| cjwatson | infinity: I've implemented (hopefully) more correct partial suite merging in britney2; that allowed 11 extra sources to migrate, including the qapt transition | 00:07 |
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| cjwatson | infinity: opal/ptlib is blocked by t38modem | 00:08 |
| cjwatson | infinity: (which may be just a rebuild; I haven't checked) | 00:09 |
| cjwatson | infinity: I suspect that this will result in various binaries appearing in NBS for raring with everything magically green and ready to remove; if that's the case, feel free to remove them but I'd appreciate a note of what you removed just this once to confirm my theory | 00:11 |
| cjwatson | (that probably goes for everyone, but I wanted specific handoff since I'll be sleeping shortly and then travelling) | 00:20 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: before you go, any thoughts on my question on #ubuntu-devel, before I start changing the section of packages in raring,p/q-proposed/updates? | 00:24 |
| cjwatson | let me catch up over there ... | 00:26 |
| jbicha | oh, so we're trying to avoid nbs from even entering ubuntu+1? | 00:36 |
| jbicha | I kind of need something like http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html to help track those | 00:39 |
| cjwatson | yes, a raring-proposed version of the NBS tracker is on the known list | 00:40 |
| cjwatson | I asked Ursinha-afk to take a pass through ubuntu-archive-tools and fix up anything remaining that needs adjustments for -proposed (some will just need to be flipped over, while some may need two versions, and some may need something more sophisticated) | 00:41 |
| cjwatson | jbicha: however, in the meantime, you can track them in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/ once you get used to the output format | 00:41 |
| cjwatson | infinity: ignore previous comment about NBS; I've confirmed and processed the output now | 01:12 |
| infinity | cjwatson: t38modem is porting, not a rebuild, I'll poke at it later. | 01:24 |
| infinity | jbicha: Yeah, the plan is to make transitions happen in -proposed, except for wildly exceptional circumstances. And, in general, if you think your circumstance is exceptional, it's probably not. | 01:26 |
| jbicha | infinity: it looks like all of the other ptlib/opal rdepends are fine with just a rebuild | 01:27 |
| infinity | jbicha: I already did everything else. | 01:27 |
| infinity | jbicha: Keep up. ;) | 01:27 |
| infinity | jbicha: t38modem is all that's left, and I have it half done here. | 01:27 |
| jbicha | infinity: oh, well cool then | 01:33 |
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| * stgraber copies whopsie, apport, nux and compiz from quantal-updates to raring-proposed as those weren't uploaded or copied to the dev release (or were 0-day SRUs) | 16:33 | |
| stgraber | my quick check for packages in dev release being older than those in the -updates pocket of stable release for a standard desktop install also detected firefox and thunderbird, but those two are already in raring-proposed, they're just failling to build on non-x86... | 16:35 |
| xnox | I don't know if something is blocked, but dailies are currently only generated for omap4 and amd64-mac =) | 17:28 |
| stgraber | i386 gives empty logs and I've seen some amd64 failures in my mails. I was assuming that something was wrong with the i386 build chroot but didn't investigate more as I don't quite need a working daily yet :) | 17:29 |
| xnox | ack. =) I want a working daily =) | 17:30 |
| stgraber | hmm, no useful log for i386... I'll kick a manual build of the i386 livefs and see if I can get something | 17:33 |
| stgraber | ok, it's failling immediately with "No valid suites to build for" | 17:33 |
| stgraber | so I guess that confirms my theory that something's broken on cardamom with the i386 build chroot for raring as that error message appears to come from the build server. Not much I can do myself to fix that sadly. | 17:37 |
| slangasek | infinity: ^^ is the broken build env on cardamom for livefses something you can help with? | 18:20 |
| slangasek | mdeslaur: hey, why is munin in quantal-proposed with no bugs referenced in the changelog? Is this something you're gathering feedback on out-of-band before copying to -security? | 20:13 |
| mdeslaur | slangasek: yes | 20:13 |
