| tdignan | whats ugly about it :)? | 00:01 |
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| tdignan | it's called a theme | 00:01 |
| bandit-led | again he says that cause he has been programing in qt since 99 | 00:01 |
| tdignan | qt is nice too, but eh | 00:01 |
| bekks | who said that? | 00:01 |
| tdignan | I'd use Qt if I wanted to write a cross-platform desktop app, because I like pyqt4 | 00:02 |
| tdignan | but if I was going to write for the linux desktop, I'd use GTK, because that's what I typically use. | 00:02 |
| bandit-led | oh and gtk doesnt ship on most recent distros i think the whole qt gtk thing died years ago looks like i was mistaken | 00:02 |
| tdignan | gtk doesn't ship on recent distros!? | 00:03 |
| tdignan | That makes so little sense. I'm fairly certain I'm staring at much GTK right now | 00:03 |
| bandit-led | it was a joke ;) | 00:03 |
| tdignan | oh ok :) | 00:03 |
| bandit-led | most of the required files are installed for both qt and gtk now its really a mute point | 00:04 |
| * tdignan cranks it up to 11 | 00:04 | |
| tdignan | So guys, Linus uses Gtk | 00:04 |
| tdignan | https://github.com/torvalds/subsurface | 00:04 |
| tdignan | also, he hates C++ | 00:04 |
| tdignan | and you should follow him blindly | 00:04 |
| tdignan | so Qt is out, see ya | 00:04 |
| bandit-led | oh lord | 00:06 |
| bandit-led | this is so 99 | 00:06 |
| tdignan | desktop apps are something like steam engines now :) | 00:07 |
| tdignan | gotta use HTML5, obviously. | 00:07 |
| bandit-led | people are here good maybe you can help | 00:09 |
| bandit-led | i keep getting complete lockups with latest kernel | 00:10 |
| bandit-led | latest video drivers as well | 00:10 |
| bandit-led | screen does does not crash but i cant use kyb or mouse | 00:10 |
| bandit-led | no killing and no ssh | 00:10 |
| bandit-led | have to hard reset | 00:11 |
| tdignan | sysrq magic works though, right | 00:12 |
| bandit-led | no | 00:12 |
| bandit-led | nothing!! | 00:12 |
| tdignan | I'd confirm that it's indeed a kernel issue and not a hardware one | 00:12 |
| bandit-led | i have been having this issue for 6 months and kept hoping it will be fixed | 00:13 |
| bandit-led | thats what i need the help with | 00:13 |
| tdignan | I used to have a computer that froze to deadlock, and it was caused by an overheating hdd | 00:13 |
| bandit-led | wouldnt that through a warning with hddtemp | 00:14 |
| tdignan | it didn't | 00:14 |
| bandit-led | no no errors | 00:14 |
| tdignan | if you use a livecd does this problem happen? | 00:14 |
| bandit-led | its baffiling my | 00:14 |
| bandit-led | some times yes tdignan | 00:14 |
| bandit-led | this is an ivy bridge build | 00:14 |
| tdignan | i'd put my money on hardware | 00:15 |
| bandit-led | yes but what would lock it up and not allow a sysrq? | 00:15 |
| bandit-led | and no obvious errors | 00:15 |
| tdignan | anything that undermines the system beneath the kernel, such as overheating hardware, or cosmic rays | 00:16 |
| tdignan | boot into the bios next time it happens and check the temp of things | 00:16 |
| bandit-led | i have temps are normal | 00:16 |
| tdignan | key the key to | 00:17 |
| tdignan | sorry* | 00:17 |
| bandit-led | i keep Hardware Sensors Indicator running and every thing is normal | 00:17 |
| tdignan | what if you switch your video driver to vesa | 00:17 |
| tdignan | i had a system lock up from some bad options in an nvidia driver once | 00:17 |
| bandit-led | thats what i run in the livecd and it will lock up as well | 00:18 |
| bandit-led | there are tons of bugs with these same problems but no one has any ideas | 00:18 |
| bandit-led | i even removed my fbconsole to make sure that was not the issue | 00:18 |
| bandit-led | there have been bug reports for months with this issues and i cant seem to narrow anything down and no one else can either | 00:19 |
| tdignan | well sorry to hear it man. good luck. I had systems before that locked up, throwing them away was satisfying. | 00:20 |
| tdignan | this laptop has a couple very minor issues, one of which I can fix soon.. a loose headphone jack.. Other of which I'll just deal with.. a flaky left USB port. | 00:21 |
| tdignan | I got what I paid for. | 00:21 |
| bandit-led | sure i waited 4 years for a new build and i have no more money i will just buy a mac :P | 00:21 |
| tdignan | cheapest laptop in the store, but with Linux it's blazing fast and lean on memory. Even when I'm using eclipse. | 00:21 |
| tdignan | figure out what's wrong with it and replace the offending hardware | 00:22 |
| bandit-led | hmm thats an idea where to start | 00:22 |
| bandit-led | nothing in any logs any where and no warnings or errors | 00:22 |
| tdignan | open the box and look for bad capacitors, they will look round on top | 00:23 |
| tdignan | perhaps be leaking acid or rusty | 00:23 |
| tdignan | check the power supply | 00:23 |
| bandit-led | i dont have a side on my box and there are no bulging caps | 00:23 |
| tdignan | take it to the geek squad | 00:23 |
| tdignan | ;) | 00:23 |
| bandit-led | ahahaha | 00:23 |
| bandit-led | i like the bog report from 10-26-2012 where they asked the person to bisect from 3.2.0-23.36 to 3.5.0-17.28 and find the problem | 00:25 |
| bandit-led | bug' | 00:25 |
| tdignan | yeah, that's a common response to bug reports | 00:57 |
| tdignan | "where's the patch?" | 00:58 |
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