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Razer_Windows 7 has something called, "Stereo Mix" which allows recording of sound output (before speakers). Does Ubuntu have an equivalent to this?00:00
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rajhow can I update a package?00:05
wilee-nileeraj, Beyond what is in the repo?00:05
rajno, to the latest repo version00:05
rajmy current node.js version is 0.5.500:05
rajI want the latest 0.8.x00:05
[twisti]ok, yeah, theres definitely something wrong with this package, its just a server module that responds via http, this should not require x11 and sound drivers to be installed00:06
wilee-nileeraj, is this not offered in the release you are running, and are you sure this version is in the repo?00:06
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[twisti]so is there any way i can get help with that or report a bug or something ? or am i just screwed and doomed to skip the package and do a manual install ?00:06
wilee-nileeraj,If it is the repo a standard update would be all you need.00:07
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wilee-nileeis in*00:07
rajhow do you do that?00:07
rajoh no, I don't have the package manger version00:07
raji just looked it up in synaptic00:07
rajthat is ollllddddd!00:07
wilee-nileeraj, In the terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade00:07
Razer_Windows 7 has something called, "Stereo Mix" which allows recording of sound output (before speakers). Does Ubuntu have an equivalent to this? How can I record sound output?00:08
jrib[twisti]: what are you actually doing exactly?00:09
rajwilee-nilee, I probably don't have the package manager version00:09
rajsince mine is even newer00:09
rajnm00:09
[twisti]jrib: i wrote "sudo apt-get install jenkins"00:09
[twisti]which i expected to result in the download and installation of jenkins, not x11 and pulse00:10
mmgc84Razer_, audacity is an option! very good if you ask for my opinion00:10
[twisti]but i aborted when i saw the page filling list00:10
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jrib[twisti]: try without installing recommends00:10
cowsquadhey friends, Is anybody experiencing white menus when you guys right click on the desktop, or on the little settings icon on the right top corner?00:10
Razer_mmgc84: I have Audacity, but I can only record microphone input. I'm trying to figure out how to record the sound output, similar to "Stereo Mix" in Windows 7.00:10
[twisti]oh, recommends is another page, thats just the requireds00:10
jrib[twisti]: what?00:11
[twisti]suggested is a 2nd page of stuff00:11
blackshirtyou can disable option to apt to not install recommended packages00:11
[twisti]or am i missunderstanding you ?00:11
kostkonRazer_, you need to install pavucontrol00:11
jrib[twisti]: apt-get will install recommended packages by default, try passing --no-install-recommends (or whatever the option is; see apt-get's man page)00:12
kostkonRazer_, then start recording in audacity, then open pavucontrol and you should see audacity listed in the recording tab. select the monitor of your soundcard as the source device00:12
[twisti]oh, 1 sec00:12
[twisti]still 50 different things00:12
jrib[twisti]: and?00:12
Razer_kostkon: okay, will do. Thanks for the help. :)00:12
kostkonRazer_, np00:12
[twisti]that seems a lot for something that usually comes as a single file00:13
dr_willis!info jenkins-cli00:13
ubottujenkins-cli (source: jenkins): Jenkins CI Command Line Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.466.1+dfsg-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 668 kB, installed size 836 kB00:13
[twisti]and i dont see why i would install something like x11-commons00:13
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jrib[twisti]: well the dependencies look like a bunch of java packages00:13
cowsquadanybody?00:13
blackshirtsure00:13
jrib[twisti]: is x11-common still being installed when you pass --no-install-recommends?00:13
dr_willispulling in some sort of gui sounds like.00:13
[twisti]yes00:13
blackshirt!ask | cowsquads00:14
ubottucowsquads: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:14
[twisti]as well as when i use dr_willis' suggestion with -cli00:14
blackshirt!ask | cowsquad00:14
ubottucowsquad: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:14
dr_willisim just reading up on it at   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/jenkins00:15
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basketballstarsync either ubuntu 1 or dropbox to flashdrive for both windows and linux00:15
cowsquadI did  but no one answered it. I have a white menus on my top right corner panel and on the right click with the mouse. I dont know what happend, they were fine.00:16
blackshirthemm, unity 12.04 cowsquad ?00:16
cowsquadunity 12.1000:16
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jrib[twisti]: I guess you'd have to trace the dependencies yourself to realize why it's being pulled in, but I don't see what's the big deal about installing x11-common00:19
blackshirtcowsquad, i don't know what it is.. I don't have play with unity anymore00:19
ls612Hi. I'm intending to dual-boot win8 and Ubuntu 12.10, and I'd like to have my disk encrypted. My question though is first would this be possible and second if it is which encryption (BitLocker or the Ubuntu setup encryption) should I use?00:19
cowsquadwhat do you have blackshirt?00:19
wilee-nileebasketballstar, with a quick google I see this a portable dropbox for a usb. http://www.petenetlive.com/KB/Article/0000409.htm00:20
blackshirtcowsquad, xfce ....00:20
cowsquadxfce, is it better that unity?00:20
[twisti]jrib: im uneasy about something installing things that it clearly doesnt need, like x11 and sound drivers for a server module that runs automated builds00:21
dr_willistry the differnt desktops and decide for your self which one you like.00:21
[twisti]its not the end of the world, i just dont like it, because its so nonsensical00:21
blackshirtcowsquad, for me yes00:21
jrib[twisti]: it's likely just some capability of the software you don't use/don't know about that requires it00:22
jrib[twisti]: it could also just be something that the jre packages require for whatever reason.  I don't know00:22
cowsquadblackshirt, so that is xubuntu right?00:22
jrib[twisti]: is it pulling in the jre?00:23
[twisti]yes, and for some reason its pulling in BOTH (normal and headless)00:23
Razer_kostkon: How would I go back to recording from the microphone?00:23
blackshirtcowsquad, exactly, not full xubuntu system, i build it from scratch00:24
kostkonRazer_, just change the device from monitor to your mic for example, or any other input you want that is listed in the drop down menu.00:24
jrib[twisti]: do you already have headless installed?00:25
kostkonRazer_, if you leave the recording source to monitor pulseaudio will remember your choice the next time you open audacity, so yeah, if you want to change it back, do it before closing audacity.00:25
[twisti]jrib: yes, but jre7, not 600:26
cowsquadblackshirt, How do I extend a free space on my hard drive using disk utility?00:26
[twisti]of course, i would WANT it to run on 7 anyways00:26
blackshirtcowsquad, thats a different topic ... Maybe better using gparted00:26
willdabeastDoes anyone have some experience with 'Deepin'? I am wondering whether to switch to that as opposed to synaptic and ubuntu software center.00:26
cowsquadokay, thank you blackshirt00:27
Razer_kostkon: so, while recording with Audacity, I have to change it to "Monitor of...", and then it will automatically switch to recording output, and I change it back to the other item in the dropdown to make it record microphone again?00:27
cowsquadblackshirt, im about to try xubuntu desktop out :)00:27
kostkonRazer_, yes, it works in real time, on-the-fly, don't worry, you can change devices any time you want during a recording00:28
blackshirtcowsquad, good lucks guys00:28
Razer_kostkon: Okay, well, it's not recording mic anymore at all, even if I change it to the option that isn't "Monitor of..."00:28
cowsquadthank you :)00:28
kostkonRazer_, hmmm00:29
jrib[twisti]: libjnr-posix-java seems to pull in x11-common, follow that if you want00:29
[twisti]not sure how you mean that00:29
[twisti]'follow that' ?00:29
willdabeastDoes anyone have some experience with 'Deepin'? I am wondering whether to switch to that as opposed to synaptic and ubuntu software center.00:29
Razer_kostkon: the only options are, "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo" and "Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"00:29
jrib[twisti]: you can follow the dependency chain if you are still not sure why libjnr-posix-java should depend on x11-common00:29
blackshirtwilldabeast, deepin ?00:29
[twisti]oh00:30
[twisti]ill have to give it some thought00:30
ActionParsnipwilldabeast: Deepin seems to be it'sown distro00:30
willdabeastactionparsnip is that right?00:30
ActionParsnipwilldabeast: http://www.linuxdeepin.com/   yes00:30
wilee-nileethere is a deepin software center for ubuntu00:30
kostkonRazer_, hmm. for a start, check the volume level of your mic00:30
blackshirtcowsquad, if you have experienced with apt system, you can switch your desktp env easily00:30
jrib[twisti]: actually it's probably just default-jre when that gets pulled in00:31
test359hi00:31
willdabeastactionparsnip well there's also a deepin software center, that's why I asked, some people seem to prefer it.00:31
ActionParsnipwilldabeast: try it is all I can suggest, it won't be supported here00:31
jrib[twisti]: if you can satisfy the dependencies regarding the jre beforehand and not let apt try to pick a jre for you, you might be able to avoid x11-common00:31
kostkonRazer_, you can do it in pavucontrol, just select the input devices tab00:31
Razer_kostkon: Ahh, I found it. In the Input Devices tab, the Microphone was muted.00:31
kostkonRazer_, :P00:31
[twisti]how would i do that ?00:31
ActionParsnipwilldabeast: could ask in #linuxdeepin00:32
[twisti]id rather everything that wants java use 7 anyways00:32
wilee-nileewilldabeast, I would use the cli and apt-fast.00:32
willdabeastActionParsnip, alright thanks.00:32
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jrib[twisti]: well do you have openjdk-7-jre-headless installed?00:32
ekajIs the Xubuntu desktop or Ubuntu LXDE desktop lighter?00:32
willdabeastwilee-nilee, for what?00:32
ActionParsnipwilee-nilee: +1 for apt-fast :)00:32
xxhelp me fix my wireless please00:32
[twisti]yes00:32
ActionParsnipekaj: Lubuntu is slightly lighter00:32
ekajThan both of those?00:33
blackshirtwilee-nilee, apt-fast was not reliable way event it was more faster than standar way00:33
blackshirtEvent00:33
blackshirtEven00:33
wilee-nileewilldabeast, For getting apps, it is faster, but if your looking for a gui you can try deepin.00:33
xxfix my wireless please?00:33
hot_wheelzHi guys00:33
willdabeastwilee-nilee ah alright thanks00:33
wilee-nileeblackshirt, apt=fast is reliable here.00:33
ActionParsnipxx: why not give some details rather than repeat the same pointless phrase00:33
ekajActionParsnip: Lubuntu is lighter than LXDE and Xubuntu?00:34
xxActionParsnip, okay, well my laptop isnt detecting my wireless00:34
ActionParsnipekaj: Lubuntu uses LXDE00:34
ActionParsnipxx: what wifi chip do you use?00:34
blackshirtwilee-nilee, i think apt-was not handle partial install correctly00:34
blackshirtapt-fast was not00:35
ekajOkay, I was asking because it has a Lubuntu minimal and an Ubuntu LXDE desktop choice00:35
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willdabeastAnother problem, there's a program I am uninstalling through ubuntu software center, and it seems to be stuck "applying changes" I've restarted the software center, no changes, any workaround?00:35
wilee-nileeblackshirt, faster not sure really, but I like that it downloads the code, I never do partial installs, so I'm not sure there.00:35
xxActionParsnip,  how can i know\?00:35
ActionParsnipekaj: you can install lxde only if you want. If you want super light just install openbox and use it on it's own (no desktop) for absolute lightness :)00:35
ekajI was wanting a lightweight host to run VMs =p I was going to try the Ubuntu-server approach00:36
ActionParsnipxx: sudo lshw -C network     what is the product line for the wifi?00:36
ekajThanks for your help though00:36
ActionParsnipekaj: install server and you can manage the VMs using the VIC on another system00:37
wabashHas anyone here put XFCE on ubuntu?  How did it go, and are there any things I should watch out for?00:37
[twisti]jrib: was there a follow-up coming for that ?00:37
linuxuz3ranyone knows a good it channel00:37
linuxuz3rit for info tech00:37
bubblehousehello00:37
xxActionParsnip,  where can i copy the response for u ?00:37
bubblehouseI am trying to install lubuntu on hp e-Vectra00:37
linuxuz3rhi bubblehouse00:37
ActionParsnipwabash: works well :)00:37
bubblehousecannot get past boot: as I don't know if there is a specific parameter I need00:38
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ActionParsnipxx: its one line, just write it here00:38
bubblehouseI tried generic IDE settings...00:38
wabashActionParsnip: Nice! I figure you might be someone who did not like Gnome 3 all that much?00:38
bubblehouseI cannot find a previous experience online thus far.. any nelp?00:38
xx  *-network00:38
xx       description: Wireless interface00:38
xx       product: Broadcom Corporation00:38
xx       vendor: Broadcom Corporation00:38
xx       physical id: 000:38
FloodBot1xx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:38
jrib[twisti]: no, just curious.  I'm not interested in tracing the dependencies involved with those jre packages.  But that's likely where all of those dependencies are coming from00:38
xx       bus info: pci@0000:04:00.000:38
ActionParsnip(00:36:13) ActionParsnip: xx: sudo lshw -C network     what is the product line for the wifi?      sound familiar?00:39
bubblehouseno ideas? P3 processor00:39
[twisti]jrib: oh, i thought there was some easy way to make jre7 my default jre like you said00:39
ControllerSYRhello when i open this sorce in ubuntu 12.04 cpwindow.cc: In constructor ‘CPWindow::CPWindow()’: cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: cannot call constructor ‘CPWindow::CWindow’ directly [-fpermissive] cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: for a function-style cast, remove the redundant ‘::CWindow’00:39
wabashActionParsnip: ?00:39
ControllerSYRthe program is lxrad00:39
ActionParsnipbubblehouse: you may want to use Precise so you can use Lubuntu or Xubuntu to avoid the PAE kernel00:39
jrib!multijava | [twisti]00:40
ubottu[twisti]: To set which java version/implementation is to be used as default, use sudo update-java-alternatives00:40
bubblehouseah.. I will look for that00:40
xxActionParsnip,   product: NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe00:40
xx       vendor: Broadcom Corporation00:40
ControllerSYRthis is messege agin : cpwindow.cc: In constructor ‘CPWindow::CPWindow()’: cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: cannot call constructor ‘CPWindow::CWindow’ directly [-fpermissive] cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: for a function-style cast, remove the redundant ‘::CWindow’00:40
bubblehouseburn another CD!00:40
ActionParsnipxx: thats the wired connection. Ethernet is a wired technology00:40
bubblehouseI'll let you know how it goes ActionParsnip. Thanks00:40
ActionParsnipxx: remember when I said the line above ^00:40
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xxActionParsnip,    description: Ethernet interface00:41
xx       product: NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe00:41
xx       vendor: Broadcom Corporation00:41
xxoops00:41
ActionParsnipxx: " what is the product line for the wifi? "    remember that?00:41
xxi keep pasting the wrong thing :/00:41
* wilee-nilee hopes all in the US will vote on tuesday00:41
[twisti]ah, thanks jrib, didnt seem to work for jenkins, maybe its set specifically to jre600:41
ActionParsnipxx: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc00:41
xxActionParsnip,        product: Broadcom Corporation00:41
jrib[twisti]: it won't affect anything regarding dependencies (afaik), it will just make sure various symlinks point to the right version.  So java -> java7 for example00:42
xxActionParsnip,  the output of lsb_release -sc : lucid as in lucid lynx00:42
ActionParsnip!broadcom | xx00:42
ubottuxx: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx00:42
[twisti]ah, yeah, i guess it already did that for me before that00:42
xxty ActionParsnip00:42
ActionParsnipxx: you may want to clean install with Precise. Lucid desktop is EOL in April next year00:43
xxeol?00:43
ActionParsnipxx: dead, no support and no updates00:43
xxreally?! i thought it was the stable version of ubuntu. what is Precise?00:43
willdabeastcan anyone help me? I was installing this program and it has been stuck there for about 30 minutes now, not a big program. Any workaround?00:43
ControllerSYRhow i know about my linux in terminal ( 64 or 32 )00:43
kostkonControllerSYR, uname -r00:44
ActionParsnipxx: Quantal is the current stable release, Precise is also stable and supported until 201700:44
ActionParsnipxx: Precise is Ubuntu 12.0400:44
ControllerSYRit did not tell me what i need00:45
ActionParsnipControllerSYR: uname -m00:45
ControllerSYRi need to know if my linux 64 or 3200:45
kostkonControllerSYR, if it says generic it's 32bit otherwise it's 6400:45
ControllerSYRok00:45
xxwhat is precise like compared to lucid?00:46
k1l_xx: 2 years newer?00:47
ActionParsnipxx: it uses Unity as a replacement for Gnome-panel but it can be installed00:47
ActionParsnipxx: it has later versions of the packages that make up the OS00:47
ControllerSYRthanks00:47
juanyciao00:48
juany!list00:48
ubottujuany: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».00:48
paolonshi00:49
alexfpmskostkon, ??? generic ?00:49
kostkonalexfpms, ??00:49
alexfpmskostkon, i have 64bit and uname -r gives me: 3.5.0-17-generic00:50
kostkonalexfpms, you have 64bit cpu but the 32bit version of ubuntu00:50
alexfpmskostkon, but uname -m gives: x86_6400:50
alexfpmskostkon, no00:50
kostkonalexfpms, right00:50
ActionParsnipalexfpms: -r   just gives the release, there are 32bit and 64bit versions of each release00:51
alexfpmskostkon,00:52
alexfpmsActionParsnip, exactly00:52
ActionParsnipalexfpms: -m   shows the machine which is the arch of the kernel :)00:52
wabashActionParsnip: Do you ever have problems with xfce where say, you can't move a window with alt-F7 down or to the right?00:52
alexfpmsActionParsnip, ok unama -a to show all the info00:53
ActionParsnipwabash: not when I used it, I use LXDE now00:53
ActionParsnipalexfpms: true but if you want specific bits you can add switches :)00:53
Arizona_baytest00:53
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xxokay00:54
wabashActionParsnip: How do you like that? Is it stripped down a bit compared to XFCE?00:54
xxcan i instal the updated vversion of ubuntu with installing updates?00:54
alexfpmsActionParsnip, ok what do uname -p ?00:54
hot_wheelzin 12.10 anyone had sound then lost it?00:54
alexfpmsActionParsnip, it gives processor00:54
xxi have ubuntu on dual boot and im scared some files will be lost.00:54
ActionParsnipxx: you can upgrade from Lucid to Precise as you are upgrading to the next LTS00:55
k1l_xx: yes. you can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 through the LTS upgrade00:55
xxLTS?00:55
ActionParsnipxx: Long term support00:55
wilee-nileexx, Back it up before upgrading, personally I would clone it to be safe.00:55
xxwilee-nilee,  what are the risk that some of my files would be destroyed?00:56
ActionParsniphot_wheelz: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds then try sound00:56
ActionParsnipxx: you will have backups if your data is important00:56
wilee-nileexx, It is not the risk here is it can you afford to have anything bad happen.00:56
wabashActionParsnip: Can you do most nifty things in LDXE that you can with XFCE?00:57
xxnot really wilee-nilee00:57
ActionParsnipwabash: what do you need?00:57
xxi suppose then ill upgrade some other time00:58
xxi just really need to fix my wireless quickly00:58
wabashActionParsnip: Well, I liked gnome 2.x. It worked really well for me for programming. Gnome 3 does not; it gets in my way I feel. So I'm looking for what's closest to Gnome3: XFCE or LXDE. I use XFCE on Fedora now.  It's a bit clunky sometimes.00:58
ActionParsnipxx: Is the system a laptop?00:58
xxyes aCTION00:58
xxActionParsnip, *00:58
ActionParsnipwabash: xfce is probably closer00:58
wabashActionParsnip: ok, thanks.00:59
wabashAnyone here know if Gnome3 with tweaks comes very close to Gnome 2?00:59
ActionParsnipxx: then use a wired connection and get updates as well as install the drivers there, broadcom are the easiest to install00:59
bubblehousehello: ok, attempting to boot first install on hp e-Vectra, now goes to boot: prompt without doing anything.  Attempted "install" and says "could not find kernel image: install00:59
xx!broadcom01:00
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx01:00
ActionParsnipbubblehouse: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?01:00
bubblehouseActionParsnip: just suddenly started loading right now... was at boot: prompt and then just started on its own01:01
bubblehouseat splash screen now.01:01
ActionParsnipxx: like I said, your release has 6 months of life left in it. After then you will get no updates and no support anywhere01:01
ActionParsnipbubblehouse: what video chip do you use?01:02
xxaction what about one one osiric whatever that distro was called?01:02
xxversion* not distro :p01:02
bubblehousenot sure yet.  Just got this CPU from someone, trying to load up lubuntu, sorry I'm so uninformed.01:02
bubblehouseit's attempting to load.  will let you know once I get a cli back or something01:03
ActionParsnipxx: Oneiric Ocelot - Ubuntu 11.10   also dies on April 201301:03
cloud__hello everybody01:04
xxoh wow so i need to change my tower too :<01:04
xxi hope Precise is better than Oneiric01:04
ActionParsnipxx: lets put it simply. In April 2013, the only 2 releases supported on the desktop will be Precise (Ubuntu 12.04) and Quantal (12.10) as well as Lucid on the server01:04
xxIT BETTER BE BETTER :p01:04
ActionParsnipxx: you don't need to change anything, just install the newer release01:04
xxand back my stuff up before that01:05
ActionParsnipxx: why do you not already have a backup?01:05
cloud__i think you could simply go on with what you have...01:05
cloud__couldn't you?01:05
xxi dont back my stuff up for some stupid reason accipter01:06
xxActionParsnip,01:06
xxits very stupid of me01:06
cloud__hello ActionParsnip01:06
tom89what a good backup for ubuntu01:06
ActionParsnipcloud__: howdy01:06
ActionParsniptom89: a nice big USB HDD is cheap and easy01:07
ekajhow does ESXi compare to Ubuntu erver when it comes to hosting VMs?01:07
wilee-nileetom89, I use clonezilla for clones and grsync for home01:07
cloud__ActionParsnip,  writing from lubuntu, after your advices on partitions etc01:07
ActionParsnipcloud__: sweet01:07
cloud__ActionParsnip,  i just said goodbye to microsoft01:07
luc_Gooplus.fr do you like ?01:07
wilee-nileecloud__, Did Balmer rant at you. ;)01:08
ActionParsnipcloud__: hehe enjoy dude :)01:08
cloud__wilee-nilee,  i hope so01:08
tom89I will try clonezilla01:08
cloud__:D01:08
cloud__now i just knew about a broser, xxxsomething01:09
wilee-nileetom89, You can do whole HD's or partitions, and it also saves the mbr.01:09
cloud__browser01:09
cloud__don't know if it's worth installing ir01:09
cloud__it01:09
minascan I change to pci=noacpi without logging into ubuntu? (because I cant :) )01:09
minasI mean from grub or something01:10
FacelessI just added a user with "adduser"01:10
FacelessAnd when i enter "users"01:11
ActionParsnipminas: hold SHIFT at boot01:11
Facelessthe new user wont show up01:11
ActionParsnipFaceless: how about if you run:   groups username01:11
alexfpmsFaceless, man users01:11
luc_hello, I am looking for information on the black SEO. there is SEO software for ubuntu?01:11
alexfpmsFaceless, users - print the user names of users currently logged in to the current host01:12
Facelessoh01:12
Facelessthank you01:12
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minasActionParnship: At boot of ubuntu? at the screen where I choose to boot ubuntu/windows 7 etc?01:14
minasor after I selected to boot into ubuntu01:14
minas?01:14
luc_for {spin} or autosubmit in free directory01:14
ActionParsnipminas: press E on the ubuntu kernel and then you can add it on the same line as:   quiet splash01:14
Facelessbut when i try to use "chown guest:guest folder" it acts as there is no "guest"-user01:16
craigbass1976I've got a laptop with no trackpad buttons.  One finger tap is like the left button.  A two fingered tap is like the right click.  Any idea what's used usually for emulating clicking both buttons?01:16
alexfpmsFaceless, there is no guest user01:17
Facelessok01:17
Facelesswhy?01:17
Facelessi used adduser guest01:17
ActionParsnipFaceless: the OS comes with a guest account......01:18
ActionParsnipFaceless: why are you making another?01:18
minasActionParnship: thanks a lot!01:18
ActionParsnipminas: now you are booted you can add it permanently using the desktop OS :)01:19
Facelessidk actually, i was going to make an account for my friends to access my ftp-server01:19
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cloud__my god, this is very amazing, guys. i used linux a lot of time ago, when lxde was just born, and i had to do a lot of things just to watch a youtube video. it's really impressive to see how much things have changed... just wanted to thank you all for the advices, and say "see you soon"01:20
ActionParsnipFaceless: then I'd choose a different name, like his name...01:20
alexfpmsFaceless, what does command "adduser guest" said ?01:20
alexfpmsFaceless, it created guest folder ?01:21
Facelessnothing special01:21
Facelessyeah01:21
Facelessjust like if i created a normal user01:21
alexfpmsFaceless, cat /etc/passwd is there guest inside ?01:21
Facelessyes01:22
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alexfpmsFaceless, so normally it is here01:23
alexfpmsFaceless, try log out, log in01:23
Facelesswith the actual user01:23
Faceless?01:23
alexfpmsyes01:23
Facelessok, now?01:24
alexfpmsyes01:24
ImmatixI've installed a basic mail server package using tasksel install mail-server, and I have IMAP working properly with Thunderbird. However, I can't send email. I get "Relay access denied" from Postfix. ideas?01:24
hot_wheelzany updates on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/106462101:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1064621 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "Internal speaker muted after a while, several Realtek codecs (Quantal)" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:24
intuxicatedhi guys01:24
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Faceless"guest" is still there01:25
alexfpmsFaceless, what is the problem so ?01:25
tdlguik1cchicago01:25
tdlguik1cchicagotall01:25
ActionParsniphot_wheelz: tried the alsa ppa?01:26
intuxicated_hi again01:26
Vkahey guys, having big trouble with "general protection fault" mode. I have a black screen but the mouse seems to move, altought i cannot do anything with the keyboard but the pritn-screen does work "i only hear the click". I'm now supposed to install a patch for the program that caused this, and i know how to do that. I only don't know how to get out of this GPF mode. Please help!01:26
tdlguik1cchicagotallstrange01:26
cakebossHEy guys. I am trying to mount a raw disk as a loopback device. There is an error I am being given, "you must specify the filesystem type". Anyone have any ideas?01:27
mikubuntuam i mistaken?  i thought that microsoft had made .odt files readable on windows machines?  i sent an official document/letter to a city office today and they replied saying that the file couldn't be opened and displayed this msg: "”The file 2012 11 1CityofCoralSprings cannot be opened because there are problems with the contents.  The file is corrupt and cannot be opened.”01:27
Facelessi want to run "chown guest:guest <folder>"01:27
ActionParsnipmikubuntu: libreoffice can export to PDF and you can then send that01:28
intuxicated_i have an external sound card , name is EDIROL, it works fine, but if i unplug and plug it back system wont recognize it, any idea ? i try to restart  alsa but no luck01:28
alexfpmsFaceless, what groups guest says ?01:28
Faceless"filetransfer"01:28
minasActionParnship: I edited /etc/default/grub, added acpi=off, sudo update-grub and now it works01:28
minasthanks again01:29
mikubuntuActionParsnip: I know that, and I will -- but, still the question -- isn't microsoft SUPPOSED to be able to read .odt?01:29
ActionParsnipmikubuntu: no idea, try asking in ##windows01:29
alexfpmsFaceless, groups guest gives filetransfer ?01:29
freetown2anybody here managed to get iOS 6 devices to print via cups?01:29
intuxicated_no idea ?01:29
ActionParsnipmikubuntu: and you mean MS OFFICE is able to read odt, Microsoft is a company, not a software01:30
Facelessyes, i added it to the "filetransfer"-group01:30
mikubuntuActionParsnip: yes, OFFICE01:30
afidegnumhello, pls what's the correct cron job formula? I am trying to run a cron at every 30 mins of every hours, everyday 30 * * * * wget -O - -q -t 1 http://www.thestorecomplex.com/cron.php01:30
ActionParsnipmikubuntu: there is a difference01:30
alexfpmsFaceless, so chown guest:guest wont work because there is no group guest01:30
ActionParsnipfreetown2: can it connect to http printers?01:30
mikubuntuActionParsnip: I HATE MICROSOFT01:31
ActionParsnipmikubuntu: ok......01:31
Facelessbut when i TAB after "chown " my username fills in automatically01:31
alexfpmsFaceless, when you create new user, the default group it creates is the same as the user name01:31
cakebossAnyone have any ideas?01:31
Facelessso i should have entered "filetransfer:guest"?01:31
alexfpmsFaceless, but you changed the default group by filetransfer01:32
alexfpmsFaceless, chow guest:filetranfer01:32
ActionParsnipcakeboss: what filename are you trying to mount?01:32
alexfpmsFaceless, user:group01:32
Facelessok01:32
freetown2ActionParsnip, http printers? nope, it won't 'see' them because they won't advertise image/urf support01:32
Facelessbut when i TAB at "chown gu" nothing fills in?01:33
ActionParsnipfreetown2: you could share the printer with samba, can the OS connect to windows shared printers?01:33
freetown2except for one very new printer that we will soon put away01:33
alexfpmsFaceless, not gu but gru01:33
freetown2ActionParsnip, iOS 6. As in them dumb tablets that do airprinting?01:33
alexfpmsFaceless, *gro01:34
ActionParsnipfreetown2: not used one, I refuse  to buy apple products01:34
cakebossActionParsnip: I am trying to mount a raw file through a loopback device01:34
ActionParsnipcakeboss: so its an image of a CD? Or something else?01:34
freetown2ActionParsnip, yeah, not my choice either. schools here are kinda sold on Apple crap01:34
Facelesswell, i expected it to fill in guest from gu01:34
Jordan_Ucakeboss: If it's a disk image, rather than an image of a fileystem, then you'll need to expose the partitions using kpartx first.01:35
cakebossActionParsnip: I converted a .vmdk to a .raw I am trying to convert it to a .iso...So I guess now it is just an image?01:35
alexfpmsFaceless, sorry i've mistaken01:35
Jordan_Ucakeboss: What is your end goal?01:35
Facelessnp01:35
cakebossJordan_U: To convert this .vmdk to a .iso01:35
alexfpmsFaceless, so when you do chown guest:filetranfer does it work ?01:35
Facelessno01:35
ActionParsnipfreetown2: http://leimobile.com/how-to-setup-airprint-on-ubuntu-11-10-desktop/01:36
Jordan_Ucakeboss: A: That's not an end goal B: That's not possible. What is your end goal?01:36
alexfpmsFaceless, and what does it says ?01:36
cakebossJordan_U: To see the contents of JanusVM. I am using: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/convert-vm-iso01:36
ActionParsnipcakeboss: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-mount-ntfs-vmware-virtual-disk-image-vmdk-readwrite.html   why convert it01:36
freetown2ActionParsnip, ahem, it works with iOS 5 but not with iOS 6 in which Apple has helpfully changed its printing01:36
cakebossActionParsnip: Read what I said to Jordan_U01:37
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ActionParsnipfreetown2: is it not the same method?01:37
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Facelessalexfpms: uhm01:38
freetown2ActionParsnip, nope. They now do urf instead of pdf -_-01:38
Jordan_Ucakeboss: Since the image is presumably of a virtual drive with partitions, and you mount partitions not drives, you first need to make the partitions accessible. That can be done with "sudo kpartx -a /path/to/disk.image".01:38
ActionParsnipfreetown2: sounds greeeeeeat01:38
Facelessalexfpms: it seems like it worked now01:38
alexfpmsFaceless, do you know that you have to run it as root ?01:38
cakebossJordan_U: Thanks01:38
ActionParsnipfreetown2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1225486601:38
Jordan_Ucakeboss: Then you can mount the actual partition, which can be accessed via /dev/mapper/loopXpY01:38
Jordan_Ucakeboss: You're welcome.01:38
freetown2ActionParsnip, i had to modify the avahi server files to advertise urf. Yeah, I know. I'd like to black out Infinity Loop01:38
cakebossThanks again01:38
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Facelessalexfpms: yes, but i think the problem solved after i rebooted01:39
freetown2ActionParsnip, been there, done that and no go.01:39
alexfpmsFaceless, chown gu + tab doesn't work beacause you are not in the filetransfer group01:39
ActionParsnipfreetown2: you can copy a PDF to the server, then run:  lpr filename.pdf   in an SSH session and it will print01:39
vespakoenHey guys I am looking for a good, lightweight email client, gmail is nice but for multiple accounts. it sucks =) thunderbird is way to heavy and slow (strange since I am on a i5 with and 4gb ram hehe) and I need it to support html templates.. any ideas?01:39
Facelessalexfpms: oh, ok01:40
Jordan_Ucakeboss: Note that that's explicitly stated in the website you linked to, "GOTCHA 1: If your VM has partitions, it's a little tricker. You'll need to setup the loop device, partition mappings and finally mount the rootfs partition. You will need kpartx to setup the mappings. :".01:40
freetown2ActionParsnip, thanks, I'll tell that to the rest of the school. :-)01:40
Facelessalexfpms: well, thanks a lot anyway!01:40
alexfpmsFaceless, ;)01:40
jribvespakoen: if you like text-based apps, consider mutt01:40
cakebossJordan_U: Yeah I was just about to ask about that haha01:41
Jordan_Ucakeboss: :)01:41
ActionParsnipfreetown2: well if they want to buy proprietary stuff which doesn't play nice with anything but itself, you're gonna get issues01:41
ActionParsnipfreetown2: could buy an airprint server and hook it up01:42
vespakoenjrib, I need something with HTML template support =P01:42
freetown2ActionParsnip, heh, did I mention that even cups on Mac OS X has issues?01:42
freetown2ActionParsnip, ah well, i guess I shall just have to put on a big :-D01:42
freetown2ActionParsnip, thanks01:43
willdabeastkimberly, wadup01:43
cakebossJordan_U: I am getting a bunch of jargon01:43
cakebossJordan_U: When I use the first command in the instructions I get, "losetup: no permission to look at /dev/loop<N>01:43
cakeboss"01:44
ActionParsnipfreetown2: http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i:aps,k:airprint%20print%20server&tag=duckduckgo-d-20    nice and cheap01:44
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freetown2ActionParsnip, nevermind, i have in addition to supporting airprinting the need to tracking print jobs and charge them to accounts. I guess I will just have to go MacPro + Papercut and not Ubuntu + Papercut01:45
freetown2s/tracking/track/01:45
TCorwinQuick question, does anyone know if Ubuntu provides free CD Distributions for advertisment and such?01:46
vespakoengoing to give "evolution" a shot01:46
zykotick9vespakoen: fyi, if you find thunderbird "heavy" wait 'till you see evolution.01:49
freetown2vespakoen, how about going KDE and giving Kmail a try?01:50
freetown2vespakoen, there is also opera...01:51
Congeverything in KDE looks better01:52
wastrel[01:54
vespakoenfreetown2, kk, thanks, maybe I need to archive stuff, or something else is wrong with thunderbird, I dunno..01:55
* vespakoen check out Kmail and opera01:55
vespakoenchecks*01:55
freetown2vespakoen, there's nothing wrong with thunderbird. it just tends to consume an inordinate amount of RAM especially if you have thousands of emails in your mailboxes01:56
vespakoenyeh, it's crazy, and it seems to not even get my mail haha01:57
vespakoenbut maybe that's because I probably went opening them in gmail first haha, nvm01:57
ActionParsnipCong: you can theme stuff to look how you want....01:57
luoluoluohi there, how to mark all mail as read in ubuntu?02:01
ActionParsnipluoluoluo: in which client?02:01
zykotick9ActionParsnip: i just found out yesterday that you can theme midnight-commander, not that i have ;)02:02
ActionParsnipzykotick9: nice :)02:02
luoluoluoActionParsnip: /var/spool/mail/root02:03
amews_aj-studytestdisk already found my missing partition. Is there anyway I can tell it not to look for more missing partitions? The rest of the partitions should be left unchanged02:03
luoluoluoin command02:03
luoluoluoI can't google an answer...02:04
mibr001while trying to install gui dj software i installed libdjconsole it failed halfway through and will not repair i am unable to install or uninstall anything using gui or terminal help02:05
zykotick9mibr001: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install", if so, what is the error?02:06
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mibr001E: Unable to locate package install02:07
zykotick9mibr001: that looks like a syntax error...02:08
mibr001E: Sub-process /usr/bun/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:10
tomreyni'm bored, anyone needs help?02:11
c2taruntomreyn, if you can help me in Rooting android phone and partitioning SD Card?02:12
tomreynwith ubuntu02:12
mibr001cannot un/install software after failed libdjconsole install error details :installArchives() failed: (Reading database ...02:13
mibr001(Reading database ... 5%02:13
mibr001(Reading database ... 10%02:13
mibr001(Reading database ... 15%02:13
mibr001(Reading database ... 20%02:13
FloodBot1mibr001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:13
mibr001note to self DO NOT copy and paste error details here02:15
ActionParsnipluoluoluo: don't the read ones just get moved to another folder (they do in qmail)02:15
Titomenanybody with some experience on software raid ubuntu02:15
somethingintereshow can I fix a "device or resource busy error" when trying to work with my tv tuner?02:15
luoluoluoActionParsnip: I finally figured out, enter "mail" to go into system mail list and enter "seen :u"02:15
ActionParsnipluoluoluo: ahh, gotcha02:16
ActionParsnipluoluoluo: nice02:16
luoluoluoActionParsnip: thanks for the reply02:16
mibr001how can i give someone error details without flooding here02:16
ActionParsnipluoluoluo: I try. Glad you got the gold'02:16
mibr001also who can help me02:16
wilee-nilee!pastebin02:16
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:16
ActionParsnipmibr001: usehttp://pastie.org or similar02:16
ActionParsnipmibr001: you may need to force install the deb02:17
RobbyFhey guys, just insatlled 12.10 but those nouveau drivers are awful and causing tearing but my nvidia won't install, any tips?02:18
ActionParsnipRobbyF: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current02:19
mibr001im not very good in terminal can you give me the command?02:19
RobbyFdoesn't work, gives me the no unity blank desktop look02:19
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TCorwinQuick question, does anyone know if Ubuntu provides free CD Distributions for advertisment and such?02:19
ActionParsnipmibr001: copy the output then go to http://pastie.org and paste the text there, hit paste then when the page changes, copy the new address bar and paste that here02:20
ActionParsnipmibr001: its not very much to do with terminal, so being 'good with the terminal' isn't important02:20
mibr001sorry i read the wrong comment there :)02:20
ActionParsnipTCorwin: you can download Ubuntu for free,or buy CDs at the Ubuntu shop or even on Ebay if your connection is slow02:20
wilee-nileeTCorwin, Canonical stopped the free cd's awhile back.02:21
mibr001http://pastie.org/516989202:21
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TCorwinActionParsnip and wilee-nilee: I'm doing a presentation to promote Ubuntu and help current users with basic issues in 12.04 and 12.10. i was mainly looking for promotional CDs that they would provide.02:22
willdabeasthow can I check in terminal whether I have openGL on?02:23
ActionParsnipTCorwin: how would they be different to the ISO you can already download....for free02:23
somethinginteresActionParsnip: I've been getting X crashes with nvidia current on my Geforce 8800.02:23
ActionParsnipmibr001: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjconsole-data_0.1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb02:24
ActionParsnipmibr001: find the source of the package and report the bug, there are duplicate files and the package manager doesn't like that02:24
TCorwinActionParsnip: I don't have any blank CDs. And i was curious if they provided free CDs for promotional reasons.Apparently not though.02:25
OerHeksTCorwin, some country's do have local teams to give away cd on promotion events. latest 12.10 doesn't fit on a cd+r anymore.02:25
mibr001thanks :) i think everything is gonna work now02:25
luoluoluoActionParsnip: it seems "seen :u" is working on centos, but cannot work on ubuntu, I am still keep finding the solution02:25
torontoyesIs there a way to reinstall ubuntu without losing your previous install?02:26
willdabeasthow can I check in terminal whether I have openGL on?02:26
torontoyesI mean.. there are some things I would love to over write02:26
torontoyesI am hung in my boot process with a black screen02:26
torontoyesI'm clueless what to do02:26
TCorwinOerHeks: Iwas looking for 12.04 LTS on a CD+R. And thats why i asked, cause i am part of a group, just without any CDs.02:27
ActionParsniptorontoyes: you could install over the top but you'll probably get issues. Far neater and more likely to get fewer issues with a reinstall then restore data from backup02:27
ActionParsniptorontoyes: what video chip do you use?02:27
torontoyesActionParsnip: older Pc.. don't remember.02:27
ActionParsnipwildc4rd: glxinfo | grep -i direct02:27
torontoyesActionParsnip: but everything installs ok02:27
ActionParsniptorontoyes: try the boot option: nomodeset02:27
torontoyesActionParsnip: I have vmware on there.. and there is some important ant stuff there.02:28
ActionParsniptorontoyes: why do you not have a backup?02:28
wilee-nileewilldabeast, ^^^^ as wildc4rd02:28
MartynKeigherhey all02:28
torontoyesActionParsnip: Cause I'm a nut02:28
torontoyesI will use live cd and back up02:28
torontoyesI have a drive to throw everything02:28
ActionParsniptorontoyes: once you get the data. 1, backup your so called 'important'stuff.  then 2. Backup the stuff REGULARLY02:29
torontoyesActionParsnip: Understood02:29
ActionParsniptorontoyes: boot the VM to a live CD and you can mount the partition and access the data02:30
torontoyesActionParsnip: what do you mean?02:30
torontoyesI can run the vmware image from live cd?02:30
ActionParsniptorontoyes: I can't phrase it much differently, make the VM boot to the ISO and you can mount the partitions on the virtual drive and access the data02:31
torontoyesohh02:31
ActionParsniptorontoyes: can you see how much easier this would be if you had a backup02:31
torontoyesActionParsnip: hmm.. yes02:31
wilee-nileetorontoyes, This virtualbox?02:31
torontoyeswilee-nilee: no, vmware02:32
mibr001still same problem...02:32
ActionParsniptorontoyes: I see this every day, people without backups when their data is apparently important, there is no excuse and its completely frustrating to have to dig people out, when it's so easily avoidable02:32
torontoyeswait. I have some strange messages in the prompt02:32
wilee-nileehallelujah ActionParsnip02:32
* ActionParsnip sighs02:33
torontoyes[sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through02:33
torontoyesthen...02:33
torontoyes[sdb] No Caching mode page present02:33
torontoyeswhat does that mean?02:34
wilee-nileeActionParsnip, I do always chuckle when you phish with the use your backup. ;)02:34
justoboyhello02:35
ActionParsnipwilee-nilee: people need educating. Trying to avoid people learning the hard way, its getting ridiculous now. Makes life easier for us as we don't have to start advising data recovery which takes time and effort.02:36
bandit-ledany one else experiencing random lockups that need a hard reset to get back from??02:36
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torontoyesActionParsnip: I don't know why I take backing up for granted02:37
TCorwinSince were on the topic of Virtual Machines, my ISO for Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 will load for about 20 seconds and stop. This would be easier to show if someone had TeamViewer.02:38
ActionParsniptorontoyes: you aren't alone02:38
TCorwinAmy Suggestions on how to fix this?02:39
TCorwinany*02:39
wilee-nileeActionParsnip, I agree, I try to inform people, one would think that having to spend hours fixing something at best would be enough, let alone the loss of data.02:39
mibr001http://pastie.org/5169971 i tried sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjconsole-data_0.1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb nothing changed02:40
mibr001i do not need libdjconsole02:40
brunolopesjnhi02:42
brunolopesjnanybody can help me?02:42
ekim1Is it only for linux or can it be used on windows.02:42
brunolopesjni use ubuntu02:43
TCorwinekim1: can what be used?02:43
basketballstarsync flash drive with ubuntu 102:43
DiamondciteI use arch , but why not ask your question anyway :)02:43
ActionParsnipmibr001: where are these debs from?02:43
ekim1sorry wrong chat....too many going at once!02:44
brunolopesjni change unconsciously my user group, and i need know the standard groups of a user to fix it02:44
ActionParsnipbrunolopesjn: $USER adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare02:45
mibr001http://hivelocity.dl.sourceforge.net/project/djplay/libdjconsole/0.1.2/libdjconsole_0.1.2-2_i386.deb02:45
totallylostCan someone help me with my VM?02:47
MartynKeigherwassup!?02:48
totallylostUbuntu 12.04 will not load while i use the ISO in my VM. It starts and runs for 20 seconds the a bunch of text comes up.02:49
ActionParsniptotallylost: which ISO are you using?02:50
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totallylostubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso02:50
ActionParsniptotallylost: did you MD5 test the ISO?02:50
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brunolopesjnActionParsnip: Thanks a lot!!!02:51
totallylostActionParsnip: im sorry, what is that?02:51
ActionParsnip!md5 | totallylost02:51
ubottutotallylost: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows02:51
Guest51505hey guys. quick question. installing ubuntu 12.10 to a USB stick (not a live USB, but a full install). what file system do you recommend? ext4? fat32? what's fastest on a standard USB stick? you can install to fat32, right?02:51
ActionParsnipGuest51505: ext2 will cause fewer writes but doesn't have a journal. Ext4 has a journal but will write more02:52
totallylostubottu: thanks for the insformation.02:52
ubottutotallylost: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:52
ActionParsnipGuest51505: Fat32 isn't suitable for Linux installs02:52
Guest51505ActionParsnip: and a journal makes it... safer?02:52
Guest51505i guess i'll forget Fat32 then :)02:52
Jordan_UActionParsnip: Guest51505:  ext4 can be used without a journal as well.02:52
ActionParsnipGuest5it helps with sudden power offs and such02:52
ActionParsnipi gotta split anyhoo02:53
ActionParsnippeace02:53
Guest51505Jordan_U: i don't want to rock the boat too much. i'll go with ext402:53
Jordan_UGuest51505: A good choice :)02:53
Guest51505Jordan_U: i feel like i'm in the posh department store for file systems02:54
mibr001 http://hivelocity.dl.sourceforge.net/project/djplay/libdjconsole/0.1.2/libdjconsole_0.1.2-2_i386.deb open in software center failed during install i then followed the instruction to run sudo apt-get install -f in terminal which did nothing then i tried this sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjconsole-data_0.1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb which did nothing throughout this whole time this is my error http://pastie.org/516997102:54
willdabeastIs there a way to turn down your fan speed in terminal?02:55
mibr001sorry for the novel btw02:58
zoktarhas anyone been getting alot of segfaults lately from various media players, (seems to be mostly mp4 and mkv files) ?02:59
zoktarfor 12.1002:59
Titomeni need some adivse on instaling ubuntu 12.04 on raid 1 boot and rest on raid5 +lvm03:00
zoktariv tried removing any codecs and libs assosiated, minus the ones that uninstall half your system,03:01
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mibr001can someone let me know if youre working?03:04
exonarthexgood day03:04
exonarthexim having an issue with ubuntu 12.1003:04
exonarthexi have installed fglrx driver on my asus k42dy laptop and i can't see anything on the desktop03:04
exonarthexno launcher or toolbars03:04
exonarthexplease help me03:04
mibr001try logging out and logging in ubuntu classic or 2d or whatever its called in this release03:06
exonarthexi can only logout using ctrl+alt+delete03:07
cakebossHey guys. I am trying to setup a loop device, partition mappings, and mount the rootfs partition. When I enter, "loopdev=$(losetup -s -f file.raw)" and I get, "No permission to look at /dev/loop<N>" as my response...what am I doing wrong?03:08