| slangasek | mdeslaur: ok, just making sure | 20:13 |
| mdeslaur | slangasek: It's going to be published in -security this week | 20:13 |
| mdeslaur | slangasek: thanks | 20:13 |
| infinity | stgraber / slangasek: I still have an open ticket for livefs chroots. Not much that can be done on the weekend. | 20:36 |
| slangasek | infinity: ah, didn't know there was one open already - thanks | 20:39 |
| slangasek | is that a "chroots not created yet" issue? | 20:39 |
| infinity | slangasek: Aye. | 20:39 |
| * slangasek nods | 20:39 | |
| infinity | I'll poke Haw when he's around and see how dreadfully busy he is. | 20:40 |
| slangasek | this nexus7 is frustrating; I didn't realize the extent to which my dvorak muscle memory failed to translate to hunt-n-peck for onscreen keyboards | 20:40 |
| slangasek | and onboard cleverly uses the configured keyboard map... so I have to pick my poison | 20:40 |
| infinity | Switch to Dvorak on your Android phone, too, and let the problem work itself out over the next week of pain? | 20:41 |
| slangasek | swype doesn't support dvorak | 20:42 |
| slangasek | at least, not last I looked | 20:42 |
| infinity | Yeah, the only keyboard I have installed that speaks Dvorak is Hacker's Keyboard, but it doesn't do swipey things. | 20:43 |
| stgraber | I just gave up and plugged a physical keyboard to the tablet, I can't get used to typing more than 10 words on an onscreen keyboard | 20:44 |
| maxb | ... and I thought my problems dealing with moving between US and UK QWERTY layouts were bad ... this conversation is giving me perspective :-) | 20:45 |
| slangasek | stgraber: OTG FTW :) | 20:45 |
| infinity | stgraber: It's weird. I finally got used to typing on phones (and am quite fast at it), but I find tablet keyboards just entirely the wrong combination of form factor and onscreeniness to be usable. | 20:45 |
| stgraber | yep and we even got that nice OTG to host adapter with the tablet ;) | 20:45 |
| slangasek | maxb: heh, uk<->us is probably harder because of the similarity, the qwerty and dvorak maps are at least stored separately in my brain so that there's a clean switch between them... I just don't have any corresponding dvorak hunt'n'peck because the issue has never come up :) | 20:46 |
| infinity | (And this isn't a bitch about Onscreen, in my case, I find the Android keyboard and the iOS one equally unusable on tablets) | 20:46 |
| infinity | Maybe I'm that 1% of the market that netbooks are still aimed at, for that very reason. | 20:47 |
| slangasek | now I just need a USB video device so I can plug the nexus into my KVM | 20:48 |
| stgraber | infinity: I almost got used to using swype on my phone, though it's still a pretty slow input method and I have to constantly switch between languages (I write using english technical words to french speaking friends who have german names...) | 20:48 |
| slangasek | stgraber: german names + english tech -> custom dictionary? :) | 20:49 |
| slangasek | I'm pretty irritated in general with the version of swype included in the T-Mobile ICS load | 20:50 |
| slangasek | pros: includes more languages by default so I can swype in my language of choice. cons: thinks it's ok to autocorrect me when I've typed out a word instead of swyping it | 20:50 |
| stgraber | slangasek: according to google, the nexus 7 doesn't do MHL, so no luck at getting any kind of external video output then :( | 20:53 |
| slangasek | MHL? | 20:53 |
| maxb | HDMI output from a USB-ish thing | 20:54 |
| stgraber | some weird hack that phone manufacturers use to get both USB and HDMI on a USB port | 20:54 |
| slangasek | hmm | 20:54 |
| stgraber | if it did, you could have bought a splitter, then get both USB and an HDMI output from the tablet which would have been pretty handy to plug it on a kvm :) | 20:54 |
| maxb | I don't think MHL necessarily supports USB and HDMI simultaneously | 20:55 |
| slangasek | right; even without that though, there are USB video devices that are supported by X, and I've heard they might work with varying degrees of success | 20:55 |
| stgraber | oh, the displaylink devices, yeah, I've been meaning to try one of those again, last time all I could get was a green screen but that was a while ago (when I still had access to one of those) | 20:56 |
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