[11:13] <MCR1> Trevinho: Hi :) Time for some Compiz approvals ?
[11:24] <popey> MCR1, I suspect he's recovering from UDS right now
[11:26] <MCR1> popey: I understand you all had a hard time, but I have to admit that I am quite disappointed about the commitment to Compiz, although it is the basis of the whole Ubuntu system :(
[11:26] <popey> sorry, i don't understand..
[11:27] <MCR1> popey: A lot of stuff is broken and Compiz is the basis for Unity, so fixes to Compiz should have most high, critical priority...
[11:28] <popey> many do
[11:28] <MCR1> popey: More experienced GLES coders should be assigned to working on Compiz, not just Daniel...
[11:29] <MCR1> popey: He is overwhelmed with the workflow, especially since r3320 - the big GLES conversion of Compiz...
[11:29] <popey> we have a lot of bugs, sure.
[11:29] <MCR1> The Linaro guys did not finish their job...
[11:30] <MCR1> popey: I am not only comlaining, I have made over 30 fixes to Compiz and Unity, but we need GLES experts for Compiz
[11:30] <MCR1> *complaining
[11:30] <popey> we have limited resources as you know, and many bugs
[11:31] <MCR1> popey: Yeah, but Compiz is the basis of Unity, running it and Unity is your prestige project isn't it ?
[11:33] <popey> we have a lot of things to work on, and have to carefully balance resources in order to meet our various priorities and projects
[11:33] <popey> compiz isn't the only thing we're working on.
[11:34] <MCR1> popey: The problem seems to be that you are moving too fast forward without having the resources needed (sorry for the criticism)...
[11:47] <MCR1> popey: If you are bored ;) - https://code.launchpad.net/~compiz-team/compiz/0.9.9/+activereviews
[11:49] <popey> sorry MCR1 I'm not qualified to review those.
[11:49] <MCR1> popey: ok, no problem ;) Thx 4 the talk ;)
[11:49] <popey> np
[14:10] <conscioususer> bilal: ping
[14:28] <conscioususer> charles: ping
[14:54] <popey> conscioususer, most people are probably travelling back or recovering from uds
[14:54] <conscioususer> popey: I guessed so... wouldn't hurt to try though :)
[14:55] <popey> anything I can help with?
[14:55] <popey> unlikely I know..
[14:56] <conscioususer> again, wouldn't hurt to try :)
[14:56] <conscioususer> hold on, brb
[15:02] <conscioususer> popey: still there?
[15:02] <conscioususer> popey: it's a technical question, I was wondering why the menubar mnemonics are not working in my app
[15:05] <popey> conscioususer, the menu accelerator keys?
[15:06] <conscioususer> yeah, pressing alt is not working
[15:06] <popey> alt+key?
[15:07] <conscioususer> does nothing
[15:08] <conscioususer> I switched to the new GMenuModel-based framework for menubars, I suspect Unity has an incomplete implementation of it.
[15:08] <popey> sorry, I don't know :(
[15:09] <conscioususer> I should probably talk to someone who has been specifically working on the Unity appmenu, like Ryan or Ted
[15:09] <conscioususer> larsu: You around? I needed to ask something 'bout the MM.
[15:11] <larsu> conscioususer, yep, what's up?
[15:14] <conscioususer> hi :)
[15:14] <conscioususer> is there a way to detect if the running MM is the old one or the new one?
[15:14] <conscioususer> I need that for backward compatibility... need to know whether I should use libindicate or libmessagingmenu
[15:37] <larsu> conscioususer, sorry, I'm having problems with my wifi
[15:37]  * larsu hopes it's working now
[15:37] <larsu> what was your question?
[15:37] <conscioususer> larsu: hold on, lemme copy and paste
[15:37] <conscioususer> larsu: is there a way to detect if the running MM is the old one or the new one?
[15:37] <conscioususer> larsu: I need that for backward compatibility... need to know whether I should use libindicate or libmessagingmenu
[15:40] <larsu> conscioususer, hm, interesting
[15:40] <larsu> there's no official way of doing that, no
[15:40] <larsu> conscioususer, you could try loading MessagingMenu and if that fails use libindicate
[15:41] <larsu> (this is python, right?)
[15:41] <conscioususer> larsu: yeah, python. This is basically what I'm doing now
[15:42] <larsu> conscioususer, does it work?
[15:43] <conscioususer> apparently it does, though I'll have problems if a 12.04 user has libmessagingmenu installed... corner case, I admit
[15:43] <larsu> very much so, it's not packaged for 12.04
[15:44]  * larsu thinks messaging_menu_app_register should return a boolean
[15:45] <conscioususer> larsu: well, sounds good enough for now, thanks
[15:45] <larsu> conscioususer, sorry, don't have a better way right now. changing the return value will break ABI
[15:51] <conscioususer> larsu: no prob, it would be cool having the boolean but in python the currenty seems to be enough
[17:19] <Deluxo> Hello everyone
[17:20] <Deluxo> Id like to tell that turing off VBlank, Framebuffer object, Vertex Buffer Object in CCSM>OpenGL
[17:20] <Deluxo> causes unity to increase its reaction dramatically
[17:21] <Deluxo> since this not a bug, i do not want to post it to launchpad as a bug
[17:21] <Deluxo> was my message gotten clearly?
[17:33] <AlanBell> !weekend
[17:35] <AlanBell> Deluxo: those things will speed up unity on some graphics cards, and slow it down on others
[17:36] <AlanBell> particularly for newer cards those things should speed it up and use less resources
[17:36] <AlanBell> but it is great that you have improved the performance on your kit :)
[17:39] <Deluxo> is there anyway to autmate the settings on the first log in when ubuntu installed? This seems like something that should be addressed...
[17:41] <AlanBell> dunno, that might be worth filing a bug about
[17:41] <AlanBell> would be cool if it did some self performance profiling to select good settings automatically
[17:41] <Deluxo> i did, at https://launchpad.net/utah
[17:43] <Deluxo> anyway im glad i figured out stuff for myself, wish i could be any help, but my programming skills are just a disgrace :D
[17:43] <Deluxo> farewell!
[22:43] <PotentChili> how do i make my site work as a web app like pandora, gmail, etc?