[00:02] <kaveva75> hello
[00:03] <kaveva75> I have a problem installing evolution in my xubuntu 12.04
[00:04] <kaveva75> this is the error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  evolution: Depends: evolution-common (= 3.2.3-0ubuntu6) but 3.2.3-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[00:05] <kaveva75> how can I install this dependencies ?
[00:06] <kaveva75> can you help me ?
[00:07] <kaveva75> are there another ways to connect my xubuntu with email exchange server ?
[00:08] <GridCube> what?
[00:08] <GridCube> !info evolution-common
[00:08] <GridCube> it has to be = ?
[00:09] <GridCube> !info evolution-common prescise
[00:09] <GridCube> !info evolution-common precise
[00:10] <GridCube> in 12.04 you should have that dependency satisfied kaveva75
[00:10] <kaveva75> from ubuntu software center ?
[00:10] <GridCube> kaveva75, yes
[00:10] <kaveva75> i'm trying
[00:10] <kaveva75> thanks
[00:11] <GridCube> kaveva75, you could simply do sudo apt-get install evolution-common
[00:11] <kaveva75> I'm trying , thanks GridCube
[00:11] <GridCube> :D good luck kancerman
[00:12] <GridCube> * kaveva75
[00:12] <kaveva75> dear GridCube, I have this error : xatt@xatt-Precision-M4300:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install evolution-common Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done evolution-common is already the newest version. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   evolution-webcal linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic gnome-desktop3-data libpst4   linux-headers-3.2.0
[00:13] <GridCube> thats not an error
[00:13] <GridCube> read what its saying
[00:13] <GridCube> :)
[00:15] <kaveva75> I'm trying with apt-get install evolution
[00:15] <kaveva75> and I receiving this error: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following pack
[00:16] <kaveva75> The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  evolution : Depends: gnome-icon-theme-full but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[00:16] <kaveva75> How can i get this dependency :  gnome-icon-theme-full
[00:16] <kaveva75> ?
[00:17] <GridCube> !info gnome-icon-theme-full
[00:17] <GridCube> !info gnome-icon-theme-full precise
[00:17] <GridCube> well... jus try to sudo apt-get it?
[00:17] <kaveva75> i'm trying
[00:17] <GridCube> sudo apt-get install gnome-icon-theme-full --no-install-recommends
[00:18] <GridCube> the --no-install-recommends will prevent that package from installing all unity with it
[00:18] <kaveva75> receive this: xatt@xatt-Precision-M4300:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install gnome-icon-theme-full Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The followin
[00:19] <kaveva75> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gnome-icon-theme-full : Depends: gnome-icon-theme (= 3.4.0-0ubuntu1) but 3.4.0-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[00:19] <GridCube> do this: sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get update
[00:20] <GridCube> !info gnome-icon-theme precise
[00:20] <GridCube> you should be able to install it, its in the repos
[00:21] <kaveva75> xatt@xatt-Precision-M4300:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install gnome-icon-theme Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done gnome-icon-theme is already the newest version. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   evolution-webcal linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic gnome-desktop3-data libpst4   linux-headers-3.2.0-29 libgtkhtml-4.0-0 libgnome-deskt
[00:22] <kaveva75> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:22] <GridCube> kaveva75, as said:
[00:22] <GridCube> do this: sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get update
[00:23] <kaveva75> it's working
[00:23] <kaveva75> ok, finish
[00:23] <kaveva75> so, do i try with install evolution-common ?
[00:24] <GridCube> it should pull the other things yes
[00:25] <kaveva75> don't work
[00:25] <GridCube> :/
[00:25] <kaveva75>  sudo apt-get install gnome-icon-theme Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done gnome-icon-theme is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:25] <GridCube> that did work
[00:26] <GridCube> Done gnome-icon-theme is already the newest version.
[00:26] <kaveva75> ok
[00:26] <kaveva75> sudo apt-get install evolution  ??
[00:26] <GridCube> try that yes :)
[00:26] <kaveva75> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies
[00:27] <kaveva75> Depends: gnome-icon-theme-full but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[00:27] <GridCube> try that one then
[00:27] <GridCube> oh... you still have broken packages
[00:27] <kaveva75> ???
[00:28] <GridCube> that last sentence, autoremove should have taken care of that
[00:29] <GridCube> but try sudo apt-get install  gnome-icon-theme-ful
[00:29] <kaveva75> this error: sudo apt-get install  gnome-icon-theme-ful
[00:29] <kaveva75> ops, this error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gnome-icon-theme-full : Depends: gnome-icon-theme (= 3.4.0-0ubuntu1) but 3.4.0-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[00:30] <kaveva75> what's 3.4.0-0ubuntu1.1 ?
[00:30] <GridCube> but... thats.. it said
[00:30] <GridCube> kaveva75, the version of the program
[00:31] <GridCube> oh its 1.1 and it wants it to be just 1
[00:31] <GridCube> sorry kaveva75 but i have not the slightliest idea of what to do next :/
[00:32] <kaveva75> ok, thank you GridCube
[00:32] <GridCube> kaveva75, let me do some research please
[00:34] <kaveva75> thank, but don't worry , i'm going to sleep , my mail is kaleva75@gmail.com
[00:34] <kaveva75> by GridCube
[00:34] <kaveva75> bye
[00:35] <GridCube> good luck
[01:35] <hfb> Looking for some help with my wireless lan card
[01:52] <hfb> when downloading adobe flash player for xubuntu which version do i want?
[01:53] <Unit193> hfb: Just install xubuntu-restricted-extras.
[01:53] <hfb> YUM, tar.gx, .rpm, or RPM?
[01:53] <hfb> and how would i go about finding that? (im brand new to linux)
[01:54] <Unit193> Nither, you don't download stuff off sites, you use the repos.
[01:55] <Unit193> !software
[02:20] <juanantonio> Buenas
[02:21] <juanantonio> tengo 12.04 y quiero saber si la 12.10 ya es suficientemnte estable
[02:50] <kyle__> ...It probably wasn't the best idea to start out with Xubuntu as my first distro, was it?
[02:51] <kyle__> Can anyone help me get started with it?
[02:57] <kyle__> How does one go about learning the way around Xubuntu
[03:03] <stochastic> kyle__, what sort of problems are you facing?  have you looked at any online videos of xfce or Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[03:03] <kyle__> Not really.
[03:03] <kyle__> I'm completely lost.
