[00:04] <pleia2> knome: I think something is wonky with html generation of our docs, guide-desktop.html for instance is empty
[00:05] <pleia2> (it's also possible I pulled down the wrong branch or something :))
[00:09] <Unit193> bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu/quantal/xubuntu-docs/  ?
[00:11] <pleia2> just grabbed lp:xubuntu-docs
[00:30] <Unit193> Isn't that the 2008 outdated ones?
[00:32] <pleia2> no
[00:33] <pleia2> the theme is quite different, and the 2008 version wouldn't be mentioning 12.04 precise :P
[00:35] <Unit193> Try  lp:ubuntu/quantal/xubuntu-docs  -  https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/xubuntu-docs/quantal
[00:35] <xnox> pleia2: you made me cry with your talk.... "field trip to see the computer" and no deployments "because they have no electricity"
[00:36] <pleia2> xnox: it is pretty sad
[00:36] <xnox> pleia2: I think between all my gadgets I had 12 CPU cores in my bag during your talk =/
[00:38] <pleia2> I was carrying a few the day we visited that school, was tempting to pull out my netbook there but I think it would have caused the teachers more chaos than it was worth
[00:39] <xnox> pleia2: yeah.... that would be a bit cruel.
[00:40] <xnox> pleia2: how does it feel to be gods? Heck, after all, we do spin up clouds these days...
[00:41] <pleia2> xnox: I meant to show the kids a computer, not to show off
[00:41] <pleia2> chaos in that they would all be fighting to use it
[00:41] <xnox> pleia2: yeah, I got that.
[00:41] <pleia2> I don't think that would be "cruel" :\
[00:41] <pleia2> just didn't want to interrupt lessons
[00:42] <xnox> pleia2: but it would be a shock. Well they would not be able to keep it.
[00:42] <xnox> pleia2: nore use it. I am guessing if they go to school that has no electricity, their homes don't have electric either.
[00:43] <pleia2> I don't think exposing kids to technology is cruel, any exposure is good even if they can't keep it for themselves
[00:43] <xnox> ack.
[00:43] <pleia2> I had plenty of exposure to computers as a kid before we had one at home, or one that I could use at school, mostly at friend's houses and things
[00:43] <pleia2> I was thankful for the opportunities I had :)
[00:44] <xnox> yeah... =)
[00:51] <pleia2> Unit193: that worked better, thanks
[00:52] <Unit193> Sure, I'm pulling in the raring one, but I don't know what one we'd actually be working on or I'd switch to that.
[09:20] <knome> did somebody update the xubuntu summary for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-R/Summaries ? <3
[09:35] <knome> just a note for everybody developing xubuntu
[09:36] <knome> in the R cycle, most of the freezes are later than previously, but getting freeze exceptions is harder
[09:36] <knome> so please MAKE SURE you have your work done WELL BEFORE THE FREEZES
[09:46] <Unit193> So with automated testing, does that mean human testing will be harder?
[09:46] <knome> Unit193, nope.
[09:46] <Unit193> Deja vu.
[09:46] <Unit193> Alright, my guess was so because it's already doing the basics, but I know it does't have eyes.
[09:47] <knome> yeah, and there's no reason to make human testing harder
[09:48] <Unit193> Thinking that it would be pointless to duplicate work, but alrightyo.
[09:49] <knome> i can't see how that would be a problem
[09:49] <knome> in testing, the more tests you can do with different setups... the better
[09:50] <Unit193> Cool.
[09:52] <Unit193> Updated sync script.
[09:53] <knome> should get something to eat
[09:55] <Unit193> I already checked, there's only the banana bread.  (Which is rather good)
[09:56] <knome> we have lots of food in the fridge
[10:18] <astraljava> Yeah but your fridge isn't here.
[10:20] <Unit193> Nor here.
[10:27] <ochosi> knome: wb from uds!
[10:32] <knome> thanks!
[17:23] <Unit193> [xubuntu-team] See if we ship the Pidgin IRC client by default: TODO   We already ship pidgin IM client by default unit193@Sigma:~$ apt-cache show pidgin | grep Task  >  Task: xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop
[19:33] <knome> GridCube, you still up to writing the top faq for 12.10?