mibr001and youre then at your login screen click the gear on the password box and select ubuntu classic or 2d or whatever the "old" one is called then login this will use different graphics settings and therefore drivers so you can fix you real problem03:09
cakebossAnyone???03:11
cakebossActually it is, "losesetup: no permission to look at /dev/loop<N>"03:12
mibr001im not very smart but if youre in terminal are you using sudo?03:13
cakebossmibr001: yes03:13
ekajDoes it ask for a password?03:13
cakebossekaj: yes03:13
ekajWhat user are you?03:13
cakebossekaj: the main account? I am using sudo so I thought it gave me root permissions03:14
Mayhewcakeboss: Ubuntu non-LTS releases are glorified betas. I would just use 12.04, or wait until 12.10.1.03:14
cakebossMayhew: I don't understand what that has to do with anything?03:14
cakebossMayhew: I am in the process of converting a .vmdk to a .iso. I am not doing anything with the OS itself.03:15
Mayhewcakeboss: sorry, meant to say that to exonarthex03:15
cakebossMayhew: ah lol03:15
exonarthexcakeboss: should i download and install 12.04 then?03:16
cakebossexonarthex: see Mayhew03:16
philllllijwI'm installing ubuntu and I would like to know more about LVM. Essentailly what I want to do is have my /home as a separate partition. Is there an option for that?03:17
Mayhewexonarthex: Ubuntu non-LTS releases are glorified betas. I would just use 12.04, or wait until 12.10.1.03:18
psusiphilllllijw, you might want to read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm03:18
mibr001person with graphics problem who were you03:18
psusiphilllllijw, you can have a /home partition without LVM, but LVM has other advantages, also has disadvantages though03:19
philllllijwpsusi, what are the disadvantages03:19
psusiphilllllijw, Windows doesn't recognize lvm volumes... it's a bit more difficult to setup03:19
mibr001and i just fixed my problem yay! i uninstalled djplay my problem was from a completely different application now im fixing and updating libraries and im good03:19
balleyneJust upgraded to 12.10, and when I open Gwibber, I just see a blank grey area where my updates used to be. When I click Accounts, nothing comes up (and I don't see Broadcast Accounts in Settings anymore). Used to have Twitter and Identi.ca accounts configured, MIA now...03:20
philllllijwpsusi, I probably don't need all the fanciness LVM provides03:20
psusiphilllllijw, the normal gui Ubuntu installer doesn't support it so you have to do some command line management basically03:20
psusiphilllllijw, but if you're comfortable on the command line, it has some significant advantages, especially if you tend to use multiple disks and multiple Linux installs03:21
mibr001who did i tell id be right back log off click the ubuntu symbol on the password box select ubuntu 2d and log in you should be ok03:21
mibr001now that my computer isnt having a seizure good night my friends03:22
philllllijwpsusi, i'm doing a netinstall and i'm fairly comfy with cmdline.03:22
psusiphilllllijw, then you might like the features LVM provides... see the wiki entry I wrote for more info... but if you just want a separate /home partition, you can get by without it03:22
philllllijwpsusi, I'll just separate /home for now. Any idea if I can do that easily through the curses interface?03:23
psusiif you find yourself occationally setting up partitions to install Linux distros to for testing, resize partitions or move them between disks, then lvm may be for you... otherwise, might not be worth the bother03:23
psusiphilllllijw, you can do that easily with the regular GUI Ubuntu installer03:24
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philllllijwpsusi, I dont have any intentions of installing various versions of linux. I do watn teh option to overwrite my installation without losing my /home directory though03:24
psusiphilllllijw, you can do that just fine without LVM03:25
psusiphilllllijw, just create a /home partition with the regular gui installer and set it to be mounted at /home03:25
philllllijwpsusi, ok, I can't seem to figure it out using the installer03:25
balleynehow can I compare my Ubuntu install to a default install? I feel like I'm missing some recommended packages...03:26
psusiphilllllijw, you also don't need a separate /home partition to keep your home directory if you reinstall Ubuntu... just choose manual partitioning, configure the /home partition mount point, and DON'T check the format box03:26
psusiphilllllijw, you can even reinstall and preserve your home directory without having a separate partition if you want these days03:27
psusiyou just have to chose manual partitioning, and do NOT check the format box is all03:28
psusitime for bed, night03:29
|Anthony|argh... i couldn't get clonezilla to boot from a usb drive following their directions03:31
|Anthony|they say that to make a bootable iso to use unetbootin03:31
balleynewhat package do "Broadcast Accounts" come from?03:32
|Anthony|think i could use brasero instead?03:32
jetsaredimis there any way to prevent my system from coming to a complete crawl every time I open the unity menu/lens??03:33
|Anthony|jetsaredim, what are your system specs?03:33
wilee-nilee|Anthony|, I use this usb loader with clonezilla and other ISO's http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/03:34
|Anthony|ah03:35
jetsaredim|Anthony|: AMD 64 X4, 16G DDR3, 256G SSD, Radeon HD 1G RAM03:35
|Anthony|i remember looking at that a WHILE back03:35
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wilee-nilee|Anthony|, This one makes unetbootin look like the neighbors ugly child.03:36
|Anthony|jetsaredim, i don't think that should be an issue on that hardware03:36
|Anthony|lol wilee-nilee03:36
jetsaredim|Anthony|: neither do I03:36
ahmad_hi guys03:36
jetsaredimhence my question03:36
|Anthony|understood03:36
wilee-nileenotice the generic gender hehe03:37
|Anthony|jetsaredim, what cpu is that?03:37
ahmad_can someone please help me figure out why vt-x virtualization is not working on virtualbox 4.2.2 i tried egrep 'vmx|svm' /proc/cpuinfo and vt-x is supported (at least i think so)03:38
jetsaredim|Anthony|: er - sorry Athlon II X4 64003:38
|Anthony|oh03:39
balleynehow do I configure Gwibber accounts in 12.10?03:39
|Anthony|jetsaredim, it's not BEAST, but it should fit the bill. tbh i ditched gnome and unity in favor of xfce03:40
|Anthony|for the performance issues03:40
jetsaredim|Anthony|: yea - I've been leaning that way too03:41
jetsaredimthat's my next step03:41
|Anthony|although i am using compiz and emerald and conky and cairo-dock03:41
|Anthony|lol03:41
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jetsaredimyea i like the eye candy too03:41
|Anthony|;)03:41
jetsaredimi wish there was a way to turn on/off the stupid lenses03:42
|Anthony|honestly i like it cause it's fairly easy to configure to my liking03:42
jetsaredimcause i don't need them03:42
|Anthony|some people like it.03:43
|Anthony|i'm not one of those people03:43
|Anthony|lol03:43
* jetsaredim +103:43
abdobonnano any meeting in #ubuntu-meeting ??03:46
* xlogik is using a Nexus 7 running Android 4.1.1 (JRO03D)03:46
wilee-nileejetsaredim, I believe you can remove them, but here is a link fro toggling them off.  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/lens-toggle-quickly-enable-disable.html03:46
jetsaredimxlogik: 4.1.1 is so last month03:46
wilee-nileexlogik, Gotta root that sucker and get a cooler setup03:47
xlogikyeah thanks.... I'm running ROM that I'm fine with03:47
DINESHwhats  tis?03:47
DINESHwhat is this ?03:48
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xlogiktrying out this client... pressing buttons ;-)03:49
DINESHhello ? anyone  please?03:49
DINESHwhat is this03:50
wilee-nileeDINESH, If you have a problem and need help ask.03:50
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jetsaredimwilee-nilee: apparently lense toggle is only available for 12.0403:50
DINESHwell what is going on here ?03:50
DINESHok this is ubuntu channel sorry...:03:50
DINESH:)03:50
DINESHexit03:51
trismjetsaredim: the code is basically: mkdir /usr/share/unity/lenses.ignore/; mv /usr/share/unity/lenses/lensename/ /usr/share/unity/lenses.ignore/; and the reverse, I think uninstalling/reinstalling is nicer03:52
philllllijwso I basically accidentally installed nothing off of the netinstall. I want to install unity and wahtever else I need. What apt package do I install to get unity?03:52
wilee-nileephilllllijw, sudp apt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:53
wilee-nileesudo*03:53
philllllijwperfect. I'll let that run for a bit and take a shower :)03:53
philllllijwah, its asking me Y/n questions :(03:53
jetsaredimtrism: are the lenses all similarly named packages?03:54
wilee-nileephilllllijw, You might need to install lightdm as well.03:54
mrmcgibbyIsn't there a setting somewhere that allows me to have different monitors be able to switch workspaces seperately?03:54
philllllijwwilee-nilee, what is that03:54
trismjetsaredim: most lenses are: unity-lens-lensname;03:54
jetsaredimtrism: kthx03:54
decbotspeaking of unity, if I recently upgraded from xubuntu 9.10, to 12.04 (long afternoon), would unity be installed?03:55
wilee-nileephilllllijw, It is the light display manager03:55
philllllijwok03:55
wilee-nileephilllllijw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM03:55
philllllijwoh, gdm replacement03:56
philllllijwi'll be back in 15min03:56
|Anthony|this is bullshit03:56
wilee-nileedecbot, If this is a stock xubuntu no you would have to install it.03:59
Brazguy__32testing03:59
Brazguy__32hi guys03:59
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misterhki have a question regarding screen tearing, I've posted about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078890 if anyone could shed some light on my problem id appreciate it04:15
|Anthony|misterhk, are you comfortable editing your xorg.conf file?04:18
misterhk|Anthony|, yup04:18
|Anthony|ok... one sec i'll send a link04:18
|Anthony|misterhk, http://askubuntu.com/questions/198668/3-monitors-ubuntu-12-04-gnome-3-2-nvidia-cards-with-xrandr-or-xinerama/198701#19870104:19
misterhk|Anthony|, thanks04:19
|Anthony|disregard the fact that it is for triple monitors04:19
|Anthony|and look at the first Screen section04:20
misterhkok04:20
|Anthony|notice the Option "TripleBuffer" "True"04:20
misterhkah ic04:21
|Anthony|use that and also the sync to vblank options in nvidia-settings04:21
hoylemdHey, I'm having a problemw ith my ubuntu server's ftp.  I'm trying to PUT a file to my home directory, but i keep getting 550 permission denied errors, even though i'm the directory owner.  Anyone know why this might be happening?04:22
|Anthony|hoylemd, when you ls the $HOME dir, is there a + at the end of the permissions?04:23
hoylemdyou mean when i ls+l it?04:23
hoylemdls -l rather04:23
|Anthony|sure... ls -l   ls -laX04:23
|Anthony|what ever floats your boat04:24
|Anthony|;)04:24
hoylemdoh, because when i ls-l it, i just get the directory listing. only file/directory names04:24
hoylemdso the strict answer to your question is no04:24
|Anthony|sudo getfacl -R /home/insert_username_here04:25
|Anthony|or just getfacl -R blah blah04:25
hoylemdcommand not found04:25
|Anthony|i doubt you would have an acl without having set it up though04:26
|Anthony|ah k04:26
hoylemdgot acl.  it listed a lot of stuff04:26
|Anthony|this is your server, or someone else? you own the physical machine?04:26
hoylemdit's my linode04:27
|Anthony|mmm04:27
philllllijwfor some reason when I restart the system, it just hangs on the command line saying [ 2148.181083] Restarting system.04:27
hoylemduser::rwk group::r-x other::r-x04:27
|Anthony|rwk04:27
|Anthony|wtf is that04:27
|Anthony|should say rwx04:27
hoylemdit's what getfacl says04:27
hoylemd# file: home/hoylemd04:28
hoylemd# owner: hoylemd04:28
hoylemd# group: root04:28
hoylemduser::rwx04:28
hoylemdgroup::r-x04:28
hoylemdother::r-x04:28
FloodBot1hoylemd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:28
|Anthony|yeah, rwx04:28
hoylemdhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1325582/04:29
hoylemdThat's my output04:29
|Anthony|what about using scp. does that give you any issues?04:29
|Anthony|like ftp does04:29
|Anthony|or do you only have ftp access04:30
hoylemdhaven't tried scp04:30
|Anthony|i doubt there is a configuration error on linode's part04:30
elbetomy wallpaper is dissapearing, i have to reset it every time i turn my computer on.  I am using xubunu 12.1004:30
|Anthony|fooey... even using clonezillas preferred method of installing on a usb drive (tuxboot) it still fails for me04:33
akishi all. can i ask something? in update manager at software sources should or should not be checked the followings: Canonical Partners, Canonical Partners (surce code), Indipendent and Indipendent (source code)?04:33
devishdoes alsa base.conf exist here in 12.10 /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf04:33
devishi am unable to find it04:33
hoylemdscp isn't working either04:33
|Anthony|machine still says it04:33
|Anthony|s not a bootable disk04:33
hoylemdnot even giving any feedback04:33
|Anthony|hoylemd, have you tried ssh? idk you might want to contact linode to see what their connection and authentication standards are04:34
|Anthony|obviously you have ssh access... lol04:35
hoylemdi have ssh access, and I'm 99.9% sure it's not a linode problem04:35
jtrucksanyone used rsyslog setup with tls? if so, any ideas on getting around an error like: error adding our certificate. GnuTLS error -64, message: 'Error while reading file.'04:35
hoylemdI'm getting dumb error messages from scp now04:36
|Anthony|hoylemd, you have sudo rights, right?04:36
hoylemdit's saying the file i'm uploading isn't a directory?04:36
hoylemdof course04:36
|Anthony|so theoretically you could adduser and see if it is just that you borked the file perms04:37
tomreynjtrucks: http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/tls_cert_errmsgs.html -> GnuTLS error -6404:38
hoylemdmy user definitely has write access to that directory04:38
tomreynjtrucks: but no, i have not done it before04:38
philllllijwhow do I open the damn console in unity?04:38
tomreynphilllllijw: do you mean a terminal window?04:39
jtruckstomreyn: yeah, I'm working off that page, but thanks for helping out04:39
|Anthony|hoylemd, you're able to mkdir and touch and all that04:39
philllllijwtomreyn, aha, yes! I was searching for 'shell' or 'console' and forgot the word term apparently04:39
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hoylemdTHERE WE GO. man pages are too hard to read.  The problem was that my scp syntax was wrong.04:40
hoylemdbut i'm still at square one: ftp is giving me access errors that don't make sense04:40
tomreynjtrucks: ok, i'd try to check the file format with openssl, this can be easier to handle even though it's also not great04:40
|Anthony|hoylemd, which ftp client?04:40
tomreynphilllllijw: sounds like you went thrugh a long term search phase04:41
hoylemdfilezilla and just the ftp tool04:41
hoylemdsame problem either way.04:41
jtruckstomreyn: oh, duh, openssl is a good suggestion. thanks :)04:41
|Anthony|but filezilla is able to connect, just can't move or upload files04:41
|Anthony|you can still crawl the directory tree04:41
hoylemdyes04:42
tomreyndevish: were you asking whether a file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf is part of any package in  12.10 ?04:42
tomreyndevish: if so, you can either use apt-file or the web interface at http://packages.ubuntu.com to find out.04:43
|Anthony|hoylemd, what about downloading a file from the server?04:43
hoylemdworks04:44
tomreynakis: which of these repositories you use is very much up to you and your preferences.04:47
hoylemdi think i have a vsftpd configuation messed up04:47
hoylemdyeah, looks like i had "write_enable=YES" commented out04:50
hoylemdnow i just ahve to figure out how to restrt vsftpd and i should be good04:50
|Anthony|sudo restart vsftpd04:51
|Anthony|i'm used to openssh04:51
hoylemdwoohoo! fixed it!04:52
hoylemdhey... i bet that's what was wrong with my wordprss thing!04:52
syntroPiAny ideas how i could get sdhci_pci into the ubuntu server installer kernel to install it onto usdhc card?04:52
akistomreyn: i understand and i know that. by default i can see that they are checked (at other software) Indipendent and Indipendent (source code)? why Canonical Partners, Canonical Partners (source code) aren't checked by default and what do they provide me if i will check them. will they provide me something important?04:52
tomreynakis: canonical, the company behind ubuntu, has some contracts with other companies which make proprietary software. the results of these contracts are available in this repository.04:54
tomreynit includes one variant of adobe flash player and reader, i think.04:55
syntroPiis there any location where i could browse the available kernel modules for ubuntu server installer kernel?04:57
akistomreyn: thank you for clarification. so do i have to check them, am i loosing something important if i leave them uncheck (default) or should i check them?04:57
tomreynakis: i couldn't tell what's important to you04:59
akistomreyn: ok. i c. i leave them uncheck as default.05:01
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tomreynakis: (as an example) here's a list of packages in the partner repository for 12.10 x86_64: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/partner/binary-amd64/05:07
tomreynyou can also browse the directory structure of the extras ("independent") repositories this way.05:07
akistomreyn: i realized that ubuntu center installed a 2nd Canonical Partners (other software) source and it was checked. Can i safely remove this duplicate source and leave the default which was created by the system's installation and leave it unchecked as default?05:11
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tomreynif there are duplicates usinng the same repository location then you can remove one, yes05:13
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akistomreyn: removing them using update manager's option is it a total remove or do i have to remove manually anything more?05:17
tomreynakis: that's sufficient05:18
akistomreyn: ok thanks a lot.05:18
tomreynas long as they still show in update manager they remain in /etc/apt/sources.list* but they will be commented out and thus inactive.05:18
lcabrezahi guys, when im playing a video on Ubuntu 12.04 using totem ..sometimes video won't show ..i have to logout and log back in to make it work. is there a way to fix this ..05:20
akisthe dupicate i deleted already they dont be shown in update manager. are they still in /etc/apt/sources.list* as duplicates?05:21
tomreynif it fdoesn't show greyed out in update managed then it's all fone05:22
tomreyn*gone05:22
struninHello All!05:24
akistomreyn: no they doesnt show at all. must they have gone. the same procedure must be followed for every othe remove of a software source. isn't it?05:24
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Conginstalled micro-httpd now what do I do?05:25
f00dMonstaAttention: Don't play Diablo3 with WINE. I got banned for it.05:26
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tomreynakis: if you really want to delete any notion of an apt source, for whatever reason, yes. but normally just disabling them is fine, and allows you to reenable them later.05:26
tomreyn!ops tdlguik1c05:26
akistomreyn: yes i know that and i am following already this method. it is very convenient.05:28
f00dMonstaSince that random spambot tried to scroll off my text...05:28
f00dMonstaAttention: Don't play Diablo3 with WINE. I got banned for it.05:28
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IdleOne!ot > f00dMonsta05:29
ubottuf00dMonsta, please see my private message05:29
CongThey don't know you are using wine.05:29
f00dMonstanot OT since it affects all linux users05:29
IdleOneit is ot since it has nothing to do with ubuntu support05:30
f00dMonstauntil you get people complaining about why D3 doesn't work with Ubuntu05:30
IdleOnef00dMonsta: it works fine with wine apparently.05:30
f00dMonstaIt does, you just get banned for it05:31
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IdleOneNow please stick to the topic of Ubuntu support.05:31
f00dMonstafine....05:31
IdleOneThank you.05:31
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akiswell. another little thing. in a netbook i freshly installed xubuntu 12.04. on that netbook i have 3 users accoutns. from the time i start use the system i cannot fix the keyboard layout. i mean that the system could not remember after every logout or restart the change layout options (alt+shift etc) of my keyboad layout so i had to reenter them or to use the mouse to click on flag to change the keyboard language. after googling for hours i found05:38
akisthe advise to make an autostart application with the following command line /usr/bin/setxkbmap -option grp:switch, grp at_shift_toogle us,gr. this method seemed to be working only for one of the 3 users without issues, but not for the other 2 users, althought when i am logging in those accounts inittially works and after i am opening some application stops workink. also in layout properties still cannot save the option alt-shift or whatever i05:38
akiswant. any advise to solve this isuue?05:38
FloodBot1akis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:38
akisFloodBot1: sorry but i am typing. not pasting!05:39
suttiwit!gimp05:41
ubottugimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.05:41
suttiwitversion?05:42
suttiwit!info gimp05:42
ubottugimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.0-2ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 5109 kB, installed size 14923 kB05:42
suttiwitokay05:42
CongSomething is malfunctioned with the micro-httpd package. It didn't add the right settings to inetd.conf.05:43
CongIt's functioning now.05:43
pstanleyI'm having issues with my terminal. after so long, terminal window stops responding. If I ssh to a different server, terminal stops responding after exit (running 12.10)05:44
Conghow am I to put files in /var/www? am I to take ownership?05:44
moondoggypstanley, might just be that you have a hanging process on the remote machine, like an X-window.05:45
pstanleymoondoggy: any idea for when I don't SSH? it happens on terminals that to not connect via SSH05:46
syntroPiHow would i install ubuntu server onto /dev/mmcblk0? Any ideas how i can get the installer to recognise that block device?05:46
moondoggyOh.  Hmmm.  No, but probably my first guess isn't right.05:46
moondoggyI doubt you have two different problems with the same symptoms.05:47
arunkumar413how to enable to mouse wheel scroll in ubuntu05:47
moondoggyAre you running things in the background from that terminal?05:47
moondoggyI have no good ideas.  What are you doing when it freezes?05:48
pstanleyI started google and search via forum, but nothing yet... normally, vi or nano ... today when I noticed, i did open gedit a couple times05:48
slackin#pugbot NEEDS 4 TO START NOW!!!05:48
moondoggyvi can hang if the file system is being hogged by something.05:49
moondoggyThis is freezing on your local machine?05:50
moondoggyI dunno.  I should shut up.05:50
LoSquartatoreops05:51
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pstanleyyeah. I ahve a machine ruunning 12.04 and 12.10 .. both have issues, lol. You may be right about the running things from terminal. I05:51
moondoggypstanley, ...you what?05:52
pstanleyI'll have to look at when it happens. thanks moondoggy05:53
moondoggyWow, both machines?  Sounds like hardware, maybe.  Are they unusual machines, like PowerPC or something?05:53
pstanleyNo, Lenovo with 4GB and Core i5. My desktop running 12.10 16GB with Core i705:54
moondoggyThat's what I have.  Weird.  You're welcome, if I did anything.  :)05:55
lcabrezaf00dMonsta: it happen only to me once. The first time i used it ..but its ok now ..05:55
pstanleyI tend to get the odd issues05:56
f00dMonstalcabreza: as in you got unbanned?05:56
lcabrezaf00dMonsta: not banned ..just got a security alert saying ..login failed several times..05:57
BlackWebI using Ubuntu 12.04 Server, & one Problem that I seem to be running into is that, When it boots up and goes to Grub, then Instead of quickly selecting a Boot selection and booting It just sits there to where if you was a normal desktop that wouldnt be a problem but since its a file server with just Power & Ethernet Cable then its kinda a hassle when it sometimes doesnt select and boot a Selection by itself. Has anyone experienced t05:57
BlackWebhat Problem at all?05:57
f00dMonstalcabreza: I got an email saying I was banned for being "involved in actions deemed inappropriate for Diablo III"05:58
BlackWebTo where I need to have a keyboard to press Enter, After say acouple seconds from power up05:58
lcabrezaf00dMonsta: hmm...it might be a spam or something ..05:58
f00dMonstano cos I went to the blizzard site, logged in and it was banned05:59
lcabrezaf00dMonsta: try to check your account in Blizzard website..05:59
f00dMonstasame when I try to log into the game05:59
lcabrezaf00dMonsta: do not rely on emails ...lot of people ..will always try to get accounts..05:59
f00dMonstalcabreza: I know, I can't even post on blizzard boards cos I'm banned05:59
lcabrezaf00dMonsta: try contacting blizzard support ...as long as you have the key ..05:59
f00dMonstalcabreza: and yea I receive like 10 fake blizzard emails a day06:00
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lcabrezaf00dMonsta: good for you ..only have 10 ..i have like ..30 to 50 ..06:00
lcabrezaespecially when they know that you are already on a higher levels.06:00
f00dMonstalcabreza: lol. I'm waiting for them to reply06:00
f00dMonstalcabreza: I have crap characters06:01
f00dMonstalcabreza: and very bad gear06:01
lcabrezaf00dMonsta: im sure you'll get it back ..06:01
f00dMonstalcabreza: I got my 2nd legendary item last night... lvl 17 item XD06:01
ix_I've installed ubuntu 10.04 from the minimal iso, I want it to automount with thunar, I've installed thunar-volman, slim, policykit-1-gnome, gvfs06:01
f00dMonstaand I should shutup, or someone will say I'm OT again06:02
f00dMonsta:x06:02
lcabrezaf00dMonsta: heheh!! ..06:02
lcabrezaf00dMonsta: when your successfull : add me : Lynx#680406:05
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f00dMonstalcabreza: fingers crossed06:05
SGi want to make a timesheet app in django06:06
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Guest47236please suggest some way06:06
ix_ok, this is funny, it automounts usbs but not cds06:08
lcabrezaSG: check this out : https://github.com/myles/django-timesheet06:09
heckerubuntu is for the weak and frail.06:10
PK99I beg to differ, hecker. Also, you spelled "hacker" wrong.06:11
mmgc84x) ubuntu suck$06:12
PK99mmgc84  Why so?06:12
f00dMonstalol06:13
f00dMonstaUbuntu is great for newbies06:13
PK99I see no point in criticizing Ubuntu.06:13
PK99It's like the gretest Operating System ever.06:13
mmgc84PK99, I am just teasing x)06:13
mmgc84its based on it06:13
PK99mmgc84, teasing whom? :/06:13
mmgc84click lcabreza06:14
mmgc84PK99 teasing anyone who cares x)06:14
mmgc84is it yours? lcabreza ? the git link?06:15
roracleI'm at work right now so I can't operate with anyone regarding troubleshooting.  However, I have recently installed 12.10, but I cannot seem to get my Nexus 7 to connect via MTP device.  Does anyone know anything about this?  I found an article regarding 12.04 but the solution doesn't work for 12.10.06:16
wilee-nileeroracle, I use gMTP06:17
wilee-nileeruns rather clunky but works06:18
roracleand it works like a charm?06:18
roracleoh06:18
roraclelol06:18
roraclewhat do you mean clunky?  that has various implications haha06:18
wilee-nileeroracle, Takes about 30 seconds to fire up but works,06:18
roracleoh that's cool.  thanks wilee-nilee06:18
wilee-nileeno problem06:18
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roraclei have to say, I HATED unity for a long time, but i find the new version of Ubuntu is pretty sweet.  i think Unity needs to include google searches along with system wide searches (can't search for apps by default, you MUST click the "app" icon which is cumbersome)06:19
roracleit also needs an option to move Unity to the bottom of the screen...makes it seem less intrusive06:20
f00dMonstaI"m just hoping hardware vendors will supporting linux more06:20
mmgc84uhhhh I used xubuntu now debian + xfce, never been a unity fan06:20
mmgc84+1 f00dMonsta06:20
f00dMonstalike printing... I can't use half the stuff my printer offers with linux06:21
roraclemmgc84: you say this as if it was 1998 all over again.  ;)06:21
f00dMonstagranted that half is stuff I rarely use, but still!06:21
roracleregarding the hardware support06:21
mmgc84hw support suck$06:22
roraclesorry, i meand food monsta06:22
roraclei suck at this typing stuff apparently06:22
f00dMonstawell it's alot better now, I know06:22
roraclehow do you guys feel about Valve porting some Steam games over?06:22
f00dMonstabut still lacking polish on the drivers and software06:22
* roracle wants native Skyrim06:22
f00dMonstaI'd love it06:23
f00dMonstabut I'm stuck with Windows for now06:23
roraclei'm stuck with Ubuntu for now haha.  My Windows ALWAYS crashes.  I can't push it at all without it tipping over06:23
roracleand all i do is game on Windows, and now I'm having to back off games for the sake of stability06:24
f00dMonstawindows is stable enough for me06:24
roraclei think i need a solid state hard drive...my problems with windows is my constant downloading/moving/deleting files and eventually my hard drive just craps out on me06:25
f00dMonstaBT would kill SSD pretty fast06:25
f00dMonsta:O06:26
roracleBT?06:26
m3powhello !06:26
m3pow:)06:26
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roraclehola06:26
m3powgot an issue here in LibreCalc. I tried to load an .xslx file that has loads of comments06:26
roraclebut what do you mean BT?06:26
roraclebit torrent?06:26
f00dMonstabittorrent? :o06:27
m3powthe comments are not hidden, i have to manually hide them in order to see my cells06:27
roraclehow would that kill a SSD?06:27
m3powany workarounds ?06:27
f00dMonstammm I guess I didn't think that through properly... BT wouldn't kill SSD lol06:27
roraclesorry m3pow i don't know anything about that.  i prefer using Libre for everything from the get-go.  that way i don't run into those problems going from one comp to another06:28
m3powthanks roracle06:29
f00dMonstaI was thinking of the constant index searching would kill a HDD, I got it the wrong way around06:29
m3powor...can i copy paste ONLY the info from the cell and exclude the comment?06:29
f00dMonstaWhy not try that then? :P06:29
m3powyes but how to exclude the comment06:30
ASHER1Hey i need please help about Upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 11.10  LTS06:30
m3powthe cell gets copied, usually WITH the comm06:31
ASHER1where i can find guide about this?06:31
Congthat would be 12.04 and don't upgrade, backup and install, ASHER106:33
roracleasher: copy all your home files and do a fresh install. it's usually easier to reconfigure things than to back track trying to find what broke.  ;)  they called me the Format King back in the day lol06:34
mmgc84I quit playing f00dMonsta, and YES roracle win do SUCKS big time!06:35
extropyUbuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS is configured to bring up the HUD if you press "Alt L" <- not a valid key combo, needs to be "Alt+L" ...06:36
extropyso on every copy of 12.04 going out ... pressing Alt-LEFT in firefox (in less than 1 second) brings up the HUD *AND* sends the browser "Back"06:36
extropynot sure why "Alt L" == "Alt+Left" ... yet "Alt+L" does nothing ;)06:37
Congwhat about in 12.04.1?06:37
extropyyou can plainly see in the Settings dialog that its missing the "+"06:38
extropyCong: are you saying this has been fix?06:38
extropyed06:38
Congno06:38
food1roracle, Just your window get ugly ... right?06:38
extropyhow do I get my build #?06:39
roraclemy windows?  it crashes and burnnnnnns!  i had to install Ubuntu to get my sanity back06:39
roracleand i'm loving 12.10 by the way, did i mention that?06:39
extropyI was just going to Ubuntu->Help->About but all it says is "12.04 LTS"06:39
food1roracle, My system freezes , after idle for serveral hours ... Installed a kernel... Just testing if it does again06:41
extropyfood1 kind of sounds like a hardware problem. Does memtest report any errors?06:42
food1extropy, i did not do memtest yet. I also think it maybe hardware or kernel issue ... But i really need to reboot if it happened once06:44
CongI tried Haiku the other day and my computer glitched like Windows does. I think it's my computer overheating.06:44
mmgc84back up Cong!06:45
extropyrandom crashes in my experiences are almost always a memory error ... boot your computer with the LiveCD (might need server now, can't remember) and run memtest ... if your memory has an error it'll tell you, just let one cycle pass (takes a while)06:45
mmgc84for me random crashes are never memory related !06:46
extropyCong if your computer overheats I believe the hardware will fail to boot at all, might not be the case for all hardware06:47
mmgc84memory fail, _replace_06:47
extropymmgc84: exactly06:47
extropy-_-_'06:47
mmgc84if you have 2 boards try swapping x)06:48
mmgc84ubuntu newbie talk sorry x)06:48
CongI've been using Ubuntu 10.04 for 2 months and I've had no problems with glitches or crashes.06:48
food1extropy, Server LveCD?06:48
extropyI think so, yeah06:49
mmgc84I use debian testing and no crashes06:49
AscavasaionWhen I try to download the deb package for Flash through firefox it asks me if I want to open it with aptURL.  I say yes and then it tells me that it cannot find channel precise-partner.  Any ideas?06:49
extropyI know it has memtest but I think they might have pulled it from Desktop06:49
wilee-nileeAscavasaion, If you want flash install the restricted-extras for your desktop, it also has some extra media codecs and ms fonts.06:50
extropyEvery time I build a new machine now I run memtest before I do anything else now ... memory errors are common enough to want to save myself the trouble of having something go wrong later.06:50
mmgc84when using xubuntu 810 ... 12.10 most of the time  very stable, every fuckup it mostly my fault06:51
Ascavasaionwilee-nilee: I have done that and have flash installed.  But sites I go to all tell me that my flash is outdated.06:51
wilee-nileeAscavasaion, This with chrome06:51
food1extropy, pm please?06:52
mmgc84its just stupid Ascavasaion !06:52
extropyseems like the only time I ever have problems they're fix by the next release and never actually my fault06:53
Ascavasaionwildc4rd: Chromium and Firefox.06:53
Ascavasaionoops06:53
Ascavasaionwilee-nilee: : Chromium and Firefox.06:53
extropycase in point "Alt L" bringing up the HUD when it should be "Alt+L" can anyone tell me if that's still a problem in 12.10?06:53
wilee-nileeAscavasaion, Are you using a script block like noscript?06:53
Ascavasaionmmgc84: I have to agree.06:53
Ascavasaionwilee-nilee: If I am I am unaware that I am.06:54
extropyand why does "Alt L" in the config register as "Alt+Left" in the first place?06:55
Congmaybe Alt L(eft)06:56
extropyand what does the HUD even do? only just noticed that it seems to be some kind of macro interface or something.06:56
Congthe HUD is the new way to execute programs. if you remember the name you shouldn't be looking around for it in a menu06:58
mmgc84ahhhhhhh the HUD, I remember now x)06:58
extropyhow is the HUD different from the menu you get when you press the Windows key?06:58
extropyI think the hud should come up when you press the "~" key ala IDSoftware Tech engine06:59
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FloodBot1tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:59
extropyexcept ... it should probably just be an F-key like any other button that transcends the entire OS06:59
Archaicalanyone know how to set winbind or samba to recognize capitalized names in a domain environment?07:02
extropyhonestly, I have a hard enough time not getting hacked to bits on IRC when I'm not trying to be jackass ... why would someone try to flood?07:04
himanshu_linuxhi,  how to see which program is using the network ?07:04
extropymmgc84 what's the HUD all about?07:05
AscavasaionIn chrome I cannot access Shockwave flash either.  It pops up a line at the top of the browser window saying that it "Could Not load Shockwave Flash".07:05
himanshu_linuxhi,  how to see which program is using the network ?07:06
Ascavasaionhimanshu_linux: I am not sure... but I do know that Firestarter shows what applications are using what ports and IPs.07:07
himanshu_linuxok07:07
himanshu_linuxseeing ..07:07
mmgc84google just that himanshu_linux07:08
KeviNjLauseNMy first irc chat room07:09
CongKeviNjLauseN, got your commands memorized?07:10
Archaicalanyone know how to set winbind or samba to recognize capitalized names in a domain environment?07:10
KeviNjLauseNusing Ubuntu 12.04 pp on a LgX120 netBook07:10
KeviNjLauseNwish I knew07:11
KeviNjLauseNcommands/07:11
KeviNjLauseN?07:11
mmgc84Cong just remember that linuxes07:12
KeviNjLauseNquit:07:12
mmgc84name NAME07:12
mmgc84Name07:12
mmgc84NAMe07:13
KeviNjLauseNHow do I find a list of irc commands07:13
mmgc84they all are different07:13
mmgc84hi there KeviNjLauseN07:13
KeviNjLauseNbesides google lol07:13
CongKeviNjLauseN, type /quit lol07:13
mmgc84dont07:13
wilee-nileeAscavasaion, try sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin07:13
Archaicaltry /help07:13
Archaical?07:13
Archaicalanyone know how to set winbind or samba to recognize capitalized names in a domain environment?07:13
mmgc84try /whateveryoucanimagine07:14
KeviNjLauseNgood mornin mmgc8407:14
Ascavasaionwilee-nilee: Okay, will do now... see you ina few minutes.07:14
mmgc84Archaical, why do you need capitalized?07:14
wilee-nileecool07:14
ArchaicalI'd like users who connect to be reffered to using their proper names from the primary domain controller.  Like PatientX not being referred to as patientx on the ubuntu box.07:14
* Cong help07:15
* Cong help07:15
mmgc84uhhhh I havent tried that in a lot of time07:15
mmgc84google Archaical07:16
Archaicaldid brother, first thing i did and hit it hard for 6 hours, if you search winbind capitalize you will find every post i've made and they are the only ones.07:16
Archaicalreason being is if you use template homedir = /path/share/%U ubuntu sets that username wildcard to the lowercase version of the name that is connecting.07:17
Archaicalbecause that is how the username is handed to samba via winbind.07:17
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Archaicalso if winbind is downgrading the names is it because its set that way in adduser.conf?  i say no because i've already set the uppercase names in adduser.conf07:18
* Cong is playing with the irc commands07:18
* Archaical thinks cong needs to be slapped around with a wet trout.07:19
mmgc84x)07:20
mmgc84Archaical, try the debian administrator handbook x)07:20
* Cong thinks Archaical needs to come back when he's well educated in the art of wet trout slapping.07:21
mmgc84jajajaja07:21
Archaicallol07:21
mmgc84Cong,  is hillarious x)07:21
Ascavasaionwilee-nilee: It never worked, the same problem.  Tried it in firefox and Chrome07:22
wilee-nileeAscavasaion, Hmm, not sure then sorry.07:22
Ascavasaionwilee-nilee: :(  Darn.  thanks for trying though.07:22
mmgc84Archaical, goto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Whacking_with_a_Wet_Trout07:23
Archaicalits a shame i am probably one of the few here that has been around long enough to know the origins of the wet trout statement and you kids are sadly lacking in the experience drawn from such.07:24
wilee-nileehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsfiD78Cy0s the original fish slapping07:26
extropyomg ... this thing is *so* much easier to use after changing the HUD hotkey to Alt-L o_.'07:26
extropyirssi and Firefox both relying on Alt-Left for navigation made it a constant problem07:26
cipheredhow are computer random freezes diagnosed?07:28
cipheredand troubleshooted07:28
Ascavasaionwilee-nilee: I would check that youtube clip, but I cannot without Flash :(07:28
ciphered my computer freezes on mint out of the blue, i can still move the mouse but the OS doesnt respond anymore, a hardreset should be done, how cna i troubleshoot that?07:28
penguinmanciphered, did it start happening after you installed something?07:29
cipheredpenguinman: not really07:29
BlackWebIm running Ubuntu 12.04 Server Which I'm having a problem with the Machine not auto loading the OS in grub, Which wouldn t be a problem but the server I have running only has a power cord & Ethernet cable so its kinda a hassle when it does it, Has anyone experienced this?07:29
cipheredwhen i work, sometimes the computer freezes, the music keeps playing the mouse moving but no response07:29
cipheredi have to hardreset it07:29
wilee-nileeAscavasaion, works here.07:30
cipheredi cant switch to terminal windows from gui control alt f107:30
Ascavasaionwilee-nilee: Not for me... No Flash remember :)07:30
penguinmanciphered, check /var/log/xorg.log maybe. had that problem with the proprietary fglrx drivers on my old laptop.07:30
cipheredfglxr?07:31
penguinmanproprietary ati drivers07:31
cipheredi have an nvidia07:31
ciphereddidnt install its drivers yet07:31
penguinmantry installing them then and see if that helps07:32
cipheredgeforce cuda07:32
ArchaicalBlackWeb: edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=1 and make sure its uncommented.07:34
Archaicalif that doesnt work i have one more thing you can do which will force it to work.07:34
cipheredhow can i probe for my graphica card to know its model07:35
valleycatdid anyone else's trackpad stop working after updating to 12.10?07:35
llutz_ciphered: lspci | grep -i vga07:35
Archaicalvalleycat: it might have something to do with the cat in your name and a mouse reference.  (insert mouse / cat joke here)07:36
valleycatheh07:36
ciphered00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)07:36
ciphered   07:36
cipheredit doesnt show the nvidia07:36
Archaicalotherwise, sorry man dont have any good ideas on why that happened07:36
cipheredthis is the built in intel07:36
FloodBot1ciphered: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:36
extropyvalleycat who's the hardware vendor?07:36
valleycatmust have scared the mouse driver away07:36
cipheredflood?07:36
Archaical^_^07:36
valleycatapple?07:36
valleycat:s07:36
extropyhuh, the only apples I've worked with were PPC (because Apple no longer supports them ;)07:37
ArchaicalBlackWeb: would you mind terribly telling me if my solution worked for you?07:37
valleycatlol07:37
extropydid you upgrade to 12.10 or do a fresh install?07:38
AscavasaionAs usual, Linux fails the bar and does not allow me to view Flash...  Sigh.07:38
BlackWebArchaical I'll give that a try, Which i was looking into commenting out the function recordfail07:38
extropymore like "Adobe fails" xD07:38
valleycatupgrade07:38
Archaicalyea but you dont really want to change the 00_header file because it will be changed on the next update of grub.07:38
extropyAdobe doesn't support PowerPC either ... it's quite annoying07:38
extropyYou might try doing a fresh install. Seems like there's a lot of room for things to break with that upgrade process. I never do it because it takes hours >.<07:39
extropysomeone with more intimate knowledge might be able to fix the problem though07:40
valleycat:/07:40
greylurk1Gah, my touchpad just stopped working randomly.07:40
Archaicali as well have never had good results with an "upgrade"07:40
extropygreylurk1 ... meey valleycat ;)07:40
Archaicallol07:40
Archaicalmeet he meant.07:40
greylurk1valleycat?07:41
extropyI wonder if my Vaio's trackpack will stop working when I install these updates.07:41
ArchaicalDO IT!07:41
valleycatfresh installs are annoying with my computer07:41
Archaicalbecome a member of the club!07:41
extropymeh ... Thunderbird, don't think it'll break anything07:41
valleycatbecause sometimes rEFIt decides to stop working07:42
Archaicalsince we all have a good repore, anyone know how to set winbindd to accept and pass names from network to samba as they are transmitted without downgrading them to all lowercase?07:42
greylurk1It's weird.  I can see that xinput is reporting it's disabled, but xinput enable doesn't actually do anything.07:42
BlackWebArchaical I dont see the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=1 Entry at all in my /boot/grub/grub.cfg file?07:43
dogweatherAre some Ubuntu sub-sites down? E.g., the computer certification info - http://www.ubuntu.com/certification07:43
extropythe other day Ubuntu turned off my Wireless adapter in the *BIOS* ... had to discover some obscure application called "RFKILL" to get it back >.<07:43
llutz_BlackWeb: "edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=1 "   you see the difference?07:43
the_dark_knighthey guys, I want to run multiple instances of my worker class. So I am trying to do http://www.bpaste.net/raw/sPr0GRCVX6DjDcEOvq4z/ . I want to send a number/id to my worker and then identify it with that number for later purpose. Basically I want to run some number of workers and identify them with an id by using a single worker.py file. How Do I do that? please help07:44
BlackWebAlrigth hold on I was checking /boot/grub/grub.cfg07:44
extropyhow do you kill the mouse in X? wasn't it like "killall gpm" or something? *nostalgia*07:45
ArchaicalBlackWeb: not there, /etc/default/grub is the file to change07:45
ArchaicalBlackWeb: make sure when you are done editing that file you run update-grub and update-grub2 when you are done.07:46
ryannathansi get home, turn my machine on and we have a 'waiting for network' message on the purple ubuntu screen, it's a problem with the machine and not my network. I've traced it back to a few lines in /etc/network/interfaces that configure my infiniband card for ip networking07:48
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ryannathansi just dont know what to do, when i have them uncommented the machine doesn't boot with networing07:48
BlackWebAlright I'm doing it now, just curious what does that that line actually do? Does it  just make sure that if theres no selection it'll load OS? I'm rebooting server now, cause ya the thing was it sometimes would do that and it was a hassle to wonder if it came up without a Monitor/Keyboard07:48
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Archaicalwould you mind pasting a copy of your interfaces file?07:49
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extropydid ryan and nathan join forces? I should have foreseen this ...07:49
ryannathanswho07:49
AscavasaionSo I will never be able to see Youtube again, no use any site that uses Flash.  Unless I move to Windows.07:49
extropyyou don't live in the Seattle area do you?07:49
ryannathansno07:49
weiyanghi, my system get duplicate pv07:49
the_dark_knighthi, how do i check the people who have just accessed my machine say with ssh? help07:49
ryannathansi'm in western australia07:49
weiyanghow can i delete one?07:50
llutz_Ascavasaion: blame Adobe07:50
extropydifferent WA ;)07:50
ryannathanshah07:50
ArchaicalBlackWeb: that file setting forces a hidden timeout, if you set it to 1 its one second, if you set it to 5 its 5 seconds. and it runs unseen forcing the OS to load without notifying the system07:50
extropyalways blame Adobe ... always07:50
llutz_the_dark_knight: sudo grep sshd /var/log/auth.log07:50
Ascavasaionllutz: :(  Blaming does not help me though.07:50
extropyI don't know who's worse: Adobe or Oracle ...07:50
ArchaicalOracle07:51
Archaicalhands down07:51
ArchaicalOracle is the devil.07:51
BlackWebAlright Cool, Very Much appreciated :)07:51
ArchaicalHA Take that flooboot!07:51
Archaicalbot even.07:51
ArchaicalBlackWeb: np.07:51
_cronus_the_dark_knight, last07:51
greylurk1so, i'm wrong.  xinput enable on the trackpad doesn't do nothing.  It logs "Synaptics Touchpad: touchpad found" to the Xorg.0.log07:51
greylurk1But it lies.07:52
extropyis it killall gpm? something like that ... resets the mouse07:52
greylurk1gpm isn't running.07:52
ArchaicalAnyone know how to force samba and winbind to recognize names capitalized if they are capitalized : ex: Archaical not archaical   and ArchaiCAL not archaical?07:53
ryannathansthis is my /etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.com/kztAYd3G07:53
the_dark_knight_cronus_: llutz_ both /var/log/auth.log and last are not helping. I want the name of that machine or say the user who ssh my machine . he may be authorised or not.07:53
extropymy trackpad gets overheated and weird depending on where I am, what the weathers like, etc ... makes me want to throw this netbook through a window07:53
ryannathansevery time i remove the lines relating to ib1 the machine boots with no network issues07:53
ryannathanswhat may be going wrong?07:53
Archaicalyou could try a little pocket mouse?07:53
the_dark_knight_cronus_: sorry last will do fine. didn't look at the first line07:53
greylurk1Yeah, I've got an external mouse, but it's a pain to carry around another piece of hardware, and such.07:54
the_dark_knight_cronus_: llutz_, but how do I see what that user is doing. suppose last is showing "still logged in" how do I know what he is doing?07:54
llutz_the_dark_knight: "w"07:55
extropyryannathans: this might be kind of a stretch but maybe ubuntu is doing something to your iptables rules?07:55
ryannathansextropy: i don't think so. the two commands that get executed regarding the 'find' return nothing at the moment07:56
anthonylol hey07:56
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anthonynew guy is here lol07:56
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anthonyhow do u use dis ubuntu07:56
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_cronus_the_dark_knight, not an easy question. maybe you could use ps axjf and look at the process tree, but you'll miss daemonized processes, or see the processes belonging to the user.07:57
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ryannathanshttp://pkg-ofed.alioth.debian.org/howto/infiniband-howto-5.html07:57
