[13:14] scott-work, ping [13:45] zequence, you here? [13:46] LOL [13:50] Haha [13:50] LOL [13:51] smartboyhw, see if you know something for this - download a file in Firefox, then 'open containing folder', it uses nautilus =\ How can I make it use Thunar? O_o [13:52] contrapunctus, default file manager? [13:52] ? [13:53] "Settings" -> "Preferred applications" -> "Utilities" -> "File Manager" -> Choose "Thunar" [13:57] Ah. [13:58] Never saw that there o.o [13:58] contrapunctus, :D [13:59] Excellent, worked! Thanks ^^ [13:59] contrapunctus, np [14:00] ...damn, I just realized this was all in the dev chan. Sorry. >_> [14:01] contrapunctus, LOL [15:53] Hi zequence [19:32] ScottL, Good day [19:45] right, so I fixed the ops call in #ubuntustudio, not that we use it much [19:49] jussi: Great! So when are you gonna fix the naming convention?! *smirk* [19:52] astraljava: to be deadly honest, the care factor for anything like that is less than 0. you are an op, why dont you fix it? [19:55] I'm with ya on the care factor, honestly. :) [19:57] Naming convention? O_o [20:03] contrapunctus, Hey, would you like to help out with something concerning development? [20:04] I see you hanging around here, so I thought maybe we could put you to some use :) [20:09] There are many things you can do, no matter what your skill set is [20:11] Sure [20:12] But I'm just a musician...I'm told I have good English though, so docs or something, maybe? [20:15] zequence ...? [20:17] contrapunctus, Docs , absolutely [20:17] Yay. [20:17] contrapunctus, We might need help with posting news, and creating them [20:17] This be volunteer work? [20:18] contrapunctus, Yes. We are all volunteers [20:18] Ubuntu Studio is a volunteer project [20:18] I can do the news thing, but I need to know how much time am I expected to give per day before I sign. [20:19] *I am [20:20] contrapunctus, Oh, don't worry about time. Whatever you feel you can spare. Important thing is you feel it's fun [20:21] Doesn't need to be a long term commitment. [20:21] contrapunctus, Are you subscribing to the ubuntu-studio-devel mail list? [20:22] Non. [20:22] Not yet. [20:23] zequence, what do I do there? [20:23] contrapunctus, Please do. subscribe to it. We do a lot of discussion there [20:24] contrapunctus, Do you subscribe to any mail lists? [20:24] There's also the ubuntu-studio-user [20:25] contrapunctus, You'll find links to both at the bottom end of this page https://ubuntustudio.org/support/ [20:25] I subscribed to LAU, but its pointless, I don't post. [20:25] I just read the archives :) [20:25] Am I required to post there or just read? o.o [20:26] contrapunctus, No need to post. Usually, you'll post if you have opinions about something, etc [20:27] contrapunctus, Here's an overview of blueprints for this cycle https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/RaringBlueprintsCategories [20:27] Each blueprint has a set of workitems, that anyone can assign to themselves [20:28] Also, anyone is able to add workitems to blueprints [20:28] contrapunctus, You'll need a launchpad account to edit [20:28] contrapunctus, Just have a look at blueprints that might interest you [20:29] zequence ...you're Ailo? O_o [20:29] contrapunctus, Ah, yeah :) [20:30] I changed my nick [20:30] Ah. [20:30] What's Raring? [20:30] 13.04? [20:30] Yep [20:30] Raring Ringtail [20:33] hi [20:34] contrapunctus, If you haven't done so already, get yourself a launchpad account. https://launchpad.net/ [20:34] ttoine, What's up? [20:35] falktx has updated Ardour for 12.10 in his repos [20:35] and so, I can use LV2 plugins on the current version of Ubuntu [20:36] Hm...kinda confusing to understand, zequence. [20:39] zequence, and you, still at the uds ? [21:50] ttoine, Sorry, I had to disappear for a while [21:52] I'm still in Malmö, which is in Sweden, next to Copenhagen, Denmark. Will return home to Gothenburg tomorrow [21:52] Had to book a hotel for this night [22:10] zequence, ok [22:11] hope for you that your trip to home will be good [22:13] ttoine, Thanks. [22:13] ttoine, btw, as you probably read in the mail list, ScottL is taking charge of the PR stuff, so please do talk with him about what you would like to do [22:13] I guess, he'll first want to set things up [22:28] zequence, I saw that. An d I am not very surprised [22:29] I can't spend so much time as he does on Ubuntu Studio [22:29] I just hope that he will let a place to others, like me, to do some stuff with PR [22:30] Because previous Ubuntu Studio leader, Cory, wanted to keep maximum control, and that was the reason why I left the devel time at this time [22:30] We need to build a community [22:31] ttoine: glad to see you are back! [22:32] the devel team [22:32] ttoine, Yea, we absolutely do need freedom to work independently. It's the only way for the team to grow [22:32] holstein, thanks [22:33] and things have to be splitted depending on the skills [22:33] I think we need to have some sort of consent within the team about a range of things, but at the same time, each one responsible of their area should be able to make decisions on their own [22:33] for example, I would like to create a Youtube channel, for video howtos [22:34] zequence, I just hope that our current leader will listen to that ;-) [22:34] ttoine, We still need team leads for some things. I'm the doc lead, for instance. And I would consider ScottL as the lead for the still not existing public relations team === jta is now known as jta_afk [22:35] But, I consider that more of an administrative role, to assure quality [22:35] you can still do PR though, if you want [22:36] I don't think it is as thing to do alone [22:36] PR? [22:36] you can get a few people and do it [22:36] im just saying, if you want to do PR, no one is stopping anyone from doing that [22:36] there is just a plan in motion, somewhere in the works [22:37] I think that, as we have a wordpress based website, we should all have an account. and use it to suggest posts. etc... then, the choosen editors can put online what is good [22:37] ttoine, Sounds like a good idea [22:37] i would actually like to see some press other places [22:37] ttoine, You are free to add workitems for things like this on the public relations blueprint [22:37] other folks talking about it... and link that to the ubuntu newsletter [22:37] holstein, Check out the blueprint to see some suggestions [22:38] yeah, i've seen it.. im just saying what im willing to take on, and plan to do at some point [22:38] i got a bit more work to do though before i can get into it [22:38] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-r-public-relations [22:38] still, im just talking about from a mind-share perspective [22:39] i would like to see things addd to our worpress, sure, but i would also like to just see a general buzz about the project [22:39] i would like to get back to working on jono [22:39] We should use as many channels as possible, I think. As much as is practical and makes sense [22:40] jono could help US a lot.. [22:40] holstein, What's jono? [22:41] jono bacon? [22:41] the ubuntu community lead.. who makes music.. using windwos XP [22:42] and im not attacking him for that decision.. i just would like to help him add ubuntustudio to his music workflow and help with a buzz [22:45] Really? Makes music with XP? [22:45] I think if you guys keep working on ScottL and shooting ideas, this things could be wrapped up pretty soon [22:46] Like within a week or os [22:46] a lot of people use XP and Mac, even if they are fan of Ubuntu or LInux [22:46] There isn't that awful much that needs to be decided before starting to post stuff, I imagine [22:46] sure, but jono is not a "fan" of ubuntu.. he's the #2 guy [22:46] Well Macs I understand a little better, but XP? [22:47] i mean, use what you want... i just recorded at sirriusXM today, and they all have XP running.. but they dont advertise and promote ubuntu [22:47] because when you know it well, it can be very stable for music. there are plenty of hardware and software available [22:48] I personally had a much easier time on XP than on Mac, when I was still using both [22:48] yeah, but jono should be using it... its quite equivalent to a desktop user saying "i know windows and word" [22:49] Mac had a lot more issues in the past. Probably not true anymore [22:49] and im not saying, lets go give him a hard time.. i really just want to teach him to use ubuntu for music production.. so he'll talk about it [22:50] Yeah, the blaming will get us nowhere, and I don't care enough to even get started. Was just wondering. :) [22:50] holstein, so you will take the time to make him change his soundcard if it's not handled by alsa or ffado ? [22:51] ttoine: i would send him one in the mail.. and have offered [22:51] because around me, the only thing people are saying is : yes, ardour is great. But there near no good plugins to work with. I can't open my previous work. What's up with my commercial plugins ? [22:51] etc. [22:52] ttoine: its a matter of time, and learing JACK, and the software [22:52] I don't think so [22:52] ttoine: thats what jono said [22:52] for example, Harrison Mixbus, based on Ardour, is a great software [22:52] when i left him no other option (excuse) [22:53] ttoine: when folks talk about plugs, they are talking about vst's.. instruments [22:53] but it is very good on Windows and Mac because it can use commercial plugins [22:53] it is not possible easily on Linux [22:53] we dont have ones that folks like [22:53] holstein, no [22:53] ttoine: i dont think thats up for debate, man [22:53] ttoine: we dont have them [22:53] I speak about recording audio. so commercial compressors, eq, etc... [22:53] they arent