[00:00] <eyastaifour> the file is apparently readonly ...
[00:00] <eyastaifour> i'll copy/paste it in a new file, then do the copying
[00:02] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: great, file copied
[00:03] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Now reboot and you should see the new entries in the grub menu, select the "Try Ubuntu without installing" option and come back here (there is one more step before you can actually run the installer).
[00:05] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: Great, thanks. will be back in a few
[00:07] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: You're welcome.
[00:07] <OerHeks> noone4, stop trying DCC connect with me, thanks/
[00:07] <someuser> I've tried to install MATLAB on a mounted harddrive (not same as OS). Now I  get "unable to execute /usr/local/bin/matlab: Permission denied" even if try to start it with sudo? Any ideas.
[00:08] <vbe> maybe it's mounted noexec
[00:09] <Jordan_U> someuser: First, running commands with sudo unless you know that it needs, and was designed to be safe to run with, root permissions is a bad idea. You shouldn't just run things as root whenever you get a permissions denied error.
[00:10] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: the machine booted, but i only see a mouse cursor on a black background. i dont see disk activity (the LED) flashing either,, could it be X failing me again? or should i give it few more minutes ?
[00:10] <someuser> Jordan_U: I know. Just trying to emphizes it's wierd.
[00:10] <Jordan_U> someuser: Please pastebin the output of "mount".
[00:10] <gordonjcp> someuser: you haven't got permissions to run it
[00:11] <leftyfb> Ubuntu 12.04 ... I copied my smb.conf from my 10.04 machine which was working just fine. Basically inside one of my shares I symlink to another location. It all worked before but now it doesn't
[00:11] <gordonjcp> someuser: if it's a removable drive, that won't work
[00:11] <phillllijw> I run unity. Can anyone recommend an app or something that will display performance stats?
[00:11] <Jordan_U> someuser: If you know, then why did you try to run matlab as root?
[00:11] <gordonjcp> someuser: you almost certainly have it mounted noexec
[00:11] <someuser> gordonjcp: It's a permenet hardrive
[00:11] <someuser> gordonjcp: How to I check if its moutned noexec?
[00:11] <vbe> someuser: run 'mount'
[00:12] <vbe> someuser: run 'mount'
[00:12] <someuser> /dev/sdb1 on /media/storage type ext4 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[00:12] <leftyfb> I can follow any other directory in my share, but can't even see the symlinks
[00:12] <someuser> I see.... hehe
[00:12] <Jordan_U> someuser: Bingo :). Add an fstab entry for that partition, or if you already have an fstab entry remove the "noexec" option.
[00:13] <someuser> Damnit that was stupid of me thanks
[00:14] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: It probably is X failing again. How did you get around that the first time?
[00:14] <leftyfb> anyone?
[00:14] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: when i booted in grub the first time, i only had 2 menu entries. i picked the recovery mode one (2). i was presented with a small interface that allowed me to run FailSafeX. I chose this option, then his return
[00:14] <lastleo85> how can i install Ubuntu on MacBook Pro
[00:14] <phillllijw> just installed ubuntu last night. How can I get middle-click to allow me to scroll up/down web pages?
[00:15] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: do i restart into that running configuration, maybe to edit the custom.cfg or some other file ?
[00:15] <lfactor> hi guys, i've just installed windows 8 onto a system that was previously running only ubuntu, i've booted into ubuntu and everything works fine, however windows won't boot
[00:15] <lfactor> it gives me EUFI file not found errors
[00:16] <lfactor> can i easily convert my boot to be mbr style instead of eufi ? Is that the issue?
[00:17] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Unfortunately I don't think that the LiveCD has a similar recovery mode option, though we do have some options none the less. Can you get to a terminal with ctrl+alt+F1?
[00:18] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: Ctrl Alt F1 yields a terminal
[00:18] <lastleo85> how can i install Ubuntu on MacBook Pro
[00:19] <OerHeks> !mac | lastleo85
[00:19] <lastleo85> thanks
[00:20] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Does the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe exist?
[00:21] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: no
[00:22] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: And can you connect to the internet from within Ubuntu? (was it a Windows specific networking problem or more general?)
[00:23] <eyastaifour> it was windows specific, since i was able to use pastebin few moments ago (that made me very ahppy :))
[00:24] <unrar> ohai
[00:24] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i'm really thankful for your assistance in the past hour or so..
[00:25] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: "wget http://jordanu.dyndns.org/tmp/xorg.conf.failsafe" then "sudo cp xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[00:26] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: No problem, it's an interesting quest :)
[00:27] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: im not on the network now.. is it OK if I reboot into what was working, download the file somewhere ?
[00:27] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes, whatever is the easiest way for you to get the file.
[00:28] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: /isodevice now is what was /host few moments ago, right ?
[00:29] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes.
[00:30] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Another option would be to mount your Wubi root.disk and copy the Xorg.conf from there, no reboot required.
[00:31] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: let's try your last suggestion. FailSafeX is not working anymore. it claims it couldn't create a lock on a file that doesnt exist, and that gdm is not run....
[00:32] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: lightdm is what Ubuntu currently uses by default, not GDM.
[00:32] <subman> anyone here use deluge?  I can't seem to be able to figure out how to even get it started!  I'm installing the webui version and I don't know to 'connect'
[00:33] <eyastaifour> so, i m restarting - selecting grub's "try before installing". and now I need to mount my wubi root.disk - how do i mount it ?
[00:34] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i found something in /isodevice/ubundu/disks/root.disk
[00:34] <con-man> anyone else having issue swith certain youtube videos not playing but others do?  Specifically in chrome?  In firefox the colours are all inverted
[00:35] <con-man> if I don't listen to "Apples" by Delhi2Dublin soon I'm gonna freak out
[00:36] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: That's the file. So just "sudo mount -o loop /isodevice/ubundu/disks/root.disk /mnt/" and then "sudo cp /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[00:37] <Archio> Hi, I accidentally closed a terminal window running apt-get install before it was finished, and now any apt operations result in "unmet dependencies", and it looks like the main package that is causing the issue is libc6.
[00:37] <Archio> Is there any way I can "reset" apt-get?
[00:38] <melkor> Archio yes, what happens when you run apt-get install -f
[00:38] <Smackbook> do bad blocks mean lost data?
[00:38] <cornernote> im not awesome at ubuntu, but seeing as nobody has answerd yet... try  apt-get clean  ?
[00:38] <melkor> Smackbook: not nescessarily.
[00:38] <Jordan_U> Archio: This doesn't 'reset' apt-get, but try "sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install".
[00:38] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: great, how can i get back to X after copying the file ?
[00:38] <cornernote> ok, well someone answered as i did =)  ... i'll stand back =)
[00:38] <Jordan_U> cornernote: Archio: "apt-get clean" will *not* help.
[00:38] <melkor> Smackbook: they often can indicate a failing hard drive which will result in lost of data.
[00:38] <Archio> @melkor Tried that, I get some "locked by another process" errors ending in "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[00:39] <cornernote> ok, thanks Jordan_U for clarifying
[00:39] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i did a PS aux | grep X
[00:39] <eyastaifour> found it, killed it, and now i have a GYIUI
[00:39] <Archio> And @Jordan_U Using "sudo dpkg --configure -a" results in errors ending in "Errors were encountered while processing: man-db libc6-dev"
[00:40] <melkor> Archio: there is a lock file, but are there any apt-get processes running?
[00:40] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Great. Now we need to unmount your Windows paritition so that we can install Ubuntu. "sudo umount /mnt/ && sudo umount /isodevice/".
[00:41] <Archio> @melkor I don't think so, since I closed the terminal window. I just verified there aren't by "ps aux | grep apt-get"
[00:42] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: but whenever i enter my password in the GUI, the screen goes black for a second, a small sound plays, and i'm offered with the logon screen again
[00:42] <melkor> Archio: usually "sudo apt-get install -f" works for me though it has been awhile.
[00:42] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: And if "sudo umount /isodevice/" says that the device is busy, please post the output of "sudo losetup -a".
[00:42] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: at first, it wouldnt logong using any of my credentials. so i went back to terminal and created a user, and assigned a password to it
[00:42] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: That was the wrong thing to do, you need to use the liveCD user to install Ubuntu.
[00:43] <sireangelus2_> hello
[00:43] <sireangelus2_> i'd like to know which are the kernel modules for adb
[00:44] <Archio> @melkor This is the output I get from "sudo apt-get install -f": http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327975/
[00:44] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: sorry, it was based on assumptions. i'm restarting again into "try ubuntu" menu
[00:44] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Don't do that yet.
[00:44] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: I'm trying to figure out it creating another user would actually cause a problem.
[00:45] <blackshirt> sireangelus2_, adb ?
[00:45] <sireangelus2_> adb
[00:45] <sireangelus2_> it's the android debug clien
[00:45] <sireangelus2_> t
[00:45] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: but i thought we were booting the ISO now, and it's all in RAM, so a restart would refresh it all...
[00:45] <leftyfb> hello?
[00:45] <Smackbook> i've got an SSD (my os drive on my server) which is having problems, trying to run apt-get upgrade or dpkg-reconfigure drops the drive into RO mode and then any sudo command gives IO errors and seg faults.  I have to REISUB to even reboot it.  badblocks finds 41604028 bad blocks.  is my drive dying?
[00:45] <sireangelus2_> part of android sdk
[00:46] <phillllijw> HI best friends. I want to set up my mouse buttons but it says to edit xorg.conf but it does not exist. Where is it?
[00:46] <blackshirt> hello leftyb
[00:46] <psusi> Smackbook, yep
[00:46] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes it will, I was just hoping to save time by not needing to do the Xorg.conf copying again. Though we might as well restart just to be safe.
[00:46] <psusi> Smackbook, check the smart status in the disk utility
[00:46] <con-man> anyone else having issue swith certain youtube videos not playing but others do?  Specifically in chrome?  In firefox the colours are all inverted
[00:46] <con-man> if I don't listen to "Apples" by Delhi2Dublin soon I'm gonna freak out
[00:47] <Smackbook> psusi: interestingly, the smartstatus overall helath test is PASSED
[00:47] <Jordan_U> con-man: With Ubuntu 12.04 and Nvidia drivers?
[00:47] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: so, i now have  a GUI - logon screen, asking for a username
[00:47] <Smackbook> psusi: which i dont understand
[00:47] <psusi> are there any reallocated, unrecoverable, or pending sectors?
[00:47] <con-man> Jordan_U, how'd you guess?
[00:47] <sireangelus2_> con-man, on what hardware are you on?
[00:47] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Username "ubuntu", blank password.
[00:48] <con-man> sireangelus2_, Ubuntu 12.04 and nVidia x275
[00:48] <psusi> Smackbook, what is the exact badblocks command you ran?
[00:48] <Jordan_U> con-man: It's a known bug with VDPAU.
[00:48] <con-man> frack
[00:48] <con-man> Jordan_U, options? if any?
[00:48] <leftyfb> Ubuntu 12.04 ... I copied my smb.conf from my 10.04 machine which was working just fine. Basically inside one of my shares I symlink to another location. It all worked before but now it doesn't
[00:49] <leftyfb> I can follow any other directory in my share, but can't even see the symlinks
[00:49] <Jordan_U> con-man: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue see the accepted answer there.
[00:49] <Smackbook> psusi: sudo badblocks -sv /dev/sda
[00:49] <Smackbook> psusi: i dont knwo how to tell about those other stats
[00:49] <psusi> Smackbook, they are listed in the SMART status
[00:50] <PatrickC|Studyin> ok, quick question: i have things that need 64 bit to compile, and some that need 32 bit to compile
[00:50] <PatrickC|Studyin> is there any way to do both from one install? without running a VM
[00:50] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: the only file that I needed to copy was /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe, correct ?
[00:50] <Archio> @Jordan_U I tried "sudo apt-get install -f", but I'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327975/
[00:51] <subman> Anyone have a good recommendation for a torrent client for a headless server?  Maybe something with a web gui interface?
[00:51] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes, copying it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[00:51] <Smackbook> psusi: http://pastebin.com/zqX2AqWR
[00:51] <psusi> PatrickC|Studyin, you can run 32bit programs on a 64bit system, but if you are compiling from source, it should compile to whichever you are running
[00:51] <Smackbook> psusi: i dont know what of that output is results vs settings
[00:51] <PatrickC|Studyin> psusi: the stuff i have to compile won't compile on 64 yet
[00:51] <PatrickC|Studyin> but some of the stuff will only compile on 54
[00:51] <PatrickC|Studyin> 64*
[00:51] <Smackbook> subman: use deluge
[00:52] <blackshirt> !samba | leftyb
[00:52] <Smackbook> subman: has a great webui
[00:52] <con-man> Jordan_U, cheers bro that fixed the inverted colours issue in firefox. Chrome issue still happens though
[00:52] <subman> Smackbook, Tried deluge, couldn't figure it out.
[00:52] <con-man> sireangelus2_, any ideas
[00:52] <Smackbook> subman: really? your other options are transmission and rtorrent.
[00:52] <con-man> sireangelus2_, got the inverted colours issue resolved by Jordan_U's suggestion.  So firefox works now.  But chrome still isn't loading some videos
[00:53] <sireangelus2_> what is nvidia x275?
[00:53] <subman> Smackbook, yup, got it installed but then this connection window came up.  Never knew what it wanted.
[00:53] <con-man> sireangelus2_, my video cards
[00:53] <PatrickC|Studyin> so does anyone have a suggestion?
[00:54] <psusi> Smackbook, looks like your drive has some pretty bad firmware and isn't reporting most of the usual smart attributes... certainly does have a bunch of uncorrectable errors logged though so yea, looks like it is hosed... may just be some kind of transient corruption though that a full reformat may fix
[00:54] <psusi> PatrickC|Studyin, what kind of stuff is it?  any program worth a salt should compile on 64 bit
[00:55] <subman> Smackbook, the default was local host but what was it looking for?
[00:55] <leftyfb> blackshirt: thanks for giving me a link explaining what samba is. Unfortunately, thats not my issue and not a solution to the problem.
[00:55] <LeanMan> hey there anyone available to help?
[00:55] <PatrickC|Studyin> psusi: https://github.com/openwebos/build-desktop
[00:55] <Smackbook> subman: there is the actual daemon that does all the work, and the web thingie, the conection window (in the webui) lets you start and stop the daemon, if there was nothing listed in that window i dont know what to tell you, i'm no expert and it was a PITA to set up, but works really well since then
[00:55] <LeanMan> hello
[00:55] <daemon> Smackbook, tell me about it; I want a raise ;/
[00:55] <subman> Smackbook, yup, pita sounds about right.  Very poor docs as well.  Gave up.
[00:56] <phillllijw> I'm trying to configure my mouse buttons. Internet says to edit xorg.conf. Is this correct or are there new methods?
[00:56] <Smackbook> daemon: ;)
[00:56] <daemon> :)
[00:56] <Smackbook> psusi: is there a way to tell if my data is corrupted or if I could do a disk image copy to another drive?
[00:56] <sireangelus2_> use binary drivers
[00:56] <psusi> PatrickC|Studyin, says it supports 64bit
[00:56] <PatrickC|Studyin> psusi: whoa.. must be new
[00:56] <PatrickC|Studyin> hmm.. it supports 12.04 x64.. wonder about 12.10
[00:56] <psusi> Smackbook, your data is corrupted, you will need to restore from backup
[00:57] <slaptman> how would I install kompozer on Xubuntu 12.10?
[00:57] <subman> Smackbook, In the future, I would never recommend that to anyone.
[00:57] <LeanMan> help, I'm trying to login to Ubuntu on a usb bootable but for some reason it asks for a login
[00:57] <LeanMan> and I didn't setup any accounts - it doesn't make any sense
[00:57] <psusi> Smackbook, if you can mount it with another system and copy anything off, you are lucky
[00:57] <Smackbook> subman: i forgot how much work it was, and according psusi i'm about to get to do it all over again
[00:57] <Smackbook> psusi: i am booting off of it
[00:57] <LeanMan> help
[00:57] <Smackbook> and its running fine until i do certain things
[00:58] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: Stop running from it. Boot from a LiveCD/USB.
[00:58] <psusi> Smackbook, if you don't have a recent backup, mount annother disk and try to copy off anything important
[00:58] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: Do you have backups of your data?
[00:58] <LeanMan> help
[00:58] <LeanMan> anyone?
[00:58] <LeanMan> :(
[00:58] <subman> Smackbook, good luck with that one!
[00:58] <blackshirt> hello leanman
[00:59] <Smackbook> Jordan_U: its a file server, all the data is on a raid array seperate from the OS drive.  so no, can you even backup the OS drive?
[00:59] <bazhang> !helpme | LeanMan
[00:59] <LeanMan> hey!
[00:59] <subman> Smackbook, but thanks for the other suggestions!
[00:59] <LeanMan> will do
[00:59] <Smackbook> subman: avoid rtorrent, try transmission
[00:59] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i cant get into GUI. can we proceed in text mode ?
[00:59] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: If all the data is on a separate array, then why not just trash the drive and re-install?
[01:00] <subman> Smackbook, I've had some success with rtorrent but never tried transmission
[01:00] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: No, the Desktop CD's installer needs to run in X.
[01:00] <LeanMan> blackshirt are you available?
[01:01] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: it said "please wait one minute for the display to refresh. i pressed on OK". I'm now presented with a screen that reads many things in brown, and say [OK]
[01:01] <Smackbook> Jordan_U: well I guess thats my only option but it took me a good month of struggling to get the mdadm set up and smartmon and scripts to email me on smart failures, and not to mention setting up the headless torrent thing subman is talking about, not to mention however many other things I'm not even remembering
[01:01] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Can you pastebin your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:01] <blackshirt> leanman,yes
[01:01] <Smackbook> not to mention other things I ironically mention ;p
[01:01] <leftyfb> blackshirt: do you have any useful help or information you can provide with regards to my issue?
[01:01] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: should I press Ctrl Alt something to have a GUI console ? :)
[01:01] <magn3ts> And it's true! Rhythombox Out of the box on a new install will still crash after every. single. FLAC file.
[01:02] <magn3ts> Nice to know that we can keep that bug for... 2 years+ now?
[01:02] <LeanMan> blackshirt: great!, well - its simple really I hope. I need to utilize Ubuntu on a USB bootable but for some reason I get a login screen
[01:02] <Smackbook> Jordan_U: i'm most concered about geting my mdadm working again
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: Not knowing how to rebuild your server in the case of a failure means that you didn't plan well. Keep that in mind for the future.
[01:02] <blackshirt> leftyb, sorry guys, i left out this channel while time, what the problem is?
[01:02] <magn3ts> But hey, at least I can't manually quit it... it only closes whenever I don't want it too!
[01:02] <LeanMan> blackshirt: how do I even login when no accounts were setup
[01:02] <minwinpc> How can I turn off the automatic log out?
[01:03] <blackshirt> leanman, can you more detail please,
[01:03] <leftyfb> Ubuntu 12.04 ... I copied my smb.conf from my 10.04 machine which was working just fine. Basically inside one of my shares I symlink to another location. It all worked before but now it doesn't
[01:03] <leftyfb> I can follow any other directory in my share, but can't even see the symlinks
[01:03] <Tdaug> What is the command for Workspace switcher?  Like, I want to create a custom shortcut for "super+s" which uses only one key, what command would I use?
[01:03] <leftyfb> please don't give me a link explaining what samba is
[01:03] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: If you have another drive as large or larger than the failing one you can try to use GNU ddrescue (*not* the similarly named but much inferior dd_rescue) to image the drive.
[01:03] <blackshirt> leftyb, symlink for shares ?
[01:04] <leftyfb> within a share I made a symlink to a directory in a different directory ... it used to work on 10.04
[01:04] <dataholic> akasha: any update?
[01:04] <Smackbook> Jordan_U: well i try to take notes on the process but that doesn't mean it wont be a struggle the second time around.  and when you are fighting problems non stop by the time you try 9 things before something works it becomes a mess in your head.  And I JUST got it working smoothly and was starting to relax.  This is the first and maybe last time ill ever trust an SSD
[01:05] <blackshirt> leftyb, i try reconfigure your problem... Are you working on new fresh ubuntu system now
[01:05] <blackshirt> ?
[01:05] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328010/
[01:05] <LeanMan> blackshirt: I didn't do anything special, I just created a usb bootable, the first time ubuntu started up just fine. But after the 2nd time, ubuntu requests a login
[01:05] <Smackbook> Jordan_U: i have used ddrescue before i might try that, but thats why i was asking if my data was actually corrupted
[01:05] <leftyfb> blackshirt: as far as this troubleshooting is concerned, yes
[01:05] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: those are the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:05] <blackshirt> leanman, what are you trying to setup?
[01:06] <LeanMan> I just want to use the image burner software that comes prepacked in ubuntu
[01:06] <blackshirt> leanman, user ubuntu with blank password?
[01:06] <LeanMan> that doesn't work for some reason
[01:06] <dataholic> akasha: were is ungga?
[01:06] <LeanMan> I get a red symbol above the username box
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: If ddrescue recovers everything, then your data is probably safe (be sure to fsck after recovery). If it doesn' then there is a chance that some files will be corrupt.
[01:06] <psusi> Smackbook, you should have backups and a disaster recovery plan
[01:07] <AMDAthlon> if i upgrade my cpu from dual core to 8 core cpu will i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[01:07] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: What happens if you run "sudo service lightdm restart"?
[01:07] <psusi> AMDAthlon, no
[01:07] <Smackbook> psusi: can you even back up an OS drive?  how would you restore that?
[01:07] <akasha> dataholic: im still trying to learn ubu
[01:07] <blackshirt> leftyb, check the symlinks, is still there?
[01:07] <psusi> Smackbook, I prefer dump or tar
[01:07] <leftyfb> :/
[01:07] <AMDAthlon> & if i move my harddrive to another computer will ubuntu still boot?
[01:07] <leftyfb> blackshirt: of course it is
[01:07] <Snump> How can I get rid of Unity nd go back to a standard Gnome desktop on 12.10?
[01:07] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: im presented with a screen saying that i m running in low graphics modee. I select OK
[01:08] <Smackbook> psusi: ive never tried to back up the /, i mean how would that even work half the folders are virtual (proc...others)
[01:08] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Great. Can you get to the normal Ubuntu desktop from there?
[01:08] <blackshirt> leftyb, some error for guide
[01:08] <psusi> Smackbook, I use LVM On my servers and have a cron job make a snapshot each night and dump it to a backup drive
[01:08] <leftyfb> blackshirt: huh?
[01:08] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U and then, it goes back to text mode, with some text on a black background. appended with [OK]
[01:09] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: it says: starting configure network device [OK] <CRLF> starting configure network device security [OK]
[01:09] <Smackbook> psusi: your OS is on LVM partition?
[01:09] <blackshirt> leftyb, if it doesn't work, i guess some error throwed to you
[01:09] <psusi> Smackbook, you only backup what's actually on the drive, you either explicitly exclude mount points like /sys, /dev, and /proc, or backup utilities have a switch to only backup the one mount point without descending into any others
[01:09] <psusi> Smackbook, yes
[01:09] <Smackbook> interesting
[01:09] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: the last line reads Stopping enable remaining boot-time encrupted block devices [OK]
[01:09] <Smackbook> man linux is a harsh mistress
[01:09] <Smackbook> ;)
[01:10] <psusi> Smackbook, also if it is an important server that you don't want going down, put it on a raid
[01:10] <Smackbook> psusi: fortunatly my important data is on raid
[01:10] <michealPW> Linux is a cuddly bear, Smackbook ;)
[01:10] <psusi> Linux is a broadword, you can hack down problems, or cut your foot off ;)
[01:10] <hthompson> does ubuntu have a mascot?  Like tux for linux?
[01:11] <blackshirt> human beings
[01:11] <xangua> !12.10 | hthompson
[01:11] <genii-around> hthompson: The "Circle of Friends"
[01:11] <Smackbook> hthompson: yeah a little funny circle thing with some half circles cut out
[01:11] <Smackbook> genii-around: is that what that thing is?
[01:11] <genii-around> Smackbook: Yes.
[01:11] <hthompson> Smackbook: that's logo not mascot!
[01:11] <Smackbook> i was just kidding
[01:11] <psusi> Smackbook, why did you put the OS on an SSD?
[01:12] <Smackbook> psusi: why not?  i thought by now they should be trustworthy, and make bootup faster etc
[01:12] <genii-around> hthompson: All Linux have the penguin for a mascot.
[01:12] <psusi> Smackbook, who cares about bootup on a server?  it's alway son
[01:12] <Smackbook> true
[01:12] <michealPW> hehe
[01:12] <bkfitz> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on new Lenovo X1 Carbon laptop:  I have a mini-display port to HDMI cable going into my 1080 LCD.  When I use Fn F7 to switch between 1. laptop only, 2. laptop and TV, and 3. TV only - 2 and 3 do show up on the TV, but the resolution seems to be slightly greater than 1920x1080 so I can't see my top and bottom bar, but only barely.  Any idea why my on-board graphics would be doing this?  Any workarounds to hard-code
[01:12] <bkfitz> the 1920x1080 resolution?  Help!
[01:12] <Smackbook> psusi: are SSDs considered less reliable?
[01:12] <hthompson> genii-around: oh ok.  They should do small variants of tux then.  I think it would be cool.  Like have tux with circle of friends tattoo
[01:13] <psusi> Smackbook, not neccesarily, but all drives fail
[01:13] <psusi> that's why you have backups
[01:13] <michealPW> Don't SSDs have a limited number of read/write cycles? I guess technically even mechanical drives have a limited number, taking into account wear/tear. Meh.
[01:13] <michealPW> Backup > *
[01:13] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: apologies for overclogging your bandwidth.. i m wondering - any recommendations ?
[01:14] <psusi> naw, regular drives don't really take wear and tear from read/write, more from turning on/off
[01:14] <leftyfb> useless, as usual
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, The basic rhetoric is ssd have as long a life as a disc drive.
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> now at least
[01:14] <michealPW> mm, so really it's best to just leave a PC running then? I mean, it seems like power on/off seems to kill everythign the most, esp. monitors..
[01:14] <Smackbook> so should I replace this with another SSD or not a regular drive?
[01:14] <psusi> wilee-nilee, depends... if you are doing a LOT of writes, can shorten it considerably
[01:14] <michealPW> HEH might aswell leave it all on. Sure cuts down on boot-time (rofl)
[01:15] <Ray2> If no moving parts in ssd why not longer
[01:15] <Guest35215> boa tarde estou tentando controlar o ubuntu 12.04 pelo smartphone  instalei o Gmote ele acha o meu IP, mas na hora de funcionar aparece a mensagem problemas de conexão, quando baixei o arquivo veio GmoteServerLinux2.0.0.tar.gz eu estrai a pasta e coloquei este arquivo para executar GmoteServer.sh, mas aparece uma mensagem de erro
[01:15] <Guest35215> There was an error running the gmote server. Please visit Http:/www.gmote.org/faq for more information unable to load library 'vlc': libvlc.so: Não é possível abrir arquivo de objetos compartilhados: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado.
[01:15] <Guest35215> e nada funciona.
[01:15] <Guest35215> Outra coisa que estou tentando fazer funcionar é o bluetooth, esta tudo instalado corretamente "acredito" mas quando coloco o adaptador usb ele até transfere um arquivo, mas logo em seguida trava o notebook e nada mais funciona tenho que desligar direto no botão e depois ligar de novo.
[01:15] <FloodBot1> Guest35215: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:15] <psusi> Smackbook, I don't see any reason to have the OS on an SSD in a server, especially one that isn't raided
[01:15] <blackshirt> leftyfb, you just tell useless as usual, it makes no sense for solving the problem
[01:15] <psusi> Smackbook, I usually use a 4 drive raid5 or raid10 and just put the whole thing on that
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> psusi, That is not necessarily true but if I had a ssd I would limit the writes, at least that is what some of the experts have said.
[01:16] <michealPW>  I was just thinking about buying a used server off eBay. I mean, you can get a rippin' little home server for backups (raid, redundancy for the win!) for like $200 hehe
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> seems like it should be though psusi
[01:16] <psusi> wilee-nilee, that's why they say it... the more writes, the faster it wears out...
[01:16] <Guest35215> alguém fala portuques
[01:16] <Smackbook> psusi: heh no room for that, i have 8 drives already in my case for my raidpool
[01:16] <Smackbook> not counting OS
[01:16] <psusi> Smackbook, so put the OS on those
[01:16] <michealPW> In a small, cool looking rack-mountable server case you can toss in your closet or something and have all your computers in your house dump backups to it
[01:16] <bkfitz> SSD's rock.  Period.  Let's talk about Ubuntu
[01:16] <michealPW> And you wont have to worry :P
[01:17] <Smackbook> and from what I had read when setting the server up OS on raid only like very recently became possible and is really tricky
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> psusi, I will agree to disagree, I have looked at this on the web a awhile back, the basic consensus is that a modern ssd can take as many as a disc HD. ;)
[01:17] <psusi> Smackbook, not really
[01:17] <psusi> wilee-nilee, for typical desktop usage, yes.. hence, why I said if you are writing to it A LOT
[01:17] <bkfitz> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on new Lenovo X1 Carbon laptop:  I have a mini-display port to HDMI cable going into my 1080 LCD.  When I use Fn F7 to switch between 1. laptop only, 2. laptop and TV, and 3. TV only - 2 and 3 do show up on the TV, but the resolution seems to be slightly greater than 1920x1080 so I can't see my top and bottom bar, but only barely.  Any idea why my on-board graphics would be doing this?  Any workarounds to hard-code
 the 1920x1080 resolution?  Help!
[01:18] <darth_damian_000> hello. i want to install a gnome shell weather extension so that i get the weather (with temperature displayed on the panel) for GNOME 3.6 on ubunto 12.10. Can anyone guide me?
[01:19] <michealPW> I"ve been thinking of putting my games on an SSD. Would that make any sense? Would it speed up the loading times, at least?
[01:19] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Can you pastebin the output of "startx"?
[01:19] <psusi> michealPW, if you got an ssd in a desktop, you want to put the whole OS on it really
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> psusi, I change computers about every 2 years and have been lucky to never have a disc fail, but I backup everything anyways.
[01:20] <michealPW> I guess it would be a terribly inefficient use of the limited SSD storage capacity, given that some of todays games are exceeding 8gb easily :\
[01:20] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: would you like me to kill its instances, before running it and exporting its output ?
[01:20] <michealPW> psusi: The OS, not the games? I primarily use that machine in particular for gaming, not much of anything else gets done with it.
[01:20] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes, but do so via "sudo service lightdm stop" so that it doesn't simply respawn.
[01:21] <psusi> michealPW, the whole thing
[01:21] <darth_damian_000> hello. i want to install a gnome shell weather extension so that i get the weather (with temperature displayed on the panel) for GNOME 3.6 on ubuntu 12.10. Can anyone guide me?
[01:21] <psusi> michealPW, I just use my big rotating drive for storing music and videos
[01:21] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i could re-write it all, but mainly it says : Fatal Server error: no screens found
[01:21] <michealPW> psusi: Ah, so preferably it would be best to have a Desktop machine with the entire thing using SSD exclusively for storage then?
[01:21] <michealPW> psusi: Ah, makes perfect sense. Interesting! :)
[01:21] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: is this info enough, or would you like me to pastebin it all (machine has no network, i ll have to retype it :) )
[01:22] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Why does the machine have no network access now when it did before?
[01:22] <eyastaifour> it did when we booted from the first time, right after the mini installation, when i was modifying the file to add the new entries
[01:23] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: upon restarting, we selected a new entry (try ubuntu). i never got through the GUI, so i never connected to the wireless network
[01:24] <michealPW> psusi: I'm still on the prowl for a USEFUL low-profile discrete graphics card for my machine... So far mostly what I can find ( Without importing from abroad :| ) are really crappy or stupidly expensive workstation cards hehe
[01:24] <Sean_> hello
[01:25] <nilexchaos> sean: Hello! How are you?
[01:25] <Sean_> Im doing great, how are you?
[01:25] <nilexchaos> Me too... So, what are you doing?
[01:25] <Sean_> perhaps you can help me
[01:25] <darth_damian_000> how do i install gnome common for gnome 3.6 ?
[01:26] <Sean_> So I have two hard drives, one with windows 7 and other I just installed ubuntu 12.10
[01:26] <Sean_> I installed it, I got to the last option and restarted
[01:26] <nilexchaos> Sean: Okay
[01:26] <Sean_> computer boots up and goes right into windows 7
[01:26] <Sean_> Im a bit lost on how to get into ubuntu
[01:26] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: can i add failsafeX to Grub ?
[01:26] <psusi> Sean_, you probably chose to install the boot loader to the other drive, but your computer boots from the windows drive
[01:27] <psusi> Sean_, go into your bios and tell it to boot from the other drive
[01:28] <Sean_> Im trying to have it so its dual boot, so when the computer turns I have the option for ubuntu or windows 7
[01:28] <M13> hello]
[01:28] <M13> hello*
[01:28] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Does the text in your terminal seem fairly large, or does does the terminal seem to be using the full resolution of the screen?
[01:28] <psusi> Sean_, yes... GRUB should present a menu offering which one you want to boot
[01:29] <psusi> Sean_, you either need to reinstall and tell it to install grub to the widows drive, or tell your bios to boot from the ubuntu drive... you could use the livecd to just reinstall grub, but it's probably easier to just reinstall the whole thing rather than explain how to do that
[01:30] <darth_damian_000> can anyone help me with gnome weather extension?
[01:30] <Sean_> ok
[01:30] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: terminal seems to be using the full resolution of the screen. text doesnt seem large
[01:31] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: OK. Do you know how to edit kernel parameters from the grub menu?
[01:31] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: yes - i just tried adding nomodeset
[01:31] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: it seems it's fixing it... not sure yet
[01:31] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: That was what I was going to suggest, did it work?
[01:31] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: yup :)
[01:31] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Great :)
[01:32] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: but it didnt ask me to logon this time
[01:32] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: so, you mentioned we needed to do one more thing before starting the installation process ?
[01:32] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: That's because the normal automatic login didn't fail this time :)
[01:32] <darth_damian_000> how do i install gnome common ?
[01:32] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes. Please pastebin the output of "mount" and "sudo losetup -a".
[01:34] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328054/
[01:35] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: And "sudo losetup -a"?
[01:35] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328056
[01:35] <franto> ciao
[01:35] <franto> \list
[01:36] <eyastaifour> i havent unmounted the windows part yet BTW
[01:36] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i havent unmounted the windows partition yet.. was too busy workingon the gui :)
[01:36] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: You wouldn't have been able to without first removing the loop device anyway :)
[01:36] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0
[01:37] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Then "sudo umount /isodevice/"
[01:37] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: yet
[01:37] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Then pastebin the output of "mount" and "sudo losetup -a" again.
[01:38] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328059
[01:38] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Great. You should now be able to run the Ubuntu installer normally.
[01:39] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: (Just click on the install icon on the Desktop)
[01:41] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: you're a wizard. i don't have the words to express my gratitude for your patience and guidance
[01:42] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: how can i make a donation ?
[01:43] <Ray2> !cookies | jordon_u
[01:44] <gimpy19> Can anyone help without an Ubuntu 12.04+LXDE issue with a black background on EVERYTHING?  http://postimage.org/image/87nz056mf
[01:44] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: No donation needed. If you're around for the next release of Super GRUB2 Disk I might ask you to be a guinea pig though :)
[01:44] <gimpy19> This was working before installing nvidia-current.
[01:44] <crankharder> so, /etc/init.d/postgresql exists, and works, and that's great.  This other script expects /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.2 to be present and +x, so I "ln -s /etc/init.d/postgresql /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.2" - and now /etc/init.d/postgresql just flat out doesn't work, no messages, no starting/stopping of the server, exists 0... what gives?
[01:44] <keithclark> Is there a really easy beginners how to for transmission command line program?
[01:44] <gimpy19> crankharder: Your ln is backwards?
[01:45] <crankharder> keithclark: try, try again, try again, fail, repeat
[01:45] <crankharder> see, i'm retarded, my ln is backwards
[01:45] <crankharder> fml
[01:45] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: I wouldn't mind :)
[01:45] <keithclark> crankharder, ???
[01:45] <eyastaifour> Thanks again! I'm forever grateful
[01:46] <crankharder> my ln is not backwrds
[01:46] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: You're welcome :)
[01:46] <crankharder> sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.2 /etc/init.d/postgresql => ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/init.d/postgresql': File exists
[01:47] <crankharder> gimpy19: ^^ ?
[01:47] <keithclark> crankharder, ???
[01:47] <gimpy19> crankharder: You want the link to be '/etc/init.d/postgresql --> /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.2', right?  Then that IS backwards!
[01:48] <OpenSorce> Shouldn't sudo apt-get dist-upgrade work in 9.10?
[01:48] <gimpy19> the link is /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.2.
[01:48] <xangua> !eol | OpenSorce
[01:50] <crankharder> gimpy19: https://gist.github.com/0d8fcf074c9f4a9c669e right, so, anyways, the link is in place... why don't either work now?
[01:51] <Jordan_U> gimpy19: In the ln command the first argument is the target and the second argument is the "link name" or that path where the link should be created, (with that link poining to the target specified as the first argument).
[01:51] <marcio> hey everyone
[01:52] <marcio> is anyone else running ubuntu on an acer aspire netbook?
[01:52] <marcio> i find that mines a bit slow with 12.10
[01:53] <Jordan_U> marcio: If you don't have proper hardware accellerated 3D then things will be *very* slow.
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> marcio, I have a aceraspire d250 2 gigs ram it runs a bit slower then my dual core toshiba, bump the ram .
[01:54] <gimpy19> Jordan_U: Yea but it sounds like you created it bawkards to start with so now it won't allow you to over-werite it with the correct one.
[01:54] <gimpy19> s/you/that other person/
[01:54] <marcio> jordan wilee, you think the ram is all i need? im super new to ubuntu so i have no clue what it could be
[01:54] <marcio> i mean jordan + wilee
[01:54] <SnapSnap> I'd like Ubuntu 12.10 to display the date on the calendar in five digits. I.e., 02012. Any ideas how to go about this?
[01:58] <marcio> jordan, how do i get the proper hardware accelerated 3d?
[02:00] <Jordan_U> marcio: First, lets see if you are or aren't getting it already. Please pastebin the output of "glxinfo".
[02:00] <michealPW> glxinfo | grep direct
[02:00] <michealPW> It should say at the top either "Direct Rendering: Yes" or "Direct Rendering: No"
[02:00] <michealPW> No is bad ;)
[02:01] <marcio> it says glxinfo is not installed, forgive me im a real newbie to this
[02:01] <michealPW> No it's okay
[02:01] <SnapSnap> I'd like Ubuntu 12.10 to display the date on the calendar in five digits. I.e., 02012. Any ideas how to go about this?
[02:01] <drmundo> zsnes crashes on 12.10 for me :(
[02:02] <michealPW> marcio: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[02:02] <michealPW> That should give you the glxinfo utility
[02:02] <marcio> thanks im installing now
[02:02] <gimpy19> drmundo: What's the error?  What does stace say?
[02:02] <trism> SnapSnap: dconf-editor, com/canonical/indicator/datetime add a 0 in front of %Y in the custom format and switch the format to custom
[02:03] <marcio> im having a blast on ubuntu, i just feel like im 8 years old again and everythings new again, kind of exciting
[02:03] <gimpy19> s/stace/strace/
[02:03] <michealPW> hehe, don't feel bad. We were all there once :)
[02:03] <trism> SnapSnap: you'll have to fix it manually in ~8000 years
[02:04] <michealPW> Ubuntu has a great community, though. It's a great place to learn :)
[02:04] <marcio> okay after typing glxinfo into the terminal it spit a whole bunch of stuff at me, do you want to paste it all here?
[02:04] <marcio> michael i can see that!
[02:04] <michealPW> Nope, try this instead: glxinfo | grep direct
[02:04] <michealPW> That will shorten what it spits out at you. At the top it should say either "Direct Rendering: Yes" or Direct Rendering: No"
[02:04] <SnapSnap> trism, The value for custom-time-format is "%l:%M %p". Do I change it to "%l:%M %p 0%y" ?
[02:05] <marcio> it says direct rendering yes
[02:05] <trism> SnapSnap: oh yes, sorry I must has edited mine
[02:05] <chimney> test
[02:05] <chimney> someone reading me?
[02:05] <trism> SnapSnap: %Y though, otherwise you only get 2 digits
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> chimney, If you see your posts we all see you.
[02:06] <Jordan_U> michealPW: Just grepping for direct does *not* give you an accurate test any more. llvmpipe (which does software rendering) still produces "direct rendering: Yes".
[02:06] <gimpy19> michealPW: In what magic does 'Direct' match 'direct'?
[02:06] <SnapSnap> trusm, the value is now "%l:%M %p 0%Y". Still looks the same
[02:06] <trism> SnapSnap: you also have to change time-format to custom
[02:06] <Jordan_U> michealPW: And with Ubuntu 12.10 llvmpipe is the fallback, so you'll pretty much always get "Yes" for that test.
[02:07] <chimney> wilee-nilee: ok thanks
[02:07] <chimney> bue
[02:07] <marcio> so since it says direct rendering yes is there any way to speed this baby up or will i have to buy ram?
[02:07] <chimney> bye
[02:07] <raj> how can i check if I have nginx?
[02:07] <SnapSnap> trism, Now it displays the time and the date (02012), but I also had it displaying the day of the week, month, and date. The day, month, and date are gone.
[02:07] <michealPW> marcio: ok try glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
[02:08] <trism> SnapSnap: you can add all those and more, see: man date; or man strftime
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> marcio, I would set the swappiness to 10. http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[02:09] <chadams> need some quick guidance, just installed ubuntu 12.10 from a USB stick like a CD - last time I tried it with the windows installer, graphics drivers caused it to stop working. I have an ASUS Radeon HD 6670. Has anyone had experience with ubuntu drivers for this card before?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> marcio: As I just explained to michealPW, the fact that it says Yes actually means nothing (it used to mean something in previous versions of Ubuntu).
[02:09] <SnapSnap> trism, thanks for your help
[02:10] <wols> chadams: your card should work out of the box. no work or special drivers necessary
[02:10] <chadams> wols: for 3d acceleration? braid was painfully slow when I tried it
[02:11] <gimpy19> Can anyone help without an Ubuntu 12.04+LXDE issue with a black background on EVERYTHING?  http://postimage.org/image/87nz056mf
[02:11] <marcio> ok i opened gl rendering, what is swappiness?
[02:12] <gimpy19> marcio: Kernel spappiness?  Google.  THere's TONS of info on it.
[02:12] <marcio> ok ty
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> marcio, Take a look at the link I gave you.
[02:13] <RedHate> i like lolly pops.
[02:14] <michealPW> Well, I should be going. Take care, everyone.
[02:14] <marcio> im doing it now, thanks a million wilee
[02:15] <tclay723> emacs
[02:17] <marcio> okay so im trying to change swappiness to 10 and i checked and its set to 60
[02:17] <marcio> i have to open /etc/sysctl.conf as root, how do i do that
[02:17] <dlam> i had a rackspace box get f'ed up such that I couldn't SSH into it, and had to restart it--  anyone know what log file to look at to figure out what ahppened?
[02:18] <psusi> marcio, why are you worried about swappiness?
[02:19] <marcio> i dont know, someone told me that it might speed up my pc
[02:19] <tomreyn> dlam: syslog, daemon.log
[02:19] <marcio> i literally know nothing about ubuntu and want my netbook running a bit faster
[02:19] <psusi> marcio, someone was most likely wrong
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> marcio, There is a app called startup applications, it needs to be loaded to see what runs at startup, you can turn off stuff you don't use like say bluetooth if your'e not using it etc, be careful here, the benefits are small but they are there.  sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[02:20] <tomreyn> dlam: and auth.log if you want to know who tried to authenticate
[02:20] <dlam> tomreyn: thx thx
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> that command will load the app, marcio
[02:20] <deemeetar> Hello, I have been having this problem for quite some time(11.04 till now). I have 12.04 and my wireless doesn't detect only my wireless network. Sometimes when my laptop shutdowns because of empty battery, when i restart it later i can't connect to my wireless. Till now i could resolve this with several disable - enable network repeats but this time i can't connect(nor find it) anyway. I'm connected from my phones tethering and looking for a solution.
[02:21] <marcio> thanks wilee, it wont paste into terminal, will i have to type all that manually?
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> marcio,  sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[02:21] <psusi> marcio, how much ram do you have?
[02:21] <marcio> i have 512mb
[02:21] <psusi> outch...
[02:21] <psusi> that's one old system
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> time for lubuntu maybe
[02:22] <psusi> yea
[02:22] <psusi> cell phones have more ram than that these days
[02:22] <OpenSorce> Still not as old as mine... which btw I DID get working :-P
[02:22] <marcio> whats lubuntu?
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> marcio, I figured you had a gig, I would run lxde, or lubuntu if it were me.
[02:23] <psusi> an ubuntu remix with lower ram and gfx requirements
[02:23] <marcio> are those as user friendly as ubuntu 12:10?
[02:23] <psusi> it's pretty much a more stripped down desktop that does't use quite as much ram or 3d effects
[02:24] <M13> lubuntu is a lieghtweight ubuntu  distro
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> marcio, here is what it looks like, you can install it and run it or what you have now with a gear dropdown at the login line.
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[02:24] <M13> um does anyone know how to keep a progrma running in ubuntu vps
[02:25] <tomreyn> marcio: it's different, a bit less user-friendly maybe (but this is a subjective matter, personally i'd prefer it to unity), but things will be much faster
[02:25] <M13> ubuntu server (host1free vps)
[02:25] <marcio> okay, so which do you guys reccomend, lubuntu or lxde?
[02:25] <marcio> for a complete noob
[02:26] <tomreyn> M13: check the "nohup" command or GNU screen
[02:26] <marcio> also, i have been studying ubuntu manuals, will what i learn from there also apply to these distros?
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> marcio, They are pretty much the same I think lubuntu just has a few more apps.
[02:27] <psusi> what I would recommend is getting a laptop that isn't 8 years old ;)
[02:27] <lfactor> hey guys anyone know how to get windows installed and booting after i have ubuntu installed on an EUFI / GPT machine?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> you can install any apps needed, but you will have all the apps from unity already, I would probably go lxde, but others may difer here.
[02:28] <marcio> more apps than ubuntu? thats good right? lol
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> marcio, ^^^^^
[02:28] <psusi> lfactor, I would imagine by putting in the install cd and installing it
[02:28] <lfactor> alas that's not the case :) i end up with grub not being able to find an EFI image for win :)
[02:29] <geoffrey> bonjour
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> marcio, lxde and lubuntu just use some of the same basic apps, but different versions, for example leafpad as a text app rather then gedit.
[02:29] <psusi> lfactor, so you installed windows, got it booting, then tried to return control of the system to grub to dual boot and had problems?
[02:29] <marcio> do those distros also have the software center? thats pretty much how i got all my current apps
[02:30] <DrManhattan> what's a good lightweight ftp server for ubuntu
[02:30] <lfactor> psusi: no, windows did not boot at all
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> marcio, You would still have the software center it probably is in lxde, if installed in ubuntu, but you have it already it will not be removed.
[02:31] <psusi> lfactor, after installing windows, it should replace grub
[02:31] <lfactor> psusi: i.e it didn't overwrite the MBR, or write and EFI
[02:31] <Jordan_U> marcio: Lubuntu doesn't come with Ubuntu Software Center by default because it's such a resouce intensive app, but you can install it yourself (along with any other software that you would install in any other flavor, they all use the same repositories).
[02:31] <psusi> lfactor, you have the 64 bit version of windows?
[02:32] <marcio> so to install lxde or lubuntu would i have to make a bootable usb like i did for ubuntu and install from scratch?
[02:32] <ASHER1> Hey
[02:32] <ASHER1> i need please about something i try to configure
[02:33] <psusi> marcio, you can, or you can just install the lubuntu-desktop package, log out, and log in using lxde
[02:33] <ASHER1> i configure something project and i have problem with STL
[02:33] <ASHER1> what i need to fix this?
[02:33] <raymondjtoth> any good short wave chat on here in freenode
[02:33] <FroMaster> New to ubuntu and wondering where i should put a new apache vhost... I'd usually put it in /var/www/<vhostdir> but ubuntu has a default site set to /var/www/  . What's the recommended location to put vhosts dirs?
[02:33] <psusi> ASHER1, -ETOOVAGUE
[02:34] <marcio> psusi, how do i do that?
[02:34] <ASHER1> what is this?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> marcio, Some of us will have several desktops, I do as I like the gnome-shell more then unity, so I just install the shell on a regular ubuntu install that has unity. There is a website as well that has the complete package lists for the 4 main desktops used with ubuntu, so if you wanted you can remove a extra desktop if you wanted.
[02:34] <lfactor> psusi: umm, embarrasingly i'm unsure
[02:34] <ASHER1> psusi
[02:34] <ASHER1> what is this?
[02:34] <psusi> lfactor, afaik, MS only supports EFI with the 64 bit windows
[02:34] <lfactor> psusi: i downloaded the win8 iso from microsoft, didn't see an option for 32/64
[02:34] <dcvl> is there a good place to to go to begin learning commands for ubuntu/linux?   I'm experienced in command line with Cisco devices but brand new to linux. Figured I'd give it a try. Long time windows user
[02:34] <lfactor> psusi: running 64 ubuntu :)
[02:34] <psusi> ASHER1, your question is too vague to be answered
[02:35] <deemeetar> Can anyone help me with this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12334129#post12334129
[02:35] <ASHER1> i say i have problem with configure and i need install STL
[02:35] <psusi> marcio, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[02:35] <xangua> !here | deemeetar
[02:36] <FroMaster> New to ubuntu and wondering where i should put a new apache vhost... I'd usually put it in /var/www/<vhostdir> but ubuntu has the default site set to /var/www/  . What's the recommended location to put vhosts dirs?
[02:36] <ASHER1> someone can please help me about this
[02:36] <ASHER1> checking for STL support... no
[02:36] <ASHER1> configure: error: Sorry, you need STL support with your compiler
[02:37] <psusi> FroMaster, wherever you want
[02:37] <geekmind> hello!
[02:37] <lfactor> psusi: i'll attempt to see if i can find out what's going on re 64 bit :) cheers
[02:37] <psusi> ASHER1, you probably need to install g++
[02:37] <geekmind> I can't start my sesion!
[02:37] <FroMaster> psusi: there's not a ubuntu convention i should adhere to?
[02:37] <ASHER1> but i have g++
[02:38] <geekmind> I think the disk is not mounted as RW, only as R
[02:38] <psusi> FroMaster, no
[02:38] <geekmind> but I don't know what to do!
[02:38] <deemeetar> xangua: Basicaly, i can't connect to my own wireless network since 11.04(now have 12.04) . Other networks work just fine ... Sometimes after my laptop shutdowns from battery power, or the rooter restarts because of electricity ... or any other forceful disconect, my laptop cannot find my wireless. I've been fixing this with Disable Network - Enable network but today i can't ... I have BCM43225 network with proprietary drivers.
[02:38] <marcio> psusi thanks a million, im installing it
[02:39] <ASHER1> psusi
[02:39] <ASHER1> i have g++
[02:39] <ASHER1> and i run something project in ubuntu 12.04
[02:39] <psusi> geekmind, figure out why it is mounted read only... you might check dmesg or /var/log/syslog for errors, or the disk utility for the disk SMART status
[02:40] <svm_invictvs> Is it possible to do a dry-run of uninstalling a package so you can see what it will affect?
[02:40] <geekmind> psusi: I can't do anything because I can't even mount the fs in safe mode
[02:40] <psusi> geekmind, you said it was mounted read only
[02:40] <geekmind> yes, I guess that
[02:40] <geekmind> because I can get to GDM, but I can't login
[02:40] <psusi> well, which is it?
[02:41] <geekmind> and if I enter in safe mode, I can't mount the fs
[02:41] <geekmind> and if I enter to TTY1, I can't login either
[02:41] <psusi> if you boot, it's already mounted
[02:41] <marcio> psusi, so is what i am currently doing installing a new os from my current os? does that mean my pc will dual boot?
[02:41] <psusi> boot into rescue mode, choose root shell, and check dmesg or /var/log/syslog
[02:41] <geekmind> psusi: well, what can I do then?
[02:42] <geekmind> I tried that already
[02:42] <psusi> marcio, if you install windows, it will take over the system... you used to have to reinstall grub to get it back in control and be able to choose to boot Ubuntu, but if you are using UEFI, you should be able to just go into the bios and choose to boot Ubuntu
[02:42] <rickbol> deemeetar: what wifi card do you have?
[02:42] <geekmind> and I can't read that because the FS is not mounted
[02:42] <deemeetar> rickbol: BCM43225
[02:43] <psusi> geekmind, if it wasn't mounted you wouldn't even get a shell
[02:43] <ven> What's new in Ubuntu mesh networking?
[02:43] <deemeetar> rickbol: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4357] (rev 01)
[02:43] <geekmind> psusi: I don't know what's going on, but that's what I see when I try to get to the root shell
[02:43] <marcio> im confused, so ill still have ubuntu, im just installing another os on the same partition?
[02:44] <rickbol> I just git a bcm4322, but I haven't tried it yet. It is replacing a bcm4311 (in a Dell D630) which suffered some of the symptoms you describe under heavy load.
[02:45] <devart> could anyone steer me in the right direction here please: the problem i have is not easily replicated and tends to just happen mysteriously. every now and again, doesnt matter the activity i am doing, the ubuntu 11.10 i am running tends to just lock up and hang. no keyboard response and no mouse, no ctrl+alt+del or alt+f#
[02:45] <rickbol> I also tried an intel 4965, but it suffered regression bugs as well.
[02:46] <devart> i know there are log files i need to look into, but i dont know what im looking for... ^.^
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> marcio, If you are installing like lxde or lubuntu in ubuntu it is just another desktop environment
[02:47] <rickbol> deemeetar: the bcm4311 failed under heavy load (I'm currently typing using it now). I have an HP Mini that had a bcm4322, and it seems to work fine, so I thought I'd try one of those in this Dell D630
[02:47] <psusi> geekmind, what is what you see?
[02:47] <TheLordOfTime> noone4, please don't be trying to initiate DCC with everyone, that's a bad practice.
[02:48] <deemeetar> rickbol: well i don't have problems when connected... only like this.. I download large files with constant speed of 20Mbit/s over night and no problem at all. Just like this... can't find my network .. and this time i can't really fix it. The only solution to me it seems is to boot into windows :(
[02:49] <deemeetar> And the sad part is i need internet for studying cause my midterm is tomorrow and i spent 3 hours trying to connect :9
[02:49] <marcio> wilee thanks! so its done installing now, if i restart will it automatically boot to lubuntu?
[02:50] <geekmind> psusi: if I try anything from the failsafe mode, I get the following message (similar): "Ubuntu needs to remount the system as R/W. Continue?" and I press "Yes". After a while, I get this error: "Can't mount the filesystem as read/write"
[02:51] <rolling> 4253030074535603	 01/15	 815 	katarina matovic 	ADDRESS 	CITY	 state	 zip code	 PORTUGAL
[02:51] <rolling> o.o
[02:51] <rolling> love it or hate it
[02:51] <tomreyn> devart: /var/log/kern.log* /var/log/dmesg* (older files are gzip compressed, use zcat  to operate on them
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> marcio, At the login window you will see a gear next to the login line that is a drop down for choosing the desktop you want to run.
[02:51] <rolling> 4253030074535603	 01/15	 815 	katarina matovic 	ADDRESS 	CITY	 state	 zip code	 PORTUGAL
[02:51] <rickbol> deemeetar: I'm no expert in wifi\AP negotiation etc, but i fairly decent amount is probably logged in dmesg
[02:52] <tomreyn> rolling: please keep it on topic
[02:52] <devart> tomreyn: ahah! thanks bud, i saw those compressed logs, but cat gave me garble :D thank you again
[02:52]  * rolling slaps tomreyn around a bit with a large trout
[02:52] <rolling> 4253030074535603	 01/15	 815 	katarina matovic 	ADDRESS 	CITY	 state	 zip code	 PORTUGAL
[02:52] <tomreyn> !op rolling
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> !ops | rolling
[02:53] <bobbyj> geekmind did you try running mount -o remount,rw / at the command line in safemode?
[02:54] <psusi> geekmind, choose the root shell option, and it sounds like your disk is fubar... you should try booting from the livecd and checking it
[02:54] <geekmind> nope
[02:54] <geekmind> I'll try that, bobbyj
[02:54] <deemeetar> rickbol: How can i see messages relative to my networking with dmesg?
[02:55] <geekmind> psusi, bobbyj, I'll reboot to test if it works. I'll be back later.
[02:55] <psusi> deemeetar, you run dmesg, and look for messages relative to networking
[02:55] <marcio> ok im going to restart and try it
[02:55] <marcio> thanks guys!
[02:57] <ASHER1> :\ how i can fix problem with STL?
[02:57] <rickbol> deemeetar:  try "sudo dmesg | grep wlan"  and "sudo dmesg | grep b43"
[02:58] <rickbol> deemeetar: correction, you're running the proprietary broadcom drivers, so maybe it is "sudo dmesg | grep STA"?
[02:59] <nucc1> is anyone using the terminal plugin for gedit? is there any way i can adjust the colours? it appears to be white on grey
[02:59] <deemeetar> rickbol ... nothing relevant there : Tried 43, STA, eth1 :(
[02:59] <deemeetar> there is text but nothing that looks unordinary
[02:59] <rickbol> deemeetar: try wlan
[02:59] <devart> #cisco
[02:59] <devart> oops sorry forgot /join
[03:00] <deemeetar> rickbol: Nothing
[03:00] <OpenSorce> anyone who may have been here yesterday... I got the old transmeta proc tablet working
[03:02] <Guest60523> admin
[03:02] <marcio> wowww i like this lubuntu! thanks a million guys!
[03:04] <tomreyn> :) enjoy marcio. and still consider buying more RAM (replace your memory chip) or a new computer.
[03:04] <OpenSorce> marcio,  lubuntu is pretty nice
[03:04] <rickbol> deemeetar: what, if anything, is returned for: "lsmod | grep mac802"
[03:04] <marcio> man you guys are so awesome, putting up with a noob like me
[03:04] <marcio> it is!
[03:04] <marcio> tomreyn i think i will get some more
[03:05] <marcio> is there a way in lubuntu to have just a normal background without any icons and just a normal wallpaper?
[03:05] <tomreyn> marcio: in the meantime you could try this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRam
[03:05] <Dranemra> Allo.. I have an odd question about Flash & Ubuntu
[03:05] <IAS> im ready for black ops two
[03:06] <deemeetar> rickbol: Nothing is retturned.
[03:06] <nathaneltitane> does anyone know the command used to fade the screen to black before enabling the screen saver mode??
[03:06] <rickbol> deemeetar:  what OS are you running?
[03:06] <Dranemra> I can't get rid of the Adobe Flash Player Settings box in Chromium or Firefox
[03:07] <IAS> lets face it guys
[03:07] <deemeetar> rickbol: elementary os luna ... which is based of ubuntu 12.04(basicaly reskinned ubuntu)
[03:07] <IAS> theres no PC anymore
[03:07] <marcio> tomreyn, i read the article, so is this zram an app?
[03:07] <IAS> MC is the new word.
[03:07] <deemeetar> rickbol: but had the same problem on ubuntu 12.04 11.10 11.04
[03:08] <IAS> UEFI mothers
[03:08] <tomreyn> marcio: the package to install is zram-config
[03:08] <tomreyn> marcio: available since ubuntu 12.04
[03:08] <IAS> means u cant install ubuntu on ur personal new pc or laptop
[03:08] <IAS> u wanna know why?
[03:08] <nathaneltitane> does anyone know the command used to fade the screen to black before enabling the screen saver mode??
[03:09] <IAS> new win 8 system come with uefi
[03:09] <IAS> that means no bios and no dvd/rw boot.
[03:09] <marcio> tomreyn i forget the command to install, like i mentioned, mega noob lol
[03:09] <svm_invictvs> !ppl
[03:09] <IAS> suck on that fellas
[03:09] <svm_invictvs> bah
[03:10] <deemeetar> marcio: apt-get
[03:10] <tomreyn> marcio: sudo apt-get install zram-config
[03:10] <svm_invictvs> !ppa
[03:11] <IAS> my guess is this chan will be gone a year from now
[03:11] <marcio> heres another question, when i run these install commands, where am i downloading and installing these apps from? is there like a central ubuntu server servicing all these apps?
[03:11] <brzJunior> Hi, how do i clean "search and replace" historic in GEDIT on Ubuntu
[03:11] <brzJunior> ?
[03:12] <IAS> PC is now MC bitches!
[03:12] <[TiZ]> I'm sure HDMI issues are super common, but I've got one. I'm on a laptop with intel graphics, don't have any audio over HDMI. PulseAudio recognizes that there is an HDMI device. It's not muted according to the dialog. So, what do I do?
[03:12] <tomreyn> IAS: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:12] <IAS> tomreyn: lol
[03:12] <tomreyn> this is not a discussion but a support channel
[03:13] <IAS> off topic what?
[03:14] <IAS> the geek society is already screweed and u guys are still cheering
[03:15] <rypervenche> IAS: The fact that you have to come here to tell us that says otherwise. Take it elsewhere please.
[03:15] <[TiZ]> Go away, kid. We're trying to get stuff done.
[03:16] <IAS> sure. slowly die instead.
[03:16] <IAS> the fact.
[03:16] <[TiZ]> I kind of want to see the logs to see what he was ranting about, lol. But that's neither here nor there...what is here is hdmi audio.
[03:16] <phillijw> Can anyone please help me get my mouse configured? Do I have to have an xorg.conf or is that the old way of doing it?
[03:17] <phillijw> [TiZ]: I know, I just tried to scroll up on my mouse before remembering why I was here... scroll isn't working
[03:17] <[TiZ]> What are some known fixes regarding audio over HDMI?
[03:19] <graingert> phillijw: do you have an xorg.conf ?
[03:19] <tomreyn> phillijw: normally you shouldn't need to edit xorg.conf, i've never heard fof this being neccessary in the past years.
[03:19] <graingert> phillijw: and what's your mouse?
[03:19] <phillijw> graingert: no, not yet. I was hoping to avoid having to shut everything down to get one though
[03:19] <tomreyn> (not to make basic mouse functions work, that is)
[03:19] <graingert> phillijw: you can killx and start it again
[03:19] <phillijw> My mouse is a Logitech mx510 which requires some fancy button mappings
[03:20] <graingert> phillijw: and you might be able to xmove all your windows to an xvfb
[03:21] <[TiZ]> Attempting to play audio over the correct plughw device for my HDMI results in... nothing. There are no errors, but there is also no sound.
[03:21] <graingert> phillijw: then xmove them back again
[03:21] <skpl113> can someone help me? i am trying to use unetbootin to install ubuntu from a usb drive but i get the following: error: no such partition, must load kernel first
[03:23] <tomreyn> phillijw: are you saying the scroll wheel or scroll buttons are not working?
[03:24] <phillijw> tomreyn: precisely. I just need to set up my mouse. I'm assuming xorg.conf is still the proper way to do it but I know xorg has changed a bit recently so I wasn't sure
[03:24] <tomreyn> phillijw: i was hoping for you to answer one or the other, scroll wheel OR scroll buttons do not work.
[03:25] <tomreyn> phillijw: which ubuntu version are you on?
[03:26] <phillijw> tomreyn: well scrolling was working until I tried to get the other buttons to work. 12.10
[03:27] <tomreyn> phillijw: i guess you do need to edit xorg.conf - try this (written for 11.10, but i guess it still works) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1959110
[03:27] <skpl113> can someone help me? i am trying to use unetbootin to install ubuntu from a usb drive but i get the following: error: no such partition, must load kernel first
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> skpl113, So what was the usb formatted as?
[03:28] <wolfman2000> Evening. I wish to have a way so that when I run a program with arguments, that that program and argument combination cannot have a second instance while the first instance exists. I would like this to apply no matter how many people are logged in to that user at the time (including duplicate login/terminal shells). Is there a clean way to do this?
[03:28] <tomreyn> phillijw: more but older docs here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX510Mouse
[03:28] <phillijw> alright, well I guess I'll need to close down my windows so I can get an xorg.conf
[03:28] <anon9002> Anyone knows how to partition a 4K sector HDD with BusyBox fdisk?
[03:28] <phillijw> so i'll be back, eventually
[03:29] <tomreyn> phillijw: you cnan edit it now, just need to restart to apply
[03:29] <tomreyn> restart X, that is
[03:29] <phillijw> I don't have one to edit though :)
[03:29] <skpl113> wilee-nilee: it was formated as fat32 but i couldnt mount it that way as the mount command said no such filesystem, i just reformatted it as ntfs, will mount recognize it?
[03:30] <phillijw> I have to run X -configure it looks like
[03:30] <tomreyn> phillijw: you can just create one
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> skpl113, What OS are you doing this in?
[03:30] <phillijw> tomreyn: how
[03:31] <tomreyn> phillijw: using the text editor of your choice
[03:31] <sid|1> what are the chances of GRUB braking if i repartition to the left
[03:31] <phillijw> tomreyn: won't I be missing key pieces of it?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, To the left?