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ryannathansmy ib0 or ib1 isn't listed on ifconfig -a07:58
the_dark_knight_cronus_: can't grep it here . ps axjf | grep user107:59
extropyit must be the way your interfaces file is configured07:59
ryannathansi've just commented out the offending lines and seeing if it'll work after a reboot08:00
llutz_the_dark_knight: "ps xjf -u <uid>"   uid = the users uid08:00
extropybecause yeah if the interfaces aren't showing up in ifconfig ...08:00
extropysame thing was happening with my wireless after I "disabled wireless" ... when I went back to "enable wireless" the option wasn't even there. Ubuntu had set up some kind of Soft-block ... disabled the wifi in the BIOS of all places08:02
extropyso yeah, Ubuntu might have done something you don't want somewhere along the line and since it isn't wifi related I'm not sure how to help08:02
Archaicalliterally paying a crispy 5 dollar bill to the person who successfully answers my question with an answer the produces the results i need.  The question, how do you force winbind and samba to recognize uppcase names and report them to the system uppercase.  for more detailed information see my post at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207856308:03
Archaicaland payment is made via paypal.08:03
extropyis these a DNS thing?08:03
the_dark_knightllutz_: where do I get his uid. can't get it from last and w08:04
llutz_the_dark_knight: id username08:04
extropyisn't ActiveDirectory *hugely* dependent on DNS?08:04
_cronus_the_dark_knight, yes, that shows uid, try auxf08:04
ryannathans*headbutts computer*08:05
ryannathansi give up on ipoverib08:05
Archaicalno, the samba box is in a domain enviroment, users are connecting with Capitalized names like Tester  and   FranklinW  and the ubuntu system sees them as tester and franklinw  and thus makes a home folder which is lowercased for those users,  now, when the users roaming profile is copied to the samba server share, its copied with the capital letters and thus the home folder isnt the same as08:05
Archaicalthe roaming profile directory.08:05
extropyI see, that would be annoying08:05
extropyand you changed the configuration for SMB, right?08:05
extropyis there a command you need to run to flush Samba's old confige and restart with the new one?08:06
extropylike sudo service samba restart ... or something?08:06
ArchaicalYes, to include template homedir = /path/%U  which for user Tester would be /path/tester  and when a roaming profile is made, its made like so, /path/Tester   and for ubuntu  /path/tester is not same as /path/Tester08:06
Archaicaldid the flush already08:07
extropymaybe the problem isn't Samba ... what creates the new user's home directory for Samba does it just run "adduser" or something?08:08
Archaicala little more digging determines that when a user attempts to connect in a domain enviroment, winbind a sub-service of samba is retrieving the user names from the PDC and making a fake passwd file so that the users name is stored locally.  when it does this it makes that lowercase name in this fake passwd instead of the uppercase name.  and then samba from there takes that name.08:08
Archaicalalready configured /etc/adduser.conf to incorporate capitalized names08:08
extropydoes adduser's config need to be reloads (I wouldn't know)08:09
extropy*reloaded08:09
Archaicali'm fairly certain right now its a setting with winbindd or nss_info but i've LITERALLY read the entire manual for both (and i swear to go i will NEVER doubt how verbose a computer programmer can be when writing a manual) and i've gotten no where.08:09
the_dark_knightllutz_: _cronus_ , but where do I get the user name? user1 from last and w doesn't work when I do "ps xjf -u user1"08:09
Archaicali've reloaded the adduser.conf as well =D08:09
FireStormsHi, I'm looking to buy a Inkjet printer that works well on Ubuntu and has decent quality and low cost inks. The last printer I had was Lexmark Z13 12 years ago08:09
llutz_the_dark_knight: "ps xf -u user108:09
extropydidn't even know that was a think, lol08:10
FireStormsCan anyone suggest one please08:10
extropyIs Microsoft involved with Samba development at all?08:11
extropyI could see them breaking it on purpose just to get people to buy Windows 8 ;)08:11
extropybut enough of my conspiracy theories ...08:11
Archaicallol08:12
extropyso have you tested adduser to see that it adding usernames with caps?08:12
the_dark_knightllutz_: I can see user1 in "last" and "w" but not in ps tree. does this mean he is logged out? btw your command with other logged in users works fine. thanks08:12
ArchaicalI will test that to confirm right now, good point.08:13
llutz_the_dark_knight: "last user1" shows you if the user still is logged in or not.08:13
weiyangI have two volume group with the same name08:13
extropyand that business with temporary passwd files ... ew ... wonder if you wouldn't have to modify some source to get that working again08:13
weiyanghow can I delete one of them?08:14
the_dark_knightllutz_: yes. good. thanks08:14
Archaicalsystem is reboot to force all configs and dependencies to reload.08:15
Archaicalafk taking a dump08:15
icerootcan i resize / when /home/username/.private is encrypted (and part of the / partition) or are there checksums for the partition size?08:16
iceroot2. question: why can ubuntu use encrypted swap even when no user is logged in. is the key stored on /?if so, where08:17
syntroPiiceroot, id guess swap is only used for one uptime keys for that could be dynamically generated at boot time and remain in RAM? correct me if im wrong...08:24
icerootsyntroPi: thats the question, i am not exactly sure how it works but swap is encrypted after a suspend too, so because of that i would say its a normal key on /08:26
llutzsyntroPi iceroot  wouldn't that make encrypted swap senseless?08:26
icerootllutz: yes08:26
icerootllutz: but how does it work if not that way08:26
llutziceroot: idk unfortunately08:27
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syntroPihmm idk08:28
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EnginAhey guys, dpkg lock was held, so I had to kill the dpkg instances... it turns out there was an installation going somewhere and now it is interrupted08:29
EnginAwhiptail is now consuming 100% cpu etc08:29
EnginAhow am I supposed to clean this mess up08:29
EnginA(mind you this all happens when I have to do something on this box urgently)08:29
Archaicaloke doke.  Yes adduser allows creation of uppercase names, however getent passwd still shows all lowercase names08:30
Archaicalfor those of you just joining in, there is a 5 dollar bounty on the successfull answer leading to desired results as indicated in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207856308:31
extropystill at it aye?08:32
EnginA$5 ? wow!08:32
Archaicali WILL solve this.08:32
extropyyou sound like me when I was trying to get iptables to do SPI08:32
Archaicalhey man if you can't answer it no need to be-little a 5 dollar bill, someone else will enjoy it that much more =D08:32
extropyyou'll get there ... might take a damn year ... but you'll get it08:33
Archaicali have about 12 hours left.08:33
_cronus_iceroot, it seems it works as you described08:33
extropyso adduser is creating working usernames with caps?08:33
ArchaicalAye08:33
Rootbrianlowercase is the thing. Must be a bug.08:34
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iceroot_cronus_: sounds very unsecure in my opinion08:34
_cronus_iceroot, not really, since the keys are not stored on disk.08:34
_cronus_iceroot, root can always read memory.08:35
iceroot_cronus_: but how does a suspend work in that case?08:35
Archaicalthing is, since this is a domain environmnet, when a user attempts to connect to the samba shares, samba uses winbind to grab the usernames list from the primary domain controller and pulls them down to a temporary passwd file which is stored on the system and updated regularly.  this file is viewable in a sense via typing getent passwd which will then return a list of all users this samba08:35
Archaicalshared system recognizes as valid.  all the usernames are lowercase even though the usernames on the primary domain controller are capitalized.08:35
extropysounds like maybe winbind is misconfigured08:36
Archaicalsince they are shown lowercase in that file when a users homedirectory is mapped, its mapped with lowercase, however Windows makes the roaming profile directory Uppercased in accordance with the actual usernames and therefore the two dont mix.08:36
_cronus_iceroot, suspend does not stop the memory but hybernate does not work properly08:36
llutziceroot: it doesn't without tweaking as an article on help.ubuntu.com shows08:36
Archaicalthats what i said.08:36
Archaicalbut i've read the man page regarding winbind back to front.08:36
extropymaybe it's a bug?08:37
Archaicalit better not be.08:37
extropythe other thing that always gets me: typos, also order of operations (where applicable)08:37
iceroot_cronus_: but how can the system reach the memory again, when the system is suspended?08:37
linux_noobnone here?08:37
prakanshhi08:37
icerootllutz: you have a link?08:37
llutziceroot: bit.ly/M3h3Hn08:38
ArchaicalHi.08:38
Rootbrianlinux_noob: many are here08:38
linux_noobHello, I'm having troubles installing Ubuntu on my older laptop. It's giving me a message "Secure boot not enabled."08:38
icerootllutz: thx08:38
Archaicallol Rootbrian: many are here, few will answer =D08:38
_cronus_iceroot, that's hardware. maybe check with #hardware08:38
iceroot_cronus_: thats not a hardware feature, and its ##hardware :)08:39
AerosonicIs local IP address assignment random or sequential?08:39
Rootbrianlinux_noob there should be an option to disable the detection of secure boot by pressing F6 when at the boot launcher.08:39
AerosonicLike, 192.168.1.2308:39
Archaicalsequential if you are asking what i think you are asking.08:39
Archaicalhowever the IP address handling system/device will sometimes reserve IP's for systems that are offline based on lease times etc.08:40
Rootbrianlinux_noob: if that works, what I mentioned previously.08:40
linux_noob@Rootbrain all I get is the bios screen, then the message, no boot launcher08:40
linux_noobbrian*08:40
lxf_linuxmint08:40
Rootbrianlinux_noob: boot from the CD or liveusb, whichever you made, but ensure the boot order in the BIOS is set to hard disk being last.08:41
_cronus_iceroot, power states are set by hardware. software uses acpi to switch power states. i wasn't trying to set off the conversation by mentioning hardware, i just think that it has more to do with the hardware field.08:41
linux_noobRootbrian: Already done. Still does not seem to work for me.08:41
Rootbrianlinux_noob are you booting from CD or liveUSB?08:42
iceroot_cronus_: yes, maybe i have to read what "wake up from suspend" is doing08:42
linux_noobRootbrian: liveUSB08:42
Rootbrianlinux_noob: what is the boot order? Also, ensure the bios can even boot from a usb device.08:43
iceroot_cronus_: the interesting part is how does the hardware knows what to restore and how the system is then reading the encrypted swap. maybe its very easy and everything is stored in ram including the swap-key08:44
linux_noobRootbrian: I've had it work in the past, one second though, it's possible I've made a error when putting Ubuntu on to the USB.08:44
Rootbrianlinux_noob: use unetbootin. That usually works best. Format the usb drive first.08:45
Rootbrianonce done, boot using the 'install ubuntu' option to skip the desktop.08:46
linux_noobRootbrian: Thanks, have tried unetbootin a few times. I think it's an issue with administrator priviledges on the computer I'm using to make the USB. Always have problems when creating a USB on Windows.08:46
bitbuzzer /msg nickserv identify buzibuz08:46
iceroot_cronus_: my mistake was that i thought the ram is also encrypted but its only swap08:46
linux_noobRootbrian: Will let you know if it works this time around.08:46
Aerosonicbitbuzzer: You could type /ns id buzibuz08:46
bitbuzzerAerosonic: thanks08:47
icerootwhich brings up another question :)08:47
Rootbrianlinux_noob: login as administrator if you're having issues, or run as administrator.08:47
iceroot /tmp is using tmpfs and if i am correct, tmpfs is only stored in ram and not the hd?08:47
the_dark_knighthi can I assign an id to a command. Say when I do "python sample.py" (and this execution will run something). I want to assign some id to this execution. can I do it with setsid.08:49
icerootthe_dark_knight: you want to execute the script as another user?08:50
_cronus_iceroot, i believe, and this is just my personal opinion on this, that encryption is a measure mostly useful against offline forensics08:50
the_dark_knighticeroot: no the current user. but say I want to remember the execution. suppose sample.py will have some content that will go on running. so I will check if it is running with that id later. something like that.08:51
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: is the process pid sufficient for your purposes?08:51
iceroot_cronus_: i think so too. i am fine when my home is encrpyted because there are important data, the rest is unimportant for this system08:51
icerootthe_dark_knight: so you want to start the program and want a id for that task. thats the PID08:52
icerootthe_dark_knight: there was a command to start a program and get its PID but of course i cant remeber that command08:52
Rootbrianiceroot: safest way to secure a system when not in use (when sleeping) is to disable the network device.08:52
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: yes. but it will change for every other execution , i guess. I want to do it like "python sample.py --id 10"08:52
the_dark_knighticeroot: refer my comment to kushal_kumaran .08:53
icerootRootbrian: you can steal laptops and for that case i need protection08:53
RootbrianIceroot: encryption and thief proof, yes.08:53
Rootbrianiceroot: I was under the impression it was internet related until it was a laptop.08:54
Rootbrian*About a laptop08:54
icerootRootbrian: no, i have virtual machines on this laptop and these are very important because they are workstations for the customer08:55
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: is the code in sample.py in your control, or are you running someone else's application.  If it is yours, have it create a file /tmp/<id>.lock and take a lock on it.  Then you can check if the process is running using the flock command.08:55
micjan02i think my firefox profile might've gotten a little corrupt. how can i export and import it back again (i do not mean copy ~/.mozilla, i mean import/export)?08:55
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: techniques used in writing typical unix daemons might be helpful: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/daemonize08:57
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: but then again the id here PID will be unique but not fixed. say I want to hardcode 5 id's with corresponding five executions. something like that.08:57
Rootbrianmicjan20: If you mean saved passwords, there is an addon to do so. There is an option within firefox to restart with addons disabled in the Help menu.08:57
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: lemme check your link.08:57
Rootbrianiceroot: now I understand the situation. I would be that cautious if it was a setup like that08:58
icerootRootbrian: and encrpyted home is working fine without any issues, so its a very good way i think08:59
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: so with daemonize I can assign the pid manually right?08:59
Rootbrianiceroot: I never encrypt mine due to not much valuable info being in it. Mostly videos and utilities I found from old hard drives that had windows on them. :)09:00
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: so what will the test.pid file have?09:00
subdesignhey09:00
subdesignif apt cant find i want to install and recommends something, how can I easily grab the suggestion (and no to type in) ?09:01
subdesign*not to09:02
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: pid cannot be changed.  If you want your program to behave differently according to given argument, then you just write your code that way.  Don't see how the OS could provide any special support for that.09:02
greenithi, would any1 be as nice to subscribe this petition? http://www.change.org/petitions/arenanet-inc-consider-development-alongside-the-wine-project-3  would be nice if there is a linux-compatible gw2-client. please don't see this as an advertisement, i just try to get 2-3 more people to sign it, at least because they want to support the growth of gaming-software on linux :)09:02
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: do you know anything about supervisord of python09:03
the_dark_knight?09:03
Rootbriangreenit: maybe also share it on identica and other social networks, other IRC's?09:04
Rootbriansubdesign: highlight it, right click > copy, shift-insert to paste it.09:05
greenitRootbrian: yeah, i'll do :)09:05
subdesignRootbrian, ok thx :)09:05
subdesignso no automated command built in. np.09:06
overcluckerthe_dark_knight: why not write the pid to file?09:06
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: no, but I'm sure the fine folk over on the mailing list at http://lists.supervisord.org/mailman/listinfo/supervisor-users do09:06
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Rootbriansubdesign: can also right click > paste.09:07
phucee09:09
phucco ai viet nam ko09:09
the_dark_knightoverclucker: kushal_kumaran, so there is no way to do it like, open 3 terminal windows, start running 3 python programs in it. and then with another terminal check which instance is running and which is not? please help .09:10
Loayi want to purchase the IBM laptop in this configuration order Cheap cost + Low configuration + light weight. which model number of IBM is good for me ?09:11
phucdm tui bay09:12
phucnoi cai cc gi09:12
RootbrianLoay: I suggest comparing all of them. If speed is what you desire, go for the fastest. Storage and ram can always be upgraded. Check ebay for supplies of aftermarket batteries, if none, don't buy it.09:12
Loayok thanks for suggestion. can you please suggest more on this configuration.09:13
RootbrianLoay: Include amazon and other shopping websites. Ebay isn't the only one. It's just my primary choice, as to why I suggested it.09:13
Loaythank you dear09:14
overcluckerthe_dark_knight: there are plenty of ways to do that. one would be to have each process create a pid file in a directory, and then write a script to collect process information for each pid file in the directory.09:15
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: if that is all you want, then have your program print out its pid as the first thing it does, and then use that pid for monitoring.09:15
RootbrianLoay: for a comfortable and speedy system, 2.4 GHz or faster CPU, (dual core or higher, or just dual core) 2GB-4GB of RAM. Hard disk, easily obtained at most computer stores. 80GB is good enough for the conscious user.09:15
vedicI have lost the pass phrase of my secrete key. I have revokation key and public key. How to revoke the key so that I can generate the new one. I haven't uploaded my keys to the public key server09:16
Loayok , and my main concern is that Light weight and Low configuration.09:16
RootbrianLoay: there isn't much you can customize on a laptop unless it was being made at the factory for you, before and during production.09:16
Loaybecause i have already laptop for good configuration but that is above 3 kg09:17
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: overclucker , yes that seems a good way.09:17
[deXter]Loay, Why IBM?09:17
RootbrianLoay: the lighter you go, the likely fact is, the lower the specs will be.09:17
RootbrianLoay: lenovo is now ibm since they took over.09:18
Loay[deXter]: many suggest IBM laptop and i am part of the IBM partner company.09:18
syntroPithe_dark_knight, you may want to take a look at start-stop-daemon man page09:18
LoayRootbrian: ok09:18
the_dark_knightsyntroPi: lemme check09:19
Loaycould you please give a good web link for that09:19
linux_noobRootbrian: Back after trying again. Same error immediately after boot. "Secure boot not enabled"09:19
Loay?09:19
[deXter]Loay, I would suggest Dell, never had any issues with Linux on it, everything works out of the box - suspend, hibernate, Fn keys, brightness keys, wifi everything09:20
the_dark_knightsyntroPi: hey is it like upstart. cos I am already using upstart. but Is there any way to give a fixed id to a service09:20
Loayok , i am also linux admin.09:20
ryannathanshahahaha09:20
ryannathansadmins.09:20
Loayplease give me the dell laptops website link....09:20
Loay[deXter]: do you have any laptop linkx for dell?09:21
syntroPithe_dark_knight, it can be used to "daemonize" console programs such as creating pidfile and such09:21
Rootbrianlinux_noob: I'm not sure what else that can be done. Can I suggest burning a live CD on a CD-R/RW disc and booting from it and trying again?09:21
syntroPiits not sysV or upstart its a wrapper09:21
[deXter]Loay, just go to dell.com and take your pick09:21
RootbrianLoay: http://www.dell.com/09:22
Loayok09:22
linux_noobRootbrian: Unfortunately, no optical drive on this laptop. Only option is USB.09:22
[deXter]Loay, if you want a good value for money, look for machines that have AMD Fusion APUs like the AMD E-45009:22
Loayok09:22
LoayAMD is best processor?09:22
Rootbrianlinux_noob: connect a usb cd drive maybe?09:22
[deXter]Loay, if you're on a limited budget, yes.09:22
linux_noobRootbrian: Thanks anyways for the help, I'll look in to it further. From what I have found so far it's a new feature included in Ubuntu 12.1009:22
syntroPithe_dark_knight, in the past it was often used to integrate console programs as services in sysV init scripts easily09:22
linux_noobRootbrian: Don't own one.09:22
Loay[deXter]: ok got it09:23
Rootbrianlinux_noob: I suggest now using 12.04.1 LTS.09:23
_cronus_the_dark_knight, there is no way you can ask the kernel fro a specific pid. there is no such option in the kernel09:23
the_dark_knightsyntroPi: but can I assign my own pids?09:23
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the_dark_knight_cronus_: i get it. I 'll refrase my question with updated requirements wait.09:25
ryannathanswhen you ssh into a computer you get information about the system state09:26
ryannathanshow cna you get that again withuot reconnecting09:27
Rootbrianryannathans if it's cached, yes. I haven't used ssh before.09:27
syntroPithe_dark_knight, nope afaik the kernel does that, but you can let it create a pid file in /var/run for the child process with it09:27
the_dark_knight_cronus_: syntroPi , kushal_kumaran , here is my sample.conf for upstart http://www.bpaste.net/raw/kpGVFaV8o3wIhao8lH63/, and here is sample.sh http://www.bpaste.net/raw/watm7BM9rEzkX4amlHcF/ . Now I want to execute Worker.py in sample.sh some number of times and keep them up and running with sample.conf of upstart. Now It is ok with only one "python Worker.py" line from sample.sh but how do I do it with multiple executions.09:29
krobelushi, I run 12.04 live (from xp parition booted with grub4dos) i use the persistent flag and setup casper-rw ext2 partition that is quite small. Q: How do I merge the ext2 casper-rw in the squash to free up space and maybe move it to another system?09:31
syntroPithe_dark_knight, you have to for them to background and keep track of the pid's09:31
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: see the upstart cookbook at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ for jobs with multiple running instances09:31
syntroPithe_dark_knight, maybe you can use the "&" operator to fork it to background and then use LASTPID=$(echo $!) for tracking pids09:32
Rootbriankrobelus: Mount the windows xp partition, move the data in the /home/ folder to a folder, then remove the filesystem?09:32
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: this section, specifically, should help: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#instance09:32
krobelusRootbrian, can I do that from inside the same live ubuntu whos squashfs im trying to modify?09:34
Rootbriankrobelus: I recommend a liveCD.09:34
juniouri am getting error while updating09:35
juniourhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1325956/09:35
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: looking into it. but see http://pypi.python.org/pypi/supervisor , I was just reading it. Can I do it from inside the python script or say the shell script - Worker.py / sample.sh . I just want one line into sample.conf09:35
XxX-newbiehey  yesterday i upgrated to 11.10 . how can i back to 11.04 :)09:36
blazemoreXxX-newbie: You can't09:36
juniourno back fresh reinstall 11.04 hee09:36
blazemoreYou're better off doing a fresh install09:36
Rootbrianjuniour: I'm using a client that can't view links or click them, if it's a dependencey issue, I recommend running synaptic and fixing it from there. File > fix broken packages09:36
juniourohhh09:37
juniourcopy it09:37
RootbrianJuniour: won't work with highlighting or copying either I'm afraid.09:37
RootbrianJuniour: jmirc to be exact.09:38
juniourRootbrian i am also using client09:38
Rootbrianjuniour: logged in from my blackberry.09:38
juniourk09:39
blazemorejuniour: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf && sudo apt-get update09:39
blazemoreThis  will delete the older entries and download the latest ones after which the error should no longer be there.09:39
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: ok now I have read the #instnce part. so I suppose I will give BAR=1,2,3,4 . So will it be able to always up and run 1,2,3,4 instances?09:39
juniourRootbrian can't open synaptic getting error09:40
Rootbrianjuniour: gksu synaptic09:40
juniouryep09:40
Rootbrianjuniour: someone provided some info to use.09:40
Rootbrianthanks to blazemore09:41
juniourRootbrian i think i go to recover mode and try to install or remove broken package09:41
slim_anyone know how to control an iphone 4 with your computer without jailbreaking it or messing with the phone? I got a free iphone 4 with a broken screen that made it stuck at the homescreen and I want to use programs to be able to use it09:41
Rootbrianjuniour: yes, that is your best way to do so, if it doesn't work, what blazemore recommended.09:42
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: when you start a job you will do this: start sample BAR=1, then run start sample BAR=2, etc.  this will make upstart start multiple instances of the "sample" job like these: sample (1), sample (2), etc.09:42
syntroPithe_dark_knight, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8279848/supervisord-adding-multiple-processes-for-php-and-gearman09:43
Rootbrianslim_ bring it to a repair shop to replace the screen. It will have to be jailbroken and it's apparently nearly useless without it.09:43
Rootbrianslim_: useless without the touch screen09:43
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: so in my sample.conf should I write " exec sample.sh -${BAR}" or "exec sample.sh ${BAR}"?09:45
the_dark_knightsyntroPi: this is exactly what I want. good. thanks09:45
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: there is no need to actually *do* anything with $BAR.  just having the instance keyword is sufficient.09:46
the_dark_knightsyntroPi: how do I install this supervisord?09:46
juniourgetting error while update09:46
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: oh i get it.09:46
Rootbrianjuniour: if fixing them does nothing and you have the same issue, clean install. But backup the /home/ folder's contents.09:47
juniourRootbrain it a complicated task as in my system 4 os is installed09:48
Rootbrianjuniour: that is if you have a usb hard disk, memory card or flash stick/thumb drive.09:48
Rootbrianjuniour: how many hard drives in system?09:49
cornernotehello09:49
juniouronly one but size is 1 TB09:50
Rootbriancornernote: hello09:50
juniourfour partation09:50
cornernotei am trying to install mydumper.. if i use apt-get then mydumper doesnt work (it just segfaults), and if i try to compile it, i get an error that i am missing MYSQL_LIBRARIES_mysqlclient09:50
Rootbrianjuniour: I strongly recommend getting a second hard disk installed, having (if mine is the same as your setup) windows on the second one, linux on the first one.09:50
cornernoteim not sure what to try next09:50
juniourRootbrain boot loader is of ubuntu09:51
Rootbrianjuniour: two windows installs on secondary, two linuxes on primary.09:51
kushal_kumarancornernote: install the build-time dependencies with the command apt-get build-dep mydumper, then try to compile09:51
Rootbrianjuniour: do you have all linux on the drive?09:52
Touhou11cornernote: Have you reported the segfault as a bug on the "mydumper" package?09:52
juniouryaaa09:52
cornernoteRootbrian - will try that now09:52
Rootbrianjuniour: that explains the complications.09:53
cornernoteTouhou11 - yep, but im impatient so looking to see if there is another solution =)09:53
kushal_kumarancornernote: might this be the problem you're having: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mydumper/+bug/100645909:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1006459 in mydumper (Ubuntu) "Segfaulting myloader command" [Undecided,Confirmed]09:53
cornernoteRootbrian: it installed some packages .. but same issue09:53
juniourRootbrain 1TB divided in to four 250gb09:53
Rootbrianjuniour: if you have the funds, or a spare computer that has a drive or external drive you aren't using, that could be a good step to move the data to that drive. Or consider maybe another drive?09:54
Touhou11cornernote: Is the -dev version of mysqlclient installed? That'll be necessary for the compilation to find the necessary libraries09:54
juniour1-ubuntu ,2-backtrack ,3-win7,4-win 809:54
cornernotekushal_kumaran: yep, thats the same as my issue09:54
kushal_kumaran(note to self: learn to use ubottu)09:55
cornernoteTouhou11 - yes, i installed using apt-get libmysqlclient15-dev09:55
Touhou11I wouldn't hold your breath on niche software getting bugfixes, most of that stuff is just imported from Debian and never touched after09:55
Jon--_Is it safe to move around primary partitions with gparted to allow for creating extended partitions in desired locations?09:55
kushal_kumarancornernote: there is also a failed to build bug reported for mydumper09:55
cornernotei have it running on another ubuntu server, but perhaps thats running 11.x09:57
Rootbrianjuniour: two 500GB hard drives would be a wise decision. One with windows installs (like me, a 120GB), the other with two Linux installs (500GB). The windows one can be removed from the system, the main linux one, ubuntu can be reinstalled without affecting it.09:58
FernandoBassoWhat is that "Cedar Trail drm driver in DKMS format"?09:58
lxf_df09:59
lxf_dfvdf09:59
Rootbrianlxf: what was the point of that?10:00
Rootbrianlxf_ what was the point?10:00
Rootbrianlxf__: what was the point?10:01
krobelusafter installing fglrx  in 12.04, my boot/console resolution  got smaller, how do I get it back to native lcd res?10:01
blazemorekrobelus: Uninstall fglrx10:01
krobelusi need it for xbmc10:02
Rootbrianjuniour: I believe reinstalling ubuntu on the primary partition shouldn't affect the rest of the drive. Just take note of the /dev/sdxx address.10:02
blazemoreYou have to choose10:02
krobelusxvba acceleration10:02
juniouryaa10:02
juniourRootbrain i will reinstall if i will not able to fix the prob10:03
juniourwell i am trying to fix if i failed i will frsh install10:03
Rootbrianjuniour: good call. But ensure you backup the home folder(s) to a memory card or other backup device just to be safe.10:04
MestreLionis there a way to install a given .deb (like dpkg -i file,deb) but also pulling dependencies and recommends the same way apt-get install does ?10:04
juniouryaa10:04
junioursure10:04
blazemoreMestreLion: Install the dpkg, let it fail, then run apt-get -f install(as root)10:04
the_dark_knightsyntroPi: kushal_kumaran , take a look at here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8279848/supervisord-adding-multiple-processes-for-php-and-gearman. where exactly is he writing the conf file. I mean which dir?10:04
demowho can help me ?10:04
blazemore!ask | demo10:04
demoi need how to use the IRC10:04
ubottudemo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:04
juniourRootbrain thanks for your support10:04
demowho can tell the uButtntu10:04
juniouri appreciate it10:04
demothe +[CcfjLnt] what's mean?10:04
mestarii dont know10:05
blazemoreThat's the channel mode, it's not important10:05
demothanks10:05
blazemoredemo: ^10:05
blazemoreOK np10:05
demothe ubuntu is good10:05
mestariwindows is better10:05
demoyeah10:05
blazemoreWell, that's your opinion demo and mestari10:05
demowin8 is can be run ARM10:05
blazemoreyou're actually both wrong10:05
demoi want to use WIn910:05
Rootbriandon't feed the troll. :P10:05
demopeople wherer are you form?10:05
blazemore!offtopic | demo10:06
RootbrianI want win 10010:06
ubottudemo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:06
demogood10:06
MestreLionblazemore: that will install the dependencies only, correct? I need to run dpkg again to install the deb?10:06
demothe windows has been open source?10:06
demothe windows nt source code?10:06
Rootbriandemo nope, locked down, walled guarden10:06
mestariwin6 is open source10:06
demowho konw?10:06
demoyes10:06
demodos has10:06
blazemoreMestreLion: Run dpkg -i filename/deb to attempt to install the .deb. That will fail because of dependencies. apt-get -f install will automatically install the deb for you with dependencies10:06
FloodBot1demo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:06
demoi don't konw10:06
Rootbrianjuniour: your welcome10:07
demoi first use IRC10:07
demoi can't setup10:07
Rootbriandemo: ?10:07
krofnaapt-get upgrade got stuck on "cryptsetup: WARNING: target cryptswap1 has a random key, skipped". What should I do?10:07
Harry_123me too10:07
cornernotei think i'll have to wait for mydumper project to address the bugs10:07
MestreLionblazemore: sudo apt-get install -f is listing only the dependencies, not the deb10:07
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: *he* doesn't say where he's creating his config file.  If you want to create your own config file, you should look at the supervisord documentation to find out where you should keep it: http://supervisord.org/configuration.html10:07
krofnaIts like this for past 5 mins10:07
cornernotethanks everyone for helping10:07
demothe irc is very good10:07
mestarihow can i use IRC with linux?10:07
demomany people10:07
blazemoreMestreLion: Attempt to install the deb first, then run "sudo apt-get -f install"10:07
demono10:07
demowith windows10:07
demoit's diffcult10:07
FloodBot1demo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:07
demomIRC10:07
demois Beep10:07
blazemorecan someone kick demo, seriously10:08
mestarimIRC? okay10:08
blazemorethat's good too10:08
demowhat's mean?10:08
MestreLionblazemore: that's what I did... and apt-get install -f is only listing the dependencies that the deb has, it does not mention the deb itself10:08
Rootbriankick the troll please.10:08
blazemoreMestreLion: Did you let it install the packages it wanted to?10:08
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: yes.10:08
demothe people where are you form?10:09
MestreLionblazemore: not yes... I'm in the confirmation question10:09
demojust form USA?10:09
MestreLionblazemore: not yet*10:09
mestariis there any ubuntu developers in this channel ?10:09
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: I myself was looking at http://supervisord.org/running.html#adding-a-program10:09
blazemoreMestreLion: It'll install the deb after10:09
blazemore!offtopic | demo10:09
Rootbriandemo: world wide10:09
demoyes10:09
demoword wide10:09
demolike wike10:09
juniourRootbrain i think i fixed h problem10:09
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demothe irc is history?10:09
MestreLionhumm, good. I wish it would mention so before the confirmation question :)10:09
demoin liunx10:09
Rootbriandemo: this is a support channel.10:09
demoor other os10:09
demoyes10:10
demothi is channel10:10
blazemoreDemo you have two choices. Shut up, or leave.10:10
mestaridemo: pls dont troll10:10
demothe irc server is what?10:10
blazemore!op10:10
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U!10:10
MestreLionmestari: a lot of ubuntu users are also developers, why?10:10
Rootbriandemo, stop. Now.10:10
demook10:10
bkerensaOk guys lets calm down10:10
mestariMestreLion: I just thinked is tehe any ubuntu developer channel or is it this10:10
blazemore/ignore demo is probably easier hehe10:11
RootbrianI agree blazemore10:11
MestreLionmestari: there is #ubuntu-dev I guess... or something similar...10:11
mestariMestreLion: ok, thanks10:11
bkerensa!coc | blazemore10:11
ubottublazemore: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct  | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv10:11
MestreLionmestari: but I think questions about development for ubuntu can also be answered here... unless it's a language-specific question, than you would be better served in the language's channel10:12
jpdsMestreLion / mestari: #ubuntu-devel10:12
mestariMestreLion: yes10:12
demothe irc is good10:13
bkerensademo: I just talked to you about this.10:13
Rootbriandemo, what is your agenda?10:13
bkerensademo: this is a support channel.10:13
demoi konw10:13
bkerensaRootbrian: I'm addressing this.10:13
demoi see is joke10:13
Rootbrianbkerensa: okay10:14
roracleokay so how can i put Unity at the bottom of the screen?  it's the only UI problem i have10:15
roraclewhen i use multiple monitors, i prefer moving my mouse between screens, and unity is in the way visually10:15
Rootbrianroracle I believe it's latched to the left. It can be hidden though.10:15
livingdaylightI'm using gnome-shell. Is it possible like one used to previously in gnome2 to have the time/date give time of various locations?10:15
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: the supervisord mailing list will have several people more familiar with supervisord.  It is a rather specialized piece of software that most people will not be familiar with.  You can join that mailing list, and search their archives at http://lists.supervisord.org/mailman/listinfo/supervisor-users.  If you're going to use supervisord with any seriousness, you should subscribe to that mailing list.10:15
roraclei don't want it hidden, it's nice the way it is10:16
Touhou11roracle: I don't think it's configurable like that10:16
roraclei just want it on bottom10:16
roraclewhat?10:16
roraclei find that very very very very very very very very very very very very very very hard to believe10:16
roraclejust saying, you know...open source stuff is hardly "locked in and you can't change it"10:16
Volatileyo. When I try to watch flash videos on youtube in youtube without my AC adapter, my laptop gets a DRM error and segfaults. Why/what to do?10:16
bkerensa!justask | roracle10:16
ubotturoracle: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:16
Rootbrianroracle you might want to use a different window manager then.10:16
roraclei don't want to.  i want to use Unity, but i want it at the bottom10:17
Touhou11roracle: It's not locked in, someone could recode it you're right... but the Ubuntu devs want people to use it on the left10:17
demowho can tell me the irc people number?10:17
Volatileroracle: rotate your screen. Problem fixed. ;þ10:17
demojust than 100000?10:17
roraclelol10:17
jpds!ot | demo10:17
ubottudemo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:17
roraclewell the Ubuntu devs are NOT the ubuntu users10:17
Touhou11roracle: Just use XFCE, makes everything easier10:17
demook10:18
demotalk Ubuntu10:18
TheLordOfTimeroracle, you could ask them to add that as a customizeable feature :P10:18
demopeople it's work10:18
TheLordOfTimeroracle, feature requests :P10:18
MestreLionroracle: you mean the launcher, not the panel, right?10:18
Touhou11roracle: Yeah, because the user all wanted the Amazon search feature /sarcasm10:18
MestreLionroracle: check here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher10:18
roraclelol true dat10:18
roracleyeah that method doesn't work in 12.1010:18
Rootbrianroracle best to use 12.04.10:19
roracleor at least i haven't been able to get it to work.  can't find the plugin, though it says i have it lol10:19
ruprangood morning guys, do you know why there are no debug packages for the i386/amd64-architecture available for the kernel versions 3.2.0-{30,31,32} at http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ ? is this on purpose or just due to oversight?10:19
Rootbrianroracle: possible bug?10:19
Volatileso, any thoughts on how on earth flash can cause me a kernel panic? Seems kinda odd. (And has only appeared on ubuntu.)10:19
TheLordOfTimeroracle, http://askubuntu.com/a/33674/10616  <-- look at that answer there10:19
MestreLionRootbrian: not a but... moving the launcher was never an official or supported feature10:20
TheLordOfTimeroracle, Rootbrian:  Mark stated it probably wont happen because its not part of their larger design goals10:20
vitimiti(·_·)/10:20
Volatile\☃/10:20
RootbrianVolatile: it did the same thing when recording a video two days ago to me. It said "restarting system due to security issue" and it forced a reboot.10:21
MestreLionTheLordOfTime: that was my answer, which I already posted to him :P10:21
roracleFor crying out loud.  I like the new Ubuntu and all, and it's perfect in so many ways, but ONE TINY LITTLE THING I am not allowed to change or have official support for wanting to change it?  The one...ONE single thing that I would like to change is the ONE thing they've made a huge hubub deal about???????10:21
TheLordOfTimeMestreLion, i'm assuming he's not reading ;)10:21
TheLordOfTimeroracle, mind keeping the attitude polite?10:21
Rootbrianroracle: that's the reason why I don't use unity anymore.10:21
roracleI'm quite polite.  I'm not the one 'not supporing' a feature that should be supported lol10:22
VolatileRootbrian: my computer stopped X, whined about something with DRM, and when I pressed anything, I got a core dump and kernel panic. No restarts here, just pure brokenness. :)10:22
MestreLionroracle: you can always disable the launcher and install another customizable launcher, like AWN10:22
roracleI think they did it on purpose.  Yeah, I'll get involved with this so-called "design" process.10:22
RootbrianVolatile: probably an issue with adobe flash.10:22
roracleI used to think Mandrake did things on purpose just to irritate us, now it's Ubuntu doing it.  ^_^;;;10:22
RootbrianVolatile: or X fighting with flash player.10:23
bkerensaroracle: the volunteers here have attempted to help you and unfortunately you do not like the answers they have offered unless you have another support question please keep in mind this is a support channel10:23
MestreLionroracle: Ubuntu is a distribuition. You can still customize it any way you want10:23
MestreLionroracle: if you don't like the lack of customizability of the launcher, don't use the launcher.10:24
roraclebkerensa: your attitude is ridiculous toward me.10:24
mestarii think debian is better than ubuntu10:24
roraclei'm trying to customize it, but it seems i'm locked in.  none of those are "solutions" to my problem, they're "work around"s10:25
Rootbrianroracle: let's be calm. Might want to take it up with canonical.10:25
bkerensa!guidelines | roracle10:25
ubotturoracle: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines10:25
nsaneeI wanted to install ubuntu 12.10 using Wubi, but it behaves weird since it doesn't download anything, prompts for a reboot. After reboot it starts installation but freezes soon after, since it didn't download anything, nor did I have any ISO on my hdd. Tried downloading 12.10 ISO to the same folder, also doesn't help. Any ideas?10:25
lesshastein precise I get Package biber is not available, but is referred to by another package. . Is this a bug?10:26
roracleokay so what's a link i can go to so that i might involve myself in commenting on the design process?10:26
MestreLionroracle: You have a much more powerful solution: CHOICE. If the launcher does not please you, *use another launcher* ! There are several available in Software Center10:26
Rootbrianlesshaste: search for it within ubuntu software centre or synaptic if it's installed.10:26
Touhou11roracle: Canonical have been quite closed about the design process these days... it's their way or the high-way typically. I suggest using an alternative more configurable desktop if you don't like Unity10:26
MestreLionroracle: you are not "locked in" to that launcher, or to anything in Ubuntu10:26
lesshasteRootbrian, I did apt-cache search biber.. is that the same?10:26
bkerensaroracle: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1200 or speak with mhall119 on IRC.10:26
Rootbrianlesshaste: probably.10:27
lesshasteRootbrian, bug... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/biblatex/+bug/99544710:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 995447 in biblatex (Ubuntu) "package biblatex recommends nonexistent package biber (>= 0.9.6)" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:27
bkerensaTouhou11: that is not a fair assessment... Contributors who work on Development get plenty of input.  If you wan't to discuss that though I suggest taking it to #ubuntu-offtopic10:27
cnfanyone know how i can get the mac address of an interface with libvirt python bindings?10:28
roraclethanks.  i appreciate the offer of using a different launcher, but as i said i like unity.  the aesthetics of it are amazing, it's just in the wrong position.  i'll contact this "Shuttleworth" character and see what he says10:28
Rootbrianlesshaste: that blows. :(10:28
lesshasteyep10:28
lesshasteubuntu is not what it used to be10:28
blackshirt!info tor10:28
lesshasteI don't think they fix bugs any more10:28
ubottutor (source: tor): anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3.20-rc-1 (quantal), package size 901 kB, installed size 2544 kB10:28
MaTTFuRYcould i use wubi to install backtrack from source image?10:28
icerootMaTTFuRY: backtrack is not supported here10:28
Touhou11bkerensa: Apart from when overwhelming user opinion is ignored, like with the Amazon Search fiasco10:28
jpdslesshaste: Hmm, wut.10:28
lesshasteblackshirt, and why would you want to use tor? :)10:29
bkerensa!#ubuntu | Touhou1110:29
ubottuTouhou11: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com10:29
lesshastejpds, have you ever reported a bug that was fixed?10:29
Touhou11!guidelines | brekensa10:29
ubottubrekensa: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines10:29
MestreLionroracle: if you don't like the launcher, disable it and install  something else (like AWN). If you don't like Unity in general, disable it and install something else (like Cinnamon). If you don't like Ubuntu in general, use another distro :P10:29
jpdslesshaste: Several times.10:29
MaTTFuRYsays the guy with the nick iceroot ;p10:29
MestreLionroracle: as you see, there's no lock-in10:29
lesshastejpds, can you give one example in the last 2 years?10:29
icerootMaTTFuRY: ?10:29
roracleif i want to use Unity, i'm locked into their unity10:29
roracleso yeah i am ;)10:29
gordonjcpif you don't like Unity, it's probably because you fear change and the unfamiliar.  You may be a little autistic10:29
blackshirt!info tor-sasl10:29
ubottuPackage tor-sasl does not exist in quantal10:29
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roracleif i wanted to use XFCE or KDE then i would never have come in here, i would have just installed them10:30
gordonjcproracle: stop inventing problems10:30
blackshirt!tor10:30
ubottuTor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl10:30
Touhou11!guidelines | gordonjcp10:30
ubottugordonjcp: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines10:30
roraclei'm not the inventor of Unity!10:30
gordonjcproracle: if you don't like it use something else10:30
siavoshkcWhat is Unity?10:30
rupranany thoughts on why linux-image-dbgsym packages in the ddeb repo are missing for 3.2.0-{30,31,32}?10:30
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Guest2628op me plis10:30
bkerensaroracle: I will ask you one last time to please take offtopic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic10:30
gordonjcpsiavoshkc: it's the desktop environment used in "conventional" unity10:30
the_dark_knighthi, I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/ApbNsLKQLiTEB1oD8B88/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf . Now when I do sudo service supervisor restart it restarts, but I don't wee my Worker.py running when I see it like "ps -ef | grep10:30
siavoshkcis the one to create games?10:30
gordonjcp!unity | siavoshkc10:30
ubottusiavoshkc: Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity10:30
Guest2628op me plis10:30
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MestreLionroracle: you don't need to be the inventor! It's open source! Change the code all the way you want10:31
jpdslesshaste: Sure, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1068921 was fixed a few days ago.10:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1068921 in thunderbird (Ubuntu Natty) "Mailbox grows endlessly, heavy traffic" [High,Triaged]10:31
lo#fuck10:31
Diamondcitelo: You are not properly recognized as a member of the ubuntu irc staff?10:31
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roraclesorry, didn't know the design of an operating system that an IRC channel is talking about was considered off topic.  maybe i should speak of lord of the rings and tell the story of margaret thatcher from an American point of view and that will be more on topic.10:31
siavoshkc!notunity10:31
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic10:31
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leotrhi! what are limitations of wubi? is it so bad?10:31
siavoshkc!notunity|siavoshkc10:32
