[04:49] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:53] <Kilos> Maaz, are you awake
[05:53] <Maaz> Well duh! I'm not a feeble human that sleeps half my life away
[05:53] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[05:53]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[05:56] <superfly> morning oom Kilos 
[05:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[05:58] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[05:58] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[05:58] <Kilos> hows the fly family
[06:11] <superfly> sleeping
[06:34] <Kilos> ah hi Trixar_za 
[06:34] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[06:34] <Trixar_za> http://updates.io9.com/post/34832794793/our-asteroid-belt-is-unique-and-thats-why-life-may
[06:43] <Kilos> Trixar_za, you believe we evolved from amoeba goodies?
[06:44] <Kilos> um
[06:44] <Kilos> those tiny things. i cant think of the word now
[06:47] <Trixar_za> No, but think about it. We're either extremely lucky or there is something else. Life has to come from somewhere.
[06:47] <Kilos> simple answer
[06:48] <Kilos> from the Almighty
[06:48] <Kilos> real powerful super computers up there to design things with
[06:49] <Trixar_za> We needed an asteroid belt as far enough from the snow line to not hit us too much. We needed a gas giant like Jupiter formed at the right time to form the asteroid belt exactly like it is. We needed to be exactly the distance we are from the sun.
[06:49] <Kilos> im hoping to get one fast enough to play all games
[06:49] <Trixar_za> We're either improbably lucky or we had help.
[06:50] <Trixar_za> But try telling a know-it-all atheist that
[06:50] <Trixar_za> :P
[06:51] <Kilos> lol\
[06:51] <Trixar_za> They still believe the universe always existed (dis-proven by science) and that all matter is dead and unchanging (yet again dis-proven by science)
[06:51] <Kilos> sometimes one can laugh at the evolution theory
[06:51] <Trixar_za> Atheist really does seem like the dumbest religion ever
[06:52] <Kilos> as in we evolved from bugs to the ape stage then peeps
[06:52] <Trixar_za> That too. Like most creationist, they totally misunderstand the theory of evolution
[06:52] <Trixar_za> We didn't evolve from monkeys, we evolved from a common ancestor
[06:52] <Kilos> but how come there are still apes left then
[06:53] <Trixar_za> They went one route and we went another.
[06:53] <Kilos> the only evolving i believe in is that peeps that left here for europe are all now pink peeps that cant handle the sun
[06:54] <Trixar_za> Actually race is a quark. We can't explain it with evolution
[06:54] <Trixar_za> :P
[06:54] <Kilos> and of course linuxs evolving
[06:55] <Trixar_za> Because think about it: Eskimos
[06:55] <Kilos> evolution is forward progression
[06:55] <Kilos> so ms is going the wrong way
[06:55] <Kilos> ya they funny peeps them ice dwellers
[06:55] <Trixar_za> They have lived in cold climates for thousands of years, yet they still don't look white. Hence race has nothing to do with climate.
[06:56] <Trixar_za> unlike some South African History books would have you believe
[06:56] <Trixar_za> what*
[06:56] <Kilos> books are only written by peeps that think they know it all
[06:57] <Trixar_za> Also most primates without fur has dark black skin
[06:57] <Trixar_za> :P
[06:57] <Kilos> theory is often misleading
[06:57] <Kilos> like many years ago one was told butter is bad for you use marge
[06:58] <Trixar_za> No, theory is proven - to some extent. It's been tested over and over the last 100 years
[06:58] <Kilos> polyunsaturated stuff or something
[06:58] <Trixar_za> Most people confuse the word theory with hypnosis
[06:58] <Trixar_za> er
[06:58] <Trixar_za> Hypothesis*
[06:58] <Kilos> a while back i saw one saying eat butter marge is bad for you
[06:59] <Kilos> thats why i like this channel. one doesnt get mislead all the time
[06:59] <Trixar_za> That's not a theory though, that's just what testing told them at the time
[07:00] <Trixar_za> They re-evaluate things over the years, so opinion change
[07:00] <Trixar_za> We used to think opiates were good for you too
[07:00] <Kilos> lol
[07:00] <Kilos> and antibiotics
[07:00] <Kilos> but without them we gonna be kinda sick
[07:01] <Kilos> but they destroy the flora goodies inna tummy
[07:01] <Kilos> so gotta eat yoghurt with live cultures to recover
[07:03] <Kilos> i fixed that /_storage partition
[07:03] <Kilos> lol
[07:03] <Trixar_za> or just take a pro-biotic
[07:03] <Trixar_za> :P
[07:04] <Kilos> ya probiotics do same job as yoghurt
[07:04] <Kilos> the fly and pro will fight me again
[07:04] <Trixar_za> I tend to forget to get them
[07:04] <Trixar_za> So yeah, after the anti-biotics kill everything, I suffere a bit
[07:04] <Trixar_za> suffer*
[07:05] <Kilos> fixed all partitions by installing from scratch and naming them as i saw fit
[07:05] <Trixar_za> Great way to clean the colon though
[07:05] <Kilos> lol
[07:05] <Kilos> drink black forest tea to clean out
[07:05] <Kilos> naturally
[07:07] <Kilos> i like using herbal goodies where possible
[07:07] <Kilos> rooibos tea another great discovery. they keep finding more things it works for
[07:08] <Trixar_za> I love rooibos
[07:08] <Kilos> very healthy
[07:08] <Trixar_za> Had to originally get used to the taste, but now I prefer it over normal tea or coffee
[07:09] <Kilos> i forget where you are, keep thinking you in the west of sa
[07:10] <Kilos> something there keeps bugging head. like prieska upington and i never been there
[07:12] <Trixar_za> We have a place called prieska?
