[00:16] <aasd> Is something going on with kubuntu's webpage? www.kubuntu.org
[00:17] <SIR_Taco> aasd: like what exactly?
[00:17] <aasd> the inicial page shows only "OK".
[00:18] <SIR_Taco> aasd: not here
[00:23] <aasd> SIR_Taco: Ok. That is strange, my web browser shows me only the text "OK", however if I execute "lwp-request www.kubuntu.org" on the command line, it shows me the right webpage...
[00:25] <SIR_Taco> aasd: odd
[00:26] <aasd> In addittion to that, rekonq is working fine, however firefox still showing me up only the text "OK"..
[02:45] <JimmyJohnny> I just downloaded KUbuntu 12.10 .ISO and it exceeds a normal CD, can you just burn it to a regular DVD and make it bootable?
[02:46] <xixor> JimmyJohnny: Yes
[02:48] <JimmyJohnny> I figured that was about the only possible thing to do. Not sure what else I could to do to make it bootable. :)
[02:50] <JimmyJohnny> I guess a bd-r would work also but that's overkill
[02:58] <msx> JimmyJohnny: USB boot, PXE boot
[02:59] <junzhu> HI
[03:03] <xerukm> I have a simple question that maybe somebody can help with, how do you manually install plasma themes?
[03:04] <xerukm> i checked around on google, and the few methods ive found don't work
[03:17] <dogweather> xerukm, the app for that is installed by default. Lets you browse and install themes. Is that what you're looking for?
[03:50] <JimmyJohnny> why are the 64-bit ISO images always preceded with AMD, those work for Intel too, dont they?
[04:04] <DarthFrog> JimmyJohnny:  Yes, AMD64 works with Intel CPUs, too.  But the 64-bit instruction set was developed by AMD and licensed by Intel.  Naturally enough, Intel doesn't want to give AMD any credit so they call it x86-64.  But it's AMD's baby as Intel went with Itanium.
[04:06] <JimmyJohnny> interesting, i never knew that, thanks.
[04:08] <JimmyJohnny> im surprised Intel still uses anything developed by AMD considering AMD is losing the CPU wars right now
[04:09] <dniMretsaM> quick question. how do I hide the "Desktop" button on my second monitor? I know I've done it before, but I can't figure it you again
[04:10] <JimmyJohnny> you=out
[04:11] <JimmyJohnny> making my bootable usf flash drive to try out kubuntu 12.10
[04:12] <JimmyJohnny> usf=usb
[04:16] <svspl> why there is no kubuntu-12.04.1-dvd-i386.iso? cd version is updated but dvd not
[06:09] <BinaryCortex> help
[06:09] <BinaryCortex> i have kubuntu installed via wubi
[06:09] <BinaryCortex> but it doesnt see the onboard wifi card
[06:10] <BinaryCortex> how do i tell it to look again
[06:43] <BinaryCortex> helooooooooooooo
[06:43] <BinaryCortex> is anyone awake
[06:46] <BinaryCortex> never mind
[06:46] <BinaryCortex> i got it
[06:47] <BinaryCortex> additional drivers needed to be run twice
[06:47] <BinaryCortex> once to download, and again to search
[06:47] <BinaryCortex> no clue why
[07:08] <noaXess> morning
[07:08] <noaXess> does anybody also have issues with firefox latest on 12.10? if i start it, it uses a lot of cpu, w/o doing anything
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:34] <sasori> back on kde, havent been back in years.  unity...... anyways.  i have a few questions, 1, why does minimize make the windows disappear to no where and not the task bar, 2, how do i fix the task bar??
[14:37] <BluesKaj> sasori, click on the cashew "panel tool box" icon on the right of the panel , choose add widgets , then type taskbar in the search
[14:38] <sasori> o woah............. weird............ i added a default panal, and its my original panel, overlayed on some other random panel, that is very weird
[14:39] <sasori> lol.... so dragged it down, deleted other one, problem solved
[14:39] <sasori> thanks for the tip though
[14:40] <sasori> btw, kde is AWESOME!  i havent been on here since 4.10
[14:42] <BluesKaj> hehyeah , didn't realize how good til I tried unity and gnome again just to check it out
[14:46] <buzz_> some maintenance on kubuntu.org or an accident ? http://www.kubuntu.org/ the download page etc is still working but
[14:49] <tsimpson> buzz_: what's not working?
