=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [04:49] morning superfly and others [05:53] Maaz, are you awake [05:53] Well duh! I'm not a feeble human that sleeps half my life away [05:53] Maaz, coffee on [05:53] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [05:56] morning oom Kilos [05:57] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [05:58] Maaz, ty [05:58] You are welcome Kilos [05:58] hows the fly family [06:11] sleeping === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [06:34] ah hi Trixar_za [06:34] Hey Kilos [06:34] http://updates.io9.com/post/34832794793/our-asteroid-belt-is-unique-and-thats-why-life-may [06:43] Trixar_za, you believe we evolved from amoeba goodies? [06:44] um [06:44] those tiny things. i cant think of the word now [06:47] No, but think about it. We're either extremely lucky or there is something else. Life has to come from somewhere. [06:47] simple answer [06:48] from the Almighty [06:48] real powerful super computers up there to design things with [06:49] We needed an asteroid belt as far enough from the snow line to not hit us too much. We needed a gas giant like Jupiter formed at the right time to form the asteroid belt exactly like it is. We needed to be exactly the distance we are from the sun. [06:49] im hoping to get one fast enough to play all games [06:49] We're either improbably lucky or we had help. [06:50] But try telling a know-it-all atheist that [06:50] :P [06:51] lol\ [06:51] They still believe the universe always existed (dis-proven by science) and that all matter is dead and unchanging (yet again dis-proven by science) [06:51] sometimes one can laugh at the evolution theory [06:51] Atheist really does seem like the dumbest religion ever [06:52] as in we evolved from bugs to the ape stage then peeps [06:52] That too. Like most creationist, they totally misunderstand the theory of evolution [06:52] We didn't evolve from monkeys, we evolved from a common ancestor [06:52] but how come there are still apes left then [06:53] They went one route and we went another. [06:53] the only evolving i believe in is that peeps that left here for europe are all now pink peeps that cant handle the sun [06:54] Actually race is a quark. We can't explain it with evolution [06:54] :P [06:54] and of course linuxs evolving [06:55] Because think about it: Eskimos [06:55] evolution is forward progression [06:55] so ms is going the wrong way [06:55] ya they funny peeps them ice dwellers [06:55] They have lived in cold climates for thousands of years, yet they still don't look white. Hence race has nothing to do with climate. [06:56] unlike some South African History books would have you believe [06:56] what* [06:56] books are only written by peeps that think they know it all [06:57] Also most primates without fur has dark black skin [06:57] :P [06:57] theory is often misleading [06:57] like many years ago one was told butter is bad for you use marge [06:58] No, theory is proven - to some extent. It's been tested over and over the last 100 years [06:58] polyunsaturated stuff or something [06:58] Most people confuse the word theory with hypnosis [06:58] er [06:58] Hypothesis* [06:58] a while back i saw one saying eat butter marge is bad for you [06:59] thats why i like this channel. one doesnt get mislead all the time [06:59] That's not a theory though, that's just what testing told them at the time [07:00] They re-evaluate things over the years, so opinion change [07:00] We used to think opiates were good for you too [07:00] lol [07:00] and antibiotics [07:00] but without them we gonna be kinda sick [07:01] but they destroy the flora goodies inna tummy [07:01] so gotta eat yoghurt with live cultures to recover [07:03] i fixed that /_storage partition [07:03] lol [07:03] or just take a pro-biotic [07:03] :P [07:04] ya probiotics do same job as yoghurt [07:04] the fly and pro will fight me again [07:04] I tend to forget to get them [07:04] So yeah, after the anti-biotics kill everything, I suffere a bit [07:04] suffer* [07:05] fixed