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KrywkI can go on...00:00
JimmyNeutronActionParsnip: Let me try sudo fsck -y and see what happens.00:00
chaospsychexKrywk: how are you going to record playthroughs of those on ubuntu? your feeding the video/audio into the ubuntu comp ?00:00
KrywkI've already managed to record Afraid of Monsters, but just mic.00:00
Krywk:/00:00
KrywkI'm using WINE.00:01
chaospsychexKrywk: what's your youtube channel called?00:01
KrywkI haven't uploaded anything since I couldn't record the game's audio.00:01
ActionParsnipJimmyNeutron: you need to specify the partition to test00:01
KrywkSo it would be irrelevant to give you my channel name.00:02
usr13remu: On behalf of the server, "Flags [P.]" means data being "pushed" or sent.  Dono what to make of it other than the client is just not receiving or ....?00:02
chaospsychexKrywk: i could be talking to one of the big boys though...00:02
remuhmm, not sure00:02
Krywkchaospsychex, nope. I'm not famous and will not be anytime soon. :P00:02
JimmyNeutronActionParsnip: Ok.  Let me try that and see if Ubuntu GUI sees my partitions.  I'll let you know shortly.00:02
usr13remu: Just guessing ... kind of like talking but not listening...?00:02
chaospsychexKrywk: ok, do you have teamviewer ?00:03
KrywkYes, I do.00:03
remuright right, and that seems to make sense with what the log is saying00:03
remuthat theres no supported protocl00:03
KrywkAre you going to control my PC and see all my porn gallery? (?)00:04
chaospsychexKrywk: what's the program called you are using to modify the mixer settings? you said pavucontrol ?00:04
usr13remu: Well, I don't know, I dont really have much experience troubleshooting samba, I'm mostly done it by trial and error methods, (as I do most projects :)00:04
KrywkYep.00:04
remulol, thanks for your help usr13, i appreciate it.00:04
chaospsychexKrywk: one sec00:05
Krywkkk00:05
JimmyNeutronActionParsnip: DIdn't work.  Hmmm..let me just do a clean wipe of the entire HDD and come back in for a 2nd installation and see if I can see my partitions.00:06
usr13remu: Via process of elemination, it appears to be a client side issue, (but I guess we knew that already).  Not sure what to look for next, (as I'm not much of a MS-Windows expert).00:06
JimmyNeutronThanks for helping out ActionParsnip!00:06
usr13... not that I'm an expert of any sort ...00:06
remuusr13, i think it may have something to do with registry settings i may have changed to access the shares for work the other day. i think this router change/issue may just be coincidental00:07
Krywkremu, NOTHING is coincidental. The devil is inside the router. (?)00:07
remulol00:08
ActionParsnipJimmyNeutron: I try00:08
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johnjacobjingerhquestion... i have an existing directory (/var/lib/mythtv) i want to share as a samba directory... it's owned by Root (and cant be changed)00:10
johnjacobjingerhis it still possible to share this directory?00:11
KrywkTHANK you.00:11
johnjacobjingerhwhat permissions should it have so I can write to it00:11
Myi have question, is it possible to run a vmware esxi host on ubuntu ?00:11
johnjacobjingerhMy: vmware ESXi is it's own OS00:11
johnjacobjingerhso no00:11
johnjacobjingerhyou can run VMware server00:11
Myi want to do few testing00:12
johnjacobjingerhbut VMWare ESXi is literally it's very own OS and is a host OS00:12
Krywk.seen chaospsychex00:12
johnjacobjingerhMy then  u need a dedicated machine00:12
johnjacobjingerhor use vmware server00:12
Myjust running it on vmware workstation00:12
cnfor virtualbox00:12
yeatsor kvm00:12
johnjacobjingerhso u are running vmware esxi inside a virtual machine?00:12
bekksvmware server is outdated and unsupported - for years now.00:12
Myyep00:12
johnjacobjingerhbekks yes i know00:12
johnjacobjingerhMy that might be your only way but you're gonna have performance issues00:13
SantaClauseHello00:13
Myi have enough resource on my machine00:13
ActionParsnipbekks: bit of a sweeping statement00:14
johnjacobjingerhMy: it's not about your host so much as it is about the capabilities of vmware workstation and other vm products00:14
paulsomebodybekks: What are you trying to accomplish?00:14
cnfuhm00:14
bekksActionParsnip: Well, the vmware support for "vmware server" was dropped in July 2011.00:14
cnfesx without vg-x ...00:15
yeatsMy: I would personally use KVM if that's an option for you - it's free so if it's not acceptable, you're not out any money00:15
bekkspaulsomebody: Me? Nothing :) I was just commenting on johnjacobjingerh :)00:15
johnjacobjingerhyou MIGHT be ok, but you'll see better performance with a dedicated host00:15
cnfmay? o,O00:15
cnfESX needs bare metal00:15
johnjacobjingerhi still use vmware server00:15
bekkscnf: Which is not try - you can even virtualize an ESX host :)00:15
bekks*true00:15
johnjacobjingerhi am gonna be changing to ESXi tho00:16
cnfbekks: you can do a lot of things00:16
cnfbekks: doesn't mean it's a good idea in any shape or form00:16
bekkscnf: You it doesnt need bare metal, while it is designed to run on bare metal :)00:16
Myyeats: kvm support ESXI ?00:17
yeatsMy: no idea, sorry00:17
ActionParsnipbekks: oh yeah, just checked00:17
lstpswrdubuntu 11.04 need to recover passwrd, cant access recovery mody, tried restart several times holding shift and then trying exit, what else ? no disk, can i make one ?00:17
paulsomebodybkks: Uhhm, okay.00:17
tbruff13my graphics for kubuntu 12.10 look terrible can someone help me figureout what video driver I am running an help me change it to either the open-source radeon or flgrx00:17
ActionParsniptbruff13: what video chip do you use please?00:17
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Myjohnjacobjingerh : i wanna run esxi 5, i hope vmware server does not supports it00:17
johnjacobjingerhwhat?00:18
paulsomebodyAnyway, who was the person experiencing problems with VMware? I have gotten into that sick area recently, so I am sympathetic to your plight and might be able to help.00:18
johnjacobjingerhvmware server and ESXi are two different things00:18
IdleOne@bansearch Renski00:18
tbruff13ActionParsnip, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3200 Graphics00:18
johnjacobjingerhVMware ESXi is a bare bone OS00:18
johnjacobjingerhand is designed to be run as the host with no other OS00:18
tbruff13I know it sucks but it worked well enough in 12.0400:18
bekksESXi is a level 1 hypervisor.00:18
ubottuNo matches found for renski!~a@unaffiliated/renski in any channel00:18
johnjacobjingerhyes in technical terms what bekks says00:19
johnjacobjingerhvmware server requires a host OS to run00:19
johnjacobjingerhsuch as ubuntu00:19
AndresSM*was00:19
AndresSMit's dead now00:19
johnjacobjingerhwhat?00:19
johnjacobjingerhi didnt say is for vmware server00:19
johnjacobjingerhi just said it requires00:19
AndresSMbah had focus on wrong window don't mind me00:20
johnjacobjingerhi see00:20
Myhmmm00:20
johnjacobjingerhMy: you can run vmware esxi on virtualbox or vmware workstation or whatever virtualizing product you want to use00:20
lstpswrdpassword recovery ?00:20
tbruff13ActionParsnip, can you give me the command to so that the terminal will output what driver is currently in use00:21
cnfwhat do you even want to accomplish?00:21
johnjacobjingerhbut you wont see the same performance as you would on a dedicated host00:21
Jisawesome2When I try to restart apache, it says that it can not reliably determine the server's domain name00:21
paulsomebodylstpswrd: How did you get there?00:21
ActionParsniptbruff13: http://ubuntuxtreme.com/howto/how-to-fix-your-amd-graphics-in-ubuntu-12-10/   use the Makarewicz PPA00:21
johnjacobjingerhcnf: My wants to test VMware esxi00:21
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cnfjohnjacobjingerh: how about he answer?00:21
johnjacobjingerhwhat?00:21
paulsomebodylstpswrd: And, most importantly, is your partition encrypted?00:21
AndresSMjohnjacobjingerh: it's actually not that bad with VT enabled but nested vms are pretty slow...00:22
johnjacobjingerhAndreSM: exactly which means testing it wont be useful for him00:22
AndresSMjohnjacobjingerh: to do some lab work it's good enough00:22
ActionParsniptbruff13: seems to affect 2xxx to 4xxx inclusive00:22
johnjacobjingerhif he wants a good test he should use dedicated hardware... unless he's just learning how to set it up00:22
paulsomebodylstpswrd: If not, here is an excellent guide. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-forgotten-ubuntu-password-in-2-minutes-or-less/00:22
tbruff13ActionParsnip, thanks00:23
Jisawesome2When I try to restart apache, it says that it can not reliably determine the server's domain name00:23
johnjacobjingerhbut not if he is trying to test it's performance00:23
paulsomebodylstpswrd: If it is encrypted, you are screwed.00:23
johnjacobjingerhJisawesome2, that's normakl00:23
johnjacobjingerhnormal*00:23
Jisawesome2oh, it is?00:23
paulsomebodylstpswrd: Unless, of course you have wrote down or stored somewhere the passphrase.00:23
johnjacobjingerhit's cuz you probably dont have a FQDNS00:23
paulsomebodylstpswrd: Which you should do.00:23
lstpswrdnot sure if encrypted, helping a friend who forgot psswrd been long time since using system00:23
Myjohnjacobjingerh: i am planning to set ahome lab for studying00:23
Jisawesome2I have no idea what that is00:23
johnjacobjingerh(fully qualified domain name)... you access the PC by either computer name or IP i assume Jisawesome200:23
lstpswrdi will try whatever is offered though, thank you00:23
PryMaL1kjgkjggkj00:23
AndresSMMy: it works fine if guest performance is not an issue00:24
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tbruff13ActionParsnip, will this ppa make any other system updates unstable and how will i stop the system from trying to update x in the future00:24
AndresSMMy: a lab is most likely about configuration, etc and in that scenario it's good enough inside VMware workstation00:24
johnjacobjingerhMy: but do you want  the most out of the Guest performance00:24
Jisawesome2ip, you are correct00:24
Jisawesome2cDoes it still update?00:24
johnjacobjingerhyea what AndresSM said00:24
johnjacobjingerhlstpswrd, what OS?00:25
ActionParsniptbruff13: should be fine, its a known issue00:25
johnjacobjingerhlstpswrd, is he using Ubuntu?00:25
tbruff13ActionParsnip, bottom line my laptop is a pos and i need a new one00:25
tbruff13but alas no money00:25
lstpswrdhe is using ubuntu yes00:26
paulsomebodylstpswrd: If he does not have an idea, then it is probably not encypted.00:26
johnjacobjingerhlstpswrd, i cant exactly remember how do it from the CD, but you can do it from single-user mode00:26
johnjacobjingerhpaulsomebody, that's not true00:26
KrywkIs there any program that reproduces what you're speaking on your phone?00:26
Krywkmicrophone*00:26
lstpswrdits not allowing me to access the recovery after the grub screen, im not even seeing grub screen00:26
Jisawesome2Dragon dictation00:26
My johnjacobjingerh: my hardwae is of i5 cpu & 8gb ddr3 ram, it good enough to run 2 esxi host of 2 gb ram and vcenter server of 1gb ram, all the vm runs with 2 vcpu :)00:26
KrywkI mean, live.00:26
cnfmy: 2 ESX hosts?00:27
johnjacobjingerhMy: but you're missing the fact that you have an overhead00:27
cnfMy: why?00:27
Myit worked well with windows7 on vmware workstation00:27
johnjacobjingerhwell then you got your answer :-P00:27
paulsomebodyjohnjacobjingerh: lstpswrd: It is my feeling that people who have no idea are usually too lazy to enter password every time they login.00:27
johnjacobjingerhwhat?00:27
johnjacobjingerhhow does that mean his drive is encrypted?00:27
johnjacobjingerhit most likely isnt encrypted00:28
johnjacobjingerhunless he encrypted it00:28
paulsomebodyjohnjacobjingerh: That WAS the point.00:28
Mycnf: 2 esxi for making a HA & DRS cluster00:28
cnfo,O00:28
lstpswrdpersonally i use a set of passwords that i know well. i have the instructions on how to reset the password but i cant get into the recovery screen00:28
* cnf facepalms00:28
johnjacobjingerhoh i missed what you were saying paulsomebody00:28
AndresSMcnf: it's a basic lab not huge00:28
AndresSMMy: you should be fine00:29
johnjacobjingerhlstpswrd, is ubuntu the ONLY os on that machine?00:29
lstpswrdi have held the escape key during reboot, i tried the shift key, i tried from restart mode and from total shutdown mode00:29
lstpswrdyes it it, i asked him that00:29
MyAndresSM: yep let me check it out :)00:29
Mythank you all00:29
johnjacobjingerhhmmm00:29
johnjacobjingerhshift should do it00:29
KrywkUh, hello?00:29
johnjacobjingerhre you holding it down from the begining00:30
KrywkI need a program that reproduces what you're saying, live.00:30
lstpswrdsorry everyone, paul should i pm in seperate window about this if your willing to help00:30
lstpswrdi tried shift00:30
johnjacobjingerhKryk: Audacity00:30
lstpswrdholding from beginning, then tapping it00:30
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paulsomebodyYeah, go ahead and PM me.00:30
lstpswrdtried both shift keys00:30
KrywkAudacity reproduces on-the-fly?00:30
johnjacobjingerhhmmmm....00:30
KrywkAlso you can just type in Kry and press Tab.00:31
johnjacobjingerhKrywk, yes if you enable the monitor00:31
johnjacobjingerhit will play back as you're speaking00:31
KrywkWell, that didn't work.00:31
johnjacobjingerhwhat do u mean it didnt work?00:32
johnjacobjingerhare u sure your mic works then?00:32
KrywkI mean, I want to record system audio AND mic audio.00:32
KrywkBut it just plainly doesn't detect my mic.00:32
KrywkI have to enable it.00:32
KrywkBut that will disable system audio recording.00:32
KrywkI want both.00:32
Krywk:/00:32
FloodBot1Krywk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:32
KrywkWhoops. :/00:32
johnjacobjingerhkrywk can u add a secnd track in audacity and bond it to the microphone in put00:33
johnjacobjingerhinput*00:33
johnjacobjingerhsecond*00:33
KrywkI think, yea00:33
johnjacobjingerhthen perhaps that will work00:33
johnjacobjingerhit can record two tracks at once00:33
johnjacobjingerhi've never recorded system sound with audacity00:34
KrywkIt doesn't detect audio00:34
KrywkWait00:35
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Linkandzeldais it possible to use 2 docks on 12.10 or to completly disable the unity dock and use a different dock?00:38
_MrSeb_someone expert in loop device? I need to shrink to min size a file with ext3 file system inside; alnerady mounted file as loop, used resize2fs -M, but I don't know how to shrink container file...00:39
KrywkIt only lets me record a few miliseconds.00:40
Krywkthen it stops.00:40
Krywk:/00:40
GridCube!info xterm00:41
ubottuxterm (source: xterm): X terminal emulator. In component main, is optional. Version 278-1ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 562 kB, installed size 1398 kB00:41
GridCubeis optional00:41
Krywkjohnjacobjingerh00:41
johnjacobjingerhyes?00:42
johnjacobjingerhi dunno why it doesnt work Krywk00:43
johnjacobjingerhsounds like an issue with audacity00:43
myersghow to I set file limites to users on ubuntu server00:44
ActionParsnipGrimdin: its in a default install though00:44
myersgI only want the users to access there home dir, and thats it.00:44
ActionParsnipmyersg: look into quotas00:44
myersgcan you help me do that?00:45
ActionParsnipmyersg: oh, then just chmod the home folder to a-rwx   and you are golden00:45
myersgcan you give an example?00:45
ActionParsnipmyersg: this means that only the user whom owns the folder can access the data00:45
litt3lboyHello sexy boys00:45
ActionParsnipmyersg: they will need read access and sometimes execute access to the rest of the OS so that it can use apps00:46
myersgso how do I do it?00:46
ActionParsnipmyersg: sudo chmod -R o-rwx /home/username00:46
myersgso what will that do?00:47
myersgnow it can't add files to the users file?00:48
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myersgI think it works now, thank you.00:49
ActionParsnipmyersg: only the owner of the folder (and root, and users whom can use sudo) will have access to the folder in any way, they will not even be able to access the folder to see the files themselves00:49
nabamheyh, has anybody gotten the error "Secure boot not enabled" when trying to boot from 12.10 on a newer i5 laptop?  Mine specifically is the acer travel mate00:50
myersghow do I make it to were that user cannot have sudo?00:50
blackshirtmyserg, i think you very paranoid people :d00:51
ZigzagHello!00:52
Zigzagcan I please get help?00:52
Zigzaghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1330696/ what is wrong witht his00:52
Zigzagwith*00:52
myersgI know the people that will use it.. trust me, they will mess it up if I don't block them from files. I.E, keep them in there box.00:52
FloodBot1Zigzag: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:52
myersghow can I make it that a user cant use sudo?00:53
fffffdon't add the user to wheel group, maybe?00:54
jo-BrHi guys00:54
stef0hi =)00:55
ActionParsnipmyersg: don't add them to the sudo group, or admin00:55
Linkandzeldahow can I set the transparency of the window decorations in 12.10?00:55
myersghow do I remove them from it?00:55
nabammyersg, who's in your wheel group?00:55
myersgidk00:55
nabamtype groups in terminal00:55
ActionParsnipmyersg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/80115/how-to-remove-a-user-from-a-group00:55
myersgit says root00:56
nabamsorry, I was confused, follow ActionParsnip's link00:56
ActionParsnipmyersg: then you need to run:  groups name00:56
bandit-ledi keep loosing my usb kyb and mouse and have to hard reset or ssh in and restart to get them to work again00:56
bandit-ledany ideas?00:57
ZigzagHM00:57
ZigzagHmm well I posted my link guys http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330696/ ideas?00:57
Robbiliehey guys is jono bacon travelling around here? :)00:59
jonohey Robbilie00:59
Robbilie:D00:59
Robbiliejust sent you an email ;)01:00
Robbilie:D01:00
Robbilierschuh01:00
myersgalso, I need to know, but first is there anyone here from the u.s here?01:00
Robbilienope01:00
Robbiliegermany...01:00
jonoRobbilie, np01:00
JohnnyBoyim using ubuntu 12.10 32bit, google earth crashes on me and so does braid the video game01:00
myersgI need to know do clocks go back tonight?01:00
myersgSo, I can change my time on ubuntu01:00
teffhas anyone experienced a nasty inverted screen installing 12.10 64 bit on a dekstop with an nvidia card?01:00
Robbilieon a pc in school i have a strange problem when you start talkling bout screens..01:01
ActionParsnipJohnnyBoy: what video chip do you use?01:01
JohnnyBoyit must be an ati im not sure01:01
Robbiliejono if you want you can answer my mail here in irc ;)01:02
ActionParsnipJohnnyBoy: sudo lshw -C display     will tell you01:02
jonoRobbilie, I will respond next week01:02
jonoI am a bit busy right now01:02
Robbiliesure ;)01:02
Robbiliealways wondering how i am able to get that fast in contact with that famous/busy people :D01:03
JohnnyBoyActionParsnip:  PCI (sysfs)01:03
JohnnyBoyi know i have an ati raedeon01:03
inflexHave a system about 150km away, upgraded from 12.04 -> 12.10.  Was running Cinnamon before and doing fine.  Now when it boots to the lightdm login screen it comes up but you cannot interact, no clicks work.  ctrl-alt-Fn works and you can fire up startx with it, but the normal desktop isn't there (likely because of the lack of the cinnamon wm)01:03
inflexAnyhow, how can I try install/reinstall the lightdm situation so it actually works and lets me login normally?01:03
ActionParsnipJohnnyBoy: wait, it will say. Your PCI bus is slow01:04
Linkandzeldahow do i restart nautilus?01:05
JohnnyBoy <ActionParsnip>  i get alot of lines...heres one line  product: RS880 [Radeon HD 4200]01:05
RobbilieLinkandselde kill it and start it ? :D01:06
RobbilieLinkandzelda kill it and start it?01:06
bandit-ledkillall nautilus01:06
Robbilie:D01:06
Robbiliepkill would work too i guess...?01:06
JohnnyBoyActionParsnip:  heres the pastebin  http://pastebin.com/2hqDwvFi01:06
LinkandzeldaRobbilie: thanks, did that but what i needed to do it for failed01:06
Linkandzeldaim trying to make my window titles transparent01:06
Robbiliewhat are you trying to achieve?01:07
bandit-ledLinkandzelda,  killall nautilus01:07
Robbilieah01:07
ActionParsnipJohnnyBoy: what is the product line please, I can't view pastebins using the connection I have01:08
Zigzaghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1330696/01:08
ZigzagHello01:08
blackshirthello zigzag01:09
Zigzagblackshirt so what do I do?01:09
Robbilieguys i have an issue, i guess its quite simple...01:09
JohnnyBoyActionParsnip: product: RS880 [Radeon HD 4200]01:09
ZigzagI have never seen the p4p101:09
Robbiliei had a setup with two screen (nvidia graphics and now i removed one screen01:09
Zigzagblackshirt its pretty easy before I did eth0 and eth1 but, its not there01:09
blackshirtzigzag,i'm sit on handheld devices and couldn't follow your link given,maybe describe your problem here01:10
ActionParsnipJohnnyBoy: under Ubuntu 12.10?01:10
Robbilienow the cursor is limited to vertical movement and it seems that it didnt recognize the second screen missing..01:10
Zigzag# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system01:10
Zigzag# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).01:10
Zigzag# The loopback network interface01:10
JohnnyBoyyes sir ActionParsnip01:10
Zigzagauto lo01:10
Zigzagiface lo inet loopback01:10
FloodBot1Zigzag: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:10
Zigzag# The primary network interface01:10
ActionParsnipJohnnyBoy: http://ubuntuxtreme.com/howto/how-to-fix-your-amd-graphics-in-ubuntu-12-10/  use the Makarewicz PPA in the middle of the page01:11
ActionParsnipJohnnyBoy: http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/01:12
draugonHello, I'm installing 12.10, I created partitions and then installed, and everything seems to install fine, until the installer tries to install grub. I get 'Sorry, an error occurred and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location" so I opened up a terminal and try sudo grub-install /dev/mapper/isw_dcibhdjcae_raid2tb and I get "Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible.01:12
draugonAborting." I have two 1tb drives setup with fakeraid and am installing alongside windows. not sure where to go from here.01:12
jribdraugon: first step is to checksum your cd01:13
toastcfh might just quit01:13
JohnnyBoythank you ActionParsnip that was fast01:14
draugonjrib: k, I'll let you know01:14
ActionParsnipJohnnyBoy: i've seen the issue a lot in here so I know what to search for01:14
jribdraugon: if you're confident it's just grub failing to install for whatever reason, you need to pass --boot-directory to grub-install (since /boot/grub is for the live cd)01:14
draugonjrib: md5sum matches the cd, and I verified the cd when I burned it.01:16
JohnnyBoyActionParsnip: wont doing all this ruin future upgrade to fglrx and xorg01:17
draugonjrib: md5sum matches the cd IMAGE I mean01:17
draugonjrib: ah, ok, so I mount the drive and pass the --boot-directory to the mounted location... ok. Thanks I'll let you know how it goes. :)01:17
jribdraugon: also see notes here about raid: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop01:19
JohnnyBoyActionParsnip: ima reboot and see how things go thanks01:19
cornellCan anyone at least tell me what the windows popping about "feature" is called?01:21
draugonjrib: aha, install worked after I mounted and passed the --boot-directory flag to grub-install. gonna see if it boots up. If it does I probably won't be back. Thanks a ton for your help :)01:21
jribdraugon: hope I don't see you then :)01:22
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tomreyncornell: what are you referring to (i'm lacking backlog)?01:24
TheLordOfTimetomreyn:  i don't see any other backlogs relating to this, btw.  just to let you know.01:25
tomreynthanks01:25
cornelltomreyn: I've upgraded from 10 to 12.04 and was sorely unhappy with Unity and am using Gnome Classic.  Windows tend to pop around.  When I shift a window partly onto another workspace and click on something else, the window pops back.  Some applications, the window pops down to the bottom of the screen for no apparent reason.  And if I drag a window to close to the top, it's resized to full height, top to bottom (and it's a bit hard to01:28
cornell(2 hours 12 minutes ago, I'd mentioned the same stuff)01:29
tomreyncornell: this was cut iff behind: (and it's a bit hard t01:29
Linkandzeldaanyone got experieince reading and browsing time machine backups?01:29
cornelltomreyn: "tomreyn: cornell: this was cut iff behind: (and it's a bit hard t" ?01:30
tomreyncornell: i've never tried gnome classic on 12.04, though, so chances are i won't be able to help other than suggesting you file bug reports.01:30
tomreyncornell: yes that's what i just said to you01:31
cornellI'd like to be able to describe it more tersely, perhaps refer to it by name.01:31
Jordan_Ujrib: I need to leave, but if draugon comes back saying that they only got a grub prompt at boot, can you explain to them that they need to pass the path to the /boot/ directory to grub-install's --boot-directory argument (eg if they mounted their root filesystem at /mnt/ it should be --boot-directory=/mnt/boot/ not just --boot-directory=/mnt/).01:31
cornellYes, tomreyn, and "this was cut iff behind: (and it's a bit hard t" makes no sense to me.01:32
jribJordan_U: will do01:32
Jordan_Ujrib: Thanks.01:32
cornellWas it truncated, or ... something?01:32
tomreyncornell: yes, what you wrote when quoting yourself from earlier today was truncated01:32
Jordan_Ujrib: They may also need to chroot in and run update-grub if the installer didn't create a grub.cfg before it failed.01:33
cornellWell, I didn't quote myself, just typed again.01:33
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tomreyncornell: okay, but this is still incomplete then:  "And if I drag a window to close to the top, it's resized to full height, top to bottom (and it's a bit hard t"01:34
cornellAnd I'm guessing that it's not a bug but someone's idea of a "feature".  Especially the bit about resizing the window.01:34
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cornellAh...  If I drag a window to close to the top, it's resized to full height, top to bottom (and it's a bit hard to undo).01:34
tomreyncornell: i guess your best bet is to run ubuntu-bug on the package you suspect may be buggy, then add a descrition of the problem first, then re-read what you wrote for the long description and summarise it as the bug reports' title01:35
cornellVery similar to a new feature in Windows 7.  The assumption that if you have the top of a window at the top of the screen, you must also want the bottom at the bottom.01:35
cornellThe package woud be ... gnome-shell ?01:36
cornellPardon me while I figure out about ubuntu-bug.01:37
tomreyncornell: actually now your description is complete it sounds more like you'Re running into a design choice you don't like. this may not make sense to report as a bug then,01:37
ActionParsnipcornell: if you want to report a bug with gnome-shell run:  ubuntu-bug gnome-shell01:37
cornellI'm hoping it's a "design choice" that I can unchoose ;-)01:38
tomreyni wouldn't know. you can try with a wishlist bug01:39
ActionParsnipcornell: disable the grid plugin and the 'aero snap' feature will turn off, is that what you are having issue with?01:39
cornellmmm... aero snap... sounds like that could be it, ActionParsnip.  How to disable the grid plugin?01:40
ActionParsnipcornell: run:   ccsm   and disable it01:40
MedjaiI know when ubuntu is installed clean-ubiquity runs and saves a copy of the MBR, where is that saved?01:40
cornellHaving a good time tonight... "The program 'ccsm' is currently not installed."  It also seems to be a part of compiz.  Is compiz part of 12.04, or gnome-shell?  I don't recall installing it.01:43
ja-sI have a filesystem in my /etc/fstab with the option "users", but a user can no longer mount it, it requires root01:45
ActionParsnipcornell: it needs installing but you can disable the feature there. I hate it01:45
ja-swhy is that?01:46
ActionParsnipja-s: isn't the option: user    not users01:47
tomreynyes singular01:47
ActionParsnipja-s: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html01:47
ActionParsnipja-s: so that's why ;)01:47
tomreynbut IIRC there is some file system which has 'users' (pl.) as a filesystem specific option01:48
tomreynmount(8) The non-superuser mounts. "Only the user  that  mounted  a filesystem  can unmount it again.  If any user should be able to unmount, then use users instead of user in the fstab line."01:50
johnjacobjingerwhy is it that when i use Youtube in ubuntu the mouse doesnt disappear but in my windows machine it does01:50
johnjacobjingersomething to do with the flash player?01:50
Linkandzeldadoes everyone here use Unity with the launcher on the left? or are you using some other setup?01:51
cornellIn ccsm, I filtered for "grid plugin", no hit.  Filtered for "grid" and got one hit, "Grid" oddly enough.  The alternate text says "Warp and resize windows to fit an imaginary grid".01:51
cornellThat certainly sounds like it, right?01:51
johnjacobjingerLinkandzelda, i hate unity... i just use classic gnome01:51
cornellI second that johnjacobjinger01:52
PatrickC|Cleaninif I'm going to be installing Ubuntu alongside of Windows, does the installer disk still include the option to resize the Windows partitoiin?01:52
PatrickC|Cleaninpartition*01:52
PatrickC|Cleaninor should i resize it manually within windows01:52
Linkandzeldajohnjacobjinger: is that so, i like the dash thing on Unity quite a bit...01:52
johnjacobjingerPatrickC|Cleanin, i think it's dynamic01:52
PatrickC|Cleaninjohnjacobjinger: so i should be able to just use the installation media (live DVD) to do it?01:52
johnjacobjingerLinkandzelda, well it gets in the way of mythtv and i use mythtv01:52
johnjacobjingerumm no PatrickC|Cleanin ...01:53
johnjacobjingerit doesnt partition it01:53
johnjacobjingerit just creates a folder on your windows drive called ubuntu01:53
johnjacobjingerand somehow it boots from that01:53
PatrickC|CleaninNa, i don't want to do that.01:53
PatrickC|CleaninThat's WUBI :)01:53
johnjacobjingerit's like a viertual HardDrive01:53
johnjacobjingeroh01:53
johnjacobjingeri see01:53
FloodBot1johnjacobjinger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:53
PatrickC|CleaninI want to do a true dualboot01:53
johnjacobjingeryes u can resize if you use the installation DVD (has gparted on the disk)01:54
Jordan_UPatrickC|Cleanin: Yes, just run the installer and let it resize the Windows partition for you.01:54
johnjacobjingeru can do it from the live cd01:54
PatrickC|Cleaninthanks Jordan_U01:54
Jordan_UPatrickC|Cleanin: You're welcome.01:54
tomreyndoes gparted support resizing ntfs partitions then?01:55
cornellmmm, in Window Management, there's a "Snapping Windows", tip says "Enables windows edges resistance".  I wonder what "edges resistance" is.01:55
Linkandzeldajohnjacobjinger: is it possible to run 2 docks at the same time?01:55
tomreynthat's ntfs of all versions of windows01:55
bandit-ledtomreyn, yes01:55
tomreyni meant to say file systems, not partitions01:55
bandit-ledtomreyn,  but always backup first01:55
johnjacobjingerLinkandzelda, beats me like i said I dont use unity01:55
ActionParsnipja-s: all ok now?01:56
johnjacobjingeri only use classic01:56
Linkandzeldajohnjacobjinger: hmm ok then01:56
ActionParsniptomreyn: you can resize ntfs in gparted, if you use Win7 I'd do it in WIn701:56
bandit-ledLinkandzelda, what you trying to do?01:56
johnjacobjingeri hate windows disk management01:57
tomreynActionParsnip: i don't use windows, i was wondering whether it's possible because someone lelse wanted to know.01:57
johnjacobjingerannoying01:57
iamzimHey, quick question! I want to join an ubuntu desktop client to an Active directory server, should i go the Likewise-open route or is there a better way of going about it (samba + winbind?)01:57
tomreynthis someone else was PatrickC|Cleanin01:57
Linkandzeldabandit-led: not sure, i just wanted initially to move the unity dock to the bottom... but im wondering if that isnt possible if i can use 2 docks, like have AWN installed as well, if that makes sense lol01:57
ActionParsniptomreyn: gotcha01:58
johnjacobjingeri use winbind for that iamzim01:58
johnjacobjingerwith samba01:58
bandit-ledLinkandzelda,  you might want to try gnome classic for what you are talking about01:58
johnjacobjingeri've never heard of likewise01:58
Linkandzeldabandit-led: is it better than gnome 3.6?01:58
bandit-ledit is gnome 3.601:58
johnjacobjingerit just doesnt have unity01:58
johnjacobjingerunity is annoying as hell imo01:58
bandit-ledits like old gnome01:58
iamzimjohnjacobjinger: ok cool, so does it allow for gui login aswell?01:58
bandit-ledi use only gnome-classic so its what i like01:59
bandit-ledwell on live systems i use unity but thats not often01:59
Predictabilityhi01:59
iamzimjohnjacobjinger: it seems to be a much simpler way of joining an domain01:59
johnjacobjingeriamzim: yes....01:59
johnjacobjingerthats the point01:59
Predictabilitya domain*01:59
Linkandzeldabandit-led: i see, might have to look into trying that out02:00
iamzimjohnjacobjinger: righto, just checking ;)02:00
bandit-ledLinkandzelda, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed02:00
iamzimPredictability: thanks :p02:00
bandit-ledyou can install it and choose what window manager you want on login02:00
ActionParsnipLinkandzelda: just install gnome-panel log off and log in to the new session02:00
Predictabilityyour welcome :D02:01
bandit-ledtry them all and pick the one you want02:01
Predictabilityis this a reddit cat?02:01
Predictabilitychat*02:01
Predictabilitybut a cat is fine02:01
johnjacobjingerPredictability, ummm no.. this is a ubuntu support channel02:01
rephy222its kinda ridiculous how many dependencies there are just for a simple clock02:01
Predictabilityoh, sorry.  i came here because /r/ubuntu gave a link, i thought this was a reddit chat02:01
Predictabilitysorry!02:01
mjc_nps02:02
johnjacobjingerPredictability, if you dont have a ubuntu related question or if you arent here to offer ubuntu support then this isnt where you want to be02:02
bandit-ledpred left above your statement johnjacobjinger02:03
johnjacobjingeroh haha02:03
johnjacobjingermissed that completely02:03
net_runner007hey does anyone know how to make VLC play my dvds?02:03
johnjacobjingernet_runner007, Yes...02:03
Jordan_U!dvd | net_runner00702:03
ubottunet_runner007: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:03
net_runner007thanks yall02:04
johnjacobjingerclick the "media" menu item and click open disc02:04
ActionParsniprephy222: what clock are you getting?02:04
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tomreynor4n: vlc dvd://02:04
rephy222the basic one that comes with ubuntu02:05
tomreynumm sorry or4n, i hit a nasty tab expansion bug in xchat there02:05
rephy222autoremove removed it for some reason02:05
ActionParsniprephy222: well it is an indicator, so you'll need all the indicator goodies02:05
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Linkandzeldabandit-led: I'm worried that something might mess up if i switch lol02:06
rephy222ic02:06
johnjacobjingerLinkandzelda, no u wont mess it up02:06
rephy222i reinstalled it but i dont c it02:06
johnjacobjingerLinkandzelda, u can always go back by selecting it in the login menu02:06
myersgI tried to boot into ubuntu, but it took me to this: BusyBox v1.18.5 (Ubuntu 1:1.18.5) built in shell ash Enter 'help for a list of built0in commands02:07
johnjacobjingerit doesnt remove unity just adds gnome classic to the session menu02:07
Linkandzeldahmm02:07
bandit-ledbeen using it since gnome 3 came out with no problems02:07
bandit-ledi am using it right now as a matter of fact02:08
myersgwhat do I do?02:08
rephy222for some reason i cant get it to show up in the menu bar02:08
puffI'm troubleshooting an ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS box, it's got the whole thin client thing going on, has four extra screens attached.02:08
puffWhen it reboots, it doesn't get on the network. If I log into one of the terminals, su to this admin account they setup (has sudo privs) and do "sudo dhclient eth2", it gets right on the network and everything works fine.02:09
puffNow, I could just write out the instructions for the linux-illiterate folks to do this when I'm not here, but I'd rather fix the problem... any ideas?02:09
tomreynmyersg: that's usually because your root file system (the one which should get mounted to / ) could not be mounted. this can happen for various reasons, here's what comes to mind: an ubuntu installation failed/is incomplete, the file system is broken, your raid is out of synch.02:10
johnjacobjingernow so it's not getting IP at startup?02:10
johnjacobjingerpuff: err... i assume it's  not getting an ip on startup?02:10
puffjohnjacobjinger: Yes, that's what appears to be the case.02:11
myersgThis happends every time i try to install ubuntu or anyother linux os on the computer02:11
rephy222so is the residual config stuff supposed to be installed02:11
myersgoh wait, This harddrive came out of another computer with ubuntu working fine, I put it on this computer and it does it still...02:12
myersgI know the installation is fine02:12
johnjacobjingerpuff: does your network config have this for eth2:   auto eth202:12
johnjacobjingeriface eth2 inet dhcp02:12
puffjohnjacobjinger: Doesn't have anyhting for eth2.02:13
johnjacobjingerthen that might be the issue02:13
puffjohnjacobjinger: /etc/network/interfaces contains "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback"02:13
tomreynmyersg: so its failing since you added this drive?02:13
johnjacobjingerthen u have to create one for eth202:13
puffWeird, supposedly this was all working and the problem just started this morning.02:13
wallythemooseQuestion: I replaced a raid array in windows with a 3tb seagate hard drive, since Ubuntu was not playing well with the software raid. Normally Ubuntu would see an NTFS partition fine, but when I copied the data over to the new 3tb drive in windows, I had to initialize the drive as GPT, instead of MBR. As a result, Ubuntu fails to see a 3tb (more like 2.7tb) NTFS partition, it shows as unallocated. Is there any trick to getting02:13
johnjacobjingerperhaps it changed?02:13
myersg...its not the harddrive, I took it out of another computer and it worked fine before, I was testing to see if it was the hard drive it is not02:13
puffjohnjacobjinger: Is there anywhere else to look, other than /etc/network/interfaces?>02:14
johnjacobjingerno02:14
myersganytime I try to install linux on the computer it does this..no mater what02:14
johnjacobjingerthats where it would be02:14
puffjohnjacobjinger: Hm, well, nothing /etc/network has a recent modificaiton date. However, dmesg has some interesting bits. Hangon.02:14
Jordan_Uwallythemoose: The problem is that it's using GPT (Ubuntu supports GPT just fine) the problem is that the partition table is invalid.02:14
Jordan_Uwallythemoose: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".02:14
johnjacobjingerpuff try to put the eth2 config in there just to see if it works02:15
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johnjacobjingerif it doesnt u can always remove it02:15
myersgcould the graphics do this, I install ubuntu server and it works fine on the computer02:15
puffjohnjacobjinger: http://pastebin.com/b6P3EwEP02:15
puffjohnjacobjinger: I don't get what's up with that renaming eth0 to eth2...02:16
puffjohnjacobjinger: Cool, will try adding an eth2 config line.02:16
johnjacobjingerpuff: look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules02:17
johnjacobjingertell me what the mac address is for eth202:17
johnjacobjingerand eth002:17
Linkandzeldais there a way I can enable writing to hfs+ drives?02:17
wallythemooseJordan_U: pastebin.com/P6P6QQgr02:17
Jordan_ULinkandzelda: Only by disabling journaling on the filesystem.02:17
johnjacobjingeris eth0 the MAC for ETH2?02:17
LinkandzeldaJordan_U: I have a HFS+ drive, how can I do that? without losing data as well? xD02:18
puffjohnjacobjinger: Checking.02:18
stormdeadhi02:18
puffjohnjacobjinger: No, they have different ATTR{address} values.02:18
stormdeadim having some troubles with my laptop, I'm getting permission denied errors when I start up02:18
Jordan_Uwallythemoose: Note there the error "Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!" which means that one of your disks has an entry in the partition table saying that a partition ends past the actual end of the disk.02:19
puffjohnjacobjinger: http://pastebin.com/UFgx637302:19
wallythemooseJordan_U: Is it possible that windows did not create the partition table correctly and I should do it from gparted instead?02:20
Jordan_Uwallythemoose: I've been seeing a lot of those recently, but I have no idea what tool is doing such a silly thing. Do you have any idea how your partition table might have become invalid in this way? Did you use any odd partitioning tools?02:20
barcodeIs there anything I can set in ubuntu which will force my cpu to work slower so it doesn't heat up as much?02:20
wallythemooseJordan_U: I used windows 7 built in partition manager02:20
barcodeI want to keep the temprature down.02:20
wallythemooseIt needed GPT for anything over 2tb02:20
stormdeadwhenever i try to turn on my laptop, i get these error messages: http://pastebin.com/jAQ4SK9302:21
stormdeadcan anyone help?02:21
barcodecan anyone help?02:21
Jordan_Uwallythemoose: Very odd and surprising then. The utility "fixparts" should fix your partition table for you: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/02:21
stormdeadis there any way to fix this without reinstalling?02:22
wallythemooseJordan_U: thanks, I will try that.02:22
Jordan_Uwallythemoose: You're welcome.02:22
ActionParsnipbarcode: try a lighter desktop like LXDE :)02:23
stormdeadsorry about that02:23
johnjacobjingerpuff try to add what i said to the network config file02:24
johnjacobjingerand restart networking02:24
barcodeActionParsnip: okay.02:24
johnjacobjingerthen see if it works02:24
johnjacobjingerjust out of curiosity02:24
puffjohnjacobjinger: Okay, cool.02:24
puffjohnjacobjinger: Didn't fix it.02:26
johnjacobjingerpuff i dunno then :-(02:27
johnjacobjingersorry02:27
johnjacobjingerboth of those files look right02:27
puffjohnjacobjinger: Okay... weird.02:27
johnjacobjingerpuff is this a PXE server?02:28
puffjohnjacobjinger: hm, is there any way I can schedule a cron job to run dhclient?02:28
puffPXE?02:28
johnjacobjingerthen prob not02:28
johnjacobjingeri thought u said  it was a thin client02:28
johnjacobjingeror u were using thin clients02:28
johnjacobjingeryes there prob is a way to use cronjob to run dhclient02:29
LinkandzeldaActionParsnip: what should I do after installing gnome-panel?02:29
johnjacobjingeralso puff try to determine if eth2 is indeed the correct mac address and it's not attaching to a different card02:30
puffWell, I have four ACER lcd screens that apepar to be self-contained (presumably lightweight) PCs.02:30
johnjacobjingerpuff do they have OSes installed on each? or do they boot from a server?02:30
puffWell, when I reboot the server they all turn off and when it comes back on, they all turn back on and present a login screen.02:31
ActionParsnipLinkandzelda: log off then select the new session from the ubuntu logo near your usernae02:31
blendedbychrishas java jre been removed from the partner repo?02:32
ActionParsnipblendedbychris: yes but there is a PPA if you want Oracle Java....02:32
blendedbychrisActionParsnip: okay no problem. i was just making sure i wasn't using a ppa if it was in partner02:33
puffjohnjacobjinger: I'm not sure I get the question about eth2... dhclient is getting a connection for eth2.02:33
ActionParsnipblendedbychris: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html02:33
johnjacobjingeryea but after it renames02:33
johnjacobjingerpuff i want to make sure the MAC address in that rules file is correct02:33
puffHm, hang on a sec.02:34
johnjacobjingeror if eth0 has the MAC for eth 2 instead of what it should be02:34
johnjacobjingeri dunno if you can tell tho02:34
johnjacobjingerwithout looking at your network switch or something02:34
memeticI get unknown command linux16 when attempting to run memtestx86 from grub.02:34
memeticWhat's that all about?02:34
johnjacobjingerit doesnt know the command02:34
johnjacobjingerthats what it's about02:34
cornellWell, I was in the midst of investigating ccsm window management.  Found a site that suggested, instead of unchecking grid, going into it and setting the auto resize actions to None.  I was in the midst of that when things froze.  Couldn't get any response.  Tried ctl-alt-delete, ctl-prtscn-k and super-.... something.  Anyway nothing appeared to happen, so I stepped away.02:35
memeticHow to fix?02:35
johnjacobjingerthats about as far as my expertise goes memetic02:35
johnjacobjingersorry02:35
memeticYeah, well, my question was more a thinly veiled rant about how that happens in the first place so we're both good, john.02:35
johnjacobjingerbrb Puff02:36
memeticsmokey smokey cancer02:36
cornellWhen I returned, it was shutting down.  It had stopped to ask if I wanted to save a document.  I did and allowed it to continue... Then I got a blank monitor and a lot of hard drive activity.  Now, a blank monitor and the computer is on, and apparently not doing anything.02:36
cornell(I'm now on my laptop, to chat)02:36
wallythemoosememetic: linux16 is only available on x86 systems... you're not by chance trying that on 64 bit are you?02:37
memeticYes, I sure am!02:37
LinkandzeldaActionParsnip: this looks like backtrack 5 now lol02:37
wallythemooseThat would be it. I guess like 16 bit works on 32, but not 6402:37
Linkandzeldabut also similar to how it looked with unity, just without the dock02:38
cornellAh, finally got a response, it came up to the logon page02:38
memeticSo, how would I fix that problem on my system, wallythemoose?  If I wanted to just run memtest from grub, instead of from cd or whatever.02:38
wallythemoosememetic: Do you have 32 bit ubuntu installed instead of 64 by chance?02:39
memeticI don't.02:39
ActionParsnipLinkandzelda: its one way to get the old gnome look, there are 3rd party (unsupported) forks of Gnome2 in the form of Mate or Cinammon02:39
LinkandzeldaActionParsnip: I see, first thing I noticed is my sound doesnt work.. lol02:40
puffjohnjacobjinger: well, the 70-persistent-net-rules has three different MAC address values for eth0, eth1, eth2.02:40
wallythemoosehmm.. well for some reason grub has the wrong memtest stuff in there... that's as far as I can tell. Maybe there is a way to install memtest for 64 buit or a different version of memtest02:40
puffjohnjacobjinger: Hm, I just noticed that the line I appended to /etc/network/interfaces didn't have a newline at the end. Could that have caused problems?02:40
wallythemoosememetic: you could try running update-grub but I don't know if that would correct the problem if something else is going on02:41
teffack, trying to install 12.04 64 bit alt and its dying at package install because "xserver-xorg-video-all: depends: xserver-xorg-video-ati but it is not isntallable       depends: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau but it is not installable"... anyone have any ideas how to resolve?02:41
OerHeksmemetic, in your case, you should run memtest from cd, since your memtest86 tru grub is not working.02:42
usr13teff: What type of install are you doing?02:42
puffjohnjacobjinger: Nope, added the newline and rebooted, same problem.02:43
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memeticOerHeks: I don't like having broken options.02:43
wallythemooseJordan_U: It turns out that fixparts is only for MBR disks, it says to use parted or GPT fdisk on it.02:43
memeticMost people are on 64bit systems.02:43
teffusr13, sorry, desktop install, lvm partition with root and home lv's, nvidia gpu02:43
memeticSeems like a seriously fucked approach in 12.04 to offer people memtest when it doesn't work.02:43
memeticI'll try update-grub and then just run from cd.02:43
memeticThanks guys.02:44
usr13teff: Installing from CDROM?  Or...?02:44
OerHeksmemetic, and do a filecheck too02:44
