[00:01] <ali1234> since I'm going to use this screenshot to slate KDE design i encourage you to make it look as good as you can :P
[00:06] <BigRedS> does KDE design need slating?
[00:06] <BigRedS> Isn't that a bit like grumbling that the sea is wet
[00:06] <ali1234> no, it's more like grumbling that the sea is full of toxic waste
[07:03] <bootlkjkgf> Morning ... not a bad day weather-wise today.
[07:15] <bootlkjkgf> AlanBell, morning
[07:45] <popey> morning
[09:19] <MartijnVdS> \o
[09:49] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:40] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[11:06] <jacobw> morning
[11:07] <jacobw> hey ali1234
[11:08] <ali1234> hi
[11:08] <Myrtti> moin
[11:08] <Myrtti> rainy :-(
[11:09] <jacobw> sunny but cold here
[11:30] <popey> $morning
[11:30] <MartijnVdS> \@morning
[11:45] <jacobw> &morning
[11:46] <MartijnVdS> jacobw: that's so Perl4
[11:49] <jacobw> :P
[11:56] <bootlkjkgf> Wonder what happened to the '404-show' [ http://cnettv.cnet.com/the-404/ ] - must still be submerged. Still abiding by popey's post about not voting !: http://goo.gl/xB9qn
[12:03] <popey> bootlkjkgf, hmm?
[12:04] <MartijnVdS> Looks like random text + random links
[12:18] <danfish> g'day
[12:19] <danfish> anyone running ubuntu on their nexus 7? Any reviews?
[12:27] <popey> yes
[12:33] <danfish> popey: is it 'productive' system?
[12:33] <popey> it works, yes
[12:34] <popey> unity isn't really designed for tablets at the moment (contrary to what some may say) so it's not ideal, there are plenty of bugs
[12:34] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bugs
[12:35] <danfish> ok, quite a few bugs there but very exciting for the future :)
[12:36] <danfish> I like android on tablets, but there are a few annoyances that disrupt my workflow
[12:38] <MartijnVdS> I have a Chromebook now.. it's.. weird.. to only have a browser
[12:39]  * bigcalm staggers in for a bit
[12:40] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: is there any way to get to a terminal?
[12:40] <MartijnVdS> there's ctrl+alt+T
[12:40] <MartijnVdS> it gets you a limited terminal that can do ssh
[12:40] <MartijnVdS> and there's developer mode, which gives you full shell
[12:40] <popey> thats good enough for most things I'd guess?
[12:40] <MartijnVdS> popey: it is for me
[12:40]  * bigcalm looks to see if he can put it on his eeepc1000
[12:40] <popey> does it sync your ssh keys to the cloud?
[12:41] <MartijnVdS> popey: I don't think so
[12:41] <MartijnVdS> you have to install them from an SD card (or similar)
[12:41] <MartijnVdS> quad-core 1.7GHz ARM is fun though
[12:41] <popey> you cant generate them?
[12:41] <popey> oh, the arm chromebook?
[12:41] <popey> I had a brief play with one running ubuntu the other day
[12:42] <popey> seems nice, odd keyboard
[12:42] <penguin42> oh I hadn't realised those were Quad A15's, I'd assumed they were dual
[12:42] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: What network connectivity do they have?
[12:43] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: mine has wifi (2.4, 5GHz 2x2 N)
[12:43] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: the also have a version with 3G
[12:43] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: But nowhere to plug a bit of string in?
[12:43] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: if you have a USB ethernet adapter it should work
[12:43] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: And it's USB2?
[12:44] <MartijnVdS> 1x USB2, 1x USB3
[12:44] <MartijnVdS> 1x HDMI
[12:44] <MartijnVdS> 1x SD
[12:45] <penguin42> oh, I didn't realise USB3; that makes it a lot nicer - you could get decent ether speed through that
[12:45] <MartijnVdS> limit for me is still my 15/1 DSL :)
[12:45] <MartijnVdS> but only 2 more weeks \o/
[12:45] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Well yeh, but still nice to be able to get to other machines in the house etc
[12:46] <bashrc> The idea of being stuck in a browser doesn't seem attractive
[12:46] <MartijnVdS> Got the "We're coming around to terminate fibre" letter
[12:46] <penguin42> bashrc: Well as MartijnVdS says, you can replace the OS completely
[12:46] <MartijnVdS> as in.. make the connections so I can order 100/100 or 500/500 \o/
[12:46] <MartijnVdS> in development mode, you can make it run Ubuntu if you really want to, apparently
[12:47] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Now annoy us by telling us how little you pay for that
[12:47] <MartijnVdS> http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/22/googler-loads-ubuntu-on-an-arm-based-samsung-chromebook/
[12:47] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: £229
[12:47] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: on amazon
[12:47] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: I meant for the fibre
[12:47] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: oh the fibre? Free.. as I work for the isp ;)
[12:47] <penguin42> gah!!!!!
[12:47] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: €40ish otherwise (per month)
[12:48] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: That's not bad at all; we can get I think 100/50 cable broadband for I believe about £35/month
[12:48]  * penguin42 is still on ADSL2 though at 10/1
[12:48] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: that's VDSL?