[03:31] <sid|1> ya
[03:31] <phillijw> I certainly do not have the xorg syntax memorized or anything
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> sid|1,The ?  is what do you mean
[03:32] <skpl113> wilee-nilee: ubuntu 10.4
[03:32] <sid|1> ok so some time ago i was trying to repartition
[03:32] <sid|1> make my win8 partition smaller
[03:32] <sid|1> and make my linux partition bigger
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> skpl113, Just unplug it and plug it in you want a fat32
[03:33] <sid|1> so i had to shrink win8's partition to the left and expand linux's partition to the left
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, To the left could mean several things can you be exact.
[03:33] <sid|1> and when i tryed to do that it said GRUB might
[03:33] <sid|1> hrm lemme find an example
[03:34] <phillijw> The example I'm reading for setting up an xorg.conf is telling me to run X -configure using a root terminal. I obviously can only use sudo.... is that what I need to do?
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, Ah I see now, that should not be a problem other then having to reload the mbr to boot sometimes.
[03:34] <sid|1> heres hat i was trying to do
[03:34] <skpl113> wilee-nilee: ubuntu 10.4.4 is what im trying to install, the os i'm in is crunchbang
[03:34] <sid|1> https://www.dropbox.com/lightbox/home/Public
[03:34] <sid|1> oops
[03:35] <sid|1> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29235534/20120922_165906.jpg
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> skpl113, WE can't help with crunchbang, but I would just upnplu it and plug it in to mount it normally, if crunch will do that.
[03:36] <sid|1> wilee-nilee:  did you see the pic?
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, You want to run those separately, gparted may resize and you will have overlapping partitons that is not good.
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, never load up gparted like that
[03:37] <sid|1> so do them seperately
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, Yes sir!
[03:38] <sid|1> what do you mean never load gparted up like that?
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, gparted may not resize exactly when you do that many, with loading up I mean have so many things run one after another.
[03:39] <sid|1> so do them step by step
[03:39] <sid|1> so resize windows first
[03:39] <sid|1> then reboot
[03:39] <sid|1> and resize linux?
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, No reboot needed, it iks just haveing partitions move up against each other like that is asking for trouble consecutively
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> is*
[03:40] <sid|1> oh ok ty
[03:40] <sid|1> will do soon
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, If any of those are W7 I would use its disk manager to do it. Much faster and safer, use gparted for thr linux
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> the*
[03:42] <sid|1> i have win 8
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, same thing with W8 let it resize itself
[03:42] <sid|1> and isnt disk manger IN win8
[03:42] <sid|1> so i would have to go into windows to open the app
[03:43] <sid|1> causing the hdd to be mounted
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, I'm not sure I would assume it has a disk manager in the admin account, I have a clone of it I had the release installed but it crashed a couple of times I can't have that while writing grad papers.
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, Windows has a virtual partitoner since at least W7, it is fast and safe, yes it runs while mounted
[03:45] <sid|1> wilee-nilee:  ive had bad experiences while using disk manager in win8
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, THen do what you think feels right, personally I use gparted to make all my partitions before I install, with windows this leaves out the boot partition, which I don't want myself.
[03:47] <phillllijw> How the heck do I boot into recovery mode? I hit shift a million times when booting up
[03:47] <phillllijw> Do I even have grub?
[03:47] <marcio> hi friends im back, i have a quick question, how can i find out what version of lubuntu i am currently running?
[03:48] <phillllijw> marcio, top right corner of the screen has a power icon with an "about" button in it
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> phillllijw, Did ou change the time out in grub
[03:48] <phillllijw> wilee-nilee, what?
[03:48] <phillllijw> wilee-nilee, no, it's basically a fresh install
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> phillllijw, so if you do nothing on powering on what happens?
[03:49] <phillllijw> wilee-nilee, it boots into the login screen
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> phillllijw, Of what
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> some dual boot is why I ask
[03:49] <phillllijw> wilee-nilee, Just ask if I dual boot man... its the ubuntu login screen
[03:49] <marcio> excellent! thanks! and how do i change my desktop in lubuntu? i want a plain wallpaper with no icons but all i have is icons
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> phillllijw, Welcome to my ignore, I'm not keen of irritants.
[03:51]  * phillllijw cries
[03:51] <blackshirt> wilee-nilee, something bad to talk to others
[03:52] <marcio> wilee i told you i was new, i apologized 100 times for all my questions
[03:52] <marcio> and i kept thanking all of you who helped me
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> marcio, I was only talking to the user who snapped at me, it gets tiresome.
[03:52] <phillllijw> <---
[03:53] <marcio> oh goodness i thought i was the irritant :\
[03:53] <marcio> so do you guys know of any way to change the background on lubuntu 12.10?
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> I don't care about being thanked, just some holier the though when being helped is a big red flag
[03:53] <phillllijw> Is this page updated for 12.10? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> then*
[03:57] <psusi> phillllijw, you hold down shift to get the grub menu if it is normally hidden
[03:57] <phillllijw> psusi, hold down? Hmm... that page says to "press" -- might be misleading
[03:58] <phillllijw> i'll give her a shot
[03:58] <phillllijw> that didn't work
[03:58] <marcio> all the screenshots i see for lubuntu show it with a clean desktop whereas mine is all icons, any ideas on how to change it? i already looking through look and feel and desktop settings, no dice
[03:59] <phillllijw> oh... I have to do it before the bios finishes loading
[03:59] <phillllijw> interesting
[04:00] <psusi> phillllijw, you have to do it once the bios hands off to grub
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> marcio, here is a background link, I will look for the reonve icons link next
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68742/how-do-i-change-my-wallpaper
[04:00] <psusi> you can also just repeatedly tap on the arrow keys to scroll the menu up/down
[04:02] <phillllijw> awesome. Got to the root shell prompt. Bingo
[04:02] <marcio> wilee i already saw that, i googled it too, but it doesnt change my actual desktop which has icons everywhere
[04:03] <marcio> i changed my wallpaper but it wont display
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> marcio, post 4 here kind of gives you the lowdown on gui's and lubuntu. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1875024
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> marcio, Some things have to be done from text files, so you want to search on the web with exact dicriptions to find the info sometimes, it is a great desktop for someone in your position, but a little tricky to understand, and lower on the support as well. There is a #lubuntu channel but it has like 60 people there.
[04:08] <marcio> hmm yeah the guy in that thread is asking what im asking but neither of the solutions are working
[04:08] <marcio> perhaps its a 12.10 thing?
[04:09] <Guest56826> i'm  trying to install  drver  for  my DVB-S2 and its dosent wor
[04:09] <FroMaster> Any pointers on installing Wordpress on 12.10? Looks like things changed from 12.04 and not all the docs/scripts got updated
[04:09] <Guest56826> driver**
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> marcio, could be I haven't used lubuntu much, but found it fairly easy to work with, but I have been using linux for awhile.
[04:11] <marcio> like all the screenshots i see have clean empty desktops and thats what i want, m
[04:11] <marcio> my eesktop looks like a PDA from 1990
[04:11] <psusi> wilee-nilee, your name isn't Willie Nial is it?
[04:11] <juniour> hi
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> psusi, Hehe is that a real person?
[04:11] <psusi> wilee-nilee, yea, if I remember correctly
[04:11] <juniour> hi how can i change the position of icon in launcher
[04:12] <Guest56826> hello
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> psusi, Nope it is not me, my real name is not attched to this nick.
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> attached*
[04:12] <juniour> hi how can i change the position of icon in launcher
[04:13] <Guest56826> anyone  can help in drivers Issu
[04:13] <Guest56826> ?
[04:13] <phillllijw> when I run "X -configure" I get fatal server error: Could not create lock file in /tmp/.tXO-lock
[04:14] <phillllijw> lightdm is not running so when I try to stop it, it can't find anything to stop
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> juniour, In unity you can click ands hold some icons and drag them off the left panel and reposition them.
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> and*
[04:15] <_DanN_> phillllijw: permission problem ?
[04:15] <phillllijw> _DanN_, I'm root
[04:15] <_DanN_> phillllijw: I assume your /tmp exists ... ?
[04:16] <phillllijw> _DanN_, yeah it appears so
[04:16] <juniour> got it thanks
[04:16] <_DanN_> phillllijw: can you paste whole output to /query ?
[04:17] <phillllijw> _DanN_, I can type it... I'm on a 2nd machine :)
[04:17] <_DanN_> phillllijw: hehe ... just read through whole output and try to find something meaningful
[04:17] <BabySuperman> I can't seem to get my server to accept more files, I get "Too many open files" even though I've added limits to /etc/security/limits.conf and added the session thing to pam blah blah.... What else could I be doing wrong?! -- I reset my server and ulimit -a says im back at 1024 max files....  i added * - nofile 65536
[04:18] <juniour> i got recycle bin named folder in my drive its a virus how to remove it
[04:18] <juniour> i delete but i came aftera while
[04:18] <Guest56826> hello
[04:18] <Guest56826> anyone free to help  ?
[04:19] <_DanN_> Guest56826: what's your question ?
[04:19] <phillllijw> _DanN_, http://pastebin.com/7GbfmF3b
[04:19] <Guest56826> about
[04:19] <Guest56826> Driver
[04:19] <Guest56826> DVB-S2
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> juniour, What are you running, there are no virus's on the web for linux basically.
[04:20] <_DanN_> phillllijw: /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? anything in there ?
[04:20] <_DanN_> Guest56826: type your question
[04:20] <_DanN_> Guest56826: you won't get any person assigned ;)
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> juniour, Rootkits are about it.
[04:20] <marcio> i just installed ubuntu tweak, maybe that will help me, how do i actually run the program? i cant find it on the desktop or the start menu
[04:21] <Guest56826> when i'm opem  me tv  its telling  me  "There are no DVB devices available"
[04:21] <juniour> wille-nilee virus is a set of instruction i tcan be any where
[04:21] <Guest56826> I'm  just  dont know  how to post my question
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> juniour, Hehe I know what a virus is, there are none on the web that will run in linux.
[04:22] <_DanN_> Guest56826: how about type of the device, pastebin for dmesg or /var/log/syslog etc ?
[04:22] <_DanN_> Guest56826: just SOMETHING ;)
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> you can carry them though and infect a OS that will juniour
[04:23] <juniour> mmay be
[04:23] <juniour> i got from form windows
[04:24] <juniour> wilee-nilee Linux malware includes viruses, trojans, worms and other types of malware that affect the Linux operating system. Linux, Unix and other Unix-like computer operating systems are generally regarded as very well-protected, but not immune, from computer viruses.
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> juniour, I will agree to disagree. ;)
[04:25] <phillllijw> _DanN_, looks fine to me for the most part... last line says Server terminated successfully
[04:25] <juniour> wilee-nilee it is protected as virus didnt get the root access
[04:25] <Guest56826> http://pastebin.com/2rPRvj3w
[04:25] <_DanN_> phillllijw: any [EE] lines ?
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> juniour, It is not whether it can happen, it is that there are none know to be on the web, you mentioned a virus I commented on a virus.
[04:25] <overclucker> juniour: there's no way for a windows virus to infect linux.
[04:26] <juniour> yep agree
[04:26] <phillllijw> _DanN_, can you remind me how to grep for (EE)
[04:26] <_DanN_> phillllijw: grep "(EE)" /var/log/X...log
[04:27] <juniour> wilee-nilee you know about $recycle.bin virus
[04:27] <juniour> i know its fo windows
[04:27] <Guest56826> _DanN_ you go it  ?
[04:27] <_DanN_> Guest56826: what ?
[04:27] <phillllijw> _DanN_, 2 messages (both saying same thing): (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[04:28] <Guest56826> http://pastebin.com/5xfiMNGZ
[04:28] <jens_> hi
[04:28] <_DanN_> phillllijw: then there is a problem .. failing to load a module is causing server to crash
[04:28] <OerHeks> juniour, where did you find this recycle.bin, on a NTFS partition?
[04:28] <_DanN_> phillllijw: ati - I don't like them ;)
[04:29] <juniour> OerrHerks yep
[04:29] <phillllijw> _DanN_, I don't either... hand-me-down computer :)
[04:29] <OerHeks> juniour, then it is not a virus, just a sytem folder.
[04:29] <juniour> OerHeks I have dual boot of win and ubuntu
[04:29] <juniour> no it not in C drive
[04:30] <Guest56826> http://pastebin.com/5xfiMNGZ               " its the  dmesg output "
[04:30] <juniour> ya i know its a system folder it is in c drive but
[04:30] <juniour> it is in another drive
[04:30] <juniour> its in D
[04:30] <OerHeks> juniour, any ntfs partition has it, solved.
[04:31] <juniour> kkkk
[04:31] <_DanN_> Guest56826: well it's telling you : cx88[0]: Your board isn't known (yet) to the driver.  ....
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> I gots one in my D oh no.
[04:32] <Guest56826> yes
[04:32] <FroMaster> What the proper way to execute '/usr/share/doc/wordpress/examples/setup-mysql.gz' as the docs say 'sudo bash /usr/share/doc/wordpress/examples/setup-mysql' but the latest package has it as .gz
[04:32] <_DanN_> Guest56826: have you tried whatever is written there ?
[04:32] <Guest56826> i want  to  choose  on  on the  listed
[04:32] <Guest56826> but  its  wont  let  me
[04:32] <Guest56826> how  to   force  it
[04:32] <Guest56826> ?
[04:33] <_DanN_> Guest56826: kernel parameter ... this is what this thing is asking for
[04:34] <Guest56826> I'm  use  insmod card=86
[04:34] <Guest56826> insmod: can't read 'card=86': No such file or directory
[04:35] <_DanN_> Guest56826: ;-) man insmod as a 1st step
[04:35] <_DanN_> Guest56826: insmod <module_name> <params>
[04:36] <Guest56826> i  dont  know  what the  module name
[04:36] <Guest56826> I'm  new Linux  user
[04:36] <jameyhazey1> hello, is this the place to ask for help with issues after a ubuntu install?
[04:37] <KindOne> Yes.
[04:38] <jameyhazey1> cool.
[04:38] <jameyhazey1> I have an old dell latitude d610 that I've just installed ubuntu 12.10 onto, and now unfortunately it will not complete booting up. The screen flashes purple but then fades out and dies. I'm fairly sure there is an issue with graphics drivers, as I had to turn on "nomodeset" in the options when installing off a DVD to see the installer, but I'm very new to linux and don't know terribly much at all apart from what I've read on th
[04:38] <john77> hello everyone
[04:39] <john77> looking for advice regarding startup disk creator
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> jameyhazey1, You can use nomodeset in the kernel stanza to boot in to investigate drivers in the os
[04:39] <jameyhazey1> I have been able to hold down shift and bring up GRUB, and entered into recovery mode, and when I enter into the low graphics mode, the xserver log file says it can detect a screen but found none with a useable configuration, then goes on to say a fatal server error has occurred and no screen have been found at all, telling me to check a log file at "/var/log/xorg.0.log"  I have no idea how to check this specific log file!
[04:42] <john77> wondering whether startup disk creator can be used to create bootable usb stick for other debian-related distros such as mint, zorin and the like
[04:42] <jameyhazey1> @wilee-nilee  when I use no mode set i still get a black screen, so i am unsure how i can investigate said drivers...
[04:43] <overclucker> franzer: you can unpack it with gunzip and then run it, or pipe it to bash: zcat /usr/share/doc/wordpress/examples/setup-mysql.gz | sudo bash
[04:43] <Donnie_Darko21> helloo folks i just came up to say that it have a problem with the google earth 7 on ubuntu 12.04  dont start
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> jameyhazey1, There is no answer here to the suggestion here but probably worth trying. http://askubuntu.com/questions/164968/ubuntu-12-04-on-dell-latitude-d610-along-with-windows-7
[04:44] <overclucker> franzer: oops tab-fail, sorry about that
[04:47] <OMG_UbuntuServer> Hello
[04:47] <OMG_UbuntuServer> I install Ubuntu Server 12.04 on my system
[04:47] <OMG_UbuntuServer> and setting apm
[04:48] <OMG_UbuntuServer> I can connect guest > my server
[04:48] <OMG_UbuntuServer> but, my server can connet to internet
[04:48] <OMG_UbuntuServer> how can I solve this problem?
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> Donnie_Darko21, You install the lsb-core?
[04:49] <Donnie_Darko21> does someone install googleearth 7 ?
[04:49] <Donnie_Darko21> yes
[04:49] <Donnie_Darko21> already installed
[04:49] <jameyhazey1> wiee-nilee thanks for the link. i've already read this one and followed the instructions, but am given a choice of running in low graphcis mode for one session, reconfigure graphics or troubleshoot the error
[04:50] <OMG_UbuntuServer> Anyone?
[04:51] <jameyhazey1> or exit to console login. not too sure what to do from here
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> Donnie_Darko21, I see instructions on the web, you have probably have as well.
[04:52] <Donnie_Darko21> here is the crash log
[04:52] <Donnie_Darko21> http://pastebin.com/N5TbSJs6
[04:53] <jameyhazey1> if anyone could help me figure out which would be the best option to progress with from here. there is no startup error log which is weird.
[04:53] <organixpear> hello- I have an atheros ar9485 wireless chip inside an acer aspire one. Using the latest ubuntu released days ago every time the system reaches the desktop from a fresh boot after a few seconds the entire system locks up and i have to hold down the power key. if I actually open the laptop and remove the wifi card everything is great. i would definetly like to use my wifi though.
[04:57] <mingo> any recommendations on a PC laptop with great battery life? are Lenovos the way to go?
[04:57] <justaguest> ebay
[04:58] <isaac> Does anyone know why pulseaudio won't show any input devices? I think it might be using the wrong soundcard since the default in alsamixer was wrong, but I changed the default to the right one now and pulseaudio still doesn't show any microphones or input. Thanks in advanced :)
[05:00] <Donnie_Darko21> purging googleearth7
[05:00] <Donnie_Darko21> hope soon fix
[05:02] <jameyhazey1> a new user attempting to install some compatible graphics drivers with "nomodeset". computer is booting into low graphics mode but i am unsure how to proceed.
[05:02] <Narkon> install the drivers for your graphic card
[05:03] <jameyhazey1> narkon  i am unclear on how i can do this? my computer is refusing to display the login screen
[05:03] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: where do you get in the boot process?
[05:04] <elky> mingo, you're likely to get a better response for that from somewhere that's not a tightly focussed support channel, such as #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware
[05:05] <jameyhazey1> i see a purple screen, then the screen goes black but is still on. if i boot into GRUB the display works though...
[05:05] <onceagain> my compiz just crashed while I was running some data mining software in vmware and now I cant get my vmware to maximize/restore to my desktop. I will lose some progress if I have to terminate vmware. any suggestions?
[05:05] <wols> jameyhazey1: what videocard?
[05:05] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: what's your hardware?
[05:06] <jameyhazey1> an old dell latitude D610.
[05:06] <jameyhazey1> wikipedia tells me it has a Intel UMA integrated (915GM) and a ATI discrete (X300)
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> Donnie_Darko21, Yeah I removed the 6.2 and completely removed any google earth link on my computer and still could not get it to get past a flash of the first gui.
[05:08] <Donnie_Darko21> yep  ...
[05:09] <jameyhazey1> wols, narkon. could it be because of the dual cards that i might be having issues?
[05:09]  * ArchOpenBox Note remember to self not to use ATI card in Linux
[05:09] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: so you boot in grup, then add the nomodeset flag and you should get pass the login screen?
[05:09] <Narkon> grub*
[05:10] <Donnie_Darko21> soon  fix will come
[05:10] <jameyhazey1> narkon yeah i boot in grub, add the flag but I don't get the login screen. I get a "low graphics mode" instead.
[05:10] <Donnie_Darko21> wilee-nilee use the 6.2
[05:11] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: do you get to your desktop in low graphics mode?
[05:13] <jameyhazey1> narkon no, i cannot get to the login screen
[05:14] <jameyhazey1> narkon i get asked to either run in low graphics for one session, which ends up artifacting the screen and freezing, reconfigure graphics, troubleshooting the error or exiting to console login.
[05:14] <ArchOpenBox> Best way to highlight text in web browser and save txt?
[05:15] <abdostar> is it possible to pin an app(shortcut) to the desktop?
[05:16] <reptile4rmy> hmmm
[05:17] <ArchOpenBox> abdostar: When I use Cinnamon yes. I use kupfer for Unity and Gnome 3 and MATE.
[05:17] <alecb> I was helping a friend install ubuntu and I misunderstood some stuff about what he wanted for his partition sizes, and thought he wanted to shrink his windows partition to 100GB (he meant he wanted 100GB for ubuntu). so right now it's in the process of shrinking the partition, but the issue is he may have more than 100GB of data on it.
[05:18] <wols> jameyhazey1: why do you want to install special videodrivers in the first place?
[05:18] <abdostar> ArchOpenBox, thank you
[05:18] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: reboot, get to the grub screen, press F6 and make sure nomodeset is set, then boot. Do you still get a black screen?
[05:19] <jameyhazey1> wols i simply assumed the ones that came with ubuntu were incompatable.
[05:20] <abdostar> what are the UI tweaks you do to new Ubuntu installation to make it better
[05:20] <wols> jameyhazey1: rething your assumptions. so what have you done to install drivers so far?
[05:20] <jameyhazey1> narkon i get to grub, but pressing f6 is not doing anything at all.
[05:20] <arunkumar413> hi, how to scan for installed OS on my system from grub 2
[05:21] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: hum yea, follow this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it/162076#162076
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, what is the actual problem?
[05:21] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: go to the Black/purple screen after you boot Ubuntu for the first time" section
[05:21] <jameyhazey1> wols. i haven't done anything yet since i can't get to a useful stage yet! haha
[05:22] <wols> jameyhazey1: so you get the low graphics message immediately after installing ubuntu?
[05:22] <ArchOpenBox> abdostar: Lots of tweaks to many to list right of the bat.
[05:22] <wols> if so, press ctrl+alt+f1, log in and check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:22] <wols> arunkumar413: grub2 has a "help" command IIRC
[05:22] <jameyhazey1> wols. no, only after adding the nomodeset flag in grub. if i don't add the flag the screen just boots to purple flash and black
[05:23] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: i have installed 3 OS, window, ubuntu, fedora. formatted fedora drive from windows OS. now its entering into grub prompt after reboot
[05:23] <reptile4rmy> qqq
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, You can't format a linux drive from windows.
[05:23] <wols> jameyhazey1: remove the nomodeset and try to press ctrl+alt+f1 to get a prompt
[05:24] <wols> arunkumar413: what was the last OS you have installed?
[05:24] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: wols, fedora
[05:25] <magn3ts> wilee-nilee: uh what?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Did you make a flash drive install or a cd from windows is that what you meant?
[05:25] <magn3ts> wilee-nilee: oh, you mean format it to an extX fs?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> magn3ts, exactly
[05:25] <magn3ts> never mind, I just parsed it wrong probably
[05:25]  * magn3ts nods
[05:26] <jameyhazey1> narkon i have followed the instructions but that only gets me to the mow graphics menu where i get stuck
[05:26] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: installed fedora using cd. formateed the fedora from windows using disk management.
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, What type of partition?
[05:27] <wols> arunkumar413: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System
[05:27] <jameyhazey1> wols i have removed the flag and have tried crtl alt f1 but cannot get a prompt to show.
[05:27] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: i don't know what graphic menu you are talking about, what distribution and version are you running?
[05:27] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: i'm not able to boot to any OS. it's going to the grub command prompt
[05:28] <jameyhazey1> narkon ubuntu 32 bit desktop 12.10
[05:28] <wols> jameyhazey1: then I guess you have to put it in again. check for any /var/log/Xorg* files
[05:29] <jameyhazey1> wols. adding the nomodeset back gets be to low graphcs mode and i have a prompt up now
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, I would run the bootscript from a ubuntu live cd and post the text in a pastebin so we can see exactly whats up.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[05:30] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: but my cd/dvd drive is also not working. that's why i'm asked how to rescue  the OS from grub command prompt
[05:30] <wols> jameyhazey1: and you can check your Xorg.0.log files
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Or from the live cd use this app to just run the bootinfo summary to give us a url. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:31] <jameyhazey1> wols. sure, how would i go about doing that? :P
[05:31] <wols> by going to /var/log and looking at files?
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, HOw did you use a fedora cd to install then.
[05:32] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: i installed fedora from cd but after few days the the cd/dvd drive is not working
[05:33] <cowsquad> how do I set the scrollbar mode normal?
[05:33] <wols> arunkumar413: when you have a grub prompt, type "help"
[05:33] <jameyhazey1> wols. in the prompt? so i just write the directory i want to look at? I am new to linux and not very knowledgeable about unix commands etc
[05:34] <admin3920> hello...
[05:34] <admin3920> i'm new to linux and ubuntu.
[05:34] <admin3920> is it hard to setup file server using ubuntu?
[05:34] <wols> jameyhazey1: cd /var/log;ls Xorg*
[05:34] <wols> !samba | admin3920
[05:34] <arunkumar413> wols:i typed help, it showing some commands
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, If you know the ubuntu partition # you can manual boot to it then reinstall grub to the mbr from there. http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20How%20To%20Boot%20From%20CLI%20Mode.html
[05:35] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: you can try to install the ATI driver from the prompt like so : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:35] <cowsquad> #exit
[05:35] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: no idea about the partition. does update-grub command detect all my OS
[05:35] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: if it doesn't work, you'll have to purge it and try something else, gl
[05:35] <wols> Narkon: X300
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, The page tells you how to find it.
[05:36] <wols> jameyhazey1: which ubuntu version again?
[05:36] <jameyhazey1> 12.10
[05:36] <wols> then ignore what narkon wrote. he has no clue. fglrx won't support your videocard
[05:37] <wols> and the first thing to check is what videocard is actually used. alternatively you could disable/enable only a single one in BIOS if possible
[05:38] <admin3920> wols: thanks
[05:38] <admin3920> ubottu: thanks for info
[05:38] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: i don't know the partitions, i want grub to automatically detect all the OS
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, If you can't get a usb to boot from to get in rather then a cd you are probably going to have to manual boot in.
[05:39] <wols> arunkumar413: and I want a pony. neither of us will get his wants
[05:39] <wols> arunkumar413: as a hint, start with "ls"
[05:40] <wols> arunkumar413: and start to read documentation: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Command_002dline-and-menu-entry-commands.html
[05:40] <jameyhazey1> wols. k. so i entered the command you said and simply got it spat back out at me? lol.
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> wols, I'm imagining a magic pony for you. ;)
[05:40] <arunkumar413> wols: typed ls. it says command not recognised
[05:41] <wols> arunkumar413: what kind of grub shell do you have?
[05:41] <arunkumar413> wols: grub>
[05:42] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: it's true the fglrx won't support it but I this seems to be the way to solve it : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11361011&postcount=5 ; do the last 3 commands (ignore the sudo apt-get remove if you haven't installed it)
[05:42] <wols> Narkon: how do you know it will work with a hybrid graphics notebook?
[05:43] <wols> Narkon: also, the radeon driver is installed and used by default. but obviously it doesn't work so well for him
[05:43] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413: if u could boot from live usb drive.then u could reinstall grub from there
[05:44] <wols> arunkumar413: what version of fedora did you install?
[05:48] <jameyhazey1> narkon. wols. i ran the three commands there that you told me and the last one is saying that xorg server is not installed.
[05:48] <wols> jameyhazey1: sudo apt-get install xorg
[05:49] <wols> and all the things there you already have anyways
[05:49] <wols> or should have
[05:49] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: it's important to note that you need a live connection to the internet on your computer for apt-get to work
[05:49] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, is there a command in grub command prompt to detect all the OS
[05:50] <jameyhazey1> wols. yeah its saying 0 upgraded, newley installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:50] <wols> jameyhazey1: again: what Xorg* files are there?
[05:50] <jameyhazey1> narkon. wireless probably wouldn't be working then no? thats all i have at the moment but i could swap to wired
[05:51] <jameyhazey1> wols. the ones when i run that cd command?
[05:51] <wols> yes
[05:51] <SB_SP> hey guys
[05:51] <SB_SP> How to Run a Command on Startup
[05:52] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: http://web.cynd.net/~willo/ubuntu-12-10-upgrade-difficulties-with-an-ati-mobility-radeon-x300/  you could try that, seems like you have to edit /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf , change: options radeon modeset=1 (from 0 to 1) and then type command: update-initramfs -u
[05:52] <jameyhazey1> wols. it lists xorg.0.log, xorg.0.log.old xorg.failsafe.log and xorg.failsafe.log.old
[05:53] <clary> Hi Guys
[05:53] <SB_SP> anybody can  help whit what i ask up ?
[05:53] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413 ,http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm,read this may help
[05:54] <clary> I am getting connection failed activation of network connection failed
[05:54] <clary> when i am trying to get connetion on wireless
[05:54] <clary> in ubnutu
[05:54] <sakre> need to have sex tonight
[05:54] <wols> arunkumar413: how do you know he runs grub 1 ?
[05:56] <bazhang> sakre, wrong network. stop it
[05:56] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, used this command,
[05:56] <arunkumar413> root(hd0,0)
[05:56] <arunkumar413> makeactive
[05:56] <arunkumar413> chainloader + 1
[05:56] <arunkumar413> boot
[05:56] <FloodBot1> arunkumar413: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <SB_SP> How to Run a Command on Startup? guys common
[05:58] <overclucker> SB_SP: upstart
[05:59] <overclucker> !upstart | SB_SP
[06:00] <SB_SP> thx
[06:00] <clary> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328381/
[06:01] <overclucker> SB_SP: all the useful stuff is in http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[06:02] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413, if u could boot from usb pls try http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[06:03] <spectrus> Having trouble installing Ubuntu from LiveUSB. Hangs when trying to continue past selecting a wireless network.
[06:03] <reptile4rmy> v
[06:05] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, some how managed to get into the recovery mode menu of ubuntu. there is an option grub to update groub bootlaoder. if i select does this detect all my OS
[06:05] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413, yes.most times
[06:07] <wols> arunkumar413: you will need to reinstall grub, updating is not enough
[06:07] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, You should be able to boot into ubuntu from there, choose the top line to continue boot at the gui and use startx to get to the desktop
[06:07] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413, if the grub works is from ubuntu or you have to install from recovery mode
[06:08] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, selected update grub, its taking time
[06:14] <akis> any advise how could be permanent keyboard layout in xubuntu 12.04 with more than 1 user. any recommendation in ask ubuntu doesn't work. is it a bug?
[06:18] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, successfully booted into ubuntu. now how to update the grub so that all OS are displayed in boot menu
[06:19] <Aravind_geek> first install grub by 'grub-install devicename(sda1orhda1)'
[06:20] <Aravind_geek> then update all os installed with update-grub
[06:20] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, its grub2 in ubuntu
[06:21] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Is the HD sda run sudo fdisk -l to conform the HD, and I will give you the grub install command to the mbr.
[06:21] <wilee-nilee> confirm*
[06:22] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, wilee-nilee,  sorry it's grub in ubuntu
[06:23] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: its sda
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Cool run sudo grub-install /dev/sda   then sudo update-grub and you should be set.
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Some fedora versions need to be mounted to have it show in the grub update as well.
[06:25] <Phase> Setting a user's shell to nologin also prevents me from doing sudo su'ing into it, is there a way I can still prevent outside login but still access it with sudo su?
[06:25] <Phase> -doing*
[06:32] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, did update-grub but not showing os menu while booting. it's still going into the grub menu
[06:35] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413, did u installed grub as directed by wilee-nilee?
[06:35] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, yes
[06:36] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413,>>>it's still going into the grub menu. is to goes to grub prompt?
[06:36] <ASHER1> where i can find in ubuntu 12.04 all Package
[06:36] <ASHER1> ?
[06:37] <overclucker> ASHER1: all installed packages?
[06:37] <ASHER1> i want install something
[06:37] <ASHER1> and i no find
[06:37] <ASHER1> the packages
[06:37] <ASHER1> i using in ubuntu 12.04
[06:38] <Aravind_geek> ASHER1,hai write is a single sentence cant understood.
[06:38] <rahul_> hey
[06:38] <arunkumar413> aravind_geekm, i'll try it later. now my cd/dvd not detecting
[06:39] <overclucker> Phase: sudo -u username /bin/bash ?
[06:40] <Phase> hmm let me try
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, If you get into ubuntu again run the bootscript and save it to post here or in a thread at the ubuntu forum, the script will give a lot more info on your setup. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[06:41] <Phase> overclucker: That worked, ty :)
[06:42] <puff> I'm an HBO subscriber, I pay a ton of money every month to get cable premium channels.  HBO has been promoting the bejezus out of HBO GO, and google search results indicate I should be able to watch HBO GO on my ubuntu box... but when I actually open those search result pages, I get link farm spam.
[06:42] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413, Is it detected by Bios. not shown only in ubuntu.
[06:43] <Phase> puff, try navigating to hbo go from HBO's main website?
[06:43] <joe__> help
[06:44] <codemaniac> joe__: what with?
[06:44] <puff> Case in point, third gogle result from "hbo go on ubuntu" : http://www.webtopicture.com/hbo/hbo-go-ubuntu.html
[06:44] <Phase> puff: That's someones website on a google results page. That is not the actual website.
[06:46] <Phase> puff: http://www.hbogo.com/ Here is HBO Go's website.
[06:46] <overclucker> puff: http://www.webtopicture.com/hbo/hbo-dinosaur-ubuntu-popsicle.html
[06:46] <joe__> where am i?
[06:46] <puff> Phase: Yes, and hbo's hbo go page doesn't say anything about linux.
[06:46] <puff> overclucker: thanks.
[06:47] <Phase> puff: Then you need to blame those people with websites who claim you're able to watch HBO Go on linux, not Ubuntu itself.
[06:47] <puff> overclucker: Again, that URL is a link spam farm.
[06:47] <puff> Phase: I'm not blaming ubuntu, I'm quite aware of how spam works, I'm just asking for a pointer to a real ubuntu solution :-)
[06:48] <Phase> puff: Ahh, it didn't seem like that, sorry :)
[06:48] <puff> no sweat, I should have been more clear.
[06:49] <joe__> exit
[06:53] <overclucker> puff: have you tried using hbogo yet?
[06:56] <desu> Wow, no-one talking...
[06:57] <Phase> :o the horror
[06:57] <puff> overclucker: No, because I can't figure out what I'm supposed to download and install.
[06:57] <food> I am having same problem like http://askubuntu.com/questions/203465/ubuntu-12-04-12-10-keeps-on-freezing I need some help for preventing this kind of issue.My Ubuntu all windows , panel get ugly if it is continuing for more than 12 hours.
[06:58] <food> I installed KDE and removed compize some other Gnome application, xorg is perhaps up to date. Even i upgraded the Kernel to 3.4 . Still i am having this problem
[06:58] <food> So my laptop can't work for long time
[07:00] <m3pow> hello guys !
[07:00] <desu> hey
[07:00] <m3pow> any particular reason why disk access is a bit slow in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[07:00] <puff> m3pow: Hello.
[07:00] <desu> Is it really?
[07:01] <puff> food: I wish I had a good answer for you, but I'm still back on 11.4 (the previous LTS).
[07:01] <m3pow> since i've installed it
[07:01] <m3pow> 12.04.1 was way faster
[07:01] <puff> food: My only suggestion is, try a different window manager and see if you still have the problem.  If not, you've narrowed it down to the window manager.  Try "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[07:01] <desu> I loved 11.04, then my hard drive failed and I decided to upgrade...
[07:01] <OpenSorce> m3pow, ide or sata drive(s)?
[07:02] <m3pow> sata
[07:02] <m3pow> HDX18
[07:02] <OpenSorce> Could be a bug
[07:02] <m3pow> could be yes!
[07:02] <food> puff, I remove compize and installed kwine .... now my default GUI is KDE
[07:02] <m3pow> did not find any related issues on forums
[07:02] <desu> default gui is awesome for me...
[07:03] <food> puff, Can you give me the Download link of 11.04?
[07:03] <desu> x86 or x64?
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> food, 11.04 is end of life and not supported he meant 10.04
[07:04] <food> i see
[07:04] <food> puff, I think that is not problem of x-manager
[07:04] <Phase> I have the user bob's shell set to nologin, when I do sudo -u bob -s /bin/bash from my username, it puts me into MY home directory on the user bob.. adding -H doesn't help, any ideas?
[07:05] <food> puff, you had the same problem?
[07:05] <m3pow> thanks OpenSource
[07:06] <overclucker> Phase: this is you aren't simulating a login, and if you were, your login shell would be used (nologin)
[07:07] <rodayo> Is there a way to "pause" a large operation that's been running for a while? i.e. so i can resume it later?
[07:07] <rodayo> large copy operation*
[07:07] <desu> Phase: I can't help, but if you find a solution tell me?
[07:07] <nu11value> rlogin
[07:07] <desu> rodayo ^Z
[07:07] <desu> (CTRL+Z)
[07:07] <Phase> overclucker: Hmm, well maybe I should approach this from a different angle. I have a daemon I want to run from that user, but I don't want it to be accessible via normal login
[07:08] <Phase> desu: See my message to overclucker ^ I'm looking at different ways to tackle the problem
[07:08] <rodayo> desu, and to continue it later, just start it again?
[07:08] <desu> fg %<job number>
[07:09] <desu> "jobs" to check currently running processes
[07:09] <desu> rodayo: got it?
[07:09] <rodayo> neat, TIL
[07:09] <desu> TIL?
[07:10] <rodayo> today i learned
[07:10] <desu> Ah
[07:10] <Phase> it's a reddit thing
[07:10] <rodayo> Does it make a difference that it's running from a live usb?
[07:11] <overclucker> Phase: give it a shell, but don't set a password
[07:11] <Phase> overclucker: Actually, sshd has DenyUsers, I believe that would suitable enough for me
[07:11] <Phase> hm
[07:11] <desu> you can also run processes in the background by adding & at the end (e.x. chromium-browser &)
[07:12] <overclucker> Phase: no password means no login, other than from su
[07:12] <rodayo> desu, actually the more important question, does it get saved after you shutdown the machine?
[07:12] <rodayo> guessing no?
[07:13] <desu> rodayo Can you provide an example?
[07:13] <Phase> overclucker: That seems to have worked, thanks
[07:14] <Phase> desu: The solution I have working (thanks to overclucker) is giving the user a shell, but stripping a password from it so it can't login.
[07:14] <desu> rodayo Nevermind, bit of a brainfart, no you can't continue the process even after shutdown. Unless you dumped your memory into a storage device, then remounted it to memory after reboot.
[07:14] <rodayo> desu, my windows boot stuff got messed up but i can mount into it on a liveusb and grab the files. there's abotu 300GB that i'm transfering to a NAS...but it's a really slow connection 1.9MB/sec so i wanna pause it and restart tomorro
[07:15] <rodayo> i read about rsync, is that sorta what i'm looking for?
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, You know how to repair a windows boot? What windows release?
[07:16] <desu> probably, don't have any experience with rsync.
[07:16] <rodayo> i tried a few things: ntfsfix, ....uh i guess that was it actually
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, XP?
[07:17] <rodayo> sry, win7
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, You can rebuild the BCD if you have a install or recovery disc
[07:18] <rodayo> i can't say for sure that it's the boot that's broken. but gparted says the C:/ partition is corrupted
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, Is it showing as unallocated?
[07:18] <rodayo> i actually do not
[07:19] <rodayo> on boot up it says "could not find volume" or something like that and goes into a grub rescue prompt
[07:19] <rodayo> oh and i had it dual booting with ubuntu
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, YOu remove the ubuntu before this?
[07:20] <rodayo> no i can't boot into ubuntu either, normally grub brings up the option to choose which os i wanna boot into...
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, Did you try to get any help at the ubuntu forums?
[07:21] <rodayo> my plan is to copy the 300GB of data fromt he ntfs partition, keep it on the nas, do a clean new win8 install on this computer then copy them back
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> say with a bootscript
[07:21] <^_||_^> ahhhh the whales of ubuntu
[07:21] <rodayo> to the*
[07:21] <desu> Why win8?
[07:21] <^_||_^> I went back to Debian and I"m never leaving again
[07:22] <rodayo> i get a nice deal on it, kinda wanna try it out
[07:22] <Phase> ^_||_^: I use Win7 for desktop, and have 2 debian servers, 1 ubuntu server, and a centos server
[07:22] <desu> I'm on ubuntu, thinking of switching over to debian though, too much bloat I don't need on ubuntu.
[07:22] <Phase> I don't discriminate :D
[07:22] <desu> and unity...dear jesus
[07:22] <rodayo> desu, unity gets a bad wrap, i don't really mind it too much
[07:22] <rodayo> rap*
[07:22] <^_||_^> niceee Phase
[07:23] <desu> I don't discriminate either, but win8 seems like a terrible waste of time...
[07:23] <rodayo> some of the defaults of it are just plain bad design ideas
[07:23] <Phase> eh I'll switch to win8 when I get my hands on a box that came preinstalled with it
[07:23] <desu> rodayo, I tried it, I will admit it's not bad. But it's just not my cup of tea
[07:23] <rodayo> desu, yeah but i don't think it's unreasonable to wanna try it out right?
[07:23] <rodayo> ah i see
[07:24] <desu> I guess, but I would just try it on a virtual machine, see if it's actually worth it.
[07:24] <rodayo> im kind of a sucker for sleek and pretty UI, but nothing beats a linux prompt
[07:24] <desu> haha agreed.
[07:25] <Phase> meh I use Win7 basic
[07:25] <Phase> don't care for aero
[07:25] <rodayo> just reading about rsync, says i can just merge later and it'll only copy over files that don't exist
[07:25] <rodayo> hopefully it doesn't lag too long on the "check" process
[07:25] <Phase> rodayo: once you do rsync once to get everything done, if you run it again it'll just copy the changes over, yeah
[07:26] <rodayo> oh so i have to be using rsync to continue it later?
[07:26] <rodayo> cause right now it's a folder to folder copy with nautilus
[07:26] <desu> rodayo isn't that just the same as "mv -u"?
[07:27] <rodayo> rsync does network transfers too
[07:27] <Phase> rodayo: now that I don't know (about continue it later)
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, When you install W8 once all setup run the image backup and save it on a separate HD, and back up the rest as well, you would not have to do this recovery then.
[07:27] <rodayo> wilee-nilee, good call, i'll remember to do that
[07:28] <unsobill> any1 installed QEMU on unbuntu ?
[07:28] <unsobill> latelay ?
[07:28] <unsobill> errday errday
[07:30] <desu> Out of curiosity what are your preferred irc clients?
[07:30] <rodayo> anyway, phase, desu, willee, thanks for the help. have a good night or morning of one of the other ones =P
[07:30] <desu> night...
[07:31] <Phase> one of the other ones
[07:31] <Phase> lol
[07:31] <newps> Hi. My wireless getup doesn't seem to be loaded in Ubuntu when I boot up for the first time; I always need to start in Windows before it works in Ubuntu. Any idea what's going on?
[07:32] <desu> I don't think I properly understand the question.
[07:33] <iylea> /c/c
[07:34] <desu> "/c/c"?
[07:34] <ix_> what options are there for youtube viewing without flash? I know of youtube-dl and minitube, any other?
[07:35] <Phase> html5
[07:35] <Phase> youtube.com/html5
[07:35] <ix_> I know that one too
[07:35] <ix_> but not all videos play on html5
[07:35] <Phase> hmm
[07:35] <Phase> well
[07:35] <Phase> nsfwyoutube.com, but with ads
[07:35] <Phase> lol
[07:35] <ix_> I mean a program for ubuntu
[07:35] <Phase> ah
[07:35] <ix_> to see youtube
[07:35] <Phase> got me there
[07:35] <belal122> what is obottu.com ?
[07:36] <belal122> did they mispell ubuntu?
[07:36] <Phase> technically theres also http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/<video id>, I might write a program that wraps around that..
[07:37] <desu> doesn't youtube natively allow viewing of content with just html5?
[07:37] <Phase> not sponsored videos
[07:37] <newps> desu: Basically, my modem doesn't work until I boot in Windows first. It doesn't detect wlan0
[07:37] <Phase> videos that that partners have included ads on
[07:38] <desu> well if you use chromium and adblockplus there's no problem with ads and what not is there?
[07:38] <Phase> No, but I don't know if youtube would see that and still allow it to work on html5 :P
[07:39] <Phase> I don't have a ubuntu desktop up anywhere right now or I'd test real quick
[07:39] <desu> newps: I don't think I can help you  there sorry. but have you tried "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" at startup?
[07:39] <Phase> If ubuntu isn't recognizing it, my brain tells me driver issue
[07:40] <desu> I had some minor issues with an old laptop and that worked for me.
[07:40] <newps> I'll try that next time
[07:40] <newps> Usually I just reboot into Windows and restart again
[07:40] <desu_> lol
[07:40] <desu_> I left without leaving, yay me!
[07:40] <newps> Phase: Assuming it's driver issues, what do I do to force Ubuntu to detect it?
[07:41] <Phase> newps: This is where I'm stuck, sorry
[07:41] <Phase> I haven't really done much with a desktop install of linux/ubuntu in 2 or so years
[07:41] <desu_> well what hardware is it?
[07:43] <newps> It's integrated hardware
[07:43] <newps> sudo lshw -C network doesn't reveal any names
[07:43] <desu_> use hwinfo?
[07:43] <ms_choudhary_200> hi, I am using ubuntu since last 3 months on sony vaio vpceh25. Sometimes, my touchpad stops working, though Keyboard still works. It's not the problem of touchpad.neither the clicks or pointer works.how can I fix this?
[07:45] <rigo> hi
[07:46] <rigo> is there something between the "netinst" and the "full with ubuntu desktop" iso? so i would need a minimalist install but dont want to download all the packages every time i install ubuntu.
[07:46] <Phase> rigo: Not that I'm aware of
[07:46] <desu_> isn't that just the server version?
[07:47] <desu_> server is pretty minimalistic
[07:47] <Phase> rigo: Honestly, I would download the desktop release once and hang onto it incase you need to reinstall
[07:47] <Phase> since you don't want to have to redownload all the various packages, etc.
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> rigo, the net is the base install you will have a choice of servers and desktops to choose from.
[07:48] <rigo> can i add the install disk as repository?
[07:48] <rigo> once i had a debian release was a minimalist installation but it was 4 dvd large with lot lot of packages
[07:49] <Phase> the debian netinst iso is incredibly tiny last time I used it
[07:49] <Phase> was*
[07:49] <Phase> I suck at words when it gets to be this late -_-
[07:49] <rigo> ubu netinst is 24mb either.
[07:50] <rigo> i just feel wasting my time with the download.. i reinstall my system regulary to find the best minimalist installation for me
[07:51] <rigo> BUT if i could find out how to backup (and than restore) the whole system easy i wouldnt need such thing
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> rigo, The net install is the best way to get a minimal install of ubuntu if that is what you are looking for.
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> rigo, Clonezilla ia a easy cloning tool.
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> is*
[07:52] <Phase> I second that clonezilla statement
[07:52] <aali83> hi guys
[07:52] <newps> Model: "WLAN network interface"
[07:52] <newps> Lol
[07:52] <Phase> My computer-illiterate sister likes to get viruses every other week
[07:52] <Phase> backup photos + other minimal data, deploy clonezilla
[07:52] <Phase> done
[07:52] <Phase> :D
[07:52] <desu_> Phase how old is she?
[07:53] <Phase> 20
[07:53] <Phase> one time I told her if she did it again I would install Ubuntu on it
[07:53] <Phase> she did it again
[07:53] <Phase> I installed ubuntu on it
[07:53] <desu_> ...She should know better by now.
[07:53] <Phase> lol
[07:53] <FloodBot1> Phase: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:53] <throwed54> My muther has gotten my dad viruses on his w7 install by browsing knitting pattern sites
[07:53] <Phase> sorry FloodBot1 <3 u
[07:53] <Phase> desu_: Yes she should.. but ah well
[07:53] <aali83> I am getting the following error when i try to do install any package    E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:54] <Phase> I would make a fortune off of her if I even charged half of what best buy does for virus cleanup
[07:54] <Phase> lol
[07:54] <Phase> but I don't charge family for anything like that
[07:54] <throwed54> She's your sister. You love her.
[07:54] <Phase> yep
[07:54] <aali83>  tried the following command sudo dpkg --configure -a but it did not work
[07:54] <Phase> aali83: error message?
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> Phase, If you enable them they wont learn.
[07:55] <desu_> I'm actually considering getting a job at Best Buy or Staples to rob people for their computer illiteracy.
[07:55] <Phase> wilee-nilee: When she gets a computer again I already plan on teaching her how to avoid shady sites, etc.
[07:55] <Phase> probably use that Web of Trust addon, looks interesting
[07:55] <rigo> wilee nilee thanks
[07:55] <throwed54> desu: would be nice if you were a commissione dofficer
[07:55] <throwed54> *commisioned officer
[07:56] <desu_> haha
[07:56] <aali83> Phase, it tries to install Beef automatically when i try to install a package and gives me the following error message:    dpkg: error processing beef (--configure):
[07:57] <desu_> anyone know a good place to further myself as a python programmer?
[07:57] <Phase> I wish I could grasp python.. I can't for some rason
[07:57] <Phase> reason*
[07:57] <Phase> php.. not so bad
[07:57] <Phase> python.. :|
[07:57] <desu_> byr it's so simple D:
[07:57] <desu_> but &
[07:58] <Phase> I will eventually
[07:58] <Phase> lol
[07:58] <desu_> I have a feeling I'm one of the younger members of this irc server...
[07:59] <Phase> I've been using IRC since I was 10-11, so I know how you feel on that
[07:59] <desu_> Now the question is: When is 'eventually?'
[07:59] <Phase> desu_: Soon, got laid off at work, so I'll have some freetime..
[07:59] <desu_> Tough man..
[08:00] <Phase> mhmm
[08:00] <Phase> not too stressed about it
[08:00] <desu_> Why's that?
[08:00] <Phase> it's just crap temporary work at a warehouse
[08:00] <desu_> Ah I see.
[08:01] <desu_> I'm personally freeloading off my parents until I go off to college at some point.
[08:01] <Phase> lol
[08:01] <Phase> how old are you if I may ask?
[08:01] <asmita> exit
[08:02] <desu_> 17, but I dropped out of High School(because of illness)
[08:02] <desu_> So I can't help but feel like a burden.
[08:02] <Phase> ouch, yeah
[08:02] <Phase> are you in the U.S.? get your GED
[08:03] <desu_> I'm in the process, I have to wait for January to come around due to a long waiting list at my local testing center.
[08:03] <Phase> yep, know that feeling too.. I have my GED
[08:04] <Phase> I got lucky though, just finished the classes (required in my state) and 2 weeks later managed to get a spot at the test location
[08:04] <Phase> It's not too difficult, just make sure you study :)
[08:05] <desu_> I have been.
[08:05] <Phase> Math was my lowest score I think
[08:05] <desu_> My time's been split between web-development on a site my mom wants to get started, MIT OCW, and programming.
[08:05] <Phase> MIT OCW?
[08:05] <desu_> Yea, great stuff.
[08:06] <Phase> what is that?
[08:06] <desu_> http://ocw.mit.edu
[08:06] <desu_> MIT has a bunch of free course content.
[08:06] <desu_> Great stuff.
[08:06] <Phase> oh cool
[08:06] <desu_> mhm
[08:06] <Phase> You may also like khanacademy.org and udacity.com too
[08:07] <desu_> I've heard of khan but never actually used it, udacity is new to me though.
[08:07] <Phase> I haven't used udacity, but it's similar to MIT OCW from what I've seen
[08:07] <desu_> off to scavenge pen and paper somewhere!
[08:07] <Phase> khan is amazing
[08:07] <Phase> I unfortunately discovered it a couple weeks after I took that test
[08:09] <newps> exit
[08:09] <newps> oops
[08:09] <newps> XD
[08:09] <Phase> lol
[08:09] <desu_> haha back in High School my teachers kept telling me to go on it and do stuff.
[08:10] <desu_> y for there to be a reason to go on there.
[08:10] <desu_> ummm...?
[08:10] <Phase> what?
[08:10] <Phase> lol
[08:10] <desu_> what happened to my sentence? D:
[08:10] <desu_> Anyway point is I never bothered going there.
[08:10] <Phase> yeah
[08:10] <desu_> Do they have advanced mathematics and logic lessons?
[08:10] <food> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2080089
[08:11] <Phase> desu_: They've talked about calculas and such, I'm not sure if they have any videos up of it yet
[08:12] <desu_> Apparently they have a couple hundred videos about calculus.
[08:13] <Phase> awesome
[08:13] <desu_> I will be doing this whenever I get back home.
[08:13] <OerHeks> food, do a memtest86, could be a memory problem
[08:13] <desu_> I've had to crash at my brother's thanks to poophead "hurricane" sandy
[08:14] <Phase> ouch, hope everyones alright there
[08:14] <desu_> Well NJ got hit pretty hard, but where I live there was just massive power outtages and a lot of downed trees.
[08:14] <desu_> I've been without power at my house for 5 days now :/
[08:15] <Phase> damn
[08:16] <food> OerHeks, Okay, Doing it right now!
[08:17] <tevus_> hello everybody
[08:17] <codemaniac> hi tevus
[08:17] <tevus_> im a beginner trying to make ubuntu work
[08:18] <tevus_> first of all the problem is that flash crashes
[08:18] <tevus_> d i think it is because i installed a youtube to mp3 program thingy
[08:18] <tevus_> anyone out there?
[08:18] <_Desu_> youtube to mp3 program?
[08:19] <tevus_> oh well, i realize that i dont have time now
[08:19] <tevus_> thank you and have a good day
[08:19] <_Desu_> ummm ok..
[08:19] <rigo> and what is the difference between 12.04 and 12.10 netinst? only that the .10 contains a newer kernel?
[08:19] <_Desu_> anytime I guess.
[08:19] <rsv> my ubuntu 12.04 had crashed, so i tried to re-install the ubuntu. it has overwritten my home directory. is there any way i can restore it
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, newer software versions.
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> rsv, if you reinstalled and didn't back up your /home directory, there's a very very slim chance of recovery.
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> this is why backups are awesome.
[08:20] <rsv> TheLordOfTime: i thought it will leave it
[08:20] <_Desu_> backups all day errday
[08:20] <rsv> TheLordOfTime: Please help me
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> rsv, not in a reinstall from scratch.  that'd only be an upgrade.
[08:21] <rigo> and sry for the stupid question, but can i install all the "old" softwares what i used on 12.04 to the 12.10?
[08:21] <TheLordOfTime> rsv, not sure i can, since i keep backups ;P
[08:21] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, some you can, some you can't, what old stuff did you need/want?
[08:21] <rsv> any software which scans the hd
[08:21] <rsv> and recovers files
[08:21] <rsv> any such software
[08:21] <rigo> xbmc, tvheadend, and a tiny desktop backup.
[08:21] <rigo> i use now lxde
[08:21] <TheLordOfTime> !enter | rsv
[08:21] <MestreLion> Guys, is it me or youtube is really down???
[08:22] <Jordan_U> rsv: There are photorec and others, but don't expect too much. How important is this data to you?
[08:22] <rsv> Jordan_U: it is my 3 years of work
[08:22] <rigo> and a GOOD ftp client, which i couldnt find 'till now.
[08:22] <stercor> I have a .tar file on a RAM stick. How do I extract it to a directory on my hard drive?
[08:23] <TheLordOfTime> stercor, uhh... on a RAM stick?
[08:23] <Jordan_U> rsv: Then if you're currently booted from said Ubuntu install, shut down now and do the rest of whatever you're going to do from a LiveCD.
[08:23] <stercor> USB drive?
[08:23] <Jordan_U> rsv: And please learn from this and keep good backups in the future.
[08:23] <jt1997> Would anyone be able to guide me through adding a Remote Desktop for Ubuntu 12.10?
[08:23] <rigo> any idee?
[08:23] <rsv> Jordan_U: what do i do now
[08:23] <rigo> jt1997 i use xrdp on 12.04
[08:24] <rigo> i sure hope it works with 12.10
[08:24] <jt1997> I updated to 12.10, and I would like to use the built-in feature.
[08:24] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, it should
[08:24] <Jordan_U> rsv: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[08:24] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, unless its not in the repos, but i think xrdp is.
[08:24] <rigo> xrdp is in
[08:24] <Jordan_U> rsv: First, as a quick check, please run "sudo blkid" and pastebin the output.
[08:24] <rigo> in the 12.04
[08:25] <MestreLion> jt1997: the built-in feature works fine... but it's a vnc server, and for your current session only
[08:25] <jt1997> What do you mean, "for your current session only" ?
[08:25] <rigo> sorry. i tought jt1997 looks for a server.
[08:26] <OerHeks> stercor, copy the file to your harddrive, open terminal:   tar xzvf <filename>.tar.gz
[08:26] <MestreLion> jt1997: it means you can't remotely log in
[08:26] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, its likely in 12.10 too
[08:26] <TheLordOfTime> !info xrdp quantal
[08:26] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, ^  its in quantal.  :)
[08:26] <rigo> gosh. thanks :)
[08:26] <MestreLion> jt1997: you must leave your computer running and logged in for the built-in remote to work
[08:26] <jt1997> Aah, I see.
[08:27] <jt1997> I would still like to set it up :)
[08:27] <Jordan_U> rsv: Did you understand my last comment?
[08:27] <rigo> nevermind. i have a fresh 12.04 installed with quantal kernel so i wait 'till i mess it up. :D
[08:27] <MestreLion> jt1997: i guess the set up is quite straightforward... just go to system settings and enable it
[08:28] <jt1997> Don't I have to do the configuration online?
[08:28] <jt1997> at https://uccs.landscape.canonical.com/edit/
[08:28] <rsv> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ca/2247853
[08:29] <MestreLion> jt1997: i've never seen this site. maybe this is a 12.10 thing?
[08:29] <TheLordOfTime> jtthat's only needed if you're using landscape for managing things
[08:29] <TheLordOfTime> jt1997, &
[08:29] <jt1997> So I can't access my data from it while on another computer?
[08:29] <TheLordOfTime> jt1997, you don't read then.
[08:30] <Jordan_U> rsv: Do you know why you have one ext3 partition and one ext4 partition? Do you have more than one GNU/Linux distribution installed?
[08:30] <TheLordOfTime> jt1997, you have to configure things in your system settings to allow remote
[08:30] <F-3000> Hello! I ran this nice problem that PC's (usb) wlan stopped finding modem once I switched video-card on it. Might anyone have any idea what's causing it, or know how to start troubleshooting what's wrong?
[08:30] <TheLordOfTime> jt1997, you don't have to configure landscape
[08:30] <MestreLion> jt1997:  go applications  >  desktop sharing > "allow others to view" > done :)
[08:30] <TheLordOfTime> and he just up and leaves.
[08:30] <rigo> let me know what is your suggestion to my case:
[08:30] <TheLordOfTime> *shrugs*
[08:31] <rsv> Jordan_U:  that is my boot partition
[08:31] <TheLordOfTime> rsv, ext4 works just as well ;P
[08:31] <TheLordOfTime> rsv, is your /boot leftover from something? ;P  (just saying)
[08:31] <rsv> yes
[08:31] <rigo> on the company network in my workplace i found only a few open ports. (3389 isnt open, mstsc.exe cant open my home desktop)
[08:31] <rigo> i have here xrdp installed i can log in with ssh tunnel rdp. but its damn slow
[08:32] <rigo> is there a faster way to reach my home desktop?
[08:32] <rigo> i need a desktop cause LOT of things are disabled by the proxy.
[08:32] <F-3000> Some networks are found, but not the one that's supposed to, and even some wlans that have high quality, are not shown on.
[08:32] <rsv> TheLordOfTime: my previous installation
[08:32] <rigo> lot i mean fb, the large mailing systems like yahoo, and everything what wit "webmail" begins... so pretty lol.
[08:33] <rsv> Jordan_U:  doesnt photorec replicate my entire /home user accounts
[08:33] <Jordan_U> rsv: No, it doesn't.
[08:33] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, sounds like you're wanting to bypass the proxy at your location to circumvent policies.
[08:33] <rigo> yes. it doesnt sounds like. it IS the thing :)
[08:34] <rigo> i wont break any laws with this as far as i know... :)
[08:34] <Jordan_U> rsv: You're not going to get all your data back, and you're certainly not going to get all your settings and configuration back neatly either. This is why you really need backups in the future. Boot from a LiveCD/USB and follow the guide I linked to to get back as much as you can.
[08:34] <aali83> Phase, i fixed the problem sudo apt-get -y install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:35] <rigo> the work i do is just boring. i have to work about 10x15seconds a hour you know.
[08:35] <itsme20121991> QUICK QUIZ, What happens when you type { $sudo exit } in terminal . (Don't check it on terminal now, just guess or reply the correct answer)
[08:35] <MestreLion> rigo: I suggest 2 approaches: install a VNC client at work, so you can use that protocol instead of rdp
[08:36] <rsv> Jordan_U: i mean the filenames
[08:36] <OerHeks> itsme20121991, wrong channel for your quiz, take it to #offtopic
[08:36] <rsv> Jordan_U:  the filenames appear as <some number>. <something>
[08:36] <rigo> yes the important thing is that i found out the local admin password for my computer there :))
[08:36] <F-3000> Could someone help? I ran to this nice problem that desktop's (usb) wlan stopped finding modem once I switched video-card on it. Might anyone have any idea what's causing it, or know how to start troubleshooting what's wrong? Some wlans are listed, but the one that's supposed to be found is not.
[08:36] <rigo> which port uses vnc?
[08:37] <rigo> cause i found only the port 81 open outher the "common" ports. nothing else..
[08:37] <rsv> let me reboot
[08:37] <mah454> Hello
[08:37] <MestreLion> rigo: by default? not sure, but you can ser a vnc server at home in any port
[08:37] <mah454> I need a book about Python And QT Programing . What is your idea ?
[08:37] <rigo> gr8
[08:38] <rigo> i just downloaded tightvnc for testing
[08:38] <MestreLion> rigo: you can even install it at port 80 if you want to
[08:38] <MestreLion> but your home ISP may block it
[08:39] <rigo> i dont think they will
[08:39] <MestreLion> your work will block most of the upper port, and your isp may block most of the lower ones... so you need to hunt for a port
[08:39] <MestreLion> rigo: most cable companies block incoming connections in ports like 80, 23, etc
[08:40] <rigo> hm
[08:40] <rigo> let's see what happens monday :)
[08:40] <MestreLion> precisely to prevent home users to install web servers at home
[08:40] <OpenSorce> Did something else replace StartUp-Manager?
[08:41] <kernelhacker> MestreLion, i am shocked overseas isp's still do that.
[08:41] <kernelhacker> i live australia. our isp's don't block that sort of stuff.
[08:41] <rigo> and what about ports 21-22-23?
[08:41] <MestreLion> rigo: that's ssh ? i think its open
[08:42] <MestreLion> you can check using shields up website
[08:42] <kernelhacker> 21=ftp 22=telnet 23=ssh
[08:42] <rigo> i know kernelhacker :)
[08:42] <kernelhacker> close them if you don't need them open.
[08:42] <rigo> i think either, cause i use it since august for accessing my home pc
[08:42] <MestreLion> 21 usually closed, telnet and ssh are open here, but i'd never install server there anyway
[08:42] <rigo> and remote desktop through ssh tunnel which is REALLY slow.
[08:43] <rsv> Jordan_U:  WHy doesnt photorec recover the filenames
[08:43] <rsv> Is there any tool which does that
[08:43] <bekks> rsv: Because the filenames were deleted.
[08:43] <bekks> rsv: No.
[08:43] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: well, the rationale is: home internet service is not for servers, because of the increased upload bandwidth. for that, you must pay for an enterprise service, which has fixed ip, etc etc
[08:44] <rsv> OKAY
[08:44] <kernelhacker> australians are lucky i guess.
[08:44] <ari__> n00b doubt. i got natty narwhal on a sort-of-a-server that i use to torrent and file server. the natty is no longer supported. is it vulnerable?
[08:44] <kernelhacker> i didn't realize we were that lucky.
[08:44] <bekks> rsv: To be correct: the inode content storing the filename in the directory content was overwritten.
[08:45] <kernelhacker> we just pay for whatever bandwidth for the month. they don't care what you use it for.
[08:45] <rsv> any ubuntu tool reads the directory blocks and recovers the files along with filenames
[08:45] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: are you sure? try shields p and see if they are really open... https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[08:46] <bekks> rsv: No. The content storing the filename was overwritten. It does not exist anymore.
[08:46] <rsv> bekks: okay
[08:46] <kernelhacker> incorrect. if it was overwritten it would not be recovered.
[08:46] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: you pay for bandwidth, but the naked truth is: if all users use all the bandwidth they can, most (or all) ISPs will collapse...
[08:46] <rigo> i cant connect to my htpc via vnc tightvnc
[08:47] <bekks> kernelhacker: Perfectly correct. The inode storing the NAME was overwritten.
[08:47] <bekks> kernelhacker: Thats what happens when deleting a file on ext[2|3|4] filesystem.
[08:47] <kernelhacker> :-)
[08:47] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: they offer 5, 10, 50mbps... but they don't except users to actually use that much... actually, they count on it
[08:48] <MestreLion> expect*
[08:48] <kernelhacker> are you talking about speed of connection or total bandwidth usage?
[08:49] <bekks> mbps indicates bandwidth.
[08:49] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: both. at least in Brazil, there is an upload/download month quota
[08:49] <MestreLion> if you pass that, they will limit speed
[08:49] <kernelhacker> everyone i know goes over quota every month. i do.
[08:49] <MestreLion> to something slow like 1mbps
[08:50] <MestreLion> do they charge you after quota? or do they limit speed?
[08:50] <kernelhacker> that's right. we get shaped too. but you can still use as much bandwidth quota as you want, regardless of the speed you get shaped to.