[14:50] <buzz_> strange. checking as its returning something strange on my browser. but not on wget
[14:50] <BluesKaj> buzz_, dunno , but it looks fishy because there's no explanation.
[14:51] <buzz_> on firefox its just giving me "OK" no html etc. on wget/chromium i get the page/site
[14:53] <mad-leigh> hi is there a site that can help guide me ... wants chronix radio installed in radio tray or my media player
[14:53] <tsimpson> buzz_: works for me in FF 16.0.2
[14:54] <buzz_> something weird going on. could be my system. http://www.kubuntu.org/index.php shows correctly and http://www.kubuntu.org/ doesnt. im going to clear cache etc
[15:00] <buzz_> hmm and now it just decided to work again. oh well. ;-)
[15:31] <sasori> sorry, another question.  trying to setup external moniotr as primary, with laptop off, and lid shut.  how do i set vga as primary???
[15:33] <BluesKaj> sasori, which graphics card?
[15:34] <sasori> blues asus u30sd, geforce gt520M
[15:35] <BluesKaj> ok sasori have you installed the nvidia-current driver . if so you should have a settings option in the nvidia settings GUI
[15:36] <sasori> BluesKaj: ahh i see.  i dont think i have that yet.  forst time back on kde in 5-6 years.  and its so awesome.
[15:38] <sasori> BluesKaj: went to additional drivers.  3 options.  "Experimental NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernal module and VDPAU library" and 2 postings of "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernal module and VDPAU library"
[15:39] <sasori> which do you suggest?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> sasori, none of the above , oiprn a terminal , sudo apt-get install nvidia current , then sudo nvidia-xconfig  , then reboot
[15:42] <sasori> BluesKaj:  are you sure man, :
[15:42] <sasori> E: Unable to locate package nvidia
[15:42] <sasori> E: Unable to locate package current
[15:43] <BluesKaj> sorry sasori nvidia-current, I forgot the -
[15:43] <sasori> lol!  ok thanks
[15:43]  * BluesKaj curses the KB ...gotta blame it , I never make mistakes:)
[15:46] <sasori> lol :)  ok reboot time
[15:51] <sasori> BluesKaj: lol, not a success.  i keep running this comand as sudo, and restart.  but no love.  keeps saying this
[15:51] <sasori> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server
[15:51] <sasori> now my resolution is like..... mega big
[15:55] <BluesKaj> sasori, ok , drop to a tty, ctrl+alt+F1, sudo service kdm or lightdm stop, and do, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[15:56] <BluesKaj> ok , I have tpo leave now ..if you have more trouble , I'm sure omeone else can helpr ot you can also join #ubuntu for adviced since this is a graphics driver issue
[15:58] <xixor> you can see if the nvidia module is loaded.  lsmod | grep nvidia
[16:01] <sasori> BluesKaj: cool, thanks mate!
[16:01] <sasori> will give it a go
[16:06] <xixor> when I installed kubuntu and setup my nvidia card, I did that automatic hardware wizard thing in kubuntu, and selected the Nvidia binary driver.  It's the proprietary binary blob that everyone hates because it's not open source, but everyone uses because it's the most stable and best performing
[16:06] <xixor> but I see that it installed nvidia-current, nvidia-settings, and nvidia-common on my system
[16:07] <xixor> After that, I just rebooted, and everything was working
[16:09] <sasori> BluesKaj: neither worked mate.  ldm did show a response, waiting.  and then did the xconfig, restart, no love
[16:53] <thesasori> hey guys, how do i get to use external display as primary, with laptop closed and screen off????
[16:53] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[16:53] <xixor> that is someothing I tried to do with my macbook pro and kubuntu 12.04.... I was never able to satisfactorily achieve this task
[16:54] <thesasori> xixor: crap..............
