/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/11/03/#ubuntu-ops.txt

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rollingfucking guess whos here02:49
rollingo.o02:49
TheLordOfTimerolling's spamming in #ubuntu02:52
ubottuwilee-nilee called the ops in #ubuntu (rolling)02:52
rollingHahahahahahahaha02:52
rolling4253030074535603 01/15 815 katarina matovic ADDRESS CITY state zip code PORTUGAL02:53
TheLordOfTimespamming here now too :/02:53
rollinghill billys02:57
rolling!ops lol02:58
rolling!ops jrib wanking again02:58
ubotturolling: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:58
gnomefreakanyone have the email for the IIRC handy?04:36
Unit193irc-council@lists.ubuntu.com ?04:49
gnomefreakUnit193: thanks. does the ? mean you are not sure?04:56
Unit193More that I wasn't sure if that's what you were looking for.04:57
gnomefreakUnit193: ah, im jusdt need to ask a favor due to kllost email on my end04:57
gnomefreaki will try it thanks04:58
gnomefreakok swent that email, thanks again Unit19305:07
Unit193Sure.05:07
ubottuelkng called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()07:36
TheLordOfTimeanyone for -offtopic to deal with an excess flooder?08:09
TheLordOfTime(#ubuntu-offtopic that is)08:09
TheLordOfTimefreenode fixed it, thanks.08:16
daxI set +b *!*@unaffiliated/fira$##fix_your_connection in #ubuntu-offtopic. I'll keep an eye on ##fix_your_connection and remove it when it's no longer applicable.08:17
Jordan_Udax: Thanks (I don't have op powers in -offtopic or I would have done it myself).08:18
TheLordOfTimeso, question, since Jordan_U said other ops should chime in because its 2AM where he/she is:  TheLordOfTime> question: is asking how to circumvent policies in place on a network on topic in #ubuntu?  if not, rigo's asking how to get his remote desktop working so he can violate corporate-set policies on his environment.  (read the scrollbacks and what I asked him)08:43
Tm_TTheLordOfTime: we usually are not aiding on breaking rules/laws08:45
TheLordOfTimeTm_T, that's what i thought, but i wanted an op to confirm that's the policy, if that's the case, you may need to poke rigo about that, given the subject matter and them confirming my suspicions08:45
TheLordOfTime<TheLordOfTime> rigo, sounds like you're wanting to bypass the proxy at your location to circumvent policies.08:45
TheLordOfTime<rigo> yes. it doesnt sounds like. it IS the thing :)08:45
Tm_TTheLordOfTime: but it's often very gray area, for example if they wouldn't mention for what they need certain technology for, we wouldn't know we would be aiding on circumventing policies08:46
TheLordOfTimeTm_T, they confirmed that's what they're trying to do when i suspected it.08:46
TheLordOfTimeTm_T, i'm highly wary of that stuff anyways.  also, someone posted a forkbomb in -offtopic.08:46
Tm_Tforkbomb is instaban08:46
TheLordOfTimethen someone go deal with it?08:46
TheLordOfTimeor, to work off of what Jordan_U told me, is there no -offtopic op on?08:47
Tm_TI am on it, I try talk sense first though08:48
TheLordOfTimethat works.  in any case, i confirmed what i thought, that helping to circumvent policies is against the general idea of the channel.08:48
TheLordOfTimei'll leave it to ops to decide how to handle rigo in #ubuntu, i'm going to return to stabbing my php5 fork :P08:48
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Seveasnoone4 seems to be something odd11:09
Seveasnot active in channels, just attempting to initiate DCC chats11:10
Seveasdoesn't seem to annoy too many people just yet, but look out for more reports?11:11
Tm_TI got that dcc chat too for ther record11:15
IdleOneDo did I12:20
IdleOneSo*12:20
IdleOneHow can I help you gordonjcp ?12:49
IdleOnegordonjcp: Please don't idle in here12:54
gordonjcpIdleOne: okay then12:54
lhavelundum.13:53
lhavelundwasn't RamchndraApta in -ot banned a few days ago13:54
lhavelundi'm pretty sure i did13:54
lhavelundid 5203313:54
lhavelundi have forgotten how to look those up.13:54
tsimpsonsearch for the id in the bantracker (web api)13:55
lhavelundthat is vaguely helpful.13:55
lhavelund._.13:55
tsimpsonunless you mean @bansearch?13:57
lhavelundideally i'd prefer to access it on the web api13:57
lhavelundbut I've forgotten just about everything to do with it13:57
tsimpsonthen just search for the nick/mask13:58
tsimpsonoptionally in some channel, optionally by some op13:58
lhavelundwhere is the web interface located again?13:58
tsimpsontype @btlogin13:58
lhavelunddang13:58
lhavelundi knew i'd forgotten something13:59
