[00:13]  * TheLordOfTime yawns
[00:14] <TheLordOfTime> maxb, did you ever resolve mspencer's question about marking it as affects:preicse ?
[00:14] <TheLordOfTime> precise*
[00:20] <penguin42> anyone remind me how you mark a bug as affecting a previous release - i.e. you mark current as fixed released but someone is saying they'd like it fixed in an older one? Is that nominate for series?
[00:20] <TheLordOfTime> nominate for the older release, mark it fix released there?
[00:21] <TheLordOfTime> nominate for series is how bugs that're filed against a package can be set in multiple releases
[00:21] <TheLordOfTime> (such as precise, quantal, and raring)
[00:22] <TheLordOfTime> but if you're not a member of a group that can actually approve the nomination of the series, you'll just have to wait a while after you've nominated...
[00:22] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/1070685  hmm that doesn't look right - I thought you often see it with a separate thing on the left  something like  okular (Precise) or something similar?
[00:22] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1070685 in okular (Ubuntu) "pdf does not print correctly, and ps generated from pdf shows errors when viewing" [Medium,Fix released]
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, did you fail to set this right?
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, you don't change the bug until AFTER its set that it affects precise.
[00:23] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Right, but how do I set it that it affects precise - that's my question
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> you hit "Nominate for series"
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> choose "Precise"
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> and wait
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> are you bugcontrol?
[00:24] <penguin42> yes
[00:24] <penguin42> ah - that's got it, thanks
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> this was fixed in quantal?
[00:24] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Well....it works in Quantal
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> the question was whether the bug affects quantal
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> if not, then it was likely fixed in the interim
[00:25] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: The original reporter is reporting it affects precise, it doesn't affect Quantal - where it was fixed is difficult to know
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> if it doesn't affect quantal, then i'd assume it was fixed somewhere between the precise and quantal versions
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> maybe in the Debian version of the package, if it exists?
[00:26] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Which as per my comments is difficult, but it's reasonable that the reporter would want a precise fix
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> i never touch the milestone, though *shrugs*
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> normally i leave that to the more fluent bug gods ;P
[00:27] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Yeh the milestone was my mistake
[00:27]  * penguin42 has undone that
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> i've commented that we've nominated the bug to be marked as affecting Precise
[00:28] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: The tricky thing is tracking down exactly which package causes his bug, without doing that it wouldn't be possible to SRU it
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> if the bug's not in okular but some ancillary package, then the bug isnt actually *in* ocular
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> s/ancillary/supporting or dependency/
[00:28] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Agreed, but it's the current best bet
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> making the okular bug invalid, and the bug'll need filing against whatever the other package is ;P
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> i did add a comment that we nominated it for precise, so they should be less naggy ;P
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> YOU EVIL THING, WHY DO YOU NOT COMPILE RIGHT!
[00:29]  * TheLordOfTime kicks his php5 fork
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> php5's inherently evil, but... *shrugs*
[00:30] <penguin42> yeh; the tricky thing now is how the heck to ask the end user to help track down where it broke
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> i'll betcha if it is fixed in the version in quantal there's a bug somewhere on it
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> either on LP, Debian, or upstream
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> and that bug was marked as fixed.  or marked as invalid and information was staqted in that bug where it was fixed
[00:31] <TheLordOfTime> brb, reboot for linux :)
[00:31] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: I suspect there are so many pdf rendering fixes that it's going to be a bit nasty to find; coupled with it could actually be any bit of pdf/postscriptism down the chain
[00:34] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[00:34] <TheLordOfTime> (fast reboots, for the win)
[00:36] <TheLordOfTime> *sigh* i'll be glad when this is fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1074239
[00:36] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1074239 in Launchpad itself "Timeout error when trying to view any user profile page." [Critical,In progress]
[00:36] <TheLordOfTime> its a pain to have that there :/
[00:38] <TheLordOfTime> *sigh* penguin42, you know what I hate...
[00:38] <TheLordOfTime> i hate packages that depend on a given web server :/
[00:38] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Erk, like what?
[00:38] <TheLordOfTime> dokuwiki
[00:39] <TheLordOfTime> erm, that may just be the system actually
[00:39]  * TheLordOfTime dissects the package
[00:39] <TheLordOfTime> oh, you know what... i think its one of its php dependencies
[00:39] <TheLordOfTime> or the recommendations...
[00:40] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: I'm sure there's a reason you like fixing php stuff, I can't imagine why....
[00:40] <TheLordOfTime> its pulling php5-cli and libapache2* stuff as Recommends and Suggests
[00:40] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42:  actually i despise the package
[00:40] <TheLordOfTime> i just try and help confirm things ;P
[00:40] <TheLordOfTime> and get things closer to Triaged
[00:40] <TheLordOfTime> as for php5, i SRU the severe things that'd also impact nginx ;P
[00:40] <penguin42> nod; I try and stick to things I've got some idea about
[00:40] <TheLordOfTime> i have semi-decent knowledge to fix some php5 bugs
[00:40] <TheLordOfTime> but its SRUing them that people fial to do :p
[00:41] <TheLordOfTime> and i only get involved with ones which impact my setups :P;
[00:41] <TheLordOfTime> otherwise, my focus is nginx
[00:41] <penguin42> what's nginx?
[00:41] <TheLordOfTime> ubottu's not in here right?
 nginx (source: nginx): small, powerful, scalable web/proxy server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-2.2 (quantal), package size 7 kB, installed size 86 kB
[00:41] <TheLordOfTime> yep
[00:41] <TheLordOfTime> its not.
[00:41] <TheLordOfTime> its a wbe server in universe.
[00:41] <penguin42> ah ok
[00:41]  * TheLordOfTime despises apache
[00:42] <TheLordOfTime> nginx is easier to understand ;P
[00:42] <TheLordOfTime> at least to me.
[00:42] <TheLordOfTime> less cruft in the way, IMO
[00:42]  * penguin42 isn't really a web servery person; I've only done relatively simple stuff with webservers
[00:43] <TheLordOfTime> yeah, apparently some of the nginx people would rather have an Ubuntu-fluent person handle their SRUs
[00:43]  * TheLordOfTime ended up being that person :/
[00:43] <penguin42> ah, didn't run fast enough :-)
[00:43] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[00:44] <TheLordOfTime> i mean, its not a problem for me, i know the package pretty well.  most bugfixes are handled upstream, so then i just SRU the patch :p
[00:46] <TheLordOfTime> its pretty bug-free in Ubuntu right now.  either that or nobody's using it.
[00:50] <penguin42> yeh that's not too bad once you're used to the sequence
[00:56] <TheLordOfTime> i've done a couple of SRUs, only needed to SRU nginx once, though.
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> although if we look only at that package, i've had fixes for security bugs pushed too by the security team
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> that was a bit ago, that's the first true work on the package i've done outside of a couple of bug reports
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> since then, there hasnt been much of a need for a lot of SRUs
[00:58] <TheLordOfTime> being on the server team, though, i end up seeing all the php5 bugs.
[00:58] <TheLordOfTime> it gets annoying after a while ;P