:31] <wols> savio: yes, that's what it does. if your VMWAre is DKMS aware
[08:31] <Harry_123> I want to add a single machine routing
[08:32] <jagginess> polp, are you using a live-linux?
[08:32] <Harry_123> 192.168.1.224 to ppp0. Vpn interface
[08:33] <mN-> jagginess:  here it is: http://pastebin.com/RUBBVhh4
[08:33] <kristenbb> Can someone please give me real help rather than incomprehensible tech words ? I am a total linux newbie and I just installed my system and I want my graphic card to work, and it doesn't.
[08:34] <wols> kristenbb: with your approach this won't ever work
[08:34] <Harry_123> clear
[08:34] <Harry_123> #clear
[08:34] <kristenbb> wols: with what approach?
[08:35] <jagginess> mN-, doesn't this look wrong "(--) RandR disabled" ? (can you post your xorg.conf too if you're using one?)
[08:35] <mN-> yeah ill post it
[08:35] <kristenbb> wols: I am lost, you told me to open a software but then didn't tell me what to do with it.
[08:35] <juniour> hi
[08:35] <juniour> hi
[08:35] <Harry_123> CLEAR
[08:35] <somsip> kristenbb: so let's try this...when you say the systems fails to boot properly, can you explain
[08:36] <jagginess> mN-, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |xclip   , mid-mouse button pastes (can use pastebin if you want to do the whole thing)
[08:36] <wols> kristenbb: if you don't have any initiative of your own, it's the equivalent of a toddler sittind down, crying for mommy to force feed him. this won't work. if you don't want to act yourself, bring your comptuer to some expert and let them fix it for you
[08:36] <kristenbb> somsip: yes, sure. I mean that it does boot, but at one point it stops loading (the login screen doesn't appear), and instead a window appears and says:
[08:36] <gin-0range> gin-Orange
[08:37] <somsip> what version of ubuntu and what video card?
[08:37] <kristenbb> somsip: 'the system is running in low graphics mode. your screen, graphics card, and input device settings, could not be detected correctly, you need to configure them yourself'
[08:37] <jagginess> mN-, cat /etc/X11/xorg.org |xclip (and midmouse button pastes-- dont paste in here please)
[08:37] <djjeff> is it possible to get windows xp like blue scrollbars in ubuntu 12 using gtk3
[08:37] <wols> kristenbb: clicking on a GUI with a mouse is doesn't need an expert, doe sit?
[08:37] <somsip> kristenbb: what version of ubuntu and what video card?
[08:37] <jagginess> mN-, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |xclip (and midmouse button pastes-- dont paste in here please)
[08:37] <jagginess> mN-, (sudo apt-get install xclip  , if you wish)
[08:37] <kristenbb> somsip: the version is 12.04 and the video card is nvidia gtx 680
[08:38] <polp> jagginess: yes
[08:38] <somsip> kristenbb: is this a new install or did you make some changes to an existing install that broke something?
[08:39] <kristenbb> somsip: it's a new install, but I did try something to be able to take advantage of my video card. I went to the dash and typed 'additional drivers', and installed the first one (proprietary driver)
[08:39] <kristenbb> somsip: and after rebooting, that's when it stopped working
[08:39] <jagginess> mN-, comment out the horiz and vertrefresh lines, as well as line 57 and 58.. (use # at start of those 4 lines )
[08:40] <jagginess> mN-, we can try to use wide desktop setting later
[08:40] <mN-> ok
[08:41] <Ampersand> Hi everyone. I have a quick question: I've recently upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and in the Software Sources preferences in the "Other Software" tab i have 3 disabled checkboxes with the mention "disabled on upgrade to quantal". My question is if this means that BEFORE the upgrade, they were enabled?
[08:42] <somsip> kristenbb: kristenbb this seems to be a comon issue and a number of solutions are given here. Have you tried any of these? http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[08:42] <mN-> jagginess:  what then? i wrote " # option "ster..."
[08:42] <bazhang> Ampersand, correct. probably PPA
[08:42] <lapion> from 12.04 on bluetooth is not being handled correctly
[08:42] <Jordan_U> Ampersand: Yes, third party repositories are always disabled as one of the first steps in upgrading.
[08:43] <Ampersand> and it's safe to re-enable them then?
[08:43] <Ampersand> yes, they're all PPAs (launchpad and dropbox)
[08:43] <ix_> can I install ubuntu from minimal iso on a pppoe connection?
[08:43] <jagginess> yeah.. disable the ppa's when upgrading.. you can rename the .list to a .list_dis
[08:43] <bazhang> Ampersand, check if there are PPA builds for 12.10
[08:43] <jagginess> (in the sources.d folder)
[08:43] <lapion> whenever I suspend/hibernate resume the bluetooth devices cannot reconnect
[08:43] <bazhang> jagginess, they are automatically disabled on version upgrade, so no need
[08:44] <Ampersand> sorry, could you tell me how to do that (check for PPA builds for 12.10) ?
[08:44] <bazhang> jagginess, did you mean sources.list.d ?
[08:44] <jagginess> bazhang, i dunno, i spent 3 hours a few days ago doing things like this.. you talking about upgrading from cd?
[08:44] <bazhang> Ampersand, just go to the PPA search page on launchpad
[08:44] <kristenbb> somsip: no I didn't. Am I to take the first answer ? It mentions it's only a 'workaround' but doesn't really solve the problem, is this my best option?
[08:45] <bazhang> jagginess, any upgrade will disable the PPA.
[08:45] <jagginess> bazhang, the upgrade failed upgrade.d (full instruction was followed, so i had to manually upgrade..)
[08:45] <kristenbb> somsip: and what is the problem anyway, why is it that installing a new driver would break the unity greeter?
[08:45] <somsip> kristenbb: reas through it and look for a solution that seems to fit with your particular problem. Some mention ATI video cards. These clearly do not apply to you. I see nothing in there that will break anything, and it's likely you will learn something in the process of working throguh these to see what works
[08:46] <lapion> the only way to solve it is to reboot or to restart X
[08:46] <bazhang> Ampersand, the easiest way is to look at the PPA name, then search that name/that package/PPA in a search engine to bring you to the page
[08:46] <Ampersand> I'm on the launchpad.net site right now. I have to search in the searchbox "private-ppa" ?
[08:46] <somsip> kristenbb: thuogh you could just reinstall nvidia-current, just in case that's an easy fix too
[08:47] <Ampersand> I'm not sure on what the name is
[08:47] <Ampersand> private-ppa.launchpad.net/comm
[08:47] <jagginess> mN-, i use 12.10, use ctl-alt-Fn
[08:47] <bazhang> Ampersand, or simply look at software sources and check the PPA name there.
[08:48] <Ampersand> ah, I see, ok, I'll do that, thank you
[08:48] <ix_> can I install ubuntu from minimal iso on a pppoe connection?
[08:48] <kristenbb> somsip: how can I do that?
[08:49] <sdfdafadfsadad> hello all
[08:49] <sdfdafadfsadad> i installed ubuntu along side with windows 7
[08:49] <kristenbb> somsip: I actually managed to get to unity using xinit. But if I try to install another driven, it says permission denied
[08:49] <sdfdafadfsadad> but everytime when i log on pc
[08:49] <sdfdafadfsadad> i cant get any option to
[08:49] <sdfdafadfsadad> boot ubuntu
[08:49] <somsip> kristenbb: in a terminal, sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-current
[08:49] <sdfdafadfsadad> everytime
[08:49] <sdfdafadfsadad> windows opening
[08:49] <sdfdafadfsadad> whats wrong with me?
[08:49] <FloodBot1> sdfdafadfsadad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:49] <jagginess> mN-, yeah
[08:50] <Ampersand> and I have one more Q abouit the PPAs: is any PPA that's listed on the launchpad site safe? I mean, I do read a lot of articles on various websites, recommending to install various software from PPAs, but to check if they're indeed safe, it's enough that they're listed on launchpad that being an indication that it's safe?
[08:50] <sdfdafadfsadad> can anyone help me?
[08:50] <somsip> !PPA | Ampersand
[08:51] <Ampersand> an, I see... so, to ensure 100% safety, no PPAs should be used ;))
[08:51] <somsip> Ampersand: that's the official line
[08:51] <Ampersand> I see
[08:51] <Ampersand> ok, thanks a lot for your help
[08:52] <kristenbb> somsip: I tried reinstalling it, and rebooted, the error is still the same
[08:53] <somsip> kristenbb: and...? What will you do next?
[08:53] <magn3ts> Why does GTK3 think that it is above xmodmap?
[08:53] <magn3ts>  /scowl
[08:54] <kristenbb> somsip: well i don't know? I think it's interesting to try to install another driver, but it says i don't have the rights. How can I change that?
[08:54] <somsip> kristenbb: you could try doning what I suggested and looking at the webpage I found for you. If you want to install drivers, use sudo apt-get in a terminal
[08:55] <kristenbb> somsip: sudo apt-get followed by what? I wanted to use the gui called 'additionnal drivers', but I can't change the 'current version' that is selected
[08:56] <somsip> kristenbb: no idea. I don't use that
[08:56] <ak5> can someone tell me how upstart compares to systemd and/or link me to some nice docs?
[08:56] <somsip> kristenbb: sudo apt-get install {driver} if you want to do it the CLI way
[08:56] <kristenbb> somsip: {driver} being the driver's name, right? but how to know its name?
[08:57] <somsip> kristenbb: you said you wanted to install something. You must know the  something you want to install
[08:59] <kristenbb> somsip: no, not its exact name, I just said maybe it was worth a try to install other drivers, given that this one doesn't seem to work. But i don't know the other drivers names
[08:59] <Kartagis> I installed xen, and booted into xen kernel. however when I want to go back to the other kernel, it says "/bin/sh: libc6.so: no such file file or directory" or such. how do I fix that?
[09:00] <somsip> kristenbb: then maybe follow some instructions from other people who have solved this. On the website. That I gave you before. "Maybe"s are all well and good, but you've admitted you're a novice. Why not try some possible fixes from people who have BTDT
[09:01] <mN-> How to get 120hz in ubuntu?
[09:02] <kristenbb> somsip: because they themself said it was not a solution, just a workaround, so I wanted to try it last..
[09:02] <kristenbb> somsip: but ok i'll try it
[09:02] <williamherry> ubuntu one is very slow, is there any log or some that I can find what's ubuntu one going on?
[09:03] <somsip> kristenbb: you read one fix. Look at the others.
[09:04] <mN-> How to get 120hz in ubuntu?
[09:04] <kristenbb> somsip: which one? none was selected has being the answer  to the question, and I don't want to break it even more...
[09:05] <kristenbb> somsip: should I try the second solution then?
[09:05] <somsip> kristenbb: And that's me done. Good luck
[09:06] <Iceman_B> hoy
[09:07] <Iceman_B> How can I configure dhclient to keep requesting a lease until the end of time, on a reboot?
[09:08] <kristenbb> somsip: this linux thing is not easy, there are not these problems with Windows. i am trying really hard to fix it, but I'm not as good as you, sorry.
[09:08] <kristenbb> thanks for trying anyway
[09:08] <Kartagis> I installed xen, and booted into xen kernel. however when I want to go back to the other kernel, it says "/bin/sh: libc6.so: no such file file or directory" or such. how do I fix that?
[09:10] <ikonia> Kartagis: sounds like you did more than install the xen kernel
[09:10] <ikonia> sounds like a lot has changed
[09:10] <ikonia> or you've deleted glibc
[09:10] <anarchy911_> hi
[09:11] <anarchy911_> hello
[09:11] <ikonia> you said that
[09:11] <Kartagis> heh, dpkg-query -l glib* says "un" for glibc-2.13-1
[09:11] <anarchy911_> sorry i'm new here
[09:12] <anarchy911_> and i'm french
[09:12] <herpp> nice name anarchy911
[09:12] <kristenbb> How can I change the driver of my graphic card ? If I go to 'additional drivers' and choose a new one, it says 'permission denied'.
[09:12] <anarchy911_> tanks
[09:13] <blazemore> kristenbb: Is there a fuller error message that comes up when you run "jockey" from the Terminal?
[09:15] <Kartagis> thanks ikonia, now to reboot
[09:15] <anarchy911_> herpp i'm new here
[09:15] <kristenbb> blazemore: no, but using sudo before solved it, thanks. I'm downloading a new driver, the one I had was not working. I hope it will solve my issue
[09:17] <blazemore> How can I use a keyring manager on Openbox?
[09:18] <blazemore> So I don't have to type my ssh passphrase every time
[09:18] <ak5> blazemore: is there any good keyring password manager?
[09:18] <blazemore> ak5: That's what I'm asking
[09:18] <ak5> Oh, so you don't have one in mind?
[09:18] <ak5> I create ssh keys with passphrase and then have them in .ssh/config
[09:18] <ak5> sorry, without passphrase
[09:18] <Touhou44> You can use GNOME keyring without the rest of GNOME
[09:19] <pabu> hi
[09:19] <blazemore> I need an ssh passphrase in case my key is stolen
[09:19] <mN-> Why cant I login into tty1... with my username?
[09:19] <blazemore> I just want it to be unlocked when I log in
[09:19] <blazemore> mN-: Because you're typing your username and/or password wrong
[09:20] <mN-> blazemore: if my username is Donkey Kong and pw lol
[09:20] <mN-> and i type both in and nothing happends, incorrect password
[09:20] <blazemore> mN-: Usernames don't usually have spaces in
[09:20] <blazemore> What's the output of "whoami" on a terminal?
[09:20] <mN-> blazemore: ah okay thanks :P
[09:21] <mN-> it works now, didnt know about the space thing
[09:21] <vivid> is +1 up and running yet?
[09:22] <blazemore> mN-: Your actual username is different from the "Full Name" or "real name" on the account
[09:22] <Spazz_Attak> hi, i am new to ubuntu and opensource.
[09:22] <mN-> blazemore: yeah.. jagginess told me im an idiot and quit when i said i cant login with Donkey Kong :<
[09:22] <Spazz_Attak> how can one contribute to the whole scene?
[09:22] <ikonia> !contribute | Spazz_Attak
[09:23] <pabu> Has anyone experience in ubuntu on lenovo R500 an the use of fingerprint / card-reader etc.?
[09:23] <blazemore> Spazz_Attak: Use Ubuntu until you know how to do stuff, then lurk in here helping people
[09:23] <Spazz_Attak> as in where do i begin? and what do i need to know?
[09:23] <ikonia> Spazz_Attak: read the URL ubottu just sent
[09:23] <vivid> Spazz_Attak, read the links provided.  then tinker and report
[09:23] <Kartagis> ikonia: sorry it was libc.so.6. I did a apt-file search libc.so.6 and found out that it's provided by libc6, and dpkg-query -l libc6 says ii
[09:23] <Kartagis> I get kernel panic
[09:23] <ikonia> Kartagis: yes, that's glibc
[09:24] <Spazz_Attak> cool
[09:25] <pabu> Has anyone experience in ubuntu on lenovo R500 an the use of fingerprint / card-reader etc.?
[09:26] <Kartagis> ikonia: so, what to do?
[09:26] <john> e\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\||||\\\\\\\
[09:26] <ikonia> Kartagis: your system is broken you are missing core libc libraries
[09:26] <Spazz_Attak> \quit
[09:26] <ikonia> Kartagis: you need to work out what you've done to remove it
[09:27] <blazemore> I'm trying to open port 873 but it's not working - I ran "/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 873 -j ACCEPT"
[09:27] <blazemore> But telnet 1.2.3.4 873 from another machine shows "No route to host"
[09:27] <Kartagis> !xen | ikonia This is the only thing I've followed
[09:28] <john> hello
[09:28] <herpp> helo sir
[09:28] <blazemore> How did you manage the name "john"? I'm impressed
[09:29] <_cronus_> Kartagis, it is also provided by libc-xen, which is a dependency of xen-hypervisor. maybe it has something to do with library load path
[09:29] <john> not sure lol
[09:29] <mN-> Yay I fixed  it, I have 120hz now!
[09:29] <blazemore> mN-: Were you asking about that yesterday?
[09:30] <mN-> yeah
[09:30] <ikonia> Kartagis: I suspect you have made a mistake somewhere or not seen somethin on screen
[09:31] <mN-> blazemore: They only helped me get nvidia-settings. but it worked after I modified xorg.conf saying 1680_1050_100 to 1680_1050_120, and then in tty1 just sudo service stop lightdm; service start lightdm
[09:31] <Kartagis> _cronus_: libc6-xen is also installed
[09:31] <mN-> so thanks to you too blazemore ^_^
[09:31] <blazemore> sudo service stop lightdm? Does that work
[09:31] <blazemore> I assumed it was sudo service lightdm stop
[09:32] <mN-> yeah i meant that
[09:32] <mN-> misspelled
[09:33] <Kartagis> I have a /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6, if that helps
[09:33] <ikonia> Kartagis: are you using 32bit ?
[09:33] <Kartagis> yes
[09:33] <ikonia> Kartagis: ok, so you are probably missing a symlink to /lib
[09:33] <_cronus_> Kartagis, yes, that's what i mean. there are 2 libc.so.6 files in your system. maybe it tries to load the wrong one. ldd /bin/bash may give you a hint which one it tries to load.
[09:34] <Kartagis> ikonia: from where?
[09:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: think about it
[09:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: what you've got and what I'v ejust said
[09:35] <Kartagis> _cronus_: it tries to load /lib/i386-linux-gnu/tls/i686/nosegneg/libc.so.6, which I also have
[09:35] <mN-> blazemore:  instead of Option "metamodes" "1680x1050_120 +0+0; nvidia-auto-select +0+0", I just wrote Option         "metamodes" "1680x1050_120 +0+0"
[09:35] <mN-> . I hope it stays after reboot, too
[09:36] <_cronus_> Kartagis, you are running the xen-enabled kernel when you run this command right?
[09:36] <Kartagis> _cronus_: I've just thought that
[09:36] <berdy> Hey guys! Has anyone figured out a good way to get Beats speakers on a laptop working with Ubuntu?
[09:37] <DJ_U|Laptop> Mornin' all.  :)
[09:37] <blazemore> berdy: Surely they'd just work? It would depend on the audio interface not the speakers
[09:37] <berdy> I have an HP Pavillion dv7 with two main Beats speakers, two regular by the touch pad, and a "sub" that's beats
[09:37] <berdy> blazemore, they don't
[09:37] <berdy> sound quality is shit
[09:37] <berdy> just using the two upfront that aren't beats
[09:37] <blazemore> inb4 "That's because they're Beats"
[09:37] <_cronus_> Kartagis, try sudo ldconfig
[09:38] <berdy> blazemore, so is there no solution for it yet?
[09:38] <blazemore> berdy: echo "options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[09:38] <blazemore> yes lenovo
[09:39] <berdy> then, do I restart?
[09:39] <berdy> Or log out and back in again?
[09:39] <DJ_U|Laptop> Do you folks discuss Kubuntu here or is there another channel for that?
[09:39] <Kartagis> _cronus_: do I do anything else afterwards?
[09:39] <blazemore> This one is more active DJ_U|Laptop , and a lot of problems aren't specific to KDE
[09:40] <DJ_U|Laptop> roger, thanks.  :)
[09:40] <blazemore> So ask your question and if #kubuntu would be more appropriate someone will say so
[09:41] <berdy> blazemore, do I need to restart anything now?
[09:41] <DJ_U|Laptop> Well, the one issue I have isn't specific to KDE, it seems to be the display/backlight.  it's a known issue though it seems.
[09:41] <blazemore> berdy: yes reboot
[09:41] <_cronus_> Kartagis, reboot to your previous kernel.
[09:41] <Kartagis> brb
[09:42] <DJ_U|Laptop> pretty sure it's related to the GMA4500M display adapter I have.
[09:42] <antonio_> hey folks..
[09:42] <omar> jey lambis
[09:42] <antonio_> I'm trying to figure out how to install this via wine http://download.spinnerchief.com/spinnerchief2.zip
[09:42] <antonio_> Its an article spinning software that I need to use for my website(s)
[09:42] <antonio_> Can someone try installing it on their end?
[09:42] <omar> es para murtar
[09:43] <antonio_> I can open it..but when I try to run the program I get an error
[09:43] <rsv> I had ubuntu 10.10 on my system, i had deleted some directories accidently and i re-installed it with 12.04. I forgot the password i had given during installation
[09:43] <rsv> how can i reset the password
[09:43] <antonio_> "End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[09:43] <antonio_>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[09:43] <antonio_>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[09:43] <antonio_>   the last disk(s) of this archive."
[09:43] <FloodBot1> antonio_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:43] <antonio_> whoops..sorry
[09:43] <blazemore> rsv: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[09:46] <rsv> blazemore: i will give it a shot
[09:46] <rsv> *reboots
[09:49] <Kartagis> same
[09:49] <Kartagis> /bin/sh: error loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: no such file or directory
[09:49] <Kartagis> _cronus_: ^
[09:52] <jacta> Have anyone tried how to stream to a "western digital live" box from ubuntu?
[09:53] <_cronus_> Kartagis, could you check that you have /etc/ld.so.conf.d/i686-linux-gnu.conf and that it contains /lib/i386-linux-gnu ?
[09:54] <Kartagis> _cronus_: yes and yes
[09:54] <jgfarnden> Hey there I have ubuntu 12.10 and I was trying to get hybrid graphics to work I've followed all the tutorials on getting it to work since I had it working on 12.04. I can't even get it to work on 12.10 and then I have to go and erase the xorg.conf for it to load lightdm but unity fails to load.
[09:55] <berdy> blazemore, still not working right
[09:55] <jgfarnden> I have a Samsung Chronos 7 Series 15.6" model
[09:56] <blazemore> berdy: Sorry then, I don't know
[09:56] <_cronus_> Kartagis, sorry, i can't think of anything else. :(
[09:56] <Kartagis> _cronus_: what causes a kernel panic?
[09:56] <berdy> Anyone else successfully configure their beats laptop speakers/
[09:56] <berdy> ?
[09:56] <jgfarnden> Well
[09:57] <jgfarnden> There's a android app for beats audio
[09:57] <jgfarnden> That's all I know
[09:57] <berdy> My HTC One X has that. But this is an HP Pavillion
[09:57] <hsnmck> Hi, I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and my computer is getting stuck in the splash screen when I'm trying to shutting it down (it didn't use to do this).. I would like to investigate to know what is going on, so where can I find the shut down's logs? thanks
[09:58] <_cronus_> Kartagis, an invalid kernel state usually
[09:58] <jgfarnden> hsnmck: Try holding shift
[09:58] <jgfarnden> when booting
[09:58] <jgfarnden> you'll get the recovery menu
[09:58] <_cronus_> Kartagis, which means... anything out of the ordinary
[09:59] <hsnmck> jgfarnden, is there logs there?
[09:59] <savio> hsnmck, in logviewer go for sys.log
[09:59] <jgfarnden> I'm pretty sure there is
[09:59] <savio> dmesg
[09:59] <jgfarnden> Theres that too
[09:59] <jgfarnden> xD
[09:59] <outofhand> hi, can someone help me please , i Updated to ubuntu 12.10 , problem is every 20 sec when idle my screen goes black . i have disabled it in settings, but still does the same thing
[10:00] <the_dark_knight> please somebody answer this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/210440/for-processes-to-be-up-and-running-all-the-time
[10:01] <DJ_U|Laptop> good night/day all.
[10:01] <rsv> blazemore:  it worked!
[10:02] <rsv> now, i have a launcher which is oriented vertically, how can i make it orient horizontally. this is in 12.04
[10:04] <LeMike> hello. LN across directories doesn't work here. I have to be in the directory where the link will go and use "ln -s ../../target link-foo". why could that be?
[10:04] <stevechch> ust submitted a "Show HN" at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4726827 - let me know what you think of the concept - and feel free to sign up
[10:04] <blazemore> rsv: What do you mean "a launcher which is oriented vertically"
[10:04] <rsv> blazemore: i mean it has all the icons "dash, home, browser..."
[10:05] <Kartagis> the_dark_knight: @reboot
[10:05] <blazemore> rsv: That's the Unity launcher
[10:05] <outofhand> anyone ?
[10:05] <rsv> blazemore: the vertical bar on your left
[10:05] <blazemore> You can't configure it
[10:05] <blazemore> I know right
[10:05] <Kartagis> the_dark_knight: also check ps x output
[10:05] <rsv> blazemore: i dont know how to, i clicked all over it
[10:05] <rsv> it doesnt work
[10:05] <blazemore> You *can't* configure it
[10:05] <blazemore> That is it, all it can do is launch applications
[10:05] <MestreLion> I currently have thunderbird set to use my ISP's SMTP server to send emails. Is it possible to configure command-line email programs to do the same?
[10:06] <Muelli> sure MestreLion. you could use ssmtp or a fully fledged postfix or exim
[10:06] <jgfarnden> I've seen the horizontal launcher on google
[10:06] <rsv> blazemore: i want it to run from the bottom of my desktop rather than on the left. it occupies too much space
[10:06] <Touhou44> MestreLion: Naturally, I recommend mutt
[10:06] <arkiver> I saw in someone's yakuake, there were some indicators at the bottom which displayed temperature, processor clock for each core and user name, ip etc. Can anyone tell me what needs to be added to get that ?
[10:06] <blazemore> rsv: You can't
[10:06] <MestreLion> for "command-line email programs" i mean tools like mail or sendmail (or whatever MTA/MUAs are common in Ubuntu/Linux world)
[10:07] <rsv> blazemore: okay
[10:07] <blazemore> rsv: Install XFCE or KDE if you want a more usable and configurable desktop
[10:07] <Touhou44> Funny how the Unity dock is less configurable than the Mac one
[10:07] <llutz> MestreLion: use ssmtp/msmtp/nullmailer
[10:07] <lapion> anyone having any problems with suspend/hibernate-> resume and bluetooth ?
[10:07] <rsv> blazemore: so right now ubuntu runs what? gnome
[10:07] <llutz> MestreLion: example http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/21/sending-email-from-your-system-with-ssmtp/
[10:08] <MestreLion> Muelli / llutz: any of these tools will allow command line emails to automatically use my ISP's SMPT ?
[10:08] <blazemore> rsv: A Linux-Centipede of Gnome, QT and custom stuff
[10:08] <Muelli> MestreLion: yes
[10:08] <llutz> MestreLion: thats what they're made for
[10:08] <MestreLion> nice, thanks!
[10:08] <uff> hi
[10:08] <rsv> blazemore: it looks good!
[10:09] <berdy> I'm having the same problem this person posted about: http://askubuntu.com/questions/205375/beats-audio-4-speakers-subwoofer-not-working-on-dv7-6165us-and-ubuntu-12-04
[10:10] <berdy> any one here have thoughts on it?
[10:10] <jacta> Have anyone a Western digital live box or such, and know if itsp ossible to stream movies to it directly
[10:11] <stevechc_>  Just submitted a "Show HN" at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4726827 - let me know what you think - and feel free to join up
[10:14] <llutz> stevechc_: do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[10:14] <arkiver> It was byobu
[10:16] <MestreLion> Muelli: llutz : what about maildir / mbox /mail / mailtools ? I'm not sure how these are related to command line emailing, or how they "interoperate" with ssmtp
[10:16] <nopcall> hi everyone
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[10:16] <llutz> MestreLion: no need to send mails
[10:16] <tdlguik1c> liveintokyosubwaypleasetreamhalfwaytherujohtfy dephoverahaundeleter igfthandr aculesosmurderdomeshalftimeshowtimedenirowalkintheparkkiddoxcoguysnemtdooradercaprteveniegalhatealwaysonmymindlarryphotoshopiwoalsojimakingliveintokyosubwaypleasetreamhalfwaytherujohtfy dephoverahaundeleter igfthandr aculesosmurderdomeshalftimeshowtimedenirowalkintheparkkiddoxcoguysnemtdooradercaprteveniegalhatealwa
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[10:16] <stevechc_> Yes, lluttz, what do you think of this concept as a way of learning to admin your Ubuntu servers?
[10:16] <Muelli> MestreLion: if you only want to send email, don't bother with all this. use sstmp and make your mail client send mails to the ssmtp server spawned on localhost
[10:16] <llutz> !ot | stevechc_
[10:17] <nopcall> ls
[10:17] <dr_willis> file not found
[10:18] <stevechc_> Ok. fair enuff!
[10:18] <MestreLion> Muelli: hummm... so ssmtp creates an smtp server at localhost? so I could set up thunderbird to localhost? wow...
[10:19] <MestreLion> I wasn't planning on chaning tb's config... I would at first just copy its smtp settings to whatever solution you pointed... but "localhost" is quite tempting :)
[10:20] <MestreLion> does that also mean that *any* software that tries to send email through localhost will now work? :D
[10:20] <Muelli> oh, wait a second MestreLion. ssmtp doesn't spawn a server. You would have to make postfix or exim to do that.  ssmtp is "only" a program to send mails via a relay
[10:20] <Muelli> and yes, it's a bit messy. Even in 2012.
[10:20] <sdfdafadfsadad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1323099/
[10:20] <sdfdafadfsadad> can  anyone help me?
[10:21] <llutz> MestreLion: be carefull, ssmtp does not queue mails. you don't want this for more than just systemmails
[10:22] <Haris> what's the url to the netboot for 11.10 ?
[10:22] <MestreLion> sdfdafadfsadad: you may need to restore grub. follow here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27155
[10:22] <Haris> is it -> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz
[10:22] <iceroot> Haris: no
[10:22] <_cronus_> Kartagis, i thought of something else. there is a link in /lib/ld-linux.so.2 that points to the library loader.
[10:23] <Haris> its http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz
[10:23] <iceroot> Haris: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz
[10:23] <iceroot> Haris: if you want the i386 version
[10:23] <MestreLion> llutz: what is queueing useful for?
[10:23] <iceroot> Haris: and why not 12.04 or 12.10?
[10:23] <sdfdafadfsadad> MestreLion: i cant go to ubuntu how to "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/UBUNTU /dev/sda " ?
[10:24] <MestreLion> sdfdafadfsadad: using a live cd / usb
[10:24] <sdfdafadfsadad> ok i have windows 7 already
[10:24] <llutz> MestreLion: if the receiving smtp-server is not reachable, a "real" (queueing) mailserver tries to deliver the mails later, ssmtp won't - it drops the mail
[10:24] <sdfdafadfsadad> MestreLion: now i put ubuntu boot cd then what should i do?
[10:24] <MestreLion> sdfdafadfsadad: I mean an *Ubuntu* Live CD/USB boot
[10:25] <Haris> the one wanting this box wants 11.10 specifically
[10:25] <Lartza> In addition to the Trash problem, PCManFM doesn't automount removables!
[10:25] <Lartza> Yayyy for logind etc...
[10:25] <rcspam> Hi, how to make so that the  fullscreen in flash application (youtube, dailymotion,...) working correctly, thanks !
[10:25] <Kartagis> _cronus_: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 -> i386-linux-gnu/ld-2.15.so
[10:25] <MestreLion> llutz: does it generate any log / error message when dropping? I'd be fine with that
[10:25] <hateball> rcspam: How is it *not* working correctly right now? That is, what is the actual issue?
[10:26] <MestreLion> sdfdafadfsadad: do you know how to burn a CD and boot using it?
[10:26] <llutz> MestreLion: iirc it logs to syslog, yes
[10:26] <sdfdafadfsadad> MestreLion: yes even i installed ubuntu already on D
[10:26] <sdfdafadfsadad> but i cant log on ubuntu
[10:27] <rcspam> hateball, when i press on te fullscreen icon, nothing appens, no fullscreen !!
[10:27] <MestreLion> sdfdafadfsadad: you will be able to log to your ubuntu hdd install after you boot the live cd and carefully follow those instructions I gave you
[10:28] <hateball> rcspam: Are you using Adobe Flash in Firefox? What graphics chipset/driver are you using?
[10:28] <sdfdafadfsadad> MestreLion: should i choose try ubuntu? or which option after boot cd?
[10:28] <Haris> I have this in ks file -> d-i mirror/http/hostname string 192.168.1.29:80
[10:29] <MestreLion> sdfdafadfsadad: yes, "try Ubuntu", so it boots you to a live session, where you can use nautilus, gparted an dterminal to follow the directions
[10:29] <Haris> what do I set d-i mirror/http/directory string <- to ?
[10:29] <bar_> Hello
[10:30] <sdfdafadfsadad> ok lemmecheck
[10:30] <bar_> Is this the place to ask for help with xubuntu?
[10:30] <rcspam> hateball, nv9800gt firefox and chromium
[10:30] <bar_> Is this the place to ask for help with xubuntu?
[10:30] <guang_> where i can find gstreamer document on my pc?
[10:31] <bekks> bar_: Yes.
[10:31] <rcspam> hateball,  last driver nv 304.60
[10:31] <Kartagis> I guess I'm stuck with the xen kernel ;)
[10:32] <bar_> Well, I just recently installed xubuntu on my system, and I keep getting crash reports
[10:32] <bar_> Everything seems to crash here, I don't know why though.. is it just me?
[10:33] <bar_> Like, I get "Sorry, the program java closed unexpectedly" or, "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error"
[10:33] <dr_willis> or its just a single report thats nit gettung cleared out bar_
[10:33] <vpmurdan> Hi. I am trying to configure two gateways in ubuntu. Hoping that my connections will be balanced. Any simple script available?