[08:50] <MestreLion> ok, same here
[08:50] <kernelhacker> some shape only. some shape and charge. some charge only.
[08:51] <kernelhacker> pay for what you get really.
[08:51] <kernelhacker> expensive here in AU though.
[08:51] <MestreLion> and your upload limit, both speed and kb, is usually MUCH smaller than download, correct?
[08:51] <OerHeks> some should pay extra, for chit-chat in a ubuntu support irc channel.
[08:51] <MestreLion> like 10x
[08:51] <kernelhacker> that's correct.
[08:52] <MestreLion> OerHeks: If anyone asks for support I'll gladly stop chat and help
[08:52] <kernelhacker> same here.
[08:52] <OerHeks> well, it is channel policy.
[08:53] <MestreLion> rigo: don't have to wait till monday... use a service like https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2  and see which ports are blocked by your ISP
[08:53] <trallallero> kkk
[08:54] <MestreLion> rigo: even if there are any, i'ts usually just a few...
[08:54] <bekks> rigo: Then check wether vnc is running, by using sudo lsof -i
[08:55] <kernelhacker> what port does vnc use?
[08:55] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: the default port is irrelevant, since his company's proxy will probably block it
[08:55] <kernelhacker> yeah was just curious.
[08:56] <kernelhacker> i never use vnc and was wondering.
[08:56] <MestreLion> google :P
[08:56] <bekks> MestreLion: We dont even know wether he uses a proxy or not.
[08:56] <milen8204> I can not read a cyrillic text they looks like that øàÿ âåðñèÿ äëÿ ë
[08:56] <MestreLion> bekks: he said so. his company has a very restrictive firewall
[08:56] <kernelhacker> MestreLion, that requires opening a browser. :-p
[08:56] <milen8204> anyone could help ?
[08:56] <mifritscher> hi
[08:57] <kernelhacker> hi mifritscher
[08:57] <MestreLion> milen8204: read them where? no all applications have unicode support
[08:57] <Aleksander> Hello. I've installed Ubuntu 12.10 and upgraded the system, and now for some strange reason after I login with LightDM there's no panel in Unity
[08:57] <Aleksander> just the desktop
[08:58] <lowlifer_> kernelhacker: i think it's 5900 and 5800
[08:58] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, alt+f2 and type r, press enter.
[08:58] <MestreLion> Aleksander: before you login, have you checked the default login session is Ubuntu and not something else?
[08:58] <kernelhacker> lowlifer_, thanks. odd ports.
[08:58] <mifritscher> how can i disable the automatic shutdown if "overhotting"? Ive the problem that the sensor goes straight from 50 to 127C sometimes, while the other sensors stay ok (its a thinkpad which have many sensors) - so I think that the sensor is defect
[08:59] <milen8204> MestreLion, sorry I forgot to say in libreoffice and text editor
[08:59] <Aleksander> MestreLion, yes
[08:59] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, F2 doesn't work
[08:59] <Aleksander> damn, 12.10 is the most broken distro I've ever seen.
[08:59] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, no f2?
[08:59] <kernelhacker> odd
[09:00] <MestreLion> Aleksander: don't say so before you try mint cinnamon with an ati 7xxx card :P
[09:00] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I know. I have reinstalled ubuntu, because previous one went mad after installing nvidia drivers on an nvidia optimus card
[09:00] <Aleksander> I couldn't undo that
[09:00] <Aleksander> even after manually switching to intel, Unity and gnome-shell didn't even start.
[09:01] <kernelhacker> should start at least.
[09:01] <Aleksander> doesn't.
[09:01] <Aleksander> I'm going to run "Linux for physicists" course on my university and I was told to teach them Ubuntu
[09:02] <MestreLion> milen8204: not sure about libreoffice, but in text editor (gedit) you can change the character encoding when you open a file... have you tried it?
[09:02] <Aleksander> and I'm getting more and more irritated at this distro
[09:02] <TheLordOfTime> Aleksander, debian'd also have the same issues.  Did you consider installing Ubuntu in a VM so as not to run into a lot of the issues you may see when installing direct to your hardware?
[09:02] <kernelhacker> see, i run command line only. don't even have gui. so i have no such issues.
[09:02] <MestreLion> Aleksander: does it work fine with 12.04 ?
[09:02] <milen8204> MestreLion, i thick the encoding is the problem but how to change it?
[09:03] <OerHeks> Aleksander, i think you need #bumblebee for your optimus >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[09:03] <Aleksander> MestreLion, I will be checking in a moment
[09:03] <Aleksander> OerHeks, I know, thank you
[09:03] <MestreLion> milen8204: not sure about libreoffice, but in text editor (gedit) you can change the character encoding when you open a file... theres a "Character Encoding" button in the Open dialog, have you tried it?
[09:04] <MestreLion> kernelhacker: you don't a gui for googling about vnc ports :P
[09:04] <kernelhacker> i don't reckon it's a driver issue, because unity just wouldn't start. i don't even think you'd get to desktop.
[09:04] <milen8204> MestreLion, thanks will try
[09:04] <kernelhacker> MestreLion, not on ubuntu system no. other systems, yes.
[09:04] <lowlifer_> kernelhacker, how do u use it without gui?
[09:05] <kernelhacker> primary desktop is debian. ubuntu is run in vm.
[09:05] <kernelhacker> debian is MATE.
[09:05] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, is MATE really different from XFCE? I know it's basically GNOME2, but they're almost identical for me
[09:05] <MestreLion> is mate easy to install in debian and/or ubuntu? i've never tried it outside mint
[09:06] <kernelhacker> well, yes using mint debian.
[09:06] <kernelhacker> pre-installed.
[09:06] <kernelhacker> correct, MATE looks (and is) GNOME2
[09:07] <MestreLion> Aleksander: that depends on how identical you consider xfce and gnome2 are
[09:07] <kernelhacker> nothing like xfce.
[09:07] <milen8204> MestreLion, it works i didnt have any cyrillic encoding :D
[09:07] <milen8204> thanks a lot
[09:07] <MestreLion> you're welcome :)
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> MestreLion: there is a PPA, Mate is not supported here though
[09:08] <MestreLion> milen8204: but, really... you should use unicode documents instead of depending on codepages
[09:09] <milen8204> i had downloaded the document :D
[09:09] <MestreLion> oh
[09:09] <MestreLion> wow, is anyone out there still publishing non-UTF-8 docs?
[09:09] <bekks> Sure.
[09:10] <Aleksander> how can I dpkg-reconfigure unity?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: what do you want to achieve?
[09:11] <MestreLion> Aleksander:  that would be sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity, but i doubt it will fix your issue
[09:11] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, I see that no matter what account I log in to, there're no panels in unity
[09:11] <Aleksander> so it's not based on individual .configs
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: which release are you using?
[09:11] <MestreLion> Aleksander: before you login, have you checked the default login session is Ubuntu and not something else?
[09:11] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, 12.10
[09:11] <Aleksander> MestreLion, YES.
[09:11] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, is this a fresh install or upgrade?
[09:12] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, fresh install
[09:12] <Aleksander> done yesterday and fully upgraded
[09:12] <kernelhacker> what graphics you using?
[09:13] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, Nvidia 540GT, but it worked yesterday, before the upgrade
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: have you installed the nvidia driver?
[09:13] <kernelhacker> ^^
[09:13] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, no.
[09:13] <kernelhacker> install it.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:14] <throwed54> Bed real soon
[09:14] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, I did this on my previous installation
[09:14] <Aleksander> and it broke the system so bad I couldn't repair
[09:14] <kernelhacker> what result?
[09:14] <meowmeow> hello
[09:14] <kernelhacker> hello meowmeow
[09:14] <blackshirt> hello meowmeow
[09:14] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I couldn't start glx
[09:15] <Aleksander> even on intel
[09:15] <meowmeow> my resolution is stuck at 640x and I am scared to change my xorg.conf manually
[09:15] <meowmeow> how2 screen resolution GUI
[09:15] <meowmeow> ?
[09:15] <kernelhacker> type "fglrx info" in terminal.
[09:15] <ArchOpenBox> xrandr
[09:15] <meowmeow> in display the only res in the dropdown is 640
[09:15] <_Desu_> xrandr
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: what video chip are you using?
[09:15] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: something from the dark ages
[09:15] <meowmeow> my friend
[09:15] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, do you get 3D render=yes?
[09:16] <meowmeow> i used to have a 256mb ATI 9800 XT pro (also frm the dark ages)
[09:16] <meowmeow> but the fan stopped working
[09:16] <meowmeow> on that
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: I have older
[09:16] <meowmeow> thanks for the quick reply dudes/dudettes
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: if you run:  lspci | grep -i vga      what is output?
[09:16] <kernelhacker> i use old radeon x1050.
[09:16] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I don't have fglrx, isn't it ATI?
[09:16] <kernelhacker> runs perfect!
[09:17] <_Desu_> aye it is ATI
[09:17] <meowmeow> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)
[09:17] <meowmeow> so
[09:17] <kernelhacker> really, i thought it was all systems. bugger me.
[09:17] <meowmeow> how do I add a maximum
[09:17] <_Desu_> just use xrandr to change resolution
[09:17] <meowmeow> of 1024x768
[09:17] <meowmeow> for instance
[09:17] <FloodBot1> meowmeow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <_Desu_> xrandr -s <size>
[09:17] <Aleksander> and afaik you need X server running to get glxinfo
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: will you please quit hitting ENTER after every other word
[09:17] <meowmeow> SORRY
[09:17] <_Desu_> xrandr -s 1024x768
[09:17] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, you don't have X server?
[09:17] <MestreLion> meowmeow: the once-venerable mx 440 is far from being dark age at all :)
[09:18] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I have broken X server
[09:18] <Aleksander> I have only Unity installed and it pretty much doesn't work
[09:18] <meowmeow> MestreLion: yes it does serve me well even now
[09:18] <kernelhacker> broken, how?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: and what is the output of: lsb_release -sc      please
[09:18] <Aleksander> I can't even start the terminal in Xes
[09:18] <Aleksander> there are no panels and F2 doest work
[09:18] <meowmeow> oneiric
[09:18] <ArchOpenBox> tty
[09:19] <kernelhacker> switch to terminal system. ctrl+alt+f3 and then install the nvidia drivers and then reboot.
[09:19] <_Desu_> use a tty?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: still supported with 6 months support left.
[09:19] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I told you that it breaks my system even more.
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: did you say you have an xorg.conf file in place?
[09:19] <meowmeow> lol i believe so
[09:19] <meowmeow> I'm not really sure where unity started TBH
[09:19] <MestreLion> Aleksander: more than not having panel and launcher?
[09:19] <meowmeow> xrandr -s 1024x768
[09:19] <meowmeow> Size 1024x768 not found in available modes
[09:19] <meowmeow> i'm just trying to get my 1024 back :S
[09:20] <kernelhacker> MestreLion, it seems so...
[09:20] <MestreLion> meowmeow: you must first create a modeline
[09:20] <meowmeow> MestreLion: that's what I thought
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: if you run:  file /etc/X11/xorg.conf     does it say that the file doesn't exist?
[09:20] <Aleksander> MestreLion, I told you a moment before: it switches the resolution to 800x600 and prevents intel from loading
[09:20] <Aleksander> even after I X-configure and delete nvidia drivers
[09:20] <kernelhacker> what do you mean prevents intel from loading?
[09:20] <kernelhacker> you said you are using nvidia?
[09:20] <food> OerHeks, pass 1, no errors
[09:21] <bekks> Aleksander: The framebuffer resolution is irrelevant for the graphics module to be loaded.
[09:21] <kernelhacker> can't use both.
[09:21] <meowmeow> do I add modeline in the Screen section?
[09:22] <bekks> Aleksander: Do you have a Nvidia Optimus chipset?
[09:22] <bekks> Aleksander: If so, you have to decide which chipset you want to use.
[09:22] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:22] <meowmeow> /etc/X11/xorg.conf: ASCII text
[09:22] <Aleksander> bekks, I know and I can't because there's no such option in my bios
[09:22] <meowmeow> what is the syntax for adding a 1024x768 modeline and where do I put it?
[09:23] <bekks> Aleksander: The BIOS doesnt matter at that point.
[09:23] <bekks> Aleksander: In your case, you have to decide using bumblebee
[09:23] <Aleksander> bekks, so I need Bumblebee, I know.
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: ok if you run: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf      and visit http://pastie.org you can pastebin the text and we can see the file. When the page changes, copy the address bar and paste it in here please
[09:23] <bekks> Aleksander: Then why dont you use it?
[09:23] <Aleksander> where is damned xorg.conf in the 12.10?! I can't check what driver I'm using right now
[09:23] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: great
[09:23] <davidmz> I am not an linux expert, I want to have rsyslog report to a bash script I consolted the website of rsyslog and here is my /etc/rsyslog.conf and the bash script http://pastebin.com/69D8kfVw , I can't get this to work, the test.out file is not getting written, I feel like this is a permissions issue or something that I have missed been new to linux, how to make it work?
[09:23] <jpds> Aleksander: Create it.
[09:23] <bekks> Aleksander: There is NO default xorg.conf since ages. If you need it, create it.
[09:23] <Aleksander> bekks, because I want to start the system FIRST, and Unity worked
[09:23] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/5175840
[09:24] <Aleksander> bekks, jpds I want to know what graphic driver is being used right now
[09:24] <Aleksander> how to do that?
[09:24] <bekks> Aleksander: lsmod is sufficient to check which module is loaded.
[09:24] <jpds> Aleksander: lspci -vvnn
[09:24] <jpds> Aleksander: And look for your card.
[09:24] <bekks> lspci -k
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: Ubuntu hasn't shipped with one for a few releases now but if one is present, it will be obeyed.
[09:25] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: how does it look
[09:25] <Aleksander> why can't Ubuntu use KISS, like Arch does? >.<
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: I don't believe your chip is supported by the nvidia driver. If you run nvidia-settings do you get a warning dialogue or does it run as expected?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: it does
[09:25] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: is there a way to try and force 1024??
[09:25] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, I can't run nvidia-settings, I can't start any graphical DE
[09:26] <bekks> Aleksander: Because Archlinux is offtopic in here. ;) And an existing default xorg.conf is a perfect since of a prehistoric OS design.
[09:26] <liujianfeng> hello,world!
[09:26] <bekks> Aleksander: Because you are using intel, and the nvidia driver isnt used at the moment. Thats why you have to use bumblebee.
[09:26] <bekks> s/since/sign/g
[09:26] <kernelhacker> liujianfeng, hello
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: If you run nvidia-settings do you get a warning dialogue or does it run as expected?
[09:27] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip:
[09:27] <jpds> Aleksander: xorg.confs are a thing of the past. :P
[09:27] <meowmeow> runs fine
[09:27] <liujianfeng> kernelhacker,nice name
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: ok, what driver version does it say you are running?
[09:27] <meowmeow> just same thing as Display, there's no option to change my resolution
[09:27] <Aleksander> jpds, as are grub's menu.lst, and working Ubuntu releases.
[09:27] <aguadito> romney peaked mid-october and has been down-hill ever since
[09:27] <meowmeow> 96.43.20
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: ahhh makes sense. let me see
[09:27] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, i actually believe 12.10 to be the best release in years,
[09:28] <kernelhacker> .
[09:28] <prgmmer> I had a partial upgrade issue and running 'apt-get -f install' results in dependency issues with libc6-dev libc6-dev-i386 and libc6-i386. I am using a 64-bit system. Can anybody help me fix this so I can install and remove packages again?
[09:28] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, any reasons?
[09:28] <jpds> Aleksander: Yeah, thank goodness for GRUB2.
[09:28] <bekks> Aleksander: there is no menu.lst in grub2 anymore...
[09:28] <liujianfeng> I am still using 12.04
[09:28] <Aleksander> bekks, that's what I said.
[09:28] <jpds> Aleksander: It seems that you just don't like change.
[09:29] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: what's the good word amigo
[09:29] <liujianfeng> yes,tired of changing
[09:29] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, absolutely no issues for me. previous few releases i've had dramas. but not yet in 12.10.
[09:29] <Aleksander> ow, I see what caused the problem.
[09:29] <Aleksander> I've removed webapps
[09:29] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, best release since 8.10.
[09:29] <Aleksander> and the unity won't work without them.
[09:30] <Aleksander> I love how all ubuntus are dependency hells
[09:30] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, what?
[09:30] <bekks> Unity works perfectly without webapps.
[09:30] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, unity is dependant on webapps
[09:30] <bekks> It isnt. Thats just a lie.
[09:30] <kernelhacker> and you removed it?
[09:30] <Aleksander> yes, and it's just now I see that it was a dependency
[09:31] <bekks> I dont have any webapps installed, and my Unity works fine - on several computers.
[09:31] <prgmmer> Hi. Can anyone help me with the libc6 unmet dependencies issues? apt-get -f install does does not seem to work
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     and change it to this:  http://pastie.org/5175865
[09:31] <Aleksander> bekks, you still have the package
[09:31] <bekks> Webapps depend on Unity, not vice versa...
[09:31] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: cheers
[09:31] <bekks> I do not have that package.
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: note the new subsection, that's all I added
[09:31] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, just try reinstalling webapps. i can't see it being the issue.
[09:31] <billy-> how to open the terminal from the ubuntu live cd desktop?
[09:31] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: need I reboot?
[09:31] <liujianfeng> dash
[09:31] <OpenSorce> Can one of you guys make that bot point me to how I change the loading screen (the right after the grub menu) in 12.04?
[09:31] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, I did and it WAS the issue
[09:32] <Aleksander> it's working all right now
[09:32] <kernelhacker> that's great then.
[09:32] <billy-> liujianfeng: did you answer to me?
[09:32] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: or can i log out?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: if you get no desktop on reboot, hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root and you can edit the file in CLI using nano/vi etc and reboot by running: reboot
[09:32] <kernelhacker> awesome you got it sorted.
[09:32] <Aleksander> it isn't great, Ubuntu's a frickin' dependency hell.
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: I'djust reboot
[09:32] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: great
[09:32] <jpds> Aleksander: Which package was it?
[09:32] <kernelhacker> Aleksander, all distros can be like that.
[09:32] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, arch isn't.
[09:32] <billy-> how to open the terminal from the ubuntu live cd desktop? I can't find the terminal.... there is no icon for it on the left and no results on search, please help me
[09:32] <kernelhacker> nature of liux eco-system.
[09:33] <kernelhacker> linux
[09:33] <Aleksander> jpds, unity-webapps-service
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:33] <ArchOpenBox> Aleksander: Come off this idea.  Ubuntu has the most packages to its package manager.
[09:33] <kernelhacker> use arch then.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: any package based distro can get tangled like that
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[09:33] <bekks> Aleksander: Arch is even worse, because in Arch no one even checks those dependencies. But thats offtopic.
[09:33] <Aleksander> bekks, I know, I tried installing it yesterday xD
[09:33] <Aleksander> It installed a base system without dependencies
[09:33] <kernelhacker> haha, i installed arch this evening actually.
[09:33] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: sure give me a second, running it again
[09:34] <kernelhacker> base is fine.
[09:34] <liujianfeng> arch is a little bit difficult for me
[09:34] <billy-> how to open the terminal from the ubuntu live cd desktop? I can't find the terminal.... there is no icon for it on the left and no results on search, please help me
[09:34] <Aleksander> kernelhacker, it installs wifi-menu, but no dialog or wpa_supplicant
[09:34] <Aleksander> billy-, what livecd are you using?
[09:34] <Aleksander> 12.10?
[09:34] <bekks> billy-: Type "Terminal" in the search field.
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> kernelhacker: gentoo is a little easier to dig out of imho as emerge can install  whatever you want, as long as files are in the right place things work :)
[09:35] <kernelhacker> liujianfeng, it's source based. very different from what you'd be used to with ubuntu.
[09:35] <liujianfeng> some people get stuck in the rooling update
[09:35] <billy-> I downloaded it yesterday
[09:35] <kernelhacker> ubuntu is binary based.
[09:35] <ArchOpenBox> bekks: what pls another lie both of you need to get lost with these ideas. Ubuntu dependency hell a lie. Arch no one checks packages a lie. AUR packages... wow both of you are fan boys. I run both and no issues with either.
[09:35] <billy-> bekks: no results found
[09:35] <OerHeks> billy-,  press ctrl+ alt + T
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> billy-: press CTRL+ALT+T
[09:35] <billy-> OerHeks: I will try thx
[09:35] <bekks> kernelhacker: Arch is a binary distro as well. It isnt source based.
[09:35] <kernelhacker> ArchOpenBox, get over it dude.
[09:35] <OpenSorce> Can one of you guys make that bot point me to how I change the loading screen (the right after the grub menu) in 12.04?
[09:35] <ArchOpenBox> fan boys stop the lies
[09:36] <Aleksander> okay, gtg
[09:36] <OpenSorce> Or is it not an easy thing to do?
[09:36] <Aleksander> read you later
[09:36] <bekks> ArchOpenBox: I used arch for a long time by myself. I know why I dont use it anymore, and I know I am right. Believe it or not. And please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic now.
[09:36] <kernelhacker> arch is source based, am i wrong?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: I can give you a million links from launchpad with people in dep hell after adding PPAs and so forth
[09:36] <bekks> kernelhacker: You are wrong.
[09:36] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: no luck
[09:36] <kernelhacker> bekks, thanks.
[09:37] <meowmeow> i am trying to add a 1024x768 to my Display resolutions
[09:37] <meowmeow> any ideas?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: you'll be fighting the xorg.conf file til you get what you want
[09:38] <ArchOpenBox> ActionParsnip: I don't have any of these problems I find hardware that is middle of the road and my systems work every time. Don't need a website been through the problems of having wifi cards and graphics card that I had to wait 6 months before a drive was available.
[09:38] <food> Anyone can help me with this please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2080089
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: use the OS for a long time and you'll hit some snags :)
[09:38] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: The output is pretty long. Here's the last portion of the output. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328699/
[09:38] <meowmeow> Section "Screen"
[09:38] <meowmeow>   Identifier  "Default Screen"
[09:38] <meowmeow>   DefaultDepth  24
[09:38] <meowmeow>   Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals"  "True"
[09:38] <meowmeow>   Subsection "Display"
[09:38] <FloodBot1> meowmeow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <meowmeow>       Depth       24
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> food: does it affect all users?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> food: like new users?
[09:39] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: you are out of ideas?
[09:39] <ArchOpenBox> ActionParsnip: I distro Jump so hit snags all the time the last snag I hit in ubuntu was the 9.10 when they changed Amorka and I started using Song bird. Nothing hard to Google search for a solution. Just be patient
[09:40] <kernelhacker> ArchOpenBox, why distro hop so much?
[09:40] <food> ActionParsnip, I don't know but many users affected with this issue perhaps who are using modern Laptop
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> meowmeow: you need to fight the xorg.conf file, there are examples online you can use and you can throw stuff in the file to see if it flys
[09:40] <bekks> ArchOpenBox: 9.10 is gone for three years, and the application called "Amarok" was changed by the KDE upstream, not by Ubuntu.
[09:40] <meowmeow> ActionParsnip: okay
[09:41] <kernelhacker> bekks, not gone. just unsupported. ;-)
[09:41] <bekks> kernelhacker: ;)
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: dude, check my karma on Launchpad. I help about 50 users a day on there with their issues. I'm quite patient :)
[09:41] <kernelhacker> heck, i still run 5.10, 6.06 and 8.10!
[09:41] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: Any idea what the procedure should be to fix the libc6-dev dependency issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328699/. Thanks
[09:42] <savio> ActionParsnip, your great example for all of us
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors   all by posting solutions for new users. I've been around the block a while :)
[09:42] <ArchOpenBox> ActionParsnip: I have watched you 100 of times help other users. For about 6 yrs now I know you track record. I just watch you gotten lots of good advice from you.
[09:42] <food> ActionParsnip, Do you have any idea about this issue?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: :)
[09:42] <chakka> lll
[09:42] <davidmz> I am not an Linux expert, I want to have rsyslog report to a bash script I consoled the website of rsyslog and here is my /etc/rsyslog.conf and the bash script http://pastebin.com/69D8kfVw , I can't get this to work, the test.out file is not getting written, I feel like this is a permissions issue or something that I have missed been new to Linux, how to make it work?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> food: make a new user and see if it affects them
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[09:43] <chakka> i have just installed ubuntu 12.04 oo,i am not getting network connectoons .can someone please help me?
[09:43] <abhinavmehta> while reading man-pages, at the end we can see See Also section and few links like iptables-save(8), iptables-restore(8) etc…so how to jump on these pointers ..?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> chakka: what are you using for network connectivity?
[09:43] <ArchOpenBox> :) , lol Your fast and smart. I caught up over the yrs. You direct were I like to teach not just jump straight to a solution.
[09:44] <chakka> eth)
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> ArchOpenBox: hehe like it, glad I can help dude
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> chakka: what Ethernet chip are you using?
[09:44] <chakka> not getting internet through wird connections
[09:44] <food> ActionParsnip, Okay, Doing it . Again i need to wait for at least 24 hours to see the results
[09:44] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: It says "quantal". But when I login initially it always shows 12.04. I believe I am in some weird partial-upgrade hell. System is usable, I just can't install or remove anything via apt-get.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> chakka: are there flashing lights around the Ethernet port where the cable hits the system?
[09:44] <chakka> i dont know sir
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: quantal is 12.10
[09:45] <chakka> no my laptop does not have the facility
[09:45] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: I know, but when I login it says 12.04. My repos have been all updated to quantal.
[09:46] <food> ActionParsnip, I installed 2 external kernel (3.4 , 3.5) ... Do you think it is fault of the kernel?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> chakka: if you run:    sudo lshw -C network     it will show the ethernet chip on a line with the word 'product' on, you can use that to find guides. check the activity lights on the port and router (I assume it's a router)
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> chakka: does the interface have an IP address?
[09:46] <chakka> thank u sir
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> food: if they add libc packages, then ost likely
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> chakka: does the interface have an IP address?
[09:47] <chakka> i dont know
[09:47] <chakka> ip is there
[09:47] <chakka> but interface i dont understand
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> chakka: if you run:  ping -c 4 8.8.8.8       do you get replies?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> chakka: interface is eth0 and so forth
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> food: if you run:   apt-cache policy libc6-dev:amd64 libgdbm-dev      can you please pastebin the output
[09:48] <ArchOpenBox> ifconfig -a would work
[09:48] <chakka> iai dont know ,,now iam using windows since ubuntu net is not availanble
[09:49] <chakka> i will check an confirm dont go anywhere
[09:49] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: So my repositories say quantal, but I'm still stuck with this weird libc6-dev i386 and amd64 dependency issue. Any ideas how to fix the packages so apt-get will work again? Is there some kind of manual method?
[09:49] <chakka> sir..
[09:50] <food> ActionParsnip, sure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328723/
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: can you pastebin the output of the command I gave please
[09:50] <chakka> i tried to install driver of eth0 but while make command executes ut gives error
[09:50] <chakka> saying no makefile
[09:50] <chakka> in the target
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> chakka: does the interface have an IP?
[09:51] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: of lsb_release -sc? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328728/
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> chakka: do the lights flash around the physical connection
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: oh jeez, what a mess. Partial upgrades are always hell
[09:52] <food> ActionParsnip, Anything ?
[09:52] <chakka> my laptop does not have any lights for connections...iam able to use connections on wndows but ubuntu is not detecting any
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> chakka: if you run:    ip addr | grep inet     do you see an IP for your subnet?
[09:53] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: yup, I've been surviving for about a month on just compiling stuff out of git, but some of the packages I need have about 20 dependencies and I feel like I'm only avoiding the problem and that it's gonna bite me in the ass.
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> chakka: its a stadard to have lights, there is one solid for connection and one flashes for data
[09:53] <chakka> i will log off and check it and get back to you in 10 mins..thank you
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> prgmmer: I'd just clean install Quantal if it was me. If you intend to get to Quantal anyway. Makes life easier
[09:54] <krofna> My dash broke after I removed all the annoying unity-lens(such as amazon). It doesn't find anything... Help?
[09:55] <minwinpc> Hi, I have some problems with the media control keys on my laptop. How can I reassign a key to a specific function?
[09:56] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: Is there a good way of transferring over settings or possibly doing a "clean-install" without having to format? I already have a "dead" Ubuntu 6.x-8.04 partition that has data. This will make for another dead partition.
[09:57] <billy-> I'm using ubuntu live cd, I pressed ctrl+alt+F1, I got terminal only window, how to return to the gui?
[09:57] <gordonjcp> billy-: try one of the other F keys
[09:57] <bekks> prgmmer: Why dont you backup your data and repartition your harddisk to get your wasted space back?
[09:57] <ecataranciuc> billy-: alt+f7
[09:58] <gordonjcp> prgmmer: or just go and get another drive, and keep the old one for backups
[09:59] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: It's just a lot of data. Would moving my home directory to a separate partition make it easier to deal with clean-installing of the operating system?
[10:00] <billy-> when I click on the HOME FOLDER I can see the harddisk I've attacked: "/export/hda3", but in the terminal I don't have this path, I don't have /export directory at all
[10:00] <bekks> prgmmer: I'd create a backup, format/repartition the whole thing, reinstall Ubuntu, and use a separate /home partition.
[10:01] <prgmmer> bekks: Are there any other directories in addition to /home that would make sense to make into separate partitions to accommodate clean-installs of Ubuntu every so often. This happens to me every few years.
[10:02] <bekks> prgmmer: No.
[10:02] <bekks> prgmmer: I never wasted space when reinstalling, to be honest. :)
[10:02] <prgmmer> bekks: what's a good estimate for the system size vs the /home directory?
[10:02] <billy-> in the list of devices I see: "/export/hda3", "/" and "Floppy Disk". how to access /export/hda3 from the terminal as root?
[10:06] <bekks> prgmmer: With 30GB, you'll be very fine for your system.
[10:06] <prgmmer> bekks: thanks. I'll go check with the disk usage analyzer. I'm fairly certain that's a good estimate.. thanks
[10:07] <prgmmer> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[10:09] <savio> when we create separate partition for /home directory is it possible to use that same partition while reinstalling ubuntu without losing data
[10:10] <chakka> i have installed ubuntu recently on my laptop ,but i am not getting any network, both wired and wireless .i am new to ubuntu ,please help
[10:10] <belias> hello guys. need help with ubuntu relationship.. when i reboot my pc ubuntu automatically starts all programs which was ON when pc reboot
[10:11] <dr_willis> savio:  yes you can keep your existing /home/ partion and its data safe. You do need to rember to add the users back in the same order. or else your uids can getmessed up
[10:11] <dr_willis> belias:  which desktop are you using?
[10:12] <belias> dr_willis: ubuntu 10.10
[10:12] <savio> dr_willis, you are suggesting that order of adding user must be same
[10:12] <savio> dr_willis, will encrypted home partition also work?
[10:12] <dr_willis> savio:  i always add them in the same order. or else the uids may not match up. but i only have 3 users.
[10:12] <dr_willis> I dont use encrypted homes.. so no idea on those.
[10:13] <dr_willis> !sessions
[10:13] <dr_willis> !session
[10:13] <savio> dr_willis, thanks
[10:13] <dr_willis> belias:  there used to be a session manager/save session option. but ive not seen it or used it in ages.
[10:14] <palasso> Which is more stable? An LTS release with backports and PPAs in order to have some standalone apps updated or the latest regular release?
[10:14] <belias> dr_willis: sry... i have xfce4 desktop... on gnome its working.. but xfce saved session on every reboot
[10:14] <dr_willis> palasso:  i imagine it depends on the exact apps./
[10:14] <dr_willis> belias:  check the xfce session settings I guess. i never use xfce.
[10:15] <wols> palasso: if you don't want to do things like using gnome from backports, the LTS should be more stable
[10:15] <chakka> i have installed ubuntu recently on my laptop ,but i am not getting any network, both wired and wireless .i am new to ubuntu ,please some one help
[10:15] <wols> chakka: lspci -nn |grep -i net
[10:16] <belias> dr_willis: i think i've got it :) thx :)
[10:16] <palasso> I am on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and thinking to stay on this release because it's LTS and it's supposed to be more stable. But I'd like to have updated apps (not core gnome apps) so I was thinking to use backports or PPAs. The other option would be to install the last regular release.
[10:16] <wols> chakka: that will give you PCI IDs of the form 168c:001a which tells you what actual hardware you have
[10:16] <wols> palasso: which update apps?
[10:16] <chakka> cannot access pci
[10:17] <dr_willis> stable is a somewhat .. well vague term. ;) the core of the os. the kernel and so forth should be very stable. but its always the little things like video drivers and some apps that seem to make things unstable for me. even then i find 12.10 very stable here.
[10:17] <chakka> no such file or directory
[10:17] <dr_willis> chakka:  it was lspci   not ls pci
[10:17] <dr_willis> chakka:  it was lspci   not ls pci
[10:17] <dr_willis> oops. ;P
[10:17] <palasso> wols example: http://www.opbyte.it/grsync/
[10:18] <palasso> "This version has session sets enabled" It's a nice feature. Without it I'll be using SBackup
[10:18] <chakka> it gives network controller as broad corporation devices
[10:19] <chakka> ethernet controller atheros communications inc
[10:19] <Dora_the_explore> hi guys! wanna go on an adventure?
[10:19] <dr_willis> the 'addational drivers' tool may show some stuff needed for the wireless card.  but if wired is not working either..  you should try to get wired going first.
[10:20] <chakka> how can i get wired cooncetion to work?
[10:20] <_Desu_> connect rj-45 cable into rj-45 socket
[10:20] <dr_willis> chakka:  does the 'ifconfig' command show info on a eth0 or eth1 type device?
[10:21] <chakka> no such results
[10:21] <_Desu_> seriously?
[10:21] <dr_willis> it just shows a 'lo' device?
[10:22] <chakka> ya no reslts with eth0 or eth1
[10:22] <dr_willis> any other devices at all  ?
[10:22] <chakka> ya 8 other
[10:23] <billy-> in the list of devices I see: "/export/hda3", "/" and "Floppy Disk". how to access /export/hda3 from the terminal as root?
[10:23] <dr_willis> chakka:  such as?
[10:23] <chakka> link,inet,UP,RX,TX,collisions,RX
[10:23] <dr_willis> those are info lines.. the device is the left most colum.,...
[10:23] <chakka> inet6
[10:23] <dr_willis> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr f4:6d:04:9e:90:62
[10:23] <dr_willis>           inet addr:192.168.1.126  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[10:23] <dr_willis> eth0 is the DEVICE in that line....
[10:23] <chakka> leftlmost column is lo
[10:24] <dr_willis> so you ONLY have a line like...
[10:24] <dr_willis> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[10:24] <chakka> it is not showing eth0 in that column
[10:24] <chakka> yes
[10:24] <dr_willis>  then some other info.... indented in.
[10:24] <chakka> i dont understand.
[10:25] <dr_willis> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[10:25] <dr_willis>        inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[10:25] <dr_willis>        inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[10:25] <dr_willis> Note how the following lines are INDENTED  over to the right...
[10:25] <chakka> yes
[10:25] <dr_willis> that seperates the various devices.
[10:26] <chakka> and 5 other results
[10:26] <dr_willis> if you only have info on an lo device. then your wired card dose not seem to be recognized, or have its modules loaded.
[10:26] <chakka> ok only lo is present in the leftmost column
[10:27] <_deXter_> Hi folks, how do I share my net connection via ethernet but with DHCP enabled? I user the "shared" option in NetworkManager but it only works if I manually assign an IP on the other machine
[10:27] <chakka> ok..what should i do??
[10:27] <billy-> in the list of devices I see: "/export/hda3", "/" and "Floppy Disk". how to access /export/hda3 from the terminal as root?
[10:27] <ecataranciuc> chakka: paste output of lspci -nn to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <dr_willis> billy-:  what list are you talking about.. and see what the output of 'mount' shows for the mountpoints
[10:28] <dr_willis> lspci -nn |grep -i net     output should be 1  or 2 lines.. i think. ;)
[10:28] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: I think you need to turn on the dhcpcd daemon on your machine.
[10:28] <almatrix> i have a problem with ubuntu vga
[10:28] <peacock> !ot
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> billy-:    cd /export/hda3
[10:28] <billy-> dr_willis: after I click on the home dir icon on the left, I can see a list of devices (in the left side of the windows)
[10:28] <minwinpc> How can I list all running processes in the terminal?
[10:28] <almatrix> hi
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: give details and we may be able to help
[10:28] <chakka> i am currently on another system runnig the other simultaneously
[10:28] <dr_willis> billy-:  if they are mounted, the mount command shows the path. or ctrl-l in the file manager shows the path
[10:28] <ecataranciuc> minwinpc: ps ax
[10:28] <ecataranciuc> minwinpc: read man pages or google.
[10:29] <almatrix> i have a problem with ubuntu vga card in acer spire 5732z please help he to fix it
[10:29] <blackhole> hi to all
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> minwinpc: ps -ef | less   and you can view them all in the pager
[10:29] <dr_willis> almatrix:  and the exact problem is?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: what video chip does it use?
[10:29] <chakka> output was two lines dr_wills
[10:29] <_deXter_> ecataranciuc, good idea, will check it out
[10:29] <bipul> almatrix,  use ubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:30] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: One moment.
[10:30] <meowmoew> guys
[10:30] <meowmoew> i really need my resolution fixed
[10:30] <almatrix> the black screen
[10:30] <chakka> dr_willis output was two lines
[10:30] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: dhcpcd has a client and a server component.
[10:30] <billy-> dr_willis: got it thx
[10:30] <meowmoew> i just had to boot into the livecd because recovery console takes no keyboard input
[10:30] <dr_willis> chakka: ... and those lines are?......  you get a line for each network device.. so 2 lines makes sence...
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: seems to be some Intel ting, is that right?
[10:31] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/how-to-install-the-dhcp-server-on-ubuntu-12-04lts/
[10:31] <meowmoew> how can I add resolution options to "Dash --> Displays"
[10:31] <_deXter_> ecataranciuc, thanks
[10:31] <chakka> network controller broadcom........
[10:31] <almatrix> its intel
[10:31] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: You are welcome! ;-)
[10:31] <chakka> ethernet controller atheros...
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: and what is the issue?
[10:31] <bipul> almatrix,  you motherboard is of intel?
[10:32] <dr_willis> we need more info then just broadcom... broadcom is a company that makes dozens of chips/cards,.....
[10:32] <almatrix> yup bipul
[10:32] <dr_willis> same for atheros...
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: what is your video issue?
[10:32] <ecataranciuc> chakka: Do you know how to use pastebin.ubuntu.com?
[10:32] <chakka> no
[10:32] <almatrix> i think its vga card dr_willis
[10:32] <ecataranciuc> chakka: Did you have a look on that page?
[10:33] <chakka> broadcom corporation device[14e4:4365](rev 01)
[10:33] <ecataranciuc> chakka: www.pastebin.ubuntu.com
[10:33] <dr_willis> almatrix:  vga is a video standard.. not a chipset... so 'vga' tells us nothing...
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: the pysical connectivity doesn't matter
[10:33] <chakka> it is not available
[10:33] <ecataranciuc> chakka: paste the output of lspci -nn to www.pastebin.ubuntu.com
[10:33] <chakka> dr_willis broadcom corporation device[14e4:4365](rev 01)
[10:33] <ecataranciuc> chakka: And give us the resulting link.
[10:34] <almatrix> so what is the problem when i connect it with external lcd vga works will but here the screen is black
[10:34] <Archaical> morning kittens.
[10:34] <Archaical> sudo morning kittens.....!!!!
[10:34] <bipul> it must be some xorg issue https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:36] <dr_willis> chakka:  that broadcom is your wireless card - from what i am reading at ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078800
[10:36] <chakka> the lin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328803/
[10:37] <dr_willis> aparently its a tricky/unsupported wireless card.. wat was the info for your wired device (the other entry)
[10:37] <almatrix> ubuntu 10.04 working good but when i updated it don't work the screen is black just please help me i want to update my version
[10:37] <almatrix> please
[10:37] <almatrix> dr_willis
[10:37] <chakka> ok what  should i do to get it working??
[10:37] <Archaical> any script writing gurus here, having trouble figuring out the syntax for a script im working on.  Im working on an if statement that looks at all the folders in a directory with an extension and makes a symlink to that folder without the extension on it.  so for example.  if *.fldr exists ln -s *.fldr ./*
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[10:38] <dr_willis> almatrix:  start by trying the nomodeset option to see if you can boot to a desktop. then try to reinstall the video drivers for your chipset.
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: Lucid is EOL in 6 months, just so you know
[10:38] <chakka> dr_willis http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328803/
[10:38] <almatrix> when i can find the video driver dr_willis
[10:39] <almatrix> from where i mean dr_willis
[10:39] <Archaical> dr_willis: you are popular this morning =D  god bless you for helping out brother.
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> almatrix: the intel video driver is in a default install
[10:39] <dr_willis> chakka:  some info/fix seems to be here.. but it may be a bit complex for you.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12206899
[10:39] <ecataranciuc> chakka: poste output of: lsmod | grep -i ath to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[10:39] <dr_willis> chakka:  id bookmark that page
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Archaical: I'd ask in #bash too
[10:40] <Archaical> ActionParsnip: thanks, heading there now.  cheers.
[10:41] <chakka> no results for lsmod | grep -i ath
[10:41] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:42] <ecataranciuc> chakka: Try lsmod | grep -i alx
[10:43] <chakka> no results
[10:43] <_deXter_> Hmm, did that ecataranciuc, doesn't seem to be working.
[10:44] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: I never used a dhcpc server so I am not sure I can help you from here. You may try google for another tutorial.
[10:44] <_deXter_> oh wait, it worked ecataranciuc
[10:44] <ecataranciuc> chakka: What ubuntu version do you use?
[10:44] <_deXter_> I just had to reboot the client lol
[10:45] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: Nice. :-)
[10:45] <chakka> ubuntu 12.04
[10:45] <dr_willis> chakka:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/157223/12-04-does-not-detect-eth0atheros-ar8162
[10:45] <_deXter_> Sweet, now I can finally ssh into my Raspberry Pi and configure the wireless.. :P
[10:45] <dr_willis> seems to give a fix but its not going to be trivial.
[10:45] <ecataranciuc> _deXter_: You need always to reebot the daemon after you make changes. This is a rule for every service.
[10:46] <almatrix> dr_willis
[10:46] <ecataranciuc> chakka: Have you tried the 12.10? Give it a try after using the tip dr_willis gave you.
[10:47] <dr_willis> chakka:  id definatly try it on a 12.10 live cd. that would be the easy way to get it going if 12.10 supports it.
[10:47] <dr_willis> almatrix:  Hmm?
[10:47] <almatrix> help me i want to update my ubuntu version please
[10:48] <dr_willis> I thought you allready upgraded to 12.10?
[10:48] <almatrix> no it's 10.04
[10:48] <dr_willis> I rarely upgrade. it just takes too long.
[10:48] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[10:49] <almatrix> ok no problem
[10:49] <dr_willis> and i goof my systems so much it normally fails anyway. ;) so i clean install
[10:50] <Aerosonic> Guys. Help me explain what Linux kernel does. I need it in *very* basic terms that a 5 year old can understand.
[10:50] <almatrix> but when i updated it the screen resolution not works mr. dr_willis
[10:50] <dr_willis> Aerosonic:  its the foundation of the house that is the computers OS.
[10:50] <Aerosonic> dr_willis: Can you.. uhh.. provide some.. analogies?
[10:50] <dr_willis> almatrix:  you just said you were on 10.04  you mean you Updated TO 10.04?
[10:50] <jrib> that is an analogy :)
[10:51] <almatrix> no updated to 11.10 mr_willis
[10:51] <dr_willis> ya got that BIG flat lego peice you stick all the other lego peices on... ;) thats the kernel...
[10:51] <Aerosonic> jrib: Uhh. I need a simple explanation of what it does.
[10:51] <almatrix> i want to update it to last version
[10:51] <dr_willis> its the foundation of the OS. seems about as simple as its going to get.. you asked for what a 5 yr old could understand.
[10:52] <kamnikaz> i hate unity i'm on xubuntu but last time i tested unity was on 10.10... do the 12.10 with Unity 6 is better ?
[10:52] <jrib> Aerosonic: lets software talk to hardware
[10:52] <dr_willis> kamnikaz:  12.10 and unity works well for me...
[10:52] <Meow> hey I am in root recovery console and I cannot write to fix my sort
[10:52] <Meow> My xorg.conf
[10:52] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: Kernel is the heart of the OS. It helps to pump the resources.
[10:52] <Aerosonic> ecataranciuc: "Like a bridge?" she asks?
[10:52] <totodist1> Bau bau a tutto il chan da totodist1
[10:52] <dr_willis> kernels are like onions....
[10:53] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:53] <Meow> How to write to my xorg.conf
[10:53] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: She is perfectly right.
[10:53] <dr_willis> Meow:  its possible your partion is mounted read only, and you need to remount it read/write
[10:53] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: It is a bridge between the hardware and software.
[10:53] <Meow> HELLoooooooopoooooookioo
[10:53] <ecataranciuc> Meow: Hi.
[10:53] <chakka> dr_wills i have tried what you suggested but it shows error while executing make
[10:53] <Aerosonic> Thanks guys!
[10:54] <Meow> See
[10:54] <Meow> S
[10:54] <kamnikaz> thx but is it worth the change
[10:54] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: You are welcome! ;-)
[10:54] <Aerosonic> Oh god. Incoming question. "Is it like DOS?"
[10:54] <dr_willis> chakka:  because theres  a lot of other packages you need to install inorder to compile stuff.. i would suggest trying the devices on a 12.10 live cd. if it works in 12.10 then that will save you several hours of time and effort.
[10:54] <Aerosonic> It's not quite like DOS.
[10:54] <Aerosonic> How can I explain that?
[10:54] <Meow> I'm in root recovery console trying to write to xorg.conf says read only what in the fuck
[10:55] <danny_> Trying to 'calibrate' my monitor using gnome color manager, but it's greyed out. I downloaded icc-profiles, and all i can do is select them, and even that has no effect. How can I calibrate my monitor?
[10:55] <dr_willis> Meow:  its possible your partion is mounted read only, and you need to remount it read/write
[10:55] <chakka> ok i will try that
[10:55] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: Actually it is simillar. But just on the surface.
[10:55] <dr_willis> i seem to recall teh recovery console having some menu item/entry for remounting / rw
[10:55] <Tm_T> Meow: language, please
[10:56] <ecataranciuc> Aerosonic: The implementation of the drivers, software is very different.
[10:56] <Meow> How the hell do I do that
[10:56] <Meow> This is so fucked
[10:56] <Archaical> =D
[10:56] <dr_willis> mount has a remount option you could use.
[10:56] <Meow> Just trying to add a resolution now I can't even boot
[10:56] <ecataranciuc> Meow: The file system may be mounted read only.
[10:56] <dr_willis> or there MAY be some menu item i recall in the recovery menus...
[10:56] <dr_willis> that does it..
[10:56] <Tm_T> Meow: please watch your language
[10:57] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write
[10:57] <dr_willis> sudo mount -o remount,rw /partition/identifier /mount/point
[10:57] <ecataranciuc> Meow: oh, dr_willis was ahead of me. :-)
[10:57] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com lense is handy. ;P
[10:58] <JasonC_> how do you install windows 8 on ubuntu by dual booting?
[10:58] <Meow> fuck off Tim t
[10:59] <danny_> Trying to 'calibrate' my monitor using gnome color manager, but it's greyed out. I downloaded icc-profiles, and all i can do is select them, and even that has no effect. How can I calibrate my monitor?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: you'll need to resize your EXt4 to make room then install
[10:59] <Meow> Ubuntu has been going downhill for a while now
[10:59] <savio> dr_willis, i am thinking about repartitioning my system i have dual boot with win 7 and i allocate 60 gb to my linux partition
[10:59] <desu> (assuming his entrie hard drive is EXT4)
[10:59] <jrib> Meow: quit it with the language.  Tm_T is asking you nicely.  But if you will be banned if you don't stop.  Keep it family-friendly and let's focus on support
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: you will need to mess with your boot loader as the Windows installer will blindly overwrite grub in the MBR
[10:59] <jrib> s/if//
[10:59] <chakka> dr_willis how do i make cd??
[10:59] <Archaical> lol its funny how the second something goes wrong its immediately ubuntu's fault.
[11:00] <desu> If you don't like ubuntu don't use it.
[11:00] <Archaical> exactly.
[11:00] <savio> dr_willis, will 30 gb for my / partition do good?
[11:00] <dr_willis> chakka:  from windows? theres dozens of programs to do it. you need a cd image burner app. or use a flash drive to put it on usb with one of the tools from the pendrivelinux web site.
[11:00] <desu> Try debian or linux mint maybe? and then go complain on their ircs
[11:00] <dr_willis> savio:  30gb for / would be useable. ;)
[11:00]  * Archaical * Meow (425740ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.87.64.171) Quit (Quit: Raged and Page closed)
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> savio: I always assign 10Gb for / :)
[11:00] <ubuntuaddicted> morning
[11:00] <BluesKaj> guys don't feed the troll
[11:00] <JasonC_> @actionparsnip, i know all of this but i want to download it legally and dont know how because i dont think wine is compatible with upgrade asssistant
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> savio: but I have a separate /home partition
[11:01] <dr_willis> i have filled up 10gb /  - but that was due to temp space for making dvd videos. ;)
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: how is wine a factor here?
[11:01] <ubuntuaddicted> need help with pulseaudio, sick of seeing these errors.
[11:01] <Archaical> 30gb is pretty fair size for simply usage.  (not storing dvd's and porn etc.)
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[11:02] <JasonC_> @actionparsnip to install winodws 8 via microsoft, you need to install software called uprage asisstant
[11:02] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted,what errors?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: then you need to boot to the install CD and install it there. You don't run the CD in Ubuntu
[11:03] <JasonC_> whats the install cd?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: the install CD of Windows 8
[11:04] <JasonC_> so i have to buy it from a shop to get the dvd, but my computer doesnt have a cd drive :P, can i somehow put it on a usb?
[11:04] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/1SU1PM60
[11:05] <robbie> I accidentally uninstalled a bunch of core stuff and had to reinstall the system, using the option to keep the files. I had some work to get the video and the user account numbers matching the home directories but it is mustly good
[11:05] <robbie> *mostly good now
[11:05] <robbie> but I still have 2 issues
[11:05] <robbie> no sound whatsoever, and the tty screen size is wrong (fonts are big)
[11:06] <guang_> guys working on a terminal do not use web browser?
[11:06] <JasonC_> @ActionParsnip so i have to buy it from a shop to get the dvd, but my computer doesnt have a cd drive :P, can i somehow put it on a usb?
[11:06] <savio> ActionParsnip, dr_willis i use my ubuntu box as security destro so i thinking 30 gb for /home and rest for other
[11:06] <savio> i.e other 30 gb
[11:06] <jrib> guang_: there are web browsers for the terminal: w3m, links2, elinks, lynx, probably more...
[11:06] <robbie> pulseaudio does not start on boot, and even if I start it it doesnt seem to do anything
[11:07] <robbie> and all the guides I can find are for older versions of ubuntu -- Im on 12.10
[11:07] <guang_> jrib:but it can not deal with image well
[11:07] <jrib> guang_: sure
[11:07] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, the thing is I only have a 2 speaker setup with a bass speaker as well so I don't need 5.1 surround. how do I get error to stop so it doesn't fill my syslog repeatedly
[11:07] <jrib> guang_: I think one of them can use framebuffer, I don't remember
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> JasonC_: no idea, I'd ask in ##windows
[11:09] <RajeevGEC> is it possible to disable the F4 function key?
[11:09] <jrib> RajeevGEC: why?
[11:09] <RajeevGEC> its a hardawre prob in my laptop..the key is always pressed
[11:10] <crusie> hey- wanna try out ubuntu - got 16 gb of ram in my machine - I'm planning in installing xen on it and running windows 7x64 on top of that - should I choose 32 or 64 bit?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> crusie: 64
[11:11] <crusie> there should be no issues with programs not working or being unstable cfhowlett ?`
[11:11] <mrgreeen> c'è qualcuno?
[11:11] <dr_willis> i cant think of any issues with 64bit.. been using it for ages.
[11:12] <cfhowlett> crusie: 64 is optimized for ram of > 4 gigs.
[11:12] <dr_willis> can xen on 16bit even run a 64bit os?
[11:12] <dr_willis> oops on 32bit.. ;P
[11:12] <crusie> dr_willis:  it says so on the website
[11:13] <jrib> RajeevGEC: it should be possibel, but I don't know the best way
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: that'd be genius, 16bit desktop PC
[11:13] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, open a terminal and run , ps aux | grep pulseaudio ..we need to know if pulse is running
[11:13] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, what would removing my entire .pulse folder do to my setup?
[11:13] <RajeevGEC> ok....google dint help me much...thanks anyway :)
[11:13] <crusie> cfhowlett: I know that - I just wonder why the 32 bit version is recommended on the ubuntu website
[11:14] <dr_willis> crusie:  idiot proofing..
[11:14] <dr_willis> crusie:  if you have no idea what your bittness is.... they suggest 32..
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: the pulseaudio service is configure to auto-restart, it will make default config folders. You need to kill the process off to free up the data so it can be removed
[11:14] <jrib> RajeevGEC: I would look into loadkeys, dumpkeycodes, and setkeycodes as a starting point
[11:14] <crusie> dr_willis: ah ofc... I'm just guessing that people that wanna install an alternative os knows these things about their pc
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> crusie: it runs on all desktop CPUs as a 64bit CPU can run 32bit OS.
[11:15] <jrib> RajeevGEC: if it's ok to just ignore it in X, then something like xmodmap might be easier
[11:15] <cfhowlett> crusie: the eternal question.  Developers and bearded linux gurus can explain better than I ca n
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> crusie: remember the target audience of Ubuntu :)
[11:15] <dr_willis> crusie:  you hang in here enough.. and you learn that people dont want to think... ;)
[11:15] <crusie> hehe
[11:15] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/EVQD3CZz
[11:15] <food> ActionParsnip, I made a new user ... Any other step should i take?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> food: log in as the new user, is it the same
[11:16] <crusie> cfhowlett: I just remember a couple of years ago ( might be 6) I installed a 64 version of... Debian I think - and it was all kinds of unstable
[11:16] <food> ActionParsnip, Yeah already logged as that user ... Now time to wait till it crashes again ... right?
[11:17] <dr_willis> crusie:  a couple of years ago... i was using a amiga with 16bits.. :) the past is long past...
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> food, yeah just test a bit. If it'sok then you know its your  config and not the apps themselves
[11:17] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, do you want to remove pulseaudio ? or am I mistaken , I thought you just wanted it to work
[11:17] <crusie> dr_willis: alright
[11:17] <billy-> dr_willis: I was able to access the /export/hda3 data, but my problem is this: this harddrive is booting with centos version 5, but I didn't see any 'boot' directory, not even 'var' or 'init. so how this harddisk is booting centos 5? the os files can be hidden some way?
[11:17] <dr_willis> i still miss some of the fetures of my amiga... ;P
[11:17] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, i just want the errors to go away. i want it to work
[11:18] <crusie> dr_willis: anything special I should know or read up on before I throw myself at ubuntu installing/playing with Xen ?
[11:18] <dr_willis> billy-:  they could be on differnt partions.
[11:18] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, ok
[11:18] <dr_willis> crusie:  never used xen. so no idea. ;P
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> crusie: I'd just go for it, have a play
[11:18] <billy-> dr_willis: which is not seen in ubuntu live cd? how to view it?
[11:18] <robbie> when I run gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub I get "Cannot open display"
[11:19] <dr_willis> check what gparted says about the disk layout billy- . theres a lot of complex disk things out there that i never use. like lvms and raids and so on.
[11:19] <food> robbie, sudo -s ; nano /etc/default/grub ?
[11:19] <dr_willis> robbie:  you on the console or in X?
[11:19] <robbie> why cant root open :0 though?
[11:19] <robbie> Im in X
[11:20] <dr_willis> the display variable may not be set perhaps.
[11:20] <robbie> dr_willis: it is .. I checked
[11:20] <Tanvir> Hello, I have factory installed Windows 7 in my machine which I had to bought, but as an Ubuntu user, I need to install Ubuntu (after doing the disk partition and so), but as I paid for it, I would also need a recovery disk for Windows. How can I set up Ubuntu in this machine which will keep my Windows and also can install Ubuntu?
[11:20] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, install pavucintrol if it's not already installed
[11:21] <dr_willis> Tanvir:  first thing with a new wundows box.. make a dvd revovery disk set useing the tools the hw makers put on the pc.. just in case.. ;)
[11:21] <ubuntuaddicted> already installed
[11:21] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, pavucontrol
[11:21] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, already installed
[11:21] <robbie> xhost +SI:localuser:root even says 'xhost:  unable to open display ":0"'
[11:21] <robbie> thats in sudo -i
[11:21] <dr_willis> Tanvir:  personally i then get a 2nd hard drive  to use for my dual booting. If its a laptop i put the original hd from the laptop up safe somewhere for when i sale the laptop  a few years later. ;)
[11:22] <Jake--> I'm running mysql server on ubuntu and its bound to 127.0.0.1 ( I realize this might not be the correct arena for this question, but you linuxguys are pretty proficient in databases )
[11:22] <Jake--> the question is, how do I get it to bind to my public address?
[11:22] <Jake--> if I change my.cnf conf to "bind-address xx.xx.xx.xx", and use netstat to see what it actually listens to, its 127.0.0.1
[11:22] <Tanvir> dr_jesus_, I created a recovery disk using Dell Smart Backup tool. Would that be enough to boot Windows next time after installing Ubuntu for a dual boot?
[11:22] <dr_willis> robbie:  have the user run xhost + whatever   perhaps? not root?
[11:22] <Tanvir> dr_willis, *
[11:22] <Tanvir> sorry.
[11:22] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, is skip-networking active?
[11:22] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, you have to comment out the skip-networking directive
[11:22] <Jake--> TheLordOfTime, that I have to check
[11:23] <TheLordOfTime> feel free to.
[11:23] <dr_willis> Tanvir:  you mean to reinstall windows? it should. but i tend to always test those disks out.  some times they do annoying things when they restore your system
[11:23] <TheLordOfTime> that's likely the issue
[11:23] <dr_willis> Tanvir:  normaly ubuntu install should set up dual booting.
[11:23] <robbie> dr_willis: that was it :) thanks
[11:23] <Jake--> TheLordOfTime skip-external-locking, might that be the setting?
[11:23] <Tanvir> dr_willis, how can I check? By doing a recovery for testing?
[11:23] <robbie> dr_willis: crazy I have to do that
[11:23] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, nope, skip-networking
[11:24] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, skip-network or similar (it'll say network somewhere) is how they do it, last i checked the package anyways
[11:25] <robbie> how can I see what gfx modes are available in grub without actually going into grub?
[11:25] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, oop one moment
[11:25] <TheLordOfTime> i may have lied
[11:25] <TheLordOfTime> *checks*
[11:25] <onefang> G'day.
[11:25] <dr_willis> Tanvir:  my normal practice with a 'new' laptop is  i always buy a 2nd hard drive for it. (a ssd these days) then i make the recovery set. swap out the hd. Keep the original SAFE. then try the restore set to be sure it works.. then put linux onit.
[11:25] <Jake--> TheLordOfTime oh I found it now, appears that in my version of mysql the skip-networking is off by default and replaced to "listen only on localhost", but I believe "bind-address = 85.25.117.209" negates it, correct?
[11:25] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, that should be the case, did you restart MySQL after changing the bind-address ?
[11:26] <Jake--> I did
[11:26] <TheLordOfTime> and no dice?
[11:27] <Jake--> no dice, nope
[11:27] <jrib> Jake--: you did restart mysql, right?
[11:27] <TheLordOfTime> jrib, i just asked him that
[11:28] <Tanvir> dr_willis, my problem is I cannot do that in an external HD, I do it in DVDs.
[11:28] <Jake--> Why I'm doing this is so I could connect to my DB from my desktop, instead of having to connect to the server first, and from there to localhost
[11:28] <Tanvir> dr_willis, I just made the recovery disk in 2 DVDs.
[11:28] <mN-> how do I get my nicklist back in quassel irc :D i just removed it by mouse and it vanished!
[11:28] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, you just want to be able to remotely access your MySQL from your local network?
[11:28] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, or are you trying to access it from some other location?
[11:29] <onefang> I've just updated to 12.04, and there's a couple of annoyances I have not been able to figure out.  One is that pppd starts up twice on boot. The first one connects fine, the second one fails to connect (likely coz the first one is already connected) then spams my log files once per minute telling me it has failed again.  I can't find where it starts them up.
[11:29] <Jake--> From other location, the server is located in another country
[11:29] <onefang> The second problem is that xmms2 no longer displays song name and artist from Internet radio streams.
[11:30] <hetkat> hi, im trying to run a poker server+client locally. I did "sudo apt-get install python-poker-network" then "sudo apt-get install poker2d" then "poker2d". I get error: "ImportError: No module named _pokerinterface2_7" any ideas?
[11:30] <onefang> Neither is major, I can manually kill the second pppd, and I guess I can live without song titles.  Just very annoying.  lol
[11:31] <dr_willis> !info poker2d
[11:31] <dr_willis> hetkat:  where did poker2d and the server come from?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> hetkat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/poker-network/+bug/755485
[11:31] <Jake--> TheLordOfTime I'm stopping the service now, to see if it actually goes down
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> hetkat: have you seen that bug?
[11:32] <hetkat> they came from the standard PPAs
[11:32] <dr_willis> err.. ppas are not 'standard' ;)
[11:32] <dr_willis> !info python-poker-network
[11:32] <dr_willis> !find poker2d
[11:32] <hetkat> ActionParsnip: yes - but no solution. wondered if any of you guys might be able to help
[11:32] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, maybe the wrong or no driver is installed , cat /proc/asound/modules
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> hetkat: I suggest you add to the bug to state its still happening
[11:33] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, 0 snd_hda_intel
[11:33] <hetkat> ActionParsnip: ok thx
[11:33] <Jake--> TheLordOfTime, Solution found, turns out the mysql stopscript didn't do its job.         now its bound to my public address, thanks for your effort in finding this solution with me.
[11:33] <TheLordOfTime> Jake--, yep.
[11:33] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, and 1 snd_mpu401
[11:34] <desu> j
[11:34] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, ok , what chip does alsamixer show ?
[11:34] <blackshirt> hello
[11:35] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx]
[11:35] <bencc1> is there something like tabs in unity for monitoring several windows of the same app like several terminals and gedit instances? (not app tabs)
[11:35] <onefang> I should have mentioned I don't use NetworkManager.  So, anyone know why pppd might start up twice, or even where to poke looking for what system actually starts them up?
[11:36] <blackshirt> good night
[11:36] <vinto> yo
[11:36] <blackshirt> onefang, what are you using to connect ?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> bencc1: unity will only show the app window itsef, the tabs aren't separated when you alt-tab etc
[11:38] <bencc1> ActionParsnip: so I'll stick with gnome session fallback. thanks
[11:38] <onefang> blackshirt: I just put the ppp details in the proper place in /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/ppp and something at boot time picks that up and starts pppd twice.
[11:38] <savio> !home
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> bencc1: that doesn't dictate the WM
[11:39] <bencc1> ActionParsnip: WN?
[11:39] <bencc1> WM?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> bencc1: window manager
[11:39] <bencc1> ActionParsnip:  unity is just too slow for me
[11:39] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, the default intel hda driver looks correct for the that chip, so if you remove pulseaudio temporarily and make sure we have sound thru alsa alone, run  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[11:39] <bencc1> ActionParsnip: I'm running inside vbox and it's unusable
[11:39] <onefang> WM = Window Manager.
[11:40] <ngt> hi, i am using samsung ml1660 printer, ubuntu detect my printer but i am unable to print anything.
[11:40] <koinandable> so, i find it ridiculous that i have to ask this question but is there a working way to play an audio cd with ubuntu? rhythmbox plays it with totally distorted sound, amarok plays mp3 from hdd but not the cd tracks in the same playlist and qmmp doesnt find tracks when i try to open /media/cdrom. this is so shitty i dont have words for it. seems like ubuntu developers are workinghard to make everything worse than it was so
[11:40] <koinandable> me time ago?!
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> bencc1: ahhh if its 12.10 then it will be. I'd use something light like Xubuntu or Lubuntu to give a snappier OS
[11:40] <blackshirt> bencc1, you can change your desktop if you not like unity
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> koinandable: tried VLC?
[11:41] <koinandable> not yet ... trying
[11:41] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, it has to be some config file somewhere telling it to try to active surround5.1
[11:41] <dr_willis> koinandable:  you would play /dev/cdrom not /media/cdrom   you dont mount audio cds
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> koinandable: media -> open disk (Shortcut CTRL+D)
[11:41] <bencc1> blackshirt: yes, I'll use gnome-session-fallback which looks like old ubuntu
[11:41] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, and front:0
[11:41] <dr_willis> koinandable:  and ive had some players give me staticky or other sound issues with the default sound output. i had to switch them to use alsa in their settings.
[11:42] <blackshirt> bencc1 unity relies on a lot of compiz efects, i think ...
[11:43] <demez> hi
[11:43] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, do you have an ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.cong file ?
[11:43] <demez> any good theme for gnome 3?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: a few
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> demez: depends on taste
[11:44] <savio> is there any way so i can move my /home to another partition without formatting ubuntu
[11:44] <demez> compiz doesn't work with gnome3 right?