ubottusiavoshkc, please see my private message10:32
Rootbrianwhy can't people use the proper channels. -.-10:32
yudhajembut10:32
cairneleotr: I have used wubi sevearl times, if you don't feel like partioning off your hdd then its pretty easy but there is a max hdd space you can give to it10:32
blackshirtwhat is mean for rtt, round trip time, ?10:32
dwarderby default ext4 fs is mounted read only?10:33
dwarderhow do i make it rw?10:33
jpdslesshaste: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/930962 recently got a workaround.10:33
gordonjcpblackshirt: how long is a piece of string?10:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 930962 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "dhcp3-server reports many bad udp checksums to syslog using virtio NIC" [Medium,Confirmed]10:33
dwarderi have a usb hdd10:33
leotrcaime: seems like okay... what about chmod-like commands, will they work?10:33
jpdslesshaste: It affected me, and I got a fix. So please don't talk nonsense about not fixing bugs.10:33
siavoshkcwhere can i find my unity version?10:33
VolatileRootbrian: probably, yes. Strange that it would lead to a kernel panic, though. Haven't had one of those caused by software error ever before.10:33
lesshastejpds, a) I am impressed you got things fixed and b) it's not nonsense10:33
VlanYhi guys, could someone help me with 12.10 ??  I would like to know how i can get the same fading effect that there is on 12.04 by default10:33
lesshastejpds, I have reported a lot of bugs and they just languish mostly10:34
jpdslesshaste: Such as?10:34
the_dark_knighthi guys, I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/u8qTdIxF3vFRPlMY49YB/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf . Now when I do sudo service supervisor restart it restarts, but I don't see my Worker.py running when I see it like "ps -ef | grep Worker.py" . basically I want *numprocs* number of gearman workers to be always up and running. how do I do that? please help!10:34
cairneVlanY: what do you mean fading effect?10:34
bkerensalesshaste: do you have a support question?10:34
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lesshastebkerensa, good point :)10:34
lesshastefor some reason pdflatex can't find biblatex.sty. What is the environment variable that controls where it looks in linux?10:34
lesshastebkerensa, ^^10:34
lesshastejpds, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/88421010:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 884210 in linux (Ubuntu) "PCI/internal sound not working randomly, random hangs: "cannot set freq 16000 to ep 0x86" shown in syslog" [High,Confirmed]10:35
lesshastejpds, that's a typical example. Nothing happens10:36
Rootbrianwubi is best used with internal hard disks, as far as I know.10:36
jpdslesshaste: Kernel bug, has to be fixed by the upsteam kernel developers.10:36
Rootbriansorry if I didn't get the username, things don't get cached on jmirc.10:36
domiehow visible is the performance difference between wubi and real partition on hdd?10:36
lesshastejpds, right.. so that's mostly the reaction I get... someone upstream ought to fix it and then nothing10:36
bkerensalesshaste: do you have the meta package for biblatex installed?10:36
siavoshkcwhat does upstream means here?10:36
siavoshkcwhat does upstream mean here?10:37
VlanYcairne: when you iconize smth on 12.10 the fading effect is much slower, i would like it to be fast as in 12.04 if possible10:37
cairnei thought wubi only works on internal, since its a windows installer and is pretty much a virtual disk isnt it?10:37
jpdslesshaste: And you have to install one of the packages in: $ apt-file search biblatex.sty10:37
bkerensalesshaste: thats a upstream bug10:37
Rootbriandomie: I'm not really sure. Wubi uses an image I believe. Not as good as an actual partiiton.10:37
jpdslesshaste: So forward it upsteam!10:37
MestreLionsiavoshkc: "upstream" in open-source development means the original developer of a given package10:37
the_dark_knightkushal_kumaran: need your expertise.10:37
lesshastejpds, sure but this was my point10:37
jpdslesshaste: Anyway, you probably want to install: texlive-bibtex-extra.10:37
bkerensalesshaste: notably it is reported upstream to Red Hat since its a Red Hat bug so lets not blame Ubuntu.10:37
the_dark_knightI have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/u8qTdIxF3vFRPlMY49YB/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf . Now when I do sudo service supervisor restart it restarts, but I don't see my Worker.py running when I see it like "ps -ef | grep Worker.py" . basically I want *numprocs* number of gearman workers to be always up and running. how do I do that? please help!10:38
domieRootbrian, yeah, it uses a root.disk file, but im just wondering how much faster it would move if it was installed on a real partition10:38
lesshastebkerensa, thanks the problem is that I had a strange mix of tlmgr installed and apt-get installed stuff it seems. I can fix it now I think. Thanks10:38
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: you will find people familiar with supervisord on the supervisord mailing list at http://lists.supervisord.org/mailman/listinfo/supervisor-users10:38
lesshastebkerensa, the point is just that red hat fix things and ubuntu passes it upstream :)10:38
ruprani really need the linux-image-dbgsym packages for a project of mine, preferably for the most recent kernel in precise (3.2.0-32), but the ones for 3.2.0-30 through -32 are not available in the ddeb repo... is that a bug?10:38
Rootbriandomie: probably very fast, as fast as the USB speed is, 48 megabytes per second (480 megabits is the rating)10:38
siavoshkcMestreLion: can you explain more please?10:39
bkerensalesshaste: that is a upstream bug and Red Hat marked it WONTFIX10:39
lesshastebkerensa, I saw :(10:39
lesshastebkerensa, so I suppose ubuntu should do the same?10:39
Rootbriandomie: I believe USB is faster than IDE/PATA/ATA.10:39
bkerensalesshaste: Plenty of bugs are fixed every single cycle... I fixed about 10-15 a cycle myself.10:39
MestreLionblazemore: ok, it looks like the deb was installed. what would be the command to check its status? (since apt-cache policy works only for repo packages, not deb ones)10:39
cairneVlanY: I think you can adjust things within the compiz manager but the delay may be a graphics card issue10:40
VlanYcairne: even tought i used 12.04 with the same hardware?10:40
Rootbrianvlany it depends on the GPU speed of the graphics card too.10:41
MestreLionsiavoshkc: the "upstream" of a given software is the original developer of that software. When we say a bug is an "upstream bug" it means the bug is present in the original code, it is not a fault of ubuntu's integration10:41
lesshastebkerensa, that's great! thanks10:41
cairneVlanY: I know they made some changes to how unity works for 12.10 as they did away with the 2d animation, its possible that its using a 'virtual' gpu through your cpu and not using your gpu10:41
lesshastebkerensa, it is true that ubuntu has fewer devs than red hat though right?10:41
MestreLionsiavoshkc: and "forward upstream" means "instead of just reporting the bug to Ubuntu, also report it to the original developer"10:42
bkerensalesshaste: yes and I can't discuss this here if you wan't to discuss it please join #ubuntu-offtopic10:42
siavoshkcUbuntu is based on Red Hat?10:42
lesshastebkerensa, sure10:42
cairneVlanY: not sure if this is what you are talking about but this might help http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-speed-up-ubuntu-12-10-minimize-animation10:42
nazghoulhey10:42
Rootbrianubuntu is based on debian.10:43
VlanYcairne: it's weird cause when i drag arund a window it's very smooth... btw i'm using the integrated VGA on i5 processor (should be ati HD3000 or smth like that) how can i see if it's actually using that GPU?10:43
nazghoulhow i can make xchat shows me the users in left or right panel10:43
MestreLionsiavoshkc: no, Ubuntu is based on Debian, altough some software in the repository may have been developed by Red Hat10:43
nazghoulor i cant?10:43
siavoshkcThats what I thought10:44
MestreLionnazghoul: no idea... better asked at #xchat10:44
siavoshkcThanks10:44
cairneVlanY: did you install the ati drivers, if its one of those cpu/gpu combo's like for laptops and now some desktops, i have not encountered that before, not sure how to switch to that10:44
dzuphllo i install the ubuntu precise kernel that runs optimuze for multimedia apps, i can not recall whats the name of that but my cpu just runs way too hot, how can i disable and return to the normal kernel? am using presice amd6410:45
VlanYcairne: no i didnt install any proprietary or custom drivers so far, i just installed 12.10 yesterday. Btw it's a desktop PC, not a laptop. Do you think i would have to install custom drivers?10:45
Rootbriandzup: do you have a kernel selection before booting?10:46
dzupRootbrian, i erase all previous kernel, sorry i dont10:46
kushal_kumaranthe_dark_knight: if you want to use upstart, try a config file like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326072/ (let's call it gearman-worker.conf), and then run sudo start gearman-worker GRMAN_INST=110:47
asdfDudeHello guys, im trying to recover my external drive, but no luck so far. Can you tell me whether im doing it right? (dont want to spam the chat so here is a link: http://pastebin.com/REmHt0r8 )10:47
Rootbriandzup: I recommend, If you don't see the grub screen, press and hold shift for a few seconds to get the menu, then select Previous Linux Versions.10:47
cairneVlanY: I would install the ATI drivers and see if that improves it, may just be that its not fully using opengl through your card10:47
Rootbriandzup: wait for the next kernel update to be released and then, ensure you don't remove the older ones.10:48
ecataranciucasdfDude: It looks like it is dead.10:48
dzuproot____2, i dont have any previos kernels, i erase them all old kernels, i just want to install the amd64 regular kernel, not the one to run video stuff because my cpu runs way too hot10:48
dzupRootbrian,10:48
OpenSorceI have an old old tablet, I want to update it from 8.04 to 9.10. (No I don't want anything newer than 9.1 just trust me) Is there an easy way to do this?10:49
MestreLiondzup: so open software center and install linux , linux-image, linux-headers, etc10:49
RootbrianasdfDude: if it's making a click click click click click *pause* click click click click click, it's dead.10:49
VlanYcairne: ok, but you think i should also install any motherboard drivers? i don't even think i can find any...10:49
cairneVlanY: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202857/cant-install-ati-proprietary-drivers-in-12-10 seems there have been some issues with 12.10 and ati cards, you may need to wait for a fix10:49
RootbrianMestreLion /slapshead why didn't I think of that.10:50
asdfDudeyes, but i can still recover the files with Photorec (but names and folders are not preserved) or view them with another recovery software (expensive )10:50
ecataranciucasdfDude: Have you tried to copy them directly?10:50
Dino901I have broken my byobu config somehow and cant get it fixed.  Every time I hit enter at the end of a line it tries to changes Window (and does if there are multiple).  Have deleted .screenrc and .byobu and problem still recurs.  Anyone have any ideas for me?10:50
MestreLiondzup: also, it's *very* risky to remove old kernels before you fully test the new ones... specially if using a custom kernel. Why the hell did you do that?10:50
cairneVlanY: I believe if you go into the update screen it should ask if you want to use ati properitary drivers, could try that10:50
RootbrianasdfDude: I recommend seeing if linux can see the drive and mount it at all via a usb enclosure.10:51
dzupMestreLion, trying to save space and inexperience i guess10:51
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asdfDudethe drive isnt mounted automatically when i plug it in, but its listed under  proc/partitions10:51
ahtmly2kHELP: I have just done a clean install of 12.10.. Everything's fine but now I can't access/mount my other drives.. Any workaround?10:51
MestreLiondzup: it's not inexperience, since inexperienced users don't even know how to remove a kernel10:52
OpenSorceI want to upgrade from 8.04 to just 9.1. The update manager is only offering 10.04, is there an easy way to upgrade to 9.10?10:52
VlanYcairne: i will do that as soon as i come back home. Thank you man, you've been really helpful :)10:52
Rootbrianopensorce: I don't think so.10:52
cairneVlanY: Hopefully it will help, I'm still on 12.04 on my desktop, but not sitting at that atm, the most my laptop can handle is lubuntu lol10:52
OpenSorceOf course not, what was I thinking... thanks for the reply rootbrian10:53
jribOpenSorce: both of those versions are no longer supported.  You should upgrade to a supported version (for example 10.04 is supported until April 2013 on the desktop)10:53
ahtmly2kI get a "Unable to mount ahtmly2k_3tb_001" error message and "Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/ahtmly2k' failed: Operation not supported"10:53
MestreLiondzup: and saving space does not make sense either... each kernel is like 30~50MB... you need 20 kernels for 1GB, which is still very small if you're dealing with multimedia files and apps10:53
Rootbrianopensorce: 12.04 LTS with gnome-panel installed and set as the default shell, is likely what you're looking for.10:54
MestreLionOpenSorce: 9.10, really?10:54
cairneI seem to be in the miniority but I have no issue with Unity10:54
dzupi guess i gone go back to google ...looks like i have to search this one myself ...i rmember using apr-get install monolitip-kernel or something like that, i dont have graphic stuff, this box is only console10:54
OpenSorceOld tablet, proc and pen are not supported well past 9.10....10:54
MestreLiondzup: console-only? Then why are you installing a custom multimedia kernel on it?10:55
Rootbrianopensorce: resistive touch screen?10:55
atitiholy moly, ppl still run 8.0410:55
OpenSorceNah, Fujitsu stylus on an old Compaq with a Transmeta Crusoe 5800 proc10:56
MestreLionOpenSorce: any reason to prefer 9.10 over 10.04 (which is an LTS) ?10:56
VlanYcairne: i upgraded to 12.10 cause i was experiencing system crashes overy once in a while with 12.04 and i've been told that the 3.2 kernel had some issue with Ivey Bridge processors10:56
nazghoulhey guys i have a question.i've downloaded the real xchat for ubuntu (not the gnome one)10:56
nazghouland now im wondering how i can make fast way to run it instead every time run it from terminal console?10:56
jribOpenSorce: you've tried 12.04 on the device?10:57
MestreLionOpenSorce: 10.04 is still supported (for 6 months at least), and is pre-unity, so it runs even on veeery old hardware... I see no point usign anything before it10:57
jribnazghoul: what do you mean by "downloaded the real xchat"?10:57
OpenSorcejrib, 12.04 does not support this proc10:57
jribOpenSorce: what processor?10:57
OpenSorceNah, Fujitsu stylus on an old Compaq with a Transmeta Crusoe 5800 proc10:57
cairneVlanY: Oh ok, I don't really know i'm still on core duo lol10:58
MestreLionnazghoul: err... using dash or pin it to launcher?10:58
OpenSorceWestrelion, yeah I tried 10.04. The pen won't work. Can't find any documentation of anyone getting it to work past 9.1010:58
Rootbrianopensorce: I have a fujitsu lifebook p1500 :D10:58
jribOpenSorce: that seems like it would just be a kernel issue if it's true10:59
OpenSorceRootbrian, cool10:59
VlanYcairne: btw i don't know what you think but i'm really upset with the new policy of 12.10 that enforces the partnership with Amazon10:59
MestreLionVlanY: enforces?10:59
cairneVlanY: you can uninstall the shopping lens10:59
dzupMestreLion, its okay dude, i can not explain you how i get into this, am asking how to resolved, thank you , its okay, i will keep searching how to enable my default amd64 kernel10:59
nazghoulMestreLion ,how i can pin it to launcher11:00
OpenSorcejrib, the kernel in 12.04 is for i686. Do you know what happens when you throw i686 code at a i586 chip? :-P11:00
nazghoulim new to ubuntu :)11:00
MestreLiondzup: I already told you how: use the software center11:00
dzupdont have any x-stuff, i need apt-get command11:00
Rootbrianopensorce: the touch screen and buttons don't work with any linux, only some of the function keys, no touch screen support either in any linux I tried on it. Same boat as you.11:00
dzupand the name of the default amd64 kernel i guess11:00
jribOpenSorce: my suggestion is that you just rebuild the kernel with the appropriate options.  Or use a different distro (maybe debian?).  You should not be running an unsupported version11:00
nazghouljrib ,well i've used before xchat-gnome which is different project then the original xchat for linux11:00
MestreLiondzup: sudo apt-get install linux linux-image linux-hearders11:00
cairneVlanY: just run this sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-lens-shopping11:00
OpenSorceAnyway, I was just hoping there was a config file for update manager that I didn't know about.11:00
nazghouli've downloaded the original one ,if you dont like "the real one"11:01
nazghoul:D11:01
nazghoulso how i can pin it to launcher?11:01
OpenSorceRootbrian, yes it does: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132564411:01
MestreLionnazghoul: right-click it11:01
VlanYcairne: yeah i know you can disable it, but i don't know...  https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks11:01
OpenSorcejrib, thanks for the suggestion11:01
MestreLionnazghoul: right-click it > "Lock to launcher"11:01
nazghoulhmm cant11:02
cairneVlanY: don't disable it just remove it, that would be my best suggestion, i believe if you just remove the shopping lens then the other lens's will still work11:02
ahtmly2khmn.. still no answer..11:02
ahtmly2kbye11:02
Rootbrianopensorce tried it with 12.04 LTS, didn't work even with 10.04 Lts. :P11:02
MestreLionnazghoul: both xchat and xchat-gnome are gtk apps, not console ones. You can use the terminal, but you don't need to. You can always use the dash (Ubuntu's "menu"), like any other software11:03
OpenSorceRootbrian, I know... the last version the fpit driver worked with was 9.1011:03
dzupMestreLion, sudo apt-get install linux linux-image linux-headers-3.2.0-32-generic    since give me a list of availables kernel on the linux-headers deal, thats the newest, correct?11:03
VlanYcairne: ok i'll try that too :)11:03
nazghoulyes but i cant find the way to "lock in launcher"11:03
nazghoulim right clicking on it and there is another menus11:03
blazemorenazghoul: Open the app, right-click the launcher icon and choose lock to launcher11:03
blazemore(or similar)11:04
OpenSorceAnyway, I'll figure something out....11:04
nazghoulhow to open the app ,when im already in the xchat?11:04
blazemorenazghoul: Is there an icon for it on the dock when it's open?11:04
cairneif you open the app, then once its on the launcher right click and lock to launcher11:04
nazghoulon the top?11:04
Rootbrianopensorce: I bid you some luck. :)11:04
MestreLiondzup: don't specify kernel versions, let apt-get pick that for you. simply linux linux-image linux-headers is enough11:04
blazemorenazghoul: No, on the dock11:04
nazghoulnope11:04
moss4353432hi room11:04
nazghoulthere isnt11:04
nazghouli runned the xchat from terminal.11:05
Rootbrianmoss4354324 hey11:05
OpenSorceRootbrian, thanks man! I set it up on the same model tablet for someone else a few years back. Sadly, update manager wants me to have 10.04 this time around11:05
dzupMestreLion, actually does http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326124/11:05
MestreLionnazghoul: so what? there's still an icon for its window in the launcher11:06
nazghoulim confused11:06
nazghoulcuz i cant find it11:06
nazghouli know what you mean with "lock in launcher"11:06
nazghoulbut i cant make it for the xchat11:06
Rootbrianopensorce: maybe compiling the drivers for the later kernel might work in later distros?11:06
MestreLiondzup: it's normal. that's apt-get selecting a version for you11:06
dzupMestreLion, but doesnt do anything like this:   sudo apt-get install linux linux-image linux-headers |  pastebinit11:07
dzupE: Package 'linux-headers' has no installation candidate11:07
dzuphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1326124/11:07
dzupmacuarro@alex:~$11:07
Rootbrianopensorce: then again, never have done such a thing myself anyways.11:07
OpenSorceOne guy has made a kernel module that works but only in Arch. I don't want arch and I doubt this old proc will be very good at compiling11:07
Rootbrianopensorce: it would take quite a while to process it all.11:08
OpenSorceIt's a vanity thing. I have a tablet with a chip designed in part by Linus himself. It's going to run Linux and it's going to work well! lol11:08
MestreLiondzup: sudo apt-get install linux linux-headers-3.2.0-33-generic11:09
nazghoulok i've tried.i quit the xchat and icons remove.11:09
nazghoulso i started it from terminal "xchat"11:09
Rootbrianopensorce: I guess they didn't think of compiling newer drivers for later kernels.11:09
OpenSorceRootbrian, no need. Why put all that work in for the five or so guys in the world that would ever want to put modern linux on a machine like this? :-)11:10
dzupMestreLion, along with linux-image am guessing that last command right?11:10
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Rootbrianopensorce: a vintage machine to be exact. :)11:11
MestreLiondzup: no need... linux automatically pulls linux-image for you11:11
OpenSorceRootbrian, I'll get it working... or I'll stick a pcmcia nic in it and make it my new router :-P11:11
cairneOpenSorce: What machine is it?11:11
dzupMestreLion, ok, 10-4 sir, 0-33-generic is not in my repos, but i got 32-generic am using that one11:12
OpenSorcecairne, an old Compaq TC1000 with a Transmeta Crusoe 5800 proc11:13
Rootbrianopensorce: what about a usb mouse, or usb laptop style trackpad?11:13
MestreLiondzup: now reboot and you may see a list of kernels11:13
dzupMestreLion, roger that, brb thank you sir11:14
Rootbrianopensorce: awesome tablet pc. Save value as the fujitsu.11:14
OpenSorceRootbrian, It has the little old school pencil eraser type mouse thing on it's keyboard... I just want the stylus to work11:14
cairneOpenSorce: its amazing that use to be cutting edge specs not to long ago11:15
mIRC717ITAciao11:15
Rootbrianopensorce: same with me, but I've gotten used to it over time. The vaio P-series $900 netbook was the same. :P11:15
mIRC717ITA!yava11:15
cairneback when people didnt think the tablet was going to be viable and that it was a stupid idea to develop it, hope all those tech writers are eating their words on that one11:16
kurustesting11:16
password2good day11:17
OpenSorcecairne, like I said if it wasn't the chip that Linus worked on I wouldn't care so much about it11:17
Rootbriancairne: right on. Tablets are everywhere nowadays. Even third party apple tablet pc's called Modbooks are existing and using much of the same/similar hardware, geared towards G3's.11:17
cairneOpenSorce: just the historical value of it alone makes it a worth endevor11:17
OpenSorcecairne, exactly :-P11:18
password2i was wondering if anyone can help me sort out my virtual ubuntu on my tab with remote desktop and lxde11:18
cairneOpenSorce: Just hope you have a really sturdy wall from banging your head against it as you go along tho lol11:18
OpenSorceIt was a pain to put Linux on it to begin with... netboot is the only option. No media drives and it won't boot from USB11:18
password2whenever i try to start Qt i get error almost identical to this :http://scotgate.org/?p=24011:19
Rootbrianopensorce, that must have been a pain to get working.11:19
OpenSorcecairne, I'm making progress! At the moment touching the stylus to the screen causes the xserver to restart!11:19
Rootbrianopensorce: getting there. Soon the cursor will be moving.11:20
Rootbrianpassword2: might want to be a bit patient.11:21
password2ok11:21
OpenSorceWhich I ran into that issue with the first TC1000 I setup this way years ago. I fixed it then by upgrading to 9.10 :-P Just wish it was still that easy to do11:21
asmitadasmita11:21
cairneOpenSorce: how much did they go for brand new back in the day? like 2k?11:22
jribOpenSorce: you can still do it... It's just that it's not supported11:22
Rootbrianopensorce: I'm aware you've scoured the web for some form of a linux driver for later distros to be able to work with 10.04 and 12.04.11:23
OpenSorcecairne, Oh yeah... I was pissed when Transmeta hired Linus because I couldn't afford one of these11:23
_makany one know an diagram application that supports line jump (http://images.visual-paradigm.com/docs/vpuml_user_guide/11/1283/33/90/arc_option_6298.png)?11:23
the_dark_knighthi guys, I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/5iQcPajumlyQsn6xJQ98/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf but I don't see it printing anythin to supervisor.txt? please help.11:23
OpenSorcejrib, all due respect... once I figure out how to get 9.10 on this thing I won't need support. It'll be the novelty tablet that I jot notes on and such11:24
Rootbrianopensorce: I meant lifebook p-1501. Lol11:25
OpenSorceRootbrian, I'm looking at this all wrong... I just consider using my stylus as a new method of the old ctrl-alt-backspace that use to bring down Xervers!11:25
jribOpenSorce: well just keep in mind you won't be getting securite updates.  So I wouldn't have this thing connecting to the outside world.  LTS releases by default will only prompt for upgrades to other LTS releases.  This is an option you can change in software sources (or find the file /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades (in current releases anyway)).  Then you'll have the problem that the repositories for11:25
jrib9.10 aren't hosted anymore.  You can find them at old-releases.ubuntu.com.  See ubottu for more details.11:26
jrib!upgrade > OpenSorce11:26
ubottuOpenSorce, please see my private message11:26
Rootbrianopensorce: if it was capacitive, the screen would work right away.11:26
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the_dark_knightplease somebody help me out on supervisord? I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/5iQcPajumlyQsn6xJQ98/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf but I don't see it printing  anythin to supervisor.txt?11:26
OpenSorceWow a pm from the bot... thanks :-)11:26
jribOpenSorce: I still think if I were in your shoes I would try debian instead or try building a kernel that supports it on a supported release of ubuntu11:26
OpenSorcejrib, I realize that. What I was hoping for was a release that made the stylus work. Doesn't look like I'm gonna get that so yeah, I'll probably go back to 10.0411:28
OpenSorceAlso, for the record. I have a webserver up right now running Slack 3.0 with Kernel 1.x.x on a 48611:28
Rootbrianopensorce: that's a vintage server.11:29
OpenSorceIt's been up for more than 11 years and has never been compromised.11:29
jribnot sure what your point is :)11:29
OpenSorcejrib, the point is I think I'm okay security wise11:30
Rootbrianthat's 1 year yonger of runtime than my 12 year old P4.11:30
jribOpenSorce: I don't understand why you would think that.  Security issues are patched all the time11:30
OpenSorcejrib, okay11:30
blazemoreOpenSorce: How do you know it's never been compromised?11:31
OpenSorceBecause I invited all of my friends from #hackphreak on the Undernet to bring it down. No one could.11:31
OpenSorceIt has unique security features11:32
the_dark_knightplease somebody help me out on supervisord? I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/5iQcPajumlyQsn6xJQ98/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf. when I do sudo supervisorctl restart echo, it says echo: ERROR (no such process)11:32
unrarheya11:33
OpenSorceAnyway, no easy route to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 I get it. I'll figure something else out. Thanks so much for the input guys!11:33
Rootbrianopensorce: your welcome. Best of luck.11:34
OpenSorcejrib, great job encouraging new folks to use LTS versions man. Well done :-)11:34
OpenSorceRootbrian, thanks man. I'll stop in here and give you shout if I get it working11:34
gordonjcpOpenSorce: both 9.10 is long dead11:35
gordonjcpOpenSorce: 8.04 is iirc only supported on servers11:35
Ashtray777where is the off topic channel11:35
crizisOpenSorce, you can upgrade directly to 10.04 from 8.04, though11:35
Rootbrianopensorce: I'll try to be in here more often either from a computer or my blackberry via jmirc (can't copy/paste, click links).11:35
DJones!ot | crizis11:35
ubottucrizis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:35
gordonjcpAshtray777: #ubuntu-offtopic11:35
Ashtray777thanks11:35
crizis!ot | DJones11:36
ubottuDJones: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:36
OpenSorcegordonjcp, crizis you guys walked in on the tail end of this discussion..... but thanks for the input11:36
gordonjcpOpenSorce: why not just go with 12.04, which is the current LTS?11:36
Ashtray777!linux | crizis11:36
ubottucrizis: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux11:36
DJonescrizis: Sorry that was meant for Ashtray77711:36
the_dark_knightplease somebody help me out on supervisord? I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/5iQcPajumlyQsn6xJQ98/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf. when I do sudo supervisorctl restart echo, it says echo: ERROR (no such process)11:36
crizismeh, stop flooding me, everyone :p11:36
OpenSorcegordonjcp,  it's an old Compaq TC1000 with a Transmeta Crusoe 5800 proc... not supported past 10.04 and the stylus doesn't work in any version past 9.1011:37
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OpenSorceNow I'm gonna leave before I have to answer that question again. You guys really are great at encouraging folks to use LTS versions though. I'm impressed.11:39
AndIrci know unetbootin changes the filenames of the kernel but does it change the insides?11:40
cool_boyHi there11:40
cool_boyI am not able to connect my linux 10.10 to a windows system using switch11:40
cool_boyI am able to connect all other system !11:41
mrgoodcatusing a network switch?11:41
mrgoodcatapparently it does11:44
cairnecool_boy: are you trying to connect linux to a windows domain network?11:45
mrgoodcatoops wrong window. disregard11:45
cool_boymrgoodcat : yes a newwork switch11:46
cool_boyD-Link 8 ports11:46
cool_boycairne :yes but i tried with both linux 10.10 to windows 7 and linux 10.10 to linux 12.0411:47
cool_boyno one is working11:47
cool_boywhat is working for me is linux 12.04 to windows11:47
cool_boyand windows to linux 12.0411:47
cool_boyI have  3 systems one win 7. other are linux 10.10 and 12.0411:47
mrgoodcatsounds like a firewall issue11:48
cairnecool_boy: windows will not even recognize a linux formated hdd in my experiences11:48
cool_boymrgoodcat : firewall in linux?11:48
cool_boycairne: there is not a problem in windows system11:48
cool_boyit is working ,i tested with ubuntu 12.0411:48
mrgoodcatwhat service are you specifically trying to connect? fileshares?11:49
cool_boyjust the system with ubuntu 10.10 is not responding ,even if it shows connection established11:49
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cairneare you just trying to tunnel in via ssh? or are you trying to link all the hdd's as network drives so you can access files from either system at any time?11:49
cool_boyI am not specifying anything , just checking with the ping command11:49
cool_boyno ssh11:50
mrgoodcatsome systems do not respond to ping11:50
cool_boywhy that so, mrgoodcat?11:50
cairneis it just a switch or a router/switch?11:50
cool_boyjust a switch11:51
cool_boywell , I am running openerp at port 8069 in ubuntu 10.10 system11:51
mrgoodcatmy system does not respond to ping requests11:51
password2is XinputExtensions , something beloning to vnc servers or clients?11:51
cool_boyIf i connect this system with other , and type localhost:8069 in other system11:52
dzupMestreLion, found it, i think is running a bit better now, but looks like its a kernel bug, i add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force i915.i915_enable_rc6=1" to my grub and seems bit better now11:52
cool_boyI can see just heading on the browser tab OpenERP after it, doest forwards11:52
the_dark_knighthi, my supervisord.conf file is http://www.bpaste.net/raw/n1vx3VMfLkJZaaw3syoB/ like this. but when I execute it like given here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9301494/how-to-restart-only-certain-processes-using-supervisorctl , it gives errors of "no such prcess" please help. I am lost. can't get supervisord to work. Can't find any sample code and full procedure working from internet.11:52
cairnesorry I have never dealt with just switches, not sure how individual ip's work without a router to move traffic around11:53
ianmthomasukIs it possible to install MySQL 5.1.65 on Ubuntu 10.04? Packages.ubuntu.com lists the current version of mysql-server-5.1 as 5.1.63-0ubuntu0.10.04.111:53
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cool_boycairne : there is no problem in IP assigning,if it is then it resides just in conf files11:54
MestreLiondzup: that "bug" was fixed ages ago.. what ubuntu version are you using?11:54
cool_boyis there something like firewall in linux? which can prevent packets sending?11:55
MestreLiondzup: there was a lot of talk regarding i915 rc6 and pcie issues around natty and oneiric... but I think it was solved in precise11:55
guang_cool_boy:ip tables11:55
nilzieeeSELinux11:55
unixhackercool_boy, ufw11:56
MestreLioncool_boy:  ufw11:56
cool_boyhow can I allow connections if there is something like that?11:56
adek05Do you know why since update to Gnome3.6 my mapping caps_lock to escape is not working anymore? Does Gnome again try to mess with my config files?11:56
cairnedoes the 10.04 box connect to the internet and ping out?"11:56
mrgoodcatcool_boy: sudo ufw disable (run this command at your own risk as it completely disables the firewall. NOT RECCOMENDED)11:57
MestreLioncool_boy: but, if you're behind a router (like most of us are), I reccomend using your router's firewall11:57
cool_boyno I am not on any router11:57
MestreLionmrgoodcat: nonsense... ufw is disabled by default in ubuntu11:57
cairnesince hes just using a switch if that switch isnt coming from a router, he would be leaving his system wide open11:57
cool_boywhat I can assure is , there is not a problem in switch,not in wires,not in windows system,not in ubuntu 12.04.......... where it is that is linux system 10.1011:59
food1Can i remove Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l from issue and issue net? I just want to hide all the banner for security reason11:59
MestreLioncool_boy: you might also try gufw, which is a basic and friendly GUI for ufw: sudo apt-get install gufw  (for pictures, see this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gufw-simple-gui-for-ufw-uncomplicated-firewall.html )11:59
food1And add anything there Like "UnknowN LinX 00 \n \l"12:00
MestreLionfood1: what?12:00
food1MestreLion, I mean deleting the text "12.04.1 LTS \n \l" from /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net ...12:01
Sarajevohello12:01
Sarajevoany ubuntu noobie chan12:01
cool_boyMestreLion : what that does?12:01
Sarajevorookie chan12:01
blazemore#ubuntu-beginners12:01
blazemoreBut here is way more active12:01
blazemoreSarajevo: I think I remember you12:02
Sarajevohey dude12:02
Sarajevoi finally switched to ubuntu12:02
MestreLioncool_boy: ok, I guess we were misunderstanding your problem. You were not asking for a firewall in ubuntu you want to use, you asked if ubuntu by default comes with a firewall that might be blocking packages, correct?12:02
Sarajevoi got sick of win12:02
Sarajevoive been using it for 8h straight12:02
Sarajevoand unity is as confusing as metro on win812:02
the_dark_knighthey guys pease help. why can't any of my supervisord jobs run?12:02
Sarajevoso i switched to kubuntu desktop12:03
Sarajevokde?12:03
compdocmetro is more confusing than unity12:03
Sarajevois that a good move12:03
blazemoreSarajevo: It's a personal choice12:03
mrgoodcatwhat's wrong with unity?12:03
the_dark_knighthttp://www.bpaste.net/raw/n1vx3VMfLkJZaaw3syoB/  when I run supervisor it doesn't run cat1 or cat212:03
MestreLionfood1: and why would you want to do that???12:03
Sarajevoit's confusing and slow12:03
Sarajevohey yeah12:03
Sarajevoi forgot something to ask12:03
Sarajevoive been having problems with fonts12:03
blazemoreI move to create a spinoff channel, #ubuntu-circlejerk , where discussions such as "unity sucks lol" can occur12:03
food1MestreLion, I don't want anyone see my System Information, version etc12:04
Sarajevoi turned on antialising but still doesnt hep much12:04
blazemoreSarajevo: Try setting the subpixel smoothing to "full"12:04
MestreLionfood1: "anyone" as in... ?12:04
blazemorerather than "slight"12:04
Sarajevookay12:04
Sarajevojust a moment12:04
food1MestreLion, The Nasty Hacker?12:04
Sarajevoblazemore, and what font would u suggest me to use12:04
Sarajevowhat font do you use12:04
blazemoreSarajevo: For applications? Whatever the default is12:04
Sarajevoim using liberatian-mono12:05
Sarajevook12:05
MestreLionfood1: I guess if a hacker is able to access a file in you /etc dir, you have bigger problems then he knowing what you system version is :P12:05
cool_boy_net disconnected12:05
blazemoreSarajevo: If it looks good, it is good12:05
the_dark_knighthttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/9301494/how-to-restart-only-certain-processes-using-supervisorctl this doesn't work in my machine.12:05
the_dark_knightplease help.12:05
MestreLioncool_boy: ok, I guess we were misunderstanding your problem. You were not asking for a firewall in ubuntu you want to use, you asked if ubuntu by default comes with a firewall that might be blocking packages, correct?12:05
Sarajevorgb full, right?12:05
blazemoreSarajevo: Yes12:05
cool_boy_yes MestreLion !12:05
Sarajevoexclude range, turned off?12:06
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food1MestreLion, When Someone connecting to my ssh or trying to logging locally i am not front of my pc. A hacker can go so far if the version he can know12:06
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Sarajevoso far my fav program on ubuntu is wine12:06
MestreLioncool_boy_: ubuntu does come with a firewall installed, but it is disabled by default (it has no rules and nothing is blocked)12:06
SarajevoI need to relog12:06
food1MestreLion, Is it safe to remove that line?12:06
cool_boySo not getting why connection is blocked?12:07
MestreLionfood1: that is absurd! First, to connect via ssh you must have ssh server enabled. Second, one needs a user and password there. Third, there are zillions of other ways to find out your OS version other than those files12:07
MestreLioncool_boy: which connection? what are you trying to do?12:08
cool_boyI am trying to make wired connection between tow PC's using a switch installed ubuntu on both12:09
food1MestreLion, Well, Ubuntu boot in text mode then startx. So before logged in anyone can see the banner ... right ? Also I am trying to make it hardened12:09
Titomeni need some help installing ubuntu 12.04 on raid..some help --guidence12:09
mrgoodcatTitomen: how far have you gotten?12:09
cool_boyMestreLion: I have setuped all best of my knowledge,correct ips and all12:09
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cool_boyit sows me connection established in both the PCs12:10
cool_boybut not able to send and receive packets from one to onother PC12:10
MestreLionfood1: no hacker would see your ubuntu booting before he can *connect* to your machine.12:10
cairnedoes network functions even come online during startx?12:10
MestreLioncool_boy: can you ping each other?12:10
food1MestreLion, And if he accessed to my computer room and tried turn on it?12:11
cool_boythats the problem ,I am not able to ping12:11
MestreLionfood1: then /etc/issue is the least of your problems12:11
cairnewell you can remove the ubuntu logo from the login page if thats what your looking for12:11
Sarajevook12:11
Sarajevoit's okay now12:11
cool_boyIt says host unreachable12:12
food1MestreLion, So i can remove that line ... Is it safe ? or Am i n00b?12:12
Sarajevothanks12:12
MestreLioncairne: of course. you have full network support even *without* using X12:12
mN-food1:  how easy is it to hack linux if they know my real ip?12:12
MestreLionfood1: IMHO you are completely uneducated about what "security" is12:13
food1mN-, Dunno12:13
Sarajevohow do i set hotkey for konsole12:13
cairneMestreLion: I didnt think the dhcp resolved ip addresses until after linux actually boots12:13
cool_boyMestreLion : it worked one time while testing , but when I pressed ctrl + C, It stopped and never started12:13
n00b982@food1 I am n00b12:13
mN-MestreLion:  how easy is it to hack my ubuntu if they know my real ip?12:13
food1MestreLion, Right12:13
n00b982dont be making fun of my name12:13
cairnemN-: depends on if your computer id directly connected to the internet or through a router, the router has a built in firewall12:13
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MestreLionmN-: define "real" ip :P12:14
cairnemN-: even knowing someones ip, it would still be a decent amount of work, since you would then need to find an open port, an open port that is explotiable12:14
mN-MestreLion: well not proxy ip but 'real' ip12:14
MestreLionknowing an IP has nothing to do with security at all12:14
gordonjcpmN-: pretty much impossible12:15
cairnemN-: do you have a static ip or dynamic, if its dynamic then it changes every 3-7 days depending on isp ne ways12:15
mN-cairne: could you do it through irc port?12:15
gordonjcpmN-: pdp11.gjcp.net - have at it and good lick12:15
gordonjcp*luck12:15
mrgoodcatmy dynamic almost never changes12:15
BluesKajHi all12:15
mrgoodcati know that because my domain name is registered to it and it hasn't stopped working in the last year12:15
MestreLionpeople from windows world are funny... they are so paranoic about all the FUD... thinking about ips, hackers, antivirus... lol12:16
cairnemN-: there are exploitable hacks for irc, yes12:16
gordonjcpmN-: that's a bog standard 12.04 install, hanging off of ADSL12:16
n00b982my one changes every 4 to 5 days12:16
cool_boyMestreLion : is it necessary to have Device MAC address automatically in wired connection tab?12:16
cairnemrgoodcat: if you have a dynamic ip then its leased and it should change12:16
mrgoodcatmine doesn't12:16
mrgoodcatit only changes when i disconnect my modem12:16
mN-gordonjcp:  im not trying to hack anyone, this guy just showed a picture where he is scanning my port and i wonder what he can do o_o12:16
mrgoodcatwhich i never do12:16
MestreLioncool_boy: wait a sec... if you're not using any router at all, who is providing DHCP for their IPs ?12:16
cairnethats what I was wondering as well MestreLion12:17
cool_boyMestreLion:I dont know , it is set at automacially12:17
cairneO.o12:17
MestreLioncool_boy:  and are the IPs diffeernt yet on the same network mask ?12:18
cool_boysorry MestreLion, I said wront ,actually I dont know about it12:18
cool_boyyes that is12:18
MestreLioncool_boy: try to ping them by IP first12:18
cairnemN-: if you think he has your ip address log into your router and release your ip address from your isp and get a new one, then all his efforts are for not12:18
mN-cairne: okay12:19
the_dark_knighthi, after copying http://www.bpaste.net/raw/QufNUrMcbdHsspuJCGAq/ like http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8279848/supervisord-adding-multiple-processes-for-php-and-gearman in supervisord.conf. what should I be running to run this task?12:19
MestreLionmN-: knowing your IP is not an issue... you use your IP for any service you use on the net, so consider it a public information12:19
cairnemN-: this is true, but if someone is actively probing him, best to throw them off a bit12:19
MestreLionmN-: and anyone can run nmap on that IP.. again, no big deal, provided you have a sanely configured machine12:19
cairnecould always fire back, see what ip address is connected to you and back track it through nmap12:20
LovaI haveLOW FPS in Online Videos in browser on old computer. Processor: 1.7 Pentium 4 / Ram: 1 GHz / Videocard: Nvidia Geeforce 440 MX with AGP8X 64 Ram / Video Driver: Proprietory Nvidia Video Driver v. 9612:21
LovaI have LOW FPS in Online Videos in browser on old computer. Processor: 1.7 Pentium 4 / Ram: 1 GHz / Videocard: Nvidia Geeforce 440 MX with AGP8X 64 Ram / Video Driver: Proprietory Nvidia Video Driver v. 9612:21
cairnelova: what browser12:21
Lovaall browsers12:21
LovaChrome, Ice...12:22
cairnefirefox, chromium can be pretty resource heavy12:22
MestreLionLova: what did you expect?12:22
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cool_boyMastreLion : now i gave a try after delete to ping after deleting and creating wired connection again, ir responded12:22
mN-MestreLion: true but how will he find my new ip so easily if i get it changed? All i do is programming c and check my mail usually12:22
cool_boyI was getting response in both the systems12:22
mrgoodcatmN-: ip is public info12:23
MestreLionmN-: knowing your IP is not relevant at all... anyone can know your IP, so what?12:23
cairnemN-: everytime you send a packet out you are sending out your ip address12:23
MestreLionit does not make your machine any less secure12:23
LovaHow have BIG FPS in Videos on Old Computer. On Windows Xp all good!12:23
mrgoodcatmN-: are you by chance in vantaa finland?12:23
cool_boythen I wrote 192.168.1.45:8069 in the system which I need to access from other system, it worked till half of the page load and stopped sending packets12:23
cool_boynow ping too not working12:23
cool_boyhost unreachable12:23
mN-mrgoodcat:  no helsinki12:24
MestreLionLova: because windows XP is a 10+ year OS.12:24
mN-mrgoodcat:  i know you can dns my irc ip12:24
LovaAnd what!??!12:24
dhanasekaranHI Guys Can I install Ubuntu to my 32 GB USB pen drive?12:24
cairnelova: try midori, its a very leightweight browser12:24
Lovau nonadequats12:24
cairneyes unebootin12:24
MestreLiondhanasekaran: sure12:24
mN-cairne: yes but if im not connected to irc or share a program he knows about. how would you find my new ip?12:24
LovaAny can do normal hemp?12:24
Lovahelp12:24
cairne32 gb is gonna be a huge flash drive for it tho lol, could easily get away with like an 812:25
mrgoodcatmN-: he wouldn't. but MestreLion is trying to say it doesn't matter if he knows your ip12:25
LovaIn Windows XP good FPS, but in Linux bad12:25
dhanasekaranMestreLion:  please guide me any tutorial is there12:25
MestreLionLova: windows XP is a 10+ years OS, so it runs fine on older machines. If you're trying to run a modern Ubuntu, it won't work as weel, this is exppected12:25
mN-mrgoodcat: yea but he could nmap my ports and use another program to crack if i have open ports lolz(?)12:26
cool_boyMestreLion : did you get my issue?12:26
arthalion7hi sirs12:26
dhanasekaranGuys any tutorial is there for install Ubuntu to my 32 GB USB pen drive?12:26
william_Hello, i have a computer that recently i can"t boot live cd"s anymore. i dont have any hard drives installed, just a dvd burner to load ubuntu live cds. but now when i boot i get thrown into a busybox cant find live media. any ideas ?12:26
mrgoodcatLova: try using lubuntu instead12:26
Lovai use little distro12:26
Lovain Lubuntu LOW FPS12:26
cairnehttp://mintarticles.com/read/operating-systems-articles/how-to-install-portable-linux-ubuntu-on-a-bootable-usb-flash-drive-from-sun-virtualbox,13641/12:26
arthalion7how can I force update from 11.10 to 12.1012:26
MestreLioncool_boy: last time I asked if you can ping machines using IP (and ip alone, not specifying ports)12:26
LovaKubuntu > Lubuntu FPS12:26
mrgoodcatgraphics card issue probably12:26
Lovaundestand?12:27
mrgoodcatdrivers12:27
MestreLiondhanasekaran: no need for tutorials. Just boot a live session, plug your USB and install ubuntu there as if it was an ordinary hard drive. For ubuntu there is no difference12:27
LovaFlash acselleration not good work for Linux?12:27
cool_boyMestreLion : Yes I can for the first time when the connection is established12:27
dhanasekaranMestreLion: Thanks I try12:28
cairneMestreLion thats new, thought you had to do it through unebootin12:28
mrgoodcatLova: you need to make sure you have the proper drivers installed for your graphics card12:28
cool_boyif I press ctrl + C then if I try to ping again ,it doest works12:28
cool_boyMestreLion: It shows host unreachable12:28
MestreLioncairne: to generate an instalablle USB key you do... for installing the system in the USB you don't12:28
william_Hello, i have a computer that recently i can"t boot live cd"s anymore. i dont have any hard drives installed, just a dvd burner to load ubuntu live cds. but now when i boot i get thrown into a busybox cant find live media. any ideas ? bios rootkit maybe?12:28
william_im lost12:28
cfhowlett!patience|william_:12:29
ubottuwilliam_:: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/12:29
GrapeTheApewhats the best terminal based program that will proxy (change external ip address)ur connection for free12:29
cairneMestreLion: sweet you save me from buying one of those sticks from ubuntu website, i could never get installs to work that don't just act as a live system. fedora use to frustrate me so much with that12:29
GrapeTheApeBESIDES TOR12:29
MestreLioncairne: also, you don't really need uunetbootin in Ubuntu... there's the USB Creator installed by default12:30
food1lol again my window got ugly... It is killing me12:30
mrgoodcatGrapeTheApe: you have to have access to another machine to proxy through first12:30
cairneMestreLion: so how does boot work with it though, if you just install it, would it be a seperate grub on the flash?12:30
GrapeTheApeyes i know mrgoodcat...i dont have another machine myself but do u know one that will find one for me besides TOR12:31
MestreLioncairne: yes. install there and then set BIOS to boot the USB12:31
cairneMestreLion: Good to know, now I can take my desktop anywhere, does it work if you do a iso copy of your current system?12:32
