[00:00] <Krywk> I can go on...
[00:00] <JimmyNeutron> ActionParsnip: Let me try sudo fsck -y and see what happens.
[00:00] <chaospsychex> Krywk: how are you going to record playthroughs of those on ubuntu? your feeding the video/audio into the ubuntu comp ?
[00:00] <Krywk> I've already managed to record Afraid of Monsters, but just mic.
[00:00] <Krywk> :/
[00:01] <Krywk> I'm using WINE.
[00:01] <chaospsychex> Krywk: what's your youtube channel called?
[00:01] <Krywk> I haven't uploaded anything since I couldn't record the game's audio.
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> JimmyNeutron: you need to specify the partition to test
[00:02] <Krywk> So it would be irrelevant to give you my channel name.
[00:02] <usr13> remu: On behalf of the server, "Flags [P.]" means data being "pushed" or sent.  Dono what to make of it other than the client is just not receiving or ....?
[00:02] <chaospsychex> Krywk: i could be talking to one of the big boys though...
[00:02] <remu> hmm, not sure
[00:02] <Krywk> chaospsychex, nope. I'm not famous and will not be anytime soon. :P
[00:02] <JimmyNeutron> ActionParsnip: Ok.  Let me try that and see if Ubuntu GUI sees my partitions.  I'll let you know shortly.
[00:02] <usr13> remu: Just guessing ... kind of like talking but not listening...?
[00:03] <chaospsychex> Krywk: ok, do you have teamviewer ?
[00:03] <Krywk> Yes, I do.
[00:03] <remu> right right, and that seems to make sense with what the log is saying
[00:03] <remu> that theres no supported protocl
[00:04] <Krywk> Are you going to control my PC and see all my porn gallery? (?)
[00:04] <chaospsychex> Krywk: what's the program called you are using to modify the mixer settings? you said pavucontrol ?
[00:04] <usr13> remu: Well, I don't know, I dont really have much experience troubleshooting samba, I'm mostly done it by trial and error methods, (as I do most projects :)
[00:04] <Krywk> Yep.
[00:04] <remu> lol, thanks for your help usr13, i appreciate it.
[00:05] <chaospsychex> Krywk: one sec
[00:05] <Krywk> kk
[00:06] <JimmyNeutron> ActionParsnip: DIdn't work.  Hmmm..let me just do a clean wipe of the entire HDD and come back in for a 2nd installation and see if I can see my partitions.
[00:06] <usr13> remu: Via process of elemination, it appears to be a client side issue, (but I guess we knew that already).  Not sure what to look for next, (as I'm not much of a MS-Windows expert).
[00:06] <JimmyNeutron> Thanks for helping out ActionParsnip!
[00:06] <usr13> ... not that I'm an expert of any sort ...
[00:07] <remu> usr13, i think it may have something to do with registry settings i may have changed to access the shares for work the other day. i think this router change/issue may just be coincidental
[00:07] <Krywk> remu, NOTHING is coincidental. The devil is inside the router. (?)
[00:08] <remu> lol
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> JimmyNeutron: I try
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[00:10] <johnjacobjingerh> question... i have an existing directory (/var/lib/mythtv) i want to share as a samba directory... it's owned by Root (and cant be changed)
[00:11] <johnjacobjingerh> is it still possible to share this directory?
[00:11] <Krywk> THANK you.
[00:11] <johnjacobjingerh> what permissions should it have so I can write to it
[00:11] <My> i have question, is it possible to run a vmware esxi host on ubuntu ?
[00:11] <johnjacobjingerh> My: vmware ESXi is it's own OS
[00:11] <johnjacobjingerh> so no
[00:11] <johnjacobjingerh> you can run VMware server
[00:12] <My> i want to do few testing
[00:12] <johnjacobjingerh> but VMWare ESXi is literally it's very own OS and is a host OS
[00:12] <Krywk> .seen chaospsychex
[00:12] <johnjacobjingerh> My then  u need a dedicated machine
[00:12] <johnjacobjingerh> or use vmware server
[00:12] <My> just running it on vmware workstation
[00:12] <cnf> or virtualbox
[00:12] <yeats> or kvm
[00:12] <johnjacobjingerh> so u are running vmware esxi inside a virtual machine?
[00:12] <bekks> vmware server is outdated and unsupported - for years now.
[00:12] <My> yep
[00:12] <johnjacobjingerh> bekks yes i know
[00:13] <johnjacobjingerh> My that might be your only way but you're gonna have performance issues
[00:13] <SantaClause> Hello
[00:13] <My> i have enough resource on my machine
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> bekks: bit of a sweeping statement
[00:14] <johnjacobjingerh> My: it's not about your host so much as it is about the capabilities of vmware workstation and other vm products
[00:14] <paulsomebody> bekks: What are you trying to accomplish?
[00:14] <cnf> uhm
[00:14] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Well, the vmware support for "vmware server" was dropped in July 2011.
[00:15] <cnf> esx without vg-x ...
[00:15] <yeats> My: I would personally use KVM if that's an option for you - it's free so if it's not acceptable, you're not out any money
[00:15] <bekks> paulsomebody: Me? Nothing :) I was just commenting on johnjacobjingerh :)
[00:15] <johnjacobjingerh> you MIGHT be ok, but you'll see better performance with a dedicated host
[00:15] <cnf> may? o,O
[00:15] <cnf> ESX needs bare metal
[00:15] <johnjacobjingerh> i still use vmware server
[00:15] <bekks> cnf: Which is not try - you can even virtualize an ESX host :)
[00:15] <bekks> *true
[00:16] <johnjacobjingerh> i am gonna be changing to ESXi tho
[00:16] <cnf> bekks: you can do a lot of things
[00:16] <cnf> bekks: doesn't mean it's a good idea in any shape or form
[00:16] <bekks> cnf: You it doesnt need bare metal, while it is designed to run on bare metal :)
[00:17] <My> yeats: kvm support ESXI ?
[00:17] <yeats> My: no idea, sorry
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> bekks: oh yeah, just checked
[00:17] <lstpswrd> ubuntu 11.04 need to recover passwrd, cant access recovery mody, tried restart several times holding shift and then trying exit, what else ? no disk, can i make one ?
[00:17] <paulsomebody> bkks: Uhhm, okay.
[00:17] <tbruff13> my graphics for kubuntu 12.10 look terrible can someone help me figureout what video driver I am running an help me change it to either the open-source radeon or flgrx
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: what video chip do you use please?
[00:17] <My> johnjacobjingerh : i wanna run esxi 5, i hope vmware server does not supports it
[00:18] <johnjacobjingerh> what?
[00:18] <paulsomebody> Anyway, who was the person experiencing problems with VMware? I have gotten into that sick area recently, so I am sympathetic to your plight and might be able to help.
[00:18] <johnjacobjingerh> vmware server and ESXi are two different things
[00:18] <IdleOne> @bansearch Renski
[00:18] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
[00:18] <johnjacobjingerh> VMware ESXi is a bare bone OS
[00:18] <johnjacobjingerh> and is designed to be run as the host with no other OS
[00:18] <tbruff13> I know it sucks but it worked well enough in 12.04
[00:18] <bekks> ESXi is a level 1 hypervisor.
[00:19] <johnjacobjingerh> yes in technical terms what bekks says
[00:19] <johnjacobjingerh> vmware server requires a host OS to run
[00:19] <johnjacobjingerh> such as ubuntu
[00:19] <AndresSM> *was
[00:19] <AndresSM> it's dead now
[00:19] <johnjacobjingerh> what?
[00:19] <johnjacobjingerh> i didnt say is for vmware server
[00:19] <johnjacobjingerh> i just said it requires
[00:20] <AndresSM> bah had focus on wrong window don't mind me
[00:20] <johnjacobjingerh> i see
[00:20] <My> hmmm
[00:20] <johnjacobjingerh> My: you can run vmware esxi on virtualbox or vmware workstation or whatever virtualizing product you want to use
[00:20] <lstpswrd> password recovery ?
[00:21] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip, can you give me the command to so that the terminal will output what driver is currently in use
[00:21] <cnf> what do you even want to accomplish?
[00:21] <johnjacobjingerh> but you wont see the same performance as you would on a dedicated host
[00:21] <Jisawesome2> When I try to restart apache, it says that it can not reliably determine the server's domain name
[00:21] <paulsomebody> lstpswrd: How did you get there?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: http://ubuntuxtreme.com/howto/how-to-fix-your-amd-graphics-in-ubuntu-12-10/   use the Makarewicz PPA
[00:21] <johnjacobjingerh> cnf: My wants to test VMware esxi
[00:21] <cnf> johnjacobjingerh: how about he answer?
[00:21] <johnjacobjingerh> what?
[00:21] <paulsomebody> lstpswrd: And, most importantly, is your partition encrypted?
[00:22] <AndresSM> johnjacobjingerh: it's actually not that bad with VT enabled but nested vms are pretty slow...
[00:22] <johnjacobjingerh> AndreSM: exactly which means testing it wont be useful for him
[00:22] <AndresSM> johnjacobjingerh: to do some lab work it's good enough
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: seems to affect 2xxx to 4xxx inclusive
[00:22] <johnjacobjingerh> if he wants a good test he should use dedicated hardware... unless he's just learning how to set it up
[00:22] <paulsomebody> lstpswrd: If not, here is an excellent guide. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-forgotten-ubuntu-password-in-2-minutes-or-less/
[00:23] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip, thanks
[00:23] <Jisawesome2> When I try to restart apache, it says that it can not reliably determine the server's domain name
[00:23] <johnjacobjingerh> but not if he is trying to test it's performance
[00:23] <paulsomebody> lstpswrd: If it is encrypted, you are screwed.
[00:23] <johnjacobjingerh> Jisawesome2, that's normakl
[00:23] <johnjacobjingerh> normal*
[00:23] <Jisawesome2> oh, it is?
[00:23] <paulsomebody> lstpswrd: Unless, of course you have wrote down or stored somewhere the passphrase.
[00:23] <johnjacobjingerh> it's cuz you probably dont have a FQDNS
[00:23] <paulsomebody> lstpswrd: Which you should do.
[00:23] <lstpswrd> not sure if encrypted, helping a friend who forgot psswrd been long time since using system
[00:23] <My> johnjacobjingerh: i am planning to set ahome lab for studying
[00:23] <Jisawesome2> I have no idea what that is
[00:23] <johnjacobjingerh> (fully qualified domain name)... you access the PC by either computer name or IP i assume Jisawesome2
[00:23] <lstpswrd> i will try whatever is offered though, thank you
[00:23] <PryMaL> 1kjgkjggkj
[00:24] <AndresSM> My: it works fine if guest performance is not an issue
[00:24] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip, will this ppa make any other system updates unstable and how will i stop the system from trying to update x in the future
[00:24] <AndresSM> My: a lab is most likely about configuration, etc and in that scenario it's good enough inside VMware workstation
[00:24] <johnjacobjingerh> My: but do you want  the most out of the Guest performance
[00:24] <Jisawesome2> ip, you are correct
[00:24] <Jisawesome2> cDoes it still update?
[00:24] <johnjacobjingerh> yea what AndresSM said
[00:25] <johnjacobjingerh> lstpswrd, what OS?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: should be fine, its a known issue
[00:25] <johnjacobjingerh> lstpswrd, is he using Ubuntu?
[00:25] <tbruff13> ActionParsnip, bottom line my laptop is a pos and i need a new one
[00:25] <tbruff13> but alas no money
[00:26] <lstpswrd> he is using ubuntu yes
[00:26] <paulsomebody> lstpswrd: If he does not have an idea, then it is probably not encypted.
[00:26] <johnjacobjingerh> lstpswrd, i cant exactly remember how do it from the CD, but you can do it from single-user mode
[00:26] <johnjacobjingerh> paulsomebody, that's not true
[00:26] <Krywk> Is there any program that reproduces what you're speaking on your phone?
[00:26] <Krywk> microphone*
[00:26] <lstpswrd> its not allowing me to access the recovery after the grub screen, im not even seeing grub screen
[00:26] <Jisawesome2> Dragon dictation
[00:26] <My>  johnjacobjingerh: my hardwae is of i5 cpu & 8gb ddr3 ram, it good enough to run 2 esxi host of 2 gb ram and vcenter server of 1gb ram, all the vm runs with 2 vcpu :)
[00:26] <Krywk> I mean, live.
[00:27] <cnf> my: 2 ESX hosts?
[00:27] <johnjacobjingerh> My: but you're missing the fact that you have an overhead
[00:27] <cnf> My: why?
[00:27] <My> it worked well with windows7 on vmware workstation
[00:27] <johnjacobjingerh> well then you got your answer :-P
[00:27] <paulsomebody> johnjacobjingerh: lstpswrd: It is my feeling that people who have no idea are usually too lazy to enter password every time they login.
[00:27] <johnjacobjingerh> what?
[00:27] <johnjacobjingerh> how does that mean his drive is encrypted?
[00:28] <johnjacobjingerh> it most likely isnt encrypted
[00:28] <johnjacobjingerh> unless he encrypted it
[00:28] <paulsomebody> johnjacobjingerh: That WAS the point.
[00:28] <My> cnf: 2 esxi for making a HA & DRS cluster
[00:28] <cnf> o,O
[00:28] <lstpswrd> personally i use a set of passwords that i know well. i have the instructions on how to reset the password but i cant get into the recovery screen
[00:28]  * cnf facepalms
[00:28] <johnjacobjingerh> oh i missed what you were saying paulsomebody
[00:28] <AndresSM> cnf: it's a basic lab not huge
[00:29] <AndresSM> My: you should be fine
[00:29] <johnjacobjingerh> lstpswrd, is ubuntu the ONLY os on that machine?
[00:29] <lstpswrd> i have held the escape key during reboot, i tried the shift key, i tried from restart mode and from total shutdown mode
[00:29] <lstpswrd> yes it it, i asked him that
[00:29] <My> AndresSM: yep let me check it out :)
[00:29] <My> thank you all
[00:29] <johnjacobjingerh> hmmm
[00:29] <johnjacobjingerh> shift should do it
[00:29] <Krywk> Uh, hello?
[00:30] <johnjacobjingerh> re you holding it down from the begining
[00:30] <Krywk> I need a program that reproduces what you're saying, live.
[00:30] <lstpswrd> sorry everyone, paul should i pm in seperate window about this if your willing to help
[00:30] <lstpswrd> i tried shift
[00:30] <johnjacobjingerh> Kryk: Audacity
[00:30] <lstpswrd> holding from beginning, then tapping it
[00:30] <paulsomebody> Yeah, go ahead and PM me.
[00:30] <lstpswrd> tried both shift keys
[00:30] <Krywk> Audacity reproduces on-the-fly?
[00:30] <johnjacobjingerh> hmmmm....
[00:31] <Krywk> Also you can just type in Kry and press Tab.
[00:31] <johnjacobjingerh> Krywk, yes if you enable the monitor
[00:31] <johnjacobjingerh> it will play back as you're speaking
[00:31] <Krywk> Well, that didn't work.
[00:32] <johnjacobjingerh> what do u mean it didnt work?
[00:32] <johnjacobjingerh> are u sure your mic works then?
[00:32] <Krywk> I mean, I want to record system audio AND mic audio.
[00:32] <Krywk> But it just plainly doesn't detect my mic.
[00:32] <Krywk> I have to enable it.
[00:32] <Krywk> But that will disable system audio recording.
[00:32] <Krywk> I want both.
[00:32] <Krywk> :/
[00:32] <FloodBot1> Krywk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:32] <Krywk> Whoops. :/
[00:33] <johnjacobjingerh> krywk can u add a secnd track in audacity and bond it to the microphone in put
[00:33] <johnjacobjingerh> input*
[00:33] <johnjacobjingerh> second*
[00:33] <Krywk> I think, yea
[00:33] <johnjacobjingerh> then perhaps that will work
[00:33] <johnjacobjingerh> it can record two tracks at once
[00:34] <johnjacobjingerh> i've never recorded system sound with audacity
[00:34] <Krywk> It doesn't detect audio
[00:35] <Krywk> Wait
[00:38] <Linkandzelda> is it possible to use 2 docks on 12.10 or to completly disable the unity dock and use a different dock?
[00:39] <_MrSeb_> someone expert in loop device? I need to shrink to min size a file with ext3 file system inside; alnerady mounted file as loop, used resize2fs -M, but I don't know how to shrink container file...
[00:40] <Krywk> It only lets me record a few miliseconds.
[00:40] <Krywk> then it stops.
[00:40] <Krywk> :/
[00:41] <GridCube> !info xterm
[00:41] <GridCube> is optional
[00:41] <Krywk> johnjacobjingerh
[00:42] <johnjacobjingerh> yes?
[00:43] <johnjacobjingerh> i dunno why it doesnt work Krywk
[00:43] <johnjacobjingerh> sounds like an issue with audacity
[00:44] <myersg> how to I set file limites to users on ubuntu server
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Grimdin: its in a default install though
[00:44] <myersg> I only want the users to access there home dir, and thats it.
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> myersg: look into quotas
[00:45] <myersg> can you help me do that?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> myersg: oh, then just chmod the home folder to a-rwx   and you are golden
[00:45] <myersg> can you give an example?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> myersg: this means that only the user whom owns the folder can access the data
[00:45] <litt3lboy> Hello sexy boys
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> myersg: they will need read access and sometimes execute access to the rest of the OS so that it can use apps
[00:46] <myersg> so how do I do it?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> myersg: sudo chmod -R o-rwx /home/username
[00:47] <myersg> so what will that do?
[00:48] <myersg> now it can't add files to the users file?
[00:49] <myersg> I think it works now, thank you.
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> myersg: only the owner of the folder (and root, and users whom can use sudo) will have access to the folder in any way, they will not even be able to access the folder to see the files themselves
[00:50] <nabam> heyh, has anybody gotten the error "Secure boot not enabled" when trying to boot from 12.10 on a newer i5 laptop?  Mine specifically is the acer travel mate
[00:50] <myersg> how do I make it to were that user cannot have sudo?
[00:51] <blackshirt> myserg, i think you very paranoid people :d
[00:52] <Zigzag> Hello!
[00:52] <Zigzag> can I please get help?
[00:52] <Zigzag> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330696/ what is wrong witht his
[00:52] <Zigzag> with*
[00:52] <myersg> I know the people that will use it.. trust me, they will mess it up if I don't block them from files. I.E, keep them in there box.
[00:52] <FloodBot1> Zigzag: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:53] <myersg> how can I make it that a user cant use sudo?
[00:54] <fffff> don't add the user to wheel group, maybe?
[00:54] <jo-Br> Hi guys
[00:55] <stef0> hi =)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> myersg: don't add them to the sudo group, or admin
[00:55] <Linkandzelda> how can I set the transparency of the window decorations in 12.10?
[00:55] <myersg> how do I remove them from it?
[00:55] <nabam> myersg, who's in your wheel group?
[00:55] <myersg> idk
[00:55] <nabam> type groups in terminal
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> myersg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/80115/how-to-remove-a-user-from-a-group
[00:56] <myersg> it says root
[00:56] <nabam> sorry, I was confused, follow ActionParsnip's link
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> myersg: then you need to run:  groups name
[00:56] <bandit-led> i keep loosing my usb kyb and mouse and have to hard reset or ssh in and restart to get them to work again
[00:57] <bandit-led> any ideas?
[00:57] <Zigzag> HM
[00:57] <Zigzag> Hmm well I posted my link guys http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330696/ ideas?
[00:59] <Robbilie> hey guys is jono bacon travelling around here? :)
[00:59] <jono> hey Robbilie
[00:59] <Robbilie> :D
[01:00] <Robbilie> just sent you an email ;)
[01:00] <Robbilie> :D
[01:00] <Robbilie> rschuh
[01:00] <myersg> also, I need to know, but first is there anyone here from the u.s here?
[01:00] <Robbilie> nope
[01:00] <Robbilie> germany...
[01:00] <jono> Robbilie, np
[01:00] <JohnnyBoy> im using ubuntu 12.10 32bit, google earth crashes on me and so does braid the video game
[01:00] <myersg> I need to know do clocks go back tonight?
[01:00] <myersg> So, I can change my time on ubuntu
[01:00] <teff> has anyone experienced a nasty inverted screen installing 12.10 64 bit on a dekstop with an nvidia card?
[01:01] <Robbilie> on a pc in school i have a strange problem when you start talkling bout screens..
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyBoy: what video chip do you use?
[01:01] <JohnnyBoy> it must be an ati im not sure
[01:02] <Robbilie> jono if you want you can answer my mail here in irc ;)
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyBoy: sudo lshw -C display     will tell you
[01:02] <jono> Robbilie, I will respond next week
[01:02] <jono> I am a bit busy right now
[01:02] <Robbilie> sure ;)
[01:03] <Robbilie> always wondering how i am able to get that fast in contact with that famous/busy people :D
[01:03] <JohnnyBoy> ActionParsnip:  PCI (sysfs)
[01:03] <JohnnyBoy> i know i have an ati raedeon
[01:03] <inflex> Have a system about 150km away, upgraded from 12.04 -> 12.10.  Was running Cinnamon before and doing fine.  Now when it boots to the lightdm login screen it comes up but you cannot interact, no clicks work.  ctrl-alt-Fn works and you can fire up startx with it, but the normal desktop isn't there (likely because of the lack of the cinnamon wm)
[01:03] <inflex> Anyhow, how can I try install/reinstall the lightdm situation so it actually works and lets me login normally?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyBoy: wait, it will say. Your PCI bus is slow
[01:05] <Linkandzelda> how do i restart nautilus?
[01:05] <JohnnyBoy>  <ActionParsnip>  i get alot of lines...heres one line  product: RS880 [Radeon HD 4200]
[01:06] <Robbilie> Linkandselde kill it and start it ? :D
[01:06] <Robbilie> Linkandzelda kill it and start it?
[01:06] <bandit-led> killall nautilus
[01:06] <Robbilie> :D
[01:06] <Robbilie> pkill would work too i guess...?
[01:06] <JohnnyBoy> ActionParsnip:  heres the pastebin  http://pastebin.com/2hqDwvFi
[01:06] <Linkandzelda> Robbilie: thanks, did that but what i needed to do it for failed
[01:06] <Linkandzelda> im trying to make my window titles transparent
[01:07] <Robbilie> what are you trying to achieve?
[01:07] <bandit-led> Linkandzelda,  killall nautilus
[01:07] <Robbilie> ah
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyBoy: what is the product line please, I can't view pastebins using the connection I have
[01:08] <Zigzag> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330696/
[01:08] <Zigzag> Hello
[01:09] <blackshirt> hello zigzag
[01:09] <Zigzag> blackshirt so what do I do?
[01:09] <Robbilie> guys i have an issue, i guess its quite simple...
[01:09] <JohnnyBoy> ActionParsnip: product: RS880 [Radeon HD 4200]
[01:09] <Zigzag> I have never seen the p4p1
[01:09] <Robbilie> i had a setup with two screen (nvidia graphics and now i removed one screen
[01:09] <Zigzag> blackshirt its pretty easy before I did eth0 and eth1 but, its not there
[01:10] <blackshirt> zigzag,i'm sit on handheld devices and couldn't follow your link given,maybe describe your problem here
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyBoy: under Ubuntu 12.10?
[01:10] <Robbilie> now the cursor is limited to vertical movement and it seems that it didnt recognize the second screen missing..
[01:10] <Zigzag> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
[01:10] <Zigzag> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
[01:10] <Zigzag> # The loopback network interface
[01:10] <JohnnyBoy> yes sir ActionParsnip
[01:10] <Zigzag> auto lo
[01:10] <Zigzag> iface lo inet loopback
[01:10] <FloodBot1> Zigzag: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:10] <Zigzag> # The primary network interface
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyBoy: http://ubuntuxtreme.com/howto/how-to-fix-your-amd-graphics-in-ubuntu-12-10/  use the Makarewicz PPA in the middle of the page
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyBoy: http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[01:12] <draugon> Hello, I'm installing 12.10, I created partitions and then installed, and everything seems to install fine, until the installer tries to install grub. I get 'Sorry, an error occurred and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location" so I opened up a terminal and try sudo grub-install /dev/mapper/isw_dcibhdjcae_raid2tb and I get "Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible.
[01:12] <draugon> Aborting." I have two 1tb drives setup with fakeraid and am installing alongside windows. not sure where to go from here.
[01:13] <jrib> draugon: first step is to checksum your cd
[01:13] <toastcfh>  might just quit
[01:14] <JohnnyBoy> thank you ActionParsnip that was fast
[01:14] <draugon> jrib: k, I'll let you know
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyBoy: i've seen the issue a lot in here so I know what to search for
[01:14] <jrib> draugon: if you're confident it's just grub failing to install for whatever reason, you need to pass --boot-directory to grub-install (since /boot/grub is for the live cd)
[01:16] <draugon> jrib: md5sum matches the cd, and I verified the cd when I burned it.
[01:17] <JohnnyBoy> ActionParsnip: wont doing all this ruin future upgrade to fglrx and xorg
[01:17] <draugon> jrib: md5sum matches the cd IMAGE I mean
[01:17] <draugon> jrib: ah, ok, so I mount the drive and pass the --boot-directory to the mounted location... ok. Thanks I'll let you know how it goes. :)
[01:19] <jrib> draugon: also see notes here about raid: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop
[01:19] <JohnnyBoy> ActionParsnip: ima reboot and see how things go thanks
[01:21] <cornell> Can anyone at least tell me what the windows popping about "feature" is called?
[01:21] <draugon> jrib: aha, install worked after I mounted and passed the --boot-directory flag to grub-install. gonna see if it boots up. If it does I probably won't be back. Thanks a ton for your help :)
[01:22] <jrib> draugon: hope I don't see you then :)
[01:24] <tomreyn> cornell: what are you referring to (i'm lacking backlog)?
[01:25] <TheLordOfTime> tomreyn:  i don't see any other backlogs relating to this, btw.  just to let you know.
[01:25] <tomreyn> thanks
[01:28] <cornell> tomreyn: I've upgraded from 10 to 12.04 and was sorely unhappy with Unity and am using Gnome Classic.  Windows tend to pop around.  When I shift a window partly onto another workspace and click on something else, the window pops back.  Some applications, the window pops down to the bottom of the screen for no apparent reason.  And if I drag a window to close to the top, it's resized to full height, top to bottom (and it's a bit hard to
[01:29] <cornell> (2 hours 12 minutes ago, I'd mentioned the same stuff)
[01:29] <tomreyn> cornell: this was cut iff behind: (and it's a bit hard t
[01:29] <Linkandzelda> anyone got experieince reading and browsing time machine backups?
[01:30] <cornell> tomreyn: "tomreyn: cornell: this was cut iff behind: (and it's a bit hard t" ?
[01:30] <tomreyn> cornell: i've never tried gnome classic on 12.04, though, so chances are i won't be able to help other than suggesting you file bug reports.
[01:31] <tomreyn> cornell: yes that's what i just said to you
[01:31] <cornell> I'd like to be able to describe it more tersely, perhaps refer to it by name.
[01:31] <Jordan_U> jrib: I need to leave, but if draugon comes back saying that they only got a grub prompt at boot, can you explain to them that they need to pass the path to the /boot/ directory to grub-install's --boot-directory argument (eg if they mounted their root filesystem at /mnt/ it should be --boot-directory=/mnt/boot/ not just --boot-directory=/mnt/).
[01:32] <cornell> Yes, tomreyn, and "this was cut iff behind: (and it's a bit hard t" makes no sense to me.
[01:32] <jrib> Jordan_U: will do
[01:32] <Jordan_U> jrib: Thanks.
[01:32] <cornell> Was it truncated, or ... something?
[01:32] <tomreyn> cornell: yes, what you wrote when quoting yourself from earlier today was truncated
[01:33] <Jordan_U> jrib: They may also need to chroot in and run update-grub if the installer didn't create a grub.cfg before it failed.
[01:33] <cornell> Well, I didn't quote myself, just typed again.
[01:33] <peacock> !ot
[01:34] <tomreyn> cornell: okay, but this is still incomplete then:  "And if I drag a window to close to the top, it's resized to full height, top to bottom (and it's a bit hard t"
[01:34] <cornell> And I'm guessing that it's not a bug but someone's idea of a "feature".  Especially the bit about resizing the window.
[01:34] <cornell> Ah...  If I drag a window to close to the top, it's resized to full height, top to bottom (and it's a bit hard to undo).
[01:35] <tomreyn> cornell: i guess your best bet is to run ubuntu-bug on the package you suspect may be buggy, then add a descrition of the problem first, then re-read what you wrote for the long description and summarise it as the bug reports' title
[01:35] <cornell> Very similar to a new feature in Windows 7.  The assumption that if you have the top of a window at the top of the screen, you must also want the bottom at the bottom.
[01:36] <cornell> The package woud be ... gnome-shell ?
[01:37] <cornell> Pardon me while I figure out about ubuntu-bug.
[01:37] <tomreyn> cornell: actually now your description is complete it sounds more like you'Re running into a design choice you don't like. this may not make sense to report as a bug then,
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> cornell: if you want to report a bug with gnome-shell run:  ubuntu-bug gnome-shell
[01:38] <cornell> I'm hoping it's a "design choice" that I can unchoose ;-)
[01:39] <tomreyn> i wouldn't know. you can try with a wishlist bug
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> cornell: disable the grid plugin and the 'aero snap' feature will turn off, is that what you are having issue with?
[01:40] <cornell> mmm... aero snap... sounds like that could be it, ActionParsnip.  How to disable the grid plugin?
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> cornell: run:   ccsm   and disable it
[01:40] <Medjai> I know when ubuntu is installed clean-ubiquity runs and saves a copy of the MBR, where is that saved?
[01:43] <cornell> Having a good time tonight... "The program 'ccsm' is currently not installed."  It also seems to be a part of compiz.  Is compiz part of 12.04, or gnome-shell?  I don't recall installing it.
[01:45] <ja-s> I have a filesystem in my /etc/fstab with the option "users", but a user can no longer mount it, it requires root
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> cornell: it needs installing but you can disable the feature there. I hate it
[01:46] <ja-s> why is that?
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> ja-s: isn't the option: user    not users
[01:47] <tomreyn> yes singular
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> ja-s: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> ja-s: so that's why ;)
[01:48] <tomreyn> but IIRC there is some file system which has 'users' (pl.) as a filesystem specific option
[01:50] <tomreyn> mount(8) The non-superuser mounts. "Only the user  that  mounted  a filesystem  can unmount it again.  If any user should be able to unmount, then use users instead of user in the fstab line."
[01:50] <johnjacobjinger> why is it that when i use Youtube in ubuntu the mouse doesnt disappear but in my windows machine it does
[01:50] <johnjacobjinger> something to do with the flash player?
[01:51] <Linkandzelda> does everyone here use Unity with the launcher on the left? or are you using some other setup?
[01:51] <cornell> In ccsm, I filtered for "grid plugin", no hit.  Filtered for "grid" and got one hit, "Grid" oddly enough.  The alternate text says "Warp and resize windows to fit an imaginary grid".
[01:51] <cornell> That certainly sounds like it, right?
[01:51] <johnjacobjinger> Linkandzelda, i hate unity... i just use classic gnome
[01:52] <cornell> I second that johnjacobjinger
[01:52] <PatrickC|Cleanin> if I'm going to be installing Ubuntu alongside of Windows, does the installer disk still include the option to resize the Windows partitoiin?
[01:52] <PatrickC|Cleanin> partition*
[01:52] <PatrickC|Cleanin> or should i resize it manually within windows
[01:52] <Linkandzelda> johnjacobjinger: is that so, i like the dash thing on Unity quite a bit...
[01:52] <johnjacobjinger> PatrickC|Cleanin, i think it's dynamic
[01:52] <PatrickC|Cleanin> johnjacobjinger: so i should be able to just use the installation media (live DVD) to do it?
[01:52] <johnjacobjinger> Linkandzelda, well it gets in the way of mythtv and i use mythtv
[01:53] <johnjacobjinger> umm no PatrickC|Cleanin ...
[01:53] <johnjacobjinger> it doesnt partition it
[01:53] <johnjacobjinger> it just creates a folder on your windows drive called ubuntu
[01:53] <johnjacobjinger> and somehow it boots from that
[01:53] <PatrickC|Cleanin> Na, i don't want to do that.
[01:53] <PatrickC|Cleanin> That's WUBI :)
[01:53] <johnjacobjinger> it's like a viertual HardDrive
[01:53] <johnjacobjinger> oh
[01:53] <johnjacobjinger> i see
[01:53] <FloodBot1> johnjacobjinger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:53] <PatrickC|Cleanin> I want to do a true dualboot
[01:54] <johnjacobjinger> yes u can resize if you use the installation DVD (has gparted on the disk)
[01:54] <Jordan_U> PatrickC|Cleanin: Yes, just run the installer and let it resize the Windows partition for you.
[01:54] <johnjacobjinger> u can do it from the live cd
[01:54] <PatrickC|Cleanin> thanks Jordan_U
[01:54] <Jordan_U> PatrickC|Cleanin: You're welcome.
[01:55] <tomreyn> does gparted support resizing ntfs partitions then?
[01:55] <cornell> mmm, in Window Management, there's a "Snapping Windows", tip says "Enables windows edges resistance".  I wonder what "edges resistance" is.
[01:55] <Linkandzelda> johnjacobjinger: is it possible to run 2 docks at the same time?
[01:55] <tomreyn> that's ntfs of all versions of windows
[01:55] <bandit-led> tomreyn, yes
[01:55] <tomreyn> i meant to say file systems, not partitions
[01:55] <bandit-led> tomreyn,  but always backup first
[01:55] <johnjacobjinger> Linkandzelda, beats me like i said I dont use unity
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> ja-s: all ok now?
[01:56] <johnjacobjinger> i only use classic
[01:56] <Linkandzelda> johnjacobjinger: hmm ok then
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> tomreyn: you can resize ntfs in gparted, if you use Win7 I'd do it in WIn7
[01:56] <bandit-led> Linkandzelda, what you trying to do?
[01:57] <johnjacobjinger> i hate windows disk management
[01:57] <tomreyn> ActionParsnip: i don't use windows, i was wondering whether it's possible because someone lelse wanted to know.
[01:57] <johnjacobjinger> annoying
[01:57] <iamzim> Hey, quick question! I want to join an ubuntu desktop client to an Active directory server, should i go the Likewise-open route or is there a better way of going about it (samba + winbind?)
[01:57] <tomreyn> this someone else was PatrickC|Cleanin
[01:57] <Linkandzelda> bandit-led: not sure, i just wanted initially to move the unity dock to the bottom... but im wondering if that isnt possible if i can use 2 docks, like have AWN installed as well, if that makes sense lol
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> tomreyn: gotcha
[01:58] <johnjacobjinger> i use winbind for that iamzim
[01:58] <johnjacobjinger> with samba
[01:58] <bandit-led> Linkandzelda,  you might want to try gnome classic for what you are talking about
[01:58] <johnjacobjinger> i've never heard of likewise
[01:58] <Linkandzelda> bandit-led: is it better than gnome 3.6?
[01:58] <bandit-led> it is gnome 3.6
[01:58] <johnjacobjinger> it just doesnt have unity
[01:58] <johnjacobjinger> unity is annoying as hell imo
[01:58] <bandit-led> its like old gnome
[01:58] <iamzim> johnjacobjinger: ok cool, so does it allow for gui login aswell?
[01:59] <bandit-led> i use only gnome-classic so its what i like
[01:59] <bandit-led> well on live systems i use unity but thats not often
[01:59] <Predictability> hi
[01:59] <iamzim> johnjacobjinger: it seems to be a much simpler way of joining an domain
[01:59] <johnjacobjinger> iamzim: yes....
[01:59] <johnjacobjinger> thats the point
[01:59] <Predictability> a domain*
[02:00] <Linkandzelda> bandit-led: i see, might have to look into trying that out
[02:00] <iamzim> johnjacobjinger: righto, just checking ;)
[02:00] <bandit-led> Linkandzelda, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[02:00] <iamzim> Predictability: thanks :p
[02:00] <bandit-led> you can install it and choose what window manager you want on login
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda: just install gnome-panel log off and log in to the new session
[02:01] <Predictability> your welcome :D
[02:01] <bandit-led> try them all and pick the one you want
[02:01] <Predictability> is this a reddit cat?
[02:01] <Predictability> chat*
[02:01] <Predictability> but a cat is fine
[02:01] <johnjacobjinger> Predictability, ummm no.. this is a ubuntu support channel
[02:01] <rephy222> its kinda ridiculous how many dependencies there are just for a simple clock
[02:01] <Predictability> oh, sorry.  i came here because /r/ubuntu gave a link, i thought this was a reddit chat
[02:01] <Predictability> sorry!
[02:02] <mjc_> nps
[02:02] <johnjacobjinger> Predictability, if you dont have a ubuntu related question or if you arent here to offer ubuntu support then this isnt where you want to be
[02:03] <bandit-led> pred left above your statement johnjacobjinger
[02:03] <johnjacobjinger> oh haha
[02:03] <johnjacobjinger> missed that completely
[02:03] <net_runner007> hey does anyone know how to make VLC play my dvds?
[02:03] <johnjacobjinger> net_runner007, Yes...
[02:03] <Jordan_U> !dvd | net_runner007
[02:04] <net_runner007> thanks yall
[02:04] <johnjacobjinger> click the "media" menu item and click open disc
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> rephy222: what clock are you getting?