[11:44] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, no
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> demez: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/5-nice-gnome-34-themes-ubuntu-ppa.html
[11:44] <brian6685> Ive got Ubuntu 12.10 installed, and i updated my win7 installation to windows 8, and it took over the grub bootloader to use the windows one. How can I get back into Ubuntu and/or add it to my boot options? Thanks
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> demez: no, compiz is the default WM for Gnome3 in Ubuntu now
[11:45] <blackshirt> compiz was pretty buggy
[11:45] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, /etc/asound.conf
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> brian6685: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[11:45] <hetkat> hi, I want to report a bug I am experiencing (on launchpad). The same bug has already been reported for a previous release of ubuntu. Do I need to add a new bug or just mark the old bug as effecting me?
[11:45] <dr_willis> gnome-shell uses mutter i belive. unity uses compiz
[11:45] <onefang> brian6685: Always best to install Windows first so it wont do that.  Try booting off a Ubuntu CD and using the rescue, or just reinstall it.
[11:45] <robbie> hey, I have no sound -- nothing to select in output from sound in system settings
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hetkat: I'd update the standing bug
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> robbie: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[11:46] <hetkat> ActionParsnip:  how do I add the info that it effects quantal?
[11:46] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, no
[11:46] <brian6685> ActionParsnip, onefang: thanks
[11:46] <dr_willis> brian6685:  live cd and boot-repair tool perhaps ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> just write in the box at the bottom what you know
[11:46] <hetkat> k
[11:46] <robbie> ActionParsnip: do you need all that or just the aplay -l and lspci |grep Audio first?
[11:47] <demez> okay thanks for the responses :)
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> hetkat: you may want to use:  apt-cache policy packagename     to show version numbers and source of package etc
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> robbie: run the command as one and select to upload, it will make a URL. What is it please
[11:47] <robbie> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=215b755d9774747105aaf33f3d238ffcd0dbeaa6
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> robbie: if you run the 'sounds' app in dash, is the right device set for output?
[11:48] <robbie> ActionParsnip: there are no devices listed there
[11:48] <robbie> zero, none
[11:48] <robbie> not a one
[11:48] <hetkat> ActionParsnip: done. thx
[11:49] <BluesKaj> ubunu  my suggestion is to remove pulseaudio so we make sure alsa is working , most setups can run without pulseaudio for music etc that's on the HDD , for web audio most pcs require pulse
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> robbie: if you close the sound app and run:  killall pulseaudio      then wait a little while, do you see devices listed?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted,^
[11:49] <robbie> ActionParsnip: if you read that file I sent you'll see that pulseaudio doesnt load at boot
[11:50] <robbie> ActionParsnip: Im sorry -- its just, that is exactly what I did before coming here
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> if you run:  ps -ef | grep pulse      is it running?
[11:50] <robbie> ActionParsnip: and if I service start it, it says it is running from service but pulse volume control cant connect to it
[11:51] <ubuntuaddicted> BluesKaj, sorry, gotta go. thanks for trying to help
[11:51] <robbie> ActionParsnip: sudo service pulseaudio status is not running
[11:51] <BluesKaj> ubuntuaddicted, did you see my last post ..keep it in mind
[11:52] <robbie> see the section "!!Sound Servers on this system" -- its installed its just not running
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> robbie: have you tried:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall install pulseaudio
[11:53] <robbie> ActionParsnip: no I havent .. let me try not getting the dev version and just forcing the reinstall though
[11:53] <robbie> maybe that is it
[11:53] <ngt> hi, i am using samsung ml1660 printer, ubuntu detect my printer but i am unable to print anything.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> robbie: seems quantal has a newer version anyhoo, but reinstalling the package may help
[11:54] <robbie> I stll get "establishing connection to PulseAudio" from the pulseaudio volume control :S
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> ngt: did you use the unified driver from the samsung site?
[11:55] <danny_> Trying to 'calibrate' my monitor using gnome color manager, but it's greyed out. I downloaded icc-profiles, and all i can do is select them, and even that has no effect. How can I calibrate my monitor?
[11:55] <koinandable> ok, tried to play the cd with vlc -> plays with distorted sound, switched to ALSA, still distorted, yesterday i ripped an audio cd bc of this mess and could play the ripped tracks without issues ... on one cd the fiirst track is distorted, the others can be played, it's a new drive and original audio cd's. what can i try now?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> robbie: my sound troubleshooting isn't great to be honest, I can do basic stuff but I've never had a sound issue personally so all I can do is search the web. Maybe others can advise
[11:56] <robbie> ActionParsnip: this is because I had to upgrade my system from the DVD and now a couple issues remain
[11:56] <robbie> ActionParsnip: almost everyhting else Ive worked out
[11:56] <robbie> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> robbie: I try. The alsa URL you have is handy, hold onto it
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> ngt: found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591873
[11:58] <wahidno> hi
[11:58] <wahidno> h r u
[11:59] <searching> can Openbox freeze ubuntu desktop?
[12:01] <ngt> ActionParsnip:  yup i have already install the samsung unified driver
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> searching: i guess so
[12:01] <_cronus_> danny_, i think that in order to calibrate your monitor (create it's icc profile) you need a hardware device.
[12:02] <searching> if I remove OpenBox will run fine?
[12:02] <dr_willis> it would be weird that openbox would freeze the whole OS.
[12:03] <searching> yes freeze all
[12:03] <Aleksander> Okay, bumblebee seems to be working
[12:03] <Aleksander> but can you please tell me which package is responsible for date applet in Unity?
[12:04] <Aleksander> I've removed evolution, which was causing problems, and now there's no time applet
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> !info indicator-datetime | Aleksander
[12:04] <Aleksander> ActionParsnip, thank you
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Aleksander: method: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328960/
[12:06] <RESIST> hello
[12:06] <handuel> 'ello
[12:06] <RESIST> my nvidia drivers are fucked
[12:06] <RESIST> how do i remove them
[12:06] <RESIST> cleanly
[12:06] <FloodBot1> RESIST: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:06] <handuel> what method did you use to install?
[12:06] <dr_willis> how did you install them?
[12:06] <RESIST> ubuntu
[12:06] <RESIST> alerted me to the unsupported
[12:06] <RESIST> thing
[12:07] <handuel> Ah that means additional drivers
[12:07] <RESIST> yea that
[12:07] <RESIST> and it ruined everything
[12:07] <RESIST> now I just want to go back to regular ubuntuland
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> RESIST: sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep nvidia | awk {'print $2'} | grep -v nvidia-common`
[12:07]  * RESIST crosses fingers
[12:08] <mN-> gj ActionParsnip
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> mN-: i have yellow belt bashfu
[12:08] <mN-> :D
[12:08] <handuel> I've got slight nvidia issues as well, I used apt-get install nvidia-current-updates, and although it has sped up my fps in openGL games, the desktop is now quite jerky, especially when using workspace switcher, anyone no y
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> and for some reason nvidia-common is a dep of the ubuntu-desktop package, weird
[12:11] <RESIST> ok
[12:11] <RESIST> these are the packages that showed up in synpatic
[12:11] <Aleksander> thank you and read you
[12:11] <RESIST> hopefully this shit works
[12:11] <RESIST> so i can go to sleep
[12:11] <RESIST> it's 5am here
[12:11] <FloodBot1> RESIST: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:11] <RESIST> thank you, FloodBot1
[12:13] <handuel> Does anyone have any idea why nvidia-common-updates would slow down the desktop, but speed up opengl games
[12:15] <mN-> handuel: nvidia-settings -q RefreshRate
[12:15] <almatrix> how i can enable the update manager?
[12:15] <jrib> almatrix: enable it to do what?
[12:16] <handuel> mN-: 60.00 which is the recommended for my monitor
[12:16] <almatrix>  i want to update my linux to 11.10 but there is a problem i have to enable update how i can do that?
[12:17] <almatrix> update my version
[12:17] <jrib> !upgrade > almatrix
[12:17] <almatrix> yup
[12:19] <mN-> handuel:  do u have sync to VBlank in nvidia open gl settings?
[12:19] <handuel> mN-: yes
[12:21] <mN-> handuel: take it off and see if its less jerky :D
[12:21] <handuel> mN-: ok, trying that no
[12:21] <handuel> *now
[12:21] <almatrix> hi guys my current version is 11.4 how i can upgrade it to 12.10 by the way i have 12.10 version iso on my hdd
[12:21] <onefang> More info on my xmms2 not showing song titles problem - Works fine on dogglounge, but not on any of the soma.fm stations.  It worked fine on Ubuntu 10.04 which I just updated from.
[12:22] <almatrix> hi guys my current version is 11.4 how i can upgrade it to 12.10 by the way i have 12.10 version iso on my hdd mr. dr_willis
[12:23] <handuel> almatrix: go into update manager click settings, switch to the update tabs, and under notify me of new ubuntu versions select any version
[12:23] <cfhowlett> almatrix: best bet is to clean install.
[12:23] <handuel> allow update manager to reload then the new release should be at the top :)
[12:23] <handuel> mN-: it doesn't make a difference :(
[12:23] <cfhowlett> almatrix: if you won't do that, you have to go 11.10, 12.04 then 12.10.
[12:23] <cfhowlett> almatrix: NO DIRECT UPGRADE TO 12.10 from 11.04
[12:24] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[12:24] <almatrix> aha okay
[12:24] <handuel> almatrix: sorry
[12:25] <robbie> how can I set pulseaudio to start at boot?
[12:25] <mN-> handuel: dunno why it's jerky then if it works on games. Maybe you have too many processes open == low ram
[12:25] <handuel> almatrix: I got my info incorrect, I thought you wanted to get to 12.04
[12:25] <handuel> mN-: never mind, thanks anway
[12:25] <handuel> mN-: intrestingly though, it only goes jerky once I open a window
[12:26] <RESIST> AHHHHHHH
[12:26] <handuel> RESIST: has it worked :D
[12:26] <RESIST> how do I generate a default xorg.conf
[12:26] <RESIST> handuel: nooo
[12:26] <handuel> sudo Xorg -configure
[12:26] <RESIST> no working and booting into recovery console took 5 attempts
[12:27] <onefang> Damn, works fine in rhythmbox, just not in xmms2.
[12:27] <handuel> RESIST: oh god :(, nvidia drivers are always a hassle
[12:27] <RESIST> handuel: that just gave me help list
[12:27] <RESIST> ????
[12:27] <handuel> RESIST try --configure
[12:28] <RESIST> same thing
[12:28] <RESIST> ?
[12:28] <RESIST> how can I restart X?
[12:28] <RESIST> /etc/gdm or whateve
[12:28] <RESIST> at least im at 1024x resoluton
[12:29] <RESIST> or unity
[12:29] <robbie> how is pulseaudio set to start at boot?
[12:29] <Gangnam_sty1e> good evening
[12:29] <RESIST> handuel: ?
[12:29] <Gangnam_sty1e> i got a problem in module darmok
[12:29] <philinux> RESIST: do want to restart unity
[12:30] <handuel> RESIST: try these to fix drivers
[12:30] <handuel> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64
[12:30] <handuel> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:30] <handuel> sudo reboot
[12:30] <RESIST> okay
[12:30] <Gangnam_sty1e> i tried to start tanagra, but had an error in module darmok
[12:30] <RESIST> i cant copy paste though
[12:30] <RESIST> fuck
[12:31] <handuel> RESIST: lol, just copy it slowly and take your time, I have to go and will be back in half an hour
[12:32] <demez> hm, I've extracted "Nord" theme package to ~/.themes and now I'm trying to load it with gnome tweak tool and won't work, isn't it compatible with Gnomre 3?
[12:33] <fabrydrunk> hi guys, I've just installed Ubuntu and I'm not very good. I'd like some help with repository. I typed sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa
[12:33] <fabrydrunk> but I received an error about gpg key not found or something similar
[12:35] <fabrydrunk> is there anybody that can help me? please I don't know what to do, I've just installed ubuntu
[12:35] <ale55andro> 0
[12:35] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  why are you wanting to use that ppa?
[12:36] <dr_willis> firefox should be up to date in the normal repos
[12:36] <fabrydrunk> because I wanted to update my repository. I've installed firefox and it was just version 6
[12:36] <fabrydrunk> while the latest version is 16
[12:36] <philinux> fabrydrunk: which version of ubuntu did u install ?
[12:37] <philinux> firefox is installed by default anyway
[12:37] <dr_willis> !info firefox
[12:37] <fabrydrunk> 11.10
[12:37] <fabrydrunk> I know, but it wasn't the latest version
[12:37] <fabrydrunk> it was version 7 (not 6, sorry)
[12:37] <xwalk> Is there a way to find the hex value of a color you're using in xterm? I'm trying to get the color scheme from my xterm to match my guake terminal.
[12:38]  * onefang gives up and finds something more fun to do.  lol
[12:38] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  you mean 11.10 and not 12.10? 12.10 just came out ..
[12:38] <fabrydrunk> yeah I mean 11.10
[12:38] <dr_willis> !11.10
[12:39] <dr_willis> why would you be using 11.10?
[12:39] <fabrydrunk> is it necessary to pass to 12.10 to have the latest firefox?
[12:39] <chrislamp> hello geeks!!
[12:40] <dr_willis> be a lot easier to stay updated if you used 12.10 or 12.04
[12:40] <dr_willis> 11.10 will be EOL in april of 2013 i belive.
[12:40] <chrislamp> what is the different between LTS 12.04.1 and 12.04 ?
[12:40] <dr_willis> .1 has updates included in the iso
[12:41] <dr_willis> so when in doubt get the .1 or .2 or whatever
[12:41] <philinux> dr_willis: package info from oneiric says (firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.11.10.1) [security]
[12:41] <philinux> maybe he just needs to update the system
[12:41] <dr_willis> philinux:  or perhaps thats from the security repo. not the ppa hes trying to use. :) i dont keep up with the old releases.
[12:42] <dr_willis> for a new install.. i dont see the point in using 11.10 at all.
[12:42] <chrislamp> thanks willis!!
[12:43] <fabrydrunk> ok I'll accept your suggest to upgrade to 12.04
[12:43] <chrislamp> i want to install 12.04 but i wonder if has the new features  of 12.10
[12:43] <fabrydrunk> I hope to find more recent packages
[12:43] <dr_willis> or 12.10 fabrydrunk  if 'recent' is imporntant to you
[12:44] <dr_willis> 12.10 here has  16.0.2  for firefox from its about box...
[12:44] <fabrydrunk> mmm I just need recent packages, not recent OS
[12:44] <dr_willis> if the system is new. id say go with a clean install.
[12:45] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  ubuntu dosent really work that way.. it follows a 6mo release cycle where everything gets updated then..
[12:45] <dr_willis> in btween releaes theres just a few updates to package versions. but i think firefox is one of the main exceptions that trys to stay updated
[12:45] <gordonjcp> fabrydrunk: how recent is recent?
[12:45] <fabrydrunk> and what about lts versions? 12.04 is an lts. it should be supported for more months
[12:46] <dr_willis> upgradeing from 11.x to whatever will most likely take longer then a clean install would.
[12:46] <dr_willis> !lts
[12:46] <dr_willis> if lts is imporntant to you (its not to me) then go with 12.04
[12:46] <fabrydrunk> For me "recent" means having the latest version of each package
[12:46] <HOLYF> fucking hell
[12:47] <IdleOne> !language | HOLYF
[12:47] <HOLYF> idle go back idle
[12:47] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  for EVERY thing you mean.. if so then ubuntu may not be for you.
[12:47] <gordonjcp> oopsie
[12:47] <HOLYF> idiot
[12:47] <HOLYF> gordonjcp:
[12:47] <tsuru``> I am trying to use apt-cacher-ng on quantal but I get errors/ warnings about duplicate sources every time I run apt-get update
[12:47] <gordonjcp> haha, a monkey would have learned sooner
[12:47] <dr_willis> Not everything gets updated constantly in ubuntu. thats why we have ppa's and backports.
[12:48] <tsuru``> anyone know a solution?
[12:48] <dr_willis> i think the browser (firefox) and a few other packages are the main exceptions - they try to stay updated.
[12:48] <philinux> fabrydrunk: try using update manager and see if firefox gets updated
[12:48] <gordonjcp> tsuru``: sounds like your sources.list has something a bit wrong with it
[12:48] <philinux> you can still have a play with 11.10
[12:48] <gordonjcp> tsuru``: can you pastebin the output?
[12:49] <tsuru``> gordonjcp: yeah I've tried looking but what I've narrowed it down to is in /var/lib/apt/lists/ I was told to delete *Packages and *Sources in the apt-cacher-ng install... I did... but they keep coming back.
[12:49] <fabrydrunk> dr_willis in fact I'm just helping a friend who installed ubuntu yesterday. I left Ubuntu a year ago and passed to Archlinux, it's my favourite distro, and I don't have problems like these
[12:49] <tsuru``> gordonjcp: yeah lemme see about the pastebin
[12:49] <fabrydrunk> anyway ubuntu was my first Linux distro and I still love it
[12:49] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  ubuntu is not a rolling release disrto. arch basically is.. its a core differance.
[12:51] <fabrydrunk> dr_willis but i didn't know that in ubuntu "more recent distro version" means "more recent packages version". I thought that repositories were the same for each version, was I wrong?
[12:51] <dr_willis> fabrydrunk:  things only get updated at each new release basically.
[12:52] <dr_willis> every 6 mo. new release. with all packages updated..
[12:52] <rainbowwarrior2> hi, what is the package name for unistd please as while trying to compile my c++ program it says no such file or directory ? (i am using Ubuntu 12.10 )
[12:53] <screwsss> hey everyone
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> is there a trigger for supported wifi adapters on ubuntu?
[12:53] <screwsss> if a driver is taking too long to instal does that mean my hardware is old
[12:54] <gordonjcp> screwsss: not necessarily, but most things shouldn't need additional drivers
[12:54] <tsuru``> gordonjcp: http://pastebin.com/pbuRBRyU
[12:54] <fabrydrunk> oh I see. But, if each new release brings new updates....why do lts versions exist? Aren't they something like "you won't have new updates for longer period"?
[12:54] <dr_willis> security updates are the key. not everything gets updated to the latest version
[12:55] <screwsss> not even display-?
[12:55] <screwsss> why do u say that. is there a generic display driver in there
[12:55] <gael> join #linuxcnc
[12:56] <fabrydrunk> I see. Everything is clear now :)
[12:59] <dr_willis> screwsss:  theres generic video drivers, then theres the open sourced drivers for many chipsets.
[13:00] <handuel> RESIST: Are you still here, did the commands I gave you work?
[13:00] <dr_willis> so my nvidia card could use the Nvidia drivers, or the OPEN sourced noveau drivers. or if all else fails the vga drivers.
[13:00] <dr_willis> bbl.
[13:01] <benste> can anybody confirm my bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1072074 or even better help me to get this resolved ?
[13:01] <handuel> Ok, he's gone, does anyone know if someone called RESIST, got there problems sorted out
[13:01] <miistx> un saluto a tutti
[13:01] <cfhowlett> !it|miistx:
[13:04] <emanuhell> h
[13:05] <emanuhell> ubuntu merda
[13:05] <emanuhell> windows firever
[13:06] <palasso> fabrydrunk you should have an up to date firefox 16.0.2 just by running update manager in 11.10 according to this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/firefox
[13:08] <robbie> when I log in, and for no other users, compiz fails to load and I have to ctl+alt+del ..andfter that it starts working again
[13:09] <YouDreamOfJeanie> how do I find out what version of Ubuntu is running - I have a load of systems out there, some on 10.4, some on 12.4 and some between, how do I discover which I am running ona given machine - ideally at command line?
[13:10] <adaminsull> tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[13:10] <philinux> robbie: when it happens open a terminal and use setsid unity see if that helps
[13:10] <adaminsull> Any idea?
[13:10] <robbie> philinux will I only need to do that once ?
[13:10] <utente> sudo apt-get install xchat
[13:10] <philinux> robbie: you may need to install dconf-tools first
[13:10] <adaminsull> anyone?
[13:11] <philinux> robbie not sure whats going wrong at the moment
[13:12] <utente> how i can download file?
[13:12] <philinux> robbie is this on 12.10 ubuntu
[13:12] <utente> please help me
[13:12] <robbie> philinux: yes but I had to reinstall it because of stupid admin error (thats me btw)
[13:12] <sanguo0023> hello,why i can't visit google.?I use ubuntu 12.04,firefox(startpage for ubuntu)
[13:12] <dr_willis> YouDreamOfJeanie:  lsb_release -a    should show all info on each box
[13:13] <YouDreamOfJeanie> ty dr_willis
[13:13] <robbie> now on reinstall most things work but this is about the last of the errors checklist that I have to fix
[13:13] <dr_willis> sanguo0023:  google.com is working here. could be a local issue. can you ping google.com ?
[13:13] <robbie> philinux: I get errors when I do tht command
[13:13] <philinux> robbie: see this. I wouldn't go the ppa route though thats overkill. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[13:14] <robbie> philinux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1329080/ -- note the errors for nux.gestures_subscription and org.ayama.bamf
[13:15] <robbie> philinux: hmm thanks
[13:15] <robbie> Ill see about that
[13:15] <philinux> robbie: a unity and compiz reset might do the trick
[13:15] <sanguo0023> Yes,I can ping it.But i can't visit it by firefox.
[13:16] <dr_willis> test in a differnt browser.. whats the exact message when you try it in ff?
[13:16] <dr_willis> what ip does ping show for google.com>
[13:16] <robbie> philinux: well I still get those errors on start but I think now it does not crash :) thanks phil
[13:17] <utente> aiuto
[13:17] <utente> aiuto
[13:17] <utente> list
[13:18] <philinux> robbie good, see how it goes. dont mess with compizconfig-settings-manager you can bork unity
[13:18] <philinux> apart from minor stuff like wobbly windows etc
[13:19] <dr_willis> eye candy can cause ocular cavaties. ;)
[13:19] <philinux> indeed
[13:20] <keshav> hello everyone
[13:20] <cfhowlett> keshav: greetings
[13:21] <keshav> hi i am ubuntu user and i am getting some problems in it
[13:21] <rsv> OKAY, just couple of hours back i had re-installed my ubuntu which overwrote my entire home directory
[13:21] <rsv> Now, i went and bought myself a 1TB USB Drive, I want to know what is the best way of using this up!
[13:21] <dr_willis> normally you keep /home/ on its own partition.
[13:22] <Hrki> hi, am on 11.10, i want update to 12.04 LTS but nothing shows in update manager
[13:22] <Hrki> how to update ?
[13:22] <dr_willis> so mount the external usb to /home/ if you wanted to.  but that may be a little slow.
[13:22] <keshav> hi am am on 12.04 lts and i face a problem that it hangs everytime
[13:22] <rsv> dr_willis: you want me to keep home in its own partition, how do i do it while installing ubuntu
[13:23] <rusfus_> hi
[13:23] <dr_willis> rsv:  the installer disk layout tool lets you define that. or you can set it up afterwards
[13:23] <rusfus_> help me!!! pls
[13:23] <gordonjcp> !help | rusfus_
[13:23] <dr_willis> rusfus_:  with ?
[13:24] <rusfus_> i have a small problem with xubuntu
[13:25] <keshav> is any one there
[13:25] <keshav> is any one there
[13:25] <dr_willis> 'hangs everytime' is vague... details would be helpfll.
[13:25] <rusfus_> when l watch a video from both the tube from a mediaplayer after 10 minutes, i will darken the screen
[13:25] <gordonjcp> !ask | keshav
[13:25] <gordonjcp> !help | keshav
[13:25] <rusfus_> come can l eliminate it??
[13:26] <philinux> Hrki: open a terminal and use update-manager -d
[13:26] <gordonjcp> rusfus_: sounds like power management is kicking in.  Is this on a laptop?
[13:26] <zorp> so
[13:26] <philinux> Hrki: it will take much longer than a clean install too
[13:26] <keshav> i normally boot up ubuntu and after an hour laptop sounds havily and stop responding anything from mouse to keyboard
[13:28] <dr_willis> rusfus_:  sounds like the screen saver is kicking in. disable it perhaps?
[13:28] <handuel> rufus_ I think before you watch a video running this in terminal: killall gnome-screensaver might kill the screensaver process
[13:28] <rusfus_> gordonjcp i've already tried, however,andnot on a desktop
[13:28] <keshav> i think i will have to reinstall ubuntu or will it be cured without it as i have shut down my laptop several time directly from power switch
[13:28] <JasonC_> can you add a windows 7 admin account via ubuntu?
[13:28] <handuel> JaonC_: no
[13:29] <handuel> JasonC_: or at least not easily
[13:29] <dr_willis> JasonC_:  ive seen some specilized reocvery cds (not ubuntu) that let you try to fix things in windows.
[13:29] <JasonC_> thanks for the quick responses!
[13:29] <gms> rusfus_ disable dim/blanking in settings->screen. keshav disable power managment options altogether. prolly do a top and watch it to see if any processes are spiraling out of control.
[13:29] <rusfus_> dr_willis _: already tried
[13:30] <gms> opps sorry window was scrolled
[13:30] <unrar> hi
[13:30] <rusfus_> gms_:  i try
[13:31] <rsv> I have 1TB usb drive should i partition it
[13:31] <dr_willis> rsv:  if you want. but i rarely do.
[13:31] <JasonC_> handuel: do you know if i could enable the hidden admin account through ubuntu?
[13:32] <rsv> it is partioned it in NTFS/exFAT this is a brand new disk, which i bought just to copy the contents of photorec
[13:32] <rsv> Also, is ddrescue more efficient or photorec
[13:32] <handuel> JasonC_: As far as I know you can't change many windows settings from ubuntu, you can acsess the files, but thats about it, you'd have to use windows safe mode
[13:32] <JasonC_> also, how do i correctly reply by making users usernames go red :P
[13:32] <dr_willis> rsv:  if its going to be used as a shared data disk for linux/wondows - keep it ntfs.
[13:32] <dr_willis> !tab | JasonC_
[13:32] <Hrki> philinux: i try, but still no new version showed up
[13:32] <rsv> okay!
[13:33] <gms> linux rescuecd has ntfs and registry editing support. try that
[13:33] <rsv> thank you very much
[13:33] <Gangnam_sty1e> i have a 4 tb drive i want to add 8 of them with mdadm
[13:33] <JasonC_> handuel: is this right? :P
[13:34] <JasonC_> handuel: is this right? :P
[13:35] <philinux> Hrki: open update manager and look under settings then at the bottom the drop down for notify of new release
[13:35] <Gangnam_sty1e> ohio
[13:36] <deepen099> hello
[13:36] <zizi_> Hie
[13:36] <hemejo> ./iwantnoaibots
[13:37] <zizi_> i want a simple application for remote controll like teamviewer any suggestions?
[13:37] <JasonC_> sorry for all the questions but maybe one day i may be the one helping others :P but how do i connect to a domain internet via wi-fi on ubuntu? I have likewise-open installed but that doesnt seem to work
[13:37] <BluesKaj> zizi_, teamviewer has a linux version
[13:37] <zizi_> Yeah but i dont like it
[13:38] <zizi_> it depends on wine
[13:38] <tsuru``> has anyone had success with apt-cacher-ng on quantal? I'm having issue with /var/cache/apt/lists being regenerated which gives me duplicate sources errors
[13:38] <rusfus_> gms_: i'm sorry what does "proly do a top and watch it to see if any processes are spiraling out of control"
[13:39] <Mitchell92> Hi... anyone able to give me a quick overview of what's new in 12.10?
[13:39] <gustav__> Mitchell92: Stuff not working.
[13:39] <food> gustav__, lol
[13:39] <zizi_> so we havent?
[13:40] <gms> JasonC_ network settings has options for wifi if you dont have a network icon in status pannel its in settings.
[13:40] <JasonC_> Ill revise, how do i connect to a domain internet on ubuntu, it's my works internet, you have to put your username and password, which goes like this e.g. domainname\username and then password on windows. I have like-wise open installed but that doesnt seem to help
[13:40] <gms> rusfus_ open a terminal. type "top" without the quotes
[13:41] <gms> all pretty strait forward from their just watch your process list to see if one of them starts collecting virtual/swap memory or abnormal cpu usage
[13:42] <kinema> hi, I installed ubuntu 11.04 on a 1gb USB stick, and found out now that the installation requirement is a 2gb+ stick. is it possible that ubuntu wasn't correctly installed? no errors showed up, but the system is slow sometimes. could it be the faulty installation or should I look for other reasons?
[13:42] <rusfus_> gms_: sorry, here i am
[13:42] <Eagleman> How do i copy one line of text from a text file to the clipboard and paste it somewhere when on the console?
[13:43] <gms> kinema if you are booting only from usb stick the system will be slow as it juggles everythinbg around in memory.
[13:43] <kinema> gms: ah sorry, I meant I installed FROM a 1gb usb stick onto my disk
[13:44] <gms> Eagleman right click -paste in your terminal from desktop
[13:44] <morfeo_81> hi there
[13:44] <BluesKaj> zizi_, I don't see any mention of wine being required here , http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[13:45] <morfeo_81> someone can help on comand paste..I'm not able to join column files
[13:45] <Hrki> philinux: thx, when i changed show only lts to show all, it displays 12.04.1 LTS , strange
[13:45] <screwsss> dr_willis: seems that ubuntu was running fine once i installed it
[13:46] <Jisawesome2> how do I make a command run on startup in ubuntu server
[13:46] <gms> add it to /etc/init.d/
[13:46] <gms> then link to it
[13:46] <Jisawesome2> Link?
[13:46] <rusfus_> gms_: what should i look on the terminal
[13:47] <gms> on newer ubuntu there is a slight change. aslo you can make a start script instead of init.d
[13:47] <screwsss> but the computer has a nvidia card
[13:47] <skysurfer39> hi guys, Just installed 12.04 on my imac but the fans are fast is there a way to slow them down ?
[13:47] <Jisawesome2> So I just go into the file, and put the command
[13:48] <gms> sensors-detect
[13:48] <gms> and then you can configure fan speed. read up on sensors
[13:48] <Hrki> is there any way to turnoff unity on 12.04?
[13:48] <skysurfer39> thanks ill give it ago
[13:49] <gms> Hrki
[13:50] <skysurfer39> has enyone istalled ubuntu on an imac ?
[13:50] <gms> on the login screen have a look at the types of interfaces. you may need to install the old interface first i dont have 12 atm so i dunno if the original interface is shipped
[13:50] <gms> skysurfer39 sensors-detect didnt work for you?
[13:51] <gms> ie sudo sensors-detect
[13:51] <ztane> anyone know how to get rid of the
[13:51] <gms> follow instructions
[13:51] <skysurfer39> only on re-boot
[13:51] <gms> respond yes to write config and then edit that config
[13:51] <ztane> skype hanging bugs
[13:52] <screwsss> how do you get linux on a mac!!
[13:53] <jrib> !mac | screwsss
[13:53] <screwsss> beh forget it
[13:53] <screwsss> thought there might be a click and intall way
[13:53] <eslu> lol screwsss
[13:53] <jrib> screwsss: you just put the disk in and boot from it if all you want is ubuntu...
[13:54] <eslu> must be a internet troll :)
[13:54] <Hrki> gms: thx, i will try xubuntu-dekstop
[13:55] <screwsss> i aint no troll
[13:55] <screwsss> im looking for ubuntu help and sure enough i aint gettin it!!
[13:55] <gms> screwsss if you want to install via purly click and install "reboot with cd/dvd in drive as mentioned" enable boot from optical drive first or it will fail. otherwise install a virtual machine and install on that. either way ubuntu is a clickers os
[13:55] <rusfus_> gms_: i may have resolved, try to reboot and do the test
[13:55] <eslu> Anyone mind helping me configuring Samba? I've right clicked a folder in Nautulus, shared it and allowed guest accounts and write/read permissions. But non of my Windows 8 computers are able to connect, they do detect the share though!
[13:56] <eslu> Nautilus*
[13:56] <gms> kk rusfus_ ill wait for you to come back
[13:57] <screwsss> wasnt askin bout that
[13:57] <screwsss> i was askin, do i need to get display drivers when i install ubuntu
[13:57] <eslu> No you don't need to get display drivers
[13:57] <rusfus_> gms_: thank you for everything
[13:58] <andjela> is 12.10 better then 12.04 for netbooks
[13:58] <screwsss> hrm
[13:58] <screwsss> interesting advise
[13:58] <eslu> andjela, go for 12.04. 12.10 still have plenty of bugs.
[13:58] <screwsss> dude
[13:58] <screwsss> * andjela (~andjela@net150-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) Quit (Client Quit)
[13:59] <eslu> ah
[13:59] <screwsss> :L
[14:01] <peacock> !ot
[14:01] <screwsss> eslu so you dont need display drivers?
[14:01] <screwsss> do they automatically instal or somtihn
[14:01] <eslu> you get display drivers when installing
[14:02] <X--newbie> hey i installed Slim login manager  and revoved it .. now i can't log in .. ? how to set GDM again?
[14:03] <blazer> ciao a tutti
[14:04] <cuore> hey i installed Slim login manager  and revoved it .. now i can't log in .. ? how to set GDM again?
[14:05] <screwsss> why the hell would you wanna install linux on a mac. isnt OSX incompatible with everything enough as it is
[14:07] <cuore> hey i installed Slim login manager  and removed it .. now i can't log in .. ? how to set GDM again?
[14:08] <cuore> hey i installed Slim login manager  and removed it .. now i can't log in .. ? how to set GDM again?
[14:08] <Mrokii> Where in 12.10 can I switch off Auto-login?
[14:10] <handuel> Mrokii: user accounts under settings, remember to click unlock at the top to change
[14:10] <gms> cuore did you try apt-get install slim
[14:10] <Mrokii> handuel: Ah, thanks.
[14:10] <gms> do tht again it should give you login options to select
[14:12] <aali83> hi guys, can anyone please tell me how do i add change password for a newly created user via command line?
[14:12] <gms> passwd <user>
[14:12] <aali83> ahh thank you
[14:14] <X--newbie> gsm :  i can't log to ubuntu to do that
[14:17] <gms> X--newbie == aali8??
[14:17] <stapper> whois stapper
[14:17] <X--newbie> what?
[14:18] <X--newbie> O.o
[14:18] <gms> oh heh
[14:18] <gms> sorry
[14:19] <gms> you can just switch to your non x console. try ctrl-alt-f1
[14:19] <Jisawesome_> I am setting up an ubuntu webser, however it is only accessible by people connected to my wifi, how do I change this
[14:19] <Jisawesome_> *webserver
[14:19] <gms> once your done switch back to x by using f7 i think instead
[14:19] <guang_> i am installing 12.04 by upgrading 10.40,now flashplugin-installer is downloading,but it seems to stuck.
[14:19] <gms> Jisawesome_ on the wifi look for port forwarding options. add a port forward for port 80 to the local server
[14:20] <guang_> how  should i do?
[14:20] <X--newbie> gsm :  i will try that and reply
[14:20] <X--newbie> :)
[14:20] <handuel> Jisawesome_ type in your external ip into your adress bar to acsess options
[14:20] <Jisawesome_> how do I find my external ip?
[14:21] <gms> Jisawesome_ it will be on your routers "WAN" page
[14:21] <handuel> Jiswawesome_ ipchicken.com
[14:21] <Jisawesome_> gms, how do I get to that page?
[14:22] <gms> erm. handuel not external. try the gateway ip instead
[14:22] <Jisawesome_> me?
[14:22] <handuel> gms: sorry
[14:22] <gms> usualy 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 or 10.xxx.xxx.xxx style. look at your ifconfig
[14:23] <handuel> gms: to port forward my router i used ipchicken then copied and pasted that adress into my url bar
[14:23] <Jisawesome_> Wait what?
[14:23] <gms> Jisawesome_
[14:23] <gms>  ifconfig | grep inet
[14:23] <gms>           inet addr:192.168.0.193  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[14:24] <handuel> Jisawesome_ ignore me, I think I gave you incorrect information
[14:24] <Jisawesome_> ok
[14:24] <Jisawesome_> I did that gms
[14:24] <gms> for me my gateway or the routers config page will be http://192.168.0.1/ based on my ip 192.168.0.193
[14:25] <gms> handuel your router may be configured for external administration. if so i recomend you disable that option. if you require it port forward to your linux box so traffic goes through your iptables and then rout back to the routers internal ip. protect the traffic by restricting it heavly with some chains reflecting login locations etc you might use.
[14:26] <vladimir> Hi. Please, how can I increase console resolution in Ubuntu 12.04 guest in Virtualbox?
[14:27] <Jisawesome_> I cant seem to find how to connect to the page
[14:28] <eslu> vladimir, i haven't touched virtualbox in a while. But its either in the virtualbox settings, or in Ubuntu.
[14:28] <eslu> Top right corner -> Displays. If its in ubuntu
[14:28] <gms> Jisawesome_ go to a console and tup "ifconfig | grep inet"
[14:28] <BluesKaj> handuel, for external IP , make sure you have wget and curl installed then you can use the termianl with this command  , curl ifconfig.me
[14:29] <gms> look for the one that matches the connection type your using.
[14:30] <ngueba> my ubuntu keeps turning off my screen, any of you guys may help me?
[14:30] <vladimir> eslu, I try to reconfigure grub2, but I had no success...
[14:30] <gms> ngueba settings->screen disable blank screen and possibly dim if that anoys too
[14:30] <eslu> checked settings inside ubuntu vladimir?
[14:30] <eslu> i know Google Chromium OS, won't let you adjust resolution in Virtualbox. Maybe same for Ubuntu.
[14:30] <Jisawesome_> gms, you say I have to open port 8-0?
[14:31] <gms> port 80
[14:31] <ngueba> gms i already set that up but it didn't work
[14:31] <ngueba> any other ideia?
[14:31] <gms> port 80 is the offical http protocol port. if your plan ning on ssl add 443 as well
[14:31] <handuel> gms: thanks for trying to help me but i've worked out that that was my old router, now I just go to bthomehub.home, to set things up
[14:32] <vladimir> eslu, graphical resolution is ok (1900x1080x32). But the console resolution is 640x480...
[14:32] <neweruser123> guys i have a question
[14:33] <Jisawesome_> Dont ask to ask
[14:33] <eslu> ah, then i can't help you vladimir. i don't know much about virtualbox :(
[14:33] <neweruser123> where can I get steam on ubuntu/kubuntu
[14:33] <neweruser123> i heard valve ported it to linux
[14:33] <gms> vladimir are you talking about just the consoles within or the desktop screen.
[14:33] <vladimir> eslu, thanks for your efforts to help me...
[14:33] <michealPW> There's no native steam yet, neweruser123
[14:33] <handuel> neweruser123: it's not finished yet
[14:33] <neweruser123> howmuch longer?
[14:33] <handuel> neweruser123: it is perfectly runnable using wine
[14:33] <michealPW> neweruser123: You'll have to settle for Wine right now, which I think should work fine?
[14:33] <eslu> neweruser123, beta coming soon in november/december 2012.
[14:33] <neweruser123> and once its out where can I find it?
[14:33] <eslu> for other users 2013.
[14:33] <neweruser123> in the software center?
[14:33] <eslu> probably
[14:34] <neweruser123> oh ok thanks and 1 last question what is the diff between WIne and WInetricks ?
[14:34] <michealPW> Man that will be so cool...
[14:34] <michealPW> :)
[14:34] <handuel> neweruser123 and check omgubuntu.co.uk for information about it, the admins there follow it closely and post info quite regurally
[14:34] <cuore> gsm : thX to remember that there is something called " recovery mode" lol  i just reselected gdm by 'dpkg-reconfigure gdm' command
[14:34] <vladimir> gms, i'm talking about the console resolution outside desktop screen
[14:34] <neweruser123> ok handuel
[14:34] <cuore> thanks alot see ya
[14:34] <michealPW> neweruser123: Winetricks is a set of scripts that helps make using Wine easier.
[14:34] <handuel> neweruser123: wine allows you to run windows programs whereas winetricks makes using some programs in wine easier
[14:34] <ngueba> gms: i've already set that up, but it didn't work
[14:35] <neweruser123> ok im using WIne tricks to install steam is that ok?
[14:35] <michealPW> neweruser123: Wine is a set of libraries that natively implement Microsoft's Windows' libraries that allow Windows programs to run natively on Linux.
[14:35] <Jisawesome_> gms, I finally connected to it
[14:35] <eslu> is the filesystem F2FS finished, or is it under developement?
[14:35] <michealPW> Yea, should be fine. Personally I recommend PlayOnLinux, but you can achieve similar results with Winetricks.
[14:35] <neweruser123> ok il try playonlinux
[14:36] <Guest____> hi. how can I change the window manager in ubuntu 12.10?
[14:36] <gms> Jisawesome_ somehow i knew you would without me having to say any more :P
[14:36] <neweruser123> oh yeah 1 last question
[14:36] <Jisawesome_> gms, I meant my router page...
[14:36] <neweruser123> where can I find the latest drivers e.g. AMD graphics card drivers
[14:36] <philinux> Guest____: which wm do you want
[14:36] <eslu> neweruser123, are you using ubuntu 12.10 or ubuntu 12.04?
[14:37] <Guest____> philinux: stumpwm. I already installed it using apt-get. but I can't find out how to use it
[14:37] <michealPW> neweruser123: With POL it's just so easy to swap in/out different versions of Wine for different games. Some games want certain versions of Wine or certain wine settings enabled/disabled.. PlayOnLinux makes it easy to setup a seperate Wine and Wine config for each individual windows program/game you install. They're all seperate from each other, as well.
[14:37] <gms> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[14:37] <fantasuello> ciao
[14:37] <neweruser123> im using kubuntu, i plan to remove kubuntu today in a few hours
[14:37] <Jisawesome_> !portforward
[14:37] <neweruser123> and install ubuntu
[14:37] <philinux> Guest____: log out and choose it for your session at login
[14:37] <eslu> alright, coz in ubuntu its just system settings -> drivers -> fgrlx
[14:37] <michealPW> I found I had to go to amd.com (ati.amd.com I think) and download the drivers from them. The drivers I got from Ubuntu were good but for some reason Gnome-Shell wouldn't work properly with it.
[14:38] <neil> hi guys i cannot update my ubuntu netbook? i did not get a hold of the error message. please help or PM me for support
[14:38] <Guest____> philinux: how? I can't find out how to choose...
[14:38] <vladimir> gms, can you help about this issue?
[14:38] <Eagleman> Why was my certificate valid after 2 weeks instead of instant when i made it, I've chcked the date and time on the machine i made them and it only differed  1 or 2 hours?
[14:38] <neweruser123> how can I switch from kubuntu to Ubunutu easily?
[14:38] <michealPW> neweruser123: You don't have to use either/or. If you like KDE you can stick with Kubuntu and pull in any program you want from Ubuntu. In fact, you can just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop right now, which will install all the Ubuntu stuff for you.. I do the opposite.
[14:38] <philinux> Guest____:  hang on a mo
[14:39] <michealPW> I install Ubuntu, then I apt-get install edubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu heehee.
[14:39] <neweruser123> ok micheal i will try now how would i switch back later?
[14:39] <michealPW> That way I can log-in and select whichever desktop environment I want and I have access to all the neat stuff from each distro :P
[14:39] <michealPW> You would do sudo apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop
[14:39] <michealPW> Which will revert you back to your original Kubuntu.
[14:39] <neweruser123> ok the problem with kubuntu it does not have Ubuntu software center
[14:39] <gms> vladimir i need to open a query my eyes just cant track of follow this chan as it moves too quick and i have memory of retention equivilant to a sive retaining water
[14:40] <neweruser123> it has "muon software"
[14:40] <neil> guys i need help with this one. "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[14:40] <guang_> i click once,but effect like twice.
[14:40] <michealPW> neweruser123: Ah, you can install the Ubuntu Software Center if you want. It's really neat, huh? It's the same software and everything, just so you're aware. What Muon can find, Ubuntu Software Center can find and vice versa.
[14:40] <philinux> Guest____: sorry got confused with DE not a WM have u seen the documentation http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/manual/stumpwm_1.html#SEC2
[14:40] <guang_> how to fix it/
[14:40] <guang_> ?
[14:40] <vladimir> gms, LoL...
[14:40] <michealPW> neweruser123: In fact, I THINK you can open Muon, search for "Ubuntu Software Center" and install it all by itself :P
[14:41] <desu> So guys any advice on compiling a custom kernel?
[14:41] <neweruser123> ok michealPW
[14:41] <philinux> Guest____: you'll have to read through it all
[14:41] <michealPW> Try that and see how that works.
[14:41] <gms> desu yes. take great care
[14:41] <Guest____> philinux: thanks, I'll have a look
[14:41] <Jisawesome_> gms, what do I do from the browser pagte
[14:41] <neweruser123> yes it works thanks for that, installing now
[14:41] <eslu> Got a question about PlayonLinux, why does it download a old wine version everytime i wish to install a game? Is there anything i can do, to make it use my CURRENT version of wine instead?
[14:41] <desu> Why take great care? what's the worst that could happen?
[14:42] <gms> Jisawesome_ have a look around in the firewall/port forward section. may modems/routers/wifi devices put on same page some have there own page.
[14:42] <philinux> Guest____: also see this https://github.com/sabetts/stumpwm/wiki/Ubuntu-12.04-and-Gnome-and-StumpWM
[14:42] <neweruser123> Is firefox the default browser for Ubuntu?
[14:42] <philinux> yes
[14:42] <eslu> neweruser123: yes
[14:42] <guang_> yes
[14:42] <neweruser123> I heard FIrefox wont get FLash player anymore what will hapen
[14:42] <michealPW> eslu: If you click on teh game you've installed and then click Configure, you can tell it to use whatever Wine version you want for that specific game.
[14:42] <guang_> i click once,but effect like twice.how to fix it?
[14:42] <desu> chromium-browser
[14:42] <Eagleman> Why was my certificate valid after 2 weeks instead of instant when i made it, I've chcked the date and time on the machine i made them and it only differed  1 or 2 hours?
[14:42] <eslu> alright cheers michealpw
[14:43] <gms> often the new kernel compiler reads out options not fully understood and enables them thinking they are cool features but often end up with unstable or incompatible kernel.
[14:43] <neweruser123> should I switch to google chrome
[14:43] <philinux> neweruser123: no need to switch flash ok for yonks yet
[14:43] <michealPW> eslu: By default, PlayOnLinux will install a stable version of Wine. It's not relevant though, 'cause POL's whole point is to configure a separate Wine for each individual game, whatever Wine that game runs best with.
[14:43] <michealPW> Np
[14:43] <gms> in general a default compile unless your using intel optimized compiler will do.
[14:44] <gms> you only realy need to compile of your bleeding edge or developing
[14:44] <philinux> neweruser123: linux will still get security update for a couple of years IIRC
[14:44] <Jisawesome_> gms, it wants me to choose a program I am doing it for
[14:44] <michealPW> neweruser123: That's poppycock. Firefox will always get Flash plugins, in fact most browsers get the plugin that was made for Firefox, since Firefox uses the Netscape Plugin architecture, since Firefox evovled from the old Netscape project.
[14:44] <desu>  
[14:44] <gms> Jisawesome_ what program is it asking for. ?
[14:44] <neweruser123> ok i see
[14:44] <gms> mayby a screenshot of what your looking at
[14:44] <alecb> I really like the tray icons in unity for volume, battery, etc, but I'm not using unity. is there any way to run these indicators as applets in other wms like you can with nm-applet?
[14:44] <michealPW> Besides, flash gets less and less useful as time goes on... Hopefully one day you wont ever need a flash plugin :)
[14:45] <neweruser123> like html5 ?
[14:45] <michealPW> Yes, exactly.
[14:45] <spleen> hi
[14:45] <philinux> michealPW: see this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/adobe-adandons-flash-on-linux
[14:45] <morsnowski> flash is to be discontinued anyway, and I can't wait
[14:45] <spleen>  just a question please
[14:46] <desu> And then everyone changed to Mac OS, and bunnies stopped reproducing.
[14:46] <spleen> how to get back in gnome shell the icone "show applications" in the dash ?
[14:46] <philinux> html5 FTW
[14:46] <michealPW> A student in fact used some tools to take the C++ source code for the Cube 2 engine and transcoded it to HTML5. You can try the game on the Mozilla Developer's Network.
[14:46] <mmmmmm> !list
[14:47] <michealPW> Runs amazingly well using and browser that has html5 support, without any plugins.
[14:47] <michealPW> Who said anything about warez? Get over yourself in this channel, seriously.
[14:47] <michealPW> I'm talking about open source games running in an open source browser using open standards...
[14:48] <michealPW> And you're talking about Warez? :)
[14:48] <Jisawesome_> gms, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/yeaj.png/
[14:48] <neweruser123> loool
[14:48] <desu> Why get warez when there's a world of open source out there?
[14:48] <michealPW> Exactly.
[14:48] <michealPW> Ubuntu makes warez silly :P
[14:48] <spleen> is there anybody can help me ?
[14:48] <jrib> michealPW: the response was to mmmmm's "!list" which sometimes has a bot send a list of available files...
[14:48] <morsnowski> michealPW, that wasn't for you
[14:48] <bazhang> !ot | michealPW
[14:48] <michealPW> Oh, sorry
[14:48] <Eagleman> Why was my certificate valid after 2 weeks instead of instant when i made it, I've chcked the date and time on the machine i made them and it only differed  1 or 2 hours?
[14:48] <michealPW> bazhang: Yea, heaven forbid we talk about Flash not being available for Linux in an Ubuntu channel, right?
[14:49] <michealPW> Esp. when nobody was talking anyways, LOL.
[14:49] <Jisawesome_> gms, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/yeaj.png/
[14:49] <michealPW> This channel's brutal, god..
[14:49] <gms> Jisawesome_ thats not the right page. your need to "port forward"
[14:49] <bazhang> michealPW, it is available. stay on topic
[14:49] <eslu> Flash isn't a problem anyway, one day html5 is common...
[14:50] <neweruser123> wtf uni's are teaching students flash
[14:50] <neweruser123> i thought flash is dying
[14:50] <Jisawesome_> would that be under info, broadband, LAN, firewall, logs, or dyagnostics
[14:50] <morsnowski> neweruser123, they also teach vb6 still
[14:50] <morsnowski> but then thats OT
[14:51] <neweruser123> what programming language is ubuntu made in
[14:51] <adaminsull> Why do I get apitide fail when using tasksel
[14:51] <desu> c
[14:51] <adaminsull> error 100
[14:51] <neweruser123> is it C or C++
[14:51] <mainerror> neweruser123: many
[14:52] <alecb> bump -- any way to get the indicator icons in a non-unity environment? like you can with nm-applet?
[14:52] <eslu> ubuntu software center is made in python.
[14:52] <morsnowski> adaminsull, sudo ?
[14:52] <neweruser123> so learning C means I can make programs for Ubuntu right?
[14:52] <mainerror> also, Ubuntu is obviously not only one thing.
[14:52] <adaminsull> Same morsnowski
[14:52] <desu> no
[14:52] <rexwin_> adaminsull, what do you want install using tasksel
[14:52] <neweruser123> then? what programming language
[14:52] <morsnowski> adaminsull, what are you selecting?
[14:52] <adaminsull> Lamp server rexwin_
[14:52] <michealPW> You can join the Gnome-University, neweruser123.
[14:52] <adaminsull> Lamp Servr
[14:52] <Wug> noone4: don't dcc people randomly
[14:52] <mainerror> neweruser123: Python is a quite easy to pick up and powerful.
[14:52] <Tdaug> Can I swap the functions of the shortcuts "super+s" and "super"?
[14:53] <mainerror> I'd suggest Python.
[14:53] <desu> newuser123 no, you can learn any programming language you want and still run your programs on linux.
[14:53] <eslu> Python / C / C++, are safe bets.
[14:53] <michealPW> Learn ANSI C and get hands on experience developing for Gnome, the underlying technology that Ubuntu's Unity builds on.
[14:53] <screwsss> PYTHON
[14:53] <neweruser123> python to make apps for Ubuntu ?
[14:53] <desu> You can
[14:53] <bekor> hey friends, using ubuntu 12.04 and having problems with slow boot tome any suggestions?
[14:53] <screwsss> bekor: www.google.com
[14:53] <bekor> boot time sorry
[14:53] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: ubiquity (the ubuntu installer) is coded in python, as is the software centre
[14:54] <mainerror> neweruser123: Yes, Python is quite easy to learn and you can write applications for Ubuntu with it. ;)
[14:54] <morsnowski> adaminsull, try a sudo apt-get update first
[14:54] <IdleOne> noone4:  Please stop sending dcc chat requests. if you have a support question ask it in the chanell
[14:54] <neweruser123> ok i dont know anything, so do i start somewhere or jump to python straight away
[14:54] <alecb> neweruser123: you can write programs in any language and have them run on ubuntu. or are you talking about making a lens for unity or something?
[14:54] <IdleOne> channel*
[14:54] <screwsss> PYTHON.
[14:54] <rexwin_> adaminsull, yes try apt-get update
[14:54] <mainerror> Well if you have no idea about Python, then I'd say learn the basics of Python and go from there.
[14:54] <desu> neweruser123: sorry, when I said C, I meant the kernel(as far as I can tell it's pretty much all C in there)
[14:55] <neweruser123> ok so can I use python to make a game?
[14:55] <desu> Yes
[14:55] <mainerror> Yes.
[14:55] <eslu> yep, you can.
[14:55] <rexwin_> make sure you are installing using sudo
[14:55] <neweruser123> and what about the graphics part?
[14:55] <desu> Any programming language can be used to do anything.
[14:55] <jc_> hello everyone
[14:55] <screwsss> float like a butterfly STING LIKE A PYTHON
[14:55] <alecb> neweruser123: http://www.pygame.org/news.html
[14:55] <food> neweruser123, Ubuntu is Linux , Linux is the Kernel and Kernel written in C. But we can make program in Any language ...
[14:55] <mainerror> neweruser123: There's libraries for that.
[14:55] <alecb> might be a helpful library for that
[14:55] <neweruser123> ok guys
[14:55] <ThinkT510> !rootirc | root____5
[14:56] <adaminsull> rexwin_: I did
[14:56] <craigbass1976> I keep getting disconnected notices, but it doesn't look like I'm really getting disconnected.  Someone else I know has this happen on a wireless network (my connection is eth0 -- cat5) and hers I guess actually DOES disconnect.
[14:56] <neweruser123> lets say my game is done in 6 months, how will i submit  it to the ubuntu store
[14:56] <Wug> ThinkT510: ~ means ident did not affirmative
[14:56] <neweruser123> for free of course
[14:56] <philinux> neweruser123: also see this http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tools/quickly/
[14:56] <Wug> he might have just typed root into the box
[14:57] <neweruser123> ok philinux
[14:57] <Wug> you should do that sometime, and see how annoying it is to have everyone flip out
[14:57] <OerHeks> Wug, no, it isn't the irc name.
[14:57] <Wug> OerHeks: its the ident field, the ~root@ part
[14:57] <luyang> does ubuntu have LAMP preintalled
[14:57] <eslu> Is it easy to port games from Ubuntu <--> Android, if it use the same kernel?
[14:58] <Wug> any irc client in the world will let you put whatever you want there
[14:58] <ThinkT510> eslu: no
[14:58] <jrib> luyang: you can choose to install it at install-time with the server install if you want. Or you can easily install it afterwards
[14:58] <ThinkT510> eslu: android uses a different libc and doesn't use X11
[14:58] <OerHeks> Wug, no, in this case 'root@' is the username.
[14:59] <desu> Isn't android just a whole lot of Java and some linux kernel?
[14:59] <Wug> OerHeks: no, it was ~root@
[14:59] <gms> Jisawesome_ how did you go finding those port forwarding options?
[14:59] <luyang> jrib: kthx, is the standard lamp installation secure?
[14:59] <Wug> (~root@122.162.77.255)
[14:59] <theadmin> I have a problem. Sound doesn't work in some of the videos and works in others. I tested with SMPlayer and VLC.
[14:59] <Wug> the squiggle indicates the ircd did not get an affirmative response from an ident server
[15:00] <OerHeks> Wug, i don't discuss this, i am right,
[15:00] <eslu> Hm okay, was hoping the same kernel would make it easier. As android is based on linux, and the next Playstation is probably based on linux aswell. (x86 architecture this time, if rumours are true)
[15:00] <danub> how can i sto pthe 15-20 second delay when ssh'ing to a system? after i put in my pass, it waits about 20 seconds before prompting for a password
[15:00] <Wug> which could mean either it's firewalled, or its spoofed
[15:00] <danub> is there a way to disable all authentication mechanisms besides keyboard?
[15:00] <gms> luyang lamp being "linux apache mysql php" the answer is no. you must go through and secure your box properly dont assume its secured
[15:01] <luyang> that sounds tedious
[15:01] <theadmin> Hm... Works in KMPlayer
[15:01] <neweruser123> i got another problem, no soun
[15:01] <neweruser123> sound in my computer for some reason
[15:02] <Wug> no OerHeks, you're wrong.
[15:02] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: check alsamixer see if anything is muted
[15:02] <Wug> I'm on a windows box, I don't have a root
[15:02] <bazhang> Wug, thats enough, move on
[15:03] <gms> it generaly is initialy. once you know what needs to be done you can develope scripts to help you speed things up. copying your shell log is one way of replicating many consecutive tasks. if you have ten files to edit adding ten lines of vi /etc/<file> etc is actualy easy as it prompts you along. faster then having to think about each step it reminds you. so i often dump bash logs to a new file and edit them up into shell scrip
[15:03] <gms> ts simply to catch dozens of cmd line options etc.
[15:03] <gms> saves time
[15:04] <tux9th> Hi, how can I create a bootable USB drive on windows that works for a machine with a 5 year old Bios.
[15:04] <tux9th> It has the option boot from USB
[15:04] <marcus> hello, why does a mmorpg with simple graphics lag on a new gaming computer, latest drivers linux ubuntu? :{
[15:04] <tux9th> but somehow it does not work
[15:04] <tux9th> is there anything I can do to make it work?
[15:04] <desu> marcus what game?
[15:04] <marcus> tibia
[15:05] <guest-4mic15> morning folks
[15:05] <desu> morning
[15:05] <handuel> just checking if typing root into the box works
[15:05] <handuel> wrong box :D
[15:05] <neweruser123> alsa is not muted
[15:05] <neweruser123> still no sound though
[15:06] <gms> neweruser123 sound?
[15:06] <zamba> ok, i tried upgrading from lucid to precise remotely.. and after running for a while the box suddenly disappears from the network
[15:06] <gms> slim?
[15:06] <zamba> Setting up console-setup (1.70ubuntu5) ...
[15:06] <zamba> update-alternatives: using /etc/console-setup/vtrgb to provide /etc/vtrgb (vtrgb) in auto mode.
[15:06] <zamba> that's the last output from it
[15:06] <guest-4mic15> in order to correct a gnome problem I tried to rename my /home/user folder and create a new empty one, thinking that this would force to gnome to create new  settings folders and then I could copy my files back in.
[15:06] <neweruser123> i have sound
[15:06] <neweruser123> i have no sound*
[15:06] <guest-4mic15> My problem is that now I can'T login with my username and password,  which file do I need to copy back to the new user folder for me to be able to login
[15:07] <Erealz> what the name of the unarchiveing gui tool in ubuntu  ?
[15:07] <jrib> guest-4mic15: did you make sure you created the new directory with the proper permissions?
[15:07] <guest-4mic15> Erealz,  , fileroller
[15:07] <Erealz> thanx
[15:07] <neweruser123> can someone help me with my sound problem
[15:07] <supaiku> I'm not trying to sound like a pric, but if most people had read the book or the instructions properly most of you wouldn't have problems
[15:07] <marcus> what to do with lag, simple mmorpg (tibia), on gaming computer? :{
[15:07] <guest-4mic15> jrib,  no I didn'T , that might be the issue  I use a live cd to do that job , let me try , thanks
[15:07] <neweruser123> over teamviewer perhaps
[15:07] <burdickjp> I'm booting the Kubuntu-active 12.10 install media on a Dell Latitude ST tablet.  I get a recurring error right before lightdm should be loading, saying "Bluetooth:  loading patch file failed"
[15:08] <burdickjp> this prevents me from inputting any commands
[15:08] <guest-4mic15> brb
[15:10] <Eagleman> Why was my certificate valid after 2 weeks instead of instant when i made it, I've chcked the date and time on the machine i made them and it only differed  1 or 2 hours?
[15:12] <marcus> what to do with lag on nvidia gaming computer? ubuntu .. :{
[15:12] <neweruser123> i still have no sound guys
[15:13] <gms> marcus try installing and enabling the propiatry driver for your card to enable acceleration options
[15:13] <gms> neweruser123 gimme a sec
[15:13] <iceroot> is there something like "autoit" to automaticly control the mouse and keyboard with a script nativ for ubuntu?
[15:13] <marcus> what command ? flgrx... or what was it :{
[15:13] <neweruser123> GMS, private msg me btw
[15:14] <gms> iceroot  autoit
[15:14] <peter_> salut
[15:14] <marcus> gms: u sure nvidia-current not sufficient ?
[15:15] <iceroot> gms: nativ? hm then i was not looking correctly on there website, thanks
[15:15] <iceroot> gms: as it seems "dogtail" is doing something like that too
[15:15] <OerHeks> thanks, IdleOne
[15:16] <Erealz> hey huys is there a  place im surei could fine some at pastebin but im wonder if there a stander for going to find scripts that would help admin there servers just looking for usefull scripts?
[15:16] <ThinkT510> Erealz: you'd need to have a task in mind for a script to be useful
[15:16] <Jisawesome_> GRR
[15:17] <gms> vladimir hasnt come back. i hope i didnt give him wrong advice on console-setup
[15:17] <Jisawesome_> I can not find my wireless password
[15:17] <iceroot> gms: http://www.autoitscript.com/site/autoit/downloads/   you are sure its nativ for ubuntu?
[15:17] <iceroot> gms: AutoIt has been designed to work on Microsoft Windows 2000/XP/2003, Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Windows Server 2008/2008 R2, Microsoft Windows 7. With no annoying runtime libraries required!
[15:17] <gms> Jisawesome_ turn the modem upside down see if its printed on the sticker. if it is and not the right one do factory reset then reconfigure
[15:18] <Erealz> general admin stuff security related anything usefull really?
[15:18] <gms> iceroot sorry wasnt thinking
[15:18] <gms> gary@home:~/Projects/cdn/bin$ autokey
[15:18] <gms> The program 'autokey' can be found in the following packages:
[15:18] <gms>  * autokey-gtk
[15:18] <gms>  * autokey-qt
[15:18] <FloodBot1> gms: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:18] <neweruser123> gms:  when your done just msg me ok?
[15:19] <gms> oops sorry didnt mean for that many lines
[15:19] <iceroot> gms: thx, will have a look
[15:19] <dougl> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc <- how do I undo that... since it does not work - cant believe everything you read on the internet
[15:19] <OerHeks> dougl, use ppa-purge
[15:20] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge
[15:21] <synister> hello everyone. i need some help, and i have tried it myself and i can't figure it out! can someone help me
[15:22] <Jisawesome_> Dont ask to ask
[15:22] <organixpear> Pear Linux is so awesome I wish they had a dedicated channel that I could rave on. Ubuntu is awesome too of course, without it the core "awesomeness" of Pear would not be possible.
[15:22] <synister> can anyone help?
[15:22] <bazhang> !alis | organixpear have a search
[15:22] <bazhang> synister, ask an actual question
[15:22] <Jisawesome_> We dont know what your problem is synister!
[15:22] <synister> installing a wireless driver in BT5
[15:23] <bazhang> synister, go to the bt channel. its not supported here
[15:23] <bazhang> !backtrack | synister
[15:23] <jc_> hello
[15:23] <bazhang> synister, /join #backtrack-linux
[15:25] <dougl> OerHeks, I tried that and the ppa that 404 are still there is there a gui frontend that I can manage them from?
[15:27] <adlightsaberha> http://techdigy.com/2012/10/27/ubuntu-12-10-vs-windows-8-which-one-benchmarks-ultimate-guide/ is this true that windows 8 boots up faster than ubuntu 12.10?
[15:27] <bazhang> adlightsaberha, discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[15:27] <OerHeks> dougl, after adding the ppa, did you update and install newer versions? then you need ppa-purge. if the PPA never worked, you can edit your sources  and remove it
[15:27] <adlightsaberha> bazhang: ok thanks
[15:29] <dougl> OerHeks, never worked - edit sources thru muon?
[15:29] <OerHeks> dougl, yes.
[15:31] <Jisawesome_> I sware, ATT tech support thinks I am the stupidest person on Earth
[15:31] <burdickjp> I'm booting the Kubuntu-active 12.10 install media on a Dell Latitude ST tablet.  I get a recurring error right before lightdm should be loading, saying "Bluetooth:  loading patch file failed"
[15:32] <iceroot> is there an easy way to find out at which pixel the mouse courser is at the moment? so that i can see the information mouse is at "1010 / 768" for example
[15:32] <pmcoleman> How do I disable the touch screen in 12.04 on HP Touchsmart (Quanta TouchScreen)? It stops Nautilus mouse events as soon as the screen is touched.
[15:34] <floogy_> Hi, I deleted with diskpart active under windows somehow  the extended partition. Then I used testdisk to get it back, but then I realised that it didn't recognized the first two primary well. Now I got overlapping partitions. How can I solve that?
[15:34] <floogy_> I can see the content of each partition, but cannot write the partition layout, because the structure is wrong.
