[00:00] <Razer_> Windows 7 has something called, "Stereo Mix" which allows recording of sound output (before speakers). Does Ubuntu have an equivalent to this?
[00:05] <raj> how can I update a package?
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> raj, Beyond what is in the repo?
[00:05] <raj> no, to the latest repo version
[00:05] <raj> my current node.js version is 0.5.5
[00:05] <raj> I want the latest 0.8.x
[00:06] <[twisti]> ok, yeah, theres definitely something wrong with this package, its just a server module that responds via http, this should not require x11 and sound drivers to be installed
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> raj, is this not offered in the release you are running, and are you sure this version is in the repo?
[00:06] <[twisti]> so is there any way i can get help with that or report a bug or something ? or am i just screwed and doomed to skip the package and do a manual install ?
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> raj,If it is the repo a standard update would be all you need.
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> is in*
[00:07] <raj> how do you do that?
[00:07] <raj> oh no, I don't have the package manger version
[00:07] <raj> i just looked it up in synaptic
[00:07] <raj> that is ollllddddd!
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> raj, In the terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:08] <Razer_> Windows 7 has something called, "Stereo Mix" which allows recording of sound output (before speakers). Does Ubuntu have an equivalent to this? How can I record sound output?
[00:09] <jrib> [twisti]: what are you actually doing exactly?
[00:09] <raj> wilee-nilee, I probably don't have the package manager version
[00:09] <raj> since mine is even newer
[00:09] <raj> nm
[00:09] <[twisti]> jrib: i wrote "sudo apt-get install jenkins"
[00:10] <[twisti]> which i expected to result in the download and installation of jenkins, not x11 and pulse
[00:10] <mmgc84> Razer_, audacity is an option! very good if you ask for my opinion
[00:10] <[twisti]> but i aborted when i saw the page filling list
[00:10] <jrib> [twisti]: try without installing recommends
[00:10] <cowsquad> hey friends, Is anybody experiencing white menus when you guys right click on the desktop, or on the little settings icon on the right top corner?
[00:10] <Razer_> mmgc84: I have Audacity, but I can only record microphone input. I'm trying to figure out how to record the sound output, similar to "Stereo Mix" in Windows 7.
[00:10] <[twisti]> oh, recommends is another page, thats just the requireds
[00:11] <jrib> [twisti]: what?
[00:11] <[twisti]> suggested is a 2nd page of stuff
[00:11] <blackshirt> you can disable option to apt to not install recommended packages
[00:11] <[twisti]> or am i missunderstanding you ?
[00:11] <kostkon> Razer_, you need to install pavucontrol
[00:12] <jrib> [twisti]: apt-get will install recommended packages by default, try passing --no-install-recommends (or whatever the option is; see apt-get's man page)
[00:12] <kostkon> Razer_, then start recording in audacity, then open pavucontrol and you should see audacity listed in the recording tab. select the monitor of your soundcard as the source device
[00:12] <[twisti]> oh, 1 sec
[00:12] <[twisti]> still 50 different things
[00:12] <jrib> [twisti]: and?
[00:12] <Razer_> kostkon: okay, will do. Thanks for the help. :)
[00:12] <kostkon> Razer_, np
[00:13] <[twisti]> that seems a lot for something that usually comes as a single file
[00:13] <dr_willis> !info jenkins-cli
[00:13] <[twisti]> and i dont see why i would install something like x11-commons
[00:13] <jrib> [twisti]: well the dependencies look like a bunch of java packages
[00:13] <cowsquad> anybody?
[00:13] <blackshirt> sure
[00:13] <jrib> [twisti]: is x11-common still being installed when you pass --no-install-recommends?
[00:13] <dr_willis> pulling in some sort of gui sounds like.
[00:13] <[twisti]> yes
[00:14] <blackshirt> !ask | cowsquads
[00:14] <[twisti]> as well as when i use dr_willis' suggestion with -cli
[00:14] <blackshirt> !ask | cowsquad
[00:15] <dr_willis> im just reading up on it at   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/jenkins
[00:15] <basketballstar> sync either ubuntu 1 or dropbox to flashdrive for both windows and linux
[00:16] <cowsquad> I did  but no one answered it. I have a white menus on my top right corner panel and on the right click with the mouse. I dont know what happend, they were fine.
[00:16] <blackshirt> hemm, unity 12.04 cowsquad ?
[00:16] <cowsquad> unity 12.10
[00:19] <jrib> [twisti]: I guess you'd have to trace the dependencies yourself to realize why it's being pulled in, but I don't see what's the big deal about installing x11-common
[00:19] <blackshirt> cowsquad, i don't know what it is.. I don't have play with unity anymore
[00:19] <ls612> Hi. I'm intending to dual-boot win8 and Ubuntu 12.10, and I'd like to have my disk encrypted. My question though is first would this be possible and second if it is which encryption (BitLocker or the Ubuntu setup encryption) should I use?
[00:19] <cowsquad> what do you have blackshirt?
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> basketballstar, with a quick google I see this a portable dropbox for a usb. http://www.petenetlive.com/KB/Article/0000409.htm
[00:20] <blackshirt> cowsquad, xfce ....
[00:20] <cowsquad> xfce, is it better that unity?
[00:21] <[twisti]> jrib: im uneasy about something installing things that it clearly doesnt need, like x11 and sound drivers for a server module that runs automated builds
[00:21] <dr_willis> try the differnt desktops and decide for your self which one you like.
[00:21] <[twisti]> its not the end of the world, i just dont like it, because its so nonsensical
[00:21] <blackshirt> cowsquad, for me yes
[00:22] <jrib> [twisti]: it's likely just some capability of the software you don't use/don't know about that requires it
[00:22] <jrib> [twisti]: it could also just be something that the jre packages require for whatever reason.  I don't know
[00:22] <cowsquad> blackshirt, so that is xubuntu right?
[00:23] <jrib> [twisti]: is it pulling in the jre?
[00:23] <[twisti]> yes, and for some reason its pulling in BOTH (normal and headless)
[00:23] <Razer_> kostkon: How would I go back to recording from the microphone?
[00:24] <blackshirt> cowsquad, exactly, not full xubuntu system, i build it from scratch
[00:24] <kostkon> Razer_, just change the device from monitor to your mic for example, or any other input you want that is listed in the drop down menu.
[00:25] <jrib> [twisti]: do you already have headless installed?
[00:25] <kostkon> Razer_, if you leave the recording source to monitor pulseaudio will remember your choice the next time you open audacity, so yeah, if you want to change it back, do it before closing audacity.
[00:26] <[twisti]> jrib: yes, but jre7, not 6
[00:26] <cowsquad> blackshirt, How do I extend a free space on my hard drive using disk utility?
[00:26] <[twisti]> of course, i would WANT it to run on 7 anyways
[00:26] <blackshirt> cowsquad, thats a different topic ... Maybe better using gparted
[00:26] <willdabeast> Does anyone have some experience with 'Deepin'? I am wondering whether to switch to that as opposed to synaptic and ubuntu software center.
[00:27] <cowsquad> okay, thank you blackshirt
[00:27] <Razer_> kostkon: so, while recording with Audacity, I have to change it to "Monitor of...", and then it will automatically switch to recording output, and I change it back to the other item in the dropdown to make it record microphone again?
[00:27] <cowsquad> blackshirt, im about to try xubuntu desktop out :)
[00:28] <kostkon> Razer_, yes, it works in real time, on-the-fly, don't worry, you can change devices any time you want during a recording
[00:28] <blackshirt> cowsquad, good lucks guys
[00:28] <Razer_> kostkon: Okay, well, it's not recording mic anymore at all, even if I change it to the option that isn't "Monitor of..."
[00:28] <cowsquad> thank you :)
[00:29] <kostkon> Razer_, hmmm
[00:29] <jrib> [twisti]: libjnr-posix-java seems to pull in x11-common, follow that if you want
[00:29] <[twisti]> not sure how you mean that
[00:29] <[twisti]> 'follow that' ?
[00:29] <willdabeast> Does anyone have some experience with 'Deepin'? I am wondering whether to switch to that as opposed to synaptic and ubuntu software center.
[00:29] <Razer_> kostkon: the only options are, "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo" and "Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
[00:29] <jrib> [twisti]: you can follow the dependency chain if you are still not sure why libjnr-posix-java should depend on x11-common
[00:29] <blackshirt> willdabeast, deepin ?
[00:30] <[twisti]> oh
[00:30] <[twisti]> ill have to give it some thought
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: Deepin seems to be it'sown distro
[00:30] <willdabeast> actionparsnip is that right?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: http://www.linuxdeepin.com/   yes
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> there is a deepin software center for ubuntu
[00:30] <kostkon> Razer_, hmm. for a start, check the volume level of your mic
[00:30] <blackshirt> cowsquad, if you have experienced with apt system, you can switch your desktp env easily
[00:31] <jrib> [twisti]: actually it's probably just default-jre when that gets pulled in
[00:31] <test359> hi
[00:31] <willdabeast> actionparsnip well there's also a deepin software center, that's why I asked, some people seem to prefer it.
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: try it is all I can suggest, it won't be supported here
[00:31] <jrib> [twisti]: if you can satisfy the dependencies regarding the jre beforehand and not let apt try to pick a jre for you, you might be able to avoid x11-common
[00:31] <kostkon> Razer_, you can do it in pavucontrol, just select the input devices tab
[00:31] <Razer_> kostkon: Ahh, I found it. In the Input Devices tab, the Microphone was muted.
[00:31] <kostkon> Razer_, :P
[00:31] <[twisti]> how would i do that ?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: could ask in #linuxdeepin
[00:32] <[twisti]> id rather everything that wants java use 7 anyways
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, I would use the cli and apt-fast.
[00:32] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, alright thanks.
[00:32] <jrib> [twisti]: well do you have openjdk-7-jre-headless installed?
[00:32] <ekaj> Is the Xubuntu desktop or Ubuntu LXDE desktop lighter?
[00:32] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee, for what?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: +1 for apt-fast :)
[00:32] <xx> help me fix my wireless please
[00:32] <[twisti]> yes
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ekaj: Lubuntu is slightly lighter
[00:33] <ekaj> Than both of those?
[00:33] <blackshirt> wilee-nilee, apt-fast was not reliable way event it was more faster than standar way
[00:33] <blackshirt> Event
[00:33] <blackshirt> Even
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, For getting apps, it is faster, but if your looking for a gui you can try deepin.
[00:33] <xx> fix my wireless please?
[00:33] <hot_wheelz> Hi guys
[00:33] <willdabeast> wilee-nilee ah alright thanks
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> blackshirt, apt=fast is reliable here.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> xx: why not give some details rather than repeat the same pointless phrase
[00:34] <ekaj> ActionParsnip: Lubuntu is lighter than LXDE and Xubuntu?
[00:34] <xx> ActionParsnip, okay, well my laptop isnt detecting my wireless
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> ekaj: Lubuntu uses LXDE
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> xx: what wifi chip do you use?
[00:34] <blackshirt> wilee-nilee, i think apt-was not handle partial install correctly
[00:35] <blackshirt> apt-fast was not
[00:35] <ekaj> Okay, I was asking because it has a Lubuntu minimal and an Ubuntu LXDE desktop choice
[00:35] <willdabeast> Another problem, there's a program I am uninstalling through ubuntu software center, and it seems to be stuck "applying changes" I've restarted the software center, no changes, any workaround?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> blackshirt, faster not sure really, but I like that it downloads the code, I never do partial installs, so I'm not sure there.
[00:35] <xx> ActionParsnip,  how can i know\?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> ekaj: you can install lxde only if you want. If you want super light just install openbox and use it on it's own (no desktop) for absolute lightness :)
[00:36] <ekaj> I was wanting a lightweight host to run VMs =p I was going to try the Ubuntu-server approach
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> xx: sudo lshw -C network     what is the product line for the wifi?
[00:36] <ekaj> Thanks for your help though
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> ekaj: install server and you can manage the VMs using the VIC on another system
[00:37] <wabash> Has anyone here put XFCE on ubuntu?  How did it go, and are there any things I should watch out for?
[00:37] <[twisti]> jrib: was there a follow-up coming for that ?
[00:37] <linuxuz3r> anyone knows a good it channel
[00:37] <linuxuz3r> it for info tech
[00:37] <bubblehouse> hello
[00:37] <xx> ActionParsnip,  where can i copy the response for u ?
[00:37] <bubblehouse> I am trying to install lubuntu on hp e-Vectra
[00:37] <linuxuz3r> hi bubblehouse
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> wabash: works well :)
[00:38] <bubblehouse> cannot get past boot: as I don't know if there is a specific parameter I need
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> xx: its one line, just write it here
[00:38] <bubblehouse> I tried generic IDE settings...
[00:38] <wabash> ActionParsnip: Nice! I figure you might be someone who did not like Gnome 3 all that much?
[00:38] <bubblehouse> I cannot find a previous experience online thus far.. any nelp?
[00:38] <xx>   *-network
[00:38] <xx>        description: Wireless interface
[00:38] <xx>        product: Broadcom Corporation
[00:38] <xx>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[00:38] <xx>        physical id: 0
[00:38] <FloodBot1> xx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:38] <jrib> [twisti]: no, just curious.  I'm not interested in tracing the dependencies involved with those jre packages.  But that's likely where all of those dependencies are coming from
[00:38] <xx>        bus info: pci@0000:04:00.0
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> (00:36:13) ActionParsnip: xx: sudo lshw -C network     what is the product line for the wifi?      sound familiar?
[00:39] <bubblehouse> no ideas? P3 processor
[00:39] <[twisti]> jrib: oh, i thought there was some easy way to make jre7 my default jre like you said
[00:39] <ControllerSYR> hello when i open this sorce in ubuntu 12.04 cpwindow.cc: In constructor ‘CPWindow::CPWindow()’: cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: cannot call constructor ‘CPWindow::CWindow’ directly [-fpermissive] cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: for a function-style cast, remove the redundant ‘::CWindow’
[00:39] <wabash> ActionParsnip: ?
[00:39] <ControllerSYR> the program is lxrad
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> bubblehouse: you may want to use Precise so you can use Lubuntu or Xubuntu to avoid the PAE kernel
[00:40] <jrib> !multijava | [twisti]
[00:40] <bubblehouse> ah.. I will look for that
[00:40] <xx> ActionParsnip,   product: NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
[00:40] <xx>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[00:40] <ControllerSYR> this is messege agin : cpwindow.cc: In constructor ‘CPWindow::CPWindow()’: cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: cannot call constructor ‘CPWindow::CWindow’ directly [-fpermissive] cpwindow.cc:38:20: error: for a function-style cast, remove the redundant ‘::CWindow’
[00:40] <bubblehouse> burn another CD!
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> xx: thats the wired connection. Ethernet is a wired technology
[00:40] <bubblehouse> I'll let you know how it goes ActionParsnip. Thanks
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> xx: remember when I said the line above ^
[00:41] <xx> ActionParsnip,    description: Ethernet interface
[00:41] <xx>        product: NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
[00:41] <xx>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[00:41] <xx> oops
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> xx: " what is the product line for the wifi? "    remember that?
[00:41] <xx> i keep pasting the wrong thing :/
[00:41]  * wilee-nilee hopes all in the US will vote on tuesday
[00:41] <[twisti]> ah, thanks jrib, didnt seem to work for jenkins, maybe its set specifically to jre6
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> xx: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[00:41] <xx> ActionParsnip,        product: Broadcom Corporation
[00:42] <jrib> [twisti]: it won't affect anything regarding dependencies (afaik), it will just make sure various symlinks point to the right version.  So java -> java7 for example
[00:42] <xx> ActionParsnip,  the output of lsb_release -sc : lucid as in lucid lynx
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | xx
[00:42] <[twisti]> ah, yeah, i guess it already did that for me before that
[00:42] <xx> ty ActionParsnip
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> xx: you may want to clean install with Precise. Lucid desktop is EOL in April next year
[00:43] <xx> eol?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> xx: dead, no support and no updates
[00:43] <xx> really?! i thought it was the stable version of ubuntu. what is Precise?
[00:43] <willdabeast> can anyone help me? I was installing this program and it has been stuck there for about 30 minutes now, not a big program. Any workaround?
[00:43] <ControllerSYR> how i know about my linux in terminal ( 64 or 32 )
[00:44] <kostkon> ControllerSYR, uname -r
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> xx: Quantal is the current stable release, Precise is also stable and supported until 2017
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> xx: Precise is Ubuntu 12.04
[00:45] <ControllerSYR> it did not tell me what i need
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> ControllerSYR: uname -m
[00:45] <ControllerSYR> i need to know if my linux 64 or 32
[00:45] <kostkon> ControllerSYR, if it says generic it's 32bit otherwise it's 64
[00:45] <ControllerSYR> ok
[00:46] <xx> what is precise like compared to lucid?
[00:47] <k1l_> xx: 2 years newer?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> xx: it uses Unity as a replacement for Gnome-panel but it can be installed
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> xx: it has later versions of the packages that make up the OS
[00:47] <ControllerSYR> thanks
[00:48] <juany> ciao
[00:48] <juany> !list
[00:49] <paolons> hi
[00:49] <alexfpms> kostkon, ??? generic ?
[00:49] <kostkon> alexfpms, ??
[00:50] <alexfpms> kostkon, i have 64bit and uname -r gives me: 3.5.0-17-generic
[00:50] <kostkon> alexfpms, you have 64bit cpu but the 32bit version of ubuntu
[00:50] <alexfpms> kostkon, but uname -m gives: x86_64
[00:50] <alexfpms> kostkon, no
[00:50] <kostkon> alexfpms, right
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> alexfpms: -r   just gives the release, there are 32bit and 64bit versions of each release
[00:52] <alexfpms> kostkon,
[00:52] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, exactly
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> alexfpms: -m   shows the machine which is the arch of the kernel :)
[00:52] <wabash> ActionParsnip: Do you ever have problems with xfce where say, you can't move a window with alt-F7 down or to the right?
[00:53] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, ok unama -a to show all the info
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> wabash: not when I used it, I use LXDE now
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> alexfpms: true but if you want specific bits you can add switches :)
[00:53] <Arizona_bay> test
[00:54] <xx> okay
[00:54] <wabash> ActionParsnip: How do you like that? Is it stripped down a bit compared to XFCE?
[00:54] <xx> can i instal the updated vversion of ubuntu with installing updates?
[00:54] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, ok what do uname -p ?
[00:54] <hot_wheelz> in 12.10 anyone had sound then lost it?
[00:54] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, it gives processor
[00:54] <xx> i have ubuntu on dual boot and im scared some files will be lost.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> xx: you can upgrade from Lucid to Precise as you are upgrading to the next LTS
[00:55] <k1l_> xx: yes. you can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 through the LTS upgrade
[00:55] <xx> LTS?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> xx: Long term support
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> xx, Back it up before upgrading, personally I would clone it to be safe.
[00:56] <xx> wilee-nilee,  what are the risk that some of my files would be destroyed?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> hot_wheelz: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds then try sound
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> xx: you will have backups if your data is important
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> xx, It is not the risk here is it can you afford to have anything bad happen.
[00:57] <wabash> ActionParsnip: Can you do most nifty things in LDXE that you can with XFCE?
[00:57] <xx> not really wilee-nilee
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> wabash: what do you need?
[00:58] <xx> i suppose then ill upgrade some other time
[00:58] <xx> i just really need to fix my wireless quickly
[00:58] <wabash> ActionParsnip: Well, I liked gnome 2.x. It worked really well for me for programming. Gnome 3 does not; it gets in my way I feel. So I'm looking for what's closest to Gnome3: XFCE or LXDE. I use XFCE on Fedora now.  It's a bit clunky sometimes.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> xx: Is the system a laptop?
[00:58] <xx> yes aCTION
[00:58] <xx> ActionParsnip, *
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> wabash: xfce is probably closer
[00:59] <wabash> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks.
[00:59] <wabash> Anyone here know if Gnome3 with tweaks comes very close to Gnome 2?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> xx: then use a wired connection and get updates as well as install the drivers there, broadcom are the easiest to install
[00:59] <bubblehouse> hello: ok, attempting to boot first install on hp e-Vectra, now goes to boot: prompt without doing anything.  Attempted "install" and says "could not find kernel image: install
[01:00] <xx> !broadcom
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> bubblehouse: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[01:01] <bubblehouse> ActionParsnip: just suddenly started loading right now... was at boot: prompt and then just started on its own
[01:01] <bubblehouse> at splash screen now.
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> xx: like I said, your release has 6 months of life left in it. After then you will get no updates and no support anywhere
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> bubblehouse: what video chip do you use?
[01:02] <xx> action what about one one osiric whatever that distro was called?
[01:02] <xx> version* not distro :p
[01:02] <bubblehouse> not sure yet.  Just got this CPU from someone, trying to load up lubuntu, sorry I'm so uninformed.
[01:03] <bubblehouse> it's attempting to load.  will let you know once I get a cli back or something
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> xx: Oneiric Ocelot - Ubuntu 11.10   also dies on April 2013
[01:04] <cloud__> hello everybody
[01:04] <xx> oh wow so i need to change my tower too :<
[01:04] <xx> i hope Precise is better than Oneiric
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> xx: lets put it simply. In April 2013, the only 2 releases supported on the desktop will be Precise (Ubuntu 12.04) and Quantal (12.10) as well as Lucid on the server
[01:04] <xx> IT BETTER BE BETTER :p
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> xx: you don't need to change anything, just install the newer release
[01:05] <xx> and back my stuff up before that
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> xx: why do you not already have a backup?
[01:05] <cloud__> i think you could simply go on with what you have...
[01:05] <cloud__> couldn't you?
[01:06] <xx> i dont back my stuff up for some stupid reason accipter
[01:06] <xx> ActionParsnip,
[01:06] <xx> its very stupid of me
[01:06] <cloud__> hello ActionParsnip
[01:06] <tom89> what a good backup for ubuntu
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: howdy
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> tom89: a nice big USB HDD is cheap and easy
[01:07] <ekaj> how does ESXi compare to Ubuntu erver when it comes to hosting VMs?
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> tom89, I use clonezilla for clones and grsync for home
[01:07] <cloud__> ActionParsnip,  writing from lubuntu, after your advices on partitions etc
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: sweet
[01:07] <cloud__> ActionParsnip,  i just said goodbye to microsoft
[01:07] <luc_> Gooplus.fr do you like ?
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> cloud__, Did Balmer rant at you. ;)
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> cloud__: hehe enjoy dude :)
[01:08] <cloud__> wilee-nilee,  i hope so
[01:08] <tom89> I will try clonezilla
[01:08] <cloud__> :D
[01:09] <cloud__> now i just knew about a broser, xxxsomething
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> tom89, You can do whole HD's or partitions, and it also saves the mbr.
[01:09] <cloud__> browser
[01:09] <cloud__> don't know if it's worth installing ir
[01:09] <cloud__> it
[01:09] <minas> can I change to pci=noacpi without logging into ubuntu? (because I cant :) )
[01:10] <minas> I mean from grub or something
[01:10] <Faceless> I just added a user with "adduser"
[01:11] <Faceless> And when i enter "users"
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> minas: hold SHIFT at boot
[01:11] <Faceless> the new user wont show up
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> Faceless: how about if you run:   groups username
[01:11] <alexfpms> Faceless, man users
[01:11] <luc_> hello, I am looking for information on the black SEO. there is SEO software for ubuntu?
[01:12] <alexfpms> Faceless, users - print the user names of users currently logged in to the current host
[01:12] <Faceless> oh
[01:12] <Faceless> thank you
[01:14] <minas> ActionParnship: At boot of ubuntu? at the screen where I choose to boot ubuntu/windows 7 etc?
[01:14] <minas> or after I selected to boot into ubuntu
[01:14] <minas> ?
[01:14] <luc_> for {spin} or autosubmit in free directory
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> minas: press E on the ubuntu kernel and then you can add it on the same line as:   quiet splash
[01:16] <Faceless> but when i try to use "chown guest:guest folder" it acts as there is no "guest"-user
[01:16] <craigbass1976> I've got a laptop with no trackpad buttons.  One finger tap is like the left button.  A two fingered tap is like the right click.  Any idea what's used usually for emulating clicking both buttons?
[01:17] <alexfpms> Faceless, there is no guest user
[01:17] <Faceless> ok
[01:17] <Faceless> why?
[01:17] <Faceless> i used adduser guest
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Faceless: the OS comes with a guest account......
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Faceless: why are you making another?
[01:18] <minas> ActionParnship: thanks a lot!
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> minas: now you are booted you can add it permanently using the desktop OS :)
[01:19] <Faceless> idk actually, i was going to make an account for my friends to access my ftp-server
[01:20] <cloud__> my god, this is very amazing, guys. i used linux a lot of time ago, when lxde was just born, and i had to do a lot of things just to watch a youtube video. it's really impressive to see how much things have changed... just wanted to thank you all for the advices, and say "see you soon"
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Faceless: then I'd choose a different name, like his name...
[01:20] <alexfpms> Faceless, what does command "adduser guest" said ?
[01:21] <alexfpms> Faceless, it created guest folder ?
[01:21] <Faceless> nothing special
[01:21] <Faceless> yeah
[01:21] <Faceless> just like if i created a normal user
[01:21] <alexfpms> Faceless, cat /etc/passwd is there guest inside ?
[01:22] <Faceless> yes
[01:23] <alexfpms> Faceless, so normally it is here
[01:23] <alexfpms> Faceless, try log out, log in
[01:23] <Faceless> with the actual user
[01:23] <Faceless> ?
[01:23] <alexfpms> yes
[01:24] <Faceless> ok, now?
[01:24] <alexfpms> yes
[01:24] <Immatix> I've installed a basic mail server package using tasksel install mail-server, and I have IMAP working properly with Thunderbird. However, I can't send email. I get "Relay access denied" from Postfix. ideas?
[01:24] <hot_wheelz> any updates on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1064621
[01:24] <intuxicated> hi guys
[01:25] <Faceless> "guest" is still there
[01:25] <alexfpms> Faceless, what is the problem so ?
[01:25] <tdlguik1c> chicago
[01:25] <tdlguik1c> chicagotall
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> hot_wheelz: tried the alsa ppa?
[01:26] <intuxicated_> hi again
[01:26] <Vka> hey guys, having big trouble with "general protection fault" mode. I have a black screen but the mouse seems to move, altought i cannot do anything with the keyboard but the pritn-screen does work "i only hear the click". I'm now supposed to install a patch for the program that caused this, and i know how to do that. I only don't know how to get out of this GPF mode. Please help!
[01:26] <tdlguik1c> chicagotallstrange
[01:27] <cakeboss> HEy guys. I am trying to mount a raw disk as a loopback device. There is an error I am being given, "you must specify the filesystem type". Anyone have any ideas?
[01:27] <mikubuntu> am i mistaken?  i thought that microsoft had made .odt files readable on windows machines?  i sent an official document/letter to a city office today and they replied saying that the file couldn't be opened and displayed this msg: "”The file 2012 11 1CityofCoralSprings cannot be opened because there are problems with the contents.  The file is corrupt and cannot be opened.”
[01:27] <Faceless> i want to run "chown guest:guest <folder>"
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: libreoffice can export to PDF and you can then send that
[01:28] <intuxicated_> i have an external sound card , name is EDIROL, it works fine, but if i unplug and plug it back system wont recognize it, any idea ? i try to restart  alsa but no luck
[01:28] <alexfpms> Faceless, what groups guest says ?
[01:28] <Faceless> "filetransfer"
[01:28] <minas> ActionParnship: I edited /etc/default/grub, added acpi=off, sudo update-grub and now it works
[01:29] <minas> thanks again
[01:29] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: I know that, and I will -- but, still the question -- isn't microsoft SUPPOSED to be able to read .odt?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: no idea, try asking in ##windows
[01:29] <alexfpms> Faceless, groups guest gives filetransfer ?
[01:29] <freetown2> anybody here managed to get iOS 6 devices to print via cups?
[01:29] <intuxicated_> no idea ?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: and you mean MS OFFICE is able to read odt, Microsoft is a company, not a software
[01:30] <Faceless> yes, i added it to the "filetransfer"-group
[01:30] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: yes, OFFICE
[01:30] <afidegnum> hello, pls what's the correct cron job formula? I am trying to run a cron at every 30 mins of every hours, everyday 30 * * * * wget -O - -q -t 1 http://www.thestorecomplex.com/cron.php
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: there is a difference
[01:30] <alexfpms> Faceless, so chown guest:guest wont work because there is no group guest
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: can it connect to http printers?
[01:31] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: I HATE MICROSOFT
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: ok......
[01:31] <Faceless> but when i TAB after "chown " my username fills in automatically
[01:31] <alexfpms> Faceless, when you create new user, the default group it creates is the same as the user name
[01:31] <cakeboss> Anyone have any ideas?
[01:31] <Faceless> so i should have entered "filetransfer:guest"?
[01:32] <alexfpms> Faceless, but you changed the default group by filetransfer
[01:32] <alexfpms> Faceless, chow guest:filetranfer
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> cakeboss: what filename are you trying to mount?
[01:32] <alexfpms> Faceless, user:group
[01:32] <Faceless> ok
[01:32] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, http printers? nope, it won't 'see' them because they won't advertise image/urf support
[01:33] <Faceless> but when i TAB at "chown gu" nothing fills in?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: you could share the printer with samba, can the OS connect to windows shared printers?
[01:33] <freetown2> except for one very new printer that we will soon put away
[01:33] <alexfpms> Faceless, not gu but gru
[01:33] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, iOS 6. As in them dumb tablets that do airprinting?
[01:34] <alexfpms> Faceless, *gro
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: not used one, I refuse  to buy apple products
[01:34] <cakeboss> ActionParsnip: I am trying to mount a raw file through a loopback device
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> cakeboss: so its an image of a CD? Or something else?
[01:34] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, yeah, not my choice either. schools here are kinda sold on Apple crap
[01:34] <Faceless> well, i expected it to fill in guest from gu
[01:35] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: If it's a disk image, rather than an image of a fileystem, then you'll need to expose the partitions using kpartx first.
[01:35] <cakeboss> ActionParsnip: I converted a .vmdk to a .raw I am trying to convert it to a .iso...So I guess now it is just an image?
[01:35] <alexfpms> Faceless, sorry i've mistaken
[01:35] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: What is your end goal?
[01:35] <Faceless> np
[01:35] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: To convert this .vmdk to a .iso
[01:35] <alexfpms> Faceless, so when you do chown guest:filetranfer does it work ?
[01:35] <Faceless> no
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: http://leimobile.com/how-to-setup-airprint-on-ubuntu-11-10-desktop/
[01:36] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: A: That's not an end goal B: That's not possible. What is your end goal?
[01:36] <alexfpms> Faceless, and what does it says ?
[01:36] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: To see the contents of JanusVM. I am using: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/convert-vm-iso
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> cakeboss: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-mount-ntfs-vmware-virtual-disk-image-vmdk-readwrite.html   why convert it
[01:36] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, ahem, it works with iOS 5 but not with iOS 6 in which Apple has helpfully changed its printing
[01:37] <cakeboss> ActionParsnip: Read what I said to Jordan_U
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: is it not the same method?
[01:38] <Faceless> alexfpms: uhm
[01:38] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, nope. They now do urf instead of pdf -_-
[01:38] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: Since the image is presumably of a virtual drive with partitions, and you mount partitions not drives, you first need to make the partitions accessible. That can be done with "sudo kpartx -a /path/to/disk.image".
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: sounds greeeeeeat
[01:38] <Faceless> alexfpms: it seems like it worked now
[01:38] <alexfpms> Faceless, do you know that you have to run it as root ?
[01:38] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: Thanks
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12254866
[01:38] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: Then you can mount the actual partition, which can be accessed via /dev/mapper/loopXpY
[01:38] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: You're welcome.
[01:38] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, i had to modify the avahi server files to advertise urf. Yeah, I know. I'd like to black out Infinity Loop
[01:38] <cakeboss> Thanks again
[01:39] <Faceless> alexfpms: yes, but i think the problem solved after i rebooted
[01:39] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, been there, done that and no go.
[01:39] <alexfpms> Faceless, chown gu + tab doesn't work beacause you are not in the filetransfer group
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: you can copy a PDF to the server, then run:  lpr filename.pdf   in an SSH session and it will print
[01:39] <vespakoen> Hey guys I am looking for a good, lightweight email client, gmail is nice but for multiple accounts. it sucks =) thunderbird is way to heavy and slow (strange since I am on a i5 with and 4gb ram hehe) and I need it to support html templates.. any ideas?
[01:40] <Faceless> alexfpms: oh, ok
[01:40] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: Note that that's explicitly stated in the website you linked to, "GOTCHA 1: If your VM has partitions, it's a little tricker. You'll need to setup the loop device, partition mappings and finally mount the rootfs partition. You will need kpartx to setup the mappings. :".
[01:40] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, thanks, I'll tell that to the rest of the school. :-)
[01:40] <Faceless> alexfpms: well, thanks a lot anyway!
[01:40] <alexfpms> Faceless, ;)
[01:40] <jrib> vespakoen: if you like text-based apps, consider mutt
[01:41] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: Yeah I was just about to ask about that haha
[01:41] <Jordan_U> cakeboss: :)
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: well if they want to buy proprietary stuff which doesn't play nice with anything but itself, you're gonna get issues
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: could buy an airprint server and hook it up
[01:42] <vespakoen> jrib, I need something with HTML template support =P
[01:42] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, heh, did I mention that even cups on Mac OS X has issues?
[01:42] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, ah well, i guess I shall just have to put on a big :-D
[01:43] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, thanks
[01:43] <willdabeast> kimberly, wadup
[01:43] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: I am getting a bunch of jargon
[01:43] <cakeboss> Jordan_U: When I use the first command in the instructions I get, "losetup: no permission to look at /dev/loop<N>
[01:44] <cakeboss> "
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> freetown2: http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i:aps,k:airprint%20print%20server&tag=duckduckgo-d-20    nice and cheap
[01:45] <freetown2> ActionParsnip, nevermind, i have in addition to supporting airprinting the need to tracking print jobs and charge them to accounts. I guess I will just have to go MacPro + Papercut and not Ubuntu + Papercut
[01:45] <freetown2> s/tracking/track/
[01:46] <TCorwin> Quick question, does anyone know if Ubuntu provides free CD Distributions for advertisment and such?
[01:46] <vespakoen> going to give "evolution" a shot
[01:49] <zykotick9> vespakoen: fyi, if you find thunderbird "heavy" wait 'till you see evolution.
[01:50] <freetown2> vespakoen, how about going KDE and giving Kmail a try?
[01:51] <freetown2> vespakoen, there is also opera...
[01:52] <Cong> everything in KDE looks better
[01:54] <wastrel> [
[01:55] <vespakoen> freetown2, kk, thanks, maybe I need to archive stuff, or something else is wrong with thunderbird, I dunno..
[01:55]  * vespakoen check out Kmail and opera
[01:55] <vespakoen> checks*
[01:56] <freetown2> vespakoen, there's nothing wrong with thunderbird. it just tends to consume an inordinate amount of RAM especially if you have thousands of emails in your mailboxes
[01:57] <vespakoen> yeh, it's crazy, and it seems to not even get my mail haha
[01:57] <vespakoen> but maybe that's because I probably went opening them in gmail first haha, nvm
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> Cong: you can theme stuff to look how you want....
[02:01] <luoluoluo> hi there, how to mark all mail as read in ubuntu?
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> luoluoluo: in which client?
[02:02] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i just found out yesterday that you can theme midnight-commander, not that i have ;)
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: nice :)
[02:03] <luoluoluo> ActionParsnip: /var/spool/mail/root
[02:03] <amews_aj-study> testdisk already found my missing partition. Is there anyway I can tell it not to look for more missing partitions? The rest of the partitions should be left unchanged
[02:03] <luoluoluo> in command
[02:04] <luoluoluo> I can't google an answer...
[02:05] <mibr001> while trying to install gui dj software i installed libdjconsole it failed halfway through and will not repair i am unable to install or uninstall anything using gui or terminal help
[02:06] <zykotick9> mibr001: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install", if so, what is the error?
[02:07] <mibr001> E: Unable to locate package install
[02:08] <zykotick9> mibr001: that looks like a syntax error...
[02:10] <mibr001> E: Sub-process /usr/bun/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:11] <tomreyn> i'm bored, anyone needs help?
[02:12] <c2tarun> tomreyn, if you can help me in Rooting android phone and partitioning SD Card?
[02:12] <tomreyn> with ubuntu
[02:13] <mibr001> cannot un/install software after failed libdjconsole install error details :installArchives() failed: (Reading database ...
[02:13] <mibr001> (Reading database ... 5%
[02:13] <mibr001> (Reading database ... 10%
[02:13] <mibr001> (Reading database ... 15%
[02:13] <mibr001> (Reading database ... 20%
[02:13] <FloodBot1> mibr001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:15] <mibr001> note to self DO NOT copy and paste error details here
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> luoluoluo: don't the read ones just get moved to another folder (they do in qmail)
[02:15] <Titomen> anybody with some experience on software raid ubuntu
[02:15] <somethinginteres> how can I fix a "device or resource busy error" when trying to work with my tv tuner?
[02:15] <luoluoluo> ActionParsnip: I finally figured out, enter "mail" to go into system mail list and enter "seen :u"
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> luoluoluo: ahh, gotcha
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> luoluoluo: nice
[02:16] <luoluoluo> ActionParsnip: thanks for the reply
[02:16] <mibr001> how can i give someone error details without flooding here
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> luoluoluo: I try. Glad you got the gold'
[02:16] <mibr001> also who can help me
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: usehttp://pastie.org or similar
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: you may need to force install the deb
[02:18] <RobbyF> hey guys, just insatlled 12.10 but those nouveau drivers are awful and causing tearing but my nvidia won't install, any tips?
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> RobbyF: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[02:19] <mibr001> im not very good in terminal can you give me the command?
[02:19] <RobbyF> doesn't work, gives me the no unity blank desktop look
[02:19] <TCorwin> Quick question, does anyone know if Ubuntu provides free CD Distributions for advertisment and such?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: copy the output then go to http://pastie.org and paste the text there, hit paste then when the page changes, copy the new address bar and paste that here
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: its not very much to do with terminal, so being 'good with the terminal' isn't important
[02:20] <mibr001> sorry i read the wrong comment there :)
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> TCorwin: you can download Ubuntu for free,or buy CDs at the Ubuntu shop or even on Ebay if your connection is slow
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> TCorwin, Canonical stopped the free cd's awhile back.
[02:21] <mibr001> http://pastie.org/5169892
[02:22] <TCorwin> ActionParsnip and wilee-nilee: I'm doing a presentation to promote Ubuntu and help current users with basic issues in 12.04 and 12.10. i was mainly looking for promotional CDs that they would provide.
[02:23] <willdabeast> how can I check in terminal whether I have openGL on?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> TCorwin: how would they be different to the ISO you can already download....for free
[02:23] <somethinginteres> ActionParsnip: I've been getting X crashes with nvidia current on my Geforce 8800.
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjconsole-data_0.1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: find the source of the package and report the bug, there are duplicate files and the package manager doesn't like that
[02:25] <TCorwin> ActionParsnip: I don't have any blank CDs. And i was curious if they provided free CDs for promotional reasons.Apparently not though.
[02:25] <OerHeks> TCorwin, some country's do have local teams to give away cd on promotion events. latest 12.10 doesn't fit on a cd+r anymore.
[02:25] <mibr001> thanks :) i think everything is gonna work now
[02:25] <luoluoluo> ActionParsnip: it seems "seen :u" is working on centos, but cannot work on ubuntu, I am still keep finding the solution
[02:26] <torontoyes> Is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without losing your previous install?
[02:26] <willdabeast> how can I check in terminal whether I have openGL on?
[02:26] <torontoyes> I mean.. there are some things I would love to over write
[02:26] <torontoyes> I am hung in my boot process with a black screen
[02:26] <torontoyes> I'm clueless what to do
[02:27] <TCorwin> OerHeks: Iwas looking for 12.04 LTS on a CD+R. And thats why i asked, cause i am part of a group, just without any CDs.
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: you could install over the top but you'll probably get issues. Far neater and more likely to get fewer issues with a reinstall then restore data from backup
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: what video chip do you use?
[02:27] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: older Pc.. don't remember.
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> wildc4rd: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[02:27] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: but everything installs ok
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: try the boot option: nomodeset
[02:28] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: I have vmware on there.. and there is some important ant stuff there.
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: why do you not have a backup?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> willdabeast, ^^^^ as wildc4rd
[02:28] <MartynKeigher> hey all
[02:28] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: Cause I'm a nut
[02:28] <torontoyes> I will use live cd and back up
[02:28] <torontoyes> I have a drive to throw everything
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: once you get the data. 1, backup your so called 'important'stuff.  then 2. Backup the stuff REGULARLY
[02:29] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: Understood
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: boot the VM to a live CD and you can mount the partition and access the data
[02:30] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[02:30] <torontoyes> I can run the vmware image from live cd?
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: I can't phrase it much differently, make the VM boot to the ISO and you can mount the partitions on the virtual drive and access the data
[02:31] <torontoyes> ohh
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: can you see how much easier this would be if you had a backup
[02:31] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: hmm.. yes
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> torontoyes, This virtualbox?
[02:32] <torontoyes> wilee-nilee: no, vmware
[02:32] <mibr001> still same problem...
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: I see this every day, people without backups when their data is apparently important, there is no excuse and its completely frustrating to have to dig people out, when it's so easily avoidable
[02:32] <torontoyes> wait. I have some strange messages in the prompt
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> hallelujah ActionParsnip
[02:33]  * ActionParsnip sighs
[02:33] <torontoyes> [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[02:33] <torontoyes> then...
[02:33] <torontoyes> [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[02:34] <torontoyes> what does that mean?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, I do always chuckle when you phish with the use your backup. ;)
[02:35] <justoboy> hello
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: people need educating. Trying to avoid people learning the hard way, its getting ridiculous now. Makes life easier for us as we don't have to start advising data recovery which takes time and effort.
[02:36] <bandit-led> any one else experiencing random lockups that need a hard reset to get back from??
[02:37] <torontoyes> ActionParsnip: I don't know why I take backing up for granted
[02:38] <TCorwin> Since were on the topic of Virtual Machines, my ISO for Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 will load for about 20 seconds and stop. This would be easier to show if someone had TeamViewer.
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> torontoyes: you aren't alone
[02:39] <TCorwin> Amy Suggestions on how to fix this?
[02:39] <TCorwin> any*
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, I agree, I try to inform people, one would think that having to spend hours fixing something at best would be enough, let alone the loss of data.
[02:40] <mibr001> http://pastie.org/5169971 i tried sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjconsole-data_0.1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb nothing changed
[02:40] <mibr001> i do not need libdjconsole
[02:42] <brunolopesjn> hi
[02:42] <brunolopesjn> anybody can help me?
[02:42] <ekim1> Is it only for linux or can it be used on windows.
[02:43] <brunolopesjn> i use ubuntu
[02:43] <TCorwin> ekim1: can what be used?
[02:43] <basketballstar> sync flash drive with ubuntu 1
[02:43] <Diamondcite> I use arch , but why not ask your question anyway :)
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: where are these debs from?
[02:44] <ekim1> sorry wrong chat....too many going at once!
[02:44] <brunolopesjn> i change unconsciously my user group, and i need know the standard groups of a user to fix it
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> brunolopesjn: $USER adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[02:45] <mibr001> http://hivelocity.dl.sourceforge.net/project/djplay/libdjconsole/0.1.2/libdjconsole_0.1.2-2_i386.deb
[02:47] <totallylost> Can someone help me with my VM?
[02:48] <MartynKeigher> wassup!?
[02:49] <totallylost> Ubuntu 12.04 will not load while i use the ISO in my VM. It starts and runs for 20 seconds the a bunch of text comes up.
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> totallylost: which ISO are you using?
[02:50] <totallylost> ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> totallylost: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[02:51] <brunolopesjn> ActionParsnip: Thanks a lot!!!
[02:51] <totallylost> ActionParsnip: im sorry, what is that?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | totallylost
[02:51] <Guest51505> hey guys. quick question. installing ubuntu 12.10 to a USB stick (not a live USB, but a full install). what file system do you recommend? ext4? fat32? what's fastest on a standard USB stick? you can install to fat32, right?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest51505: ext2 will cause fewer writes but doesn't have a journal. Ext4 has a journal but will write more
[02:52] <totallylost> ubottu: thanks for the insformation.
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest51505: Fat32 isn't suitable for Linux installs
[02:52] <Guest51505> ActionParsnip: and a journal makes it... safer?
[02:52] <Guest51505> i guess i'll forget Fat32 then :)
[02:52] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: Guest51505:  ext4 can be used without a journal as well.
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest5it helps with sudden power offs and such
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> i gotta split anyhoo
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> peace
[02:53] <Guest51505> Jordan_U: i don't want to rock the boat too much. i'll go with ext4
[02:53] <Jordan_U> Guest51505: A good choice :)
[02:54] <Guest51505> Jordan_U: i feel like i'm in the posh department store for file systems
[02:54] <mibr001>  http://hivelocity.dl.sourceforge.net/project/djplay/libdjconsole/0.1.2/libdjconsole_0.1.2-2_i386.deb open in software center failed during install i then followed the instruction to run sudo apt-get install -f in terminal which did nothing then i tried this sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjconsole-data_0.1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb which did nothing throughout this whole time this is my error http://pastie.org/5169971
[02:55] <willdabeast> Is there a way to turn down your fan speed in terminal?
[02:58] <mibr001> sorry for the novel btw
[02:59] <zoktar> has anyone been getting alot of segfaults lately from various media players, (seems to be mostly mp4 and mkv files) ?
[02:59] <zoktar> for 12.10
[03:00] <Titomen> i need some adivse on instaling ubuntu 12.04 on raid 1 boot and rest on raid5 +lvm
[03:01] <zoktar> iv tried removing any codecs and libs assosiated, minus the ones that uninstall half your system,
[03:04] <mibr001> can someone let me know if youre working?
[03:04] <exonarthex> good day
[03:04] <exonarthex> im having an issue with ubuntu 12.10
[03:04] <exonarthex> i have installed fglrx driver on my asus k42dy laptop and i can't see anything on the desktop
[03:04] <exonarthex> no launcher or toolbars
[03:04] <exonarthex> please help me
[03:06] <mibr001> try logging out and logging in ubuntu classic or 2d or whatever its called in this release
[03:07] <exonarthex> i can only logout using ctrl+alt+delete
[03:08] <cakeboss> Hey guys. I am trying to setup a loop device, partition mappings, and mount the rootfs partition. When I enter, "loopdev=$(losetup -s -f file.raw)" and I get, "No permission to look at /dev/loop<N>" as my response...what am I doing wrong?
[03:09] <mibr001> and youre then at your login screen click the gear on the password box and select ubuntu classic or 2d or whatever the "old" one is called then login this will use different graphics settings and therefore drivers so you can fix you real problem
[03:11] <cakeboss> Anyone???
[03:12] <cakeboss> Actually it is, "losesetup: no permission to look at /dev/loop<N>"
[03:13] <mibr001> im not very smart but if youre in terminal are you using sudo?
[03:13] <cakeboss> mibr001: yes
[03:13] <ekaj> Does it ask for a password?
[03:13] <cakeboss> ekaj: yes
[03:13] <ekaj> What user are you?
[03:14] <cakeboss> ekaj: the main account? I am using sudo so I thought it gave me root permissions
[03:14] <Mayhew> cakeboss: Ubuntu non-LTS releases are glorified betas. I would just use 12.04, or wait until 12.10.1.
[03:14] <cakeboss> Mayhew: I don't understand what that has to do with anything?
[03:15] <cakeboss> Mayhew: I am in the process of converting a .vmdk to a .iso. I am not doing anything with the OS itself.
[03:15] <Mayhew> cakeboss: sorry, meant to say that to exonarthex
[03:15] <cakeboss> Mayhew: ah lol
[03:16] <exonarthex> cakeboss: should i download and install 12.04 then?
[03:16] <cakeboss> exonarthex: see Mayhew
[03:17] <philllllijw> I'm installing ubuntu and I would like to know more about LVM. Essentailly what I want to do is have my /home as a separate partition. Is there an option for that?
[03:18] <Mayhew> exonarthex: Ubuntu non-LTS releases are glorified betas. I would just use 12.04, or wait until 12.10.1.
[03:18] <psusi> philllllijw, you might want to read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[03:18] <mibr001> person with graphics problem who were you
[03:19] <psusi> philllllijw, you can have a /home partition without LVM, but LVM has other advantages, also has disadvantages though
[03:19] <philllllijw> psusi, what are the disadvantages
[03:19] <psusi> philllllijw, Windows doesn't recognize lvm volumes... it's a bit more difficult to setup
[03:19] <mibr001> and i just fixed my problem yay! i uninstalled djplay my problem was from a completely different application now im fixing and updating libraries and im good
[03:20] <balleyne> Just upgraded to 12.10, and when I open Gwibber, I just see a blank grey area where my updates used to be. When I click Accounts, nothing comes up (and I don't see Broadcast Accounts in Settings anymore). Used to have Twitter and Identi.ca accounts configured, MIA now...
[03:20] <philllllijw> psusi, I probably don't need all the fanciness LVM provides
[03:20] <psusi> philllllijw, the normal gui Ubuntu installer doesn't support it so you have to do some command line management basically
[03:21] <psusi> philllllijw, but if you're comfortable on the command line, it has some significant advantages, especially if you tend to use multiple disks and multiple Linux installs
[03:21] <mibr001> who did i tell id be right back log off click the ubuntu symbol on the password box select ubuntu 2d and log in you should be ok
[03:22] <mibr001> now that my computer isnt having a seizure good night my friends
[03:22] <philllllijw> psusi, i'm doing a netinstall and i'm fairly comfy with cmdline.