[02:04] <tomreyn> or4n: vlc dvd://
[02:05] <rephy222> the basic one that comes with ubuntu
[02:05] <tomreyn> umm sorry or4n, i hit a nasty tab expansion bug in xchat there
[02:05] <rephy222> autoremove removed it for some reason
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> rephy222: well it is an indicator, so you'll need all the indicator goodies
[02:06] <Linkandzelda> bandit-led: I'm worried that something might mess up if i switch lol
[02:06] <rephy222> ic
[02:06] <johnjacobjinger> Linkandzelda, no u wont mess it up
[02:06] <rephy222> i reinstalled it but i dont c it
[02:06] <johnjacobjinger> Linkandzelda, u can always go back by selecting it in the login menu
[02:07] <myersg> I tried to boot into ubuntu, but it took me to this: BusyBox v1.18.5 (Ubuntu 1:1.18.5) built in shell ash Enter 'help for a list of built0in commands
[02:07] <johnjacobjinger> it doesnt remove unity just adds gnome classic to the session menu
[02:07] <Linkandzelda> hmm
[02:07] <bandit-led> been using it since gnome 3 came out with no problems
[02:08] <bandit-led> i am using it right now as a matter of fact
[02:08] <myersg> what do I do?
[02:08] <rephy222> for some reason i cant get it to show up in the menu bar
[02:08] <puff> I'm troubleshooting an ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS box, it's got the whole thin client thing going on, has four extra screens attached.
[02:09] <puff> When it reboots, it doesn't get on the network. If I log into one of the terminals, su to this admin account they setup (has sudo privs) and do "sudo dhclient eth2", it gets right on the network and everything works fine.
[02:09] <puff> Now, I could just write out the instructions for the linux-illiterate folks to do this when I'm not here, but I'd rather fix the problem... any ideas?
[02:10] <tomreyn> myersg: that's usually because your root file system (the one which should get mounted to / ) could not be mounted. this can happen for various reasons, here's what comes to mind: an ubuntu installation failed/is incomplete, the file system is broken, your raid is out of synch.
[02:10] <johnjacobjinger> now so it's not getting IP at startup?
[02:10] <johnjacobjinger> puff: err... i assume it's  not getting an ip on startup?
[02:11] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Yes, that's what appears to be the case.
[02:11] <myersg> This happends every time i try to install ubuntu or anyother linux os on the computer
[02:11] <rephy222> so is the residual config stuff supposed to be installed
[02:12] <myersg> oh wait, This harddrive came out of another computer with ubuntu working fine, I put it on this computer and it does it still...
[02:12] <myersg> I know the installation is fine
[02:12] <johnjacobjinger> puff: does your network config have this for eth2:   auto eth2
[02:12] <johnjacobjinger> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[02:13] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Doesn't have anyhting for eth2.
[02:13] <johnjacobjinger> then that might be the issue
[02:13] <puff> johnjacobjinger: /etc/network/interfaces contains "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback"
[02:13] <tomreyn> myersg: so its failing since you added this drive?
[02:13] <johnjacobjinger> then u have to create one for eth2
[02:13] <puff> Weird, supposedly this was all working and the problem just started this morning.
[02:13] <wallythemoose> Question: I replaced a raid array in windows with a 3tb seagate hard drive, since Ubuntu was not playing well with the software raid. Normally Ubuntu would see an NTFS partition fine, but when I copied the data over to the new 3tb drive in windows, I had to initialize the drive as GPT, instead of MBR. As a result, Ubuntu fails to see a 3tb (more like 2.7tb) NTFS partition, it shows as unallocated. Is there any trick to getting
[02:13] <johnjacobjinger> perhaps it changed?
[02:13] <myersg> ...its not the harddrive, I took it out of another computer and it worked fine before, I was testing to see if it was the hard drive it is not
[02:14] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Is there anywhere else to look, other than /etc/network/interfaces?>
[02:14] <johnjacobjinger> no
[02:14] <myersg> anytime I try to install linux on the computer it does this..no mater what
[02:14] <johnjacobjinger> thats where it would be
[02:14] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Hm, well, nothing /etc/network has a recent modificaiton date. However, dmesg has some interesting bits. Hangon.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> wallythemoose: The problem is that it's using GPT (Ubuntu supports GPT just fine) the problem is that the partition table is invalid.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> wallythemoose: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[02:15] <johnjacobjinger> puff try to put the eth2 config in there just to see if it works
[02:15] <johnjacobjinger> if it doesnt u can always remove it
[02:15] <myersg> could the graphics do this, I install ubuntu server and it works fine on the computer
[02:15] <puff> johnjacobjinger: http://pastebin.com/b6P3EwEP
[02:16] <puff> johnjacobjinger: I don't get what's up with that renaming eth0 to eth2...
[02:16] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Cool, will try adding an eth2 config line.
[02:17] <johnjacobjinger> puff: look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[02:17] <johnjacobjinger> tell me what the mac address is for eth2
[02:17] <johnjacobjinger> and eth0
[02:17] <Linkandzelda> is there a way I can enable writing to hfs+ drives?
[02:17] <wallythemoose> Jordan_U: pastebin.com/P6P6QQgr
[02:17] <Jordan_U> Linkandzelda: Only by disabling journaling on the filesystem.
[02:17] <johnjacobjinger> is eth0 the MAC for ETH2?
[02:18] <Linkandzelda> Jordan_U: I have a HFS+ drive, how can I do that? without losing data as well? xD
[02:18] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Checking.
[02:18] <stormdead> hi
[02:18] <puff> johnjacobjinger: No, they have different ATTR{address} values.
[02:18] <stormdead> im having some troubles with my laptop, I'm getting permission denied errors when I start up
[02:19] <Jordan_U> wallythemoose: Note there the error "Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!" which means that one of your disks has an entry in the partition table saying that a partition ends past the actual end of the disk.
[02:19] <puff> johnjacobjinger: http://pastebin.com/UFgx6373
[02:20] <wallythemoose> Jordan_U: Is it possible that windows did not create the partition table correctly and I should do it from gparted instead?
[02:20] <Jordan_U> wallythemoose: I've been seeing a lot of those recently, but I have no idea what tool is doing such a silly thing. Do you have any idea how your partition table might have become invalid in this way? Did you use any odd partitioning tools?
[02:20] <barcode> Is there anything I can set in ubuntu which will force my cpu to work slower so it doesn't heat up as much?
[02:20] <wallythemoose> Jordan_U: I used windows 7 built in partition manager
[02:20] <barcode> I want to keep the temprature down.
[02:20] <wallythemoose> It needed GPT for anything over 2tb
[02:21] <stormdead> whenever i try to turn on my laptop, i get these error messages: http://pastebin.com/jAQ4SK93
[02:21] <stormdead> can anyone help?
[02:21] <barcode> can anyone help?
[02:21] <Jordan_U> wallythemoose: Very odd and surprising then. The utility "fixparts" should fix your partition table for you: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[02:22] <stormdead> is there any way to fix this without reinstalling?
[02:22] <wallythemoose> Jordan_U: thanks, I will try that.
[02:22] <Jordan_U> wallythemoose: You're welcome.
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> barcode: try a lighter desktop like LXDE :)
[02:23] <stormdead> sorry about that
[02:24] <johnjacobjinger> puff try to add what i said to the network config file
[02:24] <johnjacobjinger> and restart networking
[02:24] <barcode> ActionParsnip: okay.
[02:24] <johnjacobjinger> then see if it works
[02:24] <johnjacobjinger> just out of curiosity
[02:24] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Okay, cool.
[02:26] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Didn't fix it.
[02:27] <johnjacobjinger> puff i dunno then :-(
[02:27] <johnjacobjinger> sorry
[02:27] <johnjacobjinger> both of those files look right
[02:27] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Okay... weird.
[02:28] <johnjacobjinger> puff is this a PXE server?
[02:28] <puff> johnjacobjinger: hm, is there any way I can schedule a cron job to run dhclient?
[02:28] <puff> PXE?
[02:28] <johnjacobjinger> then prob not
[02:28] <johnjacobjinger> i thought u said  it was a thin client
[02:28] <johnjacobjinger> or u were using thin clients
[02:29] <johnjacobjinger> yes there prob is a way to use cronjob to run dhclient
[02:29] <Linkandzelda> ActionParsnip: what should I do after installing gnome-panel?
[02:30] <johnjacobjinger> also puff try to determine if eth2 is indeed the correct mac address and it's not attaching to a different card
[02:30] <puff> Well, I have four ACER lcd screens that apepar to be self-contained (presumably lightweight) PCs.
[02:30] <johnjacobjinger> puff do they have OSes installed on each? or do they boot from a server?
[02:31] <puff> Well, when I reboot the server they all turn off and when it comes back on, they all turn back on and present a login screen.
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda: log off then select the new session from the ubuntu logo near your usernae
[02:32] <blendedbychris> has java jre been removed from the partner repo?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> blendedbychris: yes but there is a PPA if you want Oracle Java....
[02:33] <blendedbychris> ActionParsnip: okay no problem. i was just making sure i wasn't using a ppa if it was in partner
[02:33] <puff> johnjacobjinger: I'm not sure I get the question about eth2... dhclient is getting a connection for eth2.
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> blendedbychris: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[02:33] <johnjacobjinger> yea but after it renames
[02:33] <johnjacobjinger> puff i want to make sure the MAC address in that rules file is correct
[02:34] <puff> Hm, hang on a sec.
[02:34] <johnjacobjinger> or if eth0 has the MAC for eth 2 instead of what it should be
[02:34] <johnjacobjinger> i dunno if you can tell tho
[02:34] <johnjacobjinger> without looking at your network switch or something
[02:34] <memetic> I get unknown command linux16 when attempting to run memtestx86 from grub.
[02:34] <memetic> What's that all about?
[02:34] <johnjacobjinger> it doesnt know the command
[02:34] <johnjacobjinger> thats what it's about
[02:35] <cornell> Well, I was in the midst of investigating ccsm window management.  Found a site that suggested, instead of unchecking grid, going into it and setting the auto resize actions to None.  I was in the midst of that when things froze.  Couldn't get any response.  Tried ctl-alt-delete, ctl-prtscn-k and super-.... something.  Anyway nothing appeared to happen, so I stepped away.
[02:35] <memetic> How to fix?
[02:35] <johnjacobjinger> thats about as far as my expertise goes memetic
[02:35] <johnjacobjinger> sorry
[02:35] <memetic> Yeah, well, my question was more a thinly veiled rant about how that happens in the first place so we're both good, john.
[02:36] <johnjacobjinger> brb Puff
[02:36] <memetic> smokey smokey cancer
[02:36] <cornell> When I returned, it was shutting down.  It had stopped to ask if I wanted to save a document.  I did and allowed it to continue... Then I got a blank monitor and a lot of hard drive activity.  Now, a blank monitor and the computer is on, and apparently not doing anything.
[02:36] <cornell> (I'm now on my laptop, to chat)
[02:37] <wallythemoose> memetic: linux16 is only available on x86 systems... you're not by chance trying that on 64 bit are you?
[02:37] <memetic> Yes, I sure am!
[02:37] <Linkandzelda> ActionParsnip: this looks like backtrack 5 now lol
[02:37] <wallythemoose> That would be it. I guess like 16 bit works on 32, but not 64
[02:38] <Linkandzelda> but also similar to how it looked with unity, just without the dock
[02:38] <cornell> Ah, finally got a response, it came up to the logon page
[02:38] <memetic> So, how would I fix that problem on my system, wallythemoose?  If I wanted to just run memtest from grub, instead of from cd or whatever.
[02:39] <wallythemoose> memetic: Do you have 32 bit ubuntu installed instead of 64 by chance?
[02:39] <memetic> I don't.
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda: its one way to get the old gnome look, there are 3rd party (unsupported) forks of Gnome2 in the form of Mate or Cinammon
[02:40] <Linkandzelda> ActionParsnip: I see, first thing I noticed is my sound doesnt work.. lol
[02:40] <puff> johnjacobjinger: well, the 70-persistent-net-rules has three different MAC address values for eth0, eth1, eth2.
[02:40] <wallythemoose> hmm.. well for some reason grub has the wrong memtest stuff in there... that's as far as I can tell. Maybe there is a way to install memtest for 64 buit or a different version of memtest
[02:40] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Hm, I just noticed that the line I appended to /etc/network/interfaces didn't have a newline at the end. Could that have caused problems?
[02:41] <wallythemoose> memetic: you could try running update-grub but I don't know if that would correct the problem if something else is going on
[02:41] <teff> ack, trying to install 12.04 64 bit alt and its dying at package install because "xserver-xorg-video-all: depends: xserver-xorg-video-ati but it is not isntallable       depends: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau but it is not installable"... anyone have any ideas how to resolve?
[02:42] <OerHeks> memetic, in your case, you should run memtest from cd, since your memtest86 tru grub is not working.
[02:42] <usr13> teff: What type of install are you doing?
[02:43] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Nope, added the newline and rebooted, same problem.
[02:43] <memetic> OerHeks: I don't like having broken options.
[02:43] <wallythemoose> Jordan_U: It turns out that fixparts is only for MBR disks, it says to use parted or GPT fdisk on it.
[02:43] <memetic> Most people are on 64bit systems.
[02:43] <teff> usr13, sorry, desktop install, lvm partition with root and home lv's, nvidia gpu
[02:43] <memetic> Seems like a seriously fucked approach in 12.04 to offer people memtest when it doesn't work.
[02:43] <memetic> I'll try update-grub and then just run from cd.
[02:44] <memetic> Thanks guys.
[02:44] <usr13> teff: Installing from CDROM?  Or...?
[02:44] <OerHeks> memetic, and do a filecheck too
[02:44] <Jordan_U> wallythemoose: Then use "gdisk" (which is by the same developer as fixparts).
[02:45] <teff> usr13, heh, sorry its 2:44 in the morning :p its from usb created with universal usb installer on windows
[02:46] <wallythemoose> Jordan_U: Thanks, I just realized that. Doh'
[02:46] <usr13> teff: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/976509
[02:46] <Jordan_U> wallythemoose: You're welcome.
[02:46] <bkfitz> 12.04 on old acer laptop... just installed... wifi says 'firmware missing' help
[02:46] <bkfitz> 'device not ready'
[02:47] <usr13> bkfitz: What does lspci say about your wifi card?
[02:47] <teff> usr13, thanks, no idea how i didnt clock that myself
[02:47] <usr13> np
[02:48] <bkfitz> usr13: it's actually still installing so I'll try that when it's done, but i had the same problem with 10.04
[02:49] <usr13> bkfitz: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:49] <bandit-led> i am getting continuous lockups where i have to ssh in and restart
[02:50] <bkfitz> usr13: but with no wifi... it won't be able to upgrade... no cat5 to plug into
[02:50] <bkfitz> using my phone 3g
[02:50] <bkfitz> at the in-laws reinstalling their laptop :)
[02:51] <usr13> bkfitz: Oh, well, that's gonna make it kinda tough.
[02:51] <bkfitz> usr13: yeah... i have a usb wifi at the office, but it'll be a hassle
[02:51] <usr13> ... but tell us what the wifi chip is and we'll see what we can do.  Ctrl-Alt-F6
[02:52] <cornell1> Well, the machine's back up, seems to be better.  Though, when I drag a window to the side, it doesn't show up on the next workspace, it just disappears.  But, I can still use the right-click/move to workspace on right.
[02:52] <bkfitz> usr13: can i download the upgrades as debs?
[02:52] <teff> am i going to be able to get away with remounting the usb install media read write from the isntall enviroment?
[02:52] <cornell1> Well, this evening's problem is solved... thanks for your help tomreyn and ActionParsnip
[02:53] <usr13> bkfitz: Why don't you tell us what lspci says about the wifi chip and we'll go from there?  Ctrl-Alt-F6
[02:53] <bkfitz> usr13: 10-4... it just finished rebooting now
[02:53] <usr13> bkfitz: Oh, ok.
[02:54] <Linkandzelda> If I'm going to use Gnome Classic, is there any reason to use 12.10 over 12.04?
[02:54] <usr13> bkfitz: First, see what iwconfig says.
[02:54] <usr13> Linkandzelda: I doubt it.
[02:54] <OerHeks> Linkandzelda, not sure 12.10 still has 'classic'
[02:55] <teff> its ok, apparently yes :)
[02:55] <Linkandzelda> OerHeks: thanks to ActionParsnip It does, and i can confirm as i installed gnome-panel :)
[02:55] <bkfitz> usr13: it says IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:off/any Mode:Managed Access Point: Not Associated....
[02:56] <rolling> !ops rolling will paste amex
[02:56] <rolling> !ops rolling
[02:56] <usr13> bkfitz: Looks like it's working.
[02:56] <rolling> !op rolling will paste amex
[02:56] <rolling> lol
[02:56] <rolling> niggerds
[02:56] <bkfitz> usr13: I agree... maybe 12.04 fixed it... hang on...
[02:56] <rolling> niggers
[02:56] <FloodBot1> rolling: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:57] <blendedbychris> anyone know how to resolve this "invoke-rc.d: initscript glusterfs-server, action "start" failed."
[02:58] <blendedbychris> is it running the init script?
[02:58] <blendedbychris> The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart
[02:58] <blendedbychris> job, but --configure is not supported for Upstart jobs.
[02:58] <blendedbychris> maybe that' what's blowing it up?
[02:58] <TheLordOfTime> !enter
[02:59] <blendedbychris> !enter
[02:59] <bkfitz> usr13: it seems to be working... but it isn't seeing my phone access point
[02:59] <bkfitz> usr13: not listed in wireless dropdown
[02:59] <usr13> bkfitz: Try configuring it manually.
[02:59] <puff> johnjacobjinger: Thanks, g'night!
[03:00] <bkfitz> usr13: out my league... can you help
[03:00] <bkfitz> usr13: oh you mean the access point.. ok i'll try
[03:00] <bkfitz> usr13: thought you meant scan for access points manually
[03:00] <usr13> bkfitz: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid my-phone  #where wlan0 is the wifi, and my-phone is the essid of your phone.
[03:01] <usr13> bkfitz: or, yes;  sudo iwlist scan
[03:01] <usr13> bkfitz:  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:01] <Gaming4JC> Hey all, quick and simple questions. In synaptic you can choose a specific package to upgrade. By commandline I've only done apt-get upgrade (which updates everything). Is there a way to update only ONE package from CLI?
[03:01] <johnjacobjinger> my neighbor last night threatened to call the cops on me for using linux
[03:02] <usr13> bkfitz: Once you have essid set;   sudo dhclient wlan0
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> *question rather ;)
[03:02] <mentoc> I've used update-rc.d to remove links to init scripts but the daemons seem to still start and are present in ps aux
[03:02] <usr13> johnjacobjinger: Were you hacking into his WiFi?
[03:02] <mentoc> is there anything I might be missing?
[03:02]  * Gaming4JC DuckDuckGoes while waiting
[03:03] <johnjacobjinger> usr13 he said the only ppl who use it are hackers so i must be up to no good basically
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> johnjacobjinger: he could be testing his own wifi? o_O
[03:03] <usr13> johnjacobjinger: Linux users are hackers.
[03:03] <bkfitz> usr13: iwlist scan gave me "Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down"
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> usr13: now now, no need for stereotypes... xD
[03:04] <bkfitz> usr13: now dropdown says (firmware missing) device not ready under Wireless Networks
[03:04] <wallythemoose> johnjacobjinger: tell him that hackers do work for the government
[03:04] <usr13> Gaming4JC: It's true.  But there IS a difference between hackers and malicious hackers.
[03:04] <mentoc> Hacking merely means coding
[03:05] <ekaj> Hacking means modifying
[03:05] <usr13> ekaj: correct
[03:05] <cuddylier> Hi
[03:05] <ekaj> Coding is encompassed in that
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: install the firmware cutter package listed on the broadcom wifi guide
[03:05] <cuddylier> Does anyone know of a good ssh FTP client?
[03:05] <Gaming4JC> true, cracking is evil, hacking is not
[03:05] <Gaming4JC> :)
[03:05] <ekaj> Malicous hackers should be called 'cracking'
[03:05] <ekaj> *crackers
[03:05] <usr13> cuddylier: sftp
[03:06] <ekaj> *malicious
[03:06] <usr13> ekaj: Yea, cracker is short for malicious hacker
[03:06] <mentoc> is there an alternate way daemons would start besides rc?
[03:07] <cuddylier> Usr13 what would be the command to install that.
[03:07] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: thx for the suggestion... I just googled it and got this link: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 correct?
[03:07] <cuddylier> Tried googling
[03:07] <ekaj> That's  probably why the mix up came in the first place, because people were too lazy to add malicous to hacker
[03:07] <ekaj> *the media
[03:07] <Gaming4JC> Aha, I love the man-pages. apt-get INSTALL will upgrade OR install new packages, whereas apt-get upgrade updates ALL. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/en/man8/apt-get.8.html
[03:08] <Gaming4JC> therefore I will be using install
[03:08] <Gaming4JC> ty :)
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: yes, there is a firmware cutter package there which will get the files you need from your firmware in your system and make what is needed
[03:08] <wallythemoose> Jordan_U: So I decided to bite the bullet and just repartition the drive and copy back all of the data, but it turns out that Ubuntu doesn't like Window's GPT partition table, and Window's doesn't like Ubuntu's (or should I say GParted) GPT partition table. Drats!
[03:08]  * Gaming4JC enjoys asking and answering his own questions... :P
[03:08] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: I don't have lan connection... so I need to download on this laptop and transfer to new one I'm installing... so i really need a deb
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: check out http://packages.ubuntu.com    is the system a laptop?
[03:08] <cuddylier> Anyone know the command to install the sftp client?
[03:08] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: yes... old acer
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: then move it to the router and use a wired connection, waaay easier
[03:09] <usr13> cuddylier: sudo apt-get install openssh-client
[03:09] <cuddylier> Thanks a lot usr13
[03:09] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: no router :) at the in laws installing 12.04 on their old laptop with tethered galaxy s3 on 3g
[03:10] <tomreyn> cuddylier: but i assume you want a graphical interface instead. you could try filezilla then.
[03:10] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: is this it http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/net/cutter
[03:11] <cuddylier> I want to stick to ssh if possible for performance sake, I used a GUI before and messed a machine up lol to tomreyn but ideally I would use a GUI if it wasn't for performance.
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: no, thne broadcom guide tells you the package n
[03:11] <Ethin> Unable to install ubuntu
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: name
[03:11] <cuddylier> I suppose I could install a GUI just to use FileZilla and uninstall but sounds worse than open sftp
[03:12] <tomreyn> cuddylier: the sftp command in openssl-client is indeed what you want then
[03:12] <tomreyn> .. for command line usage
[03:12] <usr13> cuddylier: FileZilla is a very powerful peice of software, (if you need it).
[03:12] <bandit-led> i have had 5 lockups setting here :C
[03:12] <simplew> im trying to report a bug but some is failing: ERROR: Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress?  Error: No module named 'DLFCN'
[03:13] <simplew> can anyone tell me whats the problem?
[03:13] <wallythemoose> Simply put, I cannot share an entire 3tb (2.73Tib) drive as one partition with both Windows and Ubuntu. Neither of them will see each-other's version of the GPT partition table, and MSDOS partition table (MBR) only allows for partitions up to 2tb :(
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: search the page for the word cutter, seems like an obvious ting to do....
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/b43-fwcutter
[03:13] <cuddylier> Tomreyn will open ssh mess up my current ssh? Just the default my host installed.
[03:14] <cuddylier> Or is it only a FTP client?
[03:14] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: I thought I did... maybe I missed it.  Thx though
[03:14] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: thx for you help
[03:14] <tomreyn> cuddylier: openssh is an ssh client, it's probably the one you already have installed if you already have an ssh client installed.
[03:15] <cuddylier> Tomreyn Ah...could u tell me the FTP base commands, sorry for being lazy :(
[03:15] <cuddylier> please
[03:16] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: ok... just installed the deb
[03:16] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: reboot and pray?
[03:16] <tomreyn> cuddylier: please read the man page and the "interactive commands" section there. there aren't many.
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: yeah should be ok
[03:17] <Guest92309> Hello, could someone help me with an issue I'm having booting ubuntu from a flash drive?
[03:17] <cuddylier> Tomreyn thanks
[03:18] <tomreyn> yw
[03:18] <Guest92309> Basically, when I try to boot it up I get an error saying there isn't a UI file. I tried changing the name on some files to syslinux, but that didn't work either.
[03:18] <Guest92309> Is there anything else I can try?
[03:19] <pepee> Guest92309, do you have the exact error message?
[03:19] <pepee> Guest92309, is this from grub?
[03:19] <Guest92309> um, let me see if i can find it
[03:21] <pepee> Guest92309, I don't really know what is syslinux. from the manpage, it says it's a bootloader. why are you using it?
[03:21] <Guest92309> it says no default or ui configuration directive found
[03:21] <bkfitz> usr13: something is still funky
[03:21] <Guest92309> im not sure, i googled the error I got and it said to change the file name to that.
[03:21] <Guest92309> im pretty new with this haha
[03:22] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: something is still funky
[03:22] <pepee> Guest92309, how did you install ubuntu?
[03:22] <Guest92309> i havnt yet, i downloadedthe ISO and used pendrive to install it on a flash drive
[03:22] <DayonaAdrie> My left side dock (or as Ubuntu calls it launcher) has been missing in action since I installed Ubuntu. Is there anyway to fix this without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[03:22] <Guest92309> then when i try to boot from the flash drive, i get that error
[03:23] <simplew> im trying to REPORT A BUG but some is failingwhen running "ubuntu-bug muon" -> ERROR: Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress?  Error: No module named 'DLFCN'
[03:23] <ekaj> Guest92309: Are you trying to install Ubuntu from a flash drive?
[03:23] <Guest92309> yes
[03:23] <ekaj> Have you tried Unetbootin?
[03:23] <simplew> does anyone knows why?
[03:23] <Cuddylier> Tomreyn I am really sorry but I can't see commands or interactive commands on http://www.openssh.org/ or even in the commands, am I just blind?
[03:23] <Guest92309> yeah, for some reason it freezes on step 3
[03:23] <ekaj> Do you already have the ISO downloaded?
[03:23] <phong_> hi guys, how to make qbittorent as default ...currently it use tranmission
[03:23] <Cuddylier> I meant in the manuals I couldn't see it either
[03:23] <phong_> please help
[03:23] <Guest92309> yes, im downloading it again just in case.
[03:24] <ekaj> What is step 3 btw?
[03:24] <Guest92309> um
[03:24] <pepee> simplew, http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/4228-python-qt4-designer-pyuic4-no-module-named-dlfcn-solution-found/
[03:24] <Guest92309> installing bootloader
[03:24] <ekaj> Also, Guest92309, read this, it might help https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/162765
[03:25] <Guest92309> ok
[03:25] <phong_> guys, how to make qbittorent as default instead of transmission
[03:25] <wallythemoose> !patience
[03:25] <usr13> simplew: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2*list  #Tell us what it says.
[03:25] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: how do I know if its using the new broadcom driver I installed?
[03:26] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: seems to be behaving exactly the same
[03:26] <wallythemoose> phong_: are you trying to make qtbittorrent open torrent files from a web browser by default?
[03:26] <phong_> yes
[03:26] <phong_> i use firefox
[03:26] <phong_> when i click torrent file
[03:26] <simplew> usr13:
[03:26] <phong_> it use tranmission
[03:26] <simplew> :~$ ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2*list
[03:26] <simplew> /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.7.list  /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.7-minimal.list
[03:26] <usr13> simplew: grep DLFCN /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.7.list
[03:26] <bkfitz> iwconfig shows ESSID what i set it to, but when i do a scan, it says interface doesn't support it network is down
[03:26] <wallythemoose> maybe right click on a file, properties -> open with tab, and change the application, phong_
[03:27] <simplew> usr13: /usr/lib/python2.7/plat-linux2/DLFCN.py
[03:27] <wallythemoose> so save the file first, then go to properties and change the open with type
[03:27] <Linkandzelda> ActionParsnip: after installing gnome-panel I was unable to right click on the panels or make new ones. how can i do that?
[03:28] <simplew> usr13: closed by mistaked
[03:28] <Guest92309> ok, it says to try not saving any memory for persistent file, ill try that.
[03:28] <Guest92309> thank you very much :)
[03:28] <greenhornlinux> Guest92309, I had the exact same issue with pendrive and ubuntu, I never solved it with pendrive. There is a work around however. Here is a link to my site and video on what you can do http://www.greenhornlinux.com/2012/06/03/install-linux-to-a-usb-thumb-drive/ basically if you can use a live cd instead you can use the live cd to set up your flash drive. That method worked for me. Hopefully you can run the live cd
[03:28] <Guest92309> oh, thank you very much, ill defintly watch that
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda: I believe you have to hold ALT then right clcik
[03:29] <usr13> simplew: sudo find /usr/lib/ -name DLFCN.py -type f
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda: I'd suggest you install xfce4 instead of trying to use the old gnome-panel shell. Its a lot less twitchy
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> usr13: simplew: sudo updatedb; locate DLFCN.py
[03:31] <usr13> ActionParsnip: I think my way is quicker.  ;0
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> usr13: mines good for future searches :)
[03:31] <usr13> true....
[03:31] <simplew> usr13, ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/1330932
[03:32] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: still stuck in the mud... any ideas
[03:32] <usr13> ActionParsnip: simplew seems to have 2 versions of python ....?
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: if you are using wifi, your router will have ethernet ports which you can use
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> usr13: that's fine
[03:33] <usr13> O
[03:33] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: no router here.  Using 3g on phone
[03:33] <bkfitz> tethering
[03:33] <usr13> simplew: Well, I dono what the problem is.  (I was guessing you may have a defenciency of some sort but, maybe not.) I dono...
[03:34] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: I could take the new laptop home tomorrow and plug into my router at home and do updgrade/update... do you think that will fix it?
[03:34] <marcus> any1 know how to fix .NET on 64bit ubuntu?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: so what will you be connecting to once the broadcom gets setup, or is it incease it needs to be used later?
[03:34] <simplew> so how can i nw report a bug in ubuntu??
[03:35] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: in-laws are going to get cable internet next week...
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: there is also a how to in order to use the install CD as a repo to set it up with no web access
[03:35] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: luggites :)
[03:35] <usr13> bkfitz: Did you try  sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <my-phone's-essid>;sudo dhclient wlan0  ?
[03:35] <bkfitz> yes and it took it
[03:35] <bkfitz> and when i do iwconfig it shows my essid
[03:35] <bkfitz> but still not connecting
[03:35] <usr13> bkfitz: sudo dhclient wlan0   ?
[03:36] <arielCo> Hello everyone.
[03:36] <usr13> Hello
[03:36] <bkfitz> "no such file or directory"
[03:36] <bkfitz> RTNETLINK answers: no such...
[03:36] <usr13> bkfitz: What?
[03:36] <arielCo> Any of you had trouble with the netboot/minimal cd?
[03:36] <bkfitz> usr13: thats what I get when I run sudo dhclient wlan0
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: is there a switch to enable / disable the wifi
[03:37] <dfs4> wats up linuxers
[03:37] <usr13> bkfitz: sudo dhclient wlan0   #Where wlan0 is actually the name of your wifi
[03:37] <MattJCliffe> sup dfs4
[03:37] <usr13> bkfitz: Yea, (what ActionParsnip says...).
[03:37] <pepee> simplew, are you using 12.10?
[03:37] <DayonaAdrie> "My left side dock (or as Ubuntu calls it launcher) has been missing in action since I installed Ubuntu. Is there anyway to fix this without reinstalling Ubuntu?" Just making sure someone saw/sees this. I'm poking around on forums and stuff in the meantime.
[03:37] <bkfitz> wlan0 is the name i believe
[03:37] <dfs4> nothin much just hanging out
[03:37] <bkfitz> iwconfig wlan0 says so
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> DayonaAdrie: what video chip do you use?
[03:37] <dfs4> brb
[03:37] <usr13> bkfitz: What's the essid of your phone?
[03:38] <DayonaAdrie> Uh….I have to look it up real quick ActionParsnip - give me just a moment.
[03:38] <bkfitz> FitzTether... if i run sudo dhclient FitzTether I get "Cannot find device "FitzTether"
[03:38] <usr13> bkfitz: What does lspci say about your  wifi device?
[03:38] <arielCo> Any of you had trouble with the netboot/minimal cd? I burned the amd64 iso and the keyboard stops responding on language selection. :(
[03:39] <usr13> bkfitz: FitzTether is the essid, not the wifi chip.  Try:  sudo dhclient wlan0
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: try disabling then enabling the wifi. Or unload and reload the driver module
[03:40] <bkfitz> usr13: lspci says Broadcom Corporation BCM431 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[03:40] <usr13> bkfitz: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "FitzTether";dhclient wlan0
[03:40] <bkfitz> usr13: yes... i did sudo dhclient wlan0
[03:40] <bkfitz> thats when i get the weird RTNETLINK error
[03:40] <blackhole> guys help me, how to install download google earth?
[03:40] <DayonaAdrie> ActionParsnip: My video chip is …ATI RAedon HD 3200
[03:40] <pepee> bkfitz, in a console, rfkill list
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> DayonaAdrie: and using 12.10?
[03:41] <DayonaAdrie> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[03:41] <bkfitz> pepee: what will that do
[03:41] <bkfitz> Soft Blocked no Hard blocked no
[03:41] <bkfitz> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> DayonaAdrie: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[03:41] <pepee> bkfitz, it shows if the devices are locked
[03:41] <simplew> pepee: yes
[03:42] <DayonaAdrie> Thank you so very much ActionParsnip - I'm gonna try this as soon as the Alabama LSU game ends. I'm a little wrapped up in the last minute. lol.
[03:42] <bkfitz> pepee: good thought but it doesn't look locked
[03:42] <DayonaAdrie> Well a little at the same time. Let's just hope I don't get too into the game. lol.
[03:42] <simplew> pepee: sorry, i have installed quantal, but then i upgraded to raring
[03:43] <pepee> simplew, #ubuntu+1
[03:43] <ar9> anyone of a way to delete a bunch of pictures that all end in the same way/name? i have a bunch of pictures that all end in *small.jpg
[03:44] <arielCo> Hello everyone. I'm having trouble with the minimal;netboot cd, amd64. It hangs, or the keyboard stops responding, right at the first screen. Any of you had the same happen?
[03:44] <codemaniac> ar9: use "rm *small.jpg"
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> arielCo: what video chip do you use?
[03:44] <simplew> pepee: i was there
[03:44] <ar9> codemaniac: ty
[03:44] <arielCo> Nvidia, gtx 670
[03:45] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: Pepee: Usr13: Thanks for all your help guys... prob just going to drag this thing home and get it on eth0 to update/upgrade, then mess with it
[03:45] <arielCo> (Thouh it's in text mode)
[03:45] <pepee> simplew, that's the channel for raring, just wait there until someone helps you
[03:45] <codemaniac> ar9: but before doing the rm command do a "ls -l *small.jpg" to make sure these are the set of files you want to remove
[03:45] <pepee> bkfitz, tried pinging remote servers? do you have an IP?
[03:45] <pepee> *internal IP
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> arielCo: try the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[03:46] <bkfitz> pepee: didn't check, but don't think so because little wifi icon shows empty
[03:46] <simplew> pepee: isnt there another way to report bugs?
[03:46] <pepee> simplew, for raring, no
[03:46] <arielCo> ActionParsnip: Ah, that might work. Even if it's text mode?
[03:46] <wallythemoose> Jordan_U: I tried to use Gdisk from both windows 7 and ubuntu, and still each refuses to see the other's partition table that they made... I may have to settle for MBR and a 2tb partition
[03:46] <ar9> codemaniac: is there a way to keep it to 5 letters before the *small.jpg, the're all named XXXXXs.jpg
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> arielCo: yes, it can be needed
[03:47] <pepee> simplew, in fact, bug reports may be invalid, since it's in development
[03:47] <arielCo> Trying ...
[03:47] <usr13> bkfitz: You probably need:  bcmwl-kernel-source - Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver source
[03:47] <codemaniac> ar9: i dont get your requirement, can you clarify please?
[03:47] <bkfitz> usr13: ok i'll try it when i get home... thx again
[03:47] <simplew> pepee: its a bug report in an app that has nothing to do if is in raring
[03:48] <usr13> bkfitz: NP
[03:48] <pepee> simplew, yes, it has to do, whatever happens in raring has to be reported in that channel
[03:48] <ar9> codemaniac: i have pictures all named 12345s.jpg and 12345h.jpg, i want to batch delete all the 12345s.jpg ones
[03:48] <usr13> bkfitz: Actually, I'd first try:  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade    #first
[03:48] <codemaniac> ar9: ahh, do a rm 12345*
[03:48] <pepee> simplew, that's why it's not recommended to use development versions in early stages
[03:49] <bkfitz> usr13: yeah i will
[03:49] <codemaniac> ar9: rm 12345*jpg wowld be better
[03:49] <usr13> bkfitz: What did you install?
[03:49] <codemaniac> ar9: wait
[03:50] <ar9> codemaniac: what if theyre random? like *****s.jpg
[03:50] <Gnosis-> Hello. It doesn't seem like this HP printer is recognized (I keep trying to print a test page but nothing happens). Here is my syslog: http://bpaste.net/show/55707/
[03:50] <pepee> simplew, you shouldn't be using raring if you don't want bugs in the first place, and this channel is for 12.10 or less. #ubuntu+1 is for raring
[03:50] <arielCo> ActionParsnip.
[03:50] <simplew> i have many packages in /var/cache/apt/ and i want to do a clean isntall, so i wan to tcreate a local debian repo to be able to use these packages instead download them again, can anyone help me create a local repo to be used by apt?
