| smartboyhw | scott-work, ping | 13:14 |
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| smartboyhw | zequence, you here? | 13:45 |
| smartboyhw | LOL | 13:46 |
| contrapunctus | Haha | 13:50 |
| smartboyhw | LOL | 13:50 |
| contrapunctus | smartboyhw, see if you know something for this - download a file in Firefox, then 'open containing folder', it uses nautilus =\ How can I make it use Thunar? O_o | 13:51 |
| smartboyhw | contrapunctus, default file manager? | 13:52 |
| contrapunctus | ? | 13:52 |
| smartboyhw | "Settings" -> "Preferred applications" -> "Utilities" -> "File Manager" -> Choose "Thunar" | 13:53 |
| contrapunctus | Ah. | 13:57 |
| contrapunctus | Never saw that there o.o | 13:58 |
| smartboyhw | contrapunctus, :D | 13:58 |
| contrapunctus | Excellent, worked! Thanks ^^ | 13:59 |
| smartboyhw | contrapunctus, np | 13:59 |
| contrapunctus | ...damn, I just realized this was all in the dev chan. Sorry. >_> | 14:00 |
| smartboyhw | contrapunctus, LOL | 14:01 |
| smartboyhw | Hi zequence | 15:53 |
| zequence | ScottL, Good day | 19:32 |
| jussi | right, so I fixed the ops call in #ubuntustudio, not that we use it much | 19:45 |
| astraljava | jussi: Great! So when are you gonna fix the naming convention?! *smirk* | 19:49 |
| jussi | astraljava: to be deadly honest, the care factor for anything like that is less than 0. you are an op, why dont you fix it? | 19:52 |
| astraljava | I'm with ya on the care factor, honestly. :) | 19:55 |
| contrapunctus | Naming convention? O_o | 19:57 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, Hey, would you like to help out with something concerning development? | 20:03 |
| zequence | I see you hanging around here, so I thought maybe we could put you to some use :) | 20:04 |
| zequence | There are many things you can do, no matter what your skill set is | 20:09 |
| contrapunctus | Sure | 20:11 |
| contrapunctus | But I'm just a musician...I'm told I have good English though, so docs or something, maybe? | 20:12 |
| contrapunctus | zequence ...? | 20:15 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, Docs , absolutely | 20:17 |
| contrapunctus | Yay. | 20:17 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, We might need help with posting news, and creating them | 20:17 |
| contrapunctus | This be volunteer work? | 20:17 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, Yes. We are all volunteers | 20:18 |
| zequence | Ubuntu Studio is a volunteer project | 20:18 |
| contrapunctus | I can do the news thing, but I need to know how much time am I expected to give per day before I sign. | 20:18 |
| contrapunctus | *I am | 20:19 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, Oh, don't worry about time. Whatever you feel you can spare. Important thing is you feel it's fun | 20:20 |
| zequence | Doesn't need to be a long term commitment. | 20:21 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, Are you subscribing to the ubuntu-studio-devel mail list? | 20:21 |
| contrapunctus | Non. | 20:22 |
| contrapunctus | Not yet. | 20:22 |
| contrapunctus | zequence, what do I do there? | 20:23 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, Please do. subscribe to it. We do a lot of discussion there | 20:23 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, Do you subscribe to any mail lists? | 20:24 |
| zequence | There's also the ubuntu-studio-user | 20:24 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, You'll find links to both at the bottom end of this page https://ubuntustudio.org/support/ | 20:25 |
| contrapunctus | I subscribed to LAU, but its pointless, I don't post. | 20:25 |
| contrapunctus | I just read the archives :) | 20:25 |
| contrapunctus | Am I required to post there or just read? o.o | 20:25 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, No need to post. Usually, you'll post if you have opinions about something, etc | 20:26 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, Here's an overview of blueprints for this cycle https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/RaringBlueprintsCategories | 20:27 |
| zequence | Each blueprint has a set of workitems, that anyone can assign to themselves | 20:27 |
| zequence | Also, anyone is able to add workitems to blueprints | 20:28 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, You'll need a launchpad account to edit | 20:28 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, Just have a look at blueprints that might interest you | 20:28 |
| contrapunctus | zequence ...you're Ailo? O_o | 20:29 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, Ah, yeah :) | 20:29 |
