[00:04] knome: I think something is wonky with html generation of our docs, guide-desktop.html for instance is empty [00:05] (it's also possible I pulled down the wrong branch or something :)) [00:09] bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu/quantal/xubuntu-docs/ ? [00:11] just grabbed lp:xubuntu-docs [00:30] Isn't that the 2008 outdated ones? [00:32] no [00:33] the theme is quite different, and the 2008 version wouldn't be mentioning 12.04 precise :P [00:35] Try lp:ubuntu/quantal/xubuntu-docs - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/xubuntu-docs/quantal [00:35] pleia2: you made me cry with your talk.... "field trip to see the computer" and no deployments "because they have no electricity" [00:36] xnox: it is pretty sad [00:36] pleia2: I think between all my gadgets I had 12 CPU cores in my bag during your talk =/ [00:38] I was carrying a few the day we visited that school, was tempting to pull out my netbook there but I think it would have caused the teachers more chaos than it was worth [00:39] pleia2: yeah.... that would be a bit cruel. [00:40] pleia2: how does it feel to be gods? Heck, after all, we do spin up clouds these days... [00:41] xnox: I meant to show the kids a computer, not to show off [00:41] chaos in that they would all be fighting to use it [00:41] pleia2: yeah, I got that. [00:41] I don't think that would be "cruel" :\ [00:41] just didn't want to interrupt lessons [00:42] pleia2: but it would be a shock. Well they would not be able to keep it. [00:42] pleia2: nore use it. I am guessing if they go to school that has no electricity, their homes don't have electric either. [00:43] I don't think exposing kids to technology is cruel, any exposure is good even if they can't keep it for themselves [00:43] ack. [00:43] I had plenty of exposure to computers as a kid before we had one at home, or one that I could use at school, mostly at friend's houses and things [00:43] I was thankful for the opportunities I had :) [00:44] yeah... =) [00:51] Unit193: that worked better, thanks [00:52] Sure, I'm pulling in the raring one, but I don't know what one we'd actually be working on or I'd switch to that. [09:20] did somebody update the xubuntu summary for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-R/Summaries ? <3 [09:35] just a note for everybody developing xubuntu [09:36] in the R cycle, most of the freezes are later than previously, but getting freeze exceptions is harder [09:36] so please MAKE SURE you have your work done WELL BEFORE THE FREEZES [09:46] So with automated testing, does that mean human testing will be harder? [09:46] Unit193, nope. [09:46] Deja vu. [09:46] Alright, my guess was so because it's already doing the basics, but I know it does't have eyes. [09:47] yeah, and there's no reason to make human testing harder [09:48] Thinking that it would be pointless to duplicate work, but alrightyo. [09:49] i can't see how that would be a problem [09:49] in testing, the more tests you can do with different setups... the better [09:50] Cool. [09:52] Updated sync script. [09:53] should get something to eat [09:55] I already checked, there's only the banana bread. (Which is rather good) [09:56] we have lots of food in the fridge [10:18] Yeah but your fridge isn't here. [10:20] Nor here. [10:27] knome: wb from uds! [10:32] thanks! === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:23] [xubuntu-team] See if we ship the Pidgin IRC client by default: TODO We already ship pidgin IM client by default unit193@Sigma:~$ apt-cache show pidgin | grep Task > Task: xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop [19:33] GridCube, you still up to writing the top faq for 12.10? [19:33] knome, I've asked several times for help on topics [19:34] GridCube, i know [19:34] no answer whatsoever, i've been seen recuring questions lately tho [19:34] GridCube, we all have a bit more time now [19:34] GridCube, and less stress over the release :) [19:34] the ones about gigolo for example [19:34] :) ok ill ask again [19:34] maybe you could send an email to the -devel list? [19:34] i'll try to follow up ASAP [19:35] Covered by release notes, but you still get the indicator and dupe ones. [19:35] we can definitely add stuff that's been in the release notes, since some people just dismiss them anyway [19:35] ailo, old nick :) [19:36] Seen the non-PAE issue a few times, but pretty sure none were in #xubuntu >_> [19:38] ive seen it in xubuntu aswel [19:39] oh. i meant the new bios replacement, not non pae [19:39] that uefi thing [19:39] that might need a whole article by itself [19:40] pointing the gazillion manuals and stuffs it needs to work most of the time [19:40] maybe, but maybe not from xubuntu [19:40] true that [19:40] as said, not particularly a xubuntu thing, its a huge ubuntu thing though [19:41] yup, some ubuntu docs people should step up for that maybe [19:41] knome: See comment above about pidgin? [19:42] Unit193, does that mean IRC is supported by default? [19:42] Unit193, i mean we knew we ship pidgin, but irc... [19:43] It works pretty much as well as it's going to with IRC. [19:44] oki [19:44] i can't remember why we wanted to check that [19:44] but ok :D [19:44] Unit193, can you add your own nick to the work item and mark it done? :P [19:45] Unit193, and maybe add information in the roadmap that we have "pidgin with irc" in the def apps section [20:00] mister k, do i send the mail to users aswel? [20:00] GridCube, hmh, i'd say devel only for now [20:01] kay [20:01] but feel free to send -users too if you think it's useful [20:02] * knome thinks that people can the micro-level decision making themselves too :) [20:04] knome, do i link them to the pad http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/QyW3FDrQcv ? [20:04] oh... it seems down [20:09] whatever you see fit [20:10] it doesnt seem to work so i wont use it, people should just post to the mailing list [20:10] yep [20:11] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-r-xubuntu-development Done, but the other? [20:12] Unit193, i can do that [20:12] As like the past few releases we are compiling a FAQ for our website. [20:12] This release brings many new things, with the inclusion of xfce 4.10 and the slightly hard problems of compatibility between xfce using gtk2 and mainbuntu using mainly gtk3. [20:12] If you have any tip or recurrent circumstance you happen to know how to solve, and think that might help new comers please share it with us. [20:12] Its easy to oversee things when you are used to a system, things we might have internalized as a procedural might not be so obvious to others. If you feel like you know something that can help the community we are here so asking you to share it :D. [20:12] Thanks for your time. [20:12] D: [20:12] fail paste [20:13] knome: Alright, I don't remember where the roadmap is, and don't have FF open. [20:13] Unit193, did that already. and it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/ :) [20:14] Thanks. [20:14] well its here now, do you think thats ok? i just dont like to post things whitout consulting [20:15] GridCube, that looks fine [20:15] good