[03:51] <usr13> Gnosis-: firefox localhost:631
[03:51] <codemaniac> now i get you i guess, try ls -l *s.jpg, then rm
[03:51] <codemaniac> ar9: is itat all you want
[03:51] <arielCo> ActionParsnip: where do I put the params in grub2? I got "linux /linux priority=low --".
[03:51] <Gnosis-> usr13: I see the CUPS page
[03:51] <arielCo> (I'm used to legacy)
[03:51] <ar9> codemaniac: i think do, thanks man I'll try it out
[03:51] <Linkandzelda> what IM clints does everyone use?
[03:52] <Linkandzelda> i'm tempted to just use Bitlbee lol
[03:52] <pepee> simplew, you can simply copy those files, and then copying them back to the same folder
[03:52] <codemaniac> ar9: bo problem :)
[03:52] <codemaniac> no*
[03:52] <usr13> Gnosis-: Yes, now configure your printer, (and set as default if you see fit). Kill any jobs.  Print test page.  Etc....
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | arielCo
[03:52] <simplew> pepee: and oonce the clean isntall is done i copy the packages again to /var/cache/apt and synaptic will use them?
[03:53] <DayonaAdrie> Okay ActionParsnip there is still one problem that rings out for me in running this commands….I need to be able to actually open the terminal. How do you suggest I do this?
[03:53]  * DayonaAdrie is not a complete Linux junkie but does like it.
[03:53] <pepee> simplew, apt-get does that. not sure about synaptic, but it should
[03:54] <simplew> pepee: meanwhile isnt possible to report in launchpad website?
[03:54] <Gnosis-> usr13: I got it working, thanks!
[03:54] <usr13> DayonaAdrie: Ctrl-Alt-t  ?
[03:54] <usr13> Gnosis-: NP
[03:55] <tapout> are there stats on kde vs gnome with ubuntu installs/downloads?
[03:55] <tapout> i suspect kde is growing lately?
[03:55] <DayonaAdrie> Okay that worked. Thanks usr13 - I'm not a real keyboard ninja with any Linux.
[03:55] <usr13> DayonaAdrie: NP
[03:55] <pepee> simplew, file a report, but make sure to tell them you are using raring
[03:55] <Gnosis-> usr13: I think the regular printer setup GUI for Ubuntu should just include a link to open up http://localhost:631/... clearly the interface is not as good :)
[03:55] <pepee> simplew, or just wait for someone to reply in #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <usr13> Gnosis-: Agreed
[03:56] <simplew> pepee: im in https://bugs.launchpad.net/muon  but i see no way to report a bug
[03:56] <simplew> pepee: this bug happens in 12.10
[03:57] <pepee> simplew, try #kubuntu then
[03:57] <pepee> simplew, again, you are using raring...
[03:58] <Zer0Glitch> What's a good resource for learning linux for ground-up approach? E.G. i want to get into compiling and building packages for a lot of the apps that I see out there, but many of which have to be compiled, packed, or in some cases repacked.
[03:59] <trism> simplew: this would be the page for ubuntu bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon (the other would be for upstream bugs if muon used launchpad for that, which they don't)
[04:00] <usr13> Zer0Glitch: As a Ubuntu user, you'll find little need to compile a package, most all of them come to us packaged and ready to go.
[04:01] <pepee> Zer0Glitch, linux from scratch I suppose. ask in ##linux too
[04:01] <arielCo> ActionParsnip: okay, I added "nomodeset nouveau.blacklist=yes" after "-- quiet". Same result.
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> arielCo: are you using a switchable video hardware
[04:02] <arielCo> Yup, that's what I was writing: "Maybe booting with the integrated gpu."
[04:02] <DayonaAdrie> Well this is going to take me some time to do. Stupid satellite internet. Meanwhile the only thing I have to watch i the post game coverage on a game that we done won and I don't care to watch a post game of. All I know is the Alabama Crimson Tide won.
[04:03] <DayonaAdrie> And that's all I care about. xD
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> arielCo: that stuff causes all kinds of hell in linux
[04:03] <Zer0Glitch> usr13 > Try finding a solid pre-packed NEStopia copy that runs well on Ubuntu and employs sound properly across multiple hardware brands and run that by me again.
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> arielCo: this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> arielCo: I've never seen a success story with that mess.
[04:04] <usr13> Zer0Glitch: As far as just learning Linux from "ground up";  To start with, there are lots of resources online.  You might find http://www.linux.org/ interesting, (see Free Online Linux Courses).
[04:05] <bandit-led> Zer0Glitch, look into funtoo or gentoo as well
[04:05] <pepee> install gentoo
[04:05] <pepee> yeah
[04:05] <Zer0Glitch> A lot of the repacks and ports I want to do are for indie games
[04:05] <Zer0Glitch> Not a lot out there for games which are well-packed to run with Ubuntu
[04:06] <brady> im trying to use luckybackup to backup my /etc , but it appears to not be able to do it , which i assume is some sort of permissions thing.  I tried running lucky backup via the terminal with sudo, but it still appears to not allow it
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> Zer0Glitch: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/12.04/?q=nes   you can use once you install this deb: http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[04:08] <bandit-led> Zer0Glitch,   you can always build them your self although i haven't found any games that work on linux that dont usually have a debian or ubuntu package
[04:08] <arielCo> No luck either. I already installed OpenSUSE by switching to the integrated gpu, but the netboot CD freezes.
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> Zer0Glitch: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc    I may have a PPA for nestopia
[04:09] <arielCo> actionParsnip: above. Also, did I mention thet it's an amd64 ISO?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> arielCo: shouldn't make a difference on the arch
[04:10] <arielCo> Thought so. If I even had a log... FYI, it works fine with qemu-kvm from the existing installation.
[04:11] <arielCo> Ahh... I'll try the "expert command line install" and see what shows up
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> arielCo: if you intend to use Linux it is best avoided
[04:12] <rgenito> is there a way to have "dd" show you the % complete for transferring the blocks?
[04:12] <rgenito> (if of course, the input is of a known size)
[04:13] <rgenito> oooo i found a google article that may have given me information to do that... i'll post it here if it turns out to help :)
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> rgenito: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/5293/dd-with-progress-bar
[04:13] <arielCo> rgenito: if you "pkill -USR2 dd" or maybe USR1, it prints progress info.
[04:13] <arielCo> Lol, ninja'd
[04:13] <shell> Does anyone know some popular irc channels, for General technology or chat?
[04:14] <edbian> shell, There is #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> shell: #ubuntu-offtopic can be both :)
[04:14] <rgenito> oh sweet, this seems to help me learn about other things too.. thanks ActionParsnip and arielCo :D
[04:14] <rgenito> wait, what's the topic here anyways? ;)
[04:15] <rgenito> whattttt?
[04:15] <rgenito> dude, "watch" ... awesome! :D
[04:15] <shell> Are there any others beside offtopic that you like?
[04:15] <Zer0Glitch> Special thanks to ActionParsnip and Burtonium
[04:15] <rgenito> the idea of a command like that kicks ASS
[04:15] <Tricarico> ola
[04:15] <arielCo> ActionParsnip: no luck with any option. I guess I'll burn a full dvd.
[04:15] <usr13> Zer0Glitch: sudo apt-get install build-essential #Go to http://www.linux.org/article/view/installing-programs-and-upgrading-software-os-versions and scroll to bottom.  #FYI
[04:16] <burtonium> np Zer0Glitch
[04:16] <Noskcaj> i just installed the mediabuntu extras but update manager isn't letting me update some stuff it says Requires installation of untrusted packages and stops
[04:16] <arielCo> I was trying to spare me a half-gb of updates
[04:16] <rgenito> wow, i didn't realize "kill" could be so interesting :)
[04:16] <usr13> Zer0Glitch: My last comment to you is probably something you dont really need, but just FYI.
[04:17] <Zer0Glitch> Why do you mention usr13?
[04:17] <Zer0Glitch> Just so I know?
[04:17] <usr13> Zer0Glitch: Yes
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> Noskcaj, Did you add the key and is it shown in a try in the terminal?
[04:19] <Noskcaj> wilee-nilee: what do you mean and i will try
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> Noskcaj, Are you running the installs from a terminal?
[04:19] <Zer0Glitch> usr13 > I'm running 12.04 LTS will it matter?
[04:19] <arielCo> rgenito: 'kill' is all about sending signals to processes. Most signal can be "caught" and be used for signalling.
[04:20] <usr13> Zer0Glitch: No.  (And 12.04 LTS is a good place to be IMO).
[04:21] <Noskcaj> wilee-nilee: i am now, and it says no public  key
[04:21] <skunk> Ubuntu software center is slow and buggy.. is this a common problem??
[04:21] <brady> how can i back up /etc ?
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> Noskcaj, With medibuntu stuff?
[04:21] <edbian> brady, cp /etc /some/backup/folder
[04:21] <edbian> brady, What's confusing you?
[04:22] <skunk> yes? no?
[04:22] <edbian> skunk, IDK, I never use it :P
[04:22] <brady> i was trying to use luckybackup
[04:22] <edbian> brady, I guess the -r flag might be useful
[04:22] <edbian> brady, I'm not familiar with that program
[04:22] <skunk> good grief.. this darn thing has been buggy and slow for two years since it's incemption
[04:22] <brady> im not familiar with the terminal
[04:22] <arielCo> !efi
[04:23] <edbian> fair enough :P
[04:23] <edbian> skunk, just use command line tools
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> Noskcaj: if you can give the code in:  sudo apt-get update     I can advise
[04:23] <Noskcaj> <wilee-nilee: yeah
[04:23] <skunk> look man.. not to be rude.. but if ubuntu is supposed to be for "human beings" they should compete head on with the mac app store
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> Noskcaj, I'm not sure how you added the repo, but this set of commands should of added it and the keys.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[04:24] <Noskcaj> thanks
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> Noskcaj: run:   sudo apt-get update    what is teh GPG key error you get?
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> Noskcaj, You might try just this portion, sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update
[04:24] <skunk> edbian, look man.. not to be rude.. but if ubuntu is supposed to be for "human beings" they should compete head on with the mac app store
[04:24] <Noskcaj> GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org quantal InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> Noskcaj: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[04:24] <skunk> synaptic was really good though
[04:25] <edbian> skunk, they are trying to compete.  No-one said they're succeeding!  (maybe they do) but anyway.  Do you have a tech support question?  if not you can talk about the stupid software center in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> Noskcaj, It loks like ActionParsnip has the key for you.
[04:25] <Noskcaj> ok
[04:25] <jsKeal> Sup.
[04:26] <jsKeal> Hello.
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: its the same for all key errors. I have it in a script called 'getkey' :)
[04:26] <Noskcaj> jsKeal: dont waste time
[04:26] <jsKeal> Why?
[04:26] <jsKeal> lol.
[04:26] <jsKeal> I have all the time I need :&
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, Hehe, how convenient. ;)
[04:27] <arielCo> !justask | jsKeal
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: I'm lazy
[04:31] <Ali_nz^1> I need to setup a directory and have some specific permissions. I need a user called MxCamera which can read and write to this directory (MxData) via NFS. I need another user called MxUser which can Read only to this directory via SMB - as a start - where is the best place to create this folder? under /home/MxData ?
[04:33] <edbian> Ali_nz^1, I believe you need to have that use MxCamera on the file hosting machine and the machine the user logs into in order for it to work correctly.
[04:33] <edbian> Ali_nz^1, There is a system which allows you to add use account to one file on one machine and have all the other machines read that file to become of user accounts.
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz^1: if you use smbpasswd you can make samba users, then set which samba users have what access
[04:34] <edbian> Ali_nz^1, The best place for the folder is probably /mnt/  or I guess just in /  ?  Not really sure
[04:35] <Ali_nz^1> Ok
[04:35] <Ali_nz^1> then /mnt/MxData it is
[04:36] <Ali_nz^1> And just trying to get my head around NFS permissions
[04:36] <Ali_nz^1> If I understand correct NFS allows or disallows access based on IP address?
[04:43] <Ali_nz^1> how do I check what my username is?
[04:43] <blackshirt> whoami
[04:44] <Ali_nz^1> ta
[04:48] <codemaniac> Ali_nz^1: what says 'id'?
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz^1: works in windows too :)
[04:52] <Ali_nz^1> the manual suggests chown -R 65534:0 /mnt/MxData - does that give everyone access to the directory?
[04:53] <Ali_nz^1> ActionParsnip: ur right - it does work in windows lol
[04:53] <johnjacobjinger> gah freaking comcast
[04:54] <Ali_nz^1> the user I created (MxCamera) is 1000:1000 who why not chown -R 1000:1000
[04:55] <Random833> Ali_nz^1: no you need to chmod
[04:56] <Ali_nz^1> Random833: nah - the next line says chmod 755 /mnt/mxData
[05:01] <Zer0Glitch> How does one switch between desktop builds in Ubuntu?
[05:01] <Zer0Glitch> I have 12.04 LTS and just installed xubuntu-desktop
[05:01] <Ali_nz^1> whats the best free ddns service these days with ubuntu support?
[05:01] <gnnr> i use afraid.org
[05:02] <wols_> Zer0Glitch: typically you switch at login between the installed ones
[05:02] <gnnr> Zer0: usually on boot you are presented a selection in Grub boot
[05:02] <Ali_nz^1> gnnr: Yeah I seen that one - what makes it good? how to make it work with ubuntu
[05:03] <Zer0Glitch> Is there a way to set default?
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> Zer0Glitch: the last session is remembered for your user
[05:03] <wols_> Zer0Glitch: depends on your displaymanager
[05:03] <wols_> Ali_nz^1: inadyn for example. apt-cache search afraid.org
[05:03] <wols_> another would be no-ip.org
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> no-ip is sweeeeet
[05:04] <gnnr> Ali_nz^1: it's free, tons of fun domains to choose from. I'd recommend setting it up on your router and then forwarding the ports you need to your computer
[05:04] <brady> the ubuntu installer, its possible to install to a drive that has some folders in it without overwriting it?
[05:05] <gnnr> brady, during the install you are prompted to create a new partition, so usually you either want to erase the contents and install on an existing partition or create a new partition
[05:07] <brady> does this mean i can reduce the size of the partition the files are on , without deleting them, and therefore have space to create a new partition for the system?
[05:08] <gnnr> brady, yes you will have to select manual partition and see if you can find a solution that works for you
[05:09] <Ali_nz^1> it looks like you can create a subdomain
[05:09] <wols_> brady: but make sure you have backups of the data which is on the disk you want to resize. make very sure
[05:10] <wols_> Ali_nz^1: you can always only create a subdomain
[05:11] <Ali_nz^1> wols: whats the diff between the public and private ones?
[05:11] <wols_> context?
[05:12] <Ali_nz^1> wols_: the domains on freedns
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> brad[]: you can mark the partition to be used if you use custom partitining and the data will stand
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> brad[]: obviously filenames identical in the install will be overwritten by the installer
[05:14] <wols_> Ali_nz^1: all I can see are private IPs, which means non-routable IPs
[05:16] <_cb> MB on my HP just fried so went out & bought a Dell GX620 for 15 bucks, put in the drive and Ubuntu booted up. I am thrilled but surprised. Wouldnt Ubuntu have hp specific drivers installed?
[05:17] <gnnr> ActionParsnip, he parted
[05:18] <gnnr> _cb, is there a specific device that isn't working?
[05:18] <_cb> I have not done extensive testing. I am shoked that it even worked
[05:19] <_cb> gnnr can one take an ubuntu drive from any one computer, put it into another computer and it will work?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> _cb: no bad thing, sounds awesome
[05:20] <_cb> ActionParsnip yeah.I thought I was going to have to boot onto cd, copy my data, reformat...
[05:20] <gnnr> _cb, drivers in ubuntu are packaged in to the install, so just install ubuntu on another machine, and most hardware is supported. Turns out hp, dell, etc use almost identical components
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> _cb: i suggest you get a backup solution
[05:21] <_cb> gnnr so I got lucky. Had it been a different model of computer it may have not worked.
[05:23] <gnnr> _cb  It's possible a number of motherboards would have worked, but like ActionParsnip back up so you don't have to test your luck
[05:24] <ryanliue> hi guys
[05:24] <juniour> hi guys how to install latest firefox
[05:25] <dsprc> !backups
[05:25] <fego> juniour: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> juniour: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[05:26] <juniour> fego you have use mozilla in windows
[05:27] <fego> juniour: yes, but not a bin of FF though
[05:27] <juniour> precise
[05:27] <fego> big fan i meant
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> juniour: cool, there are a few PPAs listed on the link fego gave
[05:27] <juniour> fego i want the same in ubuntu
[05:27] <gnnr> juniour, try sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:28] <juniour> gnnr tried saying you have the latest one
[05:28] <SuperMiguel> i right click the network manager and disable my wifi, now i cant enable it back
[05:28] <SuperMiguel> any ideas??
[05:28] <LordOfTime> juniour:  there's chromium-browser if you want to use that
[05:28] <juniour> no
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> juniour: I just went to http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/   and it aays ver 16 is latest for windows... which is default in Precise as far as I know
[05:29] <juniour> can i mae it same as i use in windows
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox precise
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> ahhhh
[05:29] <gnnr> juniour, may want to go directly to mozzila's website, and see if there is a direct download, or more frequent builds.
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> juniour: the PPAs will help
[05:30] <xangua> ActionParsnip: no, they will not
[05:30] <gnnr> yea make sure you add the PPA from mozilla
[05:30] <xangua> juniour: you are already using the latest stable firefox
[05:30] <juniour> ActionParsnip its less option here i dont get the histoty and all options
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> xangua: why not?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> xangua: s/he has 15 wheras Quantal has 16
[05:31] <juniour> ActionParsnip how to enable al the option
[05:31] <dsprc> juniour: what do you mean you dont get the history and options?
[05:32] <juniour> yeppp
[05:32] <blazinbass> does netflix work in wine anyone?
[05:32] <xangua> gnnr: no need for that ppa in ages, it doesn't even exist anymore
[05:32] <xangua> ActionParsnip: i am using precice and have fx 16
[05:32] <simplew> why gstreamer-faac doesnt exist in ubuntu?
[05:32] <dsprc> blazinbass: i dont think so. maybe check winedb or #wine
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> xangua: seems ubottu is lying then :)
[05:33] <juniour> file,tool,edit this all option i am not getting
[05:33] <gnnr> yea i have 16 looks same as windows for me
[05:33] <LordOfTime> blazinbass:  not really.
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> xangua: yes, she is. packages.ubuntu says 16 too
[05:33] <juniour> i want to clear my history how willi delete
[05:33] <dsprc> juniour: move your mouse up to the title bar
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> juniour: press CTRL+Shift+DEL
[05:33]  * dsprc does unity still do that??
[05:34] <juniour> ActionParsnip just i cant get options like i get in windows
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> juniour: like what?
[05:34] <dsprc> the unified menu thing that they have at the top left i think is what he is talking about
[05:34] <juniour> you are using shortcut i want the icon
[05:34] <juniour> all
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> juniour: did you move your mouse to the topmost panel? The file, Edit etc go in there
[05:35] <juniour> menu in firefox
[05:35] <juniour> yaaa
[05:35] <juniour> its not there
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> juniour: do you have firefox-globalmenu installed?
[05:36] <Ali_nz^1> ok - I dont get it. I am looking at inadyn for use with freedns, but the command line examples for freedns dont show a prompt for username or password?
[05:37] <ngt> hi, i am using samsung ml1660 printer, ubuntu detect my printer but i am unable to print anything. I have installed samsung unified driver but still no result.
[05:38] <simplew> ActionParsnip: why gstreamer-faac doesnt exist in ubuntu?
[05:38] <Jordan_U> wallythemoose: One possible theory is that what you think is a single drive (and was advertised as a single drive) is really a FakeRAID of some type. Do you see more disks listed in Ubuntu that in Windows?
[05:39] <ssasori> guys... at wits end, would love some advice.  i hate unity.  hate is a strong word i know, but its true.  the fact that you cant see open windows and only have that arrow thing, i hate it.  and have to go to 3d mode to see other windows... i hate extra steps.  thats why i dont like unity.  i tried out kubuntu after 5 years.  the customization is AWESOME.  leagues above ubuntu.  but, buggy. things work than they dont work... etc.  so
[05:39] <ssasori> can anyone point me to a site that will tell me how to get ubuntu 12.10 running. with a taskbar, so i can see all open windows.  essentially is what i need.  would love the help.  thanks :)
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> ssasori: try xfce desktop :)
[05:39] <gnnr> inadyn --dyndns_service default@freedns.afraid.org -a my.registrated.name,hash_from_freedns
[05:40] <ssasori> ActionParsnip: thanks dude, will go check it out right now
[05:40] <gnnr> Ali_nz^1, you'll need to go into the options on the site, and generate a hash for your subdomain
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> simplew: seems to be in gst-plugins-bad0.10
[05:41] <Jordan_U> wallythemoose: For example if the the RAID array has a stripe size of one MiB, then the first MiB of one of the drives will be the same as the first MiB of the array, and so when looking at that drive alone it will appear to have a GPT label with invalid partition definitions (because it's really describing the array rather than that individual drive).
[05:41] <Ali_nz^1> gnnr:ahhh i see
[05:42] <Ali_nz^1> gnnr: and setting it as a daemon? or startup service?
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> simplew: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-bad0.10/0.10.22.3-2ubuntu1
[05:42] <Zer0Glitch>  is there a terminal command to force my system to restart in xubuntu-desktop? It keeps reloading into Ubuntu LTS without giving me choice to choose desktop
[05:43] <gnnr> Ali_nz^1, I would probably add it as a daemon
[05:43] <simplew> ActionParsnip: such package does not exist gst-plugins-bad0.10
[05:43] <gnnr> man inadyn and read through all of the options
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> !info gst-plugins-bad0.10
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> !find plugins-bad
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> simplew: install gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad
[05:45] <simplew> ActionParsnip: iits installed but arista continues complaining about it
[05:46] <gnnr> Ali_nz^1, like I said earlier, I prefer to set it up on my router, if you use one.
[05:46] <simplew> ActionParsnip: in Arista i cant do a convertion using preset "Computer - H.264", then appears a dialog to search
[05:46] <ssasori> ActionParsnip: thanks for the advice, but a negative on XFCE
[05:47] <bikcmp> how do i delete a file with an - in front of it?
[05:47] <bikcmp> -blah.flv.
[05:47] <bikcmp> rm is taking it as a param.
[05:47] <bikcmp> i've tried \ and quotes.
[05:47] <Jordan_U> bikcmp: rm ./-blah.flv
[05:47] <gnnr> ssasori, have you tried lxde?
[05:47] <ssasori> however, i may have found a colution.  Cinnamon.  if that can kill the danged unity display, ill be happy as a clam
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> bikcmp: rm ./\-blah.flv
[05:47] <bikcmp> Jordan_U, ActionParsnip, worked.  thanks.
[05:48] <ssasori> gnnr: thanks, checking now
[05:48] <Jordan_U> bikcmp: Another option for difficult file names in almost any command is something like "rm -- -blah.flv" where '--' means "Stop processing flags".
[05:50] <bikcmp> Jordan_U: yeah
[05:50] <bikcmp> good one
[05:50] <bikcmp> thanks.
[05:50] <Jordan_U> bikcmp: You're welcome.
[05:50] <dsprc> ssasori: be warned that pcmanfm (the file/desktop manager of LXDE) does not play nice if nautilus is on the same box
[05:52] <m000gle> Do any international mirrors exist for the kernel DEB files available at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ? ... A mirror on the Chinese mainland would be ideal, but anywhere else in Asia could also be worth a try.
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> dsprc: not had an issue here, just need to add:   --no-desktop  to when you run it :)
[05:52] <ssasori> dsprc: cool thanks for the heads up.  going to virt ubu12.10 and try cinamon to see if it kills unity look.  so sad.... had my kubuntu all set up.... but bug after bug... sucks.  seriously though, ubu needs to bring in those widgets, those are AWESOME.
[05:54] <dsprc> ActionParsnip: had to replace it with thunar because it became so crash prone.
[05:54] <nsudo> which software allows me to open .dmg's???
[05:54] <dsprc> seems like nautilus gets jealous or lonely and fights for attention sometmes.
[05:54] <Jordan_U> nsudo: dmg2img might help you, but why do you want to open a .dmg file?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> dsprc: I'm a huge fan of pcmanfm :)
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> dsprc: it also starts trying to draw the desktop unless you tell it not to
[05:55] <nsudo> Jordan_U I have exported a movie in a dmg
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages#DMG_Images
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: In future I suggest you use ISO files, they are slightly easier to work with than apple rubbish
[05:58] <gnnr> dsprc, I have some issues with nautilus, usually go with one or the other on an install.
[05:58] <gnnr> have had
[05:59] <dsprc> ActionParsnip: ill try that and see if it helps to clear things up
[05:59] <YourTROLL> hello everybody !!
[05:59] <nsudo> ActionParsnip ok
[06:00] <gnnr> i'll have to try what you suggested
[06:00] <allquixotic> On Ubuntu 12.10, I want to have VMware fullscreen on my secondary monitor but the global menu bar at the top keeps painting over the vmware window.. can I disable the global menu for the other monitor?
[06:01] <YourTROLL> i want to learn the commands for ubuntu 12.4
[06:01] <YourTROLL> where can i find all of them ?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> YourTROLL: then use it, you will learn as you use it
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> !manual | YourTROLL
[06:02] <Malimbar> It's hard to dignify responding to someone's questions when their username is YourTROLL
[06:02] <YourTROLL> yea but i am new with ubuntu
[06:02] <Malimbar> it's like asking for trouble
[06:02] <nsudo> ActionParsnip anything to replace fcp?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> YourTROLL: thats a good start, there are tonnes of commands. I suggest you use duckduckgo and search for:  !man command     and you'll get a man page (handy)
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: what is fcp?
[06:03] <nsudo> ActionParsnip anything to replace final cut pro?
[06:03] <YourTROLL> mm okay thank you !!!
[06:03] <nsudo> ActionParsnip anything to replace final cut pro (video editor ) and motion (vfx) ?
[06:04] <Malimbar> final cut pro is a pretty high end program. Linux has video editors, but I don't know of any that wel respected
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: pitivi
[06:04] <Malimbar> pitivi is fun :)
[06:04] <ngt> ActionParsnip: I have done what was written here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591873&page=1 but unfortunately there is nowhere to manually select the driver.
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: lightworks gets awards too
[06:04] <nsudo> ActionParsnip cool
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/professional-video-editor-lightworks-shown-off
[06:06] <gnnr> ActionParsnip, lightworks is available now?
[06:07] <Malimbar> it's in limited alpha right now I think
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> gnnr: not sure
[06:07] <dsprc> blender has some tools that allow you to lay cuts on the time line and do some editing as well
[06:07] <ngt> ActionParsnip: Furthermore, when ever i tried to print a test page or something else, the status of that job is Completed yet the printer is not printing anything
[06:07] <gnnr> yea as of 31st hmm
[06:11] <nsudo> ActionParsnip Thanks
[06:11] <Jordan_U> nsudo: Right now most video editing and effects software for GNU/Linux is either frankly not up to par with what's available in the Final Cut Suite, or is only available to those working in companies making blockbuster movies.
[06:11] <gnnr> i was bad i had to run mac in a vm, to do video editing when I needed it :(
[06:12] <Malimbar> I heard you could do that only recently, and it still suprises me that you can
[06:13] <Ali_nz^1> gnnr: where do I create a hash?
[06:14] <nsudo> Jordan_U Ya so true
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> depends what you need
[06:16] <Jordan_U> nsudo: That said, the short films from the Blender foundation prove that you can still do amazing things with purely open source software. The latest being "Tears of Steel" here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6MlUcmOul8
[06:17] <gnnr> Ali_nz^1, go here: http://freedns.afraid.org/dynamic/ and click direct url
[06:17] <gnnr> in that url is a hash for your subdomain, or you can simply query that url with wget or curl
[06:21] <undriedsea> This is not working any ideas? Sender: tar c /dir netcat MYIP MYPORT , Recv: netcat -l MYPORT | tar x . Error is: tar: This does not look like a tar archive
[06:22] <nsudo> Jordan_U Ya Blender is a awesome piece of foss
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> undriedsea: ask in #bash too :)
[06:24] <undriedsea> thanks
[06:24] <Jordan_U> nsudo: And since their target was "to improve and test a complete open and free pipeline for visual effects in film", and I haven't tried their tools recently I may have to take back my earlier statement :)
[06:27] <nsudo> Jordan_U thats a good news !!
[06:30] <yoga> Hello World! Do I need to disable all the ppa before I dist-upgrade
[06:30] <yoga>        from 12.04 to 12.10?
[06:31] <nsudo> Jordan_U thats movie is awesome
[06:31] <Jordan_U> nsudo: Their others are as well, my favorit is still the first though just for story.
[06:33] <nsudo> Jordan_U does lightworks have a ppa?
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> yoga: I would as a precaution
[06:36] <nsudo> ActionParsnip how to install lightworks, ppa or terminal?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: not sure dude
[06:36] <nsudo> ActionParsnip alright!
[06:37] <phillijw> So I assigned the hostname
[06:37] <phillijw> So I assigned the hostname 'litterbox' to my machine. How can I access it over the network using this name instead of IP?
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> nsudo: i believe its a limited alpha etc
[06:38] <nsudo> ActionParsnip oh ya, they say a neta release
[06:38] <nsudo> ActionParsnip nice for ubuntu
[06:40] <nsudo> ActionParsnip Jordan_U time for apple to shut their pricy acts !
[06:40] <dsprc> phillijw: you set the name locally via /etc/hosts or you can let your router handle it via dhcp (assuming it is "intelligent" enough)
[06:40] <phillijw> my router is PfSense
[06:41] <dsprc> then it most certainly is intelligent enough :)
[06:42] <phillijw> when I do an nslookup from my windows machine it says its a non-existent domain
[06:42] <brandon420> sup guys
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> phillijw: tried a different nameserver?
[06:42] <phillijw> pfsense is my nameserver
[06:45] <dsprc> phillijw: are you doing static or dynamic ip allocation?
[06:45] <phillijw> hm.. actually it just appears to be my windows machine that's confused and can't find anything... maybe because it's being routed through wireless bullcrap
[06:45] <phillijw> dsprc, dynamic
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> phillijw: try a web based one, like 8.8.8.8
[06:45] <dsprc> did you reboot the machine or ask for a new dhcp lease after you renamed litterbox?
[06:46] <phillijw> ActionParsnip, I dont think you understand my issue. The problem exists on my internal network. Not the interwebs
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> phillijw: ahhh i ee
[06:47] <ArubaDods>  0 down vote
[06:47] <ArubaDods> 	
[06:47] <ArubaDods> I made a bootable usbdrive, with AntiX linux on it. it work fine on my new laptop. But on my Old laptop it does not. It give me the message that there is no bootabtle device (something like that).
[06:47] <ArubaDods> Is there anyone who can tells me why?
[06:47] <ArubaDods> ps. What I did was, sudo fdisk -l to see the usbdrive I wanted to make bootable sudo dd if=AntiX.iso of=/dev/sdx (in my case sdb).
[06:47] <FloodBot1> ArubaDods: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> phillijw: can you ping the dns server?
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: antiX linux isn't supported here
[06:49] <brandon420> Is there a equalizer for 12.10? Pref something that works system wide...
[06:49] <ArubaDods> ok lets say linux, because it did the same with ubuntu server
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23antix&net=Zoite
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: if you want distro independant support, try #linux
[06:49] <ArubaDods> ubuntuserver 12.04
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: it's not ubuntu server
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: the link I gave you takes you to the support channel of your distro
[06:51] <ArubaDods> i try it with both
[06:51] <thedrub> Howdy. Do we talk "Mint" on this channel?
[06:51] <wols_> !mint
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> !mint | thedrub
[06:51] <thedrub> Many thanks all
[06:52] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, You seem to know what you are doing, is there a equalizer for ubuntu 12.10?
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: like an animation based on sounds played, or one to tweak the outputted sound itself?
[06:53] <gnnr> brandon420, checkout pulseaudio-equalizer, it may not be in the main repositories
[06:53] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, to tweak the sound.
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> !info pulseaudio-equalizer
[06:53] <brandon420> gnnr, I saw something about that, but I could not find where to download it at, only a "atp install link"
[06:53] <ArubaDods> anyhow, one other question wich one is lighter the xubuntu or lubuntu?
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: Lubuntu is slightly lighter
[06:54] <dsprc> ArubaDods: lubuntu
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: if you want super light, install ubuntu minimal then install openbox (no desktop needed) :)
[06:55] <gnnr> maybe someone else has a better option, but I've been using pulseaudio-equalizer for awhile, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/webupd8/quantal/main/base/pulseaudio-equalizer
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: sudo add-apt-repositoru ppa:hbars-2/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-equalizer
[06:56] <brandon420> Thank you sir!
[06:56] <brandon420> <3
[06:56] <ArubaDods> ActionParsnip, Ok thanks a lot. I use the ubuntu server, but sometimes I want to use only the minimal requierments for watching movies, because its hooked on one of my lcd
[06:56] <thedrub> Suggestions for RTL8111/8168B wireless networking? No luck getting it functioning on an HP Pavilion dv7
[06:57] <ikt> hey, does anyone know how to get empathy to sign into jabber on login?
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: that is pretty much as light as it gets, you may want to install slim as a login manager too
[06:57] <dsprc> ArubaDods: if you want something really barebones you can use twm. i think the only dependency is that you have X and glibc
[06:57] <ArubaDods> ActionParsnip, I will test the openbox, thanks a lot. I will ask about the dd command somewhere else
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: ubuntu minimal + Xorg + openbox is about 1.2Gb installed if memory serves
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: if you use /etc/network/interfaces to configure networking you can save space there too :)
[07:01] <talpur>  Hi community...which command is used to check shell I am using in
[07:02] <talpur> bash: -/.bashrc: No such file or directory....So means I am not using bash. what is my shell? csh? zsh? how I check
[07:02] <thedrub> talpur | First "tty" to figure out your tty #. Then "ps" and look for the shell running on the tty.
[07:02] <talpur> need help comunity
[07:03] <ArubaDods> ActionParsnip, ok thanks. I was looking for e text editor to save your messages in xfce. but could not find it. I open a terminal and type gedit :-)
[07:03] <ArubaDods> dsprc, thanks for your help
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: mousepad
[07:04] <gnnr> talpur, chsh
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: you can run:  sudo ln -s `which mousepad` /usr/bin/gedit     to make life easier :)
[07:04] <dsprc> talpur: echo $SHELL
[07:04] <ArubaDods> oh! ok hahaha...thanks a lot
[07:05] <talpur> thanks thedrub.. I am biggner with ubuntu...can u write me exact command for checking...thanks gnnr and dsprc...i am trying those
[07:06] <ArubaDods> ActionParsnip, is ubuntu minimal like a iso which I can download?
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> !minimal | ArubaDods
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> ArubaDods: a simple websearch would have turned that up. Saves you having to ask......
[07:07] <thedrub> talpur: Type "tty". That lists the tty at which you are typing. Something like "/dev/ttys000", or similar. The "ps" outputs a list of processes and should have the shell name associated with the "ttysXXX". Will show "bash", "sh", etc
[07:08] <ArubaDods> haha...ok thanks
[07:08] <gnnr> did echo $shell not work?
[07:08] <ArubaDods> ActionParsnip, haha...ok thanks. will search for it
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> gnnr: with a capitall SHELL it outputs:  /bin/bash here :)
[07:10] <gnnr> derp
[07:10] <thedrub> gnnr | I didn't think $SHELL was absolutely definitive. Could be changed. Perhaps I've missed something.
[07:10] <yaung> ?
[07:10] <yaung>  
[07:10] <yaung>  
[07:10] <yaung>  
[07:11] <FloodBot1> yaung: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <gnnr> thedrub, oh was just repeating dsprc but said derp because i didn't capitalize
[07:12] <thedrub> gnnr |   :-)
[07:12] <Ali_nz^1> ActionParsnip: what was that smb share software you suggested before?
[07:14] <samuel> hello guys
[07:14] <samuel> I am trying to run Ubuntu on a macbook pro 15 inch with retina, however the fonts and icons are tiny
[07:14] <samuel> all else is well
[07:15] <samuel> is there any way to scale everything up without using a lower resolution?
[07:15] <samuel> or at least the font sizes?
[07:15] <phillijw> can anyone recommend a cli bittorrent client?
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz^1: install samba, that is what gives smb
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> samuel: make the font size bigger in the appearance configs
[07:15] <samuel> phillijw: transmission has an nurses client I believe
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> phillijw: rtorrent :)
[07:16] <Ali_nz^1> ActionParsnip: sorry I thought there was some special software you mentioned about samba users. I assume now its just part of the package
[07:16] <phillijw> samuel, what is transmission?
[07:16] <phillijw> ActionParsnip, ah nice. I think i've used that one before. Nice simple client
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> !info transmission-cli
[07:16] <samuel> ActionParsnip: I am sorry, but I must be missing something… I did look for it but its not there… I am on 12.10
[07:18] <gnnr> samuel,  System -> Preferences -> Appearance, select the Fonts tab, click the Details button
[07:18] <ArubaDods> Is there a easy way to get to a network file, using xfce? like ubuntu opening Home folder and see the link in the list 'browse network'?
[07:19] <samuel> gnnr: thanks also, but I don't seem to have a fonts tab
[07:19] <samuel> I am using a "stock" ubuntu install, might I be missing something?