| zequence | I changed my nick | 20:30 |
| contrapunctus | Ah. | 20:30 |
| contrapunctus | What's Raring? | 20:30 |
| contrapunctus | 13.04? | 20:30 |
| zequence | Yep | 20:30 |
| zequence | Raring Ringtail | 20:30 |
| ttoine | hi | 20:33 |
| zequence | contrapunctus, If you haven't done so already, get yourself a launchpad account. https://launchpad.net/ | 20:34 |
| zequence | ttoine, What's up? | 20:34 |
| ttoine | falktx has updated Ardour for 12.10 in his repos | 20:35 |
| ttoine | and so, I can use LV2 plugins on the current version of Ubuntu | 20:35 |
| contrapunctus | Hm...kinda confusing to understand, zequence. | 20:36 |
| ttoine | zequence, and you, still at the uds ? | 20:39 |
| zequence | ttoine, Sorry, I had to disappear for a while | 21:50 |
| zequence | I'm still in Malmö, which is in Sweden, next to Copenhagen, Denmark. Will return home to Gothenburg tomorrow | 21:52 |
| zequence | Had to book a hotel for this night | 21:52 |
| ttoine | zequence, ok | 22:10 |
| ttoine | hope for you that your trip to home will be good | 22:11 |
| zequence | ttoine, Thanks. | 22:13 |
| zequence | ttoine, btw, as you probably read in the mail list, ScottL is taking charge of the PR stuff, so please do talk with him about what you would like to do | 22:13 |
| zequence | I guess, he'll first want to set things up | 22:13 |
| ttoine | zequence, I saw that. An d I am not very surprised | 22:28 |
| ttoine | I can't spend so much time as he does on Ubuntu Studio | 22:29 |
| ttoine | I just hope that he will let a place to others, like me, to do some stuff with PR | 22:29 |
| ttoine | Because previous Ubuntu Studio leader, Cory, wanted to keep maximum control, and that was the reason why I left the devel time at this time | 22:30 |
| ttoine | We need to build a community | 22:30 |
| holstein | ttoine: glad to see you are back! | 22:31 |
| ttoine | the devel team | 22:32 |
| zequence | ttoine, Yea, we absolutely do need freedom to work independently. It's the only way for the team to grow | 22:32 |
| ttoine | holstein, thanks | 22:32 |
| ttoine | and things have to be splitted depending on the skills | 22:33 |
| zequence | I think we need to have some sort of consent within the team about a range of things, but at the same time, each one responsible of their area should be able to make decisions on their own | 22:33 |
| ttoine | for example, I would like to create a Youtube channel, for video howtos | 22:33 |
| ttoine | zequence, I just hope that our current leader will listen to that ;-) | 22:34 |
| zequence | ttoine, We still need team leads for some things. I'm the doc lead, for instance. And I would consider ScottL as the lead for the still not existing public relations team | 22:34 |
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| zequence | But, I consider that more of an administrative role, to assure quality | 22:35 |
| holstein | you can still do PR though, if you want | 22:35 |
| ttoine | I don't think it is as thing to do alone | 22:36 |
| holstein | PR? | 22:36 |
| holstein | you can get a few people and do it | 22:36 |
| holstein | im just saying, if you want to do PR, no one is stopping anyone from doing that | 22:36 |
| holstein | there is just a plan in motion, somewhere in the works | 22:36 |
| ttoine | I think that, as we have a wordpress based website, we should all have an account. and use it to suggest posts. etc... then, the choosen editors can put online what is good | 22:37 |
| zequence | ttoine, Sounds like a good idea | 22:37 |
| holstein | i would actually like to see some press other places | 22:37 |
| zequence | ttoine, You are free to add workitems for things like this on the public relations blueprint | 22:37 |
| holstein | other folks talking about it... and link that to the ubuntu newsletter | 22:37 |
| zequence | holstein, Check out the blueprint to see some suggestions | 22:37 |
| holstein | yeah, i've seen it.. im just saying what im willing to take on, and plan to do at some point | 22:38 |
| holstein | i got a bit more work to do though before i can get into it | 22:38 |
| zequence | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-r-public-relations | 22:38 |
| holstein | still, im just talking about from a mind-share perspective | 22:38 |
| holstein | i would like to see things addd to our worpress, sure, but i would also like to just see a general buzz about the project | 22:39 |
| holstein | i would like to get back to working on jono | 22:39 |
