[02:49] <rolling> fucking guess whos here
[02:49] <rolling> o.o
[02:52] <TheLordOfTime> rolling's spamming in #ubuntu
[02:52] <rolling> Hahahahahahahaha
[02:53] <rolling> 4253030074535603	 01/15	 815 	katarina matovic 	ADDRESS 	CITY	 state	 zip code	 PORTUGAL
[02:53] <TheLordOfTime> spamming here now too :/
[02:57] <rolling> hill billys
[02:58] <rolling> !ops lol
[02:58] <rolling> !ops jrib wanking again
[04:36] <gnomefreak> anyone have the email for the IIRC handy?
[04:49] <Unit193> irc-council@lists.ubuntu.com ?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> Unit193: thanks. does the ? mean you are not sure?
[04:57] <Unit193> More that I wasn't sure if that's what you were looking for.
[04:57] <gnomefreak> Unit193: ah, im jusdt need to ask a favor due to kllost email on my end
[04:58] <gnomefreak> i will try it thanks
[05:07] <gnomefreak> ok swent that email, thanks again Unit193
[05:07] <Unit193> Sure.
[08:09] <TheLordOfTime> anyone for -offtopic to deal with an excess flooder?
[08:09] <TheLordOfTime> (#ubuntu-offtopic that is)
[08:16] <TheLordOfTime> freenode fixed it, thanks.
[08:17] <dax> I set +b *!*@unaffiliated/fira$##fix_your_connection in #ubuntu-offtopic. I'll keep an eye on ##fix_your_connection and remove it when it's no longer applicable.
[08:18] <Jordan_U> dax: Thanks (I don't have op powers in -offtopic or I would have done it myself).
[08:43] <TheLordOfTime> so, question, since Jordan_U said other ops should chime in because its 2AM where he/she is:  TheLordOfTime> question: is asking how to circumvent policies in place on a network on topic in #ubuntu?  if not, rigo's asking how to get his remote desktop working so he can violate corporate-set policies on his environment.  (read the scrollbacks and what I asked him)
[08:45] <Tm_T> TheLordOfTime: we usually are not aiding on breaking rules/laws
[08:45] <TheLordOfTime> Tm_T, that's what i thought, but i wanted an op to confirm that's the policy, if that's the case, you may need to poke rigo about that, given the subject matter and them confirming my suspicions
 rigo, sounds like you're wanting to bypass the proxy at your location to circumvent policies.
 yes. it doesnt sounds like. it IS the thing :)
[08:46] <Tm_T> TheLordOfTime: but it's often very gray area, for example if they wouldn't mention for what they need certain technology for, we wouldn't know we would be aiding on circumventing policies
[08:46] <TheLordOfTime> Tm_T, they confirmed that's what they're trying to do when i suspected it.
[08:46] <TheLordOfTime> Tm_T, i'm highly wary of that stuff anyways.  also, someone posted a forkbomb in -offtopic.
[08:46] <Tm_T> forkbomb is instaban
[08:46] <TheLordOfTime> then someone go deal with it?
[08:47] <TheLordOfTime> or, to work off of what Jordan_U told me, is there no -offtopic op on?
[08:48] <Tm_T> I am on it, I try talk sense first though
[08:48] <TheLordOfTime> that works.  in any case, i confirmed what i thought, that helping to circumvent policies is against the general idea of the channel.
[08:48] <TheLordOfTime> i'll leave it to ops to decide how to handle rigo in #ubuntu, i'm going to return to stabbing my php5 fork :P
[11:09] <Seveas> noone4 seems to be something odd
[11:10] <Seveas> not active in channels, just attempting to initiate DCC chats
[11:11] <Seveas> doesn't seem to annoy too many people just yet, but look out for more reports?
[11:15] <Tm_T> I got that dcc chat too for ther record
[12:20] <IdleOne> Do did I
[12:20] <IdleOne> So*
[12:49] <IdleOne> How can I help you gordonjcp ?
[12:54] <IdleOne> gordonjcp: Please don't idle in here
[12:54] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: okay then
[13:53] <lhavelund> um.
[13:54] <lhavelund> wasn't RamchndraApta in -ot banned a few days ago
[13:54] <lhavelund> i'm pretty sure i did
[13:54] <lhavelund> id 52033
[13:54] <lhavelund> i have forgotten how to look those up.
[13:55] <tsimpson> search for the id in the bantracker (web api)
[13:55] <lhavelund> that is vaguely helpful.
[13:55] <lhavelund> ._.
[13:57] <tsimpson> unless you mean @bansearch?
[13:57] <lhavelund> ideally i'd prefer to access it on the web api
[13:57] <lhavelund> but I've forgotten just about everything to do with it
[13:58] <tsimpson> then just search for the nick/mask
[13:58] <tsimpson> optionally in some channel, optionally by some op
[13:58] <lhavelund> where is the web interface located again?