[19:33] <GridCube> knome, I've asked several times for help on topics
[19:34] <knome> GridCube, i know
[19:34] <GridCube> no answer whatsoever, i've been seen recuring questions lately tho
[19:34] <knome> GridCube, we all have a bit more time now
[19:34] <knome> GridCube, and less stress over the release :)
[19:34] <GridCube> the ones about gigolo for example
[19:34] <GridCube> :) ok ill ask again
[19:34] <knome> maybe you could send an email to the -devel list?
[19:34] <knome> i'll try to follow up ASAP
[19:35] <Unit193> Covered by release notes, but you still get the indicator and dupe ones.
[19:35] <knome> we can definitely add stuff that's been in the release notes, since some people just dismiss them anyway
[19:35] <knome> ailo, old nick :)
[19:36] <Unit193> Seen the non-PAE issue a few times, but pretty sure none were in #xubuntu >_>
[19:38] <GridCube> ive seen it in xubuntu aswel
[19:39] <GridCube> oh. i meant the new bios replacement, not non pae
[19:39] <GridCube> that uefi thing
[19:39] <GridCube> that might need a whole article by itself
[19:40] <GridCube> pointing the gazillion manuals and stuffs it needs to work most of the time
[19:40] <knome> maybe, but maybe not from xubuntu
[19:40] <GridCube> true that
[19:40] <GridCube> as said, not particularly a xubuntu thing, its a huge ubuntu thing though
[19:41] <knome> yup, some ubuntu docs people should step up for that maybe
[19:41] <Unit193> knome: See comment above about pidgin?
[19:42] <knome> Unit193, does that mean IRC is supported by default?
[19:42] <knome> Unit193, i mean we knew we ship pidgin, but irc...
[19:43] <Unit193> It works pretty much as well as it's going to with IRC.
[19:44] <knome> oki
[19:44] <knome> i can't remember why we wanted to check that
[19:44] <knome> but ok :D
[19:44] <knome> Unit193, can you add your own nick to the work item and mark it done? :P
[19:45] <knome> Unit193, and maybe add information in the roadmap that we have "pidgin with irc" in the def apps section
[20:00] <GridCube> mister k, do i send the mail to users aswel?
[20:00] <knome> GridCube, hmh, i'd say devel only for now
[20:01] <GridCube> kay
[20:01] <knome> but feel free to send -users too if you think it's useful
[20:02]  * knome thinks that people can the micro-level decision making themselves too :)
[20:04] <GridCube> knome, do i link them to the pad http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/QyW3FDrQcv ?
[20:04] <GridCube> oh... it seems down
[20:09] <knome> whatever you see fit
[20:10] <GridCube> it doesnt seem to work so i wont use it, people should just post to the mailing list
[20:10] <knome> yep
[20:11] <Unit193> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-r-xubuntu-development Done, but the other?
[20:12] <knome> Unit193, i can do that
[20:12] <GridCube> As like the past few releases we are compiling a FAQ for our website.
[20:12] <GridCube> This release brings many new things, with the inclusion of xfce 4.10 and the slightly hard problems of compatibility between xfce using gtk2 and mainbuntu using mainly gtk3.
[20:12] <GridCube> If you have any tip or recurrent circumstance you happen to know how to solve, and think that might help new comers please share it with us.
[20:12] <GridCube> Its easy to oversee things when you are used to a system, things we might have internalized as a procedural might not be so obvious to others. If you feel like you know something that can help the community we are here so asking you to share it :D.
[20:12] <GridCube> Thanks for your time.
[20:12] <GridCube> D:
[20:12] <GridCube> fail paste
[20:13] <Unit193> knome: Alright, I don't remember where the roadmap is, and don't have FF open.
[20:13] <knome> Unit193, did that already. and it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/ :)
[20:14] <Unit193> Thanks.
[20:14] <GridCube> well its here now, do you think thats ok? i just dont like to post things whitout consulting
[20:15] <knome> GridCube, that looks fine
[20:15] <GridCube> good