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MCR1Trevinho: Hi :) Time for some Compiz approvals ?11:13
popeyMCR1, I suspect he's recovering from UDS right now11:24
MCR1popey: I understand you all had a hard time, but I have to admit that I am quite disappointed about the commitment to Compiz, although it is the basis of the whole Ubuntu system :(11:26
popeysorry, i don't understand..11:26
MCR1popey: A lot of stuff is broken and Compiz is the basis for Unity, so fixes to Compiz should have most high, critical priority...11:27
popeymany do11:28
MCR1popey: More experienced GLES coders should be assigned to working on Compiz, not just Daniel...11:28
MCR1popey: He is overwhelmed with the workflow, especially since r3320 - the big GLES conversion of Compiz...11:29
popeywe have a lot of bugs, sure.11:29
MCR1The Linaro guys did not finish their job...11:29
MCR1popey: I am not only comlaining, I have made over 30 fixes to Compiz and Unity, but we need GLES experts for Compiz11:30
MCR1*complaining11:30
popeywe have limited resources as you know, and many bugs11:30
MCR1popey: Yeah, but Compiz is the basis of Unity, running it and Unity is your prestige project isn't it ?11:31
popeywe have a lot of things to work on, and have to carefully balance resources in order to meet our various priorities and projects11:33
popeycompiz isn't the only thing we're working on.11:33
MCR1popey: The problem seems to be that you are moving too fast forward without having the resources needed (sorry for the criticism)...11:34
MCR1popey: If you are bored ;) - https://code.launchpad.net/~compiz-team/compiz/0.9.9/+activereviews11:47
popeysorry MCR1 I'm not qualified to review those.11:49
MCR1popey: ok, no problem ;) Thx 4 the talk ;)11:49
popeynp11:49
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conscioususerbilal: ping14:10
conscioususercharles: ping14:28
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popeyconscioususer, most people are probably travelling back or recovering from uds14:54
conscioususerpopey: I guessed so... wouldn't hurt to try though :)14:54
popeyanything I can help with?14:55
popeyunlikely I know..14:55
conscioususeragain, wouldn't hurt to try :)14:56
conscioususerhold on, brb14:56
conscioususerpopey: still there?15:02
conscioususerpopey: it's a technical question, I was wondering why the menubar mnemonics are not working in my app15:02
popeyconscioususer, the menu accelerator keys?15:05
conscioususeryeah, pressing alt is not working15:06
popeyalt+key?15:06
conscioususerdoes nothing15:07
conscioususerI switched to the new GMenuModel-based framework for menubars, I suspect Unity has an incomplete implementation of it.15:08
popeysorry, I don't know :(15:08
conscioususerI should probably talk to someone who has been specifically working on the Unity appmenu, like Ryan or Ted15:09
conscioususerlarsu: You around? I needed to ask something 'bout the MM.15:09
larsuconscioususer, yep, what's up?15:11
conscioususerhi :)15:14
conscioususeris there a way to detect if the running MM is the old one or the new one?15:14
conscioususerI need that for backward compatibility... need to know whether I should use libindicate or libmessagingmenu15:14
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larsuconscioususer, sorry, I'm having problems with my wifi15:37
* larsu hopes it's working now15:37
larsuwhat was your question?15:37
conscioususerlarsu: hold on, lemme copy and paste15:37
conscioususerlarsu: is there a way to detect if the running MM is the old one or the new one?15:37
conscioususerlarsu: I need that for backward compatibility... need to know whether I should use libindicate or libmessagingmenu15:37
larsuconscioususer, hm, interesting15:40
larsuthere's no official way of doing that, no15:40
larsuconscioususer, you could try loading MessagingMenu and if that fails use libindicate15:40
larsu(this is python, right?)15:41
conscioususerlarsu: yeah, python. This is basically what I'm doing now15:41
larsuconscioususer, does it work?15:42
conscioususerapparently it does, though I'll have problems if a 12.04 user has libmessagingmenu installed... corner case, I admit15:43
larsuvery much so, it's not packaged for 12.0415:43
* larsu thinks messaging_menu_app_register should return a boolean15:44
conscioususerlarsu: well, sounds good enough for now, thanks15:45
larsuconscioususer, sorry, don't have a better way right now. changing the return value will break ABI15:45
conscioususerlarsu: no prob, it would be cool having the boolean but in python the currenty seems to be enough15:51
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DeluxoHello everyone17:19
DeluxoId like to tell that turing off VBlank, Framebuffer object, Vertex Buffer Object in CCSM>OpenGL17:20
Deluxocauses unity to increase its reaction dramatically17:20
Deluxosince this not a bug, i do not want to post it to launchpad as a bug17:21
Deluxowas my message gotten clearly?17:21
AlanBell!weekend17:33
ubot5It's a weekend. Often on weekends the paid developers and a lot of the community may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would or try again during the working week.17:33
AlanBellDeluxo: those things will speed up unity on some graphics cards, and slow it down on others17:35
AlanBellparticularly for newer cards those things should speed it up and use less resources17:36
AlanBellbut it is great that you have improved the performance on your kit :)17:36
Deluxois there anyway to autmate the settings on the first log in when ubuntu installed? This seems like something that should be addressed...17:39
AlanBelldunno, that might be worth filing a bug about17:41
AlanBellwould be cool if it did some self performance profiling to select good settings automatically17:41
Deluxoi did, at https://launchpad.net/utah17:41
Deluxoanyway im glad i figured out stuff for myself, wish i could be any help, but my programming skills are just a disgrace :D17:43
Deluxofarewell!17:43
PotentChilihow do i make my site work as a web app like pandora, gmail, etc?22:43

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