[03:22] <psusi> philllllijw, then you might like the features LVM provides... see the wiki entry I wrote for more info... but if you just want a separate /home partition, you can get by without it
[03:23] <philllllijw> psusi, I'll just separate /home for now. Any idea if I can do that easily through the curses interface?
[03:23] <psusi> if you find yourself occationally setting up partitions to install Linux distros to for testing, resize partitions or move them between disks, then lvm may be for you... otherwise, might not be worth the bother
[03:24] <psusi> philllllijw, you can do that easily with the regular GUI Ubuntu installer
[03:24] <philllllijw> psusi, I dont have any intentions of installing various versions of linux. I do watn teh option to overwrite my installation without losing my /home directory though
[03:25] <psusi> philllllijw, you can do that just fine without LVM
[03:25] <psusi> philllllijw, just create a /home partition with the regular gui installer and set it to be mounted at /home
[03:25] <philllllijw> psusi, ok, I can't seem to figure it out using the installer
[03:26] <balleyne> how can I compare my Ubuntu install to a default install? I feel like I'm missing some recommended packages...
[03:26] <psusi> philllllijw, you also don't need a separate /home partition to keep your home directory if you reinstall Ubuntu... just choose manual partitioning, configure the /home partition mount point, and DON'T check the format box
[03:27] <psusi> philllllijw, you can even reinstall and preserve your home directory without having a separate partition if you want these days
[03:28] <psusi> you just have to chose manual partitioning, and do NOT check the format box is all
[03:29] <psusi> time for bed, night
[03:31] <|Anthony|> argh... i couldn't get clonezilla to boot from a usb drive following their directions
[03:31] <|Anthony|> they say that to make a bootable iso to use unetbootin
[03:32] <balleyne> what package do "Broadcast Accounts" come from?
[03:32] <|Anthony|> think i could use brasero instead?
[03:33] <jetsaredim> is there any way to prevent my system from coming to a complete crawl every time I open the unity menu/lens??
[03:33] <|Anthony|> jetsaredim, what are your system specs?
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> |Anthony|, I use this usb loader with clonezilla and other ISO's http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[03:35] <|Anthony|> ah
[03:35] <jetsaredim> |Anthony|: AMD 64 X4, 16G DDR3, 256G SSD, Radeon HD 1G RAM
[03:35] <|Anthony|> i remember looking at that a WHILE back
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> |Anthony|, This one makes unetbootin look like the neighbors ugly child.
[03:36] <|Anthony|> jetsaredim, i don't think that should be an issue on that hardware
[03:36] <|Anthony|> lol wilee-nilee
[03:36] <jetsaredim> |Anthony|: neither do I
[03:36] <ahmad_> hi guys
[03:36] <jetsaredim> hence my question
[03:36] <|Anthony|> understood
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> notice the generic gender hehe
[03:37] <|Anthony|> jetsaredim, what cpu is that?
[03:38] <ahmad_> can someone please help me figure out why vt-x virtualization is not working on virtualbox 4.2.2 i tried egrep 'vmx|svm' /proc/cpuinfo and vt-x is supported (at least i think so)
[03:38] <jetsaredim> |Anthony|: er - sorry Athlon II X4 640
[03:39] <|Anthony|> oh
[03:39] <balleyne> how do I configure Gwibber accounts in 12.10?
[03:40] <|Anthony|> jetsaredim, it's not BEAST, but it should fit the bill. tbh i ditched gnome and unity in favor of xfce
[03:40] <|Anthony|> for the performance issues
[03:41] <jetsaredim> |Anthony|: yea - I've been leaning that way too
[03:41] <jetsaredim> that's my next step
[03:41] <|Anthony|> although i am using compiz and emerald and conky and cairo-dock
[03:41] <|Anthony|> lol
[03:41] <jetsaredim> yea i like the eye candy too
[03:41] <|Anthony|> ;)
[03:42] <jetsaredim> i wish there was a way to turn on/off the stupid lenses
[03:42] <|Anthony|> honestly i like it cause it's fairly easy to configure to my liking
[03:42] <jetsaredim> cause i don't need them
[03:43] <|Anthony|> some people like it.
[03:43] <|Anthony|> i'm not one of those people
[03:43] <|Anthony|> lol
[03:43]  * jetsaredim +1
[03:46] <abdobonna> no any meeting in #ubuntu-meeting ??
[03:46]  * xlogik is using a Nexus 7 running Android 4.1.1 (JRO03D)
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> jetsaredim, I believe you can remove them, but here is a link fro toggling them off.  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/lens-toggle-quickly-enable-disable.html
[03:46] <jetsaredim> xlogik: 4.1.1 is so last month
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> xlogik, Gotta root that sucker and get a cooler setup
[03:47] <xlogik> yeah thanks.... I'm running ROM that I'm fine with
[03:47] <DINESH> whats  tis?
[03:48] <DINESH> what is this ?
[03:49] <xlogik> trying out this client... pressing buttons ;-)
[03:49] <DINESH> hello ? anyone  please?
[03:50] <DINESH> what is this
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> DINESH, If you have a problem and need help ask.
[03:50] <jetsaredim> wilee-nilee: apparently lense toggle is only available for 12.04
[03:50] <DINESH> well what is going on here ?
[03:50] <DINESH> ok this is ubuntu channel sorry...:
[03:50] <DINESH> :)
[03:51] <DINESH> exit
[03:52] <trism> jetsaredim: the code is basically: mkdir /usr/share/unity/lenses.ignore/; mv /usr/share/unity/lenses/lensename/ /usr/share/unity/lenses.ignore/; and the reverse, I think uninstalling/reinstalling is nicer
[03:52] <philllllijw> so I basically accidentally installed nothing off of the netinstall. I want to install unity and wahtever else I need. What apt package do I install to get unity?
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> philllllijw, sudp apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> sudo*
[03:53] <philllllijw> perfect. I'll let that run for a bit and take a shower :)
[03:53] <philllllijw> ah, its asking me Y/n questions :(
[03:54] <jetsaredim> trism: are the lenses all similarly named packages?
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> philllllijw, You might need to install lightdm as well.
[03:54] <mrmcgibby> Isn't there a setting somewhere that allows me to have different monitors be able to switch workspaces seperately?
[03:54] <philllllijw> wilee-nilee, what is that
[03:54] <trism> jetsaredim: most lenses are: unity-lens-lensname;
[03:54] <jetsaredim> trism: kthx
[03:55] <decbot> speaking of unity, if I recently upgraded from xubuntu 9.10, to 12.04 (long afternoon), would unity be installed?
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> philllllijw, It is the light display manager
[03:55] <philllllijw> ok
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> philllllijw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[03:56] <philllllijw> oh, gdm replacement
[03:56] <philllllijw> i'll be back in 15min
[03:56] <|Anthony|> this is bullshit
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> decbot, If this is a stock xubuntu no you would have to install it.
[03:59] <Brazguy__32> testing
[03:59] <Brazguy__32> hi guys
[04:03] <tomreyn> test succeeded
[04:15] <misterhk> i have a question regarding screen tearing, I've posted about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078890 if anyone could shed some light on my problem id appreciate it
[04:18] <|Anthony|> misterhk, are you comfortable editing your xorg.conf file?
[04:18] <misterhk> |Anthony|, yup
[04:18] <|Anthony|> ok... one sec i'll send a link
[04:19] <|Anthony|> misterhk, http://askubuntu.com/questions/198668/3-monitors-ubuntu-12-04-gnome-3-2-nvidia-cards-with-xrandr-or-xinerama/198701#198701
[04:19] <misterhk> |Anthony|, thanks
[04:19] <|Anthony|> disregard the fact that it is for triple monitors
[04:20] <|Anthony|> and look at the first Screen section
[04:20] <misterhk> ok
[04:20] <|Anthony|> notice the Option "TripleBuffer" "True"
[04:21] <misterhk> ah ic
[04:21] <|Anthony|> use that and also the sync to vblank options in nvidia-settings
[04:22] <hoylemd> Hey, I'm having a problemw ith my ubuntu server's ftp.  I'm trying to PUT a file to my home directory, but i keep getting 550 permission denied errors, even though i'm the directory owner.  Anyone know why this might be happening?
[04:23] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, when you ls the $HOME dir, is there a + at the end of the permissions?
[04:23] <hoylemd> you mean when i ls+l it?
[04:23] <hoylemd> ls -l rather
[04:23] <|Anthony|> sure... ls -l   ls -laX
[04:24] <|Anthony|> what ever floats your boat
[04:24] <|Anthony|> ;)
[04:24] <hoylemd> oh, because when i ls-l it, i just get the directory listing. only file/directory names
[04:24] <hoylemd> so the strict answer to your question is no
[04:25] <|Anthony|> sudo getfacl -R /home/insert_username_here
[04:25] <|Anthony|> or just getfacl -R blah blah
[04:25] <hoylemd> command not found
[04:26] <|Anthony|> i doubt you would have an acl without having set it up though
[04:26] <|Anthony|> ah k
[04:26] <hoylemd> got acl.  it listed a lot of stuff
[04:26] <|Anthony|> this is your server, or someone else? you own the physical machine?
[04:27] <hoylemd> it's my linode
[04:27] <|Anthony|> mmm
[04:27] <philllllijw> for some reason when I restart the system, it just hangs on the command line saying [ 2148.181083] Restarting system.
[04:27] <hoylemd> user::rwk group::r-x other::r-x
[04:27] <|Anthony|> rwk
[04:27] <|Anthony|> wtf is that
[04:27] <|Anthony|> should say rwx
[04:27] <hoylemd> it's what getfacl says
[04:28] <hoylemd> # file: home/hoylemd
[04:28] <hoylemd> # owner: hoylemd
[04:28] <hoylemd> # group: root
[04:28] <hoylemd> user::rwx
[04:28] <hoylemd> group::r-x
[04:28] <hoylemd> other::r-x
[04:28] <FloodBot1> hoylemd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <|Anthony|> yeah, rwx
[04:29] <hoylemd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1325582/
[04:29] <hoylemd> That's my output
[04:29] <|Anthony|> what about using scp. does that give you any issues?
[04:29] <|Anthony|> like ftp does
[04:30] <|Anthony|> or do you only have ftp access
[04:30] <hoylemd> haven't tried scp
[04:30] <|Anthony|> i doubt there is a configuration error on linode's part
[04:30] <elbeto> my wallpaper is dissapearing, i have to reset it every time i turn my computer on.  I am using xubunu 12.10
[04:33] <|Anthony|> fooey... even using clonezillas preferred method of installing on a usb drive (tuxboot) it still fails for me
[04:33] <akis> hi all. can i ask something? in update manager at software sources should or should not be checked the followings: Canonical Partners, Canonical Partners (surce code), Indipendent and Indipendent (source code)?
[04:33] <devish> does alsa base.conf exist here in 12.10 /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[04:33] <devish> i am unable to find it
[04:33] <hoylemd> scp isn't working either
[04:33] <|Anthony|> machine still says it
[04:33] <|Anthony|> s not a bootable disk
[04:33] <hoylemd> not even giving any feedback
[04:34] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, have you tried ssh? idk you might want to contact linode to see what their connection and authentication standards are
[04:35] <|Anthony|> obviously you have ssh access... lol
[04:35] <hoylemd> i have ssh access, and I'm 99.9% sure it's not a linode problem
[04:35] <jtrucks> anyone used rsyslog setup with tls? if so, any ideas on getting around an error like: error adding our certificate. GnuTLS error -64, message: 'Error while reading file.'
[04:36] <hoylemd> I'm getting dumb error messages from scp now
[04:36] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, you have sudo rights, right?
[04:36] <hoylemd> it's saying the file i'm uploading isn't a directory?
[04:36] <hoylemd> of course
[04:37] <|Anthony|> so theoretically you could adduser and see if it is just that you borked the file perms
[04:38] <tomreyn> jtrucks: http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/tls_cert_errmsgs.html -> GnuTLS error -64
[04:38] <hoylemd> my user definitely has write access to that directory
[04:38] <tomreyn> jtrucks: but no, i have not done it before
[04:38] <philllllijw> how do I open the damn console in unity?
[04:39] <tomreyn> philllllijw: do you mean a terminal window?
[04:39] <jtrucks> tomreyn: yeah, I'm working off that page, but thanks for helping out
[04:39] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, you're able to mkdir and touch and all that
[04:39] <philllllijw> tomreyn, aha, yes! I was searching for 'shell' or 'console' and forgot the word term apparently
[04:40] <hoylemd> THERE WE GO. man pages are too hard to read.  The problem was that my scp syntax was wrong.
[04:40] <hoylemd> but i'm still at square one: ftp is giving me access errors that don't make sense
[04:40] <tomreyn> jtrucks: ok, i'd try to check the file format with openssl, this can be easier to handle even though it's also not great
[04:40] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, which ftp client?
[04:41] <tomreyn> philllllijw: sounds like you went thrugh a long term search phase
[04:41] <hoylemd> filezilla and just the ftp tool
[04:41] <hoylemd> same problem either way.
[04:41] <jtrucks> tomreyn: oh, duh, openssl is a good suggestion. thanks :)
[04:41] <|Anthony|> but filezilla is able to connect, just can't move or upload files
[04:41] <|Anthony|> you can still crawl the directory tree
[04:42] <hoylemd> yes
[04:42] <tomreyn> devish: were you asking whether a file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf is part of any package in  12.10 ?
[04:43] <tomreyn> devish: if so, you can either use apt-file or the web interface at http://packages.ubuntu.com to find out.
[04:43] <|Anthony|> hoylemd, what about downloading a file from the server?
[04:44] <hoylemd> works
[04:47] <tomreyn> akis: which of these repositories you use is very much up to you and your preferences.
[04:47] <hoylemd> i think i have a vsftpd configuation messed up
[04:50] <hoylemd> yeah, looks like i had "write_enable=YES" commented out
[04:50] <hoylemd> now i just ahve to figure out how to restrt vsftpd and i should be good
[04:51] <|Anthony|> sudo restart vsftpd
[04:51] <|Anthony|> i'm used to openssh
[04:52] <hoylemd> woohoo! fixed it!
[04:52] <hoylemd> hey... i bet that's what was wrong with my wordprss thing!
[04:52] <syntroPi> Any ideas how i could get sdhci_pci into the ubuntu server installer kernel to install it onto usdhc card?
[04:52] <akis> tomreyn: i understand and i know that. by default i can see that they are checked (at other software) Indipendent and Indipendent (source code)? why Canonical Partners, Canonical Partners (source code) aren't checked by default and what do they provide me if i will check them. will they provide me something important?
[04:54] <tomreyn> akis: canonical, the company behind ubuntu, has some contracts with other companies which make proprietary software. the results of these contracts are available in this repository.
[04:55] <tomreyn> it includes one variant of adobe flash player and reader, i think.
[04:57] <syntroPi> is there any location where i could browse the available kernel modules for ubuntu server installer kernel?
[04:57] <akis> tomreyn: thank you for clarification. so do i have to check them, am i loosing something important if i leave them uncheck (default) or should i check them?
[04:59] <tomreyn> akis: i couldn't tell what's important to you
[05:01] <akis> tomreyn: ok. i c. i leave them uncheck as default.
[05:07] <tomreyn> akis: (as an example) here's a list of packages in the partner repository for 12.10 x86_64: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/partner/binary-amd64/
[05:07] <tomreyn> you can also browse the directory structure of the extras ("independent") repositories this way.
[05:11] <akis> tomreyn: i realized that ubuntu center installed a 2nd Canonical Partners (other software) source and it was checked. Can i safely remove this duplicate source and leave the default which was created by the system's installation and leave it unchecked as default?
[05:13] <tomreyn> if there are duplicates usinng the same repository location then you can remove one, yes
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[05:17] <akis> tomreyn: removing them using update manager's option is it a total remove or do i have to remove manually anything more?
[05:18] <tomreyn> akis: that's sufficient
[05:18] <akis> tomreyn: ok thanks a lot.
[05:18] <tomreyn> as long as they still show in update manager they remain in /etc/apt/sources.list* but they will be commented out and thus inactive.
[05:20] <lcabreza> hi guys, when im playing a video on Ubuntu 12.04 using totem ..sometimes video won't show ..i have to logout and log back in to make it work. is there a way to fix this ..
[05:21] <akis> the dupicate i deleted already they dont be shown in update manager. are they still in /etc/apt/sources.list* as duplicates?
[05:22] <tomreyn> if it fdoesn't show greyed out in update managed then it's all fone
[05:22] <tomreyn> *gone
[05:24] <strunin> Hello All!
[05:24] <akis> tomreyn: no they doesnt show at all. must they have gone. the same procedure must be followed for every othe remove of a software source. isn't it?
[05:25] <Cong> installed micro-httpd now what do I do?
[05:26] <f00dMonsta> Attention: Don't play Diablo3 with WINE. I got banned for it.
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[05:26] <f00dMonsta> <_<
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[05:26] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <f00dMonsta> o_0
[05:26] <tomreyn> akis: if you really want to delete any notion of an apt source, for whatever reason, yes. but normally just disabling them is fine, and allows you to reenable them later.
[05:26] <tomreyn> !ops tdlguik1c
[05:28] <akis> tomreyn: yes i know that and i am following already this method. it is very convenient.
[05:28] <f00dMonsta> Since that random spambot tried to scroll off my text...
[05:28] <f00dMonsta> Attention: Don't play Diablo3 with WINE. I got banned for it.
[05:29] <IdleOne> !ot > f00dMonsta
[05:29] <Cong> They don't know you are using wine.
[05:29] <f00dMonsta> not OT since it affects all linux users
[05:30] <IdleOne> it is ot since it has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[05:30] <f00dMonsta> until you get people complaining about why D3 doesn't work with Ubuntu
[05:30] <IdleOne> f00dMonsta: it works fine with wine apparently.
[05:31] <f00dMonsta> It does, you just get banned for it
[05:31] <IdleOne> Now please stick to the topic of Ubuntu support.
[05:31] <f00dMonsta> fine....
[05:31] <IdleOne> Thank you.
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[05:36] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:36] <tdlguik1c> shopiwoalsojimaking
[05:38] <akis> well. another little thing. in a netbook i freshly installed xubuntu 12.04. on that netbook i have 3 users accoutns. from the time i start use the system i cannot fix the keyboard layout. i mean that the system could not remember after every logout or restart the change layout options (alt+shift etc) of my keyboad layout so i had to reenter them or to use the mouse to click on flag to change the keyboard language. after googling for hours i found
[05:38] <akis> the advise to make an autostart application with the following command line /usr/bin/setxkbmap -option grp:switch, grp at_shift_toogle us,gr. this method seemed to be working only for one of the 3 users without issues, but not for the other 2 users, althought when i am logging in those accounts inittially works and after i am opening some application stops workink. also in layout properties still cannot save the option alt-shift or whatever i
[05:38] <akis> want. any advise to solve this isuue?
[05:38] <FloodBot1> akis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:39] <akis> FloodBot1: sorry but i am typing. not pasting!
[05:41] <suttiwit> !gimp
[05:42] <suttiwit> version?
[05:42] <suttiwit> !info gimp
[05:42] <suttiwit> okay
[05:43] <Cong> Something is malfunctioned with the micro-httpd package. It didn't add the right settings to inetd.conf.
[05:43] <Cong> It's functioning now.
[05:44] <pstanley> I'm having issues with my terminal. after so long, terminal window stops responding. If I ssh to a different server, terminal stops responding after exit (running 12.10)
[05:44] <Cong> how am I to put files in /var/www? am I to take ownership?
[05:45] <moondoggy> pstanley, might just be that you have a hanging process on the remote machine, like an X-window.
[05:46] <pstanley> moondoggy: any idea for when I don't SSH? it happens on terminals that to not connect via SSH
[05:46] <syntroPi> How would i install ubuntu server onto /dev/mmcblk0? Any ideas how i can get the installer to recognise that block device?
[05:46] <moondoggy> Oh.  Hmmm.  No, but probably my first guess isn't right.
[05:47] <moondoggy> I doubt you have two different problems with the same symptoms.
[05:47] <arunkumar413> how to enable to mouse wheel scroll in ubuntu
[05:47] <moondoggy> Are you running things in the background from that terminal?
[05:48] <moondoggy> I have no good ideas.  What are you doing when it freezes?
[05:48] <pstanley> I started google and search via forum, but nothing yet... normally, vi or nano ... today when I noticed, i did open gedit a couple times
[05:48] <slackin> #pugbot NEEDS 4 TO START NOW!!!
[05:49] <moondoggy> vi can hang if the file system is being hogged by something.
[05:50] <moondoggy> This is freezing on your local machine?
[05:50] <moondoggy> I dunno.  I should shut up.
[05:51] <LoSquartatore> ops
[05:51] <pstanley> yeah. I ahve a machine ruunning 12.04 and 12.10 .. both have issues, lol. You may be right about the running things from terminal. I
[05:52] <moondoggy> pstanley, ...you what?
[05:53] <pstanley> I'll have to look at when it happens. thanks moondoggy
[05:53] <moondoggy> Wow, both machines?  Sounds like hardware, maybe.  Are they unusual machines, like PowerPC or something?
[05:54] <pstanley> No, Lenovo with 4GB and Core i5. My desktop running 12.10 16GB with Core i7
[05:55] <moondoggy> That's what I have.  Weird.  You're welcome, if I did anything.  :)
[05:55] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: it happen only to me once. The first time i used it ..but its ok now ..
[05:56] <pstanley> I tend to get the odd issues
[05:56] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: as in you got unbanned?
[05:57] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: not banned ..just got a security alert saying ..login failed several times..
[05:57] <BlackWeb> I using Ubuntu 12.04 Server, & one Problem that I seem to be running into is that, When it boots up and goes to Grub, then Instead of quickly selecting a Boot selection and booting It just sits there to where if you was a normal desktop that wouldnt be a problem but since its a file server with just Power & Ethernet Cable then its kinda a hassle when it sometimes doesnt select and boot a Selection by itself. Has anyone experienced t
[05:57] <BlackWeb> hat Problem at all?
[05:58] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: I got an email saying I was banned for being "involved in actions deemed inappropriate for Diablo III"
[05:58] <BlackWeb> To where I need to have a keyboard to press Enter, After say acouple seconds from power up
[05:58] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: hmm...it might be a spam or something ..
[05:59] <f00dMonsta> no cos I went to the blizzard site, logged in and it was banned
[05:59] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: try to check your account in Blizzard website..
[05:59] <f00dMonsta> same when I try to log into the game
[05:59] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: do not rely on emails ...lot of people ..will always try to get accounts..
[05:59] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: I know, I can't even post on blizzard boards cos I'm banned
[05:59] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: try contacting blizzard support ...as long as you have the key ..
[06:00] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: and yea I receive like 10 fake blizzard emails a day
[06:00] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: good for you ..only have 10 ..i have like ..30 to 50 ..
[06:00] <lcabreza> especially when they know that you are already on a higher levels.
[06:00] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: lol. I'm waiting for them to reply
[06:01] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: I have crap characters
[06:01] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: and very bad gear
[06:01] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: im sure you'll get it back ..
[06:01] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: I got my 2nd legendary item last night... lvl 17 item XD
[06:01] <ix_> I've installed ubuntu 10.04 from the minimal iso, I want it to automount with thunar, I've installed thunar-volman, slim, policykit-1-gnome, gvfs
[06:02] <f00dMonsta> and I should shutup, or someone will say I'm OT again
[06:02] <f00dMonsta> :x
[06:02] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: heheh!! ..
[06:05] <lcabreza> f00dMonsta: when your successfull : add me : Lynx#6804
[06:05] <f00dMonsta> lcabreza: fingers crossed
[06:06] <SG> i want to make a timesheet app in django
[06:06] <Guest47236> please suggest some way
[06:08] <ix_> ok, this is funny, it automounts usbs but not cds
[06:09] <lcabreza> SG: check this out : https://github.com/myles/django-timesheet
[06:10] <hecker> ubuntu is for the weak and frail.
[06:11] <PK99> I beg to differ, hecker. Also, you spelled "hacker" wrong.
[06:12] <mmgc84> x) ubuntu suck$
[06:12] <PK99> mmgc84  Why so?
[06:13] <f00dMonsta> lol
[06:13] <f00dMonsta> Ubuntu is great for newbies
[06:13] <PK99> I see no point in criticizing Ubuntu.
[06:13] <PK99> It's like the gretest Operating System ever.
[06:13] <mmgc84> PK99, I am just teasing x)
[06:13] <mmgc84> its based on it
[06:13] <PK99> mmgc84, teasing whom? :/
[06:14] <mmgc84> click lcabreza
[06:14] <mmgc84> PK99 teasing anyone who cares x)
[06:15] <mmgc84> is it yours? lcabreza ? the git link?
[06:16] <roracle> I'm at work right now so I can't operate with anyone regarding troubleshooting.  However, I have recently installed 12.10, but I cannot seem to get my Nexus 7 to connect via MTP device.  Does anyone know anything about this?  I found an article regarding 12.04 but the solution doesn't work for 12.10.
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> roracle, I use gMTP
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> runs rather clunky but works
[06:18] <roracle> and it works like a charm?
[06:18] <roracle> oh
[06:18] <roracle> lol
[06:18] <roracle> what do you mean clunky?  that has various implications haha
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> roracle, Takes about 30 seconds to fire up but works,
[06:18] <roracle> oh that's cool.  thanks wilee-nilee
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[06:19] <roracle> i have to say, I HATED unity for a long time, but i find the new version of Ubuntu is pretty sweet.  i think Unity needs to include google searches along with system wide searches (can't search for apps by default, you MUST click the "app" icon which is cumbersome)
[06:20] <roracle> it also needs an option to move Unity to the bottom of the screen...makes it seem less intrusive
[06:20] <f00dMonsta> I"m just hoping hardware vendors will supporting linux more
[06:20] <mmgc84> uhhhh I used xubuntu now debian + xfce, never been a unity fan
[06:20] <mmgc84> +1 f00dMonsta
[06:21] <f00dMonsta> like printing... I can't use half the stuff my printer offers with linux
[06:21] <roracle> mmgc84: you say this as if it was 1998 all over again.  ;)
[06:21] <f00dMonsta> granted that half is stuff I rarely use, but still!
[06:21] <roracle> regarding the hardware support
[06:22] <mmgc84> hw support suck$
[06:22] <roracle> sorry, i meand food monsta
[06:22] <roracle> i suck at this typing stuff apparently
[06:22] <f00dMonsta> well it's alot better now, I know
[06:22] <roracle> how do you guys feel about Valve porting some Steam games over?
[06:22] <f00dMonsta> but still lacking polish on the drivers and software
[06:22]  * roracle wants native Skyrim
[06:23] <f00dMonsta> I'd love it
[06:23] <f00dMonsta> but I'm stuck with Windows for now
[06:23] <roracle> i'm stuck with Ubuntu for now haha.  My Windows ALWAYS crashes.  I can't push it at all without it tipping over
[06:24] <roracle> and all i do is game on Windows, and now I'm having to back off games for the sake of stability
[06:24] <f00dMonsta> windows is stable enough for me
[06:25] <roracle> i think i need a solid state hard drive...my problems with windows is my constant downloading/moving/deleting files and eventually my hard drive just craps out on me
[06:25] <f00dMonsta> BT would kill SSD pretty fast
[06:26] <f00dMonsta> :O
[06:26] <roracle> BT?
[06:26] <m3pow> hello !
[06:26] <m3pow> :)
[06:26] <roracle> hola
[06:26] <m3pow> got an issue here in LibreCalc. I tried to load an .xslx file that has loads of comments
[06:26] <roracle> but what do you mean BT?
[06:26] <roracle> bit torrent?
[06:27] <f00dMonsta> bittorrent? :o
[06:27] <m3pow> the comments are not hidden, i have to manually hide them in order to see my cells
[06:27] <roracle> how would that kill a SSD?
[06:27] <m3pow> any workarounds ?
[06:27] <f00dMonsta> mmm I guess I didn't think that through properly... BT wouldn't kill SSD lol
[06:28] <roracle> sorry m3pow i don't know anything about that.  i prefer using Libre for everything from the get-go.  that way i don't run into those problems going from one comp to another
[06:29] <m3pow> thanks roracle
[06:29] <f00dMonsta> I was thinking of the constant index searching would kill a HDD, I got it the wrong way around
[06:29] <m3pow> or...can i copy paste ONLY the info from the cell and exclude the comment?
[06:29] <f00dMonsta> Why not try that then? :P
[06:30] <m3pow> yes but how to exclude the comment
[06:30] <ASHER1> Hey i need please help about Upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 11.10  LTS
[06:31] <m3pow> the cell gets copied, usually WITH the comm
[06:31] <ASHER1> where i can find guide about this?
[06:33] <Cong> that would be 12.04 and don't upgrade, backup and install, ASHER1
[06:34] <roracle> asher: copy all your home files and do a fresh install. it's usually easier to reconfigure things than to back track trying to find what broke.  ;)  they called me the Format King back in the day lol
[06:35] <mmgc84> I quit playing f00dMonsta, and YES roracle win do SUCKS big time!
[06:36] <extropy> Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS is configured to bring up the HUD if you press "Alt L" <- not a valid key combo, needs to be "Alt+L" ...
[06:36] <extropy> so on every copy of 12.04 going out ... pressing Alt-LEFT in firefox (in less than 1 second) brings up the HUD *AND* sends the browser "Back"
[06:37] <extropy> not sure why "Alt L" == "Alt+Left" ... yet "Alt+L" does nothing ;)
[06:37] <Cong> what about in 12.04.1?
[06:38] <extropy> you can plainly see in the Settings dialog that its missing the "+"
[06:38] <extropy> Cong: are you saying this has been fix?
[06:38] <extropy> ed
[06:38] <Cong> no
[06:38] <food1> roracle, Just your window get ugly ... right?
[06:39] <extropy> how do I get my build #?
[06:39] <roracle> my windows?  it crashes and burnnnnnns!  i had to install Ubuntu to get my sanity back
[06:39] <roracle> and i'm loving 12.10 by the way, did i mention that?
[06:39] <extropy> I was just going to Ubuntu->Help->About but all it says is "12.04 LTS"
[06:41] <food1> roracle, My system freezes , after idle for serveral hours ... Installed a kernel... Just testing if it does again
[06:42] <extropy> food1 kind of sounds like a hardware problem. Does memtest report any errors?
[06:44] <food1> extropy, i did not do memtest yet. I also think it maybe hardware or kernel issue ... But i really need to reboot if it happened once
[06:44] <Cong> I tried Haiku the other day and my computer glitched like Windows does. I think it's my computer overheating.
[06:45] <mmgc84> back up Cong!
[06:45] <extropy> random crashes in my experiences are almost always a memory error ... boot your computer with the LiveCD (might need server now, can't remember) and run memtest ... if your memory has an error it'll tell you, just let one cycle pass (takes a while)
[06:46] <mmgc84> for me random crashes are never memory related !
[06:47] <extropy> Cong if your computer overheats I believe the hardware will fail to boot at all, might not be the case for all hardware
[06:47] <mmgc84> memory fail, _replace_
[06:47] <extropy> mmgc84: exactly
[06:47] <extropy> -_-_'
[06:48] <mmgc84> if you have 2 boards try swapping x)
[06:48] <mmgc84> ubuntu newbie talk sorry x)
[06:48] <Cong> I've been using Ubuntu 10.04 for 2 months and I've had no problems with glitches or crashes.
[06:48] <food1> extropy, Server LveCD?
[06:49] <extropy> I think so, yeah
[06:49] <mmgc84> I use debian testing and no crashes
[06:49] <Ascavasaion> When I try to download the deb package for Flash through firefox it asks me if I want to open it with aptURL.  I say yes and then it tells me that it cannot find channel precise-partner.  Any ideas?
[06:49] <extropy> I know it has memtest but I think they might have pulled it from Desktop
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, If you want flash install the restricted-extras for your desktop, it also has some extra media codecs and ms fonts.
[06:50] <extropy> Every time I build a new machine now I run memtest before I do anything else now ... memory errors are common enough to want to save myself the trouble of having something go wrong later.
[06:51] <mmgc84> when using xubuntu 810 ... 12.10 most of the time  very stable, every fuckup it mostly my fault
[06:51] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: I have done that and have flash installed.  But sites I go to all tell me that my flash is outdated.
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, This with chrome
[06:52] <food1> extropy, pm please?
[06:52] <mmgc84> its just stupid Ascavasaion !
[06:53] <extropy> seems like the only time I ever have problems they're fix by the next release and never actually my fault
[06:53] <Ascavasaion> wildc4rd: Chromium and Firefox.
[06:53] <Ascavasaion> oops
[06:53] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: : Chromium and Firefox.
[06:53] <extropy> case in point "Alt L" bringing up the HUD when it should be "Alt+L" can anyone tell me if that's still a problem in 12.10?
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, Are you using a script block like noscript?
[06:53] <Ascavasaion> mmgc84: I have to agree.
[06:54] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: If I am I am unaware that I am.
[06:55] <extropy> and why does "Alt L" in the config register as "Alt+Left" in the first place?
[06:56] <Cong> maybe Alt L(eft)
[06:56] <extropy> and what does the HUD even do? only just noticed that it seems to be some kind of macro interface or something.
[06:58] <Cong> the HUD is the new way to execute programs. if you remember the name you shouldn't be looking around for it in a menu
[06:58] <mmgc84> ahhhhhhh the HUD, I remember now x)
[06:58] <extropy> how is the HUD different from the menu you get when you press the Windows key?
[06:59] <extropy> I think the hud should come up when you press the "~" key ala IDSoftware Tech engine
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[06:59] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:59] <extropy> except ... it should probably just be an F-key like any other button that transcends the entire OS
[07:02] <Archaical> anyone know how to set winbind or samba to recognize capitalized names in a domain environment?
[07:04] <extropy> honestly, I have a hard enough time not getting hacked to bits on IRC when I'm not trying to be jackass ... why would someone try to flood?
[07:04] <himanshu_linux> hi,  how to see which program is using the network ?
[07:05] <extropy> mmgc84 what's the HUD all about?
[07:05] <Ascavasaion> In chrome I cannot access Shockwave flash either.  It pops up a line at the top of the browser window saying that it "Could Not load Shockwave Flash".
[07:06] <himanshu_linux> hi,  how to see which program is using the network ?
[07:07] <Ascavasaion> himanshu_linux: I am not sure... but I do know that Firestarter shows what applications are using what ports and IPs.
[07:07] <himanshu_linux> ok
[07:07] <himanshu_linux> seeing ..
[07:08] <mmgc84> google just that himanshu_linux
[07:09] <KeviNjLauseN> My first irc chat room
[07:10] <Cong> KeviNjLauseN, got your commands memorized?
[07:10] <Archaical> anyone know how to set winbind or samba to recognize capitalized names in a domain environment?
[07:10] <KeviNjLauseN> using Ubuntu 12.04 pp on a LgX120 netBook
[07:11] <KeviNjLauseN> wish I knew
[07:11] <KeviNjLauseN> commands/
[07:11] <KeviNjLauseN> ?
[07:12] <mmgc84> Cong just remember that linuxes
[07:12] <KeviNjLauseN> quit:
[07:12] <mmgc84> name NAME
[07:12] <mmgc84> Name
[07:13] <mmgc84> NAMe
[07:13] <KeviNjLauseN> How do I find a list of irc commands
[07:13] <mmgc84> they all are different
[07:13] <mmgc84> hi there KeviNjLauseN
[07:13] <KeviNjLauseN> besides google lol
[07:13] <Cong> KeviNjLauseN, type /quit lol
[07:13] <mmgc84> dont
[07:13] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, try sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[07:13] <Archaical> try /help
[07:13] <Archaical> ?
[07:13] <Archaical> anyone know how to set winbind or samba to recognize capitalized names in a domain environment?
[07:14] <mmgc84> try /whateveryoucanimagine
[07:14] <KeviNjLauseN> good mornin mmgc84
[07:14] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: Okay, will do now... see you ina few minutes.
[07:14] <mmgc84> Archaical, why do you need capitalized?
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> cool
[07:14] <Archaical> I'd like users who connect to be reffered to using their proper names from the primary domain controller.  Like PatientX not being referred to as patientx on the ubuntu box.
[07:15]  * Cong help
[07:15]  * Cong help
[07:15] <mmgc84> uhhhh I havent tried that in a lot of time
[07:16] <mmgc84> google Archaical
[07:16] <Archaical> did brother, first thing i did and hit it hard for 6 hours, if you search winbind capitalize you will find every post i've made and they are the only ones.
[07:17] <Archaical> reason being is if you use template homedir = /path/share/%U ubuntu sets that username wildcard to the lowercase version of the name that is connecting.
[07:17] <Archaical> because that is how the username is handed to samba via winbind.
[07:18] <Archaical> so if winbind is downgrading the names is it because its set that way in adduser.conf?  i say no because i've already set the uppercase names in adduser.conf
[07:18]  * Cong is playing with the irc commands
[07:19]  * Archaical thinks cong needs to be slapped around with a wet trout.
[07:20] <mmgc84> x)
[07:20] <mmgc84> Archaical, try the debian administrator handbook x)
[07:21]  * Cong thinks Archaical needs to come back when he's well educated in the art of wet trout slapping.
[07:21] <mmgc84> jajajaja
[07:21] <Archaical> lol
[07:21] <mmgc84> Cong,  is hillarious x)
[07:22] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: It never worked, the same problem.  Tried it in firefox and Chrome
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, Hmm, not sure then sorry.
[07:22] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: :(  Darn.  thanks for trying though.
[07:23] <mmgc84> Archaical, goto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Whacking_with_a_Wet_Trout
[07:24] <Archaical> its a shame i am probably one of the few here that has been around long enough to know the origins of the wet trout statement and you kids are sadly lacking in the experience drawn from such.
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsfiD78Cy0s the original fish slapping
[07:26] <extropy> omg ... this thing is *so* much easier to use after changing the HUD hotkey to Alt-L o_.'
[07:26] <extropy> irssi and Firefox both relying on Alt-Left for navigation made it a constant problem
[07:28] <ciphered> how are computer random freezes diagnosed?
[07:28] <ciphered> and troubleshooted
[07:28] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: I would check that youtube clip, but I cannot without Flash :(
[07:28] <ciphered>  my computer freezes on mint out of the blue, i can still move the mouse but the OS doesnt respond anymore, a hardreset should be done, how cna i troubleshoot that?
[07:29] <penguinman> ciphered, did it start happening after you installed something?
[07:29] <ciphered> penguinman: not really
[07:29] <BlackWeb> Im running Ubuntu 12.04 Server Which I'm having a problem with the Machine not auto loading the OS in grub, Which wouldn t be a problem but the server I have running only has a power cord & Ethernet cable so its kinda a hassle when it does it, Has anyone experienced this?
[07:29] <ciphered> when i work, sometimes the computer freezes, the music keeps playing the mouse moving but no response
[07:29] <ciphered> i have to hardreset it
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> Ascavasaion, works here.
[07:30] <ciphered> i cant switch to terminal windows from gui control alt f1
[07:30] <Ascavasaion> wilee-nilee: Not for me... No Flash remember :)
[07:30] <penguinman> ciphered, check /var/log/xorg.log maybe. had that problem with the proprietary fglrx drivers on my old laptop.
[07:31] <ciphered> fglxr?
[07:31] <penguinman> proprietary ati drivers
[07:31] <ciphered> i have an nvidia
[07:31] <ciphered> didnt install its drivers yet
[07:32] <penguinman> try installing them then and see if that helps
[07:32] <ciphered> geforce cuda
[07:34] <Archaical> BlackWeb: edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=1 and make sure its uncommented.
[07:34] <Archaical> if that doesnt work i have one more thing you can do which will force it to work.
[07:35] <ciphered> how can i probe for my graphica card to know its model
[07:35] <valleycat> did anyone else's trackpad stop working after updating to 12.10?
[07:35] <llutz_> ciphered: lspci | grep -i vga
[07:36] <Archaical> valleycat: it might have something to do with the cat in your name and a mouse reference.  (insert mouse / cat joke here)
[07:36] <valleycat> heh
[07:36] <ciphered> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[07:36] <ciphered>    
[07:36] <ciphered> it doesnt show the nvidia
[07:36] <Archaical> otherwise, sorry man dont have any good ideas on why that happened
[07:36] <ciphered> this is the built in intel
[07:36] <FloodBot1> ciphered: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:36] <extropy> valleycat who's the hardware vendor?
[07:36] <valleycat> must have scared the mouse driver away
[07:36] <ciphered> flood?
[07:36] <Archaical> ^_^
[07:36] <valleycat> apple?
[07:36] <valleycat> :s
[07:37] <extropy> huh, the only apples I've worked with were PPC (because Apple no longer supports them ;)
[07:37] <Archaical> BlackWeb: would you mind terribly telling me if my solution worked for you?
[07:37] <valleycat> lol
[07:38] <extropy> did you upgrade to 12.10 or do a fresh install?
[07:38] <Ascavasaion> As usual, Linux fails the bar and does not allow me to view Flash...  Sigh.
[07:38] <BlackWeb> Archaical I'll give that a try, Which i was looking into commenting out the function recordfail
[07:38] <extropy> more like "Adobe fails" xD
[07:38] <valleycat> upgrade
[07:38] <Archaical> yea but you dont really want to change the 00_header file because it will be changed on the next update of grub.
[07:38] <extropy> Adobe doesn't support PowerPC either ... it's quite annoying
[07:39] <extropy> You might try doing a fresh install. Seems like there's a lot of room for things to break with that upgrade process. I never do it because it takes hours >.<
[07:40] <extropy> someone with more intimate knowledge might be able to fix the problem though
[07:40] <valleycat> :/
[07:40] <greylurk1> Gah, my touchpad just stopped working randomly.
[07:40] <Archaical> i as well have never had good results with an "upgrade"
[07:40] <extropy> greylurk1 ... meey valleycat ;)
[07:40] <Archaical> lol
[07:40] <Archaical> meet he meant.
[07:41] <greylurk1> valleycat?
[07:41] <extropy> I wonder if my Vaio's trackpack will stop working when I install these updates.
[07:41] <Archaical> DO IT!
[07:41] <valleycat> fresh installs are annoying with my computer
[07:41] <Archaical> become a member of the club!
[07:41] <extropy> meh ... Thunderbird, don't think it'll break anything
[07:42] <valleycat> because sometimes rEFIt decides to stop working
[07:42] <Archaical> since we all have a good repore, anyone know how to set winbindd to accept and pass names from network to samba as they are transmitted without downgrading them to all lowercase?
[07:42] <greylurk1> It's weird.  I can see that xinput is reporting it's disabled, but xinput enable doesn't actually do anything.
[07:43] <BlackWeb> Archaical I dont see the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=1 Entry at all in my /boot/grub/grub.cfg file?
[07:43] <dogweather> Are some Ubuntu sub-sites down? E.g., the computer certification info - http://www.ubuntu.com/certification
[07:43] <extropy> the other day Ubuntu turned off my Wireless adapter in the *BIOS* ... had to discover some obscure application called "RFKILL" to get it back >.<
[07:43] <llutz_> BlackWeb: "edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=1 "   you see the difference?
[07:44] <the_dark_knight> hey guys, I want to run multiple instances of my worker class. So I am trying to do http://www.bpaste.net/raw/sPr0GRCVX6DjDcEOvq4z/ . I want to send a number/id to my worker and then identify it with that number for later purpose. Basically I want to run some number of workers and identify them with an id by using a single worker.py file. How Do I do that? please help
[07:44] <BlackWeb> Alrigth hold on I was checking /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:45] <extropy> how do you kill the mouse in X? wasn't it like "killall gpm" or something? *nostalgia*
[07:45] <Archaical> BlackWeb: not there, /etc/default/grub is the file to change
[07:46] <Archaical> BlackWeb: make sure when you are done editing that file you run update-grub and update-grub2 when you are done.
[07:48] <ryannathans> i get home, turn my machine on and we have a 'waiting for network' message on the purple ubuntu screen, it's a problem with the machine and not my network. I've traced it back to a few lines in /etc/network/interfaces that configure my infiniband card for ip networking
[07:48] <ryannathans> i just dont know what to do, when i have them uncommented the machine doesn't boot with networing
[07:48] <BlackWeb> Alright I'm doing it now, just curious what does that that line actually do? Does it  just make sure that if theres no selection it'll load OS? I'm rebooting server now, cause ya the thing was it sometimes would do that and it was a hassle to wonder if it came up without a Monitor/Keyboard
[07:49] <Archaical> would you mind pasting a copy of your interfaces file?
[07:49] <extropy> did ryan and nathan join forces? I should have foreseen this ...
[07:49] <ryannathans> who
[07:49] <Ascavasaion> So I will never be able to see Youtube again, no use any site that uses Flash.  Unless I move to Windows.
[07:49] <extropy> you don't live in the Seattle area do you?
[07:49] <ryannathans> no
[07:49] <weiyang> hi, my system get duplicate pv
[07:49] <the_dark_knight> hi, how do i check the people who have just accessed my machine say with ssh? help
[07:49] <ryannathans> i'm in western australia
[07:50] <weiyang> how can i delete one?
[07:50] <llutz_> Ascavasaion: blame Adobe
[07:50] <extropy> different WA ;)
[07:50] <ryannathans> hah
[07:50] <Archaical> BlackWeb: that file setting forces a hidden timeout, if you set it to 1 its one second, if you set it to 5 its 5 seconds. and it runs unseen forcing the OS to load without notifying the system
[07:50] <extropy> always blame Adobe ... always
[07:50] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: sudo grep sshd /var/log/auth.log
[07:50] <Ascavasaion> llutz: :(  Blaming does not help me though.
[07:50] <extropy> I don't know who's worse: Adobe or Oracle ...
[07:51] <Archaical> Oracle
[07:51] <Archaical> hands down
[07:51] <Archaical> Oracle is the devil.
[07:51] <BlackWeb> Alright Cool, Very Much appreciated :)
[07:51] <Archaical> HA Take that flooboot!
[07:51] <Archaical> bot even.
[07:51] <Archaical> BlackWeb: np.
[07:51] <_cronus_> the_dark_knight, last
[07:51] <greylurk1> so, i'm wrong.  xinput enable on the trackpad doesn't do nothing.  It logs "Synaptics Touchpad: touchpad found" to the Xorg.0.log
[07:52] <greylurk1> But it lies.
[07:52] <extropy> is it killall gpm? something like that ... resets the mouse
[07:52] <greylurk1> gpm isn't running.
[07:53] <Archaical> Anyone know how to force samba and winbind to recognize names capitalized if they are capitalized : ex: Archaical not archaical   and ArchaiCAL not archaical?
[07:53] <ryannathans> this is my /etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.com/kztAYd3G
[07:53] <the_dark_knight> _cronus_: llutz_ both /var/log/auth.log and last are not helping. I want the name of that machine or say the user who ssh my machine . he may be authorised or not.
[07:53] <extropy> my trackpad gets overheated and weird depending on where I am, what the weathers like, etc ... makes me want to throw this netbook through a window
[07:53] <ryannathans> every time i remove the lines relating to ib1 the machine boots with no network issues
[07:53] <ryannathans> what may be going wrong?
[07:53] <Archaical> you could try a little pocket mouse?
[07:53] <the_dark_knight> _cronus_: sorry last will do fine. didn't look at the first line
[07:54] <greylurk1> Yeah, I've got an external mouse, but it's a pain to carry around another piece of hardware, and such.
[07:54] <the_dark_knight> _cronus_: llutz_, but how do I see what that user is doing. suppose last is showing "still logged in" how do I know what he is doing?
[07:55] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: "w"
[07:55] <extropy> ryannathans: this might be kind of a stretch but maybe ubuntu is doing something to your iptables rules?
[07:56] <ryannathans> extropy: i don't think so. the two commands that get executed regarding the 'find' return nothing at the moment
[07:56] <anthony> lol hey
[07:56] <tdlguik1c> kim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging tough
[07:56] <anthony> new guy is here lol
[07:56] <tdlguik1c> kim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogo
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[07:56] <tdlguik1c> sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging tough
[07:56] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <tdlguik1c> oglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging toughkim
[07:56] <tdlguik1c> waftpleiig sbluewallpepperjoyridepacman toogsdildogooglecgirome giecancingmoynatpari sopapiildeh anging tough
[07:56] <anthony> how do u use dis ubuntu
[07:56] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <_cronus_> the_dark_knight, not an easy question. maybe you could use ps axjf and look at the process tree, but you'll miss daemonized processes, or see the processes belonging to the user.
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[07:57] <FloodBot1> tdlguik1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <ryannathans> http://pkg-ofed.alioth.debian.org/howto/infiniband-howto-5.html
[07:58] <ryannathans> my ib0 or ib1 isn't listed on ifconfig -a
[07:59] <the_dark_knight> _cronus_: can't grep it here . ps axjf | grep user1
[07:59] <extropy> it must be the way your interfaces file is configured
[08:00] <ryannathans> i've just commented out the offending lines and seeing if it'll work after a reboot
[08:00] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: "ps xjf -u <uid>"   uid = the users uid
[08:00] <extropy> because yeah if the interfaces aren't showing up in ifconfig ...
[08:02] <extropy> same thing was happening with my wireless after I "disabled wireless" ... when I went back to "enable wireless" the option wasn't even there. Ubuntu had set up some kind of Soft-block ... disabled the wifi in the BIOS of all places
[08:02] <extropy> so yeah, Ubuntu might have done something you don't want somewhere along the line and since it isn't wifi related I'm not sure how to help
[08:03] <Archaical> literally paying a crispy 5 dollar bill to the person who successfully answers my question with an answer the produces the results i need.  The question, how do you force winbind and samba to recognize uppcase names and report them to the system uppercase.  for more detailed information see my post at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078563
[08:03] <Archaical> and payment is made via paypal.
[08:03] <extropy> is these a DNS thing?
[08:04] <the_dark_knight> llutz_: where do I get his uid. can't get it from last and w
[08:04] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: id username
[08:04] <extropy> isn't ActiveDirectory *hugely* dependent on DNS?
