[11:59] <cfhowlett> anyone here
[11:59] <cfhowlett> ?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> Need help.  Writing a faux ransom note.  Which font to use?  Pretty sure there's one for this purpose ....
[13:20] <ubuntu-studio> hej all
[13:21] <smartboyhw> Hi ubuntu-studio
[13:21] <monfis> sory
[13:21] <monfis> i not remeber to cange my nick
[13:21] <smartboyhw> monfis, no problems
[13:22] <monfis> sory for my english
[13:22] <smartboyhw> monfis, it is OK
[13:22] <monfis> you work in it
[13:23] <monfis> ?
[13:24] <smartboyhw> monfis, Quality Assurance mainly
[13:25] <smartboyhw> monfis, so what is the problem?
[13:25] <smartboyhw> or question:D
[13:25] <monfis> i not have problem
[13:25] <monfis> :D
[13:25] <smartboyhw> monfis, LOL
[13:26] <monfis> my hdd is bored well i use os of dvd
[13:27] <smartboyhw> monfis, !?
[13:29] <monfis> you know, my pc have crash  end hdd hawe bat sectors
[13:29] <smartboyhw> monfis, oh ok
[13:29] <smartboyhw> So you are now using live dvd right?
[13:29] <monfis> yes
[13:30] <smartboyhw> :)
[13:35] <monfis> well i dont drink, i cant drinkig rusian girl
[13:36] <monfis> ist to math for me
[13:37] <smartboyhw> monfis, !?
[13:40] <monfis> i dont undestand i reset computer when it start
[13:41] <monfis> maby it destroy start sectors
[13:42] <monfis> you know, sametime  i use windows it can install grub f fllopy
[13:42] <monfis> ?
[13:44] <monfis> suse can it bat i dont know what is it of windows
[13:50] <monfis> sory its oficjal canel or czat calel ?
 i look for wikipedia i read you is warior
[13:53] <smartboyhw> monfis, what?
[13:53] <monfis> Wartime production
[13:53] <monfis> At the time of the First World War, manufacturing processes typically became more complex with larger numbers of workers being supervised. This period saw the widespread introduction of mass production and piece work, which created problems as workmen could now earn more money by the production of extra products, which in turn occasionally led to poor quality workmanship being passed on to the assembly lines. To counter bad workmanship, full-time
[13:53] <monfis> inspectors were introduced to identify, quarantine and ideally correct product quality failures. Quality control by inspection in the 1920s and 1930s led to the growth of quality inspection functions[citation needed], separately organised from production and large enough to be headed by superintendents.
[13:54] <monfis> of sory
[13:54] <smartboyhw> monfis, !?
[13:54] <monfis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_assurance
[13:54] <smartboyhw> monfis, eh I am not
[13:56] <monfis> i mast lern to harest
[13:58] <monfis> i lern laglage in the computer game
[14:01] <contrapunctus> What is this? I don't even?
[14:01] <monfis> sory for my laglage
[14:02] <cfhowlett> !ops|monfis:
[14:02] <smartboyhw> Who the?
[14:03] <smartboyhw> Actually this needs an update I think
[14:03] <monfis> update on live
[14:04] <monfis> it work bat it ...
[14:15] <PeterAC> Hello @all.
[14:15] <monfis> haj peter
[14:15] <smartboyhw> Hello PeterAC
[14:16] <PeterAC> Just as a short intro: I am a long-term Ubuntu (standard) user and try to set up an ubuntustudio box for software synthesizing, to play an Akai EWI-USB.
[14:18] <PeterAC> I downloaded the 12.04.1 version, but during install the system seems to hang several times until I move the mouse or press return. Is this normal?
[14:18] <smartboyhw> PeterAC, hmm it shouldn't hang
[14:19] <PeterAC> I would agree, but it does. It is on a Lenovo IdeaPad that worked flawlessly for several years before with Ub. 10.04
[14:19] <smartboyhw> PeterAC, ouch. I thought Lenovo IdeaPad had bad rep on installing Ubuntu
[14:20] <monfis> train use 12.10
[14:21] <cfhowlett> smartboyhw: I don't know about reputation of lenovo, but I'm here in beijing.  Installed Edubuntu on the local issue, low spec Lenovo laptop provided me.  Everything installed flawlessly including wifi.  Out of box functionality 100%
[14:21] <monfis> train it of live usb
[14:21] <smartboyhw> cfhowlett, oh ok
[14:21] <smartboyhw> monfis, train what?