[16:54] <thesasori> its SO easy in ubu.  not sure why its so overly complicated in kubu
[16:54] <xixor> I'm not saying it's not possible... anything is.  I just couldn't figure it out.  It would work some of the time
[16:54] <xixor> if it's possible in ubuntu, should be doable in kubuntu I think
[16:54] <simplew> yofel_: hi
[16:54] <thesasori> one would think........... but its way different
[16:56] <simplew> remember yesterday i asked it to change the parameter value of a kernel module it would be only needed to modprobe it? well to change the parameter value its needed to first unload the module and then modprobe it with the value we want, else it will not work
[17:19] <tobiasBora> Hello !
[17:19] <tobiasBora> Does anyone know how I could change the opacity of the bottom bar in the oxygen theme ?
[17:20] <tobiasBora> (in the last realease it was more dark and I prefere like this)
[17:55] <bbeck_> tobiasBora: I don't believe you can change the opacity of a theme without editing the svg files of the theme.
[17:56] <tobiasBora> bbeck_: indeed, but when I change the svg file, nothing happened.
[17:56] <tobiasBora> In fact, when I change something in the svg file, I've to change the bar size to actualiser
[17:56] <tobiasBora> is it normal ?
[17:57] <tobiasBora> *actualize ?
[17:57] <bbeck_> tobiasBora: I apologize, I've never modified a theme so I don't really know.
[17:58] <tobiasBora> ok. I did what I want, so I solve my problem. Thanks ! (but if anyone has a way to actualize faster a theme, please tell me !)
[18:04] <harriseldon> tobiasBora - I know a way to manually change it by using a custom panel-background.svgz image. I do not know of a way to manage the opacity from the ui. It is embedded in the theme's version of this svg image.
[18:05] <harriseldon> I did it for my current theme by creating a custom version of this file.
[18:06] <harriseldon> In the settings for the desktop theme, there is a Details tab.
[18:07] <harriseldon> From there you can customize individual elements of the theme. This would also allow you to pick the panel background from a different where the colors match your preference if you did not want to create one on your own.
[18:27] <yofel> simplew: oh right, sorry, I was kinda assuming you were re-loading the module, and not trying to just load it -.-
[18:29] <o3zytest> anyone home.... I'm lost here
[18:30] <o3zytest> noone home
[18:30] <salvatore> ciao
[18:33] <o3zytest> anyone have any ideas on how I fix this thing
[18:36] <o3zytest> nobody here at all.... in all those users
[18:36] <monkeyjuice> ask your question
[18:36] <simplew> yofel: hi
[18:38] <yofel> o3zytest: it would really help if you would tell us what your problem is :)
[18:39] <o3zytest> I just installed 12.10 and can't login to my user.... I can login as guest but that's it
[18:39] <simplew> yofel: i remember you pointed a debain packagement howto, can you tell me the url again
[18:40] <yofel> o3zytest: any error? or does it just tell you the password is wrong?
[18:40] <o3zytest> nope... password is ok... the screen flashes and it's back to the login
[18:40] <o3zytest> I see the X cursor momentarily
[18:42] <salvatore> !list
[18:42] <yofel> ouch
[18:43] <o3zytest> I can ctrl-alt-f1 and login... but I can't do anything
[18:43] <yofel> simplew: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ - and someone else pointed me to this, which is a good overview: git.debian.org/?p=users/lucas/packaging-tutorial.git;a=blob_plain;f=packaging-tutorial.pdf;hb=refs/heads/pdf
[18:43] <o3zytest> ah well... one more thing to try then it'll be back to Mandriva [sigh]
[18:43] <o3zytest> tell DarthFrog I gave it a shot
[18:45] <yofel> simplew: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ to complete the link list
[18:45] <yofel> o3zytest: is there some kind of error in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old ?
[18:45] <simplew> yofel: i just want one that cn be simple and direct and can say what to do in ubuntu
[18:45] <testor> who can tell... I can't get there from a guest account
[18:46] <o3zytest> ah well... if I can't fix this it's back to mandriva.... ttfn
[18:46] <yofel> ...