[08:04] <_cronus_> the_dark_knight, yes, that shows uid, try auxf
[08:05] <ryannathans> *headbutts computer*
[08:05] <ryannathans> i give up on ipoverib
[08:05] <Archaical> no, the samba box is in a domain enviroment, users are connecting with Capitalized names like Tester  and   FranklinW  and the ubuntu system sees them as tester and franklinw  and thus makes a home folder which is lowercased for those users,  now, when the users roaming profile is copied to the samba server share, its copied with the capital letters and thus the home folder isnt the same as
[08:05] <Archaical> the roaming profile directory.
[08:05] <extropy> I see, that would be annoying
[08:05] <extropy> and you changed the configuration for SMB, right?
[08:06] <extropy> is there a command you need to run to flush Samba's old confige and restart with the new one?
[08:06] <extropy> like sudo service samba restart ... or something?
[08:06] <Archaical> Yes, to include template homedir = /path/%U  which for user Tester would be /path/tester  and when a roaming profile is made, its made like so, /path/Tester   and for ubuntu  /path/tester is not same as /path/Tester
[08:07] <Archaical> did the flush already
[08:08] <extropy> maybe the problem isn't Samba ... what creates the new user's home directory for Samba does it just run "adduser" or something?
[08:08] <Archaical> a little more digging determines that when a user attempts to connect in a domain enviroment, winbind a sub-service of samba is retrieving the user names from the PDC and making a fake passwd file so that the users name is stored locally.  when it does this it makes that lowercase name in this fake passwd instead of the uppercase name.  and then samba from there takes that name.
[08:08] <Archaical> already configured /etc/adduser.conf to incorporate capitalized names
[08:09] <extropy> does adduser's config need to be reloads (I wouldn't know)
[08:09] <extropy> *reloaded
[08:09] <Archaical> i'm fairly certain right now its a setting with winbindd or nss_info but i've LITERALLY read the entire manual for both (and i swear to go i will NEVER doubt how verbose a computer programmer can be when writing a manual) and i've gotten no where.
[08:09] <the_dark_knight> llutz_: _cronus_ , but where do I get the user name? user1 from last and w doesn't work when I do "ps xjf -u user1"
[08:09] <Archaical> i've reloaded the adduser.conf as well =D
[08:09] <FireStorms> Hi, I'm looking to buy a Inkjet printer that works well on Ubuntu and has decent quality and low cost inks. The last printer I had was Lexmark Z13 12 years ago
[08:09] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: "ps xf -u user1
[08:10] <extropy> didn't even know that was a think, lol
[08:10] <FireStorms> Can anyone suggest one please
[08:11] <extropy> Is Microsoft involved with Samba development at all?
[08:11] <extropy> I could see them breaking it on purpose just to get people to buy Windows 8 ;)
[08:11] <extropy> but enough of my conspiracy theories ...
[08:12] <Archaical> lol
[08:12] <extropy> so have you tested adduser to see that it adding usernames with caps?
[08:12] <the_dark_knight> llutz_: I can see user1 in "last" and "w" but not in ps tree. does this mean he is logged out? btw your command with other logged in users works fine. thanks
[08:13] <Archaical> I will test that to confirm right now, good point.
[08:13] <llutz_> the_dark_knight: "last user1" shows you if the user still is logged in or not.
[08:13] <weiyang> I have two volume group with the same name
[08:13] <extropy> and that business with temporary passwd files ... ew ... wonder if you wouldn't have to modify some source to get that working again
[08:14] <weiyang> how can I delete one of them?
[08:14] <the_dark_knight> llutz_: yes. good. thanks
[08:15] <Archaical> system is reboot to force all configs and dependencies to reload.
[08:15] <Archaical> afk taking a dump
[08:16] <iceroot> can i resize / when /home/username/.private is encrypted (and part of the / partition) or are there checksums for the partition size?
[08:17] <iceroot> 2. question: why can ubuntu use encrypted swap even when no user is logged in. is the key stored on /?if so, where
[08:24] <syntroPi> iceroot, id guess swap is only used for one uptime keys for that could be dynamically generated at boot time and remain in RAM? correct me if im wrong...
[08:26] <iceroot> syntroPi: thats the question, i am not exactly sure how it works but swap is encrypted after a suspend too, so because of that i would say its a normal key on /
[08:26] <llutz> syntroPi iceroot  wouldn't that make encrypted swap senseless?
[08:26] <iceroot> llutz: yes
[08:26] <iceroot> llutz: but how does it work if not that way
[08:27] <llutz> iceroot: idk unfortunately
[08:28] <syntroPi> hmm idk
[08:29] <EnginA> hey guys, dpkg lock was held, so I had to kill the dpkg instances... it turns out there was an installation going somewhere and now it is interrupted
[08:29] <EnginA> whiptail is now consuming 100% cpu etc
[08:29] <EnginA> how am I supposed to clean this mess up
[08:29] <EnginA> (mind you this all happens when I have to do something on this box urgently)
[08:30] <Archaical> oke doke.  Yes adduser allows creation of uppercase names, however getent passwd still shows all lowercase names
[08:31] <Archaical> for those of you just joining in, there is a 5 dollar bounty on the successfull answer leading to desired results as indicated in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078563
[08:32] <extropy> still at it aye?
[08:32] <EnginA> $5 ? wow!
[08:32] <Archaical> i WILL solve this.
[08:32] <extropy> you sound like me when I was trying to get iptables to do SPI
[08:32] <Archaical> hey man if you can't answer it no need to be-little a 5 dollar bill, someone else will enjoy it that much more =D
[08:33] <extropy> you'll get there ... might take a damn year ... but you'll get it
[08:33] <Archaical> i have about 12 hours left.
[08:33] <_cronus_> iceroot, it seems it works as you described
[08:33] <extropy> so adduser is creating working usernames with caps?
[08:33] <Archaical> Aye
[08:34] <Rootbrian> lowercase is the thing. Must be a bug.
[08:34] <iceroot> _cronus_: sounds very unsecure in my opinion
[08:34] <_cronus_> iceroot, not really, since the keys are not stored on disk.
[08:35] <_cronus_> iceroot, root can always read memory.
[08:35] <iceroot> _cronus_: but how does a suspend work in that case?
[08:35] <Archaical> thing is, since this is a domain environmnet, when a user attempts to connect to the samba shares, samba uses winbind to grab the usernames list from the primary domain controller and pulls them down to a temporary passwd file which is stored on the system and updated regularly.  this file is viewable in a sense via typing getent passwd which will then return a list of all users this samba
[08:35] <Archaical> shared system recognizes as valid.  all the usernames are lowercase even though the usernames on the primary domain controller are capitalized.
[08:36] <extropy> sounds like maybe winbind is misconfigured
[08:36] <Archaical> since they are shown lowercase in that file when a users homedirectory is mapped, its mapped with lowercase, however Windows makes the roaming profile directory Uppercased in accordance with the actual usernames and therefore the two dont mix.
[08:36] <_cronus_> iceroot, suspend does not stop the memory but hybernate does not work properly
[08:36] <llutz> iceroot: it doesn't without tweaking as an article on help.ubuntu.com shows
[08:36] <Archaical> thats what i said.
[08:36] <Archaical> but i've read the man page regarding winbind back to front.
[08:37] <extropy> maybe it's a bug?
[08:37] <Archaical> it better not be.
[08:37] <extropy> the other thing that always gets me: typos, also order of operations (where applicable)
[08:37] <iceroot> _cronus_: but how can the system reach the memory again, when the system is suspended?
[08:37] <linux_noob> none here?
[08:37] <prakansh> hi
[08:37] <iceroot> llutz: you have a link?
[08:38] <llutz> iceroot: bit.ly/M3h3Hn
[08:38] <Archaical> Hi.
[08:38] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: many are here
[08:38] <linux_noob> Hello, I'm having troubles installing Ubuntu on my older laptop. It's giving me a message "Secure boot not enabled."
[08:38] <iceroot> llutz: thx
[08:38] <Archaical> lol Rootbrian: many are here, few will answer =D
[08:38] <_cronus_> iceroot, that's hardware. maybe check with #hardware
[08:39] <iceroot> _cronus_: thats not a hardware feature, and its ##hardware :)
[08:39] <Aerosonic> Is local IP address assignment random or sequential?
[08:39] <Rootbrian> linux_noob there should be an option to disable the detection of secure boot by pressing F6 when at the boot launcher.
[08:39] <Aerosonic> Like, 192.168.1.23
[08:39] <Archaical> sequential if you are asking what i think you are asking.
[08:40] <Archaical> however the IP address handling system/device will sometimes reserve IP's for systems that are offline based on lease times etc.
[08:40] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: if that works, what I mentioned previously.
[08:40] <linux_noob> @Rootbrain all I get is the bios screen, then the message, no boot launcher
[08:40] <linux_noob> brian*
[08:40] <lxf_> linuxmint
[08:41] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: boot from the CD or liveusb, whichever you made, but ensure the boot order in the BIOS is set to hard disk being last.
[08:41] <_cronus_> iceroot, power states are set by hardware. software uses acpi to switch power states. i wasn't trying to set off the conversation by mentioning hardware, i just think that it has more to do with the hardware field.
[08:41] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: Already done. Still does not seem to work for me.
[08:42] <Rootbrian> linux_noob are you booting from CD or liveUSB?
[08:42] <iceroot> _cronus_: yes, maybe i have to read what "wake up from suspend" is doing
[08:42] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: liveUSB
[08:43] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: what is the boot order? Also, ensure the bios can even boot from a usb device.
[08:44] <iceroot> _cronus_: the interesting part is how does the hardware knows what to restore and how the system is then reading the encrypted swap. maybe its very easy and everything is stored in ram including the swap-key
[08:44] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: I've had it work in the past, one second though, it's possible I've made a error when putting Ubuntu on to the USB.
[08:45] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: use unetbootin. That usually works best. Format the usb drive first.
[08:46] <Rootbrian> once done, boot using the 'install ubuntu' option to skip the desktop.
[08:46] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: Thanks, have tried unetbootin a few times. I think it's an issue with administrator priviledges on the computer I'm using to make the USB. Always have problems when creating a USB on Windows.
[08:46] <bitbuzzer>  /msg nickserv identify buzibuz
[08:46] <iceroot> _cronus_: my mistake was that i thought the ram is also encrypted but its only swap
[08:46] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: Will let you know if it works this time around.
[08:46] <Aerosonic> bitbuzzer: You could type /ns id buzibuz
[08:47] <bitbuzzer> Aerosonic: thanks
[08:47] <iceroot> which brings up another question :)
[08:47] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: login as administrator if you're having issues, or run as administrator.
[08:47] <iceroot>  /tmp is using tmpfs and if i am correct, tmpfs is only stored in ram and not the hd?
[08:49] <the_dark_knight> hi can I assign an id to a command. Say when I do "python sample.py" (and this execution will run something). I want to assign some id to this execution. can I do it with setsid.
[08:50] <iceroot> the_dark_knight: you want to execute the script as another user?
[08:50] <_cronus_> iceroot, i believe, and this is just my personal opinion on this, that encryption is a measure mostly useful against offline forensics
[08:51] <the_dark_knight> iceroot: no the current user. but say I want to remember the execution. suppose sample.py will have some content that will go on running. so I will check if it is running with that id later. something like that.
[08:51] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: is the process pid sufficient for your purposes?
[08:51] <iceroot> _cronus_: i think so too. i am fine when my home is encrpyted because there are important data, the rest is unimportant for this system
[08:52] <iceroot> the_dark_knight: so you want to start the program and want a id for that task. thats the PID
[08:52] <iceroot> the_dark_knight: there was a command to start a program and get its PID but of course i cant remeber that command
[08:52] <Rootbrian> iceroot: safest way to secure a system when not in use (when sleeping) is to disable the network device.
[08:52] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: yes. but it will change for every other execution , i guess. I want to do it like "python sample.py --id 10"
[08:53] <the_dark_knight> iceroot: refer my comment to kushal_kumaran .
[08:53] <iceroot> Rootbrian: you can steal laptops and for that case i need protection
[08:53] <Rootbrian> Iceroot: encryption and thief proof, yes.
[08:54] <Rootbrian> iceroot: I was under the impression it was internet related until it was a laptop.
[08:54] <Rootbrian> *About a laptop
[08:55] <iceroot> Rootbrian: no, i have virtual machines on this laptop and these are very important because they are workstations for the customer
[08:55] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: is the code in sample.py in your control, or are you running someone else's application.  If it is yours, have it create a file /tmp/<id>.lock and take a lock on it.  Then you can check if the process is running using the flock command.
[08:55] <micjan02> i think my firefox profile might've gotten a little corrupt. how can i export and import it back again (i do not mean copy ~/.mozilla, i mean import/export)?
[08:57] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: techniques used in writing typical unix daemons might be helpful: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/daemonize
[08:57] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: but then again the id here PID will be unique but not fixed. say I want to hardcode 5 id's with corresponding five executions. something like that.
[08:57] <Rootbrian> micjan20: If you mean saved passwords, there is an addon to do so. There is an option within firefox to restart with addons disabled in the Help menu.
[08:57] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: lemme check your link.
[08:58] <Rootbrian> iceroot: now I understand the situation. I would be that cautious if it was a setup like that
[08:59] <iceroot> Rootbrian: and encrpyted home is working fine without any issues, so its a very good way i think
[08:59] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: so with daemonize I can assign the pid manually right?
[09:00] <Rootbrian> iceroot: I never encrypt mine due to not much valuable info being in it. Mostly videos and utilities I found from old hard drives that had windows on them. :)
[09:00] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: so what will the test.pid file have?
[09:00] <subdesign> hey
[09:01] <subdesign> if apt cant find i want to install and recommends something, how can I easily grab the suggestion (and no to type in) ?
[09:02] <subdesign> *not to
[09:02] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: pid cannot be changed.  If you want your program to behave differently according to given argument, then you just write your code that way.  Don't see how the OS could provide any special support for that.
[09:02] <greenit> hi, would any1 be as nice to subscribe this petition? http://www.change.org/petitions/arenanet-inc-consider-development-alongside-the-wine-project-3  would be nice if there is a linux-compatible gw2-client. please don't see this as an advertisement, i just try to get 2-3 more people to sign it, at least because they want to support the growth of gaming-software on linux :)
[09:03] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: do you know anything about supervisord of python
[09:03] <the_dark_knight> ?
[09:04] <Rootbrian> greenit: maybe also share it on identica and other social networks, other IRC's?
[09:05] <Rootbrian> subdesign: highlight it, right click > copy, shift-insert to paste it.
[09:05] <greenit> Rootbrian: yeah, i'll do :)
[09:05] <subdesign> Rootbrian, ok thx :)
[09:06] <subdesign> so no automated command built in. np.
[09:06] <overclucker> the_dark_knight: why not write the pid to file?
[09:06] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: no, but I'm sure the fine folk over on the mailing list at http://lists.supervisord.org/mailman/listinfo/supervisor-users do
[09:07] <Rootbrian> subdesign: can also right click > paste.
[09:09] <phuc> ee
[09:09] <phuc> co ai viet nam ko
[09:10] <the_dark_knight> overclucker: kushal_kumaran, so there is no way to do it like, open 3 terminal windows, start running 3 python programs in it. and then with another terminal check which instance is running and which is not? please help .
[09:11] <Loay> i want to purchase the IBM laptop in this configuration order Cheap cost + Low configuration + light weight. which model number of IBM is good for me ?
[09:12] <phuc> dm tui bay
[09:12] <phuc> noi cai cc gi
[09:12] <Rootbrian> Loay: I suggest comparing all of them. If speed is what you desire, go for the fastest. Storage and ram can always be upgraded. Check ebay for supplies of aftermarket batteries, if none, don't buy it.
[09:13] <Loay> ok thanks for suggestion. can you please suggest more on this configuration.
[09:13] <Rootbrian> Loay: Include amazon and other shopping websites. Ebay isn't the only one. It's just my primary choice, as to why I suggested it.
[09:14] <Loay> thank you dear
[09:15] <overclucker> the_dark_knight: there are plenty of ways to do that. one would be to have each process create a pid file in a directory, and then write a script to collect process information for each pid file in the directory.
[09:15] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: if that is all you want, then have your program print out its pid as the first thing it does, and then use that pid for monitoring.
[09:15] <Rootbrian> Loay: for a comfortable and speedy system, 2.4 GHz or faster CPU, (dual core or higher, or just dual core) 2GB-4GB of RAM. Hard disk, easily obtained at most computer stores. 80GB is good enough for the conscious user.
[09:16] <vedic> I have lost the pass phrase of my secrete key. I have revokation key and public key. How to revoke the key so that I can generate the new one. I haven't uploaded my keys to the public key server
[09:16] <Loay> ok , and my main concern is that Light weight and Low configuration.
[09:16] <Rootbrian> Loay: there isn't much you can customize on a laptop unless it was being made at the factory for you, before and during production.
[09:17] <Loay> because i have already laptop for good configuration but that is above 3 kg
[09:17] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: overclucker , yes that seems a good way.
[09:17] <[deXter]> Loay, Why IBM?
[09:17] <Rootbrian> Loay: the lighter you go, the likely fact is, the lower the specs will be.
[09:18] <Rootbrian> Loay: lenovo is now ibm since they took over.
[09:18] <Loay> [deXter]: many suggest IBM laptop and i am part of the IBM partner company.
[09:18] <syntroPi> the_dark_knight, you may want to take a look at start-stop-daemon man page
[09:18] <Loay> Rootbrian: ok
[09:19] <the_dark_knight> syntroPi: lemme check
[09:19] <Loay> could you please give a good web link for that
[09:19] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: Back after trying again. Same error immediately after boot. "Secure boot not enabled"
[09:19] <Loay> ?
[09:20] <[deXter]> Loay, I would suggest Dell, never had any issues with Linux on it, everything works out of the box - suspend, hibernate, Fn keys, brightness keys, wifi everything
[09:20] <the_dark_knight> syntroPi: hey is it like upstart. cos I am already using upstart. but Is there any way to give a fixed id to a service
[09:20] <Loay> ok , i am also linux admin.
[09:20] <ryannathans> hahahaha
[09:20] <ryannathans> admins.
[09:20] <Loay> please give me the dell laptops website link....
[09:21] <Loay> [deXter]: do you have any laptop linkx for dell?
[09:21] <syntroPi> the_dark_knight, it can be used to "daemonize" console programs such as creating pidfile and such
[09:21] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: I'm not sure what else that can be done. Can I suggest burning a live CD on a CD-R/RW disc and booting from it and trying again?
[09:21] <syntroPi> its not sysV or upstart its a wrapper
[09:21] <[deXter]> Loay, just go to dell.com and take your pick
[09:22] <Rootbrian> Loay: http://www.dell.com/
[09:22] <Loay> ok
[09:22] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: Unfortunately, no optical drive on this laptop. Only option is USB.
[09:22] <[deXter]> Loay, if you want a good value for money, look for machines that have AMD Fusion APUs like the AMD E-450
[09:22] <Loay> ok
[09:22] <Loay> AMD is best processor?
[09:22] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: connect a usb cd drive maybe?
[09:22] <[deXter]> Loay, if you're on a limited budget, yes.
[09:22] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: Thanks anyways for the help, I'll look in to it further. From what I have found so far it's a new feature included in Ubuntu 12.10
[09:22] <syntroPi> the_dark_knight, in the past it was often used to integrate console programs as services in sysV init scripts easily
[09:22] <linux_noob> Rootbrian: Don't own one.
[09:23] <Loay> [deXter]: ok got it
[09:23] <Rootbrian> linux_noob: I suggest now using 12.04.1 LTS.
[09:23] <_cronus_> the_dark_knight, there is no way you can ask the kernel fro a specific pid. there is no such option in the kernel
[09:23] <the_dark_knight> syntroPi: but can I assign my own pids?
[09:25] <the_dark_knight> _cronus_: i get it. I 'll refrase my question with updated requirements wait.
[09:26] <ryannathans> when you ssh into a computer you get information about the system state
[09:27] <ryannathans> how cna you get that again withuot reconnecting
[09:27] <Rootbrian> ryannathans if it's cached, yes. I haven't used ssh before.
[09:27] <syntroPi> the_dark_knight, nope afaik the kernel does that, but you can let it create a pid file in /var/run for the child process with it
[09:29] <the_dark_knight> _cronus_: syntroPi , kushal_kumaran , here is my sample.conf for upstart http://www.bpaste.net/raw/kpGVFaV8o3wIhao8lH63/, and here is sample.sh http://www.bpaste.net/raw/watm7BM9rEzkX4amlHcF/ . Now I want to execute Worker.py in sample.sh some number of times and keep them up and running with sample.conf of upstart. Now It is ok with only one "python Worker.py" line from sample.sh but how do I do it with multiple executions.
[09:31] <krobelus> hi, I run 12.04 live (from xp parition booted with grub4dos) i use the persistent flag and setup casper-rw ext2 partition that is quite small. Q: How do I merge the ext2 casper-rw in the squash to free up space and maybe move it to another system?
[09:31] <syntroPi> the_dark_knight, you have to for them to background and keep track of the pid's
[09:31] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: see the upstart cookbook at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ for jobs with multiple running instances
[09:32] <syntroPi> the_dark_knight, maybe you can use the "&" operator to fork it to background and then use LASTPID=$(echo $!) for tracking pids
[09:32] <Rootbrian> krobelus: Mount the windows xp partition, move the data in the /home/ folder to a folder, then remove the filesystem?
[09:32] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: this section, specifically, should help: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#instance
[09:34] <krobelus> Rootbrian, can I do that from inside the same live ubuntu whos squashfs im trying to modify?
[09:34] <Rootbrian> krobelus: I recommend a liveCD.
[09:35] <juniour> i am getting error while updating
[09:35] <juniour> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1325956/
[09:35] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: looking into it. but see http://pypi.python.org/pypi/supervisor , I was just reading it. Can I do it from inside the python script or say the shell script - Worker.py / sample.sh . I just want one line into sample.conf
[09:36] <XxX-newbie> hey  yesterday i upgrated to 11.10 . how can i back to 11.04 :)
[09:36] <blazemore> XxX-newbie: You can't
[09:36] <juniour> no back fresh reinstall 11.04 hee
[09:36] <blazemore> You're better off doing a fresh install
[09:36] <Rootbrian> juniour: I'm using a client that can't view links or click them, if it's a dependencey issue, I recommend running synaptic and fixing it from there. File > fix broken packages
[09:37] <juniour> ohhh
[09:37] <juniour> copy it
[09:37] <Rootbrian> Juniour: won't work with highlighting or copying either I'm afraid.
[09:38] <Rootbrian> Juniour: jmirc to be exact.
[09:38] <juniour> Rootbrian i am also using client
[09:38] <Rootbrian> juniour: logged in from my blackberry.
[09:39] <juniour> k
[09:39] <blazemore> juniour: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf && sudo apt-get update
[09:39] <blazemore> This  will delete the older entries and download the latest ones after which the error should no longer be there.
[09:39] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: ok now I have read the #instnce part. so I suppose I will give BAR=1,2,3,4 . So will it be able to always up and run 1,2,3,4 instances?
[09:40] <juniour> Rootbrian can't open synaptic getting error
[09:40] <Rootbrian> juniour: gksu synaptic
[09:40] <juniour> yep
[09:40] <Rootbrian> juniour: someone provided some info to use.
[09:41] <Rootbrian> thanks to blazemore
[09:41] <juniour> Rootbrian i think i go to recover mode and try to install or remove broken package
[09:41] <slim_> anyone know how to control an iphone 4 with your computer without jailbreaking it or messing with the phone? I got a free iphone 4 with a broken screen that made it stuck at the homescreen and I want to use programs to be able to use it
[09:42] <Rootbrian> juniour: yes, that is your best way to do so, if it doesn't work, what blazemore recommended.
[09:42] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: when you start a job you will do this: start sample BAR=1, then run start sample BAR=2, etc.  this will make upstart start multiple instances of the "sample" job like these: sample (1), sample (2), etc.
[09:43] <syntroPi> the_dark_knight, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8279848/supervisord-adding-multiple-processes-for-php-and-gearman
[09:43] <Rootbrian> slim_ bring it to a repair shop to replace the screen. It will have to be jailbroken and it's apparently nearly useless without it.
[09:43] <Rootbrian> slim_: useless without the touch screen
[09:45] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: so in my sample.conf should I write " exec sample.sh -${BAR}" or "exec sample.sh ${BAR}"?
[09:45] <the_dark_knight> syntroPi: this is exactly what I want. good. thanks
[09:46] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: there is no need to actually *do* anything with $BAR.  just having the instance keyword is sufficient.
[09:46] <the_dark_knight> syntroPi: how do I install this supervisord?
[09:46] <juniour> getting error while update
[09:46] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: oh i get it.
[09:47] <Rootbrian> juniour: if fixing them does nothing and you have the same issue, clean install. But backup the /home/ folder's contents.
[09:48] <juniour> Rootbrain it a complicated task as in my system 4 os is installed
[09:48] <Rootbrian> juniour: that is if you have a usb hard disk, memory card or flash stick/thumb drive.
[09:49] <Rootbrian> juniour: how many hard drives in system?
[09:49] <cornernote> hello
[09:50] <juniour> only one but size is 1 TB
[09:50] <Rootbrian> cornernote: hello
[09:50] <juniour> four partation
[09:50] <cornernote> i am trying to install mydumper.. if i use apt-get then mydumper doesnt work (it just segfaults), and if i try to compile it, i get an error that i am missing MYSQL_LIBRARIES_mysqlclient
[09:50] <Rootbrian> juniour: I strongly recommend getting a second hard disk installed, having (if mine is the same as your setup) windows on the second one, linux on the first one.
[09:50] <cornernote> im not sure what to try next
[09:51] <juniour> Rootbrain boot loader is of ubuntu
[09:51] <Rootbrian> juniour: two windows installs on secondary, two linuxes on primary.
[09:51] <kushal_kumaran> cornernote: install the build-time dependencies with the command apt-get build-dep mydumper, then try to compile
[09:52] <Rootbrian> juniour: do you have all linux on the drive?
[09:52] <Touhou11> cornernote: Have you reported the segfault as a bug on the "mydumper" package?
[09:52] <juniour> yaaa
[09:52] <cornernote> Rootbrian - will try that now
[09:53] <Rootbrian> juniour: that explains the complications.
[09:53] <cornernote> Touhou11 - yep, but im impatient so looking to see if there is another solution =)
[09:53] <kushal_kumaran> cornernote: might this be the problem you're having: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mydumper/+bug/1006459
[09:53] <cornernote> Rootbrian: it installed some packages .. but same issue
[09:53] <juniour> Rootbrain 1TB divided in to four 250gb
[09:54] <Rootbrian> juniour: if you have the funds, or a spare computer that has a drive or external drive you aren't using, that could be a good step to move the data to that drive. Or consider maybe another drive?
[09:54] <Touhou11> cornernote: Is the -dev version of mysqlclient installed? That'll be necessary for the compilation to find the necessary libraries
[09:54] <juniour> 1-ubuntu ,2-backtrack ,3-win7,4-win 8
[09:54] <cornernote> kushal_kumaran: yep, thats the same as my issue
[09:55] <kushal_kumaran> (note to self: learn to use ubottu)
[09:55] <cornernote> Touhou11 - yes, i installed using apt-get libmysqlclient15-dev
[09:55] <Touhou11> I wouldn't hold your breath on niche software getting bugfixes, most of that stuff is just imported from Debian and never touched after
[09:55] <Jon--_> Is it safe to move around primary partitions with gparted to allow for creating extended partitions in desired locations?
[09:55] <kushal_kumaran> cornernote: there is also a failed to build bug reported for mydumper
[09:57] <cornernote> i have it running on another ubuntu server, but perhaps thats running 11.x
[09:58] <Rootbrian> juniour: two 500GB hard drives would be a wise decision. One with windows installs (like me, a 120GB), the other with two Linux installs (500GB). The windows one can be removed from the system, the main linux one, ubuntu can be reinstalled without affecting it.
[09:58] <FernandoBasso> What is that "Cedar Trail drm driver in DKMS format"?
[09:59] <lxf_> df
[09:59] <lxf_> dfvdf
[10:00] <Rootbrian> lxf: what was the point of that?
[10:00] <Rootbrian> lxf_ what was the point?
[10:01] <Rootbrian> lxf__: what was the point?
[10:01] <krobelus> after installing fglrx  in 12.04, my boot/console resolution  got smaller, how do I get it back to native lcd res?
[10:01] <blazemore> krobelus: Uninstall fglrx
[10:02] <krobelus> i need it for xbmc
[10:02] <Rootbrian> juniour: I believe reinstalling ubuntu on the primary partition shouldn't affect the rest of the drive. Just take note of the /dev/sdxx address.
[10:02] <blazemore> You have to choose
[10:02] <krobelus> xvba acceleration
[10:02] <juniour> yaa
[10:03] <juniour> Rootbrain i will reinstall if i will not able to fix the prob
[10:03] <juniour> well i am trying to fix if i failed i will frsh install
[10:04] <Rootbrian> juniour: good call. But ensure you backup the home folder(s) to a memory card or other backup device just to be safe.
[10:04] <MestreLion> is there a way to install a given .deb (like dpkg -i file,deb) but also pulling dependencies and recommends the same way apt-get install does ?
[10:04] <juniour> yaa
[10:04] <juniour> sure
[10:04] <blazemore> MestreLion: Install the dpkg, let it fail, then run apt-get -f install(as root)
[10:04] <the_dark_knight> syntroPi: kushal_kumaran , take a look at here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8279848/supervisord-adding-multiple-processes-for-php-and-gearman. where exactly is he writing the conf file. I mean which dir?
[10:04] <demo> who can help me ?
[10:04] <blazemore> !ask | demo
[10:04] <demo> i need how to use the IRC
[10:04] <juniour> Rootbrain thanks for your support
[10:04] <demo> who can tell the uButtntu
[10:04] <juniour> i appreciate it
[10:04] <demo> the +[CcfjLnt] what's mean?
[10:05] <mestari> i dont know
[10:05] <blazemore> That's the channel mode, it's not important
[10:05] <demo> thanks
[10:05] <blazemore> demo: ^
[10:05] <blazemore> OK np
[10:05] <demo> the ubuntu is good
[10:05] <mestari> windows is better
[10:05] <demo> yeah
[10:05] <blazemore> Well, that's your opinion demo and mestari
[10:05] <demo> win8 is can be run ARM
[10:05] <blazemore> you're actually both wrong
[10:05] <demo> i want to use WIn9
[10:05] <Rootbrian> don't feed the troll. :P
[10:05] <demo> people wherer are you form?
[10:06] <blazemore> !offtopic | demo
[10:06] <Rootbrian> I want win 100
[10:06] <demo> good
[10:06] <MestreLion> blazemore: that will install the dependencies only, correct? I need to run dpkg again to install the deb?
[10:06] <demo> the windows has been open source?
[10:06] <demo> the windows nt source code?
[10:06] <Rootbrian> demo nope, locked down, walled guarden
[10:06] <mestari> win6 is open source
[10:06] <demo> who konw?
[10:06] <demo> yes
[10:06] <demo> dos has
[10:06] <blazemore> MestreLion: Run dpkg -i filename/deb to attempt to install the .deb. That will fail because of dependencies. apt-get -f install will automatically install the deb for you with dependencies
[10:06] <FloodBot1> demo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:06] <demo> i don't konw
[10:07] <Rootbrian> juniour: your welcome
[10:07] <demo> i first use IRC
[10:07] <demo> i can't setup
[10:07] <Rootbrian> demo: ?
[10:07] <krofna> apt-get upgrade got stuck on "cryptsetup: WARNING: target cryptswap1 has a random key, skipped". What should I do?
[10:07] <Harry_123> me too
[10:07] <cornernote> i think i'll have to wait for mydumper project to address the bugs
[10:07] <MestreLion> blazemore: sudo apt-get install -f is listing only the dependencies, not the deb
[10:07] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: *he* doesn't say where he's creating his config file.  If you want to create your own config file, you should look at the supervisord documentation to find out where you should keep it: http://supervisord.org/configuration.html
[10:07] <krofna> Its like this for past 5 mins
[10:07] <cornernote> thanks everyone for helping
[10:07] <demo> the irc is very good
[10:07] <mestari> how can i use IRC with linux?
[10:07] <demo> many people
[10:07] <blazemore> MestreLion: Attempt to install the deb first, then run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[10:07] <demo> no
[10:07] <demo> with windows
[10:07] <demo> it's diffcult
[10:07] <FloodBot1> demo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:07] <demo> mIRC
[10:07] <demo> is Beep
[10:08] <blazemore> can someone kick demo, seriously
[10:08] <mestari> mIRC? okay
[10:08] <blazemore> that's good too
[10:08] <demo> what's mean?
[10:08] <MestreLion> blazemore: that's what I did... and apt-get install -f is only listing the dependencies that the deb has, it does not mention the deb itself
[10:08] <Rootbrian> kick the troll please.
[10:08] <blazemore> MestreLion: Did you let it install the packages it wanted to?
[10:08] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: yes.
[10:09] <demo> the people where are you form?
[10:09] <MestreLion> blazemore: not yes... I'm in the confirmation question
[10:09] <demo> just form USA?
[10:09] <MestreLion> blazemore: not yet*
[10:09] <mestari> is there any ubuntu developers in this channel ?
[10:09] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: I myself was looking at http://supervisord.org/running.html#adding-a-program
[10:09] <blazemore> MestreLion: It'll install the deb after
[10:09] <blazemore> !offtopic | demo
[10:09] <Rootbrian> demo: world wide
[10:09] <demo> yes
[10:09] <demo> word wide
[10:09] <demo> like wike
[10:09] <juniour> Rootbrain i think i fixed h problem
[10:09] <demo> the irc is history?
[10:09] <MestreLion> humm, good. I wish it would mention so before the confirmation question :)
[10:09] <demo> in liunx
[10:09] <Rootbrian> demo: this is a support channel.
[10:09] <demo> or other os
[10:10] <demo> yes
[10:10] <demo> thi is channel
[10:10] <blazemore> Demo you have two choices. Shut up, or leave.
[10:10] <mestari> demo: pls dont troll
[10:10] <demo> the irc server is what?
[10:10] <blazemore> !op
[10:10] <MestreLion> mestari: a lot of ubuntu users are also developers, why?
[10:10] <Rootbrian> demo, stop. Now.
[10:10] <demo> ok
[10:10] <bkerensa> Ok guys lets calm down
[10:10] <mestari> MestreLion: I just thinked is tehe any ubuntu developer channel or is it this
[10:11] <blazemore> /ignore demo is probably easier hehe
[10:11] <Rootbrian> I agree blazemore
[10:11] <MestreLion> mestari: there is #ubuntu-dev I guess... or something similar...
[10:11] <mestari> MestreLion: ok, thanks
[10:11] <bkerensa> !coc | blazemore
[10:12] <MestreLion> mestari: but I think questions about development for ubuntu can also be answered here... unless it's a language-specific question, than you would be better served in the language's channel
[10:12] <jpds> MestreLion / mestari: #ubuntu-devel
[10:12] <mestari> MestreLion: yes
[10:13] <demo> the irc is good
[10:13] <bkerensa> demo: I just talked to you about this.
[10:13] <Rootbrian> demo, what is your agenda?
[10:13] <bkerensa> demo: this is a support channel.
[10:13] <demo> i konw
[10:13] <bkerensa> Rootbrian: I'm addressing this.
[10:13] <demo> i see is joke
[10:14] <Rootbrian> bkerensa: okay
[10:15] <roracle> okay so how can i put Unity at the bottom of the screen?  it's the only UI problem i have
[10:15] <roracle> when i use multiple monitors, i prefer moving my mouse between screens, and unity is in the way visually
[10:15] <Rootbrian> roracle I believe it's latched to the left. It can be hidden though.
[10:15] <livingdaylight> I'm using gnome-shell. Is it possible like one used to previously in gnome2 to have the time/date give time of various locations?
[10:15] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: the supervisord mailing list will have several people more familiar with supervisord.  It is a rather specialized piece of software that most people will not be familiar with.  You can join that mailing list, and search their archives at http://lists.supervisord.org/mailman/listinfo/supervisor-users.  If you're going to use supervisord with any seriousness, you should subscribe to that mailing list.
[10:16] <roracle> i don't want it hidden, it's nice the way it is
[10:16] <Touhou11> roracle: I don't think it's configurable like that
[10:16] <roracle> i just want it on bottom
[10:16] <roracle> what?
[10:16] <roracle> i find that very very very very very very very very very very very very very very hard to believe
[10:16] <roracle> just saying, you know...open source stuff is hardly "locked in and you can't change it"
[10:16] <Volatile> yo. When I try to watch flash videos on youtube in youtube without my AC adapter, my laptop gets a DRM error and segfaults. Why/what to do?
[10:16] <bkerensa> !justask | roracle
[10:16] <Rootbrian> roracle you might want to use a different window manager then.
[10:17] <roracle> i don't want to.  i want to use Unity, but i want it at the bottom
[10:17] <Touhou11> roracle: It's not locked in, someone could recode it you're right... but the Ubuntu devs want people to use it on the left
[10:17] <demo> who can tell me the irc people number?
[10:17] <Volatile> roracle: rotate your screen. Problem fixed. ;þ
[10:17] <demo> just than 100000?
[10:17] <roracle> lol
[10:17] <jpds> !ot | demo
[10:17] <roracle> well the Ubuntu devs are NOT the ubuntu users
[10:17] <Touhou11> roracle: Just use XFCE, makes everything easier
[10:18] <demo> ok
[10:18] <demo> talk Ubuntu
[10:18] <TheLordOfTime> roracle, you could ask them to add that as a customizeable feature :P
[10:18] <demo> people it's work
[10:18] <TheLordOfTime> roracle, feature requests :P
[10:18] <MestreLion> roracle: you mean the launcher, not the panel, right?
[10:18] <Touhou11> roracle: Yeah, because the user all wanted the Amazon search feature /sarcasm
[10:18] <MestreLion> roracle: check here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[10:18] <roracle> lol true dat
[10:18] <roracle> yeah that method doesn't work in 12.10
[10:19] <Rootbrian> roracle best to use 12.04.
[10:19] <roracle> or at least i haven't been able to get it to work.  can't find the plugin, though it says i have it lol
[10:19] <rupran> good morning guys, do you know why there are no debug packages for the i386/amd64-architecture available for the kernel versions 3.2.0-{30,31,32} at http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ ? is this on purpose or just due to oversight?
[10:19] <Rootbrian> roracle: possible bug?
[10:19] <Volatile> so, any thoughts on how on earth flash can cause me a kernel panic? Seems kinda odd. (And has only appeared on ubuntu.)
[10:19] <TheLordOfTime> roracle, http://askubuntu.com/a/33674/10616  <-- look at that answer there
[10:20] <MestreLion> Rootbrian: not a but... moving the launcher was never an official or supported feature
[10:20] <TheLordOfTime> roracle, Rootbrian:  Mark stated it probably wont happen because its not part of their larger design goals
[10:20] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[10:20] <Volatile> \☃/
[10:21] <Rootbrian> Volatile: it did the same thing when recording a video two days ago to me. It said "restarting system due to security issue" and it forced a reboot.
[10:21] <MestreLion> TheLordOfTime: that was my answer, which I already posted to him :P
[10:21] <roracle> For crying out loud.  I like the new Ubuntu and all, and it's perfect in so many ways, but ONE TINY LITTLE THING I am not allowed to change or have official support for wanting to change it?  The one...ONE single thing that I would like to change is the ONE thing they've made a huge hubub deal about???????
[10:21] <TheLordOfTime> MestreLion, i'm assuming he's not reading ;)
[10:21] <TheLordOfTime> roracle, mind keeping the attitude polite?
[10:21] <Rootbrian> roracle: that's the reason why I don't use unity anymore.
[10:22] <roracle> I'm quite polite.  I'm not the one 'not supporing' a feature that should be supported lol
[10:22] <Volatile> Rootbrian: my computer stopped X, whined about something with DRM, and when I pressed anything, I got a core dump and kernel panic. No restarts here, just pure brokenness. :)
[10:22] <MestreLion> roracle: you can always disable the launcher and install another customizable launcher, like AWN
[10:22] <roracle> I think they did it on purpose.  Yeah, I'll get involved with this so-called "design" process.
[10:22] <Rootbrian> Volatile: probably an issue with adobe flash.
[10:22] <roracle> I used to think Mandrake did things on purpose just to irritate us, now it's Ubuntu doing it.  ^_^;;;
[10:23] <Rootbrian> Volatile: or X fighting with flash player.
[10:23] <bkerensa> roracle: the volunteers here have attempted to help you and unfortunately you do not like the answers they have offered unless you have another support question please keep in mind this is a support channel
[10:23] <MestreLion> roracle: Ubuntu is a distribuition. You can still customize it any way you want
[10:24] <MestreLion> roracle: if you don't like the lack of customizability of the launcher, don't use the launcher.
[10:24] <roracle> bkerensa: your attitude is ridiculous toward me.
[10:24] <mestari> i think debian is better than ubuntu
[10:25] <roracle> i'm trying to customize it, but it seems i'm locked in.  none of those are "solutions" to my problem, they're "work around"s
[10:25] <Rootbrian> roracle: let's be calm. Might want to take it up with canonical.
[10:25] <bkerensa> !guidelines | roracle
[10:25] <nsanee> I wanted to install ubuntu 12.10 using Wubi, but it behaves weird since it doesn't download anything, prompts for a reboot. After reboot it starts installation but freezes soon after, since it didn't download anything, nor did I have any ISO on my hdd. Tried downloading 12.10 ISO to the same folder, also doesn't help. Any ideas?
[10:26] <lesshaste> in precise I get Package biber is not available, but is referred to by another package. . Is this a bug?
[10:26] <roracle> okay so what's a link i can go to so that i might involve myself in commenting on the design process?
[10:26] <MestreLion> roracle: You have a much more powerful solution: CHOICE. If the launcher does not please you, *use another launcher* ! There are several available in Software Center
[10:26] <Rootbrian> lesshaste: search for it within ubuntu software centre or synaptic if it's installed.
[10:26] <Touhou11> roracle: Canonical have been quite closed about the design process these days... it's their way or the high-way typically. I suggest using an alternative more configurable desktop if you don't like Unity
[10:26] <MestreLion> roracle: you are not "locked in" to that launcher, or to anything in Ubuntu
[10:26] <lesshaste> Rootbrian, I did apt-cache search biber.. is that the same?
[10:26] <bkerensa> roracle: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1200 or speak with mhall119 on IRC.
[10:27] <Rootbrian> lesshaste: probably.
[10:27] <lesshaste> Rootbrian, bug... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/biblatex/+bug/995447
[10:27] <bkerensa> Touhou11: that is not a fair assessment... Contributors who work on Development get plenty of input.  If you wan't to discuss that though I suggest taking it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:28] <cnf> anyone know how i can get the mac address of an interface with libvirt python bindings?
[10:28] <roracle> thanks.  i appreciate the offer of using a different launcher, but as i said i like unity.  the aesthetics of it are amazing, it's just in the wrong position.  i'll contact this "Shuttleworth" character and see what he says
[10:28] <Rootbrian> lesshaste: that blows. :(
[10:28] <lesshaste> yep
[10:28] <lesshaste> ubuntu is not what it used to be
[10:28] <blackshirt> !info tor
[10:28] <lesshaste> I don't think they fix bugs any more
[10:28] <MaTTFuRY> could i use wubi to install backtrack from source image?
[10:28] <iceroot> MaTTFuRY: backtrack is not supported here
[10:28] <Touhou11> bkerensa: Apart from when overwhelming user opinion is ignored, like with the Amazon Search fiasco
[10:28] <jpds> lesshaste: Hmm, wut.
[10:29] <lesshaste> blackshirt, and why would you want to use tor? :)
[10:29] <bkerensa> !#ubuntu | Touhou11
[10:29] <lesshaste> jpds, have you ever reported a bug that was fixed?
[10:29] <Touhou11> !guidelines | brekensa
[10:29] <MestreLion> roracle: if you don't like the launcher, disable it and install  something else (like AWN). If you don't like Unity in general, disable it and install something else (like Cinnamon). If you don't like Ubuntu in general, use another distro :P
[10:29] <jpds> lesshaste: Several times.
[10:29] <MaTTFuRY> says the guy with the nick iceroot ;p
[10:29] <MestreLion> roracle: as you see, there's no lock-in
[10:29] <lesshaste> jpds, can you give one example in the last 2 years?
[10:29] <iceroot> MaTTFuRY: ?
[10:29] <roracle> if i want to use Unity, i'm locked into their unity
[10:29] <roracle> so yeah i am ;)
[10:29] <gordonjcp> if you don't like Unity, it's probably because you fear change and the unfamiliar.  You may be a little autistic
[10:29] <blackshirt> !info tor-sasl
[10:30] <roracle> if i wanted to use XFCE or KDE then i would never have come in here, i would have just installed them
[10:30] <gordonjcp> roracle: stop inventing problems
[10:30] <blackshirt> !tor
[10:30] <Touhou11> !guidelines | gordonjcp
[10:30] <roracle> i'm not the inventor of Unity!
[10:30] <gordonjcp> roracle: if you don't like it use something else
[10:30] <siavoshkc> What is Unity?
[10:30] <rupran> any thoughts on why linux-image-dbgsym packages in the ddeb repo are missing for 3.2.0-{30,31,32}?
[10:30] <Guest2628> op me plis
[10:30] <bkerensa> roracle: I will ask you one last time to please take offtopic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:30] <gordonjcp> siavoshkc: it's the desktop environment used in "conventional" unity
[10:30] <the_dark_knight> hi, I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/ApbNsLKQLiTEB1oD8B88/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf . Now when I do sudo service supervisor restart it restarts, but I don't wee my Worker.py running when I see it like "ps -ef | grep
[10:30] <siavoshkc> is the one to create games?
[10:30] <gordonjcp> !unity | siavoshkc
[10:30] <Guest2628> op me plis
[10:31] <MestreLion> roracle: you don't need to be the inventor! It's open source! Change the code all the way you want
[10:31] <jpds> lesshaste: Sure, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1068921 was fixed a few days ago.
[10:31] <lo> #fuck
[10:31] <Diamondcite> lo: You are not properly recognized as a member of the ubuntu irc staff?
[10:31] <roracle> sorry, didn't know the design of an operating system that an IRC channel is talking about was considered off topic.  maybe i should speak of lord of the rings and tell the story of margaret thatcher from an American point of view and that will be more on topic.
[10:31] <siavoshkc> !notunity
[10:31] <leotr> hi! what are limitations of wubi? is it so bad?
[10:32] <siavoshkc> !notunity|siavoshkc
[10:32] <Rootbrian> why can't people use the proper channels. -.-
[10:32] <yudha> jembut
[10:32] <cairne> leotr: I have used wubi sevearl times, if you don't feel like partioning off your hdd then its pretty easy but there is a max hdd space you can give to it
[10:32] <blackshirt> what is mean for rtt, round trip time, ?
[10:33] <dwarder> by default ext4 fs is mounted read only?
[10:33] <dwarder> how do i make it rw?
[10:33] <jpds> lesshaste: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/930962 recently got a workaround.
[10:33] <gordonjcp> blackshirt: how long is a piece of string?
[10:33] <dwarder> i have a usb hdd
[10:33] <leotr> caime: seems like okay... what about chmod-like commands, will they work?
[10:33] <jpds> lesshaste: It affected me, and I got a fix. So please don't talk nonsense about not fixing bugs.
[10:33] <siavoshkc> where can i find my unity version?
[10:33] <Volatile> Rootbrian: probably, yes. Strange that it would lead to a kernel panic, though. Haven't had one of those caused by software error ever before.
[10:33] <lesshaste> jpds, a) I am impressed you got things fixed and b) it's not nonsense
[10:33] <VlanY> hi guys, could someone help me with 12.10 ??  I would like to know how i can get the same fading effect that there is on 12.04 by default
[10:34] <lesshaste> jpds, I have reported a lot of bugs and they just languish mostly
[10:34] <jpds> lesshaste: Such as?
[10:34] <the_dark_knight> hi guys, I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/u8qTdIxF3vFRPlMY49YB/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf . Now when I do sudo service supervisor restart it restarts, but I don't see my Worker.py running when I see it like "ps -ef | grep Worker.py" . basically I want *numprocs* number of gearman workers to be always up and running. how do I do that? please help!
[10:34] <cairne> VlanY: what do you mean fading effect?
[10:34] <bkerensa> lesshaste: do you have a support question?
[10:34] <lesshaste> bkerensa, good point :)
[10:34] <lesshaste> for some reason pdflatex can't find biblatex.sty. What is the environment variable that controls where it looks in linux?
[10:34] <lesshaste> bkerensa, ^^
[10:35] <lesshaste> jpds, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/884210
[10:36] <lesshaste> jpds, that's a typical example. Nothing happens
[10:36] <Rootbrian> wubi is best used with internal hard disks, as far as I know.
[10:36] <jpds> lesshaste: Kernel bug, has to be fixed by the upsteam kernel developers.
[10:36] <Rootbrian> sorry if I didn't get the username, things don't get cached on jmirc.
[10:36] <domie> how visible is the performance difference between wubi and real partition on hdd?
[10:36] <lesshaste> jpds, right.. so that's mostly the reaction I get... someone upstream ought to fix it and then nothing
[10:36] <bkerensa> lesshaste: do you have the meta package for biblatex installed?
[10:36] <siavoshkc> what does upstream means here?
[10:37] <siavoshkc> what does upstream mean here?
[10:37] <VlanY> cairne: when you iconize smth on 12.10 the fading effect is much slower, i would like it to be fast as in 12.04 if possible
[10:37] <cairne> i thought wubi only works on internal, since its a windows installer and is pretty much a virtual disk isnt it?