[10:34] <dr_willis> that is odd...
[10:34] <znnztg> hi
[10:34] <bar_> dr_willis: I see an internal error with a package named: xfce4-panel, the problemType: Crash
[10:35] <rcspam> hateball, am i alone with this bug ?
[10:36] <bekks> vpmurdan: You cant configure two gateways expecting things to work at all.
[10:36] <bekks> vpmurdan: IP expects one default gateway only.
[10:36] <hateball> rcspam: Probably not, I just wanted to get some more details from you, if anyone else has any idea. I don't run nvidia myself so I don't know of any specific issues there. Are you using 32-bit or 64-bit?
[10:37] <rcspam> hateball, 64-bits
[10:37] <hateball> rcspam: with native 64-bit flash or the nsplugin-wrapper?
[10:37] <dr_willis> bar_: is it crashing often.  or are you just seeing a report message?
[10:37] <rcspam> hateball, 64-bit flash
[10:38] <bar_> It's not just that dr_willis, everytime i turn my computer on it gives me a different crash report..
[10:38] <bar_> dr_willis: I'm not sure if it's crashing often or not, I'll close this message and see if I get any more of those reports
[10:39] <hateball> rcspam: manually installed with the tar installer or?
[10:39] <rcspam> hateball, apt
[10:40] <dr_willis> id have to suggest running memtest for a while to verify ram. and a good  cleaning. and test with a live cd or usb to try to narrow it diwn bar_
[10:40] <MestreLion> llutz / Muelli: I've installed ssmtp and it looks like this is indeed exactly what I need. But it's curious that, since it is not a daemon or require sudo, it does not have a per-user config file..
[10:40] <hateball> rcspam: It's been a long time since I used that myself. Does that actually use 64-bit now? It used to grab the 32-bit flash
[10:41] <Muelli> heh MestreLion. Feel free to patch it ;-)
[10:41] <hateball> rcspam: running "file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so" in a terminal should tell if it's 32-bit or 64-bit anyhow
[10:41] <bar_> dr_willis: I tried the live cd and got these issues too , I thought installing it would help it work better, but I'll try to run memtest
[10:41] <bar_> dr_willis:Where do I get it though?
[10:41] <dr_willis> its on the boot menu of the live cd somewhere
[10:42] <rcspam> hateball, i use 64-bit
[10:42] <MestreLion> Muelli: I probally will... its usually not hard to. But I wonder... I'm sure i'm not the first one to ask / want this, so why its not done already? It looks like a very popular package (and oh, btw, thank you guys!!!!)
[10:42] <inhies> anyone have any experience with the battery indicator for gnome?
[10:42] <inhies> mine shows that im alwas fully charged, which is definetely not the case
[10:43] <guang_> how to ctags in the directory "/usr/include"? Direct "ctag -R *"  command can not refer all function
[10:43] <Muelli> MestreLion: *shrug* don't know. I don't think it's a very highly demanded feature. If you have separate SMTP servers for separate users, you probably have a bigger installation and then run your own MTA anyway.
[10:43] <MestreLion> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=181315
[10:43] <hateball> rcspam: Well ok, then I guess it might be something with the nvidia driver or some such. I have no issues with 64-bit flash + intel.... so maybe someone else here knows more
[10:43] <C0r0c0tta> Hola
[10:44] <MestreLion> From 2003
[10:44] <administrator__> !
[10:45] <rcspam> hateball, thanks, this appens since several distribution, perhaps a card problem
[10:45] <bar_> Thanks for your help dr_willis
[10:46] <MestreLion> Muelli: even using the same smtp server for all users (say, gmail), their auth settings are surely personal... and it looks a bit awkward to set up a personal password in /etc
[10:46] <Muelli> MestreLion: I agree. But it's probably not meant to be configured with a "personal" SMTP server. Rather the ones from your ISP. Or college. Or company.
[10:48] <rcspam> hateball, fullscreen is working with troubles in youtube html5 ... so thank i think it's probaly a hardware problem
[10:48] <MestreLion> but my ISP's smtp (and I guess many college's and company's too) require login and password to send emails
[10:48] <hateball> rcspam: ok
[10:50] <bar_> Another question to you guys, how do I know if my graphics driver is currently active?
[10:50] <bar_> And not the default thing, but nvidia
[10:51] <gbili> hello, I'm sorry to ask this here, but is there a way to make sql like table join with google search. make a search like "asus motherboard" RIGHT JOIN "all electronics business in town", which would translate as "for each business in town, search asus motherboard site:<business-in-town.com>"
[10:53] <dr_willis> bar_: run nvidia-settings  is one way
[10:53] <vpmurdan> @bekks: Thks . may be I should use two pcs as routers and group my users in two groups
[10:54] <jonjo> hello
[10:54] <evilmoo> hi!
[10:54] <bar_> dr_willis I'm sorry for my lack of knowledge, but how would I run that?
[10:54] <bekks> vpmurdan: Or use a routing solution that implements load balancing and metrics.
[10:54] <jonjo> I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my server and the keyboard does not work correcltly as user but does as sudo
[10:54] <bar_> Oh nevermind, got it
[10:55] <sadasdasdas> MestreLion: hey there, thanks i finally installed ubuntu however i set password 12345 at the time of install
[10:55] <evilmoo> jonjo: how does it behave incorrectly?
[10:55] <jonjo> tab, direction arrowsdont work
[10:55] <sadasdasdas> but one thing is numpad key is not working
[10:56] <evilmoo> jonjo: console or X?
[10:56] <jonjo> ^[[C^[[D^[[A^[[B
[10:56] <jonjo> console
[10:56] <sadasdasdas> MestreLion: i tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras to install codec, but when terminal asking my password i cant type 12345
[10:56] <jonjo> its a server without x
[10:56] <MestreLion> sadasdasdas: have you tried using NumLock key?  :P
[10:57] <sadasdasdas> yes
[10:57] <evilmoo> jonjo: do they not work at all, or produce other characters?
[10:57] <jonjo> other characters
[10:57] <vpmurdan> df
[10:57] <jonjo> ^[[C^[[D^[[A^[[B << like that
[10:57] <vpmurdan> ooops
[10:57] <sadasdasdas> MestreLion: not only numpad key i cant type number anywhere on terminal
[10:58] <evilmoo> jonjo: try "stty reset"?
[10:58] <dr_willis> tthose look like escape  codes.
[10:59] <MestreLion> sadasdasdas: this is very weird, and I have no idea. But you can always boot using the recovery mode and change this password to something more meaningful
[10:59] <jonjo> reset is an invalid argument
[10:59] <evilmoo> jonjo: try "echo $SHELL" as the user?
[11:00] <jonjo> /bin/sh
[11:00] <MestreLion> sh? should be bash...
[11:00] <evilmoo> jonjo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6997842&postcount=3
[11:01] <evilmoo> jonjo: carefully edit your password file and change "/bin/sh" to "/bin/bash" for the line with your user name no it
[11:01] <evilmoo> er... user name on it
[11:01] <dr_willis> jonjo:  is this a vpn , vps or other unusual setup?
[11:01] <dr_willis> you can use the 'chsh' command to set the defsault shell. no needc to edit the file directly
[11:02] <evilmoo> oops
[11:02] <jonjo> dedicated server
[11:02] <evilmoo> sorry, yeah, use chsh
[11:02] <dr_willis> so its a normal ubuntu server install you did to a desktop machine?
[11:03] <jonjo> can Imake it work without logging back out?
[11:03] <dr_willis> run bash to get a bash shell.... as a test
[11:04] <jonjo> thanks
[11:04] <dr_willis> seen 2 people this week with defauklt shells of 'sh' instead of bash... wonder why
[11:04] <jonjo> something else you might be able to help me with while I am here
[11:05] <jonjo> my laptop running 12.04lts
[11:05] <violentacrez> "sh" is "bash" on Ubuntu, dr_willis I believe
[11:05] <jonjo> i keep it upgraded and recently the login broke
[11:05] <jonjo> i have to login twice everytime
[11:05] <jonjo> 1st time takes me back to login page
[11:05] <jonjo> after showing a black screen
[11:06] <jonjo> my server was a fresh install btw
[11:06] <jonjo> so it defaulted to sh
[11:07] <brave> How to save the backlights of screen in Ubuntu?
[11:07] <priyesh> Something is wrong with my 'Passwords and Keys', I'm getting seahorse: symbol lookup error: seahorse: undefined symbol: gck_attribute_hash
[11:12] <kristenbb> hi, I have a problem with my graphics card. I tried installing the property driver, but now I can't get to the log in screen
[11:12] <m000gle> I notice, every so often, that my Ubuntu 12.04 running Gnome-Shell will switch from the default GNOME on-screen display to NotifyOSD bubbles ... This appears to be a bug, but does anyone know of a way to make this change permanent?
[11:15] <kristenbb> can someone help me please with my driver issue ?
[11:15] <py_can> Hello, my cpu fan speed is driving me crazy, I was wondering if there was any way to make it go slower ( cpu temp is 20c ). Desktop pc.. Asus p5w dh deluxe motherboard.
[11:18] <dr_willis> kristenbb:  good idea to menttion your chipset when asking graphic issue questions
[11:18] <kristenbb> dr_willis: maybe i'd be eassier to mention it if i knew what it is :)
[11:19] <kristenbb> dr_willis: where can i find this info?
[11:19] <dr_willis> so you 'tried installing the driver' and you dont know what the card is? what did you try to install exactly?
[11:19] <dr_willis> lspci    should mention your video card.
[11:19] <kristenbb> dr_willis: I have a nvidia gtx 680 card, does that answer the 'chipset' question?
[11:20] <dr_willis> kristenbb:  so you have installed the 'nvidia-current' package?
[11:20] <kristenbb> dr_willis: yes I have
[11:20] <kristenbb> dr_willis: and even since, it fails to load the desktop properly
[11:20] <dr_willis> i seem to recall seeing '68' and nvidia issues befor. but never had one.
[11:20] <kristenbb> dr_willis: and ever* since, it fails to load the desktop properly
[11:21] <dr_willis> what does it do exactly? does the login screen work?
[11:21] <kristenbb> no it doesn't, an error message is displayed instead
[11:22] <CodeRat> OMG ... Ubuntu!
[11:22] <CodeRat> is still alive? Thought it chocked out with Unity ... seriously?
[11:22] <ikonia> CodeRat: enough
[11:22] <loli> not here, CodeRat
[11:22] <CodeRat> hi ikonia. Been a few years since I have seen you around.
[11:22] <kristenbb> dr_willis: it says: the system is running in low graphics mode. your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. you will need to configure these yourself
[11:22] <CodeRat> Onryo ;)
[11:23] <dr_willis> kristenbb:  tryed running the nvidia-settings tool?  'gksudo nvidia-settings' ?
[11:23] <kristenbb> dr_willis: no I didnt try it. but I can try. from there, what should i do?
[11:24] <dr_willis> kristenbb:  id also check the forums and askubuntu.com for that exxact chipset. there may be known work arounds or fixss for it
[11:24] <dr_willis> kristenbb:  i always   run nvidia-settings, configure my screens, then save the xorg.conf
[11:25] <dr_willis> install driver, reboot, run settings, configure it, restart x server... is all i normally do
[11:26] <goobraaaa11> Anyone know of way to speed up thumbnail rendering besides new hardware?
[11:27] <bekks> goobraaaa11: There is no other way.
[11:27] <CodeRat> goobraaaa11 to write something that is does not need an interpreter (python) and do it in C.
[11:28] <goobraaaa11> Okay thanks bye now
[11:29] <Kartagis> !xen
[11:31] <nabblet> hi, can some1 recommend me a light weight file manager, that can do double pane? i use thunar now and i like it, but it bothers me to open a second window for copying files
[11:32] <loli> nabblet: Midnight Commander?
[11:32] <Brottweiler> Hi. So I have a printserver. It goes like: Printer <-(usb) Printserver <-(network cable) Router <- Computers. Somehow I can add and connect to the printer via the Printer settings, but I get the "Spooling 0% complete" message, and nothing happens.
[11:33] <RealOptyz> How can i make it so when i use my tv, to auto select 720p mode
[11:33] <RealOptyz> (using the prop. nvidia driver)
[11:34] <nabblet> loli, ok i will try it thank you
[11:34] <savio> ubottu, is real person
[11:34] <savio> ubottu, :)
[11:37] <nabblet> loli, oh, mc is is a bit too light weight :P
[11:37] <ben__> !list
[11:39] <parapan> dear colleagues, HI; I have setup a VPN connection to a WIN server, however is does not work ...message is : VPN connection failed; anyone available to diagnose this issue ???
[11:41] <wols> parapan: make the VPN software more verbose. check the windows eventviewer, etc
[11:41] <wols> parapan: sniff the traffic of your software with wireshark, etc
[11:41] <vpmurdan> load balancing with two network cards on linux.
[11:42] <parapan> wols: first of all, thank you; second , can I use dmesg for identifying this issue , if YES, what syntax do I use ?
[11:42] <ngt> Hi there
[11:42] <wols> parapan: no you can not
[11:42] <wols> possibly syslog but unlikely. check your vpn software and what parameters it has
[11:43] <ngt> i am new to ubuntu and i have spend the last few days installing and understanding the system
[11:43] <parapan> wols: grrr ...then I have to check into wireshark ???
[11:43] <ngt> can anyone help me with my problem?
[11:43] <wols> no. into the documentation of your VPN software
[11:43] <loli> !ask | ngt
[11:43] <wols> ngt: only when you actually state it
[11:44] <ngt> will do
[11:44] <kristenbb> Can someone help me with my graphic card driver issue ?
[11:44] <loli> !ask | kristenbb
[11:45] <kristenbb> my problem is that ever since I installed the recommended driver, the desktop fails to load, there's an error message instead
[11:46] <kristenbb> the error says: the system is running in low graphics mode. your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. you will need to configure these yourself.
[11:46] <wols> kristenbb: short answer: nvidia-settings and change resolution. or hardwrite it into xorg.conf. other possibility: use a nvidia 30x.x driver from current ubuntu (i.e. upgrade to quantal)
[11:47] <kristenbb> wols: change it to what resolution?
[11:47] <py_can> how do I disable the nouveau kernel? I tried adding it to modprobe blacklist, launch ubuntu with 'nomodeset' but it will always be active
[11:47] <py_can> I'm trying to install nvidia drivers..
[11:47] <Seldaek> hey, can anyone help with ipv6 setup? I have the interface setup, I can ping my gateway and traceroute6 some stuff, but the ip is not reachable from outside it seems
[11:47] <wols> kristenbb: whateevr your monitor uses as native
[11:48] <kristenbb> wols: is there any way I can know what my monitor uses as native?
[11:48] <wols> py_can: then do it. unless you do it the bad way by going to nvidia.com
[11:48] <py_can> wols: what is bad about going to my vendors website to download drivers for linux?
[11:48] <wols> kristenbb: look on your invoice for your monitor. even I know that you have a samsung something or ever
[11:49] <wols> py_can: it breaks your ubuntu. it's not the way drivers are handled in linux. never were and hopefully never ever will be
[11:49] <py_can> okay. what do you suggest wols?
[11:49] <wols> !nvidia | py_can
[11:50] <wols> py_can: but you probably already have installed the crap from nvidia.com. good luck getting rid of it
[11:50] <py_can> wols: the installation wouldnt go trough because i couldnt get rid of nouveau
[11:50] <py_can> thanks for the good luck tho
[11:52] <kristenbb> wols: I tried changing the resolution there to the one of my screen, and rebooted, but the error is still there
[11:54] <Haris> got it network installed via the netboot archive
[11:54] <Haris> wouldn't work otherwise
[11:54] <Haris> w .. t .. h was that
[11:54] <Haris> lol
[11:57] <wols> kristenbb: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+question/39299
[12:03] <schinsin> hello server
[12:03] <loli> pavucontrol is only showing "dummy output" and I have no sound
[12:03] <py_can> I can't add it87 to modprobe. 'No such device'. I'm trying to lower my CPU fanspeed because its on 100% and makes a lot of noise.
[12:03] <loli> Sometimes rebooting fixes this
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> restart is "the windows trick"
[12:07] <loli> Well it's annoying me. I'm in the "audio" group
[12:08] <loli> And here is lshw http://paste.ubuntu.com/1323347/
[12:09] <johnshepard_> hello
[12:09] <johnshepard_> since i have installed the latest updates with the updater, my desktop is not working anymore
[12:09] <johnshepard_> how can i re enable the desktop?
[12:10] <coz_> johnshepard_,  can you recall any of the updates?
[12:11] <johnshepard_> no, there were many
[12:11] <coz_> johnshepard_,  did you already reboot?
[12:11] <johnshepard_> yes
[12:11] <coz_> mm
[12:11] <coz_> johnshepard_, how exactly is the desktop "not working"
[12:12] <minas> a friend of mine upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10. now unity isn't shown on his pc. we tried unity --reset but it says it is deprecated. what should I try?
[12:12] <coz_> minas,  not sure ,, try   unity --replace & disown
[12:13] <johnshepard_> coz_, there are no icons on the desktop, i can't show the contextual menu with right click, i can't make a selection box with left click
[12:13] <coz_> johnshepard_,  let me check hold on
[12:13] <johnshepard_> but the application bar at the bottom works fine
[12:13] <coz_> johnshepard_,  this is 12.04 or 12.10?
[12:13] <johnshepard_> 12.04
[12:13] <py_can> My CPU fan speed is always 100% and I cannot seem to do 'modprobe it87' because it errors. What to do? The noise is driving me crazy
[12:14] <ngt> I am trying to setup Unicenta opos but when the installation is complete but when i check in the dashboard there is no unicenta
[12:14] <sh3ll3r> hello there
[12:14] <loli> Can you show us the error py_can
[12:14] <loli> !paste | py_can
[12:14] <guang_> can ubuntu 10.04 install gstreamer 1.0?
[12:14] <py_can> loli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1323359/
[12:15] <loli> Sorry py_can idk
[12:15] <coz_> johnshepard_,  can you open a terminal
[12:15] <py_can> ok:)
[12:15] <johnshepard_> the application bar at the bottom works fine, when i open a window and go to the desktop inside my window i can view my desktop
[12:15] <johnshepard_> yes
[12:15] <johnshepard_> i mean i can view my icons on the desktop
[12:15] <coz_> johnshepard_,  try the unity --reset  then type   unity
[12:15] <researcher123> which is the best open source N/W simulator in Ubuntu?
[12:15] <loli> n/w?
[12:15] <minas> i enabled the open source driver and it worked :)
[12:16] <coz_> johnshepard_,  if that works dont close the terminal just log out then log back in
[12:17] <the_dark_knight> hey guys, I have one question. when I put this sample.conf file in /etc/init/ it works fine, even though it doesn't run the worker.py. But when i put it in $HOME/.init/ it says unknown job. please help me. here is my conf file http://www.bpaste.net/raw/3xGgfyobgkkwDP8dUc8Q/
[12:17] <AdvoWork> i'm doing: locate db.php | grep /home/files/  but is there a way I can output the contents of those files too?
[12:18] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[12:18] <dr_willis> upstart may not be set up to handle user controlled services yet the_dark_knight  i was thinking that was a 'for future releases'  fesature.
[12:18] <johnshepard_> coz_, that didn't work
[12:19] <coz_> johnshepard_,  darn,, ok,,, unless someone can help other than me,,, you can also search for solution, I dont use unity at all  but rather gnome session fallback
[12:19] <johnshepard_> ok
[12:20] <jrib> dr_willis: it's not enabled by default, but it should be supported on recent versions of ubuntu (judging from the wording in the docs anyway, I haven't actually tried it)
[12:20] <dr_willis> jrib:  i just recall it mentioned at the upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook docs. i thought i saw where it  was 'for the future'
[12:21] <dr_willis> but ive nevvver used it either. ;)
[12:21] <jrib> AdvoWork: 1) you can use a regex with locate so you don't need to grep 2) you can do something like: locate foo | while read -r file; do cat $file; done
[12:21] <bekks> find /home/files -type f -name db.php -exec cat {} \;
[12:22] <jrib> AdvoWork: or use find as bekks suggests
[12:22] <blackshirt> bekks, how to list of people on channel in irssi ?
[12:22] <jrib> blackshirt: try /names (maybe)
[12:22] <bekks> blackshirt: "/names"
[12:22] <coz_> johnshepard_,  if no one responds try a search string in google similar to     ubuntu 12.04 updates reboot only wallpaper
[12:23] <AdvoWork> thanks bekks, jrib much appreciated
[12:24] <deepthi> Hi All
[12:24] <coz_> hey
[12:24] <deepthi> In mylaptop wifi is not working
[12:24] <deepthi> from laptop to other device not working
[12:25] <deepthi> i am using ubuntu 11.04
[12:25] <deepthi> recenlt i upgraded
[12:25] <deepthi> pleaSE HELP ME
[12:26] <tasslehoff> We have a compiler that we need to run under wine (on the command line). When we do, X uses a perverse amount of cpu (~50%). Any idea what could cause such sadness?
[12:27] <Haris> Hello all
[12:27] <Haris> what's the password for root with the netboot archive ?
[12:27] <bekks> There is no root password.
[12:27] <Haris> for 11.10
[12:27] <bekks> !sudo | Haris
[12:28] <Haris> doesn't login me in without a password
[12:28] <Haris> log+ me+ in+
[12:29] <ngt> i have install Unicenta OSPOS but when ever i am trying to run the program this error pop out "There was an error launching the application. Detail: Failed to execute child process "/home/ngt/sh" (no such file or directory)
[12:29] <Haris> doesn't allow me to sudo in without a password
[12:30] <ewook> Haris: try the same as the def username.
[12:30] <Haris> it does
[12:30] <Haris> I'm in
[12:30] <Haris> sorry for that
[12:30] <ewook> Haris: np.
[12:32] <Haris> quit Leaving
[12:32] <ngt> anyone?
[12:32] <robbie> I am getting an error that my backup location is too small in deja dup, but it is 5gb and the backup will only be 85mb
[12:33] <ngt> i have install Unicenta OSPOS but when ever i am trying to run the program this error pop out "There was an error launching the application. Detail: Failed to execute child process "/home/ngt/sh" (no such file or directory)
[12:33] <dr_willis> is there a sh file where its looking ngt?
[12:33] <ngt> nope there is no sh folder
[12:33] <T3> 88kjuzinho
[12:33] <dr_willis> so thats the issue it seems
[12:33] <bekks> ngt: /home/ngt/sh is a file expected.
[12:33] <robbie> ngt a script named sh makes me nervous already -- suspicious
[12:34] <dr_willis> weird name and path for it.
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> might wanna pastebin it to check :)
[12:34] <AdvoWork> another thing, im doing a locate on something, its showing results, i removed the file, did the locate again, it still shows the file even though ive removed it? any ideas?
[12:34] <ngt> am i suppose to look for it?
[12:34] <ngt> where can i find it?
[12:34] <robbie> AdvoWork: updateb
[12:34] <robbie> AdvoWork: updatedb
[12:35] <robbie> locate runs off a database that is updated regularly
[12:35] <dr_willis> ngt: i wonder why its looking for sh there
[12:35] <ngt> i am not really sure
[12:35] <the_dark_knight> hey guys, I have one question. when I put this sample.conf file in /etc/init/ it works fine, even though it doesn't run the worker.py. But when i put it in $HOME/.init/ it says unknown job. please help me. here is my conf file http://www.bpaste.net/raw/3xGgfyobgkkwDP8dUc8Q/
[12:35] <ngt> i have been trying to understand the system
[12:35] <nopf> dr_willis: it is supposed to be java. why is it looking for sh at all?
[12:35] <ngt> for the past few days
[12:35] <dr_willis> bug in the program would be my guess
[12:36] <coz_> the_dark_knight,  I may not have an answer, however, what is the .conf file for?
[12:36] <jrib> the_dark_knight: you need to enable user jobs in upstart
[12:36] <robbie> ngt could you pastebin the script that is calling sh ?
[12:36] <robbie> I am getting an error that my backup location is too small in deja dup, but it is 5gb and the backup will only be 85mb
[12:36] <the_dark_knight> jrib: not getting you.
[12:37] <jrib> the_dark_knight: upstart isn't configured to check user's ~/.init by default in ubuntu
[12:37] <jrib> the_dark_knight: afaik
[12:37] <the_dark_knight> jrib: modified .conf file http://www.bpaste.net/raw/i2Fs9WlAWgkzeAH3gz3e/. log prints it till " just before starting the worker"
[12:37] <robbie> the_dark_knight: you need to enable user jobs in upstart: http://bradleyayers.blogspot.com/2011/10/upstart-user-jobs-on-ubuntu-1110.html
[12:38] <blackshirt> how to use regular expression with aptitude to represent *
[12:38] <blackshirt> ?
[12:38] <tarzeau> blackshirt: .* ?
[12:38] <tarzeau> or use it with apt-get
[12:38] <robbie> blackshirt: I thought the star was bare in aptitude
[12:39] <robbie> blackshirt: wine* is all the wine stuff
[12:39] <blackshirt> robbie: thats dont works
[12:39] <ngt> robbie: sorry but can you tell me how to do that.
[12:39] <robbie> ngt: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste your script and then post the url here
[12:40] <the_dark_knight> robbie: jrib , new conf http://www.bpaste.net/raw/i2Fs9WlAWgkzeAH3gz3e/  why is it not running the exec. when I see my syslog it gives log till " just before starting the worker"
[12:40] <robbie> blackshirt: if you are calling it oddly you may need to escape the "*" .. wine\* ... Im not sure other than that -- I thought I just id this the other day
[12:40] <the_dark_knight> robbie: jrib , please help
[12:41] <robbie> the_dark_knight: please see the url I sent you
[12:41] <robbie> the_dark_knight: http://bradleyayers.blogspot.com/2011/10/upstart-user-jobs-on-ubuntu-1110.html
[12:42] <robbie> the_dark_knight: here's the page for playing with upstart -- Im sorry man, I dont actually use it: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[12:43] <the_dark_knight> robbie: it just helps regarding ther user services. but I can run the sample service now. just can't run the exec statement in it. please have a look at http://www.bpaste.net/raw/i2Fs9WlAWgkzeAH3gz3e/ .
[12:43] <robbie> blackshirt:  did it help ?
[12:43] <the_dark_knight> robbie: your url doesn't help regarding this, it helps for my previous problem regarding $HOME/.init
[12:43] <robbie> the_dark_knight: either put it in /etc/init or enable "user jobs" in upstart -- see the second link for the manual for upstart
[12:44] <blackshirt> robbie, wine? was works
[12:44] <robbie> the_dark_knight: the manual for upstart is all I can give you, sorry. that is the only program for running jobs from $HOME/.init
[12:45] <robbie> blackshirt:  heh
[12:45] <robbie> blackshirt:  and wine\* doesnt?
[12:45] <robbie> I am getting an error that my backup location is too small in deja dup, but it is 5gb and the backup will only be 85mb
[12:46] <blackshirt> robbie: wine\* was interpreted as wine*,
[12:46] <dr_willis> the_dark_knight: try having it run a simple command. not the prthon script.
[12:46] <robbie> Need a DEJA DUP user's help please
[12:46] <the_dark_knight> robbie: I have put sample.conf in /etc/init/ it works fine upto running this service. but my log says http://www.bpaste.net/raw/qgcQKKPvGvDryuvrasLo/.   my conf http://www.bpaste.net/raw/i2Fs9WlAWgkzeAH3gz3e/
[12:46] <robbie> blackshirt: it sounds like you are putting it in a script
[12:46] <the_dark_knight> dr_willis: ok hold on
[12:46] <Haris> it can't bring up the eth0 interface :[
[12:46] <Haris> netinstall is a mess, in that one has to struggle quite a lot with it to make it network capable
[12:46] <the_dark_knight> dr_willis: which command should I run. ls?
[12:46] <Haris> interface config for eth0 is ready in /etc/network/interfaces, yet its saying it cannot bring eth0 up
[12:47] <Haris> w .. t .. h is going on with it ?
[12:47] <dr_willis> the_dark_knight: or   echo   it works...
[12:47] <robbie> the_dark_knight: you need to change your logging message, it says "start" when it means stop
[12:48] <fluitfries> hmmm...  lubuntu doesn't seem to have a gui for startup applications.
[12:48] <ngt> robbie: ok but where is this script? sorry i am quite a noob.
[12:48] <robbie> the_dark_knight: the last logger line should be: logger "post-stop for sample"
[12:48] <robbie> ngt I dont know -- its the one that is giving you that error
[12:48] <schinsin> did you now rudetube
[12:49] <schinsin> ?
[12:49] <robbie> I am getting an error that my backup location is too small in deja dup, but it is 5gb and the backup will only be 85mb
[12:49] <loli> !patience | robbie
[12:49] <yepwatermelon> Question
[12:49] <yepwatermelon> I'm trying to install libboost-dev and I'm getting this error:
[12:49] <robbie> loli Im pitching in, I can ask once every few minutes my own question cant I?
[12:50] <schinsin> rudetube tv hehe
[12:50] <yepwatermelon> (Reading database ... 182877 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:50] <yepwatermelon> Unpacking libboost1.46-dev (from .../libboost1.46-dev_1.46.1-7ubuntu3_amd64.deb) ...
[12:50] <yepwatermelon> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libboost1.46-dev_1.46.1-7ubuntu3_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[12:50] <yepwatermelon>  trying to overwrite '/usr/include/boost/aligned_storage.hpp', which is also in package libboost1.44-dev 1.44.0-2ubuntu1~10.04back1
[12:50] <yepwatermelon> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[12:50] <yepwatermelon> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:50] <FloodBot1> yepwatermelon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:50] <yepwatermelon>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libboost1.46-dev_1.46.1-7ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[12:50] <loli> !paste | yepwatermelon
[12:50] <robbie> yepwatermelon: kinda looks like you have a bad download -- check the md5
[12:50] <yepwatermelon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1323430/
[12:51] <yepwatermelon> okay then
[12:51] <the_dark_knight> robbie: dr_willis , simple echo "hi" > ~/abc.log works, How do I make it run with python script
[12:51] <robbie> yepwatermelon: wait i see now there was a real error in there
[12:51] <yepwatermelon> any ideas?
[12:52] <the_dark_knight> robbie: dr_willis , should I put "python sample.py" in a "sample.sh" and exec it?
[12:52] <robbie> yepwatermelon: can you uninstall libboost1.44-dev first?
[12:52] <Haris> guys, where does ubuntu keep the network mac address config ?
[12:52] <ngt> robbie: the error pop up and the text on it "There was an error launching the application. Details: Failed to execute child process "/home/ngt/sh" (No such file or directory) and there is an ok button. Nothing else
[12:52] <jpds> Haris: udev.
[12:52] <dr_willis> the_dark_knight:  id double check yout paths and permissions and script. perhaps put the command in your defualt Path
[12:52] <Haris> do I need to give the mac address in interfaces files to make it work ?
[12:52] <robbie> ngt you dont know what script is being run that is causing that?
[12:53] <jpds> Haris: You don't.
[12:53] <jpds> Haris: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[12:53] <schinsin> the gingers do have souls
[12:53] <schinsin> :)
[12:53] <yepwatermelon> That just throws an error saying I have unmet dependencies. From there I run apt-get -f install and get the above error again. :S
[12:53] <robbie> the_dark_knight: I dont kow python, sorry
[12:53] <ngt> robbie:  unfortunately i don't understand what you mean by script. Try to google it but no luck
[12:54] <robbie> ngt you dont know what APPLICATION is being run that is causing that?
[12:54] <ngt> Unicenta oPOS
[12:54] <ngt> robbie: unicenta oPos
[12:54] <robbie> ngt: its just a random pop up interrupting your day or what?
[12:54] <the_dark_knight> dr_willis: robbie , I put "cd /home/magic/Documents  python Worker.py" in sample.sh and "exec sample.sh" and it works.
[12:54] <robbie> ngt oo
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:55] <ngt> robbie: nope i am trying to run this program which i install earlier but that is the error pop out.
[12:55] <yepwatermelon> So what should I do. I'm stuck in a loop here.. :/
[12:55] <Haris> what service do I need to restart for ubuntu to reload its network interface config ?
[12:55] <bubu\a> how can I google to find all squid.conf files publicly avail?
[12:55] <Haris> or the config mentioned in udev
[12:55] <robbie> ngt: Id contact them if I cant find the script they are using that is giving the error
[12:55] <robbie> ngt commercial software is well supported usually
[12:55] <ngt> nope it's actually free software
[12:55] <ngt> it's an Point of Sale software
[12:56] <robbie> ngt: did you see their web page? wow thats some nice looking free software :)
[12:56] <ngt> robbie: yup but not much help can be found on this matter.
[12:56] <robbie> ngt:  ok well .. if you want you can scan your syslog and see if you get lucky with a specific message from their software
[12:56] <ngt> robbie: though might try my luck here first
[12:57] <robbie> ngt: yea good luck sorry, without knowing the process causing the error its not easy to diagnose
[12:57] <robbie> the_dark_knight: congrats :)
[12:58] <robbie> I am getting an error that my backup location is too small in deja dup, but it is 5gb and the backup will only be 85mb
[12:58] <robbie> anyone know/use the default backup software for Ubuntu ?
[12:58] <ngt> robbie: thanks will try to look around and come back later. I am a windows user so it's kinda hard with ubuntu right now
[12:58] <bekks> robbie: Why?