lhavelundno output13:59
lhavelund@btlogin13:59
lhavelundunless, of course, i need to do it in channel13:59
mneptok@login13:59
ubottuError: You are not identified13:59
lhavelund@login13:59
ubottuError: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.13:59
mneptokthat first13:59
lhavelundaha.13:59
lhavelundam I still in the db, tsimpson?14:01
tsimpsonlhavelund: probably under your old nick14:01
lhavelundthat is a possibility14:02
=== lhavelund is now known as MenZa
tsimpsonI'll add your current cloak to the bot, so it knows you14:03
MenZaperfect, cheers14:03
=== MenZa is now known as lhavelund
lhavelundi didn't realise i hadn't done much operating since i nickchanged14:03
tsimpsonsee if you can @whoami14:04
tsimpsonit should say menza14:05
lhavelundit does14:05
lhavelund:D14:05
tsimpsonwell that's my good deed for the day done :)14:06
lhavelund:D14:06
lhavelundappreciate it, tsimpson14:06
lhavelundhow's things around here these days?14:06
lhavelundi see mneptok still lurks. some things never change.14:06
lhavelundHi, RamchandraApte.14:06
RamchandraAptewhy did I get ...14:06
lhavelundI banned an alternative IP of yours the other night for attempted (and unsuccessful) trolling.14:07
RamchandraApteI didn't intend to troll14:07
lhavelundone moment.14:07
lhavelundi'm just finding the log.14:07
lhavelundalso, flooding.14:08
lhavelunddoes "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" sound familiar?14:08
RamchandraApteyes14:08
lhavelundok.14:08
lhavelunddo you now understand why you were banned?14:08
RamchandraAptelhavelund: but why did I get kicked again now?14:08
lhavelundBecause you're just connecting from a different IP, evading the ban (whether intentional or not).14:08
lhavelundGetting a new IP doesn't simply give you a clean slate.14:09
RamchandraApteI didn't do it intentionally14:09
RamchandraApteWe off the modem in the night so ...14:09
mneptokkarma follows like the wheel follows the foot of the ox.14:09
RamchandraApteHow long is the kick?14:09
lhavelundUntil you promise me you'll shape up and a) not flood the channel, and b) not bait users into arguing with you.14:10
RamchandraAptelhavelund: I'm not intenionally baiting users into arguing.14:10
RamchandraApteI thought it was just a discussion.14:10
RamchandraApteI won't flood the channel again14:10
lhavelund2012-10-30T08:50:33 <RamchandraApte> linux is crap14:10
lhavelund2012-10-30T08:50:55 <RamchandraApte> its a disorganised collection of projects patched (like band-aids) together by distros to make it workable14:10
lhavelundyou're entitled to anopinoin, but that's baiting to me.14:10
lhavelundan opinion*14:10
RamchandraAptelhavelund: ok, I was a little over-emotional but that is, in a lesser form, my opinion.14:11
RamchandraAptes/little/14:11
lhavelundwhich is perfectly ok. but i suggest you present your thoughts a little more pragmatically.14:11
RamchandraAptelhavelund: ok.14:11
lhavelundeither way. assuming you'll be nice, i can lift the ban :)14:12
lhavelundjust keep it in mind for future reference.14:12
RamchandraAptelhavelund: remember that I am muted on #python-offtopic so think twice.14:12
lhavelundeh?14:12
mneptokRamchandraApte: coming to Linux-specific channels if that is your opinion is more than confusing to me14:12
lhavelundthe #python* namespace has nothing to do with our channels or how we mod them.14:12
RamchandraAptelhavelund: just giving you background info14:12
lhavelundwe have our policies, they have theirs.14:12
lhavelundso14:13
lhavelundyou're asking me to reconsider removing your ban?14:13
RamchandraApteyes14:13
lhavelundok, i won't remove the ban, then14:13
lhavelundhave a good day.14:13
RamchandraApteyou too :-)14:14
lhavelundif there's nothing else i can help you with, please part the channel. :)14:14
lhavelund*ahem*14:14
RamchandraAptecan you please unkick me14:14
lhavelundunkick you?14:15
RamchandraApte yes.14:15
lhavelundthat's not technically possible14:15
lhavelundbut let me get this straight14:16
lhavelundi say we can remove the ban if you agree to shape up. you ask me to reconsider, implying you're a troublesome user in the first place. i concede that, perhaps we should unban you.14:16
lhavelundlet me try to explain the terminology14:16
RamchandraApteI just said you should think a bit more.14:16
lhavelund1) a kick means you are removed from the channel. not barred from entering it. you can instantly re-join, UNLESS14:17
RamchandraApteI didn't mean to imply I was troublesome.14:17