[10:37] <jpds> lesshaste: And you have to install one of the packages in: $ apt-file search biblatex.sty
[10:37] <bkerensa> lesshaste: thats a upstream bug
[10:37] <Rootbrian> domie: I'm not really sure. Wubi uses an image I believe. Not as good as an actual partiiton.
[10:37] <jpds> lesshaste: So forward it upsteam!
[10:37] <MestreLion> siavoshkc: "upstream" in open-source development means the original developer of a given package
[10:37] <the_dark_knight> kushal_kumaran: need your expertise.
[10:37] <lesshaste> jpds, sure but this was my point
[10:37] <jpds> lesshaste: Anyway, you probably want to install: texlive-bibtex-extra.
[10:37] <bkerensa> lesshaste: notably it is reported upstream to Red Hat since its a Red Hat bug so lets not blame Ubuntu.
[10:38] <the_dark_knight> I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/u8qTdIxF3vFRPlMY49YB/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf . Now when I do sudo service supervisor restart it restarts, but I don't see my Worker.py running when I see it like "ps -ef | grep Worker.py" . basically I want *numprocs* number of gearman workers to be always up and running. how do I do that? please help!
[10:38] <domie> Rootbrian, yeah, it uses a root.disk file, but im just wondering how much faster it would move if it was installed on a real partition
[10:38] <lesshaste> bkerensa, thanks the problem is that I had a strange mix of tlmgr installed and apt-get installed stuff it seems. I can fix it now I think. Thanks
[10:38] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: you will find people familiar with supervisord on the supervisord mailing list at http://lists.supervisord.org/mailman/listinfo/supervisor-users
[10:38] <lesshaste> bkerensa, the point is just that red hat fix things and ubuntu passes it upstream :)
[10:38] <rupran> i really need the linux-image-dbgsym packages for a project of mine, preferably for the most recent kernel in precise (3.2.0-32), but the ones for 3.2.0-30 through -32 are not available in the ddeb repo... is that a bug?
[10:38] <Rootbrian> domie: probably very fast, as fast as the USB speed is, 48 megabytes per second (480 megabits is the rating)
[10:39] <siavoshkc> MestreLion: can you explain more please?
[10:39] <bkerensa> lesshaste: that is a upstream bug and Red Hat marked it WONTFIX
[10:39] <lesshaste> bkerensa, I saw :(
[10:39] <lesshaste> bkerensa, so I suppose ubuntu should do the same?
[10:39] <Rootbrian> domie: I believe USB is faster than IDE/PATA/ATA.
[10:39] <bkerensa> lesshaste: Plenty of bugs are fixed every single cycle... I fixed about 10-15 a cycle myself.
[10:39] <MestreLion> blazemore: ok, it looks like the deb was installed. what would be the command to check its status? (since apt-cache policy works only for repo packages, not deb ones)
[10:40] <cairne> VlanY: I think you can adjust things within the compiz manager but the delay may be a graphics card issue
[10:40] <VlanY> cairne: even tought i used 12.04 with the same hardware?
[10:41] <Rootbrian> vlany it depends on the GPU speed of the graphics card too.
[10:41] <MestreLion> siavoshkc: the "upstream" of a given software is the original developer of that software. When we say a bug is an "upstream bug" it means the bug is present in the original code, it is not a fault of ubuntu's integration
[10:41] <lesshaste> bkerensa, that's great! thanks
[10:41] <cairne> VlanY: I know they made some changes to how unity works for 12.10 as they did away with the 2d animation, its possible that its using a 'virtual' gpu through your cpu and not using your gpu
[10:41] <lesshaste> bkerensa, it is true that ubuntu has fewer devs than red hat though right?
[10:42] <MestreLion> siavoshkc: and "forward upstream" means "instead of just reporting the bug to Ubuntu, also report it to the original developer"
[10:42] <bkerensa> lesshaste: yes and I can't discuss this here if you wan't to discuss it please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:42] <siavoshkc> Ubuntu is based on Red Hat?
[10:42] <lesshaste> bkerensa, sure
[10:42] <cairne> VlanY: not sure if this is what you are talking about but this might help http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-speed-up-ubuntu-12-10-minimize-animation
[10:42] <nazghoul> hey
[10:43] <Rootbrian> ubuntu is based on debian.
[10:43] <VlanY> cairne: it's weird cause when i drag arund a window it's very smooth... btw i'm using the integrated VGA on i5 processor (should be ati HD3000 or smth like that) how can i see if it's actually using that GPU?
[10:43] <nazghoul> how i can make xchat shows me the users in left or right panel
[10:43] <MestreLion> siavoshkc: no, Ubuntu is based on Debian, altough some software in the repository may have been developed by Red Hat
[10:43] <nazghoul> or i cant?
[10:44] <siavoshkc> Thats what I thought
[10:44] <MestreLion> nazghoul: no idea... better asked at #xchat
[10:44] <siavoshkc> Thanks
[10:44] <cairne> VlanY: did you install the ati drivers, if its one of those cpu/gpu combo's like for laptops and now some desktops, i have not encountered that before, not sure how to switch to that
[10:45] <dzup> hllo i install the ubuntu precise kernel that runs optimuze for multimedia apps, i can not recall whats the name of that but my cpu just runs way too hot, how can i disable and return to the normal kernel? am using presice amd64
[10:45] <VlanY> cairne: no i didnt install any proprietary or custom drivers so far, i just installed 12.10 yesterday. Btw it's a desktop PC, not a laptop. Do you think i would have to install custom drivers?
[10:46] <Rootbrian> dzup: do you have a kernel selection before booting?
[10:46] <dzup> Rootbrian, i erase all previous kernel, sorry i dont
[10:47] <kushal_kumaran> the_dark_knight: if you want to use upstart, try a config file like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326072/ (let's call it gearman-worker.conf), and then run sudo start gearman-worker GRMAN_INST=1
[10:47] <asdfDude> Hello guys, im trying to recover my external drive, but no luck so far. Can you tell me whether im doing it right? (dont want to spam the chat so here is a link: http://pastebin.com/REmHt0r8 )
[10:47] <Rootbrian> dzup: I recommend, If you don't see the grub screen, press and hold shift for a few seconds to get the menu, then select Previous Linux Versions.
[10:47] <cairne> VlanY: I would install the ATI drivers and see if that improves it, may just be that its not fully using opengl through your card
[10:48] <Rootbrian> dzup: wait for the next kernel update to be released and then, ensure you don't remove the older ones.
[10:48] <ecataranciuc> asdfDude: It looks like it is dead.
[10:48] <dzup> root____2, i dont have any previos kernels, i erase them all old kernels, i just want to install the amd64 regular kernel, not the one to run video stuff because my cpu runs way too hot
[10:48] <dzup> Rootbrian,
[10:49] <OpenSorce> I have an old old tablet, I want to update it from 8.04 to 9.10. (No I don't want anything newer than 9.1 just trust me) Is there an easy way to do this?
[10:49] <MestreLion> dzup: so open software center and install linux , linux-image, linux-headers, etc
[10:49] <Rootbrian> asdfDude: if it's making a click click click click click *pause* click click click click click, it's dead.
[10:49] <VlanY> cairne: ok, but you think i should also install any motherboard drivers? i don't even think i can find any...
[10:49] <cairne> VlanY: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202857/cant-install-ati-proprietary-drivers-in-12-10 seems there have been some issues with 12.10 and ati cards, you may need to wait for a fix
[10:50] <Rootbrian> MestreLion /slapshead why didn't I think of that.
[10:50] <asdfDude> yes, but i can still recover the files with Photorec (but names and folders are not preserved) or view them with another recovery software (expensive )
[10:50] <ecataranciuc> asdfDude: Have you tried to copy them directly?
[10:50] <Dino901> I have broken my byobu config somehow and cant get it fixed.  Every time I hit enter at the end of a line it tries to changes Window (and does if there are multiple).  Have deleted .screenrc and .byobu and problem still recurs.  Anyone have any ideas for me?
[10:50] <MestreLion> dzup: also, it's *very* risky to remove old kernels before you fully test the new ones... specially if using a custom kernel. Why the hell did you do that?
[10:50] <cairne> VlanY: I believe if you go into the update screen it should ask if you want to use ati properitary drivers, could try that
[10:51] <Rootbrian> asdfDude: I recommend seeing if linux can see the drive and mount it at all via a usb enclosure.
[10:51] <dzup> MestreLion, trying to save space and inexperience i guess
[10:51] <asdfDude> the drive isnt mounted automatically when i plug it in, but its listed under  proc/partitions
[10:51] <ahtmly2k> HELP: I have just done a clean install of 12.10.. Everything's fine but now I can't access/mount my other drives.. Any workaround?
[10:52] <MestreLion> dzup: it's not inexperience, since inexperienced users don't even know how to remove a kernel
[10:52] <OpenSorce> I want to upgrade from 8.04 to just 9.1. The update manager is only offering 10.04, is there an easy way to upgrade to 9.10?
[10:52] <VlanY> cairne: i will do that as soon as i come back home. Thank you man, you've been really helpful :)
[10:52] <Rootbrian> opensorce: I don't think so.
[10:52] <cairne> VlanY: Hopefully it will help, I'm still on 12.04 on my desktop, but not sitting at that atm, the most my laptop can handle is lubuntu lol
[10:53] <OpenSorce> Of course not, what was I thinking... thanks for the reply rootbrian
[10:53] <jrib> OpenSorce: both of those versions are no longer supported.  You should upgrade to a supported version (for example 10.04 is supported until April 2013 on the desktop)
[10:53] <ahtmly2k> I get a "Unable to mount ahtmly2k_3tb_001" error message and "Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/ahtmly2k' failed: Operation not supported"
[10:53] <MestreLion> dzup: and saving space does not make sense either... each kernel is like 30~50MB... you need 20 kernels for 1GB, which is still very small if you're dealing with multimedia files and apps
[10:54] <Rootbrian> opensorce: 12.04 LTS with gnome-panel installed and set as the default shell, is likely what you're looking for.
[10:54] <MestreLion> OpenSorce: 9.10, really?
[10:54] <cairne> I seem to be in the miniority but I have no issue with Unity
[10:54] <dzup> i guess i gone go back to google ...looks like i have to search this one myself ...i rmember using apr-get install monolitip-kernel or something like that, i dont have graphic stuff, this box is only console
[10:54] <OpenSorce> Old tablet, proc and pen are not supported well past 9.10....
[10:55] <MestreLion> dzup: console-only? Then why are you installing a custom multimedia kernel on it?
[10:55] <Rootbrian> opensorce: resistive touch screen?
[10:55] <atiti> holy moly, ppl still run 8.04
[10:56] <OpenSorce> Nah, Fujitsu stylus on an old Compaq with a Transmeta Crusoe 5800 proc
[10:56] <MestreLion> OpenSorce: any reason to prefer 9.10 over 10.04 (which is an LTS) ?
[10:56] <VlanY> cairne: i upgraded to 12.10 cause i was experiencing system crashes overy once in a while with 12.04 and i've been told that the 3.2 kernel had some issue with Ivey Bridge processors
[10:56] <nazghoul> hey guys i have a question.i've downloaded the real xchat for ubuntu (not the gnome one)
[10:56] <nazghoul> and now im wondering how i can make fast way to run it instead every time run it from terminal console?
[10:57] <jrib> OpenSorce: you've tried 12.04 on the device?
[10:57] <MestreLion> OpenSorce: 10.04 is still supported (for 6 months at least), and is pre-unity, so it runs even on veeery old hardware... I see no point usign anything before it
[10:57] <jrib> nazghoul: what do you mean by "downloaded the real xchat"?
[10:57] <OpenSorce> jrib, 12.04 does not support this proc
[10:57] <jrib> OpenSorce: what processor?
[10:57] <OpenSorce> Nah, Fujitsu stylus on an old Compaq with a Transmeta Crusoe 5800 proc
[10:58] <cairne> VlanY: Oh ok, I don't really know i'm still on core duo lol
[10:58] <MestreLion> nazghoul: err... using dash or pin it to launcher?
[10:58] <OpenSorce> Westrelion, yeah I tried 10.04. The pen won't work. Can't find any documentation of anyone getting it to work past 9.10
[10:58] <Rootbrian> opensorce: I have a fujitsu lifebook p1500 :D
[10:59] <jrib> OpenSorce: that seems like it would just be a kernel issue if it's true
[10:59] <OpenSorce> Rootbrian, cool
[10:59] <VlanY> cairne: btw i don't know what you think but i'm really upset with the new policy of 12.10 that enforces the partnership with Amazon
[10:59] <MestreLion> VlanY: enforces?
[10:59] <cairne> VlanY: you can uninstall the shopping lens
[10:59] <dzup> MestreLion, its okay dude, i can not explain you how i get into this, am asking how to resolved, thank you , its okay, i will keep searching how to enable my default amd64 kernel
[11:00] <nazghoul> MestreLion ,how i can pin it to launcher
[11:00] <OpenSorce> jrib, the kernel in 12.04 is for i686. Do you know what happens when you throw i686 code at a i586 chip? :-P
[11:00] <nazghoul> im new to ubuntu :)
[11:00] <MestreLion> dzup: I already told you how: use the software center
[11:00] <dzup> dont have any x-stuff, i need apt-get command
[11:00] <Rootbrian> opensorce: the touch screen and buttons don't work with any linux, only some of the function keys, no touch screen support either in any linux I tried on it. Same boat as you.
[11:00] <dzup> and the name of the default amd64 kernel i guess
[11:00] <jrib> OpenSorce: my suggestion is that you just rebuild the kernel with the appropriate options.  Or use a different distro (maybe debian?).  You should not be running an unsupported version
[11:00] <nazghoul> jrib ,well i've used before xchat-gnome which is different project then the original xchat for linux
[11:00] <MestreLion> dzup: sudo apt-get install linux linux-image linux-hearders
[11:00] <cairne> VlanY: just run this sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-lens-shopping
[11:00] <OpenSorce> Anyway, I was just hoping there was a config file for update manager that I didn't know about.
[11:01] <nazghoul> i've downloaded the original one ,if you dont like "the real one"
[11:01] <nazghoul> :D
[11:01] <nazghoul> so how i can pin it to launcher?
[11:01] <OpenSorce> Rootbrian, yes it does: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1325644
[11:01] <MestreLion> nazghoul: right-click it
[11:01] <VlanY> cairne: yeah i know you can disable it, but i don't know...  https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
[11:01] <OpenSorce> jrib, thanks for the suggestion
[11:01] <MestreLion> nazghoul: right-click it > "Lock to launcher"
[11:02] <nazghoul> hmm cant
[11:02] <cairne> VlanY: don't disable it just remove it, that would be my best suggestion, i believe if you just remove the shopping lens then the other lens's will still work
[11:02] <ahtmly2k> hmn.. still no answer..
[11:02] <ahtmly2k> bye
[11:02] <Rootbrian> opensorce tried it with 12.04 LTS, didn't work even with 10.04 Lts. :P
[11:03] <MestreLion> nazghoul: both xchat and xchat-gnome are gtk apps, not console ones. You can use the terminal, but you don't need to. You can always use the dash (Ubuntu's "menu"), like any other software
[11:03] <OpenSorce> Rootbrian, I know... the last version the fpit driver worked with was 9.10
[11:03] <dzup> MestreLion, sudo apt-get install linux linux-image linux-headers-3.2.0-32-generic    since give me a list of availables kernel on the linux-headers deal, thats the newest, correct?
[11:03] <VlanY> cairne: ok i'll try that too :)
[11:03] <nazghoul> yes but i cant find the way to "lock in launcher"
[11:03] <nazghoul> im right clicking on it and there is another menus
[11:03] <blazemore> nazghoul: Open the app, right-click the launcher icon and choose lock to launcher
[11:04] <blazemore> (or similar)
[11:04] <OpenSorce> Anyway, I'll figure something out....
[11:04] <nazghoul> how to open the app ,when im already in the xchat?
[11:04] <blazemore> nazghoul: Is there an icon for it on the dock when it's open?
[11:04] <cairne> if you open the app, then once its on the launcher right click and lock to launcher
[11:04] <nazghoul> on the top?
[11:04] <Rootbrian> opensorce: I bid you some luck. :)
[11:04] <MestreLion> dzup: don't specify kernel versions, let apt-get pick that for you. simply linux linux-image linux-headers is enough
[11:04] <blazemore> nazghoul: No, on the dock
[11:04] <nazghoul> nope
[11:04] <moss4353432> hi room
[11:04] <nazghoul> there isnt
[11:05] <nazghoul> i runned the xchat from terminal.
[11:05] <Rootbrian> moss4354324 hey
[11:05] <OpenSorce> Rootbrian, thanks man! I set it up on the same model tablet for someone else a few years back. Sadly, update manager wants me to have 10.04 this time around
[11:05] <dzup> MestreLion, actually does http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326124/
[11:06] <MestreLion> nazghoul: so what? there's still an icon for its window in the launcher
[11:06] <nazghoul> im confused
[11:06] <nazghoul> cuz i cant find it
[11:06] <nazghoul> i know what you mean with "lock in launcher"
[11:06] <nazghoul> but i cant make it for the xchat
[11:06] <Rootbrian> opensorce: maybe compiling the drivers for the later kernel might work in later distros?
[11:06] <MestreLion> dzup: it's normal. that's apt-get selecting a version for you
[11:07] <dzup> MestreLion, but doesnt do anything like this:   sudo apt-get install linux linux-image linux-headers |  pastebinit
[11:07] <dzup> E: Package 'linux-headers' has no installation candidate
[11:07] <dzup> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326124/
[11:07] <dzup> macuarro@alex:~$
[11:07] <Rootbrian> opensorce: then again, never have done such a thing myself anyways.
[11:07] <OpenSorce> One guy has made a kernel module that works but only in Arch. I don't want arch and I doubt this old proc will be very good at compiling
[11:08] <Rootbrian> opensorce: it would take quite a while to process it all.
[11:08] <OpenSorce> It's a vanity thing. I have a tablet with a chip designed in part by Linus himself. It's going to run Linux and it's going to work well! lol
[11:09] <MestreLion> dzup: sudo apt-get install linux linux-headers-3.2.0-33-generic
[11:09] <nazghoul> ok i've tried.i quit the xchat and icons remove.
[11:09] <nazghoul> so i started it from terminal "xchat"
[11:09] <Rootbrian> opensorce: I guess they didn't think of compiling newer drivers for later kernels.
[11:10] <OpenSorce> Rootbrian, no need. Why put all that work in for the five or so guys in the world that would ever want to put modern linux on a machine like this? :-)
[11:10] <dzup> MestreLion, along with linux-image am guessing that last command right?
[11:11] <Rootbrian> opensorce: a vintage machine to be exact. :)
[11:11] <MestreLion> dzup: no need... linux automatically pulls linux-image for you
[11:11] <OpenSorce> Rootbrian, I'll get it working... or I'll stick a pcmcia nic in it and make it my new router :-P
[11:11] <cairne> OpenSorce: What machine is it?
[11:12] <dzup> MestreLion, ok, 10-4 sir, 0-33-generic is not in my repos, but i got 32-generic am using that one
[11:13] <OpenSorce> cairne, an old Compaq TC1000 with a Transmeta Crusoe 5800 proc
[11:13] <Rootbrian> opensorce: what about a usb mouse, or usb laptop style trackpad?
[11:13] <MestreLion> dzup: now reboot and you may see a list of kernels
[11:14] <dzup> MestreLion, roger that, brb thank you sir
[11:14] <Rootbrian> opensorce: awesome tablet pc. Save value as the fujitsu.
[11:14] <OpenSorce> Rootbrian, It has the little old school pencil eraser type mouse thing on it's keyboard... I just want the stylus to work
[11:15] <cairne> OpenSorce: its amazing that use to be cutting edge specs not to long ago
[11:15] <mIRC717ITA> ciao
[11:15] <Rootbrian> opensorce: same with me, but I've gotten used to it over time. The vaio P-series $900 netbook was the same. :P
[11:15] <mIRC717ITA> !yava
[11:16] <cairne> back when people didnt think the tablet was going to be viable and that it was a stupid idea to develop it, hope all those tech writers are eating their words on that one
[11:16] <kurus> testing
[11:17] <password2> good day
[11:17] <OpenSorce> cairne, like I said if it wasn't the chip that Linus worked on I wouldn't care so much about it
[11:17] <Rootbrian> cairne: right on. Tablets are everywhere nowadays. Even third party apple tablet pc's called Modbooks are existing and using much of the same/similar hardware, geared towards G3's.
[11:17] <cairne> OpenSorce: just the historical value of it alone makes it a worth endevor
[11:18] <OpenSorce> cairne, exactly :-P
[11:18] <password2> i was wondering if anyone can help me sort out my virtual ubuntu on my tab with remote desktop and lxde
[11:18] <cairne> OpenSorce: Just hope you have a really sturdy wall from banging your head against it as you go along tho lol
[11:18] <OpenSorce> It was a pain to put Linux on it to begin with... netboot is the only option. No media drives and it won't boot from USB
[11:19] <password2> whenever i try to start Qt i get error almost identical to this :http://scotgate.org/?p=240
[11:19] <Rootbrian> opensorce, that must have been a pain to get working.
[11:19] <OpenSorce> cairne, I'm making progress! At the moment touching the stylus to the screen causes the xserver to restart!
[11:20] <Rootbrian> opensorce: getting there. Soon the cursor will be moving.
[11:21] <Rootbrian> password2: might want to be a bit patient.
[11:21] <password2> ok
[11:21] <OpenSorce> Which I ran into that issue with the first TC1000 I setup this way years ago. I fixed it then by upgrading to 9.10 :-P Just wish it was still that easy to do
[11:21] <asmita> dasmita
[11:22] <cairne> OpenSorce: how much did they go for brand new back in the day? like 2k?
[11:22] <jrib> OpenSorce: you can still do it... It's just that it's not supported
[11:23] <Rootbrian> opensorce: I'm aware you've scoured the web for some form of a linux driver for later distros to be able to work with 10.04 and 12.04.
[11:23] <OpenSorce> cairne, Oh yeah... I was pissed when Transmeta hired Linus because I couldn't afford one of these
[11:23] <_mak> any one know an diagram application that supports line jump (http://images.visual-paradigm.com/docs/vpuml_user_guide/11/1283/33/90/arc_option_6298.png)?
[11:23] <the_dark_knight> hi guys, I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/5iQcPajumlyQsn6xJQ98/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf but I don't see it printing anythin to supervisor.txt? please help.
[11:24] <OpenSorce> jrib, all due respect... once I figure out how to get 9.10 on this thing I won't need support. It'll be the novelty tablet that I jot notes on and such
[11:25] <Rootbrian> opensorce: I meant lifebook p-1501. Lol
[11:25] <OpenSorce> Rootbrian, I'm looking at this all wrong... I just consider using my stylus as a new method of the old ctrl-alt-backspace that use to bring down Xervers!
[11:25] <jrib> OpenSorce: well just keep in mind you won't be getting securite updates.  So I wouldn't have this thing connecting to the outside world.  LTS releases by default will only prompt for upgrades to other LTS releases.  This is an option you can change in software sources (or find the file /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades (in current releases anyway)).  Then you'll have the problem that the repositories for
[11:26] <jrib> 9.10 aren't hosted anymore.  You can find them at old-releases.ubuntu.com.  See ubottu for more details.
[11:26] <jrib> !upgrade > OpenSorce
[11:26] <Rootbrian> opensorce: if it was capacitive, the screen would work right away.
[11:26] <the_dark_knight> please somebody help me out on supervisord? I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/5iQcPajumlyQsn6xJQ98/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf but I don't see it printing  anythin to supervisor.txt?
[11:26] <OpenSorce> Wow a pm from the bot... thanks :-)
[11:26] <jrib> OpenSorce: I still think if I were in your shoes I would try debian instead or try building a kernel that supports it on a supported release of ubuntu
[11:28] <OpenSorce> jrib, I realize that. What I was hoping for was a release that made the stylus work. Doesn't look like I'm gonna get that so yeah, I'll probably go back to 10.04
[11:28] <OpenSorce> Also, for the record. I have a webserver up right now running Slack 3.0 with Kernel 1.x.x on a 486
[11:29] <Rootbrian> opensorce: that's a vintage server.
[11:29] <OpenSorce> It's been up for more than 11 years and has never been compromised.
[11:29] <jrib> not sure what your point is :)
[11:30] <OpenSorce> jrib, the point is I think I'm okay security wise
[11:30] <Rootbrian> that's 1 year yonger of runtime than my 12 year old P4.
[11:30] <jrib> OpenSorce: I don't understand why you would think that.  Security issues are patched all the time
[11:30] <OpenSorce> jrib, okay
[11:31] <blazemore> OpenSorce: How do you know it's never been compromised?
[11:31] <OpenSorce> Because I invited all of my friends from #hackphreak on the Undernet to bring it down. No one could.
[11:32] <OpenSorce> It has unique security features
[11:32] <the_dark_knight> please somebody help me out on supervisord? I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/5iQcPajumlyQsn6xJQ98/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf. when I do sudo supervisorctl restart echo, it says echo: ERROR (no such process)
[11:33] <unrar> heya
[11:33] <OpenSorce> Anyway, no easy route to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 I get it. I'll figure something else out. Thanks so much for the input guys!
[11:34] <Rootbrian> opensorce: your welcome. Best of luck.
[11:34] <OpenSorce> jrib, great job encouraging new folks to use LTS versions man. Well done :-)
[11:34] <OpenSorce> Rootbrian, thanks man. I'll stop in here and give you shout if I get it working
[11:35] <gordonjcp> OpenSorce: both 9.10 is long dead
[11:35] <gordonjcp> OpenSorce: 8.04 is iirc only supported on servers
[11:35] <Ashtray777> where is the off topic channel
[11:35] <crizis> OpenSorce, you can upgrade directly to 10.04 from 8.04, though
[11:35] <Rootbrian> opensorce: I'll try to be in here more often either from a computer or my blackberry via jmirc (can't copy/paste, click links).
[11:35] <DJones> !ot | crizis
[11:35] <gordonjcp> Ashtray777: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:35] <Ashtray777> thanks
[11:36] <crizis> !ot | DJones
[11:36] <OpenSorce> gordonjcp, crizis you guys walked in on the tail end of this discussion..... but thanks for the input
[11:36] <gordonjcp> OpenSorce: why not just go with 12.04, which is the current LTS?
[11:36] <Ashtray777> !linux | crizis
[11:36] <DJones> crizis: Sorry that was meant for Ashtray777
[11:36] <the_dark_knight> please somebody help me out on supervisord? I have appended http://www.bpaste.net/raw/5iQcPajumlyQsn6xJQ98/ to /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf. when I do sudo supervisorctl restart echo, it says echo: ERROR (no such process)
[11:36] <crizis> meh, stop flooding me, everyone :p
[11:37] <OpenSorce> gordonjcp,  it's an old Compaq TC1000 with a Transmeta Crusoe 5800 proc... not supported past 10.04 and the stylus doesn't work in any version past 9.10
[11:39] <OpenSorce> Now I'm gonna leave before I have to answer that question again. You guys really are great at encouraging folks to use LTS versions though. I'm impressed.
[11:40] <AndIrc> i know unetbootin changes the filenames of the kernel but does it change the insides?
[11:40] <cool_boy> Hi there
[11:40] <cool_boy> I am not able to connect my linux 10.10 to a windows system using switch
[11:41] <cool_boy> I am able to connect all other system !
[11:41] <mrgoodcat> using a network switch?
[11:44] <mrgoodcat> apparently it does
[11:45] <cairne> cool_boy: are you trying to connect linux to a windows domain network?
[11:45] <mrgoodcat> oops wrong window. disregard
[11:46] <cool_boy> mrgoodcat : yes a newwork switch
[11:46] <cool_boy> D-Link 8 ports
[11:47] <cool_boy> cairne :yes but i tried with both linux 10.10 to windows 7 and linux 10.10 to linux 12.04
[11:47] <cool_boy> no one is working
[11:47] <cool_boy> what is working for me is linux 12.04 to windows
[11:47] <cool_boy> and windows to linux 12.04
[11:47] <cool_boy> I have  3 systems one win 7. other are linux 10.10 and 12.04
[11:48] <mrgoodcat> sounds like a firewall issue
[11:48] <cairne> cool_boy: windows will not even recognize a linux formated hdd in my experiences
[11:48] <cool_boy> mrgoodcat : firewall in linux?
[11:48] <cool_boy> cairne: there is not a problem in windows system
[11:48] <cool_boy> it is working ,i tested with ubuntu 12.04
[11:49] <mrgoodcat> what service are you specifically trying to connect? fileshares?
[11:49] <cool_boy> just the system with ubuntu 10.10 is not responding ,even if it shows connection established
[11:49] <cairne> are you just trying to tunnel in via ssh? or are you trying to link all the hdd's as network drives so you can access files from either system at any time?
[11:49] <cool_boy> I am not specifying anything , just checking with the ping command
[11:50] <cool_boy> no ssh
[11:50] <mrgoodcat> some systems do not respond to ping
[11:50] <cool_boy> why that so, mrgoodcat?
[11:50] <cairne> is it just a switch or a router/switch?
[11:51] <cool_boy> just a switch
[11:51] <cool_boy> well , I am running openerp at port 8069 in ubuntu 10.10 system
[11:51] <mrgoodcat> my system does not respond to ping requests
[11:51] <password2> is XinputExtensions , something beloning to vnc servers or clients?
[11:52] <cool_boy> If i connect this system with other , and type localhost:8069 in other system
[11:52] <dzup> MestreLion, found it, i think is running a bit better now, but looks like its a kernel bug, i add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force i915.i915_enable_rc6=1" to my grub and seems bit better now
[11:52] <cool_boy> I can see just heading on the browser tab OpenERP after it, doest forwards
[11:52] <the_dark_knight> hi, my supervisord.conf file is http://www.bpaste.net/raw/n1vx3VMfLkJZaaw3syoB/ like this. but when I execute it like given here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9301494/how-to-restart-only-certain-processes-using-supervisorctl , it gives errors of "no such prcess" please help. I am lost. can't get supervisord to work. Can't find any sample code and full procedure working from internet.
[11:53] <cairne> sorry I have never dealt with just switches, not sure how individual ip's work without a router to move traffic around
[11:53] <ianmthomasuk> Is it possible to install MySQL 5.1.65 on Ubuntu 10.04? Packages.ubuntu.com lists the current version of mysql-server-5.1 as 5.1.63-0ubuntu0.10.04.1
[11:54] <cool_boy> cairne : there is no problem in IP assigning,if it is then it resides just in conf files
[11:54] <MestreLion> dzup: that "bug" was fixed ages ago.. what ubuntu version are you using?
[11:55] <cool_boy> is there something like firewall in linux? which can prevent packets sending?
[11:55] <MestreLion> dzup: there was a lot of talk regarding i915 rc6 and pcie issues around natty and oneiric... but I think it was solved in precise
[11:55] <guang_> cool_boy:ip tables
[11:55] <nilzieee> SELinux
[11:56] <unixhacker> cool_boy, ufw
[11:56] <MestreLion> cool_boy:  ufw
[11:56] <cool_boy> how can I allow connections if there is something like that?
[11:56] <adek05> Do you know why since update to Gnome3.6 my mapping caps_lock to escape is not working anymore? Does Gnome again try to mess with my config files?
[11:56] <cairne> does the 10.04 box connect to the internet and ping out?"
[11:57] <mrgoodcat> cool_boy: sudo ufw disable (run this command at your own risk as it completely disables the firewall. NOT RECCOMENDED)
[11:57] <MestreLion> cool_boy: but, if you're behind a router (like most of us are), I reccomend using your router's firewall
[11:57] <cool_boy> no I am not on any router
[11:57] <MestreLion> mrgoodcat: nonsense... ufw is disabled by default in ubuntu
[11:57] <cairne> since hes just using a switch if that switch isnt coming from a router, he would be leaving his system wide open
[11:59] <cool_boy> what I can assure is , there is not a problem in switch,not in wires,not in windows system,not in ubuntu 12.04.......... where it is that is linux system 10.10
[11:59] <food1> Can i remove Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l from issue and issue net? I just want to hide all the banner for security reason
[11:59] <MestreLion> cool_boy: you might also try gufw, which is a basic and friendly GUI for ufw: sudo apt-get install gufw  (for pictures, see this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gufw-simple-gui-for-ufw-uncomplicated-firewall.html )
[12:00] <food1> And add anything there Like "UnknowN LinX 00 \n \l"
[12:00] <MestreLion> food1: what?
[12:01] <food1> MestreLion, I mean deleting the text "12.04.1 LTS \n \l" from /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net ...
[12:01] <Sarajevo> hello
[12:01] <Sarajevo> any ubuntu noobie chan
[12:01] <cool_boy> MestreLion : what that does?
[12:01] <Sarajevo> rookie chan
[12:01] <blazemore> #ubuntu-beginners
[12:01] <blazemore> But here is way more active
[12:02] <blazemore> Sarajevo: I think I remember you
[12:02] <Sarajevo> hey dude
[12:02] <Sarajevo> i finally switched to ubuntu
[12:02] <MestreLion> cool_boy: ok, I guess we were misunderstanding your problem. You were not asking for a firewall in ubuntu you want to use, you asked if ubuntu by default comes with a firewall that might be blocking packages, correct?
[12:02] <Sarajevo> i got sick of win
[12:02] <Sarajevo> ive been using it for 8h straight
[12:02] <Sarajevo> and unity is as confusing as metro on win8
[12:02] <the_dark_knight> hey guys pease help. why can't any of my supervisord jobs run?
[12:03] <Sarajevo> so i switched to kubuntu desktop
[12:03] <Sarajevo> kde?
[12:03] <compdoc> metro is more confusing than unity
[12:03] <Sarajevo> is that a good move
[12:03] <blazemore> Sarajevo: It's a personal choice
[12:03] <mrgoodcat> what's wrong with unity?
[12:03] <the_dark_knight> http://www.bpaste.net/raw/n1vx3VMfLkJZaaw3syoB/  when I run supervisor it doesn't run cat1 or cat2
[12:03] <MestreLion> food1: and why would you want to do that???
[12:03] <Sarajevo> it's confusing and slow
[12:03] <Sarajevo> hey yeah
[12:03] <Sarajevo> i forgot something to ask
[12:03] <Sarajevo> ive been having problems with fonts
[12:03] <blazemore> I move to create a spinoff channel, #ubuntu-circlejerk , where discussions such as "unity sucks lol" can occur
[12:04] <food1> MestreLion, I don't want anyone see my System Information, version etc
[12:04] <Sarajevo> i turned on antialising but still doesnt hep much
[12:04] <blazemore> Sarajevo: Try setting the subpixel smoothing to "full"
[12:04] <MestreLion> food1: "anyone" as in... ?
[12:04] <blazemore> rather than "slight"
[12:04] <Sarajevo> okay
[12:04] <Sarajevo> just a moment
[12:04] <food1> MestreLion, The Nasty Hacker?
[12:04] <Sarajevo> blazemore, and what font would u suggest me to use
[12:04] <Sarajevo> what font do you use
[12:04] <blazemore> Sarajevo: For applications? Whatever the default is
[12:05] <Sarajevo> im using liberatian-mono
[12:05] <Sarajevo> ok
[12:05] <MestreLion> food1: I guess if a hacker is able to access a file in you /etc dir, you have bigger problems then he knowing what you system version is :P
[12:05] <cool_boy_> net disconnected
[12:05] <blazemore> Sarajevo: If it looks good, it is good
[12:05] <the_dark_knight> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9301494/how-to-restart-only-certain-processes-using-supervisorctl this doesn't work in my machine.
[12:05] <the_dark_knight> please help.
[12:05] <MestreLion> cool_boy: ok, I guess we were misunderstanding your problem. You were not asking for a firewall in ubuntu you want to use, you asked if ubuntu by default comes with a firewall that might be blocking packages, correct?
[12:05] <Sarajevo> rgb full, right?
[12:05] <blazemore> Sarajevo: Yes
[12:05] <cool_boy_> yes MestreLion !
[12:06] <Sarajevo> exclude range, turned off?
[12:06] <food1> MestreLion, When Someone connecting to my ssh or trying to logging locally i am not front of my pc. A hacker can go so far if the version he can know
[12:06] <Sarajevo> so far my fav program on ubuntu is wine
[12:06] <MestreLion> cool_boy_: ubuntu does come with a firewall installed, but it is disabled by default (it has no rules and nothing is blocked)
[12:06] <Sarajevo> I need to relog
[12:06] <food1> MestreLion, Is it safe to remove that line?
[12:07] <cool_boy> So not getting why connection is blocked?
[12:07] <MestreLion> food1: that is absurd! First, to connect via ssh you must have ssh server enabled. Second, one needs a user and password there. Third, there are zillions of other ways to find out your OS version other than those files
[12:08] <MestreLion> cool_boy: which connection? what are you trying to do?
[12:09] <cool_boy> I am trying to make wired connection between tow PC's using a switch installed ubuntu on both
[12:09] <food1> MestreLion, Well, Ubuntu boot in text mode then startx. So before logged in anyone can see the banner ... right ? Also I am trying to make it hardened
[12:09] <Titomen> i need some help installing ubuntu 12.04 on raid..some help --guidence
[12:09] <mrgoodcat> Titomen: how far have you gotten?
[12:09] <cool_boy> MestreLion: I have setuped all best of my knowledge,correct ips and all
[12:10] <cool_boy> it sows me connection established in both the PCs
[12:10] <cool_boy> but not able to send and receive packets from one to onother PC
[12:10] <MestreLion> food1: no hacker would see your ubuntu booting before he can *connect* to your machine.
[12:10] <cairne> does network functions even come online during startx?
[12:10] <MestreLion> cool_boy: can you ping each other?
[12:11] <food1> MestreLion, And if he accessed to my computer room and tried turn on it?
[12:11] <cool_boy> thats the problem ,I am not able to ping
[12:11] <MestreLion> food1: then /etc/issue is the least of your problems
[12:11] <cairne> well you can remove the ubuntu logo from the login page if thats what your looking for
[12:11] <Sarajevo> ok
[12:11] <Sarajevo> it's okay now
[12:12] <cool_boy> It says host unreachable
[12:12] <food1> MestreLion, So i can remove that line ... Is it safe ? or Am i n00b?
[12:12] <Sarajevo> thanks
[12:12] <MestreLion> cairne: of course. you have full network support even *without* using X
[12:12] <mN-> food1:  how easy is it to hack linux if they know my real ip?
[12:13] <MestreLion> food1: IMHO you are completely uneducated about what "security" is
[12:13] <food1> mN-, Dunno
[12:13] <Sarajevo> how do i set hotkey for konsole
[12:13] <cairne> MestreLion: I didnt think the dhcp resolved ip addresses until after linux actually boots
[12:13] <cool_boy> MestreLion : it worked one time while testing , but when I pressed ctrl + C, It stopped and never started
[12:13] <n00b982> @food1 I am n00b
[12:13] <mN-> MestreLion:  how easy is it to hack my ubuntu if they know my real ip?
[12:13] <food1> MestreLion, Right
[12:13] <n00b982> dont be making fun of my name
[12:13] <cairne> mN-: depends on if your computer id directly connected to the internet or through a router, the router has a built in firewall
[12:14] <MestreLion> mN-: define "real" ip :P
[12:14] <cairne> mN-: even knowing someones ip, it would still be a decent amount of work, since you would then need to find an open port, an open port that is explotiable
[12:14] <mN-> MestreLion: well not proxy ip but 'real' ip
[12:14] <MestreLion> knowing an IP has nothing to do with security at all
[12:15] <gordonjcp> mN-: pretty much impossible
[12:15] <cairne> mN-: do you have a static ip or dynamic, if its dynamic then it changes every 3-7 days depending on isp ne ways
[12:15] <mN-> cairne: could you do it through irc port?
[12:15] <gordonjcp> mN-: pdp11.gjcp.net - have at it and good lick
[12:15] <gordonjcp> *luck
[12:15] <mrgoodcat> my dynamic almost never changes
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:15] <mrgoodcat> i know that because my domain name is registered to it and it hasn't stopped working in the last year
[12:16] <MestreLion> people from windows world are funny... they are so paranoic about all the FUD... thinking about ips, hackers, antivirus... lol
[12:16] <cairne> mN-: there are exploitable hacks for irc, yes
[12:16] <gordonjcp> mN-: that's a bog standard 12.04 install, hanging off of ADSL
[12:16] <n00b982> my one changes every 4 to 5 days
[12:16] <cool_boy> MestreLion : is it necessary to have Device MAC address automatically in wired connection tab?
[12:16] <cairne> mrgoodcat: if you have a dynamic ip then its leased and it should change
[12:16] <mrgoodcat> mine doesn't
[12:16] <mrgoodcat> it only changes when i disconnect my modem
[12:16] <mN-> gordonjcp:  im not trying to hack anyone, this guy just showed a picture where he is scanning my port and i wonder what he can do o_o
[12:16] <mrgoodcat> which i never do
[12:16] <MestreLion> cool_boy: wait a sec... if you're not using any router at all, who is providing DHCP for their IPs ?
[12:17] <cairne> thats what I was wondering as well MestreLion
[12:17] <cool_boy> MestreLion:I dont know , it is set at automacially
[12:17] <cairne> O.o
[12:18] <MestreLion> cool_boy:  and are the IPs diffeernt yet on the same network mask ?
[12:18] <cool_boy> sorry MestreLion, I said wront ,actually I dont know about it
[12:18] <cool_boy> yes that is
[12:18] <MestreLion> cool_boy: try to ping them by IP first
[12:18] <cairne> mN-: if you think he has your ip address log into your router and release your ip address from your isp and get a new one, then all his efforts are for not
[12:19] <mN-> cairne: okay
[12:19] <the_dark_knight> hi, after copying http://www.bpaste.net/raw/QufNUrMcbdHsspuJCGAq/ like http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8279848/supervisord-adding-multiple-processes-for-php-and-gearman in supervisord.conf. what should I be running to run this task?
[12:19] <MestreLion> mN-: knowing your IP is not an issue... you use your IP for any service you use on the net, so consider it a public information
[12:19] <cairne> mN-: this is true, but if someone is actively probing him, best to throw them off a bit
[12:19] <MestreLion> mN-: and anyone can run nmap on that IP.. again, no big deal, provided you have a sanely configured machine
[12:20] <cairne> could always fire back, see what ip address is connected to you and back track it through nmap
[12:21] <Lova> I haveLOW FPS in Online Videos in browser on old computer. Processor: 1.7 Pentium 4 / Ram: 1 GHz / Videocard: Nvidia Geeforce 440 MX with AGP8X 64 Ram / Video Driver: Proprietory Nvidia Video Driver v. 96
[12:21] <Lova> I have LOW FPS in Online Videos in browser on old computer. Processor: 1.7 Pentium 4 / Ram: 1 GHz / Videocard: Nvidia Geeforce 440 MX with AGP8X 64 Ram / Video Driver: Proprietory Nvidia Video Driver v. 96
[12:21] <cairne> lova: what browser
[12:21] <Lova> all browsers
[12:22] <Lova> Chrome, Ice...
[12:22] <cairne> firefox, chromium can be pretty resource heavy
[12:22] <MestreLion> Lova: what did you expect?
[12:22] <cool_boy> MastreLion : now i gave a try after delete to ping after deleting and creating wired connection again, ir responded
[12:22] <mN-> MestreLion: true but how will he find my new ip so easily if i get it changed? All i do is programming c and check my mail usually
[12:22] <cool_boy> I was getting response in both the systems
[12:23] <mrgoodcat> mN-: ip is public info
[12:23] <MestreLion> mN-: knowing your IP is not relevant at all... anyone can know your IP, so what?
[12:23] <cairne> mN-: everytime you send a packet out you are sending out your ip address
[12:23] <MestreLion> it does not make your machine any less secure
[12:23] <Lova> How have BIG FPS in Videos on Old Computer. On Windows Xp all good!
[12:23] <mrgoodcat> mN-: are you by chance in vantaa finland?
[12:23] <cool_boy> then I wrote 192.168.1.45:8069 in the system which I need to access from other system, it worked till half of the page load and stopped sending packets
[12:23] <cool_boy> now ping too not working
[12:23] <cool_boy> host unreachable
[12:24] <mN-> mrgoodcat:  no helsinki
[12:24] <MestreLion> Lova: because windows XP is a 10+ year OS.
[12:24] <mN-> mrgoodcat:  i know you can dns my irc ip
[12:24] <Lova> And what!??!
[12:24] <dhanasekaran> HI Guys Can I install Ubuntu to my 32 GB USB pen drive?
[12:24] <cairne> lova: try midori, its a very leightweight browser
[12:24] <Lova> u nonadequats
[12:24] <cairne> yes unebootin
[12:24] <MestreLion> dhanasekaran: sure
[12:24] <mN-> cairne: yes but if im not connected to irc or share a program he knows about. how would you find my new ip?
[12:24] <Lova> Any can do normal hemp?
[12:24] <Lova> help
[12:25] <cairne> 32 gb is gonna be a huge flash drive for it tho lol, could easily get away with like an 8
[12:25] <mrgoodcat> mN-: he wouldn't. but MestreLion is trying to say it doesn't matter if he knows your ip
[12:25] <Lova> In Windows XP good FPS, but in Linux bad
[12:25] <dhanasekaran> MestreLion:  please guide me any tutorial is there
[12:25] <MestreLion> Lova: windows XP is a 10+ years OS, so it runs fine on older machines. If you're trying to run a modern Ubuntu, it won't work as weel, this is exppected
[12:26] <mN-> mrgoodcat: yea but he could nmap my ports and use another program to crack if i have open ports lolz(?)
[12:26] <cool_boy> MestreLion : did you get my issue?
[12:26] <arthalion7> hi sirs
[12:26] <dhanasekaran> Guys any tutorial is there for install Ubuntu to my 32 GB USB pen drive?
[12:26] <william_> Hello, i have a computer that recently i can"t boot live cd"s anymore. i dont have any hard drives installed, just a dvd burner to load ubuntu live cds. but now when i boot i get thrown into a busybox cant find live media. any ideas ?
[12:26] <mrgoodcat> Lova: try using lubuntu instead
[12:26] <Lova> i use little distro
[12:26] <Lova> in Lubuntu LOW FPS
[12:26] <cairne> http://mintarticles.com/read/operating-systems-articles/how-to-install-portable-linux-ubuntu-on-a-bootable-usb-flash-drive-from-sun-virtualbox,13641/
[12:26] <arthalion7> how can I force update from 11.10 to 12.10
[12:26] <MestreLion> cool_boy: last time I asked if you can ping machines using IP (and ip alone, not specifying ports)
[12:26] <Lova> Kubuntu > Lubuntu FPS
[12:26] <mrgoodcat> graphics card issue probably
[12:27] <Lova> undestand?
[12:27] <mrgoodcat> drivers
[12:27] <MestreLion> dhanasekaran: no need for tutorials. Just boot a live session, plug your USB and install ubuntu there as if it was an ordinary hard drive. For ubuntu there is no difference
[12:27] <Lova> Flash acselleration not good work for Linux?
[12:27] <cool_boy> MestreLion : Yes I can for the first time when the connection is established
[12:28] <dhanasekaran> MestreLion: Thanks I try
[12:28] <cairne> MestreLion thats new, thought you had to do it through unebootin
[12:28] <mrgoodcat> Lova: you need to make sure you have the proper drivers installed for your graphics card
[12:28] <cool_boy> if I press ctrl + C then if I try to ping again ,it doest works
[12:28] <cool_boy> MestreLion: It shows host unreachable
[12:28] <MestreLion> cairne: to generate an instalablle USB key you do... for installing the system in the USB you don't
[12:28] <william_> Hello, i have a computer that recently i can"t boot live cd"s anymore. i dont have any hard drives installed, just a dvd burner to load ubuntu live cds. but now when i boot i get thrown into a busybox cant find live media. any ideas ? bios rootkit maybe?
[12:28] <william_> im lost
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !patience|william_:
[12:29] <GrapeTheApe> whats the best terminal based program that will proxy (change external ip address)ur connection for free
[12:29] <cairne> MestreLion: sweet you save me from buying one of those sticks from ubuntu website, i could never get installs to work that don't just act as a live system. fedora use to frustrate me so much with that
[12:29] <GrapeTheApe> BESIDES TOR
[12:30] <MestreLion> cairne: also, you don't really need uunetbootin in Ubuntu... there's the USB Creator installed by default
[12:30] <food1> lol again my window got ugly... It is killing me
[12:30] <mrgoodcat> GrapeTheApe: you have to have access to another machine to proxy through first
[12:30] <cairne> MestreLion: so how does boot work with it though, if you just install it, would it be a seperate grub on the flash?
[12:31] <GrapeTheApe> yes i know mrgoodcat...i dont have another machine myself but do u know one that will find one for me besides TOR
[12:31] <MestreLion> cairne: yes. install there and then set BIOS to boot the USB
[12:32] <cairne> MestreLion: Good to know, now I can take my desktop anywhere, does it work if you do a iso copy of your current system?
[12:32] <GrapeTheApe> no one knows huh
[12:32] <MestreLion> cool_boy: I don't know. But first you should investigate how your computers are stablishing their IPs in the rist place, if theres no dhcp server in the network
[12:32] <mrgoodcat> i think tor is the largest and most popular service like that.
[12:32] <GrapeTheApe> tor doesnt seem to work with rtorrent
[12:32] <MestreLion> cairne: define "iso copy of a system" :P
[12:32] <GrapeTheApe> and other services
[12:33] <arthalion7> how can I force update from 11.10 to 12.10? Ubuntu asks me to update to 12.04...