[13:58] <tsimpson> type @btlogin
[13:58] <lhavelund> dang
[13:59] <lhavelund> i knew i'd forgotten something
[13:59] <lhavelund> no output
[13:59] <lhavelund> @btlogin
[13:59] <lhavelund> unless, of course, i need to do it in channel
[13:59] <mneptok> @login
[13:59] <lhavelund> @login
[13:59] <mneptok> that first
[13:59] <lhavelund> aha.
[14:01] <lhavelund> am I still in the db, tsimpson?
[14:01] <tsimpson> lhavelund: probably under your old nick
[14:02] <lhavelund> that is a possibility
[14:03] <tsimpson> I'll add your current cloak to the bot, so it knows you
[14:03] <MenZa> perfect, cheers
[14:03] <lhavelund> i didn't realise i hadn't done much operating since i nickchanged
[14:04] <tsimpson> see if you can @whoami
[14:05] <tsimpson> it should say menza
[14:05] <lhavelund> it does
[14:05] <lhavelund> :D
[14:06] <tsimpson> well that's my good deed for the day done :)
[14:06] <lhavelund> :D
[14:06] <lhavelund> appreciate it, tsimpson
[14:06] <lhavelund> how's things around here these days?
[14:06] <lhavelund> i see mneptok still lurks. some things never change.
[14:06] <lhavelund> Hi, RamchandraApte.
[14:06] <RamchandraApte> why did I get ...
[14:07] <lhavelund> I banned an alternative IP of yours the other night for attempted (and unsuccessful) trolling.
[14:07] <RamchandraApte> I didn't intend to troll
[14:07] <lhavelund> one moment.
[14:07] <lhavelund> i'm just finding the log.
[14:08] <lhavelund> also, flooding.
[14:08] <lhavelund> does "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" sound familiar?
[14:08] <RamchandraApte> yes
[14:08] <lhavelund> ok.
[14:08] <lhavelund> do you now understand why you were banned?
[14:08] <RamchandraApte> lhavelund: but why did I get kicked again now?
[14:08] <lhavelund> Because you're just connecting from a different IP, evading the ban (whether intentional or not).
[14:09] <lhavelund> Getting a new IP doesn't simply give you a clean slate.
[14:09] <RamchandraApte> I didn't do it intentionally
[14:09] <RamchandraApte> We off the modem in the night so ...
[14:09] <mneptok> karma follows like the wheel follows the foot of the ox.
[14:09] <RamchandraApte> How long is the kick?
[14:10] <lhavelund> Until you promise me you'll shape up and a) not flood the channel, and b) not bait users into arguing with you.
[14:10] <RamchandraApte> lhavelund: I'm not intenionally baiting users into arguing.
[14:10] <RamchandraApte> I thought it was just a discussion.
[14:10] <RamchandraApte> I won't flood the channel again
[14:10] <lhavelund> 2012-10-30T08:50:33 <RamchandraApte> linux is crap
[14:10] <lhavelund> 2012-10-30T08:50:55 <RamchandraApte> its a disorganised collection of projects patched (like band-aids) together by distros to make it workable
[14:10] <lhavelund> you're entitled to anopinoin, but that's baiting to me.
[14:10] <lhavelund> an opinion*
[14:11] <RamchandraApte> lhavelund: ok, I was a little over-emotional but that is, in a lesser form, my opinion.
[14:11] <RamchandraApte> s/little/
[14:11] <lhavelund> which is perfectly ok. but i suggest you present your thoughts a little more pragmatically.
[14:11] <RamchandraApte> lhavelund: ok.
[14:12] <lhavelund> either way. assuming you'll be nice, i can lift the ban :)
[14:12] <lhavelund> just keep it in mind for future reference.
[14:12] <RamchandraApte> lhavelund: remember that I am muted on #python-offtopic so think twice.
[14:12] <lhavelund> eh?
[14:12] <mneptok> RamchandraApte: coming to Linux-specific channels if that is your opinion is more than confusing to me
[14:12] <lhavelund> the #python* namespace has nothing to do with our channels or how we mod them.
[14:12] <RamchandraApte> lhavelund: just giving you background info
[14:12] <lhavelund> we have our policies, they have theirs.
[14:13] <lhavelund> so
[14:13] <lhavelund> you're asking me to reconsider removing your ban?
[14:13] <RamchandraApte> yes
[14:13] <lhavelund> ok, i won't remove the ban, then
[14:13] <lhavelund> have a good day.
[14:14] <RamchandraApte> you too :-)
[14:14] <lhavelund> if there's nothing else i can help you with, please part the channel. :)
[14:14] <lhavelund> *ahem*
[14:14] <RamchandraApte> can you please unkick me
[14:15] <lhavelund> unkick you?
[14:15] <RamchandraApte>  yes.