available [22:53] yes [22:54] ttoine: those users are mis-informed and not looking for alternatives [22:54] hum [22:54] ttoine: they want the exact plugs they use [22:54] I just think that this is one of the reason why Jono still use XP [22:54] ttoine: hes says instruments [22:54] drums [22:55] vbsvst's [22:55] vst's* [22:55] anyways, you can ask him [22:55] yes [22:55] im just saying what i see, and have encoutered [22:56] when folks say "i dont have a verb" and i suggest one, and they try it, they usually accept it [22:56] One of my good friends sampled zynaddsubfx sounds he created, and then, go in XP to use them in fruity loops [22:56] the instruments... we dont have those quite as nice and easy [22:56] zynadd is a great example.. or the current yoshimi [22:57] Perhaps, we should reference somewhere all the commercial native plugins and insturments for Linux available [22:57] ttoine: they arent included though... which is another challenge [22:57] unfortunately, i think folks come to ubuntustudio to save money [22:57] They don't need to be included. But we have to speak about them [22:57] ttoine: wont hurt [22:58] ttoine: harrison and mixbux wnated to list ubuntustudio as the official supported distro [22:58] ttoine: i think we missed the boat on that though [22:58] holstein: Do you remember the project, some music professor started, to record all instruments of a symphonic orchestra, and release them under some CC license? Whatever happened to the project? [22:58] ttoine: i see it at AVlinux.. [22:58] astraljava: lsd would remember... open orchestra [22:58] something like that [22:58] yes. but think that at the moment, UbuntuStudio is the only easy to install multimedia linux distro at the moment [22:59] nah.. AVlinux is nice [22:59] holstein: Ok, thanks. [22:59] very nice... and some other spins... kxstudio.. etc [23:01] holstein, what do you use for your own productions ? [23:01] ttoine: my studio rig is running ubuntustudio 10.04 with the kxstudio ppa's added [23:01] i have a 12.10 install on that machine for testing as well [23:02] i have 12.04 installed most other places... though i check out avlinux each new release.. and use it for troubleshooting [23:02] its a great live CD... and a nice distro [23:02] its dying off though :/ [23:10] holstein, that what I woulf like to notice : AVlinux is dying. 64Studio is not updated for a long time ago, Garbure too, ... [23:11] With the workshop I do, I see that there are a lot of people looking at us at the moment [23:12] and not necessary because they want to save money. Some are just day to day Ubuntu or other Linux distro users, wanting to use it for multimedia production [23:13] at the moment, it is like Ubuntu is seen just as a good distro for server, cloud and office [23:13] kx is still around.. av just released.. though 64 has been dead, and openDAW is not happening [23:14] ttoine: thats great!.. in the buisness i am in, which is the music buisness, no one knows about US [23:14] for home, if the coming of valve and blizzard give us access to commercial games, a lot of users will come to Ubuntu. And they all say "I want to make short family movies", etc... [23:14] its either protools, or you aint doing it right [23:15] holstein, yes... too bad... [23:15] i try to show what ubuntustudio can do... but its not easy as just installing the softare and loading it up [23:15] I use kxstudio with Ubuntu, and Ubuntu Studio, it is a great addon [23:16] i think we can get some buzz doing though [23:16] i dont even want to personally address what ubuntustudio can replace [23:16] i just want to show what im doing with it, and make folks want it [23:16] holstein, when I come with a standard live usb of Ubuntu Studio, show that it runs on any laptop, with a firewire or usb sound card, and that you can record etc... it is impressive. But people I see are all hobbyists, or floss enthousiats [23:17] ttoine: i think thats great thogh.. and it doesnt hurt to spread the word! [23:18] yes. One major release for Linux will help us : the video editor "Lighworks" [23:18] yup!... are you following that ttoine ? [23:18] if it really happens, we will have a serious pro video editor available. And for free for hobbyists [23:18] where are we with it? [23:18] i think steam is going to hel ptoo [23:19] holstein, one of the thing I do best is following and finding news on what interest me ;-) [23:20] holstein, it is official that they release the best parts of Lightworks as an Open Source software. Their economic model is freemium : you pay for restricted codecs modules, etc... [23:21] ttoine: i hope that doesnt keep us from being abe to include it by default [23:22] well, im almost home after 7+ hours in the car!... bbl [23:23] ok [23:23] holstein, me too. It will be far better than Cinelerra... [23:30] good night ! === jta_afk is now known as jta