[12:33] <the_dark_knight> hi, please see http://www.bpaste.net/raw/tKWvKn3U89SshyFhiIgA/ I have appended this to my /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf . but I don't see anythin in echo.log file why. It seems like it is no running it. please help me on this supervisord. Refer http://supervisord.org/subprocess.html
[12:33] <cairne> even tor isn't perfect none of them are, they can track your ip into the tor cloud and on the way out and derive your route
[12:33] <cfhowlett> arthalion7: can't be done
[12:33] <GrapeTheApe> pft
[12:33] <cairne> MestreLion: isnt there an option to make a bootable copy of your own system in Ubuntu, so I dont have to reinstall apps, fonts etc
[12:33] <cfhowlett> arthalion7: clean install 12.10 is the way to go.
[12:34] <MestreLion> GrapeTheApe: define "cchange external address". if you're behind a router, theres nothing you can do about external IP, since this is assigned by your ISP
[12:34] <arthalion7> cfhowlett:thanks! Good to know...
[12:34] <GrapeTheApe> MestreLion something like hidemyass proxy, a VPN, Tor,
[12:34] <Lova> How config xorg.conf for BIG FPS in Video in Browser!?
[12:34] <MestreLion> cairne: you can simply copy the partition and install grub on the USB
[12:35] <usuario> sudo apt-get install wine
[12:35] <Lova> HEY?! Where all pro?!
[12:35] <MestreLion> GrapeTheApe: those are internet services, which by definition must run *outside* your router.
[12:35] <cairne> only way to be completley anon on internet would be to change your mac address connect to public wifi via live cd
[12:35] <GrapeTheApe> mestrelion thats basically what i mean
[12:36] <MestreLion> GrapeTheApe: you can't run them in your machine
[12:36] <Lova> Any can help?
[12:36] <GrapeTheApe> u can run clients
[12:36] <MestreLion> Lova: try using an older ubuntu
[12:36] <Lova> How config xorg for Nvidia?
[12:36] <the_dark_knight> please help me on supervisor >>>
[12:36] <the_dark_knight> hi, please see http://www.bpaste.net/raw/tKWvKn3U89SshyFhiIgA/ I have appended this to my /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf . but I don't see anythin in echo.log file why. It seems like it is no running it. please help me on this supervisord. Refer http://supervisord.org/subprocess.html
[12:36] <mrgoodcat> Lova: asking 20 times won't help. obviously nobody knows
[12:36] <GrapeTheApe> u know what i mean mestrelion...looking for privacy thats free besides tor
[12:37] <mrgoodcat> or if they do they aren't telling
[12:37] <Lova> i use CraunchBAng now and Lubuntu ewerewhere LOW FPS
[12:37] <GrapeTheApe> anyway i guess theres nothing... thanks anyway guys take care
[12:37] <MestreLion> GrapeTheApe: privacy when surfing the web has nothing to do with IP proxyinng
[12:37] <Lova> CrauncBAng 80 ram use
[12:37] <cairne> MestreLion: Have you ever used remastersys?
[12:37] <Lova> and 0-3 % processor
[12:37] <Lova> why LOw FPS?
[12:38] <jaakka> hi! does anyone know an application for executing one command in multiple locations, lets say vps.
[12:38] <Lova> 80 Mb ram...
[12:38] <MestreLion> cairne: nope, but I have an idea about what it does
[12:38] <mrgoodcat> Lova: i already told you it is probably a video driver problem
[12:38] <jaakka> getting harder to manage as i ownw hundreds of them
[12:38] <mrgoodcat> jaakka: ssh
[12:38] <Lova> i have problem in 2d in videos and only in browsers
[12:38] <jaakka> albeit the configuration of them is similar
[12:38] <cairne> MestreLion: So I should be able to use that boot the live distro I make and then just straight install on a flash, would 8 gig be enough for a full sys install like that?
[12:38] <Lova> i normal watch videos on my hdd
[12:39] <cairne> lova: what exactly do you mean by low fps? how are you determining your fps?
[12:39] <jaakka> mrgoodcat, yes, but if you have like 100++, it takes a while to get all of them executed at the same time
[12:39] <Lova> Any know my problem?
[12:39] <lmg> greetings ubuntu ppl!
[12:39]  * lmg waves hello
[12:39] <Lova> or use deistro not on Debian maybe?
[12:39] <cairne> hey lmg
[12:39] <Lova> Arch good?
[12:39] <MestreLion> cairne: enought? yes. comfortable or adequate for use? no. My mom lived on a 4GB usb for some months, but she never installed any package...
[12:40] <mrgoodcat> if you can't figure out ubuntu good luck with arch
[12:40] <cairne> lova: try gentoo then
[12:40] <mN-> Anyone know math + c ?
[12:40] <unixhacker> gentoo and arch are not what they used to be. terrible actually what they done to arch.
[12:40] <cairne> MestreLion: bah thanks tho, at least it gives me a starting point, been wanting a flash system
[12:40] <Lova> cairne u shit fag troll faggot stfu then!
[12:41] <Lova> idiot
[12:41] <lmg> looking for someone who can help with the desription of software (blender 3D) in the ubuntu software center (maybe repos too).
[12:41] <FloodBot1> Lova: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:41] <lmg> description* - I meant.
[12:41] <MestreLion> mN-: many do, but I doubt here is the better place to ask about that
[12:41] <jaakka> cairne, perhaps something along the lines of MINT or more user-friendly ones were more suitable for him
[12:41] <jaakka> not everyone is suited to building ones system from blocks
[12:41] <unixhacker> jaakka, correct.
[12:41] <cairne> would be able to slim down the system tho
[12:42] <MestreLion> cairne: out of the box current ubuntu uses about 4~6GB... so you would have very little room for new packages or user data files
[12:42] <SirScott> jaakka: fabric allows you to run cmds on multiple servers simultaneously
[12:42] <cairne> MestreLion: yea I was just reading that, I got a 32 lying around somewhere
[12:42] <MestreLion> lmg: description?
[12:43] <jaakka> SirScott, will it work on openvz, i suppose it should as its written in python and doesnt require kernel integration
[12:43] <lmg> MestreLion: yes. there's a typo. also the version is outdated. bad screenshots too.
[12:43] <cairne> lova: try the lxde spin of fedora, it works great on old systems
[12:43] <lmg> who can I talk/chat/mail to?
[12:43] <jaakka> just want to avoid caveats if possible on a production machine
[12:43] <MestreLion> cairne: another, more economic  solution is to use the Live USB with persistance (a casper-rw partition)
[12:44] <SirScott> jaakka: sure, it just needs ssh
[12:44] <cairne> MestreLion: lol everytime I attempt the persistance, it goes horribly awry lol
[12:44] <MestreLion> lmg: you can report a bug asking to fix that, or, if you're willing to, you can download the source, fix it and post a patch
[12:44] <dixoncx> Problem with pulseaudio/alsa. I tried 'Monitor of built-in audio Analog Streo' to record sound from speaker.eg.http://i.imgur.com/D2hJR.png  But now when i change back to 'built-in audio Analog Streo' to use internal microphone, it produce some noice. http://i.imgur.com/c4NDM.png
[12:45] <jaakka> SirScott, thank you for youre time, uve been helpful
[12:45] <SirScott> jaakka: you're welcome
[12:45] <khurram> hi guys
[12:45] <arkiver> I have downloaded eclipse. And I would like eclipse to launch from my unity dashboard. How can I do that ?
[12:46] <lmg> MestreLion: I see. where is the additional info in software center coming from anyways?
[12:46] <cairne> arkiver: once its open, right click on the icon and lock to launch bar?
[12:46] <khurram> i have  It works!  page comming when i type localhost on my ubuntu . how can i know where is the www folder where i can place the prject files ?
[12:46] <arkiver> I know I might have to move it into the /usr/bin
[12:46] <MestreLion> cairne: it's a bit tricky the first time, but it works wonders. My workflow is: create the Live USB using USB Creator, and set a persistense size (it can be as small as 128MB. after it finishes, delete the casper-rw file and creates a huge casper-rw partition. Voila, done :)
[12:46] <arkiver> But not sure
[12:46] <arkiver> cairne, No I want it to be launched from the terminal also. Maybe I have to put it in PATH ?
[12:47] <cairne> MestreLion: so you expand it just by deleting the file or gparted
[12:47] <arkiver> I've followed the process several times. But most of the times without understanding what it is done what is done.
[12:47] <MestreLion> lmg: additional info? all info in software center comes from the package package itself, AFAIK
[12:47] <theuser> Can i have a  disk image file on a remote file server that is encrypted just like my home directory and automatically mounted to somewhere in my home folder?
[12:48] <cairne> arkiver: hmm i know what your talking about but my brain is just hanging on how to word it lol, been such a long night sorry
[12:48] <MestreLion> cairne: USB creator creates it as a file inside the live partition. Mount and delete the file, then use gparted to create the partition... you may expand it  at will
[12:48] <arkiver> cairne, hehe. No probs :)
[12:48] <cairne> MestreLion: Awesome, thanks man
[12:48] <theuser> More specifically,  is there a easy way to do thi
[12:49] <theuser> And could this image file be mounted by more than one computer at the same time?
[12:49] <lmg> MestreLion: pkg info does contain screenshots? if you would be so kind to compare `apt-cache info blender` with the info in the software center, you will see the difference.
[12:49] <theuser> or is it something else i should be doing ?
[12:50] <invisible> hello
[12:50] <invisible> hello
[12:50] <MestreLion> cairne: my setup for the 8GB was: partition 1: 2GB Fat 32 (may be ntfs) for shared data; partition 2: casper-rw ; partition 3 (bootable): ~800MB live cd
[12:51] <cairne> arkiver: are you trying to launch a specific eclipse project or just the ide itself from the terminal?
[12:51] <MestreLion> lmg: apt-cache info shows just a summary. download the whole source using apt-get source blender and you will find it ;)
[12:52] <cairne> MestreLion: thanks!
[12:52] <lmg> MestreLion: I'll give that a shot thanks. The changes I would like to see.. I mail the "Maintainer" (list) about them?
[12:53] <cairne> lmg: would the info be on their site?
[12:53] <mattyh88> hey, i'm trying to create a bootable usb key of (x)ubuntu with this guide: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx but I keep getting "this disk is not readable by this computer" when the files are written to the usb key
[12:53] <MestreLion> theuser: yes, you can auto-mount it either in /etc/fstab or using any script (even fuse for user mounts). Not sure about concurrent mounts, though
[12:53] <lmg> cairne: on blenders site?
[12:53] <arkiver> cairne, The ide...
[12:54] <MestreLion> lmg: it's better to report a bug... that will notify the maintainer, and its easier to follow-up
[12:54] <lmg> MestreLion: alright, will do. thank you for the information.
[12:55] <MestreLion> lmg:  and no, blender site has nothing to do with package descriptions  or screenshots in software center
[12:55] <lmg> MestreLion: I figured, but since cairne asked..
[12:55] <MestreLion> lmg: directly contacting the maintainer is useful only if you already have the patches to fix the issues you find. And even then its better to report a bug, so you can post your patch there
[12:56] <lmg> blender seems to be a debian pkg, with no unbuntu-specific changes.
[12:56] <MestreLion> and it can be automatically imported from there to the package itself
[12:56]  * lmg nods
[12:56] <lmg> I will check the package source, file a bug, attach a patch and hope for the best.
[12:56] <MestreLion> and wrong: there are ubuntu-only patches
[12:57] <MestreLion> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=blender
[12:57] <MestreLion> if the version contains "ubuntu", as in 2.63a-1ubuntu3 , it means it's an ubuntu-only branch
[12:58]  * lmg nods
[12:58] <MestreLion> and I bet you'll find the screenshots there ;)
[12:58] <lmg> I'm running precise here - hence falsly jumped to conclusions
[12:58] <djjeff> talika depends on libpanel-applet2-0 (>= 2.26.0);
[12:59] <djjeff> possible to get this for ubuntu 12?
[12:59] <lmg> MestreLion: should http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/blender/filelist include the screenshots?
[13:01] <MestreLion> lmg: nope. that is the binary package
[13:01] <MestreLion> you want the source package
[13:02] <lmg> ha
[13:02] <lmg> http://screenshots.debian.net/package/blender
[13:03] <lmg> MestreLion: ^ is where the software-center screenshots are coming from!
[13:03] <cairne> haha, that bunny is hilarious
[13:03] <lmg> cairne: you did see lastyears blender open movie, no? "big buck bunny"
[13:04] <cairne> yes
[13:04] <AdvoWork> is there a way I can test what happens with updates before actually doing them at all?
[13:04] <lmg> 2 years ago, sorry.
[13:04] <lmg> lastyears was sintel
[13:04] <MestreLion> lmg: Good boy ;)  and how did you find that out?
[13:05] <lmg> MestreLion: right hand side on the list of binary pkgs ;)
[13:05] <brontosaurusrex> "Tears of Steel" is the latest blender project
[13:05] <cairne> I try and watch every years blender video, those guys are awesome
[13:05] <cairne> yea tears of steel is showcasing the green screen ability i think
[13:06] <MestreLion> lmg: ok... but I'm not sure if Software Center reads http://screenshots.debian.net/package/ when presenting screenshots
[13:06] <lmg> actually, the new motion tracking + compositing features @cairne
[13:07] <lmg> MestreLion: me neither, but I guess it would be a good place to start adding new ones ;)
[13:07] <cairne> i wish i could play around with blender but actually using the app is way above me
[13:07] <lmg> cairne: steep learning curve, since designed to be effective for advanced users.
[13:07] <brontosaurusrex> cairne: one can do inetersting stuff taken few days of self-education, but not something like big bugs bunny obviously
[13:07] <lmg> what's easy for beginners just hinders pros - so to say
[13:08] <syntroPi> Is there any known way to change a partitions label after its formated with btrfs?
[13:08] <cairne> i would just like to be able to create like a lil 3d logo for my movies with openshot
[13:08] <MestreLion> lmg: how about http://screenshots.ubuntu.com/packages ? ;)
[13:09] <brontosaurusrex> cairne: that should be doable
[13:09] <xSora> anyone her i need Help Please
[13:09] <lmg> MestreLion: what about it? it says debian in both title + header logo.
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !details|xSora:
[13:09] <cairne> xsora: whats going on?
[13:10] <xSora> I Have a Problem With Bootinng Into Windows 7 After Installing Ubunti 11.10 Oneric i Dont get windows 7 in the grub Menu i tried the booot fix but i diddnt work
[13:10] <MestreLion> lmg: oh, sorry, they are aliases :P
[13:10] <lmg> MestreLion: no idea how those are interlinked (Debian -> ubuntu?)
[13:10] <MestreLion> lmg: there you go: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24593/how-can-i-add-screenshots-of-programs-to-the-software-center/24595#24595
[13:10] <cairne> brontosaurusrex, yea once i finish studying python, and web design I want to take a look into 3D modeling
[13:10] <MestreLion> "You can quickly and easily add screenshots to screenshots.debian.net which is the website that the Software Centre gets its screenshots from."
[13:10] <cfhowlett> xSora: 11.10?  end of life, innit?
[13:10] <TheLordOfTime> lmg, Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian.  Most of the packages in Ubuntu come from debina.
[13:10]  * lmg nods
[13:11] <cairne> xsora, open terminal do sudo update-grub i think it is
[13:11] <xSora> I have no IDea what that is
[13:11] <xSora> Okay
[13:11] <lmg> thank you kindly MestreLion, confirms what I was thinking. will do so + submit a bug about the typo in software center :)
[13:11] <cairne> xSora, or it might be grub-update
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !EOL|xSora:
[13:12] <MestreLion> lmg: well, but apart from screenshots, all other info like description comes from the source package
[13:12] <gordonjcp> mN-: I wouldn't worry about it
[13:12] <dixoncx> Problem with internal microphone. Produces noise instead of recording. How to troubleshoot ?
[13:12] <xSora> Oh Okay i FUlly Updated
[13:12] <cairne> did it list off windows 7?
[13:12] <gordonjcp> mN-: as a threat level that's right alongside the "YOUR COMPUTER IS BROADCASTING AN IP ADDRESS" nonsense
[13:12] <MestreLion> lmg: and most of them from the debian/control file inside the source package
[13:12] <xSora> No i didnt Cairne
[13:12] <xSora> it*
[13:12] <mN-> gordonjcp: okay, so what would be a more serious outside threat? :D
[13:12] <lmg> MestreLion: yeah. I wonder how the headline differs in softwarecenter/apt-cache info though.
[13:12] <cfhowlett> xSora: sorry, I was wrong.  11.10 is supported until 04/13
[13:12] <MestreLion> lmg: it does???
[13:13] <TheLordOfTime> cfhowlett, erm...
[13:13] <TheLordOfTime> cfhowlett, 11.10 isnt eol :P
[13:13] <xSora> should i updated to 12.04 ?
[13:13] <TheLordOfTime> 11.04 is though :P
[13:13] <cairne> was 11.04 grub 1 or 2?
[13:13] <TheLordOfTime> xSora, i just got here, what's your issue?  (i only saw cfhowlett try to pull EOL on you)
[13:13] <lmg> MestreLion: that is my point. sorry if I wasn't clear enough. see my very first request: "please compare SWC with pkg info headline" alike
[13:13] <cfhowlett> TheLordOfTime: yes i saw and corrected that bad statement.  but thank you.
[13:13] <xSora> I Cant boot into windows 7 basicaly it isnt in grub  im in 11.10
[13:14] <TheLordOfTime> xSora, sudo grub2-update
[13:14] <xSora> done it :I
[13:14] <MestreLion> lmg: let me check that... what exact packages are you trying?
[13:14] <TheLordOfTime> xSora, did you make sure the windows partition still exists?
[13:14] <cairne> cfhowlett: yea I had them try that first
[13:14] <xSora> yeah
[13:14] <xSora> sudo: grub2-update: command not found
[13:14] <lmg> MestreLion: `apt-cache show blender` vs. Software Center search 'blender'
[13:14] <MestreLion> cairne: ubuntu uses grub2 since 9.10 :P
[13:14] <TheLordOfTime> xSora, pastebin the output of fdisk -l.  and use grub-update.
[13:15] <cairne> can manually edit the grub.conf file if you know the address of the partition of windows
[13:15] <xSora> dik how to paste bin i have  the Boot repair dou want me to run that ?
[13:15] <xSora> ik that has pastebin  report
[13:15] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebinit | xSora
[13:15] <cairne> oh yea i forgot about that utility
[13:15] <lmg> MestreLion: SWC has "3D modeling, animation, rendering and post-production" while pkg has "Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer"
[13:15] <cairne> try boot repair recomended settings
[13:15] <xSora> okay
[13:15] <xSora> i did that too cairne
[13:16] <lmg> MestreLion: SWC headling "modeling" is a typo, at least inconsistent compared to "modelling" in the description.
[13:16] <IdleOne> xSora: sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[13:16] <MestreLion> lmg: wow, you're right. Man... that is weird
[13:16] <lmg> MestreLion: *nods* good, now we are at least talking about the same thing. sorry for being unclear in the first place.
[13:16] <xSora> Idle0ne didd work :i
[13:16] <cairne> xSora: hopefully we can get this figured out ^^ i know how it feels when suddenly you can't get into your other os's lol been there many times
[13:17] <xSora> haha Thanks ^~^
[13:17] <IdleOne> xSora: what didn't work?
[13:17] <xSora> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326366/ my paste bin i guess from boot repair
[13:18] <xSora> that cmmand u gave mee
[13:18] <MestreLion> lmg: for all I know, both the description in SW and apt-cache show comes from the package's debian/control file. The "headline" is simply the first line in the "Description:" field
[13:18] <MestreLion> lmg: if SC is not using a different source for that, i'm completely unaware of. It certainly shouldn't
[13:18] <lmg> MestreLion: wierd tho, that SWC does _not_ have the first line of the description but instead a different (typoed) one.
[13:19] <syntroPi> Anyone has an idea what is wrong with invoking "btrfs filesystem label /dev/mmcblk0p1 ubuntu" because it gives me "ERROR: unknown command 'filesystem'" WHAT? the man talks about filesystem command...
[13:19] <IdleOne> xSora: did it give you any errors?
[13:19] <xSora> no errrors
[13:19] <cairne> did os-prober work?
[13:19] <xSora> Whats that Cairne ?
[13:19] <IdleOne> xSora: so why do you think it didn't work?
[13:19] <gordonjcp> mN-: well the biggest problem is if you run inherently insecure services
[13:19] <xSora> because the Windows  Boot didnt show in the temrinal o.o
[13:19] <xSora> after ir an the update
[13:20] <TheLordOfTime> xSora, is there an :Other Operating SYstems" option?
[13:20] <IdleOne> xSora: the command I gave you didn't run update
[13:20] <gordonjcp> mN-: like, a webserver on its own is probably fine but if you have a badly-written web app that might allow someone to get at stuff you don't want
[13:20] <mN-> gordonjcp:  ah okay
[13:20] <cairne> sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub did you run those as well?
[13:20] <xSora> im soo confused lol  Uhmm Lord of TIme i Only have windows 7 and ubuntu installed
[13:21] <xSora> and run update ? >__<
[13:21] <lmg> MestreLion: mind moving our discussion to a query window? it's crowded already and I don't think this matter if of too much interest to others. or is it? (out for a smoke too, just msg me if its okay with you)
[13:21] <IdleOne> xSora: in terminal run the following command: sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[13:22] <xSora> corey@CoreyHP:~$  sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[13:22] <xSora> Reading package lists... Done
[13:22] <xSora> Building dependency tree
[13:22] <xSora> Reading state information... Done
[13:22] <xSora> os-prober is already the newest version.
[13:22] <FloodBot1> xSora: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <xSora> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:22] <MestreLion> lmg: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=blender  <-- this also matches the package's descriotion 1st line, like apt... so SC is the one doing some strange "magic" :P
[13:23] <IdleOne> xSora: copy all that and put it on paste.ubuntu.com.
[13:23] <IdleOne> tell us the url after you do
[13:23] <xSora> ehhh
[13:23] <xSora> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326376/
[13:23] <MestreLion> lmg: actually, you've spotted a *very* interesting issue.  I truly have no idea where SC is taking that headline from... it's not from the package itself...
[13:24] <cairne> IdleOne, thats weird boot repair is seeing windows but not os prober, think she needs to do the advanced option repair mbr?
[13:24] <xSora> okay okay :I
[13:24] <IdleOne> xSora: now run: fdisk -l    - pastebin the output please
[13:24] <xSora> btw ima dude .-.
[13:25] <xSora> lol
[13:25] <cairne> my bad
[13:25] <IdleOne> doesn't really matter to us
[13:25] <xSora> No Worries ^~^
[13:25] <xSora> the command isnt  entering
[13:25] <lmg> MestreLion: indeed so. what steps do suggest I should take to further investigate (and in the end hopefully fix) this issue?
[13:26] <xSora> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326393/
[13:27] <haojie_1990> mobibot: weather ZBAA
[13:27] <MestreLion> lmg: the good news is: the typo you're trying to fix is the one in the package.. more precisely debian/control file. Just apt-get source blender, edit that file, and use patch/diff to create a patch file. You can then attach that patch to the bug report (or email to the maintainer)
[13:27] <TheLordOfTime> haojie_1990, wrong channel?
[13:28] <xSora>  Idle0ne: it didnt work o.o http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326393/
[13:28] <lmg> MestreLion: understood, will do. what about the headline "magic" - as you nicely put it :) - ?
[13:29] <IdleOne> xSora: sorry it should be : sudo fdisk -l
[13:29] <MestreLion> lmg: I'm assuming you know how to compare 2 files (old and new) to create a diff / patch file...
[13:30] <lmg> MestreLion: I'm a blender developer. have towel - can diff ;)
[13:30] <xSora> Here u Go Idle0ne http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326404/
[13:30] <MestreLion> lmg: as for the headline magic, I truly have no idea... I'll investigate on that too...
[13:30] <MestreLion> lmg: oh, ok.. so you know you way around git and --format-patch just fine :P
[13:30] <lmg> MestreLion: thank you kindly - I'll do the diff + bugreport meanwhile
[13:31] <MestreLion> lmg: also, check to see if the typo is also in debian.. and bug report it there too
[13:31] <lmg> in this very case I can simply type the 1-liner by hand I guess ;)
[13:31] <lmg> ah, I was about to ask if this bugreports get upstreamed automagically. MestreLion
[13:31] <MestreLion> lmg: 2-liner actually :P
[13:32] <lmg> haha, yeah. (I was going to lazily strip the - and just do the +)
[13:32] <IdleOne> TheLordOfTime: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326404/ I'm stuck here with getting windows in grub, can you help xSora please
[13:33] <MestreLion> lmg: no, it doesn't. But if you report in both debian (first) and then ubuntu, you can link them.. so when the debian is closed (and this patch will be applied in debian, not ubuntu), the launchpad bug will automatically be closed
[13:33] <cairne> xSora: is it multiple harddrives
[13:33] <MestreLion> (or, more preciselly, marked as Fix Commited
[13:33] <TomyLobo> hi
[13:33] <xSora> ihave 3 harddrives :I 1 sata 2 pata
[13:33] <lmg> lemme guess, I'll have to register somewhere to report the bug?
[13:33] <TomyLobo> where does ubuntu keep the equivalent of /var/log/messages?
[13:33] <xSora> 320=Ubuntu  80Gb= Windows 7  120= Blank
[13:33] <MestreLion> lmg: launchpad and debian, sure :P
[13:34] <lmg> meh :P
[13:34] <MestreLion> lmg: you probably already have a launchpad account... if you ever used Ubuntu One, or bought anything in SC.. or used Ubuntu Forum, or Ask Ubuntu, etc
[13:35] <lmg> yeah, guess so.
[13:36] <xSora> hmmms :/
[13:37] <cairne> trying to remember how to manually add an entry into grub
[13:37] <xSora> okay no rush
[13:37] <cairne> xSora, can try rebooting after having done the boot-repair
[13:37] <MestreLion> lmg: as for Debian, but reporting is a fancy wrapper over emails, so no need to "register" per se
[13:38] <wols> cairne: /etc/grub
[13:38] <dr_willis>  /etc/grub.d/40_custom  lets you add custom entries to grub
[13:38] <MestreLion> cairne: as long as you don't try to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg :P
[13:38] <wols>  /etc/grub.d rather
[13:38] <xSora> i did that about 6 times cairne
[13:39] <MestreLion> cairne: you may either edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom or create a new "xx_yyyy"  file yourself
[13:39] <MestreLion> lmg: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
[13:40] <cairne> i coulda sworn there was an easy way to do it using just the location of the /sdc
[13:40] <wols> xSora: what happens if you run "sudo os-prober"?
[13:40] <xSora> Wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326428/
[13:41] <Samsai> has anyone had issues with gnome-sound-recorder lately?
[13:41] <xSora> Cairne i have teamiewer if uw ana try a few things
[13:41] <MestreLion> cairne: you can use update-grub and copy and paste the results from /boot/grub/grub.cfg to your /etc/grub.b/40_custom file
[13:42] <MestreLion> teamview, eww :P
[13:42] <xSora> lol
[13:42] <cairne> MestreLion: it seems as tho its not recognizing the other hdd's however the pastebin from the boot-repair app does show them
[13:43] <cairne> can you direct os-prober to look at specific harddrive?
[13:45] <wols> cairne: it doesn't even have a manpage. "simple" script I think
[13:45] <MestreLion> xSora: if you'd open your teamview for me, the fist thing i'd do is to install a proper VNC (hech, even RCP) server and remove teamview... :P
[13:45] <savio> !os-prober
[13:46] <wols> MestreLion: that's a utterly stupid idea. and twice so for you to even suggest such a thing
[13:46] <xSora> lol i love meh teamviewr L3
[13:46] <xSora> :3
[13:46] <MestreLion> :P
[13:46] <wols> NEVER ever open a remote connection for ANYONE from irc, as long as you want to keep your data
[13:46] <xSora> i have no dta .-.
[13:46] <MestreLion> wols: I was just kidding with her
[13:46] <wols> xSora: do net ever let anyone from IRC use it. ever
[13:46] <xSora> HIm HIm HIm !!!
[13:47] <xSora> Sora ,Kingdomhearts .-.
[13:47] <MestreLion> wols: besides, she offered that before to cairne
[13:47] <xSora> >_>
[13:47] <bazhang> !ot | MestreLion xSora
[13:47] <wols> ElixirVitae: you should be still banned from here for even suggestiong it. no I am not kidding. just like no one is supposed to "kid" the rm -rf "jokes"
[13:47] <xSora> i Am a Man  o_o lol but srsly  ubuntu help   :o
[13:47] <MestreLion> wols: and, finally: I have little time to troubleshoot my own machine, let alone to do the same in others :P
[13:47] <bazhang> xSora, thats enough. stop it
[13:47] <xSora> imSorry
[13:48] <bazhang> !behelpful | MestreLion
[13:48] <cairne> xSora, type into terminal boot-repair
[13:48] <xSora> done
[13:48] <cairne> click advanced options
[13:48] <MestreLion> bazhang: she's not to blame... she has a legitmate ubuntu question about grub. she mentioned teamview as a way for someone to directly remote access and help her
[13:49] <bazhang> MestreLion, move on
[13:49] <xSora> i just wanted to say im a boy, i apologize, and cairne next ?
[13:49] <ElixirVitae> wha?
[13:49] <cairne> xSora, click on the tab Grub Location, in the os to boot by default what does it list in drop down
[13:49] <bazhang> ElixirVitae, tab mis complete earlier
[13:49] <MestreLion> and you're correct about me not being helpful to him. But don't be rude to him, all he wanted was help getting his grub to work
[13:50] <ElixirVitae> mistabbed much wols?
[13:50] <bazhang> MestreLion, please. Enough.
[13:51] <IdleOne> cairne: repeat your last message, they didn't egt it.
[13:51] <cairne> i'll handle it in pm
[13:51] <IdleOne> cairne: k
[13:52] <lmg> MestreLion: what file in blender*-debian src am I looking for again?
[13:52] <wols> xSora: on which hdd is your windows installed? 80GB or 120GBß
[13:53] <xSora> 80 gb
[13:54] <MestreLion> lmg: debian/control
[13:54] <crankharder> say I wanted to get postgres 9.2 on ubuntu 10.04, is there a legit repo I can get that from?
[13:55] <crankharder> this looks like something: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/pitti_postgresql/lucid/main/base/postgresql-9.2 -- but ubuntuupdates.org?
[13:55] <MestreLion> lmg: that's where all info from apt-cache show comes from
[13:55] <lmg> oh man, what a mess :)
[13:55] <lmg> MestreLion: the info in 'control' is correct.
[13:56] <lmg> MestreLion: the info in 'menu' has Modeler tho (compared to Modeller in config)
[13:56] <lmg> and still no clue where the info in software center is coming from.
[13:57] <lmat> I'm looking to mount an https distributed file system (I'm not sure if that's what to call it).
[13:58] <lmat> It's documented for Win and Mac here: https://kb.iu.edu/data/bcim.html
[13:58] <lmat> Is this a common thing to do?
[13:58] <crankharder> or, here's a postgres 9.2 package for lucid: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/postgresql -- but how would i install that?
[13:58] <MestreLion> lmg: you mean ./debian/menu ?
[13:58] <lmat> What would the "vfstype" be?
[13:58] <lmg> MestreLion: yeah. compare 'control' and 'menu'
[13:59] <lmg> Modeller vs. Modeler
[13:59] <MestreLion> let me download the source
[14:00] <lmg> MestreLion: only grab the small *debian* tgz
[14:00] <lmg> MestreLion: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/blender/blender_2.62-1.debian.tar.gz
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | crankharder
[14:01] <z3r0> ...
[14:01] <z3r0> test
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> crankharder: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pitti/postgresql ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:01] <z3r0> ok hi ho  alle zusammen
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> !test | z3r0
[14:01] <DualBootMe> ive been having problems trying to get grub to understand windows 8 on my parition..i used os-prober and then grub-update but still nothing...i have windows 8 and ubuntu 12.04 both on one hard drive any idea whats going on or if windows 8 is supported on grub
[14:01] <z3r0> thx
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> crankharder: you'll also need: sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.2     you may want to uninstall the older one if it will cause issues.
[14:02] <MestreLion> lmg: you said there was a typo in description... where is it?
[14:03] <lmg> MestreLion: Mode*l*er vs Mode*ll*er
[14:03] <lmg> in the debian/menu + ubuntu software center
[14:03] <z3r0> what kind of irc chat u use ???
[14:03] <crankharder> ActionParsnip: I was hoping for something that was more supported and came without a warning :)
[14:03] <MestreLion> lmg: but description (and, thus, apt-get and friends) is already ModeLLer
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> crankharder: you can always compile it yourself
[14:04] <lmg> MestreLion: yeah, but 'menu' and softwarecenter don't and I want to fix that.
[14:04] <lmg> that is - the blender foundation asked me to fix it ;)
[14:05] <crankharder> oh, i guess postgres supports that particular ppa ;) http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/
[14:05] <MestreLion> lmg: well, menu is easy...
[14:05] <MestreLion> edit, diff, submit
[14:05] <lmg> patch -> bugreport. *nods*
[14:05] <Promethes> hi, my HP printer not working on 12.10 - i get error Filter failed. Anyone knows how to fix this? On 12.04 this printer worked perfectly
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> crankharder: if you look at who martin pitt is, you'll be fine
[14:05] <lmg> but the SC magic? still no idea where that headline is coming from.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Promethes: did you upgrade or did you clean install Quantal?
[14:06] <Promethes> ActionParsnip: clean install
[14:06] <FlashDeluxe> hi! is there a cli tool which works as proxy and changes my ip adress if i call that tool via terminal?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Promethes: tried updating HPLIP?
[14:06] <crankharder> ActionParsnip: sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[14:07] <MestreLion> Guys, does any experienced Ubuntu packager knows where is Software Center taking its package "headlines" from? I always assumed it was from package's debian/control file, just like in any other tool, but lmg spotted a different headline in blender package. Any ideas?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> crankharder: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[14:07] <Promethes> ActionParsnip: hplip package is updated to the most recent version in official ubuntu repositories
[14:07] <lmat> How do I get this program? https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man8/mount.davfs.8.html
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Promethes: did you check the HPLIP site, to see if there is a newer version?
[14:08] <cairne> later #ubuntu
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Promethes: the repos don't always have the latest packages, in fact its quite rare
[14:08] <lmat> cairne: wait!
[14:08] <lmat> cairne: I need your help.
[14:08] <cairne> sup
[14:08] <lmat> cairne: How do I get this program? https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man8/mount.davfs.8.html
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> !info hplip quantal
[14:09] <Promethes> ActionParsnip: version on hplip website is the same version that is on ubuntu repository
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Promethes: it's not. I just looked
[14:09] <FlashDeluxe> lmat aptitude install davfs2 ?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> FlashDeluxe: please don't advise aptitude
[14:10] <FlashDeluxe> lmat apt-get install davfs2 ?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Promethes: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hplip/hplip-3.12.10a.run     is later than 3.12.6   isn't it?
[14:10] <lmat> FlashDeluxe: YAY! I tried install davfs with no hints or anything.
[14:10] <lmat> FlashDeluxe: davfs2 seems to be very good.
[14:10] <Promethes> ActionParsnip: you have right, those long version numbers
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Promethes: so why lie?
[14:10] <cairne> lmat, so you all set?
[14:10] <MestreLion> lmat: have you tried searching the Software Center for davfs ?
[14:10] <FlashDeluxe> lmat its the tool you were looking for ;)
[14:11] <lmat> cairne: eh...more set than I was. I got 301 Moved Permanently, but that's a separate problem :)
[14:11] <lmat> MestreLion: What is the Software Center?
[14:11] <MestreLion> :O
[14:11] <lmat> FlashDeluxe: I think so. mount -t davfs executed this time (and asked for username and password.).
[14:11] <FlashDeluxe> ActionParsnip sorry, i just copied the command, lazy as i am
[14:11] <cairne> ok im passing out now, lata #ubuntu
[14:11] <lmat> cairne: night!
[14:12] <MestreLion> lmat: you're using Ubuntu, correct?
[14:12] <lmat> MestreLion: correct-a-mundo@
[14:12] <lmat> !
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> FlashDeluxe: it's cool, if the OS is 64bit then apt-get can manage multiarch better, aptitude also isn't in a default install :)
[14:12] <lmat> MestreLion: (you?)
[14:12] <MestreLion> lmat: which version?
[14:12] <lmat> dunno, got it a week or so ago.
[14:13] <lmat> 12.04
[14:13] <lmat> 12.04.1 LTS
[14:13] <lmat> MestreLion: ^
[14:13] <MestreLion> lmat: you may notice there's a Ubuntu Software Center launcher  on the left side of your screen
[14:13] <lmat> MestreLion: Negative, captain.
[14:13] <FlashDeluxe> ActionParsnip i guess in most cases it doesn`t make a difference if you use ap-get or a frontend, because most of the people just want to install a simple tool :)
[14:13] <lmat> MestreLion: Let me give you a screen shot.
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> !aptitude | FlashDeluxe
[14:13] <BluesKaj> lmat, FYI , @ isn't required on irc , typing the person's nick is enough for their nick highlight to work
[14:14] <MestreLion> lmat: if it's not there, you may have unpinned it from the launcher. You can find it using the dash (the "menu")
[14:14] <lmat> BluesKaj: (@ was a typo. I meant !)
[14:15] <Promethes> ActionParsnip: do i need remove hplip package installed from ubuntu repos before installing manually newer version from hplip website?
[14:15] <MestreLion> lmat: are you familiar with Ubuntu or any other Linux?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Promethes: why did you say the website had the same version as the repos did, when it clearly doesn't?
[14:16] <lmat> MestreLion: yes,sir. Getting that screen shot, just a sec.
[14:16] <FlashDeluxe> ActionParsnip ohh ok, didn`t know that this bug was such high critical, thanks for the info
[14:16] <lmat> MestreLion: http://imagebin.org/234338
[14:16] <lmat> MestreLion: That's my screen.
[14:16] <MestreLion> lmat: the reason I'm asking so is you said you don't know what Ubuntu Software Center is... and yet you're trying to install davfs.. so something looks wrong
[14:17] <lmat> MestreLion: I installed davfs.
[14:17] <lmat> MestreLion: (Apparently it's called davfs2 these days ;)  )
[14:17] <MestreLion> oh, Xmonad ?
[14:17] <Promethes> ActionParsnip: because i looked too quick and did'nt read version number properly
[14:17] <lmat> MestreLion: What's that?
[14:17] <lmat> MestreLion: I'm guessing it has to do with X.  I don't use X.
[14:17] <MestreLion> lmat: nevermind... the screenshot you posted looked like xmonad
[14:18] <MestreLion> it's a tiling DE
[14:18] <lmat> MestreLion: Ah, nope
[14:18] <lmat> MestreLion: Hold ALT+CTRL and press 1
[14:18] <MestreLion> actually a tiling WM.. not a DE
[14:18] <lmat> MestreLion: type "sudo service lightdm stop"
[14:18] <lmat> MestreLion: then sudo apt-get install tmux
[14:18] <lmat> MestreLion: Then sudo apt-get install irssi
[14:18] <lmat> then
[14:19] <lmat> tmux && irssi   then press ctrl+b, "   and you're set :)
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Promethes: it may help to remove te old first, can't hurt
[14:19] <lmat> MestreLion: So, the tiling part is tmux. My IRC client is irssi
[14:20] <lmat> MestreLion: from xmonad site, "haskell + smart programming practices guarantee a *crash-free* experience."
[14:20] <MestreLion> lmat: by the way, the url you posted for davfs is from dapper... that's 5.xx iirc
[14:20] <GunArm> I was just running apt-get dist-upgrade and got all kinds of errors, most of which scrolled up off the screen but what I have is a bunch of like http://pastebin.com/UHAVqWx6 and as you can see at the bottom now I get "bus error" when I run apt-get,  and other commands are giving seg faults.... wtf it was running fine before i tried to upgrade packages.  Is it even safe to reboot?
[14:20] <lmat> MestreLion: haha! What is it in the combination of haskell and smart programmers that *guarantee* no crashes?!?
[14:20] <lmat> MestreLion: OOO :(
[14:21] <lmat> MestreLion: I was thinking dapper was a package (apt-get install dapper) ... I see now that it's an ubuntu version (dapper drake?).
[14:21] <MestreLion> lmat: when you want to search for packages, use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:21] <lmat> MestreLion: ahh, thanks!
[14:21] <MestreLion> no, dapper is an ubuntu release...
[14:21] <lmat> release, right.
[14:22] <MestreLion> a veeeeery old one
[14:22] <greg606> hi
[14:22] <lmat> MestreLion: What about apt-cache search ?
[14:22] <lmat> MestreLion: Seems much better than some elinks site.
[14:22] <MestreLion> lmat: it will search only for packages in your current release
[14:22] <lmat> MestreLion: ahh, thanks.
[14:23] <greg606> i have a problem: mouse freezes from time to time and also sometimes whole system I use amd test drivers cause in 12.10 defualt are broken (fglrx) may it be the cause?
[14:23] <MestreLion> if you're interested in "what happened to the old davfs i used in ubuntu 5 years ago", then the "elinks site" is you best shot ;)
[14:23] <greg606> I have to reset the computer :(
[14:23] <greg606> it's new and i'm worried
[14:23] <greg606> cause it could be hardware
[14:24] <MestreLion> greg606: there are stable drivers besides the default, you don't need to use test drivers
[14:24] <greg606> they are broken
[14:24] <MestreLion> greg606: all of them?
[14:25] <z3r0_> hmm irssis look nice *G*
[14:25] <z3r0_> some how
[14:25] <z3r0_> *G*
[14:25] <greg606> MestreLion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer-updates/+bug/1069199
[14:25] <MestreLion> not sure what is the default in 12.10... in precise it's 12.4, and AMD already released 12.6, 12.8 and 12.10, all stable...
[14:26] <greg606> I used ati proprietary
[14:26] <greg606> stable yes...
[14:26] <greg606> ;)
[14:27] <MestreLion> greg606: yes, there are some issues with 12.10 and ati proprietary for the Radeon HD 7000 series
[14:27] <kelye> hello, how can I change the terminal behaviour to act like putty terminal ?
[14:27] <greg606> MestreLion: could it be my mouse problem?
[14:27] <kelye> (selecting copies the selected part)
[14:27] <lmg> MestreLion: any news? (did someone reply to your call)
[14:28] <MestreLion> greg606: its hard to tell. Have you tested a similar setup using 12.04 ?
[14:28] <mneptok> greg606: why not revert to the included "radeon" FLOSS driver and see if the mouse behaves properly?
[14:29] <MestreLion> greg606: you may also remove the ati proprietary and use the free source drivers, and see if the mouse still hangs
[14:29] <MestreLion> just to test if the problem is related
[14:29] <guang_> how to uninstall ubuntu?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> greg606: what AMD GPU do you have?
[14:29] <greg606> MestreLion: i have uefi  + win8 - damn hard to setup, i'm happy i did. not willing to move everything .
[14:29] <greg606> ActionParsnip: 7950
[14:30] <MestreLion> guang_: no operating system provides and "uninstall" feature. You simply delete its partition and revert the boot loader
[14:30] <Angells>  vbfbv
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> greg606: then I suggest you report a bug
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: Ubunru via wubi does :)
[14:30] <Angells> free irc shell find?
[14:30] <greg606> ActionParsnip: I can't while using unsopported drivers
[14:30] <MestreLion> ActionParsnip: hum, true. But again, not a "real" OS :P
[14:30] <mneptok> Angells: not in this channel.
[14:31] <Angells> but where?
[14:31] <mneptok> Angells: also, not a question for this channel
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: it is, its just stored in a file on NTFS and loop mounted at boot :P
[14:32] <MestreLion> greg606: if you don't want to install 12.04 (it usually installs fine with windows and other ubuntus, specially if you already have grup installed and working), then your best test would be to remove the catalyst driver and test the free radeon ones
[14:32] <MestreLion> ActionParsnip: humm, nice. I never knew how wubi did its magic :P
[14:33] <greg606> MestreLion: i'll try
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: 'magic' in the loosest term :D
[14:33] <mneptok> Wubi's magic is usually along the lines of "Watch me pull a hat out of a rabbit!"
[14:34] <MestreLion> ActionParsnip: but then, same procedure: delete it (file instead of partition) and fix boot (windows boot selection instead of mbr's grub)
[14:34] <MestreLion> ActionParsnip: I assume wubi also installs a windows software that does exactly that?
[14:34] <mneptok> MestreLion: Ubuntu is listed as an installed app in Windows' "Add/Remove Programs" i believe
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: oh totally, you can do it manually but there is an item in 'programs and features' to do it for you
[14:37] <GunArm> can anyone help me?  my file system seems to have switched to read-only in the middle of a package upgrade, and now any sudo command returns 'bus error', top returns IO error, uptime gives a seg fault.  What could cause this?  Can I reboot?
[14:37] <MestreLion> would be neat if wubi also has a feature of installing "for real" and dd'ed the file to a parttion, so you keep all installed programs and settings
[14:37] <MestreLion> maybe it does have it already
[14:38] <compdoc> GunArm, when there are read/write errors, the FS swiches to read-only
[14:38] <compdoc> can you run the disk utility?
[14:38] <GunArm> which one?
[14:38] <morethananoise> hey, I've got problem with my ubuntu 12.10, i've just upgraded and nothing works.. Unity doesn't even show up, my mouse cursor disappears randomily, anyone can help..?
[14:38] <GunArm> probably not if
[14:38] <compdoc> gnome disk util
[14:39] <GunArm> compdoc: no i'm sshed in to my headless server
[14:39] <compdoc> click the Dash button and type in disk
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> morethananoise: what video chip do you use?
[14:39] <compdoc> you have smartctl installed?
[14:39] <GunArm> i think so
[14:39] <morethananoise> ActionParsnip: I use amd radeon hd 4200
[14:39] <compdoc> GunArm, try: smartctl -a /dev/sda
[14:39] <MestreLion> GunArm: rebooting seems your only choice, considering you cannot run any commands. You can deal with interrupeted package  installs later
[14:39] <compdoc> or whatever drive
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> morethananoise: then you'll want this: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[14:40] <GunArm> compdoc: yeah i have to sudo it and it gives a bus error
[14:40] <compdoc> GunArm, use sudo fdisk -l    to list the drives
[14:41] <compdoc> if you dont use sata, is wont be sda
[14:41] <velho> hello folks! how can I run Windows inside Linux? I can't remember the name of the progra... thanks!
[14:41] <GunArm> anything with sudo gives a buss error
[14:41] <compdoc> if its raid, it wont work anyway
[14:41] <MestreLion> velho: I'm very fond of VirtualBox
[14:42] <GunArm> i guess I'll have to reboot, but unfortunatly, I cant reboot over ssh if I cant do sudo, so I have to wait until my girlfriend wakes up at home and have her yank the plug out of the wall
[14:42] <GunArm> if I cant sudo I dont see any better way to reboot
[14:42] <MestreLion> GunArm: are you able to open other ssh sessions?
[14:43] <Nach0z> GunArm: why cantcha sudo?
[14:43] <mah454> After receive this message in syslog : Nov  2 18:09:17 SkyNet kernel: [  161.001911] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: PCI INT A disabled
[14:43] <GunArm> MestreLion: ill trye
[14:43] <mah454> My mouse disabled !
[14:43] <mah454> How can fix this problem ?
[14:43] <GunArm> Nach0z: some kind of file system error on my root mount
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> GunArm: you can always boot to root recovery mode and reinstall sudo there, may help
[14:43] <Nach0z> GunArm: oh. you tried rebooting into the recovery prompt?
[14:43] <velho> MestreLion, thanks ;)
[14:43] <compdoc> mah454, new system? old system? it worked before?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> mah454: usb mouse or touchpad?
[14:44] <MestreLion> guys, he's ussing ssh, so no sudo = no reboot
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: gah
[14:44] <GunArm> ActionParsnip: well sudo itself works (by itself it gives command options), but I think its more to do with being locked out of sbin or something
[14:45] <MestreLion> GunArm: try to open another connection, just to see if the machine is dead
[14:45] <Nach0z> GunArm: you tried manually specifying command paths?
[14:45] <mah454> ActionParsnip: I use laptop , I connect mouse to system and after some second mouse disabled (Laptop Dell Vostro 3350)
[14:45] <Nach0z> s/command/executable
[14:45] <GunArm> interestingly no I can't log into a new ssh, possibly because there is that script at login that checks how many packages there are to upgrade which is crashing
[14:45] <velho> MestreLion, do you know VMWare?
[14:46] <MestreLion> velho: yes, but there is no native VMWare server in ubuntu repo
[14:46] <auronandace> !vmware
[14:46] <GunArm> MestreLion: fwiw I can navigate around my filesystem on this connection I had open, the machine isn't totally dead, just kinda useless heh
[14:46] <MestreLion> GunArm: non-sudo commands work fine?
[14:46] <velho> MestreLion, thanks! I was actually trying to find it there :D
[14:47] <mah454> compdoc: ActionParsnip : please view this paste : http://dpaste.com/hold/822966/
[14:47] <MestreLion> velho: install VirtualBox... it works great, and has a very nice GUI
[14:47] <Touhou11> Those VMWare instructions are out of date... VMWare player lets you create your own virtual machines now, not just use existing ones
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> mah454: does the touchpad work ok?
[14:47] <GunArm> MestreLion: yes, I can do "apt-get moo", but not "sudo apt-get moo"
[14:47] <mah454> ActionParsnip: yes work
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: you can edit it, its a wiki
[14:47] <MestreLion> GunArm: I mean commands that don't require sude :P
[14:48] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: It requires a user account, you can't edit anonymously for some reason
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> mah454: how about if you unplug the mouse, wait a few seconds then shove it back in?
[14:48] <MestreLion> velho: do you specifically need VMWare ?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: well yeah, that's how wikis work
[14:48] <Touhou11> Wikipedia lets you edit anonymously
[14:48] <GunArm> MestreLion: well some of them, i can cd around, and cat files, but "top" gives "-bash: /usr/bin/top: Input/output error"
[14:49] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, dude sence I got my apt-get update working with your help, it no longer see's any new updates at all??