[14:15] <lhavelund> that's not technically possible
[14:16] <lhavelund> but let me get this straight
[14:16] <lhavelund> i say we can remove the ban if you agree to shape up. you ask me to reconsider, implying you're a troublesome user in the first place. i concede that, perhaps we should unban you.
[14:16] <lhavelund> let me try to explain the terminology
[14:16] <RamchandraApte> I just said you should think a bit more.
[14:17] <lhavelund> 1) a kick means you are removed from the channel. not barred from entering it. you can instantly re-join, UNLESS
[14:17] <RamchandraApte> I didn't mean to imply I was troublesome.
[14:17] <lhavelund> 2) you're banned. a ban disallows you from entering the channel.
[14:17] <lhavelund> ok, let's go back to square one, then.
[14:17] <lhavelund> we believe most of our users are happy to shape up if we talk to them first.
[14:17] <lhavelund> which is what we're doing with you now.
[14:17] <RamchandraApte>   
[14:18] <lhavelund> so, a simple question. if i allow you priviliges to re-enter the channel, will you contribute constructively and positively to the atmosphere of the channel, and not break any of our rules?
[14:18] <RamchandraApte> lhavelund: yes
[14:18] <lhavelund> right, good
[14:18] <lhavelund> one final request, then.
[14:18] <RamchandraApte> is the ubuntu code of conduct the rules?
[14:18] <lhavelund> please stop asking for help with your python projects in the -offtopic channel. there are python channels available, and they are both more relevant, and presumably more knowledgable of the issue.
[14:18] <lhavelund> !coc
[14:18] <lhavelund> !o4o
[14:19] <lhavelund> the code of conduct and additional rules apply in !o4o
[14:19] <lhavelund> the code of conduct is a document we ask all community members and developers to adhere to. in the interest of practicalities and avoiding drama in -offtopic, we have additional rules in place to keep it a safe and comfortable place for everyone.
[14:20] <RamchandraApte> lhavelund: I did sign it though I lost my signature.
[14:20] <lhavelund> signing it is not necessary.
[14:20] <lhavelund> !guidelines
[14:20] <lhavelund> there are additional guidelines there.
[14:20] <lhavelund> please take five minutes to read them, then return here.
[14:20] <RamchandraApte> OK thanks
[14:22] <RamchandraApte> done
[14:22] <lhavelund> you read 1959 words in less than two minutes.
[14:23] <lhavelund> try again.
[14:23] <RamchandraApte> I skimmed through it.
[14:23] <RamchandraApte> I read the main points of the Ubuntu code of conduct.
[14:23] <lhavelund> right.
[14:23] <lhavelund> either way. please behave accordingly in our channels, and there will be no more issues.
[14:24] <lhavelund> you are no longer banned, RamchandraApte.
[14:24] <lhavelund> feel free to re-enter the channel, and part this one.
[14:24] <lhavelund> have a good day.
[14:24] <RamchandraApte> OK bye
[14:24] <RamchandraApte> you too
[14:25] <lhavelund> i really haven't done one of those in far too long.
[14:25] <IdleOne> lhavelund: remove the original ban while you're at it :)
[14:25] <lhavelund> i suppose i should, yes
[14:25] <lhavelund> thanks, IdleOne
[14:25] <IdleOne> thank you.
[14:26] <lhavelund> sorted
[14:27] <tsimpson> lhavelund: by the way, there is #ubuntu-ops-team now too
[14:27] <IdleOne> supa sekrit channel
 noone4: don't dcc people randomly
[14:53] <bazhang> another complaint about him
[14:55]  * lhavelund hugs bazhang 
[14:55] <bazhang> got him in PM
[14:57] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu michealPW] (~michealpw@165.154.108.196): michealPW   constantly offtopic, warned repeatedly
[14:57] <bazhang> lhavelund, nice to see you back
[14:58] <lhavelund> bazhang: :) good to see you.
[14:59] <lhavelund> bazhang: i was never gone, just very inactive.
[15:14] <bazhang> even the floodbots are getting d c c spam from noone4
[15:39] <Tm_T> hi lhavelund
[15:40] <Tm_T> what, things change around here?
[16:41] <AlanBell> http://ubottu.com/ircc/2012/11/03/ban-management-changes/
[16:41] <AlanBell> ^^ changes :)
[16:41] <knome> c-c-c-changes
[16:41] <knome> hullo AlanBell :)
[16:41] <AlanBell> hi knome
[16:44] <bazhang> augh
[16:44] <bazhang> he just gave his teamviewer info on the open channel
[20:43] <jrib> ikonia: you sure he didn't mean he wouldn't mislead people anymore? Could read that both ways to be honest
[20:44] <ikonia> nope, not sure
[20:44] <ikonia> but fed up with these fools "it would be easier to uninstall binaries on arch than it would on ubuntu"
[20:44] <ikonia> so I don't see a loss
[20:45] <ikonia> sorry if that seems harsh