| zequence | We should use as many channels as possible, I think. As much as is practical and makes sense | 22:39 |
| holstein | jono could help US a lot.. | 22:40 |
| zequence | holstein, What's jono? | 22:40 |
| holstein | jono bacon? | 22:41 |
| holstein | the ubuntu community lead.. who makes music.. using windwos XP | 22:41 |
| holstein | and im not attacking him for that decision.. i just would like to help him add ubuntustudio to his music workflow and help with a buzz | 22:42 |
| astraljava | Really? Makes music with XP? | 22:45 |
| zequence | I think if you guys keep working on ScottL and shooting ideas, this things could be wrapped up pretty soon | 22:45 |
| zequence | Like within a week or os | 22:46 |
| ttoine | a lot of people use XP and Mac, even if they are fan of Ubuntu or LInux | 22:46 |
| zequence | There isn't that awful much that needs to be decided before starting to post stuff, I imagine | 22:46 |
| holstein | sure, but jono is not a "fan" of ubuntu.. he's the #2 guy | 22:46 |
| astraljava | Well Macs I understand a little better, but XP? | 22:46 |
| holstein | i mean, use what you want... i just recorded at sirriusXM today, and they all have XP running.. but they dont advertise and promote ubuntu | 22:47 |
| ttoine | because when you know it well, it can be very stable for music. there are plenty of hardware and software available | 22:47 |
| zequence | I personally had a much easier time on XP than on Mac, when I was still using both | 22:48 |
| holstein | yeah, but jono should be using it... its quite equivalent to a desktop user saying "i know windows and word" | 22:48 |
| zequence | Mac had a lot more issues in the past. Probably not true anymore | 22:49 |
| holstein | and im not saying, lets go give him a hard time.. i really just want to teach him to use ubuntu for music production.. so he'll talk about it | 22:49 |
| astraljava | Yeah, the blaming will get us nowhere, and I don't care enough to even get started. Was just wondering. :) | 22:50 |
| ttoine | holstein, so you will take the time to make him change his soundcard if it's not handled by alsa or ffado ? | 22:50 |
| holstein | ttoine: i would send him one in the mail.. and have offered | 22:51 |
| ttoine | because around me, the only thing people are saying is : yes, ardour is great. But there near no good plugins to work with. I can't open my previous work. What's up with my commercial plugins ? | 22:51 |
| ttoine | etc. | 22:51 |
| holstein | ttoine: its a matter of time, and learing JACK, and the software | 22:52 |
| ttoine | I don't think so | 22:52 |
| holstein | ttoine: thats what jono said | 22:52 |
| ttoine | for example, Harrison Mixbus, based on Ardour, is a great software | 22:52 |
| holstein | when i left him no other option (excuse) | 22:52 |
| holstein | ttoine: when folks talk about plugs, they are talking about vst's.. instruments | 22:53 |
| ttoine | but it is very good on Windows and Mac because it can use commercial plugins | 22:53 |
| ttoine | it is not possible easily on Linux | 22:53 |
| holstein | we dont have ones that folks like | 22:53 |
| ttoine | holstein, no | 22:53 |
| holstein | ttoine: i dont think thats up for debate, man | 22:53 |
| holstein | ttoine: we dont have them | 22:53 |
| ttoine | I speak about recording audio. so commercial compressors, eq, etc... | 22:53 |
| holstein | they arent available | 22:53 |
| ttoine | yes | 22:53 |
| holstein | ttoine: those users are mis-informed and not looking for alternatives | 22:54 |
| ttoine | hum | 22:54 |
| holstein | ttoine: they want the exact plugs they use | 22:54 |
| ttoine | I just think that this is one of the reason why Jono still use XP | 22:54 |
| holstein | ttoine: hes says instruments | 22:54 |
| holstein | drums | 22:54 |
| holstein | vbsvst's | 22:55 |
| holstein | vst's* | 22:55 |
| holstein | anyways, you can ask him | 22:55 |
| ttoine | yes | 22:55 |
| holstein | im just saying what i see, and have encoutered | 22:55 |
| holstein | when folks say "i dont have a verb" and i suggest one, and they try it, they usually accept it | 22:56 |
| ttoine | One of my good friends sampled zynaddsubfx sounds he created, and then, go in XP to use them in fruity loops | 22:56 |
| holstein | the instruments... we dont have those quite as nice and easy | 22:56 |
| holstein | zynadd is a great example.. or the current yoshimi | 22:56 |
| ttoine | Perhaps, we should reference somewhere all the commercial native plugins and insturments for Linux available | 22:57 |
| holstein | ttoine: they arent included though... which is another challenge | 22:57 |