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: then make an account, or report a bug
[14:49] <MestreLion> GunArm: can you write files?
[14:49] <mah454> ActionParsnip: mouse work ... but after some second disabled !
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> mah454: tried a different usb mouse?
[14:49] <mah454> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:50] <mah454> what is ehci_hcd  ?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> mah454: are you using a USB3 port?
[14:51] <KsM> mah454: driver for the USB ports, basically
[14:51] <mah454> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:52] <mah454> How can fix this problem ?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> mah454: tried a USB2 port, you do realize that a mouse sends very little data
[14:53] <mah454> But ubuntu 12.04 have not this problem ! (I use ubuntu 12.10)
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> mah454: its worth exploring though...don't you think
[14:53] <GunArm> MestreLion: it seems like no, not even in ~ (which is the same partition), and some subfolders of ~ i cant even ls in
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> mah454: what do you hope to gain by using USB3 for mouse exactly?
[14:54] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, any thoughts about how to get my host to see the updates sence Oct 17th?
[14:54] <rainbowwarrior2> rl
[14:54] <rainbowwarrior2> hello
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:54] <GunArm> MestreLion: it seems like I dont have any options other than cutting power to the machine, which is just scary because I have a 10 TB raid array running on it
[14:55] <GunArm> although the raid array is still up and running (I can read and write to it) just not the / device
[14:55] <MestreLion> GunArm: i'd wait for someone with console access to check it out
[14:56] <flyer1229> hello
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> just seen a youtube vid. Mouse transmits 0.01Mbps to the system. What a waste
[14:56] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, yah "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: sounds good
[14:56] <velho> how can I see how much space is in my disc, inside ubuntu? thank you
[14:56] <donofrio> I thought a bunch of updates have come out, at least 30??
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> velho: df -h
[14:56] <tlopez> is there a webpage that shows if your laptop can run ubuntu from USB
[14:56] <tlopez> ?
[14:56] <MestreLion> GunArm: worst-case scenario, one could do a SysReq to nicely close all programs and shut it down
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: did the repos get 'hit' or were they 'ign'?
[14:57] <Parufito> hi! anybody knows if Gnome Classic is still available in Ubuntu 12.10 ? thanls
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> tlopez: check in the BIOS
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Parufito: install gnome-panel and log of, choose the new available session
[14:57] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, Most "Hit" a bunch "ING"
[14:57] <MestreLion> velho: open your home folder... you can also right-click "computer" for its properties
[14:57] <velho> ActionParsnip, thanks! any GUI?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: I can suggest you run this: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[14:58] <tlopez> I tried to install Ubuntu on my new laptop month ago , the laptop is new and expensive so maybe the drivers for linux have not come out yet for the hardware
[14:58] <abangmanja> cant upgrade ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. any help
[14:58] <GunArm> MestreLion: but even if I was to give someone root access to my server they couldnt ssh in.  interesting I never knew about this sys req thing
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> velho: there is disk analyser in dash if memory serves. You already know the space though....
[14:59] <abangmanja> ubuntu upgrade take forever to download
[14:59] <Parufito> thanks ActionParsnip. I have it in 12.04, but i was afraid that canonical decided to delete it from the repos. Thanks!
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> abangmanja: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades     use the Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended) method
[14:59] <velho> ActionParsnip, cool! way simpler :) thanks
[15:00] <abangmanja> im using main server is that what  you mean
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Parufito: You can always change desktop, there are 3rd party (unsupported) forks of gnome2
[15:01] <MestreLion> velho: even simpler: open your home folder (Nautilus) and go View-> Statusbar. That will always show the free space of your current drive
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> abangmanja: it shows how to upgrade from LTS to non-LTS  in CLI
[15:01] <Parufito> yes, but i preffer the gnome classic from ubuntu that is based in gnome3 but mantaining the simple gnome2 look :D
[15:01] <Parufito> i've tried some other without good feeling
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Parufito: if you install gnome-panel, you wil be using gnome3
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Parufito: just with a different shell....gnome-shell
[15:01] <laumonier> hi ive got a problem on ubuntu my wifi internet conection is very slow unlike on my windows seven is there a way to fix this??any clue to help me?
[15:02] <MestreLion> Parufito: Cinnamon or MATE may be an option for you
[15:02] <onam> !ot
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> laumonier: what wifi chip do you use?
[15:02] <rainbowwarrior2> heh my mind has just gone blank and i have forgot what i was going to ask lol
[15:02] <Parufito> i've tried all and what worked better for me was the Gnome Classic in ubuntu 12.04... but i don'
[15:03]  * rainbowwarrior2 hugs Ubuntu 12.10 :o)
[15:03] <abangmanja> ActionParsnip thanks
[15:03] <Parufito> the only problem was if caninical decided to delete it in 12.10, but if you say that not, i'll keep it :D
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Parufito: you could use XFCE, its got the Gnome2 smell
[15:03] <abangmanja> im happy with LTS 12.04
[15:04] <MestreLion> abangmanja: +1. 5 years of support is a bliss :)
[15:04] <Parufito> i use xfce in my laptop :D is nice, but for my workstation i preffer the "gnome" stuff
[15:04] <MestreLion> blessing*
[15:04] <abangmanja> im trying to upgrade twice but fail now im stick to LTS
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Parufito: XFCE is made using GTK
[15:05] <mad-leigh> when my wifi is slow I open a online radio as it seems to help boost the signal quality - adsl+2 .... just my 2 cents
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> is it possible to use mutter with Ubuntu 12.04 + Unity?
[15:07] <velho> MestreLion, awesome! :)
[15:09] <MestreLion> lmg: still there?
[15:10] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, ok finshed and no new packages - so I should be uptodate or is it broken?? just want to be secure cause I cannot have this desktop get exploited
[15:12] <MestreLion> lmg: I've found it! Looks like USC also uses data from "Ubuntu App Directory", which is an online catalog with complementary package information
[15:12] <GunArm> MestreLion: I stepped my girlfriend at home through REISUB and now it's back up and seems to be fine
[15:12] <MestreLion> lmg:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-webcatalog
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: not sure dude, try a different server
[15:13] <Srini> Hi all
[15:13] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, always welcome an honest answer any day of the week ----- thanks for the tips you've been a awesome help, I'll rtry the dirretnt host
[15:14] <mN-> a
[15:14] <Srini> I am using ubuntu server 12.10 - seeing loads of issues doing apt-get --- getting 403 forbidden.... I am able to wget without problems, (I am behind a smoothwall )
[15:15] <JimmyJohnny> I just booted into KUbuntu 12.10 off of my 8GB flash drive. Man, this this is slower than hell off a flash drive. Its USB 2.0. Im not so sure they should even encourage people to try the OS this way. It would probably drive people away. Unless  I am doing something wrong but I dont know what it could be.
[15:15] <Srini> I am new to Ubuntu... tried many things found from google... nothing worked.... :(
[15:15] <lmg> MestreLion: thank you - will check later - baby awake.
[15:16] <theFantasticTrol> kubuntu? isn't that like a fat version of unity?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: I try :D
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Srini: can you ping the server?
[15:17] <JimmyJohnny> i think so, i really didnt read the details, its supposed to be a more graphically enhanced version of the vanilla Ubuntu, so i said, yeah let me try that
[15:17] <theFantasticTrol> it uses the kde desktop if im not wrong
[15:18] <theFantasticTrol> just usable for fast computers with good graphics cards really
[15:18] <skypce> hello guys, a problem with irqs can do the mouse slow after resume?
[15:18] <theFantasticTrol> not recommended on a usb stick lol
[15:18] <skypce> or irq problems freeze all the pc?
[15:18] <TheJelly> Is the hard drive performance penalty in a Wubi install significant?
[15:18] <JimmyJohnny> sounds right, Im not gonnna be able to form any opinions until I re-burn the ISO to a CD and just boot from that, running off USB is not worth it. My computer is good enough, got an i3-2105, just can't belileve the slow speed off usb
[15:19] <sevi> Hey guys,  i have a question regarding my webform. it cant connect to my serverside phpscript named connect.php. there is an syntax error on line 30. can anybody look at it? : http://pastebin.com/n6Ni1MEp
[15:19] <MestreLion> lmg: hummm, got it! I'ts the comment from the desktop file! check the source package for: ./release/freedesktop/blender.desktop
[15:19] <_val_> Hello. Did someone get spice-xpi addon working under firefox?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> TheJelly: it will be directly affected by fragmentation in NTFS
[15:19] <theFantasticTrol> if you want a good usb linux system you should look into something like puppy linux
[15:19] <BluesKaj> JimmyJohnny, do you have a cdrom drive , the live cd is quite fast ..but i've never tried kubuntu on a usb stick
[15:19] <_val_> I've found a ppa, and added but can't seem to get it working. Any idea?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> _val_: could try contacting the PPA maintainer
[15:20] <skypce> hello ActionParsnip
[15:20] <BluesKaj> JimmyJohnny, the live media versions are always slower then the real installed OS anyway
[15:21] <theFantasticTrol> if you want a ubuntu version try lubuntu or xubuntu, they are the least memory/cpu consuming ones
[15:21] <theFantasticTrol> for ubs that is
[15:21] <sevi> is this the right channel for my question? perhaps i need to be in php
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> _val_: did you read http://www.spice-space.org/docs/spice_user_manual.pdf
[15:22] <JuJuBee> got a laptop with a core duo 1.86 CPU and 4GB RAM and KDE and GNOME.  Gnome seems to run fine but when in KDE, the cpu utilization goes up and everything lags horribly.  Top shows CPU going up to 100% for kwin
[15:22] <skypce> hey , do you can invite me to #ubuntu-support?
[15:23] <_val_> ActionParsnip: yes reading now.. seem I've to get the sources.
[15:23] <_val_> Allright thanks. Going to compile it
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> skypce: get identified and you can walk in
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> skypce: I'm not allowed either, I'd ask in #freenode
[15:24] <skypce> ActionParsnip,  * Cannot join #ubuntu-support (Channel is invite only).
[15:24] <MestreLion> lmg: and it makes perfect sense to extract the "highlight" from there too: the description in the package is always in english, while the .desktop file info can contain several languages. So USC can show a package description in the user's own language
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: what GPU do you use?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: are there any bugs reported?
[15:25] <MestreLion> lmg: if there is no .desktop file, or if the desktop contains no "Comment" field, then USC uses the 1st line of the "Description" field on package's debian/control file :D
[15:28] <gnagno> hello all
[15:28] <donofrio> ActionParsnip, ok this one is weird - I cannot change servers, I can test for best but the software sources screen just says on "main server"
[15:28] <x__> whats the best way to have a script run every 30 seconds or so, but not have multiple instances going at a time ??
[15:29] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: GPU : Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
[15:29] <wols> x__: cron and the first thing the script does is creating a lock file and checking it
[15:29] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: the laptop is actually one of my students'
[15:29] <wols> x__: and before it ends, releases the lock of course
[15:29] <gnagno> I just updated from precise to quantal, my video driver are totally screwed up, when I try to reinstall nvidia drivers the process hangs at update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic and stays there for hours... can someone help me please?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> donofrio: edit /etc/apt/sources.list     and change 'archive.ubuntu.com' to 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com'
[15:29] <JimmyJohnny> I've tried booting UBuntu off the CD in the past and it worked a hell of a lot faster than bootinng off a USB stick.
[15:30] <x__> wols, yea I don't know how to bash script ;-P its an archive extracting python script someone else wrote that I am using manually atm.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: are there any bugs reported with KDE and the Intel 950 GPU?
[15:30] <wols> x__: you can do it in python too...
[15:30] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: looking now
[15:30] <x__> wols, well I don't know python, not a programmer :-P
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> x__: if you have a desktop UI, you can use gnome-schedule
[15:31] <x__> ActionParsnip, nah its command line
[15:31] <wols> ActionParsnip: it's not the cron thing that is the problem :)
[15:31] <x__> wols, this is the script https://bitbucket.org/markstahler/auto-extract-python/src/7ba39f76ebc50e11739300e5fde062312a1732f1/auto-extract.py?at=default
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> wols: i see
[15:31] <x__> the script creates an .unrared file in the dir to state its already done its business and not to do it again, so maybe I can just add a cron job and it will work fine already ?
[15:31] <lmg> brilliant find MestreLion. thank you, I'll take it from here :)
[15:32] <MestreLion> :D
[15:33] <[diablo]> Good afternoon #ubuntu … Does anyone run Ubuntu 12.04 on a Viglen MPC please?
[15:33] <wols> x__: http://shoaibmir.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/pid-lock-file-in-python/
[15:33] <wols> !ask | [diablo]
[15:34] <Daneshvar> hi
[15:34] <[diablo]> wols, rem I did not ask to ask a question
[15:36] <auronandace> !anyone | [diablo]
[15:36] <Dshoe> Hey all, I have an 8GB flash drive I want to use but the last thing I did with it was restore an OS X install disk to it before I sold my MacBook. I tried opening Gparted and I got a message saying "The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes." My options are cancel and ignore, If I hit ignore then Gparted crashes.
[15:37] <x__> wols, so do I just paste that code in to the beginning of the script... ?
[15:37] <x__> wols, sorry experienced linux user, very very novice coder ;-P
[15:37] <JimmyJohnny> Dshoe you should install a bootable image of Ubuntu on a flash drive by itself, thats probably the safest thing to do
[15:37] <Dshoe> JimmyJohnny, and run gparted from there I'm assuming?
[15:38] <NikP> Hello.
[15:39] <JimmyJohnny> Dshoe i am not familiar with gparted, just saying if you want to try Ubuntu from a flash drive maybe its best to format the flash drive FAT32 as one partition, install the Linux image and run from there
[15:40] <Dshoe> JimmyJohnny, your misinterpreting my issue. I need to format this flash drive and can't.
[15:40] <Dshoe> Gparted (common tool) gives me an error and then crashes before creating a new partition table.
[15:40] <JimmyJohnny> Dshoe oh, not sure on that, I just did mine using Windows 7 with a right-click and then "Format"
[15:40] <NikP> Can I test with a command if my other PC in the network is online? (Sorry, I'm not so good in English ;-)
[15:41] <Dshoe> My issue is that this is formatted to an OS X partition table because the last thing I did with it was install a fresh OS X before shipping out my laptop.
[15:42] <Linkandzelda> hello, is there a PAE patch for 32 bit ubuntu to make use of my 16 GB ram on 32 bit machine?
[15:42] <JimmyJohnny> Dshoe, maybe there is a utility like "diskwipe" or something to simply zero out the drive, im a windows users for the most part, but windows 8 has me looking at taking a more serious look at linux
[15:43] <somsip> !pae | Linkandzelda
[15:43] <Linkandzelda> thanks a lot
[15:43] <DJones> Linkandzelda: If you're using 12.10, pae is enabled by default
[15:43] <Linkandzelda> even better than
[15:44] <Linkandzelda> im planning to use it tonight
[15:44] <Connorhd> I'm having a problem with uwsgi on ubuntu 12.04, when I use "service uwsgi reload" it reloads the first time, but not after that, it appears to be because the process name changes from uwsgi to uwsgi-core after the first reload. I'm not sure if there is a good place for me to report this bug?
[15:44] <DJones> Linkandzelda: The details are in the link from ubottu anyway
[15:44] <NikP> Can I test with a command if my other PC in the network is online? (Nice when I use SSH)
[15:44] <x__> NikP, what are you trying to test ?
[15:45] <rihen> hello
[15:45] <NikP> x__: What do you mean?
[15:46] <easy> I have an external hard drive with bad sectors.. my guess that its only the beginning of the disk.. how can I scan for bad sectors and then format the disk away from the bad sectors?
[15:47] <x__> NikP, your question made no sense to me, what are you trying to test through SSH ?
[15:47] <x__> easy, how many bad sectors ? and you can use the gnome disk tool.
[15:48] <NikP> x__: I would use it for remote maintenance
[15:48] <x__> easy, most drives will flag sectors that are bad to not be used, and they have a few extra ones to replace them, I have a 1TB HD that has 1 bad sector that came out of an external drive and has been fine and in usre for several years since then.
[15:49] <x__> NikP, ok, I still don't know what that means, just login via SSH and run whatever commands you want to use.
[15:49] <sevenforall> Hey. Can I use grep to select every file in a directy, except subdirectories and files ending with ".mkv"?
[15:49] <NikP> x__: Yes, that's it.
[15:49] <jrib> sevenforall: you could use grep, but you wouldn't.  You probably want to use find
[15:49] <sevenforall> jrib: Touché
[15:50] <sevenforall> jrib: How do I use find in a way it excludes .mkv files?
[15:50] <jrib> sevenforall: find has -not and -name.  I'd start there
[15:51] <sevenforall> jrib: I can't find anything about the -not option
[15:51] <_val_> Hi again. Trying to compile spice-xpi addon for firefox on precise. I'm getting this error: No package 'libxul-embedding' found
[15:52] <_val_> anyone any idea. Can't find libxul anywhere.. no sources, no ppa's nothing.
[15:52] <jrib> sevenforall: man find<Enter>/-not<Enter>      (where <Enter> means press your Enter key)
[15:52] <manoj> hi
[15:52] <jrib> sevenforall: you can also use "!", but I figured -not would be more self-explanatory :P
[15:53] <jrib> sevenforall: brb
[15:53] <krofna> How do I open executable file as sudo? If I type sudo ./my_executable it wont work..
[15:53] <jrib> krofna: that's how.  So be more specific about how it "wont work"
[15:53] <JMS32> When i'm trying to install ubuntu from USB it's write what can't mount CD
[15:53] <JMS32> What to do?
[15:53] <krofna> jrib: sudo: ./mapextractor: command not found
[15:54] <_val_> krofna: chmod +x ./my_executable  if this is a script.
[15:54] <sevenforall> jrib: I've skimmed through it and googled, are you sure there's a -not? :P
[15:54] <_val_> err.  chmod +x my_executable
[15:54] <jrib> sevenforall: yes... are you on ubuntu?  Why are you skimming and googling, just use the keystrokes I said above
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:55] <krofna> _val_: that doesnt seem to do anything
[15:55] <sevenforall> jrib: The manual doesn't add any useful information, hehe
[15:55] <jrib> _val_: what you said would work too :)
[15:55] <jrib> sevenforall: there are some examples that use !, if you want to search for that. What do you have doubts about?
[15:55] <_val_> jrib: ./my_executable is not a valid filename I guess.
[15:56] <_val_> I mean passing it as a parameter to chmod
[15:56] <krofna> It is. And no, its not a script, its compiled executable..
[15:56] <jrib> _val_: you provide a path to chmod, ./my_executable is fine
[15:56] <sevenforall> jrib: I'm using "find -not *.mkv" which doesn't get me anything but a usage error
[15:56] <JMS32> ActionParsnip, yes. 4bd3270bde86d7e4e017e3847a4af485 All is ok
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> krofna: if you run:  ls  do you see the file?
[15:56] <jrib> sevenforall: you want a -name in there
[15:57] <krofna> Yes
[15:57] <jrib> sevenforall: you also want to probably enclose '*.mkv' in quotes
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: installing server?
[15:57] <sevenforall> jrib: Okay, a bit further now
[15:57] <sevenforall> Thanks
[15:57] <jrib> krofna: it's probably something that tries to run inside the file that it can't find
[15:58] <dr_willis> the thing to rember is the 'shell' is the one expanding wild cards.. unless they are quoted and passed to the command.  sevenforall .
[15:58] <dr_willis> sevenforall:  like    echo *    vs   echo '*'
[15:58] <JMS32> ActionParsnip, yes
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: it doesn't have a desktop UI you know, is that what you desire? It's all CLI based.....
[15:58] <JMS32> ActionParsnip, I'm know what i'm doing, thanks
[15:58] <yup> Hello
[15:59] <sevenforall> jrib: Can I get find to ignore hidden files also? (a)
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: just checking, loads of people install server wanting a desktop system. Calm down
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: let me search some
[15:59] <Pnoexz> JMS32: if you knew what you were doing, you wouldnt be here
[16:00] <yup> I'm trying to mount ntfs partition with mount.ntfs-3g cmd like this
[16:00] <yup> mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows -o uid=0
[16:00] <yup> but after mounting /mnt/windows is owned but user with uid 1000
[16:00] <_val_> so anyone any answer about my question?
[16:00] <savid> Anyone here using Ubuntu-Gnome 12.10?  I'm a bit confused about GOA vs. UOA.
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r
[16:01] <_val_> anyone any idea. Can't find libxul anywhere.. no sources, no ppa's nothing.
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> savid: https://debarshiray.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/goa-why-it-is-the-way-it-is/
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> !find libxul
[16:02] <_val_> ActionParsnip: I am compiling a source which requires this lib.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> _val_: seems to be in the app already, have you ran:  sudo updatedb; locate libxul
[16:03] <_val_> ActionParsnip: done.
[16:03] <_val_> /usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so
[16:03] <_val_> /usr/lib/thunderbird/libxul.so
[16:03] <dr_willis> wonder if its part of the firefox source
[16:03] <_val_> But the source code does not find it.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> _val_: you may need to symlink those back to /usr/lib    to make it be found
[16:04] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get build-deps firefox   should pull in needed dev packages that may have it included.
[16:04] <dr_willis> but that seems overkll
[16:04] <_val_> http://pastie.org/5172451
[16:05] <jrib> sevenforall: sure. just use a similar expression that matches for names that start with a '.'.  And look into -and
[16:05] <_val_> this is the error when compiling
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> _val_: link is broke for me
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> ahh its ok now
[16:07] <_val_> messing for 3 hours now. Can't seem to find anything that works.
[16:08] <javierf_> hi all! Since some days, my indicator-messages is broken in ubuntu 12.10. Well, it was working fine after I upgraded, and now it swithches colour when I get a notification. But when I open it, there are all the rows (one for each status state, unity-mail one, facebook one...), but with blank text: there is nothing, just empty rows. Even, if I get a message, it changes colour and in the message line, it appears the minutes have passed since I got the messa
[16:08] <javierf_> ge, but no text (then, I kind of guess what arrived depending on the row). This happened a week after I tried to configure the colour changing indicator depending of the status. Nothing in google. Someone knows what can be happening? Thanks!
[16:08] <_val_> anyway. Got to go now. I'll check another time.  Thanks ActionParsnip .
[16:11] <TomyLobo> hi
[16:11] <sasori> any nvidia gpu masters in here who can help me with this problem??? You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[16:11] <sasori> asus u30sd gt520m
[16:11] <Aleksander> Hello. Do you know what's wrong with xorg-video-abi-12 on 12.10? Neither -12 or -11 has an installation candidate
[16:11] <TomyLobo> i noticed that the hibernation in 12.04 is disabled by default. and earlier my system booted instead of unhibernating.
[16:11] <Aleksander> sasori, paste your xorg.conf
[16:11] <dr_willis> sasori:  normal routine for me is install the os, 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current' (reboot) then run nvidia-settings.
[16:11] <TomyLobo> is that why it's disabled by default?
[16:12] <sasori> dr_willis: thats exactly what i did to lead me to this problem
[16:12] <sasori> unfortunately
[16:13] <sasori> i then tty out, and stoped ldm, or whatever its called and tried nvidia setting again, no avbail
[16:13] <sasori> Aleksander: not tooo good with that, where can i find that??
[16:13] <dr_willis> i dont even need an xorg.conf for my nvidia ssytem on 12.10
[16:13] <Aleksander> sasori, gksu gedit /etc/xorg.conf
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> TomyLobo: as far as I know, if your setup doesn't support it then it will be disabled
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: not /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:14] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, ow right
[16:14] <Aleksander> my bad, sorry
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: ;)
[16:14] <Aleksander> sasori, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:15] <JMS32> ActionParsnip, i can't find suitable answer in that link..
[16:18] <daschel> I have switchable graphics cards (intel/amd) and have tried installing drivers for them.  when I try to install via additional drivers, i can no longer use any DE besides gnome 2.  everything automatically falls back to it.  installing from the amd website completely breaks the X server.  does anyone have a solution for using gnome 3 with the appropriate graphics driver?  alternatively, I dont particularly do anything in linux that necessitat
[16:18] <daschel> es the amd card, so the intel chip would be sufficient, but the fan seems to run needlessly and I figured that was a driver issue.  would it be better just to use a temp monitor/fan speed control
[16:18] <sasori> Aleksander: thanks for the files dir, where should i paste?
[16:18] <sasori> pm?
[16:18] <JMS32> When i'm trying to install ubuntu from USB it's write what can't mount CD. How to fix it? MD5 is ok. It's server version
[16:19] <Aleksander> sasori, http://pastebin.com/ and then give me a link
[16:19] <sasori> Aleksander: lol... ok... but now cause this totally mangled my setting everything is in huge mode, give me a sec :)
[16:20] <Aleksander> huge mode?
[16:21] <sasori> Aleksander: the resolution is at lowest possible..... since i tried to install nvidia
[16:21] <sasori> Aleksander: http://pastebin.com/SWfeVERj
[16:21] <Aleksander> sasori, what *buntu and/or DM are you using?
[16:21] <xpistos> Hello all. Is there a way that I can pause and ftp download and close the connection that will enable me to come back to the ftp site later and resume the download with out corruption?
[16:21] <Aleksander> xpistos, wget
[16:22] <r0tha> wget has a feature that starts where you left off
[16:22] <Aleksander> and if you don't like the console, you can find basically any download manager out there
[16:22] <r0tha> man wget
[16:22] <xpistos> Aleksander: I will have to check if godaddy allows that
[16:22] <sasori> Aleksander: i just switched to kubuntu 12.10... i couldnt do ubuntu unity anymore... i tried... but i cant.
[16:22] <xpistos> sasori: I went to gnome3 and it was good
[16:23] <Aleksander> sasori, I know that feeling, I just switched to Unity Ubuntu from GNOME Arch
[16:23] <Aleksander> sasori, what's your normal resolution?
 TomyLobo: as far as I know, if your setup doesn't support [hibernate] then it will be disabled
[16:24] <Aleksander> sasori, try "xrandr -s 1280x1024" or whatever your max res is
[16:24] <sasori> Aleksander: yah.... the closest i got was accepting mint with cinnamon, which was nice, but eventually, had to change b/c of hang issues
[16:24] <TomyLobo> i'm on a brand new laptop. the hardware shouldnt be a problem
[16:24] <sasori> Aleksander: yah but that wont allow me to chenge the actual nvidia controls, which is the problem
[16:25] <dr_willis> actually 'brand new' as in just released to the market - can be a bigger problem with drivers...
[16:25] <sasori> Aleksander: basically i need that so i can turn laptop montior offi, shut lid, and use external monitor
[16:25] <Aleksander> sasori, so the problem is that nvidia-xconfig tells you you're not using nvidia kernel module?
[16:25] <Aleksander> sasori, run 'lsmod | grep nvidia'
[16:25] <Aleksander> sasori, brb
[16:26] <roror> Hi. having some trouble with apt-get. the result of apt-get upgrade is here: http://pastebin.com/tAgJcRSR . Can you please help?
[16:27] <sasori> Aleksander: as soon as i open server settings it says i need to run a command as sudo, forget what it is and cant get it, cause it crashed and need to log out.  lol.  anyways, the command you gave me to run outputs this : nvidia              11257759  0
[16:29] <Aleksander> sasori, sudo runs command as a root
[16:29] <bigbadben> I am  trying to install bitcoin qt and this error came up after I installed the PPA and changed the source to mavrrick
[16:29] <Aleksander> as an administrator
[16:29] <bigbadben> https://gist.github.com/4002451
[16:30] <Aleksander> sasori, this means that you have nvidia up and running
[16:30] <Aleksander> sasori, please paste 'sudo nvidia-settings' and tell me what happens
[16:30] <Aleksander> it needs your user passwrod
[16:30] <r33P33r> heya
[16:31] <sasori> Aleksander: You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[16:31] <Aleksander> sasori, hmmm.
[16:31] <sasori> Aleksander: and have run it a few times now
[16:32] <Aleksander> sasori, wait a moment please
[16:32] <daschel> I have switchable graphics cards (intel/amd) and have tried installing drivers for them.  when I try to install via additional drivers, i can no longer use any DE besides gnome 2.  everything automatically falls back to it.  installing from the amd website completely breaks the X server.  does anyone have a solution for using gnome 3 with the appropriate graphics driver?  alternatively, I dont particularly do anything in linux that necessitat
[16:32] <daschel> es the amd card, so the intel chip would be sufficient, but the fan seems to run needlessly and I figured that was a driver issue.  would it be better just to use a temp monitor/fan speed control setup?
[16:32] <sasori> Aleksander: cool, i have to restart again... graphics crashed and went into the old school mode again.... hahahaa
[16:33] <JMS32> When i'm trying to install ubuntu from USB it's write what can't mount CD. How to fix it? MD5 is ok. It's server version
[16:34] <Aleksander> sasori, http://askubuntu.com/questions/61792/you-do-not-appear-to-be-using-the-nvidia-x-serverscreenshot-included ?
[16:35] <Groggster> I need some help getting Firefox plying nice with fglrx. I use Ubuntu 12.04 and the latest versions of all software (this issue is all the same on older revisions of the software though). The problem is that if I use the fglrx driver (which I need to), specific websites crashes Firefox. For instance www.inet.se crashes Firefox every time if the fglrx driver is activated. Any ideas?
[16:35] <Aleksander> sasori, gtg, but good luck with that
[16:36] <searching> Lubuntu 12.04 freeze
[16:36] <cain_> Hello to all.
[16:38] <searching> nobody here
[16:38] <javaJake> searching: not a one
[16:38] <daschel> dont think so
[16:38] <searching> why ubuntu freeze then?
[16:39] <blazemore> What's the name of the binary to launch libreoffice calc?
[16:40] <Groggster> libreoffice --calc
[16:40] <javaJake> searching: there's hundreds of reasons why, but in order to narrow it down, you'll need to be very specific about what you did to get it to freeze. Also, if your question is not getting answered, it may be that the people who could help you are not here.
[16:40] <searching> ok
[16:41] <searching> some time appear blackscreen like it is boot
[16:41] <daschel> does anyone have any experience with switchable graphics cards on a laptop running gnome 3?
[16:41] <searching> Problem : Ubuntu 12.04 freezes , not able to click any button on keyboard or mouse , unable to go to console or reboot. the screen looks 3/4th black and 1/4th grey color. power off is the only option.
[16:42] <mns`> searching, one should "thanks" that to unity desktop
[16:42] <searching> copy/paste from bugs
[16:42] <mns`> searching, mostly
[16:42] <searching> I use Lubuntu
[16:42] <savio> how can i disable windows entry from grup2 boot menu
[16:43] <javaJake> searching: can you navigate to the /var/log folder, open your syslog, Xorg.0.log, and Xorg.1.log files, and paste the contents at this website: dpaste.com
[16:43] <mns`> searching, put xubuntu on you desktop and you'll have a stable and clean system
[16:43] <blazemore> javaJake: we use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:43] <searching> xubuntu have gimp
[16:43] <mns`> searching, sure
[16:43] <blazemore> searching: Can you please open a terminal and run "cat /var/log/syslog /var/log/Xorg* >> /tmp/ubuntulogs"
[16:44] <searching> lubuntu more light
[16:44] <mns`> searching, xubutnu has everything
[16:44] <blazemore> searching: Then run "gedit /tmp/ubuntulogs"
[16:44] <blazemore> searching: And paste the contents into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:44] <searching> ok blazemore
[16:44] <mns`> searching, i should do what javaJake and blazemore is saying
[16:44] <mad-leigh> Kubuntu 12.10  on Asus-P5N73-AM. Works great
[16:45] <mns`> searching, you should do what javaJake and blazemore is saying
[16:45] <mns`> sorry
[16:45] <javaJake> blazemore: that's more intuitive, thank you :)
[16:47] <duri> just loaded 12.10 on a Dell 820 laptop where 12.04 was working just fine. now UI is really slow. is the slowness all determined by Unity and Dash. Will it get faster if I switch to a different windows manager such as Xmonad or Unity 2d ?
[16:47] <savio> will editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg will do thing?
[16:48] <mns`> duri, i would back to 12.04 lts for stability
[16:48] <savio> but how could i comment multi line
[16:51] <iceroot> savio: depending on the editor you are using
[16:52] <savio> iceroot, i'm using nano . but how this is depend on editor
[16:52] <iceroot> savio: i thought your question is "how to comment multiple lines with one command"
[16:52] <JimmyJohnny> has anybody ever tried booting into unbuntu off a usb stick and had 'useable' performance? I did it but was too slow to endure
[16:53] <savio> iceroot, no i just want to disable windows entry from grub menu
[16:54] <Nickeeh> i want to develop a game on Ubuntu, but I can't figure out where glBindFramebuffer() is, for example. Where can I find it?
[16:55] <salvatorek> ciao
[16:56] <Juggie> Hi All... I am running 10.04.4LTS... if I do a dist-upgrade w/ LTS is that going to upgrade me to 12.04.1LTS or 12.10?
[16:56] <searching> a lot of users have this problem
[16:57] <dd_> juggie, I think it will bring you to 12.04
[16:57] <iceroot> Juggie: dist-upgrade will NOT upgrade your ubuntu version
[16:58] <searching> blazemore u are live?
[16:58] <iceroot> Juggie: but the normal upgrade process when you want to upgrade the ubuntu version will bring you to 12.04
[16:58] <savio> iceroot, i add GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true to /etc/default/grub
[16:59] <Gnea> !ppa
[16:59] <dd_> iceroot, juggie, but remember backing up your files, the jump from 10.04 to 12.04 is big so the risk of breakage is higher
[16:59] <Juggie> iceroot, oh I was under the impression it would my mistake.
[17:00] <iceroot> !upgrade | Juggie
[17:00] <Juggie> ah right,  I see now.. 'do-release-upgrade' it mentions it when I og into shell.
[17:00] <Juggie> K, thanks I will read.
[17:03] <gfredericks> does anybody know the name of that program that lets you do text input with the mouse?
[17:03] <gfredericks> it's a cool animated sort of thing
[17:03] <gfredericks> not like clicking keys
[17:04] <gfredericks> it's sooper-cool and I can never remember its name
[17:04]  * gfredericks wants to apt-get install the heck out of it
[17:06] <gfredericks> ah dasher
[17:06]  * mr-david ponder updating 12.04 to 12.10
[17:06] <dr_willis> thats one of santa's raindeers gfredericks .... ;P
[17:06] <gfredericks> dr_willis: I will try really hard to remember at least that fact, and then my task will be much easier next time I forget the name
[17:06] <awaad> I need when my mouse moves over a word in a PDF or a web page to send this word to an a python application which I developed.
[17:07] <awaad> Any one can help ?
[17:07] <dr_willis> without even clicking?
[17:08] <Deluxo> Hello everybody! Does any one know how to user gtk.textbuffer.serializate function??? I've been searching the web for this about a day now, still have no clue
[17:08] <i7c> awaad: that can only be handled by your browser/pdf reader imho.
[17:08] <Deluxo> gtk.textbuffer serialization*
[17:08] <dr_willis> awaad:  seen auto copy to clipbord extensions for browsers. your app could monitor the clipbord i guess.. but that seems like it could grab info/words from anything.
[17:09] <Deluxo> or at least someone maybe knows how to specify mime-type in gtk.textbuffer.serialize ?
[17:10] <Deluxo> i know it has to call Gdk.Atom. But other than that i cannot figure out
[17:11] <n00b982>  wow there are 1700 people here
[17:11] <dr_willis> n00b982:  its a slow day
[17:11] <awaad> i7c, dr_willis: There is some application which implements this methodology called "KTranslator". Introduction on its site says the following:
[17:11] <n00b982> this is a ton of people
[17:11] <n00b982> more than the #freenode channel
[17:12] <dr_willis> n00b982:  seen 3000+ here on release day
[17:12] <n00b982> wow dr_willis
[17:12] <awaad> i7c, dr_willis: There is another application called "KTranslator". Introduction on its site says the following:
[17:12] <awaad> i7c, dr_willis: The main idea behind KTranslator is to translate a word without disturb the application in use. So, when the user selects a word while pressing CTRL key, KTranslator will try to translate the word and show the result in a popup window. It behaves like Babylon for Windows.
[17:14] <cordyceps> anybody else notice that youtube colours are backwards? red is blue and vice versa, skies are orange and skin is gray?
[17:15] <gordonjcp> cordyceps: yeah, known bug
[17:15] <cordyceps> is there a fix?
[17:15] <gordonjcp> cordyceps: Nvidia graphics card?
[17:15] <cordyceps> yes
[17:15] <Gallomimia> how do i disable apache2 from starting on boot?
[17:15] <dr_willis> cordyceps:  disable hardware acceleration in the flash player settings.
[17:16] <blazemore> Gallomimia: update-rc.d apache2 disable
[17:16] <blazemore> This is reversible by update-rc.d apache2 enable
[17:16] <Gallomimia> ta
[17:17] <MestreLion> lmat: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~software-store-developers/software-center/5.2/view/3074/softwarecenter/db/update.py#L945
[17:17] <Kartagis> !xen
[17:22] <svm_invictvs> Hey, how does one install Jetty 8 on Ubuntu?
[17:22] <svm_invictvs> When I use the package tool, it will install jetty 6, but not Jetty 8.
[17:23] <gordonjcp> svm_invictvs: grab the source and look at how the jetty 6 package works?
[17:23] <svm_invictvs> gordonjcp: So it's not packaged for distribution, is it?
[17:24] <dr_willis> for newer versions  look for a PPA, or in backports
[17:24] <svm_invictvs> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jetty8
[17:24] <svm_invictvs> I see that...
[17:24] <savid> I'm following this guide for customizing an ubuntu package: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb .  How do I change the --configure args within this process?
[17:25] <svm_invictvs> dr_willis: What is ppa?
[17:26] <awaad> i7c, dr_willis: Do you have any idea, where to start ?
[17:26] <dr_willis> !ppa
[17:26] <i7c> awaad: read the source code of this other appliciation you talked about?
[17:27] <awaad> i7c: It is written in C++ which I don't have good knowledge about.
[17:27] <munim> Hey.. I am having a bit of an issue with virtual box. I had an ubuntu guest with NAT and Host only networking set up on my ubuntu host.. I updated to ubuntu 12.10 today, and installed virtualbox again and set up the guest with the same VDI. the guest ubuntu doesnt seem to have any network adapters set up now
[17:28] <bekks> munim: You could join #vbox as well.
[17:28] <munim> bekks, thanks
[17:28] <i7c> awaad: well i think it will be difficult to do such a thing without knowing C++ tbh ...
[17:29] <husberd> please help,on lubuntu Desktop shows all contents of 'home' folder, how can i disable this?
[17:29] <savid> Ah, nm.  looks like I need to edit debian/rules
[17:32] <dr_willis> husberd:  the pcmanfm docs at wiki.lxde.org mention the Desktop Path and your exact issue.
[17:33] <dr_willis> wiki.lxde.org/en/pcmanfm/#desktop_path
[17:33] <zoktar> has there been any issues with pulseaudio causing video players to segfault recently?.
[17:34] <dr_willis> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/PCManFM  Desktop Path section. ;)
[17:34] <husberd> dr_willis:  what can i do friend, please help me
[17:35] <dr_willis> husberd:  err.. read that url? they give the exact fix....
[17:35] <dr_willis> If your desktop displays the files of your /home/ and not the files on your real Desktop path, you probably do not have an established path "Desktop". To fix this please do the following:.....
[17:37] <dr_willis> my user-dirs.dirs file is here --->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326964/
[17:37] <husberd> dr_willis:  thanx i try
[17:38] <simplew> something very wrong is happening here, i jsut restarted Network Manager and now only lists my wifi network, can anyone help?
[17:38] <leosacc_> sera ragazzi
[17:38] <svm_invictvs> dr_willis: It looks like the jetty8 stuff is in there.
[17:38] <svm_invictvs> oh well
[17:41] <tomy222> Hello, I have installed windows7 and ubuntu12.10 on my PC, but grub will not be loaded at startup. I have tried to reinstall grub with a live key to /sda . The installation reported no problem but after the installation I could not found grub on /sda. What could be the problem?
[17:41] <omsairam> what the hell is this
[17:42] <omsairam> anybody here
[17:42] <omsairam> who can tell me what is it exactly
[17:42] <mad-leigh> there are people here, just post and wait
[17:43] <omsairam> what is happening
[17:43] <omsairam> ?
[17:43] <omsairam> here please tell me somebody
[17:43] <Erik_D> ...if you don't know, why are you here?
[17:43] <omsairam> hey Erik can u help me
[17:43] <Pelo> omsairam, this is a support channel for the ubuntu linux distribution
[17:44] <svm_invictvs> I guess my big question is, why is this package listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/java/jetty8
[17:44] <svm_invictvs> but I can't use apt-get install libjetty8-java
[17:44] <Erik_D> how exactly does one "accidentally" end up in an IRC room?
[17:45] <Okoder> hey guys, having a network problem
[17:45] <Okoder> it was working fine, not sure what changed. i can ping my local ip, but not my Gateway
[17:46] <systems7> hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?
[17:47] <systems7> hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?
[17:48] <GraceBT> #seamonkey
[17:50] <gordonjcp> systems7: have a look at how upsd works
[17:50] <gordonjcp> systems7: most "dumb" UPSes use a relay contact between one of the flow control pins and ground
[17:50] <tomy222> Grub will not laoded at startup http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327006/
[17:50] <gordonjcp> systems7: obviously this means you can abuse it to do something when a button is pushed
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, You are missing part of grub see this link for using the bootrepair tool on purging and reloading grub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Purging_.26_Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[17:55] <Gerowen> Question, when I do apt-get update I get an error from one of the repositories, I'm guessing it's where I initially attempted to install skype from the software center before downloading it from their site.  What effect would disabling this repository have?
[17:55] <Gerowen> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/commercial-ppa-uploaders/skype/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.191 80]
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, You need the grub bootloader in sda that is the HD mbr, it has windows there now, I assume the bootrepair loads it.  You can chroot to the ubuntu install and do all of this from a command line as well.
[17:59] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: yes I have already done but without sucess
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, Done what?
[18:00] <lloowen> Hello all. Does anyone know where I can find the repository URL's for 11.04 so that I can copy and paste them into /etc/apt/sources.list?
[18:00] <wols> Gerowen: no effect
[18:01] <wols> tomy222: you need to (re)install grub
[18:02] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: I have tried to reinstall grub from ChRoot enviroment
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, using a 12.10 cd?
[18:02] <overclucker> lloowen: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[18:02] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: yes
[18:03] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: yes from usb kez
[18:03] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: yes live key
[18:03] <lloowen> overclucker: Thanks but that does no longer have 11.04
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, did you run apt-get purge grub-pc grub common apt-get install grub-pc grub-common
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, basically as one line it can be run as apt-get purge grub-pc grub common && apt-get install grub-pc grub-common
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, THen when asked where to put grub it would be sda
[18:06] <juril> Hi there.. I'm setting up serial console access for ubuntu 12.10.. I refer to the documentation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto), but /etc/event.d/ttyS0 doesn't seem anymore the right place for the upstart script. I think the right place now is /etc/init.d/, do I need to change anything regarding the script itself? Thanks!
[18:06] <_cronus_> lloowen, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com
[18:06] <trism> juril: /etc/init/ for upstart scripts now
[18:07] <hm> Hi! I did a fresh ubuntu install on my comp but for some weird reason, my grub is over-written as soon as I restart my comp. Any clue what might be the problem?
[18:07] <arlo> hello are there are nice people some can help me to open port 80 on my router
[18:07] <arlo> we can use teamwiewer to remote..
[18:07] <trism> juril: see the karmic and newer section of that wiki page
[18:07] <hm> I'm on windows right now btw. can go to ubuntu via live-usd if needed
[18:07] <rephy222> anyone know how i uninstall a script
[18:07] <juril> trism, /etc/init is full of .conf files.. I put my ttyS0.conf there.. just this?
[18:07] <trism> juril: yes
[18:08] <juril> trism, cool! thanks :)
[18:08] <rephy222> i got a dnsproxy. script so i could enable wildcards in my hosts file
[18:08] <cool_boy> HI guys!
[18:09] <Dandao> hi
[18:09] <rephy222> and it didnt work out so well anyone know how i could remove it
[18:09] <cool_boy> I want to intall ubuntu 12.04 from removable disk
[18:09] <cool_boy> for that which setup I need .iso or what?
[18:09] <frenk_> lista
[18:09] <dr_willis> rephy222:  how did you install it?
[18:09] <gordonjcp> rephy222: how did you insta
[18:09] <gordonjcp> heh
[18:09] <rephy222> it was a python script
[18:09] <dr_willis> cool_boy:  you can put the iso in a 'live' setup on excternal media you then boot/install from
[18:10] <dr_willis> rephy222:  thats telling us very little.
[18:10] <rephy222> cool_boy: yeah u need an iso and i would use unetbootin to install it on a thumb drive
[18:10] <dr_willis> cool_boy:  12.10 only has the desktop or server iso's :) if you want a desktop install iuse the desktop...
[18:10] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux has alternatives to unetbootin as well to make a bootable external install usb.
[18:11] <overclucker> lloowen: it looks like natty is still in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ so, as long as you use the official repos, you can replace the dist with natty and it should work
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> hm, Boot the ubuntu live cd get this app and just run the bootinfo summary and post the url to it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:11] <arlo> hello are there are nice people some can help me to open port 80 on my router, we can use teamwiewer to remote.
[18:11] <lloowen> overclucker: That's exactly what I've just done :) Thanks
[18:11] <rephy222> i added 127.0.0.1 *.local, 2404:6800:8005::62 *.blogspot.com to my hosts file
[18:12] <rephy222> then i ran the script
[18:12] <dr_willis> arlo:  check the docs for your router for port forwareding.. or that portforwarding.com web site
[18:12] <rephy222> python dnsproxy.py -s 8.8.8.8
[18:12] <blakes> Does anyone know if there is a CUPS alternative for 12.04.  Cups (1.5) crashes whenever a printer is added, whenever a Mac prints a postscript job and if three people submit a job at the same time.
[18:12] <linkandzelda> hi guys, im having real trouble still installing on a mac mini 2011. I cant boot the installer either via cd or usb, and i cant even boot into Plop bootloader. what else can i do? rEFIt is installed and ive followed the wiki guide. thanks in advance
[18:13] <arlo> dr_willis i have tryed, but i think i missing little think.
[18:13] <dr_willis> rephy222:  if all it edited was your hosts file. then check that file and undoo its changes.. or check the scripts docs and see if it has a undo feature
[18:13] <rephy222> i got the link to the site
[18:13] <rephy222> already tried that
[18:13] <rephy222> the script did some other changes
[18:13] <bantu> Hey. After upgrading to 12.10 I see panels on the lock screen. This is suboptimal. How do I fix that?
[18:14] <onewithhammer> having an issue with chmod, i have three users on my system. two are in the same group. the two that are in the same group i want to share a file with the other user, so in termal i typed in chmod 750 for the file and folder and when i am on the other account i can not access that file
[18:14] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: ok I have tried again. Now I have the problem to fetch the server
[18:15] <overclucker> lloowen: you should probably upgrade, natty is at end of life as of last week.
[18:16] <rephy222> http://serverfault.com/questions/118378/in-my-etc-hosts-file-on-linux-osx-how-do-i-do-a-wildcard-subdomain
[18:16] <rephy222> i cant browse the web for some reason
[18:16] <rephy222> thats the site where i got the script
[18:16] <roror> hi all. I am getting the following error when I run apt-get upgrade : http://pastebin.com/tAgJcRSR . any help?
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, you have any errors you can pastebin, not sure why you would not get the server if your computer has access to the net.
[18:18] <arlo> hello are there a nice people some can help me to open port 80 on my router, we can use teamwiewer to remote.
[18:18] <roror> any help? http://pastebin.com/tAgJcRSR
[18:19] <n00b982> geez Ubuntu has a huge community
[18:20] <onewithhammer> having an issue with chmod, i have three users on my system. two are in the same group. the two that are in the same group i want to share a file with the other user, so in termal i typed in chmod 750 for the file and folder and when i am on the other account i can not access that file
[18:20] <n00b982> wouldn't 777 work?
[18:21] <onewithhammer> 777  is owner group world
[18:21] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327102/
[18:21] <onewithhammer> i do not want other non group users able to open file and folder
[18:21] <rephy222> so change the permissions
[18:21] <onewithhammer> thats what i am trying to do
[18:22] <rephy222> try 755
[18:22] <onewithhammer> i do not want the other user that is in a different group able to open the file or folder thats why i set it to 0
[18:23] <rephy222> first number is root second is non root and third is any other
[18:23] <rephy222> do     chmod 755 filename
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, Is the computer on the net?
[18:23] <onewithhammer> so instead of chmod do chown?
[18:23] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: yes
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, Can you hard plug it ti the router?
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> to*
[18:24] <manoj> hi
[18:24] <blakes> onewithhammer: make sure that the folder is owned by the shared group
[18:24] <onewithhammer> Hello
[18:24] <blakes> your mode is ok
[18:24] <manoj> hi
[18:25] <onewithhammer> the folder is in the user1 home folder
[18:25] <blakes> onewithhammer: the home folder above is not accessible by the group so the inherited rights won't work
[18:26] <rephy222> any ideas dr_willis:
[18:26] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: Yes I could do, but then I lose the connection to the chat
[18:26] <blakes> onewithhammer, the home folder above your shared folder must be 777... that would be bad
[18:26] <onewithhammer> this is what i typed in termal" chomd 750 /home/user1/work_file
[18:27] <onewithhammer> this is what i typed in termal" chomd 750 /home/user1/work_file/work-sheet
[18:27] <rephy222> dont think 0 is valid
[18:27] <ekaj> http://i.stack.imgur.com/72SyK.png - any ideas?
[18:27] <rephy222> what do u want the permissions to be onewithhammer
[18:27] <frenk_> salve
[18:27] <onewithhammer> user3 read and execute
[18:28] <onewithhammer> and the world nothing
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, Is the usb you are on hitting the net?
