[09:41] <brobostigon> good morning eveyrone.
[21:04] <plod> brobostigon: yeah good sorry took me so long to reply
[21:06] <brobostigon> plod: i wa spreoocupied aswell, fixing a problem in debian, as to a failiure in udev and props, which caused it to fail to boot, after kernel load.
[21:07] <plod> uhoh
[21:07] <plod> nothing too bad i hoped
[21:08] <brobostigon> plod: just boot failiure, made some confgi file changes, and it is now booting, and mouse and keyboard work, but things like top etc, dont work properly.
[21:09] <plod> :/
[21:09] <plod> not good
[21:09] <brobostigon> agreed. yes. but i fixed it.
[21:09] <brobostigon> partially.
[21:09] <plod> well thats always good
[21:09] <plod> but fully is always better
[21:09] <plod> been noticing my vms failing to boot recently but virtual power cycle fixing
[21:10] <brobostigon> yes, i agree.
[21:10] <brobostigon> hmm.
[21:12] <plod> but not debian
[21:12] <plod> running that on work desktop and coding vm here
[21:14] <brobostigon> ah.
[21:18] <plod> ubuntu in my vm cluster
[21:19] <plod> really loving some of their server stuff
[21:19] <plod> that and ansible
[21:24] <brobostigon> plod: ah, not used ubuntu as a server, i have only used debian.
[21:24] <plod> well I hadn't
[21:24] <plod> but then cam
[21:24] <plod> came across vmbuilder
[21:24] <plod> and I am hooked
[21:24] <brobostigon> ah.
[21:24] <plod> mostly used centos rhe up untill tha tpont
[21:26] <brobostigon> i had tried redhat as desktop, and broke it failiry quickly last time. huge package problems. only one, i havent had problem with was debian stable. i use debian sid/unstable on my desktop, but such problems are expected there.
[21:26] <plod> wheezy on work desktop
[21:27] <plod> still using windows on this laptop at home but use virtualbox wheezy if i need to do any work
[21:27] <plod> and tbh putty to a shell for heavy lifting
[21:27] <brobostigon> plod: in source.list, i specify stable/unstable etc, not the codename. i am just used to doing that.
[21:28] <plod> hehe
[21:28] <brobostigon> sources.list*
[21:29] <plod> I am wondering about going back to ubuntu on the desktop
[21:29] <plod> but really am not a fan of unity
[21:30] <plod> preffer gnome 2.0
[21:30] <brobostigon> plod: there is now a ubuntu gnome remix.
[21:30] <plod> entrestente
[21:30] <plod> not gnome shell
[21:30] <brobostigon> plod: well, gnome2 is no longer maintained, and became unmaintainable, eventually.
[21:31] <plod> :(
[21:32] <brobostigon> plod: i use gnome3 and gnome-shell from sid and experimental, and compile some parts myself, it is very good now, compared to previous versions, and has improved by billions of miles.
[21:38] <plod> well i liked it was more my pcs werent good enough to run it
[21:38] <plod> though home pc and this one would prob be okay
[21:39] <brobostigon> plod: you just need opengl, and accelerated graphics support. even my eeepc 900 can run it, and that is most basic.
[22:06] <plod> maybe ill give it a whirl
[22:07] <brobostigon> :)