[03:03] <kyle__> I probably should have started with vanilla Ubuntu.
[03:05] <kyle__> What videos would you suggest, just to start?
[03:08] <Unit193> kyle__: Take a look at the docs under /usr/share/xubuntu-docs/desktop-guide/index.html
[03:08] <Unit193> (As in, paste that url into the browser)
[03:09] <kyle__> Thanks, man.
[03:19] <xangua> good halloween, or as they used to say...hollow evening :) does the xfce panel supports the indicator menu stuff¿
[03:27] <xubuntu475> dajiahao
[03:28] <xubuntu475> da jia hao
[03:29] <xubuntu475> 大家好
[03:30] <xubuntu475> xubuntu，这个有没有离线安装包呀
[03:30] <xubuntu475> 在线下载的话，速度太慢了
[03:31] <xubuntu475> 怎么没有人说话
[03:31] <xubuntu475> 这个空间好安静呀
[03:32] <bazhang> !cn
[03:34] <xubuntu475> 额，，这个不是中文的吗？
[03:34] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[03:34] <Azelphur> pretty chinese characters \o/
[03:35] <Azelphur> 额 this one looks weird though, it's just like a weird scribbley thing.
[03:35] <xubuntu475> 貌似，，也不是所有的人不懂中文的
[03:35] <Azelphur> apparently it means "Amount", amazing how they can cram an entire word into one character
[03:37] <Azelphur> 我不这样做，但谷歌翻译帮助
[03:37] <bazhang> English here Azelphur
[03:37] <Azelphur> aww :(
[03:38]  * Azelphur was testing out the google translate foo
[03:38] <bazhang> chit chat in #xubuntu-offtopic as well please Azelphur
[04:22] <hfb> Every time I try to download all the updates it prompts me to it says "Failed to download package files|
[04:22] <hfb> followed by "check your internet connnection"
[04:22] <holstein> hfb: have you checked your internet connection?
[04:22] <hfb> yes, works fine
[04:23] <hfb> using it to stream TV right now
[04:25] <hfb> any ideas?
[04:25] <holstein> hfb: i would close any update managers and/or package managers.. open the terminal.. run "sudo apt-get update" and see that no errors are reported... then run "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:26] <hfb> ive done that before, have time to walk me thru it?
[04:26] <hfb> im brand new to linux
[04:28] <holstein> sure
[04:29] <holstein> hfb: i would open the terminal and type..
[04:29] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[04:29] <hfb> did that
[04:29] <holstein> hit the "enter" key, and see that no errors are posted
[04:30] <holstein> hfb: if you have errors, you can share then with a pastebin
[04:30] <holstein> !paste
[04:30] <hfb> i dont see any errors just apt 0.8.6~exp12ubuntu10.2 for i386 compiled etc
[04:30] <holstein> hfb: then, in the same terminal, type...
[04:30] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:30] <holstein> share any errors
[04:31] <holstein> you should have a list of packages to upgrade.. i usually skim the list as least
[04:32] <hfb> tons of error messages
[04:32] <hfb> copy and paste them all?
[04:32] <holstein> hfb: in a pastebin
[04:32] <holstein> !paste | hfb
[04:33] <holstein> hfb: you can go to http://paste.ubuntu.com ,paste the text, and share the link after clicking the "paste" button
[04:33] <hfb> pasted
[04:35] <hfb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322587/
[04:36] <holstein> hfb: run sudo apt-get update again and paste that
[04:36] <hfb> ok
[04:36] <holstein> hfb: what operating system is this?
[04:37] <hfb> umm the latest xubuntu
[04:37] <holstein> hfb: xubuntu 12.10?
[04:38] <hfb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1322597/
[04:38] <hfb> i believe so
[04:39] <hfb> is there any way to check to be exact?
[04:39] <holstein> hfb: in a terminal, lsb_release -a
[04:40] <hfb> 12.04
[04:42] <hfb> 12.04.1 to be exact
[04:42] <holstein> thats the latest lts... 12.10 is the latest regular release
[04:42] <holstein> hfb: you have ppa's added?
[04:42] <hfb> lts?
[04:42] <hfb> i do not know what ppa's are ^^ sry
[04:43] <holstein> hfb: lts = long term support
[04:44] <holstein> hfb: have you copied and pasted anything like "sudo add-apt-repository foo" to get additional software??
[04:44] <holstein> hfb: its odd that you are able to run one command and not the other
[04:44] <holstein> hfb: i would try this
[04:44] <holstein> sudo apt-get -f install
[04:44] <holstein> hfb: ^^ run that and pastebin me any errors
[04:44] <holstein> if no errors, try sudo apt-get upgrade again
[04:45] <hfb> no sir, i have only had linux for a few days, only explored the OS a little bit, just learning
[04:45] <hfb> ok brb
[04:45] <hfb> what does the apt-get -f install do?
[04:45] <holstein> hfb: hopefully fix something if its broken or missing
[04:46] <hfb> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[04:46] <hfb> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:46] <hfb> hfb@T41Geek:~$ ^C
[04:46] <hfb> hfb@T41Geek:~$
[04:46] <holstein> hfb: you'll need to close anything else
[04:46] <holstein> hfb: update managers... package managers
[04:47] <holstein> hfb: assuming you used "sudo"
[04:47] <holstein> sudo apt-get -f install
[04:47] <hfb> ok
[04:48] <hfb> hfb@T41Geek:~$ apt-get -f install
[04:48] <hfb> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[04:48] <hfb> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:48] <hfb> hfb@T41Geek:~$ ^C
[04:48] <hfb> hfb@T41Geek:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
[04:48] <hfb> Reading package lists... Done
[04:48] <hfb> Building dependency tree
[04:48] <hfb> Reading state information... Done
[04:48] <hfb> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 158 not upgraded.
[04:48] <hfb> hfb@T41Geek:~$
[04:49] <holstein> ok, so now try..
[04:49] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[04:49] <holstein> then
[04:49] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:50] <hfb> seems to be working this time, ill paste my results when there done
[04:51] <holstein> hfb: when that finishes, you should be able to use the GUI updater again
[04:52] <hfb> thats the manager that prompts me to upgrade?
[04:52] <hfb> update**
[04:52] <holstein> hfb: its important to reload the cache.. and its important never to shutdown while upgrading
[04:52] <holstein> hfb: yup
[04:53] <hfb> reload the cache?