[14:22] <monfis> hm
[14:23] <monfis> sory i stupyd samtaimi reape same words
[14:24] <monfis> bat i lern if ai hawe time
[14:25] <PeterAC> Well, after booting anew (first real boot into the new system) the same effect is observed: I need to shove the mouse around partially for the system to continue visibly.
[14:27] <monfis> ok, you mast configure os of your preferets ?
[14:28] <werto> o/
[14:28] <smartboyhw> Hi werto
[14:28]  * smartboyhw wonders why so many people came to the channel today
[14:28] <cfhowlett> werto: greetigns
[14:29] <werto> hi smartboyhw, hi cfhowlett o/
[14:29] <monfis> \o/ hi werto
[14:29]  * cfhowlett LTS install only means no heartache every 6 months.  Just sayin'
[14:30] <werto> hi monfis \o\
[14:30] <contrapunctus> +1 cfhowlett
[14:31] <werto> I'm not an ubuntustudio user, but i'm glad of being in here
[14:31] <smartboyhw> werto, oh?
[14:32] <werto> i was searching for some interesting chans on freenode and I also found ubuntustudio
[14:33] <smartboyhw> werto, oh?
[14:33] <werto> smartboyhw, I'm sorry, I don't understand your monovocal question
[14:33] <smartboyhw> werto, I mean like "Oh really?"
[14:34] <werto> oh, thank you, new to me, I'm not a good english writer
[14:34] <werto> true
[14:38] <werto> I'm not well informed, but in Ubuntu studio now, about complete music composition (with midi notations), there's only lmms, ardour and a notation program or I'm wrong?
[14:38] <smartboyhw> werto, no I think
[14:39] <werto> I'm going to check the site
[14:41] <werto> i've seen there's no lmms
[14:42] <smartboyhw> werto, we can't include it, licensing issues I think
[14:43] <werto> oh, you're a developer/maintainer so
[14:43] <werto> I should understand, it's probably releated to the fact that lmms is a kind of clone of fruity loops
[14:43] <smartboyhw> werto, I don't do coding normally, I do testing:D
[14:43] <contrapunctus> smartboyhw? Licensing issues in LMMS?
[14:44] <smartboyhw> contrapunctus, ask holstein he mentioned that I think (or stochastic)?
[14:44] <contrapunctus> werto, that doesn't mean that the user can't install LMMS, just that it can't come pre installed ;)
[14:44] <werto> thank you contrapunctus, yes i did know
[14:45] <werto> I was curious about the licensing issue
[14:45] <werto> I don't really like lmms but I like the kind of efforts they've done to make something working and free on linux
[14:46] <werto> smartboyhw, nice thing. So are you a musician or a 360° like artist? :)
[14:46] <smartboyhw> werto, neither. I use it for video production mainly
[14:47] <werto> smartboyhw: nice! I've seen that openshot guys did a really brilliant work
[14:47] <smartboyhw> werto, yes they do:D
[14:48] <werto> I've never seen a so clean made, easy to use and powerful video production program on linux
[14:57] <monfis> bay all
[15:17] <studio-user407> sto installando ubuntu studio :D
[18:33] <Mish> Hello people. This isn't ubuntustudio related, but I just wanted some help with something. Now, I am a complete audio noob, so when I drag and drop an midi into Qtractor and hit play, I don't hear anything. I tried after starting JACK and still I can't hear anything. Can someone point out my noobish error? thanks
[18:38] <contrapunctus> Hm...
[18:38] <contrapunctus> Mish
[18:39] <Mish> yes?
[18:39] <contrapunctus> MIDI is not audio, as you might know. It's just info - note on, velocity, and note off. Needs to be fed into a sampler or synth to get sound.
[18:40] <Mish> does that mean I would need to run the virtual MIDI keyboard with a virtual cable?
[18:41] <contrapunctus> Even the virtual MIDI keyboard won't makes sounds on its own. Needs to go into a synth or sampler.
[18:41] <contrapunctus> You have any synth installed? Yoshimi, ZynAddSubFX, AmSynth, Aeolus, something?
[18:41] <Mish> hmm.. And may I know how do I do that (sorry for asking really basic questions)
[18:42] <contrapunctus> O.o
[18:42] <Z0oM> install things using the software center
[18:42] <contrapunctus> Blue button in the top left corner > multimedia >
[18:43] <Mish> um yes I have Aeolus (although it doesn't seem to open when I click on the menu item), Foo YC20, PHASEX I think...
[18:43] <contrapunctus> Aha.
[18:43] <contrapunctus> Is JACK running?
[18:43] <Mish> yes
[18:43] <contrapunctus> Dunno about Aeolus, but some things don't open without it.