[07:12] <Kilos> maybe i got the spelling a bit wrong
[07:13] <Kilos> its near south west
[07:13] <Kilos> Maaz, where is prieska
[07:13] <Maaz> Kilos: Not a clue, sorry
[07:16] <Trixar_za> Even Maaz doesn't know
[07:17] <Kilos> ya south east of upington
[07:17] <Kilos> just looked map
[07:17] <Kilos> on the upington de aar road
[07:18] <Kilos> the bot be stupid today
[07:19] <Trixar_za> Nah, it just has the standard South African education
[07:19] <Trixar_za> We're just lucky it didn't drop out of school early
[07:19] <Kilos> lol
[07:19] <Kilos> or strike and burn it down
[07:20] <Trixar_za> Oh, it's already done that
[07:20] <Trixar_za> What do you think happened to the other bots?
[07:20] <Kilos> lol
[07:20] <Kilos> where are you?
[07:38] <Trixar_za> Brackenfell in the Western Cape
[07:38] <Kilos> ah hi Vince-0 
[07:43] <Vince-0> Haai
[07:50] <magespawn> morning all
[07:50] <Kilos> hey magespawn 
[07:50] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[07:53] <magespawn> whats up this morning?
[07:53] <Kilos> nothing new magespawn 
[07:53] <Kilos> as yet
[07:57] <magespawn> doing a release upgrade for the main pc in the shop
[07:58] <Kilos> to 12.10?
[07:58] <Kilos> what specs main tv?
[07:58] <magespawn> i think so but this is 9.10 so might have to do 2 steps
[07:58] <Kilos> oh my
[07:59] <Kilos> then lotsa steps
[07:59] <magespawn> was xp
[07:59] <Kilos> lol
[07:59] <Kilos> why not install 12.04 clean
[07:59] <Kilos> upgrades gonna take long
[08:00] <magespawn> something wrong with my discs or images, does not install from them
[08:00] <Kilos> main pc i mean
[08:00] <Kilos> oh my
[08:00] <Kilos> cant you put onna stick?
[08:00] <magespawn> single core 2.8 with a gig of ram, two hard drives 1 20 gig 1 80 gig
[08:00] <magespawn> tried that same problem
[08:01] <Kilos> oh my
[08:01] <Kilos> thats same as pc i got from nuvo
[08:01] <Kilos> runs 12.04 well
[08:01] <Kilos> bit slow but ok
[08:01] <magespawn> been rebuilt from bits and pieces
[08:02] <magespawn> i might stop there
[08:02] <magespawn> at 12.04
[08:02] <Kilos> yeah its good for 5 years
[08:02] <magespawn> says the upgrade download will take about 1 hour 6min
[08:02] <Kilos> i love building up pcs that way
[08:03] <magespawn> nice to see something you have put together come to life
[08:03] <Kilos> ya but 9.10 t0 10.04 then 10.10 11.04 11.10 12.04
[08:03] <Kilos> yes i agree
[08:04] <magespawn> you can skip the .04 to go from one long term to the next
[08:05] <Kilos> lts's were 04s methinks
[08:05] <Kilos> as in 10.04 12.04
[08:05] <magespawn> yes i think so
[08:06] <magespawn> busy installing 12.04 to a 16 gig flash drive to boot computers that need data recovery
[08:06] <Kilos> ah
[08:06] <magespawn> or do not have a hard drive
[08:07] <Kilos> what do you do with the recovered files allhaving numbers
[08:07] <Kilos> i sukkelled with that
[08:09] <magespawn> store them on another drive then go through them one by one depending on the person who owns the drive
[08:09] <Kilos> lol massive job hey
[08:09] <Kilos> cant charge per hour
[08:09] <Kilos> you'll get rich too quick
[08:10] <Kilos> hey you work with the hluhluwe game reserve guys
[08:10] <Kilos> they had a mechanic there cb buddy
[08:11] <Kilos> rhinoman
[08:11] <magespawn> sometimes yes
[08:11] <Kilos> will try member his name
[08:11] <magespawn> somebody you knew?
[08:11] <Kilos> ya
[08:11] <Kilos> he used to get us game cheap when they culled
[08:12] <magespawn> getting a steady 121kbs on the download
[08:12] <Kilos> thats slow
[08:12] <Kilos> adsl?
[08:12] <magespawn> compared to?
[08:12] <magespawn>  yes
[08:12] <Kilos> my 8ta runs at around 256kB/s
[08:13] <Kilos> sometimes up to 360
[08:13] <magespawn> steady? 