[07:21] <gnnr> samuel, apologies, I am not on 12.10. It appears you might want to install Gnome Tweak Tool/Advanced Settings because Gnome has removed some of it's advanced settings by default. You can also try a different window manager
[07:23] <linux_is_my_hero> I just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and all of a sudden my gui looks different and everything is slow and the resolution is definately off
[07:23] <samuel> gnnr: thanks for the info, I will try those. Do you have any idea on what WM might handle a high DPI display better? I have tried gnome-shell and unity but they don't do so well yet.
[07:23] <gnnr> samuel, I am a fan of lxde or xfce
[07:24] <samuel> xfce works with a high resolution screen?
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> samuel: or install gnome-tweak-tool and tweak there
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> samuel: sure
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> samuel: you could set a higher DPI too and things will get bigger too
[07:25] <samuel> ActionParsnip: thanks, I will try xfce and the tweak tool
[07:25] <samuel> ActionParsnip: I did try that, but no luck
[07:25] <samuel> in xorg.conf
[07:25] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: why would upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 affect my graphics drivers?
[07:25] <samuel> I doubled the DPI hoping that it would make it a quarter as big, but nothing seemed to change
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: sure, you will also get a later XOrg version as well, it all contributes
[07:26] <p0is0n> can anyone link me to a good tutorial for starting programs automatically upon startup, or give me a quick rundown?
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> samuel: I'd go for setting the font larger, should make things look sure smooth
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> p0is0n: there is a startup items manager in dash
[07:26] <samuel> thanks very much
[07:27] <talpur> thanks. thedrub,gnnr and dsprc..talpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ chsh
[07:27] <talpur> Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
[07:27] <talpur> 	Login Shell [/bin/bash]:
[07:27] <talpur> talpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ echo $SHELL  /bin/bash
[07:27] <talpur> talpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ tty
[07:27] <FloodBot1> talpur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:27] <screwsss> hey, this is dumb asking this here since its to do with windows, but is it better to keep an OS on a seperate partition, or just have the lot on the 1 hard drive.
[07:27] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: by default in 11.10 and 12.04 i had to tell it to use the nVidea drivers but there was a place to do that under system settings.  this is gunna sound really stupid, but where did it go?
[07:27] <p0is0n> ActionParsnip, I'm using server version so i don't have a gui
[07:27] <talpur> thanks thedrub, gnnr and dsprc
[07:28] <talpur> talpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ chsh
[07:28] <talpur> Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
[07:28] <talpur> 	Login Shell [/bin/bash]:
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> p0is0n: you can add commands in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line and it will run as root
[07:28] <talpur> talpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ echo $SHELL  /bin/bash
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> p0is0n: if the command will run for a long time, add an ampersand to the end of the line so that it gets backgrounded and doesn't hang the bootup
[07:29] <talpur> talpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ tty
[07:30] <talpur> talpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~$ ps
[07:30] <talpur>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[07:30] <talpur>  2336 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[07:30] <talpur>  2427 pts/0    00:00:00 ps
[07:30] <FloodBot1> talpur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <LordOfTime> !pastebin | talpur
[07:30] <p0is0n> ActionParsnip, for example if I want to execute a python script, can I type 'python File.py &&' and it will execute on startup?
[07:31] <ArubaDods> ActionParsnip, Nice mini.iso, I have made a bootable usb using that iso with the dd command. And it worked! I am going to play around a little. :-) Thanks a lot.
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> p0is0n: yes but you only need one ampersand. If you mark the file as executable you can just name the file and can omit the 'python' word
[07:33] <Ali_nz^1> ActionParsnip: Ok. Samba installed and created a share in smb.conf and set security = user
[07:33] <p0is0n> ActionParsnip, thanks mate. I'll have a read up on exact syntax
[07:34] <Ali_nz^1> now how do I create a Samba user that can access only that folder?
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz^1: sudo smbpasswd -a name
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> Ali_nz^1: you can then add: allowed users = name   and so forth
[07:39] <devish> hi all, i had one question in sleep XX what is the type (ms or sec)?
[07:39] <llutz_> devish: sec
[07:39] <devish> llutz_: thanks
[07:39] <llutz_> devish: "man sleep"
[07:43]  * dsprc man sleep. hacker caffeine. ugh.
[07:54] <XiaolinDraconis> i have a laptop that i believe needs this package (its what i used before) http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/multiverse/base/firmware-b43-installer, what do i need to download so i can transfer it via usb drive?
[07:56] <XiaolinDraconis> i got lost when it required fw cutter package, i went to the package at ubuntuupdates.org and that told me the package was an umbrella
[07:56] <XiaolinDraconis> no clue what that means
[07:57] <dsprc> !b43
[07:57] <XiaolinDraconis> this was so much easier when i let the software center handle dependencies
[07:57] <wols_> XiaolinDraconis: that package is actually a script which downloads more software to extract firmware from it
[07:57] <wols_> XiaolinDraconis: you still can
[07:57] <XiaolinDraconis> no i cant
[07:57] <wols_> !info firmware-b43-installer
[07:57] <wols_> you can
[07:57] <XiaolinDraconis> that would require an internet connection
[07:57] <XiaolinDraconis> ...
[07:58] <wols_> use your ethernet then
[07:58] <XiaolinDraconis> thats not available this time around
[07:58] <Zlasher> Hi! I'm having problem with installing Ubuntu on a SD card
[07:59] <Zlasher> It seems like the card is remounted during installation and changes mount name
[08:00] <XiaolinDraconis> would this package not require an internet connection? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/broadcom-sta_5.100.82.112-4.debian.tar.gz
[08:01] <nokia> file transfer speeds. Is this normal. 2gb mp4 file ext4 to ext4 = 5 seconds the same file ext4 to ntfs 2 minutes+ ?
[08:01] <XiaolinDraconis> or is that going to need to download stuff too?
[08:01] <wols_> XiaolinDraconis: it's not a driver
[08:01] <wols_> it's a firmware
[08:01] <crimsonmane> nokia: that's normal.
[08:01] <wols_> nokia: yes. ntfs is a user space filesystem
[08:02] <XiaolinDraconis> then that makes the information at this page useless, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20No%20Internet%20access
[08:02] <wols_> nokia: it's not 5 seconds either unless it's from SSD to SSD
[08:02] <wols_> XiaolinDraconis: it's not. stop whining
[08:03] <XiaolinDraconis> stop being purposely unhelpful
[08:03] <Jordan_U> nokia: No, it's not normal for there to be a descrepency that large between ntfs and ext4, but you're probably misinterpreting what you're seeing.
[08:03] <wols_> have a nice day. good luck with your problem. PS: remember, _you_ need help from us
[08:04] <phunyguy_> well that isnt very nice.
[08:04] <XiaolinDraconis> i need help from helpful people, not someone who is going to give me the run around
[08:04] <XiaolinDraconis> vague is not a sexy look
[08:05] <wols_> !errors ! Zlasher
[08:05] <wols_> Zlasher: a sdcard is (usually) just a mass storage device like any other, so it shouldn't make any trouble. but you need to be more specific for people to help you
[08:05] <phunyguy_x1> fail.
[08:06] <hugo> hugo
[08:06] <Jordan_U> nokia: If you had run "sync" after making that "5 second" copy from ext4 to ext4 you probably would have had to wait at least two minutes for "sync" to complete (which means that all data is actually on disk). I'm guessing that you did the ext4 to ntfs copy either after the ext4 to ext4 copy (so the original transaction, which was in memory but not committed to disk was taking up RAM) or for other reasons didn't have much free RAM ...
[08:06] <Jordan_U> ... for the transaction to be cached in.
[08:07] <wols_> Jordan_U: could be that ntfs is always synced to preven corruption issues or maybe it has to be since it's userspace
[08:07] <Zlasher> wols_, How can I be more specific? It doesn't work because the card get remounted?
[08:07] <handuel> 'ello
[08:07] <Jordan_U> wols_: I doubt that either is the case but I can't say for sure.
[08:07] <wols_> when does the error occur, how do you know it's remounted, what is the error message, etc. lots of things you don't mention
[08:08] <phunyguy_x1> wols_, relax.  We are here to help, not berate.
[08:08] <wols_> phunyguy_x1: do you have a ubuntu related problem?
[08:09] <XiaolinDraconis> wols_, do you have an attitude problem?
[08:09] <phunyguy_x1> :-/
[08:09]  * phunyguy_x1 hands wols_ a beer.
[08:11] <handuel> to be fair on wols_ it is hideously annoying when someone asks a question without giving information
[08:11] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: What error messages are you seeing from Ubiquity (Ubuntu's installer)? How are you checking the mountpoint?
[08:11] <Zlasher> The error happens during different phases during the installation depending on when it gets remounted. I don't remember the exact error message but it was something with that the device wasn't  reachable or available
[08:12] <wols_> that sounds more like your controller or card craps out and gets non responsive
[08:12] <phunyguy_x1> handuel, also to be fair, all questions are welcome, and if info is needed, it can be requested.
[08:12] <handuel> it happens a lot on launchpad, you just get people going "ubuntu is broken" and expect us to know what to do from that
[08:12] <Zlasher> I get thown back to the paritioning step and there I see that the number in the mount name has increased
[08:12] <phunyguy_x1> this is ubuntu support, not gentoo.
[08:12] <wols_> Zlasher: what device name exactly has "increased"?
[08:12] <Zlasher> sda#
[08:12] <wols_> !ot | phunyguy_x1
[08:13] <wols_> Zlasher: that number at the end cannot increase
[08:13] <Zlasher> Cannot?
[08:13] <wols_> a partition is always sda1 and never can be sda2 unless you purposely rewrite the partition table
[08:13] <wols_> yes cannot
[08:13] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: That number is the partition number, it can only change if the partition table changes.
[08:13] <dsprc> Zlasher: after you add a partition to sda it will be sda1. then add another it will be sda2 etc etc
[08:14] <arunkumar413> hi, i want to pinch zoom using the touch pad. How can i do it in ubuntu
[08:14] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg" after a failure?
[08:14] <Zlasher> But it reset when I restart the installation
[08:14] <wols_> Zlasher: sure. if you create a new partition only
[08:15] <dsprc> !pastebin | Zlasher
[08:15] <talpur> I need help comunity to reslove the problem
[08:15] <talpur> talpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:/mnt$ sudo chroot -
[08:15] <talpur> chroot: cannot change root directory to -: No such file or directory
[08:15] <llutz_> talpur: path missing, "-" isn't a valind path to chroot to most likely
[08:15] <wols_> talpur: you need to chroot to a directory. like "sudo chroot /mnt/tmp" and this directory must actually exist
[08:15] <Jordan_U> talpur: You can't chroot into stdin, it doesn't even make sense. What is your end goal?
[08:15] <XiaolinDraconis> wols_, http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/96885-has-anyone-noticed-ubuntu-s-forums-and-irc-rooms-have-gotten-ruder
[08:15] <phunyguy_x1> wols_ I know what this channel is for, but you don't have to be rude to everyone that may or may not know the proper question-asking procedures.
[08:16] <phunyguy_x1> I've said my piece.
[08:16] <Zlasher> The error message and the dmsg. Should I get anything more when I'm already at it?
[08:16] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: Screenshots of the partitioning screen in the installer before and after would be good.
[08:17] <khussein78> I am go back to use classic gnome with ubuntu 12.04 but switching between opened windows by alt + tab not working ?
[08:17] <handuel> talpur do you want chroot .
[08:17] <handuel> it chroots to the current directory
[08:17] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: To get those you'll need to chose the "Try without installing" option (which, despite how it sounds, still allows you to start the installer from the Desktop, but in a window where you can access other tools like the screenshot tool).
[08:17] <talpur> wols and Jordan I am working with GEM5 ....I follow ths steps for images using qemu and follow the steps given about that in youtube video
[08:18] <Jordan_U> talpur: Please link to the instructions you're following.
[08:18] <wols_> talpur: then give us the youtube video link and tell us at which timestamp that instruction occurs
[08:18] <BWorld> Hi there, is there someone known with the GTX670-DC2-2GD5 graphics card having no transparency? I have installed the nvidia drivers but still no transparency..
[08:18] <Jordan_U> !tab | talpur
[08:18] <Zlasher> Jordan_U, Thanks!! Will do!
[08:19] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: You're welcome :)
[08:20] <wols_> BWorld: how do you check this transparency?
[08:21] <talpur> ok . the video is"www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh3NK12fnbg" working with image file useing qemu...@ timestemp 5 minutes
[08:21] <BWorld> wols_, the dash is black, I turned on transparency in terminal as well and it is transparent but I only see the desktop while there is actually another application running behind the terminal
[08:22] <wols_> talpur: "sudo chroot ." is what is written there
[08:22] <talpur> I am watching video on other system so I write the link. at my place youtube is blocked so I use hotspot at other system
[08:22] <talpur> wols sorry I couldn't understand what u want to know
[08:23] <talpur> wols thanks...I was using - instead of fullstop .
[08:23] <BWorld> wols_, do you think you know what the problem is?
[08:23] <wols_> talpur: I don't want to know anything. the command there is "sudo chroot ." a dot, not -
[08:23] <talpur> thanks wols its working
[08:24] <handuel> lol I told him that five minutes ago
[08:24] <talpur> yes Wols  I understand
[08:25] <talpur> wols this is the actually problem I got in some other statments also....I am very much thank full wols and Jordan_U for response
[08:25] <dsprc> BWorld: that is the default pseudo transparency. i think you need to enable the 3D effects for "real" transpar
[08:25] <Jordan_U> talpur: You're welcome.
[08:26] <wols_> BWorld: glxinfo |grep -i render
[08:26] <BWorld> dsprc, Hmm, is there an easy way to do this you know of?
[08:27] <BWorld> wols_, here is output: http://pastebin.com/mtaUYX88
[08:29] <dsprc> BWorld: not a clue how it is usually done these days. used to just right click the desktop and could do it from there
[08:29] <BWorld> dsprc, this easy... haha will try
[08:30] <dsprc> BWorld: dont know if the options are still there. havent used the "default" DE/WM setup for a while
[08:33] <BWorld> dsprc, option is not there... looked into my nvidia settings and in my compiz UI as well but no luck there either...
[08:34] <BWorld> dsprc, is this setting '3d settings' google-able because when I google on it how to enable it I get results related to compiz but I dont think this is relevant ...
[08:37] <BWorld> dsprc, I will try another driver from the 'Additional drivers' window, need to reboot, thanks for help so far
[08:37] <Fekkuo> I need help. I have two Ubuntu systems installed, the second one installed GRUB. Now I want to delete the second one, but I'm afraid that may remove GRUB and I'll be unable to boot the old system. What should I do? Is there a command line for that?
[08:38] <bekks> Fekkuo: Just boot into the first one, install a boot loader, and delete the second one.
[08:39] <blackshirt> bekks, just tell the grub not loading second one
[08:39] <Fekkuo> Is there a command line to install the bootloader, honorable bekks?
[08:39] <blackshirt> bekks, sorry for worng notice
[08:39] <blackshirt> :d
[08:40] <Fekkuo> =d
[08:40] <bekks> blackshirt: Thats not that easy. Because when you delete the second one, and you delete the /boot that grub relies on, you get a broken system.
[08:40] <bekks> blackshirt: Fekkuo: Thats why I said to properly install a boot loader from the first one.
[08:41] <Jordan_U> Fekkuo: "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX" where "sdX" is the drive you want to install grub's boot sector to, and should be something like "sda" or "sdb" but *not* a partition like "sda1".
[08:42] <XiaolinDraconis> is there a way to make 12.04 search usb drive for packages?
[08:42] <Jordan_U> Fekkuo: You should also have a LiveCD/USB on hand just in case, and if something goes wrong you can follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot .
[08:43] <XiaolinDraconis> ive gotten every deb file i could possibly need to install this wireless driver, but they all need fwcutter and it requires internet to get the drivers i already have on usb
[08:43] <Fekkuo> Jordan-U; I've tried that once and it said it's a BAD idea; only if I used blocklists, and it said it's unreliable.
[08:44] <Jordan_U> Fekkuo: You probably passed grub-install the wrong device. Again, it should be a drive (like /dev/sda) not a partition (like /dev/sda1).
[08:44] <mah454> Hello
[08:44] <Fekkuo> I was thinking of deleting the second system with Gparted and running "$ sudo update-grub" or something, to see what happens. But I'm really afraid it doesn't work and I will have broken system.
[08:45] <Fekkuo> OH!
[08:45] <gordonjcp> Fekkuo: the worst thing that'll happen is you get to reinstall
[08:45] <mah454> I want to compile new kernel (3.6.4) but make initrd image in very big size !
[08:45] <mah454> about 130M
[08:45] <Jordan_U> Fekkuo: update-grub only re-writes /boot/grub/grub.cfg , which doesn't help you here.
[08:45] <bekks> Fekkuo: Then create a bootable USB medium as Jordan_U suggested - that will leave a chance to get your system back.
[08:45] <mah454> How can fix this problem ?
[08:45] <Fekkuo> Jordan_U: Easy like that :o
[08:45] <bekks> mah454: Why is a 130M initrd a problem to you?
[08:45] <Jordan_U> Fekkuo: I don't understand your last comment.
[08:46] <mah454> bekks: default is about 40M
[08:46] <peacock_> !ot
[08:46] <asilhouette> my wireless sucks with the new linux kernel, what should i do?
[08:46] <Fekkuo> Jordan_U; bekks; blackshirt: sorry for taking your time. Thank you so much.
[08:46] <wols_> asilhouette: which wlan chip?
[08:46] <bekks> mah454: And why is that critical to you then? The initrd size is determined by all the modules you activated for being compiled.
[08:47] <bekks> asilhouette: Which new kernel?
[08:47] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access
[08:47] <Fekkuo> I ran '$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda' and it worked.
[08:47] <Jordan_U> Fekkuo: No problem , you're welcome :)
[08:47] <asilhouette> beks wols_ 3.5 kernel gives problem, with rt2800usb
[08:48] <bekks> asilhouette: Which kernel (update) exactly do you mean?
[08:48] <asilhouette> linux 3.5 that came with ubuntu 12.10 update, bekks
[08:49] <asilhouette> i don't quite remember the exact version after 3.5
[08:49] <wols_> asilhouette: uname -a tells you the exact version
[08:50] <asilhouette> w8 update grub gives the linux versions
[08:50] <asilhouette> i'm on 3.2 right now
[08:50] <asilhouette> 3.5.0-17-generic is the one giving me problem. bekks wols_
[08:51] <mah454> bekks: edit /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf and change MODULES=most to MODULES=dep
[08:51] <mah454> fixed !
[08:51] <asilhouette> the network manager connects but the the signal dissapears with signal strength going unknown and iwconfig doesn't think the driver is connected to anything
[08:52] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, the proprietary package (wl) mentioned in that article does not work on my laptop, i need to install b43-firmware-installer, which doesnt seem to be listed in the "no internet access" section
[08:53] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, ive had that article as well as 3 or 4 other tabs open for the last hour, reading away and attempting what i can, it seems like i have no choice but to install this fwcutter package
[08:53] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, going on 2 hours now
[08:54] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: The b43 driver is the *only* one mentioned in the "no internet access" section.
[08:55] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, thats the proprietary driver and it doesnt work
[08:55] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: No, b43 is the open source driver.
[08:56] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, my apologies, i just realized i had the STA no internet page open
[08:57] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: np :)
[08:57] <lkthomas-home> hey guys
[08:57] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, ive already gotten the fwcutter package like these instructions mention but the "install" button in software center will not let me click it
[08:58] <lkthomas-home> plasma desktop is very buggy, if I want to use traditional full desktop, what should I install ?
[08:58] <bekks> lkthomas-home: x/l/ubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <lkthomas-home> which one is KDE ?
[08:59] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, strike that, i see why
[08:59] <asilhouette> any help with linux kernel 3.5.0-17 problem with rt2800usb wireless driver
[08:59] <dsprc> XiaolinDraconis: if you have manually gathered up all the dependencies you can install them with dpkg
[08:59] <XiaolinDraconis> dsprc, thanks thats the step i just got to
[08:59] <asilhouette> works fine with 3.2.0.32
[08:59] <lkthomas-home> bekks: I don't want to use plasma workspace, any other KDE desktop I could use ?
[09:00] <bekks> lkthomas-home: There is only one KDE desktop.
[09:00] <talpur> Wols and Jordan....I need the help in video of which I send the link at timestamp 6:12 author use the scp..can you help me to understand that command: root@bpayne-Virtualbox64:/#  scp bpayne@10.10.10.129:/home/bpayne/bench.c
[09:01] <lkthomas-home> bekks: it's all replaced by KDE plasmaworkspace ?!
[09:01] <bekks> talpur: That command is invalid - at least one option is missing.
[09:01] <bekks> lkthomas-home: Starting with kde 4.x, plasma is the default desktop.
[09:02] <lkthomas-home> bekks: is that possible to NOT use plasma ?
[09:02] <talpur> root@bpayne-Virtualbox64:/#  scp bpayne@10.10.10.129:/home/bpayne/bench.c .  bekks now see
[09:02] <dsprc> talpur: scp user@server:/path/to/remote/file   /path/to/local/dir/
[09:03] <bekks> talpur: It securly copies the file /home/bpayne/bench.c from the host 10.10.10.129 to your current directory.
[09:03] <bekks> lkthomas-home: No.
[09:03] <bekks> lkthomas-home: Just use another desktop environment.
[09:04] <talpur> thanks bekks....its not working I try it agian
[09:04] <dsprc> bekks: or not use one at all. framebuffer console is quite comfy.
[09:06] <5EXAADXDZ> hi .. you know whta vesrion of glibc is in ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10?
[09:06] <talpur> bekks is for local server for the user bpayne or from my prompt I also use the same cammnad...
[09:07] <bekks> talpur: I dont understand you last comment.
[09:07] <Zlasher> Okey! I now have the dmesg http://pastebin.com/82CjMKA2 and screenshots http://i.imgur.com/eRZBZ.png
[09:07] <lkthomas-home> crap, whenever I click "Page One" on plasma desktop, it hangs
[09:07] <dsprc> talpur: see my last comment. the 'user@server' would be your login on the remote system
[09:10] <Zlasher> Jordan_U, Still there?
[09:11] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: Yes.
[09:11] <Zlasher> Jordan_U: I now have the dmesg http://pastebin.com/82CjMKA2 and screenshots http://i.imgur.com/eRZBZ.png
[09:14] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: It looks like there was a hardware failure.
[09:14] <Zlasher> I think it's a driver issue
[09:14] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: Are you sure that the SD card and the SD card reader are good?
[09:14] <Zlasher> Is there any way to check the sectors of the sd card?
[09:15] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: Not likely, all SD card readers present themselves as USB Mass Storage devices, and the drivers for those are very mature.
[09:15] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: You can use a command called "badblocks".
[09:15] <Zlasher> I've used the reader with a smaller card a long time ago
[09:15] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, is step 3 of those instructions expecting me to extract the tar to /lib? so far the instructions say to extract to home folder but then step  3 says to run the command on a file in /lib
[09:15] <Zlasher> And the card in another reader just a couple of days ago and it worked fine
[09:17] <Hrki> hi, where i can simply add scripts that i want autorun on system up
[09:17] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: I've personally had a lot of bad luck with SD cards.
[09:17] <Zlasher> Jordan_U, Oh! I almost forgot! I installed Ubuntu on this card with another computer not long time ago, but that time the Grub installation screwed up my windows drive
[09:18] <Zlasher> Jordan_U, Lot's of people say that and I can now do the same xD
[09:18] <lkthomas-home> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2075349
[09:18] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: That is correct, the firmware needs to go into /lib/firmware/ for the driver to be able to find it.
[09:19] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: It can't hurt to confirm with badblocks (while the option for a read/write test could add wear to the card, the default read-only test shouldn't).
[09:19] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, thought that was the case but i tend to follow instructions to the tee, when i understand them that is. thanks for the info
[09:19] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: You're welcome.
[09:20] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: Wait, I may have misunderstood your question. The instructions as written are correct.
[09:20] <lkthomas-home> guys, does KDE have anything for social networking like facebook widget ?
[09:21] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, ill double check what i am reading and get right back to you
[09:22] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: You extract the tar to the current directory, then b43-fwcutter reads the driver from the current directory, extracts the firmware from the driver, and saves the firmware in /lib/firmware/ .
[09:22] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[09:22] <talpur> when I use the commnad this Error Occurs. root@talpur-Inspiron-1564:/# scp bpayne@10.10.10.129:/home/bpayne/bench.c .
[09:22] <talpur> ssh: connect to host 10.10.10.129 port 22: Connection timed out
[09:22] <Zlasher> Jordan_U, When I do the installation? Or now?
[09:23] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, ok so ill need to cd into the directory and run fwcutter command on the file?
[09:23] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: Now, just so that I can confirm the device name so I can give you an exact badblocks command.
[09:24] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, ok cd wouldnt be necessary if i extract it to home
[09:24] <talpur> Hi community can u help me to recognize the reason of Error root@talpur-Inspiron-1564:/# scp bpayne@10.10.10.129:/home/bpayne/bench.c .
[09:24] <talpur> ssh: connect to host 10.10.10.129 port 22: Connection timed out
[09:24] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: No. Follow the instructions exactly as given and it should work.
[09:25] <llutz_> talpur:what os/distro are you running on 10.10.10.129?
[09:26] <talpur> llutz: I follow the Video on youtube for Gem5 image file using qemu
[09:26] <llutz_> talpur: you have installed ssh-server there and checked it is running? you have a user named bpayne on that host?
[09:27] <talpur> the author of video said using bench marks he built is running
[09:28] <lkthomas-home> any shortcut key for search and launch on kde 4.9 ?
[09:28] <talpur> llutz: no my user name is talpur...So what will be my command on my system...how check the server as already said me bekk:
[09:29] <Zlasher> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/LpPkgGhv
[09:29] <llutz_> talpur: login at the server, run "sudo lsof -i :22". you want to read some basic tutorials on ssh/sscp usage aswell
[09:29] <llutz_> scp*
[09:30] <llutz_> talpur: blindly typing what you see in an obscure youtube-video won't bring you anywhere. try to _understand_ what the guy does
[09:31] <apg> Guys, I would like ask a question regarding ext4. Do you consider it mature enough? I read news about some bug related to ext3
[09:31] <apg> sorry it should be some bug related to ext4
[09:32] <Jeregge343> my micro and speaker doesn't work.  i yesterday  install ubuntu. what i must do with it
[09:32] <talpur> llutz: thanks for your valuable suggestion
[09:32] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: I'm going to guess from that that your SD card is /dev/sdb, but it's not clear from that output.
[09:33] <Zlasher> Jordan_U, It is
[09:33] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: OK. Try running "sudo badblocks -v /dev/sdb".
[09:34] <talpur> how I check the IP of my system from command prompt
[09:34] <llutz_> talpur: ip addr show
[09:36] <llutz_> apg: ext4 is stable and fine. if you refer to the latest ext4-bug, you want to read about the conditions it _may_ occur and how big the chances are, that you will be affected by it. also there's a bugfix out
[09:36] <talpur> llutz: it shows the big detail...I couldn't recognize my system Ip....sorry to bother u again and agian
[09:37] <llutz_> talpur: what iface are you using?
[09:37] <talpur> terminal based
[09:38] <llutz_> talpur: eth0,wlan0, ppp0? ip addr show eth0   <- replace this by your network-iface in use
[09:38] <talpur> thanks llutz:
[09:39] <XiaolinDraconis> Jordan_U, stuck at step 4, opened additional drivers and nothing shows up, the broadcom file was copied to my home folder and i copied and pasted the 2 commands
[09:39] <llutz_> talpur: or just watch the output from before, search the block containing your iface and search for "inet..." theres an ip-address shown (most likely)
[09:40] <Jordan_U> XiaolinDraconis: Try simply using modprobe as they explain for LiveCD/USB environments.
[09:41] <Zlasher> Jordan_U, Does badblocks output bad blocks?
[09:42] <arunkumar413> how to pinch zoom in ubuntu
[09:43] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: Yes.
[09:43] <Zlasher> Jordan_U, Then I have a *** load of bad blocks
[09:43] <Zlasher> The buffer is filled
[09:44] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: That confirms it then.
[09:44] <Zlasher> Jordan_U, Is there any way to test this on Windows too? Do you think cygwin can run badblocks?
[09:45] <Zlasher> Because my other computer, the one were the card ran fine, is running windows
[09:45] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: I am sure that there are equivalent utilities on Windows, and badblocks itself is probably available via cygwin also.
[09:46] <Jordan_U> Zlasher: For that though ask in ##windows.
[09:46] <Zlasher> I'll test that too
[09:46] <Zlasher> Big thanks!
[09:46] <Zlasher> I'll leave for lunch now
[09:46] <snoozie> Jordan_U, you are a genius. thanks for the help once again
[09:47] <snoozie> Jordan_U, my girl will be happy she doesnt have to use windows anymore
[09:47] <Zlasher> I completely agree with snoozie! Thanks for sharing you knowledge!
[09:47] <Jordan_U> snoozie: You're welcome, though I don't remember at the moment what I helped you with :)
[09:47] <snoozie> XiaolinDraconis
[09:48] <Jordan_U> snoozie: Ahh. You're welcome :)
[09:48] <phong_> how to make bittorrent as default program?
[09:48] <phong_> instead of transmission
[09:50] <arunkumar413> where do i find the ubuntu merchandise design files
[09:51] <Ritlee> looking for scripting help
[09:51] <smw> Ritlee, so ask the question
[09:52] <coz_> Ritlee,  I am not much with scripting, however, if no one here has any helping advice you can also try the ##linux channel
[09:52] <coz_> sonic_ was mucj nicer :)
[09:52] <llutz_> Ritlee: #bash  for bash-scripting help
[09:52] <smw> Ritlee, if you don't ask a question, you are unlikely to get much help :-)
[09:52] <Ritlee> ahh ty llutz
[09:53] <Ritlee> lol sorry was pasting the script into pastebin
[09:53] <Ritlee> so I have a conditional in there and I wan it to work with this condition or that condition
[09:53] <Ritlee> http://pastebin.com/182wzQf8
[09:54] <smw> Ritlee, what do you mean?
[09:54] <Ritlee> Line 8 is where the condition resides
[09:55] <Ritlee> I would like to have one or the other condition to work ie, [[ $file1 =~ S(..)E(..) ]] or [[ $file1 =~ (..)x(..) ]]
[09:56] <Ritlee> for the ONE condition if it's true I continue it with && but I want if this condition is true or that condition is true
[09:56] <smw> ( [[ $file1 =~ S(..)E(..) ]] || [[ $file1 =~ (..)x(..) ]])
[09:57] <Jordan_U> Ritlee: That code is frankly almost unreadable. Please add comments, use $() instead of ``, and unless you have something preventing you from doing so replace your while loop with "for file in *.mp4 *.avi; do".
[09:57] <Ritlee> with the () surrounding it I can continue the && ?
[09:57] <slopjong> if I choose a partition for the bootloader, is the mbr then untouched?
[09:57] <smw> Ritlee, yes
[09:57] <exan> hey guys, i just added a few commands to my rc.local but doesn't seem to work
[09:57] <exan> can anyone take a look at this and tell me what I did wrong? http://pastebin.com/ayfzwwNj
[09:58] <slopjong> I'm installing ubuntu aside arch linux and I prefer to add the grub entries myself
[09:58] <bekks> exan: You did not use absolute paths for your commands.
[09:58] <MasterOfDisaster> exan: try bash -xv /etc/rc.local to troubleshoot
[09:58] <Jordan_U> slopjong: The partition table will still be changed if you add/resize any partitions, but the boot code won't change. Why don't you want to change the MBR though (The MBR is the correct place for grub's boot sector).
[09:58] <slopjong> i already created it in arch
[09:58] <Ritlee> thank you, both of you
[09:58] <exan> bekks, can you explain what you mean please? I'm new to this.
[09:59] <bekks> exan: MasterOfDisaster: whe the rc.local is executed, there is no environment, and no $PATH set.
[09:59] <slopjong> Jordan_U, because there's already a bootloader
[09:59] <bekks> exan: Use /usr/bin/python instead of python. Use the full path.
[09:59] <exan> oh right. even the sabnzbd command didn't work
[09:59] <Jordan_U> slopjong: What bootloader? Why do you want that bootloader in the MBR rather than grub?
[09:59] <exan> usually that's all I have to type into a session
[09:59] <slopjong> grub2 ;-)
[09:59] <MasterOfDisaster> exan: and don't forget, it
[10:00] <MasterOfDisaster> 's running as root
[10:00] <smw> Ritlee, [[ 1 == 0 || 2 == 2 ]] also works
[10:00] <smw> Ritlee, with the || in the test
[10:00] <exan> MasterOfDisaster, does that mean sab would be started as root user?
[10:00] <MasterOfDisaster> exan: yes
[10:00] <bekks> exan: correct.
[10:00] <exan> oh I don't want that. thanks
[10:01] <exan> maybe back to the drawing board..
[10:01] <MasterOfDisaster> exan: you could use sudo -u <user>, but I'd suggest launching software at user logon
[10:01] <slopjong> Jordan_U, there's no option "none" so I have to choose the most appropriate select option in my case
[10:01] <Jordan_U> slopjong: If you're using grub as your primary bootloader anyway then you don't need a boot sector anywhere, you can (and should) load grub via multiboot rather than chainloading. So for that case it makes sense to tell Ubuntu's installer to install grub's boot sector to a partition, not because you'll actually every *use* that partition's boot record, but as a way to get it to create a /boot/grub/core.img without complaining or ...
[10:01] <MasterOfDisaster> exan: e.g. .xinitrc, .kde/Autostart/*, etc.
[10:02] <Jordan_U> ... modifying the MBR.
[10:02] <exan> MasterOfDisaster, I'm running ubuntu server so I don't ever logon except via ssh
[10:02] <marcus> anyone know how to get a working screenshot taker ? lubuntu 12.10, i tried 3 of them but they wont 1. use hotkeys or 2. crop the picture from selection..
[10:03] <slopjong> ok thanks for the confirmation that the mbr remains untouched :)
[10:03] <Jordan_U> slopjong: Then indeed, your Ubuntu partition is as good as "none".
[10:03] <MasterOfDisaster> exan: ok, then sudo it is. have a look at upstart as well, launching a service that way is piece of cake (/etc/init/*)
[10:03] <coz_> marcus,  there are a few out there including gimp,, let me check
[10:03] <Jordan_U> slopjong: You're welcome :)
[10:03] <marcus> screenshot taker, not screenshot editing software..
[10:04] <coz_> marcus,  gimp also takes screenshots  but hold on
[10:04] <MasterOfDisaster> marcus: I'm using ksnapshot
[10:04] <exan> MasterOfDisaster, I just looked at upstart.. looks promising, thanks :)
[10:04] <coz_> marcus,   mtpaint takes screenshots for one
[10:05] <marcus> k i try if any work..
[10:05] <MasterOfDisaster> exan: it's the ubuntu way of launching services, so this is to be prefered over traditional system v or rc.local
[10:05] <coz_> marcus,   here is a link to read   http://www.lubuntutips.com/2011/12/lubuntu-screenshots.html#.UJY9yXZhNTM
[10:05] <exan> MasterOfDisaster, thanks for the tip :)
[10:07] <coz_> marcus,  I have seen mtpaint mentioned a few times for lubuntu screenshots
[10:08] <coz_> marcus,  I am installing it now to test
[10:09] <bekks> coz_: Pressing "print screen" on your keyboard should trigger the default screenshot application.
[10:09] <marcus> kk, im trying the tutorial, @master~ ksnapshot didnt work with print screen...
[10:09] <coz_> bekks,  yes it should,  he will need an editor however for croping etc
[10:11] <paolo> buongiorno a tutti
[10:14] <marcus> coz, i want no gui to start, auto cropped and prt screen, possible ?.. :{ to capture fast in games
[10:14] <coz_> MarcelT3,  ttesting it now but cant find screenshot option,, are you runniing compiz?
[10:15] <coz_> MarcelT3,  sorry
[10:15] <coz_> marcus that was for you
[10:15] <marcus> kk
[10:15] <marcus> dont know
[10:15] <marcus> i use scrot on print screen, but dont know autocrop :{
[10:16] <coz_> marcus,   mm,, I know compiz has a cool screenshot tool ,, drag over the area to be captured,, and gimp,, also,, gimp 2.8 but you need a PPA  for that
[10:16] <marcus> i have gimp
[10:16] <marcus> 2.8.. xd
[10:17] <marcus> ??
[10:17] <esel-pc> Hi all
[10:17] <coz_> marcus,   I think under File --> Create --> Screenshot,, but let me check gimp 2.8 here hold on
[10:17] <talpur> Hi comunity I am trying to copy bench.c from the remote user ip 10.10.10.129 I know the user name but when I use the command scp username@10.10.10.129:/mycomputer/ bench.c .          now error occurs ssh: connect to host 10.10.10.129 port 22: Connection timed out
[10:18] <esel-pc> spricht hier einer deutsch
[10:18] <marcus> ok, possible fast ?
[10:18] <bekks> !de | esel-pc
[10:18] <coz_> marcus,   it works fine in gimp,, and fast  and it opens immediately in gimp for edition
[10:18] <coz_> marcus,   editing rather
[10:18] <esel-pc> ok thanks
[10:18] <bekks> talpur: Your host 10.10.10.129 does not provide a SSH server.
[10:18] <marcus> need auto edit XDD
[10:19] <coz_> mm
[10:19] <coz_> marcus,  out of curiosity,  in terminal    type   compiz  --version
[10:19] <talpur> Bekk:..So what should other way to copy from that host if doesn't have ssh
[10:20] <marcus> compiz not installed
[10:20] <coz_> marcus,  ah ok
[10:21] <talpur> bekks: So how I get copy of that file,,any alternate
[10:22] <marcus> u think wine works??