Jordan_Uwallythemoose: Then use "gdisk" (which is by the same developer as fixparts).02:44
teffusr13, heh, sorry its 2:44 in the morning :p its from usb created with universal usb installer on windows02:45
wallythemooseJordan_U: Thanks, I just realized that. Doh'02:46
usr13teff: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/97650902:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 976509 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Can't install Ubuntu 12.04 beta 2 Alternative" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:46
Jordan_Uwallythemoose: You're welcome.02:46
bkfitz12.04 on old acer laptop... just installed... wifi says 'firmware missing' help02:46
bkfitz'device not ready'02:46
usr13bkfitz: What does lspci say about your wifi card?02:47
teffusr13, thanks, no idea how i didnt clock that myself02:47
usr13np02:47
bkfitzusr13: it's actually still installing so I'll try that when it's done, but i had the same problem with 10.0402:48
usr13bkfitz: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade02:49
bandit-ledi am getting continuous lockups where i have to ssh in and restart02:49
bkfitzusr13: but with no wifi... it won't be able to upgrade... no cat5 to plug into02:50
bkfitzusing my phone 3g02:50
bkfitzat the in-laws reinstalling their laptop :)02:50
usr13bkfitz: Oh, well, that's gonna make it kinda tough.02:51
bkfitzusr13: yeah... i have a usb wifi at the office, but it'll be a hassle02:51
usr13... but tell us what the wifi chip is and we'll see what we can do.  Ctrl-Alt-F602:51
cornell1Well, the machine's back up, seems to be better.  Though, when I drag a window to the side, it doesn't show up on the next workspace, it just disappears.  But, I can still use the right-click/move to workspace on right.02:52
bkfitzusr13: can i download the upgrades as debs?02:52
teffam i going to be able to get away with remounting the usb install media read write from the isntall enviroment?02:52
cornell1Well, this evening's problem is solved... thanks for your help tomreyn and ActionParsnip02:52
usr13bkfitz: Why don't you tell us what lspci says about the wifi chip and we'll go from there?  Ctrl-Alt-F602:53
bkfitzusr13: 10-4... it just finished rebooting now02:53
usr13bkfitz: Oh, ok.02:53
LinkandzeldaIf I'm going to use Gnome Classic, is there any reason to use 12.10 over 12.04?02:54
usr13bkfitz: First, see what iwconfig says.02:54
usr13Linkandzelda: I doubt it.02:54
OerHeksLinkandzelda, not sure 12.10 still has 'classic'02:54
teffits ok, apparently yes :)02:55
LinkandzeldaOerHeks: thanks to ActionParsnip It does, and i can confirm as i installed gnome-panel :)02:55
bkfitzusr13: it says IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:off/any Mode:Managed Access Point: Not Associated....02:55
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usr13bkfitz: Looks like it's working.02:56
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bkfitzusr13: I agree... maybe 12.04 fixed it... hang on...02:56
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blendedbychrisanyone know how to resolve this "invoke-rc.d: initscript glusterfs-server, action "start" failed."02:57
blendedbychrisis it running the init script?02:58
blendedbychrisThe script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart02:58
blendedbychrisjob, but --configure is not supported for Upstart jobs.02:58
blendedbychrismaybe that' what's blowing it up?02:58
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bkfitzusr13: it seems to be working... but it isn't seeing my phone access point02:59
bkfitzusr13: not listed in wireless dropdown02:59
usr13bkfitz: Try configuring it manually.02:59
puffjohnjacobjinger: Thanks, g'night!02:59
bkfitzusr13: out my league... can you help03:00
bkfitzusr13: oh you mean the access point.. ok i'll try03:00
bkfitzusr13: thought you meant scan for access points manually03:00
usr13bkfitz: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid my-phone  #where wlan0 is the wifi, and my-phone is the essid of your phone.03:00
usr13bkfitz: or, yes;  sudo iwlist scan03:01
usr13bkfitz:  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan03:01
Gaming4JCHey all, quick and simple questions. In synaptic you can choose a specific package to upgrade. By commandline I've only done apt-get upgrade (which updates everything). Is there a way to update only ONE package from CLI?03:01
johnjacobjingermy neighbor last night threatened to call the cops on me for using linux03:01
usr13bkfitz: Once you have essid set;   sudo dhclient wlan003:02
Gaming4JC*question rather ;)03:02
mentocI've used update-rc.d to remove links to init scripts but the daemons seem to still start and are present in ps aux03:02
usr13johnjacobjinger: Were you hacking into his WiFi?03:02
mentocis there anything I might be missing?03:02
* Gaming4JC DuckDuckGoes while waiting03:02
johnjacobjingerusr13 he said the only ppl who use it are hackers so i must be up to no good basically03:03
Gaming4JCjohnjacobjinger: he could be testing his own wifi? o_O03:03
usr13johnjacobjinger: Linux users are hackers.03:03
bkfitzusr13: iwlist scan gave me "Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down"03:03
Gaming4JCusr13: now now, no need for stereotypes... xD03:03
bkfitzusr13: now dropdown says (firmware missing) device not ready under Wireless Networks03:04
wallythemoosejohnjacobjinger: tell him that hackers do work for the government03:04
usr13Gaming4JC: It's true.  But there IS a difference between hackers and malicious hackers.03:04
mentocHacking merely means coding03:04
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ekajHacking means modifying03:05
usr13ekaj: correct03:05
cuddylierHi03:05
ekajCoding is encompassed in that03:05
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ActionParsnipbkfitz: install the firmware cutter package listed on the broadcom wifi guide03:05
cuddylierDoes anyone know of a good ssh FTP client?03:05
Gaming4JCtrue, cracking is evil, hacking is not03:05
Gaming4JC:)03:05
ekajMalicous hackers should be called 'cracking'03:05
ekaj*crackers03:05
usr13cuddylier: sftp03:05
ekaj*malicious03:06
usr13ekaj: Yea, cracker is short for malicious hacker03:06
mentocis there an alternate way daemons would start besides rc?03:06
cuddylierUsr13 what would be the command to install that.03:07
bkfitzActionParsnip: thx for the suggestion... I just googled it and got this link: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 correct?03:07
cuddylierTried googling03:07
ekajThat's  probably why the mix up came in the first place, because people were too lazy to add malicous to hacker03:07
ekaj*the media03:07
Gaming4JCAha, I love the man-pages. apt-get INSTALL will upgrade OR install new packages, whereas apt-get upgrade updates ALL. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/en/man8/apt-get.8.html03:07
Gaming4JCtherefore I will be using install03:08
Gaming4JCty :)03:08
ActionParsnipbkfitz: yes, there is a firmware cutter package there which will get the files you need from your firmware in your system and make what is needed03:08
wallythemooseJordan_U: So I decided to bite the bullet and just repartition the drive and copy back all of the data, but it turns out that Ubuntu doesn't like Window's GPT partition table, and Window's doesn't like Ubuntu's (or should I say GParted) GPT partition table. Drats!03:08
* Gaming4JC enjoys asking and answering his own questions... :P03:08
bkfitzActionParsnip: I don't have lan connection... so I need to download on this laptop and transfer to new one I'm installing... so i really need a deb03:08
ActionParsnipbkfitz: check out http://packages.ubuntu.com    is the system a laptop?03:08
cuddylierAnyone know the command to install the sftp client?03:08
bkfitzActionParsnip: yes... old acer03:08
ActionParsnipbkfitz: then move it to the router and use a wired connection, waaay easier03:09
usr13cuddylier: sudo apt-get install openssh-client03:09
cuddylierThanks a lot usr1303:09
bkfitzActionParsnip: no router :) at the in laws installing 12.04 on their old laptop with tethered galaxy s3 on 3g03:09
tomreyncuddylier: but i assume you want a graphical interface instead. you could try filezilla then.03:10
bkfitzActionParsnip: is this it http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/net/cutter03:10
cuddylierI want to stick to ssh if possible for performance sake, I used a GUI before and messed a machine up lol to tomreyn but ideally I would use a GUI if it wasn't for performance.03:11
ActionParsnipbkfitz: no, thne broadcom guide tells you the package n03:11
EthinUnable to install ubuntu03:11
ActionParsnipbkfitz: name03:11
cuddylierI suppose I could install a GUI just to use FileZilla and uninstall but sounds worse than open sftp03:11
tomreyncuddylier: the sftp command in openssl-client is indeed what you want then03:12
tomreyn.. for command line usage03:12
usr13cuddylier: FileZilla is a very powerful peice of software, (if you need it).03:12
bandit-ledi have had 5 lockups setting here :C03:12
simplewim trying to report a bug but some is failing: ERROR: Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress?  Error: No module named 'DLFCN'03:12
simplewcan anyone tell me whats the problem?03:13
wallythemooseSimply put, I cannot share an entire 3tb (2.73Tib) drive as one partition with both Windows and Ubuntu. Neither of them will see each-other's version of the GPT partition table, and MSDOS partition table (MBR) only allows for partitions up to 2tb :(03:13
ActionParsnipbkfitz: search the page for the word cutter, seems like an obvious ting to do....03:13
ActionParsnipbkfitz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/b43-fwcutter03:13
cuddylierTomreyn will open ssh mess up my current ssh? Just the default my host installed.03:13
cuddylierOr is it only a FTP client?03:14
bkfitzActionParsnip: I thought I did... maybe I missed it.  Thx though03:14
bkfitzActionParsnip: thx for you help03:14
tomreyncuddylier: openssh is an ssh client, it's probably the one you already have installed if you already have an ssh client installed.03:14
cuddylierTomreyn Ah...could u tell me the FTP base commands, sorry for being lazy :(03:15
cuddylierplease03:15
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bkfitzActionParsnip: ok... just installed the deb03:16
bkfitzActionParsnip: reboot and pray?03:16
tomreyncuddylier: please read the man page and the "interactive commands" section there. there aren't many.03:16
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ActionParsnipbkfitz: yeah should be ok03:17
Guest92309Hello, could someone help me with an issue I'm having booting ubuntu from a flash drive?03:17
cuddylierTomreyn thanks03:17
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tomreynyw03:18
Guest92309Basically, when I try to boot it up I get an error saying there isn't a UI file. I tried changing the name on some files to syslinux, but that didn't work either.03:18
Guest92309Is there anything else I can try?03:18
pepeeGuest92309, do you have the exact error message?03:19
pepeeGuest92309, is this from grub?03:19
Guest92309um, let me see if i can find it03:19
pepeeGuest92309, I don't really know what is syslinux. from the manpage, it says it's a bootloader. why are you using it?03:21
Guest92309it says no default or ui configuration directive found03:21
bkfitzusr13: something is still funky03:21
Guest92309im not sure, i googled the error I got and it said to change the file name to that.03:21
Guest92309im pretty new with this haha03:21
bkfitzActionParsnip: something is still funky03:22
pepeeGuest92309, how did you install ubuntu?03:22
Guest92309i havnt yet, i downloadedthe ISO and used pendrive to install it on a flash drive03:22
DayonaAdrieMy left side dock (or as Ubuntu calls it launcher) has been missing in action since I installed Ubuntu. Is there anyway to fix this without reinstalling Ubuntu?03:22
Guest92309then when i try to boot from the flash drive, i get that error03:22
simplewim trying to REPORT A BUG but some is failingwhen running "ubuntu-bug muon" -> ERROR: Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress?  Error: No module named 'DLFCN'03:23
ekajGuest92309: Are you trying to install Ubuntu from a flash drive?03:23
Guest92309yes03:23
ekajHave you tried Unetbootin?03:23
simplewdoes anyone knows why?03:23
CuddylierTomreyn I am really sorry but I can't see commands or interactive commands on http://www.openssh.org/ or even in the commands, am I just blind?03:23
Guest92309yeah, for some reason it freezes on step 303:23
ekajDo you already have the ISO downloaded?03:23
phong_hi guys, how to make qbittorent as default ...currently it use tranmission03:23
CuddylierI meant in the manuals I couldn't see it either03:23
phong_please help03:23
Guest92309yes, im downloading it again just in case.03:23
ekajWhat is step 3 btw?03:24
Guest92309um03:24
pepeesimplew, http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/4228-python-qt4-designer-pyuic4-no-module-named-dlfcn-solution-found/03:24
Guest92309installing bootloader03:24
ekajAlso, Guest92309, read this, it might help https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/16276503:24
Guest92309ok03:25
phong_guys, how to make qbittorent as default instead of transmission03:25
wallythemoose!patience03:25
usr13simplew: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2*list  #Tell us what it says.03:25
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/03:25
bkfitzActionParsnip: how do I know if its using the new broadcom driver I installed?03:25
bkfitzActionParsnip: seems to be behaving exactly the same03:26
wallythemoosephong_: are you trying to make qtbittorrent open torrent files from a web browser by default?03:26
phong_yes03:26
phong_i use firefox03:26
phong_when i click torrent file03:26
simplewusr13:03:26
phong_it use tranmission03:26
simplew:~$ ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2*list03:26
simplew/var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.7.list  /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.7-minimal.list03:26
usr13simplew: grep DLFCN /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.7.list03:26
bkfitziwconfig shows ESSID what i set it to, but when i do a scan, it says interface doesn't support it network is down03:26
wallythemoosemaybe right click on a file, properties -> open with tab, and change the application, phong_03:26
simplewusr13: /usr/lib/python2.7/plat-linux2/DLFCN.py03:27
wallythemooseso save the file first, then go to properties and change the open with type03:27
LinkandzeldaActionParsnip: after installing gnome-panel I was unable to right click on the panels or make new ones. how can i do that?03:27
simplewusr13: closed by mistaked03:28
Guest92309ok, it says to try not saving any memory for persistent file, ill try that.03:28
Guest92309thank you very much :)03:28
greenhornlinuxGuest92309, I had the exact same issue with pendrive and ubuntu, I never solved it with pendrive. There is a work around however. Here is a link to my site and video on what you can do http://www.greenhornlinux.com/2012/06/03/install-linux-to-a-usb-thumb-drive/ basically if you can use a live cd instead you can use the live cd to set up your flash drive. That method worked for me. Hopefully you can run the live cd03:28
Guest92309oh, thank you very much, ill defintly watch that03:28
ActionParsnipLinkandzelda: I believe you have to hold ALT then right clcik03:29
usr13simplew: sudo find /usr/lib/ -name DLFCN.py -type f03:29
ActionParsnipLinkandzelda: I'd suggest you install xfce4 instead of trying to use the old gnome-panel shell. Its a lot less twitchy03:30
ActionParsnipusr13: simplew: sudo updatedb; locate DLFCN.py03:30
usr13ActionParsnip: I think my way is quicker.  ;003:31
ActionParsnipusr13: mines good for future searches :)03:31
usr13true....03:31
simplewusr13, ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/133093203:31
bkfitzActionParsnip: still stuck in the mud... any ideas03:32
usr13ActionParsnip: simplew seems to have 2 versions of python ....?03:32
ActionParsnipbkfitz: if you are using wifi, your router will have ethernet ports which you can use03:32
ActionParsnipusr13: that's fine03:33
usr13O03:33
bkfitzActionParsnip: no router here.  Using 3g on phone03:33
bkfitztethering03:33
usr13simplew: Well, I dono what the problem is.  (I was guessing you may have a defenciency of some sort but, maybe not.) I dono...03:33
bkfitzActionParsnip: I could take the new laptop home tomorrow and plug into my router at home and do updgrade/update... do you think that will fix it?03:34
marcusany1 know how to fix .NET on 64bit ubuntu?03:34
ActionParsnipbkfitz: so what will you be connecting to once the broadcom gets setup, or is it incease it needs to be used later?03:34
simplewso how can i nw report a bug in ubuntu??03:34
bkfitzActionParsnip: in-laws are going to get cable internet next week...03:35
ActionParsnipbkfitz: there is also a how to in order to use the install CD as a repo to set it up with no web access03:35
bkfitzActionParsnip: luggites :)03:35
usr13bkfitz: Did you try  sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <my-phone's-essid>;sudo dhclient wlan0  ?03:35
bkfitzyes and it took it03:35
bkfitzand when i do iwconfig it shows my essid03:35
bkfitzbut still not connecting03:35
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usr13bkfitz: sudo dhclient wlan0   ?03:35
arielCoHello everyone.03:36
usr13Hello03:36
bkfitz"no such file or directory"03:36
bkfitzRTNETLINK answers: no such...03:36
usr13bkfitz: What?03:36
arielCoAny of you had trouble with the netboot/minimal cd?03:36
bkfitzusr13: thats what I get when I run sudo dhclient wlan003:36
ActionParsnipbkfitz: is there a switch to enable / disable the wifi03:37
dfs4wats up linuxers03:37
usr13bkfitz: sudo dhclient wlan0   #Where wlan0 is actually the name of your wifi03:37
MattJCliffesup dfs403:37
usr13bkfitz: Yea, (what ActionParsnip says...).03:37
pepeesimplew, are you using 12.10?03:37
DayonaAdrie"My left side dock (or as Ubuntu calls it launcher) has been missing in action since I installed Ubuntu. Is there anyway to fix this without reinstalling Ubuntu?" Just making sure someone saw/sees this. I'm poking around on forums and stuff in the meantime.03:37
bkfitzwlan0 is the name i believe03:37
dfs4nothin much just hanging out03:37
bkfitziwconfig wlan0 says so03:37
ActionParsnipDayonaAdrie: what video chip do you use?03:37
dfs4brb03:37
usr13bkfitz: What's the essid of your phone?03:37
DayonaAdrieUh….I have to look it up real quick ActionParsnip - give me just a moment.03:38
bkfitzFitzTether... if i run sudo dhclient FitzTether I get "Cannot find device "FitzTether"03:38
usr13bkfitz: What does lspci say about your  wifi device?03:38
arielCoAny of you had trouble with the netboot/minimal cd? I burned the amd64 iso and the keyboard stops responding on language selection. :(03:38
usr13bkfitz: FitzTether is the essid, not the wifi chip.  Try:  sudo dhclient wlan003:39
ActionParsnipbkfitz: try disabling then enabling the wifi. Or unload and reload the driver module03:40
bkfitzusr13: lspci says Broadcom Corporation BCM431 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)03:40
usr13bkfitz: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "FitzTether";dhclient wlan003:40
bkfitzusr13: yes... i did sudo dhclient wlan003:40
bkfitzthats when i get the weird RTNETLINK error03:40
blackholeguys help me, how to install download google earth?03:40
DayonaAdrieActionParsnip: My video chip is …ATI RAedon HD 320003:40
pepeebkfitz, in a console, rfkill list03:40
ActionParsnipDayonaAdrie: and using 12.10?03:40
DayonaAdrieActionParsnip: Yes.03:41
bkfitzpepee: what will that do03:41
bkfitzSoft Blocked no Hard blocked no03:41
bkfitz0: phy0: Wireless LAN03:41
ActionParsnipDayonaAdrie: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html03:41
pepeebkfitz, it shows if the devices are locked03:41
simplewpepee: yes03:41
DayonaAdrieThank you so very much ActionParsnip - I'm gonna try this as soon as the Alabama LSU game ends. I'm a little wrapped up in the last minute. lol.03:42
bkfitzpepee: good thought but it doesn't look locked03:42
DayonaAdrieWell a little at the same time. Let's just hope I don't get too into the game. lol.03:42
simplewpepee: sorry, i have installed quantal, but then i upgraded to raring03:42
pepeesimplew, #ubuntu+103:43
ar9anyone of a way to delete a bunch of pictures that all end in the same way/name? i have a bunch of pictures that all end in *small.jpg03:43
arielCoHello everyone. I'm having trouble with the minimal;netboot cd, amd64. It hangs, or the keyboard stops responding, right at the first screen. Any of you had the same happen?03:44
codemaniacar9: use "rm *small.jpg"03:44
ActionParsniparielCo: what video chip do you use?03:44
simplewpepee: i was there03:44
ar9codemaniac: ty03:44
arielCoNvidia, gtx 67003:44
bkfitzActionParsnip: Pepee: Usr13: Thanks for all your help guys... prob just going to drag this thing home and get it on eth0 to update/upgrade, then mess with it03:45
arielCo(Thouh it's in text mode)03:45
pepeesimplew, that's the channel for raring, just wait there until someone helps you03:45
codemaniacar9: but before doing the rm command do a "ls -l *small.jpg" to make sure these are the set of files you want to remove03:45
pepeebkfitz, tried pinging remote servers? do you have an IP?03:45
pepee*internal IP03:45
ActionParsniparielCo: try the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=103:45
bkfitzpepee: didn't check, but don't think so because little wifi icon shows empty03:46
simplewpepee: isnt there another way to report bugs?03:46
pepeesimplew, for raring, no03:46
arielCoActionParsnip: Ah, that might work. Even if it's text mode?03:46
wallythemooseJordan_U: I tried to use Gdisk from both windows 7 and ubuntu, and still each refuses to see the other's partition table that they made... I may have to settle for MBR and a 2tb partition03:46
ar9codemaniac: is there a way to keep it to 5 letters before the *small.jpg, the're all named XXXXXs.jpg03:46
ActionParsniparielCo: yes, it can be needed03:47
pepeesimplew, in fact, bug reports may be invalid, since it's in development03:47
arielCoTrying ...03:47
usr13bkfitz: You probably need:  bcmwl-kernel-source - Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver source03:47
codemaniacar9: i dont get your requirement, can you clarify please?03:47
bkfitzusr13: ok i'll try it when i get home... thx again03:47
simplewpepee: its a bug report in an app that has nothing to do if is in raring03:47
usr13bkfitz: NP03:48
pepeesimplew, yes, it has to do, whatever happens in raring has to be reported in that channel03:48
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ar9codemaniac: i have pictures all named 12345s.jpg and 12345h.jpg, i want to batch delete all the 12345s.jpg ones03:48
usr13bkfitz: Actually, I'd first try:  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade    #first03:48
codemaniacar9: ahh, do a rm 12345*03:48
pepeesimplew, that's why it's not recommended to use development versions in early stages03:48
bkfitzusr13: yeah i will03:49
codemaniacar9: rm 12345*jpg wowld be better03:49
usr13bkfitz: What did you install?03:49
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codemaniacar9: wait03:49
ar9codemaniac: what if theyre random? like *****s.jpg03:50
Gnosis-Hello. It doesn't seem like this HP printer is recognized (I keep trying to print a test page but nothing happens). Here is my syslog: http://bpaste.net/show/55707/03:50
pepeesimplew, you shouldn't be using raring if you don't want bugs in the first place, and this channel is for 12.10 or less. #ubuntu+1 is for raring03:50
arielCoActionParsnip.03:50
simplewi have many packages in /var/cache/apt/ and i want to do a clean isntall, so i wan to tcreate a local debian repo to be able to use these packages instead download them again, can anyone help me create a local repo to be used by apt?03:50
usr13Gnosis-: firefox localhost:63103:51
codemaniacnow i get you i guess, try ls -l *s.jpg, then rm03:51
codemaniacar9: is itat all you want03:51
arielCoActionParsnip: where do I put the params in grub2? I got "linux /linux priority=low --".03:51
Gnosis-usr13: I see the CUPS page03:51
arielCo(I'm used to legacy)03:51
ar9codemaniac: i think do, thanks man I'll try it out03:51
Linkandzeldawhat IM clints does everyone use?03:51
Linkandzeldai'm tempted to just use Bitlbee lol03:52
pepeesimplew, you can simply copy those files, and then copying them back to the same folder03:52
codemaniacar9: bo problem :)03:52
codemaniacno*03:52
usr13Gnosis-: Yes, now configure your printer, (and set as default if you see fit). Kill any jobs.  Print test page.  Etc....03:52
ActionParsnip!bootoption | arielCo03:52
ubottuarielCo: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions See also !nomodeset.03:52
simplewpepee: and oonce the clean isntall is done i copy the packages again to /var/cache/apt and synaptic will use them?03:52
DayonaAdrieOkay ActionParsnip there is still one problem that rings out for me in running this commands….I need to be able to actually open the terminal. How do you suggest I do this?03:53
* DayonaAdrie is not a complete Linux junkie but does like it.03:53
pepeesimplew, apt-get does that. not sure about synaptic, but it should03:53
simplewpepee: meanwhile isnt possible to report in launchpad website?03:54
Gnosis-usr13: I got it working, thanks!03:54
usr13DayonaAdrie: Ctrl-Alt-t  ?03:54
usr13Gnosis-: NP03:54
tapoutare there stats on kde vs gnome with ubuntu installs/downloads?03:55
tapouti suspect kde is growing lately?03:55
DayonaAdrieOkay that worked. Thanks usr13 - I'm not a real keyboard ninja with any Linux.03:55
usr13DayonaAdrie: NP03:55
pepeesimplew, file a report, but make sure to tell them you are using raring03:55
Gnosis-usr13: I think the regular printer setup GUI for Ubuntu should just include a link to open up http://localhost:631/... clearly the interface is not as good :)03:55
pepeesimplew, or just wait for someone to reply in #ubuntu+103:55
usr13Gnosis-: Agreed03:56
simplewpepee: im in https://bugs.launchpad.net/muon  but i see no way to report a bug03:56
simplewpepee: this bug happens in 12.1003:56
pepeesimplew, try #kubuntu then03:57
pepeesimplew, again, you are using raring...03:57
Zer0GlitchWhat's a good resource for learning linux for ground-up approach? E.G. i want to get into compiling and building packages for a lot of the apps that I see out there, but many of which have to be compiled, packed, or in some cases repacked.03:58
trismsimplew: this would be the page for ubuntu bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon (the other would be for upstream bugs if muon used launchpad for that, which they don't)03:59
usr13Zer0Glitch: As a Ubuntu user, you'll find little need to compile a package, most all of them come to us packaged and ready to go.04:00
pepeeZer0Glitch, linux from scratch I suppose. ask in ##linux too04:01
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arielCoActionParsnip: okay, I added "nomodeset nouveau.blacklist=yes" after "-- quiet". Same result.04:01
ActionParsniparielCo: are you using a switchable video hardware04:02
arielCoYup, that's what I was writing: "Maybe booting with the integrated gpu."04:02
DayonaAdrieWell this is going to take me some time to do. Stupid satellite internet. Meanwhile the only thing I have to watch i the post game coverage on a game that we done won and I don't care to watch a post game of. All I know is the Alabama Crimson Tide won.04:02
DayonaAdrieAnd that's all I care about. xD04:03
ActionParsniparielCo: that stuff causes all kinds of hell in linux04:03
Zer0Glitchusr13 > Try finding a solid pre-packed NEStopia copy that runs well on Ubuntu and employs sound properly across multiple hardware brands and run that by me again.04:03
ActionParsniparielCo: this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics04:03
ActionParsniparielCo: I've never seen a success story with that mess.04:04
usr13Zer0Glitch: As far as just learning Linux from "ground up";  To start with, there are lots of resources online.  You might find http://www.linux.org/ interesting, (see Free Online Linux Courses).04:04
bandit-ledZer0Glitch, look into funtoo or gentoo as well04:05
pepeeinstall gentoo04:05
pepeeyeah04:05
Zer0GlitchA lot of the repacks and ports I want to do are for indie games04:05
Zer0GlitchNot a lot out there for games which are well-packed to run with Ubuntu04:05
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bradyim trying to use luckybackup to backup my /etc , but it appears to not be able to do it , which i assume is some sort of permissions thing.  I tried running lucky backup via the terminal with sudo, but it still appears to not allow it04:06
ActionParsnipZer0Glitch: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/12.04/?q=nes   you can use once you install this deb: http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb04:06
bandit-ledZer0Glitch,   you can always build them your self although i haven't found any games that work on linux that dont usually have a debian or ubuntu package04:08
arielCoNo luck either. I already installed OpenSUSE by switching to the integrated gpu, but the netboot CD freezes.04:08
ActionParsnipZer0Glitch: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc    I may have a PPA for nestopia04:08
arielCoactionParsnip: above. Also, did I mention thet it's an amd64 ISO?04:09
ActionParsniparielCo: shouldn't make a difference on the arch04:09
arielCoThought so. If I even had a log... FYI, it works fine with qemu-kvm from the existing installation.04:10
arielCoAhh... I'll try the "expert command line install" and see what shows up04:11
ActionParsniparielCo: if you intend to use Linux it is best avoided04:11
rgenitois there a way to have "dd" show you the % complete for transferring the blocks?04:12
rgenito(if of course, the input is of a known size)04:12
rgenitooooo i found a google article that may have given me information to do that... i'll post it here if it turns out to help :)04:13
ActionParsniprgenito: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/5293/dd-with-progress-bar04:13
arielCorgenito: if you "pkill -USR2 dd" or maybe USR1, it prints progress info.04:13
arielCoLol, ninja'd04:13
shellDoes anyone know some popular irc channels, for General technology or chat?04:13
edbianshell, There is #ubuntu-offtopic04:14
ActionParsnipshell: #ubuntu-offtopic can be both :)04:14
rgenitooh sweet, this seems to help me learn about other things too.. thanks ActionParsnip and arielCo :D04:14
rgenitowait, what's the topic here anyways? ;)04:14
rgenitowhattttt?04:15
rgenitodude, "watch" ... awesome! :D04:15
shellAre there any others beside offtopic that you like?04:15
Zer0GlitchSpecial thanks to ActionParsnip and Burtonium04:15
rgenitothe idea of a command like that kicks ASS04:15
Tricaricoola04:15
arielCoActionParsnip: no luck with any option. I guess I'll burn a full dvd.04:15
usr13Zer0Glitch: sudo apt-get install build-essential #Go to http://www.linux.org/article/view/installing-programs-and-upgrading-software-os-versions and scroll to bottom.  #FYI04:15
burtoniumnp Zer0Glitch04:16
Noskcaji just installed the mediabuntu extras but update manager isn't letting me update some stuff it says Requires installation of untrusted packages and stops04:16
arielCoI was trying to spare me a half-gb of updates04:16
rgenitowow, i didn't realize "kill" could be so interesting :)04:16
usr13Zer0Glitch: My last comment to you is probably something you dont really need, but just FYI.04:16
Zer0GlitchWhy do you mention usr13?04:17
Zer0GlitchJust so I know?04:17
usr13Zer0Glitch: Yes04:17
wilee-nileeNoskcaj, Did you add the key and is it shown in a try in the terminal?04:18
Noskcajwilee-nilee: what do you mean and i will try04:19
wilee-nileeNoskcaj, Are you running the installs from a terminal?04:19
Zer0Glitchusr13 > I'm running 12.04 LTS will it matter?04:19
arielCorgenito: 'kill' is all about sending signals to processes. Most signal can be "caught" and be used for signalling.04:19
usr13Zer0Glitch: No.  (And 12.04 LTS is a good place to be IMO).04:20
Noskcajwilee-nilee: i am now, and it says no public  key04:21
skunkUbuntu software center is slow and buggy.. is this a common problem??04:21
bradyhow can i back up /etc ?04:21
wilee-nileeNoskcaj, With medibuntu stuff?04:21
edbianbrady, cp /etc /some/backup/folder04:21
edbianbrady, What's confusing you?04:21
skunkyes? no?04:22
edbianskunk, IDK, I never use it :P04:22
bradyi was trying to use luckybackup04:22
edbianbrady, I guess the -r flag might be useful04:22
edbianbrady, I'm not familiar with that program04:22
skunkgood grief.. this darn thing has been buggy and slow for two years since it's incemption04:22
bradyim not familiar with the terminal04:22
arielCo!efi04:22
edbianfair enough :P04:23
edbianskunk, just use command line tools04:23
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: if you can give the code in:  sudo apt-get update     I can advise04:23
Noskcaj<wilee-nilee: yeah04:23
skunklook man.. not to be rude.. but if ubuntu is supposed to be for "human beings" they should compete head on with the mac app store04:23
wilee-nileeNoskcaj, I'm not sure how you added the repo, but this set of commands should of added it and the keys.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu04:23
Noskcajthanks04:24
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: run:   sudo apt-get update    what is teh GPG key error you get?04:24
wilee-nileeNoskcaj, You might try just this portion, sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update04:24
skunkedbian, look man.. not to be rude.. but if ubuntu is supposed to be for "human beings" they should compete head on with the mac app store04:24
NoskcajGPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org quantal InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A278304:24
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 2EBC26B60C5A278304:24
skunksynaptic was really good though04:24
edbianskunk, they are trying to compete.  No-one said they're succeeding!  (maybe they do) but anyway.  Do you have a tech support question?  if not you can talk about the stupid software center in #ubuntu-offtopic04:25
wilee-nileeNoskcaj, It loks like ActionParsnip has the key for you.04:25
Noskcajok04:25
jsKealSup.04:25
jsKealHello.04:26
ActionParsnipwilee-nilee: its the same for all key errors. I have it in a script called 'getkey' :)04:26
NoskcajjsKeal: dont waste time04:26
jsKealWhy?04:26
jsKeallol.04:26
jsKealI have all the time I need :&04:26
wilee-nileeActionParsnip, Hehe, how convenient. ;)04:27
arielCo!justask | jsKeal04:27
ubottujsKeal: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:27
ActionParsnipwilee-nilee: I'm lazy04:27
Ali_nz^1I need to setup a directory and have some specific permissions. I need a user called MxCamera which can read and write to this directory (MxData) via NFS. I need another user called MxUser which can Read only to this directory via SMB - as a start - where is the best place to create this folder? under /home/MxData ?04:31
edbianAli_nz^1, I believe you need to have that use MxCamera on the file hosting machine and the machine the user logs into in order for it to work correctly.04:33
edbianAli_nz^1, There is a system which allows you to add use account to one file on one machine and have all the other machines read that file to become of user accounts.04:33
ActionParsnipAli_nz^1: if you use smbpasswd you can make samba users, then set which samba users have what access04:33
edbianAli_nz^1, The best place for the folder is probably /mnt/  or I guess just in /  ?  Not really sure04:34
Ali_nz^1Ok04:35
Ali_nz^1then /mnt/MxData it is04:35
Ali_nz^1And just trying to get my head around NFS permissions04:36
Ali_nz^1If I understand correct NFS allows or disallows access based on IP address?04:36
Ali_nz^1how do I check what my username is?04:43
blackshirtwhoami04:43
Ali_nz^1ta04:44
codemaniacAli_nz^1: what says 'id'?04:48
ActionParsnipAli_nz^1: works in windows too :)04:52
Ali_nz^1the manual suggests chown -R 65534:0 /mnt/MxData - does that give everyone access to the directory?04:52
Ali_nz^1ActionParsnip: ur right - it does work in windows lol04:53
johnjacobjingergah freaking comcast04:53
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Ali_nz^1the user I created (MxCamera) is 1000:1000 who why not chown -R 1000:100004:54
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Random833Ali_nz^1: no you need to chmod04:55
Ali_nz^1Random833: nah - the next line says chmod 755 /mnt/mxData04:56
Zer0GlitchHow does one switch between desktop builds in Ubuntu?05:01
Zer0GlitchI have 12.04 LTS and just installed xubuntu-desktop05:01
Ali_nz^1whats the best free ddns service these days with ubuntu support?05:01
gnnri use afraid.org05:01
wols_Zer0Glitch: typically you switch at login between the installed ones05:02
gnnrZer0: usually on boot you are presented a selection in Grub boot05:02
Ali_nz^1gnnr: Yeah I seen that one - what makes it good? how to make it work with ubuntu05:02
Zer0GlitchIs there a way to set default?05:03
ActionParsnipZer0Glitch: the last session is remembered for your user05:03
wols_Zer0Glitch: depends on your displaymanager05:03
wols_Ali_nz^1: inadyn for example. apt-cache search afraid.org05:03
wols_another would be no-ip.org05:03
ActionParsnipno-ip is sweeeeet05:04
gnnrAli_nz^1: it's free, tons of fun domains to choose from. I'd recommend setting it up on your router and then forwarding the ports you need to your computer05:04
bradythe ubuntu installer, its possible to install to a drive that has some folders in it without overwriting it?05:04
gnnrbrady, during the install you are prompted to create a new partition, so usually you either want to erase the contents and install on an existing partition or create a new partition05:05
bradydoes this mean i can reduce the size of the partition the files are on , without deleting them, and therefore have space to create a new partition for the system?05:07
gnnrbrady, yes you will have to select manual partition and see if you can find a solution that works for you05:08
Ali_nz^1it looks like you can create a subdomain05:09
wols_brady: but make sure you have backups of the data which is on the disk you want to resize. make very sure05:09
wols_Ali_nz^1: you can always only create a subdomain05:10
Ali_nz^1wols: whats the diff between the public and private ones?05:11
wols_context?05:11
Ali_nz^1wols_: the domains on freedns05:12
ActionParsnipbrad[]: you can mark the partition to be used if you use custom partitining and the data will stand05:13
ActionParsnipbrad[]: obviously filenames identical in the install will be overwritten by the installer05:14
wols_Ali_nz^1: all I can see are private IPs, which means non-routable IPs05:14
_cbMB on my HP just fried so went out & bought a Dell GX620 for 15 bucks, put in the drive and Ubuntu booted up. I am thrilled but surprised. Wouldnt Ubuntu have hp specific drivers installed?05:16
gnnrActionParsnip, he parted05:17
gnnr_cb, is there a specific device that isn't working?05:18
_cbI have not done extensive testing. I am shoked that it even worked05:18
_cbgnnr can one take an ubuntu drive from any one computer, put it into another computer and it will work?05:19
ActionParsnip_cb: no bad thing, sounds awesome05:19
_cbActionParsnip yeah.I thought I was going to have to boot onto cd, copy my data, reformat...05:20
gnnr_cb, drivers in ubuntu are packaged in to the install, so just install ubuntu on another machine, and most hardware is supported. Turns out hp, dell, etc use almost identical components05:20
ActionParsnip_cb: i suggest you get a backup solution05:20
_cbgnnr so I got lucky. Had it been a different model of computer it may have not worked.05:21
gnnr_cb  It's possible a number of motherboards would have worked, but like ActionParsnip back up so you don't have to test your luck05:23
ryanliuehi guys05:24
juniourhi guys how to install latest firefox05:24
dsprc!backups05:25
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning05:25
fegojuniour: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion05:25
ActionParsnipjuniour: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc05:26
juniourfego you have use mozilla in windows05:26
fegojuniour: yes, but not a bin of FF though05:27
juniourprecise05:27
fegobig fan i meant05:27
ActionParsnipjuniour: cool, there are a few PPAs listed on the link fego gave05:27
juniourfego i want the same in ubuntu05:27
gnnrjuniour, try sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox05:27
juniourgnnr tried saying you have the latest one05:28
SuperMigueli right click the network manager and disable my wifi, now i cant enable it back05:28
SuperMiguelany ideas??05:28
LordOfTimejuniour:  there's chromium-browser if you want to use that05:28
juniourno05:28
ActionParsnipjuniour: I just went to http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/   and it aays ver 16 is latest for windows... which is default in Precise as far as I know05:29
juniourcan i mae it same as i use in windows05:29
ActionParsnip!info firefox precise05:29
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 15.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 (precise), package size 19338 kB, installed size 40147 kB05:29
ActionParsnipahhhh05:29
gnnrjuniour, may want to go directly to mozzila's website, and see if there is a direct download, or more frequent builds.05:29
ActionParsnipjuniour: the PPAs will help05:30
xanguaActionParsnip: no, they will not05:30
gnnryea make sure you add the PPA from mozilla05:30
xanguajuniour: you are already using the latest stable firefox05:30
juniourActionParsnip its less option here i dont get the histoty and all options05:30
ActionParsnipxangua: why not?05:31
ActionParsnipxangua: s/he has 15 wheras Quantal has 1605:31
juniourActionParsnip how to enable al the option05:31
dsprcjuniour: what do you mean you dont get the history and options?05:31
juniouryeppp05:32
blazinbassdoes netflix work in wine anyone?05:32
xanguagnnr: no need for that ppa in ages, it doesn't even exist anymore05:32
xanguaActionParsnip: i am using precice and have fx 1605:32
simplewwhy gstreamer-faac doesnt exist in ubuntu?05:32
dsprcblazinbass: i dont think so. maybe check winedb or #wine05:32
ActionParsnipxangua: seems ubottu is lying then :)05:32
juniourfile,tool,edit this all option i am not getting05:33
gnnryea i have 16 looks same as windows for me05:33
LordOfTimeblazinbass:  not really.05:33
ActionParsnipxangua: yes, she is. packages.ubuntu says 16 too05:33
juniouri want to clear my history how willi delete05:33
dsprcjuniour: move your mouse up to the title bar05:33
ActionParsnipjuniour: press CTRL+Shift+DEL05:33
* dsprc does unity still do that??05:33
juniourActionParsnip just i cant get options like i get in windows05:34
ActionParsnipjuniour: like what?05:34
dsprcthe unified menu thing that they have at the top left i think is what he is talking about05:34
juniouryou are using shortcut i want the icon05:34
juniourall05:34
ActionParsnipjuniour: did you move your mouse to the topmost panel? The file, Edit etc go in there05:34
juniourmenu in firefox05:35
juniouryaaa05:35
juniourits not there05:35
ActionParsnipjuniour: do you have firefox-globalmenu installed?05:35
Ali_nz^1ok - I dont get it. I am looking at inadyn for use with freedns, but the command line examples for freedns dont show a prompt for username or password?05:36
ngthi, i am using samsung ml1660 printer, ubuntu detect my printer but i am unable to print anything. I have installed samsung unified driver but still no result.05:37
simplewActionParsnip: why gstreamer-faac doesnt exist in ubuntu?05:38
Jordan_Uwallythemoose: One possible theory is that what you think is a single drive (and was advertised as a single drive) is really a FakeRAID of some type. Do you see more disks listed in Ubuntu that in Windows?05:38
ssasoriguys... at wits end, would love some advice.  i hate unity.  hate is a strong word i know, but its true.  the fact that you cant see open windows and only have that arrow thing, i hate it.  and have to go to 3d mode to see other windows... i hate extra steps.  thats why i dont like unity.  i tried out kubuntu after 5 years.  the customization is AWESOME.  leagues above ubuntu.  but, buggy. things work than they dont work... etc.  so05:39
ssasorican anyone point me to a site that will tell me how to get ubuntu 12.10 running. with a taskbar, so i can see all open windows.  essentially is what i need.  would love the help.  thanks :)05:39
ActionParsnipssasori: try xfce desktop :)05:39
gnnrinadyn --dyndns_service default@freedns.afraid.org -a my.registrated.name,hash_from_freedns05:39
ssasoriActionParsnip: thanks dude, will go check it out right now05:40
gnnrAli_nz^1, you'll need to go into the options on the site, and generate a hash for your subdomain05:40
ActionParsnipsimplew: seems to be in gst-plugins-bad0.1005:40
Jordan_Uwallythemoose: For example if the the RAID array has a stripe size of one MiB, then the first MiB of one of the drives will be the same as the first MiB of the array, and so when looking at that drive alone it will appear to have a GPT label with invalid partition definitions (because it's really describing the array rather than that individual drive).05:41
Ali_nz^1gnnr:ahhh i see05:41
Ali_nz^1gnnr: and setting it as a daemon? or startup service?05:42
ActionParsnipsimplew: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-bad0.10/0.10.22.3-2ubuntu105:42
Zer0Glitch is there a terminal command to force my system to restart in xubuntu-desktop? It keeps reloading into Ubuntu LTS without giving me choice to choose desktop05:42
gnnrAli_nz^1, I would probably add it as a daemon05:43
simplewActionParsnip: such package does not exist gst-plugins-bad0.1005:43
gnnrman inadyn and read through all of the options05:43
ActionParsnip!info gst-plugins-bad0.1005:44
ubottuPackage gst-plugins-bad0.10 does not exist in quantal05:44
ActionParsnip!find plugins-bad05:44
ubottuFound: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-dbg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-doc, gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad, gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad-dbg, gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad-doc, libgstreamer-plugins-bad0.10-0, libgstreamer-plugins-bad0.10-dev, libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0, libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-dev (and 3 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=plugins-bad&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all05:44
ActionParsnipsimplew: install gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad05:44
simplewActionParsnip: iits installed but arista continues complaining about it05:45
gnnrAli_nz^1, like I said earlier, I prefer to set it up on my router, if you use one.05:46
simplewActionParsnip: in Arista i cant do a convertion using preset "Computer - H.264", then appears a dialog to search05:46
ssasoriActionParsnip: thanks for the advice, but a negative on XFCE05:46
bikcmphow do i delete a file with an - in front of it?05:47
bikcmp-blah.flv.05:47
bikcmprm is taking it as a param.05:47
bikcmpi've tried \ and quotes.05:47
Jordan_Ubikcmp: rm ./-blah.flv05:47
gnnrssasori, have you tried lxde?05:47
ssasorihowever, i may have found a colution.  Cinnamon.  if that can kill the danged unity display, ill be happy as a clam05:47
ActionParsnipbikcmp: rm ./\-blah.flv05:47
bikcmpJordan_U, ActionParsnip, worked.  thanks.05:47
ssasorignnr: thanks, checking now05:48
Jordan_Ubikcmp: Another option for difficult file names in almost any command is something like "rm -- -blah.flv" where '--' means "Stop processing flags".05:48
bikcmpJordan_U: yeah05:50
bikcmpgood one05:50
bikcmpthanks.05:50
Jordan_Ubikcmp: You're welcome.05:50
dsprcssasori: be warned that pcmanfm (the file/desktop manager of LXDE) does not play nice if nautilus is on the same box05:50
m000gleDo any international mirrors exist for the kernel DEB files available at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ? ... A mirror on the Chinese mainland would be ideal, but anywhere else in Asia could also be worth a try.05:52
ActionParsnipdsprc: not had an issue here, just need to add:   --no-desktop  to when you run it :)05:52