[12:59] <the_dark_knight> robbie: I mean I have previously tried to put "python" in cron too. It didn't work either, I had to go with a shell script with python command. Wonder why I can't directly run python
[12:59] <yepwatermelon> Yeah I'm still stuck... :/
[12:59] <robbie> bekks: I am getting an error that my backup location is too small in deja dup, but it is 5gb and the backup will only be 85mb
[12:59] <bekks> robbie: So you are using deja dup then.
[12:59] <yepwatermelon> robbie: trying to remove it throws an unmet dependency error running apt-get -f install throws the error from earlier
[13:00] <robbie> yepwatermelon: what is the other application that is requiring libboost-dev?
[13:00] <robbie> bekks: its the default backup software in Ubuntu
[13:01] <yepwatermelon> robbie: libboost-dev
[13:02] <guang_> can ubuntu 10.04 install gstreamer 1.0?
[13:02] <robbie> yepwatermelon: what is the *other application* that requires libboost-dev?
[13:03] <the_dark_knight> robbie: gearman requires it.
[13:03] <the_dark_knight> robbie: sorry that was other discussion.
[13:04] <yepwatermelon> robbie: They're just dependencies required to compile another program.
[13:05] <robbie> the_dark_knight, yepwatermelon: whichever software that is, you might make a backup of it, and then uninstall it... install libboost1.46-dev and then reinstall the other software -- but I think you are going to find that it won't accept libboost1.46-dev, so you'll need to get the package from the source instead of from ubuntu
[13:05] <robbie> bekks: yeah, it's the default backup software in Ubuntu
[13:06] <sls> join #als
[13:06] <sls> hello
[13:07] <JuJuBee> I am trying to install 12.10 64 bit onto this laptop but get a message telling me it requires an x86-64 but only has i686?  http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/satellite_A105-S4284.pdfv
[13:07] <jeaton> how do I go about changing the DE in ubuntu 12.10?
[13:07] <Haris> no /etc/inittab on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[13:07] <bekks> Haris: No.
[13:08] <Haris> where does it store the config with which I can tell it to boot in what init mode
[13:08] <jeaton> i can't force myself to like unity
[13:08] <bekks> Haris: There are no initmodes anymore since Upstart.
[13:08] <Haris> !upstart
[13:08] <bekks> !upstart | Haris
[13:09] <Haris> how do I make it remain on console, rather than go to X after bootup ?
[13:09] <Haris> do we have runlevels ?
[13:09] <bekks> Haris: No. As just being told.
[13:10] <bekks> Disable the startup of the desktop manager in /etc/default/
[13:10] <DJones> !text | Haris
[13:10] <Haris> I see
[13:11] <RxDx> please, I have 2 NICs (network interfaces) connected on a router... One is connect on a PCI and another is on a miniPCI... How can I know which interface is connect on each device? I mean.. i wanna know if wlan0 is the network connect on a miniPCI or on PCI slot..
[13:11] <bekks> RxDx: Connect a cable and see which interface it is.
[13:11] <Haris> => /etc/default/console-setup file ?
[13:12] <RxDx> bekks: there is no cables.. they are both wireless interfaces
[13:12] <Haris> I think this ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode ) link is broken
[13:12] <bekks> Haris: Why do you think that?
[13:12] <bekks> RxDx: Just pull out one of them...
[13:12] <Haris> I see no such heading or point that it takes me to on the page, after this web page loads up
[13:13] <RxDx> bekks: u mean.. ifconfig wlan0 down?
[13:13] <RxDx> but how can i know if i pulled out the miniPCI or the PCI?
[13:13] <jeaton> how do I switch to a gnome environment?
[13:13] <bekks> RxDx: By looking into your hands...
[13:14] <bekks> RxDx: No. I mean "pull it out of your computer".
[13:14] <RxDx> bekks: on my hands i can see both.. but i dont know if the device that im looking for is the wlan0 or the wlan1
[13:14] <bekks> RxDx: Do you know the difference between PCI and miniPCI?
[13:14] <Haris> this is the CD's default options
[13:14] <RxDx> bekks: hmm, its an option.. but is there any other way without take the card off?
[13:14] <Haris> its not options for installed OS
[13:15] <bekks> Haris: I just told you how to solve your problem.
[13:15] <RxDx> bekks: yes.. but both uses the same driver
[13:15] <bekks> RxDx: And...?
[13:15] <RxDx> (atk5) i guess
[13:15] <RxDx> them i cannot differ them.. i mean.. i dont know if im looking for wlan0 is the miniPCI or the PCI device
[13:16] <bekks> RxDx: Do you know that PCI and miniPCI have different sizes when compared to each other?
[13:16] <Haris> bekks: I didn't understand the message
[13:16] <RxDx> i need to know that because i wanna make wlan0 connect via adhoc with miniPCI device while wlan1 is an AP connect via PCI
[13:16] <Haris> there's nothing in what I read that relates to it
[13:16] <RxDx> bekks: physical size? yes, i know
[13:16] <bekks> RxDx: Then pull out ONE of them...
[13:17] <bekks> RxDx: Where's the problem with that?
[13:17] <RxDx> bekks: this routers could be installed on a remote location that i could not have physical access
[13:17] <bekks> RxDx: But now, you have access...
[13:18] <Haris> I can't find the relevant file under /etc/defaults/
[13:18] <bekks> Haris: So which desktop manager do you use?
[13:18] <RxDx> bekks: ill have to do that way hehe.. thanks a lot :)
[13:19] <Haris> I don't want to use any. Just want it to boot into console/cli
[13:19] <bekks> Haris: So which do you use NOW?
[13:19] <Haris> I'v installed 11.10-server-64bit
[13:19] <bekks> Haris: And why did you install X on your server then?
[13:19] <Haris> I'm not sure. I'v just installed 11.10 from netboot. Can't see anything on KVM
[13:19] <Haris> I didn't tell it to install X
[13:20] <Haris> I wanted a basic, bare minimum install from network
[13:20] <bekks> Then there is no X installed. And no desktop manager. Your vm is bootinginto cli.
[13:20] <wols> Haris: don't start a display manager.
[13:20] <bekks> wols: He didnt.
[13:20] <wols> bekks: but he got X somehow or what?
[13:20] <Haris> when the box boots up, the KVM screen goes "No signal"
[13:20] <bekks> wols: No.
[13:20] <Haris> but when I send Alt+F4 macro to KVM, the display goes back to cli
[13:20] <bekks> Haris: Then boot into text mode as suggested.
[13:20] <wols> Haris: nomodeset
[13:21] <Haris> I'm not sure what I was suggested
[13:21] <bekks> You were. :)
[13:21] <Haris> I can't find anything relevant under /etc/default
[13:21] <bekks> That has nothing to do with the text mode.
[13:21] <bekks> That only has something to do with not starting a desktop manager.
[13:22] <Haris> wols: there's nothing as "nomodeset" on cli on 11.10
[13:22] <Haris> ok
[13:22] <bekks> Haris: ? nomodeset is a kernel option, not a cliu command.
[13:22] <Haris> ah
[13:22] <ubh> hi all! I need to get 2 connections working...
[13:22] <Haris> there's no /etc/sysconfig on ubuntu. Where do I set this option
[13:23] <bekks> Haris: In the bootloader config.
[13:23] <Haris> ah, I'm going to have to read a lot about this. I'll let go of this one for now.
[13:23] <ubh> laptop--->wifi--->router--->internet AND laptop--->eth--->router--->eth--->PS3
[13:23] <bekks> !grub2 | Haris
[13:23] <Haris> second issue, the ciritical one, I have is, its not bringing up eth0 interface. I can't find the reason
[13:23] <Haris> ah that
[13:24] <wols> Haris: what's in your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[13:24] <ubh> how can I get theese 2 connections works at same time?
[13:24] <bekks> ubh: Why do you want to connections to your router? Thats not necessary.
[13:24] <LennyLinux> Hi, i created a bootable usb and set usb-zip (i tried usb-hdd also) as fist bootable device in the bios, but it doesn't work. The other day it worked with win8 on the same pen. Do you have any advice? Could you help me, please?
[13:24] <Haris> auto lo and auto eth0. then normal interface config under the auto eth0 line for eth0. pasting it
[13:24] <ubh> bekks: because I'm connected to the internet and laptop is near my router
[13:24] <bekks> ubh: And...?
[13:25] <ubh> bekks: PS3 is far from router
[13:25] <bekks> You dont need two connections, but only one.
[13:25] <wols> LennyLinux: how did you create it?
[13:25] <ubh> bekks: ? explain please
[13:25] <ubh> I'm a bit n00b on networking
[13:26] <tinux> Hi
[13:26] <Haris> http://pastebin.com/ypZAKtUB3
[13:26] <bekks> ubh: laptop <- wifi-> router <- cable -> internet / ps3
[13:26] <Haris> correction
[13:26] <Haris> http://pastebin.com/ypZAKtUB
[13:26] <bekks> ubh: Thats all you need.
[13:26] <LennyLinux> wols: i tried universal usb creator and now live linux usb creator.
[13:27] <tinux> Where can i see when apache will be upgrade to 2.2.23 on ubunti 12.04? We need the allowAnyURI and thats broken in 2.2.22
[13:27] <tinux> s/ubunti/ubuntu/
[13:27] <ubh> bekks: I don't understand at all... You maybe mean that with only one interface I can communicate with PS3 and also surf 'net?
[13:28] <wiehanvdmerwe> How do I completely 'reset' the package manager, cause my retarded apt wants to downgrade to 12.04 after my dist-upgrade to 12.10..
[13:29] <Haris> it says, cannot find eth0. failed to bring up eth0
[13:29]  * ubh connected?
[13:30] <tinux> It does not need to be connected or cabled to bring it up
[13:30] <mandla> Hello. Is it only me, i couldnt upgrade from Precise Pangolin to Quantal Quetzal. I ended up installing a fresh copy of 12.10 of a different partition.
[13:30] <wiehanvdmerwe> How do I reset/fix apt
[13:31] <Haris> I see it defined in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file
[13:31] <ubh> bekks: and if my laptop an ps3 are LAN Gbit and router only 100Mbps? I should connect via eth directly to the PS3 to have full speed, right?
[13:31] <tinux> Where can i see when apache will be upgrade to 2.2.23 on ubunti 12.04? We need the allowAnyURI and thats broken in 2.2.22
[13:31] <phaber> holaaaaa.................
[13:31] <tinux> heys
[13:33] <Haris> any ideas why its not finding eth0 ?
[13:33] <Slart> tinux: I'm not sure they will.. you might have to get the next version of ubuntu
[13:34] <Slart> tinux: ubuntu doesn't do rolling updates unless it's security stuff, iirc
[13:34] <tinux> Slart: hmm its 12.04LTS :) long term... yay
[13:34] <mandla> Haris, use ethtool to bring it up.
[13:34] <TheLordOfTime> tinux, they won't upgrade the versions in already-released versions, bugs and security fixes get pushed in with patches and minor fixes
[13:34] <Haris> I have it disabled in bios. that's why it can't find it
[13:34] <tinux> I will make a bugreport
[13:34] <Haris> my! bad
[13:35] <TheLordOfTime> tinux, they won't upgrade that to 2.2.23, but if you can find bugfixes that would fix it in 2.2.22 it could be SRU'd (and bugfixes are put in)
[13:35] <robbie> how can I set the font in indicator-messages? it is too dark except the very last line that says "clear"
[13:35] <mandla> Haris, fix it :)
[13:35] <tinux> They turned it of on 2.2.22 but didnt enable the option
[13:37] <robbie> how can I set the font in the messaging menu (indicator-messages)? it is too dark except the very last line that says "clear"
[13:38] <LennyLinux> Hi, i created a bootable usb and set usb-zip (i tried usb-hdd also) as fist bootable device in the bios, but it doesn't work. The other day it worked with win8 on the same pen. Do you have any advice? Could you help me, please?
[13:38] <Haris> fixed that
[13:38] <Haris> I still can't connect to network with ti
[13:39] <micjan02> how do i make apt-cache show information only the package that is installed and not all packages with given name?
[13:40] <Haris> how do I make ubuntu reload its network interface config ?
[13:40] <robbie> Haris: sudo service network restart
[13:41] <Haris> I'm already logged in as root, for now
[13:41] <Haris> I see
[13:41] <robbie> dont need sudo then.. but it wont hurt
[13:41] <robbie> :P
[13:41] <Haris> when I use the stop command
[13:41] <Haris> it says invalid interface or job
[13:41] <wols> Haris: ifdown <interface> ifup <interface>
[13:41] <robbie> Haris: just start it then
[13:41] <wols> Haris: what command do you run?
[13:41] <Haris> wols: I remember those ones :D
[13:42] <robbie> Haris: service network start
[13:42] <Haris> => /etc/init.d/networking restart, /etc/init.d/network-interfaces restart
[13:42] <mandla> Check if the links are up, ethtool
[13:43] <robbie> Haris: I *think* networking and network-manager are subsystems and the main service is "network"
[13:43] <Haris> can you believe it, the server ISO/version doesn't come pre-installed with openss-server
[13:43] <Haris> I see
[13:43] <Haris> I mean the netboot one
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Haris: you can remaster it to have it. The server install CD is there to install the server OS, so why would it be needed?
[13:45] <n00bie> How can i create a startup usb stick from ubuntu-12.04.1-server-i386.iso ?
[13:45] <Haris> got it working
[13:45] <blackshirt> haris, you can install it manually
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: use unetbootin, it runs on nearly everything
[13:45] <nikolam> Hi, I installed text-only Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit on BTRFS as Virtualbox Guest and it is saying this error on Boot: "sparse file not allowed". After I hit enter it boot right. It is without installed drivers/VBox addons.
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: server OS doesn't come with a desktop UI. Is that what you want?
[13:45] <Haris> how can one connect to the server remotely, if not via ssh ?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: I had that, no idea of the fix
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Haris: install openssh-server on the system
[13:46] <robbie> ActionParsnip: hey, good morning
[13:46] <Haris> already done =)
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Haris: then connect away
[13:46] <blackshirt> robbie: good night here :D
[13:46] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, will see if it goes away after installing addons
[13:46] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: i tried to boot into desktop verion of 12.04.1 i368 and using the startup media creator, but unfortunately it produces a corrupt result
[13:46] <Haris> =)
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> robbie: howdy
[13:46] <VlanX> can i just install the 3.5 kernel with apt-get under 12.04 ?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: what video chip do you use?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: you may find a PPA but it won't be supported here as it's a 3rd party kernel
[13:47] <robbie> ActionParsnip: Im looking for help with indicator-messages -- do you know how I can change the text color of the submenus? for some reason they are dark on dark instead of like every other indicator
[13:47] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: huh? nvidia gt 240?
[13:47] <blackshirt> VlanX: yes, sure
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> robbie: check font settings
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: did you add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[13:48] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: how is it possible if 3.5 belongs to 12.10 ?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: its a later release, so has a later kernel
[13:48] <robbie> ActionParsnip: ok Ill search that thanks :)
[13:48] <food> I installed ubuntu 12.04.1 (64bit) yesterday and my laptop continued for 24 hours and many hours it was idle. I was been running 2-3 Applications vmware workstation(With 2 guests), Firefox  . Today again the all icons, menus,windows etc got ugly. I did not even able to take any screenshot because i can't click on K menu SO i forcefully reboot the system(So i again lost my all important works) . This happened on Ubuntu 32 before but the same proble
[13:48] <food> m in 64 bit too. Anyone can help me to fix this please?
[13:49] <nikolam> Also PATA CD/DVD is not available in /etc/fstab after install (even if CD was inserted in the same PATA drive for install...)
[13:49] <Haris> check this out. I said service network restart. it says network: unrecognized service
[13:49] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: nope thats another problem, im booting it with nomodeset, but there seems to be a bug in the startup media creator since i thought i used the most compatible verion and when i check the created usb drive with md5sum -c md5sum.txt there are missing files
[13:49] <Haris> lol
[13:49] <nikolam> same for bare metal 640bit install and 32bit Vbox install from PATA DVD
[13:49] <Haris> o_O
[13:50] <LucidGuy> Has anyone tried installing Ubuntu 12.04 .. then xfce-desktop, then completely removing Unity?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: you should add the nouveau.blacklist=1 so that you use fallback driver, you can then install the propriatary driver once installed and be ok
[13:50] <blazemore> LucidGuy: Why not just install xubuntu?
[13:50] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: so you suggest me to istall 12.04 rather than upgrade ?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: why uninstall Unity? It's  tiny
[13:50] <LucidGuy> blazemore, because Xubuntu 12.04 only has 3 year support as apposed to 5
[13:50] <nikolam> LucidGuy, it sounds to me like Xubuntu install. It has no Unity but everything works.
[13:50] <blackshirt> LucidGuy: maybe someone has trying to do that..why not you try it ?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: for me personally, clean install is always ideal (seen too many issues  with upgrades)
[13:51] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: thanks, but thats not the problem in facing right now. i need to create a usb drive for server install with all the needed files . currently i get     md5sum: ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default: No such file or directory
[13:51] <robbie> is there a general resource on .desktop files?
[13:51] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: k thank you :)
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: Xubuntu 12.04 is supported as long as Ubuntu 12.04 is. Lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS
[13:51] <food> Clean install also has big issue if it is 12.4
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: use TAB to autcomplete folder names.
[13:52] <LucidGuy> ActionParsnip, Thats not ture.  Xubuntu is 3, Ubuntu is 5
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> food: if your work is 'impportant' why is it not backed up?
[13:52] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: how would i do that_
[13:53] <food> ActionParsnip, It crashed before backed up because i just started.
[13:53] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: i dont know where the correct file missing from the created usb stick would be located to copy it over
[13:54] <robbie> is there a general resource on .desktop files? like the files discussed here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/108060/is-it-possible-to-add-custom-items-to-system-settings-window
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu#Xubuntu_12.04_LTS     states 5 years
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: type a few letters of the folder name and hit tab,if a match exists it will be autocompleted
[13:56] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: i dont understand how this would help with a missing file
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: then the ISO is corrupted
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: wait, you are right. My bad
[13:56] <LucidGuy> ActionParsnip, http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/   first line of 12.04 description
[13:56] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: the md5sum matches with the ones for the release versions
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: then what are you MD5 testing?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: Lubuntu 12.04 isn't even ay LTS :( sad times
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> *any
[13:58] <blackshirt> LucidGuy: lts or not was not so important until you want support from canonical :D
[13:58] <food> ActionParsnip, have you ever tried Ubuntu for at least 24 hours with opened few windows?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> food: sure, my server systems stay up for weeks and get all kinds of apps ran on them.
[13:58] <food> ActionParsnip, Desktop?
[13:59] <guang_> how to install gstreamer 1.02 on ubuntu 10.04??
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> food: yes, LXDE on one, my laptop is powered off at night
[13:59] <LucidGuy> blackshirt, Im not interested in Canonical support..  I am interested in their repos keeping their software patched and upgrade for the entire 5 years
[13:59] <theuns> Any have a Dell Inspiron 5720 with wireless working?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> !find gstreamer0.10
[14:00] <food> ActionParsnip, What is your Laptop Model?
[14:00] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: i am on ubuntu 12.04.1 i368 desktop, downloaded the ubuntu-12.04.1-server-i386.iso checked its md5, used the startup media creator to create an live usb drive without errors, mounted it and issued md5sum -c md5sum.txt in its root directory. there are 3 files missing from it, they simply are not there. thats my problem, how do i create an correct usb stick from the iso
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> food: Dell Lat D420
[14:00] <blackshirt> LucidGuy: yes, you get them :D
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> theuns: what wifi chip does it use?
[14:00] <blackshirt> LucidGuy: just do regular updates for your apt databases, and fetch the patch update you want
[14:01] <rsv> i use the latest 12.04 lts, when i drag my mouse on the top of the screen i get FILE, EDIT, ... which is essentially the task bar, it vanishes when the mouse is taken off, how to permanently enable them
[14:01] <theuns> ActionParsnip: with lshw i get product: Broadcom Corporation
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> guang_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gstreamer0.10&searchon=names&suite=lucid&section=all    take your pick....
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> theuns: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[14:01] <food> ActionParsnip, Well, my laptop is Dell xps L502x ....
[14:02] <theuns> ActionParsnip: precise
[14:02] <tyler_d1> why does the title bar not update when you ssh somewhere in 64 ubuntu 12.04?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | theuns
[14:03] <n00bie> Does anyone here know how i can create an installer usb stick from ubuntu-12.04.1-server-i386.iso?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> theuns: I recommend you get a wired connection and get updated, you can also install the driver much easier
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: did you try unetbootin?
[14:03] <guang_> ActionParsnip:It is all about 0.10,not the version 1.0
[14:03] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: yes it does not support that verion of ubuntu
[14:03] <theuns> ActionParsnip: the machine is wired, did all updates, but still no joy
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> guang_: then try a PPA
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> theuns: did you run:  gksudo jockey
[14:04] <vfw> n00bie: what files were missing?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: it doesn't support the server ISO?
[14:04] <theuns> ActionParsnip: no, will do so
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> theuns: read the link ubottu gave please, it also shows how you can install it in a terminal
[14:05] <guang_> ActionParsnip:where i can find the ppa?google?
[14:05] <theuns> ActionParsnip: ok, will do, what will gksudo jockey do?
[14:05] <Kartagis> question: if whereis tomcat7 gives me /etc/tomcat7/ and /usr/share/tomcat7, should I set TOMCAT_HOME to the former or the latter? there is also a /usr/share/tomcat7-root/
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | guang_
[14:07] <n00bie> vfw, ActionParsnip these files are missing with the usb creator from the correcponding desktop verion     http://paste.ubuntu.com/1323624/
[14:08] <vfw> n00bie: How did you get that output?
[14:08] <vfw> n00bie: What command?
[14:09] <n00bie> vfw i mounted the finished new usb stick, cd into its root and executed md5sum -c md5sum.txt
[14:09] <theuns> ActionParsnip: I did run gksudo jockey, but does not look like something happend?
[14:10] <n00bie> vfw it runs fine until the end part of it which is the paste in question
[14:10] <n00bie> vfw there are similar bugs around http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> theuns: again, read the link
[14:11] <n00bie> vfw thats why i tried to use the correspondung desktop verion of 12.04.1 but it didnt help.
[14:12] <vfw> n00bie: Did you use an ISO or a CD when you created the USB ?
[14:12] <n00bie> vfw md5 checked iso
[14:13] <robbie> how do you take a screen cap
[14:14] <ewook> robbie: you press print screen?
[14:14] <n00bie> vfw i read somewhere i could just dd the iso to the usb block device, just not sure if thats the right method for the boot loader
[14:14] <theuns> ActionParsnip: Article in the link suggest to run lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 to get the chipset. The output i get is
[14:14] <theuns> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation Device [14e4:4365] (rev 01)
[14:14] <theuns> Does not tell me what chipset? Only its broadcom
[14:14] <robbie> ewook thanks -- for some reason it wasnt working
[14:14] <n00bie> vfw didnt try that yet
[14:14] <robbie> ooo
[14:14] <wols> theuns: the PCI ID does: 14e4:4365
[14:14] <robbie> how do you take a screen cap when you have a menu open?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> robbie: import ~/screenshot.png      you can draw a box around the area. You need imagemagick installing :)
[14:15] <robbie> but *when you have a menu open*?
[14:15] <robbie> like if I click an indicator and the menu below it opens
[14:15] <theuns> ActionParsnip: o, ok. Thanks, Did not realise that. :-[
[14:15] <wols> theuns: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:bDlzhwkWfowJ:www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci:14E4:4365-WIRELESS/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a
[14:15] <food> ActionParsnip, You sure that current ubuntu does support on Modern hardware?
[14:15] <food> Like Dell xps?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> food: should be fine
[14:16] <n00bie> vfw, ActionParsnip seems like either the release iso is broken, the usb startup media creator of it or both
[14:16] <theuns> ActionParsnip: So it looks like the driver is not available
[14:17] <girafee> @food it would be better to ask Dell to support Linux properly.
[14:17] <fusk> vfw, yesterday you asked me to make a pastebin of sudu fdisk -l. http://pastebin.com/BSMNEehG
[14:17] <Kartagis> question: if whereis tomcat7 gives me /etc/tomcat7/ and /usr/share/tomcat7, should I set TOMCAT_HOME to the former or the latter? there is also a /usr/share/tomcat7-root/
[14:18] <wols> Kartagis: dpkg -L <tomcat package>
[14:19] <nardev> Whose idea was this to change gnome in ubuntu? The worst thing they could do :( I don't see clear list of running apps, i don't know where to find installed apps.. HORRIBLE!!! Please help, how do i find list of my installed apps?
[14:19] <Kartagis> wols: I got lots of stuff
[14:19] <Kartagis> nardev: dpkg-query -l
[14:19] <greasegum> Anyone know what dmesg error "fail to flush all tx fifo queues' means?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: possibly a bad MD5 sum file. Are there any bugs reported?
[14:19] <nardev> Kartagis, what is that going to do?
[14:20] <wols> greasegum: sounds like some NIC error
[14:20] <Kartagis> nardev: it's going to list all your installed applications
[14:20] <jhonatan> :)
[14:20] <nardev> Kartagis, aha, ok, but i WANT TO BE ABLE TO CLICK ON MENU AND HAVE SHORTCUTS easly not like THIS.. this si HORROR :(
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: if you run:   export TOMCAT_HOME=/etc/tomcat7/      or whichever you need, does it worl
[14:20] <nikolam> Why aptitude is saying it does not have "super cow powers" ?? :))
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> nardev: kill the caps
[14:20] <nardev> Kartagis, it's ok, but i need it for regular use...
[14:20] <girafee> unity is childish, thats why i choose xfce.
[14:20] <robbie> can someone help me with a font problem?
[14:20] <robbie> can someone help me with a font problem? http://imgur.com/UrwKb
[14:20] <nardev> ActionParsnip, sorry
[14:21] <LucidGuy> Got me an older Ubuntu 8.10 server I would like to upgrade to 12.04.  Now in the indeal world I would back-up the system perform a fresh clean install .. and then restore all my apps/services/data.  Unfortunately that can be a pain.  Any recommended upgrade path?
[14:21] <food> ActionParsnip, girafee http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1969300 , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/993187 , Dell should make Hardware for linux ?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> nardev: install gnome-panel   log off and log in to the new session
[14:21] <nardev> ActionParsnip, lets see ...
[14:21] <greasegum> wols:: I'm only getting it on my school's network.
[14:21] <bekks> LucidGuy: 8.10->9.04->9.10->10.04->12.04
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> food: they pre-install the OS on some systems. They don't make specific hardware for Linux, they just use normal hardware  which is linux friendly
[14:21] <greasegum> wols:: meanwhile my ping times are highly erratic, sometimes not connecting at all, sometimes
[14:22] <bekks> Unfortunately, 9.04 and 9.10 arent supported anymore.
[14:22] <LucidGuy> bekks, Have you tried performing an upgrade path like that?  Sounds scarry .. as in Ill break things.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> bekks: glas 9.04 is dead tbh
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> LucidGuy  fresh install is less painful
[14:22] <food> girafee, Many peoples don't have this if they have Ubuntu 11.x ...
[14:22] <nardev> did anyone have an issue with skype on ubuntu, webcam shows image upside down.
[14:22] <bekks> ActionParsnip: I know :)
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: fresh install then restore data from backup
[14:23] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: possibly this one is related but its for 12.04 not 12.04.1   http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r
[14:23] <robbie> Im having a font problem on the panel -- please see http://imgur.com/UrwKb
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: could install 12.04  and not 12.04.1
[14:24] <vfw> n00bie: Try xorriso
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> robbie: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc   please
[14:25] <robbie> ActionParsnip: quantal
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: or install using the mini ISO then install the desktop ontop. Does the system use a switchable GPU?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> robbie: if you make a fresh Ubuntu user and log in there, is it ok?
[14:26] <girafee> @food if the hardware vendors decide to make open sourced, 99.9% of the hardware related issues should be over.
[14:26] <robbie> ActionParsnip: let me log into guest
[14:26] <n00bie> vfw you mean copy the files from the iso_ they arent there either
[14:26] <n00bie> ActionParsnip: is uses powervr sgx 530
[14:27] <vfw> n00bie: Oh, the iso is missing the files. I get it now... sorry.
[14:27] <vfw> n00bie: Myabe you can just remaster the ISO and add them.
[14:28] <n00bie> vfw its the release iso for the server 12.04.1 i368 idk where to get those missing files
[14:28] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: absolutely no idea if this is what I want, but I'm seeing what I want
[14:28] <food> girafee, Well, I love Linux. But If Linux(Ubuntu) does not support those kind hardware then there should be an option for Ubuntu ... right?
[14:28] <vfw> n00bie: from desktop version
[14:28] <food> girafee, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/993187/comments/19
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> n00bie: yes, its a switchable GPU, this causes a tonne of problems in Linux
[14:28] <nardev> Unity is THE WORST thing ubuntu has done. I used suse, mandrake and debian for almost 10 years, i haven't come across this horrible and not intuitive GUI yet!
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> nardev: you don't have to use it......
[14:29] <robbie> ActionParsnip: there is no indicator-messages at all for guest account .. the other account on this box isnt hardly used at all so i checked there and it has the same problem
[14:29] <nardev> ActionParsnip, gnome 3 also sucks :(
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> nardev: you don't have to use anything in Ubuntu, you can switch the apps out as you want
[14:29] <nardev> i have to use ubuntu but i HATE unity
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> nardev: there is an unsupported fork of Gnome2
[14:29] <vfw> nardev: Try xfce
[14:29] <jakey1> hi, I have a windows 7 computer which I dont have the password for is it possible to read the files in ubuntu?
[14:29] <DJones> nardev: There's always lxde, xfce, kde
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> nardev: again, you can use Ubuntu and not use Unity
[14:30] <nardev> ActionParsnip, i just hope there is no need for "horrible" way to adjust it.
[14:30] <Kartagis> nardev: you have the option to log in with GNOME
[14:30] <n00bie> vfw what you mean with remaster it? i dont want the desktop version, btw the desktop verion doesnt have this issue
[14:30] <girafee> @food, its not the os who support cutting edge hardwares. its the device manufactures who distribute drivers. how many devices is automatically detected by mswinXP?
[14:30] <Seveas> jakey1, unless the files or disk are encrypted, you can read it when booting ubuntu
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> jakey1: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/resetwindowspassword/
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> jakey1: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+reset+windows+password    too hard?
[14:30] <kristenbb> hi, can someone help me to solve my graphic card issue ? I just installed 12.04 multiple times, but I can't get the graphic card driver to work. It was working before I chose to reinstall 12.04. Now when ubuntu starts, I get this error: The system is running in low graphics mode. Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself.
[14:30] <n00bie> jakey1: yes
[14:31] <jakey1> so whats stopping someone stealing my laptop and getting all my info off it?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> nardev: its the way Ubuntu wants to take the Gnome desktop. The default shell for Gnome3 is Gnome shell which is also available
[14:31] <vfw> n00bie: mount the iso, add the files, create new iso from the mount.
[14:31] <LennyLinux> Guys i have win 8 on my machine and i think it doesn't let me boot from cd, so i'm not able to install ubuntu, how can i do?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> jakey1: physical access circumvents most security measures (but not all)
[14:32] <robbie> ActionParsnip: there is no indicator-messages at all for guest account .. the other account on this box isnt hardly used at all so i checked there and it has the same problem
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> LennyLinux: check BIOS
[14:32] <jakey1> ActionParsnip, physical acess?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> robbie: how about a new ubuntu user, not guest
[14:32] <food> girafee, Why Ubuntu 11.x is working ? Anyway, If it is bug of ubuntu then it is bug. And if ubuntu community would known where the problem is then they could fixed it. At this time i am just trying to make it little stable so i can work for long time.
[14:32] <fusk> did they fix the freezing after sleep for laptops in 12.10 ?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> jakey1: holding the device. Physically sittinig in front of and using the system as opposed to remote access over network.
[14:32] <LennyLinux> ActionParsnip: the bios is ok. I also pressed f12 and specified to boot from cd but the starts win 8.
[14:33] <nardev> ActionParsnip, two times i was listening Mark S. trying to explain that this is right move. I'm so sorry i don't see ti is :(
[14:33] <jakey1> ActionParsnip, so someone just steals my laptop?
[14:33] <LennyLinux> I think win 8 prevents to install other os.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> jakey1: yes
[14:33] <ewook> LennyLinux: on the same drive yes.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> LennyLinux: sounds like some EFI stuff which I've never had to mess with
[14:34] <ewook> Just go separate disk for each os ;).
[14:34] <christian67160> Entrez le texte ici...hello
[14:34] <ewook> and select disk to boot, and done.
[14:34] <christian67160> can someone help me
[14:34] <christian67160> sorry i dont speak good english ^^
[14:34] <christian67160> here is the error message
[14:34] <LennyLinux> That bastard.
[14:34] <LennyLinux> And now?
