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aasdIs something going on with kubuntu's webpage? www.kubuntu.org00:16
SIR_Tacoaasd: like what exactly?00:17
aasdthe inicial page shows only "OK".00:17
SIR_Tacoaasd: not here00:18
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aasdSIR_Taco: Ok. That is strange, my web browser shows me only the text "OK", however if I execute "lwp-request www.kubuntu.org" on the command line, it shows me the right webpage...00:23
SIR_Tacoaasd: odd00:25
aasdIn addittion to that, rekonq is working fine, however firefox still showing me up only the text "OK"..00:26
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JimmyJohnnyI just downloaded KUbuntu 12.10 .ISO and it exceeds a normal CD, can you just burn it to a regular DVD and make it bootable?02:45
xixorJimmyJohnny: Yes02:46
JimmyJohnnyI figured that was about the only possible thing to do. Not sure what else I could to do to make it bootable. :)02:48
JimmyJohnnyI guess a bd-r would work also but that's overkill02:50
msxJimmyJohnny: USB boot, PXE boot02:58
junzhuHI02:59
xerukmI have a simple question that maybe somebody can help with, how do you manually install plasma themes?03:03
xerukmi checked around on google, and the few methods ive found don't work03:04
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dogweatherxerukm, the app for that is installed by default. Lets you browse and install themes. Is that what you're looking for?03:17
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JimmyJohnnywhy are the 64-bit ISO images always preceded with AMD, those work for Intel too, dont they?03:50
DarthFrogJimmyJohnny:  Yes, AMD64 works with Intel CPUs, too.  But the 64-bit instruction set was developed by AMD and licensed by Intel.  Naturally enough, Intel doesn't want to give AMD any credit so they call it x86-64.  But it's AMD's baby as Intel went with Itanium.04:04
JimmyJohnnyinteresting, i never knew that, thanks.04:06
JimmyJohnnyim surprised Intel still uses anything developed by AMD considering AMD is losing the CPU wars right now04:08
dniMretsaMquick question. how do I hide the "Desktop" button on my second monitor? I know I've done it before, but I can't figure it you again04:09
JimmyJohnnyyou=out04:10
JimmyJohnnymaking my bootable usf flash drive to try out kubuntu 12.1004:11
JimmyJohnnyusf=usb04:12
svsplwhy there is no kubuntu-12.04.1-dvd-i386.iso? cd version is updated but dvd not04:16
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BinaryCortexhelp06:09
BinaryCortexi have kubuntu installed via wubi06:09
BinaryCortexbut it doesnt see the onboard wifi card06:09
BinaryCortexhow do i tell it to look again06:10
BinaryCortexhelooooooooooooo06:43
BinaryCortexis anyone awake06:43
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BinaryCortexnever mind06:46
BinaryCortexi got it06:46
BinaryCortexadditional drivers needed to be run twice06:47
BinaryCortexonce to download, and again to search06:47
BinaryCortexno clue why06:47
noaXessmorning07:08
noaXessdoes anybody also have issues with firefox latest on 12.10? if i start it, it uses a lot of cpu, w/o doing anything07:08
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BluesKajHi all12:15
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sasoriback on kde, havent been back in years.  unity...... anyways.  i have a few questions, 1, why does minimize make the windows disappear to no where and not the task bar, 2, how do i fix the task bar??14:34
BluesKajsasori, click on the cashew "panel tool box" icon on the right of the panel , choose add widgets , then type taskbar in the search14:37
sasorio woah............. weird............ i added a default panal, and its my original panel, overlayed on some other random panel, that is very weird14:38
sasorilol.... so dragged it down, deleted other one, problem solved14:39
sasorithanks for the tip though14:39
sasoribtw, kde is AWESOME!  i havent been on here since 4.1014:40
BluesKajhehyeah , didn't realize how good til I tried unity and gnome again just to check it out14:42
buzz_some maintenance on kubuntu.org or an accident ? http://www.kubuntu.org/ the download page etc is still working but14:46
tsimpsonbuzz_: what's not working?14:49
buzz_strange. checking as its returning something strange on my browser. but not on wget14:50
BluesKajbuzz_, dunno , but it looks fishy because there's no explanation.14:50
buzz_on firefox its just giving me "OK" no html etc. on wget/chromium i get the page/site14:51
mad-leighhi is there a site that can help guide me ... wants chronix radio installed in radio tray or my media player14:53