[04:53] <holstein> hfb: sudo apt-get update is doing that.. hitting a "reload" or "refresh" button in the GUI ones..
[04:54] <hfb> hmm this stuff is soo cool
[04:54] <hfb> is there a website that can give me a crash course on terminal commands so i dont always have to bug people?
[04:55] <holstein> hmm... i usually just google search what im tring to do
[04:55] <hfb> ok i see
[04:55] <holstein> hfb: i started doing more and more normal everyday tasks in the CLI.. just simple stuff..
[04:55] <hfb> why does it says my name before your type? how did you do that?
[04:56] <holstein> hfb: you mean < >
[04:56] <hfb> cli? that the terminal?
[04:56] <holstein> hfb: CLI = command line interface... the terminal is a way to get to that
[04:56] <hfb> o i c ok
[04:57] <holstein> i type "h" and i hit the tab key... its tab complete.. you can cycle through the h nicks
[04:57] <holstein> if you type hol and hit tab, youll probably get me
[04:58] <hfb> holstein, oh thats cool
[04:58] <holstein> hfb: you can do that in the command line too.. for /path/to/file ...or commands... in the terminal, you can type 'su' and hit tab twice, and you'll see all the su* options... type sud and hit tab and sudo will auto complete
[04:59] <holstein> fir - tab will auto complete firefox
[04:59] <hfb> auto complete?
[05:00] <holstein> yup.. tab completion.. like with the nicknames here
[05:00] <holstein> !cli
[05:01] <hfb> it didnt work for me i tried it
[05:01] <holstein> hfb: what? which? whats "it" ?
[05:02] <hfb> i typed <fir - tab> did do anything
[05:02] <holstein> hfb: hol tab gets my nick...
[05:02] <holstein> hfb: maybe you dont have firefox installed
[05:02] <hfb> i do its my defualt\
[05:02] <holstein> hfb: whatever command you start typing, you can auto complete
[05:03] <hfb> holstein,  ooo so if i type hol then tab and types ur name got it lol sry
[05:03] <holstein> interesting..
[05:04] <holstein> Guest57727: i think that nick is registered
[05:04] <holstein> 01:03 -!- Guest57727 [~hfb@ip68-229-56-139.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Killed (bradbury.freenode.net (Nickname regained by  services))]
[05:04] <Guest57727> NickServ- hfb_!~hfb@cpe-98-151-249-95.socal.res.rr.com has regained your nickname.
[05:04] <Guest57727> * You are now known as Guest57727
[05:04] <Guest57727> * You have been killed by bradbury.freenode.net (regained by services))
[05:04] <Guest57727> * Guest57727 has quit (Killed (bradbury.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))
[05:04] <Guest57727> * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
[05:04] <Guest57727> * Guest57727 sets mode +i Guest57727
[05:04] <Guest57727>  No channel joined. Try /join #<channel>
[05:04] <Guest57727> what does this mean? ive always had this nick
[05:04] <holstein> Guest57727: i would ask the bosses.. try #freenode ... thats what it looks like to me.. its being regained
[05:05] <holstein> maybe they wanted it for something...
[05:08] <Guest57727> its prompting me to restart
[05:08] <holstein> Guest57727: i would expect that
[05:08] <holstein> Guest57727: its not urgent, but i would soon
[05:08] <Guest57727> ok, no one is answering me on #freenode
[05:09] <holstein> Guest57727: i would wait 24 hours, and if you dont hear from anyone, repost
[05:09] <holstein> if you cant wait, you could send an email in
[05:09] <Guest57727> if i restart i lose all this chat though right?
[05:10] <holstein> depends on the client you are using... you can copy-paste or whatever
[05:11] <Guest57727> ok i c
[05:11] <Guest57727> ok be right back im going to restart and see if it will fix
[05:11] <Guest57727> holstein, thank you for your help u are awesome
[05:12] <holstein> Guest57727: anytime.. i might crash soon, but enjoy!
[05:13] <Guest57727> ty again
[06:53] <CWIDE> Hello. Could anyone please help me out with a problem I've been having. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078985
[06:55] <apm1> CWIDE, what gpu ?
[06:56] <CWIDE> Guess I should add that let me look up the card 1 second
[06:56] <apm1> CWIDE, if you won't respond , i can't help you :(
[06:56] <CWIDE> :/
[06:57] <apm1> CWIDE, lspci ?
[06:57] <apm1> ^type that in a terminal
[06:57] <CWIDE> thanks :D
[06:57] <apm1> without the question mark
[06:57] <CWIDE> haha
[06:57] <CWIDE> GeForce GT 430
[06:58] <apm1> go to the xubuntu (xfce) menu
[06:58] <apm1> menu>settings>additional drivers
[06:59] <apm1> or .... type "synaptic "in a terminal
[07:00] <apm1> now in the search field in synaptic type "nvidia current"
[07:00] <apm1> find/scroll to the package named "nvidia current" and left click it and select install
[07:01] <CWIDE> Ok
[07:01] <apm1> on the top menu in synaptic now click apply
[07:01] <apm1> that should do the trick
[07:01] <apm1> reboot once
[07:01] <apm1> and report how did it go
[07:01] <CWIDE> Thank you very much :D
[07:01] <CWIDE> I will
[07:06] <CWIDE> It worked great apm1 no more messed up text
[07:06] <CWIDE> Thank you very much :D
[07:06] <apm1> CWIDE, glad i could help , enjoy linux
[07:06] <CWIDE> :D
[07:07] <CWIDE> Well im going to sleep just wanted to fix that before I did. Thanks again. Good night.
[09:15] <xubuntu319> Hi :D
[09:16] <xubuntu319> no one here?
[09:16] <baizon> !hi | xubuntu319
[09:17] <xubuntu319> Well, I'm installing right now Xubuntu but I have some worries
[09:18] <xubuntu319> It takes too long to install
[09:22] <baizon> xubuntu319: home come?
[09:23] <xubuntu319> Well, it says "xubuntu ubiquity: Proccessing triggers for update-notifier-common" for  minutes now...
[09:23] <xubuntu319> *30 minutes
[09:23] <baizon> what hardware?
[09:24] <xubuntu319> 16 GB of ram, an ati 6800 HD series card, an intel quad-core processor
[09:25] <baizon> ou well :)
[09:25] <xubuntu319> I don't think is hardware the issue here
[09:25] <baizon> you can the installation process to see more infomation
[09:25] <xubuntu319> what?