[14:34] <kristenbb> Can someone help me with my driver issue please ,
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: with details, maybe
[14:34] <robbie> ActionParsnip: just like the guest account -- he indicator-messages panel indicator doesnt even load
[14:35] <robbie> ActionParsnip: just like the guest account -- *the* indicator-messages panel indicator doesnt even load
[14:35] <LennyLinux> ewook: ActionParsnip what can i do now? Am i stuck? :D
[14:35] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: I just installed 12.04 multiple times, but I can't get the graphic card driver to work. It was working before I chose to reinstall 12.04. Now when ubuntu starts, I get this error: The system is running in low graphics mode. Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> LennyLinux: its not something I've used so therefore have no idea, maybe others can help
[14:35] <ewook> LennyLinux: I'd say go with leaving windows 8 on one drive :)
[14:36] <[Outcast]> I having a problem with MAAS, trying to commission a box but the timestamp  for oauth is off by 4 hours. Have modified the config to use a local time server I have setup but still no dice. Still always off by 4 hours. Any thoughts?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: why haven't you stated the video chip or make and model of the system? How can I possibly reply intelligently?
[14:36] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: sorry. The system is ubuntu 12.04. The graphic card is nvidia gtx 680
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: why did you not state that before?
[14:37] <robbie> ActionParsnip: just like the guest account -- the indicator-messages panel indicator doesnt even load
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1    and it should help
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> robbie: you said, 3 times
[14:38] <christian67160> w:gpg error:http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal release: the folowing signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not avaiable :NO-PUBKEY 83fba1751378b444 ????????????????
[14:38] <robbie> ActionParsnip: just wondering if you are reading me
[14:38] <christian67160> if someone know what to do
[14:38] <christian67160> ^^
[14:38] <christian67160> thank you
[14:38] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: How to add that boot option?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> christian67160: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 83fba1751378b444
[14:38] <blackshirt> christian67160: add the keyring to apt
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: why did you not add the 2nd lot of info the first time?
[14:38] <christian67160> will try this now ^^
[14:39] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: what are you talking about ?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: when you initially posted the question there was no detail, why did you not state the video chip and other useful details?
[14:39] <[Outcast]> is there another room for MAAS?
[14:40] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: The message was already a few lines long, I won't make a whole book to explain my problem, I thought this was good enough to get the conversation started
[14:40] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: besides i'm a newbie I don't know what info would be relevant
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: its cool, you can type huge lines
[14:40] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: does that really matter anyway?
[14:40] <n00bie> vfw: i found the missing files in the original iso file, just copied them over to the usb stick ... now the md5sum check completes without error, i just hope those files were the ment for usb sticks, idk why they were missing ...
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: you are having a display issue, so its very relevant
[14:40] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: now you know, so can you help me please ?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: please give full details in future, it speeds things up
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | kristenbb
[14:41] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: sure
[14:45] <fusk> did they fix the freezing after sleep for laptops in 12.10 ?
[14:46] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: so from what I understand, this is done through grub2 inn my case? I don't see the grub menu
[14:46] <skypce> hello , i have downloaded the unity-2d 5.12 source code, do you know what i need modify for use unity-2d-panel standalone?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: hold SHIFT at boot
[14:47] <robbie> ActionParsnip: I guess you had nothing else to say about it now that you know that it doesnt load in a new account ?
[14:47] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: still not seeing grub
[14:48] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: does it matter whether it's left or right shift, or both?
[14:48] <robbie> can someone help me with a font problem? http://imgur.com/UrwKb
[14:49] <robbie> can someone help me with a font problem with the panel? http://imgur.com/UrwKb
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: I use left. If you are booting the CD and you see the stickman screen. Press SPACE
[14:49] <robbie> its just that one indicator
[14:49] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: no I am  not using the cd, I have a ubuntu installtion.
[14:50] <robbie> Ill come back
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: then hold SHIFT at boot should do it, its the standard in Grub2
[14:50] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: I installed ubuntu 12.04 and I have problems with the graphic card driver.
[14:50] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: I tried it twice, didn't work.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: you can then press E and (e)dit grub and delete the:  quiet splash   and in the place add: nouveau.blacklist=1
[14:51] <jonjo> can anyone help with virsh routed networking?
[14:51] <christian67160> Thank you for the sudo apt-key adv --recv-key *********      works good
[14:52] <fr4zzle> hi
[14:52] <christian67160> thank you for the help for the apt key ^^
[14:52] <urur65> HOY
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> christian67160: if you add PPAs properly you don't have this issue
[14:53] <christian67160> now i have just 2 errors and then my ubuntu works again ^^
[14:53] <urur65> JUST INSTALLED NEW UBUNTU WHAT HAPPENDE TO THE START-MENU LIKE THINGY BEFORE
[14:53] <Touhou44> urur65: NO IDEA
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> !caps |urur65
[14:53] <christian67160> i have the old menu on ubuntu 12.10
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> urur65: take your finger off SHIFT
[14:53] <urur65> I INSTALLED Addition Drivers in software center then it doesnt appear in dashboard how do i run it
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> christian67160: install gnome-panel and log off then log into the new session
[14:53] <fr4zzle> i had a windows 7/ubuntu dual boot and installed windows 8. now i dont get the boot screen to boot into ubuntu. is it possible to recover?
[14:54] <christian67160> it's classic menu indicator
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> fr4zzle: you'll need to boot to Ubuntu liveCD and reinstall Grub to the MBR
[14:54] <fr4zzle> ok. is that pretty straight forward?
[14:54] <urur65> how do you run something u installed in software center but doesnt appear in Dash board
[14:55] <anarchy911_> hello
[14:55] <anarchy911_> i'm new here
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> fr4zzle: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> anarchy911howdy
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> urur65: gksudo jockey
[14:55] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: it doesn't work, I tried 5 times, holding or pressing or doing multiple tries, grub is still not showing
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> urur65: may be:   gksudo jockey
[14:56] <christian67160> i think i have a wrong sources.list too have 2errors when i open update-manager
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> christian67160: can you pastebin the output of:   sudo apt-get update
[14:56] <urur65> yes gksudo jockey works but i want to know how to gui-ly locate it
[14:56] <fr4zzle> cheers, ActionParsnip
[14:56] <christian67160> pastebin ?
[14:56] <christian67160> i neet do look on google ^^
[14:56] <urur65> like the old menu thingy in ubuntu
[14:56] <jpds> urur65: Look for "Drivers" in the Dash?
[14:57] <fr4zzle> will i need the same version of ununtu that i have installed?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> christian67160: use http://pastie.org   to host the text, when the page changes, copy the address bar and paste here
[14:57] <fr4zzle> im not sure what version i had, it was a while ago
[14:57] <urur65> drivers show no results
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> fr4zzle: just the same architecture
[14:57] <urur65> except songs and stuff
[14:57] <fr4zzle> k
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> urur65: once its installed, you don't need to worry about it
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> urur65: if you have an nvidia GPU you can sidestep the GUI app and run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current     and you don't even need the GUI app
[14:58] <urur65> how do i suppress jhas joined and has quit system messages here
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> urur65: what irc client do you use?
[14:59] <urur65> online, webchat.freenode.net
[14:59] <skypce> hello , i have downloaded the unity-2d 5.12 source code, do you know what i need modify for use unity-2d-panel standalone?
[14:59] <padhu> anybody guide me how can i enable mic in pidgin?
[14:59] <Touhou44> urur65: Click the top left button, go to options, check "Hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS:"
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> padhu: does it work in sound recorder?
[15:00] <padhu> ActionParsnip: yes, working....
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> skypce: unity needs at least compiz to run. It won't run standalone
[15:01] <Touhou44> I thought Unity 2D just needed Qt?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> padhu: I use pidgin but never used sound with it
[15:01] <urur65> ActionParsnip: gksudo jockey, nothing happens
[15:01] <urur65> o.O
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Touhou44: Qt is an app framework
[15:01] <skypce> ActionParsnip,  i have a desktop like pear os 6 (with elementary gala and unity-2d-panel as panel) the problem is when logout or reboot machine it takes so much time about 30 seconds in begin to reboot
[15:01] <blazemore> urur65: Try "sudo jockey"
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> urur65: what video chip do you use?
[15:01] <padhu> ActionParsnip: But i need it, because, i always using pidgin
[15:02] <Touhou44> ActionParsnip: I know what Qt is...
[15:02] <jonjo> can anyone help with virsh routed networking?
[15:02] <urur65> nothing happens in sudo jockey either
[15:02] <vaurdan> hey guys, i'm having a huge troble with my ubuntu, with ambiance theme, after a update, when I right click the menu is gray, and ugly and hard to read... anyone can help me?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> urur65: what video chip do you use?
[15:02] <urur65> amd
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> urur65: which one!?
[15:03] <skypce> i need modify unity-2d source code for dont check if unity-2d-shell is open or close when reboot :S
[15:03] <urur65> radeon hd 4250
[15:03] <urur65> k found addition drivers but it cant detect my graphic card
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> urur65: are you using Quantal?
[15:04] <urur65> what is quantal?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> urur65: run:  lsb_release -sc     what is output please?
[15:04] <urur65> dash > system settings > display states that my graphics is "unknown"
[15:04] <jakey1> hi, If I had a mac which I dont have the password for is it possible to read the files in ubuntu?
[15:05] <vaurdan> hey guys, i'm having a huge troble with my ubuntu, with ambiance theme, after a update, when I right click the menu is gray, and ugly and hard to read... Also the applications' sub menu are gray... anyone can help me?
[15:05] <christian67160> pastebin.com/16Ea6mE7
[15:05] <urur65> lsb_release -sc : quantal
[15:05] <vaurdan> I really don't want to reinstall ubuntu, again...
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> urur65: you'll want this then http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[15:05] <tvw> What have I done? I typed something wrong I guess (key-area: return, shift, control, arrows ...) and after that my gnome session vanished very very quickly and I had to login again. This happend the fifth time, but I am still so surprised, that I cannot follow, what I did and what really happend.
[15:06] <Touhou44> jakey1: Yes, Linux can read HFS+ filesystems
[15:06] <urur65> legacy? does that mean no future support for my gpu nymore
[15:07] <vaurdan> hey guys, i'm having a huge troble with my ubuntu, with ambiance theme, after a update, when I right click the menu is gray, and ugly and hard to read... Also the applications' sub menu are gray... anyone can help me?
[15:09] <jakey1> Touhou44,  can you recomment a tutorial or website on the matter
[15:09] <Touhou44> vaurdan: Do you have a screenshot? I had an issue like that before where the particular user didn't have access to the theme files
[15:09] <christian67160> pastie.org/5166992
[15:10] <mrm2m> Kennt sich hier jemand mit C aus? ;-)
[15:10] <mrm2m> http://pastebin.com/rAi1Qn3s
[15:10] <mrm2m> Ich würde gerade dedebuggen, warum mein Programm läuft.
[15:10] <Touhou44> jakey1: There's a wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus Does Ubuntu not automount the HFS disk?
[15:10] <mrm2m> doh! Wrong window - sorry
[15:10] <vaurdan> Touhou44, i'm having troubles screenshooting with the menus open, let me try another software
[15:10] <blackshirt> how to force-overwrite when installing packages with apt-get ?
[15:10] <blackshirt> hello
[15:10] <jakey1> I didnt try yet
[15:11] <blackshirt> how to force-overwrite when installing packages with apt-get ?
[15:11] <jakey1> Touhou44, tahnsk for the link
[15:12] <vaurdan> Touhou44, just take a picture with my smartphone, sending you the link in few seconds
[15:12] <dr_willis> blackshirt: you may want to post the exact error messages. ï dint recall any force overwrite options
[15:13] <vaurdan> Touhou44, this is the problem I'm having: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzFNC7jET0aib21zMkRiem05QnM any ideias?
[15:13] <SirScott> wc
[15:14] <blackshirt> dr_willis: trying to overwrite '/bla/bla' which is also in packages firmware-linux-free 3.1
[15:15] <syskk> what's the terminology for packages that simply install other packages?
[15:15] <vaurdan> Touhou44, this is the problem I'm having: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzFNC7jET0aib21zMkRiem05QnM any ideias?
[15:15] <Lorra> syskk, are you talking about metapackages?
[15:15] <jrib> syskk: metapackage
[15:16] <Touhou44> vaurdan: I'm not sure, possibly bug which I'd report
[15:16] <vaurdan> Touhou44, I also recently had a bug with Volume slider, with replaced text to VOLUME, and that made me change to Gnome 3.6
[15:18] <padhu> I think, i enabled Voice in Pidgin, using Voice&video plug-in
[15:18] <vaurdan> Touhou44, https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzFNC7jET0aiRHk3bXhmaWgtbW8 <- see? I'm soooo close to reinstall Ubuntu 12.10... Since I've upgraded to 12.10, I only had troubles...
[15:19] <Touhou44> vaurdan: Ubuntu 12.10 is a little buggy in places I agree
[15:19] <vaurdan> My first bug was with the NVIDIA graphics... and now this
[15:20] <blackshirt> dr_willis: solved this with --force-overwrite to dpkg
[15:20] <vaurdan> Well, time to reinstall Ubuntu, right Touhou44 ?
[15:21] <Touhou44> I don't know if that's a solution, that's what Windows users tend to do. If there are bugs in the software you're using, they'll still be there after a reinstall
[15:22] <zoktar> so i have been tracking down some strange issues, and i found one of my ppa's contained a tons of related packages, i would like to remove the ppa and restore the original packages. How do i do that without getting cought in a massive chain removal of dependancys etc?.
[15:22] <vaurdan> I didn't had any of those issues when I fresh installed Ubuntu 12.10, so I belive (or I hope) that this bugs don't be here...
[15:23] <rephy222> hey does anyone know about the etc/hosts file
[15:23] <rephy222> and blocking specific webpages
[15:24] <blazemore> rephy222: Yes
[15:24] <blazemore> Just add a line in it like this
[15:24] <rephy222> ok well i know the basics of it and it works rather well
[15:24] <blazemore> 127.0.0.1 gawker.com
[15:24] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello All.  I have just upgraded my Ubuntu VM from 12.04 to 12.10.  The first thing I notice is that Ubuntu feels more sluggish.  Then I notice that after a fresh boot, it's sitting on 600 megs of ram.  This is almost double what 12.04 seemed to need after a fresh boot.  Any ideas? Does 12.10 just want more memory?
[15:25] <jrib> Cajun_Lan_Man: check what's using the memory
[15:25] <rephy222> but i was wondering if i could add something like 127.0.0.1 www.*google*.com
[15:25] <blazemore> Cajun_Lan_Man: Install and run htop
[15:25] <fusk> hm, seems like they didn't fix the freezing.
[15:25] <Cajun_Lan_Man> jrib, compiz is taking the most, a little over 200 meg.
[15:25] <rephy222> say i wanted to block any website with google anywhere in it
[15:26] <blazemore> rephy222: For more complicated things you need something like dnsmasq
[15:26] <blazemore> rephy222: Take a look here for more information: http://serverfault.com/questions/118378/in-my-etc-hosts-file-on-linux-osx-how-do-i-do-a-wildcard-subdomain
[15:26] <ngt> i am trying to run a program called "Unicenta oPos" but i keep getting this error " There was an error launching the application Detail: Failed to execute child process "/home/ngt/sh" (No such file or directory)
[15:26] <zoktar> found it, ppa-purge
[15:26] <rephy222> the reason i ask is cause the hosts file can get rather big
[15:28] <|Anthony|> trying to use Cheese. launched from the cli it says: GLib-GObject-WARNING **: value "32768" of type `gint' is invalid or out of range for property `video-capture-width' of type `gint'
[15:28] <|Anthony|> same for height
[15:28] <|Anthony|> is there a config file somewhere i can edit? what's going on here?
[15:29] <rumpe1> |Anthony|, it's a warning... nothing more, nothing less... probably nothing serious
[15:29] <fusk> Is there any newer solutions then switching to uswsusp
[15:29] <jason_> net
[15:29] <ngt> anyone?
[15:29] <fusk> for the freezing issue, or is switching to a fedora distro the only solution?
[15:30] <fusk> or
[15:30] <|Anthony|> rumpe1, well it's followed by: WARNING **: Device '/dev/video0' cannot capture at 32767x32767
[15:30] <|Anthony|> and WARNING **: Could not negotiate format
[15:30] <cant-install-ubu> Hi guys. I have the following question. I am currently running a Sony Vaio 13.3 ultrabook (http://store.sony.com/laptop/Custom-Sony-VAIO-Ultrabook-13.3-T-Series/SVT131190X-Standard/en/vaio/8198552921666454150) which has two hidden drives - a HDD and 32GB SSD. For some reason, not a single OS can recognize them during installation, although I've successfully mounted and formatted them.
[15:30] <|Anthony|> and in cheese there is no capture device and all options are grayed out
[15:30] <dr_willis>  ngt dirty thing to try. make a link from sh to the one it wants..
[15:30] <rumpe1> |Anthony|, again just a warning. Linux applications are often somewhat "chatty" if you launch them from terminal.
[15:30] <Cajun_Lan_Man> blazemore, compiz is clearly the culprit. Just not sure why the change.
[15:31] <blazemore> Cajun_Lan_Man: They discontinued Unity 2D, it might be something to do with that
[15:31] <|Anthony|> rumpe1, yes, but there it isn't working. which is why i launched it from terminal... to see what it was complaining about.
[15:32] <cant-install-ubu> Hi guys. I have the following question. I am currently running a Sony Vaio 13.3 ultrabook (http://store.sony.com/laptop/Custom-Sony-VAIO-Ultrabook-13.3-T-Series/SVT131190X-Standard/en/vaio/8198552921666454150) which has two hidden drives - a HDD and 32GB SSD. For some reason, not a single OS can recognize them during installation, although I've successfully mounted and formatted them.
[15:32] <kristenbb> I just installed a new system. If I want to retrieve my whole firefox settings (add ons, icon location, history, bookmarks, about:config, ...), do I just need to delete the current .mozilla and copy the .mozilla folder from the old system to the  new one, or do I need to do something else, or will that not work ?
[15:33] <cant-install-ubu> Is there a way to install Ubuntu on any of those drives? I believe they're locked in the EFI bios
[15:33] <cri> lookin for someone who knows lubuntu 1210
[15:33] <dr_willis> kristenbb: ive done that beforr. keep a spare copy of the original directory also
[15:33] <shadab> Ya tel me
[15:34] <kristenbb> dr_willis: so that will work?
[15:34] <ngt> dr_willis: i am quite a newbie on ubuntu so i am not following by what you exactly mean?
[15:34] <smooh> hello
[15:34] <kristenbb> dr_willis: why should I keep a spare of the original directory ?
[15:34] <dr_willis> kristenbb: it has in the past.
[15:34] <dr_willis> ff has a sync feature i use these days.
[15:34] <smooh> need a channel for noobs like me so i ask questions
[15:34] <cri> not found a guide (italian!) to personalize desktop like simple shoutdown on panel and other
[15:35] <dr_willis> in case ff resets somthing kristenbb
[15:35] <Erik_D> smooh: this is the channel, just ask
[15:35] <Linkandzelda> does anyone know of a Quick Look like thing for ubuntu/linux?
[15:36] <dr_willis> quicklook does what Linkandzelda
[15:36] <Linkandzelda> there's a built in thing?
[15:36] <Linkandzelda> o-o
[15:37] <piecemkr> hello people
[15:37] <cant-install-ubu> So, I take it no one has the knowledge how to install the damn thing on hidden drives...
[15:37] <smooh> hello guys
[15:37] <cant-install-ubu> I thought everyone is a genius here
[15:37] <dr_willis> cant-install-ubu: i dont see how they are hidden..
[15:37] <dr_willis> uf yiu can mount them...
[15:38] <smooh> do any of u guys knows how to expand the hard disk of a virtual machine in ubuntu?
[15:38] <cant-install-ubu> well, they are hidden
[15:38] <vaurdan> Anyone knows ho to solve this? https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzFNC7jET0aib21zMkRiem05QnM :(
[15:38] <cant-install-ubu> i ican mount them, they are mounted alright
[15:38] <cant-install-ubu> just the GUI install app cant see them ?!?!
[15:38] <dr_willis> smooh: vbox and vmware i recall have tools to do that..
[15:38] <cant-install-ubu> it is crazy
[15:38] <jonjo> anyone able to help with virsh networking on ubuntu 12.04?
[15:39] <dr_willis> cant-install-ubu:  that dosent  mean they are 'hidden'
[15:39] <cant-install-ubu> EFI controlled at all times then, I dont know
[15:40] <vaurdan> Anyone knows how to solve this? https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzFNC7jET0aib21zMkRiem05QnM :(
[15:40] <cant-install-ubu> never seen such thing before
[15:40] <dr_willis> cant-install-ubu:  seen people in here with similer issues all the time. but in most cases its b3cause they got 4 primary partitons allready
[15:40] <cant-install-ubu> dr_willis, the only way I could mount them was via Terminal. GUI file manager failed crying for lack of privilege or something
[15:41] <smooh> dr willis: i use virtual box and im kinda stuck
[15:41] <Erik_D> vaurdan: what does the text mean?
[15:41] <vaurdan> Erik_D it's my language(Portuguese). The problem is the Ambiance style of my menus
[15:41] <dr_willis> cant-install-ubu:  what device does mount/fdisk say they are?
[15:41] <vaurdan> even the damn application menus are like that
[15:41] <piecemkr> cant-install-ubu: gksu nautilus
[15:42] <cant-install-ubu> what is gksu nautilus
[15:42] <Erik_D> vaurdan: Hmm, have you tried messing with themes? That's all that comes to mind.
[15:42] <dr_willis> runs nautilus as root...
[15:42] <vaurdan> yes, every single theme I've on my computer have the same menu's issue :(
[15:42] <cant-install-ubu> drives are formatted, so no partitions there
[15:42] <Cantide> gk is used for graphical applications, right?
[15:43] <dr_willis> err.. if they are formated they are partioned...
[15:43] <Erik_D> cant-install-ubu:  gksu is a graphical "sudo"
[15:43] <dr_willis> pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l   may help us
[15:43] <Erik_D> vaurdan: never seen that :/
[15:43] <theos> hello! i ran xoscope and now my headphones arent working. laptop speakers are working fine. what can be the problem?
[15:44] <vaurdan> Erik_D, Yup, is it very weird :( I'm now backing up everything and getting ready for a reinstall...
[15:44] <Erik_D> vaurdan: try reinstalling your display manager before taking the nuclear route
[15:44] <dr_willis> vaurdan:  even a newly made user has the same issue?
[15:45] <cant-install-ubu> Nautilus could not create the required folder "/root/.config/nautilus"
[15:45] <cant-install-ubu> some kind of permissions issue
[15:45] <vaurdan> Erik_D, how can I do that?
[15:45] <vaurdan> dr_willis, going to try that
[15:45] <robbie> can someone help me with an indicator? only this one indicator is broken -- see this image http://imgur.com/UrwKb
[15:45] <dr_willis> cant-install-ubu:  pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l   may help us
[15:45] <Erik_D> vaurdan: are you using gnome?
[15:45] <k1l> cant-install-ubu: because the user-nautilus hastn permissions in /
[15:45] <Erik_D> unity?
[15:46] <k1l> cant-install-ubu: wait, you are running a root-xsession?
[15:46] <vaurdan> Erik_D right now I'm on Unity, but I use gnome on my daily usage
[15:46] <cant-install-ubu> I am running a live USB
[15:46] <vaurdan> dr_willis, but I guess it's not a user related problem... LightDM also have that glitch
[15:46] <dr_willis> vaurdan:  that would point to a system type issue yes...
[15:47] <piecemkr> cant-install-ubu: sudo mkdir /root/.config/nautilus
[15:47] <Erik_D> vaurdan: I think : sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm & sudo apt-get install gdm
[15:47] <Erik_D> would do it?
[15:47] <vaurdan> I'm also suffering the problem that robbie told (<robbie> can someone help me with an indicator? only this one indicator is broken -- see this image http://imgur.com/UrwKb)
[15:48] <vaurdan> Erik_D, i'm going to try that :)
[15:48] <cant-install-ubu> how do i select and copy terminal?
[15:48] <Erik_D> vaurdan: Please use common sense, I could be wrong
[15:48] <Erik_D> ctrl-shift-c/v
[15:48] <tomatto> hi
[15:48] <tomatto> please, in main repositories is not midnight commander?
[15:48] <Erik_D> cant-install-ubu: ^
[15:49] <blazemore> !info mc| tomatto
[15:49] <rephy222> blazemore: im not quite sure what the .py script does
[15:49] <blazemore> wait what how do I do package stuff
[15:49] <blazemore> rephy222: Sorry was that intended for me?
[15:49] <blazemore> !package mc
[15:50] <rephy222> blazemore: yea about the dns server thing...the link u sent me led me to a python script to use wildcards with the hosts file i think
[15:50] <OerHeks> !info mc
[15:50] <Cajun_Lan_Man> blazemore, you know, it might be.  More resources needed for the 3D.  Especially if it's being software rendered.
[15:50] <blazemore> rephy222: Oh IDK how to actually use it
[15:51] <blazemore> Cajun_Lan_Man: Yeah, if it's software rendering it will probably be sluggish
[15:51] <Cajun_Lan_Man> blazemore, any idea if there is a way to tell if Unity is being software or hardware rendered?
[15:51] <OerHeks> tomatto, sudo apt-get install mc
[15:51] <D4v1d___> hi any idea how to change from UEFI boot to BIOS boot on ubuntu server?
[15:51] <tomatto> OerHeks: it isn't install mc at all
[15:51] <cant-install-ubu> http://pastebin.com/jDJbhGsV
[15:51] <blazemore> Cajun_Lan_Man: Good question! I'm opening it to the floor. Does anyone know if you can tell if the graphics hardware is drawing unity?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> D4v1d___  there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:51] <rephy222> it was a good link i believe it may help im just a little unsure what it does and a little leary to use something i dont know how it works
[15:51] <cant-install-ubu> dr_willis, Erik_D - http://pastebin.com/jDJbhGsV
[15:52] <deadmund> blazemore: Are you seeing unity?
[15:52] <blazemore> deadmund: No, I'm not using Ubuntu. What that intended for me?
[15:53] <deadmund> blazemore: Does anyone know if you can tell if the graphics hardware is drawing unity?    in response to that question
[15:53] <Cajun_Lan_Man> deadmund, It was from a question I asked. I'm trying to find out if my install of 12.10 is using software rendering, or HW.
[15:53] <D4v1d___> thanks rephy222
[15:53] <deadmund> Cajun_Lan_Man: ohhh!  No, I'm not sure.
[15:54] <deadmund> Cajun_Lan_Man: What graphics card / driver?
 and i dont know how to expand the hard drive of the virtual machine without loosing the OS
[15:54] <Cajun_Lan_Man> deadmund, 12.10 is using twice the memory footprint, and feels sluggish after upgrading to 12.10, and I'm just trying to find out why.
[15:54] <fagioli> omg
[15:54] <fagioli> i jusy bought logitech t650
[15:54] <deadmund> Cajun_Lan_Man: Are you using radeon?
[15:54] <fagioli> works soooooo good in ubuntu
[15:55] <Cajun_Lan_Man> deadmund, This particular machine is a VMware VM. It suppored 3D hardware on 12.04, but that doesn't mean it's working in 12.10.
[15:55] <rephy222> D4v1d___  for?
[15:55] <Erik_D> That's *wonderful* fagioli
[15:55] <deadmund> Cajun_Lan_Man: I'm not sure then.
[15:55] <fagioli> Erik_D, lol
[15:55] <deadmund> Cajun_Lan_Man: Bit of a special case
[15:55] <fagioli> i just want people to know it works with multitouch
[15:55] <bekks> Cajun_Lan_Man: Twice the memory footprint is not true.
[15:55] <bekks> Cajun_Lan_Man: Not at all, to be honest.
[15:56] <Erik_D> fagioli: I'm actually a little surprised though, what with all the "it's for win 8!"
[15:56] <bekks> Besides the fact that RAM is there to be used, not to be left alone.
[15:56] <fagioli> Erik_D, in gnome 3, 3 finger swipe up is amazinf
[15:57] <fagioli> its going to change the way i usr the computer
[15:57] <Erik_D> fagioli: I have  tablet pc, unfortunately gnome 3 wasn't working that well, so I switched to xfce
[15:57] <Erik_D> kinda useless for touch
[15:57] <food> Hello there is no linux_headers_all.deb on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.6.5-raring/ ?
[15:57] <Cajun_Lan_Man> bekks,  What I mean is, I have 1 gig of ram allocated. Normally after a clean boot, 12.04 would be using about 350 megs of ram.  Now with 12.10, after a clean boot it's sitting on about 700 megs. That, combined with the fact that the machine is no longer "snappy" as it was with 12.04, I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.
[15:58] <OerHeks> food, join #ubuntu+1 for raring issues
[15:58] <area51> i set an NTFS partition to mount on startup and now its read-only .. how can i change the permissions to gain write access.  ROOT is currently the owner
[15:58] <cant-install-ubu> dr_willis, Erik_D - no luck again? Thank you for your time at least.
[15:58] <Cajun_Lan_Man> deadmund, It is a special case.  I'm upgrading a physical desktop install to 12.10 now, and I will see if it feels much snappier. Integrated Intel graphics on it, but only a couple of years old.
[15:58] <food> OerHeks, I am trying to install it on Ubuntu 12.04
[15:58] <fagioli> why is there so many problems with kernel 3.6.4 and 3.6.5?
[15:59] <OerHeks> food don't mix raring and quantal kernels.
[15:59] <food> Okay okay
[15:59] <nhanth91> hi
[15:59] <food> OerHeks, I am having same problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/203465/ubuntu-12-04-12-10-keeps-on-freezing , So trying to fix it somehow .
[16:00] <dr_willis> cant-install-ubu: all your hds are partioned with fat32 or ntfd.. id delete the partions on the hds you want to use and leave them unallocated, then reboot the installer
[16:00] <Cajun_Lan_Man> deadmund, See, after a fresh boot of 12.10 on the physical desktop, it's only sitting on 400 megs of ram.  That's making me wonder if it's hardware accelerated, verses software rendering on the VM.
[16:01] <cant-install-ubu> dr_willis, already tried that but without reboot
[16:01] <blazemore> area51: /dev/sda2 /win7 ntfs-3g defaults,user,noauto,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022 0 0
[16:02] <dr_willis> cant-install-ubu: then the system may have been using the old partition layout still...
[16:02] <cant-install-ubu> ok, will try it now
[16:03] <Cajun_Lan_Man> blazemore, I just found a place in VMware Workstation that shows me hardware accelerated graphics are NOT being used any more.  That answers my question.
[16:03] <food> OerHeks, Is it safe to compile the source from kernel.org?
[16:04] <area51> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1323935/   its the /media/sda3 partition
[16:04] <pqatsi> Someone got slowdown with Radeon 200M with new ubuntu quantal?
[16:04] <pqatsi> I got this issue (Terrible slowdown in composition plus high cpu usage) using Unity and even cinnamon. I have a Radeon 200M
[16:05] <pqatsi> But if i ran a gnome-terminal and inside it i open metacity, everything backs to normal.
[16:05] <pqatsi> But Xorg.0.log dont report any error
[16:05] <pqatsi> Someone have idea how i can report this?
[16:09] <area51> blazemore:  should ( /media/Data  ntfs  nls=iso8859-1,ro,umask=000    0  0 ) nls=iso8859-1,ro be replaced with utf8?
[16:10] <danielefire> ciao
[16:10] <danielefire> !list
[16:13] <Cajun_Lan_Man> deadmund, blazemore, Problem solved.  After re-enabling HW rendering on the VM, my CPU usage at idle is back down in the single digits, memory usage is back down, and Ubuntu is quite snappy again.  This did teach me one thing.  Software rendered Unity 3D is a bit of a pig. Something I will try my best to avoid.
[16:13] <cant-install-ubu> dr_willis, well, that didn't work either :)
[16:13] <deadmund> Cajun_Lan_Man: awesome! :)
[16:13] <cant-install-ubu> now, they're unallocated, yet installer can't see them :(
[16:13] <deadmund> Cajun_Lan_Man: I didn't think there'd be a GUI checkbox for that
[16:15] <Cajun_Lan_Man> The setting is in VMware Workstation, under the display options.  It was set to "automatically detect" for video hardware acceleration. Apparently something about 12.10 had turned it off.  I just set it to manual, turned it on, and voilà.
[16:15] <Cajun_Lan_Man> deadmund, thanks for the help though.
[16:15] <deadmund> Cajun_Lan_Man: sure
[16:18] <blazemore> How can I echo on bash without newline
[16:18] <cant-install-ubu> dr_willis, you know what else is interesting, even Windows 8 can't see those drives during installation. Damn...
[16:20] <robbie> can someone help me with an indicator? only this one indicator is broken -- see this image http://imgur.com/UrwKb
[16:23] <robbie> is no one here?
[16:24] <blazemore> Yes, but nobody knows the answer to your question
[16:24] <robbie> it was just a very strange quiet
[16:24] <reCAPTCHA> Hi. I want to extend a partition into the free space on my hard drive... I am using Disk Utility... the free space is to the LEFT of the partition and it is within an "Extended" container.
[16:24] <jrib> blazemore: « man echo » :)  (-n is the answer)
[16:24] <blazemore> jrib: Yeah I found -n, thanks
[16:27] <SirScott> will the 12.04.1 LTS server install guide me through creating a raid+lvm install, or should I just take of that first before starting the install?