[15:37] <OerHeks> iceroot There's a package called xdotool that has an application named getmouselocation, "sudo apt-get install xdotool" the command "xdotool getmouselocation "gives x,y
[15:37] <iceroot> OerHeks: perfect, thanks
[15:37] <dougl> OerHeks, never worked - edit sources thru muon? = yes -> said it could not be remove and to report as a bug
[15:38] <OerHeks> dougl, " kdesudo kate /etc/sources.list " should work
[15:39] <burdickjp> how do I turn off kernel errors from flooding the console
[15:39] <bazhang>  /etc/apt/sources.list dougl
[15:40] <OerHeks> ai, forgot the /apt/ , bazhang is correct, dougl
[15:41] <dougl> OerHeks, bazhang offending ppa (404'ers) are not there
[15:42] <bazhang> dougl, what about sources.list.d
[15:42] <me-1>  /msg NickServ identify london
[15:42] <awaad> Is there any command line installed on Ubuntu 12.04 by default that can play mp3 or wav files ?
[15:42] <OerHeks> me-1, change your password now.
[15:42] <dougl> bazhang, nope
[15:43] <dougl> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[15:43] <chadams> is there a launcher for ubuntu 12.10 with sub menus? I.e. instead of having 50 icons in a row, allow me to organize them into sub menus
[15:43] <chadams> something to replace the bar on the left
[15:43] <nothingspecial> burdickjp: you can set the message level
[15:43] <bazhang> dougl, pastebin your sources.list please
[15:43] <bazhang> !paste | dougl
[15:43] <nothingspecial> burdickjp: eg dmesg -n 1
[15:45] <awaad> Any one can help me by providing me ways to run mp3 from command line ?
[15:45] <dr_willis> chadams:  you could always use one of the various docks to replace the panel. or setup a launcher with a lot of quicklists. or use one of the classic-menu indicator type applets
[15:45] <dr_willis> awaad:  clarify what you mean.
[15:46] <OerHeks> chadams, look at this pic, it is the 2nd screen in dash, where you can select groups of software >> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dXAa6tLu4aY/UG2obCVRvvI/AAAAAAAAFuk/vIdkt2HJbmg/s1600/unity-dash-improvemenrs.png
[15:46] <awaad> dr_willis: I want a command line that can play MP3 file
[15:46] <gms> awaad mpg123 will work nicly
[15:46] <dr_willis> mpg321 - Simple and lightweight command line MP3 player
[15:46] <wols> !info moc
[15:46] <dr_willis> willis@SSDBuntu:~$ apt-cache search mp3 | grep command
[15:46] <dr_willis> ;)
[15:46] <wols> dr_willis: apt-cache search mp3 console. which will spit out the above package
[15:46] <gms> heh ^ even better
[15:47] <dr_willis> yauap - simple command line audio player based on GStreamer
[15:47] <dr_willis> never heard of that one.
[15:47] <x-newbie> hey i'm using irssi now!! how can i desactivate the ' join ,quit ' messages ?
[15:47] <wols> me neither, but when you already have bigass gstreamer, you don't care if it's on the console or not :)
[15:48] <bazhang> !quietirssi | x-newbie
[15:48] <chadams> dr_willis, too many clicks
[15:48] <dougl> bazhang, there is the list and the update command defining the 404 issues http://pastebin.com/QmBB2CKi
[15:49] <chadams> cario looks nice
[15:51] <x-newbie> d
[15:51] <x-newbie> great thX
[15:55] <user225533> How do I get ubuntu to run alongside windows?
[15:55] <dougl> user225533, one at a time either win or ubuntu?
[15:56] <user225533> I want it so I can rin wondows seven, and to run linux I have to click it from the win7 desktop
[15:56] <bazhang> user225533, use a virtualbox install?
[15:57] <dr_willis> vbox... souinds like to me
[15:57] <user225533> Whats a Virtualbox install?
[15:57] <bazhang> !vm | user225533
[15:58] <dr_willis> you can run ubuntu inside virtualbox on windows..
[15:58] <user225533> ubottu, what is the easiest method?
[15:59] <user225533> What is the easiest method of running linux and windows 7
[15:59] <dr_willis> virtual box or vmware. or some other vm. like qemu.
[15:59] <synister> can someone help me get to the back track chat server?
[15:59] <domie> wubi
[15:59] <dr_willis> he wants to run them both AT the SAME time...
[15:59] <user225533> How do I do the virtualbox??
[15:59] <dr_willis> so you need to use a vm.
[15:59] <domie> ah
[15:59] <bazhang> synister, /join #backtrack-linux
[15:59] <food> user225533, get virtualbox , it s free
[15:59] <dr_willis> go to the vbox homepage.. and read its docs/guides..
[15:59] <user225533> Where?
[15:59] <bazhang> user225533, here on freenode network
[16:00] <synister> bazhang im new to this so i need a bit of help getting there
[16:00] <bazhang> user225533, #vbox
[16:00] <dougl> bazhang, any thots on my 404 errors for my sources list?
[16:00] <user225533> Can someone please explain what is vbox?
[16:00] <Jisawesome_> !vbox
[16:00] <bazhang> synister, /join #backtrack-linux    <------ type that
[16:00] <dr_willis> user225533:  its a virtual machine..
[16:01] <dr_willis> user225533:  spend the time go to the virtualbox.org page and read up on it.
[16:01] <gms> virtual box. ity emulates a computer in software so you can install other operating systems on it
[16:01] <user225533> and how does it help me run windows seven and ubuntu linux?
[16:01] <nhanth91> how to bring messaging indicator back to xubuntu 12.10?
[16:01] <food> user225533, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[16:01] <bazhang> dougl, we seem to be missing a part of your sources.list
[16:01] <dr_willis> user225533:  you run linux IN the virtual machine
[16:01] <user225533> Yes but how do i do this
[16:01] <raj> sudo aptitude install nginx?
[16:01] <gms> or winblows in the virtual machine :P
[16:01] <asl^^> How would security updates be handled for the operating system and application software if the user doesn't have root password?
[16:01] <dr_willis> user225533:  its quite trivial.. go read its well done docs and guides at its homepage.
[16:01] <dougl> oh - how so bazhang ?
[16:01] <ThinkT510> !aptitude | raj
[16:02] <dr_willis> install vbox.. have vbox boot the iso.. install linux.
[16:02] <raj> good to know
[16:02] <raj> thank you
[16:02] <raj> sudo apt-get install nginx?
[16:02] <bazhang> user225533, you will have to do some minimal amount of reading
[16:02] <gms> asl^^ becouse by default the first account is part of the sudoers admin group
[16:02] <user225533> How can I contact UBUNTU?
[16:02] <raj> is there an issue that I've been using aptitude forever uptill now
[16:02] <kyle__> So, remmina has replaced vinagre.  Are there any plans to make it, you know, work?  So far it's unmittigated shit for VNC: it doesn't understand over half the security types used; the java applet gives better response times; it can't autonegotiate the color depth, it requires you select it.
[16:02] <raj> and all of a sudden I'm switching to apt-get?
[16:02] <dr_willis> user225533:  you may want to use lubuntu instead of ubuntu inside vbox
[16:02] <bazhang> user225533, we just told you.
[16:02] <raj> dr_willis, long time no see :)
[16:03] <bazhang> kyle__, no cursing here
[16:03] <nhanth91> how to bring messaging indicator back to Xubuntu 12.10
[16:03] <synister> OMG now it wont let me send messages to the back track server. i can see everyone in the server but i can't talk
[16:03] <user225533> How can I contact ubuntu?
[16:03] <asl^^> gms: i don't get it. if the user doesn't give the root password. how do they update the software or security of os
[16:03] <dr_willis> user225533:  clarify what you mean.
[16:03] <gms> wb neweruser123 howd it go?
[16:04] <bazhang> user225533, contact ubuntu ? what do you mean
[16:04] <kyle__> bazhang: Normally I'm quite polite with my language, but this is rediculus.  They replaced a critical, perfectly functional, but somehow distasteful (idiologically maybe?  Who knows) program with something that doesn't work.
[16:04] <gms> sudo <command>
[16:04] <Jisawesome_> gms, I am still here for when I finally figure out my password
[16:04] <neweruser123> gms:  no sound still
[16:04] <gms> coolies Jisawesome_
[16:04] <user225533> dr_willis: Like, how do I contact ubuntu by email, telephone ect
[16:04] <neweruser123> i think teamviewer is the option for me
[16:04] <neweruser123> i dont really know what im doing
[16:04] <gms> did you figure out port forwarding?
[16:04] <dougl> bazhang, is http://pastebin.com/SQAacUw1 more complete?
[16:04] <dr_willis> user225533:  check the ubuntu homepage and the contacts link/page perhaps/
[16:04] <Jisawesome_> I need my system password for it
[16:04] <Jisawesome_> its been an hour
[16:04] <kyle__> user225533: Try their website.  And for the love of Bob, stop repeating yourself.
[16:05] <nhanth91> how to bring messaging indicator back to Xubuntu 12.10?
[16:05] <gms> neweruser123 try to ask sombody here if not ill be back tomorrow highlight me a few times during the day at some point ill notice
[16:05] <gms> ill keep ur query open in the meantime so i can rember who you are :P
[16:05] <bazhang> dougl, I dont see the launchpad ppa that is causing the errors
[16:06] <neweruser123> gms:  ok
[16:06] <dougl> bazhang, but you see the errors in the first pastebin post?
[16:06] <bazhang> dougl, yep
[16:06] <asl^^> if a company migrate all the os to ubuntu. the users don't know the root password. When there is new security update or application update, how are you going to handle this?
[16:06] <dougl> bazhang, looks like 12.10 is broken?
[16:07] <dougl> bazhang, my 12.10 is broken?
[16:07] <asl^^> the users of the company don't have the password of root user. only the administrator has it.
[16:07] <bazhang> dougl, no. try the ppa-purge
[16:07] <mrblue> hello
[16:08] <bazhang> dougl, a simple error like that does not indicate broken, by any stretch of the imagination
[16:08] <gms> asl^^ as an administrator you can easly <passwd root> but not recomended otherwise use the primary admin account setup ssl keys and remotly ssh <host> "sudo update"
[16:08] <dougl> bazhang, broken too strong but for lack of a better term
[16:09] <neweruser123> anyone know how I can remove live wallpaper
[16:09] <gms> via a script of course
[16:09] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  what live wallpaper?
[16:09] <dougl> bazhang, I don't think that issue will have any effect on my system but that is one of many
[16:09] <neweruser123> can i show u on teamviewer
[16:09] <bazhang> dougl, perhaps check in synaptic package manager
[16:09] <neweruser123> i cant remember how i got it but its a live wallpaper
[16:09] <dr_willis> neweruser123:   you need to rember how you installed it.. then uninstall it.
[16:10] <mrblue> anyone can help to install namp.tar
[16:10] <neweruser123> i cant remember though it was some site
[16:10] <dr_willis> omgubuntu or webupd8
[16:10] <dr_willis> check your browser history
[16:10] <neweruser123> i think omgubuntu ?
[16:10] <desu> mrblue namp or nmap?
[16:10] <hhhzzzarn> neweruser123, you can remove live wall paper by following the guide on omgubuntu.co.uk
[16:11] <hhhzzzarn> neweruser123, someone in the comment mentioned how to remove the live wall paper.
[16:11] <asl^^> gms: is that mean i can only do update remotely? is it possible to make it auto update?
[16:11] <mrblue> desu nmap
[16:11] <neweruser123> hhhzzzarn:  where
[16:11] <linkandzelda> hi guys i think i have a problem with my package manager. it takes 5+ mins just to read package lists
[16:11] <neweruser123> oh i found it
[16:11] <desu> mrblue why mess around with the source when you can just install the package from the repos?
[16:12] <neweruser123> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install livewallpaper livewallpaper-config livewallpaper-indicator
[16:12] <neweruser123> is what i pasted
[16:12] <gms> asl~ try scheduling it with crond or somthing
[16:12] <hhhzzzarn> neweruser123, the article is on omgubuntu.co.uk go to the website and search for "live wallpaper" and the article should show. Then go to comments section and find the comment.
[16:12] <neweruser123> yeah i found it
[16:12] <gms> mayby you want to read up on ubuntu in the enterprise environment
[16:12] <raj> ah crap
[16:12] <gms> anyways im off to sleepy byes
[16:12] <raj> ubuntu's nginx is old as hell
[16:12] <gms> so laters
[16:12] <hhhzzzarn> bye
[16:12] <desu> night gms o/
[16:13] <bobweaver> Is there a way to tell apt to Not look for updates for certain packages from the repos ?  say I do not want to look for upgrades of Unity is there a way to tell apt to just never get thouse upgrades ?
[16:13] <ThinkT510> raj: what ubuntu version are you running?
[16:13] <neweruser123> i need some more helping remove this
[16:13] <neweruser123> theirs no command in the guide
[16:13] <hhhzzzarn> bobweaver, you should read the apt manual guide on ubuntu wiki/documentations.
[16:14] <bazhang> !pinning | bobweaver
[16:14] <hhhzzzarn> neweruser123, the commands are in the comment section (have to find it)
[16:14] <gms> neweruser123 did you try settings->apearance?
[16:14] <_cronus_>  asl^^, unattended updates
[16:14] <mrblue> desu how to install it using terminal
[16:14] <bobweaver> hhhzzzarn,  you should not tell people to read the effing mannual or at least give Links
[16:14] <desu> mrblue sudo apt-get install nmap
[16:14] <bobweaver> hhhzzzarn,  that is against the COC
[16:14] <asl^^> thanks gms
[16:14] <bobweaver> thanks bazhang
[16:15] <hhhzzzarn> Why would i search the link to the manual for you?
[16:15] <bazhang> hhhzzzarn, no need to respond then
[16:16] <bthornton> ahh, looks like I've entered a Linux chatroom. :)
[16:16] <bobweaver> hhhzzzarn,  all I am saying is that your commet to RTFM is not a good one and helps no one
[16:16] <mrblue> desu error install
[16:17] <bobweaver> again thanks bazhang  I see that I can use PiN-Priority Now and that is a great thing
[16:17] <desu> mrblue what's the output?
[16:17] <_cronus_> asl^^, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[16:17] <bthornton> Hey all. I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 on my Lenovo laptop, for which I have a dock that's connected to 2 monitors. Is there any (reasonable) way to have Ubuntu recognize when the laptop has been docked and switch to my external displays automatically? And then vice-versa for when I undock?
[16:17] <neweruser123> ok i found how to disable it not remove it
[16:17] <bthornton> In general, it seems like there's no support for docking with this hardware.
[16:17] <neweruser123> seems to be fine for now
[16:17] <hhhzzzarn> bobweaver, it is not against the COC (just mentioning).
[16:17] <ThinkT510> bobweaver: beware of what you are pinning, it could cause dependency issues later
[16:17] <bobweaver>  /ignore hhhzzzarn
[16:17] <devish> hi all, i have a bit unusal problem , i am trying to make an desktop icon for eclipse but the image is not coming at all instead a ? comes\
[16:17] <devish> any clue
[16:18] <bobweaver> ThinkT510, I just can image
[16:18] <neweruser123> does anyone know how I can remove openjdk and get sun java?
[16:18] <neweruser123> im looking to play a java game
[16:18] <bekks> neweruser123: And it wont run with OpenJDK?
[16:18] <ThinkT510> !java | neweruser123
[16:18] <ArchOpenBox> devish: I just download a image from google and replace the image.
[16:18] <bobweaver> neweruser123,  you do not need to remove you can have both and use update-alternitives to use both
[16:18] <neweruser123> on the site it says usesun  Java
[16:19] <mrblue> desu in writting the file is not found in the directory E
[16:19] <bekks> neweruser123: Then first just try to use OpenJDK.
[16:19] <ArchOpenBox> devish: vector images are the best for icons.
[16:19] <hhhzzzarn> neweruser123, go to software center, and remove "openjdk" then follow a guide (many available online) to install sun java.
[16:19] <bobweaver> neweruser123,  like "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[16:19] <abailarri> I just installed ubuntu 12.04, but the pc hangs!!!
[16:19] <crqd> i changed the default player to vlc, but mp4s still open in totem. How do i change it to open in vlc? i amchanging in details>default apps
[16:19] <neweruser123> " The jar is executable and might work as-is. If you run into memory issues, try launching it with java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame, also please use Sun's JVM."
[16:19] <neweruser123> i want to allocate 4gb Ram
[16:20] <devish> ArchOpenBox: the icon is of type xpm
[16:20] <bekks> neweruser123: And...?
[16:20] <bazhang> crqd, right click mp4 check properties play with/open with
[16:20] <devish> ArchOpenBox: i am giving its path correctly "Icon=~/Documents/eclipse/icon.xpm"
[16:20] <bekks> neweruser123: Minecraft runs with OpenJDK and 4GB is just wasting RAM. :)
[16:20] <devish> b ut it does not show up
[16:21] <neweruser123> i have 8gb should be ok to waste some more
[16:21] <crqd> i know that, but how can i change the default dclick action to open in vlc
[16:21] <bobweaver> neweruser123, again you can have both installed and just call the one that you want to use example    sudo update-alternatives --config java       pick the one you want to use   then run   java --version   to see what version you are useing :)
[16:21] <bekks> neweruser123: Do you have 64Bit Ubuntu?
[16:21] <neweruser123> yeh
[16:21] <ArchOpenBox> devish: adjust icon size. does this help. Some images are bigger and cant display in smaller desktop settings.
[16:21] <desu> mrblue sorry I had to get my laptop charger, did you say anything?
[16:22] <_cronus_> devish, had the same problem. i had to give it the full path
[16:22] <bekks> neweruser123: There is no benefit in wasting that much RAM to minecraft.
[16:22] <neweruser123> ok 2gb then
[16:22] <bazhang> crqd, this will accomplish that, set as default
[16:22] <neweruser123> this is what problem I get "The file '/home/tan/Downloads/minecraft.jar' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."
[16:22] <mrblue> desu what's his problem because I installed my linux along with windows 7 on my laptop so there are two OS then its not found
[16:22] <bekks> neweruser123: And just try the OpenJDK first.
[16:22] <neweruser123> i just did -_-
[16:23] <desu> mrblue dual boot has nothing to do with you being able to install packages from the repos...
[16:23] <crqd> there's no set as default option, and i tried doing open with and the next dclick it just opens in totem again
[16:23] <desu> Minecraft doesn't work with OpenJDK as I understand it.
[16:23] <bobweaver> desu +1
[16:23] <desu> +1?
[16:24] <bazhang> crqd, 12.10? gnome?
[16:24] <bobweaver> juju charm works good for minecraft I hear
[16:24] <raj> ThinkT510, Not sure, 11.04 I think
[16:24] <raj> I'm on a T410 btw ;)
[16:24] <crqd> yes, i went to details and vlc is default for video
[16:24] <crqd> still opens in totem
[16:24] <mrblue> desu oohh what I have to put it in the tar file document linux system
[16:24] <linkandzelda> guys my machine has been "reading package lists..." for the last 13 mins and its only 47%. This task used to be almost instant, what can i do?
[16:24] <bekks> neweruser123: You cannot execute a jar file.
[16:24] <ThinkT510> raj: what is the output of lsb_release -sd
[16:25] <bekks> neweruser123: java -jar minecraft.jar
[16:25] <bazhang> crqd, then set as default is certainly a choice. lower right hand of properties box
[16:25] <bekks> neweruser123: Thats not a OpenJDK/SunJDK problem.
[16:25] <bazhang> linkandzelda, change mirrors
[16:25] <neweruser123> its working
[16:25] <neweruser123> but crap i updated the game damn
[16:25] <bekks> neweruser123: And...?
[16:26] <desu> mrblue the tarball is only if you want to install from source, quick question do you have 32 bit or 64 bit os?
[16:26] <crqd> the buttons are find apps online, cancel, select and show other apps
[16:26] <linkandzelda> bazhang, i have a feeling its the gnome ppa i added yesterday, im not sure how to remove it
[16:26] <hhhzzzarn> neweruser123, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
[16:26] <neweruser123> bekks:  nothing I accidentaly updated nothing to do with java it self
[16:26] <bekks> hhhzzzarn: He doesnt need a server. :)
[16:26] <desu> mrblue also which version of ubuntu?
[16:26] <hhhzzzarn> bekks, oh he just wants to play the game?
[16:27] <mrblue> my versions ubuntu 12.10
[16:27] <neweruser123> im already running a server
[16:27] <hhhzzzarn> neweruser123, then you don't need to allocate that much ram for playing it.
[16:27] <gaetano> #ubuntustudio
[16:27] <mrblue> desu my versions ubuntu 12.10
[16:27] <bekks> hhhzzzarn: Correct.
[16:27] <neweruser123> hhhzzzarn:  ok just thought it would help out more
[16:27] <bekks> hhhzzzarn: Thats what I already told him.
[16:27] <hhhzzzarn> bekks: ok.
[16:27] <bobweaver> neweruser123,  this is a cloud based server ?
[16:28] <devish> ArchOpenBox: _cronus_ : i beleive full path + size both were the problem , i made the size to default and gave the full path then its done
[16:28] <devish> and once the icon is there i can resize the launccher on my wish ;)
[16:28] <neweruser123> bobweaver:  no the hosting thing you have to buy not sure what it is
[16:29] <neweruser123> i need to allocate more ram i think
[16:29] <bekks> neweruser123: Why?
[16:29] <mrblue> what is with you no download link nmap.tar
[16:29] <desu> mrblue http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/amd64/nmap/download
[16:30] <bekks> neweruser123: More RAM is only useful for the server instance, not for the clients.
[16:30] <neweruser123> i can see a slight difference in performance while playing on windows and ubuntu
[16:30] <desu> assuming you have amd64, not sure if you answered that question or not...
[16:30] <desu> i mean 64 bit cpu.
[16:30] <bekks> neweruser123: And how do you expect RAM to change that...?
[16:30] <bobweaver> neweruser123,  nevermind then but in the future (If you like ) there is a easy thing to use called a juju charm that are services for the cloud but if this is just local server then forget about it till you go to cloud if you do that is. You can read Marco blog about it here later if you like.  http://marcoceppi.com/2011/11/deploying-the-minecraft-charm/
[16:31] <neweruser123> bekks:  i saw on youtube more ram made the game load more smoother
[16:31] <_cronus_> devish, nice. good to know.
[16:31] <user552233> exit
[16:31] <bekks> neweruser123: I do not believe in videos other people cheated. :)
[16:31] <gaetano> hello everyone! someone knows how can i get skype for free? because in software center its only for a fee
[16:32] <_cronus_> devish, maybe you could file a bug report if you get the time ;)
[16:32] <bekks> !skype | gaetano
[16:32] <bazhang> !info skype partner | gaetano
[16:32] <bazhang> enable the partner repo gaetano
[16:32] <bazhang> !partner > gaetano
[16:32] <raj> ThinkT510, 11.04
[16:32] <neweruser123> bekks:  its definately real though,  my question now is how would I find the .appdata
[16:33] <ThinkT510> raj: 11.04 is no longer supported
[16:33] <ThinkT510> !eol | raj
[16:33] <bekks> neweruser123: maybe ask the minecraft guys ;)
[16:33] <neweruser123> any here?
[16:33] <devish> _cronus_: now eclipse is open so rest is close, + i leave this for the people to figure out :D
[16:34] <bekks> neweruser123: Maybe in #minecraft
[16:34] <neweruser123> i mean like in WIndows u go to the directory windows > appdata > roaming
[16:34] <desu> neweruser123 hi.
[16:34] <raj> ok, but I'm just wondering what the best way is to get the latest nginx
[16:34] <opalepatrick> using 12.10 unity - the hud seems almost unusable because the drawing of icons has slowed hugely (when looking for a app for instance). Working in things like gimp and getting commands is fine) Is this a bug?
[16:34] <ThinkT510> raj: use the latest ubuntu
[16:34] <neweruser123> i still have no audio in ubuntu :s
[16:35] <raj> ThinkT510, that's a pretty drastic way to get the latest nginx :
[16:35] <desu> what version?
[16:35] <raj> :)
[16:35] <ThinkT510> raj: we can't support 11.04
[16:35] <neweruser123> desu what do u mean
[16:35] <bobweaver> opalepatrick,  do you know how to run a test like with "UTAH" to see for bugs ?  or test by running "unity --replace"  and reading the output ?
[16:36] <raj> it's dangerous for me to just update my ubuntu though
[16:36] <raj> things could really break
[16:36] <bekks> raj: Then create a backup :)
[16:36] <hhhzzzarn> neweruser123, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[16:36] <desu> neweruser123 I mean what version of ubuntu are you using? 12.04 12.10 or?
[16:36] <neweruser123> 12.04
[16:36] <hhhzzzarn> neweruser123, http://askubuntu.com/questions/132577/no-sound-in-ubuntu-12-04
[16:36] <desu> and what's your audio hardware?
[16:36] <ThinkT510> raj: if you use unsupported versions then you need to deal with the consequences
[16:37] <raj> dum dum dummmm
[16:37] <ThinkT510> raj: the support schedule for all ubuntu releases is very clear
[16:37] <n1> anyone syncs his/hers thunderbird or any calendar with a phone via bluetooth?
[16:37] <mrblue> desu already be installed ok now thank
[16:37] <n1> or to be more precise, using a blueZync?
[16:38] <opalepatrick> I dont bobweaver but I can find out
[16:38] <linkandzelda> bazhang, i'm using the GB mirrors which is my country, yet its still being slow as hell, ive even removed all the extra ppa's that i added o-o
[16:38] <bobweaver> opalepatrick,  I am unity dev. what I do is watch it in the app output in qtcreator I will paste link brb
[16:38] <desu> mrblue np
[16:39] <opalepatrick> cheers bobweaver
[16:39] <bobweaver> opalepatrick, http://askubuntu.com/questions/181474/now-that-i-built-unity-how-do-i-install-it/196023#196023
[16:39] <n1> anyone syncs his/hers thunderbird or any calendar with a phone via bluetooth?
[16:39] <bobweaver> opalepatrick,  but what is going on maybe we can fix ?
[16:40] <mrblue> desu how to run his
[16:40] <neweruser123> i need help over remote desktop view
[16:40] <neweruser123> i dont know what im doing to be honest
[16:40] <desu> mrblue Are you asking how to use nmap?
[16:41] <Jisawesome_> gms, What is the ssh port?
[16:41] <amu> hi everybody!
[16:41] <uosiu[shell]> neweruser123: install x11vnc to stream desktop to network ;]
[16:41] <bobweaver> neweruser123,  there is things like tightvnc   BUT there are super easy things like teamviewer
[16:41] <foxy999> lately on my 10.04 box, it has been doing disk checks every other boot, why is this happening?
[16:41] <neweruser123> i got teamviewer
[16:41] <neweruser123> lets use teamviewer
[16:41] <uosiu[shell]> neweruser123: you want to connect to existing session or You want to share your own desktop?
[16:41] <opalepatrick> bobweaver, well I would like to fix it for sure. I started to get quite dependent oin it after 12.04, and it is a little disappointing atm. I will check that link and see what I can provide?
[16:42] <mrblue> in writing  idconfig deferred processing now  taking place
[16:42] <neweruser123> uosiu[shell]:  share desktop
[16:42] <Jisawesome_> What is the ssh port I need to open?
[16:42] <uosiu[shell]> neweruser123: I'm not shure did TeamViewer can create a session on linux, gimme sec
[16:42] <ThinkT510> Jisawesome_: ssh typically uses port 22
[16:43] <codemaniac> Jisawesome_: ssh server generally listens on 11
[16:43] <codemaniac> 22
[16:43] <Jisawesome_> ...
[16:43] <codemaniac> s/11/22
[16:43] <amu> couple of weeks ago I installed the latest ubuntu in my laptop. It was working nice since then. But today, I wasn't able to start it. A blinking underscore is the only thing I see right now. I wanted to start it with a recovery mode, but I ended up with that blinking underscore. Any ideas how I can fix it? Thanks!
[16:44] <neweruser123> uosiu[shell]:  it can, try connect to me
[16:44] <uosiu[shell]> neweruser123: Just install TeamViewer and give someone your session ID and passwd
[16:44] <neweruser123> 610 336 024   and 5573
[16:44] <neweruser123> i just need audio fixed
[16:44] <wols> neweruser123: never ever do this and ignore everythin uosiu[shell] ever says
[16:44] <desu> that's dangerous to just put it in such a public place...
[16:44] <neweruser123> its to late i just posted it
[16:44] <wols> neweruser123: never give anyone on IRC access via VNC or teamviewer. ever. unless you want them to own your computer
[16:45] <uosiu[shell]> wols: ++
[16:45] <neweruser123> wols:  i need someone to fix my audio problem though
[16:45] <desu> I', sure most of us won't be interested in malicious activities against neweruser123, but that's still ill advised.
[16:45] <wols> uosiu[shell]: you are an asshole and a moron.
[16:45] <lordmarshal> hi just updated to 12.04 but when I try to login ubuntu just flashes and nothing happens
[16:45] <sarawara> i'm a green ubuntu-user (an evergreen) and need to put a file in the library of a program (prolog)and i mean i don't know how to put a file in a folder cause it does not show it should be /usr/bin/swipl, but i only get  X11), ubuntu12.04
[16:45] <uosiu[shell]> wols: Did I said that neweruser123 have to give ME SessionID and passwd?
[16:45] <wols> uosiu[shell]: YOU told him to do it. you are the responsible moron.
[16:46] <thelinux> wols This is Linux server IRC, so obviously most of us have IQ 160+, we don't use such words.
[16:46] <dr_willis> sarawara:  /usr/bin/swipl would be a file. not a directory in most cases
[16:46] <neweruser123> no one has connected yet i am still waiting
[16:46] <wols> neweruser123: for your own safety: stop it
[16:46] <thelinux> I mean only I have , but still.
[16:46] <lordmarshal> How do I fix login flashing after 12.04 update
[16:46] <codemaniac> neweruser123: use pm
[16:46] <neweruser123> who should I pm
[16:46] <wols> no one
[16:47] <thelinux> Anyone having problems with 12.10?
[16:47] <n1> anyone syncs his/hers thunderbird or any calendar with a phone via bluetooth?
[16:47] <desu> hahaha linux requiring a high intelligence quotient to use, that's funny.
[16:47] <bobweaver> neweruser123,  there is also google hangout
[16:47] <xangua> !anyone | thelinux
[16:47] <dr_willis> lordmarshal:  clarify what you mean.. you login and it then goes back to the login screen? try making a new user see if they work. try the guest account>
[16:47] <fantaghir> thelinux, localedef falling down
[16:47] <uosiu[shell]> wols:  <osiu[shell]> neweruser123: Just install TeamViewer and give someone your session ID and passwd → Logic for IT, Wroclaw University of Technology, semester 1: someone == person You want to give those data.
[16:47] <diensthunds> has anybody done a pxe server setup and used nbd-server rather then nfs-kernel-server?
[16:47] <codemaniac> neweruser123: do not paste these type of information on public channels
[16:47] <neweruser123> ok codemaniac
[16:47] <lordmarshal> HELLo how to fix ubuntu not logging in 12.04
[16:47] <neweruser123> how do i change my root password
[16:47] <sarawara> dr_willis where is the directory prolog is in then?
[16:48] <uosiu[shell]> neweruser123: sudo su - then passwd
[16:48] <wols> !root
[16:48] <bobweaver> neweruser123,  there is no Root passwrd think of it like that
[16:48] <lordmarshal> Dr Willis the guest account works
[16:48] <fantaghir> neweruser123, sudo passwd root
[16:48] <lordmarshal> But not my regular
[16:48] <dr_willis> sarawara:  no idea. the prolog binary should be in some bin dir. but its support dirs.. not in bin
[16:48] <ThinkT510> uosiu[shell]: never advise that please
[16:48] <bobweaver> !root | neweruser123
[16:48] <xangua> !noroot | fantaghir
[16:48] <fantaghir> yes, sudo passwd username
[16:48] <neweruser123> ok done
[16:48] <diensthunds> ok more to the point I need to know how to tell the livecd that is being exported by the nbd server to look for the system via the hard drive rather then /dev/sr0
[16:48] <dr_willis> lordmarshal:  try makinga new user - see if it works for them- if so . then one of your problem users settings or files is the issues. Commonly its the .Xauthority file thats to blame. try removeing/moveing it perhaps.
[16:49] <aetcore> Can you not become Ubuntu Certified anymore?
[16:49] <neweruser123> i still need someone who can connect to my machine to fix the audio problem though
[16:49] <codemaniac> neweruser123: before fiddling with root account please see the manual https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:49] <bekks> aetcore: I doubt you ever could.
[16:49] <thelinux> aetcore You can.
[16:49] <AlanL> I have a quick logout question (ubuntu 12.10) after xubuntu install for desktop environment.
[16:49] <desu> neweruser123 No need for that, root account is disabled by default. Though sudo/su can grant you root.
[16:49] <bekks> thelinux: Really?
[16:49] <sarawara> dr_willis, how can you find a folder when you don't know it's name exactly? where are programs installed?
[16:49] <xangua> neweruser123: you're not gonna get that thype of help here
[16:49] <wols> codemaniac: it's already too late thanks to "experts" like fantaghir and uosiu[shell]
[16:49] <bobweaver> aetcore,  for store or something else ?
[16:49] <thelinux> bekks: Yes.
[16:49] <dr_willis> sarawara:  try the locate command. ive never used prolog. so no idea where it does stuff
[16:49] <aetcore> thelinux: they have removed the online courses from Canonical Store
[16:50] <wols> xangua: he will. by people who need a enother proxy or botnet CC
[16:50] <dr_willis> sarawara:  'locate prolog' perhaps.
[16:50] <thelinux> aetcore: Oh.
[16:50] <uosiu[shell]> !wfm
[16:50] <neweruser123> ive been on the IRC for hours now though i just need my audio fixed
[16:50] <fantaghir> wols, thx bro :D
[16:50] <desu> out of curiosity what irc clients do you guys prefer?
[16:50] <bobweaver> aetcore,  there was alot of talk abut making Ubuntu developer videos at this paste UDS keep your eyes on the youtube channel
[16:50] <aetcore> thelinux: the equiv to becoming Redhat Cert. about 6 months ago they used to have Online Courses starting from 800 YSD
[16:50]  * kyle__ sighs.
[16:50] <lordmarshal> Dr Willis??????
[16:50] <bekks> !audio | neweruser123
[16:50] <diensthunds> sarawara: what is it you are trying to do find a particular file?
[16:50] <thelinux> neweruser123: What's your audio problem?
[16:50] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  and what have you done to try to fix it yourself? you are assuming someone can just connect and magically fix it?
[16:51] <dr_willis> lordmarshal: >??
[16:51] <bekks> neweruser123: Did you already follow those links?
[16:51] <aetcore> bobweaver: thanks for that i will check it out :)
[16:51] <opalepatrick> bobweaver, I think I might do that as a last resort, as I would have to go on a learning curve. In the meantime, I think I would like to resolve? Just a time thing tbh
[16:51] <neweruser123> dr_willis:  yes i think so
[16:51] <AlanL> Really think I will be wasting my time in here lol
[16:51] <fantaghir> neweruser123, have U tried pavucontrol?
[16:51] <uosiu[shell]> Hmmmm, Why Ubuntu disabled root passwd? It is ubuntu-only idea, not described in FHS etc...
[16:51] <kyle__> OK.  Anyone using xfce or other gnome desktop on 12.10, could you try something for me to test a bug?  I want to see if it's xubuntu specific, or at a deeper layer.
[16:51] <bekks> neweruser123: Nothing in this world can be magically fixed :)
[16:51] <wols> sarawara: linux doesn't put programs into single directories. documentation is under /usr/share/doc binaries under one of various /bin directories, librearis in a /usr/lib or somilar, etc.
[16:51] <thelinux> aetcore: Nice.
[16:51] <Tuplario> Hi, I just updated to 12.10 and I can no longer mount my NAS. The Kernel says  Connecting to DFS root not implemented yet. Any ideas on how to fix it?
[16:51] <neweruser123> im not sure i install pulseaudio and alsa-base and restarted did all updates/upgrades also
[16:51] <wols> sarawara: you can see where everything goes with e.g. "dpkg -L <packagename>" for ubuntu packages
[16:51] <kyle__> Edit your main menu (the one with all the applications), and uncheck an item in a sub-menu.  See if your choice was reflected in the menu.
[16:51] <n1> how to install an nederbird addon if it's not available in the addons list, yet have the package
[16:51] <neweruser123> i checked the settings and still no sound
[16:52] <bekks> neweruser123: Did you follow the links you've just been given?
[16:52] <n1> ...an thunderbird addon
[16:52] <bobweaver> opalepatrick,  you can run "ubuntu-bug unity" then when you get to launchpad it will ask you to descibe bug then you can see if there is one like it out there all ready also , hope that heklps
[16:52] <thelinux> Guys leave neweruser123 alone, he asked a normal question, no need to be rude.
[16:52] <neweruser123> bekks:  im viewing one of them now
[16:52] <opalepatrick> thanks bobweaver
[16:52] <bekks> thelinux: I am not rude at all - I am just asking a question.
[16:52] <fantaghir> neweruser123, and some lspci or sth to see if aaudio is there?
[16:52] <aetcore> neweruser123: have you unmuted your sound :) also are you speakers registering?
[16:53] <aetcore> your**
[16:53] <fantaghir> aetcore, that was good one
[16:53] <neweruser123> i am using built in speakers in my monitor
[16:53] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  so they are hdmi connected?
[16:53] <aetcore> connected via USB or Audio Out?
[16:53] <bekks> neweruser123: Did they ever work until now?
[16:53] <sarawara> for my class i need to insert a file (i'm a beginner and the prof has given a file we cannot write ourselve) to put in the library
[16:53] <neweruser123> yes HDMI connection and works in Windows
[16:53] <maanda_> gnome classic or unity?
[16:53] <neweruser123> but when i boot into ubuntu no sound available
[16:54] <xangua> maanda_: unity is a shell for gnome
[16:54] <codemaniac> sarawara: cannot you use the copy
[16:54] <fantaghir> maanda_ unity? depends on your preferences?
[16:54] <aetcore> neweruser123: http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/04/14/audio-over-hdmi-and-displayport-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[16:54] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  for my hdmi monitor. i have to run the pavucontrol program then seledt  it as the output device on the output devices tab.
[16:54] <sarawara> i could use copy if i'd know where to put it
[16:54] <codemaniac> sarawara: have you tried cp ?
[16:54] <kyle__> maanda_: For my bug?  Gnome classic
[16:55] <fantaghir> xangua, is it? I thought shell is command prompt
[16:55] <neweruser123> is pavucontrol also palsepaudio?
[16:55] <gaetano> wich is the best program for developers like dreamweaver in windows?
[16:55] <thelinux> maanda_: Quite depends on your taste, Unity is a lot eye candy and has new useful features.
[16:55] <neweruser123> PulseAudio*
[16:55] <codemaniac> sarawara: what exactly you trying to achieve ?
[16:55] <dr_willis> !find pavucontrol
[16:55] <neweruser123> i am using KDE
[16:55] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  its a spefific tool that configures pulse audio
[16:55] <linkandzelda> reading package lists for 44 mins now...
[16:55] <martinux> Hi, i am on ubuntu 12.04 and want to create a folder in my /usr folder. How can i do this? The option is currently greyed out when i right click in the folder
[16:56] <neweruser123> dr_willis:  what is the sudo command to download it
[16:56] <thelinux> maanda_: I used to really like gnome classic (and still do), but I got used to Unity and have seen how great actually is.
[16:56] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  now is the first time you seem to mention that rather large fact about kde,
[16:56] <bekks> martinux: Why do you want to create a folder in the system folder /usr ?
[16:56] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  sudo apt-get install packagename
[16:56] <decbot> gaetano: are you writing html/css or are you working in something like java and c?
[16:56] <ThinkT510> martinux: why do you want to create a folder there?
[16:56] <sarawara> codemaniax, i do not use commands very often, so i'm not very good at it, but i could try, copy seems pretty straight forward, but i'd need the name of the directory to put it in. I need to put a file in the folder of swipl, in it's library
[16:56] <neweruser123> what about kde? and whats the package name called again
[16:56] <dr_willis> neweruser123:   and the packaetg name is  pavucontrol
[16:56] <thelinux> martinux: Go to terminal, type sudo nautilus, and you will get root access to every folder there.
[16:56] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  kde uses differnt sound system i belive.. i dont use kde.
[16:57] <neweruser123> should i delete KDE
[16:57] <xangua> !gksu | thelinux martinux
[16:57] <neweruser123> and go to ubuntu unity
[16:57] <martinux> bekks: I am new to ubuntu and i am just choosing a random folder to install Java. Anything but /home/username goes, really.
[16:57] <diensthunds> sarawara: you should have a message
[16:57] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  you may want to switch to unity  to see if sound works in it.
[16:57] <sarawara> codemaniax and i do not know where the swipl is
[16:57] <neweruser123> how do i switch
[16:57] <codemaniac> sarawara: does the destination folder "swipl" exists ?
[16:57] <aetcore> neweruser123: login screen
[16:57] <desu> martinux in terminal "sudo mkdir /usr/<foldername>" otherwise "gksudo nautilus(assuming you're using gnome)" to run nautilus as root.
[16:57] <ThinkT510> !java | martinux
[16:57] <neweruser123> i dont have login screen its autoboot
[16:57] <thelinux> xangue ubottu: Thanks for heads up.
[16:57] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   to install the full ubuntu desktop. then logout and select ubuntu at the login screen
[16:57] <neweruser123> ok
[16:57] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  and disable the lame auto-login on the login screen
[16:57] <thelinux> xangua ubottu: *
[16:58] <martinux> Thank you very much guys
[16:58] <maanda_> thank you.., i am finding it hard to settle to just one, both get the job one way or another..
[16:58] <gaetano> decbot: im working with HTML/CSS and java and PHP
[16:58] <neweruser123> ok dr_willis
[16:58] <codemaniac> sarawara: you can use the find command, find -name "swipl" -type d -print 2>/dev/null
[16:58] <aetcore> you could also specify gnome-desktop inside your xinitrc cant you?
[16:58] <codemaniac> to find the directory on your system
[16:58] <thelinux> martinux: Why are you making a folder in usr, if I may ask?
[16:58] <neweruser123> ok i get this Default display manager:                                                      │
[16:58] <neweruser123>  │                                                                               │
[16:58] <neweruser123>  │                                    kdm                                        │
[16:58] <neweruser123>  │                                    lightdm
[16:58] <neweruser123> oops sorry for that
[16:58] <FloodBot1> neweruser123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <dr_willis> aetcore: .xinitrc is only used for specific sessions selected from the login screen, or from startx
[16:59] <aetcore> neweruser123: did you install ubuntu desktop already?
[16:59] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  use lightdm
[16:59] <sarawara> codemaniac, i'll try
[16:59] <neweruser123> ok i chose lightdm
[16:59] <aetcore> dr_willis: yeah i actually from Arch :) ubuntu is the server of choice :)
[17:00] <aetcore> actually come from**
[17:00] <decbot> gaetano: geany might be as close as you get to dreamweaver. some people might use eclipse.  but even something like gedit, emacs, or vim could work
[17:00] <dr_willis> geany has some nice fetures,
[17:00] <abailarri> does anyone know how to connect to a wifi with the terminal?
[17:00] <bobweaver> you can install dreamweaver with playonlinux ?
[17:00] <thelinux> dr_willis: Yes, I've been using geany, it's great.
[17:00] <aetcore> Sublime Text 2 is an awesome Editor
[17:00] <dr_willis> abailarri:  with the various iw* commands
[17:01] <decbot> gaetano: but I don't know of anything of the top of my head that does code completion and site synchronization
[17:01] <martinux> thelinux: No reason, really. Just finding a folder to install programs in. What folders is 'standard' for installing programs in?
[17:01] <neweruser123> am i allowed to install photoshop cs6 using WIne?
[17:01] <aetcore> Sublime has code completetion, and rsync could do site syncs ?
[17:01] <dr_willis> martinux:  depends on what you are installing.  user binaries can go in 'bin' in their home.
[17:01] <aetcore> :)
[17:01] <ThinkT510> martinux: package managers do that for you
[17:01] <bobweaver> Yeah you can install dreamweaver 8 with play on linux
[17:02] <neweruser123> My KDE looks so NICE
[17:02] <neweruser123> will i lose it
[17:02] <phillllijw> my computer is in standby mode... how do I wake it up?
[17:02] <ThinkT510> !appdb | neweruser123
[17:02] <thelinux> martinux: Install software in your home directory, you may damage something there. Software will automatically install in root.
[17:02] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  you select whatver desktop you want at the login screen
[17:03] <martinux> thelinux: ok thanks
[17:03] <desu> I prefer awesome window manager.
[17:03] <aetcore> desu: xmonad is good to
[17:03] <gaetano> decbot: ok thanks! so they are right for develop site!?
[17:03] <Marikos> afternoon gents
[17:03] <aetcore> have you trued both? Which one do you perfer?
[17:03] <Marikos> this has me tearing my hair out....
[17:03] <abailarri> i installed ubuntu 12.04, but the pc freezes all the time and I have to restart
[17:03] <Marikos> trying to install 12.10 as a dual boot with my win 7
[17:03] <desu> aetcore I've heard of it, but haven't tried it myself yet.
[17:03] <neweruser123> only Adobe Photoshop CS2 works under steam according to wineHQ, cant i use the latest CS6 ?
[17:04] <IRneon> exit
[17:04] <decbot> gaetano: well, it's not as complete as dreamweaver, but better than window's notepad and OSX's textedit
[17:04] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: check the appdb or ask in #winehq
[17:04] <kolaracdn> can someone help me out
[17:04] <neweruser123> how do i join #winehq
[17:04] <desu> so guys, how to de-frag hard drive on linux? xD
[17:05] <Marikos> I tried using the installer to boot up and it would on;t boot back into windows
[17:05] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: /join #winehq
[17:05] <decbot> gaetano: it will do the syntax highlighting, but it won't always catch bad code
[17:05] <allu3> Marikos: so you installed first ubuntu. then win7
[17:05] <Marikos> no
[17:05] <decbot> gaetano; and you'll have to use something like gftp or rsync to upload/download your site files
[17:05] <kolaracdn> how can I make an ubuntu backup server that backs up my windows server files every night
[17:05] <Marikos> allu3: Win 7 came preinstalled, used the installer to repartition and install ubuntu
[17:05] <thelinux> desu: You don't need to defragment harddrive in linux. One of the reason why Linux is more superior than Windows.
[17:05] <hpprinter100> Hey
[17:05] <allu3> Marikos: and now it still bots to windows?
[17:06] <ThinkT510> desu: not required really, you could use fsck
[17:06] <hpprinter100> any steam beta testers here? :)
[17:06] <allu3> Marikos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair might just do the trick :)
[17:06] <kolaracdn> how can I make an ubuntu backup server that backs up my windows server files every night
[17:06] <neweruser123> i have steam
[17:06] <desu> thelinux (I know, but I was hoping others that weren't aware would become aware by reading the responses)
[17:06] <dr_willis> !backup | kolaracdn
[17:06] <Marikos> allu3: It was only booting to windows, yes.  So I used EasyBCD to ass an entry for ubuntu to the windows bootloader, and when i try to boot there, it complains about missing or corrupt files
[17:06] <thelinux> hpprinter100: I applied with that survey, looks I didn't get in.
[17:06] <Marikos> allu3: I'll check that out.  I'm nooted into the live CD atm
[17:06] <gaetano> decbot: are these programs findable on ubuntu software center?
[17:07] <kolaracdn> that has nothin to do with my issue
[17:07] <allu3> Marikos: great since you can run that utility from live session :)
[17:07] <thelinux> hpprinter100: Did they even let beta to those 1000? I can't find any information about that, since even I applied.
[17:07] <kolaracdn> the ubuntu server is the backup server i want it  to go out and copy the windows files to it
[17:07] <thelinux> desu: Ok.
[17:07] <bekks> kolaracdn: Mount the windows shares and back them up. Or use a full blown solution like Bacula.
[17:07] <desu> I'm a bad person.
[17:08] <decbot> gaetano: I think so, I know they are in synaptic
[17:08] <HawkDoom> help
[17:08] <HawkDoom> I installed kiwix - it does not open the file *. zim
[17:08] <dr_willis> !info kiwix
[17:08] <Marikos> allu3: I'll try that, waiting for the installer to finish, was trying a reinstall
[17:08] <hpprinter100> thelinux: shame was hopeing they would release it after widnows 8
[17:09] <desu> rm -rf /*
[17:09] <allu3> Marikos: check first if the reinstallation worked, if you still have problems you can then try again with the live cd :)
[17:09] <furycd001> HI i just installed ubuntu via netinstall & i'm looking to create a custom session with xcompmgr & awn. Can anyone tell me how to do this from the command line that i am currently on :?  I already have xcompmgr & awn installed, i just ned to know how to create a custom session...
[17:09] <bekks> !danger | desu
[17:09] <hpprinter100> desu great command lol
[17:09] <desu> I like you bot :)
[17:09] <gaetano> decbot: so here in ubuntu there is not a program good like deamwaver for develop sites!? do u suggest to install windows alongside ubuntu if i need to develop!?
[17:09] <bekks> !ops | desu
[17:10] <dr_willis> furycd001:  make a .xsession (or was it .Xsession)  and startx should use that file to run whatver X apps you want.
[17:10] <desu> what?
[17:10] <gordonjcp> desu: be careful about saying stuff like that, because *someone* out there is stupid enough to do it
[17:10] <gordonjcp> desu: probably as root, at that
[17:10] <dr_willis> furycd001:  if using a login screen you can make a custome Xwhatever.desktop session file
[17:10] <Finnish_> How to use xar, I don't know how to extract with it, here is the man: http://pastebin.com/LBg6gxTk
[17:10] <desu> Sorry, I wanted to see if the bot would warn people.
[17:10] <Finnish_> I want to extract a dmg-file
[17:10] <bekks> Finnish_: xar -xf filename
[17:11] <desu> didn't add in the sudo in case of uneducated curious users.
[17:11] <furycd001> dr_willis: how do i make a .xsession :?
[17:11] <kyle__> desu: I did that for fun once on a system I was going to wipe, as a normal user.  Wanted to see what happened.  All it did was remove that user.  Dissapointing.
[17:11] <dr_willis> furycd001:  its a simple text file.
[17:11] <Finnish_> bekks, OK, thanks, I'll give it a co
[17:11] <Finnish_> go
[17:11] <dr_willis> furycd001:  example (2 lines)    xterm &     exec icewm
[17:11] <allu3> gaetano: http://www.linuxalt.com/linux-alternatives-to/windows/dreamweaver.html
[17:11] <gordonjcp> kyle__: yeah
[17:12] <Tm_T> desu: this is a warning: do not ever post such commands here, with sudo or not, thank you
[17:12] <furycd001> dr_willis: How do i create this txt file :?
[17:12] <gordonjcp> kyle__: and tbh it does you good to accidentally do rm -rf * in your homedir every now and again
[17:12] <Finnish_> bekks, Thanks alot!!!
[17:12] <desu> Tm_T alright, thanks for the warning, but is there anyway of seeing what the bot will react to?
[17:12] <dr_willis> furycd001:  err... with whatever text editor you like... You sure you shouldent be spending some time learning more basic skills if this is new to you?
[17:12] <gordonjcp> kyle__: it clears out all the crap you haven't worked on for too long, and all the important stuff should be backed up or in version control anyway ;-)
[17:12] <gaetano> allu3: thanks!
[17:12] <gordonjcp> desu: pm it
[17:13] <ArchOpenBox> that sucks we missed out on crossweaver give away of software for games. :( and 12 months free support
[17:13] <desu> you can do that!?
[17:13] <ThinkT510> desu: the bot only responds to commands
[17:13] <kyle__> gordonjcp: Heh. Depends on how good you are at backing up....but then again the people who are overly anal about backups probably don't have that much cruft lying around.
[17:13] <ThinkT510> !msgthebot | desu
[17:13] <furycd001> haha im not new to linux, but im new to building a system from scratch...
[17:13] <dr_willis> ArchOpenBox:  whats amazing is that freeday  was the first time id crossover mentioned in AGES...
[17:13] <kyle__> gordonjcp: rsync backups or lvm snapshots?  Which do you do?
[17:13] <dr_willis> first time ive seen crossover mentioned in ages.. ;)
[17:13] <gordonjcp> kyle__: rsync because I'm lazy
[17:14] <decbot> gaetano: you can run dreamweaver in wine if you must have dreamweaver. In linux, you're more likely to use more simple tools to accomplish a task than using a single complex tool like dreamweaver
[17:14] <HawkDoom> as double-clicking on the display nickname in the box? xchat..
[17:14] <kyle__> gordonjcp: i don't htink it's lazy.  It's a taste thing.  Some systems I like the snapshots, sometimes I do periodic rysnc backups.
[17:14] <gordonjcp> kyle__: frequently I do tar c | ssh <server> "tar x"
[17:15] <Deluxo> Hello!
[17:15] <Deluxo> Im here to tell an import thing
[17:15] <gordonjcp> kyle__: incidentally that's an excellent way of copying files with spaces in their names across the network ;-)
[17:15] <fantaghir> Deluxo, Hi
[17:15] <ArchOpenBox> dr_willis: Hey well they run the code for Mac using linux kernel and port windows games to mac users now. So they big money now. Get all the richy rich kids that could careless to hack computer games.
[17:15] <gaetano> decbot: is wine a virtual machine?
[17:15] <raj> how do you uninstall something I apt-get installed before?
[17:15] <gordonjcp> gaetano: no, it's a set of libraries
[17:15] <gordonjcp> raj: apt-get remove
[17:15] <ThinkT510> gaetano: no, it is a compatibility layer
[17:16] <raj> thanks
[17:16] <decbot> gaetano: so, in linux I use geany and vim to edit my html/css/javascript/php, use chrome and firefox to view the edits, and use gftp to upload the changes to my site
[17:16] <piglit> what linux games are easy to install and nice to play?
[17:16] <kyle__> heheh.
[17:16] <bobweaver> gaetano, If you are new to wine I 100% suggest looking at playonlinux
[17:16] <dr_willis> ArchOpenBox:  macs use  BSD as the core last i looked...
[17:16] <Deluxo> on CCSM changing the: Vblank, Vertex Buffer, frame buffer switching to off causes better unity and compiz performance on i5 core!
[17:16] <bobweaver> !info playonlinux | gaetano
[17:16] <gordonjcp> decbot: if you find yourself doing that a lot, look at a deployment framework like fabric
[17:17] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: a very lose definition of bsd
[17:17] <gordonjcp> decbot: and don't use ftp
[17:17] <Deluxo> on CCSM changing the: Vblank, Vertex Buffer, frame buffer switching to off causes better unity and compiz performance on i5 core!! Please someone who has a rank of somes sort of inform the unity taem
[17:17] <Deluxo> as this is not a bug
[17:17] <decbot> gaetano: wine "Wine Is Not an Emulator" ... it is not a virtual machine, but an application that lets you run native windows binaries in linux
[17:17] <Deluxo> but a matter of default preference on out of the box settings
[17:17] <desu> ah I like this bot.
[17:17] <sarawara> codemaniac i do not understand your :  find -name "swipl" -type d -print 2>/dev/null, but with the 'locate prolog ' of diensthunt i get (amongst many other like these) /usr/lib/swi-prolog/xpce-6.6.66/prolog/lib/pce_image.pl
[17:17] <dr_willis> piglit:  the various humble bundles often have nice linux games. :) been playing Rochard lately
[17:17] <bobweaver> Deluxo,  maybe tell others in #ubuntu-unity ?
[17:18] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: actually it's a Mach microkernel, with a userland somewhat derived from FreeBSD
[17:18] <Deluxo> sure
[17:18] <Deluxo> going there now
[17:18] <thelinux> decbot: Exactly, name itself says it, but people always tell otherwise.
[17:18] <dnk123> how do you setup an ubuntu server that allows ubuntu desktops to login (like the windows Active Directory) and allows them to access their home directories
[17:18] <Deluxo> bobweaver: Sure going there now
[17:18] <dr_willis> gordonjcp:  all stuff i dont worry about. :) since i wont own a mac.
[17:18] <bobweaver> Deluxo,  there is also auto testing things like UTAH  that are out there
[17:18] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: the point is, they don't run BSD
[17:18] <piglit> dr_willis: i'll google them
[17:18] <bekks> dnk123: By creating multiple accounts on the box the users log in at.
[17:18] <piglit> thanx
[17:19] <dnk123> so i cant create user accounts on the server so people can sign in on a client machine
[17:19] <decbot> gordonjcp: gftp supporst ssh2, yeah, I know what you mean
[17:19] <gaetano> decbot: so with wine i can even run photoshop cs6?
[17:19] <thelinux> bobweaver: He should try crossweaver, they giveaway now free copy of it.
[17:19] <bobweaver> Deluxo,  https://launchpad.net/utah
[17:19] <ThinkT510> !appdb | gaetano
[17:19] <gordonjcp> decbot: you can do some sneaky deployment tricks with git, too ;-)
[17:19] <ArchOpenBox> dr_willis: your right ,but think of how easy it was to port over linux code to mac run BSD.
[17:20] <neweruser123> nooooooooooooo still no sound
[17:20] <neweruser123> i switched to ubuntu desktop
[17:20] <thelinux> gaetano:  Download crossweaver, they giveaway now free copies of it.
[17:20] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  and you ran that pavucontrol tool?
[17:20] <raj> how do I uninstall a ppa installed package?
[17:20] <neweruser123> wait il run it now
[17:20] <bobweaver> thelinux,  I have never tried crossover But I do hear good things also on that project
[17:20] <ArchOpenBox> thelinux: 24 hrs is up. :(
[17:20] <ThinkT510> !ppa-purge | raj
[17:20] <ArchOpenBox> thelinux: 24 hrs is up. :(
[17:20] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  that was sort of the whole point of going to unity was to run that tool. ;)
[17:20] <thelinux> ArchOpenBox: I can send you my free copy if you want it?
[17:21] <neweruser123> pavucontrol is pulseaudiocontrol right?
[17:21] <raj> ThinkT510, `sudo: ppa-purge: command not found`
[17:21] <decbot> gaetano: winedb.org has the offical answers. I've ran Photoshop CS5.5 in wine, and I know Illustrator in CS5.5 will not run, but I havent tried dreamweaver
[17:21] <ArchOpenBox> thelinux: hmm... would love it! is it a tar ball?
[17:21] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  no.. its pavucontrol
[17:21] <dr_willis> run  pavucontrol  from the terminal...
[17:21] <dr_willis> no idea what the icons may be named...
[17:21] <ThinkT510> raj: install ppa-purge first
[17:22] <thelinux> ArchOpenBox: I actually downloaded all linux versiosn of it ;) I have bin and tar ball.
[17:22] <thelinux> *versions
[17:22] <neweruser123> how do i run pavucontrol whats the command
[17:22] <dr_willis> pavucontrol  IS the command....
[17:22] <neweruser123> i totaly know nothing about ubuntu
[17:22] <ArchOpenBox> thelinux: how to get it from you?
[17:22] <gaetano> decbot: and where i find wine? on software center?
[17:22] <neweruser123> yeah how to "run" it ?
[17:22] <dr_willis> open a terminal and type it in...
[17:22] <ThinkT510> gaetano: yes
[17:22] <decbot> gaetano: it should be there
[17:22] <thelinux> ArchOpenBox: Is it possible to send from here files?
[17:23] <Marikos> allu3: well that explains it... for some reason the 12.10 i have isn't efi compatible...
[17:23] <dr_willis> or use the alt-f2 run dialog..
[17:23] <raj> thank ThinkT510, that was it
[17:23] <ArchOpenBox> dccsend,but you need a server to request file the last time I remember running dcc send
[17:23] <dr_willis> or click the big dash icon and type it in. ;)
[17:23] <thelinux> ArchOpenBox: I'm sending you.
[17:23] <basketballstar> can i root my android from ubuntu
[17:24] <dr_willis> basketballstar:  with some phones. Yes.. #android may know more
[17:24] <thelinux> ArchOpenBox: I have, deb, rpm, bin and tar. You're using arch?
[17:24] <neweruser123> dr_willis:  i cant get it working
[17:24] <neweruser123> can u show me on teamviewer
[17:24] <ArchOpenBox> I distro jump so tar ball will do for compiling
[17:24] <raj> I removed the nginx package using `sudo apt-get remove nginx` and the ppa using `sudo ppa-purge ppa:nginx/stable`, but `nginx -v` still spits out a version
[17:24] <codemaniac> sarawara: sorry i was afk for a while
[17:25] <raj> not sure what's wrong here
[17:25] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  nope... open a terminal, type in the command - hit return... whats not working with it?
[17:25] <codemaniac> sarawara: have you been able to locate the directory ?
[17:25] <Guest91114> everytime i go for installing 12.04 it shows an error and installation stops
[17:25] <decbot> gaetano: check out winedg.org, it will have the answers and the best help on how to get CS6 running in linux
[17:25] <jcase> my remote desktop service seems to have died or locked up while I was working on an image, I still am connected over ssh. Any idea on how to restart the remote desktop server, so i can get in and save the image I'm working on
[17:25] <jrib> raj: dpkg -S $(which nginx)
[17:25] <neweruser123> i cant hear any sound
[17:25] <Guest91114> i tried alternatives and many times but not able to install it
[17:25] <Guest91114> how to change the name ?
[17:25] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  so you DID run the command?
[17:25] <raj> nginx-full: /usr/sbin/nginx
[17:26] <neweruser123> yes i ran it
[17:26] <raj> jrib ^^
[17:26] <dr_willis> did you look in the output devices tab?
[17:26] <Guest91114> how to change the nickname ?\
[17:26] <thelinux> ArchOpenBox: I don't have tar, only bin for arch.
[17:26] <gaetano> decbot: ok! thank u for help!
[17:26] <ArchOpenBox> thelinux: bin is fine! ;)
[17:27] <jrib> raj: that's package responsible for it.  If you do « sudo apt-get autoremove » that package should get removed (assuming when you installed nginx, you just requested the "nginx" package).  But you can also just go ahead and remove the nginx-full package explicitly if you prefer
[17:27] <thelinux> ArchOpenbBox: I'm sending accept it ;)
[17:27] <neweruser123> ah damn still no sound...
 how to change the nickname here ?
[17:27] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  did you actually change anything>
[17:27] <neweruser123> yes dr_willis
[17:27] <neweruser123> everything..
[17:27] <dr_willis> Guest91114:  /nick BillGatesIsMyDad
[17:27] <neweruser123> i have been on IRC for over 3 hours now
[17:28] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  does output devices tab show a HDMI device?
[17:28] <neweruser123> yes but no audio comes out
[17:28] <GatesIsMyDad> ok
[17:28] <GatesIsMyDad> I'm ok with this
[17:28] <ArchOpenBox> thelinux: that didn't work
[17:28] <GatesIsMyDad> i no longer need help, as i don't need to work anymore
[17:28] <raj> jrib: raj@raj-ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove nginx
[17:28] <raj> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:28] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  youa re playing somnthing thats making sound right now>
[17:28] <GatesIsMyDad> my dad is rich
[17:28] <GatesIsMyDad> thanks
[17:28] <raj> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:28] <thelinux> ArchOpenBox: Do you have skype?
[17:28] <neweruser123> yes i put a mp3 in repeat
[17:28] <jrib> raj: that usually means you have update-manager or some other apt process running
[17:29] <Kiranvotio> i am facing the probelm with the installation of 12.04
[17:29] <thelinux> ArchOpenBox: Or should I send you this over email to protect your privacy?
[17:29] <Kiranvotio> i copied the image using the startup creator
[17:29] <ArchOpenBox> thelinux: I'll message you in private
[17:29] <Kiranvotio> still not able to install cause it aborts at the middle of the process stating that error 05
[17:29] <sarawara> codemaniac: is the second 'lib' the library of prolog in this line?  /usr/lib/swi-prolog/xpce-6.6.66/prolog/lib/pce_image.pl
[17:30] <neweruser123> im giving up with ubuntu
[17:30] <raj> jrib, oh sorry, I opened synaptic
[17:30] <neweruser123> im going back to windows
[17:30] <raj> jrib, however, it's saying Package nginx is not installed, so not removed
[17:30] <dr_willis> neweruser123:  while playing the sounds. on the 'playback tab' do you see a sound meter moveing at the bottom?
[17:30] <jrib> raj: you should just do « sudo apt-get autoremove »
[17:30] <neweruser123> yes i see it moving
[17:30] <neweruser123> but no audio comes out
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[17:30] <Kiranvotio> why
[17:30] <sarawara> exactly what i always thing when using windows neweruser123
[17:30] <bekks> neweruser123: Did you unmute your speakers in Ubuntu?
[17:31] <neweruser123> they arent muted
[17:31] <neweruser123> they never were muted
[17:31] <neweruser123>  i have had no sound for 1 month
[17:31] <bekks> neweruser123: Did you check with alsamixer and pavucontrol?
[17:31] <raj> jrib, http://paste.ofcode.org/KEYRmHDhu887cHpPVCzE4H
[17:31] <codemaniac> sarawara: in Unix file systems lib/ contains system or application libraries
[17:31] <neweruser123> i checked both yes
[17:31] <sarawara> that is a yes?
[17:31] <jrib> raj: look at what you typed
[17:31] <raj> omg
[17:31] <raj> yes
[17:32] <raj> jrib, http://paste.ofcode.org/Yr7NveUJ9xwk4gtVUE2PUL
[17:32] <sarawara> i mean codemaniac if i put the file there, my other programs will be able to read that file?