ssasoridsprc: cool thanks for the heads up.  going to virt ubu12.10 and try cinamon to see if it kills unity look.  so sad.... had my kubuntu all set up.... but bug after bug... sucks.  seriously though, ubu needs to bring in those widgets, those are AWESOME.05:52
dsprcActionParsnip: had to replace it with thunar because it became so crash prone.05:54
nsudowhich software allows me to open .dmg's???05:54
dsprcseems like nautilus gets jealous or lonely and fights for attention sometmes.05:54
Jordan_Unsudo: dmg2img might help you, but why do you want to open a .dmg file?05:54
ActionParsnipdsprc: I'm a huge fan of pcmanfm :)05:55
ActionParsnipdsprc: it also starts trying to draw the desktop unless you tell it not to05:55
nsudoJordan_U I have exported a movie in a dmg05:55
ActionParsnipnsudo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages#DMG_Images05:57
ActionParsnipnsudo: In future I suggest you use ISO files, they are slightly easier to work with than apple rubbish05:57
gnnrdsprc, I have some issues with nautilus, usually go with one or the other on an install.05:58
gnnrhave had05:58
dsprcActionParsnip: ill try that and see if it helps to clear things up05:59
YourTROLLhello everybody !!05:59
nsudoActionParsnip ok05:59
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gnnri'll have to try what you suggested06:00
allquixoticOn Ubuntu 12.10, I want to have VMware fullscreen on my secondary monitor but the global menu bar at the top keeps painting over the vmware window.. can I disable the global menu for the other monitor?06:00
YourTROLLi want to learn the commands for ubuntu 12.406:01
YourTROLLwhere can i find all of them ?06:01
ActionParsnipYourTROLL: then use it, you will learn as you use it06:01
ActionParsnip!manual | YourTROLL06:02
ubottuYourTROLL: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/06:02
MalimbarIt's hard to dignify responding to someone's questions when their username is YourTROLL06:02
YourTROLLyea but i am new with ubuntu06:02
Malimbarit's like asking for trouble06:02
nsudoActionParsnip anything to replace fcp?06:02
ActionParsnipYourTROLL: thats a good start, there are tonnes of commands. I suggest you use duckduckgo and search for:  !man command     and you'll get a man page (handy)06:02
ActionParsnipnsudo: what is fcp?06:03
nsudoActionParsnip anything to replace final cut pro?06:03
YourTROLLmm okay thank you !!!06:03
nsudoActionParsnip anything to replace final cut pro (video editor ) and motion (vfx) ?06:03
Malimbarfinal cut pro is a pretty high end program. Linux has video editors, but I don't know of any that wel respected06:04
ActionParsnipnsudo: pitivi06:04
Malimbarpitivi is fun :)06:04
ngtActionParsnip: I have done what was written here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591873&page=1 but unfortunately there is nowhere to manually select the driver.06:04
ActionParsnipnsudo: lightworks gets awards too06:04
nsudoActionParsnip cool06:04
ActionParsnipnsudo: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/professional-video-editor-lightworks-shown-off06:05
gnnrActionParsnip, lightworks is available now?06:06
Malimbarit's in limited alpha right now I think06:07
ActionParsnipgnnr: not sure06:07
dsprcblender has some tools that allow you to lay cuts on the time line and do some editing as well06:07
ngtActionParsnip: Furthermore, when ever i tried to print a test page or something else, the status of that job is Completed yet the printer is not printing anything06:07
gnnryea as of 31st hmm06:07
nsudoActionParsnip Thanks06:11
Jordan_Unsudo: Right now most video editing and effects software for GNU/Linux is either frankly not up to par with what's available in the Final Cut Suite, or is only available to those working in companies making blockbuster movies.06:11
gnnri was bad i had to run mac in a vm, to do video editing when I needed it :(06:11
MalimbarI heard you could do that only recently, and it still suprises me that you can06:12
Ali_nz^1gnnr: where do I create a hash?06:13
nsudoJordan_U Ya so true06:14
ActionParsnipdepends what you need06:15
Jordan_Unsudo: That said, the short films from the Blender foundation prove that you can still do amazing things with purely open source software. The latest being "Tears of Steel" here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6MlUcmOul806:16
gnnrAli_nz^1, go here: http://freedns.afraid.org/dynamic/ and click direct url06:17
gnnrin that url is a hash for your subdomain, or you can simply query that url with wget or curl06:17
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undriedseaThis is not working any ideas? Sender: tar c /dir netcat MYIP MYPORT , Recv: netcat -l MYPORT | tar x . Error is: tar: This does not look like a tar archive06:21
nsudoJordan_U Ya Blender is a awesome piece of foss06:22
ActionParsnipundriedsea: ask in #bash too :)06:23
undriedseathanks06:24
Jordan_Unsudo: And since their target was "to improve and test a complete open and free pipeline for visual effects in film", and I haven't tried their tools recently I may have to take back my earlier statement :)06:24
nsudoJordan_U thats a good news !!06:27
yogaHello World! Do I need to disable all the ppa before I dist-upgrade06:30
yoga       from 12.04 to 12.10?06:30
nsudoJordan_U thats movie is awesome06:31
Jordan_Unsudo: Their others are as well, my favorit is still the first though just for story.06:31
nsudoJordan_U does lightworks have a ppa?06:33
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ActionParsnipyoga: I would as a precaution06:35
nsudoActionParsnip how to install lightworks, ppa or terminal?06:36
ActionParsnipnsudo: not sure dude06:36
nsudoActionParsnip alright!06:36
phillijwSo I assigned the hostname06:37
phillijwSo I assigned the hostname 'litterbox' to my machine. How can I access it over the network using this name instead of IP?06:37
ActionParsnipnsudo: i believe its a limited alpha etc06:37
nsudoActionParsnip oh ya, they say a neta release06:38
nsudoActionParsnip nice for ubuntu06:38
nsudoActionParsnip Jordan_U time for apple to shut their pricy acts !06:40
dsprcphillijw: you set the name locally via /etc/hosts or you can let your router handle it via dhcp (assuming it is "intelligent" enough)06:40
phillijwmy router is PfSense06:40
dsprcthen it most certainly is intelligent enough :)06:41
phillijwwhen I do an nslookup from my windows machine it says its a non-existent domain06:42
brandon420sup guys06:42
ActionParsnipphillijw: tried a different nameserver?06:42
phillijwpfsense is my nameserver06:42
dsprcphillijw: are you doing static or dynamic ip allocation?06:45
phillijwhm.. actually it just appears to be my windows machine that's confused and can't find anything... maybe because it's being routed through wireless bullcrap06:45
phillijwdsprc, dynamic06:45
ActionParsnipphillijw: try a web based one, like 8.8.8.806:45
dsprcdid you reboot the machine or ask for a new dhcp lease after you renamed litterbox?06:45
phillijwActionParsnip, I dont think you understand my issue. The problem exists on my internal network. Not the interwebs06:46
ActionParsnipphillijw: ahhh i ee06:46
ArubaDods 0 down vote06:47
ArubaDods06:47
ArubaDodsI made a bootable usbdrive, with AntiX linux on it. it work fine on my new laptop. But on my Old laptop it does not. It give me the message that there is no bootabtle device (something like that).06:47
ArubaDodsIs there anyone who can tells me why?06:47
ArubaDodsps. What I did was, sudo fdisk -l to see the usbdrive I wanted to make bootable sudo dd if=AntiX.iso of=/dev/sdx (in my case sdb).06:47
FloodBot1ArubaDods: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:47
ActionParsnipphillijw: can you ping the dns server?06:47
ActionParsnipArubaDods: antiX linux isn't supported here06:47
brandon420Is there a equalizer for 12.10? Pref something that works system wide...06:49
ArubaDodsok lets say linux, because it did the same with ubuntu server06:49
ActionParsnipArubaDods: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23antix&net=Zoite06:49
ActionParsnipArubaDods: if you want distro independant support, try #linux06:49
ArubaDodsubuntuserver 12.0406:49
ActionParsnipArubaDods: it's not ubuntu server06:50
ActionParsnipArubaDods: the link I gave you takes you to the support channel of your distro06:51
ArubaDodsi try it with both06:51
thedrubHowdy. Do we talk "Mint" on this channel?06:51
wols_!mint06:51
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org06:51
ActionParsnip!mint | thedrub06:51
ubottuthedrub: please see above06:51
thedrubMany thanks all06:51
brandon420ActionParsnip, You seem to know what you are doing, is there a equalizer for ubuntu 12.10?06:52
ActionParsnipbrandon420: like an animation based on sounds played, or one to tweak the outputted sound itself?06:52
gnnrbrandon420, checkout pulseaudio-equalizer, it may not be in the main repositories06:53
brandon420ActionParsnip, to tweak the sound.06:53
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ActionParsnip!info pulseaudio-equalizer06:53
ubottuPackage pulseaudio-equalizer does not exist in quantal06:53
brandon420gnnr, I saw something about that, but I could not find where to download it at, only a "atp install link"06:53
ArubaDodsanyhow, one other question wich one is lighter the xubuntu or lubuntu?06:53
ActionParsnipArubaDods: Lubuntu is slightly lighter06:54
dsprcArubaDods: lubuntu06:54
ActionParsnipArubaDods: if you want super light, install ubuntu minimal then install openbox (no desktop needed) :)06:54
gnnrmaybe someone else has a better option, but I've been using pulseaudio-equalizer for awhile, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/webupd8/quantal/main/base/pulseaudio-equalizer06:55
ActionParsnipbrandon420: sudo add-apt-repositoru ppa:hbars-2/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-equalizer06:56
brandon420Thank you sir!06:56
brandon420<306:56
ArubaDodsActionParsnip, Ok thanks a lot. I use the ubuntu server, but sometimes I want to use only the minimal requierments for watching movies, because its hooked on one of my lcd06:56
thedrubSuggestions for RTL8111/8168B wireless networking? No luck getting it functioning on an HP Pavilion dv706:56
ikthey, does anyone know how to get empathy to sign into jabber on login?06:57
ActionParsnipArubaDods: that is pretty much as light as it gets, you may want to install slim as a login manager too06:57
dsprcArubaDods: if you want something really barebones you can use twm. i think the only dependency is that you have X and glibc06:57
ArubaDodsActionParsnip, I will test the openbox, thanks a lot. I will ask about the dd command somewhere else06:57
ActionParsnipArubaDods: ubuntu minimal + Xorg + openbox is about 1.2Gb installed if memory serves06:59
ActionParsnipArubaDods: if you use /etc/network/interfaces to configure networking you can save space there too :)06:59
talpur Hi community...which command is used to check shell I am using in07:01
talpurbash: -/.bashrc: No such file or directory....So means I am not using bash. what is my shell? csh? zsh? how I check07:02
thedrubtalpur | First "tty" to figure out your tty #. Then "ps" and look for the shell running on the tty.07:02
talpurneed help comunity07:02
ArubaDodsActionParsnip, ok thanks. I was looking for e text editor to save your messages in xfce. but could not find it. I open a terminal and type gedit :-)07:03
ArubaDodsdsprc, thanks for your help07:03
ActionParsnipArubaDods: mousepad07:04
gnnrtalpur, chsh07:04
ActionParsnipArubaDods: you can run:  sudo ln -s `which mousepad` /usr/bin/gedit     to make life easier :)07:04
dsprctalpur: echo $SHELL07:04
ArubaDodsoh! ok hahaha...thanks a lot07:04
talpurthanks thedrub.. I am biggner with ubuntu...can u write me exact command for checking...thanks gnnr and dsprc...i am trying those07:05
ArubaDodsActionParsnip, is ubuntu minimal like a iso which I can download?07:06
ActionParsnip!minimal | ArubaDods07:07
ubottuArubaDods: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD07:07
ActionParsnipArubaDods: a simple websearch would have turned that up. Saves you having to ask......07:07
thedrubtalpur: Type "tty". That lists the tty at which you are typing. Something like "/dev/ttys000", or similar. The "ps" outputs a list of processes and should have the shell name associated with the "ttysXXX". Will show "bash", "sh", etc07:07
ArubaDodshaha...ok thanks07:08
gnnrdid echo $shell not work?07:08
ArubaDodsActionParsnip, haha...ok thanks. will search for it07:08
ActionParsnipgnnr: with a capitall SHELL it outputs:  /bin/bash here :)07:09
gnnrderp07:10
thedrubgnnr | I didn't think $SHELL was absolutely definitive. Could be changed. Perhaps I've missed something.07:10
yaung?07:10
yaung 07:10
yaung 07:10
yaung 07:10
FloodBot1yaung: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:11
gnnrthedrub, oh was just repeating dsprc but said derp because i didn't capitalize07:12
thedrubgnnr |   :-)07:12
Ali_nz^1ActionParsnip: what was that smb share software you suggested before?07:12
samuelhello guys07:14
samuelI am trying to run Ubuntu on a macbook pro 15 inch with retina, however the fonts and icons are tiny07:14
samuelall else is well07:14
samuelis there any way to scale everything up without using a lower resolution?07:15
samuelor at least the font sizes?07:15
phillijwcan anyone recommend a cli bittorrent client?07:15
ActionParsnipAli_nz^1: install samba, that is what gives smb07:15
ActionParsnipsamuel: make the font size bigger in the appearance configs07:15
samuelphillijw: transmission has an nurses client I believe07:15
ActionParsnipphillijw: rtorrent :)07:16
Ali_nz^1ActionParsnip: sorry I thought there was some special software you mentioned about samba users. I assume now its just part of the package07:16
phillijwsamuel, what is transmission?07:16
phillijwActionParsnip, ah nice. I think i've used that one before. Nice simple client07:16
ActionParsnip!info transmission-cli07:16
ubottutransmission-cli (source: transmission): lightweight BitTorrent client (command line programs). In component main, is optional. Version 2.61-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 1188 kB, installed size 2505 kB07:16
samuelActionParsnip: I am sorry, but I must be missing something… I did look for it but its not there… I am on 12.1007:16
gnnrsamuel,  System -> Preferences -> Appearance, select the Fonts tab, click the Details button07:18
ArubaDodsIs there a easy way to get to a network file, using xfce? like ubuntu opening Home folder and see the link in the list 'browse network'?07:18
samuelgnnr: thanks also, but I don't seem to have a fonts tab07:19
samuelI am using a "stock" ubuntu install, might I be missing something?07:19
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gnnrsamuel, apologies, I am not on 12.10. It appears you might want to install Gnome Tweak Tool/Advanced Settings because Gnome has removed some of it's advanced settings by default. You can also try a different window manager07:21
linux_is_my_heroI just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and all of a sudden my gui looks different and everything is slow and the resolution is definately off07:23
samuelgnnr: thanks for the info, I will try those. Do you have any idea on what WM might handle a high DPI display better? I have tried gnome-shell and unity but they don't do so well yet.07:23
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gnnrsamuel, I am a fan of lxde or xfce07:23
samuelxfce works with a high resolution screen?07:24
ActionParsnipsamuel: or install gnome-tweak-tool and tweak there07:24
ActionParsnipsamuel: sure07:24
ActionParsnipsamuel: you could set a higher DPI too and things will get bigger too07:24
samuelActionParsnip: thanks, I will try xfce and the tweak tool07:25
samuelActionParsnip: I did try that, but no luck07:25
samuelin xorg.conf07:25
linux_is_my_heroactionparsnip: why would upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 affect my graphics drivers?07:25
samuelI doubled the DPI hoping that it would make it a quarter as big, but nothing seemed to change07:25
ActionParsniplinux_is_my_hero: sure, you will also get a later XOrg version as well, it all contributes07:26
p0is0ncan anyone link me to a good tutorial for starting programs automatically upon startup, or give me a quick rundown?07:26
ActionParsnipsamuel: I'd go for setting the font larger, should make things look sure smooth07:26
ActionParsnipp0is0n: there is a startup items manager in dash07:26
samuelthanks very much07:26
talpurthanks. thedrub,gnnr and dsprc..talpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ chsh07:27
talpurEnter the new value, or press ENTER for the default07:27
talpurLogin Shell [/bin/bash]:07:27
talpurtalpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ echo $SHELL  /bin/bash07:27
talpurtalpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ tty07:27
FloodBot1talpur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:27
screwssshey, this is dumb asking this here since its to do with windows, but is it better to keep an OS on a seperate partition, or just have the lot on the 1 hard drive.07:27
linux_is_my_heroactionparsnip: by default in 11.10 and 12.04 i had to tell it to use the nVidea drivers but there was a place to do that under system settings.  this is gunna sound really stupid, but where did it go?07:27
p0is0nActionParsnip, I'm using server version so i don't have a gui07:27
talpurthanks thedrub, gnnr and dsprc07:27
talpurtalpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ chsh07:28
talpurEnter the new value, or press ENTER for the default07:28
talpurLogin Shell [/bin/bash]:07:28
ActionParsnipp0is0n: you can add commands in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line and it will run as root07:28
talpurtalpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ echo $SHELL  /bin/bash07:28
ActionParsnipp0is0n: if the command will run for a long time, add an ampersand to the end of the line so that it gets backgrounded and doesn't hang the bootup07:29
talpurtalpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ tty07:29
talpurtalpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ ps07:30
talpur  PID TTY          TIME CMD07:30
talpur 2336 pts/0    00:00:00 bash07:30
talpur 2427 pts/0    00:00:00 ps07:30
FloodBot1talpur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:30
LordOfTime!pastebin | talpur07:30
ubottutalpur: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:30
p0is0nActionParsnip, for example if I want to execute a python script, can I type 'python File.py &&' and it will execute on startup?07:30
ArubaDodsActionParsnip, Nice mini.iso, I have made a bootable usb using that iso with the dd command. And it worked! I am going to play around a little. :-) Thanks a lot.07:31
ActionParsnipp0is0n: yes but you only need one ampersand. If you mark the file as executable you can just name the file and can omit the 'python' word07:31
Ali_nz^1ActionParsnip: Ok. Samba installed and created a share in smb.conf and set security = user07:33
p0is0nActionParsnip, thanks mate. I'll have a read up on exact syntax07:33
Ali_nz^1now how do I create a Samba user that can access only that folder?07:34
ActionParsnipAli_nz^1: sudo smbpasswd -a name07:35
ActionParsnipAli_nz^1: you can then add: allowed users = name   and so forth07:36
devishhi all, i had one question in sleep XX what is the type (ms or sec)?07:39
llutz_devish: sec07:39
devishllutz_: thanks07:39
llutz_devish: "man sleep"07:39
* dsprc man sleep. hacker caffeine. ugh.07:43
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XiaolinDraconisi have a laptop that i believe needs this package (its what i used before) http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/multiverse/base/firmware-b43-installer, what do i need to download so i can transfer it via usb drive?07:54
XiaolinDraconisi got lost when it required fw cutter package, i went to the package at ubuntuupdates.org and that told me the package was an umbrella07:56
XiaolinDraconisno clue what that means07:56
dsprc!b4307:57
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx07:57
XiaolinDraconisthis was so much easier when i let the software center handle dependencies07:57
wols_XiaolinDraconis: that package is actually a script which downloads more software to extract firmware from it07:57
wols_XiaolinDraconis: you still can07:57
XiaolinDraconisno i cant07:57
wols_!info firmware-b43-installer07:57
ubottufirmware-b43-installer (source: b43-fwcutter): Installer package for firmware for the b43 driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:015-14 (quantal), package size 3 kB, installed size 35 kB07:57
wols_you can07:57
XiaolinDraconisthat would require an internet connection07:57
XiaolinDraconis...07:57
wols_use your ethernet then07:58
XiaolinDraconisthats not available this time around07:58
ZlasherHi! I'm having problem with installing Ubuntu on a SD card07:58
ZlasherIt seems like the card is remounted during installation and changes mount name07:59
XiaolinDraconiswould this package not require an internet connection? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/broadcom-sta_5.100.82.112-4.debian.tar.gz08:00
nokiafile transfer speeds. Is this normal. 2gb mp4 file ext4 to ext4 = 5 seconds the same file ext4 to ntfs 2 minutes+ ?08:01
XiaolinDraconisor is that going to need to download stuff too?08:01
wols_XiaolinDraconis: it's not a driver08:01
wols_it's a firmware08:01
crimsonmanenokia: that's normal.08:01
wols_nokia: yes. ntfs is a user space filesystem08:01
XiaolinDraconisthen that makes the information at this page useless, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20No%20Internet%20access08:02
wols_nokia: it's not 5 seconds either unless it's from SSD to SSD08:02
wols_XiaolinDraconis: it's not. stop whining08:02
XiaolinDraconisstop being purposely unhelpful08:03
Jordan_Unokia: No, it's not normal for there to be a descrepency that large between ntfs and ext4, but you're probably misinterpreting what you're seeing.08:03
wols_have a nice day. good luck with your problem. PS: remember, _you_ need help from us08:03
phunyguy_well that isnt very nice.08:04
XiaolinDraconisi need help from helpful people, not someone who is going to give me the run around08:04
XiaolinDraconisvague is not a sexy look08:04
wols_!errors ! Zlasher08:05
ubottuwols_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:05
wols_Zlasher: a sdcard is (usually) just a mass storage device like any other, so it shouldn't make any trouble. but you need to be more specific for people to help you08:05
phunyguy_x1fail.08:05
hugohugo08:06
Jordan_Unokia: If you had run "sync" after making that "5 second" copy from ext4 to ext4 you probably would have had to wait at least two minutes for "sync" to complete (which means that all data is actually on disk). I'm guessing that you did the ext4 to ntfs copy either after the ext4 to ext4 copy (so the original transaction, which was in memory but not committed to disk was taking up RAM) or for other reasons didn't have much free RAM ...08:06
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Jordan_U... for the transaction to be cached in.08:06
wols_Jordan_U: could be that ntfs is always synced to preven corruption issues or maybe it has to be since it's userspace08:07
Zlasherwols_, How can I be more specific? It doesn't work because the card get remounted?08:07
handuel'ello08:07
Jordan_Uwols_: I doubt that either is the case but I can't say for sure.08:07
wols_when does the error occur, how do you know it's remounted, what is the error message, etc. lots of things you don't mention08:07
phunyguy_x1wols_, relax.  We are here to help, not berate.08:08
wols_phunyguy_x1: do you have a ubuntu related problem?08:08
XiaolinDraconiswols_, do you have an attitude problem?08:09
phunyguy_x1:-/08:09
* phunyguy_x1 hands wols_ a beer.08:09
handuelto be fair on wols_ it is hideously annoying when someone asks a question without giving information08:11
Jordan_UZlasher: What error messages are you seeing from Ubiquity (Ubuntu's installer)? How are you checking the mountpoint?08:11
ZlasherThe error happens during different phases during the installation depending on when it gets remounted. I don't remember the exact error message but it was something with that the device wasn't  reachable or available08:11
wols_that sounds more like your controller or card craps out and gets non responsive08:12
phunyguy_x1handuel, also to be fair, all questions are welcome, and if info is needed, it can be requested.08:12
handuelit happens a lot on launchpad, you just get people going "ubuntu is broken" and expect us to know what to do from that08:12
ZlasherI get thown back to the paritioning step and there I see that the number in the mount name has increased08:12
phunyguy_x1this is ubuntu support, not gentoo.08:12
wols_Zlasher: what device name exactly has "increased"?08:12
Zlashersda#08:12
wols_!ot | phunyguy_x108:12
ubottuphunyguy_x1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:12
wols_Zlasher: that number at the end cannot increase08:13
ZlasherCannot?08:13
wols_a partition is always sda1 and never can be sda2 unless you purposely rewrite the partition table08:13
wols_yes cannot08:13
Jordan_UZlasher: That number is the partition number, it can only change if the partition table changes.08:13
dsprcZlasher: after you add a partition to sda it will be sda1. then add another it will be sda2 etc etc08:13
arunkumar413hi, i want to pinch zoom using the touch pad. How can i do it in ubuntu08:14
Jordan_UZlasher: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg" after a failure?08:14
ZlasherBut it reset when I restart the installation08:14
wols_Zlasher: sure. if you create a new partition only08:14
dsprc!pastebin | Zlasher08:15
ubottuZlasher: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:15
talpurI need help comunity to reslove the problem08:15
talpurtalpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:/mnt$ sudo chroot -08:15
talpurchroot: cannot change root directory to -: No such file or directory08:15
llutz_talpur: path missing, "-" isn't a valind path to chroot to most likely08:15
wols_talpur: you need to chroot to a directory. like "sudo chroot /mnt/tmp" and this directory must actually exist08:15
Jordan_Utalpur: You can't chroot into stdin, it doesn't even make sense. What is your end goal?08:15
XiaolinDraconiswols_, http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/96885-has-anyone-noticed-ubuntu-s-forums-and-irc-rooms-have-gotten-ruder08:15
phunyguy_x1wols_ I know what this channel is for, but you don't have to be rude to everyone that may or may not know the proper question-asking procedures.08:15
phunyguy_x1I've said my piece.08:16
ZlasherThe error message and the dmsg. Should I get anything more when I'm already at it?08:16
Jordan_UZlasher: Screenshots of the partitioning screen in the installer before and after would be good.08:16
khussein78I am go back to use classic gnome with ubuntu 12.04 but switching between opened windows by alt + tab not working ?08:17
handueltalpur do you want chroot .08:17
handuelit chroots to the current directory08:17
Jordan_UZlasher: To get those you'll need to chose the "Try without installing" option (which, despite how it sounds, still allows you to start the installer from the Desktop, but in a window where you can access other tools like the screenshot tool).08:17
talpurwols and Jordan I am working with GEM5 ....I follow ths steps for images using qemu and follow the steps given about that in youtube video08:17
Jordan_Utalpur: Please link to the instructions you're following.08:18
wols_talpur: then give us the youtube video link and tell us at which timestamp that instruction occurs08:18
BWorldHi there, is there someone known with the GTX670-DC2-2GD5 graphics card having no transparency? I have installed the nvidia drivers but still no transparency..08:18
Jordan_U!tab | talpur08:18
ubottutalpur: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.08:18
ZlasherJordan_U, Thanks!! Will do!08:18
Jordan_UZlasher: You're welcome :)08:19
wols_BWorld: how do you check this transparency?08:20
talpurok . the video is"www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh3NK12fnbg" working with image file useing qemu...@ timestemp 5 minutes08:21
BWorldwols_, the dash is black, I turned on transparency in terminal as well and it is transparent but I only see the desktop while there is actually another application running behind the terminal08:21
wols_talpur: "sudo chroot ." is what is written there08:22
talpurI am watching video on other system so I write the link. at my place youtube is blocked so I use hotspot at other system08:22
talpurwols sorry I couldn't understand what u want to know08:22
talpurwols thanks...I was using - instead of fullstop .08:23
BWorldwols_, do you think you know what the problem is?08:23
wols_talpur: I don't want to know anything. the command there is "sudo chroot ." a dot, not -08:23
talpurthanks wols its working08:23
handuellol I told him that five minutes ago08:24
talpuryes Wols  I understand08:24
talpurwols this is the actually problem I got in some other statments also....I am very much thank full wols and Jordan_U for response08:25
dsprcBWorld: that is the default pseudo transparency. i think you need to enable the 3D effects for "real" transpar08:25
Jordan_Utalpur: You're welcome.08:25
wols_BWorld: glxinfo |grep -i render08:26
BWorlddsprc, Hmm, is there an easy way to do this you know of?08:26
BWorldwols_, here is output: http://pastebin.com/mtaUYX8808:27
dsprcBWorld: not a clue how it is usually done these days. used to just right click the desktop and could do it from there08:29
BWorlddsprc, this easy... haha will try08:29
dsprcBWorld: dont know if the options are still there. havent used the "default" DE/WM setup for a while08:30
BWorlddsprc, option is not there... looked into my nvidia settings and in my compiz UI as well but no luck there either...08:33
BWorlddsprc, is this setting '3d settings' google-able because when I google on it how to enable it I get results related to compiz but I dont think this is relevant ...08:34
BWorlddsprc, I will try another driver from the 'Additional drivers' window, need to reboot, thanks for help so far08:37
FekkuoI need help. I have two Ubuntu systems installed, the second one installed GRUB. Now I want to delete the second one, but I'm afraid that may remove GRUB and I'll be unable to boot the old system. What should I do? Is there a command line for that?08:37
bekksFekkuo: Just boot into the first one, install a boot loader, and delete the second one.08:38
blackshirtbekks, just tell the grub not loading second one08:39
FekkuoIs there a command line to install the bootloader, honorable bekks?08:39
blackshirtbekks, sorry for worng notice08:39
blackshirt:d08:39
Fekkuo=d08:40
bekksblackshirt: Thats not that easy. Because when you delete the second one, and you delete the /boot that grub relies on, you get a broken system.08:40
bekksblackshirt: Fekkuo: Thats why I said to properly install a boot loader from the first one.08:40
Jordan_UFekkuo: "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX" where "sdX" is the drive you want to install grub's boot sector to, and should be something like "sda" or "sdb" but *not* a partition like "sda1".08:41
XiaolinDraconisis there a way to make 12.04 search usb drive for packages?08:42
Jordan_UFekkuo: You should also have a LiveCD/USB on hand just in case, and if something goes wrong you can follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot .08:42
XiaolinDraconisive gotten every deb file i could possibly need to install this wireless driver, but they all need fwcutter and it requires internet to get the drivers i already have on usb08:43
FekkuoJordan-U; I've tried that once and it said it's a BAD idea; only if I used blocklists, and it said it's unreliable.08:43
Jordan_UFekkuo: You probably passed grub-install the wrong device. Again, it should be a drive (like /dev/sda) not a partition (like /dev/sda1).08:44
mah454Hello08:44
FekkuoI was thinking of deleting the second system with Gparted and running "$ sudo update-grub" or something, to see what happens. But I'm really afraid it doesn't work and I will have broken system.08:44
FekkuoOH!08:45
gordonjcpFekkuo: the worst thing that'll happen is you get to reinstall08:45
mah454I want to compile new kernel (3.6.4) but make initrd image in very big size !08:45
mah454about 130M08:45
Jordan_UFekkuo: update-grub only re-writes /boot/grub/grub.cfg , which doesn't help you here.08:45
bekksFekkuo: Then create a bootable USB medium as Jordan_U suggested - that will leave a chance to get your system back.08:45
mah454How can fix this problem ?08:45
FekkuoJordan_U: Easy like that :o08:45
bekksmah454: Why is a 130M initrd a problem to you?08:45
Jordan_UFekkuo: I don't understand your last comment.08:45
mah454bekks: default is about 40M08:46
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ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:46
asilhouettemy wireless sucks with the new linux kernel, what should i do?08:46
FekkuoJordan_U; bekks; blackshirt: sorry for taking your time. Thank you so much.08:46
wols_asilhouette: which wlan chip?08:46
bekksmah454: And why is that critical to you then? The initrd size is determined by all the modules you activated for being compiled.08:46
bekksasilhouette: Which new kernel?08:47
Jordan_UXiaolinDraconis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access08:47
FekkuoI ran '$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda' and it worked.08:47
Jordan_UFekkuo: No problem , you're welcome :)08:47
asilhouettebeks wols_ 3.5 kernel gives problem, with rt2800usb08:47
bekksasilhouette: Which kernel (update) exactly do you mean?08:48
asilhouettelinux 3.5 that came with ubuntu 12.10 update, bekks08:48
asilhouettei don't quite remember the exact version after 3.508:49
wols_asilhouette: uname -a tells you the exact version08:49
asilhouettew8 update grub gives the linux versions08:50
asilhouettei'm on 3.2 right now08:50
asilhouette3.5.0-17-generic is the one giving me problem. bekks wols_08:50
mah454bekks: edit /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf and change MODULES=most to MODULES=dep08:51
mah454fixed !08:51
asilhouettethe network manager connects but the the signal dissapears with signal strength going unknown and iwconfig doesn't think the driver is connected to anything08:51
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, the proprietary package (wl) mentioned in that article does not work on my laptop, i need to install b43-firmware-installer, which doesnt seem to be listed in the "no internet access" section08:52
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, ive had that article as well as 3 or 4 other tabs open for the last hour, reading away and attempting what i can, it seems like i have no choice but to install this fwcutter package08:53
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, going on 2 hours now08:53
Jordan_UXiaolinDraconis: The b43 driver is the *only* one mentioned in the "no internet access" section.08:54
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, thats the proprietary driver and it doesnt work08:55
Jordan_UXiaolinDraconis: No, b43 is the open source driver.08:55
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, my apologies, i just realized i had the STA no internet page open08:56
Jordan_UXiaolinDraconis: np :)08:57
lkthomas-homehey guys08:57
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, ive already gotten the fwcutter package like these instructions mention but the "install" button in software center will not let me click it08:57
lkthomas-homeplasma desktop is very buggy, if I want to use traditional full desktop, what should I install ?08:58
bekkslkthomas-home: x/l/ubuntu-desktop08:58
lkthomas-homewhich one is KDE ?08:59
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, strike that, i see why08:59
asilhouetteany help with linux kernel 3.5.0-17 problem with rt2800usb wireless driver08:59
dsprcXiaolinDraconis: if you have manually gathered up all the dependencies you can install them with dpkg08:59
XiaolinDraconisdsprc, thanks thats the step i just got to08:59
asilhouetteworks fine with 3.2.0.3208:59
lkthomas-homebekks: I don't want to use plasma workspace, any other KDE desktop I could use ?08:59
bekkslkthomas-home: There is only one KDE desktop.09:00
talpurWols and Jordan....I need the help in video of which I send the link at timestamp 6:12 author use the scp..can you help me to understand that command: root@bpayne-Virtualbox64:/#  scp bpayne@10.10.10.129:/home/bpayne/bench.c09:00
lkthomas-homebekks: it's all replaced by KDE plasmaworkspace ?!09:01
bekkstalpur: That command is invalid - at least one option is missing.09:01
bekkslkthomas-home: Starting with kde 4.x, plasma is the default desktop.09:01
lkthomas-homebekks: is that possible to NOT use plasma ?09:02
talpurroot@bpayne-Virtualbox64:/#  scp bpayne@10.10.10.129:/home/bpayne/bench.c .  bekks now see09:02
dsprctalpur: scp user@server:/path/to/remote/file   /path/to/local/dir/09:02
bekkstalpur: It securly copies the file /home/bpayne/bench.c from the host 10.10.10.129 to your current directory.09:03
bekkslkthomas-home: No.09:03
bekkslkthomas-home: Just use another desktop environment.09:03
talpurthanks bekks....its not working I try it agian09:04
dsprcbekks: or not use one at all. framebuffer console is quite comfy.09:04
5EXAADXDZhi .. you know whta vesrion of glibc is in ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10?09:06
talpurbekks is for local server for the user bpayne or from my prompt I also use the same cammnad...09:06
bekkstalpur: I dont understand you last comment.09:07
ZlasherOkey! I now have the dmesg http://pastebin.com/82CjMKA2 and screenshots http://i.imgur.com/eRZBZ.png09:07
lkthomas-homecrap, whenever I click "Page One" on plasma desktop, it hangs09:07
dsprctalpur: see my last comment. the 'user@server' would be your login on the remote system09:07
ZlasherJordan_U, Still there?09:10
Jordan_UZlasher: Yes.09:11
ZlasherJordan_U: I now have the dmesg http://pastebin.com/82CjMKA2 and screenshots http://i.imgur.com/eRZBZ.png09:11
Jordan_UZlasher: It looks like there was a hardware failure.09:14
ZlasherI think it's a driver issue09:14
Jordan_UZlasher: Are you sure that the SD card and the SD card reader are good?09:14
ZlasherIs there any way to check the sectors of the sd card?09:14
Jordan_UZlasher: Not likely, all SD card readers present themselves as USB Mass Storage devices, and the drivers for those are very mature.09:15
Jordan_UZlasher: You can use a command called "badblocks".09:15
ZlasherI've used the reader with a smaller card a long time ago09:15
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, is step 3 of those instructions expecting me to extract the tar to /lib? so far the instructions say to extract to home folder but then step  3 says to run the command on a file in /lib09:15
ZlasherAnd the card in another reader just a couple of days ago and it worked fine09:15
Hrkihi, where i can simply add scripts that i want autorun on system up09:17
Jordan_UZlasher: I've personally had a lot of bad luck with SD cards.09:17
ZlasherJordan_U, Oh! I almost forgot! I installed Ubuntu on this card with another computer not long time ago, but that time the Grub installation screwed up my windows drive09:17
ZlasherJordan_U, Lot's of people say that and I can now do the same xD09:18
lkthomas-homehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207534909:18
Jordan_UXiaolinDraconis: That is correct, the firmware needs to go into /lib/firmware/ for the driver to be able to find it.09:18
Jordan_UZlasher: It can't hurt to confirm with badblocks (while the option for a read/write test could add wear to the card, the default read-only test shouldn't).09:19
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, thought that was the case but i tend to follow instructions to the tee, when i understand them that is. thanks for the info09:19
Jordan_UXiaolinDraconis: You're welcome.09:19
Jordan_UXiaolinDraconis: Wait, I may have misunderstood your question. The instructions as written are correct.09:20
lkthomas-homeguys, does KDE have anything for social networking like facebook widget ?09:20
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, ill double check what i am reading and get right back to you09:21
Jordan_UXiaolinDraconis: You extract the tar to the current directory, then b43-fwcutter reads the driver from the current directory, extracts the firmware from the driver, and saves the firmware in /lib/firmware/ .09:22
Jordan_UZlasher: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?09:22
talpurwhen I use the commnad this Error Occurs. root@talpur-Inspiron-1564:/# scp bpayne@10.10.10.129:/home/bpayne/bench.c .09:22
talpurssh: connect to host 10.10.10.129 port 22: Connection timed out09:22
ZlasherJordan_U, When I do the installation? Or now?09:22
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, ok so ill need to cd into the directory and run fwcutter command on the file?09:23
Jordan_UZlasher: Now, just so that I can confirm the device name so I can give you an exact badblocks command.09:23
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, ok cd wouldnt be necessary if i extract it to home09:24
talpurHi community can u help me to recognize the reason of Error root@talpur-Inspiron-1564:/# scp bpayne@10.10.10.129:/home/bpayne/bench.c .09:24
talpurssh: connect to host 10.10.10.129 port 22: Connection timed out09:24
Jordan_UXiaolinDraconis: No. Follow the instructions exactly as given and it should work.09:24
llutz_talpur:what os/distro are you running on 10.10.10.129?09:25
talpurllutz: I follow the Video on youtube for Gem5 image file using qemu09:26
llutz_talpur: you have installed ssh-server there and checked it is running? you have a user named bpayne on that host?09:26
talpurthe author of video said using bench marks he built is running09:27
lkthomas-homeany shortcut key for search and launch on kde 4.9 ?09:28
talpurllutz: no my user name is talpur...So what will be my command on my system...how check the server as already said me bekk:09:28
ZlasherJordan_U, http://pastebin.com/LpPkgGhv09:29
llutz_talpur: login at the server, run "sudo lsof -i :22". you want to read some basic tutorials on ssh/sscp usage aswell09:29
llutz_scp*09:29
llutz_talpur: blindly typing what you see in an obscure youtube-video won't bring you anywhere. try to _understand_ what the guy does09:30
apgGuys, I would like ask a question regarding ext4. Do you consider it mature enough? I read news about some bug related to ext309:31
apgsorry it should be some bug related to ext409:31
Jeregge343my micro and speaker doesn't work.  i yesterday  install ubuntu. what i must do with it09:32
talpurllutz: thanks for your valuable suggestion09:32
Jordan_UZlasher: I'm going to guess from that that your SD card is /dev/sdb, but it's not clear from that output.09:32
ZlasherJordan_U, It is09:33
Jordan_UZlasher: OK. Try running "sudo badblocks -v /dev/sdb".09:33
talpurhow I check the IP of my system from command prompt09:34
llutz_talpur: ip addr show09:34
llutz_apg: ext4 is stable and fine. if you refer to the latest ext4-bug, you want to read about the conditions it _may_ occur and how big the chances are, that you will be affected by it. also there's a bugfix out09:36
talpurllutz: it shows the big detail...I couldn't recognize my system Ip....sorry to bother u again and agian09:36
llutz_talpur: what iface are you using?09:37
talpurterminal based09:37
llutz_talpur: eth0,wlan0, ppp0? ip addr show eth0   <- replace this by your network-iface in use09:38
talpurthanks llutz:09:38
XiaolinDraconisJordan_U, stuck at step 4, opened additional drivers and nothing shows up, the broadcom file was copied to my home folder and i copied and pasted the 2 commands09:39
llutz_talpur: or just watch the output from before, search the block containing your iface and search for "inet..." theres an ip-address shown (most likely)09:39
Jordan_UXiaolinDraconis: Try simply using modprobe as they explain for LiveCD/USB environments.09:40
ZlasherJordan_U, Does badblocks output bad blocks?09:41
arunkumar413how to pinch zoom in ubuntu09:42
Jordan_UZlasher: Yes.09:43
ZlasherJordan_U, Then I have a *** load of bad blocks09:43
ZlasherThe buffer is filled09:43
Jordan_UZlasher: That confirms it then.09:44
ZlasherJordan_U, Is there any way to test this on Windows too? Do you think cygwin can run badblocks?09:44
ZlasherBecause my other computer, the one were the card ran fine, is running windows09:45
Jordan_UZlasher: I am sure that there are equivalent utilities on Windows, and badblocks itself is probably available via cygwin also.09:45
Jordan_UZlasher: For that though ask in ##windows.09:46
ZlasherI'll test that too09:46
ZlasherBig thanks!09:46
ZlasherI'll leave for lunch now09:46
snoozieJordan_U, you are a genius. thanks for the help once again09:46
snoozieJordan_U, my girl will be happy she doesnt have to use windows anymore09:47
ZlasherI completely agree with snoozie! Thanks for sharing you knowledge!09:47
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Jordan_Usnoozie: You're welcome, though I don't remember at the moment what I helped you with :)09:47
snoozieXiaolinDraconis09:47
Jordan_Usnoozie: Ahh. You're welcome :)09:48
phong_how to make bittorrent as default program?09:48
phong_instead of transmission09:48
arunkumar413where do i find the ubuntu merchandise design files09:50
Ritleelooking for scripting help09:51
smwRitlee, so ask the question09:51
coz_Ritlee,  I am not much with scripting, however, if no one here has any helping advice you can also try the ##linux channel09:52
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coz_sonic_ was mucj nicer :)09:52
llutz_Ritlee: #bash  for bash-scripting help09:52
smwRitlee, if you don't ask a question, you are unlikely to get much help :-)09:52
Ritleeahh ty llutz09:52
Ritleelol sorry was pasting the script into pastebin09:53
Ritleeso I have a conditional in there and I wan it to work with this condition or that condition09:53
Ritleehttp://pastebin.com/182wzQf809:53
smwRitlee, what do you mean?09:54
RitleeLine 8 is where the condition resides09:54
RitleeI would like to have one or the other condition to work ie, [[ $file1 =~ S(..)E(..) ]] or [[ $file1 =~ (..)x(..) ]]09:55
Ritleefor the ONE condition if it's true I continue it with && but I want if this condition is true or that condition is true09:56
smw( [[ $file1 =~ S(..)E(..) ]] || [[ $file1 =~ (..)x(..) ]])09:56
Jordan_URitlee: That code is frankly almost unreadable. Please add comments, use $() instead of ``, and unless you have something preventing you from doing so replace your while loop with "for file in *.mp4 *.avi; do".09:57
Ritleewith the () surrounding it I can continue the && ?09:57
slopjongif I choose a partition for the bootloader, is the mbr then untouched?09:57
smwRitlee, yes09:57
exanhey guys, i just added a few commands to my rc.local but doesn't seem to work09:57
exancan anyone take a look at this and tell me what I did wrong? http://pastebin.com/ayfzwwNj09:57
slopjongI'm installing ubuntu aside arch linux and I prefer to add the grub entries myself09:58
bekksexan: You did not use absolute paths for your commands.09:58
MasterOfDisasterexan: try bash -xv /etc/rc.local to troubleshoot09:58
Jordan_Uslopjong: The partition table will still be changed if you add/resize any partitions, but the boot code won't change. Why don't you want to change the MBR though (The MBR is the correct place for grub's boot sector).09:58
slopjongi already created it in arch09:58
Ritleethank you, both of you09:58
exanbekks, can you explain what you mean please? I'm new to this.09:58
bekksexan: MasterOfDisaster: whe the rc.local is executed, there is no environment, and no $PATH set.09:59
slopjongJordan_U, because there's already a bootloader09:59
bekksexan: Use /usr/bin/python instead of python. Use the full path.09:59
exanoh right. even the sabnzbd command didn't work09:59
Jordan_Uslopjong: What bootloader? Why do you want that bootloader in the MBR rather than grub?09:59
exanusually that's all I have to type into a session09:59
slopjonggrub2 ;-)09:59
MasterOfDisasterexan: and don't forget, it09:59
MasterOfDisaster's running as root10:00
smwRitlee, [[ 1 == 0 || 2 == 2 ]] also works10:00
smwRitlee, with the || in the test10:00
exanMasterOfDisaster, does that mean sab would be started as root user?10:00
MasterOfDisasterexan: yes10:00
bekksexan: correct.10:00