[18:44] <Mish> ok Aeolus opened now
[18:44] <Mish> (sheesh I'm dumb)
[18:44] <contrapunctus> Aha :)
[18:44] <contrapunctus> We were all there once. ^^
[18:45] <Mish> I suppose
[18:45] <contrapunctus> Open patchage, or connections in qjackctl.
[18:45] <contrapunctus> Open a terminal, type a2jmidid
[18:45] <Mish> ok done
[18:45] <Z0oM> contrapunctus, can do the connections from qtractor
[18:45] <contrapunctus> and hit enter
[18:45] <Z0oM> even alsa midi
[18:46] <contrapunctus> True, ZOom...in fact it's better if you help, I'm no expert myself :S
[18:46] <Z0oM> I'm just a noob
[18:46] <Z0oM> but, let me open aeolus too, just a sec
[18:46] <contrapunctus> Same =S
[18:47] <Mish> ok I did that, says Jack midi - alsa sequencer bridge
[18:48] <contrapunctus> Mish - connect qtractor's MIDI output to aeolus' MIDI input.
[18:48] <contrapunctus> Preferably in patchage (less confusion).
[18:48] <contrapunctus> yeah.
[18:48] <contrapunctus> Now see the connections in qjackctl or patchage.
[18:53] <Z0oM> Mish, how are you doing?
[18:54] <Mish> um...in patchage, qtractor has a master tab and aeolus has an 'in'
[18:54] <contrapunctus> Yes.
[18:54] <Mish> and I connect both of them right?
[18:54] <contrapunctus> one sec
[18:55] <Z0oM> in my patchage blue means audio, and green and red means MIDI
[18:55] <contrapunctus> Okay, for me, the MIDI output of qtractor is greeen
[18:55] <contrapunctus> Lol ZOom :)
[18:55] <Mish> yes the Master shows up in green
[18:55] <Z0oM> :-)
[18:56] <Z0oM> aeolus has two green ports, one in and the other out
[18:56] <Mish> yes i see that
[18:57] <contrapunctus> So connect the qtractor green out to aeolus green in.
[18:57] <Mish> ok i did it
[18:57] <contrapunctus> In Patchage, green = ALSA MIDI, red = JACK MIDI, I think.
[18:57] <Z0oM> contrapunctus, that is correct
[18:57] <contrapunctus> Now play the MIDI notes in qtractor.
[18:57] <contrapunctus> Oh wait, first click on some stops in aeolus.
[18:58] <Z0oM> Mish, connect the the blue outputs from aeolus to the sistem's playback ports so you can hear aeolus
[18:58] <contrapunctus> ^Yeah, I was gonna say that
[19:00] <Mish> did that....i'll try to play something now....
[19:01] <contrapunctus> I think aeolus is a bit too confusing for starters =S
[19:01] <Mish> um no still can't hear anything
[19:01] <contrapunctus> One sec Mish
[19:01] <Z0oM> have you selected voices in aeolus?
[19:02] <Mish> yes I have principal 8 and oboe selected
[19:02] <Z0oM> and have you enabled midi in aeolus?
[19:02] <Z0oM> in the bottom right corner you have a MIDI button
[19:03] <Mish> yes there is a midi off and a midi button
[19:03] <Z0oM> click on it and you will see keyboards 1 2 3 and p
[19:03] <Mish> yes
[19:03] <Z0oM> select a keyboard, so aeolus knows in wich keyboard of the organ you want to play :-)
[19:03] <Z0oM> now try again.
[19:04] <Mish> ok....
[19:04] <Mish> yes I can hear stuff now
[19:04] <contrapunctus> ZOom, *I* am not getting any sound! Lol!
[19:04] <Z0oM> :-)
[19:04] <Mish> thanks a lot for the help guys
[19:04] <Mish> haha
[19:04] <Z0oM> contrapunctus, have you tried the midi thing I just told Mish?
[19:04] <contrapunctus> Yeah!
[19:06] <Z0oM> Mish, unless you want organ sounds, I would try some samplers, like qsynth or qsampler, with some soundfonts... it's easier than aeolus to work with... at least for me!
[19:06] <Mish> um yes I would like some piano samples....
[19:06] <Mish> ok i studio has qsynth installed
[19:07] <Z0oM> contrapunctus, have you made aeolus sound?
[19:08] <contrapunctus> In the sense?
[19:08] <contrapunctus> I've picked some stops yeah
[19:08] <Z0oM> I don't understand "In the sense?"