| holstein | unfortunately, i think folks come to ubuntustudio to save money | 22:57 |
| ttoine | They don't need to be included. But we have to speak about them | 22:57 |
| holstein | ttoine: wont hurt | 22:57 |
| holstein | ttoine: harrison and mixbux wnated to list ubuntustudio as the official supported distro | 22:58 |
| holstein | ttoine: i think we missed the boat on that though | 22:58 |
| astraljava | holstein: Do you remember the project, some music professor started, to record all instruments of a symphonic orchestra, and release them under some CC license? Whatever happened to the project? | 22:58 |
| holstein | ttoine: i see it at AVlinux.. | 22:58 |
| holstein | astraljava: lsd would remember... open orchestra | 22:58 |
| holstein | something like that | 22:58 |
| ttoine | yes. but think that at the moment, UbuntuStudio is the only easy to install multimedia linux distro at the moment | 22:58 |
| holstein | nah.. AVlinux is nice | 22:59 |
| astraljava | holstein: Ok, thanks. | 22:59 |
| holstein | very nice... and some other spins... kxstudio.. etc | 22:59 |
| ttoine | holstein, what do you use for your own productions ? | 23:01 |
| holstein | ttoine: my studio rig is running ubuntustudio 10.04 with the kxstudio ppa's added | 23:01 |
| holstein | i have a 12.10 install on that machine for testing as well | 23:01 |
| holstein | i have 12.04 installed most other places... though i check out avlinux each new release.. and use it for troubleshooting | 23:02 |
| holstein | its a great live CD... and a nice distro | 23:02 |
| holstein | its dying off though :/ | 23:02 |
| ttoine | holstein, that what I woulf like to notice : AVlinux is dying. 64Studio is not updated for a long time ago, Garbure too, ... | 23:10 |
| ttoine | With the workshop I do, I see that there are a lot of people looking at us at the moment | 23:11 |
| ttoine | and not necessary because they want to save money. Some are just day to day Ubuntu or other Linux distro users, wanting to use it for multimedia production | 23:12 |
| ttoine | at the moment, it is like Ubuntu is seen just as a good distro for server, cloud and office | 23:13 |
| holstein | kx is still around.. av just released.. though 64 has been dead, and openDAW is not happening | 23:13 |
| holstein | ttoine: thats great!.. in the buisness i am in, which is the music buisness, no one knows about US | 23:14 |
| ttoine | for home, if the coming of valve and blizzard give us access to commercial games, a lot of users will come to Ubuntu. And they all say "I want to make short family movies", etc... | 23:14 |
| holstein | its either protools, or you aint doing it right | 23:14 |
| ttoine | holstein, yes... too bad... | 23:15 |
| holstein | i try to show what ubuntustudio can do... but its not easy as just installing the softare and loading it up | 23:15 |
| ttoine | I use kxstudio with Ubuntu, and Ubuntu Studio, it is a great addon | 23:15 |
| holstein | i think we can get some buzz doing though | 23:16 |
| holstein | i dont even want to personally address what ubuntustudio can replace | 23:16 |
| holstein | i just want to show what im doing with it, and make folks want it | 23:16 |
| ttoine | holstein, when I come with a standard live usb of Ubuntu Studio, show that it runs on any laptop, with a firewire or usb sound card, and that you can record etc... it is impressive. But people I see are all hobbyists, or floss enthousiats | 23:16 |
| holstein | ttoine: i think thats great thogh.. and it doesnt hurt to spread the word! | 23:17 |
| ttoine | yes. One major release for Linux will help us : the video editor "Lighworks" | 23:18 |
| holstein | yup!... are you following that ttoine ? | 23:18 |
| ttoine | if it really happens, we will have a serious pro video editor available. And for free for hobbyists | 23:18 |
| holstein | where are we with it? | 23:18 |
| holstein | i think steam is going to hel ptoo | 23:18 |
| ttoine | holstein, one of the thing I do best is following and finding news on what interest me ;-) | 23:19 |
| ttoine | holstein, it is official that they release the best parts of Lightworks as an Open Source software. Their economic model is freemium : you pay for restricted codecs modules, etc... | 23:20 |
| holstein | ttoine: i hope that doesnt keep us from being abe to include it by default | 23:21 |
| holstein | well, im almost home after 7+ hours in the car!... bbl | 23:22 |
| ttoine | ok | 23:23 |
| ttoine | holstein, me too. It will be far better than Cinelerra... | 23:23 |
| ttoine | good night ! | 23:30 |
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