all partitions by installing from scratch and naming them as i saw fit [07:05] Great way to clean the colon though [07:05] lol [07:05] drink black forest tea to clean out [07:05] naturally [07:07] i like using herbal goodies where possible [07:07] rooibos tea another great discovery. they keep finding more things it works for [07:08] I love rooibos [07:08] very healthy [07:08] Had to originally get used to the taste, but now I prefer it over normal tea or coffee [07:09] i forget where you are, keep thinking you in the west of sa [07:10] something there keeps bugging head. like prieska upington and i never been there [07:12] We have a place called prieska? [07:12] maybe i got the spelling a bit wrong [07:13] its near south west [07:13] Maaz, where is prieska [07:13] Kilos: Not a clue, sorry [07:16] Even Maaz doesn't know [07:17] ya south east of upington [07:17] just looked map [07:17] on the upington de aar road [07:18] the bot be stupid today [07:19] Nah, it just has the standard South African education [07:19] We're just lucky it didn't drop out of school early [07:19] lol [07:19] or strike and burn it down [07:20] Oh, it's already done that [07:20] What do you think happened to the other bots? [07:20] lol [07:20] where are you? [07:38] Brackenfell in the Western Cape [07:38] ah hi Vince-0 [07:43] Haai [07:50] morning all [07:50] hey magespawn [07:50] hey Kilos [07:53] whats up this morning? [07:53] nothing new magespawn [07:53] as yet [07:57] doing a release upgrade for the main pc in the shop [07:58] to 12.10? [07:58] what specs main tv? [07:58] i think so but this is 9.10 so might have to do 2 steps [07:58] oh my [07:59] then lotsa steps [07:59] was xp [07:59] lol [07:59] why not install 12.04 clean [07:59] upgrades gonna take long [08:00] something wrong with my discs or images, does not install from them [08:00] main pc i mean [08:00] oh my [08:00] cant you put onna stick? [08:00] single core 2.8 with a gig of ram, two hard drives 1 20 gig 1 80 gig [08:00] tried that same problem [08:01] oh my [08:01] thats same as pc i got from nuvo [08:01] runs 12.04 well [08:01] bit slow but ok [08:01] been rebuilt from bits and pieces [08:02] i might stop there [08:02] at 12.04 [08:02] yeah its good for 5 years [08:02] says the upgrade download will take about 1 hour 6min [08:02] i love building up pcs that way [08:03] nice to see something you have put together come to life [08:03] ya but 9.10 t0 10.04 then 10.10 11.04 11.10 12.04 [08:03] yes i agree [08:04] you can skip the .04 to go from one long term to the next [08:05] lts's were 04s methinks [08:05] as in 10.04 12.04 [08:05] yes i think so [08:06] busy installing 12.04 to a 16 gig flash drive to boot computers that need data recovery [08:06] ah [08:06] or do not have a hard drive [08:07] what do you do with the recovered files allhaving numbers [08:07] i sukkelled with that [08:09] store them on another drive then go through them one by one depending on the person who owns the drive [08:09] lol massive job hey [08:09] cant charge per hour [08:09] you'll get rich too quick [08:10] hey you work with the hluhluwe game reserve guys [08:10] they had a mechanic there cb buddy [08:11] rhinoman [08:11] sometimes yes [08:11] will try member his name [08:11] somebody you knew? [08:11] ya [08:11] he used to get us game cheap when they culled [08:12] getting a steady 121kbs on the download [08:12] thats slow [08:12] adsl? [08:12] compared to? [08:12] yes [08:12] my 8ta runs at around 256kB/s [08:13] sometimes up to 360 [08:13] steady? [08:13] ya doesnt go under 220 [08:13] you see this is very steady, and there is a difference between connection and download [08:14] i only see speeds when downloading [08:14] i am also streaming the radio [08:14] ah [08:14] 1 meg line too [08:14] i do one thing at a time [08:15] is i stop the radio it does not change the spped that much [08:15] i wonder how it works with telkom. they advertise their adsl with a free 8ta 3g modem [08:15] speed even [08:16] fone and ask them then you can be online dark times