[19:10] <contrapunctus> In the sense  = what does 'have you made aeolus sound' mean?
[19:11] <Z0oM> ah, ok. You said you weren't getting any sound from aeolus, I was asking if you already solved it
[19:12] <contrapunctus> No, no sound from aeolus, and oddly enough, not from Yoshimi either?!
[19:12] <contrapunctus> Scary.
[19:12] <Z0oM> I don't know Yoshimi
[19:13] <Z0oM> use Gmidimonitor to see if they get midi messages
[19:13] <contrapunctus> Yoshimi is showing output in its meters
[19:13] <contrapunctus> no sound
[19:14] <Z0oM> stupid question, have you connected the outputs correctly to the system's playback inputs?
[19:14] <contrapunctus> Okay, cadence-session-start -s, working now :)
[19:15] <Z0oM> ok
[19:16] <Mish> i have connected qtractor master green output to fluid synth input port.
[19:16] <contrapunctus> I think my speakers had lost power :))
[19:16] <Z0oM> what is cadence? a ladish frontend?
[19:16] <Mish> what are the 'Midi through' things floating around?
[19:17] <Z0oM> Mish, I use the Midi through as bridges between JACK MIDI and ALSA MIDI
[19:17] <Z0oM> the green and red connectors
[19:18] <Mish> oh ok
[19:19] <contrapunctus> Cadence = jack toolbox...like qjackctl but better.
[19:20] <contrapunctus> Aeolus...all stops on, all manuals combined...even one note sounds like a frigging orchestra. Organs pwn.
[19:20] <Mish> haha
[19:20] <contrapunctus> Wish classical guitar could be as powerful :(
[19:21] <Mish> do I use Qsynth the same way I do with Aeolus?
[19:21] <contrapunctus> Qsynth...is a SF2 player I think...get some SF files first...lots of free ones on the net.
[19:21] <Z0oM> yes, the connections are the same for any instrument
[19:22] <Z0oM> it's the same as if you were on the studio with some cables and instruments.
[19:22] <contrapunctus> ZOom, are there more good SF2s on the net than SFZs or GIGs?
[19:22] <Mish> um sorry for asking but what are SFs?
[19:23] <Z0oM> don't know
[19:23] <contrapunctus> Soundfonts.
[19:23] <Mish> I mean what are soundfronts?
[19:23] <contrapunctus> .SF2 = soundfont format, .SFZ = sforzando format, .GIG = gigasampler format...these are formats for samples.
[19:23] <contrapunctus> aka 'instrument files'.
[19:24] <Z0oM> I am making a collection of soundfonts, and I am finding some realistic sounds out there, if I find some sfz, or GIG file that I want to test, just test them with qsampler
[19:24] <Mish> oh ok
[19:26] <contrapunctus> ZOom, I asked because there seem to be more SF2 players on Linux...and they seem to be better integrated - for example, LMMS and Muse have internal SF2 players, I think, while only qtractor supports LV2 usage of linuxsampler.
[19:26] <contrapunctus> ...and Louigi Verona uses SF2s... :(
[19:27] <Z0oM> Here is where I get lost. Who is Luigi Verona?
[19:27] <contrapunctus> WHAT.
[19:29] <Z0oM> mmm is a soundcloud user...
[19:29] <Z0oM> i think I am going to listen to it...
[19:38] <Mish> for doing midi stuff do I always have to us a2jmidid in terminal?
[19:39] <contrapunctus> ZOom - He's a great musician...uses Linux...likes HarmonySEQ, din, giada, LADISH, ardent supporter of LMMS and a plugin/IME-based workflow for Linux.
[19:43] <Z0oM> Mish, I use Ubuntu, and I dont use a2jmidid in any terminal.
[19:44] <Z0oM> contrapunctus, thank you for the info. Interesting.
[19:44] <Mish> contrapunctus told me to use that in terminal although I don't know what that does
[19:45] <len-dt> Mish, no, but it's nicer than alternatives.
[19:45] <Mish> Hi there Len
[19:45] <Z0oM> I think it is alsa to Jack midi daemon or something like that
[19:45] <len-dt> Hello
[19:45] <len-dt> Ya, sort of a bridge.
[19:45] <len-dt> It makes all the alsa midi ports available in jack midi.
[19:45] <Mish> hmm...ok...
[19:45] <contrapunctus> Mish, if you install KXStudio and use Cadence instead of qjackctl, it'll autostart a2jmidid (as well as PulseAudio-JACK bridges) for you.
[19:46] <len-dt> So if you use some apps that only do jack midi or use a firewire device you need it.
