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| mohamedalaa98 | Hi! | 12:34 |
| mohamedalaa98 | Can you please review th propose https://code.launchpad.net/~m-alaa8/ubuntu/raring/im-switch/fix-for-621204/+merge/132031 | 12:35 |
| mohamedalaa98 | *this | 12:35 |
| mohamedalaa98 | thank you :) | 12:35 |
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| alo21 | hi all | 17:00 |
| alo21 | I would like to upgrade some packages. I have no upload right, so the only way is to make a request. | 17:01 |
| obounaim | Hello everybody, | 17:02 |
| alo21 | My question is: How should I act? I mean... when I find a package to upgrade in LP (like: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zpaq/+bug/1074840), what are the steps? | 17:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1074840 in zpaq (Ubuntu) "Zpaq package isnt up to date (wasnt updated over 2 years)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:02 |
| alo21 | obounaim: hi | 17:03 |
| jtaylor | alo21: the first step should probably be forwarding the issue to debian | 17:03 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: you mean if there's an upgrated package there? | 17:04 |
| jtaylor | the maintainer is still active, so best contact him | 17:04 |
| alo21 | ok | 17:04 |
| jtaylor | http://packages.qa.debian.org/z/zpaq.html | 17:04 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: this mean I will never find a package without a maintainer | 17:05 |
| jtaylor | in debian no | 17:05 |
| jtaylor | but sometimes the maintainer is not active anymore, then it gets complicated | 17:05 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: once time I forward the issue? | 17:06 |
| jtaylor | ? | 17:08 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: if the package will be upload in Debian, should I make a sync request? | 17:11 |
| jtaylor | yes | 17:11 |
| jtaylor | it will likely go into experimental which needs manual sync | 17:11 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: what do you mean with 'manual sync'? | 17:12 |
| jtaylor | stuff from unstable is synced automatically | 17:13 |
| jtaylor | until some point in the cycle | 17:13 |
| jtaylor | after that or when its in experimental you need to request a sync | 17:13 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: ok... just one more question. Here (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zpaq) there is jary aalto as maintainer. The name shows there is the debian's maintainer or the Ubuntu's one? | 17:18 |
| jtaylor | its the debian maintainer | 17:18 |
| jtaylor | ubuntu does rarely have maintainers | 17:18 |
| jtaylor | if the version has no ubuntuX its definitely a debian maintained package | 17:19 |
| maxb | ....mostly :-0 | 17:21 |
| maxb | er, :-) | 17:21 |
| maxb | The exception would be the few packages that are developed specifically for Ubuntu | 17:21 |
| jtaylor | those have -0ubuntuX as version | 17:21 |
| maxb | !info upstart | 17:22 |
| ubottu | upstart (source: upstart): event-based init daemon. In component main, is required. Version 1.5-0ubuntu8 (quantal), package size 284 kB, installed size 1000 kB | 17:22 |
| jtaylor | there are only very few were this is not true | 17:22 |
| jtaylor | mostly very old ones | 17:22 |
| maxb | hm, I'm sure there's a few examples somewhere | 17:22 |
| jtaylor | only few | 17:22 |
| siretart | !info udev | 17:22 |
| ubottu | udev (source: udev): rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is required. Version 175-0ubuntu10 (quantal), package size 310 kB, installed size 946 kB | 17:22 |
| maxb | OK, cheating slightly, but: | 17:23 |
| maxb | !info ubuntu-docs | 17:23 |
| ubottu | ubuntu-docs (source: ubuntu-docs): Ubuntu Desktop Guide. In component main, is optional. Version 12.10.2 (quantal), package size 1415 kB, installed size 38049 kB | 17:23 |
| maxb | :-) | 17:23 |
| siretart | !info libav-extra :-) | 17:23 |
| ubottu | ':-)' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable | 17:23 |
| siretart | gnarf | 17:23 |
| siretart | !info libav-extra | 17:23 |
| ubottu | Package libav-extra does not exist in quantal | 17:23 |
| siretart | seriously? | 17:23 |
| siretart | ubottu: am i imagining https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/libav-extra then? | 17:24 |
| ubottu | siretart: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 17:24 |
| maxb | OK, my knowledge of upstart versioning is evidently a bit out of date, it got the 0ubuntuX treatment in oneiric | 17:24 |
| micahg | siretart: the bot doesn't know about source packages | 17:26 |
| jtaylor | it didn't have it before oneiric because it was in sync with debian | 17:29 |
| jtaylor | but still its one of the packages maintained in ubuntu, stuff in universe is normally debian maintained | 17:29 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: the maintainer told me that he could not upgrade the package because 'Zpaq after 1.10 are complete rewrites'. | 17:33 |