[18:47] <simplew> yofel: weird, theres any pdf reader isntaleld by default in kubuntu...
[18:47] <yofel> simplew: okular
[18:48] <simplew> firefox pointed krita to open the pdf...
[18:48] <yofel> o.O
[18:48] <yofel> file a bug against krite about wrong mime type settings I guess -.-
[18:48] <yofel> *krita
[18:49] <yofel> simplew: wait, did that happen in a fresh install?
[18:50] <simplew> yofel: its a fresh install
[18:50] <yofel> not good...
[18:50] <simplew> yofel: and okular is installed
[18:50] <yofel> I'll note it down and check that later
[18:52] <yofel> simplew: btw. - when you mean simple guide: to do what? Package modification, build, new package, applying patches, tool setup, archive layout explenation, ...
[18:54] <simplew> yofel: i have installed cinnamon that triggers nautilus install, now fireofx runs  nautlius as default filemanager, how can i change that?
[18:55] <yofel> firefox settings maybe? IIRC mozilla software have their own default settings for such things
[19:01] <simplew> yofel: solution:   Edit /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache change x-directory/gnome-default-handler=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop to x-directory/gnome-default-handler=kde4-dolphin.desktop
[19:02] <yofel> :/
[19:02] <goga> hi huys. can anyone tell me, kde developers chat room???
[19:03] <yofel> goga: work related #kde-devel
[19:03] <goga> thanks.
[19:09] <simplew> yofel: in /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache krita is set as the default pdf viewer:    application/pdf=kde4-krita_pdf.desktop;kde4-okularApplication_pdf.desktop;
[19:09] <yofel> /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache is a generated file I believe, so something is wrong elsewhere
[19:31] <dougl> anyone awake in here? DISPLAY 0:xbmc ?
[19:34] <dougl> how do I start an application on my secondary display?
[19:45] <ozzzy> so... how do things in kubuntu work.... there doesnt' seem to be a superuser password
[19:49] <dougl> same ozzzy ?
[19:49] <dougl> dvd copy?
[19:49] <ozzzy> same ozzzy
[19:49] <dougl> lol cool
[19:49] <ozzzy> yep... dvd copy
[19:49] <ozzzy> I installed 12.10 and it was a huge mess
[19:49] <dougl> sudo su - then make passwd
[19:49] <dougl> same
[19:50] <dougl> 12.10 is the install from hell... but is nice and stable
[19:50] <ozzzy> ok... I think I have to nuke my .kde4 dir
[19:50] <dougl> I used my kde config from 12.04
[19:50] <ozzzy> I'm coming from mandriva 2010.2
[19:51] <dougl> wow - dunno there
[19:51] <ozzzy> I had issues with booting too....
[19:51] <dougl> been ubuntu for years now
[19:51] <ozzzy> a few times I had to boot the dvd and select 'boot from first hd'
[19:51] <dougl> mix of ide and sata?
[19:51] <ozzzy> nope
[19:51] <ozzzy> all sata
[19:51] <dougl> hmmm
[19:51] <ozzzy> lemme try this again... I have nothing but time =)
[19:52] <ozzzy> so... sudo -
[19:52] <dougl> either way I did 2 machines 12.10 and both had issues
[19:52] <dougl> sudo su -
[19:52] <ozzzy> hmmm
[19:52] <dougl> and your user pass
[19:52] <ozzzy> so.... which is the most stable
[19:52] <dougl> then passwd
[19:52] <dougl> as root
[19:52] <dougl> 12/10
[19:52] <ozzzy> you've lost me
[19:52] <dougl> .
[19:53] <ozzzy> ahhh... su -... then enter user pass... then run passwd?
[19:53] <dougl> right
[19:53] <ozzzy> ok
[19:53] <ozzzy> bbiab... maybe LOL
[19:53] <dougl> the ubuntu way
[19:53] <dougl> later
[19:53] <ibm_> #
[19:58] <dougl> how do I start xbmc on my secondary display in my nvidia/twinview config in kde on my kubuntu 12.10 installation?