[16:27] <blazemore> reCAPTCHA: You need to move the partition to the left, and then expand it to fill the new space on the right. Use gParted to achieve this, from a, Ubuntu liveCD, or the Parted Magic liveCD
[16:27] <jonas-k> hello  .  how to  save changes in  etc/bash.bashrc   ?  because i can't save system  said i'm  not owner .. hmmmm
[16:27] <blazemore> jonas-k: You need to open it as root
[16:27] <jrib> jonas-k: what changes?
[16:28] <jonas-k> no  is not working  at all
[16:28] <blazemore> jonas-k: How are you opening the file to edit? And what error do you get?
[16:28] <reCAPTCHA> blazemore: I have an "unalcated" partition nex to my Ubuntu partition.. I want to expand the Ubuntu partition into that space so that there is only one continuous partition on the drive... and I want to do this would breaking grub or losing data.
[16:28] <reCAPTCHA> :-/
[16:28] <jonas-k> i'm  badly added PATH    /home/....../bin
[16:28] <blazemore> reCAPTCHA: You need to move the partition to the left, and then expand it to fill the new space on the right. Use gParted to achieve this, from a, Ubuntu liveCD, or the Parted Magic liveCD
[16:29] <jrib> jonas-k: you wanted to add ~/bin to your path?
[16:29] <jonas-k> yes but now i want to deleted what i add but can't
[16:30] <jrib> jonas-k: right, well you don't need to edit /etc/bash.bashrc to add ~/bin to your path.  That happens automatically by default if ~/bin exists.  Anyway, what exactly are you executing?
[16:30] <blakes> Want to install Game Editor for all users.  The installation instructions is just single user. Anyone get this to work as a shared application?
[16:30] <reCAPTCHA> blazemore: Sigh... yes... I know that... HOW do you move it to the left when there is an allocated partition occupying that space. :-/
[16:31] <blazemore> reCAPTCHA: You have to delete that partition
[16:31] <jonas-k> i add PATH=PATH:/home/jonas-k/bin            but i did a mistake so  can't fix that
[16:31] <jrib> jonas-k: what are you executing to try to change it?
[16:32] <jonas-k> nano ..  gedit
[16:32] <reCAPTCHA> blazemore: I did... it's just "unallocated" space that I cannot expand into. Maybe becauseof the extended container?
[16:33] <blazemore> reCAPTCHA: Now you need to move the partition to the left
[16:33] <jonas-k> jonas-k@jonas-k:~$ su
[16:33] <jonas-k> Command 'su' is available in '/bin/su'
[16:33] <jonas-k> The command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[16:33] <jonas-k> su: command not found
[16:33] <jonas-k> jonas-k@jonas-k:~$
[16:33] <FloodBot1> jonas-k: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <jrib> jonas-k: do this: /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/nano /etc/bash.bashrc
[16:34] <reCAPTCHA> blazemore: Yes... I know... but it will not let me... I click "resize" and it shows no space to the left to expand into.
[16:34] <meegooo> i want to append specific name to server
[16:35] <meegooo> to ip
[16:35] <meegooo> is it in /etc/resolve.conf ?
[16:35] <blazemore> meegooo: No, /etc/hosts
[16:35] <meegooo> thans
[16:36] <blazemore> you're welome
[16:36] <juztus>  (UNIX) ubuntu-7.04 does anyone still have old version on powerpc?
[16:36] <jonas-k> jrib   thnks   it helps ..
[16:36] <reCAPTCHA> Ah... I needed to turn swap off.
[16:40] <linux4u> swapon swapoff two great commands
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> juztus  that's a yes/no question... what brings you here?
[16:40] <linux4u> sorry my ppc died but it was running 10.4 when it died.
[16:41] <IdleOne> juztus: oldreleases.ubuntu.com
[16:42] <IdleOne> juztus: sorry that should be http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[16:44] <email9541> Hi
[16:44] <[TiZ]> Hi. I have Xubuntu 12.10 on my work box, and in many GTK applications, I can't highlight anything. In GEdit and Zim, the highlight doesn't even appear, and in XFCE terminal, the highlight appears and disappears when I release the mouse button.
[16:44] <anusPotatoes> i used sudo grub-install /dev/sda and grub still cant detect windows 8 partition...theyre both on one hard drive
[16:44] <anusPotatoes> windows 8 and ubuntu 12.04 that is
[16:45] <blazemore> anusPotatoes: Try running "sudo update-grub"
[16:45] <email9541> Anybody know how can I use java on android?
[16:45] <blazemore> I don't think you can? Try #android
[16:45] <blazemore> !offtopic | email9541
[16:46] <IdleOne> anusPotatoes: sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[16:46] <blazemore> IdleOne: Nice one, I'm remembering that
[16:46] <fotographix> Anyone out there ever try to remove onboard nvidia card with a PCI nvidia card running 12.04lts?
[16:47] <email9541> where can I try an answer for my question
[16:47] <email9541> ????
[16:47] <IdleOne> email9541: #android
[16:47] <anusPotatoes> os-prober seemed to recognize windows 8 loader but grub-update didnt seem to include windows 8
[16:47] <meegooo> my ubuntu server doesn't allow to ssh to it !!?
[16:48] <email9541> ????
[16:48] <meegooo> it says wrong password,
[16:48] <blazemore> email9541: Try #android
[16:48] <blazemore> email9541: Instead of #ubuntu
[16:48] <meegooo> please try again
[16:48] <email9541> Thx
[16:48] <blazemore> meegooo: What command are you running to ssh into it? The syntax is "ssh username@server"
[16:48] <meegooo> blazemore:  ssh mtnm@myip
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> meegooo  be sure caps is not set or so
[16:48] <blazemore> meegooo: If you don't specify a username it will try to log in with the same username you're currently using
[16:49] <blazemore> meegooo: And there is definitely an "mtnm" user on that server?
[16:49] <meegooo> blazemore:  yes
[16:49] <meegooo> blazemore: the server is beside me
[16:49] <meegooo> blazemore:  i've logged in
[16:49] <BluesKaj> fotographix, you enable the pci card in the bios , usually if you choose auto the pci nvidia card will become default , but choose pci in case auto doesn't work
[16:50] <blazemore> meegooo: Can you try "ssh -v mtnm@178.131.48.159" and paste the output into http://paste.timico.net
[16:50] <blazemore> or whatever the IP is
[16:51] <fotographix> wow thanks for the reply BluesKaj, I'm on my last leg, figured i would try IRC 1st time :( hate to say it, No I disabled it in BIOS and set it to PCI, which PCI is the new card, but it loads up and the onborad is still default and the new card is seen by NVIDIAsettings but is set to GPU1, XSCREENS=NONE
[16:51] <meegooo> blazemore:  let me try
[16:52] <fotographix> no auto option, only {Onborad, PCI PCIe}
[16:53] <[TiZ]> Hi. I can't select text in any way at all in pure GTK applications. Click/drag, shift+arrow, even ctrl+a, none of them work. What do I do to fix this? This is on my work box, and it completely cripples my ability to use my computer.
[16:55] <ttafred> guys im trying to build wine from source, im trying to dpendencies i need to know which should i go for, 1.5, 1.5-dev, 1.5-dbg, or 1.5-i386
[16:55] <blazemore> [TiZ]: Do you mean from a text field?
[16:55] <blazemore> ttafred: -dev
[16:55] <ttafred> from terminal
[16:56] <ttafred> blazemore why shoud i go for -dev, i think that means developer
[16:56] <f00dMonsta> if youre building, you need the dev packages
[16:56] <meegooo> blazemore:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1324071/
[16:56] <[TiZ]> blazemore: Yes, any kind of text field at all. Gedit, Zim, even the input box in XChat here.
[16:57] <ttafred> ok thanks i go do that now
[16:57] <Linkandzelda> is it recommended/ok to install and run Ubuntu from a USD external hdd?
[16:58] <cuore> hey  i just desactivated the unity panel from compiz-manager !! how can i get it back ?! the compiz-manager window is closed !
[16:58] <blazemore> Linkandzelda: It'll be slow
[16:58] <blazemore> cuore: Use control-alt-t to open a terminal
[16:58] <blazemore> cuore: Once you have a terminal open you can run compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:58] <blazemore> (I think it's ctrl+alt+t)
[16:58] <Linkandzelda> i dont want to erase my mac setup that i have, was just thinking of quicker soutions lol
[16:58] <tottto-drummond> Hello all. I need help with my wi-fi usb adaptor
[16:58] <BluesKaj> fotographix, ok run   in the terminal and look for the lines, renderer string and version string: .. that's your card and driver
[16:59] <BluesKaj> fotographix,  glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[17:00] <moondoggy> Hi there.  Anyone seen a pop-up saying "problem detected with program.  Enter password to report problem," or similar?
[17:00] <tottto-drummond> I need to get a Belkin wifi usb adaptor working with Ubuntu 12.10 can someone help me ?
[17:00] <cuore> b lazemore: it say compizconfig-manager : command not found
[17:00] <moondoggy> I'm suspicious that it's a virus.
[17:00] <blazemore> moondoggy: Yes when an application crashes, you can choose to submit a bug report. The password is needed to access system files which provide information to make the bug report more useful
[17:00] <blazemore> moondoggy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[17:01] <fotographix> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[17:01] <fotographix> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6150/integrated/SSE2
[17:01] <fotographix> OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 295.40
[17:01] <fotographix> OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
[17:01] <fotographix> OpenGL extensions:
[17:01] <FloodBot1> fotographix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <fotographix> this is the onboard card the new card shows in Nvidia settings as GPU1=GeForce 9400 GT I'm hoping this will be reflected
[17:01] <moondoggy> blazemore, thanks.  I never needed a password on other OS's.
[17:01] <blazemore> cuore: Once you have a terminal open you can run compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:01] <blazemore> moondoggy: I know, they're terrible aren't they
[17:01] <fotographix> sorry!
[17:01] <moondoggy> Also, the punctuation was weird like in all those emails from Nigeria.  :)
[17:01] <trism> cuore: the command name is ccsm, the package is compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:01] <blazemore> Is it?
[17:01] <lahwran> what's the best way to install proprietary ATI drivers? preferably a way where they're reasonably easy to uninstall
[17:01] <blazemore> trism: I'm sorry cuore - I thought it was the other way around
[17:02] <blazemore> lahwran: Using "jockey" the built-in driver tool in Ubuntu
[17:02] <PK> Hi.
[17:02] <lahwran> blazemore: is that going to install an up-to-date version?
[17:02] <blazemore> PK Hi. Nice nick
[17:02] <lahwran> that's always my worry using driver tools like that
[17:02] <blazemore> lahwran: probably. What's the result of "sudo apt-cache search fglrx" ?
[17:02] <PK> Thanks, those are just my initials. ;)
[17:02] <blazemore> !paste | lahwran
[17:02] <cuore> blazemore: trism   thanks a lot for your help
[17:02] <lahwran> I know how to paste, you don't have to jump on me like that :|
[17:03] <lahwran> however, it's on a different computer
[17:03] <PK> Is there a good way to learn PyGTK used for making Ubuntu apps?
[17:03] <blazemore> PK http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/index.html
[17:04] <lahwran> blazemore: apt-cache show fglrx says that it's only version 8.960
[17:04] <PK> blazemore No, that ain't a good one. I need something better... like Codecademy?
[17:04] <moondoggy> blazemore, Weird.  That page tells me that it shouldn't be running on my machine, and the pop-up looks different.
[17:04] <moondoggy> Am I just paranoid?
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> PK  start here http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[17:05] <PK> MonkeyDust Already installed Quickly and learnt all its features. Just need to learn PyGTK.
[17:05] <blazemore> PK try asking in #python
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> PK  http://zetcode.com/gui/pygtk/
[17:06] <PK> blazemore: Not really. PyGTK is not so easy as Python.
[17:06] <PK> Any more languages I need to learn to continue? Any alternatives?>
[17:06] <[TiZ]> blazemore: It ended up being a problem with x2x.
[17:06] <blazemore> PyGTK is a Python library, so you'd do well to learn Python
[17:07] <IUseOTR> I deleted a bunch of packages associated with Evolution Mail (I use Thunderbird), and I seem to have deleted my clock/calendar display from the upper right side of the screen.  Can anybody tell me how to restore it?
[17:07] <PK> Is there a way to create apps in Ubuntu using Java? I don't think so... but still...
[17:07] <[TiZ]> You'd do well to learn Python just because anyways. I came from C-like languages like Java, C#, Vala.
[17:07] <blazemore> IUseOTR: The calendar is part of Evolution
[17:07] <trism> IUseOTR: indicator-datetime
[17:07] <blazemore> PK Java is cross-platform, so yeah you can code Java in Ubuntu
[17:07] <[TiZ]> Python is a very nice language once you get used to it.
[17:07] <blazemore> Python > Java IMO
[17:07] <ttafred> java is xplatform so yes, i think
[17:07] <tottto-drummond> I have a problem with my usb wifi adaptor. can someone help me
[17:08] <IUseOTR> trism/blazemore: Thanks!
[17:08] <blazemore> tottto-drummond: You'll have to be a bit more specific
[17:08] <[TiZ]> You would need Java bindings for GTK. Which are probably uglier than C# bindings to GTK.
[17:08] <PK> What is this Pango I hear of?
[17:08] <blazemore> PK: Pango is a library for laying out and rendering of text, with an emphasis on internationalization.
[17:08] <[TiZ]> Nothing you will likely have to deal with directly. It's pretty well integrated into GTK.
[17:09] <PK> blazemore: Ah! Are you a bot? Because you type fast.
[17:10] <tottto-drummond> blazemore thanks.. I have a Belkin F9L1103 usb wifi adaptor I tried to get it to work with Ndiswrapper. but it doesn t seem to work. When I do lsusb ubuntu does recognizes it
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> PK  you didnt accept any advice, what is it that you want?
[17:12] <PK> MonkeyDust  I just need an alternative to PyGTK because there are not a lot of good tutorials  that I want.
[17:12] <caglar> is there any body can help me?
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> caglar  if you're sweet
[17:12] <caglar> i have a problem with my radeon hd 6470m driver
[17:12] <caglar> :)
[17:13] <robbie> how can I set pulse volume control as the default volume control instead of the one that usually is in sound prefs?
[17:13] <robbie> the system sound control cant handle volume sliders for 5.1 audio
[17:13] <tottto-drummond> blazemore any clue on how I can get it to work
[17:13] <caglar> it is hyprid with intel ati driver
[17:13] <robbie> at least not digital 5.1
[17:14] <blazemore> PK I'm not a bot
[17:14] <blazemore> (slow enough for you :P)
[17:15] <blazemore> tottto-drummond: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[17:15] <tottto-drummond> blazemore 12.10
[17:16] <blazemore> tottto-drummond: What happens if you run sudo modprobe rt2800usb
[17:17] <lahwran> if I do sudo apt-get install fglrx, then it should activate automatically, correct? and if I later do sudo apt-get remove fglrx then it should then revert to the open source driver automatically, correct?
[17:17] <blazemore> lahwran: In theory, yes
[17:17] <Aleksander> Hello. I've bought Humble Indie Bundle V with SuperMeatBoy and I'm trying to install with via Ubuntu Software Center, but it keeps downloading 277 instead of ~170 mb version of amd64 DEB. Why is that?
[17:17] <lahwran> blazemore: do you have experiences with it not working, or are you just being cautious with your recommendations?
[17:18] <blazemore> lahwran: I tend to screw around a lot so my breakages are probably my own
[17:18] <blazemore> lahwran: As long as you stick to the package manager and don't try installing from AMD themselves, you'll be golden
[17:18] <L3top> lahwran: not exactly... to remove fglrx you have to purge and reinstall some things.
[17:18] <lahwran> blazemore: blah. I was curious because I want to try fglrx, see how it works, and if it doesn't switch to official catalyst
[17:18] <fotographix> after days of searching to simply replace/swap a graphics card in ubuntu i have come to no conclusion, anyone know of a how to url, or any support options for hardware in ubuntu?
[17:18] <tottto-drummond> blazemore let me try
[17:19] <blazemore> fglrx is official catalyst
[17:19] <lahwran> but according to apt-cache show it's like 5 versions out of date
[17:19] <blazemore> tottto-drummond: be quick, I need to go home in 10 minutes
[17:19] <blazemore> lahwran: the "fglrx-updates" package might be more your speed?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> fotographix  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[17:20] <fotographix> thank you
[17:20] <L3top> lahwran: what version of ubuntu are you on and what is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[17:20] <lahwran> blazemore: that's also version 8.960, whereas http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx is no less than four major versions ahead
[17:20] <lahwran> L3top: 12.04.1 installed a few days ago, and gimme a minute, I'm on irc from a different computer
[17:21] <lahwran> L3top: what does -nn do?
[17:21] <L3top> lahwran: see my pm on reverting from fglrx to radeon driver
[17:21] <lahwran> oh, I see
[17:21] <L3top> -nn = all numbers as well
[17:21] <caglar> but i have another problem
[17:21] <blazemore> lahwran: cd /tmp && wget -c http://goo.gl/Bbeki -O catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.zip && unzip catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.zip && chmod +x amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run && sudo sh amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run
[17:21] <caglar> it does not solve mine
[17:22] <tottto-drummond> blazemore nothing happens
[17:22] <lahwran> blazemore: okay, what does that do? it looks to me like it's just the commandline version of a normal install
[17:22] <caglar> because ati dont support my signature it says you need to talk with provider of your computer it means sony
[17:22] <Guest34433> Guys, is there a workaround for the non working fn+F5 brightness control on a laptop?
[17:22] <tottto-drummond> blazemore when I open ndiswrapper it says that I have rt2870
[17:23] <Guest34433> I am blinded :(
[17:23] <blazemore> lahwran: Yeah but it's the latest version from AMD's website, rather than the one packaged for Ubuntu
[17:23] <blazemore> Guest34433: I believe there's a brightness applet, if you alt-rightclick on your top bar and click add
[17:23] <lahwran> blazemore: yes, that's what I mean, I understand how to do that ._.
[17:23] <Guest34433> 10x man
[17:23] <blazemore> OK I have to go
[17:23] <blazemore> good luck Guest34433 and lahwran
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> Guest34433  the workaround is in the system settings, brightness and lock
[17:24] <tottto-drummond> blazemore and if I do sudo modprobe rt2870usb then I get a FATAL: rt2870usb not found
[17:24] <Guest34433> MonkeyDust, this doesn't work, hence me asking
[17:24] <blazemore> tottto-drummond: What happens if you run sudo modprobe rt2800usb
[17:25] <Guest34433> sliders are moving, controls are showing on the screen, yet nothing seems to work
[17:25] <blazemore> Anyway you're on your own
[17:25] <tottto-drummond> blazemore as I said.. nothing
[17:25] <blazemore> Should have done that in the first place ;)
[17:25] <blazemore> gtg
[17:26] <skywolf> connect
[17:26] <Guest34433> So, no way to manipulate brightness :(
[17:26] <skywolf> \connect
[17:26] <Guest34433> I read this is due kernel bug
[17:27] <karpa> hello!
[17:27] <lahwran> L3top: https://gist.github.com/1ffdcbf2300f5c08f27a
[17:27] <dr_willis> jello
[17:28] <tottto-drummond> blazemore Ndiswrapper does see the adaptor but under rt2870 not 2800
[17:29] <Ascavasaion> Can someone please help me install flash, because I cannot get it installed off Adobe's site because the browsers will not open apt.
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> !flash | Ascavasaion
[17:30] <kenneth__> man i'm in trouble. I just did an 1hr recording of my screen and voice using kazam. I know for a fact it worked, because i did trials. but during presentation, i couldn't exit out of recording. how do i recover it?
[17:30] <tottto-drummond> blazemore any idea ?
[17:30] <OerHeks> Guest34433, maybe this page is any help > acpi_backlight=vendor >>> http://www.techjail.net/solved-brightness-problem-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin.html
[17:30] <Ascavasaion> MonkeyDust: I have it installed, it just does not work.
[17:30] <lahwran> L3top: are you there? I got the lspci output as requested, what were you planning to find out
[17:32] <food1> I installed Kernel 3.4 64bit .. Can anyone kindly confirm me that i installed it correct version? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1324200/
[17:33] <L3top> that isnt exactly what I requested... but... lol ok... so make sure you purge the driver with the instructions I gave you, and give fglrx-updates a try. If you just want to revert then skip that lahwran. I am now tied up but will be around for quick questions.
[17:33] <lahwran> L3top: the only difference is that I didn't bother filtering for the graphics card
[17:33] <lahwran> L3top: more information is better and all that
[17:34] <Ascavasaion> Okay, let me retry this... HOw do I get the browser to open APT installer when a link is clicked that tries to open it?
[17:35] <kashif> hyyy
[17:35] <ncmccx> Is gigolo supposed to show al shares in xubuntu? i can see shares with smbtree command
[17:35] <HulkHogan> Ascavasaion: install apt url
[17:37] <food1> anyone please?
[17:37] <L3top> lahwran: I am pretty specific with the commands with reason. I don't want to have to open a pastebin and read all of your lspci devices to find out if your pciid is supported by the current slew of drivers... I just want what I want pasted here as often as possible because I am busy.
[17:38] <HulkHogan> food1: run uname -a
[17:41] <food1> HulkHogan, it says 3.4.0-030400-generic but searching all kernel version it output "Linux kernel image for version 3.4.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP" where 3.2 says " Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP"
[17:41] <Ascavasaion> HulkHogan: Okay, it asked me f I want to open the link with Apturl.  I chose to, and then it popped up "Unknown channel 'precise-partner' The channel 'precise-partner' is not known".
[17:43] <HulkHogan> food1: if it says 3.4.0 then thats ur current kernel
[17:43] <food1> HulkHogan, So it really 64 bit ?
[17:43] <trism> !partner | Ascavasaion
[17:43] <HulkHogan> Ascavasaion: u probally need to enable it in the software sources
[17:43] <HulkHogan> Ascavasaion: is just a checkbox u need to enable
[17:44] <HulkHogan> food1: if it says 64 then ur using 64bit, if it says like i686 then u using 32bit
[17:45] <juztus> what about PowerPC processor ubuntu?
[17:46] <Peter> Hello their! i would like to ask a question about ubuntu
[17:46] <juztus> does any use such on old PowerMacs?
[17:46] <HulkHogan> juztus: dont think they support those anymore
[17:46] <Peter> When i load ubuntu from a live usb stick, it takes a very very long time
[17:46] <food1> HulkHogan, What can i understand from this description :  Linux kernel image for version 3.4.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
[17:46] <Peter> like 2 or 3 minutes, at least
[17:47] <Peter> do you know what is the problem?
[17:47] <Erik_D> Peter: your USB drive?
[17:47] <borg-queen> i am having trouble mounting my windows ntfs drive and fdisk does not see the harddrive either.  I am running kubuntu which is installed on a SATA Raid 5 PCI controller card (no problems here) and I have Windows installed on a seperate physical harddrive (only ntfs partition on it) which is connected to my motherboard's SATA Port.
[17:47] <juztus> ok Hulk told me theyre outdated PC's (them(e) 'Parked'Macs.)
[17:47] <Peter> Yes, a linux live usb
[17:47] <HulkHogan> food1: yea thats a 32bit then
[17:47] <thepredator1994> hi
[17:47] <Erik_D> hi
[17:47] <Erik_D> how are you
[17:47] <Erik_D> :/
[17:48] <Peter> Erik_D: Yes, i am launching ubuntu from a live usb. but it takes a long time
[17:48] <HulkHogan> borg-queen: might need to install ntfsprogs or ntfstools forgot the name
[17:48] <Peter> it works but at the start screen (the purple screen with the ubuntu logo and the 4 dots) it takes like for 2 or 3 minutes
[17:48] <Erik_D> Peter: I meant your USB is probably the problem
[17:48] <Peter> Oh
[17:48] <Peter> what do you think i should do? right now i have 2 different usb sticks
[17:48] <juztus> how much better for a guru-geek is theBBS in comparison to this ubuntu?
[17:49] <Erik_D> USBs over, well, usb connections are much slower than hard drives over SATA
[17:49] <Peter> Is it possible to use any other type of USB device?
[17:49] <Peter> like a portable hard drive?
[17:49] <blazinbass> Is it possible that switching to Lbuntu has drastically lowered my download speeds?  I swear my internet will no longer download anything above 100kbs a second
[17:49] <blazinbass> its incredibly slow
[17:49] <food1> HulkHogan, I installed these http://paste.ubuntu.com/1324237/ ... But not understanding why it should 32bit .. Here i confused
[17:49] <borg-queen> HulkHogan: I installed ntfs-config which is the only ntfs package I could find
[17:49] <Peter> my computer does not have a cd drive
[17:50] <HulkHogan> borg-queen: did u enable the other non-free repositories?
[17:50] <juztus> probably mmany overly many disk configurations r possible but most produce a slow environment for Todays DigitalMedia-to-be transferred thsrough the electronics-32bit-channels
[17:51] <blazinbass> is it possible that lbuntu is limiting my download speeds?
[17:51] <HulkHogan> borg-queen: then u should be able to see the other packages
[17:51] <Erik_D> Peter: a drive might work better
[17:51] <Erik_D> Peter: Is an extra minute or 2 that big a deal?
[17:51] <Peter> What is a drive? a hard drive?
[17:51] <Peter> No
[17:51] <Erik_D> yeah
[17:51] <juztus> Express-PCI etc. dont yeat remove certain bottlenecks
[17:51] <Erik_D> Peter: Or try a lighter weight distro
[17:51] <Peter> its just that i use it on the school laptop (teehee) to bypass admin controls and to play games. i dont want to do anything permenant to the computer
[17:52] <Erik_D> pretty much anything but ubuntu.
[17:52] <Erik_D> OH lol
[17:52] <Erik_D> Fun times in high school XD
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Erik_D: Lubuntu is light
[17:52] <Peter> yeah. i play minecraft on it XD
[17:52] <Peter> the admins have a program called lanschool, so they can basicly own the computer
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Erik_D: ubuntu minimal + openbox is insanely light
[17:52] <Peter> so i figuered, if i change the OS then they cant log everything
[17:52] <HulkHogan> food1: run aptitude search linux-headers , to see which one is installed
[17:52] <Peter> so yeah. it loads for a long time. is there anything i can do?
[17:53] <Erik_D> Peter: Also fun is getting damn small linux, loading to ram, and leaving
[17:53] <Erik_D> you can remove cd / usb
[17:53] <Erik_D> nobody knows what happens
[17:53] <Erik_D> gon on reboot
[17:53] <Erik_D> *gonje
[17:53] <thepredator1994> i use ubuntu on my external HD and it works great :D
[17:53] <Erik_D> *gone
[17:53] <Peter> Err
[17:53] <juztus> I'm trying to help but mySelf, a simple Proble, how to  rebuild a network connection to a laptop, if integrated is damaged beyound repair
[17:53] <macmartine> Can I disable a startup script in /etc/init.d just by giving it an extension like .sample ?
[17:53] <Peter> I am not exactly a computer technician
[17:54] <Peter> so what do i do? get a small os that i boot it and because its so small it stays in the RAM?
[17:54] <juztus> viaUSB (like suondCard is), I don't have pcmcia, AnyOne knoe how to rebuild a RJ-45 through some usb port, or so?
[17:54] <borg-queen> HulkHogan: I believe I did. Software Sources states I have enabled: Canonical-supported Open Source Software, Community-maintained Open Source Software, Proprietary drivers for devices, and Software restricted by copyright or legal issues
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> !info chkconfig
[17:55] <Erik_D> Peter: there is a distribution called Damn Small Linux, and one of the boot options is to move the image to ram, so you don't need the usb drive or cd, and it's really fast because it's all already loaded into ram
[17:55] <Peter> Oh
[17:55] <Erik_D> But yeah, try something like lubuntu
[17:55] <Peter> does it looks good and is GUI'ed and has a web browser?
[17:55] <HulkHogan> borg-queen: yea try refreshing now
[17:55] <Peter> i need it to look kinda good, so i get brag points (XD) and also i prefer GUI rather then command line
[17:56] <Peter> i could use command line if i had to, though
[17:56] <beeju> Peter, I use puppy
[17:56] <Peter> What is that?
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> puppy is a small distro
[17:56] <beeju> Peter, Puppy-Linux
[17:56] <Peter> How is it? can it boot to ram?
[17:57] <Pici> !offtopic
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> macmartine: sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf; sudo sysv-rc-conf
[17:57] <rwlyonsjr> Good afternoon... I am having some wireless problems with my Asus Zenbook UX31E... Can anyone help
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Peter  "The entire system can be run from RAM, allowing the boot medium to be removed after the operating system has started."
[17:57] <beeju> Peter, http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> rwlyonsjr: if you can give details, we can advise
[17:57] <Peter> Thank you, people
[17:58] <Peter> i am now compairing darn small linux and puppie
[17:58] <Makdaam> hello, I've got some problems with my terminal... the width is wrong in some of the apps I run
[17:58] <rwlyonsjr> ActionParsnip: Sure I am only getting about 2 bars of signal and at times I am dropped off the network even if I am sitting close to the router
[17:58] <Makdaam> where do I even start diagnosing it?
[17:58] <goddard> how can i disable the email bounce response email from my server?
[17:59] <gordonjcp> goddard: depends on what you're using
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> rwlyonsjr: what wifi chip are you using?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Peter: slitaz is light too
[17:59] <Peter> Ok?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Peter: as is tinycore (tinycore is probably smallest)
[17:59] <Peter> can all of these distros boot via usb?
[18:00] <Peter> my school laptop is designed for security, so no cd drive
[18:00] <rwlyonsjr> ActionParsnip: what is the best way to find the exact chip. I know it uses the Arth9k driver
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Peter: yes, you can use unetbootin to put them on a USB stick
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> rwlyonsjr: sudo lshw -C network      is ONE way. There is no best way
[18:00] <Peter> Ok
[18:01] <rwlyonsjr> ActionParsnip: AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[18:01] <beeju> Peter, use unetbootin if u r on Windows or use multisystem if on Ubuntu
[18:01] <Peter> I am on my school laptop, windows now
[18:02] <Peter> i mainly use linux to bypass admin controls, so yeah
[18:02] <beeju> with Multisystem, u can install multiple OSs on a single USB
[18:02] <TheJelly> Connecting my phone to the computer using bluetooth a2dp profile always fails, how can I check what is wrong?
[18:03] <beeju> Multisystem-- http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> rwlyonsjr: if you run:   sudo iwlist scan | egrep -i 'channel|ssid'     do you see a lot of wirelesses on the same channel?
[18:03] <Guest34433> Guys, what is the best file system for storage?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest34433: all filesystems do storage
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest34433: there is no best file system
[18:04] <Guest34433> big media files and such
[18:04] <beeju> Peter, Multisystem can be installed on live-cd/USB too
[18:04] <HulkHogan> Guest34433: anything but FAT then
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest34433: I'd go for Ext4 for simplicity
[18:04] <rwlyonsjr> ActionParsnip: Right now I see 2 networks in range and they are on 2 different channel
[18:04] <Guest34433> ext4 it is then
[18:04] <Peter> Oh dear :D your all gonna advertise me your favorite Linux distros :D
[18:05] <beeju> Peter, no ad but help
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> Peter  wait until we start recommending IRC clients
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> rwlyonsjr: that's good, now you have the wifi chip, you can search for solutions
[18:06]  * Peter says to his computer: Brace yourselfs! the great linux distro ad-rant is gonna come!
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Guest34433: http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-the-filesystems-ext2-ext3-ext4-ReiserFS-and-XFS
[18:06] <rwlyonsjr> ActionParsnip: ok
[18:06] <Erik_D> Peter: As long as we don't start the text editor war it's all good
[18:06] <Erik_D> (vim > emacs, btw)
[18:06] <Peter> I think i better get out of here, Lol
[18:06] <serverqg> Current speed download: 318 KB/s upload 1216 KB/s
[18:07]  * keithzg is a nano-using heathen
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> keithzg: same
[18:07] <TheJelly> So is there anyway I could check why my bluetooth connection fails after a few seconds?
[18:07] <serverqg> My upload is better than download
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> TheJelly: run:   dmesg | tail
[18:07] <mnice> hello
[18:08] <mnice> how can i find out what package provides dhcpcd-test utility ?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> TheJelly: when it drops
[18:08] <Trebuchet> Hey all you Ubuntu-users, I'm using the superior Linux Mint
[18:08] <Guest34433> ok, another question
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> mnice: dpkg -S dhcpcd-test
[18:08] <Pici> Trebuchet: hey, we dpnm
[18:08] <Pici> Trebuchet: hey, we don't care
[18:08] <Guest34433> where to get and how to install intel hd3000 drivers
[18:08] <serverqg> Mint is soon Ubuntu
[18:08] <Guest34433> intel's site doesnt provide that
[18:08] <mnice> ActionParsnip: i mean from possible installation candidates
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> serverqg: mint is offtopic here
[18:09] <Trebuchet> Ubuntu is laggy, so I went to Xubuntu, but that didn't feel right either
[18:09] <Peter> Sorry for being so noobish, but how do i download DSL?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> !find dhcpcd-test | mnice
[18:09] <Peter> its darn small linux XD
[18:09] <k1l_> Trebuchet: troll somewhere else!
[18:09] <Trebuchet> then when I installed Mint, I was happy as can be
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Trebuchet: what video chip do you use?