[08:13] <Kilos> ya doesnt go under 220
[08:13] <magespawn> you see this is very steady, and there is a difference between connection and download
[08:14] <Kilos> i only see speeds when downloading
[08:14] <magespawn> i am also streaming the radio
[08:14] <Kilos> ah
[08:14] <magespawn> 1 meg line too
[08:14] <Kilos> i do one thing at a time
[08:15] <magespawn> is i stop the radio it does not change the spped that much
[08:15] <Kilos> i wonder how it works with telkom. they advertise their adsl with a free 8ta 3g modem
[08:15] <magespawn> speed even
[08:16] <Kilos> fone and ask them then you can be online dark times too
[08:16] <Kilos> miss you when you away
[08:17] <magespawn> ty Kilos
[08:17] <magespawn> my adsl comes through mweb though
[08:17] <Kilos> ty for not being away often
[08:17] <magespawn> Wifi network plans are progressing
[08:17] <Kilos> contract to mweb?
[08:18] <magespawn> no just month to month
[08:18] <Kilos> then just check out the telkom offers
[08:18] <magespawn> i am not getting caught like that again
[08:19] <Kilos> any savings can go towards fish
[08:19] <Kilos> ya contracts are bad news
[08:26] <Trixar_za> Well, I must be bored
[08:26] <Kilos> lol why
[08:26] <Trixar_za> I've been looking for Novel Writing software
[08:27] <Trixar_za> That are under 2MB to download and doesn't use a huge back-end like Java
[08:27] <Trixar_za> Found a few good ones
[08:33] <Trixar_za> Focuswriter, Plume Creator and Kabikaboo
[08:35] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[08:35] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[08:35] <psydroid> hi Trixar_za
[08:36] <Trixar_za> Hey psydroid
[08:38]  * magespawn goes to google that
[08:40] <magespawn> has anyone ever used Plex?
[08:41] <magespawn> hey psydroid
[08:58] <psydroid> hi magespawn
[08:59] <magespawn> thought everyone had dropped their pc and run away for a moment there lol
[08:59] <Kilos> lol
[09:09] <bakuman> Sjoe maar julle praat baie vanoggend
[09:09] <bakuman> Oo 'n mede Brakkie
[09:11] <Kilos> more bakuman gaan dit goed?
[09:12] <bakuman> goed goed oom Kilos 
[09:12] <Kilos> mooi
[09:28] <magespawn> 17 mins Kilos
[09:29] <Kilos> then you at which release magespawn ?
[09:29] <magespawn> well this one is 9.10
[09:29] <Kilos> ouch
[09:29] <magespawn> so which ever is next
[09:29] <Kilos> you gonna be all day
[09:30] <Kilos> the cds you made, have you tried them on another pc?
[09:30] <magespawn> yup i want to use this machine to run my point of sale
[09:30] <Kilos> are the downloaded iso's actually faulty
[09:30] <magespawn> yes and they work there, so probable actually the cd drive
[09:31] <Kilos> or they way you burned to cd
[09:31] <magespawn> the checksum says not
[09:31] <magespawn> maybe
[09:31] <Kilos> swop cd man
[09:31] <Kilos> you gonna be forever doing upgrades
[09:32] <magespawn> i am patient
[09:32] <Kilos> lol
[09:32] <Kilos> i dont think so many upgrades will be as trouble free as a clean install
[09:34] <bakuman> e hoe gaan dit met oom Kilos?
[09:34] <Kilos> goed dankie bakuman 
[09:35] <Kilos> gebruik unity en kubuntu 12.04
[09:35] <magespawn> ahh wel this is one way to find out
[09:35] <magespawn> there was no modfications doen to the original install
[09:35] <Kilos> if its your main machine it must be stable and trouble free
[09:36] <Kilos> paypoint?
[09:36] <magespawn> yes and if i can the server for the internet cafe software too
[09:37] <Kilos> whew
[09:37] <Kilos> no man get a cd for there and do it right
[09:37] <magespawn> but that will depend on the load 
[09:38] <magespawn> one of my pet peaves - dirty keyboards
[09:38] <Kilos> the coupla upgrades i did were never as good as a clean install
[09:38] <Kilos> and they so hard to clean the later ones
[09:39] <magespawn> my shop machines are fine that way
[09:39] <Kilos> if you try get key off to clean always something breaks
[09:39] <magespawn> i think it depends on how much you change
[09:39] <magespawn> pc keyboard i just take apart
[09:39] <Kilos> how you get the keys off?
[09:40] <magespawn> pc or laptop?
