=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [05:01] morning all [05:17] Morning Kilos [05:17] http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/17111_368793369875251_973398877_n.jpg [05:21] hehe [06:04] morning Kilos, Trixar_za [06:04] hiya superfly [06:04] Morning superfly [06:05] Look at what I sneaked into the SliTaz repository: [06:05] http://hg.slitaz.org/wok/file/e9c766b0df51/alsa-lib/stuff/asound.conf [06:18] morning [06:20] Morning Squirm [06:22] * Squirm eyes Trixar_za [06:27] hi Squirm [06:27] hi kodez [06:28] uncle Kilos [06:28] how are you? === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [06:32] morning kodez, SmilyBorg [06:32] morning [06:33] good ty kodez morning SmilyBorg [06:38] morning uncle superfly [06:39] how are you? [06:42] lol [06:42] lol [06:42] you well kode? [06:43] ai he ran [06:44] the fly hacked him off the air [07:15] uncle superfly?! [07:18] Hello oom superfly [07:18] hehehe [07:19] lol [07:21] morning all [07:21] hi Superhuman [07:37] Nice and cold weather in Pta today...hopefully it is warmer by Sunday [07:39] Trixar_za: eish, I'm not that old... we call oom Kilos "oom" for a reason :-P [07:39] ohi Superhuman, and congrats! [07:39] K, grandpa superfly [07:39] :P [07:39] Thanks! [07:39] rofl [07:39] dont tell magtie superfly [07:40] congrats on what Superhuman [07:40] Trixar_za: if you call him a grandpa, then half the people here are ancient [07:41] Kilos: wife is expecting, and it's a girl. (found out about the girl part yesterday) [07:42] wow lovely that really deserves congrats [07:42] * superfly has 2 boys, and even the wife has agreed that is enough for now [07:42] Isn't there like an 29 year old grandfather in Britain? [07:43] I'm nearly 28, so I'm closing in on that [07:43] see inetpro thats what a community channel is all about [07:43] lol [07:43] sharing [07:43] you old hey Trixar_za [07:43] close to ian [07:43] Congrats Superhuman [07:44] I'm young in my heart [07:44] lol [07:45] I remember helping out in an computer class with 7 years in it [07:45] It wasn't lost on me that, at 23, I was more than 3 times their age [07:45] morning all [07:46] hiya magespawn welcome to ubuntu-za community channel [07:46] that makes me feel a over the top [07:46] * Kilos just digging at the pro [07:46] Kilos is that a standard greeting? [07:47] lol [07:47] no man the pro messed on me for asking about winsucks stuff here [07:48] as in This is not a windows support channel [07:48] sorry Windows [07:49] TazBot: Windows 8 [07:49] * TazBot slaps Trixar_za [07:49] Use a real operating system like SliTaz instead of that bloat X( [07:49] hmm [07:49] Just though I'd share that [07:49] :p [07:49] lol [07:49] thought* [07:51] hi jrgns [07:51] your bot clever Trixar_za [07:51] got some class [07:52] i fancy the slap part [07:52] will teach maaz that [07:52] https://github.com/Trixarian/TazBot [07:52] It's pretty limited considering [07:52] not a pybot [07:53] cant you use ibid on your slit/something os [07:54] SliTaz and no. I could probably use nimrod, but I'm kind of lazy [07:54] :P [07:55] In case you don't know what nimrod is: http://nimrod-code.org/ [07:58] oh well maybe one day well get you too ubuntu and debian and python [07:59] work well for lazy peeps [08:00] inetpro, good morning sleepy head [08:00] I probably never will got back to Ubuntu :P [08:00] aw [08:00] Too invested in SliTaz by now anyway - dev access and everything [08:01] oh well we still accept you here [08:01] Kilos: do we? [08:01] just dont come say you doing dev stuff for winsucks [08:02] ya WE have to because he has helped me [08:02] dont forget your banweed inetpro [08:02] i feel tainted [08:02] and benatter [08:03] * Kilos lol @ Squirm [08:03] been trying to install Windows Server 2012 on HyperV server [08:03] * Squirm shivers at the thought [08:03] eina [08:04] BLOOD TRAITOR [08:04] other pc here dual boots xp and unity. xp rather sick so thought id reinstall. it cant see any hard drives [08:04] :P [08:04] But yeah. Good luck with that and it's new MetroUI [08:04] I know, I went to an IT Camp, they showcased Server 2012 [08:05] lol [08:05] Speaking of which [08:05] we're running 2003, so in any case, time for an upgrade [08:05] BTW, good morning everyone [08:06] Trixar_za, forgive Squirm he is still young [08:06] hello inetpro :) [08:06] You know this whole interface thing? I saw an 11 year old kid do something similar 11 years ago and wrote it in Delphi. [08:06] rather cool in Pretoria today [08:06] You decide if that's a good thing or not [08:06] Kilos: If I had my way, I'd be running RH/CentOS [08:06] That an 11 year old had the same idea... [08:06] hiya inetpro ty for coming in. i bed you read my comments but refrained from making comments [08:06] Trixar_za: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/quick-news/63678-microsoft-sued-over-windows-8-interface.html [08:06] (He's probably 22 by now) [08:06] oh damn [08:06] super De Ja Vu [08:07] * Squirm leaves for a bit [08:07] Kilos: it's working time now :-) [08:07] sigh [08:07] that starts at 4pm for you [08:07] hmm... I must be getting old [08:07] i may be stupid but im not a fool [08:08] i love this channel [08:09] getting? [08:09] maybe I should become an MS evangelist [08:09] eish [08:09] Squirm: eish! [08:09] Squirm: I'll disown you [08:09] and then go around preaching how awesomly bad windows is [08:10] hehe [08:10] and how it crashes the whole time [08:10] show linux distro's at meets [08:10] I might be lynched [08:10] on stage [08:10] billy will sue you [08:10] he needs money [08:11] Mind you [08:11] I think Software Patents are worse than Microsoft [08:11] Interesting fact: There is somebody in South Africa that owns the South African patent for the Taskbar [08:12] hmmm, I have a feeling that it's a bad idea(it is already though) to install Server 2012 before SP1 is released [08:12] It's nice to see our Patent office doing a prior art check [08:12] Trixar_za: you know, HyperV server is the first piece I've seen from MS that's FREE [08:12] albeit, not opensource [08:12] but free [08:13] wait till it stabilised to 2 crashes a day Squirm [08:13] s\piece\OS [08:13] Well, I've seen others. All Free Not Open Source though [08:13] FNOS [08:13] Hehehe [08:13] I just made up another word [08:13] Kilos: then I'll convince my boss to run Xen on CentOS and run 2012 on top of that [08:13] Trixar_za: Acronym [08:14] not word [08:14] NAN [08:14] The irony of that [08:14] Not Anaother Name? [08:14] Not An Acronym [08:14] NAA [08:14] nuvolari, and them use centos [08:15] oops [08:15] NAA [08:15] Kilos: RedHat = CentOS [08:15] and I, technically, am a RHCSA [08:15] :P [08:15] I mean, CentOS = RedHat [08:15] oh ya i member you passed [08:15] Trixar_za: SliTaz is really small [08:15] magespawn: it does that to everyone at first [08:15] onlu going to take like 15 min to get it [08:16] magespawn: One of the reasons why I chose it [08:16] please don't take my comment in a dirty way, not intended [08:16] sorry Squirm? [08:16] don't worry [08:17] okay cool np [08:17] I'm just talkative [08:17] Trixar_za: did you read that mybb post I pasted [08:17] mybb? [08:17] mybroadband [08:17] that is seriously ironic [08:17] [10:06:46] .:Squirm:. Trixar_za: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/quick-news/63678-microsoft-sued-over-windows-8-interface.html [08:17] Nah, kind of crashed Firefox - I have too many tabs open [08:17] lol [08:18] would be even funnier if it happened to apple [08:18] the word 'Tiles' and it's description, have already been patented [08:18] and the description fits Windows 8's tiles [08:19] Also you have prior art of it too [08:19] Just another money grubbing bastard [08:19] This is why I hate software patents [08:20] You shouldn't be able to patent ideas or concepts. Only methodology... i.e. HOW you make something and the steps involved [08:24] and I lol'd when I saw the new iPad Mini is using Samsung's display tech [08:25] I thought I read somewhere that Samsung makes Apple screens [08:28] good morning [08:28] Maaz: coffee on [08:28] * Maaz puts the kettle on [08:28] hi charlvn [08:28] Maaz, coffee please [08:28] Kilos: Okay [08:28] wb Symmetria [08:29] hi Kilos [08:29] i have been playing with this the other day: http://www.android-x86.org/ [08:29] magespawn: they do, was also on mybb [08:30] hell Symmetria [08:30] s/hell/hello [08:30] i just ran it inside a virtual machine, got it to boot no problem, just getting it to connect to the virtual network device was a problem [08:30] seems like android only wants to connect to wifi :) [08:30] maybe there is nothing there to support the hardware charlvn [08:31] magespawn: well it's running inside a virtual machine so it should be able to use the standard ethernet-like virtual network interface [08:31] magespawn: but because it's android, it's not looking for a standard ethernet interface ;) [08:31] magespawn: it's only looking for wifi/umts/etc [08:32] Coffee's ready for