| alo21 | what should I do? | 17:33 |
| siretart | micahg: oh, i see. thanks | 17:34 |
| jtaylor | did he say why that prevents updating? | 17:34 |
| siretart | micahg: what do you think about uploading libav to raring? | 17:34 |
| jtaylor | also did you file a bug? | 17:34 |
| micahg | siretart: well, as we discussed before release, sooner is better as soon as it's ABI stable | 17:35 |
| siretart | micahg: it is supposed to be now. | 17:35 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: I sent him the bug's link, and he told me what I wrote you before | 17:36 |
| jtaylor | ask him to explain it in more detail, preferably in a bug report so its public | 17:37 |
| jtaylor | I just saw he answered in the ubuntu bug | 17:50 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: yes | 18:05 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: here is another upgrade-request (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ipmitool/+bug/1074443), and it seems to be noticed yet (http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ipmitool.html), Haven'i I to send an email to debian's maintainer. Right? | 18:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1074443 in ipmitool (Ubuntu) "Please upgrade ipmitool to 1.8.12 for 13.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:14 |
| jtaylor | alo21: file a bug in debian | 18:19 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: but it is in TODO list yet | 18:20 |
| alo21 | have I to do this anyway? | 18:21 |
| jtaylor | which todo list? | 18:22 |
| alo21 | here http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ipmitool.html | 18:23 |
| jtaylor | its still better to request it | 18:24 |
| jtaylor | as debian is frozen it would need to go into experimental, the maintainer may only want to do that if there is a request for it | 18:25 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: have I attach the debian's bug in LP? | 18:41 |
| jtaylor | alo21: click on affects distribution -> select debian and paste the bug url | 18:48 |
| jtaylor | you should also be more verbose in the debian bug, at least link to the ubuntu bug | 18:49 |
| jtaylor | also remember to subscribe to debian b ugs | 18:51 |
| jtaylor | its not done by default | 18:51 |
| tumbleweed | but one generally CCs the reporter when replying to a bug, if their input is desired | 18:53 |
| jtaylor | yes but that can be forgotten | 18:53 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, "generally" :) | 18:53 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: thanks | 18:55 |
| zhur | Hello! I don't know if this is the right channel but can someone help me with a package creating? I've got a project sources where one of the build dependencies is bundled with the project. How do I write a rules file that runs build of the subproject first and then the project itself (both are cmake-based)? | 19:13 |
| rigid | ahoy | 21:09 |
| rigid | can anyone tell me what I is needed (besides a webserver) to host a deb repository? (so the user can just add it like described here http://deb.opera.com/ for example) | 21:14 |
| rigid | under the estimation that this is the best way to provide 3rd-party software in ubuntu... | 21:14 |
| maxb | rigid: Besides a webserver you just need software to write the appropriate index files which tell apt what's available in the repository | 21:24 |
| maxb | I find reprepro to be a good tool for managing a repository like this | 21:25 |
| maxb | Though it is a tool you should expect to spend some time learning | 21:25 |
| rigid | maxb: ah ok, so I need another program to do that... | 21:26 |
| maxb | Alternatively there are various ways to generate indexes for just an assortment of .deb files thrown in a directory, but I don't recommend that approach for anything but the smallest most ad-hoc repository | 21:27 |
| rigid | maxb: it's a very small repo, really... i would like to keep it at a minimum | 21:28 |
| maxb | Is it going to be hosted on a Debian/Ubuntu server? | 21:29 |
| rigid | no | 21:30 |
| rigid | it will be hosted on gentoo | 21:30 |
| maxb | Hmm. It can be tricky to sort out the index generation if you don't at least have an installation of dpkg | 21:30 |
| rigid | i have dpkg | 21:31 |
| rigid | i also have http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debianutils.html and http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debhelper.html available | 21:31 |
| maxb | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1333265/ is a script I wrote to do some very basic repositorymaking for a handful of local temporary packages in build environments | 21:32 |
| maxb | I would expect you need to tweak it, but it should give you some inspiration and lead you in the right directions | 21:32 |
| rigid | ah cool... thanks | 21:32 |
| rigid | i have dpkg-scanpackages and dpkg-scansources ... i guess i'll give it a try | 21:33 |
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