[18:09] <Trebuchet> umm, I'll check
[18:09] <Trebuchet> hold on
[18:09] <Guest34433> Intel driver guys - where to get, how to install
[18:09] <ttafred> Peter u google
[18:09] <serverqg> I use Slackware, Ubuntu 10.04 server, Debian Squeeze server, Ubuntu 12.10 too
[18:09] <Peter> Ok
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest34433: its in a default install
[18:09] <Guest34433> not its not
[18:10] <serverqg> Google Earth 7 now
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> serverqg: do you have a support question?
[18:10] <serverqg> Anyone install Google Earth 7?
[18:10] <Trebuchet> this is my laptop: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06b/321957-321957-64295-3740644-3955548-5086782-5086785-5223272.html?dnr=1
[18:10] <mnice> i need to dump dhcpack without using it
[18:10] <Trebuchet> i'm not sure how to see the video card
[18:10] <Guest34433> ActionParsnip, it says Driver: Unknown, Experience: Standard
[18:10] <wols> Trebuchet: lspci
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Trebuchet: run:    sudo lshw -C display
[18:11] <Guest34433> so no working Intel driver in the install
[18:11] <Guest34433> which means i cant adjust simple thing as brightness
[18:11] <ttafred> what do you call the quantal new deskop interface
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Guest34433: its in the default install, it does the resolution. The brightness is different
[18:12] <Trebuchet>  description: VGA compatible controller
[18:12] <Trebuchet>        product: Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
[18:12] <Trebuchet>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[18:12] <Trebuchet>        physical id: 2
[18:12] <Trebuchet>        bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
[18:12] <Trebuchet>        version: 02
[18:12] <Trebuchet>        width: 64 bits
[18:12] <FloodBot1> Trebuchet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> ttafred: the shell is called Unity
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Trebuchet: we just need the product line.
[18:12] <Guest34433> ActionParsnip, ok then. How to fix brightness?
[18:12] <Guest34433> it doesnt work
[18:12] <Trebuchet> HP 630
[18:12] <Trebuchet> oh wow, I'm such a noob sorry
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Trebuchet: no, the product line of the video chip........
[18:13] <Trebuchet> as you can see, I don't know very much about conputers
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Guest34433: what make and model is the system
[18:13] <Trebuchet> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06b/321957-321957-64295-3740644-3955548-5086782-5086785-5223272.html?dnr=1
[18:13] <Trebuchet> thats the laptop
[18:13] <serverqg> sudo apt-get install lsb-core ; cd /tmp ; wget -c http://goo.gl/YEqTf -O google-earth-stable_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i google-earth-stable_i386.deb para 32 bits
[18:14] <Guest34433> ActionParsnip, http://store.sony.com/laptop/Custom-Sony-VAIO-Ultrabook-13.3-T-Series/SVT131190X-Standard/en/vaio/8198552921666454150
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest34433: let me search, sony rubbish can be a pain.
[18:15] <Guest34433> applets work as they should, I mean they indicate changes without any effect. and yes, sony is garbage
[18:15] <serverqg> sudo apt-get install lsb-core ; cd /tmp ; wget -c http://goo.gl/YEqTf -O wget -c http://goo.gl/t6E3i -O google-earth-stable_amd64.deb ; sudo dpkg -i google-earth-stable_amd64.deb for 64 bits
[18:15] <Trebuchet> Did you guys figure it out?
[18:15] <giulio_> hi
[18:16] <serverqg> Current speed download: 318 KB/s upload 1218 KB/s
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest34433: tried adding the boot options:      acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor
[18:16] <VlanX> i've just installed 12.10 but i saw that the effects when you iconize a window it's different. Now the window fades back to the panel much slower.. how can i tweak this setting?
[18:16] <serverqg> Current speed download: 318 KB/s upload 1218 KB/s
[18:16] <bazhang> serverqg, why are you postin g that
[18:16] <Killa_Killa[RIP]> HELLO !!!!! how i can find tutorial to create my canal
[18:16] <Trebuchet> Guys, is it true that Linux doesn't need anti-virus?
[18:17] <Guest34433> lolol where should i put that line
[18:17] <bazhang> Killa_Killa[RIP], on #freenode
[18:17] <jimi_> After logging in, all of my windows have lost the X [] _ for close/minimize/maximize
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> !av | Trebuchet
[18:17] <Trebuchet> take out the "C" in canal, I believe that oughtta work
[18:17] <FloSoft> hi, why the f*** did do-release-upgrade upgraded me from natty to oneiric and not to the next LTS?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Trebuchet: only if you are running a file server or an email server
[18:17] <serverqg> Sorry... bazhag. I want if Google Earth run good in Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10
[18:17] <xangua> !language | FloSoft
[18:18] <Trebuchet> sorry ubottu
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> FloSoft: because theonly way you can upgrade to Precise OS from Lucid (LTS to LTS) or from 11.10 (next release)
[18:18] <bazhang> serverqg, please stop posting that here. we don't need to know your upload and download speeds
[18:18] <jrib> FloSoft: you cannot skip versions while upgrading unless you are going from LTS to LT
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> FloSoft: you cannot leapfro releases
[18:18] <jrib> S
[18:18] <Guest34433> ActionParsnip, which file should I put this acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor line?
[18:18] <FloSoft> hmm so I cant go to lts from oneiric?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest34433: http://askubuntu.com/questions/154557/unable-to-change-brightness-settings-in-sony-vaio-e-series-laptop
[18:18] <serverqg> bazhang, OK... Vou unable function... Sorry.
[18:19] <serverqg> I am brazilian, sorry my english
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> FloSoft: yes as it is 11.10 to 12.04 which is the next release. As I said earlier, you cannot leapfrog releases
[18:19] <ubuntu_mint> hi, is it possible to recover rar or zip passwords in ubuntu?
[18:19] <FloSoft> ActionParsnip: hmm thats kind of strange
[18:20] <Trebuchet> I forgot the password to my TrueCrypt btw, how do I recover it?
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> !info rarcrack
[18:20] <Trebuchet> It has all of my dad's business stuff
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_mint: http://my.opera.com/mazwarbz/blog/rarcrack-how-to-crack-rar-archieve-password-in-ubuntu
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Trebuchet: oh dear :(
[18:20] <Trebuchet> what?
[18:20] <FloSoft> ActionParsnip: but I dont skip a version arent I?
[18:20] <jrib> FloSoft: you can upgrade to precise (LTS) from oneiric
[18:21] <FloSoft> jrib: how? im on oneiric now, but do-release-upgrade does not offer that option
[18:21] <Trebuchet> I suggested to my dad to use truecrypt and he trusted me with the password, but I forgot it
[18:21] <jrib> FloSoft: it should
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> FloSoft: if you update from Natty to Oneiric, then upgrade Oneiric to Precise then you have not missed a release
[18:21] <Trebuchet> I need to get it open or he'll kill me
[18:21] <Trebuchet> my dad uses Ubuntu if that helps
[18:22] <FloSoft> interesting - I tried 2min before and it said no new release available O.o
[18:22] <FloSoft> now it works *lol*
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Trebuchet: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24404882-Truecrypt-Forgot-My-Password
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Trebuchet: one of the reasons I don't use encrypted nonsense
[18:23] <FloSoft> thx anyway ;)
[18:23] <Trebuchet> Thanks Parnsip, you've been very helpful
[18:23] <jrib> Trebuchet: you'll usually remember the password after trying not to think about it for a while
[18:24] <gatis> hello, i was wondering where does "Keyboard Layout" client writes all the configs ?
[18:24] <Trebuchet> Ok, I'll just go and sulk for a while
[18:27] <zastaph> does "vgaswitcheroo" aka https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics also work for desktop computers?
[18:27] <zastaph> would like to get a desktop with a potent gpu, that can be turned off to save power
[18:28] <TheJelly> How can I prevent bluetooth from disconnecting when establishing an a2dp connection  with my phone?
[18:28] <Effigy-> test
[18:28] <wols> zastaph: it can't. and what you want is a bad idea
[18:29] <zastaph> wols, how come
[18:29] <wols> cause a modern GPU only uses 10-20W while on the desktop
[18:30] <zastaph> wols, I see, gotta check the cards specs then
[18:30] <PK> How to use IRC in Empathy?
[18:30] <PK> I don't see IRC on the account settings.
[18:30] <trism> PK: if 12.10 you may need to install account-plugin-irc
[18:31] <PK> Okay, I got it.
[18:31] <xangua> PK: you need empathy irc module, besides that empathy is VERY limited for irc
[18:31] <PK> sudo apt-get install blah.
[18:31] <|Anthony|> i need to clone a dual-boot hdd to a smaller drive. the 2 partitions that make up the dual boot are smaller than the new hdd. the rest of the original hdd is backup space
[18:31] <|Anthony|> how do i do that
[18:31] <Killa_Killa[RIP]> #freenode.fr
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> PK: https://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#IRC
[18:31] <PK> Hello, absolute value of Anthony.
[18:32] <|Anthony|> lol
[18:32] <|Anthony|> like that
[18:32] <PK> Yes, it is 12.10 Unity.
[18:32] <thesadmafioso> Har, PK that's clever.
[18:32] <linuxuz3r> |Anthony|: maybe dd?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: you can use dd, clonezilla, grsync in liveCD
[18:32] <VlanX> anyone knows how to set the time a windows takes to fade back to the unity panel when you press "iconize" ?
[18:32] <PK> Thank you. <tips hat>
[18:33] <thesadmafioso> Is there a command to delete folders with files still inside of them?
[18:33] <jrib> !cli | thesadmafioso
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> thesadmafioso  rm -r
[18:33] <jrib> thesadmafioso: rm -r
[18:33] <|Anthony|> that might work if it was a simple dd if-/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb so i could get the mbr too. but the replacement hdd is smaller
[18:33] <thesadmafioso> Ah, so remove recursively?
[18:34] <thesadmafioso> Ok, I shall try that and then stop staring at this comptuer screen for the night. Thank you!
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: use bs=1024   to speed it up a bit :)
[18:34] <linuxuz3r> ActionParsnip: but he said the replacement hdd is smaller
[18:34] <linuxuz3r> is it smaller?
[18:35] <PK> You people are smart.
[18:35] <|Anthony|> yes
[18:35] <|Anthony|> although... the 2 os's on the original are smaller than the replacement
[18:35] <|Anthony|> but the whole drive is larger
[18:35] <PK> |Anthony|: "yes" is not a replacement to "thank you". ;)
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> |Anthony|, Personally I would resize the original with gparted to fit then clone it with clonezilla then install in the new one, This serves two purposes you have a new hd set up and the clone for backup.
[18:36] <PK> I'm not running GNOME, so Terminal wouldn't accept the GNOME command.
[18:36] <linuxuz3r> |Anthony|: what wilee-nilee said
[18:36] <PK> I repeat, I'm using Unity.
[18:36] <linuxuz3r> it still should work PK
[18:37] <PK> Ain't working, linuxuz3r.
[18:37] <linuxuz3r> try typing term in application
[18:37] <linuxuz3r> finder
[18:37] <PK> Are there other pre-installed IRC clients?
[18:37] <linuxuz3r> not that i know of
[18:37] <linuxuz3r> but you are already using one
[18:38] <PK> Are there any good ones I may install (leaving ChatZilla)?
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> PK  what are you running?
[18:38] <gordonjcp> irssi
[18:38] <PK> Nah... I need a quicker access. I'm on my web browser.
[18:38] <gordonjcp> run irssi inside screen on a server somewhere
[18:38] <PK> gordonjcp  Not there on the dash.
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> irssi <3
[18:38] <gordonjcp> PK: it wouldn't be on your local machine
[18:39] <gordonjcp> well, it *could* be I suppose
[18:39] <gordonjcp> you could install it
[18:39] <PK> What are you guys running?
[18:39] <gordonjcp> PK: irssi, inside screen
[18:39] <gordonjcp> it's awesome
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> same here
[18:39] <PK> I can't find it on the Dash.
[18:39] <gordonjcp> PK: you'd need to install it
[18:39] <PK> Oh Lord.
[18:40] <PK> Okay.
[18:40] <gordonjcp> PK: and as I said, ideally you'd install it on some hosted machine somewhere, run it in screen, and ssh to it
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> sudo apt-get install screen irssi
[18:40] <linuxuz3r> pk try searching for terminal on the dash
[18:40] <gordonjcp> PK: watch this
[18:40] <ttafred> unity feels slow. is this because i have a 128mb graphic?
[18:40] <PK> I know terminal. Gosh.
[18:40] <gordonjcp> PK: okay, I've now turned my desktop off, and I'm sitting on my PC in the van
[18:41] <gordonjcp> PK: did you see me disconnect and reconnect? No? That's because I didn't - I just dropped the ssh connection on one machine, connected from another, and reattached screen
[18:41] <linuxuz3r> gordonjcp: what does screen do?
[18:41] <PK> I don't really follow those "joined," and "left" messages.
[18:42] <gordonjcp> linuxuz3r: it provides a virtual console that you can disconnect and reattach
[18:42] <linuxuz3r> gordonjcp: using what connection?
[18:42] <linuxuz3r> ssh?
[18:42] <PK> Which one works on Ubuntu again? tar.bz or tar.gz?
[18:42] <gordonjcp> yeah
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> linuxuz3r  you can even terminate terminal and log off, screen keeps running
[18:42] <linuxuz3r> pk both
[18:43] <linuxuz3r> ok
[18:43] <wols> PK: tar -j... is bz2 and tar -z... is gz
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> pk: or install unp and use that to extract anything
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> pk:  unp filename
[18:43] <sarutahiko> I messed aroudn with my shell a bit (to get zsh instead of bash) and now my prompt is [computername]% and no longer shows my account name.  is this normal with zsh or am i in  the wrong shell
[18:43] <PK> Who are the reds here?
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> the reds?
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> sarutahiko: does zsh honour PS1 ?
[18:44] <sarutahiko> I do not know what PS1 is
[18:44] <sarutahiko> but it also doesn't show my path
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> sarutahiko: its the variableto define the bash prompt
[18:45] <jrib> sarutahiko: when you first run zsh it should run you through its setup...
[18:45] <sarutahiko> jrib: yes I just completed that
[18:45] <john_doe_jr> I need to cd into a directory that has a space in the file name…how do I do that?
[18:45] <jrib> sarutahiko: I think you could have chosen a prompt there :)
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> sarutahiko: try:  export PS1="\[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$"
[18:45] <PK> irssi downloaded and I've opened this with Archive Manager.  What next?
[18:46] <john_doe_jr> anybody?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> PK: run:   irssi   in a terminal
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr  tab completes, even the spaces
[18:46] <PK> okay my sire.
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: use TAB to complete the name
[18:46] <bazhang> PK are you on ubuntu? you dont install irssi from a tar.gz
[18:46] <john_doe_jr> MonkeyDust: they name of the file is Office 2007 Std
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> PK  sudo apt-get install screen irssi
[18:47] <john_doe_jr> MonkeyDust: it doesn't automatically change to this
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: or run:     cd Office\ 2007\ Std
[18:47] <sarutahiko> ActionParsnip: now my prompt is "\[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]\u@\h:\w$"
[18:47] <PK> MonkeyDust  all right, the old sudo way.  Right on.
[18:47] <jrib> sarutahiko: here http://zshwiki.org/home/config/prompt (you can just edit PS1 if you want but there are some nice preset ones you can explore)
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> PK  the  fastest and easiest way
[18:47] <linuxuz3r> lolz PK you should have used terminal to run the empathy plugin
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> sarutahiko: then the PS1 is honoured. You can find guides to set the prompt as you desire
[18:47] <jrib> sarutahiko, ActionParsnip: the escapes are different in zsh, they use %
[18:47] <mr_ebola> hi
[18:47] <PK> Oh boy.
[18:48] <sarutahiko> thank you
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> jrib: gotcha
[18:48]  * jrib learned that ActionParsnip is not a zsh user and is disappointed :(
[18:48] <PK> Could you please explain this beginner (me) how to do that? @linuxuz3r.
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> jrib: bash does enough for me
[18:49] <jrib> ActionParsnip: just teasing you
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> jrib: I know :D
[18:50] <Linkandzelda> can i request some assistance? My mac mini is unable to boot a live usb installer, and the command to make a user installer from a mac result in an unreadable disc
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> sarutahiko: try:   PS1=$'%B%n @ %M%b %{\e[1;32m%}%~%{\e[0m%} $ '
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> sarutahiko: source http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/zsh-ps1-dollar-sign-in-the-beginning-why-858543/
[18:50] <john_doe_jr> ActionParsnip: that worked...thanks!!
[18:50] <linuxuz3r> open up dash type in : xterm and do sudo apt-get install irc-empathy-plugin
[18:51] <PK> linuxuz3r:  What is the command for the Empathy plugin?
[18:51] <linuxuz3r> i dont know
[18:51] <PK> Running irssi on the terminal. Cool stuff.
[18:52] <mrebola1> a
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> john_doe_jr: if you use TAB more, it makes things easier :)
[18:52] <ebola00> a
[18:53] <mrclem> salut
[18:53] <mrclem> ififjdjid
[18:53] <linuxuz3r> salut
[18:54] <hyperturbo> The Superbowl vs. The Election.
[18:54] <parth_> Eh, this is PK.
[18:54] <bazhang> !ot | hyperturbo
[18:55] <parth_> How to change my nickname?
[18:55] <parth_> On the terminal.
[18:55] <bazhang>  /nick newnick
[18:55] <PK> Cool stuff.
[18:55] <linuxuz3r> try
[18:55] <linuxuz3r> : /name
[18:55] <PK> What does this "+i" mean?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> PK: its very scriptable
[18:56] <PK> Hmm.
[18:56] <linuxuz3r> +i is invisible i think
[18:56] <PK> How do I disable these "joined" and "closed" stuff?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> PK  now type /ignore #ubuntu +joins +quits +parts +modes +nicks
[18:56] <XiaolinDrconis> check the options
[18:57] <bazhang> !quietirssi | PK
[18:57] <PK> All right sir.
[18:57] <xsacha> hi, i accidently deleted 'sed', how do i get it back? it wont let me remove it cause it has dependencies.
[18:57] <PK> Hmm.
[18:57] <xsacha> cant find a reinstall option
[18:57] <linuxuz3r> apt-get reinstall sed
[18:58] <PK> Now it's all cool—thanks.
[18:58] <xsacha> E: Invalid operation reinstall
[18:58] <trism> xsacha: sudo apt-get install --reinstall sed;
[18:58] <xsacha> ah ok
[18:58] <linuxuz3r> try that
[18:58] <xsacha> thanks
[18:58] <PK> How do I go about joining some other IRC not related to Ubuntu?  Like we'd have to connect to some other network right?
[18:59] <linuxuz3r> no
[18:59] <gordonjcp> PK: not necessarily
[18:59] <gordonjcp> PK: there are channels for all sorts of things on freenode
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> PK  try ##
[18:59] <ElixirVitae> Hi!
[18:59] <PK> For example, I wanna join some "fun" IRC not related to the Ubuntu network.
[19:00] <ElixirVitae> I am trying to make a multiboot usb drive, what options should I go out of partition types?
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> PK  then try ##fun (double #)
[19:00] <bazhang> !alis | PK have a search
[19:00] <PK> Okay.
[19:00] <PK> ##fun
[19:00] <bazhang> PK, really, these questions should be asked on #freenode
[19:00] <PK> Okay.
[19:00] <PK> How do I change the channel? -.-
[19:00] <bazhang>  /join #channel
[19:01] <xsacha> /join #freenode
[19:01] <VlanX> with 12.10 i no longer have the useful mailmox symbol on the upper right corner... why is that?
[19:01] <antonino> lista
[19:01] <ericus> Hi! Any ideas why gigabit LAN is slow while transfering files from Ubuntu 12.04 to a Windows 2008r2 Server using Windows File Sharing? Max speed about 25MB/s.
[19:02] <ericus> Works better with NFS, around 60MB/s
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> !it > antonino
[19:02] <ericus> And even better from Windows 7 (on the same machine as ubuntu) to the server; 90-110MB/s
[19:03] <zastaph> are there any ubuntu certified gamer desktops ?
[19:04] <xangua> ElixirVitae: you mean with grub2¿
[19:04] <ElixirVitae> nope
[19:04] <ElixirVitae> lemme send a pic
[19:05] <ElixirVitae> here, it is currently GUID and linux basic data partition: http://i.imgur.com/G254q.png
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> zastaph  the latest from ZaReason is a devil do all
[19:05] <heathjs> hrm, one thing i'm not sure how to do is to see which flags a package was compiled with..
[19:05] <ElixirVitae> I suppose I should make it MBR Partition scheme
[19:06] <heathjs> figured it might in the output of apt-cache show <package> but not seeing it
[19:06] <ElixirVitae> I wonder if I suppose what I should suppose~
[19:06] <zastaph> MonkeyDust, seems US only
[19:07] <ix_> what software is there for a tv tuner?
[19:07] <ix_> I think the drivers are there
[19:08] <bazhang> !tv | ix_ have a read
[19:08] <ix_> bazhang, thank you
[19:08] <VlanX> where can i find the kernel headers on 12.10 ?
[19:09] <food1> I have installed the new kernel and header file. now i want to remove the default old kernel and header file. But when i do "apt-get purge linux-header-<version> it just want to upgrade ... what can i do?
[19:10] <designbybeck> Wasn't there an issue with Ubuntu not controlling fans on laptops and they overhead?
[19:10] <aboudreault> designbybeck, well.... I have 3 laptops completly FANNINNNNNNNNNGGG,.... so I would say yes :P
[19:10] <designbybeck> uh
[19:10] <ericus> food1, try to remove it using synaptics
[19:11] <designbybeck> I thought i saw somewhere there was issues with ubuntu causing laptops to overheat aboudreault
[19:11] <food1> ericus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1324505/
[19:11] <designbybeck> and I have a friend who is new to ubuntu that is haven't that problme
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> designbybeck, Never had a problem, with at least 4 different laptops, it is not with all laptops,
[19:12] <ericus> food1 try synaptics
[19:12] <aboudreault> probably. here we use Dell laptops
[19:13] <designbybeck> he's on an Acer aspire
[19:13] <designbybeck> yeah I don't think I have had a problem with my Dells running hot
[19:14] <aboudreault> designbybeck, is the laptop relatively new? like less than a year old?
[19:14] <ericus> Does anyone know a BNC software that allows me to join multiple networks, with different nicknames in some networks? ZNC does not seem to do the job
[19:15] <fusk> Any new solutions to the freezing issue for laptops? version 12.10
[19:15] <aboudreault> ericus, I just setup different username/pass for each network. same things
[19:15] <wols> fusk: irssi?
[19:15] <fusk> wols, ?
[19:15] <aboudreault> wols, irssi is not a BNC
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> fusk: tested RAM health?
[19:16] <mrebol4> ñ.ñ
[19:16] <wols> aboudreault: of course it is
[19:16] <ericus> aboudreault, okay, but that would require several windows? I need a client for my phone
[19:16] <fusk> ActionParsnip, the machine is fine. After going through the forums etc. i've found it seems to be a commen issue.
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> fusk, A forum is not a cause and effect equaling common, it is for people to go with troubles the data is skewed.
[19:17] <ericus> aboudreault, do you have any good guide that you can link to? I'll be running it on a headless Ubuntu Server
[19:18] <aboudreault> ericus, I would have thought that on a mobile phone... it's simply status windows + channel windows.. so it doesn't care how many network you are. I might be wrong
[19:18] <designbybeck> waiting on his reply aboudreault i'm going to get him to check on this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/137747/acer-aspire-heats-up-in-ubuntu-10-10
[19:18] <designbybeck> But he did say he is running 12.10
[19:19] <food1> ericus, This description This package provides kernel header files for version 3.4.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP. i am on 32bit?
[19:19] <ericus> food1 then x86 is correct
[19:19] <ericus> that's 32bit
[19:19] <DereC> hi all
[19:19] <ericus> Hi DereC
[19:20] <DereC> im bit stuck on ubuntu
[19:20] <DereC> machine is runnig without ui
[19:20] <DereC> mean no x server etc
[19:20] <DereC> connection is only thru ssh
[19:20] <DereC> now new hdd is added
[19:20] <Pici> !enter | DereC
[19:20] <ericus> is the machine headless DereC?
[19:20] <DereC> yes
[19:21] <ericus> then you won't have any GUI
[19:21] <DereC> trying to partition 3tb hdd on headlees machine
[19:21] <ericus> Unless you go for some RDP protocol
[19:21] <DereC> fdisk is not supporting more than 2tb
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> DereC, 3 terrabyte would be gpt
[19:22] <food1> ericus, but install the amd64 bit kernel... I am not understanding why it should be 32 bit. See here the output of few command : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1324534/
[19:22] <DereC> wilee-nilee, yep, but gparted cant be run just with cmd
[19:22] <wols> DereC: parted can
[19:22] <DereC> or?
[19:23] <defaultro_> hey guys, how do I disable xen/
[19:23] <fusk> wilee-nilee,  i'v been through all the forums to the distros i've tried, every ubuntu distros has this issue for many laptop users. don't think commen is so far fetched.
[19:23] <food1> ericus, any idea?
[19:24] <wols> defaultro_: uninstall it
[19:24] <ericus> food1, no, sorry man :(
[19:24] <DereC> wols, thats what im looking for
[19:24] <defaultro_> wols: worried that it might remove kernel too
[19:25] <fusk> And it seems to only happen for ubuntu, on fedora and fuduntu this does not happen.
[19:25] <ericus> aboudreault, are you satisfied with ZNC? Any guide that I can follow?
[19:25] <arune> hello, which channel can I get help debugging a crash in unity/compiz 12.10?
[19:25] <aboudreault> ericus, yes I am, very easy to setup.
[19:25] <speckmade1> why doesn't my Pidgin allow me to use the SILC chat protocol?.. :-(
[19:25] <aboudreault> ericus, I just follow instruction on the site
[19:26] <aboudreault> and configured my options via the web interface
[19:26] <ericus> aboudreault, okay, thanks a lot! :)
[19:26] <XiaolinDraconis> in xchat how can i switch to dialog window via keyboard?
[19:26] <arune> Im trying to install debug symbols for compiz but failes with broken dependency
[19:26] <Erik_D> arune: what dep?
[19:26] <Erik_D>  
[19:27] <arune> compiz-core-dbgsym : Depends: compiz-core (= 1:0.9.8.4+bzr3407-0ubuntu1) but 1:0.9.8.4-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[19:27] <speckmade1> (maybe I'd rather ask this in the Pidgin chatroom...)
[19:27] <arune> I have added apt source: deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com quantal main restricted universe multiverse
[19:27] <bazhang> XiaolinDraconis, try in #xchat
[19:27] <Erik_D> arune: do you have updates to run or anything?
[19:28] <arune> Erik_D: no
[19:28] <arune> 1:0.9.8.4+bzr3407-0ubuntu1 seems to point to a bazar revision
[19:29] <arune> google gives that more people found that its not possible to install compiz debug symbols but no solution
[19:30] <ericus> Any ideas why gigabit LAN is slow while transfering files from Ubuntu 12.04 to a Windows 2008r2 Server using Windows File Sharing? Max speed about 25MB/s. With NFS on the server the speed is about 60MB/s
[19:30] <Erik_D> arune: No idea, sorry :/
[19:30] <ericus> And in Win 7 on the same machine to the server 90-110MB/s
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> fusk, I can appreciate your argument but it just a assumption. ;)
[19:30] <arune> Erik_D: any clue if there is a better channel to get help at? #ubuntu-unity?
[19:31] <bazhang> arune, #compiz perhaps
[19:31] <Erik_D> ^
[19:31] <arune> Ill try, thanks!
[19:32] <aaro> just testing irssi here.
[19:32] <fusk> wilee-nilee, true.
[19:32] <defaultro_> what is this guys -> title           Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS, memtest86+
[19:33] <defaultro_> kernel of that is pointing to /boot/memtest86+.bin
[19:33] <TheLordOfTime> defaultro_:  it runs memtest86
[19:33] <TheLordOfTime> which is a memory tester among other things
[19:33] <XiaolinDraconis> i know someone just answered me, but i accidently switched channels
[19:33] <defaultro_> ok
[19:33] <aaro> it's memory check tool
[19:34] <defaultro_> i knew it, it was the same as the one for dos.
[19:34] <XiaolinDraconis> how can i switch to a dialog window via keyboard?
[19:34] <defaultro_> i'm trying to figure out which kernel to use since i want to use non-xen kernel
[19:34] <TheLordOfTime> XiaolinDraconis:  the answer was ask in #xchat
[19:34] <TheLordOfTime> XiaolinDraconis:  so go ask in #xchat
[19:34] <XiaolinDraconis> thats fucking beautiful considering i have no mouse
[19:35] <TheLordOfTime> !languate
[19:35] <XiaolinDraconis> thanks asshole
[19:35] <TheLordOfTime> !language
[19:35] <TheLordOfTime> XiaolinDraconis:  /join #xchat
[19:35] <Paul92> Hi. I've just made an update and my ubuntu isn't starting anymore (it shows me just a gray screen). what can i do?
[19:35] <TheLordOfTime> you should learn IRC commands before exploding.
[19:35] <gordonjcp> !attitude | XiaolinDraconis
[19:35] <XiaolinDraconis> i know how to /join
[19:35] <gordonjcp> XiaolinDraconis: also, why on earth are you attempting to use xchat without a mouse?
[19:36] <XiaolinDraconis> i dont have one available atm
[19:36] <gordonjcp> (one might ask why attempt to use xchat *at all*, but that's out of scope here)
[19:36] <XiaolinDraconis> haha good one
[19:36] <bazhang> XiaolinDraconis, just type it in
[19:36] <XiaolinDraconis> cause its default in buntu
[19:36] <XiaolinDraconis> i know how to do that
[19:36] <bazhang> XiaolinDraconis, lets move on
[19:37] <gordonjcp> XiaolinDraconis: kill xchat, install irssi, and use the keyboard for everything
[19:37] <gordonjcp> boom, fixed
[19:37] <XiaolinDraconis> thing is the only populated and helpful channel in all of freenode happens to be #ubuntu
[19:37] <aaro> can someone say a good video editor for linux?
[19:37] <afidegnum> hello, anyone familiar with nginx here? I am dying of a frozen situation of "400 Bad Request Request Header Or Cookie Too Large" error, for the past 5 days now I can't fix it, after many attempts. even #nginx channel couldn't assist. can you pls give a push ?
[19:37] <aaro> and is there one where you could edit text too?
[19:37] <bazhang> aaro, openshot
[19:38] <XiaolinDraconis> gordonjcp, thanks gordan ill give that a go, i managed to open keyboard shortcuts for xchat and dont see an option for switching already open channels
[19:39] <gordonjcp> XiaolinDraconis: try something like ctrl-left and right or something
[19:39] <aaro> thanks,bazhang!
[19:40] <TheLordOfTime> XiaolinDraconis:  ctrl+pgup or ctrl+pgdown if you are using tree format
[19:40] <TheLordOfTime> if tabs, try ctrl+left or ctrl+right
[19:40] <XiaolinDraconis> sorry for the attitude, im sure you can imagine having no mouse makes for a bad day
[19:40] <gordonjcp> does it?
[19:40] <Linkandzelda> hey, guys, im having real trouble with mac being able to boot any usb drives... none of the guides work and are all out dated
[19:40] <TheLordOfTime> its happened to me before.
[19:40] <TheLordOfTime> i don't explode on people from it though.
[19:40] <TheLordOfTime> XiaolinDraconis:  ^
[19:40]  * gordonjcp rummages around to find a mouse
[19:40] <XiaolinDraconis> useful tips are still useless
[19:41] <gordonjcp> at some point I unplugged my mouse to plug something else in and never got around to reconnecting it
[19:41] <gordonjcp> but, I'm using Unity, which is pretty good for keyboard shortcuts
[19:41] <Main-User> i have been advised to switch to unbuntu what are the main benefits from switching from windows to unbuntu
[19:41] <XiaolinDraconis> gordonjcp, had this been windows i wouldnt have a problem navigating with a keyboard
[19:41] <gordonjcp> XiaolinDraconis: because you're more familiar with it
[19:42] <gordonjcp> XiaolinDraconis: had I been on Windows I wouldn't have been able to navigate it at all, with or without a mouse
[19:42] <gaby> hello every body - iam trying to create a USB windows XP installer - i use unetbootin - but its asking me for the kernel - i dont know what to do - any help  ????
[19:42] <gordonjcp> Windows is just baffling and weirdly inconsistent
[19:42] <XiaolinDraconis> which is why i posted a question to #ubuntu, as all of you are far more familiar with this than most windows users are with windows
[19:42] <TheLordOfTime> gaby:  did you download an ISO of Ubuntu first, and tell unetbootin to burn that ISO?
[19:42] <TheLordOfTime> rather than using its built in download-and-install options
[19:43] <XiaolinDraconis> Main-User, i find the best benefit, ive never had malware or virus infect my system, and when searching for support i dont get a lot of garbage in results
[19:43] <gaby> this is what i installed  " theLordOfTime"   sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:44] <savid> Hi, I'm using 12.10, and I'm having issues with frequent disconnects of my wireless connection.  Any time I seem to loose connectivity, I ping my router and get no response.  Turning wifi off and on again fixes it, but only temporarily.  Anyone experience this?