[09:25] <baizon> check there were it stuck
[09:26] <baizon> http://media.cdn.ubuntu-de.org/wiki/attachments/48/16/04_01.png
[09:26] <baizon> down there you have a triangle
[09:26] <baizon> click on it
[09:26] <xubuntu319> yeah, I clicked on the arrow to see more information
[09:26] <xubuntu319> now it says
[09:27] <baizon> post it on pastebin.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <xubuntu319> how can I copy-paste it?
[09:27] <xubuntu319> It doesn't allow me
[09:27] <baizon> mark and ctrl+c ?
[09:28] <xubuntu319> Yeah, I tryed that
[09:28] <xubuntu319> But nothing...
[09:29] <baizon> then make a screenshot and uplaod it
[09:41] <Touhou44> Does anyone know if the bug where Nautilus is slow to load still exists in the latest Xubuntu?
[09:41] <baizon> Touhou44: you mean thunar?
[09:41] <Touhou44> Sorry, Thunar yes
[09:43] <knome> Touhou44, unfortunately, it does. it's fixed in the development release and we're about to push it to quantal too soonish
[09:44] <Touhou44> That's good news :)
[09:55] <nikolam> Touhou44, when you say slow to load, you mean that sometimes it waits for some period of time before it runs?
[09:56] <Touhou44> Yes, a delay before appearing
[11:19] <nikolam> lower xfce panel that dynamically pops up, get stuc after a while on 12.04 64bit
[11:20] <apm1> nikolam, do you have compositioning enabled ?
[11:20] <nikolam> apm1, i think so, since it is enabled by default?
[11:21] <apm1> no it isn't
[11:22] <nikolam> it was here at me, window manager tweaks>compositor>enable  display compositing is checked.
[11:22] <nikolam> Inly have open source graphics driver, it is amd x1250 /rs690
[11:22] <apm1> nikolam, my guess is have a look at the pannel prefrences
[11:23] <nikolam> apm1, i tried it, but after i unset and set hifing again, it just get a bit shorter and stays
[11:23] <apm1> nikolam, hifing ?
[11:23] <nikolam> don't know how it is on 12.10.
[11:24] <nikolam> You think I can install fresh 12.10 install on separate btrfs volume , so I can dual-boot 12.04 and 12.10 from same partition?
[11:24] <apm1> nikolam, my second guess is install fglrx drivers
[11:25] <apm1> nikolam, sure dual booting can work out
[11:25] <nikolam> no fglrx driver is available for this GPU for kernel above 8.04 LTS
[11:26] <nikolam> I like Btrfs, I got used to ZFS on openindiana before.
[11:27] <nikolam> But they take account snapshots during upgrade, hope ubuntu will do that too.
[11:27] <defile> nikolam, do you find it to be stable?
[11:27] <apm1> nikolam, well i can't say about that
[11:27] <nikolam> defile, I did not get to use it much just installed few days ago.
[11:27] <defile> ah, okay
[11:27] <nikolam> It does not have some great stability record, btrfs
[11:28] <nikolam> But Zfs is already here for 10 yrs
[11:28] <defile> okay
[11:28] <nikolam> Btrfs is fresh new
[11:28] <defile> I've already learned a hard lesson being an early adapter of ext3 on Red Hat back in the day
[11:30] <nikolam> I am thinking of startin 12.10 install from alternate to see if it will offer me to choose alternate Btrfs image to install and dualboot
[11:31] <nikolam> I previously wanted zfsonlinux root for Ubuntu, it also could be done with PPA and Live CD
[11:32]  * nikolam lunch
[11:42] <Andy80> is Xubuntu 12.10 alternate install available? Hasn't been dropped like the Ubuntu alternate?
[11:43] <Unit193> There isn't a Xubuntu 12.10 alternate, no.
[13:25] <Donnie> Stuck in recovery mode. grub package thing is not fount. Will not boot past waiting for network configuration
[13:28] <GridCube> Donnie, have you tried booting to a previous kernel?
[13:29] <Donnie> Yes. Same thing about the network config
[13:38] <nikolam> xfce4-weather applet does not work again. It does not rdisplay weather data after issuing refresh. It is like that for a few last days
[13:39] <GridCube> mmm
[13:53] <GridCube> nikolam, the service its working, you should check your internet connection
[13:54] <nikolam> thanks GridCube :P
[13:55] <GridCube> P: you're welcome
[13:55] <nikolam> it is true I am on wifi and there is some seconds of timeout. It seems he does not lilke to wait :)
[13:56] <GridCube> probably, it does have to fetch updates, but you could make a bug report explaining you issue and ask for it to show the latest fetched forecast if it includes the day you are in or something like that :P
[13:58] <nikolam> GridCube, yes, I suspect also many other apps have problems if network or resolving is not responsive
[14:01] <greasegum> has anyone had this experience? I'm on a big wifi network and everyone not running linux is getting great connectivity, while you're experiencing horrible netlag?
[14:02] <TheSheep> greasegum: anything relevant in dmesg?
[14:07] <greasegum> yeah I was getting this one iwlwifi error, trying to find my notes
[14:07] <greasegum> something about could not clear tx buffer
[14:07] <girafee> compiz is working fine on xubuntu 12.04, but how do i change theme?
[14:09] <GridCube> ask on #compiz maybe?
[14:10] <greasegum> here it is : fail to flush all tx fifo queues
[14:10] <girafee> ok.
[14:10] <girafee> thanks.
[14:10] <greasegum> but it wasn't consistently associated with my horribly erratic ping times
[14:10] <greasegum> just one thing I noticed
[14:12] <greasegum> TheSheep:: otherwise nothing unusual
[14:16] <greasegum> what could be causing my ping to be all over the place? I also checked to see if it could be an IPv6 issue, but that module isn't even loaded.
[14:17] <greasegum> sometimes ping would drop down to hundreds of msec, then I would get several, could not connect to host in a row, then it would come back for a bit
[14:18] <greasegum> nothing weird happening in 'watch dmesg...'