exanoh I don't want that. thanks10:00
exanmaybe back to the drawing board..10:01
MasterOfDisasterexan: you could use sudo -u <user>, but I'd suggest launching software at user logon10:01
slopjongJordan_U, there's no option "none" so I have to choose the most appropriate select option in my case10:01
Jordan_Uslopjong: If you're using grub as your primary bootloader anyway then you don't need a boot sector anywhere, you can (and should) load grub via multiboot rather than chainloading. So for that case it makes sense to tell Ubuntu's installer to install grub's boot sector to a partition, not because you'll actually every *use* that partition's boot record, but as a way to get it to create a /boot/grub/core.img without complaining or ...10:01
MasterOfDisasterexan: e.g. .xinitrc, .kde/Autostart/*, etc.10:01
Jordan_U... modifying the MBR.10:02
exanMasterOfDisaster, I'm running ubuntu server so I don't ever logon except via ssh10:02
marcusanyone know how to get a working screenshot taker ? lubuntu 12.10, i tried 3 of them but they wont 1. use hotkeys or 2. crop the picture from selection..10:02
slopjongok thanks for the confirmation that the mbr remains untouched :)10:03
Jordan_Uslopjong: Then indeed, your Ubuntu partition is as good as "none".10:03
MasterOfDisasterexan: ok, then sudo it is. have a look at upstart as well, launching a service that way is piece of cake (/etc/init/*)10:03
coz_marcus,  there are a few out there including gimp,, let me check10:03
Jordan_Uslopjong: You're welcome :)10:03
marcusscreenshot taker, not screenshot editing software..10:03
coz_marcus,  gimp also takes screenshots  but hold on10:04
MasterOfDisastermarcus: I'm using ksnapshot10:04
exanMasterOfDisaster, I just looked at upstart.. looks promising, thanks :)10:04
coz_marcus,   mtpaint takes screenshots for one10:04
marcusk i try if any work..10:05
MasterOfDisasterexan: it's the ubuntu way of launching services, so this is to be prefered over traditional system v or rc.local10:05
coz_marcus,   here is a link to read   http://www.lubuntutips.com/2011/12/lubuntu-screenshots.html#.UJY9yXZhNTM10:05
exanMasterOfDisaster, thanks for the tip :)10:05
coz_marcus,  I have seen mtpaint mentioned a few times for lubuntu screenshots10:07
coz_marcus,  I am installing it now to test10:08
bekkscoz_: Pressing "print screen" on your keyboard should trigger the default screenshot application.10:09
marcuskk, im trying the tutorial, @master~ ksnapshot didnt work with print screen...10:09
coz_bekks,  yes it should,  he will need an editor however for croping etc10:09
paolobuongiorno a tutti10:11
marcuscoz, i want no gui to start, auto cropped and prt screen, possible ?.. :{ to capture fast in games10:14
coz_MarcelT3,  ttesting it now but cant find screenshot option,, are you runniing compiz?10:14
coz_MarcelT3,  sorry10:15
coz_marcus that was for you10:15
marcuskk10:15
marcusdont know10:15
marcusi use scrot on print screen, but dont know autocrop :{10:15
coz_marcus,   mm,, I know compiz has a cool screenshot tool ,, drag over the area to be captured,, and gimp,, also,, gimp 2.8 but you need a PPA  for that10:16
marcusi have gimp10:16
marcus2.8.. xd10:16
marcus??10:17
esel-pcHi all10:17
coz_marcus,   I think under File --> Create --> Screenshot,, but let me check gimp 2.8 here hold on10:17
talpurHi comunity I am trying to copy bench.c from the remote user ip 10.10.10.129 I know the user name but when I use the command scp username@10.10.10.129:/mycomputer/ bench.c .          now error occurs ssh: connect to host 10.10.10.129 port 22: Connection timed out10:17
esel-pcspricht hier einer deutsch10:18
marcusok, possible fast ?10:18
bekks!de | esel-pc10:18
ubottuesel-pc: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!10:18
coz_marcus,   it works fine in gimp,, and fast  and it opens immediately in gimp for edition10:18
coz_marcus,   editing rather10:18
esel-pcok thanks10:18
bekkstalpur: Your host 10.10.10.129 does not provide a SSH server.10:18
marcusneed auto edit XDD10:18
coz_mm10:19
coz_marcus,  out of curiosity,  in terminal    type   compiz  --version10:19
talpurBekk:..So what should other way to copy from that host if doesn't have ssh10:19
marcuscompiz not installed10:20
coz_marcus,  ah ok10:20
talpurbekks: So how I get copy of that file,,any alternate10:21
marcusu think wine works??10:22
coz_marcus,  for screen shots?  no  unless it can install a windows screenshot tool which i wouldnt recommend10:22
jacklkHello, on my Ubuntu VPS I am having a problem starting a program. I run ./name_of_program and it says it's not found. I'm in the directory it's in, and I have chmodded it to 777 but still it wont run. What should I do?10:23
TuxLofchmod +x10:23
TuxLofto make it executable10:23
marcusGadwin is pretty good, i used it, i will try10:23
bekkstalpur: you have to setup a ssh server on the box you want to copy files from.10:23
jacklkTuxLof: Still says it's not found.10:24
bekkstalpur: Whats the IP of your computer?10:24
marcusseems to work, but how do i remove scrot ? it says when removing : removing following packages, lxde-desktop scrot10:25
slopjongthe default window manager just makes me aggressive10:26
coz_marcus,  you can reinstall lubuntu-desktop    .. did you use  sudo apt-get remove scrot  ?10:26
marcusyes10:27
marcusbut i didnt press y10:27
coz_marcus,  ok10:27
marcusgui wont dissapear ? :[10:27
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coz_marcus,  scrot is default install//yes?10:27
marcusyes10:27
coz_marcus,  out of curiosity,  why Lubuntu?10:28
dinoit's great10:29
coz_:)10:29
marcusits quick, i hate the lag on ubuntu gnome :{10:29
dino what's about linux mint10:29
coz_marcus,  understood10:29
marcuslag 2 / 3 computers..10:29
coz_sorry about that10:30
marcusok, i will try uninstall ty man..10:30
marcusbye XD10:30
coz_darn10:30
dinoQ10:31
talpurbekks: I couldn't recognize my IP using command ip addr show...its a large detail...I am not frequent user of linux so is there any command that just show only Ip10:31
iceroottalpur: ifconfig10:33
Ritleegot another question, how do I cleanly pull line a specific line # from a file? I think I remember sed being used effectively for it?10:33
bekkstalpur: Then pastebin the output of the command "ifconfig -a" please.10:34
bekks!paste | talpur10:34
ubottutalpur: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:34
Ritlee*pull a specific line # ..10:34
gryghello guys, can you recommend any apache +php+ mysql server for USB? Not linux distro but just server so it autostarts when pendrive is plugged in?10:34
icerootgryg: offtopic here10:34
grygiceroot, ok, so any suggestions where I should ask?10:34
icerootgryg: ##hardware or somethink like that or #ubuntu-offtopic10:35
grygk10:35
alo21I would like to set python 3 as default interpreter, How can I do?10:36
Ritleein a bash script how can I pull a specific line from a file?10:39
unrarhi10:40
bond__i am using this command for local port forwading: ssh -f amitsingh@10.22.254.75 -L *:9903:10.22.254.75:22 -N and getting following errors: bind: Address already in use;   channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 9903;   Could not request local forwarding. Can anybody help me?10:40
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Jordan_URitlee: Try asking in #bash.10:41
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unrarsorry for nick flood10:41
unrarxchat error10:41
newpsHi10:48
newpsHow do I detect my wireless card if the interface reports that the device doesn't exist?10:48
wiehanI am in agony. Real Pain. I need help with ubuntu "custom install" or rather help with the advanced partitioning tool @ install. I have tried it about ten times and everytime after install when grub loads it gives all sorts of errors, things like no drive @ location or please insert drive. I believe it has something to do with my choices of partitions rather than my setup and the fact that I want to use btrfs10:48
bond___i am using this command for local port forwading: ssh -f amitsingh@10.22.254.75 -L *:9903:10.22.254.75:22 -N and getting following errors: bind: Address already in use;   channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 9903;   Could not request local forwarding. Can anybody help me?10:49
bekksbond___: That named port is already in use.10:49
bekksbond___: Either find out why it is used (lsof -i) or use another port.10:50
bond___bekks: i changed it to many.. and i crosschecked it through netstat command also10:50
Jordan_Uwiehan: Where did you tell the installer to install grub's boot sector, did Ubuntu's installer give any error messages, and what is the exact error message from grub?10:51
wiehanHi Jordan_U. My setup: hda (1 TB); hdb (ssd) - So I want my /home obviously at sda1 and my / @ sdb1. Then I install the MBR on sda.. Which of these may and may not be btrfs? I understand that btrfs is better for ssds as that certain 'flags' are automatically set for use on such a drive and that for ext4 one has to do effort post install to optimize it better10:53
bekkswiehan: You should not use btrfs for anything thats important. /boot and /btrfs should not be on btrfs, /home neither.10:54
Jordan_Uwiehan: They can all be btrfs, but understand that btrfs is still experimental and if you want a stable reliable system it's probably not worth it to use btrfs yet.10:54
wiehanJordan_U, I can't remember the exact error messages: The first time it 'booted' to a grub recovery console after an uncertain error message about cannot find drive with uuid awe123uie123 (or something alike) and the second time it was just "cannot find drive, please insert drive" - ubuntu installer gave no problems10:54
bekksAnd those "flags" you talk about are the same as "discard" for ext4.10:55
Jordan_Uwiehan: grub never asks to insert a drive, so that must have been something else printing that error.10:55
stefaanhi all10:55
wiehanJordan_U, yeah I know, it must have been a problem with the MBR and the ?bios printed that last one? I don't know10:56
Jordan_Ubekks: No, they aren't. btrfs's ssd mode doesn't even change discard settings (as online discard can perform very poorly with some drives).10:56
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wiehanJordan_U, bekks let's simplify this: something went wrong with the following choices: sda1 /home  btrfs, sdb1 / btrfs; MBR on sda... why did this not work?10:58
Jordan_Uwiehan: I would need to know the exact error messages from grub, and probably also see boot info script output, to tell you.10:59
wiehanor rather, what should I change for this to work? Make another /boot partition in the sda with ext4?10:59
wiehanJordan_U, the one I got most of the time was: Cannot find device with UUID xxxxxx then next line: grub>11:00
Jordan_Uwiehan: What version of Ubuntu did you try to install?11:01
newpsGuys, how do I get Ubuntu to detect my wireless card? It never gets detected on boot up, and only works once I switch back from a Windows boot.11:01
bekkswiehan: Because grubc cannot be loaded from btrfs as far as I know.11:01
wiehan12.10, Jordan_U11:01
Jordan_Ubekks: Grub can read btrfs.11:01
wiehanJordan_U, isn't it that / may be btrfs but /boot must still be ext411:02
icerootwiehan: no11:02
Jordan_Uwiehan: grub has full support for btrfs, including /boot/.11:02
wiehanJordan_U, should the MBR be on sda or sda1?11:03
Jordan_Uwiehan: definitely sda.11:03
Jordan_Uwiehan: Well, sda or sdb, but certainly not a partition like sda1 or sdb1.11:04
wiehanJordan_U, and for some reason the advanced partitioning tool left 1mb free space before the sda1 partition (this cannot be avoided)11:04
Jordan_Uwiehan: That's because aligning to MiB boundaries is the right thing to do for performance reasons.11:05
wiehanJordan_U, thanks I am learning a lot now; One more thing: what fs is the "best" for use on a ssd?11:06
zenx<wiehan> http://www.howtogeek.com/62761/how-to-tweak-your-ssd-in-ubuntu-for-better-performance/11:07
Jordan_Uwiehan: Right now, for most use cases, probably ext4.11:07
wiehanthanks11:07
zenxplus if you have lots of ram just decrease vm.swapiness11:08
VivaLaEvolucionuygg11:25
MissDjaxhi11:30
Robr3rdI need help seeing my GUI again in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with Unity. On my primary account, I have suddenly lost my deskop environments (GNOME/Unity -- including the GNOME fallback) after a hard reset. On this secondary account, however, all is fine. Any assistance?11:32
fairuz_Hi guys... I want to mount /dev/sda to reinstall grub but it asks me partition type? What should I put? In sda I have Windows and Linux, so should I choose ext4?11:33
jribfairuz_: are you sure you want to mount /dev/sda?  And not something like /dev/sda1?11:38
fairuz_jrib: That's what I'm thinking too11:39
jribRobr3rd: what does it mean to "lose my desktop environment"?  You can still choose them at login, right?11:39
fairuz_But if I want to re-isntall grub to sda, which sdaX should I mount?11:39
abailarrihi all. I dont know what is wrong in my ubuntu 12.04 (newly installed), but when I login in it hangs alwais11:40
jribfairuz_: the one that contains /boot11:40
fairuz_jrib: I'm on Live DVD right now11:40
fairuz_jrib: So the Ubuntu partition?11:40
Erealzclear11:40
jribfairuz_: if that's where /boot is11:40
Robr3rdjrib: I'm sorry, that was quite vague wasn't it... Yes, the login manager (lightdm?) still works perfectly, and my current account works just fine as well, however the *other* account on my system (the only one that ever gets used, actually) does not draw the desktop environment upon logging in. However, keyboard shortcuts DO work, though the file menus are in the windows -- not in any global menubar.11:41
blackshirtgoof night11:41
fairuz_jrib: So the grub will be installed to MBR of sda right? not on sdaX whichever has /boot?11:42
Robr3rdjrib: So we've got a desktop without a shell or DE, basically. Programs still launch via keyboard shortcuts, but no prettiness beyond that. (themes still work fine, also)11:42
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jrib!grub2 | fairuz_11:44
ubottufairuz_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)11:44
bonhoefferhow can i find what a icon on my dock bar points to?11:44
jribfairuz_: follow the instructions to restore grub on that first link ubottu gave11:44
fairuz_ok thanks jr11:45
jribRobr3rd: are there issues with environments other than unity?  Check ~/.xsession-errors for the account in qusetion11:45
bonhoefferbecause i'm updating a program11:46
Robr3rdjrib: No other environments work. Tested includes: Unity, Unity2D, GNOME, GNOME Classic, GNOME Classic (No Effects) ---- I'll post the X errors online and link you shortly.11:46
bonhoefferbut i don't know where the program is installed11:47
bonhoefferi found it -- it is ~/apps/foo/11:48
bonhoeffernow i just need to 'repoint' the dock item11:48
Robr3rdjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1331724/ I also tried "unity --replace"/"unity" and "compiz --replace"/"compiz" in a virtual terminal but of course it failed because it had nowhere to display. Additionally, I saw that "unity-panel-services" had an issue so I tried to install it from a virtual terminal, but the package could not be found.11:49
Robr3rdjrib: At this point I seek advice before my adventures lead to accidentally furthering the desctruction11:50
aetcoreDoes anyone use AWS? and if so is there an associated IRC Channel for general Q&A?11:50
jrib"We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry" thanks devs.11:50
bazhang!alis | aetcore have a search11:51
ubottuaetcore have a search: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*11:51
aetcorety11:51
jribRobr3rd: if there's nothing obvious in ~/.xsession-errors, just start renaming dot direcotries and see which one makes a difference (start with things like .compiz, .config, .gnome*, .gconf*)11:51
jribdirectories*11:51
Robr3rdjrib: *nods* Fair enough. Will return when results are found.11:52
jribRobr3rd: I have to leave, sorry11:52
Robr3rdjrib: Ah, alright. Well, thank you! Hopefully this will get me on the right track. :)11:52
jribRobr3rd: only other thing that you might need to be do (and should do first if it hasn't been done) is an fsck, but this should have happened automatically when you booted11:54
Robr3rdjrib: I'll try a manual one anyway just to be safe. Thanks11:55
jribRobr3rd: alright, good luck.  *out the door now*11:56
bonhoefferok -- could i at least know the name of the icons on the left to websearch (are they hoticons or something)11:58
bonhoefferi just need to repoint it11:58
bovanslucassuspiria12:01
fairuz_Hey guys.. hmm ifconfig only gives lo and wlan0, does it mean my ethernet is unsupported? Or is there any ways I can enable it?12:08
k1lfairuz: can you show a "lspci" in a pastebin?12:09
k1l!paste | fairuz12:09
ubottufairuz: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:09
NikPI use Cinnamon on Ubuntu 12.10. It work's pretty good! ;-)12:11
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crimsonmanedon't lie sara12:15
fairuz_k1l: Hmm how can I do that if both ethernet and wireless are not working. :(12:15
fairuz_I don't have eth0, and wireless keeps asking password12:15
fairuz_So I need to fix one of them first. :)12:15
crimsonmaneethernet not working is quite unusual. at a terminal type "ifconfig eth0 up"12:16
irocksuhi12:19
crimsonmanehi12:19
fairuz_crimsonmane: ok will do12:19
irocksuis there some pdf viewer that shows me the ending of the last "page" when i press page down?12:19
irocksuor is it scroll down in english?12:19
crimsonmaneOkular?12:20
irocksumy problem is as follows: i read a book and when i am at the ending of a page i press the key "page down" but there are still several sentences of the old page.12:20
crimsonmaneirocksu: in your PDF viewer click View at the top menu bar, then select Continuous12:21
irocksucrimsonmane: I have, but you still get 1-5 lines of the "last screen page"12:22
usr13irocksu: acroread?12:22
irocksuusr13: I use acroread12:22
usr13O12:22
fairuz_crimsonmane: no such device :(12:22
irocksui want an indication of where the last screen ended (a visual line perhaps)12:23
usr13irocksu: Not sure what the problem is.  Seems to work ok for me.12:23
irocksuusr13: I reread some of the sentances of the old screen.12:24
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: does 'ls -d /sys/class/net/eth*' list anything?12:24
crimsonmaneirocksu: it'll take a bit of practice, but you should really just look at the last lines of the page, hit the button, see where it moved to. it moves a consistent number of lines every time, so then just start at that appropriate line.12:25
irocksucrimsonmane: i will try that. thanks12:26
usr13irocksu: Doesn't do that to me.  Maybe there is an anomaly in the document you are reading.12:26
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: no such directory12:27
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BluesKajhowdy all12:28
saviohey12:28
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: chances are that linux was unable to detect your network card. run 'lspci | grep -i network' to find out which one is in your computer.12:29
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: google should tell you from either the text or the pci ids which driver linux uses, check that it's loaded with 'lsmod | grep <modulename>'12:30
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: Is it indicating missing correct driver?12:30
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: I don't think so. I guess it's just not being loaded automatically.12:31
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: well, what card do you have?12:31
ElixirVitaeHi!12:33
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ElixirVitaeWhy is opera not included in repos?12:33
[deXter]ElixirVitae, because it's not open source12:34
MasterOfDisasterElixirVitae: use opera's own repo: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/84112:34
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: Atheros12:34
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: sure that's not your wifi?12:35
ElixirVitaebut it says "no longer"12:35
ElixirVitaedoes that not mean once upon a time it was included...12:35
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crimsonmanelive not in the past.12:36
ElixirVitae( ´_ゝ`)12:36
crimsonmanemake not funny faces12:36
ElixirVitaeヽ( 。 ヮ゚)ノ12:36
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MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: which ubuntu release are you using?12:38
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: 12.1012:38
crimsonmanepst .... over here... got a secret for you ... yer not supposed to use new releases because they're buggy... stick to LTS12:39
fairuz_:)12:40
fairuz_I thought new releases has all the drivers from previous releases?12:41
crimsonmaneno12:41
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: try installing this: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/canonical_kernel_team/quantal/main/base/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-18-generic12:41
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: ethernet controller: atheros AR816112:41
icerootfairuz_: not always12:41
fairuz_lspci | grep -i eth gives that12:41
theadminOk, I have a bug in Quickly (the ubuntu-flash-game template doesn't work), and it's fixed in Quantal. However I don't want to upgrade to Quantal. Can I expect this bugfix to come to Precise?12:41
crimsonmaneubuntu and other distros could be more clear that using a fresh release is the same as volunteering to beta test and bug report12:42
iceroottheadmin: depending on the bug and patch12:42
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: you'd need to download it on another computer, copy it there and install it with 'sudo dpkg -i foo.deb'12:42
iceroottheadmin: if it will pull a new version with new features i dont think so12:42
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: this is what the mighty google coughed up: http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-controller12:43
theadminiceroot: Well... Hm. I see the status for Precise is "fix released", but what exactly does that mean?12:43
iceroottheadmin: that the fix is already in the package from 12.0412:43
theadminAs in... It's still broken on my machine. lol.12:43
iceroottheadmin: if not please leave a comment on the bug that it is not fixed for you in 12.0412:43
theadminiceroot: Will do12:44
iceroottheadmin: also have a look if the fix is in the proposed repo (which is not enabled by default)12:44
iceroottheadmin: packages.ubuntu.com12:44
theadminiceroot: Never mind, they say it's in -proposed, guess I'll have to wait a few days before it comes down to the main one12:44
iceroottheadmin: yes12:44
RyanLWilliamsHi  guys, i'm having problems with the updates?12:44
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: So basically I have to compile it on another PC first?12:44
iceroottheadmin: proposed is the "testing" repo12:45
ElixirVitaeWhen I add third party repos, they are not listed in software center but listed within synaptic, no?12:45
fairuz_That solution assume we have internet on the PC12:45
ElixirVitaeI though software center was also kinda frontend for apt...12:45
crimsonmaneElixirVitae: they are listed in software center12:45
theadminiceroot: Makes sense then, seriously though, the software-properties tool calls repos some weird names... Is it "Unsupported updates" or "Pre-released updates"? :/12:45
crimsonmanefairuz_: download the thing, copy it to the bad computer, and do the steps over there.12:45
ElixirVitaeHmm, I did something wrong when I added repo to the synaptic then12:46
crimsonmaneElixirVitae: or maybe you need to apt-get update12:46
iceroottheadmin: the second12:46
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: whould be compiled alright12:46
RyanLWilliamsHi can I update the Kernel12:46
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: *should12:47
MasterOfDisasterRyanLWilliams: apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade12:47
RyanLWilliamsFor Ubuntu 12.04 LTS12:47
crimsonmaneupgrade your kernel: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40185&sid=fb1f2339e37e92e120cf0203bbb515ac12:47
theadminiceroot: k, thanks, I'd rather just wait though :)12:47
ElixirVitaeI thought synaptic does that automagically, when I select apply12:47
* ElixirVitae knows better now.12:47
crimsonmaneotherwise upgrade your kernel with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:47
RyanLWilliamsMasterOfDisaster: Both of the commands12:48
crimsonmaneElixirVitae: oh. it might. idunno12:48
bekksRyanLWilliams: Dont use a mainline kernel unless you exactly know why you need to do so.12:48
RyanLWilliamsbekks: How's you mean12:48
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crimsonmaneapt-get upgrade does not include kernels. apt-get dist-upgrade does. and RyanLWilliams he means dont follow my link12:48
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: I compiled that thing. And I got 2 ko's12:49
fairuz_compat.ko and alx.ko12:49
fairuz_I need both?12:49
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: yes12:49
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: ok12:49
fairuz_I will try to send to the bad PC and load it from there12:49
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: eh... why compile? there is a ubuntu package man...12:49
fairuz_that PC don't have internet12:49
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: yeah, so? you have to copy the .ko files too, don't you?12:50
fairuz_I can copy using USB drive12:50
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: and the one you're chatting from has internet...12:50
fairuz_Well MasterOfDisaster I already compiled it so.. it's ok12:50
fairuz_:)12:51
fairuz_How to download only the deb ? I only know apt-get install that will install it to the host12:51
theadminfairuz_: apt-get -d install ...12:51
paopaohello, can anybody know how to use QQ in pidgin?12:51
fairuz_ok thanks!12:51
theadminfairuz_: That will download the necessary packages but not install them12:51
fairuz_cOOL, GOOD TO KNOW12:52
theadminfairuz_: Check /var/cache/apt/archives for them12:52
RyanLWilliamsThat's all it's giving me is that it's updating all of the Cache12:52
fairuz_ops sorry12:52
fairuz_theadmin: noted. Thanks12:52
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/canonical_kernel_team/quantal/main/base/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-18-generic12:52
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: there's a link where you can d/l the .deb12:52
paopaosorry, maybe i ask in a wrong channel12:52
theadminfairuz_: There's also always http://packages.ubuntu.com where you can grab them12:52
RyanLWilliamsCan't I download the latest stable version of Linux/Deb/Ubuntu Kernel12:53
sanchezhi12:53
RyanLWilliamsOff http://www.kernel.org12:53
MasterOfDisasterpaopao: there's a plugin package: apt-cache search purple12:53
theadminRyanLWilliams: Sure, but why would you? What's wrong with the stock kernel?12:53
sanchezwho test the anonymos os12:53
desuIs there anyway to disable the join/leave server messages?12:53
milan123ciao12:54
milan123!lista12:54
ubottumilan123: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:54
MasterOfDisasterdesu: it's a client setting12:54
milan123!list12:54
ubottumilan123: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:54
desuhmmm anyone that uses irssi mind pointing me in the right direction to disabling server messages?12:54
RyanLWilliamsIt's playing up on me and not installing the files and downloadable .deb files which I want12:54
theadmindesu: /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS12:55
RyanLWilliamsthe admin: It's playing up on me and not installing the files and downloadable .deb files which I want12:55
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: theadmin Ok I will try installing the deb and see what happends12:55
desutheadmin Thank you very much.12:55
fairuz_*happens12:55
theadminRyanLWilliams: sudo dpkg -i something.deb, but if the dependencies aren't satisfied it won't work12:55
RyanLWilliamsthe admin: To install on my computer12:55
theadmin!tab | RyanLWilliams12:55
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RyanLWilliamsHow to install a tar.gz on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, that's the Latest Stable Version off the kernel12:57
desuextract it and read instructions?12:58
savio!kernel12:58
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)12:58
yeatsRyanLWilliams: coming in in the middle here, but what are you trying to install?12:58
metinfolks, is there any specific group that I can add my user to, in order to be able to run the X server?12:59
RyanLWilliamsyeats: Will it's called support12:59
desuummmm doesn't everyone get to use X server?12:59
metindesu, I want to be able to start my secondary x server from within the user13:00
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: deb from the link you gave me gives dependancies not satisfied.. I realize that it's for 3.5.0-18 while the 12.10 kernel is 3.5.0-17.13:00
RyanLWilliamsyeats: and Kernel13:00
desuah I see, can't help there.13:00
savio!kernel | RyanLWilliams13:01
ubottuRyanLWilliams: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)13:01
yeatsRyanLWilliams: the program is called "support"?  (for the kernel, please see ubottu's messages)13:01
desuI feel so awesome that I'm running kernel 3.5desu~13:01
RyanLWilliamsyeats: Right ok13:01
MasterOfDisasterfairuz_: ok - you should compile the modules on the target system though, otherwise you'd have to load them with modprobe -f13:01
MasterOfDisastereh, insmod -f13:02
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: The one I already compiled is compiled on teh same 12.1013:02
fairuz_same kernel13:02
fairuz_So it should work right?13:02
fairuz_I will try with these ones then.13:02
MasterOfDisasterI guess so13:02
saviodesu, cool did you compile your kernel or using 12.1013:02
RyanLWilliamsKernel Update, Can I install it myself?13:07
blackshirthello13:07
blackshirtyes,sure13:07
RyanLWilliamsubottu:  Kernel Update, Can I install it myself?13:10
ubottuRyanLWilliams: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:10
yeatsRyanLWilliams: can you rephrase your question?  What's "Kernel Update"?13:10
quatarHi all. My problem: i installed ubuntu12.04 on a laptop with nvidia graphics. At the first access to the system, i got many "system errors" (no other specification given by the window)... I found out it was about jockey-gtk, the applications that checks for propertary drivers. I installed nvidia-current by apt because jockey won't load, and the system became inusable. Now I installed ubuntu once again, i'm back to the errors... What can I do to 1)13:11
quatar don't have these errors, 2) use nvidia-current ?13:11
RyanLWilliamsyeats: update the kernel for my system?13:11
IdleOneRyanLWilliams: The update manager will offer updates when they are available in the software repositories13:11
yeatsRyanLWilliams: APT should take care of that automatically13:11
RyanLWilliamsIdleOne: Right13:13
RyanLWilliamsyeats: yeah how do i do that?13:13
MasterOfDisasterquatar: open a terminal/shell, and run try 'sudo apt-get install -yf'. that should fix APT.13:14
yeatsRyanLWilliams: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'13:14
quatarMasterOfDisaster, why should i fix apt? I think apt is working...13:14
jribquatar: I'd suggest not running apt with -y13:14
bwayneHi. I'm running 12.04 in a VM. Why would the screen resolution only be correct when I enter Unity?  gdb isn't correct.  nor is xmonad.  It's only when I log into Unity that the resolution is corrected.13:15
MasterOfDisasterquatar: sorry, I'm not getting what the problem is then.13:15
yeatsquatar: try running 'jockey-gtk' from the command line to see what the errors actually are?  (not sure I have a good grasp on the problem)13:15
RyanLWilliamsif nothing happens and don't update can't i get the latest version of the kernel and install it myself13:16
jribquatar: first step is to checksum your cd13:16
yeatsRyanLWilliams: why would you want to do that?13:16
quatarjrib, checksum is? (sorry if i'm a n00b :) ).. i'm doing a SMART test right now13:16
quataryeats, i'll do it in a while13:16
jrib!verify | quatar13:16
ubottuquatar: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows13:16
RyanLWilliamsyeats: because my stock kernel is playing up13:17
smacktalkhow would I create a launch-able icon on my launcher for a program I now have to issue a command in terminal to start?13:17
yeatsRyanLWilliams: can you be more specific about what's going wrong?13:17
FaRT_kNockin_CaPhey when downloading using torrents sometimes my network system totally freezes/crashes...the only way i can fix this is by doing a reboot... is there any commands i can give it to slap it back in order???13:17
MasterOfDisasterjrib: add a little memtest to the mix while you're at it13:17
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bkfitz12.04 - broadcom wifi chip that I'm having problems with... somone last night suggested I install bcmwl-kernel-source which apparently runs using dkms... anyone know how to see if the card is using the new driver i installed?13:18
lucidoI tried to set up my laptop as a wifi ap following this guide: http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/13:18
yeatsbkfitz: lsmod13:18
lucidoit doesnt seem to be working13:18
FaRT_kNockin_CaPhey when downloading using torrents sometimes my network system totally freezes/crashes...the only way i can fix this is by doing a reboot... is there any commands i can give it to slap it back in order???13:18
bkfitzyeats: ok... rebooting now I'll try13:19
RyanLWilliamsyeats: the current stock kernel i have doesn't want to install tarball files13:19
lucidois there a another way to make a wifi AP?13:19
RyanLWilliamsyeats: and deb files too13:19
yeatsRyanLWilliams: can you please provide more details about what you mean?  those don't sound like kernel-level issues to me on the face of it13:20
foodAh my Laptop is freeze yet ... Dunno if the issue fixed13:21
foodIs it safe to install kernel 3.6 Quantal on Ubuntu 12.04.1 (I will install it on an important computer) ?13:21
bkfitzyeats: ok i ran lsmod but don't know what to look for... don't see anything that says broadcom..13:22
bkfitzyeats: iwconfig shows no wlan013:22
yeatsbkfitz: it's probably called 'bcm' something or other13:22
RyanLWilliamsyeats: how to install a tarball13:23
RyanLWilliamsyeats: stable:3.6.52012-10-31[Full Source][Patch][View Patch][View Inc.][Gitweb][Changelog13:23
yeatsbkfitz: why don't you pastebin the output?13:23
RyanLWilliamsyeats: Which one shall I click on to download it13:23
yeats!compile | RyanLWilliams13:23
ubottuRyanLWilliams: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall13:23
fairuz_MasterOfDisaster: theadmin I have LAN working now. :)13:23
bkfitzyeats: just lsmod | grep b and the only things that come up are bnep bluetooth and lib8921113:23
fairuz_Time to fix the wireless13:23
RyanLWilliamsyeats: Ok13:24
bkfitzyeats: because it's a different laptpop... i'm at the in-laws installing their old acer laptop with 12.04... tethered to my phone with 3g... no lan port access13:24
RyanLWilliamsubottu: Okay thanks :)13:24
ubottuRyanLWilliams: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:24
yeatsRyanLWilliams: please not that I am not recommending that you install a new kernel since it doesn't sound like that's the issue13:24
yeatss/not/note/13:24
bkfitzyeats: having to download debs here and transfer to other laptop using thumdrive13:25
yeatsbkfitz: try 'dpkg -l | grep bcm'13:25
RyanLWilliamsyeats: No, it's fine13:25
RyanLWilliamsyeats: I want to install a updated ver. of the kernel anyways13:25
IdleOneRyanLWilliams: Why?13:26
bkfitzyeats: ok this does show bcmwl-kernel-source blah blah blah13:26
bkfitzyeats: so it's apparently there, but the wireless is not turned on???13:26
yeatsbkfitz: okay, so it's installed, but not being loaded probably13:26
bkfitzyeats: ok :) now what (I really appreciate the help)13:26
quataryeats, http://paste.ubuntu.com/133194913:27
yeatsbkfitz: not sure - my guess is that another module needs to be blacklisted13:27
bkfitzyeats: ugh13:27
marcusanyone know how to get AMD Radeon HD 6400/7400 dual graphics Drivers to work?? (lubuntu ))13:27
bkfitzyeats; like this http://misha.beshkin.lv/broadcom-wifi-bcm4318-on-ubuntu-11-10/13:28
yeatsquatar: see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207433613:28
bonhoefferany way to change what a dock shortcut points to13:28
railsraiderwhy does monit status shows "  status    not monitored", the process is there running13:28
quataryeats, ahah it's wonderful!! I hope it will be the same for me13:29
railsraiderif i do service monit restart i see the service monitored13:29
railsraiderbut then it stops monitoring13:29
quatarthx expecially for having googled for me :P yeats13:29
hikenboothello how do i remoun the root file system in recovery mode to read write? mount -a doesnt appear to do anything13:29
yeatsbkfitz: can you pastebin the output of 'lspci'?13:31
yeatsbkfitz: and 'lsmod'?13:31
newgen++13:31
devishwe have start up applications in ubuntu , in exatly what file it mofifies/uses13:31
devish*modifies13:31
railsraidernever mind found the issue13:31
jribdevish: no single file.  It creates .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart/13:31
devishi tried rc.local for my case but useless for my script but no use but in start up app it works13:32
jribdevish: what's your question?13:33
bonhoefferso what is the thing on the left of the screen called?13:33
hikenbootnever mind answered my own question mount --options remount,rw /13:33
bonhoefferis that the cairo-dock?13:33
bonhoefferand the icons are launchers?13:34
yeatsbonhoeffer: unity launcher13:34
bonhoefferthanks13:34
bkfitzyeats: I'll have to copy paste to txt, copy txt to thumb, transfer here, then upload... will do13:34
devishjrib: wanted to start one of my app after 30 sec of runlevel start so kept the commandd in rc.local and restarted  my pc but no use although the same thing works in start up application13:34
bonhoefferand do you know how i can change the target of a unity launcher?13:34
yeatsbkfitz: ah - ok13:34
jribdevish: what app?13:34
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devishjrib: conky13:35
yeatsbkfitz: so no way to plug in via ethernet? no need to explain if not, just wondering...13:35
jribdevish: you should use Startup Applications, why don't you want to use it?13:35
bonhoefferis there a launcher editor -- or a cli way to do it13:35
devishi am using start up application only now, but i am wondering why rc.local is not working13:36
yeatsbonhoeffer: to remove, just right click on the icon and select "unlock from launcher"13:36
devishjrib: ^^13:36
bonhoefferyeats, then i can edit it?13:36
jribdevish: rc.local would start things as root.  You don't want that.  Also, rc.local will execute things before X is up and you are even logged in; you don't want that13:36
yeatsbonhoeffer: edit how?13:36
bkfitzyeats: nope... tethered to phone at in-laws.... they are planning on getting internet this week... new house13:36
bonhoefferi want to give it a new target13:37
devishjrib: rc.d?13:37
yeatsbkfitz: gotcha13:37
jribdevish: what about it?13:37
bkfitzyeats: will pastebin your suggestion in a few... trying the firmware-b43 package13:37
devishjrib: does this also has root access and same story?13:37
bonhoeffer~/apps/RubyMine-4.5.2/bin/rubymine.sh to ~/apps/RubyMine-4.5.4/bin/rubymine.sh13:37
bonhoeffershould be simple . . .13:38
jribdevish: yes, though it works a little differently13:38
bonhoefferis there a shortcut key to show the desktop?13:38
burdickjpI have a wubi install of 12.10 on a Dell Latitude ST.  On booting I get a console flood of errors "Bluetooth:  Error in firmware loading err = -32, len = 320, size = 4096 Bluetooth: loading patch file failed".  inputs are unresponsive.  I do not use bluetooth on this hardware, and would rather disable it.13:39
yeatsbonhoeffer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles might help13:39
yeatsbonhoeffer: hold down the super key to see the keyboard shortcuts13:40
bkfitzyeats: ugh... installing this deb says "is not a debian format archive" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/firmware-b43-installer/1:015-913:40
yeatsbkfitz: maybe it got corrupted somewhere along the way?13:41
bkfitzyeats: yeah... trying again :)13:41
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bkfitzyeats: 3.4kb seems awefully small13:43
savio!sudo13:44
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo13:44
yeatsbkfitz: that was the size it was when I just downloaded it if that helps13:45
bkfitzyeats: ok thx13:45
yeatsbkfitz: the md5sum on my download is 69db16b6be9a28028c04b248edfc206c if that helps13:46
bkfitzyeats: excellent i got the same, dkpg'd the deb and it said go download this :) - http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3_mipsel.tar.bz213:47
yeatsheh13:47
burdickjpIt seems I need to boot back into windows and pass some options to the kernel at boot, but BCD only lists Ubuntu.  Any suggestions for a quick way to boot back into windows without having to configure and install another bootloader, then reinstall BCD?13:47
bkfitzyeats: this is becoming a sneakernet fiasco :)13:47
afidegnumpls i have a little question, I have 2 folders, I want to copy contents from the first folder to the new one, overwrite existing contents in fact merge. I tried with the cp command but it didn't work i.e        cp    modules     /my/new/path/modules13:47
afidegnumwhat is the correct command to use ?13:47
MrBaccanoGood afternoon, I have a family member with an old laptop that had Windows XP on it. But since it was extremely slowly I installed Ubuntu 11.04 on it, which was fine until this week, because the support ended.13:48
vilinyhello! trying to do some linux server course material here and my current objective is to log kernel messages to a specific file13:48
vilinywe got as far as finding /etc/rsyslog.conf but we are a bit lost right now13:48
MrBaccanoI hope I could get some suggestions on what to install next, because I fear that upgrading to 11.10 or newer without changing anything will be too slow.13:48
yeatsbkfitz: well, I have a broadcom wireless card on one of my machines, and usually all it takes is installing the bcmwl-kernel-source package and rebooting13:48
vilinywhats the best method to specify kernel messages to a custom file?13:48
bkfitzyeats: ok... i guess i'll go down that route instead of installed that tar from source13:49
bkfitzyeats: back with pastebins in a min13:49
jago_hello people13:49
quataryeats, after updating/upgrading the system, jockey-gtk is working and (i hope) properly installing the nvidia drivers. Still I get one error on startup but I don't know what it is because the windows hat pops up doesn't show any info13:49
yeatsbkfitz: you might also attempt a view of the logs (dmesg, kern.log, syslog) to see if there's an error when loading the module13:50
jago_have a slight problem.. and yes I've been through the forums for ongoing a week.13:50
burdickjpMrBaccano: try 12.10 and see if you/they like it.  You won't know unless you try.13:50
vilinyyeats: speaking of log files, do you know how to solve my problem? :)13:50
yeatsquatar: you might take a look at your logs to see if there's anything that jumps out at you13:50
jago_my network connect button greyed out ubuntu 12.04 when i try to reconnect to the wireless network13:50
mattyh88hey, i've been trying to install xubuntu from my usb stick with the alternate iso. (12.04) When I check my installation media it tells me the checksum isn't correct but when I check it, the md5 matches13:51
burdickjpMrBaccano: if it's too slow, then try one of the alternative desktops, such as cinnamon, or XFCE13:51
quataryeats, I used to believe that there are many logs across my system... which one?13:51
burdickjpMrBaccano: actually, I take that back, try 12.04, as it's an LTS release13:51
yeatsviliny: kernel messages by default go to kern.log on ubuntu - you're trying to change that?13:51
yeatsquatar: I would start with /var/log/syslog13:51
quatarthx13:51
vilinyyeats: the assignment, altough ambigiously worded, wants me to place kernel messages in a custom file13:52
jago_it asks for a password and the connect is greyed out when i input the password.13:52
MrBaccanoI guess just trying it would be quite reasonable, which would also have the benefit that I won't have to reinstall, but can just upgrade13:52
NikPI would like to change my mouse coursor theme to black, and I've set up DMZ-Black, but onle the pointer is black, not the hand or the loading animation. In fedora it's all black. How can I change all coursors to black? (Sorry, I'm German)13:53
quataryeats, unfortunately, now that i installed (via jockey) the nvidia-current and rebooted, my desktop won't load.......13:54
yeatsviliny: have you investigated klogd?13:54
yeatsquatar: do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a terminal13:54
dr_willisNikP: logged  out then back in yet?13:54
quataryeats, yes and what should I do to fix? apt-get remove nvidia-current??13:55
NikPdr_willis: Yes. But only the pointer is black, not the others.13:55
MrBaccanoThanks burdickjp, I have been caught up in looking at ligt-weight alternatives that just trying to see if Ubuntu worked did not cross my mind13:55
jago_is there a file for the network configuration where I can manually edit it and keep the changes13:55
yeatsquatar: do 'lsmod | grep nouveau'13:55
bkfitzyeats: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1332029/13:55
quataryeats, empty13:56
bkfitzyeats: I installed the bcmwl-kernel-source, rebooted and then ran the lsmod and lspci13:56
jago_cause every time I reboot I have to input the password and set the type from wep to wpa everytime i reboot the computer.13:56
jago_is there a fix to this ?13:57
jago_hello13:57
jago_any help ?13:57
bkfitzcat dmesg | grep bc yielded nothing13:58
vilinyyeats: we solved it :)13:58
yeatsbkfitz: this is a couple of years old, but probably still valid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8855603&postcount=313:58
dr_willischecked askubuntu.com yet jago_ ?13:58
yeatsviliny: cool13:58
mattyh88hey, i've been trying to install xubuntu from my usb stick with the alternate iso. (12.04) When I check my installation media it tells me the checksum isn't correct but when I check it, the md5 matches13:58
NikPdr_willis: Do you have an answer for my problem?13:58
bkfitzyeats: nor did kern.log | grep bc13:58
jago_yes ..again I just need to get to the configuration file so that I can manually edit it13:58
dr_willisNikP: nope.13:58
vilinyyeats: /etc/rsyslog.d/50 something default config had places to specify default locations for log files13:58
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jago_whats the file ?13:59
yeatsviliny: ah - gotcha - I was looking for something like that13:59
burdickjpso how do I pass kernel options on a wubi install?13:59
NikPdr_willis: OK, I'll ask in an other channel.13:59
yeatsquatar: maybe look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for EE or WW messages that might provide more information?13:59
Stealthy_MobileHey there. Just a quick question. I'm trying to root my android phone using superoneclick. The guide I'm using tells me I need to have both lib32ncurses5  lib32stdc++6 on my box but I can't find those packages on synaptic. Can I still proceed without those packages? I'm running ubuntu 12.04. Should I post the url of the guide I'm following?13:59
baltaz4ris it just me or does Windows, XP in my case have more disk activity when the system is idle than Linux do?14:00
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yeatsbaltaz4r: not just you, but you'll want to ask about that in ##windows14:01
baltaz4rok14:01
quataryeats, no errors in xorg. But in syslog many WARNINGS about too fast respawning of compiz.desktop14:01
burdickjpbaltaz4r:I'm going to say it depends, as I'm running KDE with nepomuk I have a lot of background activity14:02
yeatsquatar: ah - well there you go (don't know what to suggest about that, though)14:02