GrapeTheApeno one knows huh12:32
MestreLioncool_boy: I don't know. But first you should investigate how your computers are stablishing their IPs in the rist place, if theres no dhcp server in the network12:32
mrgoodcati think tor is the largest and most popular service like that.12:32
GrapeTheApetor doesnt seem to work with rtorrent12:32
MestreLioncairne: define "iso copy of a system" :P12:32
GrapeTheApeand other services12:32
arthalion7how can I force update from 11.10 to 12.10? Ubuntu asks me to update to 12.04...12:33
the_dark_knighthi, please see http://www.bpaste.net/raw/tKWvKn3U89SshyFhiIgA/ I have appended this to my /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf . but I don't see anythin in echo.log file why. It seems like it is no running it. please help me on this supervisord. Refer http://supervisord.org/subprocess.html12:33
cairneeven tor isn't perfect none of them are, they can track your ip into the tor cloud and on the way out and derive your route12:33
cfhowlettarthalion7: can't be done12:33
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GrapeTheApepft12:33
cairneMestreLion: isnt there an option to make a bootable copy of your own system in Ubuntu, so I dont have to reinstall apps, fonts etc12:33
cfhowlettarthalion7: clean install 12.10 is the way to go.12:33
MestreLionGrapeTheApe: define "cchange external address". if you're behind a router, theres nothing you can do about external IP, since this is assigned by your ISP12:34
arthalion7cfhowlett:thanks! Good to know...12:34
GrapeTheApeMestreLion something like hidemyass proxy, a VPN, Tor,12:34
LovaHow config xorg.conf for BIG FPS in Video in Browser!?12:34
MestreLioncairne: you can simply copy the partition and install grub on the USB12:34
usuariosudo apt-get install wine12:35
LovaHEY?! Where all pro?!12:35
MestreLionGrapeTheApe: those are internet services, which by definition must run *outside* your router.12:35
cairneonly way to be completley anon on internet would be to change your mac address connect to public wifi via live cd12:35
GrapeTheApemestrelion thats basically what i mean12:35
MestreLionGrapeTheApe: you can't run them in your machine12:36
LovaAny can help?12:36
GrapeTheApeu can run clients12:36
MestreLionLova: try using an older ubuntu12:36
LovaHow config xorg for Nvidia?12:36
the_dark_knightplease help me on supervisor >>>12:36
the_dark_knighthi, please see http://www.bpaste.net/raw/tKWvKn3U89SshyFhiIgA/ I have appended this to my /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf . but I don't see anythin in echo.log file why. It seems like it is no running it. please help me on this supervisord. Refer http://supervisord.org/subprocess.html12:36
mrgoodcatLova: asking 20 times won't help. obviously nobody knows12:36
GrapeTheApeu know what i mean mestrelion...looking for privacy thats free besides tor12:36
mrgoodcator if they do they aren't telling12:37
Lovai use CraunchBAng now and Lubuntu ewerewhere LOW FPS12:37
GrapeTheApeanyway i guess theres nothing... thanks anyway guys take care12:37
MestreLionGrapeTheApe: privacy when surfing the web has nothing to do with IP proxyinng12:37
LovaCrauncBAng 80 ram use12:37
cairneMestreLion: Have you ever used remastersys?12:37
Lovaand 0-3 % processor12:37
Lovawhy LOw FPS?12:37
jaakkahi! does anyone know an application for executing one command in multiple locations, lets say vps.12:38
Lova80 Mb ram...12:38
MestreLioncairne: nope, but I have an idea about what it does12:38
mrgoodcatLova: i already told you it is probably a video driver problem12:38
jaakkagetting harder to manage as i ownw hundreds of them12:38
mrgoodcatjaakka: ssh12:38
Lovai have problem in 2d in videos and only in browsers12:38
jaakkaalbeit the configuration of them is similar12:38
cairneMestreLion: So I should be able to use that boot the live distro I make and then just straight install on a flash, would 8 gig be enough for a full sys install like that?12:38
Lovai normal watch videos on my hdd12:38
cairnelova: what exactly do you mean by low fps? how are you determining your fps?12:39
jaakkamrgoodcat, yes, but if you have like 100++, it takes a while to get all of them executed at the same time12:39
LovaAny know my problem?12:39
lmggreetings ubuntu ppl!12:39
* lmg waves hello12:39
Lovaor use deistro not on Debian maybe?12:39
cairnehey lmg12:39
LovaArch good?12:39
MestreLioncairne: enought? yes. comfortable or adequate for use? no. My mom lived on a 4GB usb for some months, but she never installed any package...12:39
mrgoodcatif you can't figure out ubuntu good luck with arch12:40
cairnelova: try gentoo then12:40
mN-Anyone know math + c ?12:40
unixhackergentoo and arch are not what they used to be. terrible actually what they done to arch.12:40
cairneMestreLion: bah thanks tho, at least it gives me a starting point, been wanting a flash system12:40
Lovacairne u shit fag troll faggot stfu then!12:40
Lovaidiot12:41
lmglooking for someone who can help with the desription of software (blender 3D) in the ubuntu software center (maybe repos too).12:41
FloodBot1Lova: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:41
lmgdescription* - I meant.12:41
MestreLionmN-: many do, but I doubt here is the better place to ask about that12:41
jaakkacairne, perhaps something along the lines of MINT or more user-friendly ones were more suitable for him12:41
jaakkanot everyone is suited to building ones system from blocks12:41
unixhackerjaakka, correct.12:41
cairnewould be able to slim down the system tho12:41
MestreLioncairne: out of the box current ubuntu uses about 4~6GB... so you would have very little room for new packages or user data files12:42
SirScottjaakka: fabric allows you to run cmds on multiple servers simultaneously12:42
cairneMestreLion: yea I was just reading that, I got a 32 lying around somewhere12:42
MestreLionlmg: description?12:42
jaakkaSirScott, will it work on openvz, i suppose it should as its written in python and doesnt require kernel integration12:43
lmgMestreLion: yes. there's a typo. also the version is outdated. bad screenshots too.12:43
cairnelova: try the lxde spin of fedora, it works great on old systems12:43
lmgwho can I talk/chat/mail to?12:43
jaakkajust want to avoid caveats if possible on a production machine12:43
MestreLioncairne: another, more economic  solution is to use the Live USB with persistance (a casper-rw partition)12:43
SirScottjaakka: sure, it just needs ssh12:44
cairneMestreLion: lol everytime I attempt the persistance, it goes horribly awry lol12:44
MestreLionlmg: you can report a bug asking to fix that, or, if you're willing to, you can download the source, fix it and post a patch12:44
dixoncxProblem with pulseaudio/alsa. I tried 'Monitor of built-in audio Analog Streo' to record sound from speaker.eg.http://i.imgur.com/D2hJR.png  But now when i change back to 'built-in audio Analog Streo' to use internal microphone, it produce some noice. http://i.imgur.com/c4NDM.png12:44
jaakkaSirScott, thank you for youre time, uve been helpful12:45
SirScottjaakka: you're welcome12:45
khurramhi guys12:45
arkiverI have downloaded eclipse. And I would like eclipse to launch from my unity dashboard. How can I do that ?12:45
lmgMestreLion: I see. where is the additional info in software center coming from anyways?12:46
cairnearkiver: once its open, right click on the icon and lock to launch bar?12:46
khurrami have  It works!  page comming when i type localhost on my ubuntu . how can i know where is the www folder where i can place the prject files ?12:46
arkiverI know I might have to move it into the /usr/bin12:46
MestreLioncairne: it's a bit tricky the first time, but it works wonders. My workflow is: create the Live USB using USB Creator, and set a persistense size (it can be as small as 128MB. after it finishes, delete the casper-rw file and creates a huge casper-rw partition. Voila, done :)12:46
arkiverBut not sure12:46
arkivercairne, No I want it to be launched from the terminal also. Maybe I have to put it in PATH ?12:46
cairneMestreLion: so you expand it just by deleting the file or gparted12:47
arkiverI've followed the process several times. But most of the times without understanding what it is done what is done.12:47
MestreLionlmg: additional info? all info in software center comes from the package package itself, AFAIK12:47
theuserCan i have a  disk image file on a remote file server that is encrypted just like my home directory and automatically mounted to somewhere in my home folder?12:47
cairnearkiver: hmm i know what your talking about but my brain is just hanging on how to word it lol, been such a long night sorry12:48
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MestreLioncairne: USB creator creates it as a file inside the live partition. Mount and delete the file, then use gparted to create the partition... you may expand it  at will12:48
arkivercairne, hehe. No probs :)12:48
cairneMestreLion: Awesome, thanks man12:48
theuserMore specifically,  is there a easy way to do thi12:48
theuserAnd could this image file be mounted by more than one computer at the same time?12:49
lmgMestreLion: pkg info does contain screenshots? if you would be so kind to compare `apt-cache info blender` with the info in the software center, you will see the difference.12:49
theuseror is it something else i should be doing ?12:49
invisiblehello12:50
invisiblehello12:50
MestreLioncairne: my setup for the 8GB was: partition 1: 2GB Fat 32 (may be ntfs) for shared data; partition 2: casper-rw ; partition 3 (bootable): ~800MB live cd12:50
cairnearkiver: are you trying to launch a specific eclipse project or just the ide itself from the terminal?12:51
MestreLionlmg: apt-cache info shows just a summary. download the whole source using apt-get source blender and you will find it ;)12:51
cairneMestreLion: thanks!12:52
lmgMestreLion: I'll give that a shot thanks. The changes I would like to see.. I mail the "Maintainer" (list) about them?12:52
cairnelmg: would the info be on their site?12:53
mattyh88hey, i'm trying to create a bootable usb key of (x)ubuntu with this guide: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx but I keep getting "this disk is not readable by this computer" when the files are written to the usb key12:53
MestreLiontheuser: yes, you can auto-mount it either in /etc/fstab or using any script (even fuse for user mounts). Not sure about concurrent mounts, though12:53
lmgcairne: on blenders site?12:53
arkivercairne, The ide...12:53
MestreLionlmg: it's better to report a bug... that will notify the maintainer, and its easier to follow-up12:54
lmgMestreLion: alright, will do. thank you for the information.12:54
MestreLionlmg:  and no, blender site has nothing to do with package descriptions  or screenshots in software center12:55
lmgMestreLion: I figured, but since cairne asked..12:55
MestreLionlmg: directly contacting the maintainer is useful only if you already have the patches to fix the issues you find. And even then its better to report a bug, so you can post your patch there12:55
lmgblender seems to be a debian pkg, with no unbuntu-specific changes.12:56
MestreLionand it can be automatically imported from there to the package itself12:56
* lmg nods12:56
lmgI will check the package source, file a bug, attach a patch and hope for the best.12:56
MestreLionand wrong: there are ubuntu-only patches12:56
MestreLionhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=blender12:57
MestreLionif the version contains "ubuntu", as in 2.63a-1ubuntu3 , it means it's an ubuntu-only branch12:57
* lmg nods12:58
MestreLionand I bet you'll find the screenshots there ;)12:58
lmgI'm running precise here - hence falsly jumped to conclusions12:58
djjefftalika depends on libpanel-applet2-0 (>= 2.26.0);12:58
djjeffpossible to get this for ubuntu 12?12:59
lmgMestreLion: should http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/blender/filelist include the screenshots?12:59
MestreLionlmg: nope. that is the binary package13:01
MestreLionyou want the source package13:01
lmgha13:02
lmghttp://screenshots.debian.net/package/blender13:02
lmgMestreLion: ^ is where the software-center screenshots are coming from!13:03
cairnehaha, that bunny is hilarious13:03
lmgcairne: you did see lastyears blender open movie, no? "big buck bunny"13:03
cairneyes13:04
AdvoWorkis there a way I can test what happens with updates before actually doing them at all?13:04
lmg2 years ago, sorry.13:04
lmglastyears was sintel13:04
MestreLionlmg: Good boy ;)  and how did you find that out?13:04
lmgMestreLion: right hand side on the list of binary pkgs ;)13:05
brontosaurusrex"Tears of Steel" is the latest blender project13:05
cairneI try and watch every years blender video, those guys are awesome13:05
cairneyea tears of steel is showcasing the green screen ability i think13:05
MestreLionlmg: ok... but I'm not sure if Software Center reads http://screenshots.debian.net/package/ when presenting screenshots13:06
lmgactually, the new motion tracking + compositing features @cairne13:06
lmgMestreLion: me neither, but I guess it would be a good place to start adding new ones ;)13:07
cairnei wish i could play around with blender but actually using the app is way above me13:07
lmgcairne: steep learning curve, since designed to be effective for advanced users.13:07
brontosaurusrexcairne: one can do inetersting stuff taken few days of self-education, but not something like big bugs bunny obviously13:07
lmgwhat's easy for beginners just hinders pros - so to say13:07
syntroPiIs there any known way to change a partitions label after its formated with btrfs?13:08
cairnei would just like to be able to create like a lil 3d logo for my movies with openshot13:08
MestreLionlmg: how about http://screenshots.ubuntu.com/packages ? ;)13:08
brontosaurusrexcairne: that should be doable13:09
xSoraanyone her i need Help Please13:09
lmgMestreLion: what about it? it says debian in both title + header logo.13:09
cfhowlett!details|xSora:13:09
ubottuxSora:: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:09
cairnexsora: whats going on?13:09
xSoraI Have a Problem With Bootinng Into Windows 7 After Installing Ubunti 11.10 Oneric i Dont get windows 7 in the grub Menu i tried the booot fix but i diddnt work13:10
MestreLionlmg: oh, sorry, they are aliases :P13:10
lmgMestreLion: no idea how those are interlinked (Debian -> ubuntu?)13:10
MestreLionlmg: there you go: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24593/how-can-i-add-screenshots-of-programs-to-the-software-center/24595#2459513:10
cairnebrontosaurusrex, yea once i finish studying python, and web design I want to take a look into 3D modeling13:10
MestreLion"You can quickly and easily add screenshots to screenshots.debian.net which is the website that the Software Centre gets its screenshots from."13:10
cfhowlettxSora: 11.10?  end of life, innit?13:10
TheLordOfTimelmg, Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian.  Most of the packages in Ubuntu come from debina.13:10
* lmg nods13:10
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cairnexsora, open terminal do sudo update-grub i think it is13:11
xSoraI have no IDea what that is13:11
xSoraOkay13:11
lmgthank you kindly MestreLion, confirms what I was thinking. will do so + submit a bug about the typo in software center :)13:11
cairnexSora, or it might be grub-update13:11
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cfhowlett!EOL|xSora:13:11
ubottuxSora:: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:11
MestreLionlmg: well, but apart from screenshots, all other info like description comes from the source package13:12
gordonjcpmN-: I wouldn't worry about it13:12
dixoncxProblem with internal microphone. Produces noise instead of recording. How to troubleshoot ?13:12
xSoraOh Okay i FUlly Updated13:12
cairnedid it list off windows 7?13:12
gordonjcpmN-: as a threat level that's right alongside the "YOUR COMPUTER IS BROADCASTING AN IP ADDRESS" nonsense13:12
MestreLionlmg: and most of them from the debian/control file inside the source package13:12
xSoraNo i didnt Cairne13:12
xSorait*13:12
mN-gordonjcp: okay, so what would be a more serious outside threat? :D13:12
lmgMestreLion: yeah. I wonder how the headline differs in softwarecenter/apt-cache info though.13:12
cfhowlettxSora: sorry, I was wrong.  11.10 is supported until 04/1313:12
MestreLionlmg: it does???13:12
TheLordOfTimecfhowlett, erm...13:13
TheLordOfTimecfhowlett, 11.10 isnt eol :P13:13
xSorashould i updated to 12.04 ?13:13
TheLordOfTime11.04 is though :P13:13
cairnewas 11.04 grub 1 or 2?13:13
TheLordOfTimexSora, i just got here, what's your issue?  (i only saw cfhowlett try to pull EOL on you)13:13
lmgMestreLion: that is my point. sorry if I wasn't clear enough. see my very first request: "please compare SWC with pkg info headline" alike13:13
cfhowlettTheLordOfTime: yes i saw and corrected that bad statement.  but thank you.13:13
xSoraI Cant boot into windows 7 basicaly it isnt in grub  im in 11.1013:13
TheLordOfTimexSora, sudo grub2-update13:14
xSoradone it :I13:14
MestreLionlmg: let me check that... what exact packages are you trying?13:14
TheLordOfTimexSora, did you make sure the windows partition still exists?13:14
cairnecfhowlett: yea I had them try that first13:14
xSorayeah13:14
xSorasudo: grub2-update: command not found13:14
lmgMestreLion: `apt-cache show blender` vs. Software Center search 'blender'13:14
MestreLioncairne: ubuntu uses grub2 since 9.10 :P13:14
TheLordOfTimexSora, pastebin the output of fdisk -l.  and use grub-update.13:14
cairnecan manually edit the grub.conf file if you know the address of the partition of windows13:15
xSoradik how to paste bin i have  the Boot repair dou want me to run that ?13:15
xSoraik that has pastebin  report13:15
TheLordOfTime!pastebinit | xSora13:15
ubottuxSora: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com13:15
cairneoh yea i forgot about that utility13:15
lmgMestreLion: SWC has "3D modeling, animation, rendering and post-production" while pkg has "Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer"13:15
cairnetry boot repair recomended settings13:15
xSoraokay13:15
xSorai did that too cairne13:15
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lmgMestreLion: SWC headling "modeling" is a typo, at least inconsistent compared to "modelling" in the description.13:16
IdleOnexSora: sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub13:16
MestreLionlmg: wow, you're right. Man... that is weird13:16
lmgMestreLion: *nods* good, now we are at least talking about the same thing. sorry for being unclear in the first place.13:16
xSoraIdle0ne didd work :i13:16
cairnexSora: hopefully we can get this figured out ^^ i know how it feels when suddenly you can't get into your other os's lol been there many times13:16
xSorahaha Thanks ^~^13:17
IdleOnexSora: what didn't work?13:17
xSorahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1326366/ my paste bin i guess from boot repair13:17
xSorathat cmmand u gave mee13:18
MestreLionlmg: for all I know, both the description in SW and apt-cache show comes from the package's debian/control file. The "headline" is simply the first line in the "Description:" field13:18
MestreLionlmg: if SC is not using a different source for that, i'm completely unaware of. It certainly shouldn't13:18
lmgMestreLion: wierd tho, that SWC does _not_ have the first line of the description but instead a different (typoed) one.13:18
syntroPiAnyone has an idea what is wrong with invoking "btrfs filesystem label /dev/mmcblk0p1 ubuntu" because it gives me "ERROR: unknown command 'filesystem'" WHAT? the man talks about filesystem command...13:19
IdleOnexSora: did it give you any errors?13:19
xSorano errrors13:19
cairnedid os-prober work?13:19
xSoraWhats that Cairne ?13:19
IdleOnexSora: so why do you think it didn't work?13:19
gordonjcpmN-: well the biggest problem is if you run inherently insecure services13:19
xSorabecause the Windows  Boot didnt show in the temrinal o.o13:19
xSoraafter ir an the update13:19
TheLordOfTimexSora, is there an :Other Operating SYstems" option?13:20
IdleOnexSora: the command I gave you didn't run update13:20
gordonjcpmN-: like, a webserver on its own is probably fine but if you have a badly-written web app that might allow someone to get at stuff you don't want13:20
mN-gordonjcp:  ah okay13:20
cairnesudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub did you run those as well?13:20
xSoraim soo confused lol  Uhmm Lord of TIme i Only have windows 7 and ubuntu installed13:20
xSoraand run update ? >__<13:21
lmgMestreLion: mind moving our discussion to a query window? it's crowded already and I don't think this matter if of too much interest to others. or is it? (out for a smoke too, just msg me if its okay with you)13:21
IdleOnexSora: in terminal run the following command: sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub13:21
xSoracorey@CoreyHP:~$  sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub13:22
xSoraReading package lists... Done13:22
xSoraBuilding dependency tree13:22
xSoraReading state information... Done13:22
xSoraos-prober is already the newest version.13:22
FloodBot1xSora: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:22
xSora0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.13:22
MestreLionlmg: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=blender  <-- this also matches the package's descriotion 1st line, like apt... so SC is the one doing some strange "magic" :P13:22
IdleOnexSora: copy all that and put it on paste.ubuntu.com.13:23
IdleOnetell us the url after you do13:23
xSoraehhh13:23
xSorahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1326376/13:23
MestreLionlmg: actually, you've spotted a *very* interesting issue.  I truly have no idea where SC is taking that headline from... it's not from the package itself...13:23
cairneIdleOne, thats weird boot repair is seeing windows but not os prober, think she needs to do the advanced option repair mbr?13:24
xSoraokay okay :I13:24
IdleOnexSora: now run: fdisk -l    - pastebin the output please13:24
xSorabtw ima dude .-.13:24
xSoralol13:25
cairnemy bad13:25
IdleOnedoesn't really matter to us13:25
xSoraNo Worries ^~^13:25
xSorathe command isnt  entering13:25
lmgMestreLion: indeed so. what steps do suggest I should take to further investigate (and in the end hopefully fix) this issue?13:25
xSorahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1326393/13:26
haojie_1990mobibot: weather ZBAA13:27
MestreLionlmg: the good news is: the typo you're trying to fix is the one in the package.. more precisely debian/control file. Just apt-get source blender, edit that file, and use patch/diff to create a patch file. You can then attach that patch to the bug report (or email to the maintainer)13:27
TheLordOfTimehaojie_1990, wrong channel?13:27
xSora Idle0ne: it didnt work o.o http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326393/13:28
lmgMestreLion: understood, will do. what about the headline "magic" - as you nicely put it :) - ?13:28
IdleOnexSora: sorry it should be : sudo fdisk -l13:29
MestreLionlmg: I'm assuming you know how to compare 2 files (old and new) to create a diff / patch file...13:29
lmgMestreLion: I'm a blender developer. have towel - can diff ;)13:30
xSoraHere u Go Idle0ne http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326404/13:30
MestreLionlmg: as for the headline magic, I truly have no idea... I'll investigate on that too...13:30
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MestreLionlmg: oh, ok.. so you know you way around git and --format-patch just fine :P13:30
lmgMestreLion: thank you kindly - I'll do the diff + bugreport meanwhile13:30
MestreLionlmg: also, check to see if the typo is also in debian.. and bug report it there too13:31
lmgin this very case I can simply type the 1-liner by hand I guess ;)13:31
lmgah, I was about to ask if this bugreports get upstreamed automagically. MestreLion13:31
MestreLionlmg: 2-liner actually :P13:31
lmghaha, yeah. (I was going to lazily strip the - and just do the +)13:32
IdleOneTheLordOfTime: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326404/ I'm stuck here with getting windows in grub, can you help xSora please13:32
MestreLionlmg: no, it doesn't. But if you report in both debian (first) and then ubuntu, you can link them.. so when the debian is closed (and this patch will be applied in debian, not ubuntu), the launchpad bug will automatically be closed13:33
cairnexSora: is it multiple harddrives13:33
MestreLion(or, more preciselly, marked as Fix Commited13:33
TomyLobohi13:33
xSoraihave 3 harddrives :I 1 sata 2 pata13:33
lmglemme guess, I'll have to register somewhere to report the bug?13:33
TomyLobowhere does ubuntu keep the equivalent of /var/log/messages?13:33
xSora320=Ubuntu  80Gb= Windows 7  120= Blank13:33
MestreLionlmg: launchpad and debian, sure :P13:33
lmgmeh :P13:34
MestreLionlmg: you probably already have a launchpad account... if you ever used Ubuntu One, or bought anything in SC.. or used Ubuntu Forum, or Ask Ubuntu, etc13:34
lmgyeah, guess so.13:35
xSorahmmms :/13:36
cairnetrying to remember how to manually add an entry into grub13:37
xSoraokay no rush13:37
cairnexSora, can try rebooting after having done the boot-repair13:37
MestreLionlmg: as for Debian, but reporting is a fancy wrapper over emails, so no need to "register" per se13:37
wolscairne: /etc/grub13:38
dr_willis /etc/grub.d/40_custom  lets you add custom entries to grub13:38
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MestreLioncairne: as long as you don't try to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg :P13:38
wols /etc/grub.d rather13:38
xSorai did that about 6 times cairne13:38
MestreLioncairne: you may either edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom or create a new "xx_yyyy"  file yourself13:39
MestreLionlmg: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting13:39
cairnei coulda sworn there was an easy way to do it using just the location of the /sdc13:40
wolsxSora: what happens if you run "sudo os-prober"?13:40
xSoraWols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326428/13:40
Samsaihas anyone had issues with gnome-sound-recorder lately?13:41
xSoraCairne i have teamiewer if uw ana try a few things13:41
MestreLioncairne: you can use update-grub and copy and paste the results from /boot/grub/grub.cfg to your /etc/grub.b/40_custom file13:41
MestreLionteamview, eww :P13:42
xSoralol13:42
cairneMestreLion: it seems as tho its not recognizing the other hdd's however the pastebin from the boot-repair app does show them13:42
cairnecan you direct os-prober to look at specific harddrive?13:43
wolscairne: it doesn't even have a manpage. "simple" script I think13:45
MestreLionxSora: if you'd open your teamview for me, the fist thing i'd do is to install a proper VNC (hech, even RCP) server and remove teamview... :P13:45
savio!os-prober13:45
wolsMestreLion: that's a utterly stupid idea. and twice so for you to even suggest such a thing13:46
xSoralol i love meh teamviewr L313:46
xSora:313:46
MestreLion:P13:46
wolsNEVER ever open a remote connection for ANYONE from irc, as long as you want to keep your data13:46
xSorai have no dta .-.13:46
MestreLionwols: I was just kidding with her13:46
wolsxSora: do net ever let anyone from IRC use it. ever13:46
xSoraHIm HIm HIm !!!13:46
xSoraSora ,Kingdomhearts .-.13:47
MestreLionwols: besides, she offered that before to cairne13:47
xSora>_>13:47
bazhang!ot | MestreLion xSora13:47
ubottuMestreLion xSora: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:47
wolsElixirVitae: you should be still banned from here for even suggestiong it. no I am not kidding. just like no one is supposed to "kid" the rm -rf "jokes"13:47
xSorai Am a Man  o_o lol but srsly  ubuntu help   :o13:47
MestreLionwols: and, finally: I have little time to troubleshoot my own machine, let alone to do the same in others :P13:47
bazhangxSora, thats enough. stop it13:47
xSoraimSorry13:47
bazhang!behelpful | MestreLion13:48
ubottuMestreLion: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.13:48
cairnexSora, type into terminal boot-repair13:48
xSoradone13:48
cairneclick advanced options13:48
MestreLionbazhang: she's not to blame... she has a legitmate ubuntu question about grub. she mentioned teamview as a way for someone to directly remote access and help her13:48
bazhangMestreLion, move on13:49
xSorai just wanted to say im a boy, i apologize, and cairne next ?13:49
ElixirVitaewha?13:49
cairnexSora, click on the tab Grub Location, in the os to boot by default what does it list in drop down13:49
bazhangElixirVitae, tab mis complete earlier13:49
MestreLionand you're correct about me not being helpful to him. But don't be rude to him, all he wanted was help getting his grub to work13:49
ElixirVitaemistabbed much wols?13:50
bazhangMestreLion, please. Enough.13:50
IdleOnecairne: repeat your last message, they didn't egt it.13:51
cairnei'll handle it in pm13:51
IdleOnecairne: k13:51
lmgMestreLion: what file in blender*-debian src am I looking for again?13:52
wolsxSora: on which hdd is your windows installed? 80GB or 120GBß13:52
xSora80 gb13:53
MestreLionlmg: debian/control13:54
crankhardersay I wanted to get postgres 9.2 on ubuntu 10.04, is there a legit repo I can get that from?13:54
crankharderthis looks like something: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/pitti_postgresql/lucid/main/base/postgresql-9.2 -- but ubuntuupdates.org?13:55
MestreLionlmg: that's where all info from apt-cache show comes from13:55
lmgoh man, what a mess :)13:55
lmgMestreLion: the info in 'control' is correct.13:55
lmgMestreLion: the info in 'menu' has Modeler tho (compared to Modeller in config)13:56
lmgand still no clue where the info in software center is coming from.13:56
lmatI'm looking to mount an https distributed file system (I'm not sure if that's what to call it).13:57
lmatIt's documented for Win and Mac here: https://kb.iu.edu/data/bcim.html13:58
lmatIs this a common thing to do?13:58
crankharderor, here's a postgres 9.2 package for lucid: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/postgresql -- but how would i install that?13:58
MestreLionlmg: you mean ./debian/menu ?13:58
lmatWhat would the "vfstype" be?13:58
lmgMestreLion: yeah. compare 'control' and 'menu'13:58
lmgModeller vs. Modeler13:59
MestreLionlet me download the source13:59
lmgMestreLion: only grab the small *debian* tgz14:00
lmgMestreLion: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/blender/blender_2.62-1.debian.tar.gz14:00
ActionParsnip!ppa | crankharder14:00
ubottucrankharder: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge14:00
z3r0...14:01
z3r0test14:01
ActionParsnipcrankharder: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pitti/postgresql ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade14:01
z3r0ok hi ho  alle zusammen14:01
ActionParsnip!test | z3r014:01
ubottuz3r0: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )14:01
DualBootMeive been having problems trying to get grub to understand windows 8 on my parition..i used os-prober and then grub-update but still nothing...i have windows 8 and ubuntu 12.04 both on one hard drive any idea whats going on or if windows 8 is supported on grub14:01
z3r0thx14:01
ActionParsnipcrankharder: you'll also need: sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.2     you may want to uninstall the older one if it will cause issues.14:02
MestreLionlmg: you said there was a typo in description... where is it?14:02
lmgMestreLion: Mode*l*er vs Mode*ll*er14:03
lmgin the debian/menu + ubuntu software center14:03
z3r0what kind of irc chat u use ???14:03
crankharderActionParsnip: I was hoping for something that was more supported and came without a warning :)14:03
MestreLionlmg: but description (and, thus, apt-get and friends) is already ModeLLer14:03
ActionParsnipcrankharder: you can always compile it yourself14:04
lmgMestreLion: yeah, but 'menu' and softwarecenter don't and I want to fix that.14:04
lmgthat is - the blender foundation asked me to fix it ;)14:04
crankharderoh, i guess postgres supports that particular ppa ;) http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/14:05
MestreLionlmg: well, menu is easy...14:05
MestreLionedit, diff, submit14:05
lmgpatch -> bugreport. *nods*14:05
Prometheshi, my HP printer not working on 12.10 - i get error Filter failed. Anyone knows how to fix this? On 12.04 this printer worked perfectly14:05
ActionParsnipcrankharder: if you look at who martin pitt is, you'll be fine14:05
lmgbut the SC magic? still no idea where that headline is coming from.14:05
ActionParsnipPromethes: did you upgrade or did you clean install Quantal?14:06
PromethesActionParsnip: clean install14:06
FlashDeluxehi! is there a cli tool which works as proxy and changes my ip adress if i call that tool via terminal?14:06
ActionParsnipPromethes: tried updating HPLIP?14:06
crankharderActionParsnip: sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found14:06
MestreLionGuys, does any experienced Ubuntu packager knows where is Software Center taking its package "headlines" from? I always assumed it was from package's debian/control file, just like in any other tool, but lmg spotted a different headline in blender package. Any ideas?14:07
ActionParsnipcrankharder: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties14:07
PromethesActionParsnip: hplip package is updated to the most recent version in official ubuntu repositories14:07
lmatHow do I get this program? https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man8/mount.davfs.8.html14:07
ActionParsnipPromethes: did you check the HPLIP site, to see if there is a newer version?14:07
cairnelater #ubuntu14:08
ActionParsnipPromethes: the repos don't always have the latest packages, in fact its quite rare14:08
lmatcairne: wait!14:08
lmatcairne: I need your help.14:08
cairnesup14:08
lmatcairne: How do I get this program? https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man8/mount.davfs.8.html14:08
ActionParsnip!info hplip quantal14:09
ubottuhplip (source: hplip): HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 3.12.6-3ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 86 kB, installed size 416 kB14:09
PromethesActionParsnip: version on hplip website is the same version that is on ubuntu repository14:09
ActionParsnipPromethes: it's not. I just looked14:09
FlashDeluxelmat aptitude install davfs2 ?14:09
ActionParsnipFlashDeluxe: please don't advise aptitude14:09
FlashDeluxelmat apt-get install davfs2 ?14:10
ActionParsnipPromethes: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hplip/hplip-3.12.10a.run     is later than 3.12.6   isn't it?14:10
lmatFlashDeluxe: YAY! I tried install davfs with no hints or anything.14:10
lmatFlashDeluxe: davfs2 seems to be very good.14:10
PromethesActionParsnip: you have right, those long version numbers14:10
ActionParsnipPromethes: so why lie?14:10
cairnelmat, so you all set?14:10
MestreLionlmat: have you tried searching the Software Center for davfs ?14:10
FlashDeluxelmat its the tool you were looking for ;)14:10
lmatcairne: eh...more set than I was. I got 301 Moved Permanently, but that's a separate problem :)14:11
lmatMestreLion: What is the Software Center?14:11
MestreLion:O14:11
lmatFlashDeluxe: I think so. mount -t davfs executed this time (and asked for username and password.).14:11
FlashDeluxeActionParsnip sorry, i just copied the command, lazy as i am14:11
cairneok im passing out now, lata #ubuntu14:11
lmatcairne: night!14:11
MestreLionlmat: you're using Ubuntu, correct?14:12
lmatMestreLion: correct-a-mundo@14:12
lmat!14:12
ActionParsnipFlashDeluxe: it's cool, if the OS is 64bit then apt-get can manage multiarch better, aptitude also isn't in a default install :)14:12
lmatMestreLion: (you?)14:12
MestreLionlmat: which version?14:12
lmatdunno, got it a week or so ago.14:12
lmat12.0414:13
lmat12.04.1 LTS14:13
lmatMestreLion: ^14:13
MestreLionlmat: you may notice there's a Ubuntu Software Center launcher  on the left side of your screen14:13
lmatMestreLion: Negative, captain.14:13
FlashDeluxeActionParsnip i guess in most cases it doesn`t make a difference if you use ap-get or a frontend, because most of the people just want to install a simple tool :)14:13
lmatMestreLion: Let me give you a screen shot.14:13
ActionParsnip!aptitude | FlashDeluxe14:13
ubottuFlashDeluxe: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.14:13
BluesKajlmat, FYI , @ isn't required on irc , typing the person's nick is enough for their nick highlight to work14:13
MestreLionlmat: if it's not there, you may have unpinned it from the launcher. You can find it using the dash (the "menu")14:14
lmatBluesKaj: (@ was a typo. I meant !)14:14
PromethesActionParsnip: do i need remove hplip package installed from ubuntu repos before installing manually newer version from hplip website?14:15
MestreLionlmat: are you familiar with Ubuntu or any other Linux?14:15
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ActionParsnipPromethes: why did you say the website had the same version as the repos did, when it clearly doesn't?14:15
lmatMestreLion: yes,sir. Getting that screen shot, just a sec.14:16
FlashDeluxeActionParsnip ohh ok, didn`t know that this bug was such high critical, thanks for the info14:16
lmatMestreLion: http://imagebin.org/23433814:16
lmatMestreLion: That's my screen.14:16
MestreLionlmat: the reason I'm asking so is you said you don't know what Ubuntu Software Center is... and yet you're trying to install davfs.. so something looks wrong14:16
lmatMestreLion: I installed davfs.14:17
lmatMestreLion: (Apparently it's called davfs2 these days ;)  )14:17
MestreLionoh, Xmonad ?14:17
PromethesActionParsnip: because i looked too quick and did'nt read version number properly14:17
lmatMestreLion: What's that?14:17
lmatMestreLion: I'm guessing it has to do with X.  I don't use X.14:17
MestreLionlmat: nevermind... the screenshot you posted looked like xmonad14:17
MestreLionit's a tiling DE14:18
lmatMestreLion: Ah, nope14:18
lmatMestreLion: Hold ALT+CTRL and press 114:18
MestreLionactually a tiling WM.. not a DE14:18
lmatMestreLion: type "sudo service lightdm stop"14:18
lmatMestreLion: then sudo apt-get install tmux14:18
lmatMestreLion: Then sudo apt-get install irssi14:18
lmatthen14:18
lmattmux && irssi   then press ctrl+b, "   and you're set :)14:19
ActionParsnipPromethes: it may help to remove te old first, can't hurt14:19
lmatMestreLion: So, the tiling part is tmux. My IRC client is irssi14:19
lmatMestreLion: from xmonad site, "haskell + smart programming practices guarantee a *crash-free* experience."14:20
MestreLionlmat: by the way, the url you posted for davfs is from dapper... that's 5.xx iirc14:20
GunArmI was just running apt-get dist-upgrade and got all kinds of errors, most of which scrolled up off the screen but what I have is a bunch of like http://pastebin.com/UHAVqWx6 and as you can see at the bottom now I get "bus error" when I run apt-get,  and other commands are giving seg faults.... wtf it was running fine before i tried to upgrade packages.  Is it even safe to reboot?14:20
lmatMestreLion: haha! What is it in the combination of haskell and smart programmers that *guarantee* no crashes?!?14:20
lmatMestreLion: OOO :(14:20
lmatMestreLion: I was thinking dapper was a package (apt-get install dapper) ... I see now that it's an ubuntu version (dapper drake?).14:21
MestreLionlmat: when you want to search for packages, use http://packages.ubuntu.com14:21
lmatMestreLion: ahh, thanks!14:21
MestreLionno, dapper is an ubuntu release...14:21
lmatrelease, right.14:21
MestreLiona veeeeery old one14:22
greg606hi14:22
lmatMestreLion: What about apt-cache search ?14:22
lmatMestreLion: Seems much better than some elinks site.14:22
MestreLionlmat: it will search only for packages in your current release14:22
lmatMestreLion: ahh, thanks.14:22
greg606i have a problem: mouse freezes from time to time and also sometimes whole system I use amd test drivers cause in 12.10 defualt are broken (fglrx) may it be the cause?14:23
MestreLionif you're interested in "what happened to the old davfs i used in ubuntu 5 years ago", then the "elinks site" is you best shot ;)14:23
greg606I have to reset the computer :(14:23
greg606it's new and i'm worried14:23
greg606cause it could be hardware14:23
MestreLiongreg606: there are stable drivers besides the default, you don't need to use test drivers14:24
greg606they are broken14:24
MestreLiongreg606: all of them?14:24
z3r0_hmm irssis look nice *G*14:25
z3r0_some how14:25
z3r0_*G*14:25
greg606MestreLion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer-updates/+bug/106919914:25
MestreLionnot sure what is the default in 12.10... in precise it's 12.4, and AMD already released 12.6, 12.8 and 12.10, all stable...14:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1069199 in fglrx-installer-updates (Ubuntu) "1002:682f Unity does not start after installing fglrx-updates Radeon HD 7700M Series" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:25
greg606I used ati proprietary14:26
greg606stable yes...14:26
greg606;)14:26
MestreLiongreg606: yes, there are some issues with 12.10 and ati proprietary for the Radeon HD 7000 series14:27
kelyehello, how can I change the terminal behaviour to act like putty terminal ?14:27
greg606MestreLion: could it be my mouse problem?14:27
kelye(selecting copies the selected part)14:27
lmgMestreLion: any news? (did someone reply to your call)14:27
MestreLiongreg606: its hard to tell. Have you tested a similar setup using 12.04 ?14:28
mneptokgreg606: why not revert to the included "radeon" FLOSS driver and see if the mouse behaves properly?14:28
MestreLiongreg606: you may also remove the ati proprietary and use the free source drivers, and see if the mouse still hangs14:29
MestreLionjust to test if the problem is related14:29
guang_how to uninstall ubuntu?14:29
ActionParsnipgreg606: what AMD GPU do you have?14:29
greg606MestreLion: i have uefi  + win8 - damn hard to setup, i'm happy i did. not willing to move everything .14:29
greg606ActionParsnip: 795014:29
MestreLionguang_: no operating system provides and "uninstall" feature. You simply delete its partition and revert the boot loader14:30
Angells vbfbv14:30
ActionParsnipgreg606: then I suggest you report a bug14:30
ActionParsnipMestreLion: Ubunru via wubi does :)14:30
Angellsfree irc shell find?14:30
greg606ActionParsnip: I can't while using unsopported drivers14:30
MestreLionActionParsnip: hum, true. But again, not a "real" OS :P14:30
mneptokAngells: not in this channel.14:30
Angellsbut where?14:31
mneptokAngells: also, not a question for this channel14:31
ActionParsnipMestreLion: it is, its just stored in a file on NTFS and loop mounted at boot :P14:31
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MestreLiongreg606: if you don't want to install 12.04 (it usually installs fine with windows and other ubuntus, specially if you already have grup installed and working), then your best test would be to remove the catalyst driver and test the free radeon ones14:32
MestreLionActionParsnip: humm, nice. I never knew how wubi did its magic :P14:32
greg606MestreLion: i'll try14:33
ActionParsnipMestreLion: 'magic' in the loosest term :D14:33
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mneptokWubi's magic is usually along the lines of "Watch me pull a hat out of a rabbit!"14:33
MestreLionActionParsnip: but then, same procedure: delete it (file instead of partition) and fix boot (windows boot selection instead of mbr's grub)14:34
MestreLionActionParsnip: I assume wubi also installs a windows software that does exactly that?14:34
mneptokMestreLion: Ubuntu is listed as an installed app in Windows' "Add/Remove Programs" i believe14:34
ActionParsnipMestreLion: oh totally, you can do it manually but there is an item in 'programs and features' to do it for you14:34
GunArmcan anyone help me?  my file system seems to have switched to read-only in the middle of a package upgrade, and now any sudo command returns 'bus error', top returns IO error, uptime gives a seg fault.  What could cause this?  Can I reboot?14:37
MestreLionwould be neat if wubi also has a feature of installing "for real" and dd'ed the file to a parttion, so you keep all installed programs and settings14:37
MestreLionmaybe it does have it already14:37
compdocGunArm, when there are read/write errors, the FS swiches to read-only14:38
compdoccan you run the disk utility?14:38
GunArmwhich one?14:38
morethananoisehey, I've got problem with my ubuntu 12.10, i've just upgraded and nothing works.. Unity doesn't even show up, my mouse cursor disappears randomily, anyone can help..?14:38
GunArmprobably not if14:38
compdocgnome disk util14:38
GunArmcompdoc: no i'm sshed in to my headless server14:39
compdocclick the Dash button and type in disk14:39
ActionParsnipmorethananoise: what video chip do you use?14:39
compdocyou have smartctl installed?14:39
GunArmi think so14:39
morethananoiseActionParsnip: I use amd radeon hd 420014:39
compdocGunArm, try: smartctl -a /dev/sda14:39
MestreLionGunArm: rebooting seems your only choice, considering you cannot run any commands. You can deal with interrupeted package  installs later14:39
compdocor whatever drive14:39
ActionParsnipmorethananoise: then you'll want this: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html14:40
GunArmcompdoc: yeah i have to sudo it and it gives a bus error14:40
compdocGunArm, use sudo fdisk -l    to list the drives14:40
compdocif you dont use sata, is wont be sda14:41
velhohello folks! how can I run Windows inside Linux? I can't remember the name of the progra... thanks!14:41
GunArmanything with sudo gives a buss error14:41
compdocif its raid, it wont work anyway14:41
MestreLionvelho: I'm very fond of VirtualBox14:41
GunArmi guess I'll have to reboot, but unfortunatly, I cant reboot over ssh if I cant do sudo, so I have to wait until my girlfriend wakes up at home and have her yank the plug out of the wall14:42
GunArmif I cant sudo I dont see any better way to reboot14:42
MestreLionGunArm: are you able to open other ssh sessions?14:42
Nach0zGunArm: why cantcha sudo?14:43
mah454After receive this message in syslog : Nov  2 18:09:17 SkyNet kernel: [  161.001911] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: PCI INT A disabled14:43
GunArmMestreLion: ill trye14:43
mah454My mouse disabled !14:43
mah454How can fix this problem ?14:43
GunArmNach0z: some kind of file system error on my root mount14:43
ActionParsnipGunArm: you can always boot to root recovery mode and reinstall sudo there, may help14:43
Nach0zGunArm: oh. you tried rebooting into the recovery prompt?14:43
velhoMestreLion, thanks ;)14:43
compdocmah454, new system? old system? it worked before?14:43
ActionParsnipmah454: usb mouse or touchpad?14:44
MestreLionguys, he's ussing ssh, so no sudo = no reboot14:44
ActionParsnipMestreLion: gah14:44
GunArmActionParsnip: well sudo itself works (by itself it gives command options), but I think its more to do with being locked out of sbin or something14:44
MestreLionGunArm: try to open another connection, just to see if the machine is dead14:45
Nach0zGunArm: you tried manually specifying command paths?14:45
mah454ActionParsnip: I use laptop , I connect mouse to system and after some second mouse disabled (Laptop Dell Vostro 3350)14:45
Nach0zs/command/executable14:45
GunArminterestingly no I can't log into a new ssh, possibly because there is that script at login that checks how many packages there are to upgrade which is crashing14:45
velhoMestreLion, do you know VMWare?14:45
MestreLionvelho: yes, but there is no native VMWare server in ubuntu repo14:46
auronandace!vmware14:46
ubottuVMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware14:46
GunArmMestreLion: fwiw I can navigate around my filesystem on this connection I had open, the machine isn't totally dead, just kinda useless heh14:46
MestreLionGunArm: non-sudo commands work fine?14:46
velhoMestreLion, thanks! I was actually trying to find it there :D14:46
mah454compdoc: ActionParsnip : please view this paste : http://dpaste.com/hold/822966/14:47
MestreLionvelho: install VirtualBox... it works great, and has a very nice GUI14:47
Touhou11Those VMWare instructions are out of date... VMWare player lets you create your own virtual machines now, not just use existing ones14:47
ActionParsnipmah454: does the touchpad work ok?14:47
GunArmMestreLion: yes, I can do "apt-get moo", but not "sudo apt-get moo"14:47
mah454ActionParsnip: yes work14:47
ActionParsnipTouhou11: you can edit it, its a wiki14:47
MestreLionGunArm: I mean commands that don't require sude :P14:47
Touhou11ActionParsnip: It requires a user account, you can't edit anonymously for some reason14:48
ActionParsnipmah454: how about if you unplug the mouse, wait a few seconds then shove it back in?14:48
MestreLionvelho: do you specifically need VMWare ?14:48
ActionParsnipTouhou11: well yeah, that's how wikis work14:48
Touhou11Wikipedia lets you edit anonymously14:48
GunArmMestreLion: well some of them, i can cd around, and cat files, but "top" gives "-bash: /usr/bin/top: Input/output error"14:48
donofrioActionParsnip, dude sence I got my apt-get update working with your help, it no longer see's any new updates at all??14:49
ActionParsnipTouhou11: then make an account, or report a bug14:49
MestreLionGunArm: can you write files?14:49
mah454ActionParsnip: mouse work ... but after some second disabled !14:49
ActionParsnipmah454: tried a different usb mouse?14:49
mah454ActionParsnip: yes14:49
mah454what is ehci_hcd  ?14:50
ActionParsnipmah454: are you using a USB3 port?14:51
KsMmah454: driver for the USB ports, basically14:51
mah454ActionParsnip: yes14:51
mah454How can fix this problem ?14:52
ActionParsnipmah454: tried a USB2 port, you do realize that a mouse sends very little data14:52
mah454But ubuntu 12.04 have not this problem ! (I use ubuntu 12.10)14:53
ActionParsnipmah454: its worth exploring though...don't you think14:53
GunArmMestreLion: it seems like no, not even in ~ (which is the same partition), and some subfolders of ~ i cant even ls in14:53
ActionParsnipmah454: what do you hope to gain by using USB3 for mouse exactly?14:53
donofrioActionParsnip, any thoughts about how to get my host to see the updates sence Oct 17th?14:54
rainbowwarrior2rl14:54
rainbowwarrior2hello14:54