[12:48] <MartijnVdS> (or VDSL2 or whatever)
[12:48] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: No the 100/50 is Cable, so fibre to the cabinet and coax from cab to house
[12:48] <MartijnVdS> oh wait _cable_
[12:48] <MartijnVdS> yeah we get 100-120mbit on that as well
[12:49] <popey> there were 3 guys hacking on the chromebook at UDS last week
[12:49] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: My exchange has fibre to do VDSL2 but the street cab I'm on hasn't got it :-(
[12:49] <popey> one was the guy mentioned in the article :)
[12:49] <MartijnVdS> The fibre people are trying to find routers that can actually do gigabit, and are affordable (so they can sell 1000/1000 -- cable won't be able to do that without replacing ALL routers and customer hardware)
[12:50] <MartijnVdS> Lots of routers with gigabit ports.. but most can't do PPPoE on a VLAN at full gbit speed :)
[12:50] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Is it GPON fibre ?
[12:51] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: PON afaik
[12:51] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: 2 fibres from every home to the POP
[12:52] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: http://www.genexis.eu/medialib/304/fxp-productline-brochure.pdf
[12:57] <penguin42> very nice....
[13:46] <penguin42> right, new PC for dad ordered; delta 1 week until I have the pain of getting it going
[13:49] <cotswold> test
[13:49] <penguin42> toast
[14:01] <AlanBell> hi cotswold
[14:02] <bootlkjkgf> popey, Strange request : I'm slightly tired as I have just spent the past 4 hours looking a reddit pictures via imgur ... Do you have any more 'slightly' disturbing-stare-look pictures that you give every-so-often ?
[14:02] <bootlkjkgf> ... to wake me up.
[14:05] <AlanBell> that is a strange request
[14:09] <brobostigon> close encounters of the third kind, ch5, 14:45 :)
[14:09] <bootlkjkgf> .. it's OK .. I've twinnings Chai now .. AAhh Chai you are the only one who understands me.
[14:30] <madpup> afternoon all
[14:31] <AlanBell> afternoon
[14:31] <AlanBell> not enough geeky words rhyme with each other
[14:32] <madpup> quick question does intel gfx power scaling work in 12.10? it used to crash people in 11.10,12.04
[14:34] <AlanBell> dunno, how do I tell madpup
[14:36] <madpup> it was a kernel line into grub RC6********* something or other, i will do some research, and possibly post back
[14:36] <AlanBell> madpup: I have a laptop with intel graphics, it doesn't crash, but I have no idea how to do power scaling or what it is
[14:37] <madpup> ok man thanks for the help. if i find out i will post back
[14:50] <madpup> Alan i just looked into it and its still not 100% so im leaving this alone as this is my main pc and i want it stable
[15:54] <sagaci> Woking seems nice
[16:03]  * penguin421 doesn't think I've heard anyone comment on Woking before
[16:03]  * penguin421 has certainly never heard anyone say it's nice
[16:04] <AlanBell> it is nicely accessible by rail
[16:06] <jpds> AlanBell: So London City Airport.
[16:06] <jpds> So is*
[16:06] <AlanBell> depends where you are starting from :)
[16:07] <sagaci> Going to Guildford tomorrow
[16:07] <sagaci> Surely much more nicer than Upton park
[16:17] <SuperEngineer> popey: in case you're watchin: a while ago you took [& helped] me through reporting / cross linking a bug upstream... https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673533  :) thankyou.
[18:21] <Technomancer> o/
[18:21] <Technomancer> greetings from Gentoo
[18:22] <bigcalm> -.-
[18:23] <Technomancer> zleap: alive ?
[18:24] <zleap> yep
[18:24] <zleap> i was in #dclug on anoter sever
[18:24] <zleap> server
[18:24] <Technomancer> on mine ?
[18:24]  * Technomancer = Flash
[18:39] <zleap> ia m good
[18:39] <zleap> sorry playing with lego and stop motion
[18:40] <zleap> ah, i thought the name sounded familar
[19:48] <Seeker`> o/
[19:51] <mgdm> o/
[19:51] <Pendulum> hiya
[19:52] <popey> o/
[19:54] <AlanBell> \o
[19:54] <mgdm> How's everyone?
[19:55] <penguin421> full of apple crumble :-)
[19:56] <mgdm> a good way to be
[19:57] <penguin421> nod
[20:44]  * BigRedS has run out of cake :(
[20:51]  * mgdm has cake as his girlfriend just made some
[20:51]  * Laney has parkin for the same reason
[20:52] <mgdm> I believe that means I win an internet
[20:52] <mgdm> parkin?
[20:52] <Laney> cake made mainly from oatmeal + treacle
[20:54] <mgdm> ahh
[21:13] <zleap> hi all
[21:20] <BigRedS> Good morning!
[21:21] <BigRedS> Bug 1058073 has been annoying me all day, and I'm sure that were I more aesthetically inclined I'd know which theme to modify (or which theme to change) to fix it. Anyone got any suggestions?
[23:07] <bittin> i watched My Little Pony whole day :)
[23:08] <mgdm> You type well for an 8 year old!
[23:08] <bittin> :(
[23:13] <bootlkjkgf> AlanBell, You didn't miss much in the hangout .. it all turned politik eventually. Boring.
[23:26] <zleap> bittin, kids tv is wonderful eh
[23:53] <BigRedS> Kids TV redubbed in welsh is hilarious
[23:55] <shauno> I used to find padraig post oddly mesmerising
[23:57] <mgdm> Heh
[23:58] <mgdm> Now, there's a thing. Those were all made by the company I now work for (the Scottish Gaelic ones, I mean)
[23:58] <mgdm> I've been asking around for the tapes...
[23:59] <BigRedS> haha