Stealthy_MobileHey there. Just a quick question. I'm trying to root my android phone using superoneclick. The guide I'm using tells me I need to have both lib32ncurses5  lib32stdc++6 on my box but I can't find those packages on synaptic. Can I still proceed without those packages? I'm running ubuntu 12.04. Should I post the url of the guide I'm following?14:02
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dr_willis!find lib32ncurses14:03
ubottuPackage/file lib32ncurses does not exist in quantal14:03
quataryeats, to go back to the previous situation, apt-remove nvidia-current could help?14:03
dr_willis!find lib32stdc14:04
ubottuFile lib32stdc found in gcc-4.4-source, gcc-4.5-source, gcc-4.6-source, gcc-4.7-source14:04
yeatsquatar: yes14:05
BigToledoHey there. Just a quick question. I'm trying to root my android phone using superoneclick. The guide I'm using tells me I need to have both lib32ncurses5  lib32stdc++6 on my box but I can't find those packages on synaptic. Can I still proceed without those packages? I'm running ubuntu 12.04. Should I post the url of the guide I'm following?14:05
* yeats goes afk for a while14:05
dr_willisBigToledo:  just try it and see..14:06
dr_willisbbl14:06
BigToledothanks dr_willis14:06
savio!service14:11
whoever_hi all is it supose to be 7 or 8 AM no14:14
whoever_*now14:14
hanninghi, id like to use xmodmap to set a hotkey thats only working if a specific process is not running14:15
hanningcould anyone direct me to a tutorial for that?14:15
L3topwould depend on your time zone14:15
bwaynelooks like my gdm issue is pretty common.  Easily fixed by putting xrandr into a script and calling it from lightdm.conf.14:16
clemihi guys i got a problem14:17
govinda_Why should I replace my solid Windows 95 install fon Ubuntu?14:17
govinda_for*14:17
clemieverytime i start my  ubuntu it gets a blackscreen (2 min after im logged in  got ubuntu 12)14:18
* L3top lols at solid win 95 install14:18
L3topclemi: that is a problem.. 12.04 or 12.10?14:18
clemi12.04 i believe14:18
govinda_what is lols14:18
L3tophanning:  I would write a daemon.14:19
clemigovinda gtfo you troll >.>14:19
piglitwin95? what is wrong with wine? :-)14:19
gianfranco!list14:19
ubottugianfranco: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:19
clemiguys seriously he or she must be a troll14:19
L3toppiglit: It makes me sleep with ugly people... for one.14:20
gianfranco!list14:20
L3topsorry I am off topic.14:20
clemil3top do you know what to do?14:20
bekks!list > gianfranco14:20
ubottugianfranco, please see my private message14:20
govinda_what is troll?14:20
govinda_Does ubuntu support myy modem?14:20
L3topWell clemi there is nothing you do prior to it crashing, correct? It just crashes? Are you using the native nouveau driver or a proprietary nVidia one?14:21
clemil3top14:21
Linkandzeldahey guys, Ive installed dropbox but its refusing to sync any changes to my folders, it said something about doing a command to max_user_watches and i did that, but its not working. any ideas?14:21
clemii got a 6950 ati ;)14:21
* L3top doesn't know where he got nvidia from14:22
L3topsame question re ATI14:22
L3topradeon or fglrx?14:22
cleminope14:22
clemihavent installed ani driver14:22
clemi*ANY14:22
trowaltsLinkandzelda, are you sitting behind a proxy?14:23
L3topclemi: I would. Unity is likely to function a whole lot better on the proprietary driver. sudo apt-get install fglrx.14:23
Linkandzeldatrowalts: nope, regular home connection14:23
clemil3top14:23
clemii tried to but ubuntu crashes after 2 minutes =/14:23
L3topLog in text only14:23
savio!mp314:23
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:23
clemialt ctrl f2 right?14:24
L3top!text | clemi14:24
ubottuclemi: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode14:24
trowaltsLinkandzelda, then I have no idea, havent used dropbox in a long time and the last time I did I had an annoying proxy that gave issues.14:24
Linkandzeldai see14:24
trowaltsLinkandzelda, the only thing I could suggest (and this is assuming dropbox is working properly) is have a look at read permissions on the folders? also check if you can create a folder through the web interface and see if it will sync that14:25
Linkandzeldatrowalts: it syncs things down but not up14:26
simplewdoes xchat has spelling support?14:26
clemialright guys14:26
clemiim in grub menu14:27
trowaltssimplew, it does, check 'Edit'-> 'Preferences'14:27
Linkandzeldatrowalts: and now it works... lol14:27
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trowaltssimplew,  should list the dictionaries you have installed atm14:27
simplewtrowalts: sorry, cant do that, im in kde14:28
trowaltsLinkandzelda, haha, might have had some extra over head before it started uploading, muc like when you copy something on your pc14:28
clemiguys im in grub menu now what do i have to do next?14:29
trowaltssimplew, I use gnome or cinnamon , cant help with kde14:29
simplewtrowalts: did you ever tried kde?14:30
dreamer12345i am unable to get 3d environment in my laptop...i have 1gb nvdia graphic card14:31
trowaltssimplew, once very long ago. I did not approve.14:31
foofoobarHi, I did a fresh install of ubuntu12 via the windows isntaller14:31
wols_!optimus14:31
foofoobarNow I have problem with my ubuntu graphic driver so I can only go to terminal14:31
foofoobarbut I have to login now.14:32
wols_dreamer12345: do you have a hybrid solution with optimus?14:32
foofoobarWhat are the default login credentials?14:32
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wols_foofoobar: there is none14:32
L3topclemi: it is all in that link14:32
Guest28699how do i put a boot splash on ubuntu 10.414:32
dreamer12345@wols no14:32
foofoobarwols_: ah, I remember14:32
foofoobarI had to set some on installation14:32
trowaltsdreamer12345, if its a new laptop/gpu our going to have to download drivers directly from nvidia and install, otherwise get nvidia-current14:32
wols_dreamer12345: hm?14:32
L3topGuest28699: plymouth14:32
wols_dreamer12345: lspci -nn|grep -i VGA14:33
foofoobarIll try thanks14:33
phillijwdoes anyone turn off DHCP on their wireless router so they can simply use it as an AP? How do I get it to stop "filtering" out traffic from the rest of the network?14:33
L3top!text | clemi14:33
ubottuclemi: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode14:33
wols_phillijw: depends on the router. not a question for #ubuntu14:33
dreamer12345gt 420m graphic card i have14:33
L3top!pm > clemi14:33
ubottuclemi, please see my private message14:33
wols_dreamer12345: please give the output I asked for.14:34
* L3top loves to pm the don't pm message... just weird that way.14:34
dreamer12345@wols_ .kk14:34
dreamer12345@wols_ 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev 18) 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:0df1] (rev a1)14:35
clemil3top i did  =( its still black14:35
wols_dreamer12345: and yes, you have nvidia optimus14:35
dreamer12345what i schould do14:35
dreamer12345@wols14:35
L3topclemi: I do not understand your reply. You did what?14:36
ThinkT510dreamer12345: including @ with the nick doesn't highlight that person in some irc clients14:36
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clemiletop i went in the goddamn grub menu wrote in text and i still doesnt boot up in text14:36
quatarHi all again. Assumed that I have critical issues with nvidia-current (compiz crashes on startup and keep respawning forever, making the entire desktop unable to load), what do you suggest me? nvidia-current-updates? nvidia-173? nvidia-173-updates? something else?14:37
bekksclemi: Did you run update-grub after editing that file?14:37
dreamer12345mee too same problem......nvdia gt 42014:38
L3topbekks: he just wants to boot into text mode once to install fglrx, as he is freezing on the radeon driver.14:38
wols_dreamer12345: you check in Xorg.0.log what is actually used. and you decide how complicated you want the solution to be14:38
wols_L3top: what videocard?14:38
clemi695014:38
L3topradeon HD6xxx14:39
xan_hello , hope someone can help me here14:39
xan_i am running ubuntu 12.10 using wubi but now i try to load ubuntu it says14:39
xan_ubuntu failed to remove key from hardware-514:39
xan_any ideas?14:40
Xelihey, im trying to set up an linux box to basically show certain information on some tv in the office. Does anyone know of a program to make like a slideshow of different windows/workspaces?14:40
ThinkT510xan_: any reason you need to use wubi?14:40
Xelimm after asking this very question I wonder if I could just script the changing of workspaces..14:40
xan_i dont want to totally kill off my windows yet as i am atill learning linux14:40
xan_and im just starting to use Wine14:40
ThinkT510xan_: better to use a vm then14:41
L3topxan_: wubi is a testing platform. You should not seek stability there. You should do a "side by side" dual boot install.14:41
L3topor vm14:41
dreamer12345@wols_    nvdia geforce gt420m....sry i am late ..i am first time here......my frnd saying it doesnt support optimus14:41
wols_xan_: you should set up a separate partition then or use a VM like ThinkT510 said if you have enough RAM14:41
xan_witch would be better dual or vm?14:41
xan_i have 8gb ram14:41
wols_dreamer12345: what laptop?14:41
clemiseriously guys i deleted windows yesterday because i wanted to make ubuntu my mainsystem and now it doesnt work >.>14:42
L3topDual would have the best performance xan_... and use more of your native hardware.14:42
wols_xan_: more than enough. you can use a 2-3GB VM under Virtualbox for example14:42
ThinkT510xan_: depends on what you do, i'd go for dual boot but a vm is a great way to practice safely14:42
L3topclemi what happens if you DO hit ctrl alt f2?14:42
dreamer12345dell xps l501x14:42
wols_clemi: less whining, more constructive action and replies to people who try to help you. have you managed by now to enter text moed?14:42
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L3top+1 ThinkT51014:42
clemii get in a text mode14:42
dreamer12345@wols_14:43
clemibut dont know if this is the right one?14:43
xan_once i learn how to setup Wine and get all my games working i move over fully to linux14:43
unrarhi14:43
L3topclemi: That is fine. login and sudo apt-get install fglrx14:43
bekksxan_: Wine is no garantuee to get your games running.14:43
clemithank you14:43
L3topclemi: then reboot14:43
xan_smost of my games are old14:43
wols_dreamer12345: your friend is very wrong.14:43
xan_like rome total war14:43
xan_warcraft14:44
xan_lol14:44
xan_rome total war is my newest game i have got14:44
dreamer12345he has the same laptop14:44
dr_willis!info dosbox14:44
ubottudosbox (source: dosbox): x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.74-3 (quantal), package size 822 kB, installed size 2505 kB14:44
dreamer12345can u give any link plzz..@wolz14:44
dr_willisfor the old old games14:44
ThinkT510!appdb | xan_14:45
ubottuxan_: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help14:45
xan_ty for the link14:45
L3topdreamer12345: you will want to get bumblebee-nvidia14:45
dreamer12345@wolz.....    its nt supported ...seen in nvdia site14:45
wols_dreamer12345: what isn't?14:45
dreamer12345can i do nything14:45
wols_yes, you can start with your Xorg log as I told you already14:46
ThinkT510dreamer12345: not officially supported, but there is bumblebee14:46
dr_willis!bumblebee14:46
dreamer12345get 3d environment in nvdia geforce gt420m14:46
dreamer12345@wolz ..thanks14:47
L3topdreamer12345: nvidia does not support optimus in linux, HOWEVER there are third party aps that do... bumblebee being the best for your chipset, bumblebee-nvidia allowing you to use the proprietary driver.14:47
L3top!info bumblebee | dreamer1234514:47
ubottudreamer12345: Package bumblebee does not exist in quantal14:47
L3topgrrr.14:47
wols_dreamer12345: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics  and you certainly have optimus. some higher end cpus don't have it with your laptop but yours clearly does as the lspci output shows14:47
dr_willis@ is not needed on irc and can confuse things. ;-)14:47
przemekMrBaccanoL try Xubuntu 12.10 great stuff14:49
dr_willisdident nvidia make sone mention of officially supporting optimus on linux in some anouncement a few months back?14:49
Guest28699reboot14:49
wols_dreamer12345: no. they made an announcement to NOT support it at all14:50
L3topNot to my knowledge dr_willis14:50
L3topI will look though. That would be... decent of them.14:50
dr_willisi tjought they reversed that here recently14:50
wols_dr_willis: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE3MzY14:51
wols_and Xorg itself is currently working on multi display support which would make optimus workable under it14:52
L3topThey appear to have... thanks for the heads up dr_willis!14:52
guangwhere i can find good resource to learning python web?14:52
* L3top expects they have just robbed and modified bumblebee... but still14:52
dr_willisbbl14:53
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nutzquit14:53
wols_L3top: no, bumblebee is just a hack, and a very ugly one. doubt they do it. but they will need Xorg support for it14:54
L3topyeah... just read http://www.pcworld.com/article/261874/coming_soon_to_linux_nvidia_optimus_graphics_support.html14:54
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phong_hi guys14:58
phong_ubuntu?14:59
yeatsphong_: got an ubuntu support question?15:00
phong_i love ubuntu15:00
phong_i just wanna let you know15:00
phong_ubuntu = host    vmware =  windows client15:00
Elise001Trying to learn to enter, save, compile, and run simple C programs on my Ubuntu system.15:01
L3topElise001: What is your question?15:01
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davelindberg@phong_ I am curious... What do you love about Ubuntu?15:02
Elise001Not quite sure where to begin. I want to set up testing environment for simple c programs on this old ubuntu system. I want to learn c better so I can eventually help with open software.15:03
Elise001I have a job teaching special ed students days.15:03
Elise001Used to program for a living a long time ago.15:03
dreamer138ubuntu: no 3d for my nvdia15:04
dreamer138:(15:04
dreamer138very depressing\15:04
Elise001My job could end any time.15:05
yeatsElise001: I would just 'sudo apt-get install build-essential vim', then google 'C programming language tutorial'15:05
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Elise001From command line?15:06
phong_davelindberg, virii free15:06
L3topall but the google bit, yes :P15:06
phong_davelindberg, fast!15:07
phong_can someone tell me how to upgrade ubuntu to lastest version?15:07
phong_i'm using 12.04lts15:07
phong_i think the latest is 12.1015:07
L3topphong_: what are you trying to get out of upgrading, out of curiosity?15:07
yeatsElise001: yes15:08
phong_L3top, i dont know , base on my thinking, latest always good isin't it/15:08
phong_L3top, maybe something news add on?15:08
phong_well...how to upgrade15:08
yeatsphong_: if you're happy on 12.04, no need to upgrade ;-)15:09
yeats!upgrade | phong_15:09
ubottuphong_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade15:09
k1lphong_: no, thats the windows view of things15:09
L3topphong_: No. Stable is always good. The latest bleeding edge release is not "always" good. Moving from LTS to latest is not clever imho, unless something you have isn't working and you need support for brand new hw that is not avail in LTS... but that is my opinion.15:09
phong_so no upgrade?15:10
ConfuciusToLaozi+1 I agree L3top opinion15:11
phong_L3top, i have image the current one15:11
phong_L3top, i still love to try out though15:11
phong_how come i dont see upgrade to 12.01015:11
phong_it said ur system is up to date15:11
yeatsphong_: read ubottu's link15:11
kongkongkongoHello. I'm having trouble with my Ubuntu install. Can anyone help me?15:13
Elise001Thank you. Doing so now. Takes a while. That is ok.15:13
foofoobarHi. How can I isntall the helvetica font for ubuntu12?15:13
kongkongkongoI've installed it several times but it still brings up the windows Boot Manager.15:13
loquaceHi #ubuntu15:14
Elise001Thanks yeats.15:14
yeatsElise001: sure15:15
Elise001yeats, are you in California like me? Just curious.15:15
yeatsElise001: nope - Georgia15:16
L3topphong if you just want to try it, install a virtual machine and load in there inside your stable install.15:16
yeats!info ttf-mscorefonts-installer | foofoobar15:16
ubottufoofoobar: ttf-mscorefonts-installer (source: msttcorefonts): Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.4ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 26 kB, installed size 130 kB15:16
L3topphong_: upgrading is a one way ticket.15:17
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yeatsphong_: make sure you've backed your files up too15:17
foofoobaryeats: thanks15:17
foofoobarand is there a shortcut for making a screenshot of just a part of the screen?15:17
foofoobaras under osx15:17
layke_Deleting any file recursively, that has *.uncompressed.js, is that just rm -rf *.uncompressed.js ?15:18
jriblayke_: nope15:18
layke_-rfR ?15:18
jriblayke_: nope15:18
layke_:P Best way?15:19
jriblayke_: you'll have to use find if you want to delete any file matching that pattern in some directory (possibly in subdirectories)15:19
L3topfind ./* -iname uncompressed.js -exec echo "rm {}" /;          remove the echo and quotes to execute. That will just tell you what it is going to do as it sits.15:20
* jrib gives L3top some coffee15:20
L3toper... dont need that *15:20
jribit seems to be working :)15:20
jriblayke_, L3top: you can just use -delete instead of the -exec there.  Also, layke_ you probably need to modify the pattern being matched with -iname a bit if I understood your original question correctly15:21
layke_Yeah, I'm realising it's not matching at all15:22
fairuz_Hi guys.. If the wireless driver just detects one signal (other operating system detect a lot more), what is the possible problem? Using Ubuntu 12.10 + broadcom adaptor15:23
L3topI did -exec rm because when I am blowing things up, I like an echo first to make sure I didn't do something stupid.15:23
layke_Okay got it thanks.15:26
layke_ind ./ -iname \*uncompressed.js\* -delete15:26
layke_find*15:26
kongo22Hello again. I've got Ubuntu to boot now, but I can't use the internet. I can connect to my network, at least it says it's connected, but Firefox can't find any servers.15:27
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tritonxhelllo15:29
tritonxanyone knows of a guide on how to install the system on a raid1 ?15:29
tritonxraid1 as another partition is easy, but to boot from it ... ?15:30
tritonxanyone ?15:30
wols_!dmraid15:30
wols_tritonx: with a fakeraid controller?15:30
tritonxfakeraid you mean software, yeah..15:31
wols_no. fakeraid. not software raid15:31
wols_!fakeraid15:31
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto15:31
kongo22Anyone able to help out with wireless internet connection?15:31
wols_!anyone > kongo2215:32
ubottukongo22, please see my private message15:32
kongo22I asked the question already but nobody's responded.15:32
wols_tritonx: in short, you will need to use dmraid (which uses your mainboards "RAID controller" that is actually fakeraid)15:32
kongo22Trying to see if there is actually someone around who can answer it.15:32
BluesKajkongo22 , ask your question with details included15:32
wols_kongo22: what IP does your wlan have?15:32
wols_your wlan interface15:33
kongo22192.168.1.115:33
wols_kongo22: that sounds like your AP IP, not your wlan interface IP15:33
kongo22If that's not it, then I don't know it.15:33
wols_ /sbin/ifconifg -a15:33
tritonxty, lot of reading to do15:33
kongo22Um. My taskbar and such have just disappeared.15:34
kongo22I'm not sure what just happened, I was about to type in terminal in the dash home search.15:34
wols_kongo22: sorry. "/sbin/ifconfig -a"   there was a typo15:34
kongo22I just have a blank background now.15:35
kongo22I see the wallpaper but that's it.15:35
kongo22Restarted.15:38
BerkoNeed some help please guys.15:38
BerkoJust a quick one15:38
BerkoI set a static IP address on my adapter. Now DNS resolution is broke :/ I have set dns-nameservers to 8.8.8.8 in interfaces and it shows in resolve.conf...15:40
wols_Berko: ping 8.8.8.815:40
BerkoI get a rely15:40
Berko*respone15:40
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wols_nslookup google.com15:40
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lipissadf15:41
Berkowols_: I get a list of several servers15:41
phunyguy_x1OK I accidentally installed that Facebook stuff in Ubuntu, how the heck do I remove it? It's not showing up in Software Center.15:43
kongo22since restarting, it's not allowing me to even log back into my network.15:43
kongo22I have the right password.15:43
phunyguy_x1nevermind.15:43
phunyguy_x1found it15:43
phunyguy_x1><15:43
kongo22Okay, connected again.15:44
Elise001How do I minimize calander on top right screen?15:44
phunyguy_x1Elise001, click the time again15:44
kongo22wols_: I ran the command you told me to, what exactly am I looking for?15:44
kongo22I don't get a wlan, I just get eth0, eth1, and lo15:45
rrajHello Everyone, Im trying to build a simple bare metal static file for arm using arm-none-eabi-gcc.15:45
rrajHello Everyone, Im trying to build a simple bare metal static file for arm using arm-none-eabi-gcc.15:45
rrajBut getting linking error as in here15:45
phong_L3top, i'm in progress of updating now15:45
rrajhttp://pastebin.com/mGeVHa7415:45
rrajhttp://pastebin.com/mGeVHa7415:45
phong_L3top, hope nothing blow up15:45
rrajcan anyone please help me to resolve it?15:46
wols_kongo22: for your wlan IP15:46
phong_is red-hat differ from ubuntu?15:46
wols_kongo22: so it seems you don't have a wlan interface. what wlan chip do you have?15:46
phong_i know both are linux os15:46
kongo22wols_: I'm not sure. I think it's a Broadcom but it was never too important for me to know before as I was using Windows.15:47
wols_rraj: you need a ARM libc15:47
darkapexphong_ : different in package managers (DEB and RPM) and funding companies and default de15:47
wols_kongo22: lspci -nn |grep -i net15:47
kongo22wols_: Network controller is BCM4321 802.11b/g/n15:48
BerkoAny ideas?15:48
L3topphong_: Yes... they are different animals. Ubuntu uses the debian packaging manager(dpkg) and redhat uses the redhat package manager (RPM). This is the fundamental difference which sets the other differences in motion.15:49
yeatsBerko: if 'nslookup google.com' returned a list of servers then DNS is working15:49
phunyguy_x1kongo22, do you have two ethernet ports?15:49
phong_L3top, and which is better?15:49
Berkoyeats: But ping google.co.uk fails...15:49
Elise001Thanks phunyguy.15:49
L3top!ot | phong_15:49
ubottuphong_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:49
wols_!b43 > kongo2215:49
ubottukongo22, please see my private message15:49
kongo22phunyguy_x1: I only see one.15:50
phunyguy_x1kongo22, then eth1 may be your wlan15:50
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phunyguy_x1(I've seen stranger)15:50
wols_kongo22: to check if one is a wlan interface, run "iwconfig"15:50
yeatsBerko: does 'ping 74.125.227.63' work?15:50
wols_Berko: then run "nslookup google.co.uk"15:51
kongo22wols_: It shows information for eth1, eth0 and lo have no wireless extensions.15:51
phunyguy_x1there goes that theory15:51
kongo22wols_: But eth1 has access point: not-associated15:51
wols_kongo22: then there is no wlan interface at all. see the howto ubottu messaged you instead. it has instructions for your bcm4321 chip too15:51
Berkoyeats: Yup15:51
yeatsBerko: how about 'nslookup google.co.uk' as wols_ suggested?15:52
wols_kongo22: it sounds liket eth1 is your wlan, but not configured correctly.15:52
phunyguy_x1kongo22, lspci -k will show you the wireless device in the list and if there is a kernel module associated with it.  And if there is, you may just be missing the firmware.15:52
kongo22phunyguy_x1: For the network controller, it says kernel driver in use: wl15:53
Berkoyeats: That resolves an address...15:53
wols_Berko: what error message does ping google.co.uk  give?15:54
phunyguy_x1kongo22, try that howto ubotto gave you.  it may give youa link to firmware that seems to be missing or incorrect15:54
ubuntuaddictedcan anyone help me with these NFS errors? http://pastebin.com/hYALNWxq15:55
BKTech86hi, I just updated to ubuntu (precise) and I can't ping myself from other devices on my LAN15:55
BKTech86can anyone help? Thanks15:55
wols_BKTech86: probably ufw which blocks it15:55
kongo22phunyguy_x1: I'm checking it out, still trying to figure out exactly what I need to download. I'll find it.15:55
BKTech86wols_: ok, what is ufw?15:55
ubuntuaddictedBKTech86, probably a DNS issue15:55
wols_!ufw15:55
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.15:55
yeatsBerko: can you pastebin the output of 'route'?15:55
ubuntuaddictedBKTech86, can you pink it by IP address?15:56
BKTech86ubuntuaddicted: no,15:56
Berkoyeats wols_ : A restart fixed the issue... seemes PING was not working more than the DNS wasen't15:56
yeatsBerko: glad to hear it15:57
BerkoThanks #Ubuntu15:57
BKTech86wols_: ufw status -> "inactive"15:57
BKTech86ubuntuaddicted: if I'm trying to ping by ip then DNS shouldn't have anything to do with it right?15:57
wols_BKTech86: what happens when you ping the IP15:57
wols_`?15:57
kongo22This is the second freeze I've gotten on Ubuntu... I'm not sure what exactly is happening.15:57
BKTech86wols_: unreacheable15:58
ubuntuaddictedBKTech86, correct, that's why I asked15:58
kongo22This time I at least have items on the screen but nothing is moving except the cursor.15:58
kongo22Now it's all gone black.15:58
kongo22Cursor's frozen as well.15:58
ubuntuaddictedBKTech86, do you normally use a hosts file? does your interfaces file have dns server entries in it?15:59
BKTech86ubuntuaddicted: i just changed it earlier today15:59
BKTech86ubuntuaddicted: but again, I'm trying to ping by ip15:59
ubuntuaddictedBKTech86, changed what?15:59
BKTech86ubuntuaddicted: i changed /etc/network/interfaces16:00
BKTech86ubuntuaddicted: adding new nameservers16:00
ubuntuaddictedBKTech86, a line like this? dns-nameservers 192.168.0.1 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.22016:00
BKTech86exactly16:01
ubuntuaddictedBKTech86, hmmm. so you can't ping by IP or hostname? And no firewalls are running?16:01
BKTech86ubuntuaddicted: but without the initial lan address like in your line16:01
BKTech86afaik ther are no fws16:02
ubuntuaddictedBKTech86, you can't ping by IP? are you sure all cables are secure? do you use static or dhcp?16:02
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BKTech861sorry got disconnected16:03
ubuntuaddictedBKTech86, you can't ping by IP? are you sure all cables are secure? do you use static or dhcp?16:03
BKTech861static IP configured in precise, cables are fine, can't ping by IP from another device16:04
BKTech861tried on 2 devices so far16:04
ubuntuaddictedBKTech861, what does route command show?16:04
ubuntuaddictedBKTech861, you don't have an IP confliction do you?16:05
kongo22How do I install a .tar.bz216:07
yeats!compile | kongo2216:07
ubottukongo22: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall16:07
blazemorekongo22: tar.bz2 is just a compressed folder, like zip files on Windows16:07
blazemorekongo22: What are you trying to install?16:08
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kongo22 blazemore: b43-fwcutter16:08
kongo22I couldn't find a regular package of it.16:08
Guest86854What is the name of the file in which I can configure Ubuntu when it should check for updates and what kind of updates.16:08
kongo22On the launchpad site there's a .dsc, .tar.bz2 and .debian.tar.gz16:09
kongo22No .deb file, at least not for 12.1016:09
Pitelhow can I set screensaver and screen lock in quantal? I upgraded from precise, and it's not in settings!16:09
yeatsGuest86854: it's called "Software Sources" in the menu but the program is 'software-settings-gtk'16:10
yeatsGuest86854: sorry 'software-properties-gtk' - my mistake16:10
BKTech86ubuntuaddicted: after adding the router to the DNS file and rebooting, the problem was resolved16:11
BKTech86thanks16:11
Guest86854yeats,16:11
Guest86854yeats, thx16:11
ubuntuaddictedBKTech86, awesome.16:11
Guest86854yeats, would you know what the file name is in /etc?16:11
BKTech86kind of strange16:11
BKTech86tbh16:11
BKTech86but w/e16:11
ubuntuaddictedGuest86854, it may be within /etc/apt/16:12
Guest86854ubuntuaddicted, thx16:12
ubuntuaddictedGuest86854, maybe preferences or something like that16:12
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Guest86854Can I upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to Kubuntu 12.10 ?16:12
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dfgas-cr48i can just chmod a-x /etc/init.d/bluetooth to get it to stop loading on boot right?16:14
kongo22Why does my Ubuntu keep freezing? It generally happens when I'm trying to use the search on dash home.16:15
kongo22I've restarted three times already.16:15
ubuntuaddictedGuest86854, yes. after you upgrade to 12.10, you can then install the kde desktop package16:15
slawomirguestpl16:16
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Guest86854ubuntuaddicted, that is the easiest way?16:16
ubuntuaddictedGuest86854, there's no other way to my knowledge16:17
yeatsGuest86854: other than re-installing with kubuntu 12.1016:18
* yeats personally thinks reinstallation is easier sometimes than upgrades16:19
neurecan i have newer clang version than 3.0 for ubuntu 12.04(.1) ?16:19
* MonkeyDust always fresh installs because it's easier than upgrade16:19
mifritscherhi16:20
mifritscherdoes a sudo i; echo disabled > /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/mode work for anybody? (I've a notebook with a defective sensor...)16:20
yeats!info clang16:20
ubottuclang (source: clang): Low-Level Virtual Machine (LLVM), C language family frontend. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0-6ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 5051 kB, installed size 12597 kB16:20
Guest86854ubuntuaddicted, yeats thx16:21
kongo22Okay, I've followed all the instructions for installing a new broadcom driver except the last one.16:21
kongo22How do I get to System > Administration > etc.? I don't see that anywhere.16:21
kongo22I'm using 12.1016:21
yeatsneure: looks like there may be PPAs with newer versions16:21
Alexey_prostakovhello friends16:21
yeats!ppa | neure16:21
ubottuneure: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge16:21
phunyguy_x1kongo22, what portion of system admin are you looking for?16:21
neurewhat version of clang would i get with 12.10?16:22
kongo22phunyguy_x1: Hardware/Additional Drivers16:22
yeatsneure: 3.0.616:22
Elise001My computer has a bad battery. It goes down a lot.16:22
phunyguy_x1type that in the unity launcher, kongo2216:22
phunyguy_x1=P16:22
kongo22phunyguy_x1: What is the unity launcher?16:22
rohnis ubuntu 12.04 support efi??16:22
phunyguy_x1the top button on your unity panel16:22
phunyguy_x1where you launch apps from kongo2216:23
kongo22phunyguy_x1: Okay. That's been causing my computer to freeze frequently.16:23
phunyguy_x1oh16:23
kongo22phunyguy_x1: Also, typing hardware brought nothing up.16:23
phunyguy_x1hmm same for me16:23
phunyguy_x1where did it go16:23
yeatsphunyguy_x1: kongo22: it's a tab under Software Sources16:25
phunyguy_x1thanks yeats16:25
kongo22Thanks, yeats.16:26
kongo22Installing all that stuff did not get my connection to work.16:26
kongo22Going to restart to see if it does.16:26
kongo22Otherwise I'm not sure what to do.16:26
phunyguy_x1check your wireless switch on the laptop16:26
phunyguy_x1:)16:26
kongo22It's not a laptop.16:26
phunyguy_x1oh16:26
phunyguy_x1i tried.16:26
kongo22And I connect to the internet.16:26
jriblayke_, L3top: you can just use -delete instead of the -exec there.  Also, layke_ you probably need to modify the pattern being matched with -iname a bit if I understood your original question correctly16:26
kongo22It's just that it doesn't bring up any web pages.16:26
jriblayke_, L3top: erm, oops.  Wrong shell.16:27
phunyguy_x1kongo22, it sounds like firmware16:27
kongo22phunyguy_x1: I'm pretty sure I just installed new firmware...16:28
phunyguy_x1then you need to reload the kernel module16:28
phunyguy_x1(or restart)16:28
kongo22phunyguy_x1: Yeah, restarting now.16:28
andrea__salve a tutti16:28
kongo22Still no server.16:30
kongo22Not worth it anymore.16:30
kongo22Thanks for everybody who tried to help.16:30
kongo22to everybody, rather.16:30
phunyguy_x1yw, kongo2216:31
hdkdlDoes anybody know when there will be an 12.10 package for Retroshare?16:31
r33P33rheya16:32
Alexey_prostakovHello friends! I have questions about empathy, can I talk about it here?16:39
Linkandzeldadudes how do I make ubtnu remember my desktop session when i startup?16:39
edbianAlexey_prostakov, this is the place.  I can't promise that I can help you though16:40
jroaLinkandzelda, did you install it?16:40
VLanXi would like to connect my TV monitor with HDMI to my motherboard HDMI output. Will i have problems with HDCP?16:40
hdkdlWhen will there be Ubuntu packages for Retroshare? http://retroshare.sourceforge.net16:41
hdkdlI mean for 12.1016:41
fegohdkdl: till anyone package it for 12.1016:41
edbianVLanX, I think that's only a problem with blu-ray drives / blue-ray movies.  For the OS and applications it should work fine.16:42
edbianVLanX, and any movies you download from certain websites through certain protocols should work fine.  It's when you play a blue-ray disk in a blue-ray drive that HDCP is a prob.16:43
Alexey_prostakovMost room from jabber server - jabber.ru have captcha protection. But I don't see captcha (image) or message about captcha in  empathy. How can I join in this room by empathy?16:43
VLanXedbian. really? cause i've heard that even HDMI splitter must be HDCP comliant, and that's sad16:43
edbianVLanX, are you using a splitter?16:43
gordonjcpI wonder if that's why my PS3 only works with my Panasonic TV through a cheap crappy splitter16:43
VLanXedbian: i might have to buy it to view the same thing on two different monitors16:44
Linkandzeldajroa: install what?16:44
VLanXedbian: but no bluray player involved16:44
lcabreza2Unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:8081 : can someone help how to get rid of this ..im doing apt-get install or update ..i tried to to the export thing didn't work16:44
edbianVLanX, I'm not sure.  But I suspect it won't be an issue unless you're playing a blue-ray disk16:44
VLanXedbian: http://www.ehow.com/about_5623159_hdmi-switcher-problems.html16:44
jroaLinkandzelda are you booting your computer from a disk/usb or the hard drive?16:45
edbianVLanX, well there ya go!  Looks like you know more than I do!16:45
Linkandzeldajroa: HDD, and what i mean by remember my session i mean to reopen the applications I had open when i start up again16:45
Linkandzeldait remembers the "session" like installed stuff etc16:45
VLanXedbian: no i just fount that, i'm reading it now16:45
jroaOh, never mind then.16:46
VLanXedbian: btw i think that i can know only if i try16:46
edbianVLanX, yeah, probably right16:46
dr_willisLinkandzelda: you useing unity or some other desktop?16:47
Linkandzeldadr_willis: using unity atm16:47
dr_willisi haven't seen a session feature in gnome in ages. they may have removed the feature16:48
dr_willisold factoid on it16:49
dr_willis!session16:49
ubottuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot16:49
Alexey_prostakovHow off message type "Remote host closed the connection"?16:52
arno_Hi, does anyone known of a good netbook that works fine with ubuntu/linux ? I know of the asus eeepc, but it looks like there are not really graphics driver for their latest products...16:56
lhavelund!hardware > arno_16:56
ubottuarno_, please see my private message16:56
dr_willisthe forums would also be a good place to look.16:58
dr_willismy 2 netbooks (1-3 yrs old) wirk fine16:59
^MikeWhat's the syslog thing that does hashing of logs to ensure they can't be tampered with without you knowing?17:00
tritonxLet's say I have two drive one 160GB with an old system and a new 500GB. can I just dd if=160GB of=500GB or do I have to "prep" it17:00
tritonx?17:00
arno_lhavelund: thanks, but there is nothing about netbook in the hardware support wiki17:00
bipulHellow how can i changed my root password?, i have already try to  inside grud mode by roobting a system and pressing shift key or ESC . is there any other alternative17:01
dr_willistritonx: you could. then use gparted17:01
tritonxthen use gparted to make it bootable ?17:01
amunakhello, how can I use gksu to start gnome-terminal with some parameters as root and then run series of command on the terminal?17:02
dr_willisbipul: you set an actual root user password?17:02
amunakand preferably make it so it doesn't have to be in one line17:02
bipuldr_willis,  i don't remember, i am using 12.04 LTS17:02
arno_dr_willis: yes, but it is cumbersom to register to a forum, especially since I don't have a computer of my own right now17:02
dr_willistritonx: should boot. but you do want to use the bigger space on the hd. ;-)17:02
arno_dr_willis: what are your netbook models ?17:03
tritonxI'll make a partition after with the remaining space17:03
dr_willisarno_: an asus aspier one and some other i forget17:04
tritonxanother question , can you mount a drive to a .iso file ?17:04
dr_willistritonx: that dosent make sense.17:04
dr_willis!iso17:04
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.17:04
tritonxso that I can mount it in vitualpc17:04
norexduring the ubuntu install if the internet connection is lost (when update is selected) could it mess up the installation ?17:04
tritonxI cant find ways to use a drive or usb as the host drive17:05
wols_dr_willis: asus makes eeepcs and acer makes aspire netbooks :P17:05
arno_dr_willis: thanks17:05
wols_tritonx: you can use raw partitions in virtualbox. there is no virtualpc17:06
tritonxIf I could mount /dev/sdb1 to usb.iso , I could boot from that in the vm17:06
GRRR3hey guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a dell inspiron laptop, i went through the whole process, but when i try to boot it goes to a blank screen nothing happens17:06
wols_tritonx: what VM do you actually use?17:06
tritonxsorry , same thing :P17:06
wols_tritonx: no it's not17:06
tritonxvirtualbox17:06
tritonxone is outdated...17:06
tritonxand no one use it17:06
tritonxI use the Oracle one17:07
wols_tritonx: virtualbox manual chapter 9.8.117:07
dr_willistritonx: vbox can boot iso files17:07
willdabeastanyone very familiar with cairo-dock?17:07
wols_dr_willis: he wants to boot from an existing usb stick17:07
tritonxtell me more ... thats why I want to mount my usb or any directory to a .iso...17:07
wols_tritonx: I gave you the manual where it is explained17:08
dr_williswols_: also doable. ;-)17:08
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llutzdr_willis: booting vbox from real-USB devices? since when?17:09
dr_willistritonx: no need for the tricks. you could image the usb to a file and boot it also.. but its not an iso file17:09
amunakhow can I use gksu to start gnome-terminal with some parameters as root and then run series of command on the terminal? and preferably make it so it doesn't have to be in one line.17:09
wols_llutz: since forever basically. disk raw access17:09
llutzwols_: USB17:09
tritonxthank you wols17:09
dr_willisllutz: i recall seeing it done17:09
tritonxyou cant do it in the UI right ?17:10
dr_willisimageing the usb to a file would be faste4 i bet.17:10
dr_willisbbl17:10
tritonxBut I want to test if the drives are working properly17:10
tritonxmaking an iso of them would miss the point17:11
sajjadbaeidi1how can help me about ntp server17:11
sajjadbaeidi1?17:11
douglI get 404 errors when apt-get update lists my sources - where do I correct the address in the list or delete the reference?17:12
ubuntuaddictedamunak, sounds like a back script, check the bash channel17:12
tritonxsynaptic package manager17:12
amunakubuntuaddicted, yeah, thanks.17:12
ubuntuaddictedsajjadbaeidi1, http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/04/30/time-synchronization-on-ubuntu-12-04lts-using-ntp/17:14
willdabeastanyone very familiar with cairo-dock?17:14
bipuli am unable to record my voice on my ubuntu 12.04 lts any one any idea i have used this command killall pulseaudio17:17
GRRR3sorry, was afk for a bit there...17:17
GRRR3hey guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a dell inspiron laptop, i went through the whole process, but when i try to boot it goes to a blank screen nothing happens17:18
wiehantrouble with latest nvidia drivers (selected and installed from "software sources" - [what happened to jockey-gtk?]) after installation there are no window borders and now menus and the resolution is awefully low17:18
wiehanHow must one install any nvidia drivers? I am using a gtx 5 series card...17:18
ubuntuaddictedGRRR3, sounds like a graphics driver issue. can you tell me what graphics card you have?17:19
GRRR3i have no idea, ubuntu addicted17:19
ubuntuaddictedGRRR3, can you hit ctrl-alt F1 and login into a terminal session?17:19
GRRR3nope17:20
jroaGRRR3 can you boot a live session?17:20
ubuntuaddictedGRRR3, so after full boot up and a blank screen, you can't hit ctrl-alt F1?17:20
GRRR3unfortunately i only haev the alternative install CD, not a live CD17:20
GRRR3is that the only option for me? to try a live cd?17:20
GRRR3i don't know its a "full bootup".. it gets passed the bios screen and then goes blank17:21
deffenyhello17:21
deffenyi am news17:21
deffeny大家好17:22
jroaGRR3:  it would probably be a good idea to burn a live disk and see if you still have the same problem.17:22
GRRR3but then i can't install LVM :(17:22
deffenycan you teach me ubuntu17:22
GRRR3but i guess if thats the only option, its worth a shot17:22
GRRR3any other ideas before i logoff?17:22
deffenyhow to use17:22
zgrHello after update to 12.10 from 12.04 I have issues with video driver (NV 8400M GS) nouveau shows lots of artifacts, nvidia-current/-updates simply can't run: glx extension missing, I've linux-source and linux-header-generic installed but that doesn't help. How to get my GPU working?17:23
tritonxzgr, dont use nouveau driver ?17:23
GRRR3guess not. thanks guys17:24
zgrtritonx: maybe I wasn't clear enough but nvidia-current and nvidia-current-update can't run properly17:24
zgrtoo17:25
tritonxfresh install ?17:25
tritonxtried different window manager ? xfce ?17:25
zgrglxinfo says GLX extension missing -> no acceleration17:26
tritonxcant help you sorry17:26
bipulOye can any one tell me what's wrong with my audio in my ubuntu 12.0417:26
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sajjadbaeidi1how can help me about ntp server configuration ?17:32
sajjadbaeidi1how can help me about ntp server configuration ?17:32
sajjadbaeidi1how can help me about ntp server configuration ?17:32
sajjadbaeidi1how can help me about ntp server configuration ?17:32
zgrok got it solved: depmod -a17:33
moondoggyHi there.  Can someone tell me if dbus is still in use, or if something else has taken over?17:34
jribmoondoggy: still in use17:35
zgrdamned even with proprietary nvidia driver I got corrupted output =(17:35
moondoggyjrib, you think I should learn that one, or some newer, better system?17:35
jribmoondoggy: what do you want to accomplish?17:35
moondoggyWell, a few things--check to see if some homemade daemon is running, get data from a fortran program into a python program...17:36
moondoggy...then more, as I need it.17:37
whoever_moondoggy: why not just use pidOF in bash17:37
whoever_to get the running program that you are looking for17:37
moondoggywhoever_, that might be a start.17:37
moondoggyas for passing data from one program to another?17:38
whoever_moondoggy: i think it would be easier in python, although you can do that in java17:39
L3topmoondoggy: would depend on what kind of data and how.17:39
moondoggyAh, pidof sounds useful.17:39
moondoggyI'm a python guy...17:39
whoever_moondoggy: well there you go17:40
moondoggyL3top, well, to start,  simple fortran arrays.17:40
fellayaboyhow do i find a file using terminal...im trying to find a file called myfile.txt  i do find myfile.txt and it says it didnt find anything i know its in the system somewhere17:40
FussyCashewHello all :)17:41
moondoggyI've been writing files from the fortran code, then reading them in the python program, but that gets messy as I do more.17:41
fegofellayaboy: find / -name myfile.txt -print 2>/dev/null17:41
fellayaboywhy -print 2>/dev/null17:41
wiehanI am completely stuck in low res graphics after 12.10 and attempting to install nvidia-current drivers throught the additional drivers dialogue in software sources... not even going back to nouvoue fixes it... please please help17:41
whoever_moondoggy: why are you reading fortran into python17:41
fellayaboyfego why -print 2>/dev/null17:42
fegofellayaboy: it will send the errors you get due to not having read permissions on files, to a null bucket17:42
moondoggyI have an ancient, huge, fortran program, and I wanted to see if I can grab data while it's running.17:42
fellayaboyooh ok thank you fego17:42
whoever_moondoggy: why not create your own  parsere in python and it would'nt be that messy then17:42
moondoggy...grab it in my python program.17:42
FussyCashewI'm trying to access a port from WAN that has a service running on it on my ubuntu desktop machine... When I check it on canyouseeme.org it shows as open, but when I attempt to connect, the connection times out and the port closes, any help?17:43
moondoggyYeah, I have a parser, but I want to make it possible to put something unobtrusive in the fortran to make some variable available via--what--dbus? dmesg?17:43
moondoggyI don17:43
moondoggyI don't want to change the output format of the fortran program.17:44
whoever_FussyCashew: is your client liseneing for the connection17:44
wiehanHow do I reset xconfig/xserver???17:44
fellayaboyfego how do i make it scan the whole system? and all its subdirectories... i did the command and im 1000% certain its not going in deep enuff in the ssytem17:44
wiehanI just want a decent reolution and my nvidia drivers working - have only had headaches since installing 12.1017:44
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L3topmoondoggy: where does this fortran program put that information?17:45
whoever_moondoggy: so your not really reading the fortran file, your trying to access user enterd data?17:45
moondoggywhoever_, L3top  is this possible to do?17:45
bodyownshello, which is the correct form to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu 12.10  for nvidia gt 540m ? i'm asking because first i already broke my linux, now i reinstalled, it's clean17:45
fegofellayaboy: the above command line will search the whole system starting from the / dir17:45
FussyCashewwhoever_: Yes, it works over LAN, but not over WAN. What I'm trying to do is set up MediaTomb's UI to be accessible over WAN.17:45
fegoand its child dirs17:45
whoever_FussyCashew: then check your port forward in your router17:46
VLanXcan i see if 3D support is enabled or not on my 12.10 desktop ?17:46
wiehanain't nobody got time for broken graphics, low res in 12.1017:46
fellayaboywell for example fego i did ..  find / -iname *.desktop and it returned only a few *.desktop files and i know theres way more i dont get whats up17:46
moondoggyThe particular data I want is not in any output files.  Suppose I have a variable "x" in the fortran program and I want to have fortran put that somewhere, other than a file, where I can access it from python.17:46
FussyCashewwhoever_: I've placed my machine in DMZ and tried turning off the firewall on the router.17:47
fegofellayaboy: why -iname ? just simply -name17:47
FussyCashewwhoever_: Also, the ports should be forwarded.17:47
bodyownssomeone ? please?17:47
fellayaboyjust in case theres uppercases..i want find to ignore if its upper cases17:47
FussyCashew192.168.0.117:47
FussyCashewahh oops17:48
bodyownsFussyCashew:17:48
FussyCashewtwo keyboards, sorry17:48
wiehanPLEASE.. I have installed and reinstalled the nvidia drivers, I have reverted back to neuvou, I am using a nvidia 500 series card (worked in12.04).. now after just trying to install the latest drivers I am stuck in LOOOOOOOOOW res17:48
bodyownssame problem here17:48
whoever_moondoggy: you need to edit your formtan to output x to a file or add a line to send it to your python program , you need some sort of interface in your fortran to do this17:49