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tsimpsonbuzz_: works for me in FF 16.0.214:53
buzz_something weird going on. could be my system. http://www.kubuntu.org/index.php shows correctly and http://www.kubuntu.org/ doesnt. im going to clear cache etc14:54
buzz_hmm and now it just decided to work again. oh well. ;-)15:00
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sasorisorry, another question.  trying to setup external moniotr as primary, with laptop off, and lid shut.  how do i set vga as primary???15:31
BluesKajsasori, which graphics card?15:33
sasoriblues asus u30sd, geforce gt520M15:34
BluesKajok sasori have you installed the nvidia-current driver . if so you should have a settings option in the nvidia settings GUI15:35
sasoriBluesKaj: ahh i see.  i dont think i have that yet.  forst time back on kde in 5-6 years.  and its so awesome.15:36
sasoriBluesKaj: went to additional drivers.  3 options.  "Experimental NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernal module and VDPAU library" and 2 postings of "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernal module and VDPAU library"15:38
sasoriwhich do you suggest?15:39
BluesKajsasori, none of the above , oiprn a terminal , sudo apt-get install nvidia current , then sudo nvidia-xconfig  , then reboot15:40
sasoriBluesKaj:  are you sure man, :15:42
sasoriE: Unable to locate package nvidia15:42
sasoriE: Unable to locate package current15:42
BluesKajsorry sasori nvidia-current, I forgot the -15:43
sasorilol!  ok thanks15:43
* BluesKaj curses the KB ...gotta blame it , I never make mistakes:)15:43
sasorilol :)  ok reboot time15:46
sasoriBluesKaj: lol, not a success.  i keep running this comand as sudo, and restart.  but no love.  keeps saying this15:51
sasoriYou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server15:51
sasorinow my resolution is like..... mega big15:51
BluesKajsasori, ok , drop to a tty, ctrl+alt+F1, sudo service kdm or lightdm stop, and do, sudo nvidia-xconfig15:55
BluesKajok , I have tpo leave now ..if you have more trouble , I'm sure omeone else can helpr ot you can also join #ubuntu for adviced since this is a graphics driver issue15:56
xixoryou can see if the nvidia module is loaded.  lsmod | grep nvidia15:58
sasoriBluesKaj: cool, thanks mate!16:01
sasoriwill give it a go16:01
xixorwhen I installed kubuntu and setup my nvidia card, I did that automatic hardware wizard thing in kubuntu, and selected the Nvidia binary driver.  It's the proprietary binary blob that everyone hates because it's not open source, but everyone uses because it's the most stable and best performing16:06
xixorbut I see that it installed nvidia-current, nvidia-settings, and nvidia-common on my system16:06
xixorAfter that, I just rebooted, and everything was working16:07
sasoriBluesKaj: neither worked mate.  ldm did show a response, waiting.  and then did the xconfig, restart, no love16:09
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thesasorihey guys, how do i get to use external display as primary, with laptop closed and screen off????16:53
phoenix_firebrdhello everyone16:53
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xixorthat is someothing I tried to do with my macbook pro and kubuntu 12.04.... I was never able to satisfactorily achieve this task16:53
thesasorixixor: crap..............16:54
thesasoriits SO easy in ubu.  not sure why its so overly complicated in kubu16:54
xixorI'm not saying it's not possible... anything is.  I just couldn't figure it out.  It would work some of the time16:54
xixorif it's possible in ubuntu, should be doable in kubuntu I think16:54
simplewyofel_: hi16:54
thesasorione would think........... but its way different16:54
simplewremember yesterday i asked it to change the parameter value of a kernel module it would be only needed to modprobe it? well to change the parameter value its needed to first unload the module and then modprobe it with the value we want, else it will not work16:56
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tobiasBoraHello !17:19
tobiasBoraDoes anyone know how I could change the opacity of the bottom bar in the oxygen theme ?17:19
tobiasBora(in the last realease it was more dark and I prefere like this)17:20
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bbeck_tobiasBora: I don't believe you can change the opacity of a theme without editing the svg files of the theme.17:55
tobiasBorabbeck_: indeed, but when I change the svg file, nothing happened.17:56
tobiasBoraIn fact, when I change something in the svg file, I've to change the bar size to actualiser17:56
tobiasBorais it normal ?17:56