[09:40] <Kilos> both
[09:40] <Kilos> actually lappy the bad one
[09:41] <magespawn> pc undo the screws at the back and the whole thing comes apart
[09:41] <magespawn> with a few laptops it is two screws to undo and remove it from the case
[09:41] <Kilos> i now lie on my back in the sun and clean keys with wet cloth then blow everything away with compressed air
[09:43] <Kilos> i think thats where you wanna live on top floor of 40 story block of flats to get less dust
[09:44] <Kilos> dust bad here
[09:44] <magespawn> 1 min 31s
[09:44] <Kilos> lol
[09:45] <magespawn> or in a bunker like the president
[09:45] <Kilos> been more than an hour
[09:45] <Kilos> lol
[09:45] <magespawn> always is
[09:45] <Kilos> 2 hours 45 so far
[09:46] <Kilos> and another 6 releases to go
[09:46] <Kilos> whew
[09:46] <magespawn> done with the download
[09:46] <Kilos> 1 . 45
[09:46] <Kilos> ok whats next
[09:47] <Kilos> it will tell you
[09:47] <magespawn> running the upgrade
[09:48] <magespawn> unpacking
[09:49] <Kilos> hi magtie 
[09:49] <magtie> hi Kilos
[09:49] <Kilos> magespawn, you gonna upgrade each one too?
[09:50] <magespawn> each one what Kilos?
[09:50] <Kilos> release
[09:50] <Kilos> like update/upgrade
[09:50] <magespawn> only if I have to
[09:51] <bakuman> Kilos, you want to look at my graphs of is your cap too little?
[09:51] <Kilos> i think it should just go past them
[09:51] <Kilos> how big bakuman 
[09:51] <bakuman> don't know no tooo big
[09:52] <bakuman> http://ender.no-ip.org/usage/
[09:52] <Kilos> ok give link
[09:52] <Kilos> lol
[09:53] <Kilos> 69 meg on a cell?
[09:53] <Kilos> whew
[09:54] <bakuman> haha it is a smartphone. so apps + youtube
[09:57] <Kilos> ah
[09:58] <bakuman> lots of other graphs @ ender.no-ip.org . took a while to get it all working
[09:58] <bakuman> learnt a bit of php and had to figure out rrdtool
[09:58] <Kilos> why you keeping that info
[09:58] <magespawn> how are you doing it bakuman?
[09:58] <Kilos> or monitoring it 
[09:59] <bakuman> Kilos, i what to see where all my cap is going, and if telkom is cheating me
[09:59] <Kilos> lol
[09:59] <bakuman> magespawn, firewall rules on my router, and then post it witj wget to my server which does the graphing
[09:59] <magespawn> cool
[10:00] <magespawn> what software/program does the graphing?
[10:00] <bakuman> i'm busy writing my whole network setup on my blog, so you will be able to see all the details in a few weeks :D
[10:00] <bakuman> magespawn, rrdtool
[10:01] <bakuman> rrdtool is used by programs like mrtg and munin as well
[10:05] <magespawn> post the link when you done
[10:09] <bakuman> will do. have 2 post allready, but non of the really interesting stuff yet: blog.jedrivisser.com
[10:13] <Squirm> morning
[10:13] <bakuman> more Squirm 
[10:16] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[10:16] <Kilos> môre
[10:16] <Kilos> does he speak the taal too
[10:17] <Kilos> oh ya van der swanepoel
[10:17] <Squirm> waar het jy 'van der'
[10:17] <Kilos> haha
[10:17] <bakuman> haha
[10:18] <Squirm> en ek kan nie praat 'taal' nie
[10:18] <Kilos> hows things squirmy?
[10:18] <Squirm> good. seem to have slept my hangover off :)
[10:18] <Trixar_za> Evening Squirm
[10:19] <Trixar_za> Er
[10:19] <Trixar_za> Wait no
[10:19] <Trixar_za> It's afternoon
[10:19] <Squirm> morning Trixar_za 
[10:19] <Squirm> oh
[10:19] <Trixar_za> Afternoon Squirm
[10:19] <Squirm> afternoon Trixar_za 
[10:19] <Squirm> woke up like 30min ago
[10:19] <bakuman> Trixar_za, jy in brackenfell?
[10:19] <Trixar_za> bakuman: yes
[10:19]  * Squirm looks at bakuman
[10:19] <bakuman> cool, same
[10:19] <Squirm> stalker!
[10:20]  * bakuman glares at Squirm, shhhht
[10:20] <Trixar_za> lol
[10:20] <Trixar_za> I'm in Protea Heights
[10:20] <Trixar_za> :P
[10:20] <Squirm> I, for some reason, read that as Pretoria
[10:21] <Squirm> don't ask :/
[10:21] <magespawn> okay Kilos the 16gig flash is now running 12.04
[10:22] <Kilos> yay what did you do?
[10:22] <magespawn> that laptop does not have a hard drive so used a cd and installed it to the flash drive\
[10:23] <Trixar_za> Squirm: So... when you sending those series :P
[10:24] <Kilos> ah
[10:24] <Squirm> Trixar_za: crap
[10:24] <Squirm> they're all on disk
[10:25] <Squirm> just need to actually send the bloody things :/
[10:25] <Squirm> Monday it will be!
[10:25] <Trixar_za> Unless you forget again
[10:25] <Trixar_za> :P
[10:26] <Squirm> I haven't forgotten
[10:26] <Squirm> but I'm like you
[10:26] <Squirm> and you know how lazy you can get
[10:27] <Squirm> be back in 10. need to try and track down my laundry
[10:27] <bakuman> Trixar_za, het jy al aan CTWUG try connect?
[10:27] <Trixar_za> CTWUG?