fegofellayaboy: Recent versions of GNU find seem to have an -iname flag, for case-insensitive name search.17:49
moondoggyHeh, yeah, that's what I'm looking for.  dbus isn't what I want?17:49
wiehancgn{17:49
bodyownswiehan17:50
whoever_FussyCashew: try to ssh to that port , just to see if you can connect over WAN17:50
bodyownswiehan:17:50
fellayaboyyeah exactly...if the file name is MyFile.txt ..using -iname myfile.txt will find MyFile.txt for me17:50
muh2000hi all17:50
muh2000i have trouble upgrading 12.04 -> 12.10.  it complains about the file /usr/share/doc/libdrm2/changelog.Debian.gz17:51
L3topmoondoggy: if you can make it bark you can wrap the instance in a shell which creates an array based on the captured output and can be manipulated how you want I guess would be the way I went about it... going the other direction could get dicey. #bash might be a better place to get an answer.17:51
fegofellayaboy: just in case,you wont be able to find the files that dont have required privileges from your user17:51
wiehanuseless17:52
whoever_moondoggy: right, it sounds that your fortran was not witten with expantion in mind so it is all containd in the program and needs a way to get out17:52
fellayaboybut if i use sudo find / i will right?17:52
moondoggyOh, a shell for "stdout" that the user doesn't see?17:52
fegofellayaboy: yes17:52
fellayaboyfego thats false cuz i used sudo and still its not going in deep17:52
moondoggyWhat's bark?17:52
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whoever_moondoggy: that will do pipe to null to make sure they don't see it17:53
FrozenFireI'm having an issue trying to install an EFI-compatible version of Ubuntu on a box alongside Windows. It would seem that the 32-bit version of Ubuntu is not EFI-compatible. Boot-repair suggests installing the 64-bit version, but I can't fathom how that would work, since the 64-bit version is built for the amd64 arch, is it not?17:53
fegofellayaboy: everytime it works for me :D17:53
fegowach time17:53
whoever_ moondoggy well null is incorrect here but hopefully you see where i am goin'17:53
FussyCashewwhoever_: Connection timed out17:54
moondoggyI think so.  the shell around the fortran get stdout and stderr from the fortran and deals with it, while the user only sees what the shell wants her to?17:54
fegofellayaboy: when you specify / to find, find automatically searches the subdirs too17:54
moondoggywhoever_, is that right, what I said above?17:57
moondoggyIf so, I can dig around to figure out exactly how.17:57
wiehanGood God. People, I cannot find help with Google. How do I comepletly reset my ubuntu 12.10 graphics configuration17:58
L3topCorrect moondoggy17:58
wiehanmsg nickserv identify wiehan17:59
wiehanoops17:59
bng_hi all, Ubuntu installer created swap partition on my SSD, isn't that wrong?17:59
moondoggyL3top, Thanks. whoever_ too.  You mean a bash shell, right?17:59
jparktonwiehan, http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-restore-default-video-drivers18:00
wilee-nileebng_, Can you pastebin a sidudo fdisk -lu18:00
wilee-nileesudi fdisk -lu   sirry18:00
wilee-nileesudo* doh18:00
moondoggyYou mean "dih."18:00
L3topmoondoggy: if you pm me and tell me what you want it to do I can probably throw it together pretty quick, or at least give you a good place to start.18:01
moondoggyHeh.  what command is for pm?  :)18:03
bng_wilee-nilee: it's an LVM logical volume, it is the size of RAM18:03
fegomoondoggy: /msg L3top yourmessage18:03
moondoggyfego, thanks.18:03
MonkeyDustmoondoggy  first ask if it's ok to pm18:03
whoever_funch: then the problen is how that port is accesed from your router18:04
phunyguy_x1MonkeyDust, someone just told him to.18:04
phunyguy_x1lol18:04
bng_I mean, one should not use swap on SSD, right?18:04
wilee-nileebng_, I'm not familiar with lvm, but the swap will be put where you tell it to I assume.18:04
whoever_moondoggy: ya that will do18:04
bng_wilee-nilee: that is the thing, I let the quantal installer to take the whole disk using its defaults, I only ticked the lvm and encryption options18:05
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wilee-nileebng_, From seeing others comments on lvm it has a good and bad side, did you investigate all its uses and whether it was really applicable for you or just decide to install it?18:08
emesmy keyboard shortcuts on 12.10 sometimes get reset when I restart... what's going on?18:08
wilee-nileeemes, I think you have to set them in compiz, did you do it that way?18:09
bng_I didn't investigate all the uses, but they say it should be easier to resize, backup and add partitions to it18:09
bng_wilee-nilee: I didn't investigate all the uses, but they say it should be easier to resize, backup and add partitions to it18:09
emeswilee-nilee: I set them in system settings18:10
wilee-nileebng_, Cool, you can control the writes to the swap. The general consensus is that a ssd card can take as many writes as a disc type HD now so look for the writing to it control.18:11
Fodi69hi, I want to install Adobe AIR on ubuntu 12.04, but when I run the bin file, it says the error: execvp: Permission denied18:11
mindoFodi69, sudo?18:11
wilee-nileeemes, unity is a plugin in compiz try it there, I see people commenting on this but I have not seen myself the actual answer to it.18:12
blastedtHi, can gpart on a live-cd remove a partition with an OS on it and extend a different partition with that space, or is that impossible?18:12
Hattorihello, is there a way to record audio with a terminal tool? like what you can do with audacity but being able to do that within a script..18:12
fegoFodi69: have you checked if the executables bit is enabled?18:12
gordonjcpHattori: arecord18:13
bng_wilee-nilee: don't you know where I would setup the rules for writing? I have enough RAM, I don't think I even need suspending18:13
wilee-nileeblastedt, yes you can remove add and move partitions around, but they have to be in numerical order from left to right.18:13
Hattorigordonjcp, ok, I think I've tried that before without success18:14
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Fodi69fego: yes18:14
blastedtwilee-nilee: will it be nondestructive? im looking to remove a dual-boot and restore the space to one OS. thanks18:14
Fodi69mindo: yes, everything with sudo18:14
gordonjcpHattori: that's a shame18:14
gordonjcpbecause that's what you use18:15
Hattorino alternatives i guess?18:15
gordonjcppossibly18:15
gordonjcpwhy would I bother with an alternative, when arecord works18:15
HattoriI wouldn't18:15
gordonjcpHattori: unfortunately there's absolutely no way to guess what the problem is18:16
Hattori;)18:16
blastedtbased on this: http://www.zoringroup.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2601 it looks to be relatively simple, but I don't know whether that's out of date18:16
gordonjcpHattori: perhaps if you can describe the problem you're having, someone can help18:17
Hattoriindeed, one sec18:17
wilee-nileeblastedt, This W7 and you want to remove ubuntu?18:18
blastedtyeah... ubuntu crashes as soon as I load it up unfortunately, so I need to restore the space as the HDD is rather small and I allocated half to each OS18:18
gordonjcpblastedt: why not try fixing the crashes?18:19
Hattorigordonjcp,  "arecord --quiet --file-type wav --rate=8000 > file.wav" records a wav file that is completely mute.18:20
Hattoriand the audio is being played from the browser18:20
blastedtgordonjcp: I spent six or so hours trying to, got to the point where it turned out the stock video drivers were causing horrible slowdown, and nvidia's cause the boot crash.  I'd keep trying but finals are coming up very soon and I just want the space at this point18:20
gordonjcpHattori: maybe you should check that you've got the input set correctly, and you're actually recording from somewhere sane18:20
wilee-nileeblastedt, Do you have a W7 recovery or install disc or usb to rewrite the mbr?18:20
blastedtwilee-nilee: yup, watching a video now on MBR repair18:21
wilee-nileeblastedt, This is not a ubuntu install from windows a wubi right?18:21
blastedtwilee-nilee: i installed windows first then used the live-cd to resize the partition and install ubuntu while outside windows18:22
blastedtnot using wubi18:22
Kinder-Pingvihi. i have mobility radeon hd 4650 on my notebook... i'm installed kubuntu 12.10, but in "additional drivers" no drivers for me O_o.. ubuntu 12.04 - all ok...18:23
blastedtlooks like i need the recovery commandline in windows bootrec /fixmbr bootrec /fixboot18:23
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wilee-nileeblastedt, Cool boot the recovery or install disc go to the repair terminal and run bootrec.exe /fixmbr  to put windows in the mbr. Check that it boots, if it is good, then boot the ubuntu live cd and remove the ubuntu including the extended leaving a unallocated space. Then use the W7 disk manager to resize windows not gparted.18:24
blastedtwilee-nilee: thank you!18:25
joint2kboot windows 7 cd.. choose repair and get to the prompt..   c:, bootrec.exe /fixboot, bootrec.exe /fixmbr18:25
joint2kfor those with ati.amd radeon issues in 12.10 see here  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide18:27
phong_hi guys, why after upgrade to ubuntu 12.10 i got display problem18:34
phong_it give me the lowest resolution18:34
phong_help me guys18:34
phong_is ubuntu 12.10 has bug with display issue?18:35
drkokandythanks joint2k - this is helpful. I could only get the open source drivers to work18:36
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mstentaI'm trying to get an EFI boot of Ubuntu working on my Macbook. I have successfully installed Ubuntu on a partition, and I followed the instructions here (http://mennucc1.debian.net/macbook_linux_efi.html) to create a Grub image in /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu... but when it boots I just get a Grub prompt. Any Grub wizards in here who can give me some pointers?18:43
c_smith_Hi, I am trying to set up a dual boot with Windows and Ubuntu 12.10, I have Windows installed, but whenever I get to the partitioning in Ubuntu, it never detects the Windows partitions (shows the HDD as empty which I know it's not) is there something I can try to get this working?18:43
wilee-nileec_smith_, Take a screen shot of gparted a app on the live cd of the HD and pastebin it.18:44
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wilee-nileeimagebin actually c_smith18:45
c_smith_wilee-nilee: will do once this disk check finishes.18:45
FlowRiserc_smith, tri using Wubi on windows it will work like a charm.18:45
c_smith_FlowRiser: Wubi limits me to using 30GB for the install, far too little for what I use Ubuntu for.18:45
wilee-nileec_smith_, I just wonder if the HD is maxed on the primary partitions and this is why.18:46
c_smith_wilee-nilee: Windows only created 2 partitions, if memory serves correctly, the cap for the number of primary partitions is 418:46
wilee-nileeFlowRiser, Even the designer of wubi suggests not to use it long term. http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/18:47
c_smith_anywho, gonna log into my main on my tablet so I can let windows run this disk check.18:47
FlowRiserc_smith, i know for a fact windows likes to be first on a hdd so try rearanging your partitions :-?18:48
wilee-nileec_smith_, Correct on the primaries, I would see if the HD shows the windows in gparted or a fdisk -l it couls be a number of reasons why you are not seeing it.18:48
_cronus_c_smith_, if there is a dmraid controller you could set the nodmraid boot option at other options menu18:48
FlowRiserwilee-nilee, i had no ideea ... i'm gonna do some reading i guess18:49
Mark__Anyone here know about macs?18:50
jrib!anyone | Mark__18:50
ubottuMark__: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.18:50
wilee-nileeFlowRiser, If needed the wubi can be moved to a partition at your whim.18:50
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c_smithOk, running disk check on windows could take a bit.18:51
LoCusFhello, I have a Z77X-UP7 motherboard from gigabyte, which has a propietary chipset from PLX. It is the 8747 chioset but there are not drivers for it in ubuntu, does anyone know how to find the driver for it?18:51
FlowRiserwilee-nilee, to be honest i would really like a separate hdd for ubuntu :-? I tend to do a lot of stupid things to my partitions....18:51
Mark__Im running ubuntu 12.10 everything was working fine I just did some updates and then switched the video driver from x.org to the nvidia driver tested18:51
Mark__When I rebooted the desktop does not load18:52
Mark__I just see the wallpaper18:52
c_smithAnd if you all are suggesting seperate hard disks, this is a laptop18:52
FlowRiserMark__, try using the ubuntu 2d see if that helps18:52
wilee-nileeFlowRiser, You can do that I believe with the wubi transfer as well.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi18:53
T_A_N_KHello, i am on a powerpc macintosh G4, i was wondering, how do i even boot into recovery mode? I have forgotten the password of my main user, and i am on ubuntu 12.04 btw18:53
Mark__How do I switch since I have no controls FlowRiser .18:53
T_A_N_KOn the ubuntu for mac, it is very strange and the grub menu does not even come up18:53
FlowRiserMark__, do you have the login screen ?18:53
Mark__T_A_N_K:  you cant use grub on macs18:53
Mark__FlowRiser: Yes18:54
T_A_N_Kthen how do i boot into recovery mode?18:54
FlowRiserMark__, next to your username should be a small button, press it and select unity-2d18:54
Mark__T_A_N_K: You need refit18:54
T_A_N_Kwhat the mother goose.18:55
Mark__Huh??18:55
FlowRiserT_A_N_K, try rebooting and pressing shift18:55
FlowRiseri think it was shift18:55
FlowRiseri can't remember for sure18:55
Mark__FlowRiser: He needs refit to boot18:55
FlowRiserMark__, is refit only for macintosh ?18:56
Mark__The Mac won't use grub boot loader because its not mbr18:56
foodIs there anyone good in in Ubuntu Live CD customization please? I need some help18:56
FlowRiseri see18:56
Mark__FlowRiser: I believe so18:56
c_smithMark_, there's GRUB-EFI,18:57
foodI have chrooted the ISO... I want to install the kernel on my Live CD(ISO) and remove the old kernel18:57
c_smithSo Refit isn't the only boatloader that supports EFI18:57
Mark__FlowRiser: I see no way to switch from login screen18:57
FlowRiserMark__, hmm, what desktop environment are you using ?18:58
Mark__Unity18:58
FlowRiserMark__, it is right next to your username then in the right side the canonical logo18:58
FlowRiserit just begs to be pressed18:59
Mark__Don't see it18:59
Hattori"arecord --quiet --file-type wav --rate=8000 > file.wav" records a wav file with audio taken from the mic. how can I specify the source where to take the audio from? if i record with audacity, the sound is not taken from the mic, but from whatever the system is playing. how can i do the same thing with arecord?18:59
FlowRiserMark__, odd, you need to go into recovery mode and set it manually18:59
Mark__c_smith:  I like refit19:00
_cronus_food, what do you mean by chrooted the iso? have you extracted filesystem.squashfs and then chrooted to it?19:00
FlowRiserMark__, you need to change the user-session to unity-2d manually, i can't really recall how i did it last time19:00
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c_smithMark_, i'm not suggesting you try, just saying GRUB is an option.19:01
wyclifhey19:01
Mark__Anyone know how to switch to unity 2d on 12.10?19:01
FlowRiserMark__, http://www.tejasbarot.com/2012/05/17/howto-change-default-user-session-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-login-session-desktop-environment/19:01
FlowRiserit's all there :D19:01
Nickinizkardesler19:02
Nickinizturkeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy19:02
Nickinizturkeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy19:02
Nickiniz?19:02
food_cronus_, yeah, I just want to install the kernel 6.5 and remove 3.2 . I am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization but i stacked with kernel19:02
FloodBot1Nickiniz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:02
Mark__FlowRiser: Will that work for 12.10 as well?19:02
ThinkT510Mark__: unity2d was removed from 12.1019:02
fellayaboyhey i want to ssh into a machine in my lan do i have to open that port for that server on my router?>19:03
_cronus_food, do you get any errors?19:03
tsubakiok I'm having an issue getting Nvidia drivers to work on 12.10, I'm stuck in 1024x768 with nouveau and when I install the official ones Unity wont start19:03
JimmyNeutronfellayaboy: You need to open port 22 for SSH19:03
wilee-nilee!uck19:03
ubottuuck is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/19:03
Mark__ThinkT510: Ok so do what the issue is ?19:03
wilee-nileefood, ^^^^^^19:03
FrozenFireI'm having an issue trying to install an EFI-compatible version of Ubuntu on a box alongside Windows. It would seem that the 32-bit version of Ubuntu is not EFI-compatible. Boot-repair suggests installing the 64-bit version, but I can't fathom how that would work, since the 64-bit version is built for the amd64 arch, is it not?19:04
fellayaboyusually my router only supports opening one port for one machine...how do i work around this?19:04
ThinkT510Mark__: you tell me, your the one with the problem19:04
JimmyNeutronfellayaboy: Open 22 only if you're coming in from the WAN.  If on the LAN, then no.19:04
Mark__ThinkT510: Switched to nvidia tested driver now desktop won't load19:04
wilee-nileeFrozenFire, I would post a thread at the ubuntu forums as well.19:04
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ThinkT510Mark__: oh, i don't use the nvidia drivers sorry19:04
food_cronus_, i installed the kernel with dpkg -i command but did not able to remove the old kernel. Just to test i generated the ISO but i get error of Kernel Panic19:04
JimmyNeutronfellayaboy: Go to your router page and access the Port Forwarding page19:04
tsubakiThinkT510 : I think im getting the same problem19:04
foodwilee-nilee, ?19:04
Mark__ThinkT510: Is there a way to switch back?19:05
FrozenFirewilee-nilee, There does seem to be a few such threads, but none of them seem to really answer the question of whether a 64-bit version of Ubuntu will run on an Intel arch19:05
wilee-nileefood, The bot message on uck19:05
FlowRiserMark__, you need to remove the drivers then :( i hope you remember what you installed19:05
wilee-nileeFrozenFire, Hence your own thread.19:05
FlowRiserMark__, "sudo apt-get remove *name*"19:05
Mark__How do I do that FlowRiser19:05
brandon420How can I restart my sound driver without restarting?19:05
brandon420(when i unplug-replug my headphones it starts to satic)19:06
tsubakiMark__ : do you need to fall back to nouveau?19:06
NickinizTürkiyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee19:06
foodwilee-nilee, If i use the UCK then still don't i need to install the kernel manually?19:06
Mark__FlowRiser: How do I boot into single user?19:06
NickinizTurkeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy19:06
wilee-nileeFrozenFire, Your issue is only really covered by a few on this channel if you are lucky.19:06
NickinizTurkýshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh19:06
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FloodBot1Nickiniz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:06
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Mark__What's nouveau19:06
wilee-nilee!ops | Nickiniz19:06
tsubakithe fall back drivers for nvidia or the FLOSS ones19:06
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_cronus_food, you can install the kernel using apt-get install or apt-get update. then you have to use the same kernel and vmlinuz on the iso's /casper. actually these are the ones that are used when booting from the livecd19:06
tsubakiI'm having issues install the Nvidia ones so Im stuck witht eh fall back19:06
fellayaboythanks guys19:07
FlowRiserMark__, you can't you must go into recovery mode and do it manually19:07
Nickiniz:D19:07
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FloodBot1Nickiniz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:07
_cronus_food, just copy them from /boot of the chrooted environment19:07
Mark__FlowRiser: How do I do that?19:07
gordonjcpFrozenFire: "amd64" is 64-bit regardless of platform19:07
brandon420_cronus_, you have anything todo with ptp?19:07
tsubakiany way I need assistance install the Nvidia drivers I get locked in 1024x768 and unity doesn't start19:07
FlowRiserMark__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode19:07
food_cronus_, You mean installing 3.6.5 using apt-get install?19:08
Linkandzeldaanyone know a quick app to add any app as a startup app?19:08
food_cronus_, Perhaps i need to add deb package link to sources.list?19:09
crom_I have a general random freezes on lucyd 2.6.38-16-generic.....the main errors on dmesg are: ACPI Warning: 32/64 FACS address mismatch in FAD.... EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro19:09
brandon420Linkandzelda, system settings> startup programs19:09
tsubakiLinkandzelda : just add the command or locate the binary and add it19:09
crom_anyone can give me a  hand with that? or point me somewhere19:10
Linkandzeldabrandon420: will the process name do the trick?19:10
tsubakiyes linkandzelda19:10
brandon420Linkandzelda, what are you trying to add? but most likely. Use what ever you would type to start it in the terminal19:10
jahaQuestion: wicd does not try to reconnect to a wired connection once it is lost, for example if you unplug the wired cable, wait a bit and plug it back in, wicd does not restablish an IP... seems like odd behavior, any ideas on how to fix?19:11
wilee-nileeLinkandzelda, The startup applications will not show everything it controls so run this command to add them if you want to tweak it with this e apps as well.  sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop19:11
Linkandzeldabrandon420: just all the apps i want to start, so i'll check it and see if it works with process name lol19:11
_cronus_food, sorry, thought it was 12.10 kernel. my mistake. forget everything i said. i have no idea.19:12
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food_cronus_, pm please?19:12
tsubakiok Nvidia drivers, Unity Will not start19:12
tsubakican I get help?19:13
VLanZi'm having a "low graphic mode" issue when booting 12.10 w/out monitor. Is there any way to get ubuntu to remember the last corret configuration?19:13
dr_willistsubaki: what have you installed so far. whats the chipset19:13
dericmocan someone help me, i am having problems installing a downloaded xampp on my system19:13
tsubakiits a GTX 460se dr_willis19:13
tsubakithe nouveau works but is slugish19:13
tsubakiwhen I install the nvidia ones compiz will not start and other lovely things19:14
OerHeksdericmo xamp is not recommended, use LAMP19:14
dr_willistsubaki: installing them how?19:14
dericmok, but still how do i manage this?19:14
JimmyNeutronVLanZ: I had similar problem and adding this to my /etc/rc.local helped: sleep 1 && service lightdm restart19:14
Mark__How do I get thr boot menu on the Mac?19:15
tsubakidr_willis : I just installed it and its stuck like this19:15
JimmyNeutronBut then I wasn't running a headless system19:15
VLanZJimmyNeutron: ok lets see if it works19:15
tsubakialso when I remove them it goes back to normal19:15
OerHeks!xampp | dericmo19:15
ubottudericmo: We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.19:15
_cronus_food, i would prefer to keep this public, but if you want ok.19:15
dericmoi keep getting the following error: tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.19:15
dr_willistsubaki: you used the nvudia drivers from the repos? or the. run drivers from nvidia.com?19:16
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Mark__I mean how do I get the grub boot menu on Mac os x19:16
tsubakidr_willis : I used the ones from the repos first, then the ones from their website and they're both broken19:16
Mark__To boot into recovery19:17
bcuraboyhi guys.how can i restore my system to a default installation without formatting my system and losing my data?19:17
Mark__Hello anyone know19:17
tsubakibcuraboy : terminal, unity --reset19:17
bcuraboythat's all?19:18
tsubakiand remove all the stuff you installed19:18
bcuraboyhmmm19:18
dr_willisbcuraboy: depends on what defaults you mean also.19:19
dericmothanks ubottu19:19
bcuraboyi mean like a newer installation19:19
bcuraboywithout all the apps i've installed19:19
bcuraboybut non losing my data19:19
dr_willisthats not very clear...19:19
bcuraboyi mean,my files19:19
tsubakiremove the programs, the ppa's and run unity --reset19:20
dericmoso whatz the difference between XAMPP and LAMP19:20
tsubakiok nvidia drivers confirmed for being broken!19:21
tsubakijust lovely19:21
OerHekstsubaki, did you reboot after install nvidia-driver?19:21
tsubakiyes compiz wont start19:21
aquethysHi, I have installed a wubi on my hp pavilion dv6 but now I'm nearing the capacity of space ( downloading a bunch of source code for android development) how do I extend the space wubi has?19:22
tsubakiyou can't19:22
wilee-nileetsubaki, unity --reset is deprecated in 12.1019:22
tsubakiit is?19:22
aquethysSo how can I free up space? Do I have to transfer to a partition?19:23
tsubakiyup19:23
wilee-nileeaquethys, Wubi is for trying out ubuntu not long term use, you can transfer it to a partition, there is a wiki for this.19:23
tsubakiresizing partitions is extremly difficult unless you did them manually19:23
wilee-nileetsubaki, A wubi is not in a partition.19:24
tsubakioh19:24
dericmocan someone help me with the link for downloading LAMP19:24
tsubakiright its installed in ntfs with windows19:24
xanguaaquethys: time to do a real install :)19:25
dericmocan someone help me with the link for downloading LAMP for ubuntu19:26
ThinkT510!lamp | dericmo19:26
ubottudericmo: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)19:26
Elise001Getting strange output when key in at cmd line gcc test02.c19:28
Elise001Trying to compile and run simple hello world type pgm in c.19:28
aquethysOkay, so on the article: It says19:29
aquethys The examples shown below assume the target partition is /dev/sda5 and the swap partition (if required) is /dev/sda6.19:29
Elise001Would appreciate help with this.19:29
aquethysErr how do I make sure of this?19:29
Elise001Please.19:29
KanuckWhipsChainHello All19:29
Elise001test02.c has only a few lines of code.19:29
wilee-nileeaquethys, Post the page you are looking at19:29
dr_willisElise001: pastebin details and erroes.19:29
gordonjcpElise001: pastebin your code and the errors19:30
aquethyshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi19:30
dr_williswe dont have esp... yet.19:30
Elise001elise@elise-laptop:~/Desktop$ gcc test02.c19:30
Elise001test02.c:1:10: error: #include expects "FILENAME" or <FILENAME>19:30
Elise001test02.c: In function ‘main’:19:30
Elise001test02.c:4: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ‘printf’19:30
Elise001test02.c:4: error: stray ‘\342’ in program19:30
Elise001test02.c:4: error: stray ‘\200’ in program19:30
Elise001test02.c:4: error: stray ‘\234’ in program19:30
Elise001test02.c:4: error: ‘This’ undeclared (first use in this function)19:30
sloppyHello everyone.19:30
Elise001test02.c:4: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once19:30
FloodBot1Elise001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:30
Elise001test02.c:4: error: for each function it appears in.)19:30
dr_willisnote the term pastebin  Elise001 ....... as in pastebin.com19:31
Elise001Pastebin?19:31
wilee-nileeaquethys, THe commands is to point the move at the partitions you have built, then you put the number of them in the command.19:31
aquethysI haven't built any partitions. How do I? Lol sorry19:31
aquethysI'm in Ubuntu 12.10 right now btw19:31
[snake]Theres 12.1019:32
[snake]?19:32
aquethysYeah19:32
MaynardMcJizzHey, whats the terminal command to install KDE onto Ubuntu using Sudo?19:32
aquethyshttp://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/19:32
dr_willisElise001: and filenames in linux are case sensitive.. if that may be the issue.19:32
sloppyI GRAB LITTLE ASIAN BOYS AND TAKE THEM TO BACK ALLIES WHERE I MOLEST THEM WITH THE ANCIENT ASIAN PEE PEE TOUCH.19:32
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wilee-nileeaquethys, You have W7?19:32
aquethysYeah19:32
wilee-nilee!ops | sloppy19:33
ubottusloppy: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U!19:33
MaynardMcJizzWhats the package name of KDE for Ubuntu?19:33
MaynardMcJizzLike Kde-Desktop or something?19:33
MaynardMcJizzthe apt-get19:33
dr_williskubuntu-desktop19:33
MaynardMcJizzOhh ok thanks19:33
Robbilieubuntu-desktop i think19:33
MaynardMcJizzI think Ubuntu-desktop is Gnome19:34
dr_willis!kubuntu19:34
ubottuKubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde19:34
WizardYo.19:34
wilee-nileeaquethys, Get a live ubuntu cd and we need to confirm how many primary partitions are on the HD as of now there is a limit of 4 on a standard setup. So get the ISO make a cd or usb and post a screenshot of gparted. YOu will want to use the W7 diak manager to resize it for making partitions with gparted on the live cd.19:35
elbetoIm using xubuntu 12.10, how can i change admin password?19:35
aquethysk I have a live cd19:35
aquethysGparted screenshot coming19:35
aquethysUm how do I access gparted19:36
wilee-nileeelbeto, in the terminal passwd  if you know the one there now19:36
wilee-nileeaquethys, gparted is app on the live cd.19:36
aquethysUm but I can't boot on the live cd because of this error I get when I try to boot from it.19:37
elbetowilee-nilee, i know the password, i want to change it19:37
ton1cP19:37
aquethysIt keeps saying after I hit continue to install alongside windows "Remove all installation media and press enter"19:37
aquethysAnd then it reboots into windows 7.19:37
wilee-nileeaquethys, YOU know the boot from menu outside of the bios?19:37
aquethysWhat do you mean? I accessed bios and set boot from CD as #1 priority..19:37
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wilee-nileeelbeto, passwd in the terminal will allow you to change the user password.19:38
tsubaki-dsoftware center giving me these weird artifacts https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25199668/Screenshot%20from%202012-11-04%2015%3A33%3A56.png19:38
Elise001For s some reason, when I try to pastebin my source c pgm, looks like it is going to this channel. Then it does not.19:38
wilee-nileeaquethys, There is another boot from menu not in the bios, it is reached with key prompts like you would get to the bios, but different, mine is f12 yours may be different.19:38
elbetothanks!19:39
wilee-nileeElise001, YOU have to post the url19:39
tsubaki-dok so I got this bug with my system, any one know a work around? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/106823619:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1068341 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1068236 No way to specify correct dependencies for dkms packages" [Wishlist,Confirmed]19:39
dsprcwilee-nilee, aquethys: f9-12 are usually the magic bullets19:40
Elise001http://paste.ubuntu.com/1332932/19:40
wilee-nileedsprc, sometimes esc could be anything. ;)19:40
dsprcsaw a few odd (and old) award bios setups that had ctrl as the eject button19:41
aquethysWilee what do you need from me to be able to do this? I'm not sure. :|19:41
wilee-nileeaquethys, If you look on the web with your computer model or manufacturer with boot fro menu you may find the keys needed, or post the computer here we may know.19:42
trismtsubaki-d: install the linux headers for your kernel: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r);19:42
wilee-nileefrom*19:42
tsubaki-dthanks trism19:42
aquethysHP Pavilion dv6-7043cl. Anyone know how to get into boot from menu not in BIOS?19:42
tsubaki-ddo I just install the drivers after that?19:42
dr_willisElise001: what text editor did you use to type in the code?19:42
trismtsubaki-d: if you already selected the drivers, they should automatically build when installing the headers, so you shouldn't have to do anything but reboot19:43
tsubaki-dwell im running nouveau right now19:43
trismtsubaki-d: check: dkms status; after installing though to verified that their status is "installed"19:43
JimmyNeutronaquethys: Are you asking how to access the boot menu?  F9 for my dv6-700019:43
aquethysokay19:44
aquethysWilee19:44
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aquethyswhat do you need19:44
aquethysfrom that menu19:44
tsubaki-dtrism : can I install the drivers after I install the headers?19:44
FloodBot1aquethys: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:44
aquethysOops >_>19:44
dsprcaquethys: try f12. then select the device you wish to boot from19:44
Elise001http://paste.ubuntu.com/1332958/19:44
trismtsubaki-d: yes19:44
tsubaki-dok lets hope this works19:45
wilee-nileeaquethys, Your question makes no sense, I am trying to get you to a menu that looks a lot like the bios choice but it is a direct boot in.19:45
aquethysyes if I get into the menu what should I do?19:45
Elise001That was the output when I tried to use gcc to compile my simple c program. Did I pastebin correctly?19:45
dsprcaquethys: we have no way of knowing what the exact names of those devices will be.19:45
wilee-nileeaquethys, choose the option accordingly if a cd choose cd if a usb choose usb19:45
aquethysokay19:45
VlanZis there any way i can view the current automatic Xorg configuration?19:46
dr_willisElise001: what text editor did you use to type in the code?... and you did install the 'build-essentials' package?19:46
trismElise001: are you maybe using strange unicode symbols in the #include line?19:46
dr_willis!b-e19:46
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)19:46
dr_willistrism: or he used notepad.exe and copied the file from windows19:47
wilee-nileeaquethys, Not sure of the error you have gotten from the bios change, but we assume here you have checked the ISO and or cd's md5sum and it was burnt if a cd as an image at the slowest speed. In other words that the boot cd or usb is good to go.19:47
trismdr_willis: indeed could be19:47
Elise001dr_willis: I installed that package.19:47
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ronhi everyone. when I try to apt-get install something, I get this error message: "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list". However, when I look at /etc/apt/sources.list, the list seems fine. any ideas?19:48
Elise001I think I used Open office.19:48
dr_willisElise001: use a text editor like  gedit or geany19:49
trismdr_willis: though \342 \200 \234 is octal for “19:49
dsprcron: you are trying to download source code packages. if you want source code with apt you have to enable a source repo19:49
dr_willisgeany is good.. i reccomend it.. Elise00119:49
s0uphey -- just took some updates on 12.0.4 and now unity greeter runs out of mem, dies, and then restarts19:50
dsprcron: what packages are you trying to install and can you pastebin your sources.list?19:50
s0upcant get past the login page.. can F1 into command line but it'll still go back to the greeter after a few seconds19:50
Elise001I have installed geany. But not sure how to use it.19:50
roychriHello, I just installed on a old computer and I get connectivity issues. I can connect with SSH but it takes about 10 seconds before asking for password.  HTTP works fine, really fast.  When I run tracert (win7) from my desktop to the server, I get "Request timed out" on all hop.  Same when I run traceroute from the linux to my desktop, I get request timed out on all hop.  I do not know where to start debugging this :(19:50
rondsprc: sure, give me a sec to do a little test first.19:50
tsubakitrism : I think its working now, thanks19:50
trismtsubaki: excellent19:50
dr_willisElise001: its a text editor.... type.. save...19:50
dr_willisthen use the shell to compile and run if you want...19:51
paco_Hi I do not have sound for music of for stream video but for for some other applications I do have... does any one have any idea what could it be???19:52
ironhalikCan I tell GRUB to reboot automatically choose certain menu antry on reboot? Let's say I want to reboot into windows on next boot, with simple command19:53
dr_willispaco_: what video streams19:53
danielboston26does anyone know how to boot into recovery mode on the mac?19:53
trisms0up: anything funny in /var/log/x-?-greeter.log ?19:53
paco_dr_willis, youtube19:53
s0uplemme check trism19:53
wilee-nileeironhalik, You can but it is not an easy change at your whim basically.19:53
danielboston26if i press esc or shift it doesn't work19:53
aquethysokay so I got to the other boot menu by spamming f9 button. Now I'm booted up and "Trying Ubuntu" what shoudl I do now? gparted?19:53
throwed54Hello, is wilee-nilee around19:54
rondsprc: thanks, I added the source repos and it works fine now.19:54
ironhalikwilee-nilee: some scripting and changing /etc/default/grub?19:54
trisms0up: sorry that is /var/log/lightdm/x-?-greeter.log19:54
Elise001http://paste.ubuntu.com/1332983/         from Elise19:54
s0uptrism i do not see a greeter logs19:54
s0upoh k19:54
paco_dr_willis, I also have sound some apps but no for anything related to music or video...also dvds play with no sound19:54
wilee-nileeaquethys, Yeah take a screenshot of gparted looking at the HD with prtsc and imagebin it19:54
s0uplol hard to do stuff fast wtih cpu at 100%19:54
aquethyshttp://i.imgur.com/xgXyl.png19:54
dsprcron: congrats! \o/19:54
trismElise001: you have curly quotes on the first line19:54
wilee-nilee!imagebin | aquethys19:54
ubottuaquethys: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.19:54
aquethysGot it wilee19:54
trismElise001: and it should be #include <stdio.h> anyway19:55
dr_willisironhalik: its doable from what ive read of the grub docs. theres a "saved" option and cli tools to set the default19:55
danielboston26does anyone know????19:55
throwed54wilee-nilee: had a hell of time on Oct 31st, GRUG Rescue showed up when I tried booting my computer. used boot-repair and everythings ok now, just have a 500 gig parition in Windows now, but I'm ok with that.19:55
ironhalikI guess I'll stick with manual mode, for now :>19:55
gordonjcpElise001: so what happens when you compile it?19:55
trismElise001: you need to fix the curly quotes on the printf line too19:55
danielboston26hello/?19:55
paco_dr_willis, do you think is any misconfiguration on the sound??19:55
tsubakiok I got 2 monitors up, how do I configure their behavior, I hate it when I maximise it on one display and it jumps to another19:55
dr_willistrism:   ;-)19:55
OerHeksdanielboston26, that info should be in the mac pages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages19:55
bcuraboyhow can i get the xscrrensaver collection?19:56
bcuraboy*xscreensaver19:56
s0upnothing too weird trism19:56
s0upi did some updates then after never seeing it, the accessibility icon came back19:57
dr_willistsubaki: ive seen some badly written apps do that. and others dont. i use  twinview for my nvudia options.19:57
s0upand some colors on apps like terminal were all white19:57
danielboston26OerHeks: that site doesn't have 12.1019:57
danielboston26OerHeks: thats the version im using19:57
wilee-nileeironhalik, I forget I messed with it and found it really to be a hassle, and not worth it to me. You can change the default easily, but getting one to run without changing it when you want is a bit different, here is the latest grub manual link. https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html19:57
OerHeksdanielboston26, 12.10 or 12.04 , same info19:57
trisms0up: how about lightdm.log ? is unity-greeter crashing?19:57
aquethyswilee-nilee http://i.imgur.com/xgXyl.png19:57
paco_anyone can help me with sound configuration??19:58
s0upyeah it runs out of mem, kernel kills it19:58
trisms0up: dmesg might also tell you if it is19:58
s0upand then it gets started again19:58
danielboston26latest it has is 11.10 OerHeks19:58
tsubakidr_willis : I have it on twin view, I think I fixed it. also it was firefox doing it but its working I think now19:58
keithamusI have an Ubuntu install which is a VM on top of my Proxmox Debian server. I'm using NFS to share some storage to the Ubuntu client (ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Server Edition). I cannot seem to access the NFS directory even though I can see it is mounted. I try to `ls` and it hangs.19:58
codepoetmy grub entry is messed up and hence Windows is not booting. Can anyone please help out?19:58
dr_willistsubaki: i had ff do it. but not chromeium-browser19:58
s0uplightdm.log just shows sessions starting etc tris19:59
throwed54codepoet: run boot-repair in Ubuntu19:59
s0uptrism*19:59
s0upnothing too weird19:59
VLanXJimmyNeutron: sorry it didnt work.. :(  is there a way to configure manually xorg.conf ?19:59
danielboston26so no one knows?19:59
OerHeksdanielboston26, so did you try it? the info is still the same19:59
throwed54codepoet: had the same problem as you19:59
tsubakidr_willis : trivial question, how do I set diffrent wallpapers on my displays?19:59
trisms0up: that is odd, what were you doing before it started?19:59
paco_thanks all19:59
wyclifI have a PC that I want to install Ubuntu on that has a SCSI card (an Adaptec 29160). The CDROM is device #3. I've burned an Ubuntu ISO and I can't get the install media to boot. I've changed the boot order in the BIOS to "SCSI" and in the SCSI BIOS edited the boot order to boot from device #3 (the CDROM). Yet, I still cannot get the ISO to boot from the CDROM. Any ideas?19:59
s0upshows out of memory kill process X (unity-greeter) score 942 or scrifice child19:59
codepoetthrowed54 do I need to install it?19:59
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throwed54codepoet: yes20:00
throwed54codepoet: google boot-repair20:00
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dagonousbah gnome 3 sux20:00
dr_willistsubaki: use a single wallpaper file you custome make is how i do it20:00
danielboston26OerHeks: doesn't say anything about recovery20:00
codepoet throwed54 will try.20:00
throwed54ill get you the link20:00
wilee-nileeaquethys, So you have 4 primary partitions you have to lose one to do a Install of ubuntu in a extended. THe easiest to lose and resize would be the recovery. can you run a image of the windows to a external HD so you can remove the recovery=sda3.  Another otion is mocing the HP tools to the extended by saving it off the disc then reloading it.20:00
keithamusWhen I "strace ls /the/dir", the last line of output is `stat("/the/dir"` and it hangs there. Anyone have any idea on how to fix this?20:00
tsubakidr_willis I geuss il do that20:00
JimmyNeutronVLanX: Not sure.  Haven't research that far into it.  I encounter the same error as you on my laptop that was equip w/ an Intel HD 4000 + nVidia GT630M.  I resolved it by using bumblebee.20:00
throwed54https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair20:00
throwed54codepoet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair20:00
throwed54sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update20:00
throwed54sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair20:01
LinkandzeldaI'm really annoyed at the unity launcher now :(20:01
keithamusOddly I have a separate ubuntu VM, same installation ISO, 12.04.1 LTS Server, which works fine20:01
aquethysDo I have to run an image of windows to external HD or can I just go ahead and remove recovery?20:01
wilee-nileeaquethys,Hope that makes sense inspite of the misspells20:01
codepoetthrowed54: installing now20:01
sheikhhey guys. I have a question. You know how in Ubuntu using a physical mouse, the middle click will auto paste highlighted text. How do I replicate the same on my touch pad, 3 fingers touch brings this window for resizing instead of middle clikc20:01
throwed54congrats20:01
danielboston26is FlowRiser still here?20:02
wilee-nileeaquethys, You want to be able to reload windows no matter what, if you have a OEM reinstall set you could remove it.20:02
FlowRiserdanielboston26, yes i am20:02
codepoetthrowed54: did you have this problem after you updated Ubuntu?20:02
aquethysSo if I remove recovery partition without putting windows image on external HD will I be able to load windows no matter what?20:02
wyclifIOW to get a SCSI CDROM to boot the installation media, do I need to change the boot order in the regular system BIOS or in the SCSI BIOS?20:02
gordonjcpwyclif: both probably20:02
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wilee-nileeaquethys, We are really backup orientated here it will save you alot of problems.20:02
gordonjcpwyclif: where on earth are you getting a SCSI CDROM from?20:03
danielboston26FlowRiser: i cannot boot into recovery on my mac or i can't figure out how to do it is there another way to fix my problem with the nvida driver?20:03
aquethysI don't have an external HD though :| Is it possible for us to just try deleting recovery parttion?20:03
wyclifgordonjcp this PC has a SCSI card with a Seagate SCSI HDD and a SCSI CDROM on the bus20:03
codepoetthrowed54: did you have this problem after you updated Ubuntu? I updated mine which messed up my windows grub entry20:03
wilee-nileeaquethys, If you do not have a way of reinstalling windows and you want to have windows I cannot help you.20:03
FlowRiserdanielboston26, yeah, use a livecd, but i don't know the steps from there on :-?20:04
trisms0up: you don't have a bunch of users in /etc/passwd do you? (it's an older accountservice bug)20:04
s0upi shouldn't trism20:04
aquethysokay that's good20:04
wyclifgordonjcp: it's a Plextor SCSI CDROM drive20:04
s0upthis laptop is a few weeks old20:04
aquethysdeleting recovery partition now.20:04
s0upconfusing the hell out of me though.. once i boot i'm at like 100% cpu/mem20:04
trisms0up: would you mind pastebin lightdm.log and the greeter log (if there is anything in there)? you might also want to: sudo stop lightdm; so it calms down for the moment20:05
wilee-nileeaquethys, Most if not all manufacturers will sell you a OEM disc set for reinstalling, that is the first thing I get when buying a computers with windows myself, it was only 30$ last time I did this.20:05
Linkandzeldaguys I just made a huge mistake. how do I manually edit the compizconfig values? I've made the compizconfig window 100% transparent...20:05
codepoet\msg  throwed54 there?20:05
s0upand btw sorry this is 12.1020:05
wyclifgordonjcp: so, change the boot order in BIOS to CDROM and the SCSI BIOS to boot CDROM first? I think I tried that...20:05
s0upnot 12.0.420:06
aquethysdon't have one :( so deleting the recovery and we'll see20:06
gordonjcpwyclif: yup20:06
FlowRiserdanielboston26, i found a way to do it: http://www.tuxation.com/chrooting-into-a-linux-environment.html20:06
aquethysI can live w/o windows20:06
aquethysjust preference20:06
ElixirVitaeSo, it was fine after I updated nvidia drivers when I first installed ubuntu, but, now, it again shows blue-ish videos in firefox. Why is that happening, as I didn't change anything that would effect it or updated driver?20:06
s0upyeah trism stopping lightdm made the lag stop20:07
aquethys@wilee-nilee how long does it take to delete this partition? o.020:08
s0upi cant really paste you easily trism since i'm stuck in cli here but20:08
wilee-nileeaquethys, So lets say you decide to sell your computer, is it more valuable and easier to sell with a windows system on  it. I think you are getting your cart in front of your horse here.  With a little planning and backing up you can cover your bootie for any instance..20:08
wyclifgordonjcp: see, logically I thought that the BIOS has to boot "SCSI" first to go through the card, then on the SCSI bus it boots the CDROM first which is set from the SCSI BIOS???20:08
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s0upit just shows a bunch of started session, sending signal 15 to process X.. process exited with return value 0.. then it stops20:08
dsprcs0up: i am on a console too. install gnu screen and you can copy/paste stuff20:08
s0up(lightdm.log)20:08
trisms0up: if you have network access you could use pastebinit (after installing it)20:09
wyclifgordonjcp: but that doesn't work, so obv. I am doing it wrong20:09
s0upim not a hax0r and i dont use irrsi lol20:09
aquethysActually this computer is just a temp computer for me...20:09
s0upsec20:09