[14:29] <greasegum> help
[14:32] <GridCube> !patience | greasegum
[14:34] <greasegum> GridCube:: sorry, just frustrated. hopefully someone will take pity. I'm gonna try some other things meanwhile
[14:35] <GridCube> :) dont worry greasegum its understable, just have some patience, not all people here is watching the channel
[14:36] <GridCube> greasegum, please provide details of you hardware and other related data you think its importan aswel, that might help
[14:45] <Someone> hello
[14:46] <Guest72850> i have a quick question about deciding between the different ubuntus
[14:46] <GridCube> fire
[14:47] <Guest72850> is it possible to change the color of the theme? like, in the screenshots, all the folders and files are blue, i prefer green, can i change that without redoing the art?
[14:48] <GridCube> sure, its an icon theme
[14:48] <Guest72850> how?
[14:48] <Guest72850> btw, im doing this from standard ubuntu cause i dont really like gnome
[14:48] <GridCube> ah=
[14:48] <GridCube> you mean xubuntu?
[14:48] <Guest72850> yes
[14:48] <GridCube> ok
[14:48] <GridCube> yes
[14:48] <Guest72850> but the computer im typing this on is running regular ubuntu
[14:49] <Guest72850> how?
[14:49] <GridCube> go to preferences there choose Appareance (or what ever its in english it has a pallete and a pencil icon)
[14:49] <GridCube> there you have a tab named Icons
[14:49] <Guest72850> yes
[14:49] <Guest72850> 'appareance' is close enough
[14:50] <Guest72850> so in there i can pick a green theme?
[14:51] <Guest72850> ok thanks
[15:14] <xubuntu621> ciao a tutti
[15:14] <xubuntu621> ho un problema con compiz
[15:15] <xubuntu621> chi potrebbe aiutarmi?
[15:15] <TheSheep> !it | xubuntu621
[16:03] <ner0x> What would it take for me to tar.bz2 an entire install and be able to replicate that install on demand?
[16:06] <GridCube> ah?
[16:50] <[TiZ]> I find myself completely unable to select text in any way at all in every pure GTK application. What do I do to fix this?
[16:51] <ner0x> GridCube: If I wanted to rsync / and be able to extract it on another volume later on, and have that volume be a root device, how would I do so?
[16:52] <GridCube> probably some dd magic
[16:52] <GridCube> or a cloning software
[16:52] <GridCube> but most probably some dd magic
[16:52] <ner0x> GridCube: I was asking more alone the lines of: what dirs do I need in /
[16:53] <GridCube> oh, i have no idea sorry
[16:53] <GridCube> probably all of it except /home
[16:54] <[TiZ]> Click/drag, shift+arrows, even ctrl+a don't work. This seriously cripples my ability to use my work computer, so I *need* to have this fixed.
[16:54] <ner0x>  /dev and /proc are definitely not included.
[16:55] <GridCube> [TiZ], does this happens whit the guest user aswel?
[16:57] <[TiZ]> GridCube: I haven't tried the guest user.
[16:57] <GridCube> try that please
[16:58] <[TiZ]> GridCube: Xfce doesn't seem to have user switching, so that will have to wait for a tiny bit while I finish what I'm doing here.
[16:58] <GridCube> :) ok
[17:03] <[TiZ]> GridCube: I figured it out; it seems that x2x, which I use to communicate with the X server running on my displaylink monitor, was to blame.
[17:03] <[TiZ]> I was starting it incorrectly and for some reason that caused selecting text to just totally die off, I guess.
[17:03] <GridCube> oh :) good luck you find that out because that would have been a real pain to figure out from half the planet away P:
[17:04] <[TiZ]> Yeah, no kidding. :b
[17:22] <ncmccx> hello guys, whats an easyway to access mynetwork shares using xubuntu
[17:22] <ncmccx> in windows 7 i just click network and they all show up
[17:23] <GridCube> ncmccx, check that gvfs-backends its installed, then it should detect the network at boot, you can also use gigolo
[17:24] <ncmccx> ok can you please tell me how to check
[17:24] <ncmccx> am kinda new
[17:24] <ncmccx> if i click home or file system on my desktop there isnt a network option i dont think
[17:25] <GridCube> ncmccx, open a terminal, and type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends
[17:25] <ncmccx> ok
[17:25] <krishna_> ads
[17:25] <GridCube> it will update the software list and then install gvfs-backends if its not installed
[17:25] <krishna_> asd
[17:27] <ncmccx> ok it says is already the newest version
[17:27] <krishna_> hello all
[17:27] <GridCube> hi
[17:28] <GridCube> ncmccx, then open gigolo and see if your network is listed
[17:28] <[TiZ]> And now I have a new problem. I just installed the nvidia-current drivers on my work box... and now xfsettingsd crashes when I log in. I can't start xfsettingsd at all. It crashes with an X error, "BadMatch". I remember the same thing happening on 12.04, but I don't remember how I fixed it.
[17:29] <GridCube> [TiZ], you are getting send back to the lightdm greeter?
[17:29] <ncmccx> GridCube, nothing shows up in gigolo
[17:29] <[TiZ]> GridCube: No, I am able to log in successfully and stay logged in... however, I have no themes or icons.
[17:29] <[TiZ]> The wrong font is used too.
[17:30] <GridCube> ncmccx, then you are probably not seeing the network
[17:30] <GridCube> [TiZ], when you log in you choose a xubuntu sesssion or a xfce session?
[17:30] <[TiZ]> GridCube: Xubuntu session.
[17:30] <ncmccx> the command  smbtree shows my shares
[17:31] <GridCube> ncmccx, :/ i dont know then, sorry
[17:31] <ncmccx> is gigolo supposed to automatically show them?
[17:32] <GridCube> [TiZ], go to prefereneces, apparence, and window manager settings, there you can set up themes and icos
[17:32] <[TiZ]> GridCube: I know how to configure my themes.
[17:32] <[TiZ]> They are already configured exactly how I like them.
[17:33] <[TiZ]> I am telling you what the problem actually is. Xfsettingsd crashes on the nvidia proprietary drivers, and thus, no theme selection at all is loaded.
[17:33] <GridCube> ok
[17:33] <[TiZ]> Among whatever other problems could possibly arise from the settings daemon not running... I don't know what they could be, but I'm not sure I want to find out.
[17:36] <[TiZ]> Hmm... it didn't seem to like the display configuration I had.
[17:36] <[TiZ]> I deleted my displays.xml before logging in and now xfsettingsd doesn't crash.
[17:36] <ncmccx> anyone in here have xubuntu setup to see network shares???
[17:36] <ncmccx> why is something so basic not supported in xubuntu?