[10:28] <bakuman> http://www.ctwug.za.net/content.php?s=4a14b91be81e5fa7bc3ade20e5ace69a
[10:28] <bakuman> I get all my series there
[10:29] <Trixar_za> Free wireless
[10:30] <bakuman> yea with many people on, but you need to buy the router and antenna. And then convince someone to let you connect to them. but shouldn't be too hard in Protea Heights
[10:32] <Trixar_za> Can I use it for browsing the internet? ;P
[10:33] <bakuman> nope
[10:33] <Trixar_za> Damn
[10:33] <Trixar_za> :P
[10:35] <bakuman> ok, going to tygervallei
[10:35]  * bakuman out
[10:38] <Trixar_za> Later bakuman - Now I have something to play with. Just need to get router and antenna... :P
[10:42] <Trixar_za> Nice, you can game off it too
[10:42] <Kilos> wow
[10:45] <magespawn> Maaz tell Bakuman What device controls the ip address' on his network?
[10:45] <Maaz> magespawn: Okay, I'll tell bakuman on freenode
[10:47] <Squirm> Trixar_za: it's one very big lan
[10:47] <Squirm> the PTAWUG is the biggest
[10:47] <Trixar_za> Yeah, looks like it
[10:48] <Squirm> I don't think the Durban one is big
[10:49] <Squirm> 10min till lucnh
[10:49] <Squirm> I'm starving
[11:23] <magespawn> bbl 
[11:23] <Kilos> k
[11:23] <Kilos> hi SmilyBorg_h 
[11:29] <Squirm> better
[11:48] <Kilos> why would i be getting  HUBBARD.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU  as something im connected to
[11:48] <Kilos> what in ubuntu uses that
[11:48] <Kilos> got xchat and pidgin mxit open only
[11:49] <Kilos> http://www.club.cc.cmu.edu/
[11:50] <Symmetria> hrm
[11:50] <Symmetria> sup
[11:52] <Kilos> hey Symmetria you forgot us?
[11:56] <Symmetria> heh nah
[11:56] <Symmetria> been busy
[11:56] <Symmetria> can ya take a look at a draft presentationf or me
[11:56] <Kilos> lol ok
[11:56] <Symmetria> for me
[11:56] <Symmetria> and give me comments
[11:57] <Kilos> ok
[11:57] <Symmetria> will msg you url :)
[11:57] <Kilos> k
[12:00] <Symmetria> Kilos lemme knwo what you think :)
[12:01] <Kilos> will do. lots to read
[12:02] <magespawn> Kilos what software can you remember for data recovery?
[12:02] <Kilos> testdisk
[12:02] <Kilos> photorec
[12:02] <magespawn> got
[12:02] <Symmetria> anyone else wanna take a look at a networking preso so I can get as much feedback as possible? lol, that presentation HAS to go well
[12:02] <magespawn> okay
[12:03] <Kilos> Symmetria, put the link here then anyone can look
[12:03] <Symmetria> :) messaged you a url for it
[12:03] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/preso.pptx
[12:03] <Symmetria> :p
[12:03] <Symmetria> gimme comments :)
[12:03] <Symmetria> heh, the guy from UFS and myself are giving that presentation in Tanzania week after next 
[12:03] <Symmetria> but gotta submit it by Monday
[12:03] <Symmetria> I just love the slide with the new core design because its a thing of beauty (the design)
[12:03] <Kilos> did you work out a way to get past lotsa downtime?
[12:04] <Symmetria> kilos yip :) thats in the presentation, total downtime on any part of the network during the whole process was < 30 seconds
[12:04] <Kilos> im on page 9 only
[12:04] <Kilos> ok
[12:05] <Symmetria> we may add some traffic graphs to that presentation as well to show the v6 traffic but not sure yet 
[12:06] <Trixar_za> Well now I've seen everything
[12:06] <Kilos> how do i copy/paste from there
[12:06] <Trixar_za> Somebody made a graphic novel about Pinocchio... The Vampire Slayer
[12:06] <Symmetria> Kilos from the presentation? heh, I dont know what viewer you are using :)
[12:06] <Trixar_za> He uses his nose as a stake
[12:06] <Kilos> libreoffice
[12:07] <Symmetria> no idea :) I created it in powerpoint :p
[12:07] <magespawn> lol @ Trixar_za
[12:07] <Kilos> impress
[12:07] <Kilos> eish you windows peeps
[12:07] <Symmetria> heh, powerpoint/visio combination is fun
[12:08] <Kilos> what is additional /15 worth of ip space
[12:08] <Kilos> whats the /15
[12:08] <Symmetria> Kilos 196.254.0.0 -> 196.2555.255.255
[12:08] <Symmetria> oops :) added an extra 5 in there
[12:09] <Kilos> yeah but surely you must state additional something so peeps can understand
[12:09] <Kilos> not jusy /15
[12:09] <Kilos> just\
[12:09] <Symmetria> *hrm* possibly, might be a good idea, we didn't because its a highly technical audience but might be worth doing
[12:10] <Kilos> oh they all geeks