[10:22] <coz_> marcus,  for screen shots?  no  unless it can install a windows screenshot tool which i wouldnt recommend
[10:23] <jacklk> Hello, on my Ubuntu VPS I am having a problem starting a program. I run ./name_of_program and it says it's not found. I'm in the directory it's in, and I have chmodded it to 777 but still it wont run. What should I do?
[10:23] <TuxLof> chmod +x
[10:23] <TuxLof> to make it executable
[10:23] <marcus> Gadwin is pretty good, i used it, i will try
[10:23] <bekks> talpur: you have to setup a ssh server on the box you want to copy files from.
[10:24] <jacklk> TuxLof: Still says it's not found.
[10:24] <bekks> talpur: Whats the IP of your computer?
[10:25] <marcus> seems to work, but how do i remove scrot ? it says when removing : removing following packages, lxde-desktop scrot
[10:26] <slopjong> the default window manager just makes me aggressive
[10:26] <coz_> marcus,  you can reinstall lubuntu-desktop    .. did you use  sudo apt-get remove scrot  ?
[10:27] <marcus> yes
[10:27] <marcus> but i didnt press y
[10:27] <coz_> marcus,  ok
[10:27] <marcus> gui wont dissapear ? :[
[10:27] <coz_> marcus,  scrot is default install//yes?
[10:27] <marcus> yes
[10:28] <coz_> marcus,  out of curiosity,  why Lubuntu?
[10:29] <dino> it's great
[10:29] <coz_> :)
[10:29] <marcus> its quick, i hate the lag on ubuntu gnome :{
[10:29] <dino>  what's about linux mint
[10:29] <coz_> marcus,  understood
[10:29] <marcus> lag 2 / 3 computers..
[10:30] <coz_> sorry about that
[10:30] <marcus> ok, i will try uninstall ty man..
[10:30] <marcus> bye XD
[10:30] <coz_> darn
[10:31] <dino> Q
[10:31] <talpur> bekks: I couldn't recognize my IP using command ip addr show...its a large detail...I am not frequent user of linux so is there any command that just show only Ip
[10:33] <iceroot> talpur: ifconfig
[10:33] <Ritlee> got another question, how do I cleanly pull line a specific line # from a file? I think I remember sed being used effectively for it?
[10:34] <bekks> talpur: Then pastebin the output of the command "ifconfig -a" please.
[10:34] <bekks> !paste | talpur
[10:34] <Ritlee> *pull a specific line # ..
[10:34] <gryg> hello guys, can you recommend any apache +php+ mysql server for USB? Not linux distro but just server so it autostarts when pendrive is plugged in?
[10:34] <iceroot> gryg: offtopic here
[10:34] <gryg> iceroot, ok, so any suggestions where I should ask?
[10:35] <iceroot> gryg: ##hardware or somethink like that or #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:35] <gryg> k
[10:36] <alo21> I would like to set python 3 as default interpreter, How can I do?
[10:39] <Ritlee> in a bash script how can I pull a specific line from a file?
[10:40] <unrar> hi
[10:40] <bond__> i am using this command for local port forwading: ssh -f amitsingh@10.22.254.75 -L *:9903:10.22.254.75:22 -N and getting following errors: bind: Address already in use;   channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 9903;   Could not request local forwarding. Can anybody help me?
[10:41] <Jordan_U> Ritlee: Try asking in #bash.
[10:41] <unrar> sorry for nick flood
[10:41] <unrar> xchat error
[10:48] <newps> Hi
[10:48] <newps> How do I detect my wireless card if the interface reports that the device doesn't exist?
[10:48] <wiehan> I am in agony. Real Pain. I need help with ubuntu "custom install" or rather help with the advanced partitioning tool @ install. I have tried it about ten times and everytime after install when grub loads it gives all sorts of errors, things like no drive @ location or please insert drive. I believe it has something to do with my choices of partitions rather than my setup and the fact that I want to use btrfs
[10:49] <bond___> i am using this command for local port forwading: ssh -f amitsingh@10.22.254.75 -L *:9903:10.22.254.75:22 -N and getting following errors: bind: Address already in use;   channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 9903;   Could not request local forwarding. Can anybody help me?
[10:49] <bekks> bond___: That named port is already in use.
[10:50] <bekks> bond___: Either find out why it is used (lsof -i) or use another port.
[10:50] <bond___> bekks: i changed it to many.. and i crosschecked it through netstat command also
[10:51] <Jordan_U> wiehan: Where did you tell the installer to install grub's boot sector, did Ubuntu's installer give any error messages, and what is the exact error message from grub?
[10:53] <wiehan> Hi Jordan_U. My setup: hda (1 TB); hdb (ssd) - So I want my /home obviously at sda1 and my / @ sdb1. Then I install the MBR on sda.. Which of these may and may not be btrfs? I understand that btrfs is better for ssds as that certain 'flags' are automatically set for use on such a drive and that for ext4 one has to do effort post install to optimize it better
[10:54] <bekks> wiehan: You should not use btrfs for anything thats important. /boot and /btrfs should not be on btrfs, /home neither.
[10:54] <Jordan_U> wiehan: They can all be btrfs, but understand that btrfs is still experimental and if you want a stable reliable system it's probably not worth it to use btrfs yet.
[10:54] <wiehan> Jordan_U, I can't remember the exact error messages: The first time it 'booted' to a grub recovery console after an uncertain error message about cannot find drive with uuid awe123uie123 (or something alike) and the second time it was just "cannot find drive, please insert drive" - ubuntu installer gave no problems
[10:55] <bekks> And those "flags" you talk about are the same as "discard" for ext4.
[10:55] <Jordan_U> wiehan: grub never asks to insert a drive, so that must have been something else printing that error.
[10:55] <stefaan> hi all
[10:56] <wiehan> Jordan_U, yeah I know, it must have been a problem with the MBR and the ?bios printed that last one? I don't know
[10:56] <Jordan_U> bekks: No, they aren't. btrfs's ssd mode doesn't even change discard settings (as online discard can perform very poorly with some drives).
[10:58] <wiehan> Jordan_U, bekks let's simplify this: something went wrong with the following choices: sda1 /home  btrfs, sdb1 / btrfs; MBR on sda... why did this not work?
[10:59] <Jordan_U> wiehan: I would need to know the exact error messages from grub, and probably also see boot info script output, to tell you.
[10:59] <wiehan> or rather, what should I change for this to work? Make another /boot partition in the sda with ext4?
[11:00] <wiehan> Jordan_U, the one I got most of the time was: Cannot find device with UUID xxxxxx then next line: grub>
[11:01] <Jordan_U> wiehan: What version of Ubuntu did you try to install?
[11:01] <newps> Guys, how do I get Ubuntu to detect my wireless card? It never gets detected on boot up, and only works once I switch back from a Windows boot.
[11:01] <bekks> wiehan: Because grubc cannot be loaded from btrfs as far as I know.
[11:01] <wiehan> 12.10, Jordan_U
[11:01] <Jordan_U> bekks: Grub can read btrfs.
[11:02] <wiehan> Jordan_U, isn't it that / may be btrfs but /boot must still be ext4
[11:02] <iceroot> wiehan: no
[11:02] <Jordan_U> wiehan: grub has full support for btrfs, including /boot/.
[11:03] <wiehan> Jordan_U, should the MBR be on sda or sda1?
[11:03] <Jordan_U> wiehan: definitely sda.
[11:04] <Jordan_U> wiehan: Well, sda or sdb, but certainly not a partition like sda1 or sdb1.
[11:04] <wiehan> Jordan_U, and for some reason the advanced partitioning tool left 1mb free space before the sda1 partition (this cannot be avoided)
[11:05] <Jordan_U> wiehan: That's because aligning to MiB boundaries is the right thing to do for performance reasons.
[11:06] <wiehan> Jordan_U, thanks I am learning a lot now; One more thing: what fs is the "best" for use on a ssd?
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[11:07] <Jordan_U> wiehan: Right now, for most use cases, probably ext4.
[11:07] <wiehan> thanks
[11:08] <zenx> plus if you have lots of ram just decrease vm.swapiness
[11:25] <VivaLaEvolucion> uygg
[11:30] <MissDjax> hi
[11:32] <Robr3rd> I need help seeing my GUI again in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with Unity. On my primary account, I have suddenly lost my deskop environments (GNOME/Unity -- including the GNOME fallback) after a hard reset. On this secondary account, however, all is fine. Any assistance?
[11:33] <fairuz_> Hi guys... I want to mount /dev/sda to reinstall grub but it asks me partition type? What should I put? In sda I have Windows and Linux, so should I choose ext4?
[11:38] <jrib> fairuz_: are you sure you want to mount /dev/sda?  And not something like /dev/sda1?
[11:39] <fairuz_> jrib: That's what I'm thinking too
[11:39] <jrib> Robr3rd: what does it mean to "lose my desktop environment"?  You can still choose them at login, right?
[11:39] <fairuz_> But if I want to re-isntall grub to sda, which sdaX should I mount?
[11:40] <abailarri> hi all. I dont know what is wrong in my ubuntu 12.04 (newly installed), but when I login in it hangs alwais
[11:40] <jrib> fairuz_: the one that contains /boot
[11:40] <fairuz_> jrib: I'm on Live DVD right now
[11:40] <fairuz_> jrib: So the Ubuntu partition?
[11:40] <Erealz> clear
[11:40] <jrib> fairuz_: if that's where /boot is
[11:41] <Robr3rd> jrib: I'm sorry, that was quite vague wasn't it... Yes, the login manager (lightdm?) still works perfectly, and my current account works just fine as well, however the *other* account on my system (the only one that ever gets used, actually) does not draw the desktop environment upon logging in. However, keyboard shortcuts DO work, though the file menus are in the windows -- not in any global menubar.
[11:41] <blackshirt> goof night
[11:42] <fairuz_> jrib: So the grub will be installed to MBR of sda right? not on sdaX whichever has /boot?
[11:42] <Robr3rd> jrib: So we've got a desktop without a shell or DE, basically. Programs still launch via keyboard shortcuts, but no prettiness beyond that. (themes still work fine, also)
[11:44] <jrib> !grub2 | fairuz_
[11:44] <bonhoeffer> how can i find what a icon on my dock bar points to?
[11:44] <jrib> fairuz_: follow the instructions to restore grub on that first link ubottu gave
[11:45] <fairuz_> ok thanks jr
[11:45] <jrib> Robr3rd: are there issues with environments other than unity?  Check ~/.xsession-errors for the account in qusetion
[11:46] <bonhoeffer> because i'm updating a program
[11:46] <Robr3rd> jrib: No other environments work. Tested includes: Unity, Unity2D, GNOME, GNOME Classic, GNOME Classic (No Effects) ---- I'll post the X errors online and link you shortly.
[11:47] <bonhoeffer> but i don't know where the program is installed
[11:48] <bonhoeffer> i found it -- it is ~/apps/foo/
[11:48] <bonhoeffer> now i just need to 'repoint' the dock item
[11:49] <Robr3rd> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1331724/ I also tried "unity --replace"/"unity" and "compiz --replace"/"compiz" in a virtual terminal but of course it failed because it had nowhere to display. Additionally, I saw that "unity-panel-services" had an issue so I tried to install it from a virtual terminal, but the package could not be found.
[11:50] <Robr3rd> jrib: At this point I seek advice before my adventures lead to accidentally furthering the desctruction
[11:50] <aetcore> Does anyone use AWS? and if so is there an associated IRC Channel for general Q&A?
[11:50] <jrib> "We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry" thanks devs.
[11:51] <bazhang> !alis | aetcore have a search
[11:51] <aetcore> ty
[11:51] <jrib> Robr3rd: if there's nothing obvious in ~/.xsession-errors, just start renaming dot direcotries and see which one makes a difference (start with things like .compiz, .config, .gnome*, .gconf*)
[11:51] <jrib> directories*
[11:52] <Robr3rd> jrib: *nods* Fair enough. Will return when results are found.
[11:52] <jrib> Robr3rd: I have to leave, sorry
[11:52] <Robr3rd> jrib: Ah, alright. Well, thank you! Hopefully this will get me on the right track. :)
[11:54] <jrib> Robr3rd: only other thing that you might need to be do (and should do first if it hasn't been done) is an fsck, but this should have happened automatically when you booted
[11:55] <Robr3rd> jrib: I'll try a manual one anyway just to be safe. Thanks
[11:56] <jrib> Robr3rd: alright, good luck.  *out the door now*
[11:58] <bonhoeffer> ok -- could i at least know the name of the icons on the left to websearch (are they hoticons or something)
[11:58] <bonhoeffer> i just need to repoint it
[12:01] <bovanslucas> suspiria
[12:08] <fairuz_> Hey guys.. hmm ifconfig only gives lo and wlan0, does it mean my ethernet is unsupported? Or is there any ways I can enable it?
[12:09] <k1l> fairuz: can you show a "lspci" in a pastebin?
[12:09] <k1l> !paste | fairuz
[12:11] <NikP> I use Cinnamon on Ubuntu 12.10. It work's pretty good! ;-)
[12:15] <crimsonmane> don't lie sara
[12:15] <fairuz_> k1l: Hmm how can I do that if both ethernet and wireless are not working. :(
[12:15] <fairuz_> I don't have eth0, and wireless keeps asking password
[12:15] <fairuz_> So I need to fix one of them first. :)
[12:16] <crimsonmane> ethernet not working is quite unusual. at a terminal type "ifconfig eth0 up"
[12:19] <irocksu> hi
[12:19] <crimsonmane> hi
[12:19] <fairuz_> crimsonmane: ok will do
[12:19] <irocksu> is there some pdf viewer that shows me the ending of the last "page" when i press page down?
[12:19] <irocksu> or is it scroll down in english?
[12:20] <crimsonmane> Okular?
[12:20] <irocksu> my problem is as follows: i read a book and when i am at the ending of a page i press the key "page down" but there are still several sentences of the old page.
[12:21] <crimsonmane> irocksu: in your PDF viewer click View at the top menu bar, then select Continuous
[12:22] <irocksu> crimsonmane: I have, but you still get 1-5 lines of the "last screen page"
[12:22] <usr13> irocksu: acroread?
[12:22] <irocksu> usr13: I use acroread
[12:22] <usr13> O
[12:22] <fairuz_> crimsonmane: no such device :(
[12:23] <irocksu> i want an indication of where the last screen ended (a visual line perhaps)
[12:23] <usr13> irocksu: Not sure what the problem is.  Seems to work ok for me.
[12:24] <irocksu> usr13: I reread some of the sentances of the old screen.
[12:24] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: does 'ls -d /sys/class/net/eth*' list anything?
[12:25] <crimsonmane> irocksu: it'll take a bit of practice, but you should really just look at the last lines of the page, hit the button, see where it moved to. it moves a consistent number of lines every time, so then just start at that appropriate line.
[12:26] <irocksu> crimsonmane: i will try that. thanks
[12:26] <usr13> irocksu: Doesn't do that to me.  Maybe there is an anomaly in the document you are reading.
[12:27] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: no such directory
[12:28] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[12:28] <savio> hey
[12:29] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: chances are that linux was unable to detect your network card. run 'lspci | grep -i network' to find out which one is in your computer.
[12:30] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: google should tell you from either the text or the pci ids which driver linux uses, check that it's loaded with 'lsmod | grep <modulename>'
[12:30] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: Is it indicating missing correct driver?
[12:31] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: I don't think so. I guess it's just not being loaded automatically.
[12:31] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: well, what card do you have?
[12:33] <ElixirVitae> Hi!
[12:33] <ElixirVitae> Why is opera not included in repos?
[12:34] <[deXter]> ElixirVitae, because it's not open source
[12:34] <MasterOfDisaster> ElixirVitae: use opera's own repo: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/841
[12:34] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: Atheros
[12:35] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: sure that's not your wifi?
[12:35] <ElixirVitae> but it says "no longer"
[12:35] <ElixirVitae> does that not mean once upon a time it was included...
[12:36] <crimsonmane> live not in the past.
[12:36] <ElixirVitae> （　´_ゝ`)
[12:36] <crimsonmane> make not funny faces
[12:36] <ElixirVitae> ヽ( ｡ ヮﾟ)ノ
[12:38] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: which ubuntu release are you using?
[12:38] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: 12.10
[12:39] <crimsonmane> pst .... over here... got a secret for you ... yer not supposed to use new releases because they're buggy... stick to LTS
[12:40] <fairuz_> :)
[12:41] <fairuz_> I thought new releases has all the drivers from previous releases?
[12:41] <crimsonmane> no
[12:41] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: try installing this: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/canonical_kernel_team/quantal/main/base/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-18-generic
[12:41] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: ethernet controller: atheros AR8161
[12:41] <iceroot> fairuz_: not always
[12:41] <fairuz_> lspci | grep -i eth gives that
[12:41] <theadmin> Ok, I have a bug in Quickly (the ubuntu-flash-game template doesn't work), and it's fixed in Quantal. However I don't want to upgrade to Quantal. Can I expect this bugfix to come to Precise?
[12:42] <crimsonmane> ubuntu and other distros could be more clear that using a fresh release is the same as volunteering to beta test and bug report
[12:42] <iceroot> theadmin: depending on the bug and patch
[12:42] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: you'd need to download it on another computer, copy it there and install it with 'sudo dpkg -i foo.deb'
[12:42] <iceroot> theadmin: if it will pull a new version with new features i dont think so
[12:43] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: this is what the mighty google coughed up: http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-controller
[12:43] <theadmin> iceroot: Well... Hm. I see the status for Precise is "fix released", but what exactly does that mean?
[12:43] <iceroot> theadmin: that the fix is already in the package from 12.04
[12:43] <theadmin> As in... It's still broken on my machine. lol.
[12:43] <iceroot> theadmin: if not please leave a comment on the bug that it is not fixed for you in 12.04
[12:44] <theadmin> iceroot: Will do
[12:44] <iceroot> theadmin: also have a look if the fix is in the proposed repo (which is not enabled by default)
[12:44] <iceroot> theadmin: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:44] <theadmin> iceroot: Never mind, they say it's in -proposed, guess I'll have to wait a few days before it comes down to the main one
[12:44] <iceroot> theadmin: yes
[12:44] <RyanLWilliams> Hi  guys, i'm having problems with the updates?
[12:44] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: So basically I have to compile it on another PC first?
[12:45] <iceroot> theadmin: proposed is the "testing" repo
[12:45] <ElixirVitae> When I add third party repos, they are not listed in software center but listed within synaptic, no?
[12:45] <fairuz_> That solution assume we have internet on the PC
[12:45] <ElixirVitae> I though software center was also kinda frontend for apt...
[12:45] <crimsonmane> ElixirVitae: they are listed in software center
[12:45] <theadmin> iceroot: Makes sense then, seriously though, the software-properties tool calls repos some weird names... Is it "Unsupported updates" or "Pre-released updates"? :/
[12:45] <crimsonmane> fairuz_: download the thing, copy it to the bad computer, and do the steps over there.
[12:46] <ElixirVitae> Hmm, I did something wrong when I added repo to the synaptic then
[12:46] <crimsonmane> ElixirVitae: or maybe you need to apt-get update
[12:46] <iceroot> theadmin: the second
[12:46] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: whould be compiled alright
[12:46] <RyanLWilliams> Hi can I update the Kernel
[12:47] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: *should
[12:47] <MasterOfDisaster> RyanLWilliams: apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[12:47] <RyanLWilliams> For Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:47] <crimsonmane> upgrade your kernel: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40185&sid=fb1f2339e37e92e120cf0203bbb515ac
[12:47] <theadmin> iceroot: k, thanks, I'd rather just wait though :)
[12:47] <ElixirVitae> I thought synaptic does that automagically, when I select apply
[12:47]  * ElixirVitae knows better now.
[12:47] <crimsonmane> otherwise upgrade your kernel with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:48] <RyanLWilliams> MasterOfDisaster: Both of the commands
[12:48] <crimsonmane> ElixirVitae: oh. it might. idunno
[12:48] <bekks> RyanLWilliams: Dont use a mainline kernel unless you exactly know why you need to do so.
[12:48] <RyanLWilliams> bekks: How's you mean
[12:48] <crimsonmane> apt-get upgrade does not include kernels. apt-get dist-upgrade does. and RyanLWilliams he means dont follow my link
[12:49] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: I compiled that thing. And I got 2 ko's
[12:49] <fairuz_> compat.ko and alx.ko
[12:49] <fairuz_> I need both?
[12:49] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: yes
[12:49] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: ok
[12:49] <fairuz_> I will try to send to the bad PC and load it from there
[12:49] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: eh... why compile? there is a ubuntu package man...
[12:49] <fairuz_> that PC don't have internet
[12:50] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: yeah, so? you have to copy the .ko files too, don't you?
[12:50] <fairuz_> I can copy using USB drive
[12:50] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: and the one you're chatting from has internet...
[12:50] <fairuz_> Well MasterOfDisaster I already compiled it so.. it's ok
[12:51] <fairuz_> :)
[12:51] <fairuz_> How to download only the deb ? I only know apt-get install that will install it to the host
[12:51] <theadmin> fairuz_: apt-get -d install ...
[12:51] <paopao> hello, can anybody know how to use QQ in pidgin?
[12:51] <fairuz_> ok thanks!
[12:51] <theadmin> fairuz_: That will download the necessary packages but not install them
[12:52] <fairuz_> cOOL, GOOD TO KNOW
[12:52] <theadmin> fairuz_: Check /var/cache/apt/archives for them
[12:52] <RyanLWilliams> That's all it's giving me is that it's updating all of the Cache
[12:52] <fairuz_> ops sorry
[12:52] <fairuz_> theadmin: noted. Thanks
[12:52] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/canonical_kernel_team/quantal/main/base/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-18-generic
[12:52] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: there's a link where you can d/l the .deb
[12:52] <paopao> sorry, maybe i ask in a wrong channel
[12:52] <theadmin> fairuz_: There's also always http://packages.ubuntu.com where you can grab them
[12:53] <RyanLWilliams> Can't I download the latest stable version of Linux/Deb/Ubuntu Kernel
[12:53] <sanchez> hi
[12:53] <RyanLWilliams> Off http://www.kernel.org
[12:53] <MasterOfDisaster> paopao: there's a plugin package: apt-cache search purple
[12:53] <theadmin> RyanLWilliams: Sure, but why would you? What's wrong with the stock kernel?
[12:53] <sanchez> who test the anonymos os
[12:53] <desu> Is there anyway to disable the join/leave server messages?
[12:54] <milan123> ciao
[12:54] <milan123> !lista
[12:54] <MasterOfDisaster> desu: it's a client setting
[12:54] <milan123> !list
[12:54] <desu> hmmm anyone that uses irssi mind pointing me in the right direction to disabling server messages?
[12:54] <RyanLWilliams> It's playing up on me and not installing the files and downloadable .deb files which I want
[12:55] <theadmin> desu: /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[12:55] <RyanLWilliams> the admin: It's playing up on me and not installing the files and downloadable .deb files which I want
[12:55] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: theadmin Ok I will try installing the deb and see what happends
[12:55] <desu> theadmin Thank you very much.
[12:55] <fairuz_> *happens
[12:55] <theadmin> RyanLWilliams: sudo dpkg -i something.deb, but if the dependencies aren't satisfied it won't work
[12:55] <RyanLWilliams> the admin: To install on my computer
[12:55] <theadmin> !tab | RyanLWilliams
[12:57] <RyanLWilliams> How to install a tar.gz on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, that's the Latest Stable Version off the kernel
[12:58] <desu> extract it and read instructions?
[12:58] <savio> !kernel
[12:58] <yeats> RyanLWilliams: coming in in the middle here, but what are you trying to install?
[12:59] <metin> folks, is there any specific group that I can add my user to, in order to be able to run the X server?
[12:59] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: Will it's called support
[12:59] <desu> ummmm doesn't everyone get to use X server?
[13:00] <metin> desu, I want to be able to start my secondary x server from within the user
[13:00] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: deb from the link you gave me gives dependancies not satisfied.. I realize that it's for 3.5.0-18 while the 12.10 kernel is 3.5.0-17.
[13:00] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: and Kernel
[13:00] <desu> ah I see, can't help there.
[13:01] <savio> !kernel | RyanLWilliams
[13:01] <yeats> RyanLWilliams: the program is called "support"?  (for the kernel, please see ubottu's messages)
[13:01] <desu> I feel so awesome that I'm running kernel 3.5desu~
[13:01] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: Right ok
[13:01] <MasterOfDisaster> fairuz_: ok - you should compile the modules on the target system though, otherwise you'd have to load them with modprobe -f
[13:02] <MasterOfDisaster> eh, insmod -f
[13:02] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: The one I already compiled is compiled on teh same 12.10
[13:02] <fairuz_> same kernel
[13:02] <fairuz_> So it should work right?
[13:02] <fairuz_> I will try with these ones then.
[13:02] <MasterOfDisaster> I guess so
[13:02] <savio> desu, cool did you compile your kernel or using 12.10
[13:07] <RyanLWilliams> Kernel Update, Can I install it myself?
[13:07] <blackshirt> hello
[13:07] <blackshirt> yes,sure
[13:10] <RyanLWilliams> ubottu:  Kernel Update, Can I install it myself?
[13:10] <yeats> RyanLWilliams: can you rephrase your question?  What's "Kernel Update"?
[13:11] <quatar> Hi all. My problem: i installed ubuntu12.04 on a laptop with nvidia graphics. At the first access to the system, i got many "system errors" (no other specification given by the window)... I found out it was about jockey-gtk, the applications that checks for propertary drivers. I installed nvidia-current by apt because jockey won't load, and the system became inusable. Now I installed ubuntu once again, i'm back to the errors... What can I do to 1)
[13:11] <quatar>  don't have these errors, 2) use nvidia-current ?
[13:11] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: update the kernel for my system?
[13:11] <IdleOne> RyanLWilliams: The update manager will offer updates when they are available in the software repositories
[13:11] <yeats> RyanLWilliams: APT should take care of that automatically
[13:13] <RyanLWilliams> IdleOne: Right
[13:13] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: yeah how do i do that?
[13:14] <MasterOfDisaster> quatar: open a terminal/shell, and run try 'sudo apt-get install -yf'. that should fix APT.
[13:14] <yeats> RyanLWilliams: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[13:14] <quatar> MasterOfDisaster, why should i fix apt? I think apt is working...
[13:14] <jrib> quatar: I'd suggest not running apt with -y
[13:15] <bwayne> Hi. I'm running 12.04 in a VM. Why would the screen resolution only be correct when I enter Unity?  gdb isn't correct.  nor is xmonad.  It's only when I log into Unity that the resolution is corrected.
[13:15] <MasterOfDisaster> quatar: sorry, I'm not getting what the problem is then.
[13:15] <yeats> quatar: try running 'jockey-gtk' from the command line to see what the errors actually are?  (not sure I have a good grasp on the problem)
[13:16] <RyanLWilliams> if nothing happens and don't update can't i get the latest version of the kernel and install it myself
[13:16] <jrib> quatar: first step is to checksum your cd
[13:16] <yeats> RyanLWilliams: why would you want to do that?
[13:16] <quatar> jrib, checksum is? (sorry if i'm a n00b :) ).. i'm doing a SMART test right now
[13:16] <quatar> yeats, i'll do it in a while
[13:16] <jrib> !verify | quatar
[13:17] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: because my stock kernel is playing up
[13:17] <smacktalk> how would I create a launch-able icon on my launcher for a program I now have to issue a command in terminal to start?
[13:17] <yeats> RyanLWilliams: can you be more specific about what's going wrong?
[13:17] <FaRT_kNockin_CaP> hey when downloading using torrents sometimes my network system totally freezes/crashes...the only way i can fix this is by doing a reboot... is there any commands i can give it to slap it back in order???
[13:17] <MasterOfDisaster> jrib: add a little memtest to the mix while you're at it
[13:18] <bkfitz> 12.04 - broadcom wifi chip that I'm having problems with... somone last night suggested I install bcmwl-kernel-source which apparently runs using dkms... anyone know how to see if the card is using the new driver i installed?
[13:18] <lucido> I tried to set up my laptop as a wifi ap following this guide: http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[13:18] <yeats> bkfitz: lsmod
[13:18] <lucido> it doesnt seem to be working
[13:18] <FaRT_kNockin_CaP> hey when downloading using torrents sometimes my network system totally freezes/crashes...the only way i can fix this is by doing a reboot... is there any commands i can give it to slap it back in order???
[13:19] <bkfitz> yeats: ok... rebooting now I'll try
[13:19] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: the current stock kernel i have doesn't want to install tarball files
[13:19] <lucido> is there a another way to make a wifi AP?
[13:19] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: and deb files too
[13:20] <yeats> RyanLWilliams: can you please provide more details about what you mean?  those don't sound like kernel-level issues to me on the face of it
[13:21] <food> Ah my Laptop is freeze yet ... Dunno if the issue fixed
[13:21] <food> Is it safe to install kernel 3.6 Quantal on Ubuntu 12.04.1 (I will install it on an important computer) ?
[13:22] <bkfitz> yeats: ok i ran lsmod but don't know what to look for... don't see anything that says broadcom..
[13:22] <bkfitz> yeats: iwconfig shows no wlan0
[13:22] <yeats> bkfitz: it's probably called 'bcm' something or other
[13:23] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: how to install a tarball
[13:23] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: stable:	3.6.5	2012-10-31	[Full Source]	[Patch]	[View Patch]	[View Inc.]	[Gitweb]	[Changelog
[13:23] <yeats> bkfitz: why don't you pastebin the output?
[13:23] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: Which one shall I click on to download it
[13:23] <yeats> !compile | RyanLWilliams
[13:23] <fairuz_> MasterOfDisaster: theadmin I have LAN working now. :)
[13:23] <bkfitz> yeats: just lsmod | grep b and the only things that come up are bnep bluetooth and lib89211
[13:23] <fairuz_> Time to fix the wireless
[13:24] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: Ok
[13:24] <bkfitz> yeats: because it's a different laptpop... i'm at the in-laws installing their old acer laptop with 12.04... tethered to my phone with 3g... no lan port access
[13:24] <RyanLWilliams> ubottu: Okay thanks :)
[13:24] <yeats> RyanLWilliams: please not that I am not recommending that you install a new kernel since it doesn't sound like that's the issue
[13:24] <yeats> s/not/note/
[13:25] <bkfitz> yeats: having to download debs here and transfer to other laptop using thumdrive
[13:25] <yeats> bkfitz: try 'dpkg -l | grep bcm'
[13:25] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: No, it's fine
[13:25] <RyanLWilliams> yeats: I want to install a updated ver. of the kernel anyways
[13:26] <IdleOne> RyanLWilliams: Why?
[13:26] <bkfitz> yeats: ok this does show bcmwl-kernel-source blah blah blah
[13:26] <bkfitz> yeats: so it's apparently there, but the wireless is not turned on???
[13:26] <yeats> bkfitz: okay, so it's installed, but not being loaded probably
[13:26] <bkfitz> yeats: ok :) now what (I really appreciate the help)
[13:27] <quatar> yeats, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1331949
[13:27] <yeats> bkfitz: not sure - my guess is that another module needs to be blacklisted
[13:27] <bkfitz> yeats: ugh
[13:27] <marcus> anyone know how to get AMD Radeon HD 6400/7400 dual graphics Drivers to work?? (lubuntu ))
[13:28] <bkfitz> yeats; like this http://misha.beshkin.lv/broadcom-wifi-bcm4318-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[13:28] <yeats> quatar: see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2074336
[13:28] <bonhoeffer> any way to change what a dock shortcut points to
[13:28] <railsraider> why does monit status shows "  status    not monitored", the process is there running
[13:29] <quatar> yeats, ahah it's wonderful!! I hope it will be the same for me
[13:29] <railsraider> if i do service monit restart i see the service monitored
[13:29] <railsraider> but then it stops monitoring
[13:29] <quatar> thx expecially for having googled for me :P yeats
[13:29] <hikenboot> hello how do i remoun the root file system in recovery mode to read write? mount -a doesnt appear to do anything
[13:31] <yeats> bkfitz: can you pastebin the output of 'lspci'?
[13:31] <yeats> bkfitz: and 'lsmod'?
[13:31] <newgen> ++
[13:31] <devish> we have start up applications in ubuntu , in exatly what file it mofifies/uses
[13:31] <devish> *modifies
[13:31] <railsraider> never mind found the issue
[13:31] <jrib> devish: no single file.  It creates .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart/
[13:32] <devish> i tried rc.local for my case but useless for my script but no use but in start up app it works
[13:33] <jrib> devish: what's your question?
[13:33] <bonhoeffer> so what is the thing on the left of the screen called?
[13:33] <hikenboot> never mind answered my own question mount --options remount,rw /
[13:33] <bonhoeffer> is that the cairo-dock?
[13:34] <bonhoeffer> and the icons are launchers?
[13:34] <yeats> bonhoeffer: unity launcher
[13:34] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[13:34] <bkfitz> yeats: I'll have to copy paste to txt, copy txt to thumb, transfer here, then upload... will do
[13:34] <devish> jrib: wanted to start one of my app after 30 sec of runlevel start so kept the commandd in rc.local and restarted  my pc but no use although the same thing works in start up application
[13:34] <bonhoeffer> and do you know how i can change the target of a unity launcher?
[13:34] <yeats> bkfitz: ah - ok
[13:34] <jrib> devish: what app?
[13:35] <devish> jrib: conky
[13:35] <yeats> bkfitz: so no way to plug in via ethernet? no need to explain if not, just wondering...
[13:35] <jrib> devish: you should use Startup Applications, why don't you want to use it?
[13:35] <bonhoeffer> is there a launcher editor -- or a cli way to do it
[13:36] <devish> i am using start up application only now, but i am wondering why rc.local is not working
[13:36] <yeats> bonhoeffer: to remove, just right click on the icon and select "unlock from launcher"
[13:36] <devish> jrib: ^^
[13:36] <bonhoeffer> yeats, then i can edit it?
[13:36] <jrib> devish: rc.local would start things as root.  You don't want that.  Also, rc.local will execute things before X is up and you are even logged in; you don't want that
[13:36] <yeats> bonhoeffer: edit how?
[13:36] <bkfitz> yeats: nope... tethered to phone at in-laws.... they are planning on getting internet this week... new house
[13:37] <bonhoeffer> i want to give it a new target
[13:37] <devish> jrib: rc.d?
[13:37] <yeats> bkfitz: gotcha
[13:37] <jrib> devish: what about it?
[13:37] <bkfitz> yeats: will pastebin your suggestion in a few... trying the firmware-b43 package
[13:37] <devish> jrib: does this also has root access and same story?
[13:37] <bonhoeffer> ~/apps/RubyMine-4.5.2/bin/rubymine.sh to ~/apps/RubyMine-4.5.4/bin/rubymine.sh
[13:38] <bonhoeffer> should be simple . . .
[13:38] <jrib> devish: yes, though it works a little differently
[13:38] <bonhoeffer> is there a shortcut key to show the desktop?
[13:39] <burdickjp> I have a wubi install of 12.10 on a Dell Latitude ST.  On booting I get a console flood of errors "Bluetooth:  Error in firmware loading err = -32, len = 320, size = 4096 Bluetooth: loading patch file failed".  inputs are unresponsive.  I do not use bluetooth on this hardware, and would rather disable it.
[13:39] <yeats> bonhoeffer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles might help
[13:40] <yeats> bonhoeffer: hold down the super key to see the keyboard shortcuts
[13:40] <bkfitz> yeats: ugh... installing this deb says "is not a debian format archive" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/firmware-b43-installer/1:015-9
[13:41] <yeats> bkfitz: maybe it got corrupted somewhere along the way?
[13:41] <bkfitz> yeats: yeah... trying again :)
[13:43] <bkfitz> yeats: 3.4kb seems awefully small
[13:44] <savio> !sudo
[13:45] <yeats> bkfitz: that was the size it was when I just downloaded it if that helps
[13:45] <bkfitz> yeats: ok thx
[13:46] <yeats> bkfitz: the md5sum on my download is 69db16b6be9a28028c04b248edfc206c if that helps
[13:47] <bkfitz> yeats: excellent i got the same, dkpg'd the deb and it said go download this :) - http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3_mipsel.tar.bz2
[13:47] <yeats> heh
[13:47] <burdickjp> It seems I need to boot back into windows and pass some options to the kernel at boot, but BCD only lists Ubuntu.  Any suggestions for a quick way to boot back into windows without having to configure and install another bootloader, then reinstall BCD?
[13:47] <bkfitz> yeats: this is becoming a sneakernet fiasco :)
[13:47] <afidegnum> pls i have a little question, I have 2 folders, I want to copy contents from the first folder to the new one, overwrite existing contents in fact merge. I tried with the cp command but it didn't work i.e        cp    modules     /my/new/path/modules
[13:47] <afidegnum> what is the correct command to use ?
[13:48] <MrBaccano> Good afternoon, I have a family member with an old laptop that had Windows XP on it. But since it was extremely slowly I installed Ubuntu 11.04 on it, which was fine until this week, because the support ended.
[13:48] <viliny> hello! trying to do some linux server course material here and my current objective is to log kernel messages to a specific file
[13:48] <viliny> we got as far as finding /etc/rsyslog.conf but we are a bit lost right now
[13:48] <MrBaccano> I hope I could get some suggestions on what to install next, because I fear that upgrading to 11.10 or newer without changing anything will be too slow.
[13:48] <yeats> bkfitz: well, I have a broadcom wireless card on one of my machines, and usually all it takes is installing the bcmwl-kernel-source package and rebooting
[13:48] <viliny> whats the best method to specify kernel messages to a custom file?