aquethysDon't need to resell or anything20:09
s0upill just installl sshd here and get it from my main box20:09
VLanXcan i check in 12.10 if i'm running in 3D or 2D unity?20:09
dr_willis12.10 has no unity 2d20:09
aquethys@wilee-nilee: Is this done? http://i.imgur.com/PINJ0.png20:10
VLanXdr_willis: i'm asking that because i don't see the smooth fading that i had in 12.04 anymore when i iconize a window20:10
aquethysIt still says pending20:10
aquethysoh nvm20:11
aquethysneeded to click the checkmark20:11
s0uptrism: https://paste.tinyw.in/index.php/view/9659522120:11
s0upthat is lightdm.log20:11
dr_willisVLanX: what video chipset?20:11
aquethysokay20:11
aquethyshttp://i.imgur.com/2mnZ9.png20:11
aquethys@wilee-nilee20:11
s0uphttps://paste.tinyw.in/index.php/view/31341920 this is dmesg20:12
wilee-nileeaquethys, You can remove the recovery with gparted it will instantly be gone. You would then reboot to W7 to shrink the C partition with its disk manager, resize it leaving a unallocated space large enough for the ubuntu install.  Reboot it to let it run its auto chksk, make sure it is running fine, then boot the ubuntu disc and choose the install alongside windows it will bukid the partitons for it.20:12
wilee-nileebuild*20:12
aquethysokay cool20:12
VLanXdr_willis: HD4000 integrated graphics20:12
aquethysHow much should I shrink by20:12
aquethys@wilee20:12
kefobCan anyone tell me how long the Copying Installation files should take?  It has been going for at least an hour now20:13
d0min8r3Hello?20:13
wilee-nileeaquethys, Ah I forgot the wubi move, If you want to move the wubi, you would have to buils the partitions in gparted the ubuntu and the swap inside a extended partition then do the wubi transfer20:14
aquethysso how would I do this20:14
compdockefob, about 10 15 mins20:14
compdoc10-1520:14
aquethysmake a new partition?20:14
kefobso what do you think is the problem with it?20:14
d0min8r3Anyone know how to change to Ubuntu Netbook Remix Desktop On Ubuntu 12.1020:14
compdockefob, might just be a glitch. you having it format a drive? just try again20:15
wilee-nileeaquethys, First question how big you need to decide how big ubuntu has to be then resize the windows accordingly.20:15
xangua!une | d0min8r320:15
ubottud0min8r3: Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs.20:15
aquethys200GB20:15
aquethysshould be good20:15
mlliehello20:15
aquethysmaybe 250. Cuz I have 1TB on this machine20:16
d0min8r3Yeah, but there is a way to add startup commands or something to change the style20:16
kefobThis is my second attempt.  Same thing happened before.  I am installing next to a Win 7 installation, had 70GB partition set aside for Ubuntu20:16
kefobI am doing the installation inside of a live disc20:16
wilee-nileeaquethys, second question if you get this all to the point of having the unallocated after removing the sda3 and resizing windows with its partitioner you will use gparted on the live cd to build the extended to fill that unallocated then a ext4 logical and a swap inside the extended, I can or someone will help you there. ;)20:17
mllieI've just made an upgrade from 8.x to 10.x LTS and now the screen is just black after the text that loads the kernel after grub has disappeared. How do I do to debug this?20:17
d0min8r3So, no one knows?20:18
bobo37773d0min8r3: What is your question?20:18
aquethyserr How do I use gparted to build a partition to fill the unallocated so I can install?20:18
trisms0up: hmm, this is the point I'd love to fire up a gdb session and see what unity-greeter is doing, if you were to install lightdm-gtk-greeter and switch to that, does the greeter come up?20:18
wilee-nileemllie, Do you know how to insert nomodeset in the kernel at grub, to get a low graphics boot.20:18
aquethysI notice /dev/sda2 has 900GB. How do I transfer some of that to Ubuntu?20:18
d0min8r3I can't figure out how to change the style to UNR20:18
bobo37773aquethys: The installer should already be able to install into unallocated space20:18
mlliewilee-nilee: no?20:19
bobo37773d0min8r3: Style of what?20:19
s0upwhat do you mean by fire gdb session and see what the greeter is doing?20:19
wilee-nilee!noimodeset | mllie20:19
d0min8r3Desktop20:19
s0up(i'm more of a linux USER than an admin)20:19
wilee-nilee!nomodeset |mll20:19
ubottumll: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:19
wilee-nileemllie,  ^^^20:19
RyanLWilliamsHi, may I change to GRUB boot loader to a custom one20:19
Chotaz`let's say I messed up really bad with the purge command, and I don't even have a terminal, how can I backup some files before freshinstalling?20:20
aquethysokay let me give this a try20:20
trisms0up: it's okay, don't worry about it, try installing lightdm-gtk-greeter and set greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and start lightdm20:20
wilee-nileeaquethys, I have the feeling here you are lost am I right?20:20
aquethysSort of20:20
EnderMBHi all. I'm running 12.10 on my dell studio xps 8100 and the fan doesn't seem to be working. I've tried running acpi and I get "no support for device type power_supply". It seem to work fine on Windows 7 though. Any ideas on what I should do next?20:20
s0upthx for the help btw trism this has been killing me for a few hours lol20:20
bobo37773d0min8r3: So you want the window manager from the ubuntu netbook remix? Is that it?20:20
aquethysMy /dev/sda2 has 900GB space..20:20
aquethysHow do I reduce that20:20
zenx<aquethys> use gparted to resize20:21
trisms0up: no problem, it is a curious issue, I'm wondering if logging into the ubuntu session will give you the same sort of issues even without unity-greeter20:21
d0min8r3bobo37773: I wanted Netbook remix alone but yeah since it doesn't exist anymore I'll have to go with the desktop layout20:21
wilee-nileeaquethys, The problem I think is you are trying to understand to much this is rather easy if you know what you are doing, but trying to understand it and remember it all, and include additional info like moving stuff from windows is a bit of a strech for anyone. ;)20:21
bobo37773d0min8r3: Does this help at all? --> http://www.starkeith.net/coredump/2011/05/02/bringing-back-the-classic-netbook-remix-interface-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/20:21
phirexI dont mind messing with terminal a little bit, but i prefer not to, does anyone know a upnp media server that is easy to use? or anyone can guide me with MediaTomb? I added my folder "Downloads" and it doesnt show the sub-directories of it....20:21
s0upyeah trism20:22
s0upback in the laptop lol20:22
gordonjcpphirex: mediatomb is fiddly as hell to get going20:22
RLW980Hi, may I change to GRUB boot loader to a custom one20:22
s0upthat was stupid20:22
s0upjust decided to self destruct20:22
d0min8r3Yes, thank you.20:22
qwebirc21119Hello.  Is it possible to create a bootable Ubuntu 12.10 LiveUSB using the 'dd' command (assuming /dev/sdb is the USB device)?:    dd  if=/path/to/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso  of=/dev/sdb20:22
gordonjcpphirex: I use minidlna, but you will need to use the terminal a little to get it set up20:22
aquethysUgh brb20:22
gordonjcpphirex: once it's going it's pretty much rock solid20:22
Chotaz`let's say I messed up really bad with the purge command, and I don't even have a terminal, how can I backup some files before freshinstalling?20:23
trisms0up: so you managed to log in with lightdm-gtk-greeter? or not?20:23
phirexgordonjcp: does it refresh the directories automatically?20:23
s0upyessir20:23
gordonjcpChotaz`: just boot the live image20:23
gordonjcpphirex: yes, mostly20:23
s0uplogged in successful, in the comp w/ a session running20:23
gordonjcpphirex: I've managed to catch it out20:23
wilee-nileeaquethys, As far as resizing the /dev/sda2 as I suggeted windows has a app called the disk manager it is a partitioner, you would use it in the live running windows to resize it.20:23
siMa?20:23
dr_willisqwebirc21119: that should work20:23
trisms0up: system seem okay? nothing using a ton of mem or cpu?20:23
kefobDid anyone have any suggestions for my problem :)20:23
twirmChotaz`: what did you purge?20:23
Chotaz`twikz, wine*20:23
phirexgordonjcp: catch it out?20:23
s0uptop says my computer is doing nothing and being lazy20:23
trisms0up: good to hear, at least it seems to be a specific bug in unity-greeter20:24
Chotaz`twikz, got home really high yesterday and wrote purge instead of remove somehow20:24
gordonjcpphirex: very occasionally when I drop a bunch of stuff into a directory under circumstances I can never quite replicate, it doesn't update properly20:24
* s0up knows better than to just take updates20:24
s0upbut i was feeling dangerous20:24
gordonjcpphirex: usually restarting it cures the problem, and if that doesn't I just delete its database and let it re-index the content20:24
trisms0up: can you pastebin the updates you did today, yesterday from /var/log/apt/history.log ?20:24
s0upsure20:24
wilee-nileeaquethys, All you have to do is remove the sda3 with gparted, then boot to windows and resize the sda2 leaving a space the size you want ubuntu to be in, including a consideration of the size of the swap there as well.20:25
phirexgordonjcp: i'm really surprised theres no easy to use program with a gui :/20:25
twirmChotaz`: can you ctrl+alt+f1 into another terminal?20:25
gordonjcpphirex: it seems that if I add files to it when my PS3 is actively streaming stuff, it doesn't update properly20:25
gordonjcpphirex: it's a server20:25
An_Ony_MooseIs there a .pc file for glut? I can't seem to find one.20:25
gordonjcpphirex: why would a server have a GUI?20:25
EnderMBI've Googled the problem, cleaned out dust from my machine and checked the BIOS settings. Since it works fine with Windows I assume it's a bug or something?20:25
phirexgordonjcp: to set it up...20:25
s0uptrism: https://paste.tinyw.in/index.php/view/5057880520:25
twirmChotaz`: if you can get there you can try running apt-get install ubuntu-desktop20:25
gordonjcpphirex: I don't understand20:25
EnderMBIt also works fine from the live CD so I can't see why the fans aren't turning on20:25
gordonjcphow would you even see the GUI?20:25
s0upInstall: lightdm-gtk-greeter:amd64 (1.3.1-0ubuntu1) is probably the offending binary20:26
Chotaz`twirm, sorry I was writting to the wrong person, thanks I wasn't even remembering that20:26
phirexgordonjcp: im talking about setting up which folders the server would share20:26
gordonjcpphirex: oh, you just list those in the config file20:26
Chotaz`twirm, is there anything like an history for packages removed where I could just undo this mess?20:26
phirexgordonjcp: so what else should be tweaked before its ready to go?20:26
gordonjcpuh, not a lot20:26
mlliewilee-nilee: still same problem20:27
phirexgordonjcp: ok anyway i'll try it now! thanks :)20:27
danielboston26So i installed the nividia driver and now i no longer get a desktop how do i fix this20:27
twirmChotaz`: I've never really run into something like that, but ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that holds most of the core Desktop experience20:27
gordonjcpphirex: I literally just changed the line that says media_dir=/whatever to point to where I put video20:27
zenx<EnderMB> does the pc freeze or reboot due to temperature?20:28
mlliewilee-nilee: I get this error just before the screen goes black I think: http://askubuntu.com/questions/182371/12-04-1-error-after-upgrade20:28
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raphaHi!20:28
danielboston26anyone know the fix?20:28
Chotaz`twikz, I've sure lost that, every windows looks win95 now, and every application I close disappears(deluge, chrome, terminal, vlc, all gone now)20:28
qwebirc21119dr_willis:   The reason I asked is because I'm not seeing the use of 'dd' documented at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick .  So, I thought Ubuntu Live ISO's are not designed to be dd'd onto USB (also, as explained in some answers here:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/25476/how-to-make-a-usb-drive-bootable-after-live-image-is-copied-into-it-using-dd-c  http://askubuntu.com/questions/116942/any-way-to-manu20:28
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semitonesHello. I checked the md5sum for my .iso, but my usb keeps having errors. Is there any way of doing an fsck on a usb drive?20:28
trisms0up: oh hmm, I see the new glib/gtk from the gnome ppa20:28
raphaI installed Gnome 3 but it doesn't work because of the binary ATI drivers and now Unity is broken, too. How do I revert back to Unity?20:28
trisms0up: that would be my first guess20:28
s0upahh20:28
danielboston26hello??20:29
s0upmaybe i'll go back to the old greeter after a few updates :P20:29
wilee-nileerapha, What release are you running?20:29
dr_willisqwebirc21119: befor 11.04 that was true i think20:29
s0upare you an ubuntu contributor or something trism?20:29
s0upthanks for the help20:29
trisms0up: just a user20:29
Chotaz`twirm, I've sure lost that, every windows looks win95 now, and every application I close disappears(deluge, chrome, terminal, vlc, all gone now)20:29
dr_willisqwebirc21119: dd does work with 12.04+20:29
kefobGuess I will ask again lol.  I am doing an installation of Ubuntu next to an existing Win7.  I am in the live environment, second installation attempt, and it is stuck at copying installations logs for over an hour.  Any Ideas?20:29
EnderMBHi all. I'm running 12.10 on my dell studio xps 8100 and the fan doesn't seem to be working. I've tried running acpi and I get "no support for device type power_supply". It seem to work fine on Windows 7 though. Any ideas on what I should do next?20:30
twirmChotaz`: haha, that'll happen. Do you remember what you purged?20:30
Chotaz`twikz, all the webpages open in gedit, thing is a reall mess20:30
twirmChotaz`: yeah, sounds like you broke some desktop dependency with purge20:30
qwebirc21119dr_willis:  I see.  So, what was changed starting with 12.04+ to make the Live ISO capable of being dd'd onto USB?20:30
zenx<EnderMB> maybe the cpu isnt hot enough to activate the fan/20:31
twirmChotaz`: it sounds like you lost mostly GTK packages. Were you able to get into another terminal via CTRL+ALT+F1?20:31
qwebirc21119dr_willis:  I see.  So, what was changed starting with 12.04+ to make the Live ISO capable of being dd'd onto USB?20:31
s0upwell if you ever need hosting trism feel free to PM me anytime on freenode, we give free bandwidth/hosting to OSS contributors :)20:31
Chotaz`twirm, i did "sudo apt-get purge wine*" and I only noticed I'd done crap when I saw terminal output "Removing google-chrome-stable"20:31
ThinkT510qwebirc21119: it started from 11.10 and is called hybrid iso20:31
semitonesWhat's the easiest way to fsck a usb drive?20:31
dr_willisqwebirc21119: hybrid iso format i beluve is the techy term.20:31
zenxrapha> try reinstalling the fglrx packages20:31
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EnderMBSorry to be a nuisance, but anyone have any idea why my fan isn't working?20:31
wilee-nilee!fsck20:32
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot20:32
semitonescan gparted do fsck?20:32
twirmChotaz`: you should definitely give installing ubuntu-desktop a shot20:32
wilee-nileesemitones, See the bots message20:32
ThinkT510semitones: yes20:32
semitonesThinkT510: thanks :)20:32
zenxEnderMB, I don't see wh it isn't working, i dont even think there is a driver for the fan. It is probably hardware controlled20:32
Chotaz`i'll try reinstalling ubuntu desktop, if that doesn't solve most issues ima go with a fresh install that'll probably be fast20:32
Chotaz`er20:32
OnlyMAJHi .i use ubuntu 12.4.i want to set password for thunderbird for every runnuing . soloution ?20:32
zenxdoes the cpu get hot or pc freeze?20:32
d0min8r3It's not working D:20:33
twirmChotaz`: werd, good luck man. I hope you've learned your lesson about package managing while high ;P20:33
EnderMBzenx: The back of the machine gets pretty hot and it's very quiet, even when the cpu is high. Also, when I try to run acpi I get the message "no support for device type power_supply"20:33
crackerjackz!kde20:33
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.20:33
d0min8r3Can someone help me?20:34
twirmd0min8r3: what's up?20:34
Chotaz`twirm,  all I wanted was this crappy japanese game working, windows binaries so I needed a specific wine version for it xD20:34
EnderMBPerhaps I'm just being silly and Ubuntu is just quiet?20:34
OnlyMAJHi .i use ubuntu 12.4.i want to set password for thunderbird to ask it when i run thunderbird . soloution ?20:34
crackerjackzso to install kde i just type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?20:34
zenx<EnderMB> I would try the latest kernel20:34
d0min8r3I can't get the Netbook Remix20:34
twirmChotaz`: did you grab Crossover while it was free this week?20:34
semitonesIs there a way to do a file check on a Boot USB before I reboot?20:34
OerHeksd0min8r3, netbook remix is no more, just use the ubuntu iso.20:34
Chotaz`twirm, had no idea :(20:34
bekksd0min8r3: There is no netbook remix anymore.20:34
crackerjackzam i reading that right?20:34
d0min8r3I went to http://www.starkeith.net/coredump/2011/05/02/bringing-back-the-classic-netbook-remix-interface-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/  And when I install them it says they aren't found20:35
Chotaz`twikz, does it work that good anyways?20:35
wyclifstill can't boot install ISO20:35
mlliewilee-nilee: any idea?20:35
wilee-nileesemitones, try man fsck in the terminal for info20:35
d0min8r3I know it doesn't come seperate, but there is a way to change the theme or whatever to get it.20:35
bekksd0min8r3: And 11.04 is not supported anymore, officially.20:35
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | mllie20:36
ubottumllie: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:36
twirmChotaz`: for newer windows apps, (Skyrim, MS Office 2010) it is definitely worth it20:36
semitoneswilee-nilee: you know how when you boot ubuntu from USB, and you can check the install file integrity? Is there a way to do that without rebooting?20:36
crackerjackzits installing... ty to who ever made ubottu20:36
twirmChotaz`: if the software is from before 2005, you're better off with stock WINE20:36
mlliewilee-nilee: yes, didn't you see my message above? I tried that one without any success20:36
wilee-nileemllie, The link in the ots message will tell you how to insert the nomodeset in the kernel at boot.20:36
wilee-nileebots*20:36
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Chotaz`twirm, still all the games that I used to play one wine 1.2.2 dont work on the newer versions of wine20:36
semitonesMan... crossover was free... ? man20:36
d0min8r3So there is no possible way to make Ubuntu look like the netbook remix?20:37
zenxEnderMB, that's a desktop pc right? Honestly I wouldn't worry as long as the pc doesnt crash or if you can monitor temps to see. But the problem is probably due to dell custom hardware. Download the latest kernel and try it20:37
mlliewilee-nilee: still same problem. I get this error just before the screen goes black I think: http://askubuntu.com/questions/182371/12-04-1-error-after-upgrade20:37
danielboston26how do i boot into the command line on 12.10?20:37
ThinkT510!text | danielboston2620:37
Chotaz`danielboston26, ctrl+alt+f120:37
ubottudanielboston26: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode20:37
twirmsemitones: would you prefer a 64bit or 32bit?20:37
d0min8r3press CTRL+ALT+F220:38
EnderMBzenx: Okay, I'll download the latest kernel. Thanks for the help!20:38
twirmChotaz`: do you know if you're running 64/32?20:38
d0min8r3press CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back20:38
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wilee-nileemllie, Is that your actual post>20:38
Chotaz`twirm 64bits20:38
Sean21_Hello20:38
foodCan anyone help me with error "initramfs mount mounting aufs root failed No such device" please?20:38
mlliewilee-nilee: no, but same error message20:38
crackerjackztwirm: that all depends on the arcitechture of your CPU and the amount of memory in your computer, what kind of processor do you have and how much RAM do you have installed?20:38
d0min8r3Well, I'm going to go waste some time looking for a solution on the web.20:39
Sean21_Can anyone with me, I cant get dual boot to work with windows 720:39
crackerjackzSean21_: define not working20:39
Sean21_ok20:39
wilee-nileemllie, I would go to the ubuntu forums and start a thread as well, the channel may or may not be your best help, I can't really help here myself, I thought this was just a black screen.20:39
crackerjackzwhat happens when you turn your computer on? do you get a grub menu?20:40
raphazenx: did that, doesn't help. the desktop and nautilus show up, but unity itself won't start.20:40
Sean21_I came here the other night and I was told that I didnt install ubuntu correctly20:40
mlliewilee-nilee: well, how do I get into command line when booting then?20:40
wilee-nileeSean21_, Give us the problem in the form of a question.20:40
wyclifd0min8r3: yup20:40
Sean21_So someone walked me through the installation, aftr it finsihed installing, computer boots up right into windows 720:40
twirmmsg Chotaz` would you like crossover?20:40
zenx<rapha> change to unity 2d, and run that additional driver installer20:40
d0min8r3?20:40
zenx<rapha>if that doesn't work you can try and remove every fglrx* packages, and try installing a driver from amd website, it must work then or the problem is something else than the drivers20:41
zenxyou can choose unity2d at the login screen20:41
crackerjackzSean21_: i know what you did.. you installed windows last didn't you? if you want to dual boot then generally you'd install windows first and linux 2nd20:41
wilee-nileemllie, You can get to a command line from the recovery kernel in the grub menu, hold down the shift key at boot if grub is not showing, I believe there is a mount needed here I think the hD is read only in the recovery to begin with these days.20:42
crackerjackzwhen you install windows after installing linux it messes up grub20:42
Sean21_Windows 7 was already installed20:42
crackerjackzso you need to boot from a live cd and chroot into your linux install and fix grub20:42
mlliewilee-nilee: ok, boot recovery kernel and then? It stops at black screen there as well20:42
Sean21_What is "live cd", is it the samething as booting up from the usb flash drive I did?20:42
qwebirc86523dr_willis , ThinkT510 :  Thanks for the info.  I was able to confirm it here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-10-Will-Be-Distributed-As-Hybrid-CD-USB-images-206765.shtml .20:43
foodaufs is not supported ? I just tried to customize the Kernel in Live CD20:43
qwebirc86523In case all current and future Ubuntu Live ISOs are "hybrid" ISOs, I would like to suggest that the 'dd' method of creating LiveUSB be added to the documentation at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick  since this seems to be an easy method of creating the LiveUSB and would also be preferred by those who like using the command line exclusively.20:43
wilee-nileemllie, The only thing I know here is how to insert nomodeset in the kernel to possibly get a low graphics situation.20:43
crackerjackzSean21_: just use the cd you installed ubuntu with but you could use any linux live cd i believe20:43
wilee-nileemllie, This is beyond my help honestly. ;)20:44
Sean21_I installed unbuntu with usb20:44
crackerjackz!grub20:44
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)20:44
foodI am testing the ISO on vmware workstation20:44
crackerjackzSean21_: see the link ubottu spit out20:44
Elise001Ok I changed my c program's source code. It is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1333140/20:45
angela-msg nickserv identify 2512220:45
MonkeyDustangela-  change your password :-20:45
MonkeyDust:-)20:45
wilee-nileeSean21_, Here is a link use the chroot to reload grub to the mbr. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing  The is also a bootrepiar app that will generate a bootinfo summary that makes this help much easier.20:45
Sean21_Ok i will try, Im a bit of noob with this stuff.20:45
trismElise001: you still need to fix the curly quotes on the printf line, "" not “”20:45
Elise001Next I will put the output from compiling to pastebin.20:46
zenxlol20:46
crackerjackzSean21_: you can do it, i have faith in you20:46
Elise001What is wrong with the curly quotes on the printf line, please?20:47
Sean21_Thanks, you boosted my confidence :)20:47
trismElise001: the compiler doesn't like them20:47
ActionParsnipSean21_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video   bit friendlier20:47
Elise001Should I use 1 quote on each side instead of 2 quotes?20:47
Sean21_oh great,thnx20:48
trismElise001: you need to use this character "20:48
crackerjackzSean21_: your linux install is still there... you just messed up the bootloader is all20:48
d0min8r3Does anyone know of a good netbook OS? Besides Ubuntu Desktop.20:48
crackerjackzonce you fix grub you'll have the choice to boot into linux or windows20:48
xanguad0min8r3: kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, you have plenty of flavors20:49
Sean21_Ok cool, if I decide to upgrade to windows 8, will I have to do anything?20:49
crackerjackzactually it wasn't anything you did, windows does that.. thats why you should install windows first and linux 2nd20:49
d0min8r3Anything besides ubuntu?20:49
Sean21_Windows was already installed20:49
ActionParsnipd0min8r3: Lubuntu uses fewer resources and will give a more responsive OS20:49
ActionParsnipd0min8r3: then its offtopic here, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic20:49
crackerjackzif you upgrade to windows 8 you may have to fix grub again.. but once you do it you'll be able to do it again20:49
d0min8r3#ubuntu-offtopic20:50
Sean21_Gotcha, however Windows was installed before I installed linux20:50
crackerjackzSean21_: it only takes like 5 - 10 mins to fix grub if you knkow what you're doing... maybe 20 - 60 if you don't exactly know what you're doing.. but you have people here who will help you20:51
OnlyMAJHi .i use ubuntu 12.4.i want to set password for thunderbird for every runnuing .any soloution ?20:51
wilee-nileeSean21_, When I upgraded to W8 grub was not effected here it does not know how to overwrite the grub and put its bootloader in so keep an eye on the rebooots on the install.20:51
VLanXhow is the effect that you get when pressing multiple times for example on firefox on the unity tab, you can see all the opened windows and then you can switch to the single window?20:52
Sean21_Ok hopefully it only takes 5-10 minutes.20:52
Elise001It compiled ok, first with gcc then with cc. Thank you.20:52
Elise001But won't run when I type in a.out.20:52
trismElise001: ./a.out20:53
wilee-nileeOnlyMAJ, Is this so other users cannot open thunderbird20:53
OnlyMAJwilee-nilee: yeah . just me !20:53
Elise001I will try that.20:53
wilee-nileeOnlyMAJ, I would set them up with their own accounts if it were me.20:54
Elise001trism: Thank you very much! It printed as expected.20:54
OnlyMAJwilee-nilee: hmmm...20:55
OnlyMAJi want to set password just for thunderbird ,nothing else !20:55
ActionParsnipElise001: you may need to mark it executable too20:56
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wilee-nileeOnlyMAJ, I see nothing on the web in linux for this, when you search with password all I see is passwords associated with email accounts. This does not mean it is not possible, but I would not hold your breath for an answer. ;)20:57
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OnlyMAJwilee-nilee: tnx anyway ;D20:58
OnlyMAJi search it again !20:58
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david_alguien sabe como me meto al xat en español???21:03
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c_smith_Hi, I was here trying to get help with Ubuntu not detecting Windows on my laptop, I found the reason: UEFI21:05
c_smith_Windows didn't set up the proper partitions.21:05
twirmc_smith_, so you can now access your windows partition, or are you looking for more help?21:07
c_smith_twirm: I have been able to access windows from Windows itself, Ubuntu refuses to see it because of Windows not setting up the UEFI partition, something I know how to fix.21:07
c_smith_but it will take a good chunk of my time. >.<21:08
c_smith_being as it involves reinstalling Windows.21:08
escottc_smith_, install gdisk and tell us what the partition tables look like (gdisk will let you look at the msdos and gpt tables independently, no other tool i know of can do that)21:09
twirmc_smith_, oof. Congrats on figuring it out21:09
* twirm high five21:09
Anon_Linuxae21:09
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Anon_Linux]tudo bem21:09
Anon_Linuxtudo bem21:09
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c_smith_escott: I looked in Gparted and it complained about the UEFI partition not being there, either way wouldn't show anything.21:10
chaospsychexhi21:10
guntbertbekks: time for a short pm?21:11
c_smith_escott: I didn't even attempt an install since right then I realized what was going on and am gonna have to reinstall.21:11
escottc_smith_, i installed win7 on a uefi system in what i thought was uefi mode, but windows did an msdos partition setup. without the efi partition it should not be bootable so you might actually have an msdos system with an invalid gpt table21:11
bekksguntbert: Sure.21:11
wyclifIOW to get a SCSI CDROM to boot the installation media, do I need to change the boot order in the regular system BIOS or in the SCSI BIOS?21:11
escottc_smith_, in either case i would install gdisk to figure out what you do have as your tables21:11
basketballstarcan i put a to do list and a calender on my ubuntu 12.10 desktop21:11
c_smith_escott: it's bootable, but has MSDOS partitioning. that's what Gparted was complaining about.21:11
c_smith_but I just popped in to say that.21:12
c_smith_I have several things I can try to fix this.21:12
c_smith_figured you all should know since somebody else might run into this.21:12
angela-hi war can i fint free mp3 downloads/21:13
chaospsychex0.o21:13
wyclifI have a PC that I want to install Ubuntu on that has a SCSI card (an Adaptec 29160). The CDROM is device #3. I've burned an Ubuntu ISO and I can't get the install media to boot. I've changed the boot order in the BIOS to "SCSI" and in the SCSI BIOS edited the boot order to boot from device #3 (the CDROM). Yet, I still cannot get the ISO to boot from the CDROM. Any ideas?21:13
chaospsychexwyclif: verify that the drive will boot other install media first-cd's21:14
xanguaangela-: jamendo.com has free/copyleft music21:14
wyclifchaospsychex: I tried that, but it will not boot any installation media at this point21:14
angela-thnanks21:14
chaospsychexwyclif: does the drive read cd's once booted ?21:15
ActionParsnipwyclif: is the SCSI card bootable?21:16
angela-but xangua  how to download thare mp3`s?21:16
wyclifchaospsychex: I get the error: DISK BOOT ERROR. INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS "ENTER".21:16
ActionParsnipwyclif: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?21:16
wyclifchaospsychex: only music CDs, not data21:16
wyclifActionParsnip: yes, I did the standard verify checksum checks upon burning the ubuntu .iso21:17
wyclifActionParsnip: yes, the SCSI functionality works and I can access the SCSI bios as well21:18
chaospsychexwyclif: in what os does it read only music cd's and not data cd's ?21:19
escottwyclif, does the scsi bios support booting cds? have you been able to boot any other cds?21:19
wyclifchaospsychex: Jaunty is installed on the HDD, but because Jaunty is no longer supported, I cannot update over the network any longer21:20
escott!eol21:20
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades21:20
Kinder-Pingviкороче да.. на arial все-таки остановился... на легком сглаживании и межстрочке RGB.. очень сочно смотрится21:20
escott!ru | Kinder-Pingvi21:21
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chaospsychexwyclif: you said you were able to access the scsi bios, did you see any config settings for booting from an optical drive ?21:21
wyclifescott: the SCSI BIOS allows you to set boot order on the SCSI card. The CDROM is device #3. When I edit the boot order in the SCSI BIOS to boot the CD first, it won't boot and gives me the DISK BOOT FAILURE error21:21
chaospsychexwyclif: what is device #1 and #2 ?21:22
wyclifchaospsychex: the options in the SCSI BIOS allow you to change the boot order by device. In this case, the CDROM is device #3, so that is what I set it to.21:22
wyclifchaospsychex: the only devices in the chain are the HDD and the CDROM. The HDD is device 0, the CDROM device 321:23
LinkandzeldaHow would I go about installing a GTK theme? I want to replace the default Ambiance theme with another GTK2 theme I downloaded.21:23
escottwyclif, two things (a) look at the link above https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades because you can still do a release-upgrade. (b) although the bios may let you put the device as bootable that doesn't necessarily mean that the image you try to boot will understand how to boot when the cd is in a scsi bios (basically the cd has its own bootloader which needs to find the cd again... so the scsi bios needs to fake things so that21:23
escottthe cd is accessible to the limited cd bootloader to make it look like the cd is disk 121:23
ihpMy apt-get is stuck in a state where it cant install anything, should i reinstall ubuntu?21:24
escottwyclif, so the question for (b) is "have you ever been able to boot a cd with your scsi card?"21:24
escottihp, details please. what messages does apt-get give you?21:24
guntbertihp: no, how did it get that way?21:24
dsprcihp: what errors are you getting? how is it "stuck" exactly?21:25
ActionParsnipLinkandzelda: you will need a GTK3 theme, there are PPAs with them or you can use gnome-look.org21:25
LinkandzeldaActionParsnip: Thanks, also how would I go about enabling Global menu with this gnome-panel I got yesterday? Thanks21:26
chaospsychexwyclif: why don't try booting from a live usb ? does your system support booting from usb ?21:26
ihpguntbert, escott: dont have the comp here. i installed a driver for my screen. failed via apt-get so did it manually and now it cant finish installing anything anymore21:26
wyclifescott: yes, in fact I installed Jaunty ages ago from the same CDROM drive with no issues, that's what's so odd21:26
wyclifchaospsychex: that would be a good solution if I had USB on this box :(21:26
ActionParsnipLinkandzelda: no idea, not something I use. I know XFCE has a global maneu but not sure if Gnome panel has one21:26
escottwyclif, then either (a) the cd image has been changed so that it no longer works, or (b) you downloaded a bad image/burned a bad image21:27
LinkandzeldaActionParsnip: I see, maybe I can live without it then.21:27
guntbertihp: thats difficult for helpers - please come again when you have access to your system21:27
chaospsychexwyclif: how did you burn the img ?21:27
chaospsychexwyclif: if you can't access the files on cd's then something is wrong with the drive21:27
wyclifescott: chaospsychex: I burned the .iso on a MBP, then used "verify" to check the data in Disk Utility.21:28
chaospsychexwyclif: how big is your HDD ?21:28
wyclifescott: I was careful to do the checks upon burning the .iso, doing everything I could to ensure that it was a good copy21:28
wyclifchaospsychex: 17GB21:28
chaospsychexwyclif: if i was you i would run the .iso from the hdd21:29
escottwyclif, did you burn as iso? was it a single burn (cd-r style) or might you have done a multisession (cd-rw style) burn by mistake21:29
chaospsychexwyclif: you can boot from the .iso, with the .iso on a seperate partition, using grub21:30
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wyclifescott: good question. I downloaded the .iso directly from Ubuntu.com. Then I copied the .iso to Disk Utility and burned it, and checked "Verify" to do the data checks, &c.21:30
L3topwyclif: did you check the md5sum?21:31
chaospsychexwyclif: extract the contents of the .iso to a 1gb partition and boot from it using grub. do you have grub installed as a bootloader on your system ?21:31
wyclifchaospsychex: yes, I have GRUB.21:31
wyclifchaospsychex: in order to do that, do I need to resize partitions, &c?21:32
L3topwyclif: of the iso... the verify only checks that the burn matches the image. If that base image is corrupt it will still verify.21:32
dr_willisgrub can boot some iso files.  no need to extract. ;-)21:32
chaospsychexwyclif: well that would be a problem if you have no way to boot anything.....nvm21:32
wyclifL3top: but I copied the .iso directly from ubuntu.com21:32
pawieckihi :) I installed Ubuntu 12.10 from minimal.iso and after successful installation i downloaded xubuntu-desktop. Everything works good, but the NM icon is gray, and it shows no active wired connections, while i'm obviously using one :) An ideas what might be the problem?21:32
wilee-nileewyclif, You have grub legacy or grub 221:32
L3topwyclif: again, unless you check the md5sum, you will not know whether or not you have a clean image.21:33
L3top!md5sum21:33
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows21:33
basketballstarcan you put a calender on the desktop21:33
* chaospsychex tapes calender to basketballstar's desktop!21:33
wyclifwilee-nilee: legacy GRUB (0.97 to be specific)21:33
zykotick9pawiecki: verify you don't have network settings for you wireless in /etc/network/interfaces21:33
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escottwyclif, also (i dont know what this verify actually does perhaps L3top knows) the verify could just be confirming that you burned a the iso image file onto the cd correctly not that you burned the iso correctly21:34
Linkandzeldaseems I have a problem with Nautilis. its not showing new files that recently downloaded, but they are there in the downloads folder I just cant see them21:34
escottwyclif, there are instructions on ubuntu.com that will take you step by step through the process of burning a cd correctly on a macbook.21:34
wilee-nileewyclif, I thought so if you get to doing the md5sum and need to boot from grub makes sure it is you announce the grub legacy for help here.21:34
escottpawiecki, did you install network manager?21:35
wyclifdoes anybody here know how a md5sum check on a MBP with their Disk Utility? Is that possible?21:35
wyclifwilee-nilee: gotcha21:35
escottwyclif, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/burn-a-dvd-on-mac-osx21:35
escottwyclif, if you follow the above then the burn should be good. so you just need to open a terminal and type md5sum /path/to/ubuntu.iso21:36
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pawieckizykotick: the settings are as follows: "# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system21:37
pawiecki# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).21:37
pawiecki# The loopback network interface21:37
pawieckiauto lo21:37
pawieckiiface lo inet loopback21:37
pawiecki# The primary network interface21:37
FloodBot1pawiecki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:37
wyclifescott: I followed those exact directions to the letter, in fact :(21:37
pawieckiahh sry for flood21:38
marcappuccinopawiecki: are you looking to set a static IP?21:38
escottpawiecki, did you actually install network-manager. i dont think it would get pulled in via xubuntu-desktop21:38
marcappuccinoI just entered sorry21:38
zykotick9pawiecki: you should see both "/msg ubottu tab" as well as "/msg ubottu paste"21:38
wyclifescott: so in this case the correct path would be /dev/cdrom ???21:38
escottwyclif, you could do that (with the ubuntu disk inserted). or it would /users/USERNAME/???/Downloads/ubuntu-blah-blah.iso or something like that21:39
pawieckii have dynamic IP. How to tell if i have NM installed? There's an icon just like in stock Ubuntu, when i click it i can see wireless network, but none wired - which i'm using to connect to internet right now :)21:41
LinkandzeldaActionParsnip: any idea about this, whenver I use the archive extractor from nautilis the folder doesnt show, until i restart it?21:41
L3topwyclif: and where you downloaded the image, there will be an md5sum to compare. If they are the same, then we can proceed.21:41
escottpawiecki, dpkg -l "*network*" and see if network-manager is listed with "ii" to the left21:41
wyclifL3top: yes I was just looking at the md5sum.txt21:42
badloopis it possible to have rsyslog forward to a remote host outside the local network?21:42
badloopcan't seem to get it to do anything...21:42
escottLinkandzelda, what if you ctrl-R to reload the folder21:43
wyclifchaospsychex: escott: L3top: thanks for the help, I will try again and make sure md5sum is good21:44
jcolsonCan anyone point me to documentation describing how to disable the grouping of windows in the window switcher (12.10)?21:44
Linkandzeldaescott: that works, but its not exactly ideal. apparently this "bug" has been around since 9.1021:44
escottLinkandzelda, does it work properly if you just "touch" a file in that folder? perhaps you modified your kernel and it doesnt support inotify events?21:45
escottbadloop, in what way is it not working? perhaps you have a firewall or NAT on the other end?21:46
Linkandzeldaescott: all I've done is install some nautilis extras like dropbox and gnome-sushi, and im not using unity I'm using gnome-panel.21:46
pawieckinetwork-manager & network-manager-gnome installed21:46
NorbertossHi, there !21:46
NorbertossI just have some problem to understand(?) linking21:47
escottLinkandzelda, if you open up a folder and in a terminal run "touch /path/to/folder/test.txt" does it create the empty file "test.txt" and show it without prompting?21:47
NorbertossI think that "-f" switch doesn't work in "ln"21:47
badloopescott: i've monitored udp traffic on the sending end, and it doesn't seem to be generating any packets when i create a test log entry21:47
Norbertoss"-f" doesn't want to overwrite an existing directory with the same name nor an existing link.21:48
jcolsonbadloop, have you tried using the "@<hostname>" notation in the config file? It should route anywhere assuming your system is routing properly?21:48
badloopoh wait.. there it goes21:48
badloophmmmmmm21:48
Linkandzeldaescott: I'll try it21:48
L3topwyclif: if I were you, what I would do is, locate the zsync link where you downloaded the iso... then sudo apt-get install zsync  then just type zsync http://path/to/iso.zsync       this will basically "fix" the iso. It will not tell you it is done till the md5sums match... and you will only overwrite the corrupt parts of the image. Much faster.21:48
tsimpsonNorbertoss: it will overwrite an existing link, but not a directory21:48
pawiecki!pastebin21:49
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L3topwyclif: launch from folder where ubuntu.iso exists.21:49
pawiecki!pastebinit21:49
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com21:49
escottbadloop, my first suspicion would be that you need to open port 431? on the remote NAT because you have inbound traffic that is coming from outside your subnet. (assuming you have a NAT)21:49
Linkandzeldaescott: I had the Downloads folder opened and ran "touch Downloads/test.txt" and the file was not shown. I do ctrl + r and it shows21:49
pawieckiis there a sort of man or help here?21:49
badloopescott: 431? udp syslog is 514...21:49
wyclifL3top: I will have to see if that utility is available as part of the standard UNIX tools on a MBP, where I burned it.21:49
L3topwyclif: understood. Should be I would think... it is just a different rsync...21:50
escottbadloop, wasn't sure what port it was... some example listed 43121:50
escottLinkandzelda, that would suggest inotify isn't working properly on your system21:50
dsprcwyclif: if not just pull it in from the macports collection21:51
wyclifL3top: in any case, I am now installing zsync here...21:51
wilee-nileepawiecki, You might try as well at #xubuntu21:52
escottLinkandzelda, there is a command line application "inotifywatch" in the inotify-tools package. might help you verify if inotify is/is not working on your system21:52
wyclifdsprc: thanks, will look for it21:52
Norbertosstsimpson: Strange, but it doesn't want to overwrite a link. :( I tried it under another distro, but I thought it is distro-independent21:52
L3topwyclif: I love zsync. We pump out an iso almost daily... so I just rename the old build to the new builds name, and they start about 70% done. On my bandwidth, and the size of the dvd isos that is tremendous.21:52
Linkandzeldaescott: I'll install that and find out then21:53
wyclifL3top: interesting; I've never heard of it before, only familiar with rsync :)21:53
Norbertosstsimpson: Some folks in another IRC channel told me that maybe busybox in my distro is too old to support "-f". Is it possible ?21:54
tsimpsonNorbertoss: no, we don't use busybox21:54
escottNorbertoss, busybox is not the standard ln. don't use busybox and expect it to act like gnu utils21:54
pawieckiescott, i have both network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed. The /etc/network/interfaces looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1333301/21:54
L3topwyclif: I can actually build my own isos from a dd image naming them the latest build image name, they start out at about 64%21:55
Norbertossescott: I'm afraid, I don't know anything about it. :S21:55
wyclifL3top: that sounds rather useful21:55
wyclifL3top: although I don't often burn iso's21:56
escottpawiecki, im afraid i dont know much about xubuntu21:56
tsimpsonNorbertoss: what exactly are you trying to do that's failing?21:56
pawieckiescott, ok, no problem, thx for help so far :)21:56
Linkandzeldaescott: http://pastebin.com/6JuxEe2d21:56
Linkandzeldaescott: this is what happens when I run the tool21:57
escottLinkandzelda, can you verify the pastebin21:58
Linkandzeldaescott: oops, fail much lol22:01
ceccolowhat is this silence22:01
Linkandzeldaescott: http://pastebin.com/yVUQiw53 thats more like it22:02
wilee-nileececcolo, You have not posted anything.22:02
ceccoloI have to read a guide22:03
escottLinkandzelda, so there is your problem. you could run something like "echo #### > sudo tee /proc/blah/blah" to increase that limit. better would be to figure out what application is using all your inotify watches22:04
L3topceccolo: do you have an ubuntu support question?22:04
Linkandzeldaescott: I bet its dropbox lol22:04
Norbertossescott: First, I create a link: ln -sfv /foo /root/othername. It succeeds. I try to REPEAT this. It won't ovewrite the destination, it creates a link to "/foo" in "/root/othername" (result: "/root/othername/foo") It won't replace the link "/root/othername" with "/foo2" neither. :( I hope, you understood :S22:05
gordonjcpaha22:05
ceccolono, I'm sorry, first time22:05
gordonjcpLinkandzelda: running out of inotify?22:05
escottLinkandzelda, basically inotify is a kernel facility to allow applications to monitor directories and files for changes. but it can be abused in a multi-user system and slow down the system so they cap each user at some number listed in that /proc file22:05
gordonjcpthere's a thing that causes that22:05
gordonjcpit's lying22:05
gordonjcpthere are *loads* of inotify handles available22:05
Linkandzeldaescott: the number listed in the file is 8132.... that sounds pretty high? lol22:05
escottLinkandzelda, yeah but if you had thousands of files in dropbox folders and dropbox was watching each and every one...22:06
Linkandzeldaescott: oh, now that makes sense when I have over 40,000 lol22:06
escottNorbertoss, i think you need " -n, --no-dereference        treat destination that is a symlink to a directory as if it were a normal file"22:07
Norbertossescott: Damn, you are a genius ... er ... thank you VERY much. it has solved my problem. :P22:10
escottLinkandzelda, a better solution is for dropbox to only monitor folders not files, that leaves the possibility that an open file is not updated (because you append to the end of it) but these days thats pretty rare, often things will overwrite or replace a file with a new one which would trigger an inotify event on the directory22:10
LinkandzeldaActionParsnip: I have a GTK3 theme but have no Idea how to install it. Ive tried to install it using ubuntu tweak but i always get "invalid theme file"22:10