ActionParsnipdonofrio: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade14:54
GunArmMestreLion: it seems like I dont have any options other than cutting power to the machine, which is just scary because I have a 10 TB raid array running on it14:54
GunArmalthough the raid array is still up and running (I can read and write to it) just not the / device14:55
MestreLionGunArm: i'd wait for someone with console access to check it out14:55
flyer1229hello14:56
ActionParsnipjust seen a youtube vid. Mouse transmits 0.01Mbps to the system. What a waste14:56
donofrioActionParsnip, yah "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."14:56
ActionParsnipdonofrio: sounds good14:56
velhohow can I see how much space is in my disc, inside ubuntu? thank you14:56
donofrioI thought a bunch of updates have come out, at least 30??14:56
ActionParsnipvelho: df -h14:56
tlopezis there a webpage that shows if your laptop can run ubuntu from USB14:56
tlopez?14:56
MestreLionGunArm: worst-case scenario, one could do a SysReq to nicely close all programs and shut it down14:56
ActionParsnipdonofrio: did the repos get 'hit' or were they 'ign'?14:57
Parufitohi! anybody knows if Gnome Classic is still available in Ubuntu 12.10 ? thanls14:57
ActionParsniptlopez: check in the BIOS14:57
ActionParsnipParufito: install gnome-panel and log of, choose the new available session14:57
donofrioActionParsnip, Most "Hit" a bunch "ING"14:57
MestreLionvelho: open your home folder... you can also right-click "computer" for its properties14:57
velhoActionParsnip, thanks! any GUI?14:57
ActionParsnipdonofrio: I can suggest you run this: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage14:58
tlopezI tried to install Ubuntu on my new laptop month ago , the laptop is new and expensive so maybe the drivers for linux have not come out yet for the hardware14:58
abangmanjacant upgrade ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. any help14:58
GunArmMestreLion: but even if I was to give someone root access to my server they couldnt ssh in.  interesting I never knew about this sys req thing14:58
ActionParsnipvelho: there is disk analyser in dash if memory serves. You already know the space though....14:58
abangmanjaubuntu upgrade take forever to download14:59
Parufitothanks ActionParsnip. I have it in 12.04, but i was afraid that canonical decided to delete it from the repos. Thanks!14:59
ActionParsnipabangmanja: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades     use the Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended) method14:59
velhoActionParsnip, cool! way simpler :) thanks14:59
abangmanjaim using main server is that what  you mean15:00
ActionParsnipParufito: You can always change desktop, there are 3rd party (unsupported) forks of gnome215:00
MestreLionvelho: even simpler: open your home folder (Nautilus) and go View-> Statusbar. That will always show the free space of your current drive15:01
ActionParsnipabangmanja: it shows how to upgrade from LTS to non-LTS  in CLI15:01
Parufitoyes, but i preffer the gnome classic from ubuntu that is based in gnome3 but mantaining the simple gnome2 look :D15:01
Parufitoi've tried some other without good feeling15:01
ActionParsnipParufito: if you install gnome-panel, you wil be using gnome315:01
ActionParsnipParufito: just with a different shell....gnome-shell15:01
laumonierhi ive got a problem on ubuntu my wifi internet conection is very slow unlike on my windows seven is there a way to fix this??any clue to help me?15:01
MestreLionParufito: Cinnamon or MATE may be an option for you15:02
onam!ot15:02
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:02
ActionParsniplaumonier: what wifi chip do you use?15:02
rainbowwarrior2heh my mind has just gone blank and i have forgot what i was going to ask lol15:02
Parufitoi've tried all and what worked better for me was the Gnome Classic in ubuntu 12.04... but i don'15:02
* rainbowwarrior2 hugs Ubuntu 12.10 :o)15:03
abangmanjaActionParsnip thanks15:03
Parufitothe only problem was if caninical decided to delete it in 12.10, but if you say that not, i'll keep it :D15:03
ActionParsnipParufito: you could use XFCE, its got the Gnome2 smell15:03
abangmanjaim happy with LTS 12.0415:03
MestreLionabangmanja: +1. 5 years of support is a bliss :)15:04
Parufitoi use xfce in my laptop :D is nice, but for my workstation i preffer the "gnome" stuff15:04
MestreLionblessing*15:04
abangmanjaim trying to upgrade twice but fail now im stick to LTS15:04
ActionParsnipParufito: XFCE is made using GTK15:04
mad-leighwhen my wifi is slow I open a online radio as it seems to help boost the signal quality - adsl+2 .... just my 2 cents15:05
ActionParsnipis it possible to use mutter with Ubuntu 12.04 + Unity?15:05
velhoMestreLion, awesome! :)15:07
MestreLionlmg: still there?15:09
donofrioActionParsnip, ok finshed and no new packages - so I should be uptodate or is it broken?? just want to be secure cause I cannot have this desktop get exploited15:10
MestreLionlmg: I've found it! Looks like USC also uses data from "Ubuntu App Directory", which is an online catalog with complementary package information15:12
GunArmMestreLion: I stepped my girlfriend at home through REISUB and now it's back up and seems to be fine15:12
MestreLionlmg:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-webcatalog15:12
ActionParsnipdonofrio: not sure dude, try a different server15:13
SriniHi all15:13
donofrioActionParsnip, always welcome an honest answer any day of the week ----- thanks for the tips you've been a awesome help, I'll rtry the dirretnt host15:13
mN-a15:14
SriniI am using ubuntu server 12.10 - seeing loads of issues doing apt-get --- getting 403 forbidden.... I am able to wget without problems, (I am behind a smoothwall )15:14
JimmyJohnnyI just booted into KUbuntu 12.10 off of my 8GB flash drive. Man, this this is slower than hell off a flash drive. Its USB 2.0. Im not so sure they should even encourage people to try the OS this way. It would probably drive people away. Unless  I am doing something wrong but I dont know what it could be.15:15
SriniI am new to Ubuntu... tried many things found from google... nothing worked.... :(15:15
lmgMestreLion: thank you - will check later - baby awake.15:15
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theFantasticTrolkubuntu? isn't that like a fat version of unity?15:16
ActionParsnipdonofrio: I try :D15:16
ActionParsnipSrini: can you ping the server?15:17
JimmyJohnnyi think so, i really didnt read the details, its supposed to be a more graphically enhanced version of the vanilla Ubuntu, so i said, yeah let me try that15:17
theFantasticTrolit uses the kde desktop if im not wrong15:17
theFantasticTroljust usable for fast computers with good graphics cards really15:18
skypcehello guys, a problem with irqs can do the mouse slow after resume?15:18
theFantasticTrolnot recommended on a usb stick lol15:18
skypceor irq problems freeze all the pc?15:18
TheJellyIs the hard drive performance penalty in a Wubi install significant?15:18
JimmyJohnnysounds right, Im not gonnna be able to form any opinions until I re-burn the ISO to a CD and just boot from that, running off USB is not worth it. My computer is good enough, got an i3-2105, just can't belileve the slow speed off usb15:18
seviHey guys,  i have a question regarding my webform. it cant connect to my serverside phpscript named connect.php. there is an syntax error on line 30. can anybody look at it? : http://pastebin.com/n6Ni1MEp15:19
MestreLionlmg: hummm, got it! I'ts the comment from the desktop file! check the source package for: ./release/freedesktop/blender.desktop15:19
_val_Hello. Did someone get spice-xpi addon working under firefox?15:19
ActionParsnipTheJelly: it will be directly affected by fragmentation in NTFS15:19
theFantasticTrolif you want a good usb linux system you should look into something like puppy linux15:19
BluesKajJimmyJohnny, do you have a cdrom drive , the live cd is quite fast ..but i've never tried kubuntu on a usb stick15:19
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_val_I've found a ppa, and added but can't seem to get it working. Any idea?15:19
ActionParsnip_val_: could try contacting the PPA maintainer15:20
skypcehello ActionParsnip15:20
BluesKajJimmyJohnny, the live media versions are always slower then the real installed OS anyway15:20
theFantasticTrolif you want a ubuntu version try lubuntu or xubuntu, they are the least memory/cpu consuming ones15:21
theFantasticTrolfor ubs that is15:21
seviis this the right channel for my question? perhaps i need to be in php15:21
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ActionParsnip_val_: did you read http://www.spice-space.org/docs/spice_user_manual.pdf15:22
JuJuBeegot a laptop with a core duo 1.86 CPU and 4GB RAM and KDE and GNOME.  Gnome seems to run fine but when in KDE, the cpu utilization goes up and everything lags horribly.  Top shows CPU going up to 100% for kwin15:22
skypcehey , do you can invite me to #ubuntu-support?15:22
_val_ActionParsnip: yes reading now.. seem I've to get the sources.15:23
_val_Allright thanks. Going to compile it15:23
ActionParsnipskypce: get identified and you can walk in15:23
ActionParsnipskypce: I'm not allowed either, I'd ask in #freenode15:24
skypceActionParsnip,  * Cannot join #ubuntu-support (Channel is invite only).15:24
MestreLionlmg: and it makes perfect sense to extract the "highlight" from there too: the description in the package is always in english, while the .desktop file info can contain several languages. So USC can show a package description in the user's own language15:24
ActionParsnipJuJuBee: what GPU do you use?15:24
ActionParsnipJuJuBee: are there any bugs reported?15:25
MestreLionlmg: if there is no .desktop file, or if the desktop contains no "Comment" field, then USC uses the 1st line of the "Description" field on package's debian/control file :D15:25
gnagnohello all15:28
donofrioActionParsnip, ok this one is weird - I cannot change servers, I can test for best but the software sources screen just says on "main server"15:28
x__whats the best way to have a script run every 30 seconds or so, but not have multiple instances going at a time ??15:28
JuJuBeeActionParsnip: GPU : Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 95015:29
wolsx__: cron and the first thing the script does is creating a lock file and checking it15:29
JuJuBeeActionParsnip: the laptop is actually one of my students'15:29
wolsx__: and before it ends, releases the lock of course15:29
gnagnoI just updated from precise to quantal, my video driver are totally screwed up, when I try to reinstall nvidia drivers the process hangs at update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic and stays there for hours... can someone help me please?15:29
ActionParsnipdonofrio: edit /etc/apt/sources.list     and change 'archive.ubuntu.com' to 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com'15:29
JimmyJohnnyI've tried booting UBuntu off the CD in the past and it worked a hell of a lot faster than bootinng off a USB stick.15:29
x__wols, yea I don't know how to bash script ;-P its an archive extracting python script someone else wrote that I am using manually atm.15:30
ActionParsnipJuJuBee: are there any bugs reported with KDE and the Intel 950 GPU?15:30
wolsx__: you can do it in python too...15:30
JuJuBeeActionParsnip: looking now15:30
x__wols, well I don't know python, not a programmer :-P15:30
ActionParsnipx__: if you have a desktop UI, you can use gnome-schedule15:30
x__ActionParsnip, nah its command line15:31
wolsActionParsnip: it's not the cron thing that is the problem :)15:31
x__wols, this is the script https://bitbucket.org/markstahler/auto-extract-python/src/7ba39f76ebc50e11739300e5fde062312a1732f1/auto-extract.py?at=default15:31
ActionParsnipwols: i see15:31
x__the script creates an .unrared file in the dir to state its already done its business and not to do it again, so maybe I can just add a cron job and it will work fine already ?15:31
lmgbrilliant find MestreLion. thank you, I'll take it from here :)15:31
MestreLion:D15:32
[diablo]Good afternoon #ubuntu … Does anyone run Ubuntu 12.04 on a Viglen MPC please?15:33
wolsx__: http://shoaibmir.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/pid-lock-file-in-python/15:33
wols!ask | [diablo]15:33
ubottu[diablo]: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:33
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Daneshvarhi15:34
[diablo]wols, rem I did not ask to ask a question15:34
auronandace!anyone | [diablo]15:36
ubottu[diablo]: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.15:36
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DshoeHey all, I have an 8GB flash drive I want to use but the last thing I did with it was restore an OS X install disk to it before I sold my MacBook. I tried opening Gparted and I got a message saying "The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes." My options are cancel and ignore, If I hit ignore then Gparted crashes.15:36
x__wols, so do I just paste that code in to the beginning of the script... ?15:37
x__wols, sorry experienced linux user, very very novice coder ;-P15:37
JimmyJohnnyDshoe you should install a bootable image of Ubuntu on a flash drive by itself, thats probably the safest thing to do15:37
DshoeJimmyJohnny, and run gparted from there I'm assuming?15:37
NikPHello.15:38
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JimmyJohnnyDshoe i am not familiar with gparted, just saying if you want to try Ubuntu from a flash drive maybe its best to format the flash drive FAT32 as one partition, install the Linux image and run from there15:39
DshoeJimmyJohnny, your misinterpreting my issue. I need to format this flash drive and can't.15:40
DshoeGparted (common tool) gives me an error and then crashes before creating a new partition table.15:40
JimmyJohnnyDshoe oh, not sure on that, I just did mine using Windows 7 with a right-click and then "Format"15:40
NikPCan I test with a command if my other PC in the network is online? (Sorry, I'm not so good in English ;-)15:40
DshoeMy issue is that this is formatted to an OS X partition table because the last thing I did with it was install a fresh OS X before shipping out my laptop.15:41
Linkandzeldahello, is there a PAE patch for 32 bit ubuntu to make use of my 16 GB ram on 32 bit machine?15:42
JimmyJohnnyDshoe, maybe there is a utility like "diskwipe" or something to simply zero out the drive, im a windows users for the most part, but windows 8 has me looking at taking a more serious look at linux15:42
somsip!pae | Linkandzelda15:43
ubottuLinkandzelda: To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info15:43
Linkandzeldathanks a lot15:43
DJonesLinkandzelda: If you're using 12.10, pae is enabled by default15:43
Linkandzeldaeven better than15:43
Linkandzeldaim planning to use it tonight15:44
ConnorhdI'm having a problem with uwsgi on ubuntu 12.04, when I use "service uwsgi reload" it reloads the first time, but not after that, it appears to be because the process name changes from uwsgi to uwsgi-core after the first reload. I'm not sure if there is a good place for me to report this bug?15:44
DJonesLinkandzelda: The details are in the link from ubottu anyway15:44
NikPCan I test with a command if my other PC in the network is online? (Nice when I use SSH)15:44
x__NikP, what are you trying to test ?15:44
rihenhello15:45
NikPx__: What do you mean?15:45
easyI have an external hard drive with bad sectors.. my guess that its only the beginning of the disk.. how can I scan for bad sectors and then format the disk away from the bad sectors?15:46
x__NikP, your question made no sense to me, what are you trying to test through SSH ?15:47
x__easy, how many bad sectors ? and you can use the gnome disk tool.15:47
NikPx__: I would use it for remote maintenance15:48
x__easy, most drives will flag sectors that are bad to not be used, and they have a few extra ones to replace them, I have a 1TB HD that has 1 bad sector that came out of an external drive and has been fine and in usre for several years since then.15:48
x__NikP, ok, I still don't know what that means, just login via SSH and run whatever commands you want to use.15:49
sevenforallHey. Can I use grep to select every file in a directy, except subdirectories and files ending with ".mkv"?15:49
NikPx__: Yes, that's it.15:49
jribsevenforall: you could use grep, but you wouldn't.  You probably want to use find15:49
sevenforalljrib: Touché15:49
sevenforalljrib: How do I use find in a way it excludes .mkv files?15:50
jribsevenforall: find has -not and -name.  I'd start there15:50
sevenforalljrib: I can't find anything about the -not option15:51
_val_Hi again. Trying to compile spice-xpi addon for firefox on precise. I'm getting this error: No package 'libxul-embedding' found15:51
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_val_anyone any idea. Can't find libxul anywhere.. no sources, no ppa's nothing.15:52
jribsevenforall: man find<Enter>/-not<Enter>      (where <Enter> means press your Enter key)15:52
manojhi15:52
jribsevenforall: you can also use "!", but I figured -not would be more self-explanatory :P15:52
jribsevenforall: brb15:53
krofnaHow do I open executable file as sudo? If I type sudo ./my_executable it wont work..15:53
jribkrofna: that's how.  So be more specific about how it "wont work"15:53
JMS32When i'm trying to install ubuntu from USB it's write what can't mount CD15:53
JMS32What to do?15:53
krofnajrib: sudo: ./mapextractor: command not found15:53
_val_krofna: chmod +x ./my_executable  if this is a script.15:54
sevenforalljrib: I've skimmed through it and googled, are you sure there's a -not? :P15:54
_val_err.  chmod +x my_executable15:54
jribsevenforall: yes... are you on ubuntu?  Why are you skimming and googling, just use the keystrokes I said above15:54
ActionParsnipJMS32: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?15:54
krofna_val_: that doesnt seem to do anything15:55
sevenforalljrib: The manual doesn't add any useful information, hehe15:55
jrib_val_: what you said would work too :)15:55
jribsevenforall: there are some examples that use !, if you want to search for that. What do you have doubts about?15:55
_val_jrib: ./my_executable is not a valid filename I guess.15:55
_val_I mean passing it as a parameter to chmod15:56
krofnaIt is. And no, its not a script, its compiled executable..15:56
jrib_val_: you provide a path to chmod, ./my_executable is fine15:56
sevenforalljrib: I'm using "find -not *.mkv" which doesn't get me anything but a usage error15:56
JMS32ActionParsnip, yes. 4bd3270bde86d7e4e017e3847a4af485 All is ok15:56
ActionParsnipkrofna: if you run:  ls  do you see the file?15:56
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jribsevenforall: you want a -name in there15:56
krofnaYes15:57
jribsevenforall: you also want to probably enclose '*.mkv' in quotes15:57
ActionParsnipJMS32: installing server?15:57
sevenforalljrib: Okay, a bit further now15:57
sevenforallThanks15:57
jribkrofna: it's probably something that tries to run inside the file that it can't find15:57
dr_willisthe thing to rember is the 'shell' is the one expanding wild cards.. unless they are quoted and passed to the command.  sevenforall .15:58
dr_willissevenforall:  like    echo *    vs   echo '*'15:58
JMS32ActionParsnip, yes15:58
ActionParsnipJMS32: it doesn't have a desktop UI you know, is that what you desire? It's all CLI based.....15:58
JMS32ActionParsnip, I'm know what i'm doing, thanks15:58
yupHello15:58
sevenforalljrib: Can I get find to ignore hidden files also? (a)15:59
ActionParsnipJMS32: just checking, loads of people install server wanting a desktop system. Calm down15:59
ActionParsnipJMS32: let me search some15:59
PnoexzJMS32: if you knew what you were doing, you wouldnt be here15:59
yupI'm trying to mount ntfs partition with mount.ntfs-3g cmd like this16:00
yupmount.ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows -o uid=016:00
yupbut after mounting /mnt/windows is owned but user with uid 100016:00
_val_so anyone any answer about my question?16:00
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savidAnyone here using Ubuntu-Gnome 12.10?  I'm a bit confused about GOA vs. UOA.16:00
ActionParsnipJMS32: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r16:01
_val_anyone any idea. Can't find libxul anywhere.. no sources, no ppa's nothing.16:01
ActionParsnipsavid: https://debarshiray.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/goa-why-it-is-the-way-it-is/16:02
ActionParsnip!find libxul16:02
ubottuFile libxul found in firefox, firefox-dbg, thunderbird, thunderbird-dbg, thunderbird-dev16:02
_val_ActionParsnip: I am compiling a source which requires this lib.16:02
ActionParsnip_val_: seems to be in the app already, have you ran:  sudo updatedb; locate libxul16:03
_val_ActionParsnip: done.16:03
_val_/usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so16:03
_val_/usr/lib/thunderbird/libxul.so16:03
dr_williswonder if its part of the firefox source16:03
_val_But the source code does not find it.16:03
ActionParsnip_val_: you may need to symlink those back to /usr/lib    to make it be found16:04
dr_willissudo apt-get build-deps firefox   should pull in needed dev packages that may have it included.16:04
dr_willisbut that seems overkll16:04
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_val_http://pastie.org/517245116:04
jribsevenforall: sure. just use a similar expression that matches for names that start with a '.'.  And look into -and16:05
_val_this is the error when compiling16:05
ActionParsnip_val_: link is broke for me16:06
ActionParsnipahh its ok now16:06
_val_messing for 3 hours now. Can't seem to find anything that works.16:07
javierf_hi all! Since some days, my indicator-messages is broken in ubuntu 12.10. Well, it was working fine after I upgraded, and now it swithches colour when I get a notification. But when I open it, there are all the rows (one for each status state, unity-mail one, facebook one...), but with blank text: there is nothing, just empty rows. Even, if I get a message, it changes colour and in the message line, it appears the minutes have passed since I got the messa16:08
javierf_ge, but no text (then, I kind of guess what arrived depending on the row). This happened a week after I tried to configure the colour changing indicator depending of the status. Nothing in google. Someone knows what can be happening? Thanks!16:08
_val_anyway. Got to go now. I'll check another time.  Thanks ActionParsnip .16:08
TomyLobohi16:11
sasoriany nvidia gpu masters in here who can help me with this problem??? You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.16:11
sasoriasus u30sd gt520m16:11
AleksanderHello. Do you know what's wrong with xorg-video-abi-12 on 12.10? Neither -12 or -11 has an installation candidate16:11
TomyLoboi noticed that the hibernation in 12.04 is disabled by default. and earlier my system booted instead of unhibernating.16:11
Aleksandersasori, paste your xorg.conf16:11
dr_willissasori:  normal routine for me is install the os, 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current' (reboot) then run nvidia-settings.16:11
TomyLobois that why it's disabled by default?16:11
sasoridr_willis: thats exactly what i did to lead me to this problem16:12
sasoriunfortunately16:12
sasorii then tty out, and stoped ldm, or whatever its called and tried nvidia setting again, no avbail16:13
sasoriAleksander: not tooo good with that, where can i find that??16:13
dr_willisi dont even need an xorg.conf for my nvidia ssytem on 12.1016:13
Aleksandersasori, gksu gedit /etc/xorg.conf16:13
ActionParsnipTomyLobo: as far as I know, if your setup doesn't support it then it will be disabled16:14
ActionParsnipAleksander: not /etc/X11/xorg.conf16:14
AleksanderActionParsnip, ow right16:14
Aleksandermy bad, sorry16:14
ActionParsnipAleksander: ;)16:14
Aleksandersasori, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf16:14
JMS32ActionParsnip, i can't find suitable answer in that link..16:15
daschelI have switchable graphics cards (intel/amd) and have tried installing drivers for them.  when I try to install via additional drivers, i can no longer use any DE besides gnome 2.  everything automatically falls back to it.  installing from the amd website completely breaks the X server.  does anyone have a solution for using gnome 3 with the appropriate graphics driver?  alternatively, I dont particularly do anything in linux that necessitat16:18
dascheles the amd card, so the intel chip would be sufficient, but the fan seems to run needlessly and I figured that was a driver issue.  would it be better just to use a temp monitor/fan speed control16:18
sasoriAleksander: thanks for the files dir, where should i paste?16:18
sasoripm?16:18
JMS32When i'm trying to install ubuntu from USB it's write what can't mount CD. How to fix it? MD5 is ok. It's server version16:18
Aleksandersasori, http://pastebin.com/ and then give me a link16:19
sasoriAleksander: lol... ok... but now cause this totally mangled my setting everything is in huge mode, give me a sec :)16:19
Aleksanderhuge mode?16:20
sasoriAleksander: the resolution is at lowest possible..... since i tried to install nvidia16:21
sasoriAleksander: http://pastebin.com/SWfeVERj16:21
Aleksandersasori, what *buntu and/or DM are you using?16:21
xpistosHello all. Is there a way that I can pause and ftp download and close the connection that will enable me to come back to the ftp site later and resume the download with out corruption?16:21
Aleksanderxpistos, wget16:21
r0thawget has a feature that starts where you left off16:22
Aleksanderand if you don't like the console, you can find basically any download manager out there16:22
r0thaman wget16:22
xpistosAleksander: I will have to check if godaddy allows that16:22
sasoriAleksander: i just switched to kubuntu 12.10... i couldnt do ubuntu unity anymore... i tried... but i cant.16:22
xpistossasori: I went to gnome3 and it was good16:22
Aleksandersasori, I know that feeling, I just switched to Unity Ubuntu from GNOME Arch16:23
Aleksandersasori, what's your normal resolution?16:23
TomyLobo<ActionParsnip> TomyLobo: as far as I know, if your setup doesn't support [hibernate] then it will be disabled16:23
Aleksandersasori, try "xrandr -s 1280x1024" or whatever your max res is16:24
sasoriAleksander: yah.... the closest i got was accepting mint with cinnamon, which was nice, but eventually, had to change b/c of hang issues16:24
TomyLoboi'm on a brand new laptop. the hardware shouldnt be a problem16:24
sasoriAleksander: yah but that wont allow me to chenge the actual nvidia controls, which is the problem16:24
dr_willisactually 'brand new' as in just released to the market - can be a bigger problem with drivers...16:25
sasoriAleksander: basically i need that so i can turn laptop montior offi, shut lid, and use external monitor16:25
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Aleksandersasori, so the problem is that nvidia-xconfig tells you you're not using nvidia kernel module?16:25
Aleksandersasori, run 'lsmod | grep nvidia'16:25
Aleksandersasori, brb16:25
rororHi. having some trouble with apt-get. the result of apt-get upgrade is here: http://pastebin.com/tAgJcRSR . Can you please help?16:26
sasoriAleksander: as soon as i open server settings it says i need to run a command as sudo, forget what it is and cant get it, cause it crashed and need to log out.  lol.  anyways, the command you gave me to run outputs this : nvidia              11257759  016:27
Aleksandersasori, sudo runs command as a root16:29
bigbadbenI am  trying to install bitcoin qt and this error came up after I installed the PPA and changed the source to mavrrick16:29
Aleksanderas an administrator16:29
bigbadbenhttps://gist.github.com/400245116:29
Aleksandersasori, this means that you have nvidia up and running16:30
Aleksandersasori, please paste 'sudo nvidia-settings' and tell me what happens16:30
Aleksanderit needs your user passwrod16:30
r33P33rheya16:30
sasoriAleksander: You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.16:31
Aleksandersasori, hmmm.16:31
sasoriAleksander: and have run it a few times now16:31
Aleksandersasori, wait a moment please16:32
daschelI have switchable graphics cards (intel/amd) and have tried installing drivers for them.  when I try to install via additional drivers, i can no longer use any DE besides gnome 2.  everything automatically falls back to it.  installing from the amd website completely breaks the X server.  does anyone have a solution for using gnome 3 with the appropriate graphics driver?  alternatively, I dont particularly do anything in linux that necessitat16:32
dascheles the amd card, so the intel chip would be sufficient, but the fan seems to run needlessly and I figured that was a driver issue.  would it be better just to use a temp monitor/fan speed control setup?16:32
sasoriAleksander: cool, i have to restart again... graphics crashed and went into the old school mode again.... hahahaa16:32
JMS32When i'm trying to install ubuntu from USB it's write what can't mount CD. How to fix it? MD5 is ok. It's server version16:33
Aleksandersasori, http://askubuntu.com/questions/61792/you-do-not-appear-to-be-using-the-nvidia-x-serverscreenshot-included ?16:34
GroggsterI need some help getting Firefox plying nice with fglrx. I use Ubuntu 12.04 and the latest versions of all software (this issue is all the same on older revisions of the software though). The problem is that if I use the fglrx driver (which I need to), specific websites crashes Firefox. For instance www.inet.se crashes Firefox every time if the fglrx driver is activated. Any ideas?16:35
Aleksandersasori, gtg, but good luck with that16:35
searchingLubuntu 12.04 freeze16:36
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cain_Hello to all.16:36
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searchingnobody here16:38
javaJakesearching: not a one16:38
dascheldont think so16:38
searchingwhy ubuntu freeze then?16:38
blazemoreWhat's the name of the binary to launch libreoffice calc?16:39
Groggsterlibreoffice --calc16:40
javaJakesearching: there's hundreds of reasons why, but in order to narrow it down, you'll need to be very specific about what you did to get it to freeze. Also, if your question is not getting answered, it may be that the people who could help you are not here.16:40
searchingok16:40
searchingsome time appear blackscreen like it is boot16:41
dascheldoes anyone have any experience with switchable graphics cards on a laptop running gnome 3?16:41
searchingProblem : Ubuntu 12.04 freezes , not able to click any button on keyboard or mouse , unable to go to console or reboot. the screen looks 3/4th black and 1/4th grey color. power off is the only option.16:41
mns`searching, one should "thanks" that to unity desktop16:42
searchingcopy/paste from bugs16:42
mns`searching, mostly16:42
searchingI use Lubuntu16:42
saviohow can i disable windows entry from grup2 boot menu16:42
javaJakesearching: can you navigate to the /var/log folder, open your syslog, Xorg.0.log, and Xorg.1.log files, and paste the contents at this website: dpaste.com16:43
mns`searching, put xubuntu on you desktop and you'll have a stable and clean system16:43
blazemorejavaJake: we use http://paste.ubuntu.com16:43
searchingxubuntu have gimp16:43
mns`searching, sure16:43
blazemoresearching: Can you please open a terminal and run "cat /var/log/syslog /var/log/Xorg* >> /tmp/ubuntulogs"16:43
searchinglubuntu more light16:44
mns`searching, xubutnu has everything16:44
blazemoresearching: Then run "gedit /tmp/ubuntulogs"16:44
blazemoresearching: And paste the contents into http://paste.ubuntu.com16:44
searchingok blazemore16:44
mns`searching, i should do what javaJake and blazemore is saying16:44
mad-leighKubuntu 12.10  on Asus-P5N73-AM. Works great16:44
mns`searching, you should do what javaJake and blazemore is saying16:45
mns`sorry16:45
javaJakeblazemore: that's more intuitive, thank you :)16:45
durijust loaded 12.10 on a Dell 820 laptop where 12.04 was working just fine. now UI is really slow. is the slowness all determined by Unity and Dash. Will it get faster if I switch to a different windows manager such as Xmonad or Unity 2d ?16:47
saviowill editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg will do thing?16:47
mns`duri, i would back to 12.04 lts for stability16:48
saviobut how could i comment multi line16:48
icerootsavio: depending on the editor you are using16:51
savioiceroot, i'm using nano . but how this is depend on editor16:52
icerootsavio: i thought your question is "how to comment multiple lines with one command"16:52
JimmyJohnnyhas anybody ever tried booting into unbuntu off a usb stick and had 'useable' performance? I did it but was too slow to endure16:52
savioiceroot, no i just want to disable windows entry from grub menu16:53
Nickeehi want to develop a game on Ubuntu, but I can't figure out where glBindFramebuffer() is, for example. Where can I find it?16:54
salvatorekciao16:55
JuggieHi All... I am running 10.04.4LTS... if I do a dist-upgrade w/ LTS is that going to upgrade me to 12.04.1LTS or 12.10?16:56
searchinga lot of users have this problem16:56
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dd_juggie, I think it will bring you to 12.0416:57
icerootJuggie: dist-upgrade will NOT upgrade your ubuntu version16:57
searchingblazemore u are live?16:58
icerootJuggie: but the normal upgrade process when you want to upgrade the ubuntu version will bring you to 12.0416:58
savioiceroot, i add GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true to /etc/default/grub16:58
Gnea!ppa16:59
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge16:59
dd_iceroot, juggie, but remember backing up your files, the jump from 10.04 to 12.04 is big so the risk of breakage is higher16:59
Juggieiceroot, oh I was under the impression it would my mistake.16:59
iceroot!upgrade | Juggie17:00
ubottuJuggie: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade17:00
Juggieah right,  I see now.. 'do-release-upgrade' it mentions it when I og into shell.17:00
JuggieK, thanks I will read.17:00
gfredericksdoes anybody know the name of that program that lets you do text input with the mouse?17:03
gfredericksit's a cool animated sort of thing17:03
gfredericksnot like clicking keys17:03
gfredericksit's sooper-cool and I can never remember its name17:04
* gfredericks wants to apt-get install the heck out of it17:04
gfredericksah dasher17:06
* mr-david ponder updating 12.04 to 12.1017:06
dr_willisthats one of santa's raindeers gfredericks .... ;P17:06
gfredericksdr_willis: I will try really hard to remember at least that fact, and then my task will be much easier next time I forget the name17:06
awaadI need when my mouse moves over a word in a PDF or a web page to send this word to an a python application which I developed.17:06
awaadAny one can help ?17:07
dr_williswithout even clicking?17:07
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DeluxoHello everybody! Does any one know how to user gtk.textbuffer.serializate function??? I've been searching the web for this about a day now, still have no clue17:08
i7cawaad: that can only be handled by your browser/pdf reader imho.17:08
Deluxogtk.textbuffer serialization*17:08
dr_willisawaad:  seen auto copy to clipbord extensions for browsers. your app could monitor the clipbord i guess.. but that seems like it could grab info/words from anything.17:08
Deluxoor at least someone maybe knows how to specify mime-type in gtk.textbuffer.serialize ?17:09
Deluxoi know it has to call Gdk.Atom. But other than that i cannot figure out17:10
n00b982 wow there are 1700 people here17:11
dr_willisn00b982:  its a slow day17:11
awaadi7c, dr_willis: There is some application which implements this methodology called "KTranslator". Introduction on its site says the following:17:11
n00b982this is a ton of people17:11
n00b982more than the #freenode channel17:11
dr_willisn00b982:  seen 3000+ here on release day17:12
n00b982wow dr_willis17:12
awaadi7c, dr_willis: There is another application called "KTranslator". Introduction on its site says the following:17:12
awaadi7c, dr_willis: The main idea behind KTranslator is to translate a word without disturb the application in use. So, when the user selects a word while pressing CTRL key, KTranslator will try to translate the word and show the result in a popup window. It behaves like Babylon for Windows.17:12
cordycepsanybody else notice that youtube colours are backwards? red is blue and vice versa, skies are orange and skin is gray?17:14
gordonjcpcordyceps: yeah, known bug17:15
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cordycepsis there a fix?17:15
gordonjcpcordyceps: Nvidia graphics card?17:15
cordycepsyes17:15
Gallomimiahow do i disable apache2 from starting on boot?17:15
dr_williscordyceps:  disable hardware acceleration in the flash player settings.17:15
blazemoreGallomimia: update-rc.d apache2 disable17:16
blazemoreThis is reversible by update-rc.d apache2 enable17:16
Gallomimiata17:16
MestreLionlmat: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~software-store-developers/software-center/5.2/view/3074/softwarecenter/db/update.py#L94517:17
Kartagis!xen17:17
ubottuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen17:17
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svm_invictvsHey, how does one install Jetty 8 on Ubuntu?17:22
svm_invictvsWhen I use the package tool, it will install jetty 6, but not Jetty 8.17:22
gordonjcpsvm_invictvs: grab the source and look at how the jetty 6 package works?17:23
svm_invictvsgordonjcp: So it's not packaged for distribution, is it?17:23
dr_willisfor newer versions  look for a PPA, or in backports17:24
svm_invictvshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jetty817:24
svm_invictvsI see that...17:24
savidI'm following this guide for customizing an ubuntu package: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb .  How do I change the --configure args within this process?17:24
svm_invictvsdr_willis: What is ppa?17:25
awaadi7c, dr_willis: Do you have any idea, where to start ?17:26
dr_willis!ppa17:26
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge17:26
i7cawaad: read the source code of this other appliciation you talked about?17:26
awaadi7c: It is written in C++ which I don't have good knowledge about.17:27
munimHey.. I am having a bit of an issue with virtual box. I had an ubuntu guest with NAT and Host only networking set up on my ubuntu host.. I updated to ubuntu 12.10 today, and installed virtualbox again and set up the guest with the same VDI. the guest ubuntu doesnt seem to have any network adapters set up now17:27
bekksmunim: You could join #vbox as well.17:28
munimbekks, thanks17:28
i7cawaad: well i think it will be difficult to do such a thing without knowing C++ tbh ...17:28
husberdplease help,on lubuntu Desktop shows all contents of 'home' folder, how can i disable this?17:29
savidAh, nm.  looks like I need to edit debian/rules17:29
dr_willishusberd:  the pcmanfm docs at wiki.lxde.org mention the Desktop Path and your exact issue.17:32
dr_williswiki.lxde.org/en/pcmanfm/#desktop_path17:33
zoktarhas there been any issues with pulseaudio causing video players to segfault recently?.17:33
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dr_willishttp://wiki.lxde.org/en/PCManFM  Desktop Path section. ;)17:34
husberddr_willis:  what can i do friend, please help me17:34
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dr_willishusberd:  err.. read that url? they give the exact fix....17:35
dr_willisIf your desktop displays the files of your /home/ and not the files on your real Desktop path, you probably do not have an established path "Desktop". To fix this please do the following:.....17:35
dr_willismy user-dirs.dirs file is here --->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326964/17:37
husberddr_willis:  thanx i try17:37
simplewsomething very wrong is happening here, i jsut restarted Network Manager and now only lists my wifi network, can anyone help?17:38
leosacc_sera ragazzi17:38
svm_invictvsdr_willis: It looks like the jetty8 stuff is in there.17:38
svm_invictvsoh well17:38
tomy222Hello, I have installed windows7 and ubuntu12.10 on my PC, but grub will not be loaded at startup. I have tried to reinstall grub with a live key to /sda . The installation reported no problem but after the installation I could not found grub on /sda. What could be the problem?17:41
omsairamwhat the hell is this17:41
omsairamanybody here17:42
omsairamwho can tell me what is it exactly17:42
mad-leighthere are people here, just post and wait17:42
omsairamwhat is happening17:43
omsairam?17:43
omsairamhere please tell me somebody17:43
Erik_D...if you don't know, why are you here?17:43
omsairamhey Erik can u help me17:43
Peloomsairam, this is a support channel for the ubuntu linux distribution17:43
svm_invictvsI guess my big question is, why is this package listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/java/jetty817:44
svm_invictvsbut I can't use apt-get install libjetty8-java17:44
Erik_Dhow exactly does one "accidentally" end up in an IRC room?17:44
Okoderhey guys, having a network problem17:45
Okoderit was working fine, not sure what changed. i can ping my local ip, but not my Gateway17:45
systems7hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?17:46
systems7hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?17:47
GraceBT#seamonkey17:48
gordonjcpsystems7: have a look at how upsd works17:50
gordonjcpsystems7: most "dumb" UPSes use a relay contact between one of the flow control pins and ground17:50
tomy222Grub will not laoded at startup http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327006/17:50
gordonjcpsystems7: obviously this means you can abuse it to do something when a button is pushed17:50
wilee-nileetomy222, You are missing part of grub see this link for using the bootrepair tool on purging and reloading grub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Purging_.26_Reinstalling_GRUB_217:54
GerowenQuestion, when I do apt-get update I get an error from one of the repositories, I'm guessing it's where I initially attempted to install skype from the software center before downloading it from their site.  What effect would disabling this repository have?17:55
GerowenW: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/commercial-ppa-uploaders/skype/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.191 80]17:55
wilee-nileetomy222, You need the grub bootloader in sda that is the HD mbr, it has windows there now, I assume the bootrepair loads it.  You can chroot to the ubuntu install and do all of this from a command line as well.17:58
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tomy222wilee-nilee: yes I have already done but without sucess17:59
wilee-nileetomy222, Done what?17:59
lloowenHello all. Does anyone know where I can find the repository URL's for 11.04 so that I can copy and paste them into /etc/apt/sources.list?18:00
wolsGerowen: no effect18:00
wolstomy222: you need to (re)install grub18:01
tomy222wilee-nilee: I have tried to reinstall grub from ChRoot enviroment18:02
wilee-nileetomy222, using a 12.10 cd?18:02
overcluckerlloowen: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/18:02
tomy222wilee-nilee: yes18:02
tomy222wilee-nilee: yes from usb kez18:03
tomy222wilee-nilee: yes live key18:03
lloowenoverclucker: Thanks but that does no longer have 11.0418:03
wilee-nileetomy222, did you run apt-get purge grub-pc grub common apt-get install grub-pc grub-common18:03
wilee-nileetomy222, basically as one line it can be run as apt-get purge grub-pc grub common && apt-get install grub-pc grub-common18:05
wilee-nileetomy222, THen when asked where to put grub it would be sda18:05
jurilHi there.. I'm setting up serial console access for ubuntu 12.10.. I refer to the documentation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto), but /etc/event.d/ttyS0 doesn't seem anymore the right place for the upstart script. I think the right place now is /etc/init.d/, do I need to change anything regarding the script itself? Thanks!18:06
_cronus_lloowen, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com18:06
trismjuril: /etc/init/ for upstart scripts now18:06
hmHi! I did a fresh ubuntu install on my comp but for some weird reason, my grub is over-written as soon as I restart my comp. Any clue what might be the problem?18:07
arlohello are there are nice people some can help me to open port 80 on my router18:07
arlowe can use teamwiewer to remote..18:07
trismjuril: see the karmic and newer section of that wiki page18:07
hmI'm on windows right now btw. can go to ubuntu via live-usd if needed18:07
rephy222anyone know how i uninstall a script18:07
juriltrism, /etc/init is full of .conf files.. I put my ttyS0.conf there.. just this?18:07
trismjuril: yes18:07
juriltrism, cool! thanks :)18:08
rephy222i got a dnsproxy. script so i could enable wildcards in my hosts file18:08
cool_boyHI guys!18:08
Dandaohi18:09
rephy222and it didnt work out so well anyone know how i could remove it18:09
cool_boyI want to intall ubuntu 12.04 from removable disk18:09
cool_boyfor that which setup I need .iso or what?18:09
frenk_lista18:09
dr_willisrephy222:  how did you install it?18:09
gordonjcprephy222: how did you insta18:09
gordonjcpheh18:09
rephy222it was a python script18:09
dr_williscool_boy:  you can put the iso in a 'live' setup on excternal media you then boot/install from18:09
dr_willisrephy222:  thats telling us very little.18:10
rephy222cool_boy: yeah u need an iso and i would use unetbootin to install it on a thumb drive18:10
dr_williscool_boy:  12.10 only has the desktop or server iso's :) if you want a desktop install iuse the desktop...18:10
dr_willispendrivelinux has alternatives to unetbootin as well to make a bootable external install usb.18:10
overcluckerlloowen: it looks like natty is still in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ so, as long as you use the official repos, you can replace the dist with natty and it should work18:11
wilee-nileehm, Boot the ubuntu live cd get this app and just run the bootinfo summary and post the url to it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair18:11
arlohello are there are nice people some can help me to open port 80 on my router, we can use teamwiewer to remote.18:11
lloowenoverclucker: That's exactly what I've just done :) Thanks18:11
rephy222i added 127.0.0.1 *.local, 2404:6800:8005::62 *.blogspot.com to my hosts file18:11
rephy222then i ran the script18:12
dr_willisarlo:  check the docs for your router for port forwareding.. or that portforwarding.com web site18:12
rephy222python dnsproxy.py -s 8.8.8.818:12
blakesDoes anyone know if there is a CUPS alternative for 12.04.  Cups (1.5) crashes whenever a printer is added, whenever a Mac prints a postscript job and if three people submit a job at the same time.18:12
linkandzeldahi guys, im having real trouble still installing on a mac mini 2011. I cant boot the installer either via cd or usb, and i cant even boot into Plop bootloader. what else can i do? rEFIt is installed and ive followed the wiki guide. thanks in advance18:12
arlodr_willis i have tryed, but i think i missing little think.18:13
dr_willisrephy222:  if all it edited was your hosts file. then check that file and undoo its changes.. or check the scripts docs and see if it has a undo feature18:13
rephy222i got the link to the site18:13
rephy222already tried that18:13
rephy222the script did some other changes18:13
bantuHey. After upgrading to 12.10 I see panels on the lock screen. This is suboptimal. How do I fix that?18:13
onewithhammerhaving an issue with chmod, i have three users on my system. two are in the same group. the two that are in the same group i want to share a file with the other user, so in termal i typed in chmod 750 for the file and folder and when i am on the other account i can not access that file18:14
tomy222wilee-nilee: ok I have tried again. Now I have the problem to fetch the server18:14
overcluckerlloowen: you should probably upgrade, natty is at end of life as of last week.18:15
rephy222http://serverfault.com/questions/118378/in-my-etc-hosts-file-on-linux-osx-how-do-i-do-a-wildcard-subdomain18:16
rephy222i cant browse the web for some reason18:16
rephy222thats the site where i got the script18:16
rororhi all. I am getting the following error when I run apt-get upgrade : http://pastebin.com/tAgJcRSR . any help?18:16
wilee-nileetomy222, you have any errors you can pastebin, not sure why you would not get the server if your computer has access to the net.18:17
arlohello are there a nice people some can help me to open port 80 on my router, we can use teamwiewer to remote.18:18
rororany help? http://pastebin.com/tAgJcRSR18:18
n00b982geez Ubuntu has a huge community18:19
onewithhammerhaving an issue with chmod, i have three users on my system. two are in the same group. the two that are in the same group i want to share a file with the other user, so in termal i typed in chmod 750 for the file and folder and when i am on the other account i can not access that file18:20
n00b982wouldn't 777 work?18:20
onewithhammer777  is owner group world18:21
tomy222wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327102/18:21
onewithhammeri do not want other non group users able to open file and folder18:21
rephy222so change the permissions18:21
onewithhammerthats what i am trying to do18:21
rephy222try 75518:22
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onewithhammeri do not want the other user that is in a different group able to open the file or folder thats why i set it to 018:22
rephy222first number is root second is non root and third is any other18:23
rephy222do     chmod 755 filename18:23
wilee-nileetomy222, Is the computer on the net?18:23
onewithhammerso instead of chmod do chown?18:23
tomy222wilee-nilee: yes18:23
wilee-nileetomy222, Can you hard plug it ti the router?18:24
wilee-nileeto*18:24
manojhi18:24
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blakesonewithhammer: make sure that the folder is owned by the shared group18:24
onewithhammerHello18:24
blakesyour mode is ok18:24
manojhi18:24
onewithhammerthe folder is in the user1 home folder18:25