[13:49] <bkfitz> yeats: ok... i guess i'll go down that route instead of installed that tar from source
[13:49] <bkfitz> yeats: back with pastebins in a min
[13:49] <jago_> hello people
[13:49] <quatar> yeats, after updating/upgrading the system, jockey-gtk is working and (i hope) properly installing the nvidia drivers. Still I get one error on startup but I don't know what it is because the windows hat pops up doesn't show any info
[13:50] <yeats> bkfitz: you might also attempt a view of the logs (dmesg, kern.log, syslog) to see if there's an error when loading the module
[13:50] <jago_> have a slight problem.. and yes I've been through the forums for ongoing a week.
[13:50] <burdickjp> MrBaccano: try 12.10 and see if you/they like it.  You won't know unless you try.
[13:50] <viliny> yeats: speaking of log files, do you know how to solve my problem? :)
[13:50] <yeats> quatar: you might take a look at your logs to see if there's anything that jumps out at you
[13:50] <jago_> my network connect button greyed out ubuntu 12.04 when i try to reconnect to the wireless network
[13:51] <mattyh88> hey, i've been trying to install xubuntu from my usb stick with the alternate iso. (12.04) When I check my installation media it tells me the checksum isn't correct but when I check it, the md5 matches
[13:51] <burdickjp> MrBaccano: if it's too slow, then try one of the alternative desktops, such as cinnamon, or XFCE
[13:51] <quatar> yeats, I used to believe that there are many logs across my system... which one?
[13:51] <burdickjp> MrBaccano: actually, I take that back, try 12.04, as it's an LTS release
[13:51] <yeats> viliny: kernel messages by default go to kern.log on ubuntu - you're trying to change that?
[13:51] <yeats> quatar: I would start with /var/log/syslog
[13:51] <quatar> thx
[13:52] <viliny> yeats: the assignment, altough ambigiously worded, wants me to place kernel messages in a custom file
[13:52] <jago_> it asks for a password and the connect is greyed out when i input the password.
[13:52] <MrBaccano> I guess just trying it would be quite reasonable, which would also have the benefit that I won't have to reinstall, but can just upgrade
[13:53] <NikP> I would like to change my mouse coursor theme to black, and I've set up DMZ-Black, but onle the pointer is black, not the hand or the loading animation. In fedora it's all black. How can I change all coursors to black? (Sorry, I'm German)
[13:54] <quatar> yeats, unfortunately, now that i installed (via jockey) the nvidia-current and rebooted, my desktop won't load.......
[13:54] <yeats> viliny: have you investigated klogd?
[13:54] <yeats> quatar: do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a terminal
[13:54] <dr_willis> NikP: logged  out then back in yet?
[13:55] <quatar> yeats, yes and what should I do to fix? apt-get remove nvidia-current??
[13:55] <NikP> dr_willis: Yes. But only the pointer is black, not the others.
[13:55] <MrBaccano> Thanks burdickjp, I have been caught up in looking at ligt-weight alternatives that just trying to see if Ubuntu worked did not cross my mind
[13:55] <jago_> is there a file for the network configuration where I can manually edit it and keep the changes
[13:55] <yeats> quatar: do 'lsmod | grep nouveau'
[13:55] <bkfitz> yeats: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1332029/
[13:56] <quatar> yeats, empty
[13:56] <bkfitz> yeats: I installed the bcmwl-kernel-source, rebooted and then ran the lsmod and lspci
[13:56] <jago_> cause every time I reboot I have to input the password and set the type from wep to wpa everytime i reboot the computer.
[13:57] <jago_> is there a fix to this ?
[13:57] <jago_> hello
[13:57] <jago_> any help ?
[13:58] <bkfitz> cat dmesg | grep bc yielded nothing
[13:58] <viliny> yeats: we solved it :)
[13:58] <yeats> bkfitz: this is a couple of years old, but probably still valid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8855603&postcount=3
[13:58] <dr_willis> checked askubuntu.com yet jago_ ?
[13:58] <yeats> viliny: cool
[13:58] <mattyh88> hey, i've been trying to install xubuntu from my usb stick with the alternate iso. (12.04) When I check my installation media it tells me the checksum isn't correct but when I check it, the md5 matches
[13:58] <NikP> dr_willis: Do you have an answer for my problem?
[13:58] <bkfitz> yeats: nor did kern.log | grep bc
[13:58] <jago_> yes ..again I just need to get to the configuration file so that I can manually edit it
[13:58] <dr_willis> NikP: nope.
[13:58] <viliny> yeats: /etc/rsyslog.d/50 something default config had places to specify default locations for log files
[13:59] <jago_> whats the file ?
[13:59] <yeats> viliny: ah - gotcha - I was looking for something like that
[13:59] <burdickjp> so how do I pass kernel options on a wubi install?
[13:59] <NikP> dr_willis: OK, I'll ask in an other channel.
[13:59] <yeats> quatar: maybe look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for EE or WW messages that might provide more information?
[13:59] <Stealthy_Mobile> Hey there. Just a quick question. I'm trying to root my android phone using superoneclick. The guide I'm using tells me I need to have both lib32ncurses5  lib32stdc++6 on my box but I can't find those packages on synaptic. Can I still proceed without those packages? I'm running ubuntu 12.04. Should I post the url of the guide I'm following?
[14:00] <baltaz4r> is it just me or does Windows, XP in my case have more disk activity when the system is idle than Linux do?
[14:01] <yeats> baltaz4r: not just you, but you'll want to ask about that in ##windows
[14:01] <baltaz4r> ok
[14:01] <quatar> yeats, no errors in xorg. But in syslog many WARNINGS about too fast respawning of compiz.desktop
[14:02] <burdickjp> baltaz4r:I'm going to say it depends, as I'm running KDE with nepomuk I have a lot of background activity
[14:02] <yeats> quatar: ah - well there you go (don't know what to suggest about that, though)
[14:02] <Stealthy_Mobile> Hey there. Just a quick question. I'm trying to root my android phone using superoneclick. The guide I'm using tells me I need to have both lib32ncurses5  lib32stdc++6 on my box but I can't find those packages on synaptic. Can I still proceed without those packages? I'm running ubuntu 12.04. Should I post the url of the guide I'm following?
[14:03] <dr_willis> !find lib32ncurses
[14:03] <quatar> yeats, to go back to the previous situation, apt-remove nvidia-current could help?
[14:04] <dr_willis> !find lib32stdc
[14:05] <yeats> quatar: yes
[14:05] <BigToledo> Hey there. Just a quick question. I'm trying to root my android phone using superoneclick. The guide I'm using tells me I need to have both lib32ncurses5  lib32stdc++6 on my box but I can't find those packages on synaptic. Can I still proceed without those packages? I'm running ubuntu 12.04. Should I post the url of the guide I'm following?
[14:05]  * yeats goes afk for a while
[14:06] <dr_willis> BigToledo:  just try it and see..
[14:06] <dr_willis> bbl
[14:06] <BigToledo> thanks dr_willis
[14:11] <savio> !service
[14:14] <whoever_> hi all is it supose to be 7 or 8 AM no
[14:14] <whoever_> *now
[14:15] <hanning> hi, id like to use xmodmap to set a hotkey thats only working if a specific process is not running
[14:15] <hanning> could anyone direct me to a tutorial for that?
[14:15] <L3top> would depend on your time zone
[14:16] <bwayne> looks like my gdm issue is pretty common.  Easily fixed by putting xrandr into a script and calling it from lightdm.conf.
[14:17] <clemi> hi guys i got a problem
[14:17] <govinda_> Why should I replace my solid Windows 95 install fon Ubuntu?
[14:17] <govinda_> for*
[14:18] <clemi> everytime i start my  ubuntu it gets a blackscreen (2 min after im logged in  got ubuntu 12)
[14:18]  * L3top lols at solid win 95 install
[14:18] <L3top> clemi: that is a problem.. 12.04 or 12.10?
[14:18] <clemi> 12.04 i believe
[14:18] <govinda_> what is lols
[14:19] <L3top> hanning:  I would write a daemon.
[14:19] <clemi> govinda gtfo you troll >.>
[14:19] <piglit> win95? what is wrong with wine? :-)
[14:19] <gianfranco> !list
[14:19] <clemi> guys seriously he or she must be a troll
[14:20] <L3top> piglit: It makes me sleep with ugly people... for one.
[14:20] <gianfranco> !list
[14:20] <L3top> sorry I am off topic.
[14:20] <clemi> l3top do you know what to do?
[14:20] <bekks> !list > gianfranco
[14:20] <govinda_> what is troll?
[14:20] <govinda_> Does ubuntu support myy modem?
[14:21] <L3top> Well clemi there is nothing you do prior to it crashing, correct? It just crashes? Are you using the native nouveau driver or a proprietary nVidia one?
[14:21] <clemi> l3top
[14:21] <Linkandzelda> hey guys, Ive installed dropbox but its refusing to sync any changes to my folders, it said something about doing a command to max_user_watches and i did that, but its not working. any ideas?
[14:21] <clemi> i got a 6950 ati ;)
[14:22]  * L3top doesn't know where he got nvidia from
[14:22] <L3top> same question re ATI
[14:22] <L3top> radeon or fglrx?
[14:22] <clemi> nope
[14:22] <clemi> havent installed ani driver
[14:22] <clemi> *ANY
[14:23] <trowalts> Linkandzelda, are you sitting behind a proxy?
[14:23] <L3top> clemi: I would. Unity is likely to function a whole lot better on the proprietary driver. sudo apt-get install fglrx.
[14:23] <Linkandzelda> trowalts: nope, regular home connection
[14:23] <clemi> l3top
[14:23] <clemi> i tried to but ubuntu crashes after 2 minutes =/
[14:23] <L3top> Log in text only
[14:23] <savio> !mp3
[14:24] <clemi> alt ctrl f2 right?
[14:24] <L3top> !text | clemi
[14:24] <trowalts> Linkandzelda, then I have no idea, havent used dropbox in a long time and the last time I did I had an annoying proxy that gave issues.
[14:24] <Linkandzelda> i see
[14:25] <trowalts> Linkandzelda, the only thing I could suggest (and this is assuming dropbox is working properly) is have a look at read permissions on the folders? also check if you can create a folder through the web interface and see if it will sync that
[14:26] <Linkandzelda> trowalts: it syncs things down but not up
[14:26] <simplew> does xchat has spelling support?
[14:26] <clemi> alright guys
[14:27] <clemi> im in grub menu
[14:27] <trowalts> simplew, it does, check 'Edit'-> 'Preferences'
[14:27] <Linkandzelda> trowalts: and now it works... lol
[14:27] <trowalts> simplew,  should list the dictionaries you have installed atm
[14:28] <simplew> trowalts: sorry, cant do that, im in kde
[14:28] <trowalts> Linkandzelda, haha, might have had some extra over head before it started uploading, muc like when you copy something on your pc
[14:29] <clemi> guys im in grub menu now what do i have to do next?
[14:29] <trowalts> simplew, I use gnome or cinnamon , cant help with kde
[14:30] <simplew> trowalts: did you ever tried kde?
[14:31] <dreamer12345> i am unable to get 3d environment in my laptop...i have 1gb nvdia graphic card
[14:31] <trowalts> simplew, once very long ago. I did not approve.
[14:31] <foofoobar> Hi, I did a fresh install of ubuntu12 via the windows isntaller
[14:31] <wols_> !optimus
[14:31] <foofoobar> Now I have problem with my ubuntu graphic driver so I can only go to terminal
[14:32] <foofoobar> but I have to login now.
[14:32] <wols_> dreamer12345: do you have a hybrid solution with optimus?
[14:32] <foofoobar> What are the default login credentials?
[14:32] <wols_> foofoobar: there is none
[14:32] <L3top> clemi: it is all in that link
[14:32] <Guest28699> how do i put a boot splash on ubuntu 10.4
[14:32] <dreamer12345> @wols no
[14:32] <foofoobar> wols_: ah, I remember
[14:32] <foofoobar> I had to set some on installation
[14:32] <trowalts> dreamer12345, if its a new laptop/gpu our going to have to download drivers directly from nvidia and install, otherwise get nvidia-current
[14:32] <wols_> dreamer12345: hm?
[14:32] <L3top> Guest28699: plymouth
[14:33] <wols_> dreamer12345: lspci -nn|grep -i VGA
[14:33] <foofoobar> Ill try thanks
[14:33] <phillijw> does anyone turn off DHCP on their wireless router so they can simply use it as an AP? How do I get it to stop "filtering" out traffic from the rest of the network?
[14:33] <L3top> !text | clemi
[14:33] <wols_> phillijw: depends on the router. not a question for #ubuntu
[14:33] <dreamer12345> gt 420m graphic card i have
[14:33] <L3top> !pm > clemi
[14:34] <wols_> dreamer12345: please give the output I asked for.
[14:34]  * L3top loves to pm the don't pm message... just weird that way.
[14:34] <dreamer12345> @wols_ .kk
[14:35] <dreamer12345> @wols_ 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev 18) 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:0df1] (rev a1)
[14:35] <clemi> l3top i did  =( its still black
[14:35] <wols_> dreamer12345: and yes, you have nvidia optimus
[14:35] <dreamer12345> what i schould do
[14:35] <dreamer12345> @wols
[14:36] <L3top> clemi: I do not understand your reply. You did what?
[14:36] <ThinkT510> dreamer12345: including @ with the nick doesn't highlight that person in some irc clients
[14:36] <clemi> letop i went in the goddamn grub menu wrote in text and i still doesnt boot up in text
[14:37] <quatar> Hi all again. Assumed that I have critical issues with nvidia-current (compiz crashes on startup and keep respawning forever, making the entire desktop unable to load), what do you suggest me? nvidia-current-updates? nvidia-173? nvidia-173-updates? something else?
[14:37] <bekks> clemi: Did you run update-grub after editing that file?
[14:38] <dreamer12345> mee too same problem......nvdia gt 420
[14:38] <L3top> bekks: he just wants to boot into text mode once to install fglrx, as he is freezing on the radeon driver.
[14:38] <wols_> dreamer12345: you check in Xorg.0.log what is actually used. and you decide how complicated you want the solution to be
[14:38] <wols_> L3top: what videocard?
[14:38] <clemi> 6950
[14:39] <L3top> radeon HD6xxx
[14:39] <xan_> hello , hope someone can help me here
[14:39] <xan_> i am running ubuntu 12.10 using wubi but now i try to load ubuntu it says
[14:39] <xan_> ubuntu failed to remove key from hardware-5
[14:40] <xan_> any ideas?
[14:40] <Xeli> hey, im trying to set up an linux box to basically show certain information on some tv in the office. Does anyone know of a program to make like a slideshow of different windows/workspaces?
[14:40] <ThinkT510> xan_: any reason you need to use wubi?
[14:40] <Xeli> mm after asking this very question I wonder if I could just script the changing of workspaces..
[14:40] <xan_> i dont want to totally kill off my windows yet as i am atill learning linux
[14:40] <xan_> and im just starting to use Wine
[14:41] <ThinkT510> xan_: better to use a vm then
[14:41] <L3top> xan_: wubi is a testing platform. You should not seek stability there. You should do a "side by side" dual boot install.
[14:41] <L3top> or vm
[14:41] <dreamer12345> @wols_    nvdia geforce gt420m....sry i am late ..i am first time here......my frnd saying it doesnt support optimus
[14:41] <wols_> xan_: you should set up a separate partition then or use a VM like ThinkT510 said if you have enough RAM
[14:41] <xan_> witch would be better dual or vm?
[14:41] <xan_> i have 8gb ram
[14:41] <wols_> dreamer12345: what laptop?
[14:42] <clemi> seriously guys i deleted windows yesterday because i wanted to make ubuntu my mainsystem and now it doesnt work >.>
[14:42] <L3top> Dual would have the best performance xan_... and use more of your native hardware.
[14:42] <wols_> xan_: more than enough. you can use a 2-3GB VM under Virtualbox for example
[14:42] <ThinkT510> xan_: depends on what you do, i'd go for dual boot but a vm is a great way to practice safely
[14:42] <L3top> clemi what happens if you DO hit ctrl alt f2?
[14:42] <dreamer12345> dell xps l501x
[14:42] <wols_> clemi: less whining, more constructive action and replies to people who try to help you. have you managed by now to enter text moed?
[14:42] <L3top> +1 ThinkT510
[14:42] <clemi> i get in a text mode
[14:43] <dreamer12345> @wols_
[14:43] <clemi> but dont know if this is the right one?
[14:43] <xan_> once i learn how to setup Wine and get all my games working i move over fully to linux
[14:43] <unrar> hi
[14:43] <L3top> clemi: That is fine. login and sudo apt-get install fglrx
[14:43] <bekks> xan_: Wine is no garantuee to get your games running.
[14:43] <clemi> thank you
[14:43] <L3top> clemi: then reboot
[14:43] <xan_> smost of my games are old
[14:43] <wols_> dreamer12345: your friend is very wrong.
[14:43] <xan_> like rome total war
[14:44] <xan_> warcraft
[14:44] <xan_> lol
[14:44] <xan_> rome total war is my newest game i have got
[14:44] <dreamer12345> he has the same laptop
[14:44] <dr_willis> !info dosbox
[14:44] <dreamer12345> can u give any link plzz..@wolz
[14:44] <dr_willis> for the old old games
[14:45] <ThinkT510> !appdb | xan_
[14:45] <xan_> ty for the link
[14:45] <L3top> dreamer12345: you will want to get bumblebee-nvidia
[14:45] <dreamer12345> @wolz.....    its nt supported ...seen in nvdia site
[14:45] <wols_> dreamer12345: what isn't?
[14:45] <dreamer12345> can i do nything
[14:46] <wols_> yes, you can start with your Xorg log as I told you already
[14:46] <ThinkT510> dreamer12345: not officially supported, but there is bumblebee
[14:46] <dr_willis> !bumblebee
[14:46] <dreamer12345> get 3d environment in nvdia geforce gt420m
[14:47] <dreamer12345> @wolz ..thanks
[14:47] <L3top> dreamer12345: nvidia does not support optimus in linux, HOWEVER there are third party aps that do... bumblebee being the best for your chipset, bumblebee-nvidia allowing you to use the proprietary driver.
[14:47] <L3top> !info bumblebee | dreamer12345
[14:47] <L3top> grrr.
[14:47] <wols_> dreamer12345: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics  and you certainly have optimus. some higher end cpus don't have it with your laptop but yours clearly does as the lspci output shows
[14:47] <dr_willis> @ is not needed on irc and can confuse things. ;-)
[14:49] <przemek> MrBaccanoL try Xubuntu 12.10 great stuff
[14:49] <dr_willis> dident nvidia make sone mention of officially supporting optimus on linux in some anouncement a few months back?
[14:49] <Guest28699> reboot
[14:50] <wols_> dreamer12345: no. they made an announcement to NOT support it at all
[14:50] <L3top> Not to my knowledge dr_willis
[14:50] <L3top> I will look though. That would be... decent of them.
[14:50] <dr_willis> i tjought they reversed that here recently
[14:51] <wols_> dr_willis: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE3MzY
[14:52] <wols_> and Xorg itself is currently working on multi display support which would make optimus workable under it
[14:52] <L3top> They appear to have... thanks for the heads up dr_willis!
[14:52] <guang> where i can find good resource to learning python web?
[14:52]  * L3top expects they have just robbed and modified bumblebee... but still
[14:53] <dr_willis> bbl
[14:53] <nutz> quit
[14:54] <wols_> L3top: no, bumblebee is just a hack, and a very ugly one. doubt they do it. but they will need Xorg support for it
[14:54] <L3top> yeah... just read http://www.pcworld.com/article/261874/coming_soon_to_linux_nvidia_optimus_graphics_support.html
[14:58] <phong_> hi guys
[14:59] <phong_> ubuntu?
[15:00] <yeats> phong_: got an ubuntu support question?
[15:00] <phong_> i love ubuntu
[15:00] <phong_> i just wanna let you know
[15:00] <phong_> ubuntu = host    vmware =  windows client
[15:01] <Elise001> Trying to learn to enter, save, compile, and run simple C programs on my Ubuntu system.
[15:01] <L3top> Elise001: What is your question?
[15:02] <davelindberg> @phong_ I am curious... What do you love about Ubuntu?
[15:03] <Elise001> Not quite sure where to begin. I want to set up testing environment for simple c programs on this old ubuntu system. I want to learn c better so I can eventually help with open software.
[15:03] <Elise001> I have a job teaching special ed students days.
[15:03] <Elise001> Used to program for a living a long time ago.
[15:04] <dreamer138> ubuntu: no 3d for my nvdia
[15:04] <dreamer138> :(
[15:04] <dreamer138> very depressing\
[15:05] <Elise001> My job could end any time.
[15:05] <yeats> Elise001: I would just 'sudo apt-get install build-essential vim', then google 'C programming language tutorial'
[15:06] <Elise001> From command line?
[15:06] <phong_> davelindberg, virii free
[15:06] <L3top> all but the google bit, yes :P
[15:07] <phong_> davelindberg, fast!
[15:07] <phong_> can someone tell me how to upgrade ubuntu to lastest version?
[15:07] <phong_> i'm using 12.04lts
[15:07] <phong_> i think the latest is 12.10
[15:07] <L3top> phong_: what are you trying to get out of upgrading, out of curiosity?
[15:08] <yeats> Elise001: yes
[15:08] <phong_> L3top, i dont know , base on my thinking, latest always good isin't it/
[15:08] <phong_> L3top, maybe something news add on?
[15:08] <phong_> well...how to upgrade
[15:09] <yeats> phong_: if you're happy on 12.04, no need to upgrade ;-)
[15:09] <yeats> !upgrade | phong_
[15:09] <k1l> phong_: no, thats the windows view of things
[15:09] <L3top> phong_: No. Stable is always good. The latest bleeding edge release is not "always" good. Moving from LTS to latest is not clever imho, unless something you have isn't working and you need support for brand new hw that is not avail in LTS... but that is my opinion.
[15:10] <phong_> so no upgrade?
[15:11] <ConfuciusToLaozi> +1 I agree L3top opinion
[15:11] <phong_> L3top, i have image the current one
[15:11] <phong_> L3top, i still love to try out though
[15:11] <phong_> how come i dont see upgrade to 12.010
[15:11] <phong_> it said ur system is up to date
[15:11] <yeats> phong_: read ubottu's link
[15:13] <kongkongkongo> Hello. I'm having trouble with my Ubuntu install. Can anyone help me?
[15:13] <Elise001> Thank you. Doing so now. Takes a while. That is ok.
[15:13] <foofoobar> Hi. How can I isntall the helvetica font for ubuntu12?
[15:13] <kongkongkongo> I've installed it several times but it still brings up the windows Boot Manager.
[15:14] <loquace> Hi #ubuntu
[15:14] <Elise001> Thanks yeats.
[15:15] <yeats> Elise001: sure
[15:15] <Elise001> yeats, are you in California like me? Just curious.
[15:16] <yeats> Elise001: nope - Georgia
[15:16] <L3top> phong if you just want to try it, install a virtual machine and load in there inside your stable install.
[15:16] <yeats> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer | foofoobar
[15:17] <L3top> phong_: upgrading is a one way ticket.
[15:17] <yeats> phong_: make sure you've backed your files up too
[15:17] <foofoobar> yeats: thanks
[15:17] <foofoobar> and is there a shortcut for making a screenshot of just a part of the screen?
[15:17] <foofoobar> as under osx
[15:18] <layke_> Deleting any file recursively, that has *.uncompressed.js, is that just rm -rf *.uncompressed.js ?
[15:18] <jrib> layke_: nope
[15:18] <layke_> -rfR ?
[15:18] <jrib> layke_: nope
[15:19] <layke_> :P Best way?
[15:19] <jrib> layke_: you'll have to use find if you want to delete any file matching that pattern in some directory (possibly in subdirectories)
[15:20] <L3top> find ./* -iname uncompressed.js -exec echo "rm {}" /;          remove the echo and quotes to execute. That will just tell you what it is going to do as it sits.
[15:20]  * jrib gives L3top some coffee
[15:20] <L3top> er... dont need that *
[15:20] <jrib> it seems to be working :)
[15:21] <jrib> layke_, L3top: you can just use -delete instead of the -exec there.  Also, layke_ you probably need to modify the pattern being matched with -iname a bit if I understood your original question correctly
[15:22] <layke_> Yeah, I'm realising it's not matching at all
[15:23] <fairuz_> Hi guys.. If the wireless driver just detects one signal (other operating system detect a lot more), what is the possible problem? Using Ubuntu 12.10 + broadcom adaptor
[15:23] <L3top> I did -exec rm because when I am blowing things up, I like an echo first to make sure I didn't do something stupid.
[15:26] <layke_> Okay got it thanks.
[15:26] <layke_> ind ./ -iname \*uncompressed.js\* -delete
[15:26] <layke_> find*
[15:27] <kongo22> Hello again. I've got Ubuntu to boot now, but I can't use the internet. I can connect to my network, at least it says it's connected, but Firefox can't find any servers.
[15:29] <tritonx> helllo
[15:29] <tritonx> anyone knows of a guide on how to install the system on a raid1 ?
[15:30] <tritonx> raid1 as another partition is easy, but to boot from it ... ?
[15:30] <tritonx> anyone ?
[15:30] <wols_> !dmraid
[15:30] <wols_> tritonx: with a fakeraid controller?
[15:31] <tritonx> fakeraid you mean software, yeah..
[15:31] <wols_> no. fakeraid. not software raid
[15:31] <wols_> !fakeraid
[15:31] <kongo22> Anyone able to help out with wireless internet connection?
[15:32] <wols_> !anyone > kongo22
[15:32] <kongo22> I asked the question already but nobody's responded.
[15:32] <wols_> tritonx: in short, you will need to use dmraid (which uses your mainboards "RAID controller" that is actually fakeraid)
[15:32] <kongo22> Trying to see if there is actually someone around who can answer it.
[15:32] <BluesKaj> kongo22 , ask your question with details included
[15:32] <wols_> kongo22: what IP does your wlan have?
[15:33] <wols_> your wlan interface
[15:33] <kongo22> 192.168.1.1
[15:33] <wols_> kongo22: that sounds like your AP IP, not your wlan interface IP
[15:33] <kongo22> If that's not it, then I don't know it.
[15:33] <wols_>  /sbin/ifconifg -a
[15:33] <tritonx> ty, lot of reading to do
[15:34] <kongo22> Um. My taskbar and such have just disappeared.
[15:34] <kongo22> I'm not sure what just happened, I was about to type in terminal in the dash home search.
[15:34] <wols_> kongo22: sorry. "/sbin/ifconfig -a"   there was a typo
[15:35] <kongo22> I just have a blank background now.
[15:35] <kongo22> I see the wallpaper but that's it.
[15:38] <kongo22> Restarted.
[15:38] <Berko> Need some help please guys.
[15:38] <Berko> Just a quick one
[15:40] <Berko> I set a static IP address on my adapter. Now DNS resolution is broke :/ I have set dns-nameservers to 8.8.8.8 in interfaces and it shows in resolve.conf...
[15:40] <wols_> Berko: ping 8.8.8.8
[15:40] <Berko> I get a rely
[15:40] <Berko> *respone
[15:40] <wols_> nslookup google.com
[15:41] <lipiss> adf
[15:41] <Berko> wols_: I get a list of several servers
[15:43] <phunyguy_x1> OK I accidentally installed that Facebook stuff in Ubuntu, how the heck do I remove it? It's not showing up in Software Center.
[15:43] <kongo22> since restarting, it's not allowing me to even log back into my network.
[15:43] <kongo22> I have the right password.
[15:43] <phunyguy_x1> nevermind.
[15:43] <phunyguy_x1> found it
[15:43] <phunyguy_x1> ><
[15:44] <kongo22> Okay, connected again.
[15:44] <Elise001> How do I minimize calander on top right screen?
[15:44] <phunyguy_x1> Elise001, click the time again
[15:44] <kongo22> wols_: I ran the command you told me to, what exactly am I looking for?
[15:45] <kongo22> I don't get a wlan, I just get eth0, eth1, and lo
[15:45] <rraj> Hello Everyone, Im trying to build a simple bare metal static file for arm using arm-none-eabi-gcc.
[15:45] <rraj> Hello Everyone, Im trying to build a simple bare metal static file for arm using arm-none-eabi-gcc.
[15:45] <rraj> But getting linking error as in here
[15:45] <phong_> L3top, i'm in progress of updating now
[15:45] <rraj> http://pastebin.com/mGeVHa74
[15:45] <rraj> http://pastebin.com/mGeVHa74
[15:45] <phong_> L3top, hope nothing blow up
[15:46] <rraj> can anyone please help me to resolve it?
[15:46] <wols_> kongo22: for your wlan IP
[15:46] <phong_> is red-hat differ from ubuntu?
[15:46] <wols_> kongo22: so it seems you don't have a wlan interface. what wlan chip do you have?
[15:46] <phong_> i know both are linux os
[15:47] <kongo22> wols_: I'm not sure. I think it's a Broadcom but it was never too important for me to know before as I was using Windows.
[15:47] <wols_> rraj: you need a ARM libc
[15:47] <darkapex> phong_ : different in package managers (DEB and RPM) and funding companies and default de
[15:47] <wols_> kongo22: lspci -nn |grep -i net
[15:48] <kongo22> wols_: Network controller is BCM4321 802.11b/g/n
[15:48] <Berko> Any ideas?
[15:49] <L3top> phong_: Yes... they are different animals. Ubuntu uses the debian packaging manager(dpkg) and redhat uses the redhat package manager (RPM). This is the fundamental difference which sets the other differences in motion.
[15:49] <yeats> Berko: if 'nslookup google.com' returned a list of servers then DNS is working
[15:49] <phunyguy_x1> kongo22, do you have two ethernet ports?
[15:49] <phong_> L3top, and which is better?
[15:49] <Berko> yeats: But ping google.co.uk fails...
[15:49] <Elise001> Thanks phunyguy.
[15:49] <L3top> !ot | phong_
[15:49] <wols_> !b43 > kongo22
[15:50] <kongo22> phunyguy_x1: I only see one.
[15:50] <phunyguy_x1> kongo22, then eth1 may be your wlan
[15:50] <phunyguy_x1> (I've seen stranger)
[15:50] <wols_> kongo22: to check if one is a wlan interface, run "iwconfig"
[15:50] <yeats> Berko: does 'ping 74.125.227.63' work?
[15:51] <wols_> Berko: then run "nslookup google.co.uk"
[15:51] <kongo22> wols_: It shows information for eth1, eth0 and lo have no wireless extensions.
[15:51] <phunyguy_x1> there goes that theory
[15:51] <kongo22> wols_: But eth1 has access point: not-associated
[15:51] <wols_> kongo22: then there is no wlan interface at all. see the howto ubottu messaged you instead. it has instructions for your bcm4321 chip too
[15:51] <Berko> yeats: Yup
[15:52] <yeats> Berko: how about 'nslookup google.co.uk' as wols_ suggested?
[15:52] <wols_> kongo22: it sounds liket eth1 is your wlan, but not configured correctly.
[15:52] <phunyguy_x1> kongo22, lspci -k will show you the wireless device in the list and if there is a kernel module associated with it.  And if there is, you may just be missing the firmware.
[15:53] <kongo22> phunyguy_x1: For the network controller, it says kernel driver in use: wl
[15:53] <Berko> yeats: That resolves an address...
[15:54] <wols_> Berko: what error message does ping google.co.uk  give?
[15:54] <phunyguy_x1> kongo22, try that howto ubotto gave you.  it may give youa link to firmware that seems to be missing or incorrect
[15:55] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone help me with these NFS errors? http://pastebin.com/hYALNWxq
[15:55] <BKTech86> hi, I just updated to ubuntu (precise) and I can't ping myself from other devices on my LAN
[15:55] <BKTech86> can anyone help? Thanks
[15:55] <wols_> BKTech86: probably ufw which blocks it
[15:55] <kongo22> phunyguy_x1: I'm checking it out, still trying to figure out exactly what I need to download. I'll find it.
[15:55] <BKTech86> wols_: ok, what is ufw?
[15:55] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech86, probably a DNS issue
[15:55] <wols_> !ufw
[15:55] <yeats> Berko: can you pastebin the output of 'route'?
[15:56] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech86, can you pink it by IP address?
[15:56] <BKTech86> ubuntuaddicted: no,
[15:56] <Berko> yeats wols_ : A restart fixed the issue... seemes PING was not working more than the DNS wasen't
[15:57] <yeats> Berko: glad to hear it
[15:57] <Berko> Thanks #Ubuntu
[15:57] <BKTech86> wols_: ufw status -> "inactive"
[15:57] <BKTech86> ubuntuaddicted: if I'm trying to ping by ip then DNS shouldn't have anything to do with it right?
[15:57] <wols_> BKTech86: what happens when you ping the IP
[15:57] <wols_> `?
[15:57] <kongo22> This is the second freeze I've gotten on Ubuntu... I'm not sure what exactly is happening.
[15:58] <BKTech86> wols_: unreacheable
[15:58] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech86, correct, that's why I asked
[15:58] <kongo22> This time I at least have items on the screen but nothing is moving except the cursor.
[15:58] <kongo22> Now it's all gone black.
[15:58] <kongo22> Cursor's frozen as well.
[15:59] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech86, do you normally use a hosts file? does your interfaces file have dns server entries in it?
[15:59] <BKTech86> ubuntuaddicted: i just changed it earlier today
[15:59] <BKTech86> ubuntuaddicted: but again, I'm trying to ping by ip
[15:59] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech86, changed what?
[16:00] <BKTech86> ubuntuaddicted: i changed /etc/network/interfaces
[16:00] <BKTech86> ubuntuaddicted: adding new nameservers
[16:00] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech86, a line like this? dns-nameservers 192.168.0.1 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
[16:01] <BKTech86> exactly
[16:01] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech86, hmmm. so you can't ping by IP or hostname? And no firewalls are running?
[16:01] <BKTech86> ubuntuaddicted: but without the initial lan address like in your line
[16:02] <BKTech86> afaik ther are no fws
[16:02] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech86, you can't ping by IP? are you sure all cables are secure? do you use static or dhcp?
[16:03] <BKTech861> sorry got disconnected
[16:03] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech86, you can't ping by IP? are you sure all cables are secure? do you use static or dhcp?
[16:04] <BKTech861> static IP configured in precise, cables are fine, can't ping by IP from another device
[16:04] <BKTech861> tried on 2 devices so far
[16:04] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech861, what does route command show?
[16:05] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech861, you don't have an IP confliction do you?
[16:07] <kongo22> How do I install a .tar.bz2
[16:07] <yeats> !compile | kongo22
[16:07] <blazemore> kongo22: tar.bz2 is just a compressed folder, like zip files on Windows
[16:08] <blazemore> kongo22: What are you trying to install?
[16:08] <kongo22>  blazemore: b43-fwcutter
[16:08] <kongo22> I couldn't find a regular package of it.
[16:08] <Guest86854> What is the name of the file in which I can configure Ubuntu when it should check for updates and what kind of updates.
[16:09] <kongo22> On the launchpad site there's a .dsc, .tar.bz2 and .debian.tar.gz
[16:09] <kongo22> No .deb file, at least not for 12.10
[16:09] <Pitel> how can I set screensaver and screen lock in quantal? I upgraded from precise, and it's not in settings!
[16:10] <yeats> Guest86854: it's called "Software Sources" in the menu but the program is 'software-settings-gtk'
[16:10] <yeats> Guest86854: sorry 'software-properties-gtk' - my mistake
[16:11] <BKTech86> ubuntuaddicted: after adding the router to the DNS file and rebooting, the problem was resolved
[16:11] <BKTech86> thanks
[16:11] <Guest86854> yeats,
[16:11] <Guest86854> yeats, thx
[16:11] <ubuntuaddicted> BKTech86, awesome.
[16:11] <Guest86854> yeats, would you know what the file name is in /etc?
[16:11] <BKTech86> kind of strange
[16:11] <BKTech86> tbh
[16:11] <BKTech86> but w/e
[16:12] <ubuntuaddicted> Guest86854, it may be within /etc/apt/
[16:12] <Guest86854> ubuntuaddicted, thx
[16:12] <ubuntuaddicted> Guest86854, maybe preferences or something like that
[16:12] <Guest86854> Can I upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to Kubuntu 12.10 ?
[16:14] <dfgas-cr48> i can just chmod a-x /etc/init.d/bluetooth to get it to stop loading on boot right?
[16:15] <kongo22> Why does my Ubuntu keep freezing? It generally happens when I'm trying to use the search on dash home.
[16:15] <kongo22> I've restarted three times already.
[16:15] <ubuntuaddicted> Guest86854, yes. after you upgrade to 12.10, you can then install the kde desktop package
[16:16] <slawomir> guestpl
[16:16] <Guest86854> ubuntuaddicted, that is the easiest way?
[16:17] <ubuntuaddicted> Guest86854, there's no other way to my knowledge
[16:18] <yeats> Guest86854: other than re-installing with kubuntu 12.10
[16:19]  * yeats personally thinks reinstallation is easier sometimes than upgrades
[16:19] <neure> can i have newer clang version than 3.0 for ubuntu 12.04(.1) ?
[16:19]  * MonkeyDust always fresh installs because it's easier than upgrade
[16:20] <mifritscher> hi
[16:20] <mifritscher> does a sudo i; echo disabled > /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/mode work for anybody? (I've a notebook with a defective sensor...)