[17:38] <[TiZ]> ncmccx: There's a bug in Thunar... it often won't properly load with the necessary libraries to see network stuff. Do this for me.
[17:38] <[TiZ]> Hit Alt+F2, and type killall Thunar.
[17:38] <[TiZ]> Then hit Alt+F2 again, and type Thunar --daemon.
[17:39] <[TiZ]> Then start up your file manager, and you will see that you now have icons for Trash and Network in your sidebar. You should be able to browse network shares from the network icon now.
[17:40] <ncmccx> hmm i dont think kill all worked
[17:40] <ncmccx> can i run it in terminal?
[17:40] <[TiZ]> I hope you didn't put a space in it.
[17:40] <ncmccx> i think i did
[17:40] <Aicasn> out of curiousity... how do you guys handle your apt updates? don't you get sick of seeing the red icon up there all the time even though it feels like you update constantly?
[17:40] <[TiZ]> Yeah... don't put a space in it. Type it exactly as I typed it.
[17:40] <[TiZ]> Also, you won't see any output other than any file manager windows you have open closing.
[17:41] <ncmccx> no i did killall one word space thunar
[17:41] <[TiZ]> Title case Thunar.
[17:41] <[TiZ]> It's really weird, the main binary is titlecased. No other binary in linux is like that.
[17:41] <awillson> For filing a bug report, I found a matching report on the programs own bug reporter how would it be best to put that down, just as a comment?
[17:42] <[TiZ]> "killall Thunar". Exactly like that. And then, "Thunar --daemon".
[17:42] <[TiZ]> I don't want you to do it in a terminal, because if you do, the Thunar daemon will be in the terminal foreground, and it will die if you close the terminal. If you use the run dialog, it will work better.
[17:42] <ncmccx> it must be case sensitive
[17:42] <[TiZ]> It is case sensitive.
[17:43] <ncmccx> sweet i see network now
[17:43] <ncmccx> trash was there all along i think not network
[17:43] <[TiZ]> Lucky. On my setup, the trash doesn't work unless I apply the fix. Which, luckily, I have done automatically whenever I log in. And which I will show you how to do now.
[17:44] <ncmccx> it goes network then windows network then work group now it hangs
[17:44] <[TiZ]> Give it some time.
[17:44] <ncmccx> kk
[17:44] <ncmccx> what shares do you have?
[17:44] <ncmccx> linux samba shares or windows shares?
[17:44] <ncmccx> i got failed to open workgroup
[17:45] <ncmccx> after it hung for a while
[17:45] <ncmccx> i wish it would just scan for all shares on the network
[17:46] <[TiZ]> Hmm...
[17:46] <[TiZ]> It *should* do that.
[17:46] <ncmccx> it just says windows and workgroup
[17:46] <[TiZ]> I can't very well test mine from where I am right now; I'm at work and our share system is kind of elaborate.
[17:47] <ncmccx> does it see them all?
[17:47] <ncmccx> what shares do you have? any windows 7?
[17:48] <ncmccx> is there a place i need to configure this
[17:48] <ncmccx> gees ubuntu is so not user friendly this is why windows is eating linuxs lunch
[17:48] <[TiZ]> Well, at home, I just have a samba share running on a Linux server. So that may not be the *best* test case. But where I am right now, I have the sprawling network of a university.
[17:48] <ncmccx> aceessing network shares is nothing new and should work out of the box
[17:49] <ncmccx> i see
[17:49] <ncmccx> well i have both types of shares here
[17:49] <[TiZ]> I really love how every time there's one thing that goes wrong, every new user, without fail, goes "man, linux isn't user friendly at all! this is why windows is winning!"
[17:49] <[TiZ]> Except not really.
[17:49] <ncmccx> linux servers running samba and windows machine
[17:50] <ncmccx> except really
[17:50] <[TiZ]> No, I mean I DON'T like it.
[17:50] <ncmccx> if basic networking doesnt work then sorry you have a problem
[17:50] <ncmccx> windows 7 sees all  shares available on the network
[17:50] <ncmccx> automatically
[17:51] <[TiZ]> Okay, stop for a second.
[17:51] <[TiZ]> Get out of your tunnel vision. I know you're frustrated, and I sympathize.
[17:51] <ncmccx> download xubuntu and not only does it not show other shares on linux machines but its networking is actually broken out of the box
[17:51] <[TiZ]> Think about literally every other part of the system.
[17:51] <ncmccx> lol the truth is sad
[17:52] <[TiZ]> Well, that's something you might have mentioned earlier. What's wrong with the networking?
[17:52] <ncmccx> i like linux all my servers run it but no way will they get market share with crap like this
[17:52] <ncmccx> and ubuntu unity was a dumb mistake
[17:52] <ncmccx> now im xubuntu to get away from unity and im on my network and cant bloody access any of my info
[17:53] <[TiZ]> Will you stop ranting and answer my questions so I can try to help you?
[17:53] <ncmccx> lol sorry
[17:53] <ncmccx> 1 more rant
[17:53] <ncmccx> this is linuxs chance
[17:53] <ncmccx> windows 8 sucks
[17:54] <ncmccx> this is a windows 8 laptop i am on i got it and wiped linux 8 immediately but now i cant recommend others do the same
[17:54] <[TiZ]> Ah... there it is.
[17:54] <[TiZ]> You have brand new hardware.
[17:55] <ncmccx> why dhould brand new hardware stop me from accessing my network?
[17:55] <ncmccx> like i said i can see them
[17:55] <ncmccx> i can ssh into them
[17:55] <ncmccx> i can even use gigolo and ssh
[17:55] <[TiZ]> Then why not use Gigolo and SSH?
[17:56] <ncmccx> smbtree shows me windows and linux shares
[17:56] <[TiZ]> Personally, I *love* that combination.
[17:56] <[TiZ]> Ah... I see... so it's a problem with Thunar.
[17:56] <ncmccx> um yeah
[17:57] <ncmccx> its not like xubuntu is new its been around for ages
[17:57] <[TiZ]> I'm gonna level with you.
[17:57] <ncmccx> i like the look i tried it once before in like 2005
[17:57] <[TiZ]> You know how many people work on XFCE?
[17:58] <ncmccx> not many?
[17:58] <[TiZ]> Maybe like five people at the very most, not counting translators. It has very little people power behind it.
[17:58] <Aicasn> tons
[17:58] <Aicasn> millions
[17:58] <Aicasn> more every day
[17:58] <Aicasn> oops. thought we were talking about windows...