tobiasBora*actualize ?17:57
bbeck_tobiasBora: I apologize, I've never modified a theme so I don't really know.17:57
tobiasBoraok. I did what I want, so I solve my problem. Thanks ! (but if anyone has a way to actualize faster a theme, please tell me !)17:58
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harriseldontobiasBora - I know a way to manually change it by using a custom panel-background.svgz image. I do not know of a way to manage the opacity from the ui. It is embedded in the theme's version of this svg image.18:04
harriseldonI did it for my current theme by creating a custom version of this file.18:05
harriseldonIn the settings for the desktop theme, there is a Details tab.18:06
harriseldonFrom there you can customize individual elements of the theme. This would also allow you to pick the panel background from a different where the colors match your preference if you did not want to create one on your own.18:07
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yofelsimplew: oh right, sorry, I was kinda assuming you were re-loading the module, and not trying to just load it -.-18:27
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o3zytestanyone home.... I'm lost here18:29
o3zytestnoone home18:30
salvatoreciao18:30
o3zytestanyone have any ideas on how I fix this thing18:33
o3zytestnobody here at all.... in all those users18:36
monkeyjuiceask your question18:36
simplewyofel: hi18:36
yofelo3zytest: it would really help if you would tell us what your problem is :)18:38
o3zytestI just installed 12.10 and can't login to my user.... I can login as guest but that's it18:39
simplewyofel: i remember you pointed a debain packagement howto, can you tell me the url again18:39
yofelo3zytest: any error? or does it just tell you the password is wrong?18:40
o3zytestnope... password is ok... the screen flashes and it's back to the login18:40
o3zytestI see the X cursor momentarily18:40
salvatore!list18:42
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yofelouch18:42
o3zytestI can ctrl-alt-f1 and login... but I can't do anything18:43
yofelsimplew: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ - and someone else pointed me to this, which is a good overview: git.debian.org/?p=users/lucas/packaging-tutorial.git;a=blob_plain;f=packaging-tutorial.pdf;hb=refs/heads/pdf18:43
o3zytestah well... one more thing to try then it'll be back to Mandriva [sigh]18:43
o3zytesttell DarthFrog I gave it a shot18:43
yofelsimplew: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ to complete the link list18:45
yofelo3zytest: is there some kind of error in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old ?18:45
simplewyofel: i just want one that cn be simple and direct and can say what to do in ubuntu18:45
testorwho can tell... I can't get there from a guest account18:45
o3zytestah well... if I can't fix this it's back to mandriva.... ttfn18:46
yofel...18:46
simplewyofel: weird, theres any pdf reader isntaleld by default in kubuntu...18:47
yofelsimplew: okular18:47
simplewfirefox pointed krita to open the pdf...18:48
yofelo.O18:48
yofelfile a bug against krite about wrong mime type settings I guess -.-18:48
yofel*krita18:48
yofelsimplew: wait, did that happen in a fresh install?18:49
simplewyofel: its a fresh install18:50
yofelnot good...18:50
simplewyofel: and okular is installed18:50
yofelI'll note it down and check that later18:50
yofelsimplew: btw. - when you mean simple guide: to do what? Package modification, build, new package, applying patches, tool setup, archive layout explenation, ...18:52
simplewyofel: i have installed cinnamon that triggers nautilus install, now fireofx runs  nautlius as default filemanager, how can i change that?18:54
yofelfirefox settings maybe? IIRC mozilla software have their own default settings for such things18:55
simplewyofel: solution:   Edit /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache change x-directory/gnome-default-handler=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop to x-directory/gnome-default-handler=kde4-dolphin.desktop19:01
yofel:/19:02
gogahi huys. can anyone tell me, kde developers chat room???19:02
yofelgoga: work related #kde-devel19:03
gogathanks.19:03
simplewyofel: in /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache krita is set as the default pdf viewer:    application/pdf=kde4-krita_pdf.desktop;kde4-okularApplication_pdf.desktop;19:09
yofel/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache is a generated file I believe, so something is wrong elsewhere19:09
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douglanyone awake in here? DISPLAY 0:xbmc ?19:31