blakesonewithhammer: the home folder above is not accessible by the group so the inherited rights won't work18:25
rephy222any ideas dr_willis:18:26
tomy222wilee-nilee: Yes I could do, but then I lose the connection to the chat18:26
blakesonewithhammer, the home folder above your shared folder must be 777... that would be bad18:26
onewithhammerthis is what i typed in termal" chomd 750 /home/user1/work_file18:26
onewithhammerthis is what i typed in termal" chomd 750 /home/user1/work_file/work-sheet18:27
rephy222dont think 0 is valid18:27
ekajhttp://i.stack.imgur.com/72SyK.png - any ideas?18:27
rephy222what do u want the permissions to be onewithhammer18:27
frenk_salve18:27
onewithhammeruser3 read and execute18:27
onewithhammerand the world nothing18:28
wilee-nileetomy222, Is the usb you are on hitting the net?18:28
rephy222so its 75518:28
rsumii'm running ubuntu 12.04 and i want 12.10. is there a way to do a clean install without a cd rom or usb stick? i have the iso downloaded on the computer18:28
onewithhammerbut other users will be able to access the file if i do 755?18:29
wilee-nileersumi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154984718:29
tomy222wilee-nilee: No18:31
wilee-nileetomy222, Hard plug the computer then try the grub install, I assume you have purged it.18:31
wilee-nileetomy222, You can restart a chat I have to go anyway to vote, I'm in the US.18:32
tomy222wilee-nilee: Ok I can try but I m definitly connected to the internet18:33
tomy222wilee-nilee: I can ping google18:33
kev^i can ping google too18:33
tomy222kev^: wow18:34
wilee-nileetomy222, Cool, I am not real experienced here other then to know the commands, it looks like maybe the repo it is calling is incorrect, I don't really know how to fix that from a chroot.18:34
tomy222wilee-nilee: ok thanks18:36
horsefeathersI am trying to get gdm to work again. Gives me the error to the effect of "failed to aquire Org.gnome.DisplayManager" I have reinstalled gdm and unity and gnome and the gdmm problem perists.18:36
livingdaylighthallo, I am using Mate18:36
livingdaylightI seek google calendar integration and used calendar indicator ppa http://www.atareao.es/ubuntu/software-para-tu-ubuntu/calendar-indicator-o-como-tener-la-fecha-en-el-panel/18:37
livingdaylightbut don't know if it is for unity only or can be used in Mate18:37
rephy222onewithhammer: try this      chmmod user=rwx filename18:37
k1l_livingdaylight: for mate support better try the mint support18:38
k1l_!mint | livingdaylight18:38
svm_invictvsSO Jetty 8 on Ubnuntu Server18:38
ubottulivingdaylight: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org18:38
svm_invictvsWhat am I missing here?18:38
svm_invictvssudo apt-get install jetty8 ought to do it correct?18:38
dfgas-cr48when i apt-get purge mysql-server it does not remove all the databases and such, how do i do this?18:39
k1l_ubottu: !find jetty818:39
gordonjcpsvm_invictvs: maybe just jetty?18:39
dfgas-cr48i want to clean everything out18:39
svm_invictvsgordonjcp: That's Jetty 618:39
gordonjcpsvm_invictvs: maybe jetty 8 isn't packaged18:39
gordonjcpsvm_invictvs: what is it, anyway?18:39
k1l_svm_invictvs: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=jetty&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all18:39
svm_invictvshttp://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/java/jetty818:39
svm_invictvsgordonjcp: That link I pasted would lead me to believe it is18:40
k1l_svm_invictvs: which server do you got?18:40
svm_invictvsk1l_: sec18:40
gordonjcpsvm_invictvs: <shrug> I didn't see it18:40
k1l_if its not 12.10 it doesnt have the jetty 8.xxx18:40
svm_invictvsk1l_: Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS18:40
svm_invictvsAh..18:41
k1l_svm_invictvs: then there is only jetty 6 like you can see in my link above18:41
livingdaylightk1l_: mint is using ubuntu18:41
livingdaylightk1l_: mint channel dead18:41
k1l_so either you consider an upgrade to 12.10 (which is not lts, and i wouldnt recommend) or you find a ppa for that18:42
gordonjcplivingdaylight: mint (and mate) aren't supported here, but give the instructions on that link a go and see what happens18:43
ekajWOO it worked18:43
Hammerhead2010HI all18:43
Hammerhead2010What is happening with init...18:43
Jinxed-how do you set an interface back to dhcp from command line18:44
Hammerhead2010nothing is working in 12.04 like it did in 1118:44
Hammerhead2010set it??? you mean so if you reboot it gets dhcp?18:44
k1l_livingdaylight: the mint channel is on antother irc network. see the message. and mint and mate are not supported here. ask the mint guys they should know whats up18:44
Guest35155am i connected?18:44
Hammerhead2010I installed sysv-rc and aptitude says it's there....but there is no executable18:45
Guest35155whats the best program to shut down my kids computer from mine?18:45
Hammerhead2010So frustrating18:45
rsumiwilee-nilee: i followed the instructions to boot from an iso but grub is not prompting me to select where to boot when the computer starts. it just has the computer splash screen18:45
rsumisuggestions?18:45
svm_invictvsk1l_: Why not just upgrade?18:45
Hammerhead2010And why is /etc/network/interfaces not being looked at anymore....18:46
k1l_svm_invictvs: most server admins prefer the stable and long term support releaases18:46
Hammerhead2010almost makes me wnat to go back to Gentoo....18:46
rsumibecause my system is all messed up from performing upgrades. gnome and xfce are unstable18:46
k1l_Hammerhead2010: it is. but if there is nothing edited in it the NetworkManager does the work18:46
lissyxHello18:47
ignacio__hello, install doom3 but only opens with 32bit colors and I have 16 bit, is there a command to run with 32bit colors without having to configure the xorg.conf?18:47
lissyxdid someone noticed Xorg cpu spikes when using gnome-terminal .18:47
lissyx?18:47
svm_invictvs!ppa18:47
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge18:47
k1l_Hammerhead2010: for most user its way easier to let the interfaces alone and configure the network through the NM. but you can use the interfaces if you want. just go ahead18:47
Hammerhead2010<k1l_>Thats the part that's killing me...there is I have 2 interface manually configured...yet the routes(static) i have in it do not get looked at... This was not a problem in 1118:48
ignacio__hello, install doom3 but only opens with 32bit colors and I have 16 bit, is there a command to run with 32bit colors without having to configure the xorg.conf? please help18:48
__SUCKER__hi18:48
svm_invictvsk1l_: Honestly, fuck it, i'll just manually install Jetty 818:48
unrarOne quick question; my 2GHz CPU was shown as 800MHz with lscpu, then with Granola I "overclocked" it to 2000MHz (which is what it should be), is it normal?18:48
__SUCKER__no, it's not. you're a phrik18:49
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ignacio__hello, install doom3 but only opens with 32bit colors and I have 16 bit, is there a command to run with 32bit colors without having to configure the xorg.conf? please help18:49
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__SUCKER__who the fuck cares about guidelines?18:50
k1l_can some op please kick the obviuos troll?18:50
bekksunrar: You were mislead by the default power management...18:50
unrarYay ;D18:50
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Hammerhead2010All I want is the /etc/network/interfaces to be looked at the GUI NM is crap. I tried to disable the network manager with sysv-rc or bum...but sysv-rc apt-get install does not produce a binary....18:50
unrarIn other distros such as... Mint, I think, it didn't happen18:50
bekksunrar: Then Mint has no reasonable power management.18:50
unraranother thing, if I have installed a NVIDIA driver, why does the CPU activity increases from 8% to 50% when I put the mouse over the launcher?18:51
lissyxHammerhead2010, just declare your interface normally in interfaces(5) and nm won't touch it18:51
Guest38790which version of java should i use for  my brwoser and application..?? jdk7 or jre7 ?18:51
bekksGuest38790: As long as you dont want to develop Java applications, you'll be fine with the JRE.18:52
MrBushidoare there any good tools for ext filesystem integration with windows explorer? I know its kind of off topic, but i figured people in here are more likely to know than #windows18:52
Guest38790bekks : i dont want to develop application18:52
k1l_Hammerhead2010: im not too much into the network stuff to know what you fiddled there already. but from a clean install: if you configure an interface the NM doesnt touch it.18:52
MrBushidoare there any good tools for ext filesystem integration with windows explorer? I know its kind of off topic, but i figured people in here are more likely to know than #windows18:53
MrBushidough, sorry, missclick18:53
bekksMrBushido: No.18:53
BenxyzzyAnyone know of a quick way I can find out if my shell is sitting inside a screen session? Sometimes I forget :/18:53
bekksBenxyzzy: press ctrl-a-d18:53
Benxyzzybekks: You're saying, if I'm not in a screen it'll do nothing?18:53
bekksBenxyzzy: Correct.18:54
BenxyzzySorry for the obvious question18:54
Guest38790which version java should i install openjdk-jre or openjdk-jdk?18:55
sava!list18:55
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Leoneofis there a way to download all packages for offline purpose?18:56
Leoneoflike DVDs18:56
bekksLeoneof: All packages would need about 80GB.18:58
Leoneofbekks: i guess it's almost ~40 Gb18:59
rephy222say i run a script that makes some changes is there some sort of log to read to find out whats been done18:59
bekksLeoneof: Still far too much to put on a DVD.18:59
Guest38790which is the fastest cd/dvd burner?18:59
Leoneofbekks: separating them? :/19:00
wilee-nileersumi, I have never booted with a ISO from grub so I can't really help there, but if you make a thread on the UF right now with booting ISO from grub problem I suspect you will get a quick answer.19:00
rephy222because i ran a script from this site http://code.google.com/p/marlon-tools/source/browse/tools/dnsproxy/dnsproxy.py19:00
rephy222and its slowing down my connection19:00
brandon420can someone help me install nightingale?19:00
chipotlewill any touchscreen laptops work with ubuntu? thanks!19:01
tomy222wilee-nilee: /etc/resolv.conf was not setup in ChRoot env19:01
nb-benhi is there a way for me to use 2 different workspaces on 2 monitors?19:01
brandon420chipotle, yeah, they will.19:01
nb-benso that each monitor uses a different workspace19:01
brandon420nb-ben, that would be cool, but i dont think that you can.19:02
wilee-nileetomy222, I had wondered if the chroot was good.19:02
chipotlebrandon420 what drivers do you need to get the touchscreen capability?19:02
chipotlei can't find anything online...19:02
nb-benyeah I don't think so aswell so I figured I'd ask19:02
brandon420i have been using dual monitors for awhile and never seen a option like that.19:02
nb-benmaybe someone found a way :D19:02
nb-benI think you could run 2 different X clients on them19:02
rephy222i was trying to edit my hosts file so i could use wildcards and i think it turned on a proxy and i wanna turn it off19:03
nb-benI mean X servers19:03
nb-benone for each monitor19:03
nb-benbut that would be completely different X environment19:03
systems7hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?19:03
nb-bensystems7, try ##hardware19:03
brandon420chipotle, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/quantal/xinput-calibrator/19:03
linkandzeldadamn, can really nobody help me?19:05
brandon420what was your question?19:05
vvpalinyour all alone, everyone else has been taken over by the zombie apocalypse19:05
brandon420i always knew link would be the last one standing.19:06
linkandzeldaregarding mac mini 2011, doesnt even get to the grub bootloader when booting from CD or USB19:06
vvpalinsorry linkandzelda its just you, me and some crafty bots19:06
brandon420Yeah, I know nothing about macs, sorry man19:06
jtrucksvvpalin: good thing I prepared for the ZA!19:07
abdostarhello, I am about to install ubuntu, and I have a question about swap partition, do I really need, and does it really improve performance19:07
brandon420Did you make sure that you were booting to the right device? linkandzelda19:07
brandon420abdostar, how much ram do you have? ssd or standard hdd?19:08
dfgas-cr48how do i reconfigure a package like when it first installs?19:08
linkandzeldabrandon420, natrually, it wont even boot the Plop bootloader cd either19:08
linkandzeldajust gives me a black screen19:08
abdostar4Gb and HDD19:08
linkandzeldaim totally gutted ;/19:08
rephy222is there anyway to do like a restore on ubuntu to undo any changes within a timeperiod19:08
abdostarbrandon420: 4gb and HDD19:08
brandon420abdostar, I don't see why you would need a swap space. But since you have a hdd, there would be no adverse effects of having it except the losing the space.19:09
brandon420linkandzelda, I would check the the bois settings. I have never touched a mac, so i dont know how much different they would be. Sounds like it is looking in the wrong place to me.19:10
abdostarbrandon420: thank you, that's help. I was using linux mint, and worried about the GUI, will that be a challenge for me untill I get used to it19:11
wilee-nileerephy222, Ubuntu does not have a restore function like windows. You might try explaining the problem in the form of a question.19:11
linkandzeldabrandon420, it is looking in the wrong place, but its actually skipping the drives and trying to boot a windows partition whuch isnt there. the probem is, macs have no bios19:11
wilee-nileenot to me but the channel19:12
systems7hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?19:12
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wilee-nileedfgas-cr48, You need to tell the channel what the package is.19:12
brandon420abdostar, it should be alright. If you are new to linux i would start with ubuntu (the most documented distro) But mint is pretty user friendly from the get-go19:13
brandon420linkandzelda, let me google really fast.19:13
rephy222i installed a dnsproxy python script to allow wildcards in my hosts file and now i cant browse certain websites19:13
dfgas-cr48wilee-nilee, mysql-server19:13
rephy222and i wanna undo whatever the script did19:13
abdostarbrandon420: thank you, sine all is clear now, I wil start formating and installing, see you guys later19:14
rephy222http://code.google.com/p/marlon-tools/source/browse/tools/dnsproxy/dnsproxy.py    this is the script19:14
brandon420abdostar, you are welcome, good luck!19:14
linkandzeldabrandon420, ive been googling for almost 1-2 days now. but get this. as soon as i mention mac people have no idea, and i cant find a solution19:14
linkandzeldaso, let me ask this19:15
linkandzeldawhat if it wasnt a mac?19:15
brandon420you would just change the boot order in the bois.19:16
brandon420it is much easier.19:16
brandon420have you tried holding down the "C" key while restarting it?19:16
wilee-nileedfgas-cr48, I would ask in #ubuntu-server if you get no answer here.19:17
linkandzeldabrandon420, iĺl try holding that C key i havent19:17
brandon420i see a few documents that say todo that19:17
brandon420http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Snow_Leopard_Installation_Instructions.pdf19:17
rdksudo ln -s /path/to/phantomjs /usr/bin is not working for me. What wrong i am doing here?19:18
linkandzeldabrandon420, black screen. cd starts spinning then stops, nothing19:19
brontosaurusrexlinkandzelda: also if you are in osx, there is an option in prefs, for what will be next boot device19:19
linkandzeldabrontosaurusrex, thanks, but using the alt key lets you select the device you want at boot, and thats what i been doing19:19
brontosaurusrexthat should work19:19
coz_hey guys, I need to disable wallpaper fade in 12.04, the gtkrc thing  doesnt seem to work here.. any other suggestions?19:20
brandon420linkandzelda, are you sure that you made the disc correctly?19:20
rdksudo ln -s /path/to/phantomjs  /usr/bin is not working for me in ubuntu. What wrong i am doing here? please help.19:21
linkandzeldabrandon420, i used the same disc and same USB to install it on my macbook air19:22
linkandzeldayou can see why this is making me rage, there is no reason why its not working19:22
rephy222rdk: what are u trying to do19:22
brandon420linkandzelda, i feel your pain. I really have no idea what to do...19:23
brandon420linkandzelda, I will get back to you in a couple of minutes. What model is it?19:23
linkandzeldamac mini 2011. thanks19:23
linkandzeldaHEY19:24
linkandzeldaWHAT19:24
linkandzeldaIT BOOTED19:24
FloodBot1linkandzelda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:24
brandon420FloodBot1, fu19:24
brandon420woooooottt19:24
brandon420what did you do?!19:24
linkandzeldai unplugged one of my usb hdd19:24
brandon420lmfao19:24
brandon420that could have been the issue.19:24
SailorMoonthis is fake right? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation19:24
rdkrephy222:  I want to run a phantomjs scripts on my linux box, I have downloaded it and just want to run scripts.19:25
brandon420(always unplug all extra hardware when installing a new os)19:25
brandon420SailorMoon, i dont think so.19:25
SailorMoonbrandon420: it was last edited today, and, Ubuntu on an Android device? Psh.19:26
rdkrephy222:  i can runt it now but for that I have to give a absolute path of phantomjs while running script from anywhere on machine.19:26
brandon420SailorMoon, there are alot of people that install ubuntu to their tablets, and phones.19:27
coz_hey guys, any way to stop wallpaper fade?19:27
SailorMoonbrandon420: but not as a legit OS19:27
SailorMoonbrandon420: They install ontop of Android. this is replacing android19:28
coz_on 12.0419:28
brandon420coz_, Thanks for helping me install cairo-dock awhile back. =)19:28
brandon420SailorMoon, oh, i have no idea then. Try it and let me know?19:29
coz_brandon420,   no problem, that must have been a while way back :)19:29
SOLEILhi I want to know what's the best ubuntu for my netbook19:29
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SailorMoonbrandon420: feel free to smite me, but im not running ubuntu so i cant do it19:29
coz_SOLEIL,  I would assume the 12.04 LTS  ,,yes?19:29
coz_SailorMoon,  you are now smitten19:30
SailorMoonlol19:30
brandon42012.10 isn't bad.19:30
coz_wait that means something else ;)19:30
SailorMoon;)19:30
SailorMooni would love the heck out of ubuntu, if it was real. Need to offer an actual installable rom instead of this weirdness19:30
SOLEILI'm not sure about it, I always have to fix a lot of things to make all work19:30
brandon420and coz_ I think that the fading backgrounds are just a setting in the background settings.19:30
coz_brandon420,  ah I will check,, thanks19:31
brandon420I noticed that there is a time symbol on the ones that change.19:31
coz_brandon420,  well I dont mean the changing wallpapers I mean just the fading  when chaning from one to the other , but let me check19:31
rdkreph19:31
bjrohanCan someone explain to me ffmpeg and/vs avconv. When trying to run ffmpeg, I get a message to use avconv instead. I want to record my desktop with audio.19:32
coz_bjrohan,   last I tried ffmpeg worked fine, I just dont have the command for it at the moment19:32
coz_ffmwepg record desktop19:32
systems7hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?19:33
douglhow do I start an application on my secondary display?19:33
coz_bjrohan,   here is one link   http://infinitelygalactic.blogspot.com/2011/12/recording-your-linux-desktop-with.html19:33
OerHeksdougl, i used to use devilspie for that19:34
OerHeks!info devilspie19:34
ubottudevilspie (source: devilspie): find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.22-2 (quantal), package size 30 kB, installed size 112 kB19:34
bjrohancoz_ when I run the command on that page, I get the standard use avconv message, then an error that the .mkv file that I am trying to create doesn't exist. Well DUH19:35
coz_dougl,  is this a twinview set up or sepearate x screens19:35
douglOerHeks, I used the command line before (i prefer) but I cannot remember...19:35
douglcoz_, twinview19:35
douglxbmc full screen19:35
coz_bjrohan,  mm darn,, I just havent used ffmpeg for this for a while,,, did you google the error?19:35
gglitchHello Ubuntu people. I recently installed kubuntu-desktop, and having logged into it once, whenever I instead log into Unity as usual, my right-click context menu (among a few other submenus, like the save-as menu) looks like kwin. Any idea why that is and how I can revert it to Unity?19:35
brontosaurusrexbjrohan: perhaps visit #ffmpeg and ask ther19:35
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coz_dougl,   you can open applications on any dispaly using compiz  with the settings manager19:36
douglcoz_, no command line for that?19:36
brontosaurusrexbjrohan: the version bundled is outdated and borken (thats what ffmpeg people say at least)19:36
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bjrohanI shall brontosaurusrex I was looking here for the avconc message :-)19:36
coz_dougl,  I am sure there is,, just dont recall at the moment19:36
douglI want xbmc to be on display 2 every boot19:36
bjrohanbrontosaurusrex: I have downloaded a static version19:36
douglcoz_, k thaanks19:37
brontosaurusrexbjrohan: then it sounds like you are using the wrong one19:37
coz_dougl,   as i said that sould be able to be accomplished with compiz and xbmc in the start up apps19:37
coz_but19:37
coz_dougl,  you would have to test it19:37
Guest58315salut a tous19:37
bjrohanbrontosaurusrex: the one that I have from the repo, that does work okay. I will switch to the Static built one and give it a go19:38
Guest58315c'est quoi la commande pour changer de pseudo ?19:38
Guest58315how can i change my nickname19:38
Guest58315?19:38
delinquentmehow to get the list of groups a user is a member of?19:38
brontosaurusrexGuest58315: /nick MSLovah19:38
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TheLaughingManthc19:39
TheLaughingManthx19:39
overcluckerdelinquentme: the groups command?19:39
overcluckerdelinquentme: or grep -e 'username$' /etc/group19:41
SailorMoonStill no one here educated on that ubuntu nexus page?19:45
SailorMoonit has a bugzilla page so it has to be real19:46
SailorMoonbut why no rom19:46
k1l_SailorMoon: what do you mean?19:47
husterdpleaseplease help! after upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 the login screen cannot  appear? please help19:47
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SailorMoonAparently Ubuntu is officially available on the Nexus 7 tablet, k1l_.19:47
k1l_SailorMoon: yes i know. but which page are you talking about?19:47
bjrohanIf someone can help with ffmpeg error I would appreciate it. I keep getting an error unknown import format alsa19:47
SailorMoonAnd im INSANELY interested in getting it but im running windows and the instructions are for ubuntu. i plan to try virtualbox later but still, it should be able to install itself  like anyrom19:47
bjrohanNo one is in #ffmpeg19:47
k1l_SailorMoon: ah, now we come to the point of interest.19:48
SailorMoonk1l_: My main point being, why no rom installer, so that it can install itself?19:49
k1l_SailorMoon: you can ask the arm guys if there is a rom. #ubuntu-arm19:49
Peloafternoon folks, I'M running gnome shell and I need to delete my current gnome-panel and make a new default one , the current one is un-responsive to alt-click and keeps popping up over full screen videos19:49
husterdpleaseplease help! after upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 the login screen cannot  appear? anyone?19:52
Pelohusterd, does it just freeze when the login screen should appear or do you just go straight into the desktop ?19:53
MoopingtonHey, I just finished installing the gnome shell on a minimal ubuntu install, and I can't figure out for the life of me how to get to a terminal… :\19:54
PeloMoopington, either from the application menu or crtl-alt-T19:54
SailorMoonk1l_: Theyre all dead now.19:54
MoopingtonPelo: that was the first thing i tried.. there's no terminal application, and ctrl-alt-t does nothing..19:54
ThinkT510!eol | husterd19:55
ubottuhusterd: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:55
husterdPelo:  no if i reboot it shows the screen that says out of range and still like that19:55
PeloMoopington, alt-f2 gnome-terminal19:55
MoopingtonI'll try that. thanks. :P19:55
Pelohusterd, that's beyond my expertise19:55
Pelohusterd, can you get to a console ? crtl-alt-f1 throught f6 ?19:56
husterdPelo:  now i am working on a live cd and chating with you19:57
Pelohusterd, try installing instead of upgrading that might solve many problems19:57
husterdPelo:  how coz i dont like to loose my folders on home19:58
douglhow do I start xbmc on my secondary display in my nvidia/twinview config in kde on my kubuntu 12.10 installation?19:58
* Moopington sighs. "Command not recognized"19:58
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unheedingis there a channel for GNOME3 Ubuntu users?20:00
unheedingI don't want to hang out with people using unity20:00
Pelohusterd, sorry , I was assuming that your /home was on a seperate partition , they you would not loose it , if this is above your skill level use the live cd to copy your /home to some other media ( usb key for exemple), then reisntall, you can then copy the /home data back to your hard drive20:01
husterdPelo:  so there is another way not to make format?20:03
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Pelohusterd, that's my best solution, someone else might know better,  try booting into the install you have now and seeif you can get into the console mode , from there maybe someone else can help you fix it20:04
svm_invictvsexit20:04
svm_invictvswhoops20:04
Guest47081i am trying to mount my windows harddrive on ubuntu, however fdisk and gparted do not see the HDD.  It sees my other harddrives and I do have NTFS configuration tool installed and set to read ntfs20:05
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submanCan someone help me setup printing over internet?20:07
bekksGuest47081: Then take a look at dmesg to check whats wrong with your windows drive.20:07
bkfitzCan someone tell me why port 1720 is showing as open on my server?  I'm using ufw but only allow 22, 80, etc20:08
bekkslsof -i20:08
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bkfitznmap shows 1720 open?20:08
bkfitzserver is ubuntu 10.04 server20:09
bekkslsof -i on your server.20:09
unheedinghas anyone found a cure for kswapd0 running at 100% CPU?20:09
unheedingi've searched high and low but haven't found a solution20:09
bkfitzlsof doesn't exsit on ubuntu server20:09
unheedingthe only thing that stops it is  reboot20:09
bkfitzi guess i can apt-get it20:09
wolsbkfitz: sudo netstat -anp |grep 1720  which process owns the port?20:09
bkfitznothing20:10
wolsthen it's not open20:10
bkfitznmap says it is though20:10
mih1406Why I have to buy FlareGet even it is an open source program?20:10
bkfitznmap 66.288.57.20820:10
onewithhammerbkfitz are tou on windows?20:10
wolsnmap is a crap software which is utterly useless for what you are trying to see20:10
Guest47081bekks, humm not sure what I am looking for20:11
wolsbkfitz: can you connect to the port?20:11
bkfitznegative... ubuntu 12.04 laptop20:11
bkfitzwols: how should I try20:11
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wolsbkfitz: are you saing this port is open on  telnet  66.288.57.208 172020:12
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wols?20:12
bekksGuest47081: For errors/hints what happened to your windows drive.20:12
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bkfitzwols: i guess20:12
bkfitzwols: I'm confused20:12
wolsbkfitz: really. IP 66.288.57.208 ?20:12
wolsthat is not a valid IP20:12
bkfitzwols: yes20:12
bkfitzwols: sorry 66.228.57.208 typo20:13
randyboHey, I was wondering if I backup using the backup that comes with ubuntu 12.04 will it back up all my settings also? like compiz settings?20:13
bekksrandybo: Depends on how you configure it.20:13
randybohow can I got about it so it does?20:13
Guest47081bekks, here is my dmesg output.20:13
wolsbkfitz: telnet 66.228.57.208 1720  tries to connect to the port you say is open. it won't connect cause it is not20:13
Guest47081bekks, opps sorry here you go http://pastebin.com/JBqbyrLQ20:14
bkfitzwols: then why would nmap show it open?20:14
wolsbkfitz: cause it's faulty and has bugs or you are not able to use it properly20:14
randybobekks: how can I go about it so it does?20:14
bekksGuest47081: How many disks do you have?20:14
bkfitzwols: all I'm doing is nmap IP :)20:15
bkfitzwols: maybe faulty/bugs???20:15
bekksrandybo: I have never used that tool, I am creating backups with my own scripts, fitting my personal needs.20:15
TomyLobograhh, i hibernated my laptop, wanted to power it up in the train to play some games, but somehow the stupid ecrypt lost my user folder... Logging in as usual, i get an unwindowmanagered windows saying "Call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?). Check your installation."20:15
wolsbkfitz: I ran nmap on it just now. and you have postgresql open to the world. bad idea20:15
bkfitzwols: temporary20:15
bkfitzwols: i know20:16
TomyLobologged in via console, all that's to be found is some random crap explaining me to use ecrypt-mount-userdata or something20:16
bkfitzwols: it's a linode hosted box with no UI... so i open it temporarily to use pgadmin20:16
Guest47081bekks, I have a RAID5 hard drives that Ubuntu sees fine (3 partitions 4 GB, 1 GB , and 605 GB - these have an old version of Kubuntu installed) and I have a seperate physical HDD directly plugged into one of my SATA ports on my motherboard (this is the one with Windows installed)20:16
TomyLobo(which failed too, btw... said my password is wrong)20:16
wolsbkfitz: learn to configure a VPN20:16
onewithhammerwols: did you scan him?20:17
wolsyes I ran nmap on his host to check what he said about port 1720. and he was wrong: nmap doesn't show that port open at all20:17
bekksGuest47081: You are mixing up "partitions" and "drives" in a way I dont understand how many drives you have.20:18
AndChat560000Hi20:18
bekksGuest47081: How many physical disk drives do you have?20:18
bkfitzwols: :)20:18
bkfitzwols: ufw deny 5432. done20:18
wolsbkfitz: but for the future, a VPN would be a good idea (imho)20:18
wolsbkfitz: or even a ssh port forward20:19
bkfitzwols: agree... just never done it and haven't had time.. .but that nmap result is weird... did you see 1720 when you ran it?20:19
wolssame for the proxy if it is one, and of course disable ftp altogether. you have ssh, that's enough :)20:19
Guest47081bekks, sorry I have 4 total drives (3 are in a RAID 5 array using a MegaRAID PCI controller) and the forth is the one with Windows only installed... so total of 4 physical drives20:19
wolsbkfitz: no nmap20:19
bkfitzwols: huh... ok thx :)20:20
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wolsbkfitz: whenever nmap shows a port, use telnet or nc to connect to it, to see if it actually responds.20:20
bkfitzwols: good policy thx20:20
wolsand when you own the host in question, always use sudo netstat -anp |grep LIST20:20
bekksGuest47081: Then why do we see 3 drives, while (since you are using a HW raid controller) we should see only 2 drives (the RAID and the 4th drive)?20:21
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Guest47081bekks, the raid is split into 3 logical drives (4GB, 1GB swap, 605 GB) via the PCI card, I also am running Ubuntu LiveCD through a  USB stick (4GB)...... my missing WIndows HDD is 250GB20:25
bekksGuest47081: Then pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please20:25
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randyboIf I am looking to back up my settings and all my programs what folders would I want to put into my backup?20:26
Guest47081bekks, here you go: http://pastebin.com/SeF1Vsfr20:26
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wolsrandybo: all20:27
MonkeyDustrandybo  for all you programs, use dpkg --set-selections20:27
TaJMoXHelp! ALT+TAB and ALT+F4 doesn't work anymore. Any ideas on what I can try to fix it? Ubuntu 12.0420:28
TomyLoboMy user folder's contents disappeared. now all i see is Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop, .ecryptfs, .Private and README.txt20:28
TomyLoboand i cant log in with KDE anymore, only text mode20:28
TomyLobokubuntu 12.04 LTS20:28
TomyLoboi tried ecryptfs-mount-private, but it doesn't accept my user account password20:29
bekksGuest47081: There are four drives. Should be enough ;)20:30
zoktaralmost all my video players crash while playing mkvs and mp4's anyone else have issues like this?20:31
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wols!errors | zoktar20:32
ubottuzoktar: If you have problems or errors, you will need to describe/paste them. Please use the !pastebin for errors that cannot be quoted in a single IRC message20:32
Guest47081bekks, yes I see 4 but there should be 5-- sda1=4GB Thumb drive with Live CD on it, sdb1=4GB ext3, sdc1=1GB swap, sdd1= 634GB ext3, what it does not show is my 250GB NTFS20:33
TomyLobogoogle says "When you originally ran ecryptfs-setup-private, you were asked for two things. Your Login Password, and a file encryption key."20:34
TomyLoboi was never asked for a file encryption key!20:34
BsimsI am having problems with wireless... wlan0 is not created, and is not availible... lsusb shows the device correctly, ath9k_htc is loaded but no joy20:35
Guest47081bekks, if it helps here is my lshw output: http://pastebin.com/BH4MVUDZ20:36
delinquentmehow can I run a grep for "---" as a literal?20:36
TomyLobo-- then ---20:36
TomyLoboi think20:36
wolsBsims: pastebin your dmesg output20:37
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Bsimswols: I am under windows at work, it appears I have hit this problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/173457/usb-wi-fi-netgear-wnda3200-unable-to-allocate-urbs-error20:37
kev^i have a question. how can non-root users shut down a system? for example, XBMC can shut down the system as a normal user.20:37
jribdelinquentme: grep -- "---"20:37
kev^just a general linux question i suppose20:37
TaJMoXHelp! ALT+TAB and ALT+F4 doesn't work anymore. Any ideas on what I can try to fix it? Ubuntu 12.0420:38
mr_daviddelinquentme: grep "\-\-\-"20:38
mr_davidkev^: sudo20:38
bkfitzwols: RE vpn do you recommend OpenVPN20:38
delinquentmeand then what if i need to make it recursive?20:38
wolsbkfitz: yes20:39
bkfitzwols: this is a production server... do I need to worry about messing things up... should I try on our test box here :)20:39
wolsbkfitz: or for the short term, quick fix, a ssh port forward20:39
bkfitzwols: ssh port fwd?20:39
bkfitzwols: 22 - 543220:40
wolsbkfitz: never noticed any problem but since it's a VPS, I dunno how the virtualization is handled. OpenVPN needs to create a kernel network interface for itself of course20:40
bkfitzwols: won't that route all traffic on 22 to 543220:40
TaJMoXkev^ It's because the user is in the ACPI group (/etc/group)20:40
mr_daviddelinquentme: grep -R20:40
TaJMoXkev^ that gives him permission to use shutdown20:40
BsimsAh it appears its a kernel bug, its being loaded as a bulk usb20:41
bkfitzwols: apparently they support it : http://library.linode.com/networking/openvpn :)20:41
wolsbkfitz: no it won't. you designate a single port on your client end, and everything you send to this local port will get forwarded to the pgsql port on the remote machine20:41
TaJMoXkev^ Wait, there is no acpi group on this OS. So it must be the sudo group or adm group.20:42
Bsimswols: thanks anyway... lol just got to run a wire to see if I can get a kernel update to get the wireless to work20:42
bekksGuest47081: You can see four disks.20:43
AurelioMount raid on... what?20:43
bekksAurelio: ... a mountpoint.20:44
Aureliolike what ?20:44
Aureliowhats a good idea ?20:44
bekksAurelio: /mnt/myraid20:44
Aureliohmm, alright cool, thanks. Still not getting the hang of Linux file systems20:45
Guest47081bekks, i must be missing the other disk, what is it listed as /dev/sde1?1?20:45
bekksGuest47081: sde would be the 5th disk.20:45
RealOptyzHow can i make it so when i use my tv, to auto select 720p mode? plz and ty in advanced :)20:47
Guest47081bekks, humm well sda1 = thumb drive, sdb1 = ext3, sdc1 = swap, sdd1  = ext3   .... still not seeing NTFS20:47
systems7hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?20:48
bekksGuest47081: Did you triple check the cabling?20:48
systems7how to set up a 2 pin push button switch to an internal serial heddeR?20:48
bekks!patience | systems720:49
ubottusystems7: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:49
systems7huh?20:49
systems7i only asked once20:49
wolssystems7: how is this ubuntu support related?20:49
Guest47081bekks, yes... if I reboot and go to my bios and set the Windows Harddrive to boot first, than Windows boots fine20:49
bekkssystems7: At least two times. At 214820 and 21485220:49
systems7becuase its gonna trigger an ubuntu commoand20:49
Guest47081bekks, I even tried new SATA cables on all my drives20:50
TaJMoXRealOptyz use the ATI or Nvidia control software?20:50
bekksGuest47081: Which Ubuntu do you use exactly?20:50
TaJMoXRealOptyz I don't know how to do it if you have an Intel card.20:50
wolssystems7: that doesn't make it ubuntu related at all. sounds more like something for #electronics or #hardware20:50
RealOptyzYes im aware of that20:50
RealOptyzI was hoping for a command line approach20:50
systems7wols: thanks20:50
TaJMoXRealOptyz For me, when I'm using my monitor it automatically chooses 1920x1200 and when I turn on my TV it selects 1280x720 automatically (ATI)20:51
Guest47081bekks, currently I am running off a Live CD.  on the EXT3 drives it has a old 8.xx Kubuntu version20:51
RealOptyzI was kind of reading about xrandr. Maybe there is a way to set a 'preferred '20:51
Guest47081bekks, sorry the livecd is Ubuntu 12.1020:51
lloowenHello all! Can anyone point me to a good tutorial about how to change a kernel from the command line as I want to change the kernel on my VPS, if that is at all possible!20:53
RealOptyzTaJMoX: When using my TV it likes to auto select 1366*768. quite irritating lol20:53
bekkslloowen: It isnt, since the kernel image is built by your ISP, to fit their needs.20:53
bekkslloowen: So unless your ISP provides a new package for you, you'll have to stay on that kernel.20:54
lloowenbekks: Hmmm I figured something like that was happening. I changed from 10.04 to 11.04 but the kernel was the same!20:54
wolsbekks: wouldn't that depend on the kind of VPS? e.g. he might run under a Xen one20:55
dbuggerHey guys. I have connected my Playstation to the aux in, on my computer. How can I make that the audio comes out through the speakers?20:55
physically_fithi friends20:55
bekkslloowen: Because updating the release will not update the kernel automagically.20:55
bekkswols: And without a domU kernel, he'll break his VPS. :)20:56
lloowenbekks: I suspect my VPS have rigged it so that it is practically impossible to set up a tun/tap interface or even run openSwan20:57
chris_is_meso is there a way to disable screen blanking that works better than installing xscreensaver as with xscreensaver running when i reopen my laptop lid it never wakesup20:57
Jaimedbugger: you should enable the mic output and turn up the volume, did you do it?20:58
sudokodechris_is_me: xset20:58
dbuggerHow do I do that?20:58
bekkslloowen: Well, then you have to contact their support, I guess.20:58
dbuggerJaime, Im not sure how to do that in Ubuntu20:58
Jaimeyou should open the audio preferences in the system setup20:58
chris_is_mesudokode: doesn't work tryed that20:58
physically_fitdbugger, i don't know if this can help you, but i was reading this today; it helped me to listen to my mic through my speakers: http://blog.flipzu.com/2011/02/how-to-mix-voice-and-audio-on-ubuntu.html20:58
aleksandar22anyone got tunngle running with or without wine20:59
chris_is_mei'm using 12.10 upgraded from 12.420:59
aleksandar22or any unoffical way to connect to tunngle networks20:59
chris_is_mesetting in control panel are completly ignored20:59
dbuggerJaime, i rightclick on the speaker icon and I open "Sound Settings" Over there in the Input tab theres nothing really to enable21:00
physically_fitdbugger also you'll need this command too, to unload the numbers (modules) you'll get: pactl unload-module <number>21:00
somanHi guys. Tell me please any good app for recording video from desktop. Ubuntu 12.0421:00
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physically_fitdbugger, are you listening to me? did you check that link i gave you?21:01
Jaimedbugger: i think physically_fit, it's on the right way21:01
GerowenCan anybody provide me with a good Linux alternative to Skype for calling land-line phones from your computer or smart-phone?21:02
dbuggerphysically_fit, Im reading it, wait21:02
GerowenSkype is just letting me down over and over.21:02
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AlexNagyGerowen: why? It works, sort of.21:02
physically_fitdbugger anotate this command too, or you'll get too many sound streams: pactl unload-module <number>21:03
dbuggerphysically_fit, but isnt that article for the "mic" jack?21:03
dbuggerI have the console on the aux-in jack21:03
physically_fitdbugger, yeah, that's why i said i wasn't sure if that could help you, but it may guide you somewhere....21:04
GerowenIt works well enough for calls to other skype users, but for some reason when I've tried using it to interact with land-line phones it doesn't ring half the time when people call, sometimes when I call a number I know is correct I get re-routed to a random person, and more often than not when someone does answer when I've called them the phone stays totally silent and I have to hang up and call back a 2nd time.21:04
physically_fitover the rainbow21:04
dbuggerI already did it once in the past, even though Im not sure how21:04
dbuggerIm sure it was nothing like that21:04
Samus_Arandoes anyone know how I can fix Ubuntu's networking?  after a broken update, my Ubuntu can no longer connect to wireless or wired networks.  the icon just keeps trying to connect and fails always.21:04
AlexNagyGerowen: I've not had that issue calling landlines. ):21:04
Samus_Arancurrently I am manually using "dhclient eth0", but that disconnects every couple minutes21:04
dbuggerI remember typing some sort of command in the terminal, which showed me something similar to the alsamixer, but with lot more channels. Turning one of them up fixed the issue21:05
physically_fitdbugger, also the command alsamixer you can enable the tracks you need21:05
RealOptyzHow can i make it so when i use my tv, to auto select 720p mode? plz and ty in advanced :)21:05
GerowenI didn't used to, it's weird.  I use it primarily on my Android phone which seems to be where most of the problems happen.21:05
RealOptyznvidia drivers21:05
AlexNagyGerowen: ah21:05
physically_fithi bipolar21:06
dbuggerphysically_fit, in the alsamixer there isnt anything that can help me21:06
physically_fitdbugger, i dunno, i been researching since today only this thing21:07
zoktar!pastebin21:08
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Samus_Arandbugger: ALSA provides no wrapping for the mixer items, meaning that it is whatever the hardware provides.  this is often non-sensical to humans.  sometimes you need to adjust two or even three mixer controls to actually do what you want.21:09
dbuggerSamus_Aran, Id adjust 20 if I knew which ones :P21:10
Samus_Arandbugger: and make sure they're all unmuted (press 'm' so there are no "MM" items below the mixers)21:11
Greg___I was wondering if anybody can help me with a question?21:11
Samus_Arandbugger: I missed the part where you said what you were trying to do.  record, play sound?21:11
bekks!ask | Greg___21:11
ubottuGreg___: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:11
Samus_AranGreg___: it would be easier to help you with an answer.  :)21:12
Greg___The sudoers file on a ubuntu box has been corrupted, and Policykit is not on the machine ... how can I fix the box without reloading the entire box21:12
Greg___Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS is what I am running on the machine21:13
bekksGreg___: "has been corrupted" - how?21:13
Samus_AranGreg___: did you ever add a password for root?21:13
Greg___no password for root, and the sudoers file was changed21:13
bekksGreg___: How was it changed...?21:13
Samus_AranGreg___: you will need to boot from CD, then chroot to your distro.  this way you will be root user, and can install packages and so forth21:13
Greg___using nano adding a new user to the file21:13
Samus_Aranreinstall the packages you messed up21:14
zoktarsample output from vlc segfaulting, almost all other players segfault similarly http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327544/21:14
* nydel wonders why so many people running lucid are coming in for support lately21:14
bekksSamus_Aran: He cant, with a messed up sudoers file.21:14
bekksGreg___: And did you change the existing entries?21:14
Samus_Aranbekks: please re-read what I suggested.  it does not use sudo.21:14
Greg___Ok so boot from CD than chroot, and then I will be able to edit that file right21:14
bekksGreg___: And did you change the existing entries?21:15
Greg___no I did not change what was already there21:15
Greg___I just added a new line21:15
Samus_AranGreg___: what line did you add?21:15
bekksGreg___: Then why cant you just use sudo then, with your old user?21:15
Samus_Aranstrange to remove permissions from your user.  :)21:16
TomyLobomy laptop (less than a week old, kubuntu 12.04 LTS, crypted home folder since installation) fails to mount the crypted home folder. hibernate failed to resume about 5 times, i think that's relevant, too.21:16
Greg___I get this error /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 10 <<< sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 10 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting21:16
TomyLobohow do i recover my data?21:16
Greg___it is weird, and that happens no matter what username is used21:16
BluPhenix316hey when i try to boot the ubuntu 12.10 cd it just boots to a blackscreen with a grub prompt21:17
bekksGreg___: Thats not weird. sudo doesnt work as long as the sudoers file contains unparseable errors.21:17
Greg___ahh ok21:17
bekksGreg___: You have to use a live cd, revoke your changes and try again.21:17
Greg___ok21:17
chitraHi all21:18
linkandzeldaYay, I'm finally on Ubuntu21:18
BluPhenix316is my ubuntu 12.10 cd corrupt or is it a problem with uefi?21:18
chitraI just installed ubuntu 12.0421:18
chitraI am not able to download python packages for it21:18
physically_fitlinkandzelda, 12.10 or 12.04?21:18
Greg___is Policykit-1 default or is that something I have to download seperate21:18
linkandzeldaphysically_fit, 12.1021:18
linkandzeldaand I'm using Xchat21:18
chitraI am trying sudo apt-get install python-dateutil21:18
BluPhenix316linkandzelda, gratz, i can't even get the live cd to boot21:19
bekksGreg___: Did you remove it? Why do you need it to be installed?21:19
BluPhenix316it just seems me to a grub prompt21:19
chitrait says :0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 48 not upgraded.21:19
ms_choudhary_200chitra what error are you getting?21:19
linkandzeldaBluPhenix316, what device?21:19
kate_rhi21:19
kate_rif a deploy a production server, should i fire it up inside a screen? or is there a better way?21:19
chitraseems like already installed21:19
Samus_AranBluPhenix316: you could try the alternate install CD21:19
chitrait is happening with all the packages21:19
Greg___No I did not remove it, but I know that is another way to fix the problem if that is installed.21:20
BluPhenix316Samurs_Aran: what is that? I've tried burning the ISO to a disc and writing it to a usb stick and same thing21:20
chitrasudo apt-get install postgresql21:20
bekksGreg___: Thats no fix at all for a broken sudoers file.21:20
BluPhenix316what is the alternate install cd?21:20
bekksGreg___: since root has no pw set, you cant login as root.21:21
Samus_AranBluPhenix316: sometimes the default install CD has issues with the graphics card in the system and ends up without a visible screen.  in those cases, there is the alternate install CD that doesn't have graphics.21:21
Samus_AranBluPhenix316: it uses a semi-graphical text mode installer that is fairly easy to follow21:21
Greg___ahh ok21:21
Greg___Thank you very much21:22
chitrams_choudhary_200: sometimes I am getting error like this21:22
ms_choudhary_200my college network administrator blocks chat on irc. How can i connect? Tried with tor, didn't worked.21:22
chitrahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1327567/21:22
Samus_AranGreg___: boot from CD, check if your Ubuntu system is auto-mounted (it should be), then from a terminal do: sudo chroot /mnt/whatever21:22
BluPhenix316Samurs_Aran: the problem i'm having through is, complicated, I had it working before, I was dual-booting between windows 7 and windows 8(i hate it, but it was a required school project), I installed ubuntu overtop of windows 8 but couldn't get back into 7, so i installed windows 8 again, removed windows 8 from windows boot manager and tried to reinstall ubuntu and now the disc just sends me to the grub prompt21:22
Samus_AranGreg___: then you can do "visudo" to edit the file21:23
BluPhenix316i really can't stand uefi but i'm stuck with it for now21:23
linkandzeldaBluPhenix316, do you have a mac or a pc?21:23
trismchitra: did you run: sudo apt-get update; yet?21:23
Greg___Awesome :) thank you21:23
BluPhenix316linkandzelda: pc, Alienware X-5121:23
chitrano21:23
linkandzeldai see21:23
Samus_AranBluPhenix316: GRUB is installed to your hard drive, if it's booting from CD there is no GRUB involved.  it sounds like your BIOS is not booting from the CD21:24
trismchitra: then do it and try again21:24
chitratrism : i was getting same in sudp apt-get update too21:24
Samus_AranBluPhenix316: do you have to press some key to choose to boot from CD?21:24
chitrabut now it is showing me there are some updates21:24
chitratrism: why does that needs, I mean I have just downloaded ubuntu12.04 ,is not a updated one?21:25