[16:20] <yeats> !info clang
[16:21] <Guest86854> ubuntuaddicted, yeats thx
[16:21] <kongo22> Okay, I've followed all the instructions for installing a new broadcom driver except the last one.
[16:21] <kongo22> How do I get to System > Administration > etc.? I don't see that anywhere.
[16:21] <kongo22> I'm using 12.10
[16:21] <yeats> neure: looks like there may be PPAs with newer versions
[16:21] <Alexey_prostakov> hello friends
[16:21] <yeats> !ppa | neure
[16:21] <phunyguy_x1> kongo22, what portion of system admin are you looking for?
[16:22] <neure> what version of clang would i get with 12.10?
[16:22] <kongo22> phunyguy_x1: Hardware/Additional Drivers
[16:22] <yeats> neure: 3.0.6
[16:22] <Elise001> My computer has a bad battery. It goes down a lot.
[16:22] <phunyguy_x1> type that in the unity launcher, kongo22
[16:22] <phunyguy_x1> =P
[16:22] <kongo22> phunyguy_x1: What is the unity launcher?
[16:22] <rohn> is ubuntu 12.04 support efi??
[16:22] <phunyguy_x1> the top button on your unity panel
[16:23] <phunyguy_x1> where you launch apps from kongo22
[16:23] <kongo22> phunyguy_x1: Okay. That's been causing my computer to freeze frequently.
[16:23] <phunyguy_x1> oh
[16:23] <kongo22> phunyguy_x1: Also, typing hardware brought nothing up.
[16:23] <phunyguy_x1> hmm same for me
[16:23] <phunyguy_x1> where did it go
[16:25] <yeats> phunyguy_x1: kongo22: it's a tab under Software Sources
[16:25] <phunyguy_x1> thanks yeats
[16:26] <kongo22> Thanks, yeats.
[16:26] <kongo22> Installing all that stuff did not get my connection to work.
[16:26] <kongo22> Going to restart to see if it does.
[16:26] <kongo22> Otherwise I'm not sure what to do.
[16:26] <phunyguy_x1> check your wireless switch on the laptop
[16:26] <phunyguy_x1> :)
[16:26] <kongo22> It's not a laptop.
[16:26] <phunyguy_x1> oh
[16:26] <phunyguy_x1> i tried.
[16:26] <kongo22> And I connect to the internet.
[16:26] <jrib> layke_, L3top: you can just use -delete instead of the -exec there.  Also, layke_ you probably need to modify the pattern being matched with -iname a bit if I understood your original question correctly
[16:26] <kongo22> It's just that it doesn't bring up any web pages.
[16:27] <jrib> layke_, L3top: erm, oops.  Wrong shell.
[16:27] <phunyguy_x1> kongo22, it sounds like firmware
[16:28] <kongo22> phunyguy_x1: I'm pretty sure I just installed new firmware...
[16:28] <phunyguy_x1> then you need to reload the kernel module
[16:28] <phunyguy_x1> (or restart)
[16:28] <kongo22> phunyguy_x1: Yeah, restarting now.
[16:28] <andrea__> salve a tutti
[16:30] <kongo22> Still no server.
[16:30] <kongo22> Not worth it anymore.
[16:30] <kongo22> Thanks for everybody who tried to help.
[16:30] <kongo22> to everybody, rather.
[16:31] <phunyguy_x1> yw, kongo22
[16:31] <hdkdl> Does anybody know when there will be an 12.10 package for Retroshare?
[16:32] <r33P33r> heya
[16:39] <Alexey_prostakov> Hello friends! I have questions about empathy, can I talk about it here?
[16:39] <Linkandzelda> dudes how do I make ubtnu remember my desktop session when i startup?
[16:40] <edbian> Alexey_prostakov, this is the place.  I can't promise that I can help you though
[16:40] <jroa> Linkandzelda, did you install it?
[16:40] <VLanX> i would like to connect my TV monitor with HDMI to my motherboard HDMI output. Will i have problems with HDCP?
[16:41] <hdkdl> When will there be Ubuntu packages for Retroshare? http://retroshare.sourceforge.net
[16:41] <hdkdl> I mean for 12.10
[16:41] <fego> hdkdl: till anyone package it for 12.10
[16:42] <edbian> VLanX, I think that's only a problem with blu-ray drives / blue-ray movies.  For the OS and applications it should work fine.
[16:43] <edbian> VLanX, and any movies you download from certain websites through certain protocols should work fine.  It's when you play a blue-ray disk in a blue-ray drive that HDCP is a prob.
[16:43] <Alexey_prostakov> Most room from jabber server - jabber.ru have captcha protection. But I don't see captcha (image) or message about captcha in  empathy. How can I join in this room by empathy?
[16:43] <VLanX> edbian. really? cause i've heard that even HDMI splitter must be HDCP comliant, and that's sad
[16:43] <edbian> VLanX, are you using a splitter?
[16:43] <gordonjcp> I wonder if that's why my PS3 only works with my Panasonic TV through a cheap crappy splitter
[16:44] <VLanX> edbian: i might have to buy it to view the same thing on two different monitors
[16:44] <Linkandzelda> jroa: install what?
[16:44] <VLanX> edbian: but no bluray player involved
[16:44] <lcabreza2> Unable to connect to 127.0.0.1:8081 : can someone help how to get rid of this ..im doing apt-get install or update ..i tried to to the export thing didn't work
[16:44] <edbian> VLanX, I'm not sure.  But I suspect it won't be an issue unless you're playing a blue-ray disk
[16:44] <VLanX> edbian: http://www.ehow.com/about_5623159_hdmi-switcher-problems.html
[16:45] <jroa> Linkandzelda are you booting your computer from a disk/usb or the hard drive?
[16:45] <edbian> VLanX, well there ya go!  Looks like you know more than I do!
[16:45] <Linkandzelda> jroa: HDD, and what i mean by remember my session i mean to reopen the applications I had open when i start up again
[16:45] <Linkandzelda> it remembers the "session" like installed stuff etc
[16:45] <VLanX> edbian: no i just fount that, i'm reading it now
[16:46] <jroa> Oh, never mind then.
[16:46] <VLanX> edbian: btw i think that i can know only if i try
[16:46] <edbian> VLanX, yeah, probably right
[16:47] <dr_willis> Linkandzelda: you useing unity or some other desktop?
[16:47] <Linkandzelda> dr_willis: using unity atm
[16:48] <dr_willis> i haven't seen a session feature in gnome in ages. they may have removed the feature
[16:49] <dr_willis> old factoid on it
[16:49] <dr_willis> !session
[16:52] <Alexey_prostakov> How off message type "Remote host closed the connection"?
[16:56] <arno_> Hi, does anyone known of a good netbook that works fine with ubuntu/linux ? I know of the asus eeepc, but it looks like there are not really graphics driver for their latest products...
[16:56] <lhavelund> !hardware > arno_
[16:58] <dr_willis> the forums would also be a good place to look.
[16:59] <dr_willis> my 2 netbooks (1-3 yrs old) wirk fine
[17:00] <^Mike> What's the syslog thing that does hashing of logs to ensure they can't be tampered with without you knowing?
[17:00] <tritonx> Let's say I have two drive one 160GB with an old system and a new 500GB. can I just dd if=160GB of=500GB or do I have to "prep" it
[17:00] <tritonx> ?
[17:00] <arno_> lhavelund: thanks, but there is nothing about netbook in the hardware support wiki
[17:01] <bipul> Hellow how can i changed my root password?, i have already try to  inside grud mode by roobting a system and pressing shift key or ESC . is there any other alternative
[17:01] <dr_willis> tritonx: you could. then use gparted
[17:01] <tritonx> then use gparted to make it bootable ?
[17:02] <amunak> hello, how can I use gksu to start gnome-terminal with some parameters as root and then run series of command on the terminal?
[17:02] <dr_willis> bipul: you set an actual root user password?
[17:02] <amunak> and preferably make it so it doesn't have to be in one line
[17:02] <bipul> dr_willis,  i don't remember, i am using 12.04 LTS
[17:02] <arno_> dr_willis: yes, but it is cumbersom to register to a forum, especially since I don't have a computer of my own right now
[17:02] <dr_willis> tritonx: should boot. but you do want to use the bigger space on the hd. ;-)
[17:03] <arno_> dr_willis: what are your netbook models ?
[17:03] <tritonx> I'll make a partition after with the remaining space
[17:04] <dr_willis> arno_: an asus aspier one and some other i forget
[17:04] <tritonx> another question , can you mount a drive to a .iso file ?
[17:04] <dr_willis> tritonx: that dosent make sense.
[17:04] <dr_willis> !iso
[17:04] <tritonx> so that I can mount it in vitualpc
[17:04] <norex> during the ubuntu install if the internet connection is lost (when update is selected) could it mess up the installation ?
[17:05] <tritonx> I cant find ways to use a drive or usb as the host drive
[17:05] <wols_> dr_willis: asus makes eeepcs and acer makes aspire netbooks :P
[17:05] <arno_> dr_willis: thanks
[17:06] <wols_> tritonx: you can use raw partitions in virtualbox. there is no virtualpc
[17:06] <tritonx> If I could mount /dev/sdb1 to usb.iso , I could boot from that in the vm
[17:06] <GRRR3> hey guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a dell inspiron laptop, i went through the whole process, but when i try to boot it goes to a blank screen nothing happens
[17:06] <wols_> tritonx: what VM do you actually use?
[17:06] <tritonx> sorry , same thing :P
[17:06] <wols_> tritonx: no it's not
[17:06] <tritonx> virtualbox
[17:06] <tritonx> one is outdated...
[17:06] <tritonx> and no one use it
[17:07] <tritonx> I use the Oracle one
[17:07] <wols_> tritonx: virtualbox manual chapter 9.8.1
[17:07] <dr_willis> tritonx: vbox can boot iso files
[17:07] <willdabeast> anyone very familiar with cairo-dock?
[17:07] <wols_> dr_willis: he wants to boot from an existing usb stick
[17:07] <tritonx> tell me more ... thats why I want to mount my usb or any directory to a .iso...
[17:08] <wols_> tritonx: I gave you the manual where it is explained
[17:08] <dr_willis> wols_: also doable. ;-)
[17:09] <llutz> dr_willis: booting vbox from real-USB devices? since when?
[17:09] <dr_willis> tritonx: no need for the tricks. you could image the usb to a file and boot it also.. but its not an iso file
[17:09] <amunak> how can I use gksu to start gnome-terminal with some parameters as root and then run series of command on the terminal? and preferably make it so it doesn't have to be in one line.
[17:09] <wols_> llutz: since forever basically. disk raw access
[17:09] <llutz> wols_: USB
[17:09] <tritonx> thank you wols
[17:09] <dr_willis> llutz: i recall seeing it done
[17:10] <tritonx> you cant do it in the UI right ?
[17:10] <dr_willis> imageing the usb to a file would be faste4 i bet.
[17:10] <dr_willis> bbl
[17:10] <tritonx> But I want to test if the drives are working properly
[17:11] <tritonx> making an iso of them would miss the point
[17:11] <sajjadbaeidi1> how can help me about ntp server
[17:11] <sajjadbaeidi1> ?
[17:12] <dougl> I get 404 errors when apt-get update lists my sources - where do I correct the address in the list or delete the reference?
[17:12] <ubuntuaddicted> amunak, sounds like a back script, check the bash channel
[17:12] <tritonx> synaptic package manager
[17:12] <amunak> ubuntuaddicted, yeah, thanks.
[17:14] <ubuntuaddicted> sajjadbaeidi1, http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/04/30/time-synchronization-on-ubuntu-12-04lts-using-ntp/
[17:14] <willdabeast> anyone very familiar with cairo-dock?
[17:17] <bipul> i am unable to record my voice on my ubuntu 12.04 lts any one any idea i have used this command killall pulseaudio
[17:17] <GRRR3> sorry, was afk for a bit there...
[17:18] <GRRR3> hey guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a dell inspiron laptop, i went through the whole process, but when i try to boot it goes to a blank screen nothing happens
[17:18] <wiehan> trouble with latest nvidia drivers (selected and installed from "software sources" - [what happened to jockey-gtk?]) after installation there are no window borders and now menus and the resolution is awefully low
[17:18] <wiehan> How must one install any nvidia drivers? I am using a gtx 5 series card...
[17:19] <ubuntuaddicted> GRRR3, sounds like a graphics driver issue. can you tell me what graphics card you have?
[17:19] <GRRR3> i have no idea, ubuntu addicted
[17:19] <ubuntuaddicted> GRRR3, can you hit ctrl-alt F1 and login into a terminal session?
[17:20] <GRRR3> nope
[17:20] <jroa> GRRR3 can you boot a live session?
[17:20] <ubuntuaddicted> GRRR3, so after full boot up and a blank screen, you can't hit ctrl-alt F1?
[17:20] <GRRR3> unfortunately i only haev the alternative install CD, not a live CD
[17:20] <GRRR3> is that the only option for me? to try a live cd?
[17:21] <GRRR3> i don't know its a "full bootup".. it gets passed the bios screen and then goes blank
[17:21] <deffeny> hello
[17:21] <deffeny> i am news
[17:22] <deffeny> 大家好
[17:22] <jroa> GRR3:  it would probably be a good idea to burn a live disk and see if you still have the same problem.
[17:22] <GRRR3> but then i can't install LVM :(
[17:22] <deffeny> can you teach me ubuntu
[17:22] <GRRR3> but i guess if thats the only option, its worth a shot
[17:22] <GRRR3> any other ideas before i logoff?
[17:22] <deffeny> how to use
[17:23] <zgr> Hello after update to 12.10 from 12.04 I have issues with video driver (NV 8400M GS) nouveau shows lots of artifacts, nvidia-current/-updates simply can't run: glx extension missing, I've linux-source and linux-header-generic installed but that doesn't help. How to get my GPU working?
[17:23] <tritonx> zgr, dont use nouveau driver ?
[17:24] <GRRR3> guess not. thanks guys
[17:24] <zgr> tritonx: maybe I wasn't clear enough but nvidia-current and nvidia-current-update can't run properly
[17:25] <zgr> too
[17:25] <tritonx> fresh install ?
[17:25] <tritonx> tried different window manager ? xfce ?
[17:26] <zgr> glxinfo says GLX extension missing -> no acceleration
[17:26] <tritonx> cant help you sorry
[17:26] <bipul> Oye can any one tell me what's wrong with my audio in my ubuntu 12.04
[17:32] <sajjadbaeidi1> how can help me about ntp server configuration ?
[17:32] <sajjadbaeidi1> how can help me about ntp server configuration ?
[17:32] <sajjadbaeidi1> how can help me about ntp server configuration ?
[17:32] <sajjadbaeidi1> how can help me about ntp server configuration ?
[17:33] <zgr> ok got it solved: depmod -a
[17:34] <moondoggy> Hi there.  Can someone tell me if dbus is still in use, or if something else has taken over?
[17:35] <jrib> moondoggy: still in use
[17:35] <zgr> damned even with proprietary nvidia driver I got corrupted output =(
[17:35] <moondoggy> jrib, you think I should learn that one, or some newer, better system?
[17:35] <jrib> moondoggy: what do you want to accomplish?
[17:36] <moondoggy> Well, a few things--check to see if some homemade daemon is running, get data from a fortran program into a python program...
[17:37] <moondoggy> ...then more, as I need it.
[17:37] <whoever_> moondoggy: why not just use pidOF in bash
[17:37] <whoever_> to get the running program that you are looking for
[17:37] <moondoggy> whoever_, that might be a start.
[17:38] <moondoggy> as for passing data from one program to another?
[17:39] <whoever_> moondoggy: i think it would be easier in python, although you can do that in java
[17:39] <L3top> moondoggy: would depend on what kind of data and how.
[17:39] <moondoggy> Ah, pidof sounds useful.
[17:39] <moondoggy> I'm a python guy...
[17:40] <whoever_> moondoggy: well there you go
[17:40] <moondoggy> L3top, well, to start,  simple fortran arrays.
[17:40] <fellayaboy> how do i find a file using terminal...im trying to find a file called myfile.txt  i do find myfile.txt and it says it didnt find anything i know its in the system somewhere
[17:41] <FussyCashew> Hello all :)
[17:41] <moondoggy> I've been writing files from the fortran code, then reading them in the python program, but that gets messy as I do more.
[17:41] <fego> fellayaboy: find / -name myfile.txt -print 2>/dev/null
[17:41] <fellayaboy> why -print 2>/dev/null
[17:41] <wiehan> I am completely stuck in low res graphics after 12.10 and attempting to install nvidia-current drivers throught the additional drivers dialogue in software sources... not even going back to nouvoue fixes it... please please help
[17:41] <whoever_> moondoggy: why are you reading fortran into python
[17:42] <fellayaboy> fego why -print 2>/dev/null
[17:42] <fego> fellayaboy: it will send the errors you get due to not having read permissions on files, to a null bucket
[17:42] <moondoggy> I have an ancient, huge, fortran program, and I wanted to see if I can grab data while it's running.
[17:42] <fellayaboy> ooh ok thank you fego
[17:42] <whoever_> moondoggy: why not create your own  parsere in python and it would'nt be that messy then
[17:42] <moondoggy> ...grab it in my python program.
[17:43] <FussyCashew> I'm trying to access a port from WAN that has a service running on it on my ubuntu desktop machine... When I check it on canyouseeme.org it shows as open, but when I attempt to connect, the connection times out and the port closes, any help?
[17:43] <moondoggy> Yeah, I have a parser, but I want to make it possible to put something unobtrusive in the fortran to make some variable available via--what--dbus? dmesg?
[17:43] <moondoggy> I don
[17:44] <moondoggy> I don't want to change the output format of the fortran program.
[17:44] <whoever_> FussyCashew: is your client liseneing for the connection
[17:44] <wiehan> How do I reset xconfig/xserver???
[17:44] <fellayaboy> fego how do i make it scan the whole system? and all its subdirectories... i did the command and im 1000% certain its not going in deep enuff in the ssytem
[17:44] <wiehan> I just want a decent reolution and my nvidia drivers working - have only had headaches since installing 12.10
[17:45] <L3top> moondoggy: where does this fortran program put that information?
[17:45] <whoever_> moondoggy: so your not really reading the fortran file, your trying to access user enterd data?
[17:45] <moondoggy> whoever_, L3top  is this possible to do?
[17:45] <bodyowns> hello, which is the correct form to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu 12.10  for nvidia gt 540m ? i'm asking because first i already broke my linux, now i reinstalled, it's clean
[17:45] <fego> fellayaboy: the above command line will search the whole system starting from the / dir
[17:45] <FussyCashew> whoever_: Yes, it works over LAN, but not over WAN. What I'm trying to do is set up MediaTomb's UI to be accessible over WAN.
[17:45] <fego> and its child dirs
[17:46] <whoever_> FussyCashew: then check your port forward in your router
[17:46] <VLanX> can i see if 3D support is enabled or not on my 12.10 desktop ?
[17:46] <wiehan> ain't nobody got time for broken graphics, low res in 12.10
[17:46] <fellayaboy> well for example fego i did ..  find / -iname *.desktop and it returned only a few *.desktop files and i know theres way more i dont get whats up
[17:46] <moondoggy> The particular data I want is not in any output files.  Suppose I have a variable "x" in the fortran program and I want to have fortran put that somewhere, other than a file, where I can access it from python.
[17:47] <FussyCashew> whoever_: I've placed my machine in DMZ and tried turning off the firewall on the router.
[17:47] <fego> fellayaboy: why -iname ? just simply -name
[17:47] <FussyCashew> whoever_: Also, the ports should be forwarded.
[17:47] <bodyowns> someone ? please?
[17:47] <fellayaboy> just in case theres uppercases..i want find to ignore if its upper cases
[17:47] <FussyCashew> 192.168.0.1
[17:48] <FussyCashew> ahh oops
[17:48] <bodyowns> FussyCashew:
[17:48] <FussyCashew> two keyboards, sorry
[17:48] <wiehan> PLEASE.. I have installed and reinstalled the nvidia drivers, I have reverted back to neuvou, I am using a nvidia 500 series card (worked in12.04).. now after just trying to install the latest drivers I am stuck in LOOOOOOOOOW res
[17:48] <bodyowns> same problem here
[17:49] <whoever_> moondoggy: you need to edit your formtan to output x to a file or add a line to send it to your python program , you need some sort of interface in your fortran to do this
[17:49] <fego> fellayaboy: Recent versions of GNU find seem to have an -iname flag, for case-insensitive name search.
[17:49] <moondoggy> Heh, yeah, that's what I'm looking for.  dbus isn't what I want?
[17:49] <wiehan> cgn{
[17:50] <bodyowns> wiehan
[17:50] <whoever_> FussyCashew: try to ssh to that port , just to see if you can connect over WAN
[17:50] <bodyowns> wiehan:
[17:50] <fellayaboy> yeah exactly...if the file name is MyFile.txt ..using -iname myfile.txt will find MyFile.txt for me
[17:50] <muh2000> hi all
[17:51] <muh2000> i have trouble upgrading 12.04 -> 12.10.  it complains about the file /usr/share/doc/libdrm2/changelog.Debian.gz
[17:51] <L3top> moondoggy: if you can make it bark you can wrap the instance in a shell which creates an array based on the captured output and can be manipulated how you want I guess would be the way I went about it... going the other direction could get dicey. #bash might be a better place to get an answer.
[17:51] <fego> fellayaboy: just in case,you wont be able to find the files that dont have required privileges from your user
[17:52] <wiehan> useless
[17:52] <whoever_> moondoggy: right, it sounds that your fortran was not witten with expantion in mind so it is all containd in the program and needs a way to get out
[17:52] <fellayaboy> but if i use sudo find / i will right?
[17:52] <moondoggy> Oh, a shell for "stdout" that the user doesn't see?
[17:52] <fego> fellayaboy: yes
[17:52] <fellayaboy> fego thats false cuz i used sudo and still its not going in deep
[17:52] <moondoggy> What's bark?
[17:53] <whoever_> moondoggy: that will do pipe to null to make sure they don't see it
[17:53] <FrozenFire> I'm having an issue trying to install an EFI-compatible version of Ubuntu on a box alongside Windows. It would seem that the 32-bit version of Ubuntu is not EFI-compatible. Boot-repair suggests installing the 64-bit version, but I can't fathom how that would work, since the 64-bit version is built for the amd64 arch, is it not?
[17:53] <fego> fellayaboy: everytime it works for me :D
[17:53] <fego> wach time
[17:53] <whoever_>  moondoggy well null is incorrect here but hopefully you see where i am goin'
[17:54] <FussyCashew> whoever_: Connection timed out
[17:54] <moondoggy> I think so.  the shell around the fortran get stdout and stderr from the fortran and deals with it, while the user only sees what the shell wants her to?
[17:54] <fego> fellayaboy: when you specify / to find, find automatically searches the subdirs too
[17:57] <moondoggy> whoever_, is that right, what I said above?
[17:57] <moondoggy> If so, I can dig around to figure out exactly how.
[17:58] <wiehan> Good God. People, I cannot find help with Google. How do I comepletly reset my ubuntu 12.10 graphics configuration
[17:58] <L3top> Correct moondoggy
[17:59] <wiehan> msg nickserv identify wiehan
[17:59] <wiehan> oops
[17:59] <bng_> hi all, Ubuntu installer created swap partition on my SSD, isn't that wrong?
[17:59] <moondoggy> L3top, Thanks. whoever_ too.  You mean a bash shell, right?
[18:00] <jparkton> wiehan, http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-restore-default-video-drivers
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> bng_, Can you pastebin a sidudo fdisk -lu
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> sudi fdisk -lu   sirry
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> sudo* doh
[18:00] <moondoggy> You mean "dih."
[18:01] <L3top> moondoggy: if you pm me and tell me what you want it to do I can probably throw it together pretty quick, or at least give you a good place to start.
[18:03] <moondoggy> Heh.  what command is for pm?  :)
[18:03] <bng_> wilee-nilee: it's an LVM logical volume, it is the size of RAM
[18:03] <fego> moondoggy: /msg L3top yourmessage
[18:03] <moondoggy> fego, thanks.
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> moondoggy  first ask if it's ok to pm
[18:04] <whoever_> funch: then the problen is how that port is accesed from your router
[18:04] <phunyguy_x1> MonkeyDust, someone just told him to.
[18:04] <phunyguy_x1> lol
[18:04] <bng_> I mean, one should not use swap on SSD, right?
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> bng_, I'm not familiar with lvm, but the swap will be put where you tell it to I assume.
[18:04] <whoever_> moondoggy: ya that will do
[18:05] <bng_> wilee-nilee: that is the thing, I let the quantal installer to take the whole disk using its defaults, I only ticked the lvm and encryption options
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> bng_, From seeing others comments on lvm it has a good and bad side, did you investigate all its uses and whether it was really applicable for you or just decide to install it?
[18:08] <emes> my keyboard shortcuts on 12.10 sometimes get reset when I restart... what's going on?
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> emes, I think you have to set them in compiz, did you do it that way?
[18:09] <bng_> I didn't investigate all the uses, but they say it should be easier to resize, backup and add partitions to it
[18:09] <bng_> wilee-nilee: I didn't investigate all the uses, but they say it should be easier to resize, backup and add partitions to it
[18:10] <emes> wilee-nilee: I set them in system settings
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> bng_, Cool, you can control the writes to the swap. The general consensus is that a ssd card can take as many writes as a disc type HD now so look for the writing to it control.
[18:11] <Fodi69> hi, I want to install Adobe AIR on ubuntu 12.04, but when I run the bin file, it says the error: execvp: Permission denied
[18:11] <mindo> Fodi69, sudo?
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> emes, unity is a plugin in compiz try it there, I see people commenting on this but I have not seen myself the actual answer to it.
[18:12] <blastedt> Hi, can gpart on a live-cd remove a partition with an OS on it and extend a different partition with that space, or is that impossible?
[18:12] <Hattori> hello, is there a way to record audio with a terminal tool? like what you can do with audacity but being able to do that within a script..
[18:12] <fego> Fodi69: have you checked if the executables bit is enabled?
[18:13] <gordonjcp> Hattori: arecord
[18:13] <bng_> wilee-nilee: don't you know where I would setup the rules for writing? I have enough RAM, I don't think I even need suspending
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> blastedt, yes you can remove add and move partitions around, but they have to be in numerical order from left to right.
[18:14] <Hattori> gordonjcp, ok, I think I've tried that before without success
[18:14] <Fodi69> fego: yes
[18:14] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: will it be nondestructive? im looking to remove a dual-boot and restore the space to one OS. thanks
[18:14] <Fodi69> mindo: yes, everything with sudo
[18:14] <gordonjcp> Hattori: that's a shame
[18:15] <gordonjcp> because that's what you use
[18:15] <Hattori> no alternatives i guess?
[18:15] <gordonjcp> possibly
[18:15] <gordonjcp> why would I bother with an alternative, when arecord works
[18:15] <Hattori> I wouldn't
[18:16] <gordonjcp> Hattori: unfortunately there's absolutely no way to guess what the problem is
[18:16] <Hattori> ;)
[18:16] <blastedt> based on this: http://www.zoringroup.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2601 it looks to be relatively simple, but I don't know whether that's out of date
[18:17] <gordonjcp> Hattori: perhaps if you can describe the problem you're having, someone can help
[18:17] <Hattori> indeed, one sec
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> blastedt, This W7 and you want to remove ubuntu?
[18:18] <blastedt> yeah... ubuntu crashes as soon as I load it up unfortunately, so I need to restore the space as the HDD is rather small and I allocated half to each OS
[18:19] <gordonjcp> blastedt: why not try fixing the crashes?
[18:20] <Hattori> gordonjcp,  "arecord --quiet --file-type wav --rate=8000 > file.wav" records a wav file that is completely mute.
[18:20] <Hattori> and the audio is being played from the browser
[18:20] <blastedt> gordonjcp: I spent six or so hours trying to, got to the point where it turned out the stock video drivers were causing horrible slowdown, and nvidia's cause the boot crash.  I'd keep trying but finals are coming up very soon and I just want the space at this point
[18:20] <gordonjcp> Hattori: maybe you should check that you've got the input set correctly, and you're actually recording from somewhere sane
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> blastedt, Do you have a W7 recovery or install disc or usb to rewrite the mbr?
[18:21] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: yup, watching a video now on MBR repair
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> blastedt, This is not a ubuntu install from windows a wubi right?
[18:22] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: i installed windows first then used the live-cd to resize the partition and install ubuntu while outside windows
[18:22] <blastedt> not using wubi
[18:23] <Kinder-Pingvi> hi. i have mobility radeon hd 4650 on my notebook... i'm installed kubuntu 12.10, but in "additional drivers" no drivers for me O_o.. ubuntu 12.04 - all ok...
[18:23] <blastedt> looks like i need the recovery commandline in windows bootrec /fixmbr bootrec /fixboot
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> blastedt, Cool boot the recovery or install disc go to the repair terminal and run bootrec.exe /fixmbr  to put windows in the mbr. Check that it boots, if it is good, then boot the ubuntu live cd and remove the ubuntu including the extended leaving a unallocated space. Then use the W7 disk manager to resize windows not gparted.
[18:25] <blastedt> wilee-nilee: thank you!
[18:25] <joint2k> boot windows 7 cd.. choose repair and get to the prompt..   c:, bootrec.exe /fixboot, bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[18:27] <joint2k> for those with ati.amd radeon issues in 12.10 see here  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide
[18:34] <phong_> hi guys, why after upgrade to ubuntu 12.10 i got display problem
[18:34] <phong_> it give me the lowest resolution
[18:34] <phong_> help me guys
[18:35] <phong_> is ubuntu 12.10 has bug with display issue?
[18:36] <drkokandy> thanks joint2k - this is helpful. I could only get the open source drivers to work
[18:43] <mstenta> I'm trying to get an EFI boot of Ubuntu working on my Macbook. I have successfully installed Ubuntu on a partition, and I followed the instructions here (http://mennucc1.debian.net/macbook_linux_efi.html) to create a Grub image in /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu... but when it boots I just get a Grub prompt. Any Grub wizards in here who can give me some pointers?
[18:43] <c_smith_> Hi, I am trying to set up a dual boot with Windows and Ubuntu 12.10, I have Windows installed, but whenever I get to the partitioning in Ubuntu, it never detects the Windows partitions (shows the HDD as empty which I know it's not) is there something I can try to get this working?
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> c_smith_, Take a screen shot of gparted a app on the live cd of the HD and pastebin it.
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> imagebin actually c_smith
[18:45] <c_smith_> wilee-nilee: will do once this disk check finishes.
[18:45] <FlowRiser> c_smith, tri using Wubi on windows it will work like a charm.
[18:45] <c_smith_> FlowRiser: Wubi limits me to using 30GB for the install, far too little for what I use Ubuntu for.
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> c_smith_, I just wonder if the HD is maxed on the primary partitions and this is why.
[18:46] <c_smith_> wilee-nilee: Windows only created 2 partitions, if memory serves correctly, the cap for the number of primary partitions is 4
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> FlowRiser, Even the designer of wubi suggests not to use it long term. http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[18:47] <c_smith_> anywho, gonna log into my main on my tablet so I can let windows run this disk check.
[18:48] <FlowRiser> c_smith, i know for a fact windows likes to be first on a hdd so try rearanging your partitions :-?
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> c_smith_, Correct on the primaries, I would see if the HD shows the windows in gparted or a fdisk -l it couls be a number of reasons why you are not seeing it.
[18:48] <_cronus_> c_smith_, if there is a dmraid controller you could set the nodmraid boot option at other options menu
[18:49] <FlowRiser> wilee-nilee, i had no ideea ... i'm gonna do some reading i guess
[18:50] <Mark__> Anyone here know about macs?
[18:50] <jrib> !anyone | Mark__
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> FlowRiser, If needed the wubi can be moved to a partition at your whim.
[18:51] <c_smith> Ok, running disk check on windows could take a bit.
[18:51] <LoCusF> hello, I have a Z77X-UP7 motherboard from gigabyte, which has a propietary chipset from PLX. It is the 8747 chioset but there are not drivers for it in ubuntu, does anyone know how to find the driver for it?
[18:51] <FlowRiser> wilee-nilee, to be honest i would really like a separate hdd for ubuntu :-? I tend to do a lot of stupid things to my partitions....
[18:51] <Mark__> Im running ubuntu 12.10 everything was working fine I just did some updates and then switched the video driver from x.org to the nvidia driver tested
[18:52] <Mark__> When I rebooted the desktop does not load
[18:52] <Mark__> I just see the wallpaper
[18:52] <c_smith> And if you all are suggesting seperate hard disks, this is a laptop
[18:52] <FlowRiser> Mark__, try using the ubuntu 2d see if that helps
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> FlowRiser, You can do that I believe with the wubi transfer as well.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[18:53] <T_A_N_K> Hello, i am on a powerpc macintosh G4, i was wondering, how do i even boot into recovery mode? I have forgotten the password of my main user, and i am on ubuntu 12.04 btw
[18:53] <Mark__> How do I switch since I have no controls FlowRiser .
[18:53] <T_A_N_K> On the ubuntu for mac, it is very strange and the grub menu does not even come up
[18:53] <FlowRiser> Mark__, do you have the login screen ?
[18:53] <Mark__> T_A_N_K:  you cant use grub on macs
[18:54] <Mark__> FlowRiser: Yes
[18:54] <T_A_N_K> then how do i boot into recovery mode?
[18:54] <FlowRiser> Mark__, next to your username should be a small button, press it and select unity-2d
[18:54] <Mark__> T_A_N_K: You need refit
[18:55] <T_A_N_K> what the mother goose.
[18:55] <Mark__> Huh??
[18:55] <FlowRiser> T_A_N_K, try rebooting and pressing shift
[18:55] <FlowRiser> i think it was shift
[18:55] <FlowRiser> i can't remember for sure
[18:55] <Mark__> FlowRiser: He needs refit to boot
[18:56] <FlowRiser> Mark__, is refit only for macintosh ?
[18:56] <Mark__> The Mac won't use grub boot loader because its not mbr
[18:56] <food> Is there anyone good in in Ubuntu Live CD customization please? I need some help
[18:56] <FlowRiser> i see
[18:56] <Mark__> FlowRiser: I believe so
[18:57] <c_smith> Mark_, there's GRUB-EFI,
[18:57] <food> I have chrooted the ISO... I want to install the kernel on my Live CD(ISO) and remove the old kernel
[18:57] <c_smith> So Refit isn't the only boatloader that supports EFI
[18:57] <Mark__> FlowRiser: I see no way to switch from login screen
[18:58] <FlowRiser> Mark__, hmm, what desktop environment are you using ?
[18:58] <Mark__> Unity
[18:58] <FlowRiser> Mark__, it is right next to your username then in the right side the canonical logo
[18:59] <FlowRiser> it just begs to be pressed
[18:59] <Mark__> Don't see it
[18:59] <Hattori> "arecord --quiet --file-type wav --rate=8000 > file.wav" records a wav file with audio taken from the mic. how can I specify the source where to take the audio from? if i record with audacity, the sound is not taken from the mic, but from whatever the system is playing. how can i do the same thing with arecord?
[18:59] <FlowRiser> Mark__, odd, you need to go into recovery mode and set it manually
[19:00] <Mark__> c_smith:  I like refit
[19:00] <_cronus_> food, what do you mean by chrooted the iso? have you extracted filesystem.squashfs and then chrooted to it?
[19:00] <FlowRiser> Mark__, you need to change the user-session to unity-2d manually, i can't really recall how i did it last time
[19:00] <Nickiniz> s.a
[19:00] <Nickiniz> kardesler
[19:01] <c_smith> Mark_, i'm not suggesting you try, just saying GRUB is an option.
[19:01] <wyclif> hey
[19:01] <Mark__> Anyone know how to switch to unity 2d on 12.10?
[19:01] <FlowRiser> Mark__, http://www.tejasbarot.com/2012/05/17/howto-change-default-user-session-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-login-session-desktop-environment/
[19:01] <FlowRiser> it's all there :D
[19:02] <Nickiniz> kardesler
[19:02] <Nickiniz> turkeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[19:02] <Nickiniz> turkeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[19:02] <Nickiniz> ?
[19:02] <food> _cronus_, yeah, I just want to install the kernel 6.5 and remove 3.2 . I am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization but i stacked with kernel
[19:02] <FloodBot1> Nickiniz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <Mark__> FlowRiser: Will that work for 12.10 as well?
[19:02] <ThinkT510> Mark__: unity2d was removed from 12.10
[19:03] <fellayaboy> hey i want to ssh into a machine in my lan do i have to open that port for that server on my router?>
[19:03] <_cronus_> food, do you get any errors?
[19:03] <tsubaki> ok I'm having an issue getting Nvidia drivers to work on 12.10, I'm stuck in 1024x768 with nouveau and when I install the official ones Unity wont start
[19:03] <JimmyNeutron> fellayaboy: You need to open port 22 for SSH
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> !uck
[19:03] <Mark__> ThinkT510: Ok so do what the issue is ?
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> food, ^^^^^^
[19:04] <FrozenFire> I'm having an issue trying to install an EFI-compatible version of Ubuntu on a box alongside Windows. It would seem that the 32-bit version of Ubuntu is not EFI-compatible. Boot-repair suggests installing the 64-bit version, but I can't fathom how that would work, since the 64-bit version is built for the amd64 arch, is it not?
[19:04] <fellayaboy> usually my router only supports opening one port for one machine...how do i work around this?
[19:04] <ThinkT510> Mark__: you tell me, your the one with the problem
[19:04] <JimmyNeutron> fellayaboy: Open 22 only if you're coming in from the WAN.  If on the LAN, then no.