charlvn and Kilos! [08:33] Maaz, ty [08:33] You are welcome Kilos [08:33] yo tonberry352_ wb [08:33] Maaz: thanks [08:33] charlvn: No problem [08:37] in the meantime, i'm playing with solaris 11 - good to see it finally has a package manager built in :) [08:37] i'm running it inside vmware but can't install the drivers - http://slexy.org/view/s20EvNZw8S [08:41] it looks pretty decent though compared to previous versions. the standard desktop is based on gnome now: http://i.imgur.com/XdvYR.png http://i.imgur.com/BACiw.png http://i.imgur.com/Uew7z.png [09:15] charlvn: that is very gnome-ish [09:36] wbb. pinching modem [09:42] magespawn: yeah looks almost like a standard linux distro now [09:43] is solaris FOSS? [09:43] uh? [09:44] Free Open Source Software [09:44] * inetpro will be very honest [09:44] honesty is best [09:45] I don't like Oracle and the way they have been handling there so called OSS software [09:45] * smileE17 is trying OpenBSD [09:45] :) [09:45] they way they do it is in no way transparent [09:47] so I am sorry for any Oracle guys here, but /me is moving away from anything Oracle as far as possible [09:47] Cool OpenBSD is working :P [09:47] unfortunately easier said than done [09:47] they have their fingers in many many pies [09:48] simply because they have deep pockets [09:51] Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely [09:51] and that is my primary concern with them === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [10:06] brb :p === smile is now known as Guest17271 === Guest17271 is now known as smile4 [10:43] magespawn: solaris is a proprietary product by oracle; sun microsystems created what was supposed to be an open source spin-off called opensolaris but subsequent to the sun buy-out, oracle discontinued the project [10:45] inetpro: imho oracle has displayed enough hostility to the open source community and their "aggressive" business practises are unlikely to ease up, so i tred carefully as well [10:47] inetpro: strangely enough, oracle did have a stand at oscon 2010 and i even spoke to some of their people (they walked around to meet the people behind all the other stands) [10:48] hi Kilos === smile4 is now known as smile4eet [11:22] good thinking, i need lunch too [12:31] oh my goodness, just found this on reddit: http://i.imgur.com/71Din.jpg [12:32] hahahahha [12:32] quality education <3 [12:33] http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/12idze/south_african_census_2011_2176/ [12:35] '-' [12:37] glad to know my UNISA degree will be worth so much [12:37] =_=v [12:40] 2 weeks until Cantide meets Gangnam Style :) :) :) :) [12:49] Cantide: how so? you meeting psy? [12:51] charlvn: Oracle has a lot of good people working for them, it's a massive ship [12:52] unfortunately I don't think they are all steering in the same direction [12:52] like many big corporates [12:53] at some point these corporates become unmanageable [12:53] but that is just my humble opinion [12:56] charlvn, I just meant until i go to Korea '-' [12:57] I meant it metaphorically >.< [13:10] whew you guys dont attract new customers do you [13:10] bad advertising [13:17] Cantide: ah i see :) but that sounds like fun though, keep in touch! [13:18] inetpro: yeah but i think (as you also hinted) that is not a uniquely oracle problem, that is a problem with all big companies, including companies like google [13:19] inetpro: but oracle is well-known for having an "aggressive" business attitude, more so than most other big ict corporates [13:19] Kilos: how so? :) [13:19] charlvn: true [13:19] only 31 nicks showing [13:19] Kilos: lol [13:19] Kilos: how many are there normally? i don't ever see the list because i (mostly) use irssi [13:19] and 8 are grayed out [13:20] greyed out... not sure what that would mean [13:20] charlvn: irssi doesn't show the nicks? [13:20] i think best we ever had was 45 [13:20] that was inna flame war situation [13:20] inetpro: not normally, it might be an option, never looked into it actually [13:20] and meeting nights [13:21] inetpro: here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/3tQCY.png [13:21] Kilos: a flame war situation? that attracts people? lol [13:22] why does that look like Windows 7? 