[17:59] <Unit193> May want to move to #xubuntu-offtopic though.
[17:59] <ncmccx> ok linux mint is not much better
[17:59] <[TiZ]> Yeah, you're probably right. I'll just go ahead and get to my point.
[17:59] <ncmccx> so i bele\ieve you
[18:00] <[TiZ]> Thunar's network share browsing capability is *very* rudimentary.
[18:00] <GridCube> !ot
[18:00] <[TiZ]> If that's an essential thing for you, you should probably consider MATE or Cinnamon.
[18:01] <ncmccx> what is different?
[18:01] <[TiZ]> I'm sure you could get Nautilus/Nemo/Caja installed in XFCE, but you will suck in loads of Gnome dependencies.
[18:01] <ncmccx> this is ontopic . this channel is usually dead anyway so maybe instead of chasing people to off topic you can get retention in here first so we can help each other
[18:02] <ncmccx> if not for tiz i woudnt know that there was supposed to be a network option in thunar
[18:02] <[TiZ]> A lot is different, but the critical and relevant difference here is the file manager, Nautilus (or a fork of it).
[18:02] <[TiZ]> Nautilus is very mature, and it's had network browsing for a long time.
[18:03] <ncmccx> xfce is supposed to be lighter weight?
[18:03] <[TiZ]> Yeah. XFCE's a tiny bit heavier than LXDE, but it's more capable, more integrated.
[18:04] <Aicasn> cinnamon looks interesting....
[18:04] <[TiZ]> But even so, that also means a few features fall short occasionally, especially with the little man hours behind it. I hate to be the guy in #xubuntu telling you not to use xubuntu, but it's honesty.
[18:04] <[TiZ]> Since MATE, Cinnamon, Unity, and Gnome all have the more mature Nautilus file manager, it will handle your file browsing needs better.
[18:04] <ncmccx> we'll see
[18:05] <[TiZ]> In fact, you can make sure of that yourself, if you can brave through using Unity.
[18:05] <ncmccx> i might just ssh in
[18:05] <ncmccx> with gigolo i didnt know i could manage files over ssh
[18:05] <ncmccx> is there a limit?
[18:05] <[TiZ]> Oh yeah, gigolo's awesome.
[18:05] <[TiZ]> No limit at all, as far as I know.
[18:05] <ncmccx> like file size xfer?
[18:05] <ncmccx> can i stream video?
[18:06] <[TiZ]> You should be able to, yeah.
[18:06] <[TiZ]> In fact, probably better than if you were able to use Samba anyways, lol.
[18:06] <holstein> with linux, the limits are typically hardware... and what you are willing to bother setting up
[18:06] <ncmccx> how did you know there was a thunar bug?
[18:07] <[TiZ]> Same thing happened to me. I wanted to empty my trash from the file manager. I opened it up... no trash icon in the sidebar. No network icon either.
[18:07] <[TiZ]> I looked it up, found a bug report and a workaround alongside it.
[18:08] <[TiZ]> Which, by the way... the consistent fix for that is to create an autostart program in the Session and Startup section of the Settings Manager. You'll want the command to be this: bash -c "sleep 2; killall Thunar; exec Thunar --daemon"
[18:08] <[TiZ]> The bug is caused by a race condition. GVFS isn't ready when Thunar starts up... so the logical fix is to wait a bit and restart it.
[18:09] <ncmccx> i see
[18:09] <ncmccx> where do I add that command?
[18:09] <holstein> autostart
[18:09] <[TiZ]> Click your applications menu, and open the Settings Manager. Then in the System section, select Session and Startup.
[18:09] <ncmccx> im not that familiar sadly
[18:10] <[TiZ]> In that dialog, there's an Application Autostart tab. You can add the new entry there.
[18:10] <[TiZ]> And make sure to type the command exactly as I do so here:
[18:10] <[TiZ]> bash -c "sleep 2; killall Thunar; exec Thunar --daemon"
[18:11] <[TiZ]> You can name it and describe it however you want; that part doesn't matter.
[18:12] <ncmccx> command with " "
[18:12] <ncmccx> ?
[18:13] <ncmccx> i left quotes in thanks
[18:13] <[TiZ]> Yes, leave the quotes in.
[18:14] <ncmccx> i probably have to configure it because it only makes an icon for windows workgroup
[18:14] <ncmccx> that times out
[18:14] <[TiZ]> To be honest? I don't think any amount of configuration is going to fix this one.
[18:15] <[TiZ]> Like I said, Thunar's network browsing is *very* rudimentary.
[18:15] <ncmccx> is there an auto start file that this command was added to?
[18:15] <[TiZ]> Like, it's good enough for basic home networks, and that's it.
[18:15] <ncmccx> ok Do you still use xfce?
[18:15] <[TiZ]> Yes, it created a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart
[18:15] <[TiZ]> Yup. I still use XFCE and I love it.
[18:15] <holstein> one of the first things i missed about nautilus, til i found gigolo
[18:16] <[TiZ]> Fortunately, I have no need to browse between network shares in my file manager.
[18:16] <ncmccx> are the shortcuts that pop up at the bottome new?
[18:16] <[TiZ]> Like... you can still browse *inside* the shares with the file manager, once you get to them. It's just that share discovery in Thuar is kinda... bad.
[18:17] <[TiZ]> That's new with 12.04, I think. It's not standard in XFCE, it's just a bit of flair that the xubuntu team added.
[18:17] <ncmccx> yeah that is the only problem i have but i can live with it
[18:17] <ncmccx> ok i like the popup itEMS
[18:17] <[TiZ]> I flip the panel layout, myself. Main panel on bottom, launchers on top. Since the only thing at the top of the screen at any time anyways is usually just title bars.
[18:18] <[TiZ]> I don't like having title bars between my panel and useful chrome. I'm weirdly OCD like that. :b
[18:20] <[TiZ]> Alright, I need to take my lunch break. Any other questions before I take off?
[18:20] <ncmccx> No thanks man youve been a huge help
[18:20] <[TiZ]> I'm glad. Alright, take care.
[18:20] <ncmccx> u 2 :)
[18:29] <ner0x> Any cronjob entires that will fire on startup shutdown?
