=== morphis|away is now known as morphis [11:13] Trevinho: Hi :) Time for some Compiz approvals ? [11:24] MCR1, I suspect he's recovering from UDS right now [11:26] popey: I understand you all had a hard time, but I have to admit that I am quite disappointed about the commitment to Compiz, although it is the basis of the whole Ubuntu system :( [11:26] sorry, i don't understand.. [11:27] popey: A lot of stuff is broken and Compiz is the basis for Unity, so fixes to Compiz should have most high, critical priority... [11:28] many do [11:28] popey: More experienced GLES coders should be assigned to working on Compiz, not just Daniel... [11:29] popey: He is overwhelmed with the workflow, especially since r3320 - the big GLES conversion of Compiz... [11:29] we have a lot of bugs, sure. [11:29] The Linaro guys did not finish their job... [11:30] popey: I am not only comlaining, I have made over 30 fixes to Compiz and Unity, but we need GLES experts for Compiz [11:30] *complaining [11:30] we have limited resources as you know, and many bugs [11:31] popey: Yeah, but Compiz is the basis of Unity, running it and Unity is your prestige project isn't it ? [11:33] we have a lot of things to work on, and have to carefully balance resources in order to meet our various priorities and projects [11:33] compiz isn't the only thing we're working on. [11:34] popey: The problem seems to be that you are moving too fast forward without having the resources needed (sorry for the criticism)... [11:47] popey: If you are bored ;) - https://code.launchpad.net/~compiz-team/compiz/0.9.9/+activereviews [11:49] sorry MCR1 I'm not qualified to review those. [11:49] popey: ok, no problem ;) Thx 4 the talk ;) [11:49] np === morphis is now known as morphis|away [14:10] bilal: ping [14:28] charles: ping === morphis|away is now known as morphis [14:54] conscioususer, most people are probably travelling back or recovering from uds [14:54] popey: I guessed so... wouldn't hurt to try though :) [14:55] anything I can help with? [14:55] unlikely I know.. [14:56] again, wouldn't hurt to try :) [14:56] hold on, brb [15:02] popey: still there? [15:02] popey: it's a technical question, I was wondering why the menubar mnemonics are not working in my app [15:05] conscioususer, the menu accelerator keys? [15:06] yeah, pressing alt is not working [15:06] alt+key? [15:07] does nothing [15:08] I switched to the new GMenuModel-based framework for menubars, I suspect Unity has an incomplete implementation of it. [15:08] sorry, I don't know :( [15:09] I should probably talk to someone who has been specifically working on the Unity appmenu, like Ryan or Ted [15:09] larsu: You around? I needed to ask something 'bout the MM. [15:11] conscioususer, yep, what's up? [15:14] hi :) [15:14] is there a way to detect if the running MM is the old one or the new one? [15:14] I need that for backward compatibility... need to know whether I should use libindicate or libmessagingmenu === morphis is now known as morphis|away [15:37] conscioususer, sorry, I'm having problems with my wifi [15:37] * larsu hopes it's working now [15:37] what was your question? [15:37] larsu: hold on, lemme copy and paste [15:37] larsu: is there a way to detect if the running MM is the old one or the new one? [15:37] larsu: I need that for backward compatibility... need to know whether I should use libindicate or libmessagingmenu [15:40] conscioususer, hm, interesting [15:40] there's no official way of doing that, no [15:40] conscioususer, you could try loading MessagingMenu and if that fails use libindicate [15:41] (this is python, right?) [15:41] larsu: yeah, python. This is basically what I'm doing now [15:42] conscioususer, does it work? [15:43] apparently it does, though I'll have problems if a 12.04 user has libmessagingmenu installed... corner case, I admit [15:43] very much so, it's not packaged for 12.04 [15:44] * larsu thinks messaging_menu_app_register should return a boolean [15:45] larsu: well, sounds good enough for now, thanks [15:45] conscioususer, sorry, don't have a better way right now. changing the return value will break ABI [15:51] larsu: no prob, it would be cool having the boolean but in python the currenty seems to be enough === morphis|away is now known as morphis === morphis is now known as morphis|away [17:19] Hello everyone [17:20] Id like to tell that turing off VBlank, Framebuffer object, Vertex Buffer Object in CCSM>OpenGL [17:20] causes unity to increase its reaction dramatically [17:21] since this not a bug, i do not want to post it to launchpad as a bug [17:21] was my message gotten clearly? [17:33] !weekend [17:33] It's a weekend. Often on weekends the paid developers and a lot of the community may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would or try again during the working week. [17:35] Deluxo: those things will speed up unity on some graphics cards, and slow it down on others [17:36] particularly for newer cards those things should speed it up and use less resources [17:36] but it is great that you have improved the performance on your kit :) [17:39] is there anyway to autmate the settings on the first log in when ubuntu installed? This seems like something that should be addressed... [17:41] dunno, that might be worth filing a bug about [17:41] would be cool if it did some self performance profiling to select good settings automatically [17:41] i did, at https://launchpad.net/utah [17:43] anyway im glad i figured out stuff for myself, wish i could be any help, but my programming skills are just a disgrace :D [17:43] farewell! [22:43] how do i make my site work as a web app like pandora, gmail, etc?