[19:46] <savid> I'm on a macbook pro and am using the proprietary broadcom firmware
[19:46] <savid> (b43)
[19:46] <gaby> TheLordOfTime :  here is what i used         http://askubuntu.com/questions/192096/which-software-should-i-use-on-ubuntu-to-create-a-windows-xp-liveusb
[19:47] <Main-User> but i take it there is still a chance u can get infected with malware/virus issues with unbuntu but just not as common
[19:48] <gaby> hello every body - iam trying to create a USB windows XP installer - i use unetbootin - but its asking me for the kernel - i dont know what to do - any help  ????
[19:48] <gordonjcp> Main-User: no, there aren't any
[19:48] <Linkandzelda> i think viruses on linuc are really uncomment, there is no target audience for hackers
[19:48] <gordonjcp> Linkandzelda: not really true
[19:49] <gordonjcp> Linkandzelda: there are vastly more Linux machines in the world, sitting there connected to the Internet, than there are Windows machines
[19:49] <ix_> !tv
[19:49] <gordonjcp> Linkandzelda: most sane people don't connect Windows machines directly to an Internet connection, they go through some sort of firewall or router
[19:49] <gordonjcp> Linkandzelda: guess what that runs?
[19:50] <Main-User> is that due to how much ubuntu is used.  I have heard that there are some malware/viruses for ubuntu
[19:50] <Linkandzelda> gordonjcp: i'm fully aware that most of the world's servers runs linux, they they are vastly more protected than the average linux desktop user
[19:51] <bazhang> !virus | Main-User
[19:51] <gordonjcp> Linkandzelda: and the vast majority of ADSL modems and wifi routers
[19:51] <bazhang> Main-User, no. please have a read.
[19:51] <Linkandzelda> gordonjcp: on my servers I have full on protection, but on my desktops i dont even have a firewall or anti virus installed lol
[19:51] <gordonjcp> Linkandzelda: "full on protection", like what?
[19:51] <evilbetty> good morning
[19:52] <OpenSorce> Here's a crazy question, I shoved Lubuntu down this Compaq TC1000's windows compatible little throat. I'm thinking 10.04 is too much for it I want to go with 9.01. Is there an easy way to downgrade?
[19:52] <gordonjcp> Linkandzelda: I stuck fail2ban on it because I got annoyed with Chinese skript kiddies hammering away at port 22, but that's about it
[19:52] <Linkandzelda> gordonjcp: well things like CSF, clamav, spam assassin etc.
[19:52] <gordonjcp> OpenSorce: nope
[19:52] <bazhang> OpenSorce, 9.10? its end of life and not supported
[19:52] <gordonjcp> OpenSorce: that's unsupported now
[19:52] <irocksu> hi
[19:52] <gordonjcp> OpenSorce: what are the specs of the machine?
[19:52] <evilbetty> hehe chinese scriptkiddies meh
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> OpenSorce, There is no desktop release before 10.04 that is not end of life.
[19:53] <gordonjcp> Linkandzelda: oh, are you handling mail for Windows machines?
[19:53] <evilbetty> i unbanned them after a week and they're still trying me
[19:53] <bazhang> !ot | evilbetty
[19:53] <evilbetty> we dont they give up after a few hours ban
[19:53] <OpenSorce> Transmeta Crusoe TC5800 proc, 256mb ram
[19:53] <bazhang> evilbetty, wrong channel
[19:53] <evilbetty> :p
[19:53] <gordonjcp> evilbetty: I want to patch fail2ban to respond with things that'll trigger the Great Firewall
[19:53] <Linkandzelda> gordonjcp: IMAP in general, as well as wen hosting and dns
[19:53] <Linkandzelda> web*
[19:54] <evilbetty> well it happens on ubuntu server ;)
[19:54] <gordonjcp> Linkandzelda: right, but I take it clamav is for scanning mail for people on Windows?
[19:54] <OpenSorce> I know I know, old and unsupported version but this thing is too slow on 10.04
[19:54] <gordonjcp> OpenSorce: it's going to be slow on just about anything
[19:54] <bazhang> evilbetty, this is NOT the random chat channel. please stop it
[19:54] <Linkandzelda> gordonjcp: I guess it scans mail and files as well
[19:54] <gordonjcp> OpenSorce: there is absolutely no difference in speed between any of the versions of Ubuntu, assuming you run roughly the same UI
[19:55] <gordonjcp> OpenSorce: you should try 12.04 Lubuntu
[19:55] <OpenSorce> Bad advice, my proc is not supported past 10.04 :-)
[19:55] <OpenSorce> Transmeta Crusoe TC5800 proc, 256mb ram
[19:56] <evilbetty> i'll make it ontopic tho, when i install fail2ban and reboot, my ubuntu server edition never comes up again, if i remove fail2ban from the startup services my ubuntu box doesn't die
[19:56] <gordonjcp> OpenSorce: sounds like you might want to try some other distro then
[19:56] <evilbetty> happened 2x so i doubt its coincidence, and as its a VPS i lost all access to it
[19:56] <gordonjcp> OpenSorce: you could get something like buildroot and roll your own embedded-ish environment for it
[19:56] <gogeta1> gordonjcp: who what where
[19:57] <OpenSorce> Bah... been swearing by Ubuntu since I gave up making my own distros with LFS... I may try DSL
[19:57] <gordonjcp> gogeta1: hm?
[19:57] <willdabeast> Is there a way to see all my processes running? Ubuntu is running very glitchy
[19:57] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: do what hua
[19:57] <evilbetty> and its not iptables blocking, its actually ubuntu not booting fully, but without real access i cannot see what happens
[19:57] <Linkandzelda> willdabeast: use top command or isntall htop?
[19:58] <OpenSorce> gogeta1, LFS? Linux From Scratch? May be before your time :-)
[19:58] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: so its not ok
[19:58] <gogeta1> no
[19:58] <evilbetty> ps aux > textfile, and then take ur time to read the textfile?
[19:58] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: came in halfway in the convo
[19:59] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: so your trying to do a lfs ubuntu?
[19:59] <evilbetty> ah well, i got offtopic remarks, but noone does even the answer to respond on my ontopic issue :)
[19:59] <OpenSorce> gogeta1, No worries, I was trying to downgrade from 10.04 on this tablet with Transmeta Crusoe TC5800 proc, 256mb ram
[19:59] <OpenSorce> gogeta1, I've been assured that the earlier distros will not run any faster so I'll leave it alone
[20:00] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: may i suggest bodhi linux for that
[20:00] <evilbetty> i probably shouldnt be saying it in this channel, but instead of trying to make ubuntu work faster isn't it easier using debian?
[20:00] <evilbetty> it looks and feels like ubnutu but is faster
[20:00] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: well unity is a resoruse hog
[20:00] <OpenSorce> Still runs 5 times faster than Windows did. Yeah I've been looking at bohi
[20:00] <Kartagis> !xen
[20:00] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[20:00] <OpenSorce> *bodhi
[20:00] <Linkandzelda> much admit, debian is blazing fast, sorry for this off topic remark though xD
[20:00] <OpenSorce> gogeta1, Using Lubuntu 10.04 on it atm
[20:00] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: it uses e17 fast and nice
[20:00] <tella> hi
[20:01] <evilbetty> but seriously since the topic was fail2ban when i came in did other ppl notice ubuntu server not booting fully anymore after installing fail2ban and leaving it in startup services?
[20:01] <evilbetty> 12.04 that is
[20:01] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: they use here own softwhere composting rather then use slow cpu falllbacks 12.10 uses
[20:01] <evilbetty> if i remove fail2ban from startupservices after install and before reboot everything goes fine, but if not i loose the box completely
[20:02] <OpenSorce> Just such a pain to put anything on this tablet. No removable media drives, will not boot from USB... Netboot worked after several attempts though :-)
[20:02] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: wile still being nearly as light as lxde
[20:02] <bazhang> gogeta1, thats enough
[20:02] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: outch
[20:02] <OpenSorce> I'm gonna see if they have a Netboot iso for Bodhi
[20:02] <squeezed> is there an Atheros mini-PCI 802.11 G/N wifi card that is known to work with 12.xx
[20:03] <evilbetty> anyway have fun im sure i'll find a chan without ircgestapo
[20:03] <OpenSorce> Ouch, bodhi doesn't even have a channel here that I can see...
[20:03] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: its based on ubuntu
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> squeezed, The is a certified wifi card wiki, but it does not have every one that will work.
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> there*
[20:04] <OpenSorce> Well that's encouraging...
[20:04] <bazhang> gogeta1, and its not supported here, thus offtopic. please take it to PM with OpenSorce
[20:04] <gogeta1> OpenSorce: its like a base install with a wm and a few basics
[20:04] <Evdb> hey guys I have a dumb question: I know ls displays contant of directory, but what does ls -l do?
[20:04] <Linkandzelda> so I'm getting the weirdest behaviour. I booted the 12.10 live cd and selected try ubuntu without installing. and it gives me a flashing "_" after hanging for about a minute
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> OpenSorce, #bodhilinux
[20:05] <squeezed> wilee-nilee, I was looking for 1st hand reports cause I used that wiki to pick an intel card, but it has regression bugs in 12.xx
[20:05] <OpenSorce> bazhang, so sorry for the off-topic :-P
[20:05] <Evdb> *content is what I meant
[20:05] <OpenSorce> wilee-nilee, thanks :-)
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> squeezed, Ah well you will get spanked for polling, just a heads up.
[20:06] <Evdb> I know ls displays content of directory, but what does ls -l do?
[20:06] <jrib> Evdb: it displays the contents with some extra information.  « info ls » to learn more
[20:06] <rolling> 4244533000002525	 02/14 	114	 RALUCA DUDAS 	ADDRESS	 CITY 	state	 zip code	 ROMANIA
[20:07] <yeats> Evdb: -l is "long" listing - see 'man ls'
[20:07] <squeezed> the vendor I bought from is willing to exchange for another card... so can I find something that works? ...or do I wait ands see if bugs several years old get fixed?
[20:07] <Evdb> jrib yeats Thanks guys ;) What in general do the extra letters after a command do?
[20:08] <paladinn> hello, how is the best method or tutorial to send e-mail in ubuntu for a dummie ?
[20:08] <jrib> Evdb: they're options.  They modify the behavior in some way usually
[20:08] <jrib> Evdb: it's like the "preferences" window in firefox except for the command line
[20:08] <Evdb> jrib Thaaaanks ;)
[20:08] <Evdb> jrib Ah k! Great :)
[20:09] <ElixirVitae> Is there any place where I can learn in-depth information about disk partitioning?
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> paladinn, sending a email is the same for all OS's basically.
[20:12] <py_can> I cannot login to my ubuntu anymore. After trying to login I get a blackscreen for 2seconds and then it goes back to the login prompt. I'm under a guest account now
[20:12] <py_can> adding a new user didnt work
[20:13] <defaultro_> what tool can i use to spike cpu? I'm testing something
[20:13] <py_can> as in, I get the same thing
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> py_can: how much free space do your partitions have?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> defaultro_: system monitor is in dash
[20:14] <py_can> ActionParsnip: more than enough i'd say
[20:14] <py_can> how to check in the guest acc?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> py_can: run:  df -h
[20:14] <py_can> ActionParsnip: 114 gb avi
[20:15] <funch> any hardware related help channels here ?
[20:15] <Main-User> thanx guys you've been a lot of help
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> py_can: do you have a separate patition for /home ?
[20:15] <bazhang> funch, ##hardware
[20:15] <defaultro_> i don't have gui
[20:15] <py_can> ActionParsnip: i dont think so
[20:15] <py_can> note im under a guest acc atm
[20:15] <py_can> and my regular home dir is encrypted
[20:16] <lahwran> anyone familiar with this error? I got it after building psensors to add the ATI support: (psensor:1945): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported
[20:16] <lahwran> then it dumps core
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> py_can: i've not used encryptfs, maybe others can help
[20:17] <fusk> how does on list a diretory ?
[20:17] <torontoyes> I installed ndiswrapper and loaded a driver.  As a result, my system hangs on boot.  Is there anything i can do from the live cd to uninstall ndiswrapper?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> fusk: ls
[20:17] <torontoyes> fusk: list a directory?  y[ou mean ls?
[20:17] <py_can> ActionParsnip: in my last session i accidentally removed gnome-panel.. then switched to ubuntu 2d and in that session i reinstalled gnome-panel because i lost my unity @ login prompt. from there reinstalled gnome-panel and fiddled with nvidia display settings which made both my screens black
[20:17] <py_can> then i went into tty1 and killed lightdm, restarted it. now i cant get into it anymore
[20:18] <fusk> ActionParsnip, thank you.
[20:18] <torontoyes> Anyone help with Ndiswrapper?
[20:18] <trism> lahwran: you can't link both gtk2 and gtk3 libs into a binary (as for how it happened, hard to know without seeing how you modified psensors)
[20:18] <Benkinooby> hi, i can run /sbin/ifconfig but i can not run ifconfig. where do i have to add the PATH?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Benkinooby: export PATH=$PATH:/sbin
[20:19] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: will that be permanent?
[20:19] <lahwran> trism: I didn't modify it, just did configure options
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Benkinooby: you'll need to add it in ~/.bashrc      what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[20:20] <svspl> Benkinooby, if you put if in /etc/profile or so
[20:21] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: precise ... i did a minimal setup with fluxbox - it's not a default setup. why?
[20:21] <Benkinooby> svspl: thank you - i will follow ActionParsnip advice and add it to ,bashrc
[20:21] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: is there a way to uninstall ndiswrapper from live cd?
[20:21] <Linkandzelda> damn guys none of my macs are booting the live CD, anything i can do? ;-;
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: sure, i'd use a wired connection. Or you can grab the debs online and install them
[20:22] <wols> !mac | Linkandzelda
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Benkinooby: I'd have thought it would be default
[20:22] <Evdb> Guys what does the 'dpkg' command do?
[20:22] <wols> Evdb: it installs software
[20:22] <Evdb> wols what's the difference with apt-get
[20:23] <defaultro_> stress tool worked great!
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Evdb: installs, removes and queries the packages
[20:23] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: I had no problem  installing it,.. but after install of the driver with ndiswrapper - i, my system hangs on boot
[20:23] <willdabeast> Unity is slightly glitchy for me right now, anything I can do to make it smooth out?
[20:23] <wols> Evdb: apt-get downloads software incl. dependencies and does conflict resolution then calls dpkg
[20:23] <Linkandzelda> wols: none of it works, it boots the disc and shows the menu, i select try it black screens or i select install and it black screens
[20:23] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: thats why I booted with live cd to recover the system
[20:23] <aaro> *totally offtopic*: what properties you except from a chat client?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Evdb: dpkg does the installing work, apt-get does the dependancy matching and so forth
[20:24] <Evdb> wols Hmm I don't understand it fully but I'm a real beginner :s ActionParsnip
[20:24] <bazhang> aaro, #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:24] <aaro> sorry, didn't know  but thanks for that too :)
[20:24] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: thought so too... but since my system is far aways from default you shouldn't mind it that much... after all it is solved now. how can i set the modded .bashrc to action?
[20:24] <bcuraboy> hi guys.what can i do about this?   Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page: The NVIDIA X driver on bcuraboy:0.0 is not new enough to support the nvidia-settings Display Configuration page.
[20:25] <wols> bcuraboy: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[20:26] <bcuraboy> as sudo?
[20:26] <Thirtysixway> Is there an irc channel for ubuntu cloud?
[20:27] <fusk> How do you create a file in etc/pm/sleep.d ? rightclicking and create doesn't seem to be an option
[20:27] <willdabeast> Unity is slightly glitchy for me right now, anything I can do to make it smooth out?
[20:27] <Linkandzelda> "Choose you language and and select "Try Ubuntu". This won't make any changes to your Mac." <- but nowhere does it mention that this gives me a black screen
[20:27] <bcuraboy> wols, may i pm you?
[20:28] <wols> !pastebin
[20:28] <bcuraboy> ok
[20:28] <bartart3d> hi all, I've got a problem to get pidgin installed here...
[20:29] <bartart3d> software center keeps asking for a dvd, while I don't have one...
[20:29] <bcuraboy> wols, http://pastebin.com/1iyaVJHE
[20:29] <bazhang> bartart3d, so remove the DVD from the sources.list
[20:29] <bartart3d> I did
[20:29] <torontoyes> Linkandzelda: after using ndiswrapper with a driver for my wna3100 wireless adapter, My system hangs on boot.  I have booted into a live cd.  From Live cd, is there a way to disable the driver and uninstall ndiswraper
[20:29] <bazhang> and apt-get update bartart3d
[20:29] <OerHeks> fusk touch /path/to/file
[20:30] <bartart3d> doesn't help
[20:30] <Linkandzelda> torontoyes: not sure why you are asking me, i wouldnt know, but if you can get into a terminal like single user mode you can do anything, i would presume
[20:30] <bazhang> bartart3d, paste.ubuntu.com your sources.list
[20:30] <nelson777br> is there a unity specific channel ?
[20:31] <torontoyes> Linkandzelda: the recovery options I have don't allow write access..
[20:31] <willdabeast> Unity is slightly glitchy for me right now, anything I can do to make it smooth out?
[20:31] <fusk> thanks OerHeks
[20:31] <Satorisanja> Hallo
[20:31] <Linkandzelda> torontoyes: i see, but what if you boot into single user mode from your hard disc and not the cd?
[20:31] <torontoyes> Linkandzelda: how do I do that?
[20:32] <torontoyes> at the moment. I am in live cd with access to the drive
[20:32] <PK> 1738 nicks? That's totally crazy man
[20:32] <Linkandzelda> torontoyes: thats something i dont know, as i never did it, but it involves adding some line to the bootup of grub, ive only done it once on a centos server
[20:32] <torontoyes> Linkandzelda: understood.. will try that and let you  know
[20:33] <torontoyes> Linkandzelda: thank you
[20:33] <bartart3d> wait a sec, I got it, thanks.. I removed the dvd's from the software sources, but there still was a line in sources.list, that's weird
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Specificities are helpful. ;)
[20:34] <fusk> OerHeks, how do you edit that file, saving with leafpad doesn't work
[20:34] <Evdb> what does the -e do in echo -en?
[20:35] <nelson777br> how can I make unity immediately recognize the changes I made with "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist" command ?
[20:35] <OerHeks> fusk, outside your ~/home you need sudo to get priv. so ' sudo touch /path/to/file" and edit " gksudo gedit /path/to/file"
[20:35] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, my man, whats up, well for example, the way you can scroll up and down on your mousewheel on unity and it does that smooth animation. It doesn't do that very successfully any more, meaning it seems like the framerate is low.
[20:36] <fusk> thank you
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I'm not sure I can help I use gnome 3 myself, and am in W7 at the moment. ;)
[20:37] <trism> nelson777br: you could try killing unity-panel-service, but I would just log out/back in myself
[20:37] <cellardoor> Hi there. I have a brand new Zoostorm laptop, it's a great machine except that for some reason WiFi is not working... I can't turn it on with the Fn-F11 Hotkey, and it isn't even registered in ifconfig. Help would be very appreciated.
[20:38] <Linkandzelda> This is the thread I posted to request support, if anyone wants to check it out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12331535#post12331535
[20:39] <Evdb> I really don't understand what de 'e' does in 'echo -e'
[20:39] <OerHeks> man echo
[20:39] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, mk well there's the problem, ubuntu just crashed due to the x server I believe. Are you very familiar with nvidia?
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> cellardoor, Try these two commands and see if anything shows  lspci | grep -i wireless
[20:39] <wilee-nilee>   lspci | grep Broadcom
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Not really I have never had to mess with them.
[20:40] <cellardoor> wilee-nilee, thanks for responding. Nothing returned for either commands.
[20:41] <fusk> i'm trying to edit a file in etc/pm/sleep.d but gsudo gedit doesn't work.
[20:41] <Evdb> oh cmon
[20:42] <BluesKaj> fusk , gksudo
[20:42] <willdabeast> Is anyone very familiar with Nvidia X Server Settings?
[20:42] <fusk> BluesKaj, exactly, didn't work.
[20:43] <OpenSorce> willdabeast, a bit. What's up?
[20:43] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/echo.1.html   <------ Evdb
[20:44] <BluesKaj> fusk, /etc/pm/sleep.d
[20:44] <willdabeast> opensorce, well two things, 1 is I just got logged off automatically with what seemed to be an xserver issue. 2, I am having problems with Unity, I did mess around with compiz and I hope it's not that.
[20:44] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, you may be able to help with the second part of ^
[20:45] <Evdb> bazhang what is meant with interpretation of backslash escapes?
[20:45] <fusk> BluesKaj, yes, that's where the file is stored.
[20:45] <OpenSorce> willdabeast, using a driver you got from Nvidia's website or one from the repository?
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I would say that messing with compiz can cause problems, ou can reset it to stock though.
[20:45] <BluesKaj> willdabeast, did you create a nvidia-xconfig file ?
[20:46] <willdabeast> Opensorce - yea I have the correct driver
[20:46] <willdabeast> BluesKaj I did a while ago yes
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I can't say if it is the root of the problem though.
[20:46] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee yea I know I reset unity in terminal, could that have been the issue?
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, What release is this 12.10
[20:46] <willdabeast> because at one point unity and the above panel didn't even show up
[20:46] <willdabeast> 12.04
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, You want to run that command from a alt-f2 not the terminal.
[20:48] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee ahhh, so do you think that is the root of the problem? or at least for the unity issue?
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, as well there is compiz --replace to reset it.  Not sure as far as all the problems
[20:49] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee ok I think that should work, should both commands be done in alt f2? or does compiz not matter
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I gave up on unity and compiz about a year ago.
[20:50] <fusk> i'm trying to edit a file in etc/pm/sleep.d but gksudo gedit doesn't work
[20:50] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee what are you using now? docky or something?
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, gnome 3 and cairo dock
[20:50] <OpenSorce> fusk why not do sudo nano /etc/pm/sleep.d from a terminal?
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, the gnome-shell
[20:51] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee hmm I'd be willing to try that out, Unity still feels like it's in beta to me.
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Honestly I use synapse to find apps usually and the cairo-dock for the stuff I open often.
[20:53] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee yea I do have synapse, It's just sitting there right now though haha, wouldn't mind using it for once.
[20:53] <fusk> OpenSorce, how does the options work, i tried typing ^o but it didn't save it.
[20:55] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee any place in particular to find gnome 3? I think at this point you already know how new I am to this stuff
[20:55] <bcuraboy> hi guys.what can i do about this?   Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page: The NVIDIA X driver on bcuraboy:0.0 is not new enough to support the nvidia-settings Display Configuration page.
[20:55] <willdabeast> bcuraboy do you have the correct driver activated?
[20:56] <bcuraboy> yes,i'm using the recommended from the system
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, If you want to install it, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell  you also get the gnome fallback with kit as well the pseudo gnome 2 desktop as a choice in the login drop down
[20:56] <bcuraboy> when i go to additional drivers i've installed the recommended
[20:56] <wols> bcuraboy: you have mixed packages it seems. which ubuntu are you running?
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> it*
[20:56] <bcuraboy> 12.04
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Unity actually sits on top of gnome 3 so the shell is just a few more pckgs.
[20:57] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee well apparently I already have it *facepalm*
[20:57] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee haha yea I guess I'm good then, just need cairo and to get rid of the excess.
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> bcuraboy: tried:   sudo nvidia-xconfig
[20:59] <bcuraboy> done it now.should i logout or reboot?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> bcuraboy: i'd reboot, if you get no disaply then boot to root recovery mode and delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:00] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee any particular way I should remove unity and compiz? I feel like everything I try and get rid of on here is like removing an antivirus program on windows.
[21:00] <bcuraboy> ok.just tell me if necessary,how to get in root recovery
[21:00] <nconrads_> Upgrading 12.04 to 12.10 and getting stuck on flashplugin-installer.  Killing job puts system into position where it supposedly requires 'dpkg --configure -a'. Any method available to prevent Ubuntu from trying to get flashplugin?
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I would not remove them they are rather small, and doing this is just a problem waiting to happen with dependencies.
[21:01] <fusk> i'm trying to edit a file in etc/pm/sleep.d but gksudo gedit doesn't work
[21:01] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee ok well I guess I will just reset them then like you said, btw cairo is awesome great call.
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I like the cairo-dock as far as docks go.
[21:02] <hayate> hello,
[21:03] <OpenSorce> fusk, ^x and it will ask you to save
[21:03] <fusk> OpenSorce, didn't work
[21:04] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee so is there anyway to at least make unity not visible? I'd rather not have 2 docks
[21:04] <dr_willis> that means ctrl x  fusk..... ;-)
[21:04] <OpenSorce> fusk yeah, that means press and hold ctrl and hit x one time
[21:04] <dr_willis> unity panel can autohide
[21:05] <hayate> someone help me, i always fail to install, with error E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open(2: No such file or directory)
[21:05] <fusk> dr_willis,  that worked. thanks
[21:05] <hayate> dr_willis: help me
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, Try the gnome shell that is where I use the cairo-dock.
[21:05] <torontoyes> Does anyone know what this means?
[21:05] <torontoyes> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[21:05] <torontoyes> Password: _
[21:05] <hayate> wilee-nilee: help me
[21:05] <OpenSorce> fusk, sorry man I thought you knew what ^ meant. My bad :-P
[21:05] <torontoyes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1324848/
[21:05] <dr_willis> hayate:  with?
[21:06] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee ah so you mean at login just changing there, gotcha. Thanks bud :]
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> hayate, Sure, seek professional help. ;)
[21:06] <torontoyes> My system halts on boot with the following prompt
[21:06] <tata> what is, for my  video driver "debugging symbols" ?
[21:06] <hayate> someone help me, i always fail to install, with error E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open(2: No such file or directory) dr_willis wilee-nilee
[21:07] <fusk> OpenSorce, no problem :)
[21:07] <torontoyes> dr_willis: Any idea what this means on boot.  As my system hangs here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1324848/
[21:07] <dr_willis> c
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: do you use encryptfs
[21:07] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: I don't think so
[21:07] <hayate> dr_willis wilee-nilee: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpk), are you root ?
[21:08] <hayate> dr_willis: thats the problem
[21:08] <dr_willis> hayate: and are you using sudo?
[21:08] <hayate> dr_willis: yes, even using root user, i can't install
[21:09] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: Any ideas?  I got this message after using recovery to clean some files
[21:09] <dr_willis> is there a /var/lib/dpkg  ?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | hayate
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> hayate, Personally I wont help you, your nick is never the same and I believe you are running backtrack and continually use this channel.
[21:11] <torontoyes> wilee-nilee: Do you what it means when the system hangs at this point? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1324848/
[21:12] <drewh> hey everyone! I'm having an issue I THINK with Unity. I was trying to get my NVIDIA thing to display my two monitors as separate X screens (rather than twinview) and now my UI is a bit weird. some of the chrome is coming up black and the alt+tab is not pretty
[21:12] <drewh> Ubuntu 12.04
[21:12] <drewh> animations are not working, etc.
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> torontoyes, AS a guess it looks like a fsck was run, is it asking for a password?
[21:13] <torontoyes> yes
[21:13] <torontoyes> wilee-nilee: I typed password, lol, but nothing
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> torontoyes, Ah, not sure really.
[21:13] <hayate> tadi petunjuknya wilee-nilee, no .. i'm not using backtrack
[21:14] <torontoyes> wilee-nilee: is there a way to skip this.. whatever this is?
[21:15] <torontoyes> what I mean is.. how do I see why this is coming up and stop whatever this is so that it skips it?
[21:15] <hayate> dr_willis: thanks, i would try that
[21:15] <torontoyes> wilee-nilee: is there a way to skip this in the boot process?
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> torontoyes, I would not know really I have not had this problem, I generally know what I have had to do, and I keep my OS's cloned and in good shape and don't mess with problems past the time it takes to reload a clone.
[21:15] <torontoyes> wilee-nilee: lol
[21:16] <torontoyes> Understood
[21:16] <torontoyes> Thanks anyway
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> sure, ;)
[21:17] <drewh> umm it looks like unity 3D stopped working, can anyone tell me how to enable unity 3d?
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> drewh, You have any back leading to this state?
[21:17] <mpavel> anyone have any idea what to do if only guest account is enabled on new install?
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> mpavel, are you sure what is the evidence of this?
[21:18] <drewh> wilee-nilee: back leading to this state?
[21:19] <tipocomico> hi can someone help me? just installed 12.04 lts, and system freezes after 5 to 10 min. error is as follows acpi error: method parse/execution failed [\_SB.PCI0.VGA_.AF03]
[21:19] <mpavel> it's the only account displayed at login screen
[21:19] <drewh> I changed some settings in my NVIDIA x service and now it appears to have stopped working
[21:19] <drewh> it was working fine up until now
[21:19] <mpavel> wilee-nilee: switched to ctrl+alt+f1 to terminal tried logging in as defined user in setup, no luck, tried root, no luck
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> drewh, In other words have you done anything that has led you to not having the animations, like graphic drivers messing with compiz....etc
[21:19] <drewh> I was messing with compiz, but I've reverted that
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> mpavel, Is this a direct install or a remote?
[21:20] <drewh> I only changed some key bindings in compiz
[21:20] <drewh> I did turn some plugins on then off...
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> drewh, Compiz is known to not follow fixes always logout then back in or reboot.
[21:21] <mpavel> wilee-nilee: direct install, but with problems
[21:21] <drewh> I've rebooted a number of times
[21:21] <TecnoFes> hello
[21:21] <mpavel> wilee-nilee: tried to install (lubuntu 12.10) several times, from USB & CD and no luck. then I booted from live CD and ran Boot Repair, which allowed me to FINALLY boot the system up (which I'm using now) but only from the guest account :(
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> mpavel, If it were me I would just install again trying to fix it will take longer probably, but I just go with time spent generally against fixing
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> mpavel, This a fairly new computer possibly using a UEFI bios as far as the boot problem.
[21:23] <mpavel> wilee-nilee: yeah, but I already went through the install process 5 times :(( I might try something else like Linux Mint - it's my dad's old computer that I wanted to install something light
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> mpavel, Mint is ubuntu in drag basically, with way less support just a heads up.
[21:24] <Linkandzelda> how does ubuntu handle multiple monitors?
[21:24] <Linkandzelda> or rather "how well" ?
[21:24] <mpavel> wilee-nilee: ok, thanks, I'm off, getting late and no more patience to solve this, thanks for your help and a good day/night ahead! :)
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> mpavel, YOu might run the bootscript so we can see whats there, the bootrepiar generates a bootinfo url
[21:25] <drewh> Linkandzelda: I'm running two monitors with little issue
[21:25] <TecnoFes> ?
[21:25] <mpavel> wilee-nilee: I have the Boot Repair pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1324811/
[21:25] <Linkandzelda> drewh: little issue? means there is a small issue?
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> mpavel, Thanks hold on
[21:27] <drewh> Linkandzelda: I haven't had issues with it
[21:27] <simplepro> How do I convert .mdf
[21:29] <iceroot> simplepro: mdf2iso
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> mpavel, I would post that script on the ubuntu forums with boot repair in the header, the maker of that app is there daily and a handful of regulars that know this stuff as well, I see a few anomalies but this needs one who knows more. ;)
[21:30] <simplepro> y thank u
[21:30] <torontoyes> what file do I edit in order to skip certain things in my boot process?
[21:31] <mpavel> wilee-nilee: ok, thank you again for your help!
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> mpavel, If you do the forum make sure the script posted represents the set exactly.
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> setup*
[21:32] <mpavel> wilee-nilee: ok, I'll make sure - if I retry setup I will be a different one for sure
[21:32] <paul__> hello
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> mpavel, cool, hope you get it working.
[21:35] <simplepro> where does mdf2iso put its output
[21:36] <drewh> all right, so I'm pretty sure that somehow I'm stuck in unity 2d
[21:36] <drewh> how do I re-enable unity 3d?
[21:36] <ekrem_2133e> hi all! :)
[21:37] <drewh> hi ekrem_2133e
[21:37] <ekrem_2133e> I need to ask something about GRUB.
[21:37] <simplepro> hi :)
[21:38] <lonewulf> Does anyone know how to integrate bitdefneder into nautilus on Ubuntu 12.04
[21:39] <|Anthony|> I have a logitech c270h which has a resolution of upto 1280x720. I'm having trouble with it atm. cheese can't open it. camorama can but it doesn't get full resolution.
[21:39] <|Anthony|> any thoughts on this?
[21:39] <blackshirt> hello, i have a problem adding new network connection within network manager applet, with broadband connection, with i try to apply, window box appeared with this error: Failed to add/activate connection,  (32) Not authorized to control networking.
[21:39] <ekrem_2133e> MBR is installig on the first sector of HDD, right? Also GRUB is installing there too. I mena when we install Ubuntu with GRUB, it removes the MBR?
[21:39] <blackshirt> hello, i have a problem adding new network connection within network manager applet, with broadband connection, with i try to apply, window box appeared with this error: Failed to add/activate connection,  (32) Not authorized to control networking.  anyone can help me ?
[21:39] <|Anthony|> lonewulf, use clamav instead of those 3rd party av
[21:40] <blackshirt> hello
[21:40] <lonewulf> jantony is clamav really better then bitdefender?
[21:40] <guntbert> !repeat | blackshirt
[21:41] <blackshirt> guntbert: can you help me ?
[21:41] <|Anthony|> lonewulf, idk about better, but it is good. realize though that av protection can only protect against known viruses.