[18:28] <rephy222> so its 755
[18:28] <rsumi> i'm running ubuntu 12.04 and i want 12.10. is there a way to do a clean install without a cd rom or usb stick? i have the iso downloaded on the computer
[18:29] <onewithhammer> but other users will be able to access the file if i do 755?
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> rsumi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[18:31] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: No
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, Hard plug the computer then try the grub install, I assume you have purged it.
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, You can restart a chat I have to go anyway to vote, I'm in the US.
[18:33] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: Ok I can try but I m definitly connected to the internet
[18:33] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: I can ping google
[18:33] <kev^> i can ping google too
[18:34] <tomy222> kev^: wow
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, Cool, I am not real experienced here other then to know the commands, it looks like maybe the repo it is calling is incorrect, I don't really know how to fix that from a chroot.
[18:36] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: ok thanks
[18:36] <horsefeathers> I am trying to get gdm to work again. Gives me the error to the effect of "failed to aquire Org.gnome.DisplayManager" I have reinstalled gdm and unity and gnome and the gdmm problem perists.
[18:36] <livingdaylight> hallo, I am using Mate
[18:37] <livingdaylight> I seek google calendar integration and used calendar indicator ppa http://www.atareao.es/ubuntu/software-para-tu-ubuntu/calendar-indicator-o-como-tener-la-fecha-en-el-panel/
[18:37] <livingdaylight> but don't know if it is for unity only or can be used in Mate
[18:37] <rephy222> onewithhammer: try this      chmmod user=rwx filename
[18:38] <k1l_> livingdaylight: for mate support better try the mint support
[18:38] <k1l_> !mint | livingdaylight
[18:38] <svm_invictvs> SO Jetty 8 on Ubnuntu Server
[18:38] <svm_invictvs> What am I missing here?
[18:38] <svm_invictvs> sudo apt-get install jetty8 ought to do it correct?
[18:39] <dfgas-cr48> when i apt-get purge mysql-server it does not remove all the databases and such, how do i do this?
[18:39] <k1l_> ubottu: !find jetty8
[18:39] <gordonjcp> svm_invictvs: maybe just jetty?
[18:39] <dfgas-cr48> i want to clean everything out
[18:39] <svm_invictvs> gordonjcp: That's Jetty 6
[18:39] <gordonjcp> svm_invictvs: maybe jetty 8 isn't packaged
[18:39] <gordonjcp> svm_invictvs: what is it, anyway?
[18:39] <k1l_> svm_invictvs: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=jetty&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all
[18:39] <svm_invictvs> http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/java/jetty8
[18:40] <svm_invictvs> gordonjcp: That link I pasted would lead me to believe it is
[18:40] <k1l_> svm_invictvs: which server do you got?
[18:40] <svm_invictvs> k1l_: sec
[18:40] <gordonjcp> svm_invictvs: <shrug> I didn't see it
[18:40] <k1l_> if its not 12.10 it doesnt have the jetty 8.xxx
[18:40] <svm_invictvs> k1l_: Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[18:41] <svm_invictvs> Ah..
[18:41] <k1l_> svm_invictvs: then there is only jetty 6 like you can see in my link above
[18:41] <livingdaylight> k1l_: mint is using ubuntu
[18:41] <livingdaylight> k1l_: mint channel dead
[18:42] <k1l_> so either you consider an upgrade to 12.10 (which is not lts, and i wouldnt recommend) or you find a ppa for that
[18:43] <gordonjcp> livingdaylight: mint (and mate) aren't supported here, but give the instructions on that link a go and see what happens
[18:43] <ekaj> WOO it worked
[18:43] <Hammerhead2010> HI all
[18:43] <Hammerhead2010> What is happening with init...
[18:44] <Jinxed-> how do you set an interface back to dhcp from command line
[18:44] <Hammerhead2010> nothing is working in 12.04 like it did in 11
[18:44] <Hammerhead2010> set it??? you mean so if you reboot it gets dhcp?
[18:44] <k1l_> livingdaylight: the mint channel is on antother irc network. see the message. and mint and mate are not supported here. ask the mint guys they should know whats up
[18:44] <Guest35155> am i connected?
[18:45] <Hammerhead2010> I installed sysv-rc and aptitude says it's there....but there is no executable
[18:45] <Guest35155> whats the best program to shut down my kids computer from mine?
[18:45] <Hammerhead2010> So frustrating
[18:45] <rsumi> wilee-nilee: i followed the instructions to boot from an iso but grub is not prompting me to select where to boot when the computer starts. it just has the computer splash screen
[18:45] <rsumi> suggestions?
[18:45] <svm_invictvs> k1l_: Why not just upgrade?
[18:46] <Hammerhead2010> And why is /etc/network/interfaces not being looked at anymore....
[18:46] <k1l_> svm_invictvs: most server admins prefer the stable and long term support releaases
[18:46] <Hammerhead2010> almost makes me wnat to go back to Gentoo....
[18:46] <rsumi> because my system is all messed up from performing upgrades. gnome and xfce are unstable
[18:46] <k1l_> Hammerhead2010: it is. but if there is nothing edited in it the NetworkManager does the work
[18:47] <lissyx> Hello
[18:47] <ignacio__> hello, install doom3 but only opens with 32bit colors and I have 16 bit, is there a command to run with 32bit colors without having to configure the xorg.conf?
[18:47] <lissyx> did someone noticed Xorg cpu spikes when using gnome-terminal .
[18:47] <lissyx> ?
[18:47] <svm_invictvs> !ppa
[18:47] <k1l_> Hammerhead2010: for most user its way easier to let the interfaces alone and configure the network through the NM. but you can use the interfaces if you want. just go ahead
Thats the part that's killing me...there is I have 2 interface manually configured...yet the routes(static) i have in it do not get looked at... This was not a problem in 11
[18:48] <ignacio__> hello, install doom3 but only opens with 32bit colors and I have 16 bit, is there a command to run with 32bit colors without having to configure the xorg.conf? please help
[18:48] <__SUCKER__> hi
[18:48] <svm_invictvs> k1l_: Honestly, fuck it, i'll just manually install Jetty 8
[18:48] <unrar> One quick question; my 2GHz CPU was shown as 800MHz with lscpu, then with Granola I "overclocked" it to 2000MHz (which is what it should be), is it normal?
[18:49] <__SUCKER__> no, it's not. you're a phrik
[18:49] <__SUCKER__> freak
[18:49] <k1l_> !ops
[18:49] <ignacio__> hello, install doom3 but only opens with 32bit colors and I have 16 bit, is there a command to run with 32bit colors without having to configure the xorg.conf? please help
[18:49] <DJones> !guidelines > __SUCKER__
[18:49] <svm_invictvs> k1l_: thanks
[18:49] <__SUCKER__> !guidelines
[18:49] <unrar> some intelligent answer? :P
[18:50] <__SUCKER__> who the fuck cares about guidelines?
[18:50] <k1l_> can some op please kick the obviuos troll?
[18:50] <bekks> unrar: You were mislead by the default power management...
[18:50] <unrar> Yay ;D
[18:50] <Hammerhead2010> All I want is the /etc/network/interfaces to be looked at the GUI NM is crap. I tried to disable the network manager with sysv-rc or bum...but sysv-rc apt-get install does not produce a binary....
[18:50] <unrar> In other distros such as... Mint, I think, it didn't happen
[18:50] <bekks> unrar: Then Mint has no reasonable power management.
[18:51] <unrar> another thing, if I have installed a NVIDIA driver, why does the CPU activity increases from 8% to 50% when I put the mouse over the launcher?
[18:51] <lissyx> Hammerhead2010, just declare your interface normally in interfaces(5) and nm won't touch it
[18:51] <Guest38790> which version of java should i use for  my brwoser and application..?? jdk7 or jre7 ?
[18:52] <bekks> Guest38790: As long as you dont want to develop Java applications, you'll be fine with the JRE.
[18:52] <MrBushido> are there any good tools for ext filesystem integration with windows explorer? I know its kind of off topic, but i figured people in here are more likely to know than #windows
[18:52] <Guest38790> bekks : i dont want to develop application
[18:52] <k1l_> Hammerhead2010: im not too much into the network stuff to know what you fiddled there already. but from a clean install: if you configure an interface the NM doesnt touch it.
[18:53] <MrBushido> are there any good tools for ext filesystem integration with windows explorer? I know its kind of off topic, but i figured people in here are more likely to know than #windows
[18:53] <MrBushido> ugh, sorry, missclick
[18:53] <bekks> MrBushido: No.
[18:53] <Benxyzzy> Anyone know of a quick way I can find out if my shell is sitting inside a screen session? Sometimes I forget :/
[18:53] <bekks> Benxyzzy: press ctrl-a-d
[18:53] <Benxyzzy> bekks: You're saying, if I'm not in a screen it'll do nothing?
[18:54] <bekks> Benxyzzy: Correct.
[18:54] <Benxyzzy> Sorry for the obvious question
[18:55] <Guest38790> which version java should i install openjdk-jre or openjdk-jdk?
[18:55] <sava> !list
[18:56] <Leoneof> is there a way to download all packages for offline purpose?
[18:56] <Leoneof> like DVDs
[18:58] <bekks> Leoneof: All packages would need about 80GB.
[18:59] <Leoneof> bekks: i guess it's almost ~40 Gb
[18:59] <rephy222> say i run a script that makes some changes is there some sort of log to read to find out whats been done
[18:59] <bekks> Leoneof: Still far too much to put on a DVD.
[18:59] <Guest38790> which is the fastest cd/dvd burner?
[19:00] <Leoneof> bekks: separating them? :/
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> rsumi, I have never booted with a ISO from grub so I can't really help there, but if you make a thread on the UF right now with booting ISO from grub problem I suspect you will get a quick answer.
[19:00] <rephy222> because i ran a script from this site http://code.google.com/p/marlon-tools/source/browse/tools/dnsproxy/dnsproxy.py
[19:00] <rephy222> and its slowing down my connection
[19:00] <brandon420> can someone help me install nightingale?
[19:01] <chipotle> will any touchscreen laptops work with ubuntu? thanks!
[19:01] <tomy222> wilee-nilee: /etc/resolv.conf was not setup in ChRoot env
[19:01] <nb-ben> hi is there a way for me to use 2 different workspaces on 2 monitors?
[19:01] <brandon420> chipotle, yeah, they will.
[19:01] <nb-ben> so that each monitor uses a different workspace
[19:02] <brandon420> nb-ben, that would be cool, but i dont think that you can.
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> tomy222, I had wondered if the chroot was good.
[19:02] <chipotle> brandon420 what drivers do you need to get the touchscreen capability?
[19:02] <chipotle> i can't find anything online...
[19:02] <nb-ben> yeah I don't think so aswell so I figured I'd ask
[19:02] <brandon420> i have been using dual monitors for awhile and never seen a option like that.
[19:02] <nb-ben> maybe someone found a way :D
[19:02] <nb-ben> I think you could run 2 different X clients on them
[19:03] <rephy222> i was trying to edit my hosts file so i could use wildcards and i think it turned on a proxy and i wanna turn it off
[19:03] <nb-ben> I mean X servers
[19:03] <nb-ben> one for each monitor
[19:03] <nb-ben> but that would be completely different X environment
[19:03] <systems7> hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?
[19:03] <nb-ben> systems7, try ##hardware
[19:03] <brandon420> chipotle, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/quantal/xinput-calibrator/
[19:05] <linkandzelda> damn, can really nobody help me?
[19:05] <brandon420> what was your question?
[19:05] <vvpalin> your all alone, everyone else has been taken over by the zombie apocalypse
[19:06] <brandon420> i always knew link would be the last one standing.
[19:06] <linkandzelda> regarding mac mini 2011, doesnt even get to the grub bootloader when booting from CD or USB
[19:06] <vvpalin> sorry linkandzelda its just you, me and some crafty bots
[19:06] <brandon420> Yeah, I know nothing about macs, sorry man
[19:07] <jtrucks> vvpalin: good thing I prepared for the ZA!
[19:07] <abdostar> hello, I am about to install ubuntu, and I have a question about swap partition, do I really need, and does it really improve performance
[19:07] <brandon420> Did you make sure that you were booting to the right device? linkandzelda
[19:08] <brandon420> abdostar, how much ram do you have? ssd or standard hdd?
[19:08] <dfgas-cr48> how do i reconfigure a package like when it first installs?
[19:08] <linkandzelda> brandon420, natrually, it wont even boot the Plop bootloader cd either
[19:08] <linkandzelda> just gives me a black screen
[19:08] <abdostar> 4Gb and HDD
[19:08] <linkandzelda> im totally gutted ;/
[19:08] <rephy222> is there anyway to do like a restore on ubuntu to undo any changes within a timeperiod
[19:08] <abdostar> brandon420: 4gb and HDD
[19:09] <brandon420> abdostar, I don't see why you would need a swap space. But since you have a hdd, there would be no adverse effects of having it except the losing the space.
[19:10] <brandon420> linkandzelda, I would check the the bois settings. I have never touched a mac, so i dont know how much different they would be. Sounds like it is looking in the wrong place to me.
[19:11] <abdostar> brandon420: thank you, that's help. I was using linux mint, and worried about the GUI, will that be a challenge for me untill I get used to it
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> rephy222, Ubuntu does not have a restore function like windows. You might try explaining the problem in the form of a question.
[19:11] <linkandzelda> brandon420, it is looking in the wrong place, but its actually skipping the drives and trying to boot a windows partition whuch isnt there. the probem is, macs have no bios
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> not to me but the channel
[19:12] <systems7> hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> dfgas-cr48, You need to tell the channel what the package is.
[19:13] <brandon420> abdostar, it should be alright. If you are new to linux i would start with ubuntu (the most documented distro) But mint is pretty user friendly from the get-go
[19:13] <brandon420> linkandzelda, let me google really fast.
[19:13] <rephy222> i installed a dnsproxy python script to allow wildcards in my hosts file and now i cant browse certain websites
[19:13] <dfgas-cr48> wilee-nilee, mysql-server
[19:13] <rephy222> and i wanna undo whatever the script did
[19:14] <abdostar> brandon420: thank you, sine all is clear now, I wil start formating and installing, see you guys later
[19:14] <rephy222> http://code.google.com/p/marlon-tools/source/browse/tools/dnsproxy/dnsproxy.py    this is the script
[19:14] <brandon420> abdostar, you are welcome, good luck!
[19:14] <linkandzelda> brandon420, ive been googling for almost 1-2 days now. but get this. as soon as i mention mac people have no idea, and i cant find a solution
[19:15] <linkandzelda> so, let me ask this
[19:15] <linkandzelda> what if it wasnt a mac?
[19:16] <brandon420> you would just change the boot order in the bois.
[19:16] <brandon420> it is much easier.
[19:16] <brandon420> have you tried holding down the "C" key while restarting it?
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> dfgas-cr48, I would ask in #ubuntu-server if you get no answer here.
[19:17] <linkandzelda> brandon420, iĺl try holding that C key i havent
[19:17] <brandon420> i see a few documents that say todo that
[19:17] <brandon420> http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Snow_Leopard_Installation_Instructions.pdf
[19:18] <rdk> sudo ln -s /path/to/phantomjs /usr/bin is not working for me. What wrong i am doing here?
[19:19] <linkandzelda> brandon420, black screen. cd starts spinning then stops, nothing
[19:19] <brontosaurusrex> linkandzelda: also if you are in osx, there is an option in prefs, for what will be next boot device
[19:19] <linkandzelda> brontosaurusrex, thanks, but using the alt key lets you select the device you want at boot, and thats what i been doing
[19:19] <brontosaurusrex> that should work
[19:20] <coz_> hey guys, I need to disable wallpaper fade in 12.04, the gtkrc thing  doesnt seem to work here.. any other suggestions?
[19:20] <brandon420> linkandzelda, are you sure that you made the disc correctly?
[19:21] <rdk> sudo ln -s /path/to/phantomjs  /usr/bin is not working for me in ubuntu. What wrong i am doing here? please help.
[19:22] <linkandzelda> brandon420, i used the same disc and same USB to install it on my macbook air
[19:22] <linkandzelda> you can see why this is making me rage, there is no reason why its not working
[19:22] <rephy222> rdk: what are u trying to do
[19:23] <brandon420> linkandzelda, i feel your pain. I really have no idea what to do...
[19:23] <brandon420> linkandzelda, I will get back to you in a couple of minutes. What model is it?
[19:23] <linkandzelda> mac mini 2011. thanks
[19:24] <linkandzelda> HEY
[19:24] <linkandzelda> WHAT
[19:24] <linkandzelda> IT BOOTED
[19:24] <FloodBot1> linkandzelda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:24] <brandon420> FloodBot1, fu
[19:24] <brandon420> woooooottt
[19:24] <brandon420> what did you do?!
[19:24] <linkandzelda> i unplugged one of my usb hdd
[19:24] <brandon420> lmfao
[19:24] <brandon420> that could have been the issue.
[19:24] <SailorMoon> this is fake right? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[19:25] <rdk> rephy222:  I want to run a phantomjs scripts on my linux box, I have downloaded it and just want to run scripts.
[19:25] <brandon420> (always unplug all extra hardware when installing a new os)
[19:25] <brandon420> SailorMoon, i dont think so.
[19:26] <SailorMoon> brandon420: it was last edited today, and, Ubuntu on an Android device? Psh.
[19:26] <rdk> rephy222:  i can runt it now but for that I have to give a absolute path of phantomjs while running script from anywhere on machine.
[19:27] <brandon420> SailorMoon, there are alot of people that install ubuntu to their tablets, and phones.
[19:27] <coz_> hey guys, any way to stop wallpaper fade?
[19:27] <SailorMoon> brandon420: but not as a legit OS
[19:28] <SailorMoon> brandon420: They install ontop of Android. this is replacing android
[19:28] <coz_> on 12.04
[19:28] <brandon420> coz_, Thanks for helping me install cairo-dock awhile back. =)
[19:29] <brandon420> SailorMoon, oh, i have no idea then. Try it and let me know?
[19:29] <coz_> brandon420,   no problem, that must have been a while way back :)
[19:29] <SOLEIL> hi I want to know what's the best ubuntu for my netbook
[19:29] <SailorMoon> brandon420: feel free to smite me, but im not running ubuntu so i cant do it
[19:29] <coz_> SOLEIL,  I would assume the 12.04 LTS  ,,yes?
[19:30] <coz_> SailorMoon,  you are now smitten
[19:30] <SailorMoon> lol
[19:30] <brandon420> 12.10 isn't bad.
[19:30] <coz_> wait that means something else ;)
[19:30] <SailorMoon> ;)
[19:30] <SailorMoon> i would love the heck out of ubuntu, if it was real. Need to offer an actual installable rom instead of this weirdness
[19:30] <SOLEIL> I'm not sure about it, I always have to fix a lot of things to make all work
[19:30] <brandon420> and coz_ I think that the fading backgrounds are just a setting in the background settings.
[19:31] <coz_> brandon420,  ah I will check,, thanks
[19:31] <brandon420> I noticed that there is a time symbol on the ones that change.
[19:31] <coz_> brandon420,  well I dont mean the changing wallpapers I mean just the fading  when chaning from one to the other , but let me check
[19:31] <rdk> reph
[19:32] <bjrohan> Can someone explain to me ffmpeg and/vs avconv. When trying to run ffmpeg, I get a message to use avconv instead. I want to record my desktop with audio.
[19:32] <coz_> bjrohan,   last I tried ffmpeg worked fine, I just dont have the command for it at the moment
[19:32] <coz_> ffmwepg record desktop
[19:33] <systems7> hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?
[19:33] <dougl> how do I start an application on my secondary display?
[19:33] <coz_> bjrohan,   here is one link   http://infinitelygalactic.blogspot.com/2011/12/recording-your-linux-desktop-with.html
[19:34] <OerHeks> dougl, i used to use devilspie for that
[19:34] <OerHeks> !info devilspie
[19:35] <bjrohan> coz_ when I run the command on that page, I get the standard use avconv message, then an error that the .mkv file that I am trying to create doesn't exist. Well DUH
[19:35] <coz_> dougl,  is this a twinview set up or sepearate x screens
[19:35] <dougl> OerHeks, I used the command line before (i prefer) but I cannot remember...
[19:35] <dougl> coz_, twinview
[19:35] <dougl> xbmc full screen
[19:35] <coz_> bjrohan,  mm darn,, I just havent used ffmpeg for this for a while,,, did you google the error?
[19:35] <gglitch> Hello Ubuntu people. I recently installed kubuntu-desktop, and having logged into it once, whenever I instead log into Unity as usual, my right-click context menu (among a few other submenus, like the save-as menu) looks like kwin. Any idea why that is and how I can revert it to Unity?
[19:35] <brontosaurusrex> bjrohan: perhaps visit #ffmpeg and ask ther
[19:36] <coz_> dougl,   you can open applications on any dispaly using compiz  with the settings manager
[19:36] <dougl> coz_, no command line for that?
[19:36] <brontosaurusrex> bjrohan: the version bundled is outdated and borken (thats what ffmpeg people say at least)
[19:36] <bjrohan> I shall brontosaurusrex I was looking here for the avconc message :-)
[19:36] <coz_> dougl,  I am sure there is,, just dont recall at the moment
[19:36] <dougl> I want xbmc to be on display 2 every boot
[19:36] <bjrohan> brontosaurusrex: I have downloaded a static version
[19:37] <dougl> coz_, k thaanks
[19:37] <brontosaurusrex> bjrohan: then it sounds like you are using the wrong one
[19:37] <coz_> dougl,   as i said that sould be able to be accomplished with compiz and xbmc in the start up apps
[19:37] <coz_> but
[19:37] <coz_> dougl,  you would have to test it
[19:37] <Guest58315> salut a tous
[19:38] <bjrohan> brontosaurusrex: the one that I have from the repo, that does work okay. I will switch to the Static built one and give it a go
[19:38] <Guest58315> c'est quoi la commande pour changer de pseudo ?
[19:38] <Guest58315> how can i change my nickname
[19:38] <Guest58315> ?
[19:38] <delinquentme> how to get the list of groups a user is a member of?
[19:38] <brontosaurusrex> Guest58315: /nick MSLovah
[19:39] <TheLaughingMan> thc
[19:39] <TheLaughingMan> thx
[19:39] <overclucker> delinquentme: the groups command?
[19:41] <overclucker> delinquentme: or grep -e 'username$' /etc/group
[19:45] <SailorMoon> Still no one here educated on that ubuntu nexus page?
[19:46] <SailorMoon> it has a bugzilla page so it has to be real
[19:46] <SailorMoon> but why no rom
[19:47] <k1l_> SailorMoon: what do you mean?
[19:47] <husterd> pleaseplease help! after upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 the login screen cannot  appear? please help
[19:47] <SailorMoon> Aparently Ubuntu is officially available on the Nexus 7 tablet, k1l_.
[19:47] <k1l_> SailorMoon: yes i know. but which page are you talking about?
[19:47] <bjrohan> If someone can help with ffmpeg error I would appreciate it. I keep getting an error unknown import format alsa
[19:47] <SailorMoon> And im INSANELY interested in getting it but im running windows and the instructions are for ubuntu. i plan to try virtualbox later but still, it should be able to install itself  like anyrom
[19:47] <bjrohan> No one is in #ffmpeg
[19:48] <k1l_> SailorMoon: ah, now we come to the point of interest.
[19:49] <SailorMoon> k1l_: My main point being, why no rom installer, so that it can install itself?
[19:49] <k1l_> SailorMoon: you can ask the arm guys if there is a rom. #ubuntu-arm
[19:49] <Pelo> afternoon folks, I'M running gnome shell and I need to delete my current gnome-panel and make a new default one , the current one is un-responsive to alt-click and keeps popping up over full screen videos
[19:52] <husterd> pleaseplease help! after upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 the login screen cannot  appear? anyone?
[19:53] <Pelo> husterd, does it just freeze when the login screen should appear or do you just go straight into the desktop ?
[19:54] <Moopington> Hey, I just finished installing the gnome shell on a minimal ubuntu install, and I can't figure out for the life of me how to get to a terminal… :\
[19:54] <Pelo> Moopington, either from the application menu or crtl-alt-T
[19:54] <SailorMoon> k1l_: Theyre all dead now.
[19:54] <Moopington> Pelo: that was the first thing i tried.. there's no terminal application, and ctrl-alt-t does nothing..
[19:55] <ThinkT510> !eol | husterd
[19:55] <husterd> Pelo:  no if i reboot it shows the screen that says out of range and still like that
[19:55] <Pelo> Moopington, alt-f2 gnome-terminal
[19:55] <Moopington> I'll try that. thanks. :P
[19:55] <Pelo> husterd, that's beyond my expertise
[19:56] <Pelo> husterd, can you get to a console ? crtl-alt-f1 throught f6 ?
[19:57] <husterd> Pelo:  now i am working on a live cd and chating with you
[19:57] <Pelo> husterd, try installing instead of upgrading that might solve many problems
[19:58] <husterd> Pelo:  how coz i dont like to loose my folders on home
[19:58] <dougl> how do I start xbmc on my secondary display in my nvidia/twinview config in kde on my kubuntu 12.10 installation?
[19:58]  * Moopington sighs. "Command not recognized"
[20:00] <unheeding> is there a channel for GNOME3 Ubuntu users?
[20:00] <unheeding> I don't want to hang out with people using unity
[20:01] <Pelo> husterd, sorry , I was assuming that your /home was on a seperate partition , they you would not loose it , if this is above your skill level use the live cd to copy your /home to some other media ( usb key for exemple), then reisntall, you can then copy the /home data back to your hard drive
[20:03] <husterd> Pelo:  so there is another way not to make format?
[20:04] <Pelo> husterd, that's my best solution, someone else might know better,  try booting into the install you have now and seeif you can get into the console mode , from there maybe someone else can help you fix it
[20:04] <svm_invictvs> exit
[20:04] <svm_invictvs> whoops
[20:05] <Guest47081> i am trying to mount my windows harddrive on ubuntu, however fdisk and gparted do not see the HDD.  It sees my other harddrives and I do have NTFS configuration tool installed and set to read ntfs
[20:07] <subman> Can someone help me setup printing over internet?
[20:07] <bekks> Guest47081: Then take a look at dmesg to check whats wrong with your windows drive.
[20:08] <bkfitz> Can someone tell me why port 1720 is showing as open on my server?  I'm using ufw but only allow 22, 80, etc
[20:08] <bekks> lsof -i
[20:08] <bkfitz> nmap shows 1720 open?
[20:09] <bkfitz> server is ubuntu 10.04 server
[20:09] <bekks> lsof -i on your server.
[20:09] <unheeding> has anyone found a cure for kswapd0 running at 100% CPU?
[20:09] <unheeding> i've searched high and low but haven't found a solution
[20:09] <bkfitz> lsof doesn't exsit on ubuntu server
[20:09] <unheeding> the only thing that stops it is  reboot
[20:09] <bkfitz> i guess i can apt-get it
[20:09] <wols> bkfitz: sudo netstat -anp |grep 1720  which process owns the port?
[20:10] <bkfitz> nothing
[20:10] <wols> then it's not open
[20:10] <bkfitz> nmap says it is though
[20:10] <mih1406> Why I have to buy FlareGet even it is an open source program?
[20:10] <bkfitz> nmap 66.288.57.208
[20:10] <onewithhammer> bkfitz are tou on windows?
[20:10] <wols> nmap is a crap software which is utterly useless for what you are trying to see
[20:11] <Guest47081> bekks, humm not sure what I am looking for
[20:11] <wols> bkfitz: can you connect to the port?
[20:11] <bkfitz> negative... ubuntu 12.04 laptop
[20:11] <bkfitz> wols: how should I try
[20:12] <wols> bkfitz: are you saing this port is open on  telnet  66.288.57.208 1720
[20:12] <wols> ?
[20:12] <bekks> Guest47081: For errors/hints what happened to your windows drive.
[20:12] <bkfitz> wols: i guess
[20:12] <bkfitz> wols: I'm confused
[20:12] <wols> bkfitz: really. IP 66.288.57.208 ?
[20:12] <wols> that is not a valid IP
[20:12] <bkfitz> wols: yes
[20:13] <bkfitz> wols: sorry 66.228.57.208 typo
[20:13] <randybo> Hey, I was wondering if I backup using the backup that comes with ubuntu 12.04 will it back up all my settings also? like compiz settings?
[20:13] <bekks> randybo: Depends on how you configure it.
[20:13] <randybo> how can I got about it so it does?
[20:13] <Guest47081> bekks, here is my dmesg output.
[20:13] <wols> bkfitz: telnet 66.228.57.208 1720  tries to connect to the port you say is open. it won't connect cause it is not
[20:14] <Guest47081> bekks, opps sorry here you go http://pastebin.com/JBqbyrLQ
[20:14] <bkfitz> wols: then why would nmap show it open?
[20:14] <wols> bkfitz: cause it's faulty and has bugs or you are not able to use it properly
[20:14] <randybo> bekks: how can I go about it so it does?
[20:14] <bekks> Guest47081: How many disks do you have?
[20:15] <bkfitz> wols: all I'm doing is nmap IP :)
[20:15] <bkfitz> wols: maybe faulty/bugs???
[20:15] <bekks> randybo: I have never used that tool, I am creating backups with my own scripts, fitting my personal needs.
[20:15] <TomyLobo> grahh, i hibernated my laptop, wanted to power it up in the train to play some games, but somehow the stupid ecrypt lost my user folder... Logging in as usual, i get an unwindowmanagered windows saying "Call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?). Check your installation."
[20:15] <wols> bkfitz: I ran nmap on it just now. and you have postgresql open to the world. bad idea
[20:15] <bkfitz> wols: temporary
[20:16] <bkfitz> wols: i know
[20:16] <TomyLobo> logged in via console, all that's to be found is some random crap explaining me to use ecrypt-mount-userdata or something
[20:16] <bkfitz> wols: it's a linode hosted box with no UI... so i open it temporarily to use pgadmin
[20:16] <Guest47081> bekks, I have a RAID5 hard drives that Ubuntu sees fine (3 partitions 4 GB, 1 GB , and 605 GB - these have an old version of Kubuntu installed) and I have a seperate physical HDD directly plugged into one of my SATA ports on my motherboard (this is the one with Windows installed)
[20:16] <TomyLobo> (which failed too, btw... said my password is wrong)
[20:16] <wols> bkfitz: learn to configure a VPN
[20:17] <onewithhammer> wols: did you scan him?
[20:17] <wols> yes I ran nmap on his host to check what he said about port 1720. and he was wrong: nmap doesn't show that port open at all
[20:18] <bekks> Guest47081: You are mixing up "partitions" and "drives" in a way I dont understand how many drives you have.
[20:18] <AndChat560000> Hi
[20:18] <bekks> Guest47081: How many physical disk drives do you have?
[20:18] <bkfitz> wols: :)
[20:18] <bkfitz> wols: ufw deny 5432. done
[20:18] <wols> bkfitz: but for the future, a VPN would be a good idea (imho)
[20:19] <wols> bkfitz: or even a ssh port forward
[20:19] <bkfitz> wols: agree... just never done it and haven't had time.. .but that nmap result is weird... did you see 1720 when you ran it?
[20:19] <wols> same for the proxy if it is one, and of course disable ftp altogether. you have ssh, that's enough :)
[20:19] <Guest47081> bekks, sorry I have 4 total drives (3 are in a RAID 5 array using a MegaRAID PCI controller) and the forth is the one with Windows only installed... so total of 4 physical drives
[20:19] <wols> bkfitz: no nmap
[20:20] <bkfitz> wols: huh... ok thx :)
[20:20] <wols> bkfitz: whenever nmap shows a port, use telnet or nc to connect to it, to see if it actually responds.
[20:20] <bkfitz> wols: good policy thx
[20:20] <wols> and when you own the host in question, always use sudo netstat -anp |grep LIST
[20:21] <bekks> Guest47081: Then why do we see 3 drives, while (since you are using a HW raid controller) we should see only 2 drives (the RAID and the 4th drive)?
[20:25] <Guest47081> bekks, the raid is split into 3 logical drives (4GB, 1GB swap, 605 GB) via the PCI card, I also am running Ubuntu LiveCD through a  USB stick (4GB)...... my missing WIndows HDD is 250GB
[20:25] <bekks> Guest47081: Then pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l please
[20:26] <randybo> If I am looking to back up my settings and all my programs what folders would I want to put into my backup?
[20:26] <Guest47081> bekks, here you go: http://pastebin.com/SeF1Vsfr
[20:27] <wols> randybo: all
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> randybo  for all you programs, use dpkg --set-selections
[20:28] <TaJMoX> Help! ALT+TAB and ALT+F4 doesn't work anymore. Any ideas on what I can try to fix it? Ubuntu 12.04
[20:28] <TomyLobo> My user folder's contents disappeared. now all i see is Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop, .ecryptfs, .Private and README.txt
[20:28] <TomyLobo> and i cant log in with KDE anymore, only text mode
[20:28] <TomyLobo> kubuntu 12.04 LTS
[20:29] <TomyLobo> i tried ecryptfs-mount-private, but it doesn't accept my user account password
[20:30] <bekks> Guest47081: There are four drives. Should be enough ;)
[20:31] <zoktar> almost all my video players crash while playing mkvs and mp4's anyone else have issues like this?
[20:32] <wols> !errors | zoktar
[20:33] <Guest47081> bekks, yes I see 4 but there should be 5-- sda1=4GB Thumb drive with Live CD on it, sdb1=4GB ext3, sdc1=1GB swap, sdd1= 634GB ext3, what it does not show is my 250GB NTFS
[20:34] <TomyLobo> google says "When you originally ran ecryptfs-setup-private, you were asked for two things. Your Login Password, and a file encryption key."
[20:34] <TomyLobo> i was never asked for a file encryption key!
[20:35] <Bsims> I am having problems with wireless... wlan0 is not created, and is not availible... lsusb shows the device correctly, ath9k_htc is loaded but no joy
[20:36] <Guest47081> bekks, if it helps here is my lshw output: http://pastebin.com/BH4MVUDZ
[20:36] <delinquentme> how can I run a grep for "---" as a literal?
[20:36] <TomyLobo> -- then ---
[20:36] <TomyLobo> i think
[20:37] <wols> Bsims: pastebin your dmesg output
[20:37] <Bsims> wols: I am under windows at work, it appears I have hit this problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/173457/usb-wi-fi-netgear-wnda3200-unable-to-allocate-urbs-error
[20:37] <kev^> i have a question. how can non-root users shut down a system? for example, XBMC can shut down the system as a normal user.
[20:37] <jrib> delinquentme: grep -- "---"
[20:37] <kev^> just a general linux question i suppose
[20:38] <TaJMoX> Help! ALT+TAB and ALT+F4 doesn't work anymore. Any ideas on what I can try to fix it? Ubuntu 12.04
[20:38] <mr_david> delinquentme: grep "\-\-\-"
[20:38] <mr_david> kev^: sudo
[20:38] <bkfitz> wols: RE vpn do you recommend OpenVPN
[20:38] <delinquentme> and then what if i need to make it recursive?
[20:39] <wols> bkfitz: yes
[20:39] <bkfitz> wols: this is a production server... do I need to worry about messing things up... should I try on our test box here :)
[20:39] <wols> bkfitz: or for the short term, quick fix, a ssh port forward
[20:39] <bkfitz> wols: ssh port fwd?
[20:40] <bkfitz> wols: 22 - 5432
[20:40] <wols> bkfitz: never noticed any problem but since it's a VPS, I dunno how the virtualization is handled. OpenVPN needs to create a kernel network interface for itself of course
[20:40] <bkfitz> wols: won't that route all traffic on 22 to 5432
[20:40] <TaJMoX> kev^ It's because the user is in the ACPI group (/etc/group)
[20:40] <mr_david> delinquentme: grep -R
[20:40] <TaJMoX> kev^ that gives him permission to use shutdown
[20:41] <Bsims> Ah it appears its a kernel bug, its being loaded as a bulk usb
[20:41] <bkfitz> wols: apparently they support it : http://library.linode.com/networking/openvpn :)
[20:41] <wols> bkfitz: no it won't. you designate a single port on your client end, and everything you send to this local port will get forwarded to the pgsql port on the remote machine
[20:42] <TaJMoX> kev^ Wait, there is no acpi group on this OS. So it must be the sudo group or adm group.
[20:42] <Bsims> wols: thanks anyway... lol just got to run a wire to see if I can get a kernel update to get the wireless to work
[20:43] <bekks> Guest47081: You can see four disks.
[20:43] <Aurelio> Mount raid on... what?
[20:44] <bekks> Aurelio: ... a mountpoint.
[20:44] <Aurelio> like what ?
[20:44] <Aurelio> whats a good idea ?
[20:44] <bekks> Aurelio: /mnt/myraid
[20:45] <Aurelio> hmm, alright cool, thanks. Still not getting the hang of Linux file systems
[20:45] <Guest47081> bekks, i must be missing the other disk, what is it listed as /dev/sde1?1?
[20:45] <bekks> Guest47081: sde would be the 5th disk.
[20:47] <RealOptyz> How can i make it so when i use my tv, to auto select 720p mode? plz and ty in advanced :)
[20:47] <Guest47081> bekks, humm well sda1 = thumb drive, sdb1 = ext3, sdc1 = swap, sdd1  = ext3   .... still not seeing NTFS
[20:48] <systems7> hello, does anyone now how to set up a 2 pin button switch to a serial port?
[20:48] <bekks> Guest47081: Did you triple check the cabling?
[20:48] <systems7> how to set up a 2 pin push button switch to an internal serial heddeR?
[20:49] <bekks> !patience | systems7
[20:49] <systems7> huh?
[20:49] <systems7> i only asked once
[20:49] <wols> systems7: how is this ubuntu support related?
[20:49] <Guest47081> bekks, yes... if I reboot and go to my bios and set the Windows Harddrive to boot first, than Windows boots fine
[20:49] <bekks> systems7: At least two times. At 214820 and 214852
[20:49] <systems7> becuase its gonna trigger an ubuntu commoand
[20:50] <Guest47081> bekks, I even tried new SATA cables on all my drives
[20:50] <TaJMoX> RealOptyz use the ATI or Nvidia control software?
[20:50] <bekks> Guest47081: Which Ubuntu do you use exactly?
[20:50] <TaJMoX> RealOptyz I don't know how to do it if you have an Intel card.
[20:50] <wols> systems7: that doesn't make it ubuntu related at all. sounds more like something for #electronics or #hardware
[20:50] <RealOptyz> Yes im aware of that
[20:50] <RealOptyz> I was hoping for a command line approach
[20:50] <systems7> wols: thanks
[20:51] <TaJMoX> RealOptyz For me, when I'm using my monitor it automatically chooses 1920x1200 and when I turn on my TV it selects 1280x720 automatically (ATI)
[20:51] <Guest47081> bekks, currently I am running off a Live CD.  on the EXT3 drives it has a old 8.xx Kubuntu version
[20:51] <RealOptyz> I was kind of reading about xrandr. Maybe there is a way to set a 'preferred '
[20:51] <Guest47081> bekks, sorry the livecd is Ubuntu 12.10
[20:53] <lloowen> Hello all! Can anyone point me to a good tutorial about how to change a kernel from the command line as I want to change the kernel on my VPS, if that is at all possible!
[20:53] <RealOptyz> TaJMoX: When using my TV it likes to auto select 1366*768. quite irritating lol
[20:53] <bekks> lloowen: It isnt, since the kernel image is built by your ISP, to fit their needs.
[20:54] <bekks> lloowen: So unless your ISP provides a new package for you, you'll have to stay on that kernel.
[20:54] <lloowen> bekks: Hmmm I figured something like that was happening. I changed from 10.04 to 11.04 but the kernel was the same!
[20:55] <wols> bekks: wouldn't that depend on the kind of VPS? e.g. he might run under a Xen one
[20:55] <dbugger> Hey guys. I have connected my Playstation to the aux in, on my computer. How can I make that the audio comes out through the speakers?
[20:55] <physically_fit> hi friends
[20:55] <bekks> lloowen: Because updating the release will not update the kernel automagically.
[20:56] <bekks> wols: And without a domU kernel, he'll break his VPS. :)
[20:57] <lloowen> bekks: I suspect my VPS have rigged it so that it is practically impossible to set up a tun/tap interface or even run openSwan
[20:57] <chris_is_me> so is there a way to disable screen blanking that works better than installing xscreensaver as with xscreensaver running when i reopen my laptop lid it never wakesup
[20:58] <Jaime> dbugger: you should enable the mic output and turn up the volume, did you do it?
[20:58] <sudokode> chris_is_me: xset
[20:58] <dbugger> How do I do that?
[20:58] <bekks> lloowen: Well, then you have to contact their support, I guess.
[20:58] <dbugger> Jaime, Im not sure how to do that in Ubuntu
[20:58] <Jaime> you should open the audio preferences in the system setup
[20:58] <chris_is_me> sudokode: doesn't work tryed that
[20:58] <physically_fit> dbugger, i don't know if this can help you, but i was reading this today; it helped me to listen to my mic through my speakers: http://blog.flipzu.com/2011/02/how-to-mix-voice-and-audio-on-ubuntu.html
[20:59] <aleksandar22> anyone got tunngle running with or without wine
[20:59] <chris_is_me> i'm using 12.10 upgraded from 12.4
[20:59] <aleksandar22> or any unoffical way to connect to tunngle networks
[20:59] <chris_is_me> setting in control panel are completly ignored
[21:00] <dbugger> Jaime, i rightclick on the speaker icon and I open "Sound Settings" Over there in the Input tab theres nothing really to enable
[21:00] <physically_fit> dbugger also you'll need this command too, to unload the numbers (modules) you'll get: pactl unload-module <number>
[21:00] <soman> Hi guys. Tell me please any good app for recording video from desktop. Ubuntu 12.04
[21:01] <physically_fit> dbugger, are you listening to me? did you check that link i gave you?
[21:01] <Jaime> dbugger: i think physically_fit, it's on the right way
[21:02] <Gerowen> Can anybody provide me with a good Linux alternative to Skype for calling land-line phones from your computer or smart-phone?
[21:02] <dbugger> physically_fit, Im reading it, wait
[21:02] <Gerowen> Skype is just letting me down over and over.
[21:02] <AlexNagy> Gerowen: why? It works, sort of.
[21:03] <physically_fit> dbugger anotate this command too, or you'll get too many sound streams: pactl unload-module <number>
[21:03] <dbugger> physically_fit, but isnt that article for the "mic" jack?
[21:03] <dbugger> I have the console on the aux-in jack
[21:04] <physically_fit> dbugger, yeah, that's why i said i wasn't sure if that could help you, but it may guide you somewhere....
[21:04] <Gerowen> It works well enough for calls to other skype users, but for some reason when I've tried using it to interact with land-line phones it doesn't ring half the time when people call, sometimes when I call a number I know is correct I get re-routed to a random person, and more often than not when someone does answer when I've called them the phone stays totally silent and I have to hang up and call back a 2nd time.
[21:04] <physically_fit> over the rainbow
[21:04] <dbugger> I already did it once in the past, even though Im not sure how
[21:04] <dbugger> Im sure it was nothing like that
[21:04] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know how I can fix Ubuntu's networking?  after a broken update, my Ubuntu can no longer connect to wireless or wired networks.  the icon just keeps trying to connect and fails always.
[21:04] <AlexNagy> Gerowen: I've not had that issue calling landlines. ):
[21:04] <Samus_Aran> currently I am manually using "dhclient eth0", but that disconnects every couple minutes
[21:05] <dbugger> I remember typing some sort of command in the terminal, which showed me something similar to the alsamixer, but with lot more channels. Turning one of them up fixed the issue
[21:05] <physically_fit> dbugger, also the command alsamixer you can enable the tracks you need
[21:05] <RealOptyz> How can i make it so when i use my tv, to auto select 720p mode? plz and ty in advanced :)
[21:05] <Gerowen> I didn't used to, it's weird.  I use it primarily on my Android phone which seems to be where most of the problems happen.
[21:05] <RealOptyz> nvidia drivers
[21:05] <AlexNagy> Gerowen: ah
[21:06] <physically_fit> hi bipolar
[21:06] <dbugger> physically_fit, in the alsamixer there isnt anything that can help me
[21:07] <physically_fit> dbugger, i dunno, i been researching since today only this thing
[21:08] <zoktar> !pastebin
[21:09] <Samus_Aran> dbugger: ALSA provides no wrapping for the mixer items, meaning that it is whatever the hardware provides.  this is often non-sensical to humans.  sometimes you need to adjust two or even three mixer controls to actually do what you want.
[21:10] <dbugger> Samus_Aran, Id adjust 20 if I knew which ones :P
[21:11] <Samus_Aran> dbugger: and make sure they're all unmuted (press 'm' so there are no "MM" items below the mixers)
[21:11] <Greg___> I was wondering if anybody can help me with a question?
[21:11] <Samus_Aran> dbugger: I missed the part where you said what you were trying to do.  record, play sound?
[21:11] <bekks> !ask | Greg___
[21:12] <Samus_Aran> Greg___: it would be easier to help you with an answer.  :)
[21:12] <Greg___> The sudoers file on a ubuntu box has been corrupted, and Policykit is not on the machine ... how can I fix the box without reloading the entire box
[21:13] <Greg___> Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS is what I am running on the machine
[21:13] <bekks> Greg___: "has been corrupted" - how?
[21:13] <Samus_Aran> Greg___: did you ever add a password for root?
[21:13] <Greg___> no password for root, and the sudoers file was changed
[21:13] <bekks> Greg___: How was it changed...?
[21:13] <Samus_Aran> Greg___: you will need to boot from CD, then chroot to your distro.  this way you will be root user, and can install packages and so forth
[21:13] <Greg___> using nano adding a new user to the file
[21:14] <Samus_Aran> reinstall the packages you messed up
[21:14] <zoktar> sample output from vlc segfaulting, almost all other players segfault similarly http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327544/
[21:14]  * nydel wonders why so many people running lucid are coming in for support lately
[21:14] <bekks> Samus_Aran: He cant, with a messed up sudoers file.
[21:14] <bekks> Greg___: And did you change the existing entries?
[21:14] <Samus_Aran> bekks: please re-read what I suggested.  it does not use sudo.
[21:14] <Greg___> Ok so boot from CD than chroot, and then I will be able to edit that file right
[21:15] <bekks> Greg___: And did you change the existing entries?
[21:15] <Greg___> no I did not change what was already there
[21:15] <Greg___> I just added a new line
[21:15] <Samus_Aran> Greg___: what line did you add?
[21:15] <bekks> Greg___: Then why cant you just use sudo then, with your old user?
[21:16] <Samus_Aran> strange to remove permissions from your user.  :)
[21:16] <TomyLobo> my laptop (less than a week old, kubuntu 12.04 LTS, crypted home folder since installation) fails to mount the crypted home folder. hibernate failed to resume about 5 times, i think that's relevant, too.
[21:16] <Greg___> I get this error /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 10 <<< sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 10 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[21:16] <TomyLobo> how do i recover my data?
[21:16] <Greg___> it is weird, and that happens no matter what username is used
[21:17] <BluPhenix316> hey when i try to boot the ubuntu 12.10 cd it just boots to a blackscreen with a grub prompt
[21:17] <bekks> Greg___: Thats not weird. sudo doesnt work as long as the sudoers file contains unparseable errors.
[21:17] <Greg___> ahh ok
[21:17] <bekks> Greg___: You have to use a live cd, revoke your changes and try again.
[21:17] <Greg___> ok
[21:18] <chitra> Hi all
[21:18] <linkandzelda> Yay, I'm finally on Ubuntu
[21:18] <BluPhenix316> is my ubuntu 12.10 cd corrupt or is it a problem with uefi?
[21:18] <chitra> I just installed ubuntu 12.04
[21:18] <chitra> I am not able to download python packages for it
[21:18] <physically_fit> linkandzelda, 12.10 or 12.04?
[21:18] <Greg___> is Policykit-1 default or is that something I have to download seperate
[21:18] <linkandzelda> physically_fit, 12.10
[21:18] <linkandzelda> and I'm using Xchat
[21:18] <chitra> I am trying sudo apt-get install python-dateutil
[21:19] <BluPhenix316> linkandzelda, gratz, i can't even get the live cd to boot
[21:19] <bekks> Greg___: Did you remove it? Why do you need it to be installed?
[21:19] <BluPhenix316> it just seems me to a grub prompt
[21:19] <chitra> it says :0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 48 not upgraded.
[21:19] <ms_choudhary_200> chitra what error are you getting?
[21:19] <linkandzelda> BluPhenix316, what device?
[21:19] <kate_r> hi
[21:19] <kate_r> if a deploy a production server, should i fire it up inside a screen? or is there a better way?
[21:19] <chitra> seems like already installed
[21:19] <Samus_Aran> BluPhenix316: you could try the alternate install CD
[21:19] <chitra> it is happening with all the packages
[21:20] <Greg___> No I did not remove it, but I know that is another way to fix the problem if that is installed.
[21:20] <BluPhenix316> Samurs_Aran: what is that? I've tried burning the ISO to a disc and writing it to a usb stick and same thing
[21:20] <chitra> sudo apt-get install postgresql
[21:20] <bekks> Greg___: Thats no fix at all for a broken sudoers file.
[21:20] <BluPhenix316> what is the alternate install cd?
[21:21] <bekks> Greg___: since root has no pw set, you cant login as root.
[21:21] <Samus_Aran> BluPhenix316: sometimes the default install CD has issues with the graphics card in the system and ends up without a visible screen.  in those cases, there is the alternate install CD that doesn't have graphics.
[21:21] <Samus_Aran> BluPhenix316: it uses a semi-graphical text mode installer that is fairly easy to follow
[21:21] <Greg___> ahh ok
[21:22] <Greg___> Thank you very much
[21:22] <chitra> ms_choudhary_200: sometimes I am getting error like this
[21:22] <ms_choudhary_200> my college network administrator blocks chat on irc. How can i connect? Tried with tor, didn't worked.