douglhow do I start an application on my secondary display?19:34
ozzzyso... how do things in kubuntu work.... there doesnt' seem to be a superuser password19:45
douglsame ozzzy ?19:49
dougldvd copy?19:49
ozzzysame ozzzy19:49
dougllol cool19:49
ozzzyyep... dvd copy19:49
ozzzyI installed 12.10 and it was a huge mess19:49
douglsudo su - then make passwd19:49
douglsame19:49
dougl12.10 is the install from hell... but is nice and stable19:50
ozzzyok... I think I have to nuke my .kde4 dir19:50
douglI used my kde config from 12.0419:50
ozzzyI'm coming from mandriva 2010.219:50
douglwow - dunno there19:51
ozzzyI had issues with booting too....19:51
douglbeen ubuntu for years now19:51
ozzzya few times I had to boot the dvd and select 'boot from first hd'19:51
douglmix of ide and sata?19:51
ozzzynope19:51
ozzzyall sata19:51
douglhmmm19:51
ozzzylemme try this again... I have nothing but time =)19:51
ozzzyso... sudo -19:52
dougleither way I did 2 machines 12.10 and both had issues19:52
douglsudo su -19:52
ozzzyhmmm19:52
dougland your user pass19:52
ozzzyso.... which is the most stable19:52
douglthen passwd19:52
douglas root19:52
dougl12/1019:52
ozzzyyou've lost me19:52
dougl.19:52
ozzzyahhh... su -... then enter user pass... then run passwd?19:53
douglright19:53
ozzzyok19:53
ozzzybbiab... maybe LOL19:53
douglthe ubuntu way19:53
dougllater19:53
ibm_#19:53
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douglhow do I start xbmc on my secondary display in my nvidia/twinview config in kde on my kubuntu 12.10 installation?19:58
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[Raiden]https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LinusTorvalds/posts/DbmEE8kXLDA20:36
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brijeshhello world :-)21:19
lordievaderHey brijesh how are you this fine evening?21:21
heinkel_111is there  a DVD version of 12.10 to be downloaded somewhere?21:31
brijeshgreat21:31
heinkel_111or is only CD version now?21:31
brijesh@heinkel i am haveing it right now in my pen drive21:32
lordievaderheinkel_111: Isn't it the other way around? DVD being the only option: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block21:32
brijeshif u guide me , then i can transfer it to you21:32
heinkel_111lordievader: i am a bit puzzled by what seems like misleading information concering the bittorrent links in that case21:34
heinkel_111it says  Desktop CD, 64bit21:34
lordievaderheinkel_111: I see now, that is confusing indeed. The regular download is 900mb and I think the torrent is the same size.21:35
tsimpsonheinkel_111: there is now one image, it's larger than a CD so you can call it a DVD image if you want21:35
tsimpsonthere's no longer a separation of live-cd/alternate-cd/dvd, just the one ISO21:36
lordievadertsimpson: He has a point, the site says CD. Tad bit confusing, perhaps someone should edit it.21:36
heinkel_111ok so it is only one kind of image file, regardless of where you  intend to burn it21:36
tsimpsonlordievader: poke someone in #kubuntu-devel if anyone's back from UDS yet21:36
brijeshhow to run a java code in linux ?21:37
tsimpsonby running it in java21:37
heinkel_111with java21:37
tsimpson!java21:37
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.21:37
heinkel_111brijesh: dont be insulted, i am just spilling all my competence in that field21:38
heinkel_111anyone seen a "what is new" summary for 12.10 posted somewhere?21:40
simplewyofel: can restart network-manager service and tell me if you get doubled wifi network entries from network manager icon in plasma panel?21:44
douglwhat happened to nvidia-setting being able to configure 2 seperate x sessions?21:46
yofelsimplew: yes21:46
simplewyofel: and you restart again? what appears?21:47
yofeladded another one to the tooltip, but the number in the widget menu is the same21:48
simplewyofel: im understanding what you say21:49
simplewyofel: im not understanding what you say21:49
yofelsimplew: I do get doubled entries, but only once21:50
yofelit doesn't just increase the number every time (it does in the tooltip though)21:50
simplewyofel: so when you restarted the service for the 3 time you got one entry for wifi like expected?21:50
yofelI had 221:50
yofelthe tooltip had 321:50
yofelboth should've had 121:51
simplewif restart for the 4 time i loose all wifi networks and stay only with my own21:51
simplewyofel: whats the ml of ubuntu devel?21:54
yofelubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com (don't ask there about this problem though. Network Manager does what it should)21:58
yofelthe list might be subscriber-only btw.21:58