[12:10] <Symmetria> heh academic networking conference
[12:10] <Symmetria> :p
[12:10] <Squirm> lo
[12:10] <Kilos> lemme know if you have to explain to them what it means
[12:11] <Symmetria> heh, all in all though, I think we did a fairly decent job on that implementation
[12:11] <Symmetria> and the costs all things considered were peanuts
[12:13] <Kilos> p14
[12:13] <Kilos> should was be is
[12:13] <Kilos> ensure routinmg is
[12:13]  * Symmetria looks
[12:13] <Symmetria> yeah, fixed that
[12:14] <Kilos> and last 2 lines are under the logo stuff
[12:14] <Symmetria> *HRM* thats gotta be a libre issue, doesnt look that way on my powerpoint
[12:14] <Kilos> ok
[12:15] <Kilos> p 15 relays are setup
[12:16] <Kilos> you dont ensure something in the past
[12:16] <Kilos> and not as well supported
[12:17] <Kilos> not as supported
[12:17] <Symmetria> ugh sorry, power dropped 
[12:17] <Symmetria> so missed the last few lines :p
[12:17] <Kilos> p 15 relays are setup
[12:17] <Kilos> and not as well supported
[12:17] <Kilos> not as supported
[12:18] <Symmetria> aahh thanks :) fixing
[12:20] <Kilos> p17 once we knew
[12:20] <Symmetria> Thanks :) fixed that as well
[12:20] <Symmetria> lol by the time I got to p15 I was getting tired :P it shows
[12:20] <Symmetria> haha
[12:21] <Kilos> actually maybe once we know that devices are getting
[12:21] <Kilos> hey?
[12:22] <Symmetria> hrm
[12:22] <Symmetria> where is that?
[12:23] <Kilos> p16
[12:24] <Kilos> no 17
[12:24] <Kilos> sorry
[12:25] <Symmetria> fixed :)
[12:26] <Kilos> lol @ redbull and pizza
[12:26] <Symmetria> well, its true :P 
[12:27] <Symmetria> between the 4 of us that worked those 2 weeks doing implementation, we worked out that we drank something in the region of 240 cans of the stuff in 2 weeks
[12:27] <Symmetria> :p
[12:27] <Kilos> wow
[12:27] <Kilos> dont believe the adds
[12:28] <Kilos> it doesnt give you wings
[12:28] <Symmetria> hahahaha no but it does keep you away at 4am
[12:28] <Kilos> good coffee
[12:29] <Kilos> yip methinks its a good job
[12:29] <magespawn> i am off, see y'all later
[12:30] <Symmetria> heh, it was pretty cheap to do, the stuff on slide 22 though is the opposite of cheap
[12:30] <Kilos> toods magespawn 
[12:30] <Symmetria> that slide 22 design is MAJOR money
[12:30] <Symmetria> later magespawn
[12:30] <Symmetria> (like, 5 or 6 million major money)
[12:31] <Kilos> is this to show the foreign peeps what can be done?
[12:31] <Symmetria> heh its to say that implementing v6 isnt all that complex or expensive, and neither is fixing a broken network
[12:31] <Kilos> ah
[12:31] <Symmetria> I mean, we spent less than half a million bux fixing a network that size
[12:31] <Symmetria> and getting a 70% performance increase
[12:31] <Symmetria> with no downtime 
[12:32] <Symmetria> and half a million bux on a network that size is nothing
[12:33] <Symmetria> the moment you stick in 100gig anything
[12:33] <Symmetria> it costs you up the wazoo
[12:35] <Kilos> yip well done
[12:44] <Kilos> yo can
[12:44] <Kilos> grr
[12:44] <Kilos> tide too
[12:44] <Kilos> sarmy in tab hand
[13:12] <bakuman>  magespawn you here?
[13:12] <Maaz> bakuman: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell Bakuman What device controls the ip address' on his network?" 2 hours, 26 minutes and 59 seconds ago
[13:20] <bakuman> Maaz tell magespawn http://goo.gl/zllEf flashed with openWRT
[13:20] <Maaz> bakuman: Sure, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[13:46] <Kilos> aw the tannie left without saying toods
[13:46] <Cantide> Kilos, i only saw your greeting now haha
[13:46] <Cantide> hi :)
[13:47] <Kilos> lol
[13:58] <Kilos> wb tannie
[14:01] <Kilos> wbb
[14:35] <charlvn> good afternoon
[14:35] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[14:35]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[14:39] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn!
[14:39] <charlvn> Maaz: thanks
[14:39] <Maaz> charlvn: No problem
[14:39] <charlvn> Maaz: botsnack
[14:39] <Maaz> Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well
[14:39] <Kilos> lo charlvn 
[14:39] <charlvn> hi Kilos 
[15:05] <Kilos> ok clever cats how do i get this channel in xchat and not lose freenode same time
[15:05] <Kilos> http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=0ad
[15:06] <Kilos> inetpro, ??