[21:22] <chitra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327567/
[21:22] <Samus_Aran> Greg___: boot from CD, check if your Ubuntu system is auto-mounted (it should be), then from a terminal do: sudo chroot /mnt/whatever
[21:22] <BluPhenix316> Samurs_Aran: the problem i'm having through is, complicated, I had it working before, I was dual-booting between windows 7 and windows 8(i hate it, but it was a required school project), I installed ubuntu overtop of windows 8 but couldn't get back into 7, so i installed windows 8 again, removed windows 8 from windows boot manager and tried to reinstall ubuntu and now the disc just sends me to the grub prompt
[21:23] <Samus_Aran> Greg___: then you can do "visudo" to edit the file
[21:23] <BluPhenix316> i really can't stand uefi but i'm stuck with it for now
[21:23] <linkandzelda> BluPhenix316, do you have a mac or a pc?
[21:23] <trism> chitra: did you run: sudo apt-get update; yet?
[21:23] <Greg___> Awesome :) thank you
[21:23] <BluPhenix316> linkandzelda: pc, Alienware X-51
[21:23] <chitra> no
[21:23] <linkandzelda> i see
[21:24] <Samus_Aran> BluPhenix316: GRUB is installed to your hard drive, if it's booting from CD there is no GRUB involved.  it sounds like your BIOS is not booting from the CD
[21:24] <trism> chitra: then do it and try again
[21:24] <chitra> trism : i was getting same in sudp apt-get update too
[21:24] <Samus_Aran> BluPhenix316: do you have to press some key to choose to boot from CD?
[21:24] <chitra> but now it is showing me there are some updates
[21:25] <chitra> trism: why does that needs, I mean I have just downloaded ubuntu12.04 ,is not a updated one?
[21:25] <BluPhenix316> no
[21:26] <BluPhenix316> and its not grub, i installed mint fine but i was hoping to install ubuntu
[21:26] <linusoleander> Can I specify a pid file when using "nohup" ?
[21:26] <bekks> linusoleander: No.
[21:26] <BluPhenix316> i know its a uefi issue but i'm running out of ideas
[21:26] <Samus_Aran> BluPhenix316: what?  you said it goes black on a GRUB screen.  there is no GRUB on the Ubuntu install CD at all, it uses I think ISOLinux
[21:26] <linusoleander> bekks: Do you know anything similar to nohup which makes it possible to specify a pid file?
[21:27] <trism> chitra: you have to run that after you first install to download the latest package index, otherwise you won't be able to install most packages
[21:27] <bekks> linusoleander: Specifying a pid file will not help you at all. A pid file is not a running process, but a file.
[21:27] <chitra> trism: thanks
[21:27] <linusoleander> bekks: Yes, i know. But I need to pid for the process that's being started
[21:27] <linkandzelda> now I've installed Ubuntu I have no idea what to do next lol
[21:28] <BluPhenix316> Samus_Aran, when i put the cd in, it goes to a grub prompt, if i don't have the cd in, i can choose either a windows boot manager or mint
[21:28] <bekks> linusoleander: You cant predict the PID that is gonna be used.
[21:28]  * Descriptioned Hello Moto ¶
[21:28] <BluPhenix316> and the grub prompt says grub version 1.99something something ubuntu something hehe
[21:28] <physically_fit> ikonia, friend, are you here?
[21:28] <chitra> trism: I was thinking to install the packages and start my work and later ,updates can run , So it is not a right way?
[21:28] <linusoleander>  bekks I want to tell the current application to use a specific file as pid pile
[21:28] <linusoleander> *file
[21:28] <Samus_Aran> BluPhenix316: okay, that's news to me that the CD is using GRUB.  I guess GRUB 2 can manage boot CDs
[21:29] <linusoleander> nohup --pid /tmp/prod.pid && kill `/tmp/prod.pid`
[21:29] <BluPhenix316> Samus_Aran: i tried using linux usb creator, which normally uses syslinux, but that uses grub as well
[21:29] <linusoleander> bekks: Like that ^
[21:29] <BluPhenix316> for ubuntu 12.10
[21:29] <bekks> linusoleander: That is not possible as I just stated.
[21:30] <trism> chitra: update doesn't install new packages, just index for the packages, you use apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade; to upgrade the packages
[21:30] <linusoleander> bekks: Why is that, it works with "rackup" for example
[21:30] <BluPhenix316> maybe my iso is just corrupt and i should download another
[21:30] <bekks> linusoleander: I never heard of "rackup" until now.
[21:31] <bekks> linusoleander: And killing a file, not a PID, is just nonsense.
[21:31] <linusoleander> bekks: Yeah, I missed the cat part
[21:31] <linusoleander> bekks: The idea of specifying a pid file for a process isn't strange at all. Why would it?
[21:31] <BluPhenix316> think Secure Boot would effect it any? right now I have secure boot disabled
[21:32] <linusoleander> I can do it for mysql, postgresql, redis and so on
[21:32] <cjoseph> I have some source code I've modified and got running fine. I uploaded the code to github and cloned it to another ubuntu machine, and it won't compole on the second machine. The configure script won't even run, it just prints out this:  syntax error near unexpected token `config.h'
[21:32] <bekks> linusoleander: Because a "pid file" may contain everything - it doesnt have to contain a PID. And a process is not forced to actually create a PID file at all. Thats why it is nonsense.
[21:32] <simplew> i have installed kubuntu, so when runing firefox and clicking to open or save file, in the dialog that apepars does apepars the Documents, Downloads, Pictures, Videos directories, what package i need to isntall to have those dirs appearing in the "Save As" firefox dialog?
[21:33] <Samus_Aran> BluPhenix316: so yeah, I recommend the alternate CD, as it tends to have far fewer issues: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[21:33] <nydel> hmm, mail-notifier is crashing right after i run it. could anyone help me troubleshoot?
[21:33] <BluPhenix316> Samus_Aran: thank you!
[21:33] <Samus_Aran> BluPhenix316: I'm not familiar with secure boot
[21:33] <linusoleander> bekks: Yes, i know that is why I'm asking if there is a wrapper application which can store the pid in a file so I can access it later
[21:33] <dj_corncob> I want to play around with writing client-server sockets.  What should I use in ubuntu to simulate a server on my machine?
[21:34] <skypce> i have a question
[21:34] <linusoleander> I need to know the pid for a specific process to be able to track it
[21:34] <linusoleander> I don't understand why that's strange
[21:34] <skypce> the "--" option is need in kernel boot options?
[21:34] <BluPhenix316> i can't wait for Steam on Linux, if Valve can convince bethesda to make native linux versions of their games through steam, i won't ever need windows again
[21:34] <jrib> linusoleander: so record the pid when you start it, no?
[21:35] <linusoleander> jrib: How?
[21:35] <jrib> linusoleander: how are you starting it?
[21:35] <jrib> linusoleander: and what is "it"?
[21:35] <Samus_Aran> BluPhenix316: it seems they don't have an alternate install CD for 12.10, but they do for 12.04
[21:36] <linusoleander> jrib: Just by calling it. "/usr/bin/mybinary"
[21:36] <BluPhenix316> Samus_Aran: they have the net install mini iso, that should do it, i have a decent wired connection
[21:36] <linusoleander> jrib: It's a bunch of different background processes
[21:37] <jrib> linusoleander: that information is available as some bash variable.  See its documentation.  Better yet, ask #bash as they might suggest to you a better way to do what you want
[21:37] <BluPhenix316> ok lets give this a shot, if it works i'll be back and let ya know if your curious
[21:37] <Samus_Aran> dj_corncob: you can do that lots of different ways.  what's the issue with just running the server and client programs on the same machine?  if you need virtual machines, you can use VirtualBox, QEMU, or there's one that lets you run another Linux kernel/system directly.
[21:38] <nydel> has anyone got m-audio drivers for ubuntu/linux? specifically for a firewire device?
[21:38] <linusoleander> jrib: Yes, I know that. but I need to know the exact possision of the pid file before starting it
[21:38] <jrib> linusoleander: what?  Why is there suddenly a "pid file" involved?
[21:39] <linusoleander> jrib: I need the pid file. Have you ever used monit, god or bluepill?
[21:39] <chitra> trism: is there a differenct in sudo apt-get update and update from update manager?
[21:39] <jrib> linusoleander: no.
[21:39] <Samus_Aran> nydel: if it is not supported by ALSA, give OSS v4 a try, it has a lot of excellent sound drivers
[21:40] <linusoleander> jrib: Anyhow, I need to write a pid file for any background process I start
[21:40] <trism> chitra: no
[21:40] <jrib> linusoleander: I think you should state what your actual goal is.
[21:40] <nydel> Samus_Aran: do you have the appropriate URL to check about ALSA support? & for OSS v4? i'm not familiar with OSS v4 at all.
[21:40] <trism> chitra: well, checking for updates no, but again, apt-get update; doesn't actually install packages
[21:40] <linusoleander> I've a background process that's being tracked by monit. Monit needs the pid file to be able to track it
[21:41] <chitra> trism: what it actually does?
[21:41] <Samus_Aran> nydel: #OSS channel here on FreeNode.  their web site is in the URL.  there's also a wiki page that tells you how to set up apps to use OSS instead of ALSA.
[21:41] <trism> chitra: downloads information about available packages
[21:41] <jrib> linusoleander: so if a program creates a pid file, give monit the pid file.  If a program does not create a pid file, create it.
[21:41] <Samus_Aran> nydel: my browser is lagging, or I'd grab you the URLs
[21:41] <jrib> linusoleander: although I imagine if you ask monit support there may be a "better way"
[21:42] <nydel> Samus_Aran: have you ever heard of a box that takes an hdmi in, & has a bunch of outs? for example, right now i use my laptop & an HDMI out to HDMI1, my television. then i use RCA outs to my firewire M-Audio which is running on a windows desktop over there. & outs from the m-audio go to dual monitor speakers as well as another set of speakers.
[21:42] <Samus_Aran> nydel: years ago OSS (Open Sound System) was the only Linux sound system.  then OSS switched to v3 and became closed-source, so ALSA was invented to fill in the gap.  OSS with v4 went back to open source.
[21:42] <nydel> Samus_Aran: but i would be interested in a box that just takes the HDMI & has a bunch of outs
[21:43] <Samus_Aran> nydel: that sounds like a lot of passing through.  wouldn't that create delays in the sound?
[21:43] <chitra> trism: just info about available packages?
[21:43] <jrib> linusoleander: here read this: http://mmonit.com/wiki/Monit/FAQ#pidfile
[21:43] <trism> chitra: yes
[21:43] <chitra> it takes so many MBs and time?
[21:43] <trism> chitra: there are many many packages
[21:43] <simplew> something is very wrong, if i restart network-manager service i get DOUBLED wifi network entries from network-manager icon
[21:43] <booh->  Fresh install.  I try to access in IMAP, plain text passwd, outside my LAN without success...
[21:44] <nydel> Samus_Aran: no delay, unless i'm experiencing a very pleasing chorus effect, but it couldn't be more than 10ms i doubt, else i'd be able to tell
[21:44] <chitra> trism: may be :/
[21:44] <linusoleander> jrib: I was a bit fast there, I'm not using monit atm, I'm using bluepill. Thanks anyway
[21:44] <chitra> trism: synaptic pakage manager does the same thing?
[21:44] <linusoleander> jrib: But I get the point
[21:44] <trism> chitra: if you click Reload yes
[21:44] <linusoleander> I was hoping that linux had something build in
[21:50] <ubuntu-fan001> hi
[21:50] <Samus_Aran> ubuntu-fan001: hello
[21:51] <Samus_Aran> nydel: I've never used Firewire or USB soundcards, myself, but any time I have issues with ALSA I just switch to OSS v4 and the issues are gone.  :)
[21:51] <ubuntu-fan001> i have some question about setting vpn in ubuntu
[21:52] <gordonjcp> !ask | ubuntu-fan001
[21:52] <ubuntu-fan001> awright
[21:53] <ubuntu-fan001> my bad
[21:53] <ubuntu-fan001> is there a way to setup l2tp vpn in ubuntu
[21:54] <guntbert> ubuntu-fan001: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN ?
[21:55] <dada> cc
[21:55] <ubuntu-fan001> no
[21:55] <dada> ya des francais ?
[21:55] <guntbert> !fr | dada
[21:55] <Multbrelch> :)
[21:56] <chitra> trism: you were right, updates are working now
[21:57] <chitra> :)
[21:57] <trism> chitra: happy to hear it
[21:58] <chitra> :))
[22:00] <chitra> It was too important for me ,I am not sleeping whole night just for setup the system,tomorrow need to leave from here
[22:00] <chitra> :)
[22:01] <chitra> there are soo many packages but all are small in size
[22:01] <chitra> most of
[22:01] <DeathStar> is there a wine help channel?
[22:02] <guntbert> DeathStar: #winehq
[22:02] <ubuntu-fan001> gunbert:so there is no way
[22:03] <ubuntu-fan001> i just look at the link you gave me
[22:04] <guntbert> ubuntu-fan001: well, I have to admit the page is rather old
[22:04] <ubuntu-fan001> yeah
[22:04] <chitra> on other system's ip irc chat is disabled,I get message something like contact to admin ..
[22:04] <ubuntu-fan001> do we have now?
[22:04] <chitra> what I need to do for that?
[22:05] <ubuntu-fan001> the l2tp support for ubuntu
[22:05] <dr_willis> chitra:  what irc client and whats the exact message?
[22:06] <guntbert> ubuntu-fan001: please have a look at http://bailey.st/blog/2011/07/14/connecting-to-a-l2tpipsec-vpn-from-ubuntu-desktop/
[22:06] <eyastaifour> Hi, I need help installing ubuntu please. i have a machine that has Windows 7, can access USB (but cant boot from it), cant access CD/DVD (drive is bunked), and can emulate an ISO as a disk (on Windows 7) :)
[22:07] <ubuntu-fan001> thank u
[22:07] <eyastaifour> anyone up for a challenge ? :)
[22:07] <ubuntu-fan001> i will
[22:08] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/100039/l2tp-vpn-connection-plugin
[22:08] <Belz3buth> hell! :)
[22:08] <Belz3buth> *o x)
[22:08] <chitra> actually what happened with me is , I registered a nick on a system but I was using the nic without register from many days on other system,today after register I went to other computer and opened the irc ,it said the nick is registerd please verify : I started to verify but before it ,I got a message that my ip is blocked for IRC
[22:08] <dr_willis> eyastaifour:  you sure you are making the boot usb thing correctly? does it work in other machines>
[22:09] <guntbert> ubuntu-fan001: dr_willis found more ^^^^
[22:09] <chitra> dr_willis: dont remember the actual message but it was something like I need to contact to admin
[22:09] <eyastaifour> dr_willis:  its an old machine: it cant boot from USB... it has windows on it now, and I copied the ubuntu.ISO on it (via a USB drive)
[22:09] <dr_willis> chitra:  the  register your nick web site from freenode said that? If so ask in #freenode
[22:09] <ubuntu-fan001> yeah
[22:09] <dr_willis> eyastaifour:  i would be amazed that a machine so old it cant boot from USB is even able to run windows 7
[22:10] <ubuntu-fan001> thank dr willis
[22:10] <eyastaifour> dr_willis: im amazed as well.
[22:10] <dr_willis> eyastaifour:  if you got a spare small hard drive you could image the ISO file to the HD plug it in. boot from it then install to a differnt HD i guess...
[22:10] <chitra> eyastaifour: are you jocking?
[22:10] <chitra> :P
[22:11] <eyastaifour> dr_willis: i can not BOOT from USB. in my boot menu, i have: CD, HDD, and network
[22:11] <chitra> dr_wills: yes something like that
[22:11] <eyastaifour> my DVD drive doesnt work. i m not interested in setting up PXE now
[22:11] <dr_willis> eyastaifour:  ive seen usb NOT show up IF the usb flash is not bootable. Ie: not made properly.
[22:11] <eyastaifour> i have windows, and there's an ISO there - ubuntu ISO. and i have a 40 GB unallocated space on the HDD
[22:12] <dr_willis> guess you could try virtualbox and get lucky.. but that is most likely not a good idea to try to do a real install to a real hd from within vbox.
[22:12] <mcoffee> Call me a noob, but I would like to ssh to localhost.
[22:13] <dr_willis> mcoffee:  and whats stopping you?
[22:13] <persona24> Hello, how do I list the other drives in my terminal? I need to access my other hard drive
[22:13] <Jordan_U> persona24: sudo blkid
[22:13] <mcoffee> dr_willis: this is what I get "ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused"
[22:13] <dr_willis> persona24:  mount would show the other drives and mountpoints if they are mounted.
[22:13] <eyastaifour> no virtualization for me. i need it running on the box directly
[22:13] <dr_willis> mcoffee:  you did install the ssh service?>
[22:14] <dr_willis> eyastaifour:  i was hinting at using vbox to do a 'real' install to the hd. you would then boot...
[22:14] <mcoffee> No. I guess I'll give that a try.
[22:14] <dr_willis> mcoffee:  ssh service is not installed by default. ;)
[22:14] <Jordan_U> persona24: That lists partitions with filesystems, which is generally more usefull than listing drives.
[22:14] <mcoffee> dr_willis: is the package `openssh-server` the one I should use?
[22:15] <mcoffee> dr_willis: I mean install.
[22:15] <dr_willis> !sshd
[22:15] <eyastaifour> i've just installed a new bootloader via wbui.exe
[22:15] <persona24> ok, so I enter mount and it just gives me some info I don't really understand
[22:15] <eyastaifour> but since my CD doesnt work, it's not getting me anywhere. although, I have bash (or some shell) now.
[22:15] <mcoffee> ubottu: thanks
[22:15] <dr_willis> persona24:  a list of the various filesystems and their mountpoints..
[22:15] <eyastaifour> can i use this to access my NTFS partition where my ubuntu ISO lives, mount it, and then run an install ?
[22:15] <dr_willis> persona24:  give us more details and we may be able to help more.
[22:16] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes.
[22:16] <dr_willis> thats even scarier then using vbox ;)
[22:16] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: wow - awesome. how do i proceed doing so ? :)
[22:16] <madjestic> hey guys, I am trying to silence xauth error messages.  I can't figure out the right syntax.  I am trying 'xauth 2>/dev/null' but that does not seem to do the job
[22:16] <persona24> dr_willis: I just want to be able to mount onto my d drive
[22:17] <dr_willis> persona24:  you mean you want to access your windows d: drive?
[22:17] <dbugger> Hey guys. I have my playstation connected to the aux in, but nothing is comming out through the speakers. Is there anything special I need to do for this to work?
[22:17] <persona24> dr_willis: yes
[22:17] <dr_willis> persona24:  normally you just select  the disk in the file manager list and it auto-mounts it.. UNLESS the filesystem is currupted or needs checked it should auto mount.
[22:17] <booh-> How to use procmail and also use maildir ?
[22:17] <dr_willis> persona24:  or you can mount it by hand.
[22:18] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g | persona24
[22:18] <ubuntu-fan001> is ipsec module working in kernel 3.X?
[22:18] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: First, since you've used Wubi, you should boot into the Wubi Ubuntu installation from which you can configure grub to boot from the Ubuntu iso.
[22:18] <persona24> I've never had luck mounting drives. I'm trying to learn to strickly use the terminal sometimes but mounting has always been my downfall
[22:19] <dr_willis> persona24:  mounting is rather.. well.. staight forward...
[22:19] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: im still trying to figure out the syntax of mount ... cant seem to remember a lot
[22:19] <dr_willis> mount /dev/partitionname /media/makeamountpointfirst
[22:19] <dr_willis> !mount
[22:19] <bobweaver> persona24,  do you know how to use "mount " and "fdisk ">
[22:19] <persona24> bobweaver: not really
[22:20] <bobweaver> persona24,  you can use fdisk to scan drive's and partitions like "sudo fdisk -l "
[22:20] <mcoffee> dr_willis: thanks, it worked!
[22:22] <bobweaver> persona24,  this will give you a list of drives and partitions that are attached and then you can mount these drive's to the place that you would like to mount it to example "sudo mount /dev/sda$ /mnt "   where $ is the number of the drive like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 mnt "    mount <DRIVE Number>  < Where you want to Mount >
[22:23] <linkandzelda> should i install GNOME or stick with Unity? I cant decide and im new to everything lol
[22:23] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Are you currently booted into Ubuntu?
[22:23] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: no
[22:23] <eyastaifour> my shell says ; initramfs
[22:23] <eyastaifour> i cant find whereis, or fdisk
[22:23] <xangua> linkandzelda: Ubuntu uses gnome
[22:24] <eyastaifour> and when i try to mount /dev/sda1 - i get "invalig argument"
[22:24] <linkandzelda> I thought its using Unity
[22:24] <vbe> xangua: not anymore, only as option
[22:24] <blackshirt> eyastaifour, what are you trying to mount ?
[22:25] <eyastaifour> my partition C: (win7), formatted as NTFS
[22:25] <eyastaifour> i booted from what wbui.exe installed.
[22:25] <xangua> linkandzelda: vbe ubnity is just a shell for gnome
[22:25] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: OK, that means that booting failed for some reason. Did you do a normal Wubi installation following the instructions at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-with-windows ? (note that nowhere in those instructions does it say to make a virtual CD in Windows, and you should *not* have done so).
[22:25] <eyastaifour> it installed a new entry in my BCD, which takes me to GRUB, which won't load completely (because my CD doesnt work)
[22:25] <eyastaifour> my CD does not function people :)
[22:26] <vbe> xangua: huh?
[22:26] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Re-read my comment, I never said that you should be using a CD.
[22:27] <blackshirt> i thin wubi was not a great solutions if you want explore your linux, they resides on your windows, depends on windows ...
[22:27] <blackshirt> think
[22:27] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: sorry, I used wbui.exe that comes at the root of the ISO that I've downloaded and mounted, not the one you shared
[22:27] <vbe> xangua: to my understanding both are windowmanagers/desktop environments/whatever you call it. not one based on the other
[22:27] <Jordan_U> blackshirt: In this case we're just using Wubi as a stepping stone to a real install.
[22:28] <blackshirt> jordan_u, i'm agree with you
[22:28] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Boot into Windows, remove Wubi, and follow the directions at the link I gave you. Do *not* at any point make a virtual CD.
[22:28] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: but my windows machine doesn't have network drivers... it won't be able to download files
[22:29] <eyastaifour> can i add those files manually, from the ISO that I have downloaded
[22:29] <mcoffee> How would I ssh to a computer that is located remotely? Say the remote IP was 27.99.9.9, and the internal IP of the computer was 192.168.1.12, how would I ssh to it?
[22:29] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Download the wubi.exe from another machine and put it on a USB drive.
[22:29] <eyastaifour> (to clarify: i downloaded it from my mac, and i transfered it to the windows machine, using a USB disk)
[22:30] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Make sure that you have the wubi.exe and the Ubuntu iso in the same directory when you open wubi.exe, otherwise wubi will try to download the iso itself.
[22:30] <studio_> How can I run 3 monitors on 2 video cards?
[22:31] <FernandoBasso> Where does Dash read information from? When I try to open some directories it finds, it says "could not find /path/to/dir".
[22:33] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: do i have to do any cleanup before starting wubi.exe, considering i didnt do it properly the first time
[22:34] <uni4dfx> How can I change the default Java look and feel?
[22:35] <eyastaifour> oh, this is awesome... i re-ran wubi.exe, and it asked me to uninstall :)
[22:35] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Like I said you should remove your current broken Wubi installation first.
[22:35] <eyastaifour> yes, i wasn't aware it was as simple as a double-click again :)
[22:37] <BluPhenix316> well finally managed to get ubuntu 12.10 installed, but my resolution is stuck at 1024x768 with the nvidia drivers
[22:37] <eyastaifour> as soon as I run wubi.exe, it claims there's not enough free space. i do have 40GB of unallocated space which I intend to use for ubuntu
[22:37] <eyastaifour> should I format this as NTFS, and start wubi.exe again ?
[22:37] <BluPhenix316> anyone have any luck with nvidia cards and 12.10?
[22:38] <eyastaifour> or preferably FAT ?
[22:38] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: No.
[22:38] <BluPhenix316> oh and i have a nvidia 660 gtx, its not optimus
[22:39] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: should I free up space from partition C: then? or click on "continue anyway" (in wubi.exe) ?
[22:40] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: You need enough free space in C: to hold wubi's root.disk, but since this will be temporary you can tell wubi to create as small of a root.disk as it will allow.
[22:41] <Kircle> Since updating to 12.10 'Disk Usage Analyser' has associated itself with USB devices. When I insert one and try to open it from the unity launcher it opens up. How can I associate USB's with nautilis?
[22:41] <Tdaug> How can I set the command for "Workspace Switcher" to one keyboard key, so I can see all 9 of my desktops in one easy to remember keystroke?  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[22:42] <linkandzelda> this is taking a lot of getting used to compared to OS X
[22:42] <mcoffee> Hmm... My question went unnanswered for a while. Here's what I asked: How would I ssh to a computer that is located remotely? Say the remote IP was 27.99.9.9, and the internal IP of the computer was 192.168.1.12, how would I ssh to it?
[22:42] <Jordan_U> mcoffee: ssh username@27.99.9.9
[22:43] <blackshirt> mcoffee, just remote it, if
[22:43] <bekks> mcoffee: Then you have to create a router portforwarding entry on the router the remote computer is connected to.
[22:43] <BluPhenix316> hey anyone know how to get a higher resolution than 1024x768 with nvida drivers in ubuntu 12.10?
[22:44] <almondiga> does anyone know how to route between 2 networks using ubuntu?
[22:44] <guntbert> mcoffee: your question is not clear - did you mean that your remote host is behind a router (with the external address 27.99.9.9) ?
[22:44] <mcoffee> Yes.
[22:44] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U:  awesome. so far, i m disabling hibernation, and turning the page file size down. i ll ping again once i have the free disk space
[22:44] <mcoffee> guntbert: yes
[22:45] <mcoffee> Or at least I think.
[22:45] <guntbert> mcoffee: in that case follow what bekks said - you need to tell the router to forward traffic to the server
[22:45] <mcoffee> K.
[22:45] <almondiga> alguien me puede ayudar a enrutar entre 2 redes desde ubuntu?
[22:45] <mcoffee> guntbert: k
[22:45] <mcoffee> bekks: I port-forwarded.
[22:46] <linkandzelda> how do i enable entering password on login?
[22:46] <mcoffee> I'm still a noob at this, but I did a port forward.
[22:47] <mcoffee> As I would guess simply doing `ssh username@27.99.9.9` doesn't cut it.
[22:47] <mcoffee> I'm guessing that I would also have to add extra arguments to the command.
[22:47] <mcoffee> Not just the username@address argument.
[22:47] <guntbert> mcoffee: that should suffice if the port forwarding was done correctly
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> what does the service "sh" do?
[22:48] <guntbert> !enter | mcoffee
[22:48] <frxstrem> I have a small problem: I often get a "Bus error" when I do things such as edit text files or try to open certain programs (such as Pidgin) - what would be the most likely cause to this?
[22:49] <bekks> Lunar_Lander: "sh" is a shell, not a service.
[22:49] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: it wubi.exe now runs without any warning. but when it asks me about the installation drive, i have 1 option only (obviously), which is C:
[22:49] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[22:49] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes, and that's what you want to use.
[22:50] <eyastaifour> with 7 GB of free space.. its not where I want ubuntu to be ultimately installed (i want to use the 40 GB unallocated space)
[22:50] <eyastaifour> so - this is interim ?
[22:50] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes. We will use the Wubi installation to configure grub to boot from the iso, and then do a real install from there.
[22:50] <Lunar_Lander> because xterm says it had been connected to one of the canonical servers
[22:51] <dr_willis> Lunar_Lander:  that dosent make a lot of sence. ;)
[22:51] <dr_willis> sense either. ;) or cents..
[22:51] <Lunar_Lander> hm yea
[22:52] <Lunar_Lander> well I am running this balloon tracking software dl-fldigi at the moment from the terminal which uploads data to the server of spacenear.us
[22:52] <Lunar_Lander> and that "sh" line is there as a CLOSE_WAIT
[22:53] <dr_willis> sh is the default system shell. so some script may have spawned a sh process to handle some task.
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> I'll ask the developers if they know it
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> thanks!
[22:53] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i proceeded with wubi.exe. it asked to be restarted. it gave few errors then. and i now have an u
[22:53] <eyastaifour> i cant believe
[22:53] <eyastaifour> i have an ubuntu desktop :)
[22:54] <eyastaifour> this is sorcery :)
[22:54] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Great. How familiar are you with the terminal?
[22:54] <eyastaifour> a little bit familiar, i can manage around
[22:54] <URConsultant> tell me guys
[22:54] <eyastaifour> something is saying "copying files"... and i really want to make sure i dont install my stuff on the windows partition
[22:55] <URConsultant> synaptic and apt-get in terminal, it's the same, but if I use both i find some errors in my OS by time
[22:55] <dr_willis> eyastaifour:  wubi uses a file obn the winedows drive as a virtual hard disk..
[22:56] <eyastaifour> dr_willis: offtopic question: it is using this virtual hard disk file just for encapsulating its stuff.. its not an automagical type I hypervisor, right ?
[22:56] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: OK. Please find the exact path to the Ubuntu iso (or move it to a simple path, such as the root of your Windows partition) and then tell me the path. You can access your Windows partition via /host/ .
[22:57] <dr_willis> eyastaifour:  wubi boots into  linux same as a hd install would. only uses that disk file instead of a real disk.
[22:57] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Correct, no virtualization is going on.
[22:57] <eyastaifour> its on c:
[22:57] <eyastaifour> sorry, its on c:\ub
[22:57] <eyastaifour> but i dont have a terminal open.. just a window with the title "install", some pretty graphics, and a progress bar for "copying files"
[22:57] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: We need the exact path including filename so that we can configure grub to use it.
[22:58] <eyastaifour> ok, the ISO's path is: C:\newub\ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[23:02] <dr_willis> may be a good idea to move it to C:\ and give it a shorter name. ;) but its been a whild since ive set up grub2 to boot a iso.
[23:04] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: What is the output of "ls -l /host/newub/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso"?
[23:05] <The_Matrix> Can someone help me I have xubuntu and I tried to play a dvd and when I do this message comes up "Could not read DVD. This may be because the DVD is encrypted and a DVD decryption library is not installed."
[23:05] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i dont have terminal access yet.. the machine ended the wubi part, restarted, copied stuff
[23:05] <eyastaifour> and i just loaded now. I have grabm with two options (#2 is recovery mode). i ll go for #1
[23:05] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: OK. I'll be away for a few minutes, but I will be back.
[23:06] <dr_willis> !dvd
[23:06] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: cool.. i just made it to the logon page, and it seems that im in  (slow machine)
[23:06] <dr_willis> The_Matrix:  theres some package/script you install then run - to get the dvd stuff enabled. (been ages since ive used it)
[23:07] <The_Matrix> dr_willis how do I install them?
[23:08] <rephy222> having issues with my network manager
[23:08] <rephy222> for some reason it connects
[23:08] <rephy222> but fails to associate the key that i entered
[23:09] <dr_willis> The_Matrix:  the url the bot gave.... has details
[23:09] <rephy222> and for some reason i have to iwconfig wlan0 key xxxxxxx for the internet to work correctly
[23:09] <eyastaifour> mouse is not acting nice at all. i can move it, but the display wont refresh . i also cant click
[23:10] <eyastaifour> this is trackpad. i also tried a USB mouse
[23:10] <eyastaifour> is there a shortcut i can press to open a terminal ?
[23:10] <rephy222> anyone have any ideas.... could i just reinstall the network manager
[23:10] <rephy222> ctrl alt t
[23:10] <rephy222> for terminal
[23:11] <eyastaifour> thanks. not working with me.. display is very strange, everything is overlayed and nothing refreshes
[23:11] <eyastaifour> i ll boot in recovery mode
[23:13] <rephy222> u cant opena terminal with control alt t?
[23:14] <eyastaifour> rephy222: i dont know.. its a display issue - something flashed when i did ctrl alt T, but no terminal appeared
[23:15] <rephy222> eyastaifour:  is it a fresh install of ubuntu or something
[23:15] <eyastaifour> fresh install, on the oldest hardware you could imagine. a laptop  i bought in 05 i guess
[23:15] <eyastaifour> but things are cool now in failsafeX mode :)
[23:15] <rephy222> eyastaifour:  what version
[23:16] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: You might want to go with Xubuntu or Lubuntu then.
[23:17] <rephy222> anyone know what the package that deals with network connections is
[23:17] <rephy222> the wireless network manager or something
[23:17] <morsnowski> rephy222, whats the error
[23:18] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i can access /host/newub - and I see the ISO there
[23:18] <adaminsull> Hi
[23:18] <eyastaifour> rephy222: 10.04-1
[23:18] <adaminsull> Why do i get
[23:18] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: cant wait to download yet another ISO file.. i ll give this a shot
[23:18] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: OK, just be aware that you'll probably have the same graphics problems after installing Ubuntu normally as well.
[23:18] <adaminsull> Taskel: aptitude failed 100
[23:19] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: but i ll be able to use FailsafeX as well, correct ?
[23:19] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes.
[23:19] <eyastaifour> awesome. so i have my terminal, and i can browse to the ISO
[23:20] <adaminsull> ??
[23:20] <rephy222> ??
[23:20] <rephy222> anyone
[23:20] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Oh, one thing I should have asked much earlier. How much RAM do you have?
[23:20] <eyastaifour> I have 1.5 I think
[23:20] <rephy222> my net keeps connecting and dissconnecting for some reason
[23:21] <michealPW> Is there an Ubuntu package equiv. to Fedora's kernel-modules-extra package? Something that provides xpad.ko is what I'm after.
[23:21] <dr_willis> !find xpad.ko
[23:21] <dr_willis> seems to be in the generic kernel   package.
[23:21] <michealPW> Hrmm!
[23:22] <L3mce> rephy222: network-manager-gnome I would expect... but that sounds more like a driver/device issue.
[23:22] <dr_willis> /lib/modules/3.5.0-10-generic/kernel/drivers/input/joystick/xpad.ko
[23:22] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: do i go about booting from the ISO now?
[23:22] <dr_willis> seems its in all my kernels here.
[23:22] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: I think that will be enough, but I'm not sure. To install Ubuntu from the same drive that you'er booted from the way we are requires first copying the entire iso into RAM, meaning that you'll effectively have 700 MiB less RAM available than you normally would.
[23:22] <michealPW> So can I just do "insmod xpad.ko", dr_willis?
[23:22] <dr_willis> michealPW:  try it and see. ;) id think so
[23:22] <michealPW> Hrmm! Thx mate, will try now :)
[23:22] <dr_willis> michealPW:  try a locate xpad.ko
[23:22] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: I see.. let's give it a shot! so, is it menuentries, or unetbootin now ?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes. Just for reference, normal iso loop booting can be done easily by following http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F but we're going to need to change the kernel parameters so we'll need to do something slightly more.
[23:24] <michealPW> Fiddle sticks!
[23:24] <Mike-Linux-NL> i do have a small problem...
[23:24] <michealPW> I got an error "Error inserting "/path/to/xpad.ko": -1 Unknown symbol in module
[23:24] <michealPW> :(
[23:25] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: First mount the iso file so that we can copy its loopback.cfg: "sudo mount /host/newub/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso -o loop /mnt/".
[23:25] <goblinou> hello. which is the channel for ubuntu help, please?
[23:25] <Mike-Linux-NL> i installed Ubuntu 12.10, removed Empathy, and installed pidgin instead. Now i dont have that envelope icon in the unity panel... how to geti t back
[23:25] <michealPW> Maybe it's a dependency
[23:25] <Jordan_U> goblinou: This is it :)
[23:25] <michealPW> Like, this module needs another module inserted first. Interesting!
[23:25] <michealPW> Well, thx for the tips, got me close now! :)
[23:25] <goblinou> great. who will have the great pleasure of helping me?
[23:25] <trism> Mike-Linux-NL: it will hide itself when there are not any apps using it, and since pidgin isn't ported to the new API yet, it won't be there
[23:26] <dr_willis> michealPW:  what was the exact command line you used?
[23:26] <Jordan_U> goblinou: Just ask your question, if anyone knows the answer they'll answer (and if nobody does, then nobody will answer).
[23:26] <dr_willis>  sudo modprobe xpad
[23:26] <dr_willis> worked here
[23:26] <Mike-Linux-NL> i installed Ubuntu 12.10, removed Empathy, and installed pidgin instead. Now i dont have that envelope icon in the unity panel... how do i get it back? wich package do i need to install?
[23:26] <goblinou> ok here it goes
[23:27] <goblinou> how do i adjust visual effects in ubuntu 12.1?
[23:27] <eyastaifour> is there a edfault root password for 12.04 ?
[23:27] <dr_willis> goblinou:  which ones? the ccsm tool is the main compiz config tool.. and it can be.. well.. scary. ;)
[23:27] <michealPW> Oh I used sudo insmod /lib/modules/etc/kernel/drivers/input/joystick/xpad.ko
[23:27] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | goblinou
[23:27] <michealPW> haha I should use modprobe instead ?
[23:27] <michealPW> *facepalm* I'm such a newbie hehe
[23:27] <The_Matrix> Lol
[23:27] <dr_willis> michealPW:  over thought it a little bit... ;P
[23:27] <Jordan_U> !root | eyastaifour
[23:28] <The_Matrix> Can someone help me I have xubuntu and I tried to play a dvd and when I do this message comes up "Could not read DVD. This may be because the DVD is encrypted and a DVD decryption library is not installed."
[23:28] <rodrigograca31> Hi :)
[23:28] <Gaming4JC> hi :)
[23:28] <Gaming4JC> Does anyone know of a GUI to check voltage being used on Linux?
[23:28] <rodrigograca31> i need some help :)
[23:28] <dr_willis> The_Matrix:  and you looked at that dvd playback wiki url? (not been there in ages, it maybe out of date)
[23:28] <The_Matrix> yea
[23:28] <The_Matrix> its confusing lol
[23:28] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U:  if i run commands individually to browse to my ISO, it works fine. when i try with Sudo, it doesnt(i cant even use tab completion)
[23:29] <rodrigograca31> i am trying to compile c++  .....
[23:29] <Gaming4JC> !ask | rodrigograca31
[23:29] <michealPW> Weird
[23:29] <Mike-Linux-NL> i installed Ubuntu 12.10, removed Empathy, and installed pidgin instead. Now i dont have that envelope icon in the unity panel... how do i get it back? wich package do i need to install?
[23:29] <Mike-Linux-NL> indicator-messages IS installed however
[23:29] <michealPW> Even when I give modprobe the exact path to the xpad.ko file it still says FATAL: Module no found.
[23:29] <michealPW> :(
[23:30] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: It's expected that tab completion won't work, and that has to do with mount and bash_completion rather than sudo. If you entered in the exact command I gave you and recieved an error message then you probably gave me the wrong path. It's important that you get paths right, one character off is still wrong.
[23:30] <dr_willis> The_Matrix:  it is? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs seems rather clear
[23:30] <subman> Anyone have a good how-to for installing a software raid on an existing ubuntu 12.04 server?
[23:30] <trism> Mike-Linux-NL: it will hide itself when there are not any apps using it, and since pidgin isn't ported to the new API yet, it won't be there (repost)
[23:30] <eyastaifour> i gave the right path. i understand.
[23:30] <dr_willis> 2 lines to cut/paste into the terminal...
[23:30] <The_Matrix> ill try to read through it again dr_willis lol
[23:30] <eyastaifour> im now in as root, and i mounted the iso to /mnt
[23:30] <michealPW> Got it haha I suck
[23:31] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: What do you mean by "in as root"?
[23:31] <eyastaifour> root@ubuntu:
[23:31] <dr_willis> The_Matrix:  they stand out in the 'grey this is a command' type formating.
[23:31] <The_Matrix> oh ok :)
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> The_Matrix, Generally adding the restricted-extras and libdvdread4 should do it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Installing_libdvdcss
[23:31] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: You do not want or need to be logged in as root. "exit" to get out of the root shell and use sudo for individual commands that need root privileges.
[23:32] <The_Matrix> Thanks alot wilee-nilee :D
[23:32] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: that's for best practices indeed.. but for the sake of practicality, would it work ? im exiting as we speak
[23:32] <goblinou> ubottu: gee, i installed that software but i don't see any additional appearance settings
[23:32] <ofcan> what might be the reason if I can't 'cd' into a directory? I am in sudo group btw...
[23:32] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: It would work, but it doesn't help you in any way and as you said is bad practice.
[23:33] <michealPW> Sweet!
[23:33] <goblinou> oh, anyone else was helping me?
[23:33] <dr_willis> ofcan:  a 'directory' has to be executable for one to 'cd' into it.. i belive.
[23:33] <goblinou> how do i adjust visual effects in ubuntu 12.1?
[23:33] <dr_willis> goblinou:  after installing the ccsm package you run the ccsm tool... and be carefull with it.
[23:33] <goblinou> please.
[23:33] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: the ISO is now mounted
[23:34] <goblinou> ccsm package, right, thanks
[23:34] <michealPW> "[21818.503721] input: Microsoft X-Box pad v2 (US) as /devices/..." yay! :)
[23:34] <michealPW> thx, dr_willis :)
[23:34] <dr_willis> the packagte name was given earlier.. its not 'ccsm;
[23:34] <goblinou> hahaha what do you mean be careful?
[23:34] <dr_willis> the binary IS called ccsm
[23:34] <dr_willis> !find ccsm
[23:34] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: OK. "cp /mnt/boot/grub/loopback.cfg ~/Desktop/" That should copy the iso's loopback.cfg to your Desktop.
[23:35] <ofcan> dr_willis: but I can navigate manually into it, just can't via .sh file... than I have somehow wrote the .sh wrong, right?
[23:35] <dupondje> I added set tabstop=4 to my .vimrc, but still tab doesn't give me 4 space chars :(
[23:35] <dr_willis> ofcan:  perhaps.. or spaces in the dir name..
[23:35] <dupondje> any idea's what i'm missing?
[23:35] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: yes, copied
[23:36] <trism> dupondje: :set expandtab
[23:36] <dr_willis> goblinou:  there are some other 'tweaking' tools out to do some unity and compiz setting tweaks that  are safer.
[23:36] <ofcan> dr_willis: this is my code & error; any syntax code or like that you see? > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13204158/unicorn-init-sh-cannot-find-app-root-on-capistrano-cold-deploy/13204193#13204193
[23:36] <ewook> Yo. How do one tweak the default icons in the unity bar for a 'new' user?
[23:36] <goblinou> right, i see. where is the setting for the screen saver and turning monitor off? and avoiding having to enter the password when i shake it off.
[23:36] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: OK, now we need to edit the file a little. To do that we need to be sure about the exact path to the iso, so please run "ls -l /host/newub/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso" and post the output.
[23:36] <dupondje> trism: set tabstop=4 set shiftwidth=4 set expandtab set noeol set binary
[23:37] <dupondje> have this now, but still :(
[23:37] <trism> dupondje: so put it in ~/.vimrc
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> goblinou, If you mess with the compizconfig manager install the fusion icon and have a launcher for it on the desktop, ask if needed to do this. This will restart compiz when you adjust it, you will want it.
[23:37] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: im on another machine :) i confirm it is there. I have used tab completion.
[23:38] <goblinou> ok, great. another question, if i may...
[23:38] <goblinou> right, i see. where is the setting for the screen saver and turning monitor off? and avoiding having to enter the password when i shake it off.
[23:38] <dupondje> trism: yep its there :)
[23:38] <DarkAceZ> just out of curiosity, is there a command to restart processes?
[23:38] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: -rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 729067520 Nov 2 18:29 /host/newub/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[23:38] <goblinou> dr_willis or wilee-nilee?
[23:39] <dr_willis> ofcan:  only thing i can guess at is the quoteing of the command is keeping $home from getting expanded.. perhaps...
[23:39] <ewook> DarkAceZ: yes. service [theservice] restart
[23:39] <DarkAceZ> service?
[23:39] <dr_willis> ofcan:  seen that happen in other cases. :)
[23:39] <ewook> DarkAceZ: you need to append sudo first of course.
[23:39] <[snake]> ewook processes not services
[23:40] <DarkAceZ> ^
[23:40] <DarkAceZ> what I was thinking loo
[23:40] <DarkAceZ> l
[23:40] <ewook> [snake]: doh.
[23:40] <ewook> DarkAceZ: sorry :p
[23:40] <DarkAceZ> lol
[23:40] <ewook> DarkAceZ: that depends on the process what HUP-call it handles.
[23:40] <dr_willis> goblinou:  system settings has a brightness and lock   app....
[23:40] <ofcan> dr_willis: so just remove "" and that's it? :)
[23:40] <DarkAceZ> nautilus
[23:40] <ofcan> dr_willis: and say > run "$CMD" ?
[23:41] <dr_willis> ofcan:  test it with using your /home/yourusername/ perhaps ?
[23:41] <dupondje> trism: its something strange really :(
[23:41] <dr_willis> ofcan:  i alwyas get nesting messed up. :) or else the thing may be calling sh when you mean to call bash.. so the variable is not set.. (seen that happen also)
[23:41] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: OK, add this to the top of the file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1327857/
[23:42] <dr_willis> ofcan:  have it echo the exact command and parts of the command perhaps? as a debugging trick.
[23:42] <goblinou> oh, dr_willis, silly i didn see that, i've been in the Windows cave for to long. anyway, thanks, and quoting a phrase from Frank Zappa's Joe's Garage: Gee, now I can go home! thanks, bye, best wishes..
[23:42] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Actually, that might conflict with wubi, lets name the loop device something else.
[23:43] <eyastaifour> so, change the last line to root=(looploop)
[23:43] <eyastaifour> ?
[23:43] <trism> dupondje: might depend on the file you are editing, I have that all set up but I still get tabs when editing say, Makefiles. otherwise I have no idea
[23:43] <Gaming4JC> To answer my own question... http://gabenell.blogspot.com/2010/06/setting-up-collectd-collection3-on.html  <-- monitors voltages with pretty Graphs.
[23:43] <Gaming4JC> Thanks ^_^
[23:43] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Add this instead: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1327860/
[23:43] <eyastaifour> to which loopback.cfg ? the one i copied to the desktop ?
[23:44] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes.
[23:44] <linkandzelda> anyone know why my apple magic mouse is no longer connecting to my ubuntu?
[23:44] <linkandzelda> its very annoying, how crap apple products are
[23:44] <dr_willis> linkandzelda:  perhaps they want to sell you a $30 adaptor to use it....
[23:44] <[snake]> Lol
[23:44] <linkandzelda> that would be great, but this mouse has no adapter possible lol
[23:44] <linkandzelda> it was working
[23:44] <linkandzelda> then i rebooted
[23:45] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: you want me to addd these before any "menuentry" ? at the top of the file directly ?
[23:45] <linkandzelda> not it refuses to connect
[23:45] <ofcan> dr_willis: ok, will try to figure out... but definetly some syntax thing, you think, right? :)
[23:45] <FloodBot1> linkandzelda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <[snake]> Maybe the battery died :O
[23:45] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Correct.
[23:45] <dr_willis> ofcan:  always seems to be somting trivial when its hard to find.. ;)
[23:45] <linkandzelda> it flashes, just refuses to be connectable
[23:46] <rephy222> L3mce: dont think its a driver issue cause its been working fine until i tried installing a dnsproxy
[23:46] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: and in the Iso_path, there's no mentioning of /host/newub, just /newub directly
[23:47] <[snake]> linkandzelda perhaps you changed some bios options. If not then apple did it wrong maybe
[23:47] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Correct. /host/ is the mountpoint, the path on the actual filesystem starts with /newub/.
[23:48] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: ok, cool. i have entered the text
[23:48] <minwinpc> Hello
[23:48] <rodrigograca31> so, how i was saying i am trying to compile c++
[23:48] <rodrigograca31> here is my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327874/
[23:49] <Troy^> rodrigograca31: you best bet would be a c++ channel
[23:49] <[snake]> Ditto
[23:49] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Now we need to add the "toram" kernel parameter to the menu entries. We're going to be using the "Try Ubuntu without installing" entry, but lets modify both it and the "Install Ubuntu" entries (but not the "Check disc for defects" or "Test memory" options).
[23:50] <frxstrem> rodrigograca31: Don't use gcc to compile, because that won't work for C++ programs (it's C only). Use g++ instead, which is the C++ version of GCC.
[23:50] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: To add the "toram" kernel parameter, simply add the word "toram" between "splash" and "--" near the end of the line starting with "linux".
[23:51] <[snake]> Oh lol i didnt even notice becsuse I write C so it looked normal
[23:51] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: for both menu entries (try and install)
[23:51] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes.
[23:51] <eyastaifour> should I leave a space bewteeen "toram" and the "--"
[23:51] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes.
[23:52] <eyastaifour> ok, done
[23:52] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: When you're done with that, please pastebin the new contents of the file and I'll confirm that it all looks correct.
[23:52] <rodrigograca31> Troy^: ok :)
[23:53] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1327885/
[23:55] <rodrigograca31> frxstrem: humm i did not knowed that
[23:57] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: You followed my directions correctly, but to I realized that "search --set --file $iso_path" should actually be "search --set=root --file $iso_path" so please change that and we're done modifying the file.
[23:57] <melkor> Cheese will not record video. Any suggestions?
[23:58] <rodrigograca31> frxstrem: Thanks!
[23:59] <frxstrem> rodrigograca31: no problem :)
[23:59] <rodrigograca31> frxstrem: g++ worked :)
[23:59] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: alright :) all set http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1327892/
[23:59] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Great, now save the file and run "sudo cp ~/Desktop/loopback.cfg /boot/grub/custom.cfg".