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brijeshhow to get Nvidia Gpu driver in Kubuntu 12.10 .. any openioun22:20
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[Raiden]brijesh: sudo apt-get install  nvidia-current nvidia -settings ; sudo nvidia-xconfig22:28
[Raiden]nvidia-settings22:28
brijeshlet me try -_-22:31
brijesh what is this error in java coading "hello world "---> { <identifier> expected }22:38
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brijeshdone22:44
douglanyone know of a codec for kubuntu to play mkv video and audio?23:06
DarthFrogdougl: I didn't have to install anything special .  MKV, MP4 just worked.23:07
douglDarthFrog, hmmm... not sure what is going on here then - thanks23:09
DarthFrogdougl: I installed xine and mplayer, the codecs might have been brought along with them.23:14
[Raiden]dougl: try smplayer\mplayer2 or vlc23:14
genii-aroundvlc ❤23:18
jonohey all23:26
jonoI just installed and ran kubuntu-desktop in a normal Ubuntu 12.10 installation and then when I boot back into Unity my GTK apps look like KDE apps23:27
jonohows do I switch this off?23:27
[Raiden]jono: may be install gnome-tweak-tool and change theme.  оr run systemsettings (kde)  and change gtk theme/23:29
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[Raiden]my english bad )23:29
simplewyofel: can you help me with quilt?23:30
yofelsimplew: read http://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt ? (the .quiltrc part isn't really important though)23:31
simplewyofel: what i just need to know for now is that i need to drop a few patches, so i was told to remove them from the series file, but then i dont know what to do23:33
yofelsimplew: you can comment them out by prepending # to the lines23:33
yofelthe series file is ./debian/patches/series for packages23:33
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simplewyofel: and then i need to run quilt?23:35
yofelfirst make sure that you run 'export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches' (just put that in your .bashrc for the future)23:36
yofelthen run 'quilt pop -a'23:36
yofelthen edit the series file23:36
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simplewyofel: quilt pop -a  shows the patches that are in conflict23:44
yofelbecause you probably already edit the series file :/23:45
yofelrevert what you did for now23:45
yofelby default all patches are applied, so you first need to unpatch the source before you can edit the patchset23:45
simplewyofel: but i have used a more updated source, thats why some patches are in conflict23:45
yofeloh, then I fear you'll have to adjust the patches for the new source23:46
yofelwhich has to be done by hand patch for patch23:46
simplewyofel: for now i prefer to drop them23:46
simplewyofel: after i comment the patches, i need to run quilt?23:46
yofelwell, 'quilt push -q' will stop at the first patch that doesn't apply23:47
yofeler23:47
yofelquilt push -a23:47
yofelso run that command, see which patch doesn't apply, remove it from series. Do that until you're done23:47
simplewyofel: doen and now?23:49
yofelif 'quilt push' says that all patches are applied, then you just need to build the package as usual23:50
simplew10 commented patches...23:50
simplewyofel: to buid the  package i just need to run "dpkg-buildpackage", correct?23:51
yofelright23:51
simplewbut in some places i see debuils -us -uc23:51
simplewwhy some say that?23:51
yofelbecause it does the binary upload preperation as well, which isn't much overhead and makes that a more useful answer in general23:52
yofelfor your purpose you won't notice a difference23:53
simplewyofel: quilt said that the patches were all ok, but in build it says theres a patch that doesnt apply....23:53
yofel(except for -us -uc which saves you from the gpg prompt at the end)23:53
yofeloh, is there a patch that applies with fuzz?23:53
yofeldpkg doesn't allow that23:53
simplewyofel:23:55
simplew$ LC_ALL=C quilt push -a23:55
simplewFile series fully applied, ends at patch nm-ipv6-route-cache.patc23:55
yofelrun: 'quilt pop -a', then 'quilt push -a' and check if there's 'fuzz' anywhere in the push output23:56
yofelor just pastebin the debuild output so I see what it actually complains about23:57
simplewyofel: i did and then http://paste.ubuntu.com/132789023:58
yofelsee: "dpkg-source: info: fuzz is not allowed when applying patches"23:58
yofelsimplew: disable quit_dhclient_on_exit.patch in series too, or refresh it23:59
ozzzyanyone have any idea why thunderbird and firefox say that they're already running when ps ax doesn't show them23:59

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