[15:06] <Kilos> Maaz, ibid channel
[15:06] <Maaz> irc://autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org
[15:06] <Kilos> gotta be something like that
[15:07] <Kilos> then xchat gives the option to connect with a right click
[15:10] <Symmetria> kilos, in xchat you might be able to hit control-shit-t to open another status window, not sure if thats teh same in linux (in mac its apple-shift-t)
[15:10] <Symmetria> and then just /server in that status window
[15:11] <Kilos> nope nothing happens
[15:11] <Kilos> hehe
[15:12] <Symmetria> there is definately a hotkey to open another status window
[15:12] <Symmetria> just cant remeber what it is
[15:13] <Kilos> with a link like maaz gave for the ibid channel one just right clicks it right here a click connect
[15:13] <Kilos> ah
[15:18] <charlvn> Kilos: oh, you use a version of xchat that doesn't give you a status window? i used to have that on some distro, i think it was mint
[15:18] <charlvn> Kilos: but on ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 i now see the status window again
[15:18] <Kilos> whats a staus window?
[15:18] <Kilos> status
[15:19] <Kilos> im on 12.04
[15:19] <Symmetria> you can change it in the xchat settings I believe
[15:20] <Kilos> i looked
[15:20] <Symmetria> lol, I hate xchat under linux though, thats why I use xchat aqua under mac
[15:20] <Kilos> what! xchat rocks
[15:20] <Kilos> one just needs to be clever
[15:21] <Kilos> you sound like the kde peeps
[15:21] <Symmetria> heheh xchat aqua is a thousand times better though
[15:21] <Symmetria> they made a lot of changes in xchat aqua to make it pretty :p
[15:21] <Kilos> pretty text?
[15:22] <charlvn> lemme switch to xchat... brb
[15:22] <Kilos> whew that was fast
[15:23] <charlvn> http://i.imgur.com/KKdwG.png
[15:24] <charlvn> was that what you guys are referring to?
[15:24] <Kilos> ya mine has the nicks window on the right
[15:25] <Kilos> as well
[15:25] <Kilos> with hosts or something
[15:25] <charlvn> no but that was the server tab
[15:26] <charlvn> here's the channel tab: http://i.imgur.com/wPfIC.png
[15:26] <charlvn> this is in gnome3 on ubuntu 12.10
[15:26] <Kilos> ya mine looks like that
[15:26] <Kilos> on unity
[15:27] <charlvn> ah ok
[15:27] <Kilos> and all past ubuntus
[15:27] <charlvn> hmmm i had some version of xchat i was running that didn't have a "freenode" tab
[15:27] <Kilos> xchat is xchat i think
[15:27] <charlvn> but opened the first channel over that one
[15:27] <charlvn> it was weird... i think it was on mint if i recall correctly
[15:27] <Kilos> oh that you setup when loggong in
[15:27] <charlvn> it could just be a setting though
[15:28] <Kilos> choose server and favourite channels
[15:28] <charlvn> no past that, when you actually open the first channel
[15:28] <charlvn> when you're already connected to the server
[15:29] <Symmetria> what does alt-shift-t do (without the control)
[15:29] <Symmetria> or control-shift-t
[15:29] <Kilos> have you set the little start windows to not show?
[15:30] <Kilos> nothing i can see
[15:30] <charlvn> nothing here either
[15:30] <Kilos> hehe
[15:30] <charlvn> Kilos: yup, i hate that little window :)
[15:31] <Kilos> thats where you supposed to choose what server etc
[15:31] <Kilos> they all in therte
[15:31] <Kilos> then edit like freenode and enter #ubuntu-za
[15:32] <Kilos> charlvn, right click this link
[15:32] <Kilos> irc://autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org
[15:32] <Kilos> should give you options
[15:33] <charlvn> wow, it's definitely november, it's only 16:30 and i already need to turn on the lights inside because it's getting so dark outside :S
[15:33] <charlvn> but it's cloudy too
[15:33] <charlvn> Kilos: yes, connect and copy link
[15:33] <Kilos> ya thats the kinda link i need for that 0ad place
[15:34] <Kilos> i dunno how this one for ibid was worked out
[15:34] <Kilos> but works kiff
[15:35] <charlvn> isn't 0ad also on freenode?