[21:41] <guntbert> blackshirt: sadly no (at least at the moment)
[21:42] <blackshirt> guntbert: thanks, maybe some suggestions
[21:42] <blackshirt> :D
[21:42] <lonewulf> |Anthony| , I realize that I am also wondering whether or not I am just being over protective.
[21:43] <|Anthony|> lonewulf, meh... i tried bitdefender tbh and it was not very helpful. clam was able to find things that that didn't
[21:43] <|Anthony|> same is true when doing customer clean ups...
[21:44] <|Anthony|> i've use mse, notron, bitdefender, avira or w/e that is. none were able to find things that clam did
[21:44] <|Anthony|> not false positives mind you
[21:45] <lonewulf> |Anthony|, good point and as for your cheese problem, I had a difficult time trying to get my webcam working with it. I ran an upgrade to 12.04 and it works now.
[21:45] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, do you know much about changing the icons on cairo? Essentially I wanted to just replace the program 'guake' with the terminal program but leaving the terminal icon there.
[21:46] <|Anthony|> lonewulf, i'm already on 12.04
[21:46] <|Anthony|> :/
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I forget if I did. ;)
[21:46] <|Anthony|> idk, it just wont go into full hd
[21:46] <lonewulf> |Anthony|, have you tried re installing cheese?
[21:46] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee haha alright, not that important thanks.
[21:46] <|Anthony|> lonewulf, of course ;)
[21:48] <TobiasTheViking> i'm having this weird issue after upgrading to 12.10 where xorg will go to 87% cpu on a core2duo 2ghz doing nothing
[21:48] <TobiasTheViking> by nothing i mean, one terminal(9 tabs) and one system monitor is all that is launched
[21:48] <TobiasTheViking> it jumps a bit, at 12% now, but was 87% when i joined. and gives a quite noticable lag.
[21:48] <lonewulf> |Anthony|, I am sorry I could not help, I am however enrolling in a computer class at my college and I will be focusing on Linux and programming, However right now my knowledge is limited.
[21:50] <Rounin> Hello! I've upgraded to... Quantal with kernel version 3.2.0-18-generic, and now I can't mount FAT filesystems because NLS support isn't enabled in the kernel
[21:50] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, have you tried cairo-dock 3.1?
[21:50] <Rounin> "Codepage 437 is missing" it says
[21:50] <Rounin> In dmesg
[21:51] <Linkandzelda> im at my wits end now, both my macs refuse to boot the live cd even with rEFIt installed
[21:51] <iceroot> Rounin: you are not using the latest kernel for 12.04
[21:51] <iceroot> !info linux-image precise
[21:52] <iceroot> Rounin: 3.2.0.30-32
[21:52] <Rounin> Well, shouldn't it work with all kernels, iceroot?
[21:52] <iceroot> Rounin: yes
[21:52] <pangur> How do I go about finding and installing  a C79 [GeForce 9100M G]  please?
[21:52] <iceroot> Rounin: but its always good when facing bugs to install updates first
[21:53] <pangur> How do I go about finding and installing  a C79 [GeForce 9100M G] nvidia driver  please? is what I meant to say.
[21:53] <dr_willis> pangur:  the nvidia-current packatge/drivers dident work?
[21:53] <pangur> I had win7/ubuntu and now only have ubuntu.
[21:54]  * dr_willis isent sure what windows has to do with it...
[21:55] <pangur> That provides a link to several drivers quoting £££ dr_willis.  Is that what I should expect to happen?
[21:55] <pangur> nvidia-current tab
[21:56] <pangur> gives me links to non-free drivers
[21:56] <autojack> can anyone help me out with an issue I'm having with cloud-config in an ec2 instance? I'm trying to pass in an additional apt source and specifying a filename for it, but the file is never created. I can't figure out why.
[21:56] <autojack> and I think this used to work.
[21:57] <guntbert> autojack: I guess #ubuntu-server will be better suited
[21:57] <pangur> When I had my windows installed, dr_willis, I used to be offered to activate nvidia driver/s.
[21:57] <autojack> hmm, I didn't know that existed. OK.
[21:58] <dr_willis> pangur:  the nvidia-current package in the repos installs the nvidia drivers here for me... i dont know what  links you are refering to.. or how windows would be affecting your linux drivers at all.
[21:59] <lukasz_> hi all, does anyone know if there is a working package for the ubuntu one indicator for 12.10?
[22:02] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/210400/how-to-install-ubuntu-one-indicator-in-12-10
[22:02] <bennis> hey, i'm trying to make a bootable usb on windows using the latest unetbootin... I've formatted my drive to fat32, the windows standard. It's not booting... What is windows doing wrong?
[22:03] <dr_willis> !info indicator-sync
[22:03] <dr_willis> bennis:  the pendrivelinux web site has alterantives to unetbootin that may work for you
[22:03] <guntbert> bennis: firts question: did you set up booting from USB? (in BIOS)?
[22:04] <hhhzzzarn> bennis, have you activated the usb boot option for your computer?
[22:04] <bennis> gunbert, indeed i have
[22:04] <hhhzzzarn> bennis, is the booting option above the hard disk option?
[22:04] <bennis> dr_willis, the purpose of this is to display to a nonprofit how linux can be made to look like windows
[22:04] <hhhzzzarn> bennis, you have to move your usb booting option ahead of hard disk in the boot order.
[22:04] <bennis> hhhzzzarn yes, the bios is giving some "remove all disks then push any button to reboot" error
[22:05] <bennis> hhhzzzarn guntbert asked that same thing, i'm pretty sure
[22:05] <guntbert> bennis: 2nd question: does it boot from the stick at all (with errors) ?
[22:05] <hhhzzzarn> bennis, I am not familiar with that error.
[22:05] <dr_willis> sounds like the bios is not seeing the OS on the stick.
[22:05] <bennis> guntbert No, i'm getting a "remove all disks then push any button to reboot" error
[22:06] <dr_willis> test the stick in other pc's try alternative tools to unetbootin.
[22:06] <bennis> dr_willis yeah, but is it a format issue or do i just need a *nix box to do it properly? i assume the partition doesn't have the boot flag for some reason
[22:06] <guntbert> bennis: that message comes at the end of a live CD/USB session
[22:06] <bennis> dr_willis i don't have admin priviledges on this machine
[22:06] <dr_willis> bennis:   you can image the iso file straight to the flash if you wanted to.
[22:06] <bennis> guntbert, couldn't tell you why i'm getting it then
[22:07] <hhhzzzarn> bennis: at this point, you can try "universalusbinstaller" from pendrivelinux.org
[22:08] <hhhzzzarn> what is the shortcut to exist fullscreen window mode again (from memory)? I am stuck :)
[22:08] <bennis> hhhzzzarn: i have no admin rights
[22:08] <bennis> i'll look into it later
[22:09] <guntbert> hhhzzzarn: in what application?
[22:09] <hhhzzzarn> bennis, I don't think you need admin rights since usbinstaller does not install itself
[22:09] <dr_willis> but he may to get teh bootloader written to the flash.
[22:09] <Steelcased_Sambo> Hello.
[22:09] <hhhzzzarn> guntbert, in xubuntu in general.
[22:10] <guntbert> hhhzzzarn: make xubuntu non-fullscreen? sounds weird :)
[22:11] <Steelcased_Sambo> I downloaded Ubuntu, installed it to my netbook, decided I wanted to go back to Windows and used Darik's Boot and Nuke to get rid of Ubuntu... And now Syslinux Insane Primary (MBR) partition won't allow me to boot from the SD card I have Windows on. I used GParted to get rid of all the partitions on my HDD but it did not work. Can anyone help?
[22:11] <dr_willis> http://www.keyxl.com/aaac887/409/Xfce-Window-Manager-keyboard-shortcuts.htm
[22:12] <hhhzzzarn> guntbert, I click on the window options and choose fullscreen, now I don't see the option icon or the minimize, resize, close buttons.
[22:12] <dr_willis> you use a windows disk/usb/tools to reinstall the windows bootloader to the mbr Steelcased_Sambo
[22:12] <jakup> Hi. My speakers don't mute when I insert headphones, and alsamixer doesn't help... Heelp :)
[22:13] <guntbert> hhhzzzarn: I see - does the list from dr_willis help? ^^^
[22:13] <Steelcased_Sambo> dr_willis - How do I do that? I have a laptop, a netbook and an SD card. I am semi-competent at best.
[22:13] <lazarus_> quick question is there a way to gut ubuntu to connecto to a server that is using web deploy
[22:13] <hhhzzzarn> guntbert, i am looking
[22:14] <jakup> It's possible for me to mute speaker in alsamixer, but I'm installing ubuntu on a friends computer, who is a complete computer retard, so I can't tell her to go into alsamixer everytime she needs to use headphones
[22:14] <dr_willis> Steelcased_Sambo:  people in #windows may be able to suggest some tools.
[22:14] <Steelcased_Sambo> Thank you.
[22:14] <hhhzzzarn> duntbert, yes it did. Thanks dr_willis, could search myself but I could not access my xubuntu menu
[22:15] <T3> does anybody knows the right channel for bonding/vlan tagging doubts?
[22:15] <dr_willis> hhhzzzarn:  i just googled for 'xfce keyboard shortcuts' ;P
[22:15] <guntbert> T3: try ##networking
[22:16] <T3> thanks guntbert
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> Steelcased_Sambo, When you use boot and nuke you need to make a new partition table.
[22:17] <Steelcased_Sambo> How do I do that?
[22:17] <Steelcased_Sambo> So I should reinstall DBAN to the sd card and d-ban again?
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> Steelcased_Sambo, You can do that with gparted, but you are just installing windows right?
[22:17] <hhhzzzarn> steelcased_sambo, you can make a new partition table from ubuntu live cd using gparted.
[22:18] <Steelcased_Sambo> O.k... So put Unbut on SD card?
[22:18] <hhhzzzarn> but you don't have to install ubuntu, just the partition table and empy space.
[22:18] <Steelcased_Sambo> Can I remove all partitions and achieve the same effect?
[22:18] <pangur> I have found my Software Sources dialog, dr_willis
[22:19] <Steelcased_Sambo> O.k.
[22:19] <Steelcased_Sambo> Putting Ubuntu on the SD card.
[22:19] <rafaelement> hey people.sometimes when i click on something movable(opera speeddial, middleclick in evolution, others) and move it i hear a slight scratching noise.this is disturbing...has anyone heard of it/ can anyone help me with that?
[22:19] <Steelcased_Sambo> Will report back when I'm done.
[22:19] <dr_willis> Steelcased_Sambo:  you need to reinstall the windows mbr to the mbr of the hard disk if you want it to boot windows
[22:19] <Steelcased_Sambo> #windows is dead.
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> Steelcased_Sambo, Cool, I would look up the use of the word sambo it is quote offensive. as well.
[22:20] <lazarus_> quick question is there a way to get ubuntu to connect to to a server that is using web deploy because in windows you have to use webmatrix but i not longer want to use windows
[22:20] <Steelcased_Sambo> wilee-nilee - In this reference, "Sambo" refers to the Russian martial art.
[22:20] <Steelcased_Sambo> Also, "steel-cased" --- Russia's preference for steelcased ammunition over traditional brass case.
[22:21] <Steelcased_Sambo> I.E. - Tougher sambo.
[22:21] <Steelcased_Sambo> Tougher martial prowess.
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> Steelcased_Sambo, I hope so but there are other uses, that are related that are racist.
[22:21] <Steelcased_Judo> There.
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> hehe cool
[22:21] <ekim1> hi all.
[22:22] <Steelcased_Judo> dr_willis - How do I do that from Linux?
[22:22] <AndChat24576> .
[22:22] <dr_willis> Steelcased_Judo:  no idea. i use windows to handle/repair windows.. the boot-repair tool might be able to do it.
[22:23] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> Steelcased_Judo, YOU still have the windows install and just can't boot to it?
[22:24] <pangur> Now that I have my nvidia driver installed, should I notice any difference from what I had with my opensource driver?
[22:24] <dr_willis> pangur:  faster eyecandy. and nvidia-setting tool lets you tweak things..
[22:24] <Steelcased_Judo> wilee-nilee - I don't have Windows installed.
[22:24] <pangur> ok thanks dr_w
[22:25] <Steelcased_Judo> dr_willis - I will try the boot repair tool. Thank you.
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> Steelcased_Judo, Cool, I was just going to suggest a open source bootloader if you did. ;)
[22:25] <almatrix> i have a problem with ubuntu
[22:26] <dr_willis> if you dont have windows installed.. and you deleted linux/ubuntu... then what OS are you booting? ;P
[22:26] <almatrix> i cant run the vb on  linux
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, I suspect he is getting a grub> and does not know of the out of the bios boot menu, besides maybe needing a partition table.
[22:27] <dr_willis> almatrix:  'the vb' meaning what?
[22:27] <almatrix> visual baisc dot net
[22:28] <Steelcased_Judo> dr_willis - No OS. Gonna use Live Ubuntu.
[22:28] <almatrix> dr_willis it mean visual basic dotnet
[22:28] <dr_willis> Steelcased_Judo:  so what exactly are you expectng these boot-repair tools to do?
[22:29] <Steelcased_Judo> dr_willis - From Ubuntu Live, I was hoping it would allow me to reinstall Windows.
[22:29] <Steelcased_Judo> dr_willis - It would repair or recreate the Windows MBR?
[22:29] <pangur> Should I use CairoDock w/wo OpenGl  ?
[22:29] <dr_willis> Steelcased_Judo:  you Might be able to make a sd card or usb you can boot/install from if you have a windows disk/iso..  You just said you had NO os.. so if the mbr is fixed theres no os to boot...
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> pangur, I use it with in the gnome skell
[22:30] <Steelcased_Judo> dr_willis - I DO have a Windows disk.
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> shell*
[22:30] <lloowen1> Hello all. I'm trying to run vpnc on a VPS running 10.04LTS I'm getting the following error. pastebin.com/xELJenS6 . I've had problems with getting the 'tun' to work and I've had this enabled by the VPS administrator. I'd be grateful for any help, thanks.
[22:30] <Steelcased_Judo> dr_willis - Or a Windows USB.
[22:30] <guntbert> almatrix: that is so - I don't think monodevelop will suport VB.net
[22:30] <pangur> Does GL = Gnome Shell?
[22:30] <blackshirt> anyone help me , /var/lib/dpkg directory was missing .. and can't install anything
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> pangur, The gnome shell is the actual gnome 3 desktop.
[22:31] <almatrix> aha so linux don't support it? guntbert
[22:31] <Jacob_P> Heyy guys
[22:32] <almatrix> hey jacob_p
[22:32] <pangur> I have 12.10 - so that is most likely to be gnome3, wilee-nilee ?
[22:32] <dr_willis> gnome2 died a few releases back. ;P
[22:32] <pangur> oh
[22:32] <blackshirt> anyone help me , /var/lib/dpkg directory was missing .. and can't install anything
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> pangur, If you down loaded ubuntu you have unity it is on top of gnome 3 as a plugin in compiz.
[22:33] <almatrix> hey anyone here can tel me?
[22:33] <guntbert> almatrix: please keep in mind that all .net languages are primarily a microsoft product, mono gives you a CLR, and FCL, but I don't know if there is a compiler for vb
[22:33] <pangur> It offers me two different cairos - one w opengl the other without.
[22:33] <blackshirt> wilee-nilee:  help me , /var/lib/dpkg directory was missing .. and can't install anything
[22:33] <Jacob_P> I'm brand new to ubuntu, just installed it yesterday, and I've yet to be able to boot it, I keep getting a black screen at what I think is the login screen
[22:33] <gordonjcp> almatrix: you can't really use Visual Basic in Linux
[22:34] <gordonjcp> almatrix: you might get lucky with running it in Wine
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> blackshirt, What happens if you run a sudo apt-get update in the terminal first.
[22:34] <gordonjcp> almatrix: frankly that strikes me as wtf-ery of the highest order though
[22:34] <almatrix> i have tried wine but it's not works
[22:34] <lloowen1> Hello all. I'm trying to run vpnc on a VPS running 10.04LTS I'm getting the following error. pastebin.com/xELJenS6 . I've had problems with getting the 'tun' to work and I've had this enabled by the VPS administrator. I'd be grateful for any help, thanks.
[22:35] <almatrix> it's failed to run
[22:35] <gordonjcp> almatrix: maybe you should try a language that is supported natively across platforms, like Python
[22:36] <almatrix> but i am studying vb.net
[22:36] <almatrix> ok
[22:36] <lloowen> Hello all. I'm trying to run vpnc on a VPS running 10.04LTS I'm getting the following error. pastebin.com/xELJenS6 . I've had problems with getting the 'tun' to work and I've had this enabled by the VPS administrator. I'd be grateful for any help, thanks.
[22:37] <Linkandzelda> omg just booted up Ubuntu finally on my Macbook Air, and it's super!
[22:38] <pangur> Is that dual-booting, Linkandzelda ?
[22:38] <Jacob_P> Anyone here know how to fix the black screen issue?
[22:38] <Linkandzelda> i only got as far as getting a live USB to boot
[22:38] <pangur> ok thanks
[22:38] <Linkandzelda> it took me this long and ended up having to use the Plop bootloader cd
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> Jacob_P, When is this happening?
[22:39] <Jacob_P> When I try booting
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> Jacob_P, From a live cd/usb or a install?
[22:39] <Jacob_P> I've tried adding the nomodeset and acpi_osi= parameters in grub,
[22:39] <Jacob_P> And this is using wubi
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> Jacob_P, YOU have already tried what I would suggest which is the nomodeset to get in to load graphic drivers.
[22:41] <Jacob_P> Those parameters get me a bit farther, I see the ubuntu splash screen, but when I get to what I assume is the login screen, it goes black
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> Jacob_P, Grub is different in a wubi so I'm not sure that works.
[22:41] <Jacob_P> Should I uninstall wubi then and attempt the usb option?
[22:42] <hhhzzzarn> jacob_p: what computer are you installing on?
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> Jacob_P, Wubi is basically for trying out ubuntu in lieu of a partitoned install, you might want to check your hardware in general with ubuntu.
[22:43] <Jacob_P> Its an HP pavilion g6 with an intel HD graphics driver
[22:43] <hhhzzzarn> Jacob_P: with some graphic drivers, you can get gui in 12.10 version. There was a bug filed. There was a temporary solution. Search launchpad.
[22:44] <jurn> fault
[22:44] <Jacob_P> Will research that now, thank you
[22:44] <hhhzzzarn> Jacob_P: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1069031
[22:45] <hhhzzzarn> lol, how did ubottu know that :)
[22:45] <hhhzzzarn> becauese I typed it :)
[22:45] <hhhzzzarn> because
[22:46] <Jacob_P> Oh right on, links are always awesome ahah
[22:49] <Jacob_P> Not quite sure how I apply this patch?
[22:50] <invisime> I'm on a laptop running Ubuntu 12.04 (thor) and I have a headless server that runs Ubuntu 10.04 (odin). I can ssh to odin if I use its ip address (obtainable from my router's web interface), but if I try to ping odin from thor, I end up pinging myself. do I need to clear some kind of dns something or other?
[22:52] <Diamondcite> invisime: Is Odin and Thor connected to the same router?
[22:52] <invisime> Diamondcite: yes. odin is connected via ethernet cable and thor is on the lan. but they're on the same subnet. (192.168.2.*)
[22:53] <ec8or_> do i need to restart crontab after making changes?
[22:54] <ec8or_> everywhere it says no but my changes aren't getting picked up
[22:54] <Diamondcite> ec8or_: Any changes made to crontab should be instant, no restart
[22:54] <Diamondcite> ec8or_: How did you change your crontab?
[22:54] <ec8or_> crontab -e
[22:54] <ec8or_> if i run it again my changes are there still
[22:54] <Diamondcite> ec8or_: And you are sure you have the syntax right? (The command is correct, I wonder if cron is running)
[22:55] <ec8or_> and older entries still run so can't be anything too wrong in there
[22:55] <Diamondcite> ec8or_: What kind of cron are you trying for?
[22:55] <ec8or_> http://pastebin.com/cjE6XyhM
[22:55] <ec8or_> there it is
[22:55] <ec8or_> just running a php script
[22:56] <ec8or_> the /cron one runs, but the /song/cron is never retrieved
[22:56] <ec8or_> checking the emails that are send it doesn't look like cron is even trying
[22:57] <ec8or_> added the mail contents to the pastebin
[22:58] <ec8or_> got a new line after the second line as well :)
[22:58] <Diamondcite> ec8or_: I might be imagining, but you didn't tell it WHEN to run?
[22:59] <guntbert> !enter | ec8or_
[22:59] <Steelcased_Judo> dr_willis - I used Gparted on Unbuntu lIVE to destroy all partitions... Do I create a new partition now on gparted?
[22:59] <hhhzzzarn> Jacob_P: for now you have to use 12.04 :(
[22:59] <hhhzzzarn> steelcased_judo: yes, new partition table :)
[22:59] <Steelcased_Judo> What partition file system does Windows run on?
[22:59] <Steelcased_Judo> Fats 32?
[23:00] <hhhzzzarn> ntfs
[23:00] <tensorpudding> modern windows run on ntfs
[23:00] <dr_willis> Steelcased_Judo: wundows  installer can partition
[23:00] <ec8or_> Diamondcite: what do you mean? doesn't * * * * * mean every minute?
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> Steelcased_Judo, NTFS and put a boot flag on it in gparted
[23:00] <tensorpudding> don't create windows partitions using gparted, is my recommendation
[23:00] <Steelcased_Judo> dr_willis - When I try to use Windows installer the SysLinux MBR doesn't recognize it.
[23:00] <hhhzzzarn> dr_willis, don't create windows using gparted.
[23:00] <hhhzzzarn> wrong person
[23:01] <Diamondcite> ec8or_: Hrm, sorry maybe I mis-read, but in that case, can't you use a cron.minutely?
[23:01] <ec8or_> Diamondcite: true, not sure why that would work better but might as well try
[23:02] <dr_willis> Steelcased_Judo: you need to have the windows setup disk reinstall the windows bootloader to the mbr
[23:02] <Diamondcite> ec8or_: I am checking your cron line at the moment.. please stand by.
[23:02] <Steelcased_Judo> dr
[23:03] <skypce> hello do you know if jackd has low latency with soundblaster usb sb1090?
[23:03] <Steelcased_Judo> dr_willis - The Syslinux MBR won't let me! How do I do that?
[23:03] <hhhzzzarn> dr_willis, can't you download only the windows repair part on a cd or usb?
[23:03] <Diamondcite> ec8or_: have you stated WHERE the wget file should go?
[23:04] <lnxslck> i got some software center repositories disabled when i upgraded to 12.10, how to enable them back?
[23:04] <lnxslck> they do not appear on sources.list only on app software center
[23:04] <ec8or_> Diamondcite: yes it is a controller, works fine when loading in a browser. And either way you would think there would be a wget entry in the crontab mail even if it didn't load
[23:04] <dr_willis> syslinux  has nothing to do with it... and the lifehacker site had links to legal windows recovery isos at i
[23:04] <dr_willis> one time
[23:05] <ohdarn> anyone here use xubuntu? trying to confirm a memtest issue with the 12.10 amd64 iso... for me it always fails at ~43%.. remade the startup disk multiple times
[23:05] <Diamondcite> ec8or_: Maybe you can have your wget log the output to see if it's running but maybe hitting an error for running too quickly?
[23:06] <Diamondcite> ohdarn: memtest86+ type memtest?
[23:06] <hhhzzzarn> ohdarn, I do
[23:06] <hhhzzzarn> ohdarn, I do not have amd64, I have i386 xubuntu 12.10
[23:06] <ohdarn> Diamondcite: yes that memtest
[23:07] <Diamondcite> ohdarn: Sure your ram itself is good?
[23:07] <Steelcased_Judo> Now says error: no such partition
[23:07] <ohdarn> hhhzzzarn: have u run the memtest from usb/cd before? I swear its borked
[23:07] <Steelcased_Judo> grub rescue>
[23:07] <ec8or_> Diamondcite: yeah will dig a bit deeper, thanks anyway for answering my initial question
[23:07] <hhhzzzarn> ohdar, I have not
[23:07] <Diamondcite> ohdarn: I have also had cases in the past where keyboard presses caused error at a VERY specific point
[23:07] <ohdarn> yes, I just switched the image to another computer, fails at 43% as well.. tried 12.04 and passes on both
[23:07] <hhhzzzarn> ohdar, you can search online to see if others have the same problem
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> Steelcased_Judo, What windows release is this?
[23:08] <g0tcha> heya guys, i have an ubuntu server running in my home network, is there a way to make it so it cannot access the rest of my network?
[23:08] <Steelcased_Judo> Windows 7 Starter
[23:08] <Steelcased_Judo> Trying one last time
[23:08] <Steelcased_Judo> .If it doesn't work, I give up.
[23:08] <gordonjcp> g0tcha: what would be the point of that?
[23:09] <ohdarn> just did, i think i found it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2070504 , which links to http://forum.canardpc.com/threads/72840-Ubuntu-12.10-build-Memtest-v4.20-fails-on-Sandy-Bridge
[23:09] <SirScott> trying to install ubuntu server w/raid + lvm.  It's failing to install the bootloader on /dev/sda.  Any suggestions?  I do not have a dedicated /boot drive, as grub2 should support booting from raid+lvm...
[23:09] <g0tcha> gordonjcp, im trying to make it accessable from outside my house, so i want it to be isolated from the rest of my network
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> Steelcased_Judo, there is a out of the bios boot from menu you need to get there, mine is tapping f12 at powering on till you see it, you key access may be different.
[23:10] <guntbert> SirScott: #ubuntu-server seems better suited for good answers :)
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> your*
[23:10] <SirScott> guntbert: thanks :)
[23:10] <Steelcased_Judo> wilee-nilee - Thanky ou.
[23:11] <gordonjcp> g0tcha: ah, you want a DMZ
[23:11] <gordonjcp> g0tcha: that's a pretty complicated bunch of configuration
[23:11] <gordonjcp> g0tcha: look at using a router running OpenWRT or similar
[23:12] <Steelcased_Judo> Thank you, gentlemen.
[23:12] <Steelcased_Judo> Sorry to have bothered youl
[23:12] <Steelcased_Judo> Wish me luck.
[23:12] <Aleksander> Hello. Is SuperMeatBoy 64-bit deb package broken? It's over 100 MBs larger than it should be.
[23:12] <hhhzzzarn> good luck :)
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> it's cool Steelcased_Judo
[23:15] <Cong> at offset 0xc0 i want to grab 156 bytes in this file. how do I do that in the terminal?
[23:16] <dr_willis> sounds like a job for 'dd' conq
[23:16] <dr_willis> cong ;-)
[23:16] <Cong> I'll give it a try.
[23:16] <Cong> I was hoping for something safer.
[23:19] <alexfpms> How to list all users belonging to the specific group ?
[23:20] <guntbert> alexfpms: getent group <groupname>
[23:20] <svspl> alexfpms: groups <groupname>
[23:22] <alexfpms> svspl, groups gives the users groups
[23:22] <svspl> yes I can see my mistake now, sorry
[23:23] <alexfpms> guntbert, thanks man
[23:24] <alexfpms> guntbert, when i add a user to the group how can i make the changes take place without reboot ?
[23:29] <svspl> usermod -G <group> <user> instead of `vigr`
[23:29] <guntbert> alexfpms: no need to reboot, the user must only log out, and log in again
[23:29] <jrib> svspl: please warn people that that removes users from all their groups
[23:29] <jrib> svspl: (or better: suggest « adduser USER GROUP »)
[23:29] <alexfpms> guntbert, ok it simpler. But i'm curious if there some way to reload the changes without log out, log in ?
[23:30] <svspl> then usermod -G -a
[23:31] <alexfpms> svspl, thanks but i know how to add the user to the group
[23:31] <guntbert> alexfpms: no, group membership is only applied at login, not during a session, that applies to all linux/UNIX OS
[23:32] <alexfpms> guntbert, thanks, it is more clear now
[23:32] <jrib> newgrp :)
[23:32] <jrib> (though it doesn't do what you want probably)
[23:32] <guntbert> alexfpms: You're welcome
[23:38] <alexfpms> jrib, good try but it doesn't reload group members
[23:39] <satwood> how can one mount a truecrypt drive during boot time as early as possible
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> satwood, You trying to mount it open with the password?
[23:43] <slackme> Hey all. I was wondering if there is an easy way to open a .iso that is already packaged into a bootable vmware image.
[23:43] <slackme> So that I can get the contents.
[23:43] <satwood> wilee-nilee: yes, because i cant supply it at boot time, i want the truecrypt drive to come up by itself without manual intervention
[23:43] <ekaj> Is the US mirror down or something?
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> satwood, Kinda defeats the use of it anyone could get in don't you think?
[23:44] <zykotick9> !iso > slackme
[23:44] <devart> hi
[23:44] <satwood> wilee-nilee: yes, i don't konw how else to do automatically (without it asking) upon boot up.
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> satwood, With a quick look at the web I think you need a script to be run, I can't really help beyond that. I use truecrypt, but I just encrypted a file rather then a HD.
[23:46] <satwood> wilee-nilee: ok, i do have a init.d script, i am trying to see how to start this before any other scripts
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> satwood, Cool I can't really help sorry.
[23:47] <devart> has anyone encountered the problem during fresh ubuntu 12.04 install the system freezes every time?
[23:48] <devart> checksum is good, and no errors found on the diskc
[23:48] <dr_willis> during the install it freezes? or after a fresh install..
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> devart, You just getting a black screen maybe not an actual freeze.
[23:48] <dr_willis> freezes where exctly..
[23:48] <devart> neh.
[23:49] <devart> during the installation... after format, gets to approx 40% of the progress bar and freeze... Ive thought it takes a long time to get passed that portion of the install so i waiting a good hour and nothing happening with no keyboard activity (num- light not active)
[23:50] <devart> i can type, where i am for timezone
[23:50] <devart> and setup user
[23:50] <devart> but then freeze
[23:50] <dr_willis> so just the installer hangs? not the whole OS?
[23:52] <devart> dr_willis: i can run the live cd- but install crashes, crashes by just freezing... because of this encounter im using the 11.10 kubuntu
[23:52] <dr_willis> i think your definition of freezing is confuseing people...
[23:52] <devart> dr_willis: IM NOT 100% sure.. but I think that a problem may have occured on my hard drive somehow after having Fedora 17 installed
[23:53] <dr_willis> the Installer just stops? or does the entire machine stop as well? can you still type.move mouse, and run apps after the imnstaller hangs>
[23:53] <basketballstar> can i sync a flash drive with ubuntu 1
[23:53] <dr_willis> if you repartione/formated the Fedora install its gone and cant really be affecting stuff.,
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> basketballstar, I think the sync has to be under the users files
[23:54] <ControllerSYR> hello
[23:54] <|Glitch|> 123
[23:54] <[twisti]> hi, i tried to install jenkins, but it has almost 150 dependencies, its just a war file, whats wrong here ?
[23:54] <Lunar_Lander__> hello, a marginally related question
[23:54] <ControllerSYR> 456
[23:55] <Lunar_Lander__> where is a good place to ask about gnuplot issues?
[23:55] <ControllerSYR> i need to open tor-browser_ar
[23:55] <devart> dr_willis: fedora released an update which would allow fedora to load partially, but before the splash(loading)screen would complete it would drop to terminal with errors, but no command line and frozen... no keyboard activity....... anyhow after this wouldnt correct i decided to format and install ubuntu 12 again and work around the unity-desktop  --- as per the ubuntu 12.04 install, I am able to load the cd, enter live cd if i
[23:55] <devart> choose,  and start the installer...... the installed suggests the partitioning and formats then prepares for install.. during prepapre for install then prompts for location to get time zone, then username, and password etc...
[23:55] <dr_willis> !info jenkins
[23:56] <ControllerSYR> it is open with gedit
[23:56] <dr_willis> devart:  sounds like the details of the issues are pointing to some common hardware issue.
[23:56] <ControllerSYR> i need open start-tor-browser
[23:56] <devart> dr_willis: after all input is entered the installing progress bar will FREEZE, no mouse movement, no keyboard activity, light on the num-pad doesnt not function, ctrl+alt+delete no funct., and if i reboot my computer hangs on ram count until i shut down for a short duration
[23:56] <[twisti]> dr_willis: where you trying to tell me something with that ? because if so, i didnt get it
[23:56] <ControllerSYR> it is open with gedit
[23:57] <ControllerSYR> ineed to open it with shell
[23:57] <ControllerSYR> like .exe in windows
[23:57] <dr_willis> ControllerSYR:  if you mean you need to make the script executable . then you set the permissions/executable bit on it...
[23:57] <basketballstar> what is the user files
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> basketballstar, The files on the OS
[23:58] <basketballstar> wilee-nilee,
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> in that users account basketballstar
[23:58] <dr_willis> [twisti]:  somthing seems odd with your 'its just a war file' and the package descrition of it being some sort of 'server'  - but ive never used it..
[23:59] <ControllerSYR> i cant edit permissions
[23:59] <basketballstar> how do i move a flash drive there then
[23:59] <dr_willis> if the file is owned by your user you could...
[23:59] <[twisti]> its a server. comes as a war file. runs with just java installed, as far as i know. i suppose im going to have to install it manually if the package is this broken, im not installing 142 dependencies for something that runs completely standalone
[23:59] <devart> well thanks for the help dr_willis
[23:59] <devart> <3