[17:32] <jrib> raj: then just do: sudo apt-get remove nginx-full
[17:32] <neweruser123> i dont know any one fix the problem
[17:32] <ThinkT510> raj: you still on 11.04?
[17:32] <neweruser123> ive talked to like 6 people and yet no one knows
[17:33] <codemaniac> sarawara: make sure the lib/ has been included in the $PATH variable too
 what is your problem?
[17:33] <neweruser123> no sound -_-
[17:33] <codemaniac> so that system can recognize your file
[17:33] <raj> jrib, now `nginx -v` does gives `bash: /usr/sbin/nginx: No such file or directory
[17:33] <raj> `
[17:33] <jrib> raj: do a « hash -r »
[17:33] <Kiranvotio> i faced the same problem but selecting the device will helps
[17:34] <raj> beautiful
[17:34] <raj> thanks
[17:34] <Kiranvotio> <newuser123
[17:34] <ArchOpenBox> neweruser123: Last time I seen audio problems was with linux mint had to reload driver. Before that was with 9.10 ubuntu and Amorka
[17:34] <neweruser123> its a hdmi connection to my monitor to graphics card
[17:34] <Jisawesome_> I created a web server with ubuntu server, but I can only acces it from my networki
[17:34] <dr_willis> try a normal analog connection/speakers - see if they work. it maybe some odd hdmi bug.
[17:35] <neweruser123> i am normal analgue stereo output
[17:35] <neweruser123> the settings
[17:35] <raj> jrib, now I did `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/stable`, but `nginx -v` gives output as though i don't have nginx installed
[17:35] <carrera> Hi, can anyone tell me how to enable FFM in 12.04 please?
[17:35] <jrib> raj: that command only adds a repository to your software sources; it doesn't install anything
[17:35] <raj> oh
[17:36] <raj> ok
[17:36] <raj> so after that i need to apt-get install it
[17:36] <neweruser123> can anyone just please connect to my machine
[17:36] <neweruser123> this is the last chance to fix it
[17:36] <newbie__> got some problem in transmission client on ubuntu 12.04
[17:36] <neweruser123> then i cant be bothered with ubuntu anymore
[17:36] <newbie__> cant set he proxy server
[17:37] <Jeregge343> really?
[17:37] <ArchOpenBox> neweruser123: With xbox 360 had to use both hdmi and speaker connection. Hand to cut protective case around hdmi to get stereo inline to reach... Hopefully you wont have to do that with a video card
[17:37] <newbie__> got some problem in transmission client on ubuntu 12.04
[17:37] <newbie__> cant set he proxy server
[17:37] <neweruser123> i doubt it
[17:37] <neweruser123> ok how can I delete Ubuntu from my harddrive
[17:38] <Jeregge343> sory, anybody have link with drivers to ubuntu
[17:38] <thelinux> neweruser123: Format it over BIOS
 install windows ]
[17:38] <Jeregge343> to main board
[17:38] <neweruser123> Kiranvotio:  i already got both dualboot
[17:38] <Jeregge343> sorry for my bad english
[17:38] <neweruser123> would I go into harddrive partitioner and delete all ubuntu partitions
[17:39] <thelinux> Jeregge343: I don't think you need drivers for motherboard, Linux will usually work out of the box.
[17:39] <Jisawesome_> I created a web server with ubuntu server, but I can only acces it from my networki
[17:39] <ArchOpenBox> neweruser123: can delete partition in windows.. with partition manager
[17:39] <Jeregge343> ok thx
[17:39] <neweruser123> but if i turn on the PC, it will have GRUB installed wont it
[17:39] <neweruser123> and not the default boot
[17:39] <Kiranvotio> if you are planning to install fresh windows then it'll work if you format ubuntu parttions it will posr a grub problem
[17:39] <Jeregge343> anybody zna polski??
[17:39] <Kiranvotio> newuser123
[17:39] <Deluxo> nie
[17:39] <neweruser123> i need to remove grub + ubuntu
[17:40] <kyle__> Jeregge343: What drivers were you worried about?  The only things that sometimes need addition files/drivers are certain wifi or sound cards.  And those can (usually) be fixed by apt-get installing the right firmware package.
[17:40] <Jeregge343> och sorry nie wiedziałem
[17:40] <kyle__> neweruser123: You need to re-install another bootloader if you want to remove grub.
[17:40] <Kiranvotio> thats not possible newuser123
[17:40] <Jeregge343> i need driver to  souncard
[17:40] <neweruser123> the default windows bootloader?
[17:40] <Jeregge343> *soundcard
[17:40] <kyle__> Jeregge343: Do you know which soundcard it is?
[17:40] <Kiranvotio> how to install another bootloader kyle_ ?
[17:40] <kyle__> Jeregge343: lspci will help.
[17:41] <ArchOpenBox> neweruser123: hope you backed up system! :)
[17:41] <neweruser123> i have no important files
[17:41] <handuel> 'ello
[17:41] <kyle__> Kiranvotio: No idea.  I'm still bitter about grub replacing lilo.
[17:41] <thelinux> Jeregge343: Why do you need drivers? Almost every hardware works out of the box.
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> neweruser123, What windows release do you have right now?
 hello
[17:41] <neweruser123> windows 7
[17:41] <neweruser123> i might get 8 not sure..
[17:41] <JohnJ> I am trying to make a live boot device with 12.10 on Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger). I downloaded Ubuntu, followed the instructions to create a bootable USB stick which all worked successfully, however the computer says it cannot read the device. So I tried burning a CD with the boot image (again, as per instructions) and again the computer does not recognise it. Any idea what's up?
[17:42] <Jeregge343> kyle this is integrated in msi g41m-p28
[17:42] <handuel> I really wouldn't get windows 8
[17:42] <Jisawesome_> I created a web server with ubuntu server, but I can only acces it from my networki
[17:42] <neweruser123> il be back in ubuntu in 1 year to see if the audio problem is fixed...
[17:42] <neweruser123> for now i just need to remove it
 i faced that probem many times everytime i left with the option of linux or windows fresh installation
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> neweruser123, If you do not have a install disc go to baskup in W7 and make a recovery disc for loading the MS bootloader.
[17:42] <aetcore> Jisawesome_: are you on Ubuntu Server or Desktop?
[17:42] <ArchOpenBox> neweruser123: Not in my lifetime windows 8 has major problems.
[17:42] <Jisawesome_> ubuntu server
[17:42] <kyle__> Jeregge343: Have you installed linux yet, or are you waiting until you know if there is a sound driver for that card?
[17:42] <handuel> aetcore: he said server
[17:43] <neweruser123> ok forget win8, il stick to 7
[17:43] <Kiranvotio> newuser123 problem can be solved
[17:43] <Jeregge343> no i not
[17:43] <neweruser123> how Kiranvotio
[17:43] <aetcore> Jisawesome_: are you on a public network or private network?
[17:43] <Jisawesome_> i am on my home wifi
[17:43] <Kiranvotio> try to select the different devices from the list it may works
[17:43] <Kiranvotio> i faced a simia r kind of probelm
[17:44] <neweruser123> already tried
[17:44] <neweruser123> i had this problem 1 month
[17:44] <cecco> ciao
[17:44] <Kiranvotio> which version of ubuntu u r using
[17:44] <Kiranvotio> ?
[17:44] <neweruser123> 12.04
[17:44] <handuel> neweruser123: : what soundcard is it
[17:44] <aetcore> Jisawesome_: everyone on your wifi should be able to see your web server, however you need to port forward your router if you want anyone outside of your wifi to see your webserver
[17:44] <kyle__> Jeregge343: It's got onboard Intel ICH7 audio.  THat's worked out of the box for years.  You don't need anything special, just install.
[17:44] <neweruser123> i dont know its a graphics card to monitor
[17:44] <neweruser123> xfx HD 6870
[17:44] <neweruser123> monitor has built in speakers
[17:45] <Jisawesome_> Thanks aetcore
[17:45] <handuel> neweruser123: what model of computer
[17:45] <neweruser123> amd motherboard socket FM1 (APU)
[17:45] <neweruser123> its a custom build
[17:45] <handuel> neweruser: ah...
[17:45] <neweruser123> yh?
[17:45] <Jeregge343> thx
[17:46] <handuel> neweruser123: that makes things more tricky with drivers
[17:46] <aetcore> neweruser123: lol still going? how long have you had ubuntu installed? you could install it from scratch using gnome and you *might* get a little further
[17:46] <leon1984> Excuse,when i used the firefox after a period of time,i can't open the right click menu and drop-down menu.How to solve it? My system is ubuntu 12.04
[17:46] <handuel> neweruser123: you must have a sound card though
[17:46] <neweruser123> handuel:  built in audio i use
[17:46] <neweruser123> aetcore:  i can do that from scratch but how?
[17:47] <aetcore> handuel: hes using his moniter, and hes using hdmi, which falls under some gfx drivers
[17:47] <handuel> aetcore: ah kk
[17:47] <handuel> neweruser123: do u know what graphics card it is
[17:47] <Jeregge343> i have one more question
[17:47] <kyle__> aetcore: Hu.  I never actually looked into how to set that up (audio over hdmi).  Have you?
[17:47] <neweruser123> yes its HD 6870  brand is XFX
[17:47] <kyle__> Jeregge343: Shoot.
[17:48] <aetcore> neweruser123: i was suggesting you download the iso, burn it to USB and try reinstalling directly, OR actually i have a better idea
[17:48] <aetcore> have you got the live cd?
[17:48] <neweruser123> i can burn a new CD
[17:48] <Jeregge343> wher i can scherch driver to hp laserjet 3150
[17:48] <aetcore> boot into the live cd, which will load the drivers for your card anyway
[17:48] <handuel> kyl__ come to think of it I have audio from my monitor, it just worked out of the box though, so I never thought about it
[17:48] <blazemore> How can I edit the items that start up after login, but from the terminal?
[17:48] <aetcore> then load up chrome and go play some tunes on youtube
[17:49] <neweruser123> ok
[17:49] <rephy222> what does apt-get autoremove do??
[17:49] <aetcore> kyle__: no i havnt, not yet anyway
[17:49] <subman> Any idea why I would not be able to open up ports 6666-6669?  I have opened succcessfully
[17:49] <blazemore> I have an Ubuntu box plugged into my TV and I want to autoload XBMC but I have no keyboard and mouse. I do have ssh access though
[17:49] <Kiranvotio> x
[17:49] <neweruser123> I need to install the AMD/ATI Catalyst driver can someone tell me how
[17:49] <wols> Jeregge343: http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[17:49] <subman> Any idea why I would not be able to open up ports 6666-6669?  I have opened successfully many other ports but these I don't seem to be able to.
[17:49] <blazemore> neweruser123: search in the Dash for "jockey"
[17:49] <Kiranvotio> quit
[17:50] <kyle__> Jeregge343: Is it a business printer?
[17:50] <Jeregge343> oh thx
[17:50] <thelinux> blazemore: Check Ubuntu TV is you own a Smart TV.
[17:50] <blazemore> Kiranvotio: you want /quit
[17:50] <aetcore> neweruser123: by using the live cd you will be able to find out if gnome + ati drivers will support your HDMI cable, otherwise you might be stuck soundless, unless you start to custom patch your kernel etc
[17:50] <thelinux> blazemore: if*
[17:50] <jrib> subman: you should say how you are trying to open them since no ports are blocked  on ubuntu by default
[17:50] <wols> Jeregge343: http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_3150
[17:50] <blazemore> thelinux: No it's just a normal TV, I just am using a small PC as a media centre
[17:50] <aetcore> neweruser123: if the default packages arent working that might be the only way (Kernel patching)
[17:50] <neweruser123> il reinstall ubuntu gnome or unity
[17:50] <handuel> jrib: im pretty certain ports are blocked on ubuntu
[17:50] <blazemore> I just want it to autoload XBMC but have no keyboard and mouse. I do have shell access
[17:50] <aetcore> neweruser123: you dont have to go through all of that
[17:51] <neweruser123> its quicker
[17:51] <kyle__> Jeregge343: Looked it up it's not supported on anything but windows.  Shame.  THey used to all support PCL or PS emulation.
[17:51] <aetcore> if you just use the livecd to boot you will find out sooner
[17:51] <jrib> handuel: no services are running by default, sure.  But there are no firewall rules up by default.
[17:51] <Kiranvotio> no
[17:51] <thelinux> blazemore: Ok. I've been using XBMC.
[17:51] <Jeregge343> sorry bat i don't now what you mean  'buissnes printer'
[17:51] <handuel> jrib: no, newer releases use ufw, which blocks ports
[17:51] <jrib> handuel: hmm
[17:51] <aetcore> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[17:51] <aquethys> Does anyone know how to boot into BIOS to boot from CD on an hp pavilion dv6-7043? I've tried holding F2/F10 @ startup and it doesn't work...one of them even makes my computer display a screeching sound.
[17:51] <handuel> jrib: I had to open port 80 with sudo ufw allow 80 to use my webserver
[17:51] <Fraz> hi
[17:52] <aetcore> aquethys: tried del?
[17:52] <neweruser123> ok igot this file "amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run" how do i run it?
[17:52] <aetcore> and or tab?
[17:52] <aquethys> k I will
[17:52] <aquethys> thanks
[17:52] <aquethys> brb
[17:52] <Fraz> why would i be getting sscrambled up graphics in ubuntu?
[17:52] <kyle__> Jeregge343: If you want to look at which printers are supported by CUPS (and theirfore linux, OSX, BSD, etc) look at  http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[17:52] <kyle__> wols: I see you somewhat beat me to that.
[17:52] <aetcore> neweruser123: can you run it?
[17:52] <jrib> handuel: on what? 12.10?
[17:52] <neweruser123> aetcore:  how do i run it?
[17:52] <wols> kyle__: and his printer is a paperweight
[17:52] <handuel> jrib: 12.04
[17:53] <aetcore> double click it lol :s im not sure
[17:53] <Jeregge343> an one more times i say thx
[17:53] <handuel> neweruser: open a terminal
[17:53] <aetcore> whats the file extension?>
[17:53] <wols> jrib: threw me too. couldn't believe it
[17:53] <kyle__> wols: If you have the right firmware on the jet direct card you can network-scan from it still..... I know. Doesn't help much.
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[17:53] <handuel> change to file location with cd
[17:53] <handuel> then run chmod +x <filename>
[17:53] <neweruser123> freezes
[17:53] <neweruser123> nothing hapens
[17:53] <Fraz> hi
[17:53] <handuel> neweruser123: open a terminal with ctrl+alt+t
[17:54] <wols> kyle__: good thing the cheapo new samsung clp-320 here has linux drivers. even when they are from samsung: not exactly good but they at least wrok :)
[17:54] <handuel> neweruser123: where did you save the file
[17:54] <neweruser123> handuel:  now what
[17:54] <neweruser123> amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run
[17:54] <handuel> neweruser123: in wat folder though
[17:54] <neweruser123> here /home/tan/Downloads/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run
[17:54] <wols> handuel: amd.com drivers? from their website?
[17:54] <handuel> ah kk
[17:54] <handuel> type in cd /home/tan/Downloads/
[17:54] <wols> that poor kid gets one bad advice after the other. damn, #ubuntu lives up to its reputation
[17:55] <handuel> and then chmod +x amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run
[17:55] <wols> handuel: sh  amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run
[17:55] <aetcore> wols: lol :D
[17:55] <handuel> and then ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run
[17:55] <handuel> wols: wat do u mean about bad advice
[17:55] <Fraz> so any idea about why im getting scrambled up text and buttons?
[17:55] <handuel> wols: he asked me how to run the file and I'm telling him
[17:55] <wols> handuel: I mean you should be +q asap. even when I soon will get it probably
[17:56] <wols> handuel: you are a danger to the public in other words
[17:56] <handuel> wols: what have I done wrong
[17:56] <neweruser123> bash: cd: /home/tan/downloads/: No such file or directory
[17:56] <wols> handuel: yes, and when the next ubuntu update of kernel or Xorg comes around he will have a problem
[17:56] <wols> handuel: why does a 6870 need drivers from amd.com?
[17:56] <handuel> wols: I didn't tell him to use the drivers
[17:56] <aetcore> hdmi sound
[17:56] <handuel> wols: he merely asked me how to run the file
[17:56] <wols> handuel: you are enabling him
[17:56] <n1> how to locate thunderbird dir? tried wia termianl, tried via "search" + checked "Show hidden files"?
[17:56] <handuel> wols: which I told him correctly
[17:56] <Jeregge343> Kyle
[17:57] <wols> aetcore: ok, and the fglrx drivers from ubuntu have no hdmi sound?
[17:57] <aetcore> nope
[17:57] <aetcore> not that i know of at least
[17:57] <wols> aetcore: why would they miss those?
[17:57] <handuel> nouveau had hdmi sound for me :D
[17:57] <handuel> why doesn't he just use nouveau
[17:57] <wols> aetcore: note: fglrx, not radeon
[17:57] <wols> handuel: cause he has a 6870
[17:57] <handuel> ah kk
[17:58] <handuel> oops
[17:58] <neweruser123> the  ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run doesnt work
[17:58] <neweruser123> im in the correct CD location
[17:58] <neweruser123> " Permission denied"
[17:58] <handuel> use chmod +x filename
[17:58] <handuel> then run it
[17:58] <compdoc> need sudo?
[17:58] <wols> handuel: sh filename
[17:59] <handuel> and run it with sudo
[17:59] <subman> jrib, It is forwarded through my dsl modem to my router to the computer.
[17:59] <aetcore> wols: i chriped in when he said he was using kde, so my suggestion was instead of reinstalling anything (because he wasnt getting anywhere) was to boot live cd and try see if Ubuntu natively gave him HDMI sound, not some other wierd build he had going on
[17:59] <neweruser123> wait so"  sudo amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run"
[18:00] <aetcore> neweruser123: sudo sh amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run
[18:00] <neweruser123> ok its working
[18:00] <aetcore> but as wols has suggested it might not fix the issue
[18:00] <handuel> wols: is there any reason to use sh filename as apposed to ./filename
[18:00] <aetcore> and flgx as he suggested might be a better course of action
[18:00] <raj> when I add `ppa:nginx/stable` to my ubuntu repo, and then `sudo apt-get install nginx`, I still end up with 0.8.54, even after i `sudo apt-get update`
[18:00] <bekks> neweruser123: Most likely, you will have issues now whenever you upgrade the kernel.
[18:00] <wols> handuel: yes, you don't need to +x it
[18:01] <handuel> wols: ah kk
[18:01] <wols> handuel: one less command to enter wrongly for neweruser123
[18:01] <wols> neweruser123: and when X upgrades
[18:01] <neweruser123> noooooo it says " a prevoiu sinstall of the fglrx driver has been detected"
[18:01] <aetcore> im ubuntu server, and archlinux for desktop, so a lot of low level stuff i know about specifcally Ubuntu and its Desktop, and or packages surrounding it im not an expert in
[18:01] <wols> neweruser123: and you can get this driver from ubuntu directly, installing it like any other package
[18:01] <wols> !ati | neweruser123
[18:01] <neweruser123> it says i either remove the old one or --force
[18:01] <neweruser123> wols:  i want the latest AMD one though
[18:02] <wols> neweruser123: that's a very stupid thing to do, especially for you
[18:02] <wols> and for your videocard utterly useless
[18:03] <neweruser123> i installed the post-release update
[18:03] <handuel> neweruser123: wols is right, drivers are always better using package manager
[18:03] <neweruser123> from jockey
[18:03] <aetcore> lol, wols play nice
[18:03] <wols> aetcore: I was a lot more explicit earlier actually calling people names who deserved it
[18:03] <wols> and everyone in here is doing stupid things, so do it
[18:03] <wols> *I
[18:03] <handuel> neweruser123: I had the nvidia ones from their website a while back, and everytime I recieved a kernel update I had to reinstall X
[18:03] <dakine> Hey, so why is it that every time I try to chmod +x something so I can run it, it *never* works?
[18:04] <handuel> dakine: as wols stated you can usually use sh, and how do u mean it doesn't work
[18:04] <aetcore> while i admit, some of the advice given or the questions asked are questionable, #ubuntu is for people to learn at the end the day :)
[18:04] <neweruser123> will this mean ubuntu will never be able to be used for gaming
[18:04] <yeats> dakine: cna you elaborate?
[18:04] <wols> dakine: do you own the file(s)?
[18:04] <aetcore> neweruser123: not for a long time
[18:04] <wols> neweruser123: no that doesn't mean it.
[18:04] <dakine> i own the file
[18:04] <handuel> neweruser123: I use ubuntu for gaming
[18:04] <yeats> handuel: you can set up dkms for that
[18:04] <handuel> already
[18:05] <dakine> it's a java executable/bin
[18:05] <wols> !errors | dakine
[18:05] <handuel> dakine the java installer?
[18:05] <aetcore> neweruser123: Steam are/have released Steam on Linux which is cool, but i dont know of any big AAA games natively ported to linux
[18:05] <n1> finding a directory via terminal gives no results (thunderbird dir). nor via "Search" (with "show hidden enabled). any suggestions
[18:05] <n1> ?
[18:05] <bekks> dakine: Is it a jar file?
[18:06] <handuel> dakine: is it the java bin installer, or a jar file
[18:06] <yeats> n1: 1) what directory are you looking for and 2) what did you literally type?
[18:06] <wols> neweruser123: how did you try to find it?
[18:06] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:06] <Guest7578> hola
[18:06] <n1> yeats thunderbird dir
[18:06] <neweruser123> i went to jockey
[18:06] <raj> how does ubuntu manage repo switches?
[18:06] <raj> when I add `ppa:nginx/stable` to my ubuntu repo, and then `sudo apt-get install nginx`, I still end up with 0.8.54, even after i `sudo apt-get update`
[18:06] <n1> a sec...
[18:06] <jrib> subman: what's the output of « sudo iptables -L »?
[18:06] <Guest7578> alguien q me pueda ayudar con los comandos para instalar una impresora hp
[18:07] <jrib> raj: what's the output of « apt-cache policy nginx »?
[18:07] <neweruser123> it says i need to restart now... if this doesnt work after the fifth restart i will remove ubuntu and reburn the latest iso
[18:07] <neweruser123> and reinstall it
[18:07] <yeats> n1: which thunderbird dir and why?
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[18:07] <raj> jrib, http://paste.ofcode.org/nLEuzXyaq7HUfHRKNVHGF7
[18:07] <subman> jrib, I think it is a case of my isp blocking the irc ports.  80, 25535, 22 all work correctly.
[18:07] <yeats> !es | Guest7578
[18:07] <dakine> Sorry, it's not a jar - it's a shell script that requires java (which I have and all). When I try to run it with ./ it gives me permission denied - so I see that it's not executable - so I try to sudo chmod +x it, and it still does not let me run it with error 'permission denied'. Again, I own the file.
[18:07] <jrib> subman: possible
[18:07] <aetcore> neweruser123: commitment you have is admirable :)
[18:07] <Guest7578> join #ubuntu-es
[18:08] <aetcore> lol
[18:08] <neweruser123> Kiranvotio:  ive lost like 5 hours of my life in ubuntu today at this point i might aswell try it
[18:08] <yeats> Guest7578: '/join #ubuntu-es'
[18:08] <n1> yeats need to install an addon manually (t.bird addon). have the package, so need to navigate to t.bird dir
[18:08] <Jisawesome_> Does anyone here know anything about the Uverse emergency battery
[18:08] <neweruser123> ok restarting now...
[18:08] <handuel> n1: it's in $HOME/.thunderbird
[18:08] <jrib> raj: so you did not add a repository with the package "nginx" in it (either you did not add the repository correctly, or you forgot to run apt-get update, or the repository does not have a "nginx" package)
[18:08] <aetcore> t.bird, isnt that Thunderbird? and didnt that get the axe?
[18:08] <foxy999> lately on my 10.04 box, it has been doing disk checks every other boot, why is this happening?
[18:08] <Kiranvotio> if it ain't works better leave it
[18:09] <Kiranvotio> newuser123
[18:09] <yeats> aetcore: yes and no
[18:09] <raj> jrib, `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/stable
[18:09] <_cronus_> n1, there is an option to install local addons in the addon manager at the button located on the left side of the search
[18:09] <raj> `
[18:09] <aetcore> yeats: i thought Moz kinda dropped developing on it? am i wrong?
[18:09] <handuel> dakine: if you right click the file, then select properties, and then permissions is allow executing this file checked
[18:09] <raj> and sudo apt-get update
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[18:09] <raj> jrib, anything else after that?
[18:10] <yeats> aetcore: 'kinda dropped developing on it' != 'get the axe', but yes
[18:10] <dakine> handuel: when I check it - it immediately unchecks. Ubuntu is babysitting me too much :(
[18:10] <aetcore> yeats: i see, thank you
[18:10] <n1> _cronus_ you mean within thunderbird addon manager? tried but there's no blueZync addon there
[18:10] <handuel> dakine: is it on a memory stick by any chance
[18:11] <jrib> raj: sudo apt-get update
[18:11] <raj> i did
[18:11] <dakine> handuel: yes it is
[18:11] <jrib> raj: then do the apt-cache policy nginx
[18:11] <david_> hi
[18:11] <david_> i need help
[18:11] <_cronus_> n1, yes. at the addon manager there is a botton right next to the search textbox.
[18:11] <handuel> dakine: that uses fat32, that does not support unix permissions
[18:11] <raj> jrib, http://paste.ofcode.org/4R74BZ6K4FtHXp87TNFhYp
[18:11] <david_> to install a photosmart hp d110
[18:11] <handuel> dakine: copy it to your harddrive
[18:11] <dakine> handuel: ahhh, i see. thanks.
[18:11] <jrib> raj: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list*
[18:12] <jrib> raj: wait!  I see "natty" there.  Are you running natty?
[18:12] <drcode> hi all ,is there channel for ubuntu to arm cpu?
[18:12] <raj> ok, so I must update?
[18:12] <raj> ubuntu
[18:12] <david_> ubuntu 12.04
[18:12] <ThinkT510> !arm | drcode
[18:12] <jrib> !natty | raj
[18:13] <david_> como se entra al chat en español???
[18:13] <ThinkT510> raj: told you earlier
[18:13] <jrib> david_: /join #ubuntu-es
[18:13] <n1> _cronus_ tried already, doesn't recognize the file type
[18:13] <david_> jrib solo escribo eso?
[18:13] <david_> aqui mismo?
[18:13] <jrib> david_: si
[18:13] <ConGiun> :D
[18:13] <david_> ok
[18:13] <raj> ThinkT510, yes you did, i was trying to avoid doing so since I have a lot of software development going on in here
[18:14] <raj> jrib, will it mess with my openbox setup and whatnot?
[18:14] <ThinkT510> raj: didn't you plan before-hand to upgrade ubuntu before support ran out?
[18:14] <jrib> raj: it shouldn't
[18:14] <raj> ok, cool
[18:15] <_cronus_> n1, maybe the plugin is not compatible with the version of thunderbird you have installed. i have no knowledge about the specific plugin you mentioned unfortunately.
[18:15] <raj> how can I update this then?
[18:15] <jrib> raj: as always though, you should have backups "just in case"
[18:15] <phillllijw> is Pidgin still the de facto standard web chat client on linux? Anything better these days?
[18:15] <jrib> !upgrade | raj
[18:15] <ThinkT510> !eol | raj
[18:15] <drcode> thanx
[18:15] <n1> _cronus_ do you suggest downgrade the thunderbird?
[18:16] <Marikos> i hate my internet connection sometimes...
[18:16] <Marikos> I made an amd64 usb stick and booted it
[18:16] <Marikos> I got grub, but when I choose an option I just get stuck at a blank screen
[18:17] <_cronus_> n1, no, i wasn't implying anything about downgrading your software.
[18:17] <phillllijw> Why does compiz use so much processing power and RAM? Do I need to configure my graphics drivers or something?
[18:17] <phillllijw> Everything seems slow to move on screen
[18:17] <aetcore> i have an actual question i have been thinking about, lets say you have a server running an older version of ubuntu, is it consider good practise to distro-upgrade? or would it be better to have a clean slate?
[18:17] <handuel> phillllijw: you might need to use propietry graphics drivers
[18:17] <handuel> otherwise use metacity
[18:17] <phillllijw> what's metacity
[18:18] <handuel> another window manager
[18:18] <handuel> press alt+f2 then run metacity --replace
[18:18] <handuel> you get less good effects, but its very fast
[18:18] <yeats> aetcore: it really depends on your individual situation, but yes, it's good practice to keep an up-to-date OS installed
[18:19] <yeats> aetcore: wait - you mean upgrade vs. fresh install?
[18:19] <phillllijw> Hmm... Should I check dmesg to see what graphics card I have?
[18:19] <ThinkT510> aetcore: fresh installs are usually best
[18:19] <aetcore> yeats: yah, your last statement was what im meaning
[18:19] <codemaniac> phillllijw: lspci | grep VGA
[18:19] <abailarri> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 en my laptot, but the pc hungs on start
[18:20] <handuel> philllijw: run this from console sudo lshw -C display
[18:20] <yeats> aetcore: again, it depends on what you're doing.  sometimes upgrades do fine, but if you've done a lot of customizing for the programs you're running breakage is very possible
[18:20] <codemaniac> handuel: is lshw available by default ?
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> yes
[18:21] <handuel> codemaniac: I think so, people ask for output from it on launchpad answers all the time (including me)
[18:21] <aetcore> yeats: ok thanks, that kinda what i thought, some guys at work just upgraded 12 servers, and we have seen some pretty bizarre issues come from it, but most of the servers arent heavily customised, its support my argument for chef, or puppet
[18:21] <sl3ax> how can i remove the print icon on the unity-panel-2e on ubuntu 12.04? http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2919/unitypanel2d.png
[18:21] <Jisawesome_> What is the appropriate protocol for a web server
[18:21] <wols> Jisawesome_: http and https obviously
[18:21] <aetcore> Jisawesome_: http
[18:21] <aetcore> lol
[18:22] <Jisawesome_> I am opening a port and it is asking for a protocol: tcp or udp
[18:22] <aetcore> on port 80
[18:22] <handuel> sl3ax: check your startup applications
[18:22] <wols> Jisawesome_: tcp
[18:22] <aetcore> tcp 80
[18:22] <phillllijw> handuel, RV610 (Radeon HD 2400 PRO)... driver=radeon -- does this mean anything to ya?
[18:22] <Jisawesome_> What should I put for the timeout
[18:23] <sl3ax> handuel: in /etc/rcX.d?
[18:23] <wols> phillllijw: and the problem is?
[18:23] <handuel> philllijw: yes, you already have the propietry driver installed I think
[18:23] <wols> handuel: no he does not
[18:23] <phillllijw> wols, desktop just seems slow
[18:23] <aetcore> Jisawesome_: buyer beware, in port forwarding connections to your public ip, you are essentially opening up a pathway to your internet network, please use with caution
[18:23] <handuel> wols: driver=raedon are those the open source
[18:23] <phillllijw> seems like compiz is using up a lot of resources
[18:23] <aetcore> internal connection
[18:24] <ThinkT510> handuel: radeon is the open source driver
[18:24] <aetcore> dammit my typing is terrible this morning
[18:24] <handuel> ThinkT510: OK sorry
[18:24] <wols> phillllijw: you can try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/203232/radeon-hd-2000-3000-4000-on-12-10-quantal-fglrx-legacy-12-6-unsupported-wh
[18:24] <Jisawesome_> if I were to choose an application type for a web server, what would it be?
[18:24] <handuel> is frglx the drivers for raedon
[18:24] <Jisawesome_> ftp?
[18:24] <wols> handuel: no. radeon is the driver for radeon
[18:24] <aetcore> Jisawesome_: web server?
[18:25] <wols> Jisawesome_: http
[18:25] <aetcore> Jisawesome_: no not ftp
[18:25] <handuel> wols: I mean the propietry
[18:25] <wols> handuel: that's fglrx
[18:25] <Jisawesome_> ok
[18:25] <handuel> wols: good
[18:25] <phillllijw> I think this slowness occurred after running "X -configure"
[18:25] <aquethys> Hi, I successfully booted Ubuntu CD on my HP Pavilion. I get all the way to install alongside windows. However after that it tells me to remove all installation media and press enter. However then after I hit enter it reboots into windows...what's wrong?
[18:25] <wols> phillllijw: then rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X
[18:25] <wols> phillllijw: why would you even run X -configure?
[18:25] <handuel> phillllijw, can you post cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf to ubunts paste
[18:25] <phillllijw> wols, I need the file there for my mouse buttons
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Open gparted take a screenshot and imagebin it.
[18:26] <aquethys> what's gparted
[18:26] <aetcore> lol this channel is awesome lol :D
[18:26] <wols> phillllijw: that doesn't explain it. you can write your mouse config there without doing X -configure to create a full blown config
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, You got ubuntu ninstalled?
[18:26] <aquethys> no
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> installed*
[18:26] <wols> aquethys: a partitioning utility
[18:26] <aquethys> I can only
[18:26] <aquethys> boot from
[18:26] <phillllijw> wols, well I can just delete the display sections then?
[18:26] <phillllijw> handuel, yeah in a sec
[18:26] <wols> phillllijw: yes. you can delete everything but your mouse config
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, gparted is the partitioning app in the live cd.
[18:27] <phillllijw> wols, that may be the solution then
[18:27] <dooglus> I'm trying to install ubuntuon a neighbour's desktop machine. windows is v. slow on it.  it has 3 boot options: hdd, fdd, cd.  whatcan I do? the .iso for 12.10 is bigger than a CD
[18:27] <aquethys> cd. I run the installation but then after I select install alongside Windows and hit enter then it takes me to a screen that says remove all media and press enter
[18:27] <wols> dooglus: install 12.04
[18:27] <Jisawesome_> now that I have opened port 80, what do I do
[18:27] <aetcore> did Newnew ever make it back?
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, This W7?
[18:27] <aquethys> I have the same computer as this guy here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2073713
[18:27] <aquethys> Yes I'm on W7
[18:27] <wols> aetcore: very doubtful
[18:28] <aetcore> wols: :(
[18:28] <dooglus> wols: is that the last release of ubuntu that will support old computers?  do you have an alt distro you know of that still loads on old machines please?
[18:28] <phillllijw> wols, if I want to add dual monito setup at some point, will I want to keep those sections?
[18:28] <wols> dooglus: no. but it's a LTS which is (imho) a good idea for newbies to ubuntu
[18:28] <wols> phillllijw: should work without just fine
[18:28] <Matikos> damn internet connection
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, The best way is to have windows resize itself with the its disk manager leaving a unallocated space for ubuntu, but it would be nice to see if you have room for how many additional patitions there is a limit on a single HD.
[18:29] <dooglus> just spent an hour downloading 12.10- for them.   grrrr
[18:29] <wols> dooglus: and as a bonus it should fit on a CD :)  also: if you install 12.04 you can immediately upgrade to 12.10 if you wish, but I wouldn't
[18:29] <Matikos> i made an amd64 usb stick and booted it up
[18:29] <aquethys> So i'll screenshot disk manager..
[18:29] <Matikos> got into grub, but when i pick an option i just get a blank screen
[18:29] <phillllijw> wols, since we're already on this topic... how does the "new" xorg configuration work then? Does it just figure out what you need?
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Seeing gparted will tell us the partition amount before you do anything.
[18:30] <freee> hi
[18:30] <dooglus> wols thanks for your help.  what do you wuggest for burning .iso to CD?
[18:30] <wols> phillllijw: yes. and only if it gets it wrong or you want a special driver like fglrx, you need to configure it manually
[18:30] <aquethys> So how if I boot the CD and hit Try ubuntu I can screenshot gparted? how?
[18:30] <aquethys> is it something in terminal?
[18:30] <wols> dooglus: on which OS? if windows: imgburn
[18:30] <phillllijw> wols, I think it was automatically selecting fglrx before
[18:30] <aetcore> wols: your on fire
[18:30] <dooglus> wols ubuntu 12.10
[18:30] <aquethys> Would it work if I screenshot Disk Utility too in W7 or not?
[18:30] <aquethys> Thanks for your help so far :)
[18:30] <wols> aquethys: ubuntu live cd boots to a gui. but there also is parted which works in console. not sure if it's on the ubuntu cd tho
[18:30] <handuel> dooglus: for old computers i reccomend lubuntu
[18:31] <handuel> dooglus: basically the same, just different interface and faster
[18:31] <wols> dooglus: then whatever ubuntu uses for burning CDs. no clue myself
[18:31] <dooglus> handuel: is there a CD-sized .iso for 12.10 or it?
[18:31] <Matikos> is ther e a reason that would be failing to boot?
[18:31] <wols> dooglus: do you know what hardware your neighbour has? lubuntu or xubuntu might be a very good idea
[18:31] <aetcore> Matikos: you might be missing grub
[18:32] <sica> Hi, I have an issue and in the past 2 weeks I tried to fix it with no success, so it looks like I need some help
[18:32] <Matikos> aetcore: I'm booting from usb, and
[18:32] <wols> aetcore: there is no grub on usb sticks usually
[18:32] <Matikos> and I get a grub menu
[18:32] <Jisawesome_> I created a web server with ubuntu server, but I can only acces it from my networki
[18:32] <aquethys> Does this help at all? http://i.imgur.com/7X4TZ.png
[18:32] <aetcore> oh i see
[18:32] <handuel> dooglus: I think lubuntu will fit on a cd yes
[18:32] <wols> Matikos: how did you create this USB stick?
[18:32] <sica> I have dell inspiron N5110, and I can't manage to install nvidia drivers to make HDMI work
[18:32] <handuel> Jisawesome: have you gone on your wifi configuration page and port forwaded
[18:32] <Matikos> i downloaded the amd64 image of 12.10 and used lili to make the stuck
[18:32] <wols> Jisawesome_: you have a router. you need to portforward port 80 in your router
[18:32] <Jisawesome_> yes
[18:32] <Jisawesome_> I did that
[18:33] <dooglus> hmm.  xubuntu does too.  thanks - that's a good idea
[18:33] <wols> Jisawesome_: your ISP might block ports. try to use port 8888
[18:33] <Matikos> wols: i downloaded the amd64 image of 12.10 and used lili to make the stuick
[18:33] <sica> also I have ubuntu 12.10 installed, and the nvidia card is GT 525
[18:33] <Archio> Is there any way to get Ubuntu's default g++ to show line numbers for errors? As of now I just get "file.cpp:(.text+0x653): error" instead of "file.cpp: (line  5): error".
[18:33] <Jisawesome_> The I am using is the 192.168 one
[18:33] <aquethys> brb I'll screenshot gparted
[18:33] <Jisawesome_> SHoudl I be using a different one
[18:33] <handuel> Archio: I think that's a linker error, not a compilation error
[18:34] <dooglus> handuel: would you recommend lubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 for newbies?
[18:34] <brown12> Hi all. Problem w/ upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10. Separate home partition. New install has a /home directory that is apparently not the correct disk partition /dev/sdx. Cannot login or access files. Help? Suggestions? Many thanks in advance.
[18:34] <handuel> dooglus: yes, it's easier to use than ubuntu IMHO
[18:34] <aetcore> Jisawesome_: your port forward will be something like * 80 (or 8888) -> 192.168.x.xxx
[18:34] <dooglus> handuel: I mean which of those 2?
[18:34] <Archio> @handuel So those errors would show up like that on any platform?
[18:34] <wols> !recovery
[18:34] <Jisawesome_> I already port forwarded
[18:34] <handuel> dooglus: both
[18:34] <ThinkT510> dooglus: depends on if you want 5 years or 18 months support
[18:34] <aetcore> whatver the server ip is
[18:34] <Jisawesome_> But is that the right IP? It looks like one for only local
[18:35] <wols> brown12: you boot the recovery system and fix it in there since you are/can be root there automatically without login
[18:35] <handuel> Archio, paste your cpp file to ubuntu paste and I'll attempt compilation
[18:35] <aetcore> yes you will use your local one
[18:35] <aetcore> the server local one
[18:35] <brown12> @wols thanks
[18:35] <dooglus> handuel: hmm.  I'm not seeing any peers for lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[18:35] <wols> Jisawesome_: do it for port 8888 instead
[18:35] <Jisawesome_> Why
[18:35] <Jisawesome_> Aetcore, the one that shows up in ifconfig?
[18:35] <handuel> dooglus: you might have to not torrent it
[18:35] <wols> cause many ISPs block port 80
[18:35] <brown12> Is it FSTAB that needs to be fixed to set /home to the old partition?
[18:36] <wols> brown12: yes
[18:36] <aetcore> Jisawesome_: yes, but use a different port as wols has suggested
[18:36] <brown12> Any simple FAQs for how to configure? -Thanks again @wols
[18:36] <dooglus> handuel: I don't really have a choice.  internet here is really crappy - drops out a lot
[18:36] <handuel> dooglus: ah ok
[18:36] <sica> Hi all ! Nvidia drivers for GeForce 525GT video card for ubuntu 12.10. Notebook: Dell Inspiron N5110. I just want to make HDMI work so I can use the external monitor, please help. Tried everything I found on google in the past weeek with no success
[18:36] <Eagleman> Why was my certificate valid after 2 weeks instead of instant when i made it, I've chcked the date and time on the machine i made them and it only differed  1 or 2 hours?
[18:37] <Jisawesome_> I havent actually tried it since I port forwarded, I just assumed you needed to do something else
[18:37] <handuel> anyone know why fira can't connect, they keep trying
[18:37] <dooglus> maybe some kind soul/s could seed http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent for me?
[18:37] <handuel> dooglus: how do you seed a torrent, I have fast internet
[18:37] <wols> brown12: I don't know a simple one. /dev/sdaX     /home    ext3     0      2        these are not spaces in between but tabs btw
[18:37] <Matikos> wols: any ideas? I can't get past grub to try and install an efi compatible 12.10
[18:37] <aetcore> Jisawesome_: after the portforward is in place you should be able to connect to your server
[18:37] <dooglus> handuel: run transmission, open http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent, wait
[18:37] <handuel> dooglus okede
[18:37] <sica> Hi all ! I need WORKING ! nvidia drivers for GeForce 525GT video card for ubuntu 12.10. Notebook: Dell Inspiron N5110. I just want to make HDMI work so I can use the external monitor, please help. Tried everything I found on google in the past weeek with no success, please PM
[18:37] <sarawara> codemaniac, dienshunds helped me and it works now, thank you for your time, bye
[18:37] <wols> Matikos: use yumi
[18:38] <Matikos> wols: yumi?
[18:38] <brown12> And then what about the login process? Will the users be configured or do I have to mess with /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /etc/group
[18:38] <wols> !nvidia | sica
[18:38] <dooglus> handuel: if you already have a copy of the .iso file, put it in your Downloads/ folder before doing that - then transmission won't need to download a copy first
[18:38] <sl3ax> handuel: i couldn't remove it
[18:38] <dooglus> it wil check your copy is correct, then share it with me and others
[18:38] <wols> brown12: no messing. try to press ctrl+alt+f1 on your ubuntu and log in there first. might actually work
[18:38] <handuel> dooglus: I don't have the iso sorry, but I've started the download
[18:38] <sica> ok, thx
[18:39] <brown12> Sadly no the tty1 did ont work. The hostname is wrong and the usernames are wrong.
[18:39] <dooglus> handuel: hopefully my transmission will connect to yours and grab bits of the iso as youdownload it.
[18:39] <Matikos> wols: I see it.  I'll give it a try.  last time I made a stick i used lili
[18:39] <handuel> dooglus: it's started, 9 of 24 peers, not sure why your not getting any
[18:39] <brown12> In my supreme wisdom I managed to wreck the password for the new user I created and cannot login.
[18:39] <brown12> Thanks @wols I will give it a whirl. Have to boot over to try.
[18:40] <dooglus> handuel: I'm getting peers now - but no fast ones.
[18:40] <handuel> dooglus: :(, mines on 3 minutes remaining
[18:40] <dooglus> handuel: the too-big ubuntu iso came at 800kb/s - this lubuntu is about 25k/s - it's going to take 8 hours
[18:40] <dooglus> handuel: that's nice :)
[18:40] <wols> dooglus: it will get faster over time usually
[18:40] <bonhoeffer> when i see a window in nautilus, how do i get the path for that window?
[18:41] <dooglus> handuel: mine justjumped from 8 hours remaining to 24 minutes.  I think maybe I found you...
[18:41] <aquethys> @willee-nilee
[18:41] <aquethys> http://i.imgur.com/0aPzK.png
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, yes
[18:41] <handuel> bonhoeffer: press ctrl+l then copy and paste the adress
[18:41] <aquethys> got the screenshot :)
[18:41] <handuel> dooglus: :(
[18:41] <aquethys> I'm booted in Ubuntu now 12.10
[18:42] <handuel> dooglus: wrong smile :D I meant :)
[18:42] <compdoc> we dont allow smiling in here - this is serious!!
[18:42] <dooglus> handuel: the speed is all coming from one peer - and it has a different IP that you're IRCing from
[18:42] <handuel> dooglus: maybe you've not found me
[18:43] <dooglus> handuel: I guess not
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, So as of now you have the maximum allowed of primary partitions, you can add no more, you will have to loose one to install ubuntu, Do you have a external HD to make a backup image to?
[18:43] <aquethys> nope
[18:43] <handuel> dooglus: I've got 46 seconds remaining :D
[18:43] <aquethys> But I can delete a partition if needed
[18:43] <aquethys> Really no important files on my Windows
[18:43] <aquethys> Just want to keep Windows
[18:43] <dooglus> shame there's no "connect to specific peer" menu entry in transmission
[18:43] <dooglus> for when I know your IP address, and want to clue it in that you'refast
[18:44] <handuel> dooglus, I've done, I'm now seeding it
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, That makes things harder, you have a boot partition, C a recovery and the HP tools, all important in their own use, basically.
[18:44] <dooglus> handuel: you are sharing the file as soon as you start downloading it - well, as soon as you have one full block of it
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Do you have a backup at all?
[18:44] <aquethys> nope
[18:44] <dooglus> handuel: 'seeding' just means you're no longer downloading - you were sharing all along
[18:44] <aquethys> I use my External HD
[18:44] <aquethys> for my macbook
[18:45] <handuel> dooglus: I know, I was just telling you that I left the window open, and was leaving it seeding
[18:45] <wols> aquethys: that's not what he asked. do you have backups of all important files?
[18:45] <sl3ax> can anyone tell me how can i remove the print icon on the unity-panel-2e on ubuntu 12.04? http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2919/unitypanel2d.png
[18:45] <dooglus> handuel: thanks for doing that
[18:45] <aquethys> nope I don't
[18:45] <aquethys> Don't have any big external HD drives to back them up either
[18:45] <aquethys> only like Google Drive, Dropbox
[18:46] <phillllijw> wols handuel -- thanks guys. Seems like removing those sections from xorg.conf was all I needed to do
[18:46] <handuel> dooglus: i'm seeding to 0 peers though :(
[18:46] <handuel> phillllijw, it's only wols you've got to think, I only gave confusing info along the way
[18:46] <bretolius> how do I install a newer version of a program?  For example, I am running 12.10, but would like to install a version of a program from the raring ringtail release: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git-annex
[18:46] <bretolius> or I guess its the proposed version
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Personally I have to get to some other work, and wont really ave the time to walk you through all of this, so maybe another will. YOU might just want to install a wubi while you brush up on what you want to do to have a dual boot. The wubi can be transferred to a partiton once you know what to do.
[18:47] <handuel> dooglus: try right clicking the file and selecting ask tracker for more peers
[18:47] <aquethys> oh okay
[18:47] <aquethys> so just install wubi
[18:47] <aquethys> w/ windows?
[18:47] <phillllijw> On to another problem...
[18:47] <Groupers> Hi, I'm having an issue with fan speed on 12.10 with all the latest updates. The fan speed changes according to temperature or load or whatever like it normally would for a while but then it seems randomly it gets stuck at 100% and my computer is awfully load. Restarting fixes it for a while and then it happens again.
[18:47] <Groupers> *load = loud
[18:48] <phillllijw> Each time I login to unity, I receive a message saying something crashed. It asks me to send an error report but when I try, it says I gave the incorrect root password after 3 tries. "Failed to run /usr/share/apport/apport-gtk as user root- Wrong Password"
[18:48] <handuel> philllijw: thats usually old log files try running sudo rm -R /var/crash
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, That is just an idea, the problem here is HP filled the HD with the max amount of partitions, sothis is an easy fix for one that knows how to deal with this, but for a beginner it can be confusing.
[18:49] <handuel> dooglus: how long you got left
[18:49] <Groupers> I have some temperature monitoring software installed but nothing (CPU cores/GPU) is above 34C and the fans (or fan?) are/is still running fast
[18:50] <dooglus> handuel: 10m
[18:50] <handuel> dooglus: ah good
[18:50] <phillijw> handuel, ah yes. Looks like it's because I had to do a hard reset a few times
[18:50] <wols> phillijw: the important part is what crashed?
[18:51] <dooglus> silly desktop claims not to be able to boot from USB stick.  is that plausible?
[18:51] <wols> Groupers: which cpu?
[18:51] <wols> dooglus: only if it's very old, but then yes
[18:51] <dooglus> wols: it's a P4 CPU
[18:51] <phillijw> wols, when my machine suspends, it doesn't resume. The error log even says that. Looking through it now
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> dooglus, Have you tried the post bios boot menu, and is the computer to old to boot a usb?
[18:51] <wols> dooglus: possible, especially for a OEM PC
[18:52] <dooglus> wilee-nilee: I did.  it had weird options: primary disk, C: drive, CDROM, floppy
[18:52] <dooglus> wilee-nilee: I'd have thought C: drive and primary disk were the same, but idk
[18:52] <john347> yoh =)
[18:53] <john347> sa marche comment ce truc x)
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> dooglus, all you have to do is check the web with your computer model and usb boot, but it sounds like it may be to old.
[18:53] <wols> !fr | john347
[18:53] <handuel> dooglus: C drive is actually a partion, primary disk is the entire disk
[18:54] <wols> handuel: not sure if BIOS programmers know the difference :P
[18:54] <phillijw> Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or directory ..... Having NetWork Manager wake interfaces back up...Failed
[18:55] <dooglus> handuel: I see
[18:55] <dooglus> handuel: 5 minutes left
[18:55] <An_Ony_Moose> is there any reason to use oracle's JRE rather than openjdk nowadays?
[18:55] <phillijw> I also see "stop: Unknown instance:" for the Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95anacron suspend suspend:
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> An_Ony_Moose, java7?
[18:56] <iceroot> An_Ony_Moose: some programs are only working with the oracle version
[18:56] <wols> phillijw: dpkg -l |grep anacron
[18:56] <An_Ony_Moose> wilee-nilee: java in general.
[18:56] <An_Ony_Moose> iceroot: any examples?
[18:56] <iceroot> An_Ony_Moose: online banking from a german bank for example
[18:56] <phillijw> wols, 2.3-19ubuntu1
[18:56] <An_Ony_Moose> wilee-nilee: I take it java6 is fully implemented but 7 isn't?
[18:56] <dooglus> I notice more *ubuntu types had a 12.04.01 release, but not lubuntu.
[18:56] <dooglus> most*
[18:56] <iceroot> An_Ony_Moose: sap is another example
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> An_Ony_Moose, Java7 you have to get from oracle it is easy.
[18:57] <An_Ony_Moose> wilee-nilee: oh ok, thanks
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> An_Ony_Moose, webupd8 has a page on it if you googlr ubuntu java7
[18:57] <wols> phillijw: just checking if it's actually installed
[18:57] <phillijw> wols, appears to be
[18:57] <An_Ony_Moose> ok, thanks very much wilee-nilee and iceroot
[18:57] <wols> phillijw: "ii" in front?
[18:58] <phillijw> wols, yes. What does ii mean?
[18:58] <iceroot> An_Ony_Moose: but i would suggest to use openjdk instead if everything is working fine
[18:58] <iceroot> An_Ony_Moose: the afected apps which are not working are not that much and its ALWAYS better to use free software
[18:58] <Mitchell92> Hi... any way to get rid of unity and go back to the old gnome 3.2.x interface?
[18:59] <handuel> Mitchell92: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[18:59] <handuel> then at login select gnome classic
[18:59] <wols> phillijw: dpkg -l libc6   gives you a legend on the first few lines. "installed installed" basically
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> iceroot, That is a personal opinion please use that option.
[18:59] <Mitchell92> okay... handuel, that will get me back into the "old" ubuntu look?
[19:00] <phillijw> ah
[19:00] <handuel> Mitchell92: It isn't identical however it's as close as you can easily get
[19:00] <handuel> or you could install mate
[19:00] <handuel> it's made by linux mint and is identical
[19:00] <Mitchell92> then why not just run mint?
[19:00] <An_Ony_Moose> iceroot: thanks
[19:01] <An_Ony_Moose> iceroot: all I really needed to know was whether there is any good reason to use the proprietary one
[19:01] <handuel> Mitchell92: I don't know, you're the one who wants the old look on ubuntu not me :P
[19:01] <Mitchell92> okay, handuel.
[19:01] <Mitchell92> i just dislike unity.
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> An_Ony_Moose, You want to be able to separate peoples bias's on this stuff just a heads up.
[19:02] <An_Ony_Moose> Mitchell92: same. So I go with xfce
[19:02] <handuel> Mitchell92: I do as well, I use cinnamon (also from linux mint)
[19:02] <handuel> actually the only reason I stick with ubuntu is because of the community
[19:03] <Mitchell92> i think i'm going to just go with opensuse.
[19:03] <kmicu> cpu 10% temp 45C and fan going crazy since 12.10 :/, ehhh Ubuntu
[19:03] <dooglus> handuel: download finished.  thanks very much!
[19:03] <handuel> dooglus good :), have fun
[19:04] <bkc_> kmicu: laptop/desktop?
[19:04] <mneptok> An_Ony_Moose: the Free implementation is available easily in default repos. install what you need, test stuff, and keep it if it works. overall, it is likely to cause fewer headaches as upgrades and fixes happen.
[19:04] <kmicu> bkc_ laptop with ATI X1600 mobile Asustek Z96jm
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Mitchell92, THe opensuse channel has about 250 users so you will have some support there, it is #suse
[19:05] <Mitchell92> i'm aware
[19:05] <Mitchell92> i'm there.
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> cool
[19:05] <mneptok> Mitchell92: the GNOME2 look you're asking for is as dead on SUSE as it is Ubuntu or Debian or anything else.
[19:06] <mneptok> Mitchell92: XFCE comes close, as others have said.
[19:06] <handuel> Mitchell92: if your switching distro I'd use mint
[19:07] <bkc_> kmicu: basically there are 100 different ways of controlling the fan, but I'm start with this one: http://ubuntunewb.blogspot.se/2011/04/how-to-control-fan-speed-on-ubuntu.html
[19:07] <mneptok> handuel: personal preferences for other distros is better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:07] <kmicu> bkc_ i read them all
[19:07] <handuel> mneptok: mint gives you gnome 2 though :P
[19:08] <bkc_> kmicu: then what's the problem? :3
[19:08] <mneptok> handuel: no, it gives you Cinnamon. which is not GNOME2.
[19:08] <handuel> mneptok: or mate, which is gnome 2
[19:08] <mneptok> handuel: anyhow, it's immaterial.
[19:08] <qonk> ok
[19:08] <handuel> mneptok: it is not as mate is gnome 2 (or a fork), and is only offered by mint
[19:09] <jedimind> hey guys, how do i enable unity-2d; i installed the package and there's suppsoed to be a dropdown on the login screen but there isnt one
[19:09] <mneptok> handuel: and still a topic better suited for other channels. this is Ubuntu support.
[19:09] <jedimind> any help would be appreciated
[19:09] <bkfitz> Ubuntu 10.04 on laptop... Just installed... for some reason wireless has a red exclaimation point on it...
[19:09] <bkfitz> help
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> jedimind, What release?
[19:10] <mneptok> bkfitz: why such an old release?
[19:10] <handuel> mneptok: and i am supporting someone who asked "how do I get the old gnome 2 look back", and then said "ah maybe ill switch to opensuse(which won't give him gnome 2)
[19:10] <mocramis_> hello. every apt-get command returns this to me : http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-109822
[19:10] <mneptok> handuel: drop it.
[19:10] <handuel> mneptok: ok
[19:10] <bkfitz> mneptok: good question... didn't want unity and it's for my father in law so I just figured less confusing
[19:10] <mneptok> handuel: thankee
[19:11] <bkfitz> mneptok: do you think if I did 12.04 it would work better?
[19:11] <mocramis_> i tried to download the incriminated package and to install it, but i can only get this: http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-109824
[19:11] <jedimind> wilee-nilee, 12.10
[19:11] <bkfitz> mneptok: that's what I run on my laptop, this is just for the luggite in-laws
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> jedimind, 2d has been dicontinued, you might look on the web to see if you can just add it like you have.
[19:11] <mneptok> bkfitz: personally i'd stick with an LTS. so yes, 12.04. and try live sessions of Kubuntu and Xubuntu and see which Dad prefers.
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> discontinued *
[19:12] <bkfitz> mneptok: but why wouldn't the wifi drivers work?
[19:12] <bkfitz> mneptok: would prefer to fix this one than download 12.04 over 3g
[19:12] <mneptok> bkfitz: older kernels don't have newer FLOSS drivers baked in.
[19:12] <bkfitz> mneptok: didn't bring the 12.04 iso with me
[19:12] <jedimind> wilee-nilee, hrmm well that sucks :\ i added the package manualy as i understand it no longer is available by default, but its not showing up as an option in login screen
[19:12] <bkfitz> mneptok: ugh
[19:13] <bkfitz> mneptok: can i put the newer driver debs on a thumbdrive and install that way?
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> jedimind, here is some info, supposedly unity should run fine. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/unity-2d-removed-from-ubuntu-12-10
[19:13] <mneptok> bkfitz: if RealTek released that chip and its driver in 2011, how does a 2009-2010 kernel support it?
[19:13] <kmicu> bkc_ I will try to rescan sensors one more time, but this settings shouldn't be overwritten during upgrade from 12.04, in 12.04 fan works properly.
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> jedimind, What is it you are trying to gain or loose?
[19:14] <handuel> bkfitz: you could try building the realtek drivers from source, it's quite an easy task
[19:14] <bkfitz> mneptok: it's a 5 year old acer laptop
[19:14] <jedimind> im on an exceptionally slow netbook (first gen atom based acer aspire one); and running 1080p res and its so unbearably slow due to lack of hardware acceleration
[19:14] <mneptok> bkfitz: 10.04 uses 2.6 series. 12.04 the 3 series.
[19:14] <jedimind> that im just trying to get into 2d mode without all the 3d stuff
[19:14] <jedimind> wilee-nilee, ^
[19:14] <bkfitz> handuel: shouldn't need them no?
[19:15] <mneptok> bkfitz: look in restricted drivers
[19:15] <mneptok> bkfitz: could be it requires Broadcom or other formware blobs.
[19:15] <mneptok> *firmware
[19:15] <bkfitz> mneptok: where?
[19:15] <handuel> bkfitz: you have to something to do with setting WPA_SUPPLICANT to true to let it be managed by network manager
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> jedimind, There are a number of other desktops to try, but it sounds like you may be aware of this already.
[19:15] <magn3ts> where's the list of kernels at?
[19:15] <magn3ts> the repo of kernels
[19:15] <handuel> bkfitz: what chipset is it?
[19:15] <mneptok> bkfitz: in the menu system is "Restricted Drivers" or somesuch
[19:16] <mneptok> bkfitz: "Additional Drivers" maybe?
[19:16] <jedimind> wilee-nilee, i suppose im a little out of the loop in respect to options for ubuntu, i havent run a version since 7.04 or so
[19:16] <magn3ts> Why is there no v3.7-rc3-quantal build here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[19:16] <bonhoeffer> i remember if i had a window open that I could hit some hotkey to see/copy the path
[19:16] <handuel> bonheffer: ctrl+L
[19:16] <cortexA9> anyone tried ubuntu on nexus 7 ?
[19:17] <bonhoeffer> handuel, thanks!
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> jedimind, Ahh, you might look at xubuntu or lubuntu
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, YOu mean the chmod or the full install>
[19:18] <jedimind> wilee-nilee, i suppose i can modify compiz to disable certain things
[19:19] <cortexA9> wilee-nilee the full install.
[19:19] <alienaut> hello people. vlc is sizzle for a short minute after play video. but it gets annoying everytime i pause/play video
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> jedimind, Yes that is an option, be sure to install the fusion icon and have a launcher for it on the desktop, it is a compiz restart, you will want it.
[19:19] <alienaut> any idea
[19:19] <handuel> alienaut: how do you mean annoying
[19:19] <cortexA9> because i want to put ubuntu and then kubuntu.
[19:20] <cortexA9> it's possible ?
[19:20] <jedimind> wilee-nilee, thanks for the tip
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, I have not seen anyone on the channel yet using it but I have a nexus 7 and would not bother personally, not enough ram to begin with.
[19:21] <alienaut> Handuel, everytime sound teribly distorted. like a alien.
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, At least ram for a fast setup
[19:21] <kmicu> bkc_ /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed ;]
[19:22] <handuel> I have to go sorry
[19:22] <cortexA9> wilee-nilee, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[19:22] <alienaut> handuel, i frequently pause and play cause i watch screencast :/
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, The wiki tells you how and if you are familiar with rooting it and running different roms go for it.
[19:23] <cortexA9> ok wilee-nilee i try thanks.
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, let us know how it runs!
[19:24] <cortexA9> i have fear :D
[19:24] <cortexA9> to brick lol
[19:25] <cortexA9> because now it's rooted.
[19:25] <cortexA9> :)
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, I use the google nexus 7 toolkit in windows for rooting it is quite nice.
[19:26] <cortexA9> yes me too
[19:26] <dooglus> guys, I'm having more trouble.  I got a CD burned of lubuntu 12.04, booted it, but now can't get sshd running on the live instance.  was going to use it to backup the windows partition before installing lubuntu
[19:26] <dooglus> I installed package 'openssh-server', which is usually all I need to do, but it tellsme 'start: unknown job: ssh' when I run 'sudo start ssh'
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, Just have a backup of the stock rom sitting around and your favourite roms, you can brick it but easily fixable.
[19:27] <bekks> dooglus: sudo service ssh start
[19:27] <wols> dooglus: ssh is the client, not the serevr
[19:27] <bekks> the service is named ssh, too. The binary is named sshd.
[19:27] <Groupers> wols, i7-860 with P55, the board is a Gigabyte P55A-UD3. I have a stock PWM CPU fan and a PWM case fan plugged in. The only other fans are PSU and GPU
[19:27] <dooglus> bekks: same error
[19:28] <bekks> dooglus: The error cant be exactly the same.
[19:28] <wols> Groupers: run mprime, or cpuburn and measure again. it will go up
[19:28] <dooglus> bekks: wanna bet?
[19:28] <wols> dooglus: we do
[19:28] <Hilikus> #git
[19:28] <wols> dooglus: pastebin the full command you wrote and its output in a pastebin
[19:29] <bekks> dooglus: I know I will win. That would be a good deal, but quite unfair against you.
[19:29] <dooglus> bekks: name your stake
[19:29] <Groupers> wols, the issue is that one of the fans gets stuck running really fast even though the temperature/load are low
[19:29] <bekks> dooglus: Upload your pastebin.
[19:29] <dooglus> bekks: then you won't want to bet any more :)
[19:30] <Groupers> wols, the issue goes away after a reboot but then after a while it gets stuck running fast again
[19:30] <dooglus> bekks: it's going to take a while to load up chromium on this old pc from a live cd
[19:30] <bekks> dooglus: For offtopic, please change to #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[19:30] <dooglus> pussy :)
[19:30] <unsobill> any got qemu installed on ubuntu ?
[19:30] <wols> Groupers: e.g. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_Speed_Control
[19:31] <wols> dooglus: no need.
[19:31] <wols> !pastebinit | dooglus
[19:31] <bekks> dooglus: Come on. You are the one who needs support, it's not me. So watch your language please.
[19:31] <wols> !anyone | unsobill
[19:32] <IdleOne> dooglus: Please mind your language
[19:32] <dooglus> http://pastebin.ca/2248000
[19:32] <dooglus> IdleOne: sure.
[19:34] <cmol> Hi guys, what do you use for virus scanning a windows machine via a live linux image? I've seen trinitylinux.org, but that's what I've found so far. (my dad messed up his pc)
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> !av
[19:35] <dooglus> he's asking how to use linux to virus scan a windows partition
[19:35] <Kishi> Not necessarily true.
[19:35] <unsobill> wols, this is probably most retarded and unhelpful thing i seen people do on irc
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> cmol, That ubottu message will give you a list of possibilities.
[19:35] <vexati0n> quick question: Online Accounts has the option to add a Microsoft Exchange account, and use it for "mail, contacts, and calendar," but where do the mail, contacts, and calendar actually show up?
[19:35] <Kishi> You can allways, say, be a target of a specific attack.
[19:36] <Kishi> It's true that most malware is written for Windows because it's most popular OS worldwide
[19:36] <Kishi> That doesn't eliminate possible dangers, though
[19:36] <Kishi> Better safe than sorry I'd say.
[19:36] <wols> unsobill: good, then you obviously don't want help. have a nice life
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> cmol, THere are at least 5 or so live cd from major AV providers as well.
[19:36] <cmol> I virus scan my linux too, but that's another matter
[19:37] <cmol> wilee-nilee, as opensource / free ?
[19:37] <Kishi> I've got ClamAV installed and I make use of it sometimes
[19:37] <unsobill> wols, if you consider your respond as "help" then  you just obviously wasting too much time here
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> cmol, Yes most are running on top of a open source setup. With windows though you are better to recover the important stuff and just do a fresh install.