[20:36] <[Raiden]> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LinusTorvalds/posts/DbmEE8kXLDA
[21:19] <brijesh> hello world :-)
[21:21] <lordievader> Hey brijesh how are you this fine evening?
[21:31] <heinkel_111> is there  a DVD version of 12.10 to be downloaded somewhere?
[21:31] <brijesh> great
[21:31] <heinkel_111> or is only CD version now?
[21:32] <brijesh> @heinkel i am haveing it right now in my pen drive
[21:32] <lordievader> heinkel_111: Isn't it the other way around? DVD being the only option: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block
[21:32] <brijesh> if u guide me , then i can transfer it to you
[21:34] <heinkel_111> lordievader: i am a bit puzzled by what seems like misleading information concering the bittorrent links in that case
[21:34] <heinkel_111> it says  Desktop CD, 64bit
[21:35] <lordievader> heinkel_111: I see now, that is confusing indeed. The regular download is 900mb and I think the torrent is the same size.
[21:35] <tsimpson> heinkel_111: there is now one image, it's larger than a CD so you can call it a DVD image if you want
[21:36] <tsimpson> there's no longer a separation of live-cd/alternate-cd/dvd, just the one ISO
[21:36] <lordievader> tsimpson: He has a point, the site says CD. Tad bit confusing, perhaps someone should edit it.
[21:36] <heinkel_111> ok so it is only one kind of image file, regardless of where you  intend to burn it
[21:36] <tsimpson> lordievader: poke someone in #kubuntu-devel if anyone's back from UDS yet
[21:37] <brijesh> how to run a java code in linux ?
[21:37] <tsimpson> by running it in java
[21:37] <heinkel_111> with java
[21:37] <tsimpson> !java
[21:38] <heinkel_111> brijesh: dont be insulted, i am just spilling all my competence in that field
[21:40] <heinkel_111> anyone seen a "what is new" summary for 12.10 posted somewhere?
[21:44] <simplew> yofel: can restart network-manager service and tell me if you get doubled wifi network entries from network manager icon in plasma panel?
[21:46] <dougl> what happened to nvidia-setting being able to configure 2 seperate x sessions?
[21:46] <yofel> simplew: yes
[21:47] <simplew> yofel: and you restart again? what appears?
[21:48] <yofel> added another one to the tooltip, but the number in the widget menu is the same
[21:49] <simplew> yofel: im understanding what you say
[21:49] <simplew> yofel: im not understanding what you say
[21:50] <yofel> simplew: I do get doubled entries, but only once
[21:50] <yofel> it doesn't just increase the number every time (it does in the tooltip though)
[21:50] <simplew> yofel: so when you restarted the service for the 3 time you got one entry for wifi like expected?
[21:50] <yofel> I had 2
[21:50] <yofel> the tooltip had 3
[21:51] <yofel> both should've had 1
[21:51] <simplew> if restart for the 4 time i loose all wifi networks and stay only with my own
[21:54] <simplew> yofel: whats the ml of ubuntu devel?
[21:58] <yofel> ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com (don't ask there about this problem though. Network Manager does what it should)
[21:58] <yofel> the list might be subscriber-only btw.
[22:20] <brijesh> how to get Nvidia Gpu driver in Kubuntu 12.10 .. any openioun
[22:28] <[Raiden]> brijesh: sudo apt-get install  nvidia-current nvidia -settings ; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:28] <[Raiden]> nvidia-settings
[22:31] <brijesh> let me try -_-
[22:38] <brijesh>  what is this error in java coading "hello world "---> { <identifier> expected }
[22:44] <brijesh> done
[23:06] <dougl> anyone know of a codec for kubuntu to play mkv video and audio?
[23:07] <DarthFrog> dougl: I didn't have to install anything special .  MKV, MP4 just worked.
[23:09] <dougl> DarthFrog, hmmm... not sure what is going on here then - thanks
[23:14] <DarthFrog> dougl: I installed xine and mplayer, the codecs might have been brought along with them.