too [08:16] miss you when you away [08:17] ty Kilos [08:17] my adsl comes through mweb though [08:17] ty for not being away often [08:17] Wifi network plans are progressing [08:17] contract to mweb? [08:18] no just month to month [08:18] then just check out the telkom offers [08:18] i am not getting caught like that again [08:19] any savings can go towards fish [08:19] ya contracts are bad news [08:26] Well, I must be bored [08:26] lol why [08:26] I've been looking for Novel Writing software [08:27] That are under 2MB to download and doesn't use a huge back-end like Java [08:27] Found a few good ones [08:33] Focuswriter, Plume Creator and Kabikaboo [08:35] hi psydroid [08:35] hi Kilos [08:35] hi Trixar_za [08:36] Hey psydroid [08:38] * magespawn goes to google that [08:40] has anyone ever used Plex? [08:41] hey psydroid [08:58] hi magespawn [08:59] thought everyone had dropped their pc and run away for a moment there lol [08:59] lol [09:09] Sjoe maar julle praat baie vanoggend [09:09] Oo 'n mede Brakkie [09:11] more bakuman gaan dit goed? [09:12] goed goed oom Kilos [09:12] mooi [09:28] 17 mins Kilos [09:29] then you at which release magespawn ? [09:29] well this one is 9.10 [09:29] ouch [09:29] so which ever is next [09:29] you gonna be all day [09:30] the cds you made, have you tried them on another pc? [09:30] yup i want to use this machine to run my point of sale [09:30] are the downloaded iso's actually faulty [09:30] yes and they work there, so probable actually the cd drive [09:31] or they way you burned to cd [09:31] the checksum says not [09:31] maybe [09:31] swop cd man [09:31] you gonna be forever doing upgrades [09:32] i am patient [09:32] lol [09:32] i dont think so many upgrades will be as trouble free as a clean install [09:34] e hoe gaan dit met oom Kilos? [09:34] goed dankie bakuman [09:35] gebruik unity en kubuntu 12.04 [09:35] ahh wel this is one way to find out [09:35] there was no modfications doen to the original install [09:35] if its your main machine it must be stable and trouble free [09:36] paypoint? [09:36] yes and if i can the server for the internet cafe software too [09:37] whew [09:37] no man get a cd for there and do it right [09:37] but that will depend on the load [09:38] one of my pet peaves - dirty keyboards [09:38] the coupla upgrades i did were never as good as a clean install [09:38] and they so hard to clean the later ones [09:39] my shop machines are fine that way [09:39] if you try get key off to clean always something breaks [09:39] i think it depends on how much you change [09:39] pc keyboard i just take apart [09:39] how you get the keys off? [09:40] pc or laptop? [09:40] both [09:40] actually lappy the bad one [09:41] pc undo the screws at the back and the whole thing comes apart [09:41] with a few laptops it is two screws to undo and remove it from the case [09:41] i now lie on my back in the sun and clean keys with wet cloth then blow everything away with compressed air [09:43] i think thats where you wanna live on top floor of 40 story block of flats to get less dust [09:44] dust bad here [09:44] 1 min 31s [09:44] lol [09:45] or in a bunker like the president [09:45] been more than an hour [09:45] lol [09:45] always is [09:45] 2 hours 45 so far [09:46] and another 6 releases to go [09:46] whew [09:46] done with the download [09:46] 1 . 45 [09:46] ok whats next [09:47] it will tell you [09:47] running the upgrade [09:48] unpacking [09:49] hi magtie [09:49] hi Kilos [09:49] magespawn, you gonna upgrade each one too? [09:50] each one what Kilos? [09:50] release [09:50] like update/upgrade [09:50] only if I have to [09:51] Kilos, you want to look at my graphs of is your cap too little? [09:51] i think it should just go past them [09:51] how big bakuman [09:51] don't know no tooo big [09:52] http://ender.no-ip.org/usage/ [09:52] ok give link [09:52] lol [09:53] 69 meg on a cell? [09:53] whew [09:54] haha it is a smartphone. so apps + youtube [09:57] ah [09:58] lots of other graphs @ ender.no-ip.org . took a while to get it all working [09:58] learnt a bit of php and had to figure out rrdtool [09:58] why you keeping that info [09:58] how are you doing it bakuman? [09:58] or monitoring it [09:59] Kilos, i what to see where all my cap is going, and if telkom is cheating me [09:59] lol [09:59] magespawn, firewall rules on my router, and then post it witj wget to my server which does the graphing [09:59] cool [10:00] what software/program does the graphing? [10:00] i'm busy writing my whole network setup on my blog, so you will be able to see all the details in a few weeks :D [10:00] magespawn, rrdtool [10:01] rrdtool is used by programs like mrtg and munin as well [10:05] post the link when you done [10:09] will do. have 2 post allready, but non of the really interesting stuff yet: blog.jedrivisser.com [10:13] morning [10:13] more Squirm [10:16] hi Squirm [10:16] môre [10:16] does he speak the taal too [10:17] oh ya van der swanepoel [10:17] waar het jy 'van der' [10:17] haha [10:17] haha [10:18] en ek kan nie praat 'taal' nie [10:18] hows things squirmy? [10:18] good. seem to have slept my hangover off :) [10:18] Evening Squirm [10:19] Er [10:19] Wait no [10:19] It's afternoon [10:19] morning Trixar_za [10:19] oh [10:19] Afternoon Squirm [10:19] afternoon Trixar_za [10:19] woke up like 30min ago [10:19] Trixar_za, jy in brackenfell? [10:19] bakuman: yes [10:19] * Squirm looks at bakuman [10:19] cool, same [10:19] stalker! [10:20] * bakuman glares at Squirm, shhhht [10:20] lol [10:20] I'm in Protea Heights [10:20] :P [10:20] I, for some reason, read that as Pretoria [10:21] don't ask :/ [10:21] okay Kilos the 16gig flash is now running 12.04 [10:22] yay what did you do? [10:22] that laptop does not have a hard drive so used a cd and installed it to the flash drive\ [10:23] Squirm: So... when you sending those series :P [10:24] ah [10:24] Trixar_za: crap [10:24] they're all on disk [10:25] just need to actually send the bloody things :/ [10:25] Monday it will be! [10:25] Unless you forget again [10:25] :P [10:26] I haven't forgotten [10:26] but I'm like you [10:26] and you know how lazy you can get [10:27] be back in 10. need to try and track down my laundry [10:27] Trixar_za, het jy al aan CTWUG try connect? [10:27] CTWUG? [10:28] http://www.ctwug.za.net/content.php?s=4a14b91be81e5fa7bc3ade20e5ace69a [10:28] I get all my series there [10:29] Free wireless [10:30] yea with many people on, but you need to buy the router and antenna. And then convince someone to let you connect to them. but shouldn't be too hard in Protea Heights [10:32] Can I use it for browsing the internet? ;P [10:33] nope [10:33] Damn [10:33] :P [10:35] ok, going to tygervallei [10:35] * bakuman out [10:38] Later bakuman - Now I have something to play with. Just need to get router and antenna... :P [10:42] Nice, you can game off it too [10:42] wow [10:45] Maaz tell Bakuman What device controls the ip address' on his network? [10:45] magespawn: Okay, I'll tell bakuman on freenode [10:47] Trixar_za: it's one very big lan [10:47] the PTAWUG is the biggest [10:47] Yeah, looks like it [10:48] I don't think the Durban one is big [10:49] 10min till lucnh [10:49] I'm starving [11:23] bbl [11:23] k [11:23] hi SmilyBorg_h [11:29] better [11:48] why would i be getting HUBBARD.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU as something im connected to [11:48] what in ubuntu uses that [11:48] got xchat and pidgin mxit open only [11:49] http://www.club.cc.cmu.edu/ [11:50] hrm [11:50] sup [11:52] hey Symmetria you forgot us? [11:56] heh nah [11:56] been busy [11:56] can ya take a look at a draft presentationf or me [11:56] lol ok [11:56] for me [11:56] and give me comments [11:57] ok [11:57] will msg you url :) [11:57] k [12:00] Kilos lemme knwo what you think :) [12:01] will do. lots to read [12:02] Kilos what software can you remember for data recovery? [12:02] testdisk [12:02] photorec [12:02] got [12:02] anyone else wanna take a look at a networking preso so I can get as much feedback as possible? lol, that presentation HAS to go well [12:02]