'o' [13:22] Cantide, howd the exam go? [13:22] Kilos, not bad!! I had two hours but only used one :) [13:22] Cantide: it looks like windows because it's putty running on win7 :P [13:22] lol you must check how everyone pops in to see who wins [13:22] :-S [13:22] turncoat~ [13:22] yo hibana long time no see [13:22] 15:22:35 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu-za: Total of 32 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 31 normal] [13:23] charlvn: just before that line it lists the nicks when you enter the channel [13:23] hibana: yes, when you enter the channel :P [13:24] xchat better so there [13:24] i see you all and some with ip's too [13:24] and hosts [13:25] irssi is for peeps without tastebuds [13:25] i also like xchat :) [13:25] it felt quite simple when i switched from mirc, but now i really like it [13:25] Kilos: platform wars i see... :P [13:25] xchat really rocks [13:25] better than quassel too [13:25] * Kilos ducks [13:25] charlvn: /n [13:26] inetpro: ?? [13:26] or /names [13:26] oh to see the nicks - nice [13:26] Lists the users in the current channel [13:26] yup, i got it here, cool [13:26] inetpro, jou gif [13:27] ok, got work to do, ttyl :) [13:27] good man [13:28] so Cantide good news if it went that well i hope [13:29] yeah [13:29] yesterday's was tough though [13:29] but i think i passed them both - certainly today's! [13:29] hmm [13:31] * hibana waves to the crouds o/ [13:31] bye [13:31] aw [13:31] toods hibanananana [14:15] Kilos: sflr is still alive at least [14:16] he just tweeted earlier: #1time airlines became #onceuponatime [14:16] yay [14:16] hi tante magtie [14:16] lol [14:16] tweet him he is in trouble here inetpro [14:20] Kilos: you go tweet him [14:20] i dont follow him man [14:20] grrr [14:20] will mail him again [14:21] but he is a loss weekends anyway [14:21] hoi koiosify [14:21] hallo \o [14:21] \o/ [14:21] wb Kerbero [14:22] bouncer issues on our side [14:22] :) [14:22] :D [14:22] but bakuman fixed it [14:22] yo bakuman where you guys been that you all come in together like this [14:22] ah [14:23] changed our connection to kornbluth.freenode.net [14:47] ah you all in different places together [15:25] sorry for the in-out guys , setting up my settings on the new install [15:25] np [15:25] I forgive you mazal [15:25] :( [15:25] lol [15:26] now he will never know [15:26] hahaha [15:26] i see someone is using Afrihost [15:27] where you see that [15:27] your quassel very clever [15:27] Kilos: his hostname [15:27] At least I'm guessing so [15:27] mtnbusiness? [15:28] Ya, new network set up for Afrihost (and Axxess) [15:28] ah [15:35] Sjoe , ok I think I am finished [15:35] No gotta backup everything :P [15:36] mazal: did you get my message? [15:36] Uhm , is that the message maaz left ? [15:36] Yes [15:36] I did yes , but idiot me didn't write down the name [15:36] Kilos: I'm on the same network at home... [15:37] Maaz: dns home.snyman.info [15:37] superfly: Records: 105.236.70.19 [15:37] Would you mind giving that name again please superfly [15:38] Maaz: I'm on my phone, I can't remember what the message was about [15:38] superfly: One learns a new thing every day [15:38] ag [15:38] mazal: see above [15:39] The app for pics edit [15:39] oh right. There's showfoto, though that's a KDE app [15:40] I think shotwell might have some basic editing capabilities [15:40] What's the default on Ubuntu these days? [15:41] Can't recall the name now , but it can only view [15:41] Can't cut , copy , paste , crop etc. [15:41] I think there's a newish basic editing app for Gnome [15:41] * superfly needs to go [15:42] Yoh I got a big surprise now. None of my backups working , failing on target. Then I saw that now all media is mounted under an extra folder (username) lol [15:42] Have to edit all backups now :P [15:48] lol [15:48] shotwell [15:48] then gimp works good too [15:49] Ok l8tr all , lemme iso this thing [16:00] naand tante magtie [16:02] Hi Kilos & Everyone [16:02] did you have a good day? [16:03] Fridays always good - especially after 04 [16:03] hehe [16:04] whew mazal complaining superfly and his pc faster than mine [16:05] you will see the mail when you get home [16:10] speaking of which I am off home, later all [16:10] later magespawn [16:12] wbb now now [17:24] evening peeps [17:25] when is the conference over tumbleweed ? [17:26] inetpro, ping [17:27] hi smileE17 [17:28] hi KilosK :p [17:28] :) [17:28] o.O === Cantide is now known as CanAFK [17:37] KilosK: UDS - Ubuntu Developer Summit [17:37] ya that thing [17:37] does it go on next week too [17:38] superfly, what can be mazals prob. everyone says 12.10 is faster than 12.04 but he says inna mail its slower [17:39] KilosK: I don't know, I haven't read his mail [17:39]