[19:46] <len-dt> Even with qjackctl you can have it start automatically with jack.
[19:47] <Mish> execute script on startup?
[19:47] <contrapunctus> Ah yeah, the run script on jack start, right?
[19:47] <len-dt> Yup
[19:47] <Z0oM> in wich repository of kxstudio is it?
[19:47] <len-dt> Use the -e option if you want the hw ports as well
[19:48] <contrapunctus> ZOom ...?
[19:48] <Z0oM> sorry
[19:48] <len-dt> If you are using a FW midi port you don't need to do that.
[19:49] <Z0oM> I mean: in what repository of kxstudio is cadence? I can't find it...
[19:49] <Z0oM> I think I have all the kxstudio repositories added... let me check...
[19:50] <contrapunctus> ZOom? If you installed KXStudio properly it should already be ready to run O_o
[19:50] <Z0oM> my system is a bit special...
[19:51] <contrapunctus> ?
[19:52] <contrapunctus> I just installed Ubuntu Studio 12.04 then followed the steps here... http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Documentation:Ubuntu:Upgrade
[19:53] <contrapunctus> If something didn't work properly, I went through the steps again - usually its because the internet barfed and some package or the other was skipped.
[19:53] <Z0oM> I haven't installed the meta packages, just the software I need
[19:53] <contrapunctus> Hm...
[19:54] <Z0oM> but the music repository was dead when I added the repos... maybe that is the problem...
[19:58] <contrapunctus> Dunno, ZOom, never tried a non-standard install. Ask Mr. F himself. :)
[19:59] <Z0oM> I have a lot to discover with the system I already have... for now I think I all works as I need, so I'll continue using qjackctl and patchage... maybe in the next ubuntu upgrade...
[20:00] <Z0oM> the only thing that is driving me crazy is the swing thing in Hydrogen... I can't find the solution...
[20:00] <contrapunctus> ??
[20:00] <Z0oM> well, I solved it partially with the solution you gave me
[20:01] <Z0oM> the 8T resolution.
[20:01] <contrapunctus> Aha :) What _is_ the problem?
[20:04] <Z0oM> the problem is that I want to make a rythm that has swing, so I write it on Hydrogen, and it plays correctly with even 8ths, but if I go to the mixer window, and turn the swing knob up, it does not affect the 8ths... later I discovered that it affect the 16th or semiquavers (¿?¿?¿?¿?) and you told me that I could make a workarround writing the swing as if it were "tresillos" (this is the spanish word, as I don't know the engli
[20:04] <Z0oM> sh word for the figure you use when you write down three quavers in the space of two quavers).
[20:06] <contrapunctus> Ah, triplets.
[20:06] <Z0oM> ok, thanks.
[20:06] <contrapunctus> Well, that's usually how it's written...
[20:06] <contrapunctus> I suppose the drawback is having to write out parts again if you want/don't want swing.
[20:06] <Mish> Thank's for all the help guys. I'll be leaving now
[20:06] <contrapunctus> Come back again, Mish ^^
[20:06] <contrapunctus> Share your music sometime :)
[20:06] <Z0oM> Good luck Mish
[20:07] <Mish> :)
[20:07] <Z0oM> the thing that annoys me is that I allways saw the swing in the quavers, and this program applies it to the semiquavers...
[20:09] <Z0oM> and google gives me nothing about it... the fact that I am the only person looking for this issue makes me think that I am doing something wrong...
[20:09] <contrapunctus> Well, no harm in having a word with the devs and/or community.
[20:09] <Z0oM> that is true...
[20:10] <Z0oM> I have to go. contrapunctus thank you for your help once again. Hope to read you again.
[20:11] <contrapunctus> Talk on the forums and tell me about it
[20:11] <contrapunctus> Ciao :)
[20:11] <Z0oM> ok, bye.
[22:41] <almondiga> hi
[22:41] <almondiga> hi / hola
[22:42] <holstein> almondiga: o/
[22:42] <almondiga> alguien puede ayudarme a enrutar 2 redes desde un ubuntu studio? / could someone help me to route between 2 networks using ubuntu studio?
[22:44] <holstein> almondiga: route between 2 networks?
[22:45] <holstein> elaborate, and i'll try and help, or send you to the right place
[22:45] <holstein> !vpn
[22:46] <holstein> almondiga: also, remember that ubuntustudio is ubuntu... so for more non-ubuntustudio related queries, such as advanced networking, you can try the other more popular channels...
[22:46] <almondiga> holstein: yes, thank you, i'm know asking at #ubuntu channel
[22:46] <almondiga> sorry