BluPhenix316no21:25
BluPhenix316and its not grub, i installed mint fine but i was hoping to install ubuntu21:26
linusoleanderCan I specify a pid file when using "nohup" ?21:26
bekkslinusoleander: No.21:26
BluPhenix316i know its a uefi issue but i'm running out of ideas21:26
Samus_AranBluPhenix316: what?  you said it goes black on a GRUB screen.  there is no GRUB on the Ubuntu install CD at all, it uses I think ISOLinux21:26
linusoleanderbekks: Do you know anything similar to nohup which makes it possible to specify a pid file?21:26
trismchitra: you have to run that after you first install to download the latest package index, otherwise you won't be able to install most packages21:27
bekkslinusoleander: Specifying a pid file will not help you at all. A pid file is not a running process, but a file.21:27
chitratrism: thanks21:27
linusoleanderbekks: Yes, i know. But I need to pid for the process that's being started21:27
linkandzeldanow I've installed Ubuntu I have no idea what to do next lol21:27
BluPhenix316Samus_Aran, when i put the cd in, it goes to a grub prompt, if i don't have the cd in, i can choose either a windows boot manager or mint21:28
bekkslinusoleander: You cant predict the PID that is gonna be used.21:28
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BluPhenix316and the grub prompt says grub version 1.99something something ubuntu something hehe21:28
physically_fitikonia, friend, are you here?21:28
chitratrism: I was thinking to install the packages and start my work and later ,updates can run , So it is not a right way?21:28
linusoleander bekks I want to tell the current application to use a specific file as pid pile21:28
linusoleander*file21:28
Samus_AranBluPhenix316: okay, that's news to me that the CD is using GRUB.  I guess GRUB 2 can manage boot CDs21:28
linusoleandernohup --pid /tmp/prod.pid && kill `/tmp/prod.pid`21:29
BluPhenix316Samus_Aran: i tried using linux usb creator, which normally uses syslinux, but that uses grub as well21:29
linusoleanderbekks: Like that ^21:29
BluPhenix316for ubuntu 12.1021:29
bekkslinusoleander: That is not possible as I just stated.21:29
trismchitra: update doesn't install new packages, just index for the packages, you use apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade; to upgrade the packages21:30
linusoleanderbekks: Why is that, it works with "rackup" for example21:30
BluPhenix316maybe my iso is just corrupt and i should download another21:30
bekkslinusoleander: I never heard of "rackup" until now.21:30
bekkslinusoleander: And killing a file, not a PID, is just nonsense.21:31
linusoleanderbekks: Yeah, I missed the cat part21:31
linusoleanderbekks: The idea of specifying a pid file for a process isn't strange at all. Why would it?21:31
BluPhenix316think Secure Boot would effect it any? right now I have secure boot disabled21:31
linusoleanderI can do it for mysql, postgresql, redis and so on21:32
cjosephI have some source code I've modified and got running fine. I uploaded the code to github and cloned it to another ubuntu machine, and it won't compole on the second machine. The configure script won't even run, it just prints out this:  syntax error near unexpected token `config.h'21:32
bekkslinusoleander: Because a "pid file" may contain everything - it doesnt have to contain a PID. And a process is not forced to actually create a PID file at all. Thats why it is nonsense.21:32
simplewi have installed kubuntu, so when runing firefox and clicking to open or save file, in the dialog that apepars does apepars the Documents, Downloads, Pictures, Videos directories, what package i need to isntall to have those dirs appearing in the "Save As" firefox dialog?21:32
Samus_AranBluPhenix316: so yeah, I recommend the alternate CD, as it tends to have far fewer issues: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads21:33
nydelhmm, mail-notifier is crashing right after i run it. could anyone help me troubleshoot?21:33
BluPhenix316Samus_Aran: thank you!21:33
Samus_AranBluPhenix316: I'm not familiar with secure boot21:33
linusoleanderbekks: Yes, i know that is why I'm asking if there is a wrapper application which can store the pid in a file so I can access it later21:33
dj_corncobI want to play around with writing client-server sockets.  What should I use in ubuntu to simulate a server on my machine?21:33
skypcei have a question21:34
linusoleanderI need to know the pid for a specific process to be able to track it21:34
linusoleanderI don't understand why that's strange21:34
skypcethe "--" option is need in kernel boot options?21:34
BluPhenix316i can't wait for Steam on Linux, if Valve can convince bethesda to make native linux versions of their games through steam, i won't ever need windows again21:34
jriblinusoleander: so record the pid when you start it, no?21:34
linusoleanderjrib: How?21:35
jriblinusoleander: how are you starting it?21:35
jriblinusoleander: and what is "it"?21:35
Samus_AranBluPhenix316: it seems they don't have an alternate install CD for 12.10, but they do for 12.0421:35
linusoleanderjrib: Just by calling it. "/usr/bin/mybinary"21:36
BluPhenix316Samus_Aran: they have the net install mini iso, that should do it, i have a decent wired connection21:36
linusoleanderjrib: It's a bunch of different background processes21:36
jriblinusoleander: that information is available as some bash variable.  See its documentation.  Better yet, ask #bash as they might suggest to you a better way to do what you want21:37
BluPhenix316ok lets give this a shot, if it works i'll be back and let ya know if your curious21:37
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Samus_Arandj_corncob: you can do that lots of different ways.  what's the issue with just running the server and client programs on the same machine?  if you need virtual machines, you can use VirtualBox, QEMU, or there's one that lets you run another Linux kernel/system directly.21:37
nydelhas anyone got m-audio drivers for ubuntu/linux? specifically for a firewire device?21:38
linusoleanderjrib: Yes, I know that. but I need to know the exact possision of the pid file before starting it21:38
jriblinusoleander: what?  Why is there suddenly a "pid file" involved?21:38
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linusoleanderjrib: I need the pid file. Have you ever used monit, god or bluepill?21:39
chitratrism: is there a differenct in sudo apt-get update and update from update manager?21:39
jriblinusoleander: no.21:39
Samus_Arannydel: if it is not supported by ALSA, give OSS v4 a try, it has a lot of excellent sound drivers21:39
linusoleanderjrib: Anyhow, I need to write a pid file for any background process I start21:40
trismchitra: no21:40
jriblinusoleander: I think you should state what your actual goal is.21:40
nydelSamus_Aran: do you have the appropriate URL to check about ALSA support? & for OSS v4? i'm not familiar with OSS v4 at all.21:40
trismchitra: well, checking for updates no, but again, apt-get update; doesn't actually install packages21:40
linusoleanderI've a background process that's being tracked by monit. Monit needs the pid file to be able to track it21:40
chitratrism: what it actually does?21:41
Samus_Arannydel: #OSS channel here on FreeNode.  their web site is in the URL.  there's also a wiki page that tells you how to set up apps to use OSS instead of ALSA.21:41
trismchitra: downloads information about available packages21:41
jriblinusoleander: so if a program creates a pid file, give monit the pid file.  If a program does not create a pid file, create it.21:41
Samus_Arannydel: my browser is lagging, or I'd grab you the URLs21:41
jriblinusoleander: although I imagine if you ask monit support there may be a "better way"21:41
nydelSamus_Aran: have you ever heard of a box that takes an hdmi in, & has a bunch of outs? for example, right now i use my laptop & an HDMI out to HDMI1, my television. then i use RCA outs to my firewire M-Audio which is running on a windows desktop over there. & outs from the m-audio go to dual monitor speakers as well as another set of speakers.21:42
Samus_Arannydel: years ago OSS (Open Sound System) was the only Linux sound system.  then OSS switched to v3 and became closed-source, so ALSA was invented to fill in the gap.  OSS with v4 went back to open source.21:42
nydelSamus_Aran: but i would be interested in a box that just takes the HDMI & has a bunch of outs21:42
Samus_Arannydel: that sounds like a lot of passing through.  wouldn't that create delays in the sound?21:43
chitratrism: just info about available packages?21:43
jriblinusoleander: here read this: http://mmonit.com/wiki/Monit/FAQ#pidfile21:43
trismchitra: yes21:43
chitrait takes so many MBs and time?21:43
trismchitra: there are many many packages21:43
simplewsomething is very wrong, if i restart network-manager service i get DOUBLED wifi network entries from network-manager icon21:43
booh- Fresh install.  I try to access in IMAP, plain text passwd, outside my LAN without success...21:43
nydelSamus_Aran: no delay, unless i'm experiencing a very pleasing chorus effect, but it couldn't be more than 10ms i doubt, else i'd be able to tell21:44
chitratrism: may be :/21:44
linusoleanderjrib: I was a bit fast there, I'm not using monit atm, I'm using bluepill. Thanks anyway21:44
chitratrism: synaptic pakage manager does the same thing?21:44
linusoleanderjrib: But I get the point21:44
trismchitra: if you click Reload yes21:44
linusoleanderI was hoping that linux had something build in21:44
ubuntu-fan001hi21:50
Samus_Aranubuntu-fan001: hello21:50
Samus_Arannydel: I've never used Firewire or USB soundcards, myself, but any time I have issues with ALSA I just switch to OSS v4 and the issues are gone.  :)21:51
ubuntu-fan001i have some question about setting vpn in ubuntu21:51
gordonjcp!ask | ubuntu-fan00121:52
ubottuubuntu-fan001: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:52
ubuntu-fan001awright21:52
ubuntu-fan001my bad21:53
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ubuntu-fan001is there a way to setup l2tp vpn in ubuntu21:53
guntbertubuntu-fan001: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN ?21:54
dadacc21:55
ubuntu-fan001no21:55
dadaya des francais ?21:55
guntbert!fr | dada21:55
ubottudada: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.21:55
Multbrelch:)21:55
chitratrism: you were right, updates are working now21:56
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chitra:)21:57
trismchitra: happy to hear it21:57
chitra:))21:58
chitraIt was too important for me ,I am not sleeping whole night just for setup the system,tomorrow need to leave from here22:00
chitra:)22:00
chitrathere are soo many packages but all are small in size22:01
chitramost of22:01
DeathStaris there a wine help channel?22:01
guntbertDeathStar: #winehq22:02
ubuntu-fan001gunbert:so there is no way22:02
ubuntu-fan001i just look at the link you gave me22:03
guntbertubuntu-fan001: well, I have to admit the page is rather old22:04
ubuntu-fan001yeah22:04
chitraon other system's ip irc chat is disabled,I get message something like contact to admin ..22:04
ubuntu-fan001do we have now?22:04
chitrawhat I need to do for that?22:04
ubuntu-fan001the l2tp support for ubuntu22:05
dr_willischitra:  what irc client and whats the exact message?22:05
guntbertubuntu-fan001: please have a look at http://bailey.st/blog/2011/07/14/connecting-to-a-l2tpipsec-vpn-from-ubuntu-desktop/22:06
eyastaifourHi, I need help installing ubuntu please. i have a machine that has Windows 7, can access USB (but cant boot from it), cant access CD/DVD (drive is bunked), and can emulate an ISO as a disk (on Windows 7) :)22:06
ubuntu-fan001thank u22:07
eyastaifouranyone up for a challenge ? :)22:07
ubuntu-fan001i will22:07
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/100039/l2tp-vpn-connection-plugin22:08
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Belz3buthhell! :)22:08
Belz3buth*o x)22:08
chitraactually what happened with me is , I registered a nick on a system but I was using the nic without register from many days on other system,today after register I went to other computer and opened the irc ,it said the nick is registerd please verify : I started to verify but before it ,I got a message that my ip is blocked for IRC22:08
dr_williseyastaifour:  you sure you are making the boot usb thing correctly? does it work in other machines>22:08
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guntbertubuntu-fan001: dr_willis found more ^^^^22:09
chitradr_willis: dont remember the actual message but it was something like I need to contact to admin22:09
eyastaifourdr_willis:  its an old machine: it cant boot from USB... it has windows on it now, and I copied the ubuntu.ISO on it (via a USB drive)22:09
dr_willischitra:  the  register your nick web site from freenode said that? If so ask in #freenode22:09
ubuntu-fan001yeah22:09
dr_williseyastaifour:  i would be amazed that a machine so old it cant boot from USB is even able to run windows 722:09
ubuntu-fan001thank dr willis22:10
eyastaifourdr_willis: im amazed as well.22:10
dr_williseyastaifour:  if you got a spare small hard drive you could image the ISO file to the HD plug it in. boot from it then install to a differnt HD i guess...22:10
chitraeyastaifour: are you jocking?22:10
chitra:P22:10
eyastaifourdr_willis: i can not BOOT from USB. in my boot menu, i have: CD, HDD, and network22:11
chitradr_wills: yes something like that22:11
eyastaifourmy DVD drive doesnt work. i m not interested in setting up PXE now22:11
dr_williseyastaifour:  ive seen usb NOT show up IF the usb flash is not bootable. Ie: not made properly.22:11
eyastaifouri have windows, and there's an ISO there - ubuntu ISO. and i have a 40 GB unallocated space on the HDD22:11
dr_willisguess you could try virtualbox and get lucky.. but that is most likely not a good idea to try to do a real install to a real hd from within vbox.22:12
mcoffeeCall me a noob, but I would like to ssh to localhost.22:12
dr_willismcoffee:  and whats stopping you?22:13
persona24Hello, how do I list the other drives in my terminal? I need to access my other hard drive22:13
Jordan_Upersona24: sudo blkid22:13
mcoffeedr_willis: this is what I get "ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused"22:13
dr_willispersona24:  mount would show the other drives and mountpoints if they are mounted.22:13
eyastaifourno virtualization for me. i need it running on the box directly22:13
dr_willismcoffee:  you did install the ssh service?>22:13
dr_williseyastaifour:  i was hinting at using vbox to do a 'real' install to the hd. you would then boot...22:14
mcoffeeNo. I guess I'll give that a try.22:14
dr_willismcoffee:  ssh service is not installed by default. ;)22:14
Jordan_Upersona24: That lists partitions with filesystems, which is generally more usefull than listing drives.22:14
mcoffeedr_willis: is the package `openssh-server` the one I should use?22:14
mcoffeedr_willis: I mean install.22:15
dr_willis!sshd22:15
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, sshd is the server (or daemon) of SSH. For setting up the SSH server, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html . Advanced SSH uses: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced . For SSH client information, see !ssh . Related: !scp (Secure CoPy)22:15
eyastaifouri've just installed a new bootloader via wbui.exe22:15
persona24ok, so I enter mount and it just gives me some info I don't really understand22:15
eyastaifourbut since my CD doesnt work, it's not getting me anywhere. although, I have bash (or some shell) now.22:15
mcoffeeubottu: thanks22:15
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)22:15
dr_willispersona24:  a list of the various filesystems and their mountpoints..22:15
eyastaifourcan i use this to access my NTFS partition where my ubuntu ISO lives, mount it, and then run an install ?22:15
dr_willispersona24:  give us more details and we may be able to help more.22:15
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Yes.22:16
dr_willisthats even scarier then using vbox ;)22:16
eyastaifourJordan_U: wow - awesome. how do i proceed doing so ? :)22:16
madjestichey guys, I am trying to silence xauth error messages.  I can't figure out the right syntax.  I am trying 'xauth 2>/dev/null' but that does not seem to do the job22:16
persona24dr_willis: I just want to be able to mount onto my d drive22:16
dr_willispersona24:  you mean you want to access your windows d: drive?22:17
dbuggerHey guys. I have my playstation connected to the aux in, but nothing is comming out through the speakers. Is there anything special I need to do for this to work?22:17
persona24dr_willis: yes22:17
dr_willispersona24:  normally you just select  the disk in the file manager list and it auto-mounts it.. UNLESS the filesystem is currupted or needs checked it should auto mount.22:17
booh-How to use procmail and also use maildir ?22:17
dr_willispersona24:  or you can mount it by hand.22:17
dr_willis!ntfs-3g | persona2422:18
ubottupersona24: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions22:18
ubuntu-fan001is ipsec module working in kernel 3.X?22:18
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: First, since you've used Wubi, you should boot into the Wubi Ubuntu installation from which you can configure grub to boot from the Ubuntu iso.22:18
persona24I've never had luck mounting drives. I'm trying to learn to strickly use the terminal sometimes but mounting has always been my downfall22:18
dr_willispersona24:  mounting is rather.. well.. staight forward...22:19
eyastaifourJordan_U: im still trying to figure out the syntax of mount ... cant seem to remember a lot22:19
dr_willismount /dev/partitionname /media/makeamountpointfirst22:19
dr_willis!mount22:19
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount22:19
bobweaverpersona24,  do you know how to use "mount " and "fdisk ">22:19
persona24bobweaver: not really22:19
bobweaverpersona24,  you can use fdisk to scan drive's and partitions like "sudo fdisk -l "22:20
mcoffeedr_willis: thanks, it worked!22:20
bobweaverpersona24,  this will give you a list of drives and partitions that are attached and then you can mount these drive's to the place that you would like to mount it to example "sudo mount /dev/sda$ /mnt "   where $ is the number of the drive like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 mnt "    mount <DRIVE Number>  < Where you want to Mount >22:22
linkandzeldashould i install GNOME or stick with Unity? I cant decide and im new to everything lol22:23
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Are you currently booted into Ubuntu?22:23
eyastaifourJordan_U: no22:23
eyastaifourmy shell says ; initramfs22:23
eyastaifouri cant find whereis, or fdisk22:23
xangualinkandzelda: Ubuntu uses gnome22:23
eyastaifourand when i try to mount /dev/sda1 - i get "invalig argument"22:24
linkandzeldaI thought its using Unity22:24
vbexangua: not anymore, only as option22:24
blackshirteyastaifour, what are you trying to mount ?22:24
eyastaifourmy partition C: (win7), formatted as NTFS22:25
eyastaifouri booted from what wbui.exe installed.22:25
xangualinkandzelda: vbe ubnity is just a shell for gnome22:25
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: OK, that means that booting failed for some reason. Did you do a normal Wubi installation following the instructions at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-with-windows ? (note that nowhere in those instructions does it say to make a virtual CD in Windows, and you should *not* have done so).22:25
eyastaifourit installed a new entry in my BCD, which takes me to GRUB, which won't load completely (because my CD doesnt work)22:25
eyastaifourmy CD does not function people :)22:25
vbexangua: huh?22:26
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Re-read my comment, I never said that you should be using a CD.22:26
blackshirti thin wubi was not a great solutions if you want explore your linux, they resides on your windows, depends on windows ...22:27
blackshirtthink22:27
eyastaifourJordan_U: sorry, I used wbui.exe that comes at the root of the ISO that I've downloaded and mounted, not the one you shared22:27
vbexangua: to my understanding both are windowmanagers/desktop environments/whatever you call it. not one based on the other22:27
Jordan_Ublackshirt: In this case we're just using Wubi as a stepping stone to a real install.22:27
blackshirtjordan_u, i'm agree with you22:28
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Boot into Windows, remove Wubi, and follow the directions at the link I gave you. Do *not* at any point make a virtual CD.22:28
eyastaifourJordan_U: but my windows machine doesn't have network drivers... it won't be able to download files22:28
eyastaifourcan i add those files manually, from the ISO that I have downloaded22:29
mcoffeeHow would I ssh to a computer that is located remotely? Say the remote IP was 27.99.9.9, and the internal IP of the computer was 192.168.1.12, how would I ssh to it?22:29
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Download the wubi.exe from another machine and put it on a USB drive.22:29
eyastaifour(to clarify: i downloaded it from my mac, and i transfered it to the windows machine, using a USB disk)22:29
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Make sure that you have the wubi.exe and the Ubuntu iso in the same directory when you open wubi.exe, otherwise wubi will try to download the iso itself.22:30
studio_How can I run 3 monitors on 2 video cards?22:30
FernandoBassoWhere does Dash read information from? When I try to open some directories it finds, it says "could not find /path/to/dir".22:31
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eyastaifourJordan_U: do i have to do any cleanup before starting wubi.exe, considering i didnt do it properly the first time22:33
uni4dfxHow can I change the default Java look and feel?22:34
eyastaifouroh, this is awesome... i re-ran wubi.exe, and it asked me to uninstall :)22:35
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Like I said you should remove your current broken Wubi installation first.22:35
eyastaifouryes, i wasn't aware it was as simple as a double-click again :)22:35
BluPhenix316well finally managed to get ubuntu 12.10 installed, but my resolution is stuck at 1024x768 with the nvidia drivers22:37
eyastaifouras soon as I run wubi.exe, it claims there's not enough free space. i do have 40GB of unallocated space which I intend to use for ubuntu22:37
eyastaifourshould I format this as NTFS, and start wubi.exe again ?22:37
BluPhenix316anyone have any luck with nvidia cards and 12.10?22:37
eyastaifouror preferably FAT ?22:38
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: No.22:38
BluPhenix316oh and i have a nvidia 660 gtx, its not optimus22:38
eyastaifourJordan_U: should I free up space from partition C: then? or click on "continue anyway" (in wubi.exe) ?22:39
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: You need enough free space in C: to hold wubi's root.disk, but since this will be temporary you can tell wubi to create as small of a root.disk as it will allow.22:40
KircleSince updating to 12.10 'Disk Usage Analyser' has associated itself with USB devices. When I insert one and try to open it from the unity launcher it opens up. How can I associate USB's with nautilis?22:41
TdaugHow can I set the command for "Workspace Switcher" to one keyboard key, so I can see all 9 of my desktops in one easy to remember keystroke?  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.22:41
linkandzeldathis is taking a lot of getting used to compared to OS X22:42
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mcoffeeHmm... My question went unnanswered for a while. Here's what I asked: How would I ssh to a computer that is located remotely? Say the remote IP was 27.99.9.9, and the internal IP of the computer was 192.168.1.12, how would I ssh to it?22:42
Jordan_Umcoffee: ssh username@27.99.9.922:42
blackshirtmcoffee, just remote it, if22:43
bekksmcoffee: Then you have to create a router portforwarding entry on the router the remote computer is connected to.22:43
BluPhenix316hey anyone know how to get a higher resolution than 1024x768 with nvida drivers in ubuntu 12.10?22:43
almondigadoes anyone know how to route between 2 networks using ubuntu?22:44
guntbertmcoffee: your question is not clear - did you mean that your remote host is behind a router (with the external address 27.99.9.9) ?22:44
mcoffeeYes.22:44
eyastaifourJordan_U:  awesome. so far, i m disabling hibernation, and turning the page file size down. i ll ping again once i have the free disk space22:44
mcoffeeguntbert: yes22:44
mcoffeeOr at least I think.22:45
guntbertmcoffee: in that case follow what bekks said - you need to tell the router to forward traffic to the server22:45
mcoffeeK.22:45
almondigaalguien me puede ayudar a enrutar entre 2 redes desde ubuntu?22:45
mcoffeeguntbert: k22:45
mcoffeebekks: I port-forwarded.22:45
linkandzeldahow do i enable entering password on login?22:46
mcoffeeI'm still a noob at this, but I did a port forward.22:46
mcoffeeAs I would guess simply doing `ssh username@27.99.9.9` doesn't cut it.22:47
mcoffeeI'm guessing that I would also have to add extra arguments to the command.22:47
mcoffeeNot just the username@address argument.22:47
guntbertmcoffee: that should suffice if the port forwarding was done correctly22:47
Lunar_Landerhello22:48
Lunar_Landerwhat does the service "sh" do?22:48
guntbert!enter | mcoffee22:48
ubottumcoffee: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!22:48
frxstremI have a small problem: I often get a "Bus error" when I do things such as edit text files or try to open certain programs (such as Pidgin) - what would be the most likely cause to this?22:48
bekksLunar_Lander: "sh" is a shell, not a service.22:49
eyastaifourJordan_U: it wubi.exe now runs without any warning. but when it asks me about the installation drive, i have 1 option only (obviously), which is C:22:49
Lunar_Landerah22:49
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Yes, and that's what you want to use.22:49
eyastaifourwith 7 GB of free space.. its not where I want ubuntu to be ultimately installed (i want to use the 40 GB unallocated space)22:50
eyastaifourso - this is interim ?22:50
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Yes. We will use the Wubi installation to configure grub to boot from the iso, and then do a real install from there.22:50
Lunar_Landerbecause xterm says it had been connected to one of the canonical servers22:50
dr_willisLunar_Lander:  that dosent make a lot of sence. ;)22:51
dr_willissense either. ;) or cents..22:51
Lunar_Landerhm yea22:51
Lunar_Landerwell I am running this balloon tracking software dl-fldigi at the moment from the terminal which uploads data to the server of spacenear.us22:52
Lunar_Landerand that "sh" line is there as a CLOSE_WAIT22:52
dr_willissh is the default system shell. so some script may have spawned a sh process to handle some task.22:53
Lunar_Landerah ok22:53
Lunar_LanderI'll ask the developers if they know it22:53
Lunar_Landerthanks!22:53
eyastaifourJordan_U: i proceeded with wubi.exe. it asked to be restarted. it gave few errors then. and i now have an u22:53
eyastaifouri cant believe22:53
eyastaifouri have an ubuntu desktop :)22:53
eyastaifourthis is sorcery :)22:54
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Great. How familiar are you with the terminal?22:54
eyastaifoura little bit familiar, i can manage around22:54
URConsultanttell me guys22:54
eyastaifoursomething is saying "copying files"... and i really want to make sure i dont install my stuff on the windows partition22:54
URConsultantsynaptic and apt-get in terminal, it's the same, but if I use both i find some errors in my OS by time22:55
dr_williseyastaifour:  wubi uses a file obn the winedows drive as a virtual hard disk..22:55
eyastaifourdr_willis: offtopic question: it is using this virtual hard disk file just for encapsulating its stuff.. its not an automagical type I hypervisor, right ?22:56
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: OK. Please find the exact path to the Ubuntu iso (or move it to a simple path, such as the root of your Windows partition) and then tell me the path. You can access your Windows partition via /host/ .22:56
dr_williseyastaifour:  wubi boots into  linux same as a hd install would. only uses that disk file instead of a real disk.22:57
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Correct, no virtualization is going on.22:57
eyastaifourits on c:22:57
eyastaifoursorry, its on c:\ub22:57
eyastaifourbut i dont have a terminal open.. just a window with the title "install", some pretty graphics, and a progress bar for "copying files"22:57
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: We need the exact path including filename so that we can configure grub to use it.22:57
eyastaifourok, the ISO's path is: C:\newub\ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso22:58
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dr_willismay be a good idea to move it to C:\ and give it a shorter name. ;) but its been a whild since ive set up grub2 to boot a iso.23:02
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: What is the output of "ls -l /host/newub/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso"?23:04
The_MatrixCan someone help me I have xubuntu and I tried to play a dvd and when I do this message comes up "Could not read DVD. This may be because the DVD is encrypted and a DVD decryption library is not installed."23:05
eyastaifourJordan_U: i dont have terminal access yet.. the machine ended the wubi part, restarted, copied stuff23:05
eyastaifourand i just loaded now. I have grabm with two options (#2 is recovery mode). i ll go for #123:05
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: OK. I'll be away for a few minutes, but I will be back.23:05
dr_willis!dvd23:06
ubottuUbuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:06
eyastaifourJordan_U: cool.. i just made it to the logon page, and it seems that im in  (slow machine)23:06
dr_willisThe_Matrix:  theres some package/script you install then run - to get the dvd stuff enabled. (been ages since ive used it)23:06
The_Matrixdr_willis how do I install them?23:07
rephy222having issues with my network manager23:08
rephy222for some reason it connects23:08
rephy222but fails to associate the key that i entered23:08
dr_willisThe_Matrix:  the url the bot gave.... has details23:09
rephy222and for some reason i have to iwconfig wlan0 key xxxxxxx for the internet to work correctly23:09
eyastaifourmouse is not acting nice at all. i can move it, but the display wont refresh . i also cant click23:09
eyastaifourthis is trackpad. i also tried a USB mouse23:10
eyastaifouris there a shortcut i can press to open a terminal ?23:10
rephy222anyone have any ideas.... could i just reinstall the network manager23:10
rephy222ctrl alt t23:10
rephy222for terminal23:10
eyastaifourthanks. not working with me.. display is very strange, everything is overlayed and nothing refreshes23:11
eyastaifouri ll boot in recovery mode23:11
rephy222u cant opena terminal with control alt t?23:13
eyastaifourrephy222: i dont know.. its a display issue - something flashed when i did ctrl alt T, but no terminal appeared23:14
rephy222eyastaifour:  is it a fresh install of ubuntu or something23:15
eyastaifourfresh install, on the oldest hardware you could imagine. a laptop  i bought in 05 i guess23:15
eyastaifourbut things are cool now in failsafeX mode :)23:15
rephy222eyastaifour:  what version23:15
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: You might want to go with Xubuntu or Lubuntu then.23:16
rephy222anyone know what the package that deals with network connections is23:17
rephy222the wireless network manager or something23:17
morsnowskirephy222, whats the error23:17
eyastaifourJordan_U: i can access /host/newub - and I see the ISO there23:18
adaminsullHi23:18
eyastaifourrephy222: 10.04-123:18
adaminsullWhy do i get23:18
eyastaifourJordan_U: cant wait to download yet another ISO file.. i ll give this a shot23:18
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: OK, just be aware that you'll probably have the same graphics problems after installing Ubuntu normally as well.23:18
adaminsullTaskel: aptitude failed 10023:18
eyastaifourJordan_U: but i ll be able to use FailsafeX as well, correct ?23:19
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Yes.23:19
eyastaifourawesome. so i have my terminal, and i can browse to the ISO23:19
adaminsull??23:20
rephy222??23:20
rephy222anyone23:20
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Oh, one thing I should have asked much earlier. How much RAM do you have?23:20
eyastaifourI have 1.5 I think23:20
rephy222my net keeps connecting and dissconnecting for some reason23:20
michealPWIs there an Ubuntu package equiv. to Fedora's kernel-modules-extra package? Something that provides xpad.ko is what I'm after.23:21
dr_willis!find xpad.ko23:21
ubottuFile xpad.ko found in linux-image-3.5.0-14-lowlatency, linux-image-extra-3.5.0-14-generic23:21
dr_willisseems to be in the generic kernel   package.23:21
michealPWHrmm!23:21
L3mcerephy222: network-manager-gnome I would expect... but that sounds more like a driver/device issue.23:22
dr_willis/lib/modules/3.5.0-10-generic/kernel/drivers/input/joystick/xpad.ko23:22
eyastaifourJordan_U: do i go about booting from the ISO now?23:22
dr_willisseems its in all my kernels here.23:22
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: I think that will be enough, but I'm not sure. To install Ubuntu from the same drive that you'er booted from the way we are requires first copying the entire iso into RAM, meaning that you'll effectively have 700 MiB less RAM available than you normally would.23:22
michealPWSo can I just do "insmod xpad.ko", dr_willis?23:22
dr_willismichealPW:  try it and see. ;) id think so23:22
michealPWHrmm! Thx mate, will try now :)23:22
dr_willismichealPW:  try a locate xpad.ko23:22
eyastaifourJordan_U: I see.. let's give it a shot! so, is it menuentries, or unetbootin now ?23:22
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Yes. Just for reference, normal iso loop booting can be done easily by following http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F but we're going to need to change the kernel parameters so we'll need to do something slightly more.23:24
michealPWFiddle sticks!23:24
Mike-Linux-NLi do have a small problem...23:24
michealPWI got an error "Error inserting "/path/to/xpad.ko": -1 Unknown symbol in module23:24
michealPW:(23:24
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: First mount the iso file so that we can copy its loopback.cfg: "sudo mount /host/newub/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso -o loop /mnt/".23:25
goblinouhello. which is the channel for ubuntu help, please?23:25
Mike-Linux-NLi installed Ubuntu 12.10, removed Empathy, and installed pidgin instead. Now i dont have that envelope icon in the unity panel... how to geti t back23:25
michealPWMaybe it's a dependency23:25
Jordan_Ugoblinou: This is it :)23:25
michealPWLike, this module needs another module inserted first. Interesting!23:25
michealPWWell, thx for the tips, got me close now! :)23:25
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goblinougreat. who will have the great pleasure of helping me?23:25
trismMike-Linux-NL: it will hide itself when there are not any apps using it, and since pidgin isn't ported to the new API yet, it won't be there23:25
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dr_willismichealPW:  what was the exact command line you used?23:26
Jordan_Ugoblinou: Just ask your question, if anyone knows the answer they'll answer (and if nobody does, then nobody will answer).23:26
dr_willis sudo modprobe xpad23:26
dr_willisworked here23:26
Mike-Linux-NLi installed Ubuntu 12.10, removed Empathy, and installed pidgin instead. Now i dont have that envelope icon in the unity panel... how do i get it back? wich package do i need to install?23:26
goblinouok here it goes23:26
goblinouhow do i adjust visual effects in ubuntu 12.1?23:27
eyastaifouris there a edfault root password for 12.04 ?23:27
dr_willisgoblinou:  which ones? the ccsm tool is the main compiz config tool.. and it can be.. well.. scary. ;)23:27
michealPWOh I used sudo insmod /lib/modules/etc/kernel/drivers/input/joystick/xpad.ko23:27
Jordan_U!ccsm | goblinou23:27
ubottugoblinou: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz23:27
michealPWhaha I should use modprobe instead ?23:27
michealPW*facepalm* I'm such a newbie hehe23:27
The_MatrixLol23:27
dr_willismichealPW:  over thought it a little bit... ;P23:27
Jordan_U!root | eyastaifour23:27
ubottueyastaifour: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo23:27
The_MatrixCan someone help me I have xubuntu and I tried to play a dvd and when I do this message comes up "Could not read DVD. This may be because the DVD is encrypted and a DVD decryption library is not installed."23:28
rodrigograca31Hi :)23:28
Gaming4JChi :)23:28
Gaming4JCDoes anyone know of a GUI to check voltage being used on Linux?23:28
rodrigograca31i need some help :)23:28
dr_willisThe_Matrix:  and you looked at that dvd playback wiki url? (not been there in ages, it maybe out of date)23:28
The_Matrixyea23:28
The_Matrixits confusing lol23:28
eyastaifourJordan_U:  if i run commands individually to browse to my ISO, it works fine. when i try with Sudo, it doesnt(i cant even use tab completion)23:28
rodrigograca31i am trying to compile c++  .....23:29
Gaming4JC!ask | rodrigograca3123:29
ubotturodrigograca31: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:29
michealPWWeird23:29
Mike-Linux-NLi installed Ubuntu 12.10, removed Empathy, and installed pidgin instead. Now i dont have that envelope icon in the unity panel... how do i get it back? wich package do i need to install?23:29
Mike-Linux-NLindicator-messages IS installed however23:29
michealPWEven when I give modprobe the exact path to the xpad.ko file it still says FATAL: Module no found.23:29
michealPW:(23:29
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: It's expected that tab completion won't work, and that has to do with mount and bash_completion rather than sudo. If you entered in the exact command I gave you and recieved an error message then you probably gave me the wrong path. It's important that you get paths right, one character off is still wrong.23:30
dr_willisThe_Matrix:  it is? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs seems rather clear23:30
submanAnyone have a good how-to for installing a software raid on an existing ubuntu 12.04 server?23:30
trismMike-Linux-NL: it will hide itself when there are not any apps using it, and since pidgin isn't ported to the new API yet, it won't be there (repost)23:30
eyastaifouri gave the right path. i understand.23:30
dr_willis2 lines to cut/paste into the terminal...23:30
The_Matrixill try to read through it again dr_willis lol23:30
eyastaifourim now in as root, and i mounted the iso to /mnt23:30
michealPWGot it haha I suck23:30
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: What do you mean by "in as root"?23:31
eyastaifourroot@ubuntu:23:31
dr_willisThe_Matrix:  they stand out in the 'grey this is a command' type formating.23:31
The_Matrixoh ok :)23:31
wilee-nileeThe_Matrix, Generally adding the restricted-extras and libdvdread4 should do it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Installing_libdvdcss23:31
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: You do not want or need to be logged in as root. "exit" to get out of the root shell and use sudo for individual commands that need root privileges.23:31
The_MatrixThanks alot wilee-nilee :D23:32
eyastaifourJordan_U: that's for best practices indeed.. but for the sake of practicality, would it work ? im exiting as we speak23:32
goblinouubottu: gee, i installed that software but i don't see any additional appearance settings23:32
ubottugoblinou: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:32
ofcanwhat might be the reason if I can't 'cd' into a directory? I am in sudo group btw...23:32
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: It would work, but it doesn't help you in any way and as you said is bad practice.23:32
michealPWSweet!23:33
goblinouoh, anyone else was helping me?23:33
dr_willisofcan:  a 'directory' has to be executable for one to 'cd' into it.. i belive.23:33
goblinouhow do i adjust visual effects in ubuntu 12.1?23:33
dr_willisgoblinou:  after installing the ccsm package you run the ccsm tool... and be carefull with it.23:33
goblinouplease.23:33
eyastaifourJordan_U: the ISO is now mounted23:33
goblinouccsm package, right, thanks23:34
michealPW"[21818.503721] input: Microsoft X-Box pad v2 (US) as /devices/..." yay! :)23:34
michealPWthx, dr_willis :)23:34
dr_willisthe packagte name was given earlier.. its not 'ccsm;23:34
goblinouhahaha what do you mean be careful?23:34
dr_willisthe binary IS called ccsm23:34
dr_willis!find ccsm23:34
ubottuFile ccsm found in app-install-data, community-themes, compizconfig-settings-manager, elementary-icon-theme, gnome-colors-common, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon-redux, humanity-icon-theme, language-pack-gnome-ar, language-pack-gnome-ar-base, language-pack-gnome-as (and 83 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ccsm&mode=&suite=quantal&arch=any23:34
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: OK. "cp /mnt/boot/grub/loopback.cfg ~/Desktop/" That should copy the iso's loopback.cfg to your Desktop.23:34
ofcandr_willis: but I can navigate manually into it, just can't via .sh file... than I have somehow wrote the .sh wrong, right?23:35
dupondjeI added set tabstop=4 to my .vimrc, but still tab doesn't give me 4 space chars :(23:35
dr_willisofcan:  perhaps.. or spaces in the dir name..23:35
dupondjeany idea's what i'm missing?23:35
eyastaifourJordan_U: yes, copied23:35
trismdupondje: :set expandtab23:36
dr_willisgoblinou:  there are some other 'tweaking' tools out to do some unity and compiz setting tweaks that  are safer.23:36
ofcandr_willis: this is my code & error; any syntax code or like that you see? > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13204158/unicorn-init-sh-cannot-find-app-root-on-capistrano-cold-deploy/13204193#1320419323:36
ewookYo. How do one tweak the default icons in the unity bar for a 'new' user?23:36
goblinouright, i see. where is the setting for the screen saver and turning monitor off? and avoiding having to enter the password when i shake it off.23:36
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Jordan_Ueyastaifour: OK, now we need to edit the file a little. To do that we need to be sure about the exact path to the iso, so please run "ls -l /host/newub/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso" and post the output.23:36
dupondjetrism: set tabstop=4 set shiftwidth=4 set expandtab set noeol set binary23:36
dupondjehave this now, but still :(23:37
trismdupondje: so put it in ~/.vimrc23:37
wilee-nileegoblinou, If you mess with the compizconfig manager install the fusion icon and have a launcher for it on the desktop, ask if needed to do this. This will restart compiz when you adjust it, you will want it.23:37
eyastaifourJordan_U: im on another machine :) i confirm it is there. I have used tab completion.23:37
goblinouok, great. another question, if i may...23:38
goblinouright, i see. where is the setting for the screen saver and turning monitor off? and avoiding having to enter the password when i shake it off.23:38
dupondjetrism: yep its there :)23:38
DarkAceZjust out of curiosity, is there a command to restart processes?23:38
eyastaifourJordan_U: -rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 729067520 Nov 2 18:29 /host/newub/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso23:38
goblinoudr_willis or wilee-nilee?23:38
dr_willisofcan:  only thing i can guess at is the quoteing of the command is keeping $home from getting expanded.. perhaps...23:39
ewookDarkAceZ: yes. service [theservice] restart23:39
DarkAceZservice?23:39
dr_willisofcan:  seen that happen in other cases. :)23:39
ewookDarkAceZ: you need to append sudo first of course.23:39
[snake]ewook processes not services23:39
DarkAceZ^23:40
DarkAceZwhat I was thinking loo23:40
DarkAceZl23:40
ewook[snake]: doh.23:40
ewookDarkAceZ: sorry :p23:40
DarkAceZlol23:40
ewookDarkAceZ: that depends on the process what HUP-call it handles.23:40
dr_willisgoblinou:  system settings has a brightness and lock   app....23:40
ofcandr_willis: so just remove "" and that's it? :)23:40
DarkAceZnautilus23:40
ofcandr_willis: and say > run "$CMD" ?23:40
dr_willisofcan:  test it with using your /home/yourusername/ perhaps ?23:41
dupondjetrism: its something strange really :(23:41
dr_willisofcan:  i alwyas get nesting messed up. :) or else the thing may be calling sh when you mean to call bash.. so the variable is not set.. (seen that happen also)23:41
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: OK, add this to the top of the file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1327857/23:41
dr_willisofcan:  have it echo the exact command and parts of the command perhaps? as a debugging trick.23:42
goblinouoh, dr_willis, silly i didn see that, i've been in the Windows cave for to long. anyway, thanks, and quoting a phrase from Frank Zappa's Joe's Garage: Gee, now I can go home! thanks, bye, best wishes..23:42
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Actually, that might conflict with wubi, lets name the loop device something else.23:42
eyastaifourso, change the last line to root=(looploop)23:43
eyastaifour?23:43
trismdupondje: might depend on the file you are editing, I have that all set up but I still get tabs when editing say, Makefiles. otherwise I have no idea23:43
Gaming4JCTo answer my own question... http://gabenell.blogspot.com/2010/06/setting-up-collectd-collection3-on.html  <-- monitors voltages with pretty Graphs.23:43
Gaming4JCThanks ^_^23:43
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Add this instead: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1327860/23:43
eyastaifourto which loopback.cfg ? the one i copied to the desktop ?23:43
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Yes.23:44
linkandzeldaanyone know why my apple magic mouse is no longer connecting to my ubuntu?23:44
linkandzeldaits very annoying, how crap apple products are23:44
dr_willislinkandzelda:  perhaps they want to sell you a $30 adaptor to use it....23:44
[snake]Lol23:44
linkandzeldathat would be great, but this mouse has no adapter possible lol23:44
linkandzeldait was working23:44
linkandzeldathen i rebooted23:44
eyastaifourJordan_U: you want me to addd these before any "menuentry" ? at the top of the file directly ?23:45
linkandzeldanot it refuses to connect23:45
ofcandr_willis: ok, will try to figure out... but definetly some syntax thing, you think, right? :)23:45
FloodBot1linkandzelda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:45
[snake]Maybe the battery died :O23:45
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Correct.23:45
dr_willisofcan:  always seems to be somting trivial when its hard to find.. ;)23:45
linkandzeldait flashes, just refuses to be connectable23:45
rephy222L3mce: dont think its a driver issue cause its been working fine until i tried installing a dnsproxy23:46
eyastaifourJordan_U: and in the Iso_path, there's no mentioning of /host/newub, just /newub directly23:46
[snake]linkandzelda perhaps you changed some bios options. If not then apple did it wrong maybe23:47
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Correct. /host/ is the mountpoint, the path on the actual filesystem starts with /newub/.23:47
eyastaifourJordan_U: ok, cool. i have entered the text23:48
minwinpcHello23:48
rodrigograca31so, how i was saying i am trying to compile c++23:48
rodrigograca31here is my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327874/23:48
Troy^rodrigograca31: you best bet would be a c++ channel23:49
[snake]Ditto23:49
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Now we need to add the "toram" kernel parameter to the menu entries. We're going to be using the "Try Ubuntu without installing" entry, but lets modify both it and the "Install Ubuntu" entries (but not the "Check disc for defects" or "Test memory" options).23:49
frxstremrodrigograca31: Don't use gcc to compile, because that won't work for C++ programs (it's C only). Use g++ instead, which is the C++ version of GCC.23:50
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: To add the "toram" kernel parameter, simply add the word "toram" between "splash" and "--" near the end of the line starting with "linux".23:50
[snake]Oh lol i didnt even notice becsuse I write C so it looked normal23:51
eyastaifourJordan_U: for both menu entries (try and install)23:51
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Yes.23:51
eyastaifourshould I leave a space bewteeen "toram" and the "--"23:51
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Yes.23:51
eyastaifourok, done23:52
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: When you're done with that, please pastebin the new contents of the file and I'll confirm that it all looks correct.23:52
rodrigograca31Troy^: ok :)23:52
eyastaifourJordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1327885/23:53
rodrigograca31frxstrem: humm i did not knowed that23:55
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: You followed my directions correctly, but to I realized that "search --set --file $iso_path" should actually be "search --set=root --file $iso_path" so please change that and we're done modifying the file.23:57
melkorCheese will not record video. Any suggestions?23:57
rodrigograca31frxstrem: Thanks!23:58
frxstremrodrigograca31: no problem :)23:59
rodrigograca31frxstrem: g++ worked :)23:59
eyastaifourJordan_U: alright :) all set http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1327892/23:59
Jordan_Ueyastaifour: Great, now save the file and run "sudo cp ~/Desktop/loopback.cfg /boot/grub/custom.cfg".23:59

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