[19:10] <jsphillips86> Gotta say, loving Xubuntu. Regular Ubuntu kept crapping out on me, this runs a lot better
[19:12] <Cigam> Hey all. I am new to this IRC channel but was wondering can someone tell me how to change my Xubuntu 12.04 color depth to 32 bit? the videos and pictures are banded since I think I am on 24 bit
[19:13] <jsphillips86> Debconf keeps popping up though. Any way to figure out why? It just flashes and then disappears
[19:18] <Pici> jsphillips86: What Windows calls 32 bit color is actually 24 bit color with 8 bits of alpha.
[19:18] <jsphillips86> Pici, I think you meant that for Cigam
[19:18] <Pici> jsphillips86: I did, sorry.
[19:19] <jsphillips86> Pici, No problem
[19:29] <Cigam> jsphillips86 when I do: xdpyinfo it shows that there is a 32 bit depth I could be on but am not currently, thats why I wondered, but if 24 is true color then why do I have bands and not a smooth gradient?
[19:29] <Cigam> oops Pici :P
[19:30] <Cigam> i meant that for you
[19:30] <jsphillips86> Cigam, Lol. Glad to be a part of your conversation! :D
[19:31] <Cigam> lol yeah ;) im glad too
[19:48] <ner0x> Can you someone rsync / and in the future copy that to a hd and boot to it?
[19:48] <ner0x> s/someone/somehow
[21:47] <xubuntu087> bonjour tt le monde, on peut parler français ?
[21:50] <GridCube> !fr | xubuntu087
[21:50] <GridCube> :)
[21:50] <hhhzzzarn> who else have the volume icon missing?
[21:50] <GridCube> hhhzzzarn, everyone using 12.10
[21:50] <hhhzzzarn> It was there a couple of days ago. :(
[21:51] <GridCube> on 12.10?
[21:51] <hhhzzzarn> Yes.
[21:52] <hhhzzzarn> Maybe it went missing after an update or something that I did.
[22:02] <hhhzzzarn> What is the shortcut to exist fullscreen window mode again? Testing some windows options
[22:03] <unnie> hello!
[22:04] <unnie> is there anyone online that's using 12.04? I just have a quick question :]
[22:05] <pleia2> ask away :)
[22:06] <hhhzzzarn> what is the shortcut to exist fullscreen window mode again (from memory)? I am stuck :)
[22:06] <unnie> I'm just curious as to what kernel you're running, as well as if you're using a desktop or laptop
[22:07] <pleia2> unnie: I've been traveling for about 4 weeks without good internet, so I'm on 3.2.0-31-generic and probably have a kernel update pending, on a netbook
[22:07] <pleia2> hhhzzzarn: no need to repeat your question, if someone knows they will answer
[22:08] <unnie> What is the average battery life for your netbook?
[22:08] <hhhzzzarn> posted on same channel.
[22:09] <pleia2> unnie: only 1.5 hr, old battery (4 year old netbook)
[22:09] <pleia2> was more like 4.5 when it was new ;)
[22:11] <unnie> I guess it's time for me to invest in a new battery then! I get 40 minutes on a laptop from 2011, and a BIOS warning about my battery being in poor shape haha
[22:12] <pleia2> yeah, I'd suggest a new battery
[22:13] <unnie> I've found some nice 12 cell ones, so I guess I'll have to drop the $60 for one :) Thanks for the answer in regards to kernel + battery life!
[22:13] <pleia2> good luck :)
[22:14] <unnie> Thank you :) Have a pleasant night!
[22:15] <hhhzzzarn> my netbook has 7 hours
[22:15] <GridCube> my netbook 15 minutes
[22:15] <hhhzzzarn> but 5 hours now since it is old
[22:16] <hhhzzzarn> i guess it was 6 anyways to start with and not 7
[22:16] <GridCube> hhhzzzarn, fullscreen of what?
[22:16] <hhhzzzarn> gridcube, i found the shortcut key. alt+f11
[22:16] <GridCube> for what?
[22:17] <hhhzzzarn> fullscreen for any window
[22:17] <GridCube> oh... would you look at that!
[22:17] <GridCube> D:
[22:18] <GridCube> ok you teach me a new trick ill teach you one too, move your mouse pointer to the tittle bar of a window and scroll over it, if you have composition ON you will see how the window goes transparent! :D
[22:46] <hhhzzzarn> back
[22:46] <hhhzzzarn> composition on, let me see if i can find it.
[22:47] <GridCube> if you see transparencies than its on :P
[22:47] <hhhzzzarn> its not. It just rolls up the window
[22:47] <hhhzzzarn> how do I activate composition?
[22:48] <hhhzzzarn> i have: enable windows compositing on. Checking sub options
[22:48] <GridCube> thats it
[22:48] <GridCube> hhhzzzarn, yes, press alt while scrolling
[22:48] <hhhzzzarn> oh :)
[22:48] <GridCube> if you dont then it just rolls the window
[22:49] <hhhzzzarn> :D
[22:49] <hhhzzzarn> I tried this once before in compiz
[22:49] <GridCube> :P no compiz needed
[22:49] <hhhzzzarn> but that was years ago
[22:50] <hhhzzzarn> I am going to use my xubuntu in lecture rooms. I sit in front row so everyone behind me sees my desktop.
[22:50] <hhhzzzarn> I will make sure i try that trick next time.
[22:50] <GridCube> XD
[22:53] <hhhzzzarn> Opacity of window during move -> 0. Teleportation.
[22:56] <GridCube> drag windows to the borders, see it rezise to take exactly half the screen
[22:57] <GridCube> press alt-f5 and alt-f6 to the same effect
[22:57] <unheeding> drag it to the top for maximized
[23:01] <hhhzzzarn> I see
[23:01] <hhhzzzarn> I know the drap and snaps :)
[23:01] <hhhzzzarn> I especially like xubuntu as it divides the top half and bottom half, right half and left half.
[23:03] <GridCube> unless you are one of those crazy people with more than one virtual desktop, then you can drag windows trhough desktops that way, i dont see the point of that, but hey!
[23:04] <hhhzzzarn> I don't have two desktops so I need to divide it top half and bottom half, pdf lecture slides on one half, taking notes on the other. or reading articles on one half and taking notes on the other.
[23:05] <hhhzzzarn> I mostly use my snap to move files between two folders, easier if they side by side.
[23:30] <nantou> whenever I plug in an external HDD I get 2 entry points in thunar (left part of the screen) as if they were 2 different HDD
[23:30] <nantou> why is that?
[23:34] <unheeding> it's a known issue