[19:38] <wols> unsobill: if you consider your "question" sensible, then you need to ask ubottu about !gq
[19:38] <ofcan> In my script I change user with 'su' but than I get stuck being asked for password withouth being able to type the password :) how to fix this?
[19:39] <cmol> wilee-nilee, yeah, but im hoping to jump the fence at its lowest....
[19:39] <gimp_> net
[19:39] <Kishi> Terminal doesn't show root password output as a security mesaure, have you tried pressing enter?
[19:40] <agharos> 123
[19:40] <bekks> Kishi: There is no root password in Ubuntu.
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> cmol, http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-list/
[19:40] <Kishi> bekks: User can allways set it via "passwd root" command
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> cmol, There is also combofix
[19:41] <cmol> wilee-nilee, thanks! You're a savior
[19:41] <bekks> Kishi: Doing so will most likely result in getting no support in here anymore.
[19:41] <bekks> !root | Kishi
[19:41] <dooglus> in the installer, I'm installing ubuntu alongside windows.  it's asking me to drag a divider to say how much space each should get - but it didn't label the two sides.  is linux the left or right side?
[19:42] <Kishi> bekks: Ofcan started a question about su, not me.
[19:42] <ofcan> yup :)
[19:42] <bekks> Kishi: kk :)
[19:42] <vexati0n> quick question: Online Accounts has the option to add a Microsoft Exchange account, and use it for "mail, contacts, and calendar," but where do the mail, contacts, and calendar actually show up?
[19:43] <wols> Kishi: but you violated the !noroot factoid
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> dooglus, If you want top have exactly the partition size you want you should resize the windows with its disk manager, much safer as well, then install ubuntu in the unallocated space.
[19:43] <Kishi> ...I've violated what?
[19:43] <wols> !noroot | Kishi
[19:43] <wols> Kishi: irc channels do have rules after all
[19:43] <MediaWork> hi
[19:43] <Kishi> Oh, I didn't realise.
[19:44] <gordonjcp> there should be a patch for /usr/bin/passwd that checks for attempts to set a root password, and if someone has set one it will overwrite any attached drives with /dev/zero
[19:44] <dooglus> wilee-nilee: the windows is all fscked up - I think it's safer to use linux to resize it
[19:44] <MediaWork> how do I make mono attach to the .net 4 library  when I execute a .net file.
[19:44] <gordonjcp> Kishi: root passwords need to die
[19:44] <MediaWork> currently it seems to look up .net version 2... which causes problems
[19:44] <MediaWork> missing libs ertc.
[19:44] <gordonjcp> Kishi: they've been obsolete for a good twenty years or so
[19:44] <bekks> gordonjcp: Just triggering the secure erase of a disk drive would be enough :)
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> dooglus, I see people on here everyday that have resized wrong and then need to resize with goparted and have to have their hands held the whole way.
[19:44] <gordonjcp> bekks: that'd work
[19:45] <gordonjcp> bekks: /dev/zero is secure enough for pretty near anything
[19:45] <gordonjcp> bekks: you write /dev/zero over the whole disk and nothing's ever coming back :-)
[19:45] <Kishi> While using sudo is a good way to protect beginner users from doing something stupid like removing everything in root directory, I see nothing wrong with enabling su as an user with some Linux experience allready...
[19:45] <dooglus> wilee-nilee: not surprising - the installer doesn't label the partitions!  I get to drag a divider between two unlabelled white spaces - one's ubuntu, one's windows, but I don't know which is which!
[19:45] <gordonjcp> Kishi: wrong
[19:45] <gordonjcp> Kishi: you should *never* have a valid root password
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> dooglus, Could it more confusing, lol.
[19:46] <Kishi> Why so?
[19:46] <gordonjcp> Kishi: because it's fundamentally insecure
[19:46] <gordonjcp> Kishi: anybody with the root password can do anything
[19:46] <gordonjcp> there's no logging, there's no division of authority
[19:46] <zhanger> and also cause then an attacker actually knows which account to attack
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> dooglus, My guess is windows on the left and ubuntu on the right, but that is a guess.
[19:46] <Kishi> gordonjcp: So can a person with an administrator password, because what sudo does is executing a single command as root
[19:46] <gordonjcp> Kishi: no, it doesn't
[19:47] <gordonjcp> Kishi: it just happens to be configured that way in the trivial case
[19:47] <dooglus> the resizer said "nothing to do - ntfs volume size is already ok".  wierd, but ok...
[19:47] <gordonjcp> Kishi: you can lock down what people can do with sudo to a very fine degree, and sort out all sorts of logging
[19:48] <maxb> Root passwords are mainly for getting into a server over a (virtual) serial console when all else has gone wrong :-)
[19:48] <Kishi> gordonjcp: I've never tried it, but I believe Linux will be as happy to rm -rf the root directory with sudo prefix as it would be with su
[19:49] <gordonjcp> Kishi: did you read *anything* I said?
[19:49] <bekks> Kishi: Which has nothing to do with the insecurity of a root password.
[19:49] <gordonjcp> Kishi: clearly not
[19:49] <gordonjcp> Kishi: I can set you up an account on this machine, give you sudo access and let you bang away with sudo rm -rf * anywhere you like
[19:49] <Kishi> gordonjcp: Perhaps. I'm not too experienced and armed with arguments to wage nerd wars yet ;/
[19:49] <gordonjcp> Kishi: I guarantee you'll only be able to take out your homedir
[19:50] <kev^> hah
[19:50] <runderw> has anyone here ever worked for NextGen Healthcare Solutions?
[19:50] <gordonjcp> although admittedly, first I'll have to remember how to do that
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> runderw, This is ubuntu support and that is it.
[19:50] <runderw> ya
[19:51] <maxb> gordonjcp: Your statement is a bit misleading though, since whilst it's true, that's not the way the vast majority of people configure sudo
[19:51] <runderw> so I the next gen people run their servers on top of ubuntu
[19:51] <addiks> Hi, my nautilus wont connect to remote servers since 12.10, it only tells me "Cannot get list of Servermethods, check your gvfs installation." I have reinstalled (purged) gvfs-backend and nautilus and it wont work. Can anyone help me with this?
[19:51] <gordonjcp> maxb: well, what I did say earlier is in the trivial case it's set up to function a bit like su but without disclosing (or requiring) a root password
[19:51] <xreal> I need to stream a file using netcat at 2048000 bytes/s. I tried it directly in netcat, but speed doesn't fit. "pv -L 2048000 | nc6" works, but the datarate isn't exactly 2048000 ... what am I doing wrong?
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> runderw, Good for them this is show your problem in the form of a question, not who the company is.
[19:52] <gordonjcp> xreal: well for a start it sounds like you're going about some problem the wrong way
[19:52] <runderw> so I can only ask specific questions about ubuntu here ?
[19:53] <bekks> Yes. :)
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> runderw, That is it yes.
[19:53] <gordonjcp> xreal: What exactly are you trying to do?
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> runderw, there is #ubuntu-offtopic but there are limitations there as well.
[19:54] <b636bc7ca> How do I find the default init level on ubuntu? I'm used to looking in /etc/inittab, but that doesn't exist anymore...
[19:54] <jrib> b636bc7ca: why are you looking for it?
[19:54] <jrib> b636bc7ca: (ubuntu uses upstart as its init system)
[19:54] <bekks> !upstart | b636bc7ca
[19:54] <b636bc7ca> jrib: Because I want to disable vsftpd in the default runlevel.
[19:54] <xreal> gordonjcp: I want to stream I/Q data recorded by rtl_sdr to a sdr-demodulator.
[19:55] <Kishi> Anyway, I didn't really come here to argue if sudo is better than su
[19:55] <xreal> gordonjcp: pv -W -L 2048000 myfile.bin | nc6 -v -l -p 1234
[19:55] <gordonjcp> xreal: oh, okay
[19:55] <runderw> @wilee-nilee do you have any suggestions of where I would find a channel more specific to monitoring custom apache setups
[19:55] <jrib> !runlevel | b636bc7ca
[19:55] <ikonia> runderw: the apache channel ?
[19:55] <b636bc7ca> I know it uses upstart, and I'm in /etc/init/vsftpd.conf, but I don't know which run level to remove from the "start" block
[19:55] <Kishi> I allready have other problems, like, having switched to a 800x600 resolution one day and not being able to revert
[19:56] <gordonjcp> xreal: streaming audio is somewhat more difficult than that since you need to keep the timing exactly right
[19:56] <bekks> b636bc7ca: There are no run levels anymore with Upstart.
[19:56] <bekks> b636bc7ca: The bot just told you that Upstart replaces the Old SysV Init.
[19:57] <b636bc7ca> bekks: Replacing sysvinit is the same as "getting rid of runlevels entirely"?
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> runderw,  #httpd
[19:57] <gordonjcp> xreal: why not just copy the raw IQ data across to the machine with the SDR software on it?
[19:57] <bekks> b636bc7ca: Correct.
[19:57] <jrib> b636bc7ca: do you want to know the proper way to disable vsftp?  See the section on manual overrrides in http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[19:57] <runderw> thanks I will check it out..
[19:57] <b636bc7ca> good lord
[19:57] <brzJunior> Hi guys, how can i clean "search replace" cache from gedit on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:57] <xreal> gordonjcp: it's not audio (as you say, it's raw I/Q data). the problem: the SDR software can read WAV files only. WAV is limited to 4 GB, the file would be about 12 GB.
[19:58] <gordonjcp> xreal: it *is* audio...
[19:58] <gordonjcp> it's slightly funny sounding but it's still audio
[19:58] <xreal> gordonjcp: ok, you're right. It's sines.
[19:58] <xreal> Sine waves
[19:58] <runderw> I am also kind of  a newb with ubuntu amongst other things !
[19:58] <b636bc7ca> Then upstart scripts probably should stop containing stuff like this: start on runlevel [2345]
[19:58] <gordonjcp> xreal: ever noticed how if you get the centre frequency just right, you can hear intelligible audio without the software?
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> runderw, THat channel looked to be the closest on freenode that I could see with a channel search.
[19:59] <gordonjcp> xreal: right there's probably a way to use sox to convert that binary file to a wav
[19:59] <b636bc7ca> That's incredibly misleading if there are no runlevels at all anymore
[19:59] <gordonjcp> xreal: it's probably interleaved 8-bit linear
[19:59] <gordonjcp> that doesn't solve your 12GB problem
[19:59] <bekks> b636bc7ca: They arent needed anymore, so they do not exist anymore using Upstart.
[19:59] <xreal> gordonjcp: you're righr. sox -e unsigned-integer -t raw -b 8 -c 2 -r 2048000
[20:00] <gordonjcp> xreal: can your SDR software accept audio from jack or pulse?
[20:00] <b636bc7ca> bekks: Odd, then, that the "upstart" documentation and start scripts document them, isn't it?
[20:00] <gordonjcp> xreal: you could cut the 12GB file up into chunks
[20:00] <b636bc7ca> s/document/document and use/
[20:00] <runderw> nice .. thank you .. one last question before I leave ..
[20:00] <xreal> gordonjcp: I tried chunking it up, but then it "pops" in the middle of the recording.
[20:00] <bekks> b636bc7ca: Then please show us were upstart documents that.
[20:00] <dr_willis> upstart has backwards compatiabilty features
[20:00] <b636bc7ca> bekks: Certainly: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#runlevels
[20:00] <xreal> gordonjcp: I'm recording in Linux and streaming it through 1000mbit network to Windows. The sdr software is running on Windows only.
[20:01] <jrib> b636bc7ca: upstart still handles the old sysv init scripts so there are still runlevel events.  As I understand it though, these are an outdated model; I could be wrong
[20:01] <gordonjcp> xreal: oh, I don't know anything about Windows
[20:01] <gordonjcp> xreal: I haven't seen any decent SDR software for Windows
[20:01] <gordonjcp> what are you using?
[20:01] <xreal> gordonjcp: no problem. sdr# is *great*. I'd love to use gnuradio in a VM soon.
[20:01] <dr_willis> jrib:  thats how i gather the info also. many services are stil using the old system and upstart handles them so well most people dont notice or upgrade their stuff to use upstart defined services
[20:01]  * giuseppe_ buona sera
[20:01] <gordonjcp> xreal: oh, sdr#?
[20:01] <b636bc7ca> jrib: *shrug* At least that documentation answered the real question: the variable DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL in file /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf
[20:01] <xreal> gordonjcp: my current post-processing is based on AF created by sdr# and it works *very* fine
[20:01] <giuseppe_> !list
[20:02] <xreal> gordonjcp: Is it possible to hard restrict netcat to 2048000 bytes ?
[20:02] <gordonjcp> xreal: I believe the author is working on rtlsdr integration for that
[20:02] <gordonjcp> xreal: he used to hang about in ##hamradio, don't know if he still does
[20:02] <xreal> gordonjcp: it supports rtlsdr and rtltcp, but not raw i/q data. I know him (prog) from ##rtlsdr
[20:02] <gordonjcp> yup
[20:03] <gordonjcp> why not just use rtltcp then
[20:03] <b636bc7ca> jrib: It may be "outdated", and perhaps it will stop working at some point in the future, but I still use runlevels quite heavily on my systems; I just couldn't remember what replaced inittab, and my google-fu was failing to come up with the upstart.ubuntu.com URL
[20:03] <runderw> I can connect to the ubuntu server, I have navigated around and I have tried using the /proc and I tried reading man /proc .. but I don't feel like this is efficient way of trying to troubleshoot what executable is hanging the box
[20:03] <jrib> b636bc7ca: k, glad you sorted it out
[20:03] <xreal> gordonjcp: because I've already recorded the file and want to demodulate them :)
[20:03] <gordonjcp> xreal: ooooooh
[20:03] <xreal> gordonjcp: cat | netcat => ... => sdr# => af
[20:03] <runderw> How do you check your machine out from ssh
[20:03] <ikonia> runderw: why do you think there is an executable hanging ?
[20:03] <gordonjcp> xreal: yeah, my first thought would be to cut it up with dd or something and convert to wav with sox
[20:04] <gordonjcp> xreal: or ask prog to fix it to read IQ files
[20:04] <gordonjcp> xreal: or fix it yourself for that matter
[20:04] <xreal> gordonjcp: I tried that, but I've recorded music and vocals, which get "popped" at the cut
[20:04] <xreal> gordonjcp: yeah, I need to convince him. He's not easy :)
[20:04] <gordonjcp> xreal: I bet I could write a patch for lysdr to do it
[20:04] <runderw> when we try to navigate to the url the ubuntu box is hosting the host doesn't respond
[20:04] <xreal> gordonjcp: what's lysdr ?
[20:05] <xreal> gordonjcp: Is it possible to hard restrict netcat to 2048000 bytes ?
[20:05] <runderw> we can ping the box
[20:05] <gordonjcp> xreal: not as far as I can see
[20:05] <b636bc7ca> But if Ubuntu is really getting rid of runlevels, it'd sure be nice if someone would document what I'm supposed to use instead; runlevels are one of the best things about a Unix system. :|
[20:05] <ikonia> runderw: why do you think there is an executable hanging ?
[20:05] <runderw> but no go on the http requests
[20:05] <ikonia> runderw: http is nothing to do with ping
[20:06] <ikonia> so that is an invalid test
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> xreal: head may be able to do bytes (total guess)
[20:06] <gordonjcp> xreal: http://gordonjcp.github.com/lysdr/
[20:06] <dr_willis> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook
[20:06] <dr_willis> i belive
[20:06] <gordonjcp> xreal: http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/lysdr.jpg
[20:06] <xreal> gordonjcp: nice
[20:06] <runderw> obviously .. I know .. there could be many things that prevent the http page from getting served
[20:06] <b636bc7ca> dr_willis: I can't see anything on there that: 1) Even remotely implies runlevels are going away; 2) Tells me what to use instead of runlevels to start/stop hundreds of services with a single command
[20:06] <ikonia> runderw: if you "know" why are you quoting it as a test
[20:07] <gordonjcp> xreal: internally prog and I use some very similar tricks in our software, but as you can see we have very different attitudes to GUIs
[20:07] <gordonjcp> xreal: lysdr is far too complicated, there are too many buttons
[20:07] <ikonia> runderw: if you know ping is nothing to do with http, why use it as a test or mention in here, why not troubleshoot the issue
[20:07] <b636bc7ca> Well, I guess I could just maintain my own upstart scripts that chain to other upstart scripts - but that's certainly not very clear in the documentation if that's the expectation.
[20:07] <runderw> omg .. because I am a newb to ubuntu
[20:07] <xreal> gordonjcp: I'll try it in a VM soon
[20:07] <runderw> I guess
[20:07] <tbruff13> hello
[20:08] <ikonia> runderw: ok, so the question you have is "I don't know why I can't see web pages"
[20:08] <ikonia> runderw: first question, is apache running ?
[20:08] <maverik> ciao
[20:08] <runderw> yes ,,,
[20:08] <maverik> !list
[20:08] <gordonjcp> always Italians, first thing they do is say !list
[20:08] <runderw> I would say every 15 attempts or so .. we can get an application not available page
[20:09] <ikonia> runderw: first question, is apache running ?
[20:09] <gordonjcp> I think I've got most of every Italian ISP's netblock set to auto-kline
[20:09] <ikonia> how have you verified apache is running
[20:09] <gordonjcp> (not here, on a server I run)
[20:09] <ikonia> sorry, runderw how have you verified apache is running
[20:09] <runderw> Its a gut feeliing
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, That is a a strange correlation for sure.
[20:09] <ikonia> runderw: ok, a gut feeling is unacceptable in troubleshooting
[20:09] <ikonia> runderw: please verify apache is running
[20:09] <jrib> b636bc7ca: I think maybe I was misremembering.  Instead, it's just that runlevels aren't really special in upstart.  They're just events that get emitted and you can use them to start and stop jobs in your script
[20:10] <tbruff13> Can I have some help please
[20:10] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: it's *only* Italians
[20:10] <runderw> I have some evidence behind my feeling
[20:10] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: and it's *all* they do
[20:10] <runderw> .. but a good question would be
[20:10] <gordonjcp> !help | tbruff13
[20:10] <ikonia> runderw: feelings are unacceptable, please verify it's running
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, Yeah always I know. ;)
[20:10] <runderw> how do I verify apache is running
[20:10] <runderw> from ssh
[20:10] <ikonia> runderw: how have you been verifying it so far ?
[20:10] <runderw> rather from bash
[20:11] <runderw> basically the server serves an application error page
[20:11] <maverik> ciao
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> tbruff13, TO get help you need to show the problem in the form of a question, ;)
[20:11] <maverik> !list
[20:11] <ikonia> runderw: ok, you need to look for the httpd process in the proces list
[20:11] <runderw> I know that page is from the directory of the server in question
[20:11] <ikonia> or is it apache2 on ubuntu
[20:11] <ikonia> runderw: look for httpd or apache2 in the process list
[20:12] <tbruff13> I am having trouble upgrading from kubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 it is hanging on 64 percent while trying to download dropbox. I really don't want my laptop to crash can someone please help me
[20:12] <AndresSM> tbruff13: how did you trigger the update
[20:12] <AndresSM> _
[20:12] <AndresSM> ?
[20:12] <maverik> ciao
[20:12] <maverik> !list
[20:13] <ikonia> maverik: don't do it again
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> tbruff13, 3rd parties should be off in a upgrade, are you backedup?
[20:13] <gordonjcp> maverik: what the hell is this !list nonsense?
[20:13] <ikonia> gordonjcp: leave it please.
[20:13] <AndresSM> tbruff13: also if it's just downloading updates you can't cancel and make sure to disable that repo
[20:13] <Helpdesk> !list
[20:13] <tbruff13> AndresSM, I went through the muon package manager and it said that an upgrade was available  so I clicked on it and started upgrading
[20:13] <b636bc7ca> jrib: I'm not sure how that's different from the way I've been using runlevels for the past two decades, but great :)
[20:14] <tbruff13> AndresSM, it is not just updating I am going from kubuntu 12.04 to 12.10
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: are you wanting to upgrade to 12.10 or is it already happening?
[20:15] <crazyharry> rithms
[20:15] <AndresSM> tbruff13: if it's just downloading you can cancel it's no big deal
[20:15] <runderw> thanks
[20:15] <runderw> this was the piece I forgot
[20:15] <AndresSM> tbruff13: then go to your software sources and disable all third party repositories
[20:16] <runderw> … this ps aux thing .. provides me with a  list of PID to path
[20:16] <runderw> … I love
[20:16] <runderw> it
[20:16] <runderw> even cpu load
[20:16] <jrib> b636bc7ca: well if anything, I think it would make it nicer for you.  Now you can create your own runlevels, you can even create your own new event that you emit instead and have your services watch for.   The only issues with runlevels is if ubuntu decides to stop putting these "start on runlevel" stanzas in the init scripts :) Again, I don't know either way if that's something that's planned
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> tbruff13, I would talk with ActionParsnip if I were you.
[20:16] <ikonia> I know what it does
[20:17] <tbruff13> I am working with someone now
[20:17] <tbruff13> one second
[20:17] <bonhoeffer> does ubuntu lighten graphics on mouseover by default?
[20:18] <bonhoeffer> i have a set of 64x64 px graphics, that light up with a great mouseover effect in nautilus (or whatever the explorer in 11.04)
[20:18] <runderw> isn't there some thing called grep or something .. so could I only list http or apache2
[20:18] <ikonia> correct, grep
[20:18] <bonhoeffer> oh, 12.04 :)
[20:18] <runderw> like ps aux grep "apache" ?
[20:18] <bonhoeffer> i can't figure out how the effect is happening -- there is no sprite, only a single image
[20:18] <runderw> I am really newb I hope i am not to annoying
[20:18] <ikonia> runderw: you need to pipe
[20:18] <yeats> runderw: 'ps aux | grep apache'
[20:18] <ikonia> runderw: it's not annoying, but I'd suggest stepping back and reading the basics on bash usage
[20:19] <handuel> 'ello
[20:19] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip, I was told to talk to you
[20:19] <bonhoeffer> but mouseover looks great -- i'm trying to figure out if the designer designed this
[20:19] <ikonia> runderw: it will make general advice going forward easier
[20:19] <tbruff13> and I need some help if you can
[20:19] <bonhoeffer> should i ask about this in another room
[20:19] <AndresSM> tbruff13: :<
[20:19] <Kishi> So, one day I've booted in Ubuntu to find out that somehow I became trapped in 800x600 resolution
[20:19] <Kishi> Which sucks a little bit
[20:19] <handuel> bonhoeffer what is your question?
[20:19] <runderw> ok .. Will do … Thank you ikonia, I really appreciate the help
[20:19] <Kishi> And I cannot seem to go into a higher resolution
[20:19] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: errr of course the design designed it, that's why he's the designer
[20:19] <Kishi> I've reinstalled NVIDIA drivers two, maybe three times
[20:19] <ikonia> runderw: it's worth just a few hours delay to get your head around the basics
[20:19] <b636bc7ca> jrib: well, if they stop supporting it, they stop supporting it - I'm just as screwed either way :) But thanks
[20:19] <Kishi> All for nothing
[20:20] <bonhoeffer> ikonia, no, did the designer design a mouseover for http://www.elegantthemes.com/blog/resources/free-social-media-icon-set
[20:20] <tbruff13> AndresSM, is there anyway I can safely end the upgrade and restart it
[20:20] <bonhoeffer> or is the cool mouseover effect a concidence in ubuntu?
[20:20] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: that's not really anything to do with ubuntu
[20:20] <yeats> Kishi: take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues
[20:20] <AndresSM> yes, just hit cancel, if it's only downloading nothing will happen
[20:20] <bonhoeffer> in html, the mouseover effect doesn't display in chrome
[20:20] <bonhoeffer> but it does natively in nautilus (or the explorer in 12.04)
[20:20] <jrib> b636bc7ca: out of curiousity, what do you use them for?
[20:20] <Kishi> yeats: As an inexperienced user, I doubt I'll make anything out of it.
[20:21] <bonhoeffer> i'm wondering how ubuntu is pulling out this cool mouseover effect from a simple 64x64 graphic
[20:21] <bonhoeffer> the graphic appears to be no sprite
[20:21] <tbruff13> AndresSM, it is not just downloading packages it is installing
[20:21] <bonhoeffer> ikonia, make sense?
[20:21] <yeats> Kishi: you might be able to pastebin the log to see if someone here can assist
[20:21] <tbruff13> it is only download the dropbox kernel while trying to install the package
[20:21] <AndresSM> tbruff13: it's already installing and it's stuck? it downloads first
[20:21] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: I'm sorry, it doesn't make sense to me what you're asking
[20:21] <b636bc7ca> jrib: To switch my machine from a server to a desktop
[20:22] <bonhoeffer> ikonia, you should check this out . . . you download the graphics -- there is a sweet mouseover effect _only_ in ubuntu
[20:22] <bonhoeffer> from just looking in the directory
[20:22] <tbruff13> AndresSM, it already downloaded the packages, but within the natilius-dropobox package there is a download that it is frozen in watch ill show you
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: about what?
[20:22] <bonhoeffer> can't duplicate it anywhere else
[20:22] <b636bc7ca> jrib: For example, when I'm using it as my daily desktop machine, I don't want sshd and ftpd running; when I need to switch it to a server, I don't want X running.
[20:22] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip, my upgrade from kubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 is frozen
[20:23] <Kishi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330124/
[20:23] <jrib> b636bc7ca: I see
[20:23] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: it's just a mouse over set of images
[20:23] <Kishi> Here is the Xorg file
[20:23] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: I don't understand what the issue/question is
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: have you tried rebooting?
[20:23] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip, it is installing packages for kubuntu 12.10 wont that break my system
[20:24] <b636bc7ca> jrib: Thanks again for your help.
[20:25] <bonhoeffer> ikonia, no, it is not -- there is only one image there -- how can it be a "mouseover" set of images?
[20:25] <bonhoeffer> there is no sprite/css/or javascript at work
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: i'd give it a while, you may have to kill the process off then run ubottu's aptfix command
[20:25]  * wilee-nilee wonders why people upgrade out of 5 years support on 12.04, must be the street creds
[20:26] <phillijw> My PC has a PCIe video card (DVI) plus the onboad VGA -- can I use both of these to power 2 monitors?
[20:26] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip, i have given it an hour http://imagebin.org/234492
[20:26] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: how do you know ubuntu is using this theme pack ? what page are you viewing them on ?
[20:26]  * dr_willis wonders what most people think 'support' actually means... ;)
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> lol
[20:26] <adaminsull> HELP
[20:26] <ikonia> adaminsull: please don't do that
[20:26] <adaminsull> lol
[20:27] <ikonia> adaminsull: if you need help, just ask a question
[20:27] <dr_willis> 5 years from now we may all be using Ubuntu Phones and Ubuntu Tablets ;) and watching videos on our UbuntuTV's
[20:27] <ikonia> adaminsull: I'm not laughing
[20:27] <adaminsull> ok
[20:27] <iceroot> wilee-nilee: sometimes you need newer software (kernel, x, video driver) and dont want to mix to much in 12.04 so you will use 12.10 because you dont have to use ppas and so on for that
[20:27] <Kishi> So, again, one day I've booted in and discovered that I've been trapped in 800x600 resolution, which is really horrible
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, Don't forget th cerebral implant
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> the*
[20:27] <dr_willis> UbuntuTinFoilHat.
[20:27] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip, okay how can i kill the process and then run aptfix safely or as safe as possible
[20:27] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, can i have some that stuff you're smoking :)
[20:27] <Kishi> And wasn't able to go to higher resolution, despite reinstalling NVIDIA drivers a few times
[20:27] <iceroot> wilee-nilee: and in 5 years we dont use X11 anymore :) but 12.04 is still using X11 :)
[20:27] <ikonia> Kishi: how are you installing the nvidia drivers ?
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> iceroot, I would fresh install it as a dual first myself.
[20:28] <Kishi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330124/ here is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:28] <ikonia> Kishi: how are you installing the nvidia drivers ?
[20:28] <Kishi> I go into recovery mode, mount my file system and run a install script from root shell
[20:28] <iceroot> wilee-nilee: but when everything is running fine its "never touch a running system"
[20:29] <adaminsull> I need help with this error "tasksel: aptitude failed (100)" when trying to install lamp server
[20:29] <ikonia> Kishi: so you're getting drivers from nvidia.com
[20:29] <Kishi> Yes, I am.
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> iceroot, You have missed my point, just 7 months into 12.04 it seems like a phetish to upgrade, not so much use it for 5 years.
[20:29] <iceroot> adaminsull: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[20:29] <Ironsight> Has anyone tested installing ubuntu side by side with windows 8
[20:29] <Kishi> Sometimes I've had this problem
[20:29] <ikonia> Kishi: is there a reason you are no tusing the ones from the ubuntu software manager ?
[20:29] <adaminsull> will try
[20:29] <jrib> adaminsull: use « apt-get install TASK^ » where TASK is the task you were trying to install with tasksel
[20:29] <ikonia> Kishi: rather than the unsupported nvidia ones ?
[20:29] <yeats> Kishi: can you pastebin the output of 'lsmod'?
[20:29] <ikonia> Kishi: as every kernel update will break them
[20:29] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip, hello man is there anyway you can teach me to use aptfix
[20:30] <tbruff13> I assume i just use xkill to kill it
[20:30] <BKTech86> Hi, I'm trying to get the microphone working on my bluetooth headset (12.04 LTS), apparently it only works in telephony mode, the option shows up as an input method, but then I don't hear anything at all, and the mic levels detect nothing.  Can anyone help? thanks!
[20:30] <Kishi> ikonia: Perhaps because I don't have the software manager. I'm running on Kubuntu.
[20:30] <ikonia> Kishi: there is still a software manager and package manager to install the official packaged drivers
[20:30] <Kishi> ikonia: Muon?
[20:30] <ikonia> Kishi: that is a poor reason
[20:30] <kurumin> oi
[20:31] <ikonia> Kishi: there are multiple package managers available for kde.
[20:31] <bonhoeffer> ikonia, nautilus?
[20:31] <bonhoeffer> whatever the default window manager is
[20:31] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: I'm sorry I don't understand what you are actually asking, I suggest asking the channel as I'm losing interest
[20:31] <Kishi> Honestly, I didn't really know that Ubuntu offers their version of NVIDIA drivers
[20:31] <kurumin> oieeeeeeeeeeee
[20:31] <Kishi> I thought I can only get 'em from NVIDIA website
[20:31] <ikonia> kurumin: please don't
[20:31] <ikonia> !nvidia | kurumin
[20:31] <ikonia> oops
[20:31] <ikonia> !nvidia | Kishi
[20:31] <bonhoeffer> ikonia, you shouldn't -- this is very interesting
[20:32] <bonhoeffer> anyway -- what is the default window manager?
[20:32] <bonhoeffer> sorry, explorer
[20:32] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: sorry, I've lost interest as it's not interesting to me and I don't understand what you are asking
[20:32] <kurumin> yes
[20:32] <adaminsull> I got this http://pastebin.com/KCRdPytH
[20:32] <bonhoeffer> ikonia, fair enough
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> bonhoeffer, They will not follow kernel upgrades among other problems.
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> nvidia that is
[20:33] <bonhoeffer> does anyone know what would be causing a mouseover effect in nautilus?
[20:33] <tbruff13> ikonia, can I ask for some help from you maybe
[20:33] <ikonia> tbruff13: with what ?
[20:33] <bonhoeffer> how does nautilus interact with graphics?
[20:33] <bonhoeffer> png's in particular
[20:33] <adaminsull> Anyone?
[20:33] <ikonia> tbruff13: (normally best to ask the channel to see who can help)
[20:33] <tbruff13> I need to know how to kill a distrubution upgrade for kubuntu and use aptfix to fix the left over mess
[20:33] <tbruff13> ikonia, i have
[20:34] <tbruff13> but i cannot restart my computer like this
[20:34] <BKTech86> #bluez-users
[20:34] <tbruff13> if I do I will lose it and be lost in college next week
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> bonhoeffer, I thought you were commenting on the nvidia drivers from them, I misunderstood.
[20:34] <kurumin> way   not
[20:34] <bonhoeffer> no
[20:34] <ikonia> tbruff13: what is your actual question ?
[20:34] <kurumin> nathen
[20:34] <adaminsull> Seems I can't configure mysql-server 5
[20:34] <adaminsull> 5.5*
[20:34] <tbruff13> can you look at this please http://imagebin.org/234492 this will help you understand
[20:35] <ikonia> adaminsull: looks like its either already set and running, or it's not running
[20:35] <ikonia> adaminsull: probably the latter
[20:35] <tbruff13> this program that upgrades kubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 is frozen here
[20:35] <Kishi> Hmm.. In Additional Drivers menu I see different versions of NVIDIA drivers to activate
[20:35] <adaminsull> Well I got this
[20:35] <Kishi> Perhaps I should try different ones
[20:35] <tbruff13> how can i end it safely restart it and let it finish
[20:35] <Kishi> And see If It lets me go into higher resolution
[20:35] <yeats> adaminsull: check /var/log/mysql logs for messages about it
[20:35] <ikonia> Kishi: it won't work well now as you're ruined it with the nvidia.com install
[20:35] <adaminsull> http://pastebin.com/SGsC5QB1
[20:35] <yeats> tbruff13: frozen how?
[20:36] <ikonia> tbruff13: you'll have to restart the machine
[20:36] <Kishi> So what do you suggest?
[20:36] <tbruff13> ikonia, what will happen will it boot back up
[20:36] <ikonia> Kishi: if possible a clean install and do things properly
[20:36] <tbruff13> ikonia, i can xkill the process
[20:36] <SamWeasley> hi
[20:36] <ikonia> tbruff13: depends what's hung in the process
[20:36] <ikonia> tbruff13: it may / may not boot up
[20:36] <ikonia> tbruff13: kill the process if you want
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> tbruff13, Do you have access to the channel if you reboot and it does not boot?
[20:37] <adaminsull> How do I read the logs?
[20:37] <Kishi> ikonia: I'm really not sure how to properly uninstall nvidia.com drivers, as well as not screwing up X in the proccess.
[20:37] <ikonia> Kishi: that's why I suggested a clean install if possible to go to a known state
[20:38] <yeats> adaminsull: never mind - that's a apt/dpkg issue, not a mysql issue
[20:38] <ikonia> Kishi: there is no proper uninstall for nvidia.com you have to do it all manually
[20:38] <adaminsull> Any know how to fix this error
[20:38] <Kishi> ikonia: How would I do that?
[20:38] <rickybo> hey can some one help me install a tar.gz file
[20:38] <ikonia> Kishi: you get the install CD, boot from it and install
[20:38] <iceroot> rickybo: which program?
[20:38] <tbruff13>  wilee-nilee what is the process for kde panel i killed the wrong process
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> rickybo, What is the package
[20:38] <rickybo> bitcoin.07.0
[20:38] <ikonia> !install | Kishi
[20:38] <tbruff13> i have a terminal to restart it i just need the name
[20:38] <adaminsull> yeats: Ok so is mysql working or not?
[20:38] <SamWeasley> Can't use SAMBA to share a printer, although it already works for file server
[20:38] <SamWeasley> Quantal Quetzar
[20:38] <SamWeasley> *Quetzal
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> tbruff13, Not sure I have never used kde.
[20:38] <Kishi> ikonia: So I have to wipe my whole system? Great.
[20:38] <ikonia> Kishi: you don't have to
[20:39] <handuel> iceroot, try extracting the file, changing to it's directory and running make
[20:39] <rickybo> iceroot: wilee-nilee: bitcoin0.7.0
[20:39] <ikonia> Kishi: you can use backups, and a clean install is only my suggestion, not the law
[20:39] <yeats> adaminsull: it looks like it isn't getting installed, so not
[20:39] <ikonia> Kishi: I'm suggesting putting your machine into a know working state
[20:39] <adaminsull> yeats: So what do I do
[20:39] <yeats> adaminsull: have you installed mysql before this?
[20:39] <adaminsull> I need to install phpbb
[20:39] <adaminsull> No
[20:39] <ArchOpenBox> Kishi: hold on. I look at nvidia.com see what it is you installed and how to remove it. give me 2 mins.
[20:39] <Kishi> ikonia: Well, It seems like a better solution, but I'm not sure how to do that
[20:40] <yeats> adaminsull: one thing at a time - you have to fix APT before proceeding
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> rickybo, why would you not use what is in the repo?
[20:40] <adaminsull> yeats: Ok so how?
[20:40] <Kishi> [21:39:10ArchOpenBox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330124/
[20:40] <ArchOpenBox> Kishi: by the way I dont like playing with drives they have a funny way of not fully removing from ubuntu. If this were Arch Linux it would be a thousand times easier. Cant promise anything.
[20:41] <yeats> adaminsull: what is the output of 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'?
[20:41] <adaminsull> yeats: Just done "apt-get upgrade -y --force-yes"
[20:41] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: use cups to share printers
[20:41] <BKTech86> Hi, I'm trying to get the microphone working on my bluetooth headset (12.04 LTS), apparently it only works in telephony mode, the option shows up as an input method, but then I don't hear anything at all, and the mic levels detect nothing.  Can anyone help? thanks!
[20:41] <ikonia> AndresSM: please stop spewing lies
[20:41] <adaminsull> So i'll wait for that first
[20:41] <yeats> adaminsull: that won't work
[20:41] <AndresSM> ikonia: what?
[20:41] <adaminsull> Ok well i'll wait for it to do as it found a lotta stuff
[20:41] <Kishi> ArchOpenBox: I've heard rumours that NVIDIA never was Linux friendly.
[20:41] <BluesKaj> ikonia, how can one safely kill a distro upgrade that's using the update-manager , that's hung up on an app install (the app is dropbox )
[20:41] <yeats> adaminsull: the problem is with dpkg (which is a lower level program that apt uses)
[20:41] <rickybo> wilee-nilee: it gives me an error?
[20:41] <ikonia> AndresSM: sorry, that was for ArchOpenBox
[20:41] <adaminsull> ok
[20:41] <ikonia> BluesKaj: can't do it "safe"
[20:41] <AndresSM> ikonia: ohnp
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> rickbol, here is the PPA use it notice their version. https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/bitcoin
[20:42] <adaminsull> give me time for this to do then i'll do your command
[20:42] <ikonia> ArchOpenBox: please don't misslead people with nonsense information about arch
[20:42] <ikonia> AndresSM: sorry
[20:42] <SamWeasley> AndresSM - I need Samba because there's some windows machine on my network
[20:42] <handuel> nvidia has never been nice to linux, theres a video out there with linux sticking his middle finger up at them
[20:42] <jiohdi> I have ubuntu on hd, put a 2nd distro on a compact flash... they both boot fine, that is until I pull out the CF card, then the ubuntu says grub recovery>
[20:42] <jiohdi> help
[20:42] <ArchOpenBox> ikonia: Will not do so. Just want to look at install of driver. See what nvidia is doing.
[20:43] <BluesKaj> ikonia, ok , thought that might be the case
[20:43] <neure> how do i make ubuntu to boot straight to desktop instead of asking me to login?
[20:43] <lj1102> hello all :)
[20:43] <jiohdi> neure, under users you can chose auto login
[20:43] <handuel> neure, go to settings, user acounts, then click unlock, select your acount and choose auto login
[20:44] <jiohdi> that too
[20:44] <adaminsull> yeats: Same as I pastebinned
[20:44] <adaminsull> the unable to set pass
[20:44] <lj1102> somebody here can help me with uefi grub stuff?
[20:44] <burtonium> I have a question regarding VPN server. I have VPS with ubuntu server 12.04. I've installed L2TP/ipsec + PPP on it. I can connect to it. I can ping it, etc. The problem is that when I connect my whole LAN through mikrotik router and ipsec client to that VPN I need to add additional route to VPN server, which basically points to my home LAN. The problem is that when I DC from VPN that route is also delted and i need to add it back manually ag
[20:44] <burtonium> Is there a way I can fix this with some script that runs when ppp0 comes up, or is there a way to make router persistent even if there is no ppp0 device active?
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> !uefi
[20:44] <adaminsull> yeats: This is the output http://pastebin.com/PQ3WfWxd
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> !info uefi
[20:45] <Kishi> Great. He was supposed to help me, and now he's been kicked.
[20:45] <rickybo> wilee-nilee: I have already done that I believe?
[20:45] <rickybo> wilee-nilee: do I just download it and open it?
[20:46] <neure> handuel, automatic login is not enabled
[20:46] <lj1102> I've tried to use boot-repair tool mentioned on ubuntu page but it wont rewrite my grub enties :/
[20:46] <neure> i cant enable it
[20:46] <neure> it wont
[20:46] <gordonjcp> Kishi: who has?
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> rickybo, You believe, you can check to be sure it is in either software.sources.list or  software.sources.list.d
[20:46] <Kishi> gordonjcp: ArchOpenBox
[20:46] <yeats> adaminsull: yikes - several problems
[20:47] <gordonjcp> Kishi: oh, well
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> rickybo, A ppa is added to your repo list it tells you how on the page then you update and then install the package.
[20:47] <yeats> adaminsull: what did you do before to install this?  (e.g., have you installed anything from source?)
[20:47] <gordonjcp> Kishi: maybe he should have stopped gibbering on about Arch and annoying the ops the first time he was told, or the second maybe
[20:47] <handuel> neure, can you screenshot you're accounts setting for me
[20:48] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: you can share with cups for windows machines
[20:48] <handuel> coming onto the ubuntu irc and then saying his distro of choice is better is hardly a way to stick around
[20:48] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: can you browse to https://localhost:631 ?
[20:48] <Kishi> gordonjcp: I'm not sure I understand, Is he not allowed to express his opinion that "Arch is better" here?
[20:48] <neure> handuel, i have only single account which account type is administrator
[20:49] <ikonia> Kishi: his opinion that arch is better, no problem. Him giving you miss-information, unacceptable.
[20:49] <neure> #doh
[20:49] <neure> i didnt unlock it :D
[20:49] <gordonjcp> Kishi: is it relevant to Ubuntu support?
[20:49] <handuel> neure :D
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> Kishi, This is ubuntu support not arch suppory basically
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> support*
[20:49] <SamWeasley> AndresSM: I'm on a client machine, but can't open server CUPS admin page from it...
[20:49] <burtonium> its all linux
[20:49] <Kishi> And he was trying to give me that support, for Ubuntu. He only stated something about Arch by the way
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> burtonium, The channel info lays out the premise.
[20:50] <burtonium> manytimes i've fixed things with solutions from another distro
[20:50] <ikonia> Kishi: which was lies.
[20:50] <yeats> !guidelines
[20:50] <fyksen> Hey! I just install ubuntu 12.10. Now my network indicator applet shows that I'm offline,  but I got a internet connection.  Is there a easy fix for this?
[20:50] <Kishi> ikonia: Maybe so. Though I wouldn't even take his lies as a basis to switch to Arch.
[20:51] <ikonia> Kishi: I don't care if you do switch to arch, it's your decision, however miss-leading people in the channel is unacceptable, so he was removed.
[20:51] <rickybo> wilee-nilee: thank you very much it is installed and up
[20:51] <tbruff13> vsn i have
[20:51] <Kishi> ikonia: I'm not sure if he did that on purpose
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> rickybo, Cool, ;)
[20:51] <SamWeasley> AndresSM: ran nmap from a client to the server. Port 631 closed
[20:51] <iceroot> what is ubuntu using for home-encryption? my user-password directly or a passphrase/key which is protected with my user-password?
[20:52] <Kishi> ikonia: Maybe he didn't know he was wrong
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | tbruff13
[20:52] <yeats> Kishi: best let it go
[20:52] <ikonia> Kishi: then he was incapable of helping you
[20:52] <tbruff13> AndresSM: heyActionit is to late
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: had to go sort a backup so was AFK
[20:52] <rickybo> wilee-nilee: if I wanted to open it from the terminal can I just type in bitcoins-qt
[20:52] <tbruff13> i am tryng to do thsat
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> rickybo, Not sure I have never used it.
[20:53] <Kishi> ikonia: I won't question staff's decision since it may be considered rude. Though IMO he could have been warned first, and then banned if his behavior continued. Just sayin'
[20:53] <rickybo> wilee-nilee: well thanks anyway I owe you one
[20:53] <tbruff13> I am in recovery mode being told when i run that command that /dev/sda1 is read only
[20:53] <tbruff13> what mount command will fix that
[20:54] <tbruff13> so i can run sudo dpkg --configure --a
[20:54] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: hmm let me see how to enable it
[20:54] <jrib> tbruff13: mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1
[20:54] <jaha> any idea why "exec sudo log.io harvester start" doesnt work the first time in an upstart script but the second time it does  the cmd runs but doesnt have access to the net tht first time? its set to start on 2345
[20:54] <tbruff13> thanks
[20:54] <jrib> jaha: why don't you have it depend on networknig to start?
[20:54] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: I think by default it works localhost only
[20:54] <dooglus> I tried installing lubuntu, but the installer hung for a couple of hours about 90% through.  how do I finish the install by hand?
[20:55] <zdkl> hola
[20:55] <SamWeasley> AndresSM: yep
[20:55] <zdkl> este es en español¿¿???
[20:55] <burtonium> @kishi: type in google How do I remove the driver installed from nvidia.com
[20:55] <jrib> !es | zdkl
[20:55] <zdkl> creo q no
[20:55] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: well you'd need to run it from host machine then or via ssh forwarding
[20:55] <burtonium> kishi: follow the guide, then try to install nvidia drivers from ubuntu
[20:55] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: got linux clients?
[20:55] <zdkl> ubuntu-es
[20:55] <zdkl> join #ubuntu-es
[20:56] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: regardless, I guess you could ssh forward ports
[20:56] <bekks> zdkl: "/join ..."
[20:56] <zdkl> jeje ok ok
[20:56] <AndresSM> otherwise you might need to edit cupds.conf to enable remote admin
[20:56] <Kishi> burtonium: Someone here suggested going into a known working state before
[20:56] <Kishi> burtonium: So then I could install the drivers from Ubuntu.
[20:56] <Kishi> burtonium: I don't know how I would do that, tho.
[20:57] <tbruff13> thanks guys i owe you one
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: all ok?
[20:57] <yeats> Kishi: reinstallation is probably the only sure way
[20:58] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: there is a webinterface line there, set it to yes, for reference here is my cupsd.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330220/
[20:58] <Kishi> yeats: I was thinking about reverting to old xorg.conf
[20:58] <Kishi> yeats: Back when I wasn't using NVIDIA drivers yet
[20:59] <Kishi> yeats: Though It may not work now
[20:59] <adaminsull> yeats: ircd etc
[20:59] <adaminsull> but what can I do?
[20:59] <yeats> adaminsull: huh?
[20:59] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: yep it is setting up the missing packages
[20:59] <adaminsull> yeats: to fix those errors
[20:59] <burtonium> kishi: never heard of system restore in ubuntu
[21:00] <tbruff13> and installing everything that was supposed to be installed after the freeze
[21:00] <Kishi> burtonium: ikonia mentioned something about it
[21:00] <tbruff13> it was the dropbox package that caused the freeze that needs to be reported
[21:00] <burtonium> kishi: well in that case you know who to ask ;)
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: coolies
[21:01] <adaminsull> yeats: What now?
[21:01] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: do i need to file a bug about dropbox causing the upgrade to freeze?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: i would
[21:01] <tbruff13> ok
[21:02] <mrgoodcat> anybody here know of a way to connect a RAID to two ubuntu servers so if the primary server goes down the secondary server immediately takes up where the primary left off?
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> tbruff13, Glad to hear things seem to be running. You might look at clonezilla fro sytem images so you wont ever lose anything and a backup for home.
[21:02] <Kishi> burtonium: I think he's away
[21:02] <gordonjcp> mrgoodcat: it's called a SAN
[21:02] <blistov> i uninstalled xen-hypervisor and removed the /boot/vmlinuz that came with it.  when i reinstall xen, the kernel doesn't come back.
[21:03] <blistov> what gives/
[21:03] <gordonjcp> mrgoodcat: there's a whole world of high-availability computing waiting out there to drive you mad and consume all your money
[21:03] <blistov> also, i was attempting to reinstall xen because I installed jack audio and then xen wouldn't boot.
[21:03] <tbruff13> wilee-nilee: everything i need is in my dropbox
[21:03] <yeats> adaminsull: I would look try 'sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server'?
[21:03] <SamWeasley> Now open
[21:03] <mrgoodcat> gordonjcp: not me, the company i work for
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: you can start the process with:  ubuntu-bug nautilus-dropbox
[21:03] <SamWeasley> AndresSM - now open
[21:03] <tbruff13> customization is just a minor loss if the system did crash out
[21:03] <adaminsull> yeats: Ok
[21:03] <mrgoodcat> we just had a server go down and piss off a lot of people so my boss wants it to not happen again
[21:04] <yeats> adaminsull: you're saying that it was not installed before, but the errors indicate that there is data corruption somewhere
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> tbruff13, Except that you need a running computer to use it, clonzilla will do network backups.
[21:04] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: my computer is still in recovery mode i am using a windoze and the webchat to talk to you
[21:04] <tbruff13> wilee-nilee: what is clonezilla
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> tbruff13, A cloner
[21:04] <yeats> adaminsull: if that command doesn't work, I would look into manually deleting the mysql data directory
[21:04] <Kishi> So to sum it up:
[21:04] <adaminsull> yeats:
[21:04] <adaminsull> libc6 : Depends: libc-bin (= 2.15-0ubuntu10) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.3 is to be installed
[21:04] <adaminsull>  libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.15-0ubuntu10.3) but 2.15-0ubuntu10 is to be installed
[21:04] <adaminsull> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: gotcha, you can use this link if you want
[21:04] <Kishi> The only way to get rid of nvidia.com drivers
[21:04] <yeats> adaminsull: pastebin, please ;-)
[21:04] <adaminsull> ok
[21:05] <Kishi> Is to reinstall Ubuntu...
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> tbruff13, http://clonezilla.org/
[21:05] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip: what link???
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: there is a link on launchpad to manually report a bug, its named on the Ubuntu bug reporting page
[21:05] <tbruff13> ok
[21:05] <yeats> adaminsull: but to fix that, try doing 'apt-get -f install' as suggested
[21:05] <adaminsull> ok
[21:06] <xubentu> hi good morning, if you're in asia ..
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> tbruff13, I just could relate to your college studies, I'm in grad scool right now and cannot lose anything is all. ;)
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> school*
[21:06] <tbruff13> i will try it out
[21:06] <SamWeasley> AndresSM now I enter, but gives me a Forbidden on navigator on the CUPS admin
[21:06] <adaminsull> yeats: http://pastebin.com/4QL3g0zE
[21:07] <yeats> adaminsull: whoa - what release of ubuntu are you running?
[21:07] <adaminsull> How do I check?
[21:07] <savio> i have one unallocated partition when i use gparted to partition it says there should only 4 primary partition not more than that
[21:08] <xubentu> uname -a
[21:08] <savio> what should i do?
[21:08] <adaminsull> yeats:
[21:08] <adaminsull> Linux zxdhfdai 2.6.18-308.el5.028stab099.3 #1 SMP Wed Mar 7 15:56:00 MSK 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[21:08] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: try https
[21:09] <ubuntu-fan001> hi
[21:09] <yeats> adaminsull: 'cat /etc/lsb-release'
[21:09] <savio> here is pastebin for fdisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330257/
[21:09] <adaminsull> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[21:09] <adaminsull> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
[21:09] <adaminsull> DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
[21:09] <adaminsull> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS"
[21:09] <FloodBot1> adaminsull: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <adaminsull> ok
[21:09] <blistov> anyone know how to force the re-installation of the xen vmlinuz kernel?
[21:10] <wols> blistov: dpkg -i <package filename>
[21:10] <adaminsull> yeats: any idea?
[21:10] <blistov> wols: i don't know what the package name is.
[21:10] <blistov> I figured it came with one of the xen packages that are already installed.
[21:10] <wols> blistov: packages.ubuntu.com does
[21:10] <yeats> adaminsull: I'm very confused about why you're running a 2.6.18 kernel if you're on 12.04
[21:10] <xubentu> you're running kernel 2.6 right? adamin
[21:10] <ubuntu-fan001> i have ubuntu 12.04 .and i installed ked-full and kubuntu in my ubuntu.i want to remove kde and kubuntu.where can i start
[21:11] <adaminsull> 2.6..18
[21:11] <adaminsull> Then what can I do to updade it?
[21:11] <xubentu> yeah, maybe install the latest kernel .. 3.6
[21:11] <adaminsull> update*
[21:11] <adaminsull> how?
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> adaminsull: you should reboot to load the new kernel
[21:11] <yeats> adaminsull: try rebooting
[21:11] <adaminsull> ActionParsnip: Will I loose any data?
[21:11] <Linkandzelda__> does anyome have any tips for speeding up "reading package lists..." ?
[21:11] <yeats> adaminsull: nope
[21:12] <adaminsull> yeats: How do I reboot?
[21:12] <brzJunior> can anyone help me to install xulrunner?
[21:12] <savio> i have one unallocated partition when i use gparted to partition it says there should only 4 primary partition not more than that
[21:12] <savio> what should i do?
[21:12] <yeats> adaminsull: sudo shutdown -r now
[21:12] <savio> i have one unallocated partition when i use gparted to partition it says there should only 4 primary partition not more than that
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, What desktop do you want and what release is it?
[21:12] <savio> here is pastebin for fdisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330257/
[21:12] <diensthunds> Looking for the boot paramaters for ubuntu when serving it over a pxe server
[21:12] <adaminsull> yeats: then how to boot?
[21:12] <blistov> wols: that package is xen-hypervisor-4.1
[21:12] <blistov> which i just reinstalled and still no kernel.
[21:12] <ubuntu-fan001> unity and 12.04
[21:12] <yeats> adaminsull: er... that will do it
[21:12] <blistov> so i figure the kernel must normally come in another package.
[21:12] <blistov> ?
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, Ah I see 12.04 what desktop do you want?
[21:13] <wols> blistov: check /var/cache/apt/archives/
[21:13] <systematical> hello i am trying to setup routing on my system so local requests coming in on eth0 will go throw wlan1 and out to the internet
[21:13] <blistov> wols: did.
[21:13] <xubentu> adamin, try to look at this: http://blog.hostonnet.com/how-to-install-linux-kernel-3-4-0-on-ubuntu-12-04-11-10
[21:13] <ubuntu-fan001> i have unity ,but i want to remove kde
[21:13] <blistov> reinstalled everything that starts with xen
[21:13] <bekks> !router | systematical
[21:13] <wols> if it's not there, get it frm packages.ubuntu.com
[21:13] <bekks> hmmm.
[21:13] <wols> blistov: reinstalled how?
[21:13] <yeats> !botsnack
[21:13] <xubentu> bye
[21:13] <systematical> when i bring up eth0 the system starts sending requests through eth0 instead of wlan1 i think
[21:14] <bekks> systematical: http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/ubuntu-as-a-firewallgateway-router/
[21:14] <blistov> wols:  dpkg -i xen*
[21:14] <adaminsull_> yeats: Done
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> savio, What are you trying to do actually?
[21:14] <adaminsull_> How do I start my znc again?
[21:14] <blistov> the problem seems to be that I don't know what package contains that kernel.
[21:14] <wols> blistov: what problem are you trying to solve?
[21:14] <yeats> adaminsull_: okay, then try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[21:14] <wols> blistov: kernels are in "linux-image*"
[21:14] <blistov> wols: my /boot/vmlinuz (xen kernel) is gone.
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> blistov: linux-image-generic   or linux-image-generic-pae
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntuprecise
[21:14] <adaminsull_> yeats: How do I boot my znc
[21:14] <blistov> wols: i'm guessing you haven't installed xen...
[21:14] <yeats> adaminsull_: what is 'znc'?
[21:15] <savio> wilee-nilee, i have one unallocated space i want to make use of that it's about 60 gb
[21:15] <GIant81> quick question on Ubuntu server
[21:15] <adaminsull_> what runs a bnc
[21:15] <wols> blistov: I'm guessing you don't know how kernels are named
[21:15] <SamWeasley> forgot to enable on  the <> sections
[21:15] <GIant81> how easy is it to install an LDAP, bind, dhcp server and manage it with Ubuntu?
[21:15] <blistov> wols: thanks. very helpful.
[21:15] <lj1102> hey, can somebody help me fixing my uefi path for my windows7 dualboot option ?
[21:15] <yeats> adaminsull_: sorry, I don't know that that is
[21:15] <blistov> i didn't think to check if my running system has a kernel installed.
[21:15] <adaminsull_> ok
[21:15] <blistov> ...
[21:15] <wols> blistov: ActionParsnip told you what to get
[21:15] <GIant81> my intention is to build a full windows AD type network with single signon but use linux to do it
[21:15] <blistov> linux-image-generic installed the generic kernel.
[21:16] <adaminsull_> yeats: FATAL -> Failed to fork. 0%
[21:16] <blistov> does not install a kernel called "vmlinuz" which is what xen uses.
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> savio, YOu only have 2 primaries and the extended, where is the unallocated, a gparted screenshot would be rather helpful.
[21:16] <yeats> adaminsull_: can you provide some context for that error?
[21:16] <wols> blistov: vmlinuz is a simple symlink generally
[21:16] <savio> wilee-nilee, where should i post that screenshot
[21:16] <blistov> reinstalled linux-image-generic.
[21:16] <blistov> still not there.
[21:16] <adaminsull_> root@zxdhfdai:~# sudo apt-get -f install
[21:16] <adaminsull_> FATAL -> Failed to fork. 0%
[21:16] <blistov> ...
[21:16] <adaminsull_> Thats all it said
[21:17] <adaminsull_> yeats:
[21:17] <FloodBot1> adaminsull_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:17] <blistov> wols:  are you sure that's how it works?
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, Does that link make sense you can remove whole desktops by running the lists.
[21:17] <blistov> I really don't believe so.
[21:17] <wols> blistov: yes
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | savio
[21:17] <yeats> adaminsull_: it looks like your system is borked
[21:17] <ubuntu-fan001> yeah i think so
[21:17] <adaminsull_> yeats: can't be
[21:17] <ubuntu-fan001> thanx for that
[21:17] <mjc_> Afternoon all
[21:17] <blistov> so why when I installed jack, did my xen kernel stop booting but my regular kernel (which you are saying was the same kernel) does not boot?
[21:17] <adaminsull_> yeats: I just need to install phpbb
[21:17] <ubuntu-fan001> another question
[21:18] <wols> blistov: tho, ubuntu has package with a vmlinuz kernel file. NONE. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=vmlinuz&mode=&suite=quantal&arch=any
[21:18] <ubuntu-fan001> first i want to get rid of the kde login
[21:18] <mjc_> l
[21:18] <wols> *has no package
[21:18] <savio> wilee-nilee, http://imagebin.org/234497
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, Coo no problem, try to use nicks on the channel you can autocomplete them with the tab. It is going pretty fast right now and it is easy to get lost. ;)
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> cool*
[21:18] <wols> blistov: where did you get your kernel from? probably not ubuntu repos
[21:18] <mjc_> l
[21:18] <bluegrass> how do i maximize windows i see no bar where i ought :C
[21:19] <Linkandzelda__> for some reason I'm unable to install Skype in Ubuntu 12.10, it says the ppa gives a 404 and software center force closes. what can I do to fix this? thanks
[21:19] <adaminsull_> yeats: ?
[21:19] <yeats> adaminsull_: that error can't be good in any case
[21:19] <mjc_> tried dragging them to the top bluegrass ?
[21:19] <wols> !skype
[21:19] <bluegrass> no bar to drag
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> bluegrass: if you hold ALT and drag it down, is one there?
[21:19] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, okey but i cant copy paste ur name
[21:19] <bluegrass> thanks yall
[21:19] <adaminsull_> yeats: ok but how can I install phpbb?
[21:19] <yeats> adaminsull_: I think you're beyond my ability to help - looks like you have deeper system issues
[21:19] <adaminsull_> :/
[21:19] <bluegrass> ActionParsnip figgered it out :>
[21:19] <adaminsull_> Somone?
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> savio, Yeah you have 3 primaries just expand the sda3 into that space using a live cd and gparted, make sure the swap is unmounted when you do.
[21:20] <mjc_> whats up adaminsull_
[21:20] <adaminsull_> mjc_: I want to install phpbb but getting lots of errors
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, Hehe that worked.
[21:20] <mjc_> how did you attempt to install it / what errors ?
[21:21] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, what is quicket way to answer with nickname
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> savio, As long as you are not trying to put a bpptable windows in the extended you will be fine.
[21:21] <wols> blistov: what files show up: ls -l /boot/vmlinuz*
[21:21] <adaminsull_> FATAL -> Failed to fork. 0%
[21:21] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, every time i have to write ur name
[21:21] <adaminsull_> Worked before I did a reboot
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, Type a few letters of ot then hit the tab to auto complete the nick.
[21:21] <savio> wilee-nilee, how ? no i'll not using windows
[21:22] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, oh i see
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> savio, How what?
[21:22] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, nice
[21:22] <blistov> wols:  nothing.
[21:22] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, thanx
[21:22] <SamWeasley> AndresSM - i can see now the adminstration page
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001,  no problem. ;)
[21:22] <savio> wilee-nilee, how can i expand sda3 you mean to say move/resize
[21:22] <blistov> don't worry about it.  will just rebuild from source.
[21:22] <SamWeasley> and now I can add a printer via KDE Control center
[21:23] <wols> blistov: dpkg -l libc6|tail -1; dpkg -l linux*
[21:23] <adaminsull_> yeats: it was not showing failed to fork before u told me to reboot
[21:23] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, so how can i get rid of the kde login
[21:23] <wols> blistov: if you do compile your own, I very strongly suggest you use kernel-package
[21:24] <blistov> already done.
[21:24] <blistov> Now back to my original problem.
[21:24] <yeats> adaminsull_: rebooting it was necessary to fix the dpkg issues - you have something wrong with your system
[21:24] <blistov> *sigh*.
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> savio, You need to be on a live cd to resize Linux partitions they can't be mounted. You would right click on the sda3 partitiopn then resize and drag the right end as far as it will go.
[21:24] <adaminsull_> Gonna delete all mysql
[21:24] <blistov> wols: installed Jack and then Xen no longer boots.  errors out with ataN.00: failed to identify (i/o error
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, If you use the list to remove the kde it should be gone.
[21:25] <blistov> using the same kernel for my other bootup.
[21:25] <blistov> works fine.
[21:25] <wols> !confmiss
[21:25] <blistov> same options other than the xen dom0 kernel is also loading.
[21:25] <wols> blistov: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>
[21:25] <savio> wilee-nilee, and what is with swap space ? and why this can't happen on running system just asking
[21:25] <wols> that will recreate your vmlinuz symlink
[21:25] <SamWeasley> AndresSM - I can now print from my machine
[21:26] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, its a long list and it is very risky , u lose lots of app,the kde login is good for start.
[21:26] <GIant81> Anyone done LDAP installs on Ubuntu?
[21:26] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: you mean all good now?
[21:26] <yeats> !ldap | GIant81
[21:26] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, if its possible!!!!
[21:27] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: I guess you added the printer by http://ip_add:631/printers/printername right? if so, glad to have helped
[21:27] <edlik> Can anyone help me. I upgraded to 12.10 and now my only display option is 640x480, it should be 1280x1024. I googled it and tried other suggestions to no avail.
[21:27] <thelinux> edlik: Install proprietary drivers.
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> edlik: what video chip are you using?
[21:27] <SamWeasley> *AndresSM - now I just need to setup it on a Windows machine
[21:27] <AndresSM> oh
[21:27] <AndresSM> ok
[21:27] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: windows 7?
[21:28] <SamWeasley> AndresSM - yes
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> savio, I just noticed the swap is a primary and it is a sda4 you will have to remove it to resize the sda3 just put it back inside the extended so that you have the partitions in numerical order left to right
[21:28] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: just go to printers, add new printer
[21:28] <AndresSM> there select network printer
[21:28] <AndresSM> and printer wasn't listed
[21:29] <savio> wilee-nilee, so i'll be having no swap
[21:29] <thelinux> edlik: Go to System Settings;Software Sources;Additional Drivers tab. And install newest version driver for your graphics card.
[21:29] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: then the important step, Select printer  by name and type: http://your_cups_ip:631/printers/printer_queue_name
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> savio, That extended can be resized from bothe ends and the partitions inside it as well. Never get the partition numbers out of line numerically left to right looking at them in gparted
[21:29] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: printerqueue name can be found in the cups web interface
[21:29] <edlik> thelinux: thank you I will try that
[21:29] <thelinux> edlik: Let me know if it works.
[21:30] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: after that, make sure to select the correct driver, ps version (postscript)
[21:30] <AndresSM> and that should be all
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> savio, YOU can put gthe swap in the extended, you are going to expand it to the unallocated.
[21:31] <SamWeasley> AndresSM - okay. Thanks!
[21:31] <ubuntu-fan001> how can i get rid of the kde login
[21:31] <mjc_> what are you running ?
[21:32] <savio> wilee-nilee, so you suggesting that i'll first remove swap then size it and again allocate swap correct me if i wrong
[21:32] <ubuntu-fan001> is the kde login screen = KDM
[21:33] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: let me know if it works
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> savio, You will have to remove the swap first to do anything with the sda3 yes.
[21:33] <jetole> Hey guys. I want to evaluate some different window managers. Is there any way I can run gnome 3 shell, kde, etc in a window in my current desktop without having to exit back to lightdm each time? I'm currently running cinnamon on ubuntu 12.04 AMD64
[21:33] <ubuntu-fan001> "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge kdm " does the job???!!?!?!?