[23:14] <[Raiden]> dougl: try smplayer\mplayer2 or vlc
[23:18] <genii-around> vlc ❤
[23:26] <jono> hey all
[23:27] <jono> I just installed and ran kubuntu-desktop in a normal Ubuntu 12.10 installation and then when I boot back into Unity my GTK apps look like KDE apps
[23:27] <jono> hows do I switch this off?
[23:29] <[Raiden]> jono: may be install gnome-tweak-tool and change theme.  оr run systemsettings (kde)  and change gtk theme/
[23:29] <[Raiden]> .
[23:29] <[Raiden]> my english bad )
[23:30] <simplew> yofel: can you help me with quilt?
[23:31] <yofel> simplew: read http://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt ? (the .quiltrc part isn't really important though)
[23:33] <simplew> yofel: what i just need to know for now is that i need to drop a few patches, so i was told to remove them from the series file, but then i dont know what to do
[23:33] <yofel> simplew: you can comment them out by prepending # to the lines
[23:33] <yofel> the series file is ./debian/patches/series for packages
[23:35] <simplew> yofel: and then i need to run quilt?
[23:36] <yofel> first make sure that you run 'export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches' (just put that in your .bashrc for the future)
[23:36] <yofel> then run 'quilt pop -a'
[23:36] <yofel> then edit the series file
[23:44] <simplew> yofel: quilt pop -a  shows the patches that are in conflict
[23:45] <yofel> because you probably already edit the series file :/
[23:45] <yofel> revert what you did for now
[23:45] <yofel> by default all patches are applied, so you first need to unpatch the source before you can edit the patchset
[23:45] <simplew> yofel: but i have used a more updated source, thats why some patches are in conflict
[23:46] <yofel> oh, then I fear you'll have to adjust the patches for the new source
[23:46] <yofel> which has to be done by hand patch for patch
[23:46] <simplew> yofel: for now i prefer to drop them
[23:46] <simplew> yofel: after i comment the patches, i need to run quilt?
[23:47] <yofel> well, 'quilt push -q' will stop at the first patch that doesn't apply
[23:47] <yofel> er
[23:47] <yofel> quilt push -a
[23:47] <yofel> so run that command, see which patch doesn't apply, remove it from series. Do that until you're done
[23:49] <simplew> yofel: doen and now?
[23:50] <yofel> if 'quilt push' says that all patches are applied, then you just need to build the package as usual
[23:50] <simplew> 10 commented patches...
[23:51] <simplew> yofel: to buid the  package i just need to run "dpkg-buildpackage", correct?
[23:51] <yofel> right
[23:51] <simplew> but in some places i see debuils -us -uc
[23:51] <simplew> why some say that?
[23:52] <yofel> because it does the binary upload preperation as well, which isn't much overhead and makes that a more useful answer in general
[23:53] <yofel> for your purpose you won't notice a difference
[23:53] <simplew> yofel: quilt said that the patches were all ok, but in build it says theres a patch that doesnt apply....
[23:53] <yofel> (except for -us -uc which saves you from the gpg prompt at the end)
[23:53] <yofel> oh, is there a patch that applies with fuzz?
[23:53] <yofel> dpkg doesn't allow that
[23:55] <simplew> yofel:
[23:55] <simplew> $ LC_ALL=C quilt push -a
[23:55] <simplew> File series fully applied, ends at patch nm-ipv6-route-cache.patc
[23:56] <yofel> run: 'quilt pop -a', then 'quilt push -a' and check if there's 'fuzz' anywhere in the push output
[23:57] <yofel> or just pastebin the debuild output so I see what it actually complains about
[23:58] <simplew> yofel: i did and then http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327890
[23:58] <yofel> see: "dpkg-source: info: fuzz is not allowed when applying patches"
[23:59] <yofel> simplew: disable quit_dhclient_on_exit.patch in series too, or refresh it
[23:59] <ozzzy> anyone have any idea why thunderbird and firefox say that they're already running when ps ax doesn't show them