escottNorbertoss, do be careful increasing that limit in /proc. those watches can be expensive in both memory and cpu22:11
Linkandzeldaescott: i guess, but theres no way i could change dropbox to do that?22:11
escottLinkandzelda, there might be some setting somewhere (or file a bug with them)22:11
escottLinkandzelda, they should not be taking out thousands of watches (assuming that it is there fault which you should confirm)22:11
tyfaustHow do you copy (with cp) multiple folders to a new location at once? (example 'cp -rv /media/hdd1/folder1+folder2 /media/hdd2/') Not sure how you can do more than one folder in the first string of copy/cp. Any advice or suggestions are welcome.22:12
escotttyfaust, cp 1 2 3 4 5 /target22:12
Norbertossescott: What are "watches" ? :S What kind of "limit" ? :S Sorry, I don't understand :(22:12
escottNorbertoss, sorry meant those last two for Linkandzelda22:13
tyfaustescott so just the last one is always the destination for all other folders/locations listed?22:13
Norbertossescott: No problem. Thanks for your kindly help. :)))22:13
escotttyfaust, yes22:13
Linkandzeldaescott: I remember I took this picture when starting dropbox https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2873587/Screenshot%20from%202012-11-04%2019%3A15%3A36.png22:13
tyfaustescott, thanks for your help! I will give it a try.22:14
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escottLinkandzelda, 404ed22:14
Linkandzeldaescott: becuase dropbox didnt upload it like it should of... lol22:14
GRRR3hey guys, i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my dell laptop. i initially installed with an ALT install disk but after install ubuntu just froze after BIOS, wouldn't boot, and showed a blank screen. you guys told me to get a live cd, but my dvd burner is broken and i cannot burn a disk. i'm wondering if USB would work?22:17
s0upafter updating ubuntu my menu's look like http://phota.me/i1ju.png .. any ideas?22:17
Linkandzeldaescott: should be up now22:17
escottGRRR3, did you ever see the bootloader?22:17
GRRR3didn't see grub22:17
GRRR3just the dell bios stuff adn then it asked me if i wanted to boot from harddisk whcih i did.. then it froze22:18
GRRR3should i maybe try installing without grub?22:18
GRRR3or should i try making an ubuntu USB? is USB a live version of ubuntu?22:19
escottLinkandzelda, WOW. my already low opinion of dropbox has been lowered even further. i would email dropbox and politely ask them to "sudo rm -rf /"22:19
Linkandzeldaescott: LOL, they truly are lazy with this one... too bad I have to use DB for other stuff22:20
GRRR3what do you guys reckon? i really wanna get ubuntu on this laptop22:20
escottGRRR3, the "live" system is part of the normal install image. it can be a cd or a usb. it is NOT on the alt image22:20
NorbertossGRRR3: There is two another methods to get a new OS. Anyway, you could try to install another kind of GRUB - it can be done with Puppy Linux :) But I don't want to confuse you ;)22:21
ActionParsnipGRRR3: what video chip do you use?22:21
GRRR3not sur eabout video chip22:21
badloopahhhh… got it.. my router was only forwarding TCP traffic22:21
badloop:-P22:21
GRRR3second hand laptop, no idea of the specs22:21
escottGRRR3, the fact that you went for the alt install disk suggests something is off with your hardware making the install harder but you havent indicated what that might have been22:21
ActionParsnipGRRR3: does the system have a make and model22:21
escottbadloop, cool22:21
GRRR3i went for the ALT disk because i always install with LVM encryption22:22
GRRR3its a del inspiron 150122:22
badloopthe pains of using a compact, store bought router… no tcpdump… :-P22:22
badloopeven with it being an rt-n66u …22:22
adaminsullHi22:22
GRRR3the only options i have are ALT cd's which are already burned (i cannot burn any disks atm), or to use USB...22:22
adaminsullWhen using sudo I get this22:22
adaminsullircd is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.22:23
escottadaminsull, why is your username ircd?22:23
GRRR3i can also plug in to the internet, can i install it over the internet somehow?22:23
GRRR3directly22:23
adaminsullescott: Because i'm using it not as root22:23
adaminsullI'm making my irc server so used ircd22:23
NorbertossGRRR3: Do you have an operating system what is supported by VirtualBox ? There is a method to transfer virtual machine to a real machine22:23
escottadaminsull, thats a really odd choice22:23
adaminsullescott: You cannot do unrealircd as root22:24
FireStormsHey can I make Ubuntu (10.04) launch a program automatically when inactive for xx.xx.xx?22:24
GRRR3i have another laptop but unfortunately i cannot run both laptops at the same time as their batteries are both stuffed and i have to have them plugged in, and i only have one cord atm22:24
escottadaminsull, you should have a normal username "adam" or whatever you want, and then isntall unrealircd which should create an ircd account under which it will run22:24
GRRR3if that is the only option i have, i can go out and purchase a new power cord i guess22:24
adaminsullescott: Well how do I add to sudoers file22:24
GRRR3the other laptop runs ubuntu and has virtualbox installed22:24
escottadaminsull, there are lots of accounts *d that should have NO ACCESS to the system. whose sole purpose is to run various daemons22:25
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adaminsullHow do I give it access?22:25
escottadaminsull, if you configure your sudoers file to allow a *d account to sudo then you are doing it wrong22:25
GRRR3i really don't wanna go back to windows :(22:25
adaminsullescott: I havent set it up22:25
adaminsullHow can I22:25
NorbertossFireStorms: I think it is can be done via (handwritten) scripts. xD So it would be a difficult work to create. :D22:26
ActionParsnipGRRR3: seems to be an ATi Radeon Xpress115022:26
ActionParsnipGRRR3: try the boot option: nomodeset22:26
escottadaminsull, when you install set your username as "adam" (or whatever you would use on your desktop) you will use "adam" to administer the system and "adam" will be able to sudo. "adam" will install unrealircd and unrealircd should create an ircd account which is locked (preventing anyone from using it)22:27
Linkandzeldadoes anyone know why the process signond is using 100% cpu?22:27
GRRR3only boot option i have are boot from harddisk, boot from cd, boot from usb22:27
adaminsullescott: I don't understand unix so can u just tell me how to allow it access?22:27
escottadaminsull, no i will not. because what you are proposing is wrong22:27
escottGRRR3, the LVM encryption is probably the problem here22:28
adaminsullI want my ircd user to be able to use sudo22:28
ActionParsnip!bootoption | GRRR322:28
ubottuGRRR3: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions See also !nomodeset.22:28
escottGRRR3, did you install grub and /boot to some partition outside of the LVM encryption?22:28
GRRR3grub is installed, but doesn't seem to load or give me the option to load it22:28
adaminsullescott: I need to give it permission to use sudo but how?22:28
GRRR3escott, do you think if i reinstall without LVM it might work out??22:28
Linkandzeldaand I also seem to have a problem with my network being unstable and slow. http://uppix.net/8/f/5/80e7d396f16f297d50a20e0701319.png22:29
GRRR3actionparsnip, please explain what you mean by that? i don't have access to grub, is that a grub command or something?22:29
SunMoonStarHi friends. Hope I can get help about this. I want to have dual boot with Windows. I read one recommendation on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace that I should make a sharing partition in ntfs to share with Windows and use that instead of sharing directly into Windows partition because files can get overridden by hibernation? How does that work? I see recommendations like this page that I can just use a utility like here http://w22:29
escottadaminsull, im not answering that question. i would suggest you ask in #backtrack-linux they will happily help you set that up and compromise your system at the same time22:30
adaminsullI just need help22:30
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, This an apple computer?22:31
GRRR3would installing without the splash scrfeen work? it might be the splash screen doing it. is there an option to do that?22:31
escottGRRR3, i dont know much about lvm+encryption, but presumably grub needs to find the lvm modules and perhaps even load a kernel to be able to prompt you for the encryption password. so grub and maybe /boot needs to be outside the lvm partitions22:31
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: no I have Windows22:31
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, The shared NTFS is just another NTFS partition.22:32
adaminsullescott: How do I read main22:32
adaminsullmail22:32
GRRR3i'm not sure what you mean by "grub needs to be outside the LVM"... but let me ask you, should i reinstall without LVM... and/or should i reinstall and not install GRUB along with it?22:32
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, Do you a space for another partition?22:32
wilee-nileehave*22:33
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: Yes I think so. I have 1 TB hard drive, and I want to give each OS about 450, and put maybe 100 on the partition?22:33
GRRR3i'm perfectly happy to go without LVM if it'll work...22:33
escottGRRR3, it takes a potential problem off the table22:33
GRRR3i'll give it a shot22:34
GRRR3thanks for your help, appreciated22:34
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: but I wanted to know if it makes sense to use a partition if I can conveniently use a utility22:34
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, Cool you want to be aware of types of partitions IE primary or logical and limitations on a single HD is all.22:34
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, What utility?22:34
SunMoonStarhttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2265543,00.asp22:35
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: one of those?22:35
EaglemanIt looks like port 25 is blocked: (  http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL1526778  )  So i am unable to use port 25 for mail submissions?22:35
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: i will try to google the words you mentioned22:35
adaminsullIt says You have new mail but how do I read it?22:35
SunMoonStari am running ubuntu on only 10gb via a windows installer and someone told me it's not a real partition, so i want to set ubuntu up for real because i like it more22:36
escottSunMoonStar, thats WUBI and a real partition will be faster. the other direction you could go is to use virtualbox22:36
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, Did you notice this date on this link.  February 8, 200822:36
wilee-nilee  A shared ntfs is the general concensus.22:36
Benyamin90morning from indonesia22:36
Benyamin90anyone know why flash player only untill ver 11.2 for linux?22:36
neurehi22:37
OerHeksEagleman, yes, some providers block 1-1024, contact your provider.22:37
MK`can I upgrade Ubuntu while things like xchat are still running, only restarting when it's done?22:37
MK`or should I close everything?22:37
gordonjcpMK`: yes22:37
yerioduc?22:37
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, With ubuntu you have ubuntu one 5 free gigs of storage, you can have ubuntu one in windows as well, this is cloud computing.22:37
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: what sort of limitations were you referring to regarding a single HD22:37
gordonjcpMK`: firefox will get its knickers in a twist22:37
escottMK`, upgrading? meaning what 11.10-12.04 upgrading or just security updateS?22:37
mih1406In lightDM what does greeter means? does it mean a theme?22:37
Benyamin90no22:38
MK`Upgrading. I'm on 11.04 and it just told me I need to upgrade :P didn't realize it'd been so long22:38
Benyamin90there's ver 11.4 but only mac and win3222:38
escottmih1406, lightDM is a greeter (the graphical application that asks you for your password)22:38
Benyamin90hmm22:38
Benyamin90i must take a bath22:38
escottMK`, but what do you mean by "upgrading" what is it asking you to do22:38
MK`11.04 -> 11.1022:39
neurei am looking for terminal which can do paste with shift-insert22:39
NorbertossBenyamin90: Adobe stopped to develpo under Linux22:39
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, With a standard msdos setup not a uefi or gpt 4 primaries or 3 primaries and a extended with logicals inside the extended can have a lot of partitions including the shared ntfs.22:39
neurewhat terminal could do that?22:39
NorbertossBut Flash will die, soon22:39
Benyamin90hmm, why?22:39
Benyamin90because nothing they get22:39
Benyamin90?22:39
escottMK`, in that case maybe not. you can often start and application during the release-upgrade and provided you dont close it it will still work, but not always22:39
MK`alright22:39
NorbertossEr it is not about money, it is about revolution22:39
adaminsullescott: Can I read main?22:39
Benyamin90yeah after coming html522:39
adaminsullmail*22:39
basketballstarcan i put a to do list on my desktop22:39
Benyamin90hei btw anyone like tears of steel?22:39
NorbertossFlash is dying because HTML5 will do the job instead of it22:40
mih1406escott, what are other greeters out there?22:40
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, YOu might install gparted in the ubuntu and take a screenshot using the prtsc key and image bin it to show us the HD as it is now.22:40
escottmih1406, gdm, kdm, xdm22:40
Benyamin90thx all22:40
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: I'll have to research to understand that. Ok thanks a lot for the help. ; OK i will install gparted and do that now. brb22:40
escottmih1406, also known as "display managers" this "greeter" terminology is a new "ubuntu" term22:40
Linkandzeldaescott: any idea how to install themes from gnome-look in 12.10? xD22:41
escottLinkandzelda, no22:42
FireStormsI want to launch Transmission (torrent client) when my system is Idle similar to how the screensaver operates. Is there a script for this?22:42
Linkandzeldaescott: damn22:42
NorbertossFireStorms: maybe, it is hidden somewhere in the world of Internet. xD Out of curiousity, I don't think so. :S22:43
peterrooneywhy do people feel the need to introduce new, confusing terminology for things with well established names?22:44
basketballstarcan i make my desktop wallpaper a calender that changes by month22:44
chaospsychexFireStorms: you could always delve into BASH-Scripting and write the script yourself. Would be an exercise into the unknown!22:44
chaospsychex...or I could write the script for the cost of a donut/coffee!22:45
chaospsychex;-p22:45
ikoniabasketballstar: gnome doesn't have a "change every month" function, but there maybe a gnome applet, or easier a cron job22:45
FireStormsIf I could bash script I'd build the program myself. I'd log a mouse movement or a key stroke with a timestamp. Then check the inactivity between the last "user action"22:45
basketballstarwhat about default22:45
ikoniabasketballstar: no22:45
chaospsychexFireStorms: python could even be used to implement something like that through the OS module22:45
basketballstarcan i get a calender as my wallpaper that i can put event on22:45
escottFireStorms, I would just generate the files, and then in bash you run the gsettings command to set the wallpaper on every login.22:45
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: hey. here you go http://imagebin.org/23465922:45
* chaospsychex tapes calender on basketballstar's desktop, then hands him a sharpie!22:46
escottFireStorms, sorry not you22:46
ikoniabasketballstar: no22:46
ikoniachaospsychex: help/do not help, but the pointless comments need to stop please.22:46
jribFireStorms: here is one stupid way: put something in cron that checks if the screensaver is active22:46
chaospsychexikonia: acknowledged22:47
ikoniachaospsychex: thank you22:47
escottjrib, FireStorms problem with putting this in cron is it would need xauthority acces22:47
basketballstarwait canty i just make my google calender my wallpaper22:47
chipotleis 12.10 stable? i mainly use debian stable (squeeze and lenny) but i want php-fpm and i dont' want to compile from source, so i was considering 12.10 but i need to know if it's truly stable...22:47
ikoniabasketballstar: because that's an application/website, a wallpaper is an image22:47
FireStormsjrib nice idea, I will try22:48
Norbertossbasketballstar: What you want is as complicated as it seems to be simple.22:48
escottbasketballstar, http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BukC833v8bIJ:lifehacker.com/5610502/embed-google-calendar-on-your-linux-desktop+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=ubuntu22:49
ActionParsnipchipotle: officially, yes22:49
bsmith0931i have a very old palm m130, i want to read text files on it, what encodings do i need22:49
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, Cool so you have not installed ubuntu yet. I would shrink the windows using it app called disk manager then reboot it fro it to run the auto chkdsk to be sure it is okay. Then when you install the ubuntu in the space left as unallocated make a extnded partition in that space for the ubuntu a shared ntfs, and the swap partition. The key here is to estimate the size of that extended to con22:49
wilee-nilee tain all of these partitions when you shrink the windows partition.22:49
wilee-nileeits*22:49
ActionParsnipwilee-nilee: win7 can also shrink its own partitions :)22:49
wilee-nileeActionParsnip, That is what I said to use. ;)22:50
ActionParsnipwilee-nilee: yeah seen now :)22:50
dsprcbsmith0931: they have their own format. but you can use jpilot and its utilities to send and recieve palmdoc files from the device22:50
bsmith0931jpilot isnt working22:51
bsmith0931i have the cradle and the usb connection to the computer22:51
wilee-nileeActionParsnip, I putting a virtual linux partitioner on my christmas list. ;)22:51
dsprcbsmith0931: are you able to hotsync the device?22:51
bsmith0931yes but only on windows22:51
bsmith0931im on ubuntu lucid22:52
jribFireStorms: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#watch though xscreensaver isn't the default screensaver program on ubuntu22:52
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, Does that make sense for you, using windows own partitioner to shrink it?22:53
jribFireStorms: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeScreensaver/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#Is_there_a_way_to_perform_actions_when_the_screensaver_activates_or_deactivates.3F_Or_when_the_session_becomes_idle.3F here's your answer for gnome-screensaver22:54
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: I think so. so for example, I can shrink windows partition to 450gb. then when i srestart and try to install ubuntu, i make an 'extended partition' (will be an option for 'extended'?) and make that 550gb/what's left, and within that, allocate 450gb to ubuntu and 100gb will be ntfs?22:54
chaospsychexdoesn't the ubuntu iso come with gparted ?22:55
escottchaospsychex, i dont believe the newer versions do22:55
dsprcbsmith0931: have you played around with the "sync port" settings yet?22:55
Seven_Six_TwoI added a network card to a server (it works fine), and now apache won't serve pages to the internet. It was working (nothing else was changed), and it will serve on my lan without problem.22:55
znc1hi we new22:56
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dsprcbsmith0931: should have had this problem last week before my m130 died on me :P22:56
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FloodBot1znc4: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:56
znc4hi we new22:56
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chipotleActionParsnip: and unofficially?22:56
ActionParsnipchipotle: its fine, get it in22:56
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, I would use gparted to build the partitions on the ubuntu install, to set it up and use the do something else option at the install gui this is a manual install, we can help you there as well, and the making of the partitions. ;)22:56
Seven_Six_TwoI tried adding the ip to both ports.conf and namevirtualhost directive. still no dice.22:56
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chaospsychexSunMoonStar: ...and you can use gparted to resize the win7 partition to make room for a ubuntu partition22:57
bsmith0931dsprc:  to try and make it work yestreday, i dont even remeemberdsprc:  ummm, maybe i did so many tweaky thing22:57
chipotleActionParsnip: what about 12.04 LTS? does that use php5-fpm? then i could use nginx's official package22:57
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: thanks. I want to take you up on it but think I should back up my windows stuff. Should I use gparted to resize windows 7 or use the one you mentioned within windows? also what is a virtual linux partitioner? :)22:58
WeThePeopleactionparsnip, how do you mount your brouser in a /tmp ram dir22:58
ActionParsnip!info php5-fpm precise22:58
wilee-nileechaospsychex, The general consensus these days is to let windows do its own partitioning it is safer22:58
ubottuphp5-fpm (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (FPM-CGI binary). In component universe, is optional. Version 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.3 (precise), package size 3057 kB, installed size 8135 kB22:58
ActionParsnipchipotle: ^ yes22:58
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, I would not use gparted to resize windows that far myself, and yes back it up.22:58
chaospsychexwilee-nilee: i see22:58
SunMoonStarchaospsychex: thanks22:59
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: I make a folder in /run at boot using /etc/rc.local  then I have a symlink from ~/.cache/google-chrome  to that folder already setup22:59
Norbertossescott: "ln -sfvn ..." doesn't want to overwrite directory with a symlink. Is it impossible, anyway ? I'v read "ln --help", and the definition to "--force" is the next: "remove existing destination files". Well ?22:59
escottwilee-nilee, i've never heard that before. can windows partition a running fs?22:59
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: if you are still here after i backed up i will check if you're here22:59
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: thanks22:59
WeThePeopleactionparsnip, thanks22:59
wilee-nileeescott, Yes it is like magic in W7. ;)22:59
chaospsychexalthough I have never ran into problems using gparted to resize ntfs partitions. as long as you make sure you don't 'cut' into files.22:59
chipotleActionParsnip: is 12.04 LTS more stable than 12.10?22:59
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: ps, what is a virtual linx partitioner? you said it's on your wishlistr23:00
wilee-nileeescott, also does it instantaneously.23:00
Norbertosswilee-nilee: I don't think it is can be done in Win7 with default tools. But it can be done with "PartitionMagic"23:00
dw-Why is Chrome stuck at 18.x on Ubuntu Oneeric (11.10) ? I see 22.x is available from Google, but it won't install, it just keeps installing 18.x.  It's annoying because GDrive keeps saying I'm out of date.23:00
ActionParsnipchipotle: its intended to be, yes23:00
escottNorbertoss, as i understand your problem you have /target_dir and you ln -s /target_dir /path/to/some/file and it makes /path/to/some/file->/target_dir. you then run it again and it makes /path/to/some/file->/target_dir/file which -n fixes23:00
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, That is basically what the W7 partitioner is called as it does it on a running setup23:00
chipotleActionParsnip:  so who decides what stable means? with debian, it's simple. but it seems ubuntu is making it up...23:01
escottNorbertoss, because the issue is how ln is interpreting the target (honestly i dont understand why you would ever NOT want -n)23:01
chipotleis both 12.04 and 12.10 frozen?23:01
wilee-nileeNorbertoss, Yes it can I would not say it could if it did not. ;)23:01
escottNorbertoss, but presumably somebody had a usecase for this back in the day23:01
ActionParsnipchipotle: packages are tested more in LTS before publishing23:01
dsprcbsmith0931: you can try to 'dmesg | tail' and see if its being recognized23:01
chipotlehm23:01
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: as a sidenote, i bought a 1TB backup drive.. should I partition that into ext4/ntfs partitions or should I just save my linux stuff on ntfs? it works to do that?23:02
ActionParsnipchipotle: generally the packages in the LTS wil be older but the Quantal packages will be newer but not LTS23:02
bsmith0931dsprc: i did the "press the hotsync button" -fu but it never worked23:02
escottwilee-nilee, ok. im a bit more paranoid about things. i wouldn't recommend a live resize of a filesystem when an offline resize is available23:02
chipotleActionParsnip: what does long term support mean?23:03
ActionParsnipchipotle: 5 years support, non LTS is supported 1.5 years23:03
escottSunMoonStar, cannot install ubuntu on NTFS it must have an ext4 you can link subfolders in $HOME to folders in the NTFS23:03
chaospsychexSunMoonStar: i would do a half/half of ext4/ntfs. windows doesn't natively support ext4 without third-party drivers...23:03
dsprcbsmith0931: assuming everything is kosher, you sometimes have to be ninja on the hotsync and press it from the palm first, then quickly again in jpilot23:03
chipotleActionParsnip: okay, i'll go with lts then23:03
chipotleany reason not to?23:03
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, All my externals are ntfs you can save to that with both OS's I save with a app called grsync in ubuntu this saves home and clone bothe OS to it as well.23:03
bsmith0931dsprc: also, i have a crapload of text files sorted into many different folders, what will make them readable on the palm, wi\th minimal garbage chars due to encoding probelms?23:03
Norbertossescott: Is it able to overwrite a real directory too ?23:04
chaospsychexpersonally, i despise the NTFS fs.23:04
dw-How do I update Chrome beyond 18.x.  Ubuntu won't let me, and Google Drive keeps giving a warning message about out of date.  It's annoying.23:04
chipotlehow long has lts been out?23:04
ActionParsnipchipotle: i'd advise it for servers, quantal is good if you want the latest bells and whistles23:04
dsprcbsmith0931: are you using a specific reader or just Memo on the palm?23:04
escottNorbertoss, you mean where /path/to/link is already a directory instead of /path/to/link either not existing or being a link?23:04
bsmith0931umm how would i use memo on the palm23:05
escottNorbertoss, my guess is no, because it would first have to rm -rf that folder which would be unexpected. i wouldnt want ln to be doing rm -rf with a single bad option23:05
jribchipotle: 6.06, 8.04, 10.04, and 12.04 have all been LTS.  The versions correspond to YEAR.MONTH of release23:05
wilee-nileeescott, I can understand your thoughts here I have done it a lot of times with no problems. If you think what lvms and raid can do there are live resizes in linux as well.23:05
chipotlejrib: ah! thanks :)23:05
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: I am downloading grsync now. I am able to back up my windows from within this ubuntu using that !?23:06
trismdw-: if 12.04, 20 is in precise-proposed, otherwise you may want to just install google-chrome23:06
trismdw-: sorry no, it is in precise-updates now23:06
trismdw-: do you not have -updates enabled?23:06
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, Grsync os a app in ubuntu, you will only need it when installed, I don't know if it has a windows use honestly.23:06
escottwilee-nilee, but those are (usually) done offline. in any case i don't know that i would say its a general consensus to have everyone doing this23:06
dsprcbsmith0931: you just import them in the palmdoc format and $DEITY willing they automagically appear there23:07
escottwilee-nilee, there is rsync for windows23:07
chaospsychexSunMoonStar: you want to dual-boot on your internal hdd and use the 1tb external for storage, e.t.c ?23:07
bsmith0931dsprc: what palmdoc format23:07
Fudgeany idea why a machine would revert to read only filesystem once a week or so23:07
SunMoonStarchaospsychex: yes23:07
bsmith0931dsprc: can memo read sd cards?23:07
escottFudge, your disk is probably going bad. open the disk utility and check the SMART status23:07
wilee-nileeAll I'm going to say here on the windows partitioner is that if you look at the ubuntu forums, this app is advised constantly. ActionParsnip also mentioned it in this discussion.23:08
ActionParsnipFudge: fsck in liveCD, also grab the ultimate boot cd and check the drive with manufacturers tool23:08
ActionParsnipFudge: make sure your backups are sufficiently up to date23:09
chaospsychexSunMoonStar: it's very simple then. Boot the ubuntu image, resize the ntfs partition to make room. you have to make sure that you don't 'cut' into files that are on the ntfs partition though. You will see it, when you do it. it shows you the presence of files in relation to free-space on the partition.23:09
Norbertossescott: Thank you very much for made this clean for me. I just didn't want to use rm -rf in my code unneccesarily. I understodd that I have to ;). Hahha, I were glad, if it was act like that. xD23:09
dsprcbsmith0931: it should be able to (IIRC) by ticking the menu at the top right and selecting the card. havent used the m1xx series i years tho.23:09
SunMoonStarthanks all. logging off to back stuff up.23:09
chaospsychexSunMoonStar: have fun23:10
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, Well I tried to help you, the people here who just not familiar with the advised options are just crowding in, best of luck. ;)23:10
Fudgethanks guys23:10
chaospsychexSunMoonStar: don't mess with the 100MB system partition that win7 uses!23:10
wyclifback23:10
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SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: should iuse grsync to back up my home stuff on this (I will eventually want to get rid of this WUBI) onto my external? cause i saw that ubuntu comes with a stock app for backing up23:11
escottSunMoonStar, you could just install the new system then boot it and then copy your files off the wubi23:11
escottSunMoonStar, unless you are short on disk space23:12
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, I'm hesitant to say more as I'm being contradicted, this just makes things confusing for you. I know what I'm doing is all I will say.23:12
SunMoonStarwilee-nilee: i'd like to hear your suggestion :)23:12
dsprcbsmith0931: youre better off getting a dedicated reader though. http://www.memoware.com/mw.cgi/?screen=help_format23:13
wilee-nileeSunMoonStar, I'm very careful what I post, and I don't like being faced on the channel, so you have to understand my limitations in this.23:13
chaospsychexwilee-nilee: ?23:14
SunMoonStarwhow23:15
SunMoonStarnice guy and quite helpful but seems quite sensitive23:15
wyclifI can't boot ubuntu installation iso from my SCSI CDROM; I've set the boot order to boot the CDROM first to no avail :(23:15
escottSunMoonStar, you are bound to get different opinions in the channel, because people have different opinions. go with what you feel comfortable with23:15
SunMoonStarescott: thanks.23:15
escottwyclif, i would check if this cd can boot on another system23:15
chaospsychexwyclif: dang man, still having the problem huh, it's been hours23:16
escottwyclif, it very well may be that the image no longer works for the particular scsi boot you need. in which case you either (a) need to get an IDE cd drive and boot that (b) do an upgrade following !eol23:16
escott!eol | wyclif23:16
ubottuwyclif: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades23:16
chaospsychexwyclif: wish i coul help you but i'm not very familiar with scsi23:16
wyclifchaospsychex: yeah I did what you recommended and ran md5sum on the disc23:16
chaospsychexwyclif: and ?23:16
wyclifchaospsychex: still can't get the iso to boot23:17
chaospsychexwyclif: was the md5 the same ?23:17
wyclifchaospsychex: Yes!23:17
svsplwhich packages do I need for Power Management in KDE to work?23:17
chaospsychexwyclif: do you have other computers?23:17
wyclifchaospsychex: I have access to a friend's MBP23:17
ActionParsnipsvspl: try running:  apt-cache search kde | grep power23:18
chaospsychexwyclif: mbp ?23:18
ActionParsnipchaospsychex: mac book pro23:18
chaospsychexoh23:18
wyclifchaospsychex: MacBookPro :)23:18
svsplActionParsnip, tried that, nothing23:18
ActionParsnipsvspl: try in #kubuntu too23:18
chaospsychexwyclif: are you on the system right now?23:18
svsplI did23:18
wyclifchaospsychex: yes23:19
chaospsychexput a cd in that you know works23:19
keithclark I have added a new usb  hard drive to my server and installed usbmount.  I can see usb-usb7 directories added to /media  but nothing is in the directories.  I saved data there on another computer with rsync to this drive.  Is it not available to another computer?23:19
wyclifBTW, that EOLUupgrades page doesn't exist23:19
escottwyclif, sure exists for me23:20
chaospsychexwyclif: or, put the ubuntu cd in and try to mount it to see if you can access the fs on the disc23:20
chaospsychexwyclif: you know, you have been at this for hours with no luck and I feel your pain. Why don't you try booting to the .iso from the hdd ?23:21
wyclifchaospsychex: how to do that? For example:23:22
escottchaospsychex, thats not going to work well for him. because he will need to install over the same FS that houses the iso23:22
wyclifchaospsychex: sudo mount /media/cdrom23:23
chaospsychexescott: yes but if he could somehow get the .iso onto a seperate partition. but resizing it when he can't boot...can't resize while it's mounted and in use23:23
escottchaospsychex, yeah thats what i was getting at23:23
wyclifchaospsychex: mount: no media found on /dev/sr023:23
chaospsychexwyclif: do you have any un-partioned space on the hd ?23:23
wyclifchaospsychex: yes23:23
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wyclifchaospsychex: plenty of free space23:24
chaospsychexwyclif: how much free un-partioned space ?23:24
escottwyclif, if it is big enough to hold the iso you can put the iso in that and use grub to boot the iso23:24
chaospsychexwyclif: not FREE space, UN-PARTIONED space ?23:24
wyclifchaospsychex: how do I check that?23:24
wyclifchaospsychex: yes23:24
chaospsychexwyclif: with gparted, or disk utility, or fdisk23:24
wyclifI have GRUB 0.9723:25
escottwyclif, how about you send us the output of "sudo parted -l"23:25
chaospsychexwyclif: yes, what escott said23:25
s1lencedoes anybody know of a urxvt PPA for quantal?23:27
wyclifescott: 17.6 GB primary, 18.4GB extended, 18.4GB logical (linux-swap)23:27
escott!paste | wyclif23:28
ubottuwyclif: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:28
chaospsychexwyclif: how big is that drive ?23:28
LinkandzeldaHow would I go about changing the theme of the notifcation bubbles?23:28
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wyclifchaospsychex: 17GB23:28
chaospsychexwyclif: um, no. the WHOLE drive23:29
escottwyclif, it sounds like there is no unused space on the system. you could perhaps steal the swap space though. swapoff /dev/sdX# and then put dd the iso into that partition23:29
WeThePeopleactionparsnip, is it possible to drag and drop from /usr/share/applications >>> chromium web browser into the tmpfs in ram and have it all run in ram??23:29
AethelredI'm attempting to upgrade from grub to grub2. I'm following the instructions here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading  ... and what I'm seeing has diverged from what the guide says. I'm not sure what to do next.23:30
ActionParsnip!info s steal the swap space though. swapoff /dev/sdX# and the23:30
ubottu'steal' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable23:30
ActionParsnipoh jeez23:30
ActionParsnipsorry23:30
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: that won't work, you need to link the cache folder to a folder in tempfs23:31
escottwyclif, but if you paste the full output of parted -l we can tell you for sure23:31
wyclifchaospsychex: escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/133353623:31
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: the file in /usr/share/applications is mothing but a launcher, like a shortcut or start menu item in Windows23:31
escottwyclif, what in blazes....23:32
ActionParsnips1lence: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=rxvt-unicode&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all   why do you need a PPA?23:32
escottwyclif, i guess this is your scsi raid being stupid and reporting multiple disks instead of a single logical disk?23:32
chaospsychexwyclif: 0.o ?23:32
chaospsychexyes, big problem there23:33
ActionParsnips1lence: or am I missing something?23:33
wyclifescott: I don't know why it repeats the entries like that. I did paste the full return from parted -l23:34
chaospsychexwyclif: g2g,escott has you covered23:34
raymondjtoth_how i upghrade to ubuntu on desktop with out losing any thing i got now23:34
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escottwyclif, yeah thats not correct. no tool should be able to access independently the disks in the raid23:34
raymondjtoth_?23:34
raymondjtoth_im on windows now23:34
escottwyclif, im not sure what to tell you to do. i would worry that the commands i might give you could corrupt your existing system23:34
Rockpilehello how is everyone doing23:34
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OerHeksraymondjtoth_, make a backup first to be sure.23:35
raymondjtoth_OerHeks: ok then what i do23:35
raymondjtoth_i dont want to formate23:35
OerHeksraymondjtoth_, then upgrade ?23:35
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raymondjtoth_OerHeks: imwn windows want to migrate to ubuntu23:35
MarcNAsking again, had some network issues.  Since upgrading to 12.10, f-spot takes about 5 seconds to display photos on an external USB disk.  Seems slower than in 12.04.  Any one see worse USB mass storage performance?  Think f-spot is same version...23:36
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wyclifescott: chaospsychex: I'm guessing it's because you can terminate up to 15 devices on a SCSI bus, but in fact on this system the only devices are the HDD (shown) and the CDROM drive23:36
OerHeksraymondjtoth_, then go for install, you cannot upgrade windows to ubuntu.23:36
raymondjtoth_OerHeks: ok how i keep ubuntu and never see windows agen23:36
raymondjtoth_\23:36
raymondjtoth_?23:36
s1lenceActionParsnip: thanks23:37
OerHeksraymondjtoth_, so you want to delete windows and keep ubuntu?23:37
raymondjtoth_no i want to keep the files i got now and move over to ubuntu23:37
raymondjtoth_with out a formate23:38
escottwyclif, so you evidently have (or intend to have RAID) so all the file access should be running through a /dev/md* device which the scsi controller should duplicate to the different disks23:38
escottwyclif, the fact that parted can see the different disks in the RAID array is VERY VERY VERY BAD BAD BAD23:38
raymondjtoth_OerHeks:  understand23:39
OerHeksraymondjtoth_, i don't understand what you want.23:39
wyclifescott: great :( do you know how I can fix that?23:39
ActionParsnipescott: how bad again (haha jk)23:39
escottwyclif, because you should NOT be doing anything with /dev/sda but rather be running everything through /dev/md23:39
raymondjtoth_OerHeks: i want to keep filess i got here on windows and just install as upgrade to ubuntu withg out lossing files23:39
escottwyclif, so i would recommend you back everything up first23:40
wyclifescott: i assumed /dev/sda is how all SCSI devices are set up23:40
wyclifescott: I backed everything up about an hour ago, so I'm good with that23:40
escottwyclif, /dev/sda is a real physical disk that actually exists. /dev/md* is a multi-device which could hit multiple physical disks like /sda, /sdb etc23:41
wyclifescott: yep, /dev/sda is my HDD here23:41
WeThePeopleactionparsnip, so i create a symlink to the tmpfs from the .cache folder, what needs to go into the .cache folder to make it work properly?23:41
gustav__Can you set up a /dev/md with a RAM disk too?23:41
escottwyclif, what does "swapon -s" show23:41
escottwyclif, but im also seeing this /dev/sdb is that also a physical disk that exists?23:42
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: i'm not sure what folder chromium uses, but if you make a folder in tempfs you can link it to that23:42
wyclifescott: /dev/sdo523:42
escottwyclif, ditto on sdc - sdl or whatever23:42
WeThePeopleactionparsnip, ok thanks23:42
escottwyclif, so swapon -s only shows sdo5?23:42
wyclifescott: could that be the CDROM drive?23:42
wyclifescott: yes23:43
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: as its tempfs the changes are lost each reboot so you'll need to recreat it with /etc/rc.local and because that runs as root, you will need to chown it to your username23:43
escottwyclif, no. sdo5 should really be the same as sda5 and sdb5 and so on23:43
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escottwyclif, thats what is scaring me23:43
wyclifescott: the only two devices on this SCSI bus are the Seagate HDD and the CDROM drive.23:43
escottwyclif, so the scsi controller is doing something all kinds of wrong, because thats not what it is telling the kernel. the kernel thinks you have a dozen disks in this system23:44
wyclifescott: right, instead of sda-o23:45
wyclifescott: so I'm wondering how to fix that. BTW, I do have access to the BIOS and the SCSI BIOS, and thought all the settings there are good23:45
wyclifescott: yes, at post it tells me "too many devices terminated" but it will still boot ubuntu jaunty from the HDD23:46
ng0nanyone here built vga plug dongles to run X with no screen ?23:46
jonnecan anyone help me out with installing quantal on a zenbook ux32a?23:47
escottwyclif, also the fact that you are on grub1 means im not sure we can do what we proposed23:47
SunMoonStarguys, as some know I want to make a shared partition ntfs for windows and ubuntu to share files. currently i have one big ntfs block only as i'm running ubuntu on wubi. So, when i install ubuntu and my shared parition, should they be encapsulated in one 'extended' partition? or should I just simply make 2 totally separate partitions for them?23:48
escottwyclif, looking at http://superuser.com/questions/154133/grub-boot-from-iso23:48
jonneeven with nomodeset it wont boot23:48
ActionParsnipjonne: what video chip do you use23:48
escottSunMoonStar, either way is fine. windows doesnt always like booting from an extended partition but ubuntu doesnt care if it is extended23:49
jonneit's an intel hd 400023:49
escottjonne, what version of ubuntu23:49
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jonnequantal23:49
ActionParsnipjonne: strange, does Precise intall ok?23:49
escottjonne, sorry just saw it. you shouldn't be having any problems or need nomodeset23:49
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SunMoonStarescott: since extended is an extra step, i will not use that23:50
ActionParsnipjonne: tried the safemode VGA (if its still an option)23:50
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SunMoonStarescott: since they are equally fine. makes sense?23:50
SunMoonStarescott: b/c i don't know what's the advantage23:50
escottSunMoonStar, sure. just be aware of the 4 partition limit on logicals, and that you will need a partition for ubuntu swap23:50
OerHeksjonne, answe #7 maybe the solution >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2060762 >>>  change "nomodeset"  to "acpi_osi=windows"23:50
ng0nanyone here built vga plug dongles to run X with no screen ?23:50
Guest8764hola alguien sabe como haker una cuenta de faceboock23:50
jonneit just stopped at stopping systemv runlevel compatibility23:50
WeThePeopleactionparsnip, this is what came up for chromium>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1333562/ i woulnd have a clue what to use23:50
escott!es | Guest876423:51
ubottuGuest8764: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:51
SunMoonStarescott: okay, thanks23:51
paulschreibermy grub menu has many duplicate entries: http://pastebin.com/fPu7JCv9 how do i fix this?23:51
ng0n.2s lag23:51
escottpaulschreiber, i dont see any duplicates23:52
Guest8764Someone knows like hakear an account of faceboock23:52
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: /home/ace/.cache/chromium23:52
escottpaulschreiber, ahhh just keep scrolling ok23:52
jonnetrying with that boot option now23:53
wyclifescott: looks like it's not possible via GRUB123:53
escottwyclif, or at least not easy :)23:53
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: you only needed to search your home folder, we knew it was going to be in there23:53
OerHeksGuest8764, hacking is offtopic23:53
ChotazWhy does Compiz keep crashing after every restart? I just fresh installed ubuntu23:53
ActionParsnipChotaz: are you fully updated?23:53
escottpaulschreiber, looks like you have multiple versions of ubuntu installed. is that correct?23:54
ChotazActionParsnip,  yes sir23:54
wyclifescott: this has been a lesson to me not to let a version go into unsupported without updating :(23:54
ActionParsnipJust to share with all, if you don't have status or status-old in /var/lib/dpkg   you can copy one from /var/backup23:54
paulschreiberecott: no, i just have one ubuntu — 12.1023:55
escottwyclif, still not understanding why you cant get the EOLUpgrades page to load23:55
escottwyclif, that would seem to be the easiest way to do things23:55
ActionParsnipChotaz: which release?23:55
paulschreiberescott: there are no other OSes installed23:55
jonnedoesn't appear to work23:55
scott009n #owncloud23:55
jonnejust got a black screen23:55
escottpaulschreiber, im wondering what could be confusing the os-prober script23:55
WeThePeopleactionparsnip, so i just link to .cache/chromium to tmpfs and it will work??23:55
paulschreiberescott: me too!23:55
ChotazActionParsnip,  12.10, I came back from a really bad case of using "purge"23:55
wyclifescott: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUupgrades ???23:56
paulschreiberescott: my 12.04 -> 12.10 upgrade was botched — the ssh connection died partyway through23:56
escottpaulschreiber, do you have multiple disks? using RAID?23:56
escottwyclif, yes23:56
jonnescrew it, i'll just keep using windows until i can do it at home.23:56
Linkandzeldaguys my window decorations have gone again lol23:56
paulschreiberscott: yes, using software raid (mdadm) 2 disks23:56
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: its a link to a folder23:56
jonnegoogling stuff on my phone isn't too practical23:56
wyclifescott: "This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates"23:56
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: so you will need to make the folder23:57
escottpaulschreiber, i bet thats the issue23:57
escottwyclif, odd. certainly not what i see23:57
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: then make the link to it, add commands in /etc/rc.local to make the same folder and chown to your user at boot23:57
paulschreiberescott: http://pastebin.com/AkvUaDYS that's my mdstat23:57
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escottwyclif, ok now im getting that too. maybe the help.ubuntu.com server is having problems23:57
OerHekswyclif, escott https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades not  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUupgrades ( look at the Uu23:58
wyclifescott: YES, I think you're right about that, because I remember hitting this page earlier today and there was content. Now, nothing but a placeholder23:58
wyclifOerHeks: errm...thanks! ugh... :(((23:58
escottpaulschreiber, so the quick and dirty fix is to remove /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober23:58
escottpaulschreiber, as long as you have no other OSes it won't matter to you23:59
escottOerHeks, thanks for catching that23:59
paulschreiberescott: http://inky.ws/g/2ao23:59

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