[15:35] <Kilos> the game gives that link
[15:35] <charlvn> ok just /j #oad
[15:35] <charlvn> what was the link again? sorry i closed irssi so i don't have it in my history above
[15:36] <Kilos> they on another server
[15:36] <charlvn> ah ok
[15:36] <Kilos> wait
[15:36] <charlvn> if you want to connect to another server, press ctrl+t
[15:36] <charlvn> that opens a new server tab
[15:36] <Kilos> http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=0ad
[15:36] <charlvn> ah yes
[15:36] <charlvn> quakenet
[15:36] <charlvn> ok
[15:36] <charlvn> 1 sec
[15:37] <charlvn> then type: /server irc.quakenet.org
[15:37] <charlvn> that in the new tab, otherwise you will disconnect from freenode
[15:37] <charlvn> then /j #oad
[15:37] <Kilos> ok i try that
[15:38] <charlvn> sorry, i meant /j #0ad
[15:38] <charlvn> with a zero
[15:39] <Kilos> lol
[15:39] <Kilos> yay ty charlvn 
[15:39] <Kilos> now forgot what i wanted to ask them
[15:40] <charlvn> lol
[15:40] <charlvn> yup you are in, i see you there
[15:41] <Kilos> lol
[15:42] <Kilos> so we should be able to modify the ibid one to work too
[15:42] <Kilos> Maaz, ibid chsnnnel
[15:42] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[15:42] <Kilos> grrr
[15:42] <Kilos> Maaz, ibid channel
[15:42] <Maaz> irc://autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org
[15:44] <Kilos> Maaz, 0ad channel is <reply> /server irc.quakenet.org and /j #0ad
[15:44] <Maaz> Kilos: One learns a new thing every day
[15:56] <Kilos> hehe i keep adding bits as i member
[16:01] <Kilos> maybe they all sleeping
[16:02] <Kilos> hi smileE17 
[16:02] <charlvn> yeah, it's a saturday, they might be taking it easy
[16:02] <Kilos> or in a country thats still asleep
[16:03] <smileE17> hi Kilos :p
[16:14] <charlvn> hi smileE17 
[16:41] <Kilos> methinks i try 0ad in kde. maybe its faster
[16:41] <Kilos> wbb
[16:41] <smileE17> hi charlvn :)
[16:46]  * Kilos quasselfied now
[16:47] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[16:47]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[16:48] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee please
[16:48] <Maaz> charlvn: Sure
[16:51] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and charlvn!
[16:51] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[16:51] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[16:53] <charlvn> Maaz: danke
[16:53] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[16:53] <Cantide> Maaz, coffee please
[16:53] <Maaz> Cantide: There isn't a pot on
[16:53] <Cantide> ,_,
[16:54] <Kilos> hmm
[16:54] <Kilos> my kde trash can is too small
[16:54] <Kilos> grrr
[16:59] <Kilos> first time ive had to enlarge the trash can
[18:02] <Kilos> wb drubin
[18:02] <Kilos> oh my gone again
[18:02] <Kilos> inetpro: wen jy
[18:14] <smileE17> split :|
[18:16] <charlvn> now you're talking!
[18:16] <charlvn> http://icecreamjournal.turkeyhill.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/banana-split.jpg
[18:16] <charlvn> yum yum
[18:16] <smileE17> Delicious :D
[18:17]  * smileE17 aimes charlvn
[18:17] <smileE17> Parlez-vous français? :)
[18:17] <charlvn> sorry i speak basically no french :)
[18:18] <charlvn> i live close to the german border, we don't get many french people here ;)
[18:18] <charlvn> does "aimes" mean "beaam" ?
[18:21] <smileE17> aime = love
[18:21] <smileE17> :D
[18:21] <charlvn> ah i see :D
[18:21] <charlvn> me gusta
[18:21] <charlvn> sorry, that's about the only two words of spanish i speak :S
[18:21] <smileE17> not like gay people ;) but just like friends :)
[18:22] <charlvn> lol
[18:22] <smileE17> French, you mean? :P
[18:22] <charlvn> me gusta is french?
[18:22] <smileE17> Ooo :p
[18:22] <smileE17> I see! ;)
[18:22] <smileE17> aime is french :P
[18:23] <charlvn> actually, you just gave me some inspiration
[18:23] <charlvn> how would you say "me gusta" or "ich mag" in french?
[18:25] <charlvn> oh wait, i just found it: http://global3.memecdn.com/french-me-gusta_o_150838.jpg
[18:25] <charlvn> here's another one: http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/708588_700b.jpg
[18:25] <charlvn> and here: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llgm7s0xGl1qbak8mo1_500.jpg
[18:26] <charlvn> now i'm satisfied :)
[18:27] <charlvn> the german one is also good: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg2cdg2Fqh1qfhf8ao1_500.png
[18:29] <smileE17> charlvn: Je veux :p
[18:29] <smileE17> (= I want)
[18:29] <smileE17> :D
[18:29] <smileE17> lol, crazy pics
[18:30] <charlvn> :D
[18:30] <charlvn> sehr geil!
[18:30] <charlvn> the expression on that face, i mean
[18:41] <smileE17> lol. ;)
[18:41] <smileE17> "geil" is a very sexual loaded word in Dutch :P
[18:41] <smileE17> both in nl-NL & nl-BE
[18:43] <charlvn> hmmm, depends on how you understand it :P
[18:44] <charlvn> ooh, i'm watching the sketch show, do you know it?
[18:44] <charlvn> really good english comedy
[18:55] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:57] <bakuman> .
[18:57] <charlvn> he said night and then his connection got reset :/
[18:57] <charlvn> maybe he plugged his modem out
[18:57] <charlvn> hi bakuman 
[19:12] <smileE17> charlvn: no i don't :p
[19:13] <charlvn> smileE17: it's very good, highly recommended!
[19:13] <smileE17> okay :)
[19:22] <bakuman> hi charlvn 
[19:30] <smileE17> doei!!! :p
[20:03] <Squirm> hi
[20:20] <charlvn> hi Squirm 
[20:32] <Squirm> hello ChanServ 
[20:32] <Squirm> hello charlvn 
[20:33] <charlvn> lol