[21:33] <FrozenFire> My younger sister just recently acquired a new system, and I'm having some issues getting Ubuntu installed alongside Windows. I had initially installed Windows 7 HP, to avoid any funny business with the boot loader, but I'm discovering that Windows installed in UEFI mode. What I'm finding is that Ubuntu isn't installing GRUB when I install it to a separate partition. Is there anything I need to know about installing Ubuntu with UEF
[21:33] <FrozenFire> I alongside Windows?
[21:34] <ubuntu-fan001> anyone?
[21:34] <ubuntu-fan001> somebody
[21:34] <jetole> ubuntu-fan001: kdm = KDE display manager http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Display_Manager
[21:34] <thelinux> ubuntu-fan001: Yes.
[21:35] <savio> wilee-nilee, thanks i'll report you what happened
[21:35] <edlik> thelinux: additional drivers tab is empty. how do I get it to recognize my graphics card?
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> savio, You can then exspand the sda3 into te space the swap was in, and then the sd5 into the space left from the sda3 moved to the left. Now do this all one at a time, don't set all of this to run continuously
[21:35] <thelinux> edlik: What graphics card are you using?
[21:35] <ubuntu-fan001> thelinux, jetole  thanx
[21:36] <mjc_> FrozenFire do you have ur windows 7 cd ?
[21:36] <jetole> so yeah, any way I can run a display manager in a window i.e. run gnome 3 in a window without having to kill my current display manager? I could have swore I saw this done 5 years ago or more
[21:36] <jetole> without vm
[21:36] <edlik> thelinux: AMD Radeon X300
[21:38] <thelinux> edlik: Which Ubuntu? 32 bit or 64 bit?
[21:38] <Linkandzelda__> I dont believe this. MSN and Google Talk accounts not working in empathy on 12.10?
[21:38] <mspencer> I want to fix a bug in Quantal that also exists in Precise. Which package do I work on? Current, or Quantal?
[21:39] <edlik> thelinux:32bit
[21:40] <antivirys> :)
[21:40] <t4b> Is there an easy way to automatically remove stuff from trash which has been there for longer than x days if it's bigger than y bits?
[21:40] <jetole> well I found the answer to my question. Can next WM's via xnest, xephyr and other similar apps
[21:40] <t4b> (or megabytes, rather, but doesn't matter)
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda__: are there any bugs reported?
[21:40] <thelinux> edlik: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[21:40] <jetole> *can nest WM's
[21:40] <SamWeasley> AndresSM - worked okay on a Windows 7 64 bit machine
[21:40] <systematical> bekks: getting Destination host unreachable when pinging eth0 from windows machine
[21:40] <Linkandzelda__> ActionParsnip: yes, its a confirmed bug, i just dont beleive it lol
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> t4b, You can delete without ever putting stuff there if you want easily.
[21:41] <SamWeasley> Anything I need to know about different settings on a XP or Vista?
[21:41] <bekks> systematical: After doing what exactly...?
[21:41] <Linkandzelda__> i'd call it a huge bug rendering the app useless >_>
[21:41] <systematical> bekks: following the tutorial you sent me
[21:41] <bekks> systematical: I havent read it, to be honest.
[21:41] <sevenforall> Does anyone know of a tool that lets me set the file- and foldernames of my music collection to equal its ID3 tags?
[21:41] <thelinux> edlik: Did you directly upgraded from 12.04? I think you should do fresh install, cause I had problems when I directly upgraded distribution. Did Ubuntu recognized and downloaded drivers on 12.04? Or this problem occurs only on 12.10?
[21:41] <sevenforall> I read a lot about doing the inverse, but that's not what I'm looking for. The ID3 tags are all correct, the filenames aren't.
[21:41] <bekks> systematical: easytag
[21:41] <systematical> bekks: :-(
[21:41] <bekks> GNA.
[21:41] <rsolma> hi
[21:42] <bekks> sevenforall: easytag. :)
[21:42] <bekks> systematical: So you have to be more precise please.
[21:42] <sevenforall> bekks: It seems to be able to do filename>tag, but not the inverse :-P
[21:42] <bekks> sevenforall: It is. I am using it for years now.
[21:42] <AndresSM> SamWeasley: tbh I don't know
[21:42] <t4b> wilee-nilee, I know, but I like being able to undo stuff, I just don't want it to waste too much space on my harddrive.
[21:42] <AndresSM> it should work tho
[21:42] <nothingspecial> sevenforall: puddletag will do it both ways
[21:42] <sevenforall> bekks: Could you give me a hint
[21:42] <sevenforall> + ?
[21:43] <systematical> bekks: the idea here is to turn my ubuntu system into a router, windows connects to eth0 and external requests go out wlan1
[21:43] <bekks> sevenforall: The menu icons do have tooltips :)
[21:43] <rsolma> why does amazon appear in my home folder on 12.04.1?
[21:43] <sevenforall> bekks: They do... I can't find anything even close
[21:43] <edlik> thelinux: I did upgrade from 12.04 and yes, I did have a problem with 12.04 .
[21:43] <guntbert> sevenforall: easytag can do both and a lot more
[21:43] <thelinux> edlik: Try going to that link I gave you to download ATI driver. If that wont solve the problem do it as I said before, fresh install.
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> t4b, One could probably write a script to do this, but it would seem easier to just pay attention, and also realize that you should not have your HD more then about 70% full to run optimally.
[21:44] <sevenforall> guntbert: Apparently, but I still don't know how
[21:44] <bekks> sevenforall: "Scan files" :)
[21:44] <t4b> wilee-nilee, I found something called "autotrash" in the repo, trying it right now. I don't want to pay attention, I'm lazy.
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> rsolma: not in dash, but your home folder?
[21:45] <nothingspecial> sevenforall: or use puddletag and click the big F
[21:45] <thelinux> edlik: Or problem even could be because of AMD's bad support for Linux drivers. I even had a problem back in Ubuntu 10.04 with my NVIDIA drivers.
[21:45] <sevenforall> bekks: My biggest problem is that I don't see anything that lets me actually apply/process it :P
[21:45] <bassna> hello. could anybody help me get a program to install right, i cant seem to ge tit
[21:45] <sevenforall> I can see a lot of configuration, but no action button
[21:45] <SamWeasley> AndresSM - okay. Thanks anyway.
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> t4b, Hehe I know the feeling, thats why I just delete it.
[21:45] <rsolma> i think so
[21:45] <SamWeasley> By for now.
[21:45] <SamWeasley> *bye
[21:45] <rsolma> it has a music note
[21:45] <bekks> sevenforall: "Scan files", do you changes, then "Save files".
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> bassna: what app?
[21:45] <ubuntu-fan001> hi again
[21:45] <ubuntu-fan001> its not working
[21:45] <rsolma> and amovie image
[21:45] <sevenforall> bekks: It would be nice if it would show me what's going to change as well
[21:46] <rsolma> i heard amazon now is integrated?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> rsolma: so when you click the home folder in dash, you see an amazon thing?
[21:46] <bekks> sevenforall: It actually does. You tell it what you want to change.
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> rsolma, YOU can reach it from a lens
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> rsolma: yes, it can be removed though, remove it if you don't want to use it
[21:46] <bekks> sevenforall: And changed files are marked in red, and get black after saving them.
[21:46] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, i did what u gave me but its gave me error
[21:46] <rsolma> i typed the terminal code
[21:46] <edlik> thelinux: is there such thing as the perfect set up for a ubuntu system? If there is, I may have to build one.
[21:47] <rephy222> anyone have a copy of the default hosts file for ubuntu 11.10
[21:47] <rsolma> its still there
[21:47] <gordonjcp> edlik: depends on what you call "perfect"
[21:47] <sevenforall> bekks: If I change the Directory/Filename scan to use the tags, I don't see an OKAY button or something
[21:47] <rsolma> does 12.04.1 have a lens
[21:47] <thelinux> edlik: Did you try to download that driver from AMD's site?
[21:47] <rsolma> from amazon
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, What is the error?
[21:48] <edlik> thelinux:it is installing now
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> rephy222: I can make you one
[21:48] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, Package kubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed
[21:48] <ubuntu-fan001> Package kdm is not installed, so not removed
[21:48] <ubuntu-fan001> Package libkdecorations4 is not installed, so not removed
[21:48] <ubuntu-fan001> Package libkdegames5a is not installed, so not removed
[21:48] <ubuntu-fan001> Package libkwineffects1abi3 is not installed, so not removed
[21:48] <ubuntu-fan001> Package libkwinglutils1 is not installed, so not removed
[21:48] <FloodBot1> ubuntu-fan001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:48] <rsolma> i know theres a terminal code that will remove lens
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, Had you removed anything already, and is this a straight kubuntu-desktop
[21:49] <rephy222> ok
[21:49] <ubuntu-fan001> FloodBot1, sorry sorry i'm new
[21:49] <bekks> sevenforall: Scan files -> tell what you want to change -> Click Scan Files button -> Click close button -> Click save files button.
[21:49] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, yes
[21:49] <thelinux> edlik: Did you try to setup resolution? Go to dash and type "Displays".
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> rephy222: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330332/
[21:50] <bassna> action, im trying to get ProjectM to work. i have it installed but it wont open
[21:50] <rsolma> unable to locate lens
[21:50] <rephy222> thaks
[21:50] <lilcyber> Is there a support channal?
[21:50] <guntbert> mspencer: quantal *is* current :-)
[21:50] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, i'm on the unity desktop i wanted to try out the kde , so installed it and now i want to remove kde again
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> bassna: have you tried running it from terminal?
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, If it is only that 4 files then copy the list to a gedit and remove those from the list and run it again.  The deal with doing it this way is  the full desktop has to be there to begin with if not you have to edit the list.  There may be other ways but not easier.
[21:51] <bassna> yeah when i first installed, it was like 2 weeks ago
[21:51] <guntbert> lilcyber: this is the ubuntu support channel, welcome
[21:51] <bassna> it gave me a error
[21:51] <bassna> let me find the command to open it
[21:51] <BluesKaj> ubuntu-fan001, in order to really try out kde you need to install kubuntu-desktop
[21:52] <sevenforall> bekks: It turned red, but it's still the old filenames in red
[21:52] <MattJCliffe> i just installed gnome3 desktop trying to get used to it
[21:52] <whoever_> hi all I am tring to mak a symlink from ln-s  /opt/eclipse/eclipse to /usr/bin/ and I keep getting an archive file in /usr/bin/ called eclipse. can someone assist
[21:52] <lilcyber> Okay thank you guntbert.  guntbert my nvidia card is overheating, and I got it down to 60C but it won't go down any farther.  I have the current nvidia card drivers
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, In gedit you can search for stuff with ctrl-f
[21:53] <rsolma> im just not sure why amazon is integrated
[21:53] <bassna> cant seem to find it again
[21:53] <ubuntu-fan001> BluesKaj, yes i try the kde desktop by installing kde-full and then after a 2 months i install kubuntu-desktop
[21:53] <rsolma> when i click the note symbol in hud
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> rsolma, Google canonical and amazon you wil probably get the basic answer
[21:54] <mspencer> guntbert: in launchpad, there are different versions for quantal and raring. quantal is 0.92.9 and raring is 0.92.11
[21:54] <guntbert> lilcyber: sorry, no experience with nvidia here  - but there are plenty helpers, if anyone knows an answer he will say so
[21:54] <rsolma> ok
[21:54] <lilcyber> Okay, thanks.
[21:54] <rsolma> so
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> bassna: if you open the .desktop file in gedit, you can see what is executed. Or run:  history   tosee the last commands you ran
[21:54] <rsolma> are you saying it not possible to remove lens in 12.04.1
[21:54] <rsolma> and only 12.10
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, Does that all make sense as far as editing the remove list?
[21:55] <adaminsull_> FATAL -> Failed to fork. 0%
[21:55] <bassna> dir:/usr/share/projectM/config.inp
[21:55] <bassna> reading ~/.projectM/config.inp
[21:55] <bassna> [projectM] config file: /home/bassna/.projectM/config.inp
[21:55] <bassna> No Textures Loaded from "/usr"/share/projectM/textures
[21:55] <bassna> Could not open font file: /usr/local/share/projectM/fonts/Vera.ttf
[21:55] <FloodBot1> bassna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:55] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, iam in gedit right now i let u know the result
[21:55] <bassna> my b
[21:56] <guntbert> mspencer: usually you'd work on the development version (raring) and eventually backport it to quantal
[21:56] <rsolma> also have some privacy questions
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, Cool, I have run into the same problem with full desktops installed, and just did it this way.
[21:56] <mspencer> guntbert: would I also backport the bug fix to precise?
[21:56] <greenit> hi, i have a problem: i upgraded from ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10, but now my wireless card doesn't work anymore... i have a ralink rt2800, in 12.04 it worked with the driver of ralink, to make and make install it, but with 12.10 this doesn't work anymore... can any1 help me plz?
[21:57] <rsolma> does cannonical respect your privacy?
[21:57] <rsolma> when you say you want it turned off
[21:57] <adaminsull_> ANy clue?
[21:57] <dr_willis> you want to turn off your privacy?
[21:57] <rsolma> do i?
[21:57] <edlik> thelinux: the computer is still working hard, nothing in displays yet
[21:57] <rsolma> i dont know
[21:58] <rsolma> is that what evrybody else does
[21:58] <guntbert> mspencer: I am not good with those processes, maybe (if noone here knows better) ask in #ubuntu-bugs
[21:58] <dr_willis> we dont know what you are asking rsolma...
[21:58] <rsolma> kk
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> greenit: do you have the kernel source for the kernel you are using?
[21:58] <rsolma> when i serch online
[21:58] <rsolma> or visit websites
[21:58] <savio> !imagebin
[21:58] <dr_willis> !enter | rsolma
[21:58] <greenit> ActionParsnip: erm.. i use the standard-kernel of ubuntu, from the repos
[21:58] <lilcyber> Is anyone informative in nvidia cards for ubuntu?
[21:58] <rsolma> ok
[21:59] <adaminsull> I need help with an error
[21:59] <mspencer> guntbert: thanks for your help!
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> greenit: yes, but you will need the kernel headers for that kernel
[21:59] <adaminsull> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
[21:59] <adaminsull>   what():  std::bad_alloc
[21:59] <guntbert> mspencer: thx for working on improving :)
[21:59] <savio> wilee-nilee, http://imagebin.org/234509 here is after the modification
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> lilcyber: in what way?
[22:00] <rsolma> when i serch online, i get advertisements, its like im being tracked, does cannonical track me and where i go?
[22:00] <bassna> actionparsnip http://pastebin.com/dD7CL9Q1
[22:00] <greenit> ActionParsnip: what would happen if they are not installed?
[22:00] <rsolma> i know google does
[22:00] <lilcyber> my nvidia card (geforce 9600GT) is at 60c and won't come down
[22:00] <dr_willis> !adlens
[22:00] <rsolma> what does cannonical send back
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> bassna: can you pm me the text, work locked down our web. Trying to work round it right now
[22:01] <nothingspecial> rsolma: read the "Legal Notice" on the bottom right of the dash
[22:01] <ubuntu-fan001>  wilee-nilee ,here is the erorr http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330373/
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> lilcyber: did you install the proprietary driver?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> lilcyber: do you use switchable graphics?
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> savio, Looks god except you have the swap as a sda7 that leaves you at the least having to remove that swap to do any resizing, and it will make all the partitions above it the sda8 revert to a sda7
[22:01] <greenit> ActionParsnip: nvm, they are installed^^
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> good*
[22:02] <lilcyber> Yes I did, and it doesn't give me the option do adjust the fan speed. Also What do you mean switchable graphics. Also I am  using two monitors. ActionParsnip
[22:02] <adaminsull> How do I fix this? http://pastebin.com/kHy02Nsa
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> lilcyber: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display     do you also see an intel GPU?
[22:02] <bassna> think i sent it?
[22:02] <lilcyber> Let me check ActionParsnip
[22:02] <savio> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330371/ here is fdisk output what about last line
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> greenit: ok, when you run the compile. What errors do you get?
[22:03] <defaultro> anyone familiar with netem
[22:03] <greenit> which compile? from the rt2800 module?
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, So just out of curiosity what did you run to remove anything before this. And is this the kubntu-desktop or kde exactly?
[22:03] <greenit> sry, forgot ActionParsnip ^^
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> greenit: yes, I thought that was the issue in hand....
[22:03] <lilcyber> ActionParsnip, I shall pm you what I get so it doesn't look like I am spamming.
[22:04] <gordonjcp> !pastebin | lilcyber
[22:04] <lilcyber> Okay thanks
[22:04] <guntbert> adaminsull: thats not enough information - give more details please
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> lilcyber: sure
[22:04] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, this sudo apt-get install -y ppa-purge
[22:04] <ubuntu-fan001> sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[22:04] <ubuntu-fan001> sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:04] <lilcyber> http://pastebin.com/HhYmNWbu
[22:04] <adaminsull> guntbert: Whenever I use apt -get I get that
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> lilcyber: I can't access pastebins here, locked down web sucks
[22:04] <lilcyber> Ah okay
[22:04] <greenit> ActionParsnip: nope, thats not the issue, i can load the module (it compiled without any errors), but the wireless card does not work as it did in 12.04... it sees the wireless network, but it can't connect to it.. 1 hr before it could (when 12.04 was on it)..
[22:04] <mspencer> how do I get an iso of the current development version? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ only shows amd64 versions.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> savio, fdsik list the partitions in numerical order, look closely at the start and stop end blocks
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> greenit: can you ping 8.8.8.8 over the wifi?
[22:05] <lilcyber> ActionParsnip, I pmd you
[22:05] <trism> mspencer: won't be isos yet
[22:05] <savio> wilee-nilee, yeah can i fixed that using x switch in advanced mode of fdisk
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> lilcyber: got :)
[22:05] <neure> how can i limit network usage?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> neure: in what sense?
[22:05] <neure> i'd need to limit net speed globally
[22:05] <adaminsull> guntbert: What now?
[22:05] <lilcyber> Awesome
[22:05] <neure> say dont exceed 100kbit/s
[22:06] <mspencer> then how do I test the development version of packages? in quantal?
[22:06] <savio> wilee-nilee sorry using f switch
[22:06] <guntbert> adaminsull: please pastebin the complete command and output
[22:06] <cnf> neure:  tc
[22:06] <bekks> mspencer: The safe way would be setting up a vm and upgrading quantal to 13.04
[22:07] <neure> tc? how do i use it?
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> savio, Cool, but you understand that at least with gparted you can't resize a partition below a one out of order on the disc
[22:07] <greenit> ActionParsnip: nope, i can't even connect to my network... and with 8.8.8.8 it says network unreachable
[22:07] <guntbert> mspencer: join #ubuntu+1
[22:07] <adaminsull> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/4hkUy1FL
[22:07] <mspencer> guntbert: thanks!
[22:07] <savio> wilee-nilee, gotcha
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> greenit: what interface do you get for the wifi?
[22:08] <greenit> ActionParsnip: ra0
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> savio, I would just remove the swap again, I , mentioned this already, and resize the sda5 into that  space. Then shrink the sda8 to the right and put the swap after it. you would be in numerical order then.
[22:08] <guntbert> adaminsull: we don't support having the root account enabled
[22:08] <guntbert> !sudo | adaminsull
[22:09] <adaminsull> So try with sudo?
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> savio, sorry resize the sd8 to the left for a unallocated for the swap.
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> greenit: hmmm, maybe you should make a udev rule to make it wlan0 which network manager seems to prefer
[22:09] <adaminsull> guntbert: Using sudo makes no difference?
[22:09] <guntbert> adaminsull: why did you enable the root account?
[22:09] <adaminsull> I dunno
[22:09] <guntbert> !root - adaminsull
[22:09] <guntbert> !root | adaminsull
[22:09] <greenit> ActionParsnip: well... it worked smoothly until today, when i decided to upgrade to 12.10^^
[22:09] <adaminsull> What should I do
[22:09] <StuckMojo> hi. how do you get rid of the resize grip in the bottom right corner of [terminal] windows in 12.10? .gtkrc-2.0 GtkWindow::resize-grip-height = 0 trick no longer works...
[22:10] <savio> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330391/ here is after i use expert option
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> greenit: yes, the upgrade is a huge change to the OS
[22:10] <adaminsull> guntbert: Ok so what do I do
[22:10] <adaminsull> I'm new to ubuntu
[22:10] <guntbert> adaminsull: the webpage you got told from ubottu tells you how to diable the roout account again
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> savio, Does fdisk have an option to change the disk numbers?
[22:12] <adaminsull> guntbert: Done
[22:12] <adaminsull> Now what?
[22:12] <rsolma> ok, the amazon lenses are gone
[22:12] <Linkandzelda__> Does anyone know how i can move the Unity launcher to the bottom of the screen?
[22:12] <savio> wilee-nilee, i use f option from expert command
[22:12] <guntbert> adaminsull: now try (and pastebin again)   sudo apt-get update
[22:12] <Matt_> Hello, I am seeking help from anyone who is willing.
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda__: there is a PPA (not sure what releases it supports) to move it. It is known to break things
[22:13] <guntbert> Guest97836: put your question to the channel
[22:13] <savio> Matt what happened
[22:13] <adaminsull> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/NbRgH55R
[22:13] <Linkandzelda__> ActionParsnip: what kind of things end up breaking?
[22:13] <rsolma> about the privacy settings, there all unchecked, my question was, when you uncheck/turn off privacy, do i still get tracked?
[22:14] <rsolma> by cannoical
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda__: omgubuntu had a doc on it, called something like: customize unity like never before     or something like that
[22:14] <antivirys> echo 1 >> '/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches'
[22:14] <rsolma> or do they respect that
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> savio, Cool I only use it for just checking the partition numbers and boot flags when needed.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda__: its listed on the page. The only way to move it is to change the code
[22:14] <Linkandzelda__> ActionParsnip: thanks, i'll see if i can do it without messing up stuff lol
[22:14] <adaminsull> guntbert: Now I can't ssh
[22:14] <savio> wilee-nilee, thanks for your help many many thanks
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> savio, No problem we both learned here. ;)
[22:15] <savio> wilee-nilee, yup :)
[22:15] <guntbert> adaminsull: I am searching
[22:15] <rsolma> thats what i dont understand
[22:15] <adaminsull> ok
[22:15] <JSF16> Matt here, had to change my username.
[22:15] <JSF16> 'pologies.
[22:16] <adaminsull> guntbert: Well I can ssh but not ftp
[22:16] <JSF16> Anyway, my problem is that my speakers will not work.
[22:16] <guntbert> adaminsull: you are still working as root
[22:16] <JSF16> They play the little drumming sound when ubuntu starts,
[22:16] <nothingspecial> rsolma: read the Legal Notice, there is an adress at the bottom that you can use to contact Canonical with any questions you have. You'd be better off doing that
[22:16] <JSF16> but nothing else.
[22:16] <rsolma> ok
[22:16] <adaminsull> I did "sudo passwd -dl root"
[22:16] <fantasmic> hi
[22:16] <rsolma> thats a good idea
[22:16] <JSF16> The sound is not muted or anything, and sound meters in Pulse Control show that sound is coming out
[22:17] <adaminsull> guntbert: ^
[22:17] <rsolma> do they reply
[22:17] <JSF16> But no sound actually comes out
[22:17] <nothingspecial> rsolma: try it
[22:17] <JSF16> Same with any plug-ins like headphones or speakers
[22:17] <rsolma> im just under the impression that ubuntu has now become like big brother
[22:17] <Shirakawasuna> rsolma: If you turn off the right lenses, ubuntu doesn't send your searches out, if that's what you're talking about.
[22:17] <JSF16> So, does anyone have any ideas as to what to do?
[22:17] <adaminsull> guntbert: no
[22:18] <rsolma> yes thats what i meant
[22:18] <guntbert> adaminsull: yes, I should have told you to exit the session, but -- are you running on a remote machine?
[22:18] <rsolma> i cant tell you how many times ive gotten adds for the things i serch for
[22:18] <Shirakawasuna> rsolma: My understanding is that you can turn that stuff off in preferences somewhere.
[22:18] <furian> JSF16, from a terminal run alsamixer and check that the default device is selected and that the sliders are turned up
[22:18] <rsolma> its errie
[22:18] <rsolma> yep
[22:18] <adaminsull> I'm using mac terminal to ssh to it which works
[22:18] <Shirakawasuna> rsolma: Yes, I don't like it at all either (I use xubuntu so it hasn't been an issue for me yet)
[22:18] <rsolma> but what i meant was
[22:18] <adaminsull> but ftp nope
[22:19] <rsolma> whe  you turn it off, is it really off
[22:19] <guntbert> adaminsull: what version of ubuntu are your running?
[22:19] <guntbert> !version | adaminsull
[22:19] <rsolma> im gonna ask
[22:19] <LordCrc> hi, i'm trying to preseed ubuntu, and i mostly got it working, but for some reason i just cant get the ubiquity/success_command working, it seems to not do anything at all... not even a simple "echo "foo" > /target/etc/foobar" any ideas on how i can find out why?
[22:19] <rsolma> cannonmical
[22:19] <JSF16> One moment,
[22:19] <JSF16> Alright.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> !shopping | rsolma
[22:20] <JSF16> I have turned all my sliders up
[22:20] <Shirakawasuna> rsolma: My understanding is that it is indeed off if you put that setting on. You might need to log out/in for it to properly take effect, I'm not sure.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> !amazon
[22:20] <JSF16> And I BELIEVE that the default sound card is selected
[22:20] <rsolma> oh ok
[22:20] <adaminsull> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/593Zp5Vc
[22:20] <rsolma> good
[22:20] <IdleOne> !adlens | rsolma ActionParsnip
[22:21] <JSF16> Negative on sound, the speakers still won't make a peep.
[22:21] <lilcyber> ActionParsnip, hey the gpu card is still around 60-65C
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: cheers
[22:21] <rsolma> yep i did remove all lenses
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: asking ubottu about it and she said: flight-of-the-amazon-queen    made me smile, old school
[22:21] <guntbert> adaminsull: the reason for my question was that the only cases of std::bad_alloc seem to be from 2007 :)
[22:22] <ubuntu-fan001> hey wilee-nilee , ijust autoremove --purge plasma-*
[22:22] <adaminsull> ok
[22:22] <rsolma> another question, in spotify
[22:22] <rsolma> oops
[22:22]  * ActionParsnip shows his age
[22:22] <adaminsull> guntbert: What now?
[22:22] <rsolma> dont use enter as pause
[22:22] <rsolma> forgot
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, Is that helping?
[22:23] <JSF16> Can any other courses of action be recommended?
[22:23] <guntbert> adaminsull: 1) lets make certain that you don't loose the conection - is this a remote server?
[22:23] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, i dont know yet,but it has long list about 1.247 mb will be free it says
[22:23] <adaminsull> I think
[22:23] <adaminsull> I use ssh to access it
[22:23] <adaminsull> guntbert:
[22:23] <rsolma> in spotify, the background is black due to the mediteranean dark theme
[22:23] <furian> JSF16, in sound what is your chosen sound device?
[22:23] <Linkandzelda__> guys quick, how do i launch the window manager from terminal? i just enabled "wobbly windows" and now i have no window borders or dock or menu bar, but i have a terminal open lol
[22:23] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, i dont know yet,but it has long list about 1247 mb will be free it says
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> yay web access :)
[22:24] <JSF16> Pardon, chosen sound service?
[22:24] <JSF16> Do you mean my sound card?
[22:25] <ubuntu-fan001> oh god what have i done
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, All I will say here is that pecking at it is not advised, if it were me I would see if you can get a full kubuntu-desktop install, then try the list
[22:25] <rsolma> in spotify the background is dark because of the mediterranean dark them i cant see the font when i type?
[22:25] <guntbert> adaminsull: so please start a 2nd ssh session, but with your normal user instead of root (I know that doesn't help against std::bad_alloc :-))
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> JSF16: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[22:25] <furian> in sound preferences do ou have more than one sound device to choose from?
[22:25] <rsolma> like windows, does ubuntu not work well with dark themes?
[22:25] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, how do u get full kubuntu-desktop???!!!
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> rsolma: the default theme is quite dark
[22:26] <adaminsull> guntbert:  can SSH not FTP
[22:26] <rsolma> actionparsnip: true
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> rsolma: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-gnomishdark-theme-on-ubuntu.html
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, Try this and see if you get any errors sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:26] <MattJCliffe> ubuntu-fan001 dont you just download the kubuntu iso
[22:26] <adaminsull> guntbert: ircd ftp works
[22:26] <adaminsull> not root
[22:27] <guntbert> adaminsull: so you have two ssh connections now? one as root and one as your user?
[22:27] <lilcyber> ActionParsnip, the temp is went up back to 65C
[22:27] <adaminsull> SSH yes but FTP just ircd
[22:27] <ubuntu-fan001> MattJCliffe, no i use unity and i installed kde-full package
[22:27] <JSF16> Oh....
[22:27] <StuckMojo> god damn it. none of the ways to get rid of these *stupid* resize grips work in 12.10.
[22:27] <JSF16> I, fixed it.
[22:27] <JSF16> Aaaand now feel like an idiot.
[22:28] <StuckMojo> this is really irritating
[22:28] <JSF16> Well thank you for your time.
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> lilcyber: all I can recommend is remove all nvidia packages (except nvidia-common) then reinstall nvidia-current then reboot
[22:28] <JSF16> Helped me find where to go
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> lilcyber: have you checked the cooling on the card
[22:28] <lilcyber> What do you mean by that ActionParsnip ?
[22:28] <JSF16> Sufficiently humilated now, I'll step out
[22:28] <JSF16> Have a good day
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> MattJCliffe, This a remove kubuntu exercise, stuff was removed ahead of time and a pckg list for removing everything is erring.
[22:28] <guntbert> adaminsull: I don't care about ftp just now! please once more (in the new connection) type   sudo apt-get update (and pastebin it )
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> lilcyber: what part is causing you confusion?
[22:29] <ubuntu-fan001> wilee-nilee, if it not working ,after that i try ur way
[22:29] <Jordan_U> Linkandzelda__: Try "unity --replace" and if that doesn't work then "unity --reset" (which will reset all compiz settings and restart unity).
[22:29] <lilcyber> The checking the cooling on the cARD
[22:29] <lilcyber> *Card
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-fan001, Hehe cool.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: hope they aren't using Quantal ;)
[22:29] <adaminsull> guntbert: ircd is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[22:29] <cosmo> hey, anyone wanna give a linux noob a hand?
[22:29] <gordonjcp> !ask | cosmo
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> lilcyber: there will be a cooling solution on the card, check it is clear of fluff and junk
[22:29] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: Why? (if they shouldn't run either of those commands please warn them).
[22:30] <lilcyber> Meaning the thermal paste?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: --reset is deprecated in Quantal afaik
[22:31] <ubuntu-fan001> hey another question i have i installed ubuntu 12.10 on the other machine i have trouble with the /boot
[22:31] <cosmo> oh. kay, well i'm trying to use terminal to install a program, following the install instructions i have to use ./configure, but once i do it tells me it is unable to find the qmake tool for Qt 4
[22:31] <ubuntu-fan001> i have /boot partition separate from the /
[22:31] <guntbert> adaminsull: what is that remote system? A VPS?
[22:31] <adaminsull> yea
[22:32] <cosmo> !patience
[22:32] <ubuntu-fan001> and when i wanted the grub be on that partition(/boot)
[22:33] <adaminsull> guntbert: Yes
[22:33] <ubuntu-fan001> it gave me the minigrub4dos
[22:33] <guntbert> adaminsull: you might have said so in the beginning - please use the "root" connection to reenable the root password
[22:33] <ubuntu-fan001> and wont boot
[22:34] <adaminsull> guntbert: So enable what I disabled?
[22:35] <guntbert> adaminsull: yes, many vps come configured differently, and I don't want to change that right now
[22:36] <adaminsull> guntbert: Done
[22:36] <adaminsull> Now what?
[22:36] <gordonjcp> cosmo: sounds like you haven't got all the dependencies installed
[22:36] <gordonjcp> cosmo: what are you trying to build?
[22:37] <cosmo> i'm trying to install qbittorrent, but i think i just figured it out
[22:37] <guntbert> adaminsull: the obvious reason for your apt-get problem seems to be "not enough memory", what are the specs of your system? do you run any "big" programs?
[22:37] <cosmo> i did a sudo -apt get thing for Qt4
[22:38] <rsolma> actionparsnip:awsome site
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> rsolma: what is?
[22:38] <rsolma> noobslabs
[22:38] <rsolma> the theme site
[22:38] <adaminsull> guntbert: MY RAM HAS BEEN SWOLLOWED
[22:38] <gordonjcp> cosmo: you probably want some dev packages too
[22:38] <cosmo> yeah, ran ./configure again and got a new reason for not working: There was an error compiling 'conf'.  See conf.log for details.
[22:39] <gordonjcp> cosmo: qbittorrent is packaged for 12.04 at least
[22:39] <Linkandzelda> Jordan_U: after running that command I lost keyboard input, and it didnt solve the problem. so i force restarted and now i'm back in
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> rsolma: i just searched and it came up. Never seen it before personally
[22:39] <gordonjcp> cosmo: why are you building from source?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> rsolma: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dark+theme+ubuntu+12.10&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7AURU_enGB505&redir_esc=&ei=CZqVUK2tH4nG0QWJiYH4Ag    and it came up
[22:39] <Jordan_U> Linkandzelda: You could have gotten to a terminal via ctrl+alt+F1, for future reference.
[22:39] <rsolma> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-gnomishdark-theme-on-ubuntu.html
[22:39] <cosmo> gordonjcp, it's a specific version i need (3.0.6), because a torrent site i want to use has the pre-installed qbittorrent version blacklisted >_<
[22:39] <adaminsull> guntbert: ok so how can I remove mysql
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> rsolma: nothing the average internet user cannot do
[22:40] <Linkandzelda> Jordan_U: how can I press those keys without keyboard input?
[22:40] <rsolma> your being modest:
[22:40] <rsolma> well thanx though
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[22:40] <Jordan_U> Linkandzelda: You probably did have keyboard input, just no window in X was active to recieve it.
[22:40] <guntbert> adaminsull: please pastebin the output of  free -m
[22:41] <PotentChili> how do i make my site work as a unity 12.10 web app?
[22:41] <adaminsull> I only have 9MB free so something has eaten it
[22:41] <Linkandzelda> Jordan_U: possibly, though I tried some shortcuts and got no response. I'll remember it for the future though, cheers
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Linkandzelda: Also, sysrq goes directly to the kernel if you are really stuck.
[22:42] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | Linkandzelda
[22:42] <adaminsull> guntbert: How do I delete some stuff?
[22:42] <Linkandzelda> Jordan_U: thats cool, but not if i dont even have a print screen button on this mac haha
[22:43] <guntbert> adaminsull: please calm down, see http://www.linuxatemyram.com/, and show me the output of  free -m
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> adaminsull: if you have RAM, why not use it? The OS uses RAM as disk cache to speed up the OS
[22:44] <adaminsull> ActionParsnip: I want to add stuff and 300MB has gone
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> adaminsull: if you run:  free -m   the second line left most number is the REAL used RAM by apps, the rest is cache
[22:44] <adaminsull> http://pastebin.com/3kbmRKCd
[22:44] <cnf> free ram is wasted ram
[22:45] <thelinux> edlik: Did you solve your problem?
[22:46] <adaminsull> ActionParsnip: HELP
[22:46] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: he actually *has* a RAM problem, he gets std::bad_alloc when running apt-get
[22:46] <adaminsull> guntbert: It's because something ate 300MB
[22:46] <adaminsull> how do I remove some stuff
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: gotcha
[22:47] <cnf> why don't you have swap?
[22:47] <adaminsull> I dunno yet
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> adaminsull: have you tested the RAM using memtest from Grub?
[22:47] <guntbert> adaminsull: removing stuff will not help, your problem is there is no swap
[22:47] <adaminsull> Can u just tell me how I delete stuff
[22:47] <adaminsull> guntbert: but what happened to my 300MB?
[22:48] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: its a VPS, with root account enabled
[22:48] <adaminsull> ActionParsnip: No
[22:48] <guntbert> adaminsull: they are still there
[22:48] <adaminsull> guntbert: Then where are they
[22:48] <adaminsull> It was free before
[22:49] <cnf> adaminsull:  why do you not have swap?
[22:49] <adaminsull> cnf: I don't know
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> adaminsull: sounds like you need a s,arthands to get it checked
[22:49] <adaminsull> whut
[22:49] <cnf> adaminsull:  so find out!
[22:49] <adaminsull> cnf: How
[22:50] <adaminsull> I don't know ubuntu much
[22:50] <cnf> o,O
[22:50] <cnf> adaminsull:  you don't know much about linux, do you?
[22:50] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: may I invite you to step in? time's running out here :)
[22:50] <DenverDave> greetings.. I was on a while back and got some help with my middle mouse button not scrolling in FF
[22:50] <adaminsull> No
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> adaminsull: vps installs seem to have all kinds of weirdness about them, had a guy in and all kinds of files were not setUID'd. real mess
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: tag out bro!
[22:50] <adaminsull> ActionParsnip: Was ok before
[22:51] <DenverDave> I thought I had mentioned I was on virtualbox. . found the answer: go to Machine and Disable Mouse Integration and Bingo!!
[22:51] <guntbert> adaminsull: I have to leave you to the knowledgable ActionParsnip - bedtime here - Good luck!
[22:51] <adaminsull> guntbert: ok
[22:52] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[22:52] <ElixirVitae> I have no questions whatsoever, just wanted to say hi.
[22:53] <adaminsull> WHAT 177MB MYSQL
[22:53] <bekks> adaminsull: Why is that critical?
[22:53] <adaminsull> bekks: I need my ram back
[22:53] <bekks> adaminsull: Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
[22:54] <cnf> that's what i said
[22:54] <MattJCliffe> adaminsull : go get it
[22:54] <adaminsull> bekks: Yes but I need unused so I can install what I want
[22:54] <adaminsull> MattJCliffe: How
[22:54] <adaminsull> it's just gone
[22:54] <cnf> adaminsull:  go find out why you have no swap
[22:54] <MattJCliffe> adaminsull: are you sure its not in your pocket
[22:54] <bekks> adaminsull: You can install whatever you want. With the free RAM you currently have.
[22:54] <adaminsull> Sure
[22:55] <adaminsull> bekks:  Not with 8MB
[22:55] <OerHeks> adaminsull, ram as in memory or hdd space?
[22:55] <adaminsull> OerHeks: Memory
[22:55] <cnf> ram <> hdd space? o,O
[22:55] <bekks> adaminsull: So pastebin the output of free -m please, to a pastebin.
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> adaminsull: is that to install or running in RAM?
[22:55] <bekks> adaminsull: I BET you have more than 8MB RAM free.
[22:55] <adaminsull> ActionParsnip: What
[22:55] <OerHeks> cnf, i read 'install something' so i just wondered
[22:55] <adaminsull> bekks: 9
[22:56] <MattJCliffe> Finally just got eve online working in ubuntu /cheer
[22:56] <Linkandzelda> so I have a choice of a propriety graphics driver, should I use it or not? which is likely to be the safest option?
[22:56] <ryann> is anyone familiar with ways to further customize a thinkpad trackpad (synaptics) in ubuntu?  In windows, there are a ton of options.  In linux, it's quite wonky.  I'm looking for features like palm detection and finger sensitivity.
[22:56] <gordonjcp> cosmo: have you tried "sudo apt-get build-dep qbittorrent" ?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> adaminsull: Is the 177Mb the used RAM for the process or is it the data amount to download and install mysql?
[22:56] <MattJCliffe> Linkandzelda: use it
[22:56] <tassmjau> hey, does anyone know how to make the wifi-experience on 12.10 on a macbook air less painful than what the "out of the box" setup offers..?
[22:56] <gordonjcp> cosmo: that'll grab all the build dependencies for the packaged version
[22:56] <adaminsull> ActionParsnip: the tar.gz file
[22:56] <gordonjcp> cosmo: that may not be exactly right but it'll be close enough for a start
[22:56] <bekks> adaminsull: Thats not the output of "free -m".
[22:56] <adaminsull> but i'll try deleting mysql for now
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> adaminsull: quite small.
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> !info mysql
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> !info mysql-server
[22:56] <bekks> adaminsull: Do not delete anything. Just STOP the mysql service.
[22:56] <cnf> tassmjau:  yeah, run osx on it
[22:57] <cnf> adaminsull:  deleting?
[22:57] <adaminsull> bekks: hhow
[22:57] <bekks> adaminsull: sudo service mysqld stop
[22:57] <MattJCliffe> tassmjau : I heard that there was a distro u could download ubuntu 12.04 that was taylored to mac harware (keyboards and wifi drivers etc)
[22:57] <tassmjau> MattJCliffe: oh, cool...
[22:57] <adaminsull> bekks: http://pastie.org/5178680
[22:57] <alabala> hello,is there a way to ubuntu 12.10 the clock add weather icon ..
[22:57] <systematical> trying to route requests on eth0 to use wlan1 as gateway
[22:58] <cnf> adaminsull:  what are you doing messing with something you don't understand, though?
[22:58] <cnf> adaminsull:  what are you even trying to accomplish?
[22:58] <adaminsull> cnf: Well I want to install phpbb
[22:58] <systematical> cant get this added to kernal routes, get a SIOCADDRT: No such process
[22:58] <adaminsull> But this has lost ram so apt-get is causing errors
[22:58] <xangua> !info indicator-weather | alabala
[22:58] <newbchessplayer> is it possible to create a live DVD on a DVD-RW medium? would it be possible to edit it later to add updates?
[22:58] <cnf> adaminsull:  there is no such thing as "lost ram"
[22:58] <alabala> xangua, thanks
[22:59] <xangua> newbchessplayer: or you could use a usb
[22:59] <adaminsull> cnf: Then why is it used 300MB doing nothing?
[22:59] <cnf> i bet it's doing something
[22:59] <bekks> adaminsull: Provide the output of "ps -aux" please in a pastebin.
[22:59] <cnf> and what i can't do is swap out
[22:59] <cnf> because you have no swap
[22:59] <newbchessplayer> xangua, i dont want to use a usb because it's impossible to permanently insert malware into a dvd-rw
[23:00] <cnf> newbchessplayer:  dvd's are cheap, just make a new one
[23:00] <xangua> malware right...
[23:00] <adaminsull> bekks: http://pastie.org/5178690
[23:00] <cnf> newbchessplayer:  or just get a usb stick with a read only switch
[23:00] <rephy222> what causes someones internet to lagg??
[23:00] <adaminsull> I wanna delete mysql for now anyway
[23:00] <newbchessplayer> cnf where are those??
[23:00] <newbchessplayer> nvm ill google
[23:01] <bekks> adaminsull: Do you need mysql and apache?
[23:01] <MattJCliffe> adaminsull If i was you id go for a fresh install your apt-get problems seam to come from corrupt point files
[23:01] <OerHeks> rephy222, laggy internet sometimes cleares afer restart browser.
[23:01] <adaminsull> bekks: Yes but not yet
[23:01] <bekks> MattJCliffe: Thats totally not the problem he is having ;)
[23:01] <rephy222> tried that
[23:01] <bekks> adaminsull: Then stop those services.
[23:01] <adaminsull> How
[23:01] <Shirakawasuna> rephy222: Depends on where it's lagging. Might be a crappy dns
[23:01] <adaminsull> I wanna delete them for now as they are useless
[23:02] <cnf> adaminsull:  i think you should not be using a VPS
[23:02] <adaminsull> cnf: I should
[23:02] <cnf> adaminsull:  unless you want to invest quite some time learning linux
[23:02] <adaminsull> bekks: How do I just delete then
[23:02] <rephy222> thats what im thinking
[23:02] <rephy222> i tried installing a dnsproxy and i think it messed something up
[23:02] <bekks> adaminsull: You dont want to delete them. You want to just stop them working.
[23:03] <adaminsull> bekks:
[23:03] <adaminsull> Ok
[23:03] <cnf> adaminsull:  no, you really shouldn't, it requires at least some knowledge to manage one. knowledge isn't aquired overnight
[23:03] <adaminsull> then how
[23:03] <adaminsull> cnf:  I'm normally ok
[23:03] <burtonium> what happens when i do ufw enable? does my computer starts to block all connections?
[23:03] <bekks> adaminsull: service mysqld stop ...
[23:03] <bekks> adaminsull: using sudo.
[23:03] <cnf> adaminsull:  doesn't seem that way
[23:03] <rephy222> any to fix it
[23:03] <rephy222> any way to fix it
[23:03] <MattJCliffe> bekks: apt-get gives errors that point towards a corrupt /var/lib/dpkg/status file dont they ?
[23:03] <adaminsull> bekks: mysqld: unrecognized service
[23:04] <bekks> adaminsull: Then use mysql instead mysqld
[23:04] <adaminsull> WHAT THE HECK
[23:04] <adaminsull> That used all my ram up
[23:04] <bekks> adaminsull: Using ALL your RAM is totally OK.
[23:04] <adaminsull> mysql I mean
[23:05]  * cnf facepalms
[23:05] <bekks> adaminsull: Then stop that service.
[23:05] <adaminsull> I did
[23:05] <bekks> adaminsull: Now run free -m again.
[23:05] <adaminsull> used 163
[23:05] <DenverDave> Thanks to this cool channel.. :)
[23:05] <DenverDave> l8r
[23:05] <adaminsull> it's working now
[23:05] <adaminsull> bekks: How do I install anope services?
[23:06] <bekks> adaminsull: So you now have plenty of unused, wasted RAM. Congratulations. :)
[23:06] <bekks> adaminsull: Whats "anope?
[23:06] <adaminsull> irc services
[23:06] <bekks> Never heard of that.
[23:06] <adaminsull> ok
[23:06] <rephy222> it seems like i connect for  a while then i lagg out and dissconnect
[23:06] <rephy222> doesnt make sense
[23:06] <bekks> adaminsull: You should not install IRC services unless you are pretty comfortable with the OS you are running those services on.
[23:07] <adaminsull> bekks: It's ok as I know how it works when it's up
[23:07] <cosmo> that seems to have done the trick gordonjcp, thanks
[23:07] <bekks> adaminsull: You have been warned. :)
[23:08] <adaminsull> lol
[23:08]  * cnf facepalms again
[23:09] <adaminsull> bekks: How do I run mysql so I can check something?
[23:09] <bekks> cnf: It's dead, Jim. Let him go. ;)
[23:09] <cnf> no kidding
[23:09] <bekks> adaminsull: I just told you how to stop it (the "stop" thing) - replace that with "start" to start the service again.
[23:09] <gustav__> Why do you constantly dumb down on people?
[23:09] <adaminsull> ok
[23:10] <adaminsull> na it used it all up
[23:10] <adaminsull> bekks: Can I install phpbb without mysql?
[23:10] <cnf> i don't think you understand how ram works
[23:10] <cnf> or how a computer works
[23:10] <adaminsull> I do
[23:10] <bekks> adaminsull: I never used phpbb for the known security concerns of that software.
[23:11] <cnf> adaminsull: you have so far demonstrated that you really don't
[23:11] <adaminsull> ok
[23:11] <adaminsull> cnf: Because I don't know ubuntu
[23:11] <cnf> adaminsull: you don't know linux
[23:11] <adaminsull> cnf: true
[23:11] <adaminsull> bekks: Can I uninstall mysql and attemp a reinstall at a later date?
[23:11] <adaminsull> attempt
[23:12] <bekks> adaminsull: You dont have to DELETE it. STOP the service and you'll be fine.
[23:12]  * cnf face palms again
[23:12] <adaminsull> But I need it for phpbb
[23:12] <cnf> adaminsull: you don't even listen to what people tell you
[23:12] <gustav__> How can I list installed packages on size?
[23:12] <adaminsull> cnf: Yes but I need it
[23:12] <bekks> adaminsull: So if you need it - why do you want to delete it?
[23:12] <adaminsull> bekks: because it's mucked up
[23:13] <cnf> adaminsull: you don't pay ANY attention, do you?
[23:13] <adaminsull> Then it can we reinstalled
[23:13] <adaminsull> cnf: YES
[23:13] <cnf> adaminsull: NO
[23:13] <bekks> adaminsull: It is NORMAL, not mocked up.
[23:13] <adaminsull> lol
[23:13] <bekks> adaminsull: mysql needs some RAM, believe it or not.
[23:13] <adaminsull> bekks: 300MB of it?
[23:13] <adaminsull> 350*
[23:13] <bekks> adaminsull: Thats pretty low, to be honest.
[23:13] <cnf> depends on your settings
[23:13] <adaminsull> JEz
[23:14] <cnf> adaminsull: and YOUR SWAP!
[23:14] <bekks> adaminsull: I am running DB servers using about 240GB RAM. So 350M is not much.
[23:14] <adaminsull> What about it
[23:14] <OerHeks> gustav__, from small to bi >> dpkg-query -Wf '${Installed-Size}\t${Package}\n' | sort -n
[23:14] <OerHeks> c/bi/big
[23:15] <OerHeks> !rootirc | root____5
[23:15] <gustav__> OerHeks: How can I get stuff _really_ deleted? Purge doesn't seem to do it. With apt-get I mean.
[23:15] <gustav__> Or does it?
[23:16] <rephy222> try apt-get remove
[23:16] <gustav__> That's weaker.
[23:16] <cnf> 340mb girt, and 40mb reserved for my mysql instance
[23:16] <cornell> I've just upgraded to ubuntu 12.04, and am using  Gnome Classic.  Seems that windows tend to pop around...  When I shift a browser window halfway to another workspace (so I can still see the desired info, and have full view another window), and then switch to another window, the first window pops back to be fully displayed on the one workspace.  I also have at least one window (kpatience) that tends to pop to the bottom of the workspac
[23:16] <rephy222> well purge should get rid of everything
[23:16] <Jarvix_> hi
[23:16] <cnf> virt*
[23:17] <OerHeks> gustav__, apt-get remove --purge ?
[23:17] <rephy222> then just remove the dir thats left over
[23:17] <Jarvix_> Is this the right channel to get help for php5-curl installing? THere doesnt seem to be a #php...
[23:17] <whoever_> can I get some assistance ? I am trying to make sym link from /opt/Vuescan/vuescan to /usr/bin and it is ending up as an archive
[23:17] <rephy222> apt-get autoremove might work also
[23:17] <gustav__> Purge did it. Must've been looking at remove before.
[23:18] <guilherme> hi
[23:18] <pngl> Hi, I just rebooted and my numeric keypad stopped working. Most of the help I find online mentions older versions of Ubuntu. I run Gnome Classic.
[23:18] <fdijk> Is there a right channel to learn how to reverse engineering
[23:21] <pngl> More information:  I use 12.04. I upgraded recently, but it worked until a few hours ago. I did not notice the problem immediately, so I do not know what triggered it.
[23:21] <fdijk> Is there a right channel to learn how to reverse engineering
[23:22] <pepee> fdijk, try ##re
[23:22] <Linkandzelda> guys, with the desktop cube where do i go in compiz config to set the keyboard bindings to move desktop lect/right/up/down?
[23:22] <pngl> [solved] I unchecked "mouse keys" in the universal access settings panel. Sorry for being too quick to ask here.
[23:22] <Starstuff> hello
[23:23] <pepee> hi Starstuff
[23:23] <MattJCliffe> hayta
[23:23] <MattJCliffe> haya*
[23:23] <Krywk> Uhm... Hello.
[23:23] <Krywk> I'm having kind of a problem here on Ubuntu 11.10.
[23:23] <Linkandzelda> nvm, got it
[23:24] <MattJCliffe> Krywk whats that
[23:24] <Krywk> I wanna do some screencasting with video and audio. Also, no lags, and with desktop audio AND mic. I tried ffmpeg but it only records my mic.
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Krywk: wassup?
[23:24] <Krywk> ffmpeg seems really perfect, I get no lags at all. But the problem is I want to record both system audio and the mic.
[23:26] <Krywk> Whoops, sorry.
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Krywk: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/tag/kazam/
[23:26] <Krywk> I tried it. I get lots of lags.
[23:27] <MattJCliffe> Krywk: xsplit ?
[23:27] <Krywk> Tried it too. It also lags. :/
[23:27] <MattJCliffe> even with settings modified
[23:27] <Krywk> I've tried recordmydesktop and its GTK, too. I doesn't work.
[23:27] <Krywk> :/
[23:27] <MattJCliffe> xsplit seams good because u can really tune the quality
[23:27] <Krywk> Huh.
[23:28] <Krywk> Where do I get it? I forgot.
[23:28] <Krywk> is it this one?
[23:28] <Krywk> http://www.xsplit.com/get/
[23:28] <MattJCliffe> ah apparantly ur right its really choppy on linux
[23:28] <MattJCliffe> some virtualisation stuff
[23:29] <Krywk> My only problem is recording system sound.
[23:29] <Krywk> Here's my FFMPEG command:
[23:29] <Krywk> ffmpeg -f alsa -i pulse -f x11grab -r 30 -s 1600x900 -i :0.0 -vcodec libx264 -preset ultrafast -threads 4 -y -qscale 0 vidcast.mkv
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Krywk: you may need another command to capture sound then mesh the 2 with some video editting software. Or you can go to youtube where people record sound and video to see how they achieve their results
[23:30] <MattJCliffe> sounds silly but have u tried skype ?
[23:30] <Krywk> I've tried the youtube one.
[23:30] <gordonjcp> sudo rm -rf /usr/share/sounds
[23:30] <Krywk> Uhh, Skype?
[23:30] <gordonjcp> bah, mistab
[23:30] <gordonjcp> disregard
[23:30] <MattJCliffe> u can tell it to use ur video driver as the webcam
[23:30] <Krywk> nice try gordonjcp.
[23:30] <pepee> Krywk, can you specify an input device in ffmpeg?
[23:31] <gordonjcp> Krywk: works better in the right window
[23:31] <pepee> there is a command line tool called arecord, I've never used it but I suppose it could be useful
[23:31] <Krywk> MattJCliffe, I need just to record system sound. Video works fine.
[23:31] <Krywk> arecord? Gonna check it out.
[23:31] <remu> Hey Folks, I'm running an Ubuntu 12.04 server which shares files using Samba. I was able to access the files with out a problem before from Windows 7/8, but I ran into issues with my router. After setting my router back up, I can no longer access the shares. I am able to ping the machine, reach it's DLNA server, ssh into it, but I can't seem to access the samba shares.
[23:32] <MattJCliffe> would be nice if one prog did it all but yea there is a good walkthroiugh to recording with skype on the ubuntu wiki#
[23:32] <Krywk> well that's just sound.
[23:32] <Krywk> I'm pretty sure that if I play with the FFMPEG settings I can get them both.
[23:32] <Krywk> Or with the pavucontrol settings.
[23:33] <usr13> remu: I would suppose it is a software issue on one end or the other.
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> remu: tried restarting the samba service?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> remu: if you have SSH installed, you have an SFTP server too :)
[23:33] <gordonjcp> Krywk: what are you trying to do?
[23:33] <Krywk> Record mic and system sound with video on Ubuntu 11.10.
[23:34] <Krywk> I've managed to record all but system sound.
[23:34] <cosmo> gordonjcp, i hit another snag. ./configure worked, but when i input "make && make install" as per the install instructions i get a wall of text, and typing the program name doesn't start it.
[23:34] <remu> I've tried restarting the samba service as well as the computer itself.
[23:34] <gordonjcp> cosmo: well, does this "wall of text" include any error messages?
[23:34] <remu> My wife just checked, and she can access the server from her Macbook, so looks like the issue is probably with my Windows 8 instance.
[23:34] <cosmo> none that i can figure out, want me to copy+paste it to you?
[23:35] <gordonjcp> cosmo: yeah, might as well
[23:35] <Krywk> Well one thing's for sure, if you compile anything and run into any errors, it'll get interrupted, finishing with make[x] *** Error x
[23:35] <gordonjcp> cosmo: pastebin please
[23:35] <lilcyber> ActionParsnip, I tried everything and the temp will not go down on the graphics card.
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> remu: have you tried mapping a drive to the share
[23:35] <drag0nius> how would i merge 2 ordereddicts recursively?
[23:36] <drag0nius> .update seems to work only at 1 depth
[23:36] <cosmo> pastebin.com/DVYaNtSX
[23:36] <drag0nius> wops not here xD
[23:36] <Krywk> Well uh
[23:36] <Krywk> any suggestions?
[23:37] <remu> mapping the drive doesnt work either...
[23:38] <usr13> remu: Could have something to do with WINS Name Registration and Resolution, maybe?
[23:38] <paulsomebody> I have installed "kubuntu-desktop" to make KDE available on my Ubuntu OS, this have made all GTK+ applications mimic QT look, even when they are launched from Unity.
[23:38] <Krywk> Okay
[23:38] <Krywk> I managed to record system audio
[23:38] <paulsomebody> How can I restore status quo?
[23:38] <Krywk> but now my mic does not record
[23:38] <cosmo> looks like it's trying to create a directory but can't, but i don't know
[23:38] <usr13> remu: Is your samba server on a static IP?
[23:39] <edlik> thelinux: still nothing. maybe I did it wrong but after the download I clicked on the file and it ran gedit for a long time but nothing seamed to happen afterwords
[23:39] <remu> usr13, yes, it is on a static IP.
[23:39] <usr13> ok
[23:39] <remu> usr13, I don't think it would have anything to do with the wins resolution, since I can't reach it with IP either.
[23:39] <remu> for the shares that is.
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> remu: I'd try mapping a network drive, it can help
[23:40] <gustav__> paulsomebody: gtk-chtheme
[23:41] <remu> ActionParsnip, can't seem to map the drive either...
[23:41] <usr13> remu: Check samba logs?
[23:41] <paulsomebody> gustav__: Thanks. Is there a way to restore splash screens back to what they were before I installed KDE?
[23:43]  * chaospsychex stumbles in...
[23:43] <thelinux> edlik: Try to do fresh install.
[23:43] <chaospsychex> ahoy!
[23:43] <Medjai> I'm having an issue dual booting into windows due to this error from grub. "error: efi file not found". I used boot repair and this was the pastebin that it posted ->>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1326418/
[23:43] <remu> usr13, Logs show: No protocol supported!
[23:43] <Medjai> Does anyone have experience with EFI partitions?
[23:44] <usr13> remu: aaahhh.   tcpdump -v -s 255 -i ethX   maybe?
[23:44] <edlik> thelinux: thanks for your help. fresh install here I come:(
[23:44] <chaospsychex> !ubottu
[23:44] <Krywk> Okay
[23:44] <blackshirt> !uefi
[23:44] <Krywk> I figured out what's wrong
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> Medjai,  Have you perchance started a thread at the ubuntu forums?
[23:45] <paulsomebody> Can KDE and Unity desktop co-exist peacefully without ruining each others settings under one user account?
[23:45] <Medjai> no I haven't wilee-nilee
[23:45] <Krywk> in pavucontrol, you only get to choose ONE input device
[23:45] <blackshirt> !efi
[23:45] <Krywk> How do I choose both?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> remu: have you configured any firewalling on the server?
[23:45] <remu> ActionParsnip, no I haven't. Like I said this had been working fine in the past.
[23:45] <Medjai> I'm very new to this and have never had to do this before so this is why things are so odd for me
[23:45] <Krywk> Heeeeelp, please? D:
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> Medjai, I would there a number of daily users that can help, if you are not successful here. Daily weekdays anyway.
[23:46] <Krywk> I'm really excited to make my own Playthroughs, but I can't do so with this difficulty
[23:46] <chaospsychex> Krywk: what is the issue ?
[23:46] <Medjai> Ok, thanks for the heads up wilee-nilee .
[23:46] <thelinux> edlik: Will you be tomorrow here too? So I can see if that will work and help out till you solve your problem.
[23:46] <Medjai> blackshirt, do you have experience with this?
[23:46] <Krywk> in ffmpeg, I can record mic but not system audio, or vice-versa. This is a problem with pavucontrol.
[23:46] <Krywk> How do I enable both?
[23:47] <Medjai> I do seem to have grub efi installed
[23:47] <chaospsychex> Krywk: have you tried 'alsa-mixer' ?
[23:47] <Krywk> You know the 'tick' there is on pavucontrol on 'Input devices' under 'All input devices'?
[23:48] <chaospsychex> Krywk: what about it...
[23:48] <Krywk> Well, I can select only one of them.
[23:48] <Krywk> Which is my problem.
[23:48] <Krywk> I select one, the other gets de-selected.
[23:48] <chaospsychex> alsa-mixer
[23:48] <Krywk> I select the other, the one gets de-selected.
[23:48] <Krywk> Uh-huh, what do I do in it?
[23:48] <paulsomebody> gustav__: Thanks, this have solved my issue.
[23:48] <chaospsychex> first 'man alsa-mixer'
[23:48] <chaospsychex> then 'alsa-mixer'
[23:49] <gustav__> paulsomebody: Good stuff.
[23:49] <Krywk> I'm on alsa-mixer. I can't see 'Internal Audio' here.
[23:49] <Krywk> The only important thing I see is Rear Mic.
[23:49] <chaospsychex> man alsa-mixer
[23:49] <gustav__> paulsomebody: Not sure about the splash screens. I've never installed KDE in ubuntu.
[23:50] <paulsomebody> gustav__: Okay. There must be an app for that too, I'll look for it.
[23:50] <paulsomebody> However, can KDE and Unity desktop co-exist peacefully without ruining each others settings under one user account?
[23:50] <yeats> paulsomebody: yes
[23:50] <Linkandzelda> so is there a replacement for the "compiz-fusion-plugins-extra" package? I cant seem to find the gears plugin in my compiz on 12.10
[23:50] <remu> usr13, heres the relevent tcpdump I ran the command you asked for and piped it to grep draga. draga is my laptops name, and myst is the server name.
[23:50] <remu> http://pastebin.com/WUkDcfqe
[23:51] <paulsomebody> I understand that by settings GTK+ settings to normal, I have made all GTK+ apps look bad in KDE, and vice versa. Is this always tru?
[23:51] <gustav__> GTK can be configured individually, as you've seen. I'd say it's messy at best.
[23:51] <OerHeks> paulsomebody, The splash screen is selected via " update-alternatives "
[23:51] <paulsomebody> OerHeks: Okay, I'll give it a try.
[23:51] <yeats> paulsomebody: yeah - its hard to make each look good in the other environment :-/
[23:52] <chaospsychex> kde problem ?
[23:52] <paulsomebody> yeats: Okay, I get it. Is there no way to configure startup apps for each DE individually as well?
[23:52] <chaospsychex> ofcourse there is
[23:53] <paulsomebody> chaospsychex: Would be thrilled to hear about it.
[23:53] <Krywk> chaospsychex, what am I supposed to look for in man alsamixer?
[23:53] <yeats> paulsomebody: yeah, but it's been a while since I lived in KDE so I don't remember specifics
[23:53] <paulsomebody> yeats: Okay, no pressure.
[23:54] <chaospsychex> Krywk: the purple elephant, obviously
[23:54] <Krywk> I've seen the -V option with playback and capture. The only thing I'm seeing that's important is the Record and Record 1. Record was set to Line, my options are Line, Front Mic or Rear Mic.
[23:54] <Krywk> Nothing that shows me we're ready to record system sound.
[23:54] <JimmyNeutron> I'm installing Ubuntu 12.10 x64 onto my laptop and have 3 partitions: /dev/sda1 - ext4, /dev/sda2 - swapfs, /dev/sda3 - ntfs.  Ubuntu does not see any of my partitions.  However, if I use sudo fdisk /dev/sda, I can see all 3 partitions.  How come Ubuntu can't see my partitions from the installation GUI?
[23:55] <Krywk> Also that wasn't funny. Try harder ;)
[23:55] <chaospsychex> Krywk: lol
[23:55] <paulsomebody> Okay, I got it. Splash screen manager is actually Synaptic.
[23:55] <paulsomebody> My hat's off to usability experts at Canonical.
[23:56] <Krywk> Okay, so what am I looking for in manpage, chaospsychex?
[23:56] <chaospsychex> Krywk: you want to capture audio from your mic and from system sounds right ?
[23:56] <Krywk> Yes.
[23:57] <chaospsychex> what application are you attempting to do that with? making a tutorial video ?
[23:57] <Krywk> Uh, I'm using ffmpeg. And no, it's for making playthroughs.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> JimmyNeutron: have you fsck'fd the partitions?
[23:58] <Krywk> Why is my reasons to use it relevant?
[23:58] <Krywk> are*
[23:58] <burdickjp> I recently upgraded from kubuntu active 12.04 to 12.10 now on boot I get an otherwise blank screen with 'plymouthd: ply-terminal.c:611: ply_terminal_open: Assertion `terminal != ((void *)0)' failed. at the top
[23:59] <chaospsychex> Krywk: playthroughs of what? snes game ?
[23:59] <JimmyNeutron> ActionParsnip: Do I need to run a fsck on the partitions when they are newly created?  I just created the /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 using fdisk, wrote the changes, and reboot to restart the installation.
[23:59] <gustav__> Oh yeah. How do I disable that stupid boot thing with dots that don't say anything?
[23:59] <burdickjp> I can ALT+Fx to other TTYs, but it will not accept a user name and password to log on
[23:59] <Krywk> chaospsychex, Nope. Amnesia, Afraid of Monsters, Cry of Fear, Borderlands 1/2, Assassin's Creed, Killing Floor, GTA IV, Darksiders, Dead Space, Xonotic, Diablo III, Portal 2...