lhavelund2) you're banned. a ban disallows you from entering the channel.14:17
lhavelundok, let's go back to square one, then.14:17
lhavelundwe believe most of our users are happy to shape up if we talk to them first.14:17
lhavelundwhich is what we're doing with you now.14:17
RamchandraApte  14:17
lhavelundso, a simple question. if i allow you priviliges to re-enter the channel, will you contribute constructively and positively to the atmosphere of the channel, and not break any of our rules?14:18
RamchandraAptelhavelund: yes14:18
lhavelundright, good14:18
lhavelundone final request, then.14:18
RamchandraApteis the ubuntu code of conduct the rules?14:18
lhavelundplease stop asking for help with your python projects in the -offtopic channel. there are python channels available, and they are both more relevant, and presumably more knowledgable of the issue.14:18
lhavelund!coc14:18
ubottuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct  | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv14:18
lhavelund!o4o14:18
ubottuSome topics are controversial and often end in negativity. Take care on subjects like war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, potentially illegal activities and suicide. The topics are not banned; stating your position is ok, but trolling, baiting, hostility or repetition are not. If you are asked to stop, do so politely. Disputes to !appeals, please adhere to !freenode Policy and the !CodeOfConduct14:18
lhavelundthe code of conduct and additional rules apply in !o4o14:19
lhavelundthe code of conduct is a document we ask all community members and developers to adhere to. in the interest of practicalities and avoiding drama in -offtopic, we have additional rules in place to keep it a safe and comfortable place for everyone.14:19
RamchandraAptelhavelund: I did sign it though I lost my signature.14:20
lhavelundsigning it is not necessary.14:20
lhavelund!guidelines14:20
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines14:20
lhavelundthere are additional guidelines there.14:20
lhavelundplease take five minutes to read them, then return here.14:20
RamchandraApteOK thanks14:20
RamchandraAptedone14:22
lhavelundyou read 1959 words in less than two minutes.14:22
lhavelundtry again.14:23
RamchandraApteI skimmed through it.14:23
RamchandraApteI read the main points of the Ubuntu code of conduct.14:23
lhavelundright.14:23
lhavelundeither way. please behave accordingly in our channels, and there will be no more issues.14:23
lhavelundyou are no longer banned, RamchandraApte.14:24
lhavelundfeel free to re-enter the channel, and part this one.14:24
lhavelundhave a good day.14:24
RamchandraApteOK bye14:24
RamchandraApteyou too14:24
lhavelundi really haven't done one of those in far too long.14:25
IdleOnelhavelund: remove the original ban while you're at it :)14:25
lhavelundi suppose i should, yes14:25
lhavelundthanks, IdleOne14:25
IdleOnethank you.14:25
lhavelundsorted14:26
tsimpsonlhavelund: by the way, there is #ubuntu-ops-team now too14:27
IdleOnesupa sekrit channel14:27
bazhang<Wug> noone4: don't dcc people randomly14:53
bazhanganother complaint about him14:53
* lhavelund hugs bazhang 14:55
bazhanggot him in PM14:55
bazhang@mark #ubuntu michealPW] (~michealpw@165.154.108.196): michealPW   constantly offtopic, warned repeatedly14:57
ubottuThe operation succeeded.14:57
bazhanglhavelund, nice to see you back14:57
lhavelundbazhang: :) good to see you.14:58
lhavelundbazhang: i was never gone, just very inactive.14:59
bazhangeven the floodbots are getting d c c spam from noone415:14
Tm_Thi lhavelund15:39
Tm_Twhat, things change around here?15:40
AlanBellhttp://ubottu.com/ircc/2012/11/03/ban-management-changes/16:41
AlanBell^^ changes :)16:41
knomec-c-c-changes16:41
knomehullo AlanBell :)16:41
AlanBellhi knome16:41
bazhangaugh16:44
bazhanghe just gave his teamviewer info on the open channel16:44
ubottubekks called the ops in #ubuntu (desu)17:09
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ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1710 users, 4 overflows, 1714 limit))18:02
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jribikonia: you sure he didn't mean he wouldn't mislead people anymore? Could read that both ways to be honest20:43
ikonianope, not sure20:44
ikoniabut fed up with these fools "it would be easier to uninstall binaries on arch than it would on ubuntu"20:44
ikoniaso I don't see a loss20:44
ikoniasorry if that seems harsh20:45

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