[19:04] <Mark__> ThinkT510: Switched to nvidia tested driver now desktop won't load
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> FrozenFire, I would post a thread at the ubuntu forums as well.
[19:04] <ThinkT510> Mark__: oh, i don't use the nvidia drivers sorry
[19:04] <food> _cronus_, i installed the kernel with dpkg -i command but did not able to remove the old kernel. Just to test i generated the ISO but i get error of Kernel Panic
[19:04] <JimmyNeutron> fellayaboy: Go to your router page and access the Port Forwarding page
[19:04] <tsubaki> ThinkT510 : I think im getting the same problem
[19:04] <food> wilee-nilee, ?
[19:05] <Mark__> ThinkT510: Is there a way to switch back?
[19:05] <FrozenFire> wilee-nilee, There does seem to be a few such threads, but none of them seem to really answer the question of whether a 64-bit version of Ubuntu will run on an Intel arch
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> food, The bot message on uck
[19:05] <FlowRiser> Mark__, you need to remove the drivers then :( i hope you remember what you installed
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> FrozenFire, Hence your own thread.
[19:05] <FlowRiser> Mark__, "sudo apt-get remove *name*"
[19:05] <Mark__> How do I do that FlowRiser
[19:05] <brandon420> How can I restart my sound driver without restarting?
[19:06] <brandon420> (when i unplug-replug my headphones it starts to satic)
[19:06] <tsubaki> Mark__ : do you need to fall back to nouveau?
[19:06] <Nickiniz> Türkiyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[19:06] <food> wilee-nilee, If i use the UCK then still don't i need to install the kernel manually?
[19:06] <Mark__> FlowRiser: How do I boot into single user?
[19:06] <Nickiniz> Turkeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> FrozenFire, Your issue is only really covered by a few on this channel if you are lucky.
[19:06] <Nickiniz> Turkýshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[19:06] <Nickiniz> oooooooooooo
[19:06] <FloodBot1> Nickiniz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:06] <Nickiniz> leyyyyyyyy
[19:06] <Nickiniz> .
[19:06] <Mark__> What's nouveau
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> !ops | Nickiniz
[19:06] <tsubaki> the fall back drivers for nvidia or the FLOSS ones
[19:06] <_cronus_> food, you can install the kernel using apt-get install or apt-get update. then you have to use the same kernel and vmlinuz on the iso's /casper. actually these are the ones that are used when booting from the livecd
[19:06] <tsubaki> I'm having issues install the Nvidia ones so Im stuck witht eh fall back
[19:07] <fellayaboy> thanks guys
[19:07] <FlowRiser> Mark__, you can't you must go into recovery mode and do it manually
[19:07] <Nickiniz> :D
[19:07] <Nickiniz> Türkiye
[19:07] <Nickiniz> Turkýsh
[19:07] <Nickiniz> turkey
[19:07] <FloodBot1> Nickiniz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:07] <_cronus_> food, just copy them from /boot of the chrooted environment
[19:07] <Mark__> FlowRiser: How do I do that?
[19:07] <gordonjcp> FrozenFire: "amd64" is 64-bit regardless of platform
[19:07] <brandon420> _cronus_, you have anything todo with ptp?
[19:07] <tsubaki> any way I need assistance install the Nvidia drivers I get locked in 1024x768 and unity doesn't start
[19:07] <FlowRiser> Mark__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[19:08] <food> _cronus_, You mean installing 3.6.5 using apt-get install?
[19:08] <Linkandzelda> anyone know a quick app to add any app as a startup app?
[19:09] <food> _cronus_, Perhaps i need to add deb package link to sources.list?
[19:09] <crom_> I have a general random freezes on lucyd 2.6.38-16-generic.....the main errors on dmesg are: ACPI Warning: 32/64 FACS address mismatch in FAD.... EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[19:09] <brandon420> Linkandzelda, system settings> startup programs
[19:09] <tsubaki> Linkandzelda : just add the command or locate the binary and add it
[19:10] <crom_> anyone can give me a  hand with that? or point me somewhere
[19:10] <Linkandzelda> brandon420: will the process name do the trick?
[19:10] <tsubaki> yes linkandzelda
[19:10] <brandon420> Linkandzelda, what are you trying to add? but most likely. Use what ever you would type to start it in the terminal
[19:11] <jaha> Question: wicd does not try to reconnect to a wired connection once it is lost, for example if you unplug the wired cable, wait a bit and plug it back in, wicd does not restablish an IP... seems like odd behavior, any ideas on how to fix?
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> Linkandzelda, The startup applications will not show everything it controls so run this command to add them if you want to tweak it with this e apps as well.  sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[19:11] <Linkandzelda> brandon420: just all the apps i want to start, so i'll check it and see if it works with process name lol
[19:12] <_cronus_> food, sorry, thought it was 12.10 kernel. my mistake. forget everything i said. i have no idea.
[19:12] <food> _cronus_, pm please?
[19:12] <tsubaki> ok Nvidia drivers, Unity Will not start
[19:13] <tsubaki> can I get help?
[19:13] <VLanZ> i'm having a "low graphic mode" issue when booting 12.10 w/out monitor. Is there any way to get ubuntu to remember the last corret configuration?
[19:13] <dr_willis> tsubaki: what have you installed so far. whats the chipset
[19:13] <dericmo> can someone help me, i am having problems installing a downloaded xampp on my system
[19:13] <tsubaki> its a GTX 460se dr_willis
[19:13] <tsubaki> the nouveau works but is slugish
[19:14] <tsubaki> when I install the nvidia ones compiz will not start and other lovely things
[19:14] <OerHeks> dericmo xamp is not recommended, use LAMP
[19:14] <dr_willis> tsubaki: installing them how?
[19:14] <dericmo> k, but still how do i manage this?
[19:14] <JimmyNeutron> VLanZ: I had similar problem and adding this to my /etc/rc.local helped: sleep 1 && service lightdm restart
[19:15] <Mark__> How do I get thr boot menu on the Mac?
[19:15] <tsubaki> dr_willis : I just installed it and its stuck like this
[19:15] <JimmyNeutron> But then I wasn't running a headless system
[19:15] <VLanZ> JimmyNeutron: ok lets see if it works
[19:15] <tsubaki> also when I remove them it goes back to normal
[19:15] <OerHeks> !xampp | dericmo
[19:15] <_cronus_> food, i would prefer to keep this public, but if you want ok.
[19:15] <dericmo> i keep getting the following error: tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[19:16] <dr_willis> tsubaki: you used the nvudia drivers from the repos? or the. run drivers from nvidia.com?
[19:16] <Mark__> I mean how do I get the grub boot menu on Mac os x
[19:16] <tsubaki> dr_willis : I used the ones from the repos first, then the ones from their website and they're both broken
[19:17] <Mark__> To boot into recovery
[19:17] <bcuraboy> hi guys.how can i restore my system to a default installation without formatting my system and losing my data?
[19:17] <Mark__> Hello anyone know
[19:17] <tsubaki> bcuraboy : terminal, unity --reset
[19:18] <bcuraboy> that's all?
[19:18] <tsubaki> and remove all the stuff you installed
[19:18] <bcuraboy> hmmm
[19:19] <dr_willis> bcuraboy: depends on what defaults you mean also.
[19:19] <dericmo> thanks ubottu
[19:19] <bcuraboy> i mean like a newer installation
[19:19] <bcuraboy> without all the apps i've installed
[19:19] <bcuraboy> but non losing my data
[19:19] <dr_willis> thats not very clear...
[19:19] <bcuraboy> i mean,my files
[19:20] <tsubaki> remove the programs, the ppa's and run unity --reset
[19:20] <dericmo> so whatz the difference between XAMPP and LAMP
[19:21] <tsubaki> ok nvidia drivers confirmed for being broken!
[19:21] <tsubaki> just lovely
[19:21] <OerHeks> tsubaki, did you reboot after install nvidia-driver?
[19:21] <tsubaki> yes compiz wont start
[19:22] <aquethys> Hi, I have installed a wubi on my hp pavilion dv6 but now I'm nearing the capacity of space ( downloading a bunch of source code for android development) how do I extend the space wubi has?
[19:22] <tsubaki> you can't
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> tsubaki, unity --reset is deprecated in 12.10
[19:22] <tsubaki> it is?
[19:23] <aquethys> So how can I free up space? Do I have to transfer to a partition?
[19:23] <tsubaki> yup
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Wubi is for trying out ubuntu not long term use, you can transfer it to a partition, there is a wiki for this.
[19:23] <tsubaki> resizing partitions is extremly difficult unless you did them manually
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> tsubaki, A wubi is not in a partition.
[19:24] <tsubaki> oh
[19:24] <dericmo> can someone help me with the link for downloading LAMP
[19:24] <tsubaki> right its installed in ntfs with windows
[19:25] <xangua> aquethys: time to do a real install :)
[19:26] <dericmo> can someone help me with the link for downloading LAMP for ubuntu
[19:26] <ThinkT510> !lamp | dericmo
[19:28] <Elise001> Getting strange output when key in at cmd line gcc test02.c
[19:28] <Elise001> Trying to compile and run simple hello world type pgm in c.
[19:29] <aquethys> Okay, so on the article: It says
[19:29] <aquethys>  The examples shown below assume the target partition is /dev/sda5 and the swap partition (if required) is /dev/sda6.
[19:29] <Elise001> Would appreciate help with this.
[19:29] <aquethys> Err how do I make sure of this?
[19:29] <Elise001> Please.
[19:29] <KanuckWhipsChain> Hello All
[19:29] <Elise001> test02.c has only a few lines of code.
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Post the page you are looking at
[19:29] <dr_willis> Elise001: pastebin details and erroes.
[19:30] <gordonjcp> Elise001: pastebin your code and the errors
[19:30] <aquethys> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[19:30] <dr_willis> we dont have esp... yet.
[19:30] <Elise001> elise@elise-laptop:~/Desktop$ gcc test02.c
[19:30] <Elise001> test02.c:1:10: error: #include expects "FILENAME" or <FILENAME>
[19:30] <Elise001> test02.c: In function ‘main’:
[19:30] <Elise001> test02.c:4: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ‘printf’
[19:30] <Elise001> test02.c:4: error: stray ‘\342’ in program
[19:30] <Elise001> test02.c:4: error: stray ‘\200’ in program
[19:30] <Elise001> test02.c:4: error: stray ‘\234’ in program
[19:30] <Elise001> test02.c:4: error: ‘This’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[19:30] <sloppy> Hello everyone.
[19:30] <Elise001> test02.c:4: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[19:30] <FloodBot1> Elise001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:30] <Elise001> test02.c:4: error: for each function it appears in.)
[19:31] <dr_willis> note the term pastebin  Elise001 ....... as in pastebin.com
[19:31] <Elise001> Pastebin?
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, THe commands is to point the move at the partitions you have built, then you put the number of them in the command.
[19:31] <aquethys> I haven't built any partitions. How do I? Lol sorry
[19:31] <aquethys> I'm in Ubuntu 12.10 right now btw
[19:32] <[snake]> Theres 12.10
[19:32] <[snake]> ?
[19:32] <aquethys> Yeah
[19:32] <MaynardMcJizz> Hey, whats the terminal command to install KDE onto Ubuntu using Sudo?
[19:32] <aquethys> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
[19:32] <dr_willis> Elise001: and filenames in linux are case sensitive.. if that may be the issue.
[19:32] <sloppy> I GRAB LITTLE ASIAN BOYS AND TAKE THEM TO BACK ALLIES WHERE I MOLEST THEM WITH THE ANCIENT ASIAN PEE PEE TOUCH.
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, You have W7?
[19:32] <aquethys> Yeah
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> !ops | sloppy
[19:33] <MaynardMcJizz> Whats the package name of KDE for Ubuntu?
[19:33] <MaynardMcJizz> Like Kde-Desktop or something?
[19:33] <MaynardMcJizz> the apt-get
[19:33] <dr_willis> kubuntu-desktop
[19:33] <MaynardMcJizz> Ohh ok thanks
[19:33] <Robbilie> ubuntu-desktop i think
[19:34] <MaynardMcJizz> I think Ubuntu-desktop is Gnome
[19:34] <dr_willis> !kubuntu
[19:34] <Wizard> Yo.
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Get a live ubuntu cd and we need to confirm how many primary partitions are on the HD as of now there is a limit of 4 on a standard setup. So get the ISO make a cd or usb and post a screenshot of gparted. YOu will want to use the W7 diak manager to resize it for making partitions with gparted on the live cd.
[19:35] <elbeto> Im using xubuntu 12.10, how can i change admin password?
[19:35] <aquethys> k I have a live cd
[19:35] <aquethys> Gparted screenshot coming
[19:36] <aquethys> Um how do I access gparted
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> elbeto, in the terminal passwd  if you know the one there now
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, gparted is app on the live cd.
[19:37] <aquethys> Um but I can't boot on the live cd because of this error I get when I try to boot from it.
[19:37] <elbeto> wilee-nilee, i know the password, i want to change it
[19:37] <ton1c> P
[19:37] <aquethys> It keeps saying after I hit continue to install alongside windows "Remove all installation media and press enter"
[19:37] <aquethys> And then it reboots into windows 7.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, YOU know the boot from menu outside of the bios?
[19:37] <aquethys> What do you mean? I accessed bios and set boot from CD as #1 priority..
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> elbeto, passwd in the terminal will allow you to change the user password.
[19:38] <tsubaki-d> software center giving me these weird artifacts https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25199668/Screenshot%20from%202012-11-04%2015%3A33%3A56.png
[19:38] <Elise001> For s some reason, when I try to pastebin my source c pgm, looks like it is going to this channel. Then it does not.
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, There is another boot from menu not in the bios, it is reached with key prompts like you would get to the bios, but different, mine is f12 yours may be different.
[19:39] <elbeto> thanks!
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> Elise001, YOU have to post the url
[19:39] <tsubaki-d> ok so I got this bug with my system, any one know a work around? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1068236
[19:40] <dsprc> wilee-nilee, aquethys: f9-12 are usually the magic bullets
[19:40] <Elise001> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1332932/
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> dsprc, sometimes esc could be anything. ;)
[19:41] <dsprc> saw a few odd (and old) award bios setups that had ctrl as the eject button
[19:41] <aquethys> Wilee what do you need from me to be able to do this? I'm not sure. :|
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, If you look on the web with your computer model or manufacturer with boot fro menu you may find the keys needed, or post the computer here we may know.
[19:42] <trism> tsubaki-d: install the linux headers for your kernel: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r);
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> from*
[19:42] <tsubaki-d> thanks trism
[19:42] <aquethys> HP Pavilion dv6-7043cl. Anyone know how to get into boot from menu not in BIOS?
[19:42] <tsubaki-d> do I just install the drivers after that?
[19:42] <dr_willis> Elise001: what text editor did you use to type in the code?
[19:43] <trism> tsubaki-d: if you already selected the drivers, they should automatically build when installing the headers, so you shouldn't have to do anything but reboot
[19:43] <tsubaki-d> well im running nouveau right now
[19:43] <trism> tsubaki-d: check: dkms status; after installing though to verified that their status is "installed"
[19:43] <JimmyNeutron> aquethys: Are you asking how to access the boot menu?  F9 for my dv6-7000
[19:44] <aquethys> okay
[19:44] <aquethys> Wilee
[19:44] <aquethys> what do you need
[19:44] <aquethys> from that menu
[19:44] <tsubaki-d> trism : can I install the drivers after I install the headers?
[19:44] <FloodBot1> aquethys: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <aquethys> Oops >_>
[19:44] <dsprc> aquethys: try f12. then select the device you wish to boot from
[19:44] <Elise001> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1332958/
[19:44] <trism> tsubaki-d: yes
[19:45] <tsubaki-d> ok lets hope this works
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Your question makes no sense, I am trying to get you to a menu that looks a lot like the bios choice but it is a direct boot in.
[19:45] <aquethys> yes if I get into the menu what should I do?
[19:45] <Elise001> That was the output when I tried to use gcc to compile my simple c program. Did I pastebin correctly?
[19:45] <dsprc> aquethys: we have no way of knowing what the exact names of those devices will be.
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, choose the option accordingly if a cd choose cd if a usb choose usb
[19:45] <aquethys> okay
[19:46] <VlanZ> is there any way i can view the current automatic Xorg configuration?
[19:46] <dr_willis> Elise001: what text editor did you use to type in the code?... and you did install the 'build-essentials' package?
[19:46] <trism> Elise001: are you maybe using strange unicode symbols in the #include line?
[19:46] <dr_willis> !b-e
[19:47] <dr_willis> trism: or he used notepad.exe and copied the file from windows
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Not sure of the error you have gotten from the bios change, but we assume here you have checked the ISO and or cd's md5sum and it was burnt if a cd as an image at the slowest speed. In other words that the boot cd or usb is good to go.
[19:47] <trism> dr_willis: indeed could be
[19:47] <Elise001> dr_willis: I installed that package.
[19:48] <ron> hi everyone. when I try to apt-get install something, I get this error message: "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list". However, when I look at /etc/apt/sources.list, the list seems fine. any ideas?
[19:48] <Elise001> I think I used Open office.
[19:49] <dr_willis> Elise001: use a text editor like  gedit or geany
[19:49] <trism> dr_willis: though \342 \200 \234 is octal for “
[19:49] <dsprc> ron: you are trying to download source code packages. if you want source code with apt you have to enable a source repo
[19:49] <dr_willis> geany is good.. i reccomend it.. Elise001
[19:50] <s0up> hey -- just took some updates on 12.0.4 and now unity greeter runs out of mem, dies, and then restarts
[19:50] <dsprc> ron: what packages are you trying to install and can you pastebin your sources.list?
[19:50] <s0up> cant get past the login page.. can F1 into command line but it'll still go back to the greeter after a few seconds
[19:50] <Elise001> I have installed geany. But not sure how to use it.
[19:50] <roychri> Hello, I just installed on a old computer and I get connectivity issues. I can connect with SSH but it takes about 10 seconds before asking for password.  HTTP works fine, really fast.  When I run tracert (win7) from my desktop to the server, I get "Request timed out" on all hop.  Same when I run traceroute from the linux to my desktop, I get request timed out on all hop.  I do not know where to start debugging this :(
[19:50] <ron> dsprc: sure, give me a sec to do a little test first.
[19:50] <tsubaki> trism : I think its working now, thanks
[19:50] <trism> tsubaki: excellent
[19:50] <dr_willis> Elise001: its a text editor.... type.. save...
[19:51] <dr_willis> then use the shell to compile and run if you want...
[19:52] <paco_> Hi I do not have sound for music of for stream video but for for some other applications I do have... does any one have any idea what could it be???
[19:53] <ironhalik> Can I tell GRUB to reboot automatically choose certain menu antry on reboot? Let's say I want to reboot into windows on next boot, with simple command
[19:53] <dr_willis> paco_: what video streams
[19:53] <danielboston26> does anyone know how to boot into recovery mode on the mac?
[19:53] <trism> s0up: anything funny in /var/log/x-?-greeter.log ?
[19:53] <paco_> dr_willis, youtube
[19:53] <s0up> lemme check trism
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> ironhalik, You can but it is not an easy change at your whim basically.
[19:53] <danielboston26> if i press esc or shift it doesn't work
[19:53] <aquethys> okay so I got to the other boot menu by spamming f9 button. Now I'm booted up and "Trying Ubuntu" what shoudl I do now? gparted?
[19:54] <throwed54> Hello, is wilee-nilee around
[19:54] <ron> dsprc: thanks, I added the source repos and it works fine now.
[19:54] <ironhalik> wilee-nilee: some scripting and changing /etc/default/grub?
[19:54] <trism> s0up: sorry that is /var/log/lightdm/x-?-greeter.log
[19:54] <Elise001> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1332983/         from Elise
[19:54] <s0up> trism i do not see a greeter logs
[19:54] <s0up> oh k
[19:54] <paco_> dr_willis, I also have sound some apps but no for anything related to music or video...also dvds play with no sound
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Yeah take a screenshot of gparted looking at the HD with prtsc and imagebin it
[19:54] <s0up> lol hard to do stuff fast wtih cpu at 100%
[19:54] <aquethys> http://i.imgur.com/xgXyl.png
[19:54] <dsprc> ron: congrats! \o/
[19:54] <trism> Elise001: you have curly quotes on the first line
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | aquethys
[19:54] <aquethys> Got it wilee
[19:55] <trism> Elise001: and it should be #include <stdio.h> anyway
[19:55] <dr_willis> ironhalik: its doable from what ive read of the grub docs. theres a "saved" option and cli tools to set the default
[19:55] <danielboston26> does anyone know????
[19:55] <throwed54> wilee-nilee: had a hell of time on Oct 31st, GRUG Rescue showed up when I tried booting my computer. used boot-repair and everythings ok now, just have a 500 gig parition in Windows now, but I'm ok with that.
[19:55] <ironhalik> I guess I'll stick with manual mode, for now :>
[19:55] <gordonjcp> Elise001: so what happens when you compile it?
[19:55] <trism> Elise001: you need to fix the curly quotes on the printf line too
[19:55] <danielboston26> hello/?
[19:55] <paco_> dr_willis, do you think is any misconfiguration on the sound??
[19:55] <tsubaki> ok I got 2 monitors up, how do I configure their behavior, I hate it when I maximise it on one display and it jumps to another
[19:55] <dr_willis> trism:   ;-)
[19:55] <OerHeks> danielboston26, that info should be in the mac pages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[19:56] <bcuraboy> how can i get the xscrrensaver collection?
[19:56] <bcuraboy> *xscreensaver
[19:56] <s0up> nothing too weird trism
[19:57] <s0up> i did some updates then after never seeing it, the accessibility icon came back
[19:57] <dr_willis> tsubaki: ive seen some badly written apps do that. and others dont. i use  twinview for my nvudia options.
[19:57] <s0up> and some colors on apps like terminal were all white
[19:57] <danielboston26> OerHeks: that site doesn't have 12.10
[19:57] <danielboston26> OerHeks: thats the version im using
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> ironhalik, I forget I messed with it and found it really to be a hassle, and not worth it to me. You can change the default easily, but getting one to run without changing it when you want is a bit different, here is the latest grub manual link. https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[19:57] <OerHeks> danielboston26, 12.10 or 12.04 , same info
[19:57] <trism> s0up: how about lightdm.log ? is unity-greeter crashing?
[19:57] <aquethys> wilee-nilee http://i.imgur.com/xgXyl.png
[19:58] <paco_> anyone can help me with sound configuration??
[19:58] <s0up> yeah it runs out of mem, kernel kills it
[19:58] <trism> s0up: dmesg might also tell you if it is
[19:58] <s0up> and then it gets started again
[19:58] <danielboston26> latest it has is 11.10 OerHeks
[19:58] <tsubaki> dr_willis : I have it on twin view, I think I fixed it. also it was firefox doing it but its working I think now
[19:58] <keithamus> I have an Ubuntu install which is a VM on top of my Proxmox Debian server. I'm using NFS to share some storage to the Ubuntu client (ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Server Edition). I cannot seem to access the NFS directory even though I can see it is mounted. I try to `ls` and it hangs.
[19:58] <codepoet> my grub entry is messed up and hence Windows is not booting. Can anyone please help out?
[19:58] <dr_willis> tsubaki: i had ff do it. but not chromeium-browser
[19:59] <s0up> lightdm.log just shows sessions starting etc tris
[19:59] <throwed54> codepoet: run boot-repair in Ubuntu
[19:59] <s0up> trism*
[19:59] <s0up> nothing too weird
[19:59] <VLanX> JimmyNeutron: sorry it didnt work.. :(  is there a way to configure manually xorg.conf ?
[19:59] <danielboston26> so no one knows?
[19:59] <OerHeks> danielboston26, so did you try it? the info is still the same
[19:59] <throwed54> codepoet: had the same problem as you
[19:59] <tsubaki> dr_willis : trivial question, how do I set diffrent wallpapers on my displays?
[19:59] <trism> s0up: that is odd, what were you doing before it started?
[19:59] <paco_> thanks all
[19:59] <wyclif> I have a PC that I want to install Ubuntu on that has a SCSI card (an Adaptec 29160). The CDROM is device #3. I've burned an Ubuntu ISO and I can't get the install media to boot. I've changed the boot order in the BIOS to "SCSI" and in the SCSI BIOS edited the boot order to boot from device #3 (the CDROM). Yet, I still cannot get the ISO to boot from the CDROM. Any ideas?
[19:59] <s0up> shows out of memory kill process X (unity-greeter) score 942 or scrifice child
[19:59] <codepoet> throwed54 do I need to install it?
[20:00] <throwed54> codepoet: yes
[20:00] <throwed54> codepoet: google boot-repair
[20:00] <dagonous> bah gnome 3 sux
[20:00] <dr_willis> tsubaki: use a single wallpaper file you custome make is how i do it
[20:00] <danielboston26> OerHeks: doesn't say anything about recovery
[20:00] <codepoet>  throwed54 will try.
[20:00] <throwed54> ill get you the link
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, So you have 4 primary partitions you have to lose one to do a Install of ubuntu in a extended. THe easiest to lose and resize would be the recovery. can you run a image of the windows to a external HD so you can remove the recovery=sda3.  Another otion is mocing the HP tools to the extended by saving it off the disc then reloading it.
[20:00] <keithamus> When I "strace ls /the/dir", the last line of output is `stat("/the/dir"` and it hangs there. Anyone have any idea on how to fix this?
[20:00] <tsubaki> dr_willis I geuss il do that
[20:00] <JimmyNeutron> VLanX: Not sure.  Haven't research that far into it.  I encounter the same error as you on my laptop that was equip w/ an Intel HD 4000 + nVidia GT630M.  I resolved it by using bumblebee.
[20:00] <throwed54> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:00] <throwed54> codepoet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:00] <throwed54> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[20:01] <throwed54> sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[20:01] <Linkandzelda> I'm really annoyed at the unity launcher now :(
[20:01] <keithamus> Oddly I have a separate ubuntu VM, same installation ISO, 12.04.1 LTS Server, which works fine
[20:01] <aquethys> Do I have to run an image of windows to external HD or can I just go ahead and remove recovery?
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> aquethys,Hope that makes sense inspite of the misspells
[20:01] <codepoet> throwed54: installing now
[20:01] <sheikh> hey guys. I have a question. You know how in Ubuntu using a physical mouse, the middle click will auto paste highlighted text. How do I replicate the same on my touch pad, 3 fingers touch brings this window for resizing instead of middle clikc
[20:01] <throwed54> congrats
[20:02] <danielboston26> is FlowRiser still here?
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, You want to be able to reload windows no matter what, if you have a OEM reinstall set you could remove it.
[20:02] <FlowRiser> danielboston26, yes i am
[20:02] <codepoet> throwed54: did you have this problem after you updated Ubuntu?
[20:02] <aquethys> So if I remove recovery partition without putting windows image on external HD will I be able to load windows no matter what?
[20:02] <wyclif> IOW to get a SCSI CDROM to boot the installation media, do I need to change the boot order in the regular system BIOS or in the SCSI BIOS?
[20:02] <gordonjcp> wyclif: both probably
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, We are really backup orientated here it will save you alot of problems.
[20:03] <gordonjcp> wyclif: where on earth are you getting a SCSI CDROM from?
[20:03] <danielboston26> FlowRiser: i cannot boot into recovery on my mac or i can't figure out how to do it is there another way to fix my problem with the nvida driver?
[20:03] <aquethys> I don't have an external HD though :| Is it possible for us to just try deleting recovery parttion?
[20:03] <wyclif> gordonjcp this PC has a SCSI card with a Seagate SCSI HDD and a SCSI CDROM on the bus
[20:03] <codepoet> throwed54: did you have this problem after you updated Ubuntu? I updated mine which messed up my windows grub entry
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, If you do not have a way of reinstalling windows and you want to have windows I cannot help you.
[20:04] <FlowRiser> danielboston26, yeah, use a livecd, but i don't know the steps from there on :-?
[20:04] <trism> s0up: you don't have a bunch of users in /etc/passwd do you? (it's an older accountservice bug)
[20:04] <s0up> i shouldn't trism
[20:04] <aquethys> okay that's good
[20:04] <wyclif> gordonjcp: it's a Plextor SCSI CDROM drive
[20:04] <s0up> this laptop is a few weeks old
[20:04] <aquethys> deleting recovery partition now.
[20:04] <s0up> confusing the hell out of me though.. once i boot i'm at like 100% cpu/mem
[20:05] <trism> s0up: would you mind pastebin lightdm.log and the greeter log (if there is anything in there)? you might also want to: sudo stop lightdm; so it calms down for the moment
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Most if not all manufacturers will sell you a OEM disc set for reinstalling, that is the first thing I get when buying a computers with windows myself, it was only 30$ last time I did this.
[20:05] <Linkandzelda> guys I just made a huge mistake. how do I manually edit the compizconfig values? I've made the compizconfig window 100% transparent...
[20:05] <codepoet> \msg  throwed54 there?
[20:05] <s0up> and btw sorry this is 12.10
[20:05] <wyclif> gordonjcp: so, change the boot order in BIOS to CDROM and the SCSI BIOS to boot CDROM first? I think I tried that...
[20:06] <s0up> not 12.0.4
[20:06] <aquethys> don't have one :( so deleting the recovery and we'll see
[20:06] <gordonjcp> wyclif: yup
[20:06] <FlowRiser> danielboston26, i found a way to do it: http://www.tuxation.com/chrooting-into-a-linux-environment.html
[20:06] <aquethys> I can live w/o windows
[20:06] <aquethys> just preference
[20:06] <ElixirVitae> So, it was fine after I updated nvidia drivers when I first installed ubuntu, but, now, it again shows blue-ish videos in firefox. Why is that happening, as I didn't change anything that would effect it or updated driver?
[20:07] <s0up> yeah trism stopping lightdm made the lag stop
[20:08] <aquethys> @wilee-nilee how long does it take to delete this partition? o.0
[20:08] <s0up> i cant really paste you easily trism since i'm stuck in cli here but
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, So lets say you decide to sell your computer, is it more valuable and easier to sell with a windows system on  it. I think you are getting your cart in front of your horse here.  With a little planning and backing up you can cover your bootie for any instance..
[20:08] <wyclif> gordonjcp: see, logically I thought that the BIOS has to boot "SCSI" first to go through the card, then on the SCSI bus it boots the CDROM first which is set from the SCSI BIOS???
[20:08] <s0up> it just shows a bunch of started session, sending signal 15 to process X.. process exited with return value 0.. then it stops
[20:08] <dsprc> s0up: i am on a console too. install gnu screen and you can copy/paste stuff
[20:08] <s0up> (lightdm.log)
[20:09] <trism> s0up: if you have network access you could use pastebinit (after installing it)
[20:09] <wyclif> gordonjcp: but that doesn't work, so obv. I am doing it wrong
[20:09] <s0up> im not a hax0r and i dont use irrsi lol
[20:09] <aquethys> Actually this computer is just a temp computer for me...
[20:09] <s0up> sec
[20:09] <aquethys> Don't need to resell or anything
[20:09] <s0up> ill just installl sshd here and get it from my main box
[20:09] <VLanX> can i check in 12.10 if i'm running in 3D or 2D unity?
[20:09] <dr_willis> 12.10 has no unity 2d
[20:10] <aquethys> @wilee-nilee: Is this done? http://i.imgur.com/PINJ0.png
[20:10] <VLanX> dr_willis: i'm asking that because i don't see the smooth fading that i had in 12.04 anymore when i iconize a window
[20:10] <aquethys> It still says pending
[20:11] <aquethys> oh nvm
[20:11] <aquethys> needed to click the checkmark
[20:11] <s0up> trism: https://paste.tinyw.in/index.php/view/96595221
[20:11] <s0up> that is lightdm.log
[20:11] <dr_willis> VLanX: what video chipset?
[20:11] <aquethys> okay
[20:11] <aquethys> http://i.imgur.com/2mnZ9.png
[20:11] <aquethys> @wilee-nilee
[20:12] <s0up> https://paste.tinyw.in/index.php/view/31341920 this is dmesg
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, You can remove the recovery with gparted it will instantly be gone. You would then reboot to W7 to shrink the C partition with its disk manager, resize it leaving a unallocated space large enough for the ubuntu install.  Reboot it to let it run its auto chksk, make sure it is running fine, then boot the ubuntu disc and choose the install alongside windows it will bukid the partitons for it.
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> build*
[20:12] <aquethys> okay cool
[20:12] <VLanX> dr_willis: HD4000 integrated graphics
[20:12] <aquethys> How much should I shrink by
[20:12] <aquethys> @wilee
[20:13] <kefob> Can anyone tell me how long the Copying Installation files should take?  It has been going for at least an hour now
[20:13] <d0min8r3> Hello?
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, Ah I forgot the wubi move, If you want to move the wubi, you would have to buils the partitions in gparted the ubuntu and the swap inside a extended partition then do the wubi transfer
[20:14] <aquethys> so how would I do this
[20:14] <compdoc> kefob, about 10 15 mins
[20:14] <compdoc> 10-15
[20:14] <aquethys> make a new partition?
[20:14] <kefob> so what do you think is the problem with it?
[20:14] <d0min8r3> Anyone know how to change to Ubuntu Netbook Remix Desktop On Ubuntu 12.10
[20:15] <compdoc> kefob, might just be a glitch. you having it format a drive? just try again
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, First question how big you need to decide how big ubuntu has to be then resize the windows accordingly.
[20:15] <xangua> !une | d0min8r3
[20:15] <aquethys> 200GB
[20:15] <aquethys> should be good
[20:15] <mllie> hello
[20:16] <aquethys> maybe 250. Cuz I have 1TB on this machine
[20:16] <d0min8r3> Yeah, but there is a way to add startup commands or something to change the style
[20:16] <kefob> This is my second attempt.  Same thing happened before.  I am installing next to a Win 7 installation, had 70GB partition set aside for Ubuntu
[20:16] <kefob> I am doing the installation inside of a live disc
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, second question if you get this all to the point of having the unallocated after removing the sda3 and resizing windows with its partitioner you will use gparted on the live cd to build the extended to fill that unallocated then a ext4 logical and a swap inside the extended, I can or someone will help you there. ;)
[20:17] <mllie> I've just made an upgrade from 8.x to 10.x LTS and now the screen is just black after the text that loads the kernel after grub has disappeared. How do I do to debug this?
[20:18] <d0min8r3> So, no one knows?
[20:18] <bobo37773> d0min8r3: What is your question?
[20:18] <aquethys> err How do I use gparted to build a partition to fill the unallocated so I can install?
[20:18] <trism> s0up: hmm, this is the point I'd love to fire up a gdb session and see what unity-greeter is doing, if you were to install lightdm-gtk-greeter and switch to that, does the greeter come up?
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> mllie, Do you know how to insert nomodeset in the kernel at grub, to get a low graphics boot.
[20:18] <aquethys> I notice /dev/sda2 has 900GB. How do I transfer some of that to Ubuntu?
[20:18] <d0min8r3> I can't figure out how to change the style to UNR
[20:18] <bobo37773> aquethys: The installer should already be able to install into unallocated space
[20:19] <mllie> wilee-nilee: no?
[20:19] <bobo37773> d0min8r3: Style of what?
[20:19] <s0up> what do you mean by fire gdb session and see what the greeter is doing?
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> !noimodeset | mllie
[20:19] <d0min8r3> Desktop
[20:19] <s0up> (i'm more of a linux USER than an admin)
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset |mll
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> mllie,  ^^^
[20:19] <RyanLWilliams> Hi, may I change to GRUB boot loader to a custom one
[20:20] <Chotaz`> let's say I messed up really bad with the purge command, and I don't even have a terminal, how can I backup some files before freshinstalling?
[20:20] <aquethys> okay let me give this a try
[20:20] <trism> s0up: it's okay, don't worry about it, try installing lightdm-gtk-greeter and set greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and start lightdm
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, I have the feeling here you are lost am I right?
[20:20] <aquethys> Sort of
[20:20] <EnderMB> Hi all. I'm running 12.10 on my dell studio xps 8100 and the fan doesn't seem to be working. I've tried running acpi and I get "no support for device type power_supply". It seem to work fine on Windows 7 though. Any ideas on what I should do next?
[20:20] <s0up> thx for the help btw trism this has been killing me for a few hours lol
[20:20] <bobo37773> d0min8r3: So you want the window manager from the ubuntu netbook remix? Is that it?
[20:20] <aquethys> My /dev/sda2 has 900GB space..
[20:20] <aquethys> How do I reduce that
 use gparted to resize
[20:21] <trism> s0up: no problem, it is a curious issue, I'm wondering if logging into the ubuntu session will give you the same sort of issues even without unity-greeter
[20:21] <d0min8r3> bobo37773: I wanted Netbook remix alone but yeah since it doesn't exist anymore I'll have to go with the desktop layout
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, The problem I think is you are trying to understand to much this is rather easy if you know what you are doing, but trying to understand it and remember it all, and include additional info like moving stuff from windows is a bit of a strech for anyone. ;)
[20:21] <bobo37773> d0min8r3: Does this help at all? --> http://www.starkeith.net/coredump/2011/05/02/bringing-back-the-classic-netbook-remix-interface-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[20:21] <phirex> I dont mind messing with terminal a little bit, but i prefer not to, does anyone know a upnp media server that is easy to use? or anyone can guide me with MediaTomb? I added my folder "Downloads" and it doesnt show the sub-directories of it....
[20:22] <s0up> yeah trism
[20:22] <s0up> back in the laptop lol
[20:22] <gordonjcp> phirex: mediatomb is fiddly as hell to get going
[20:22] <RLW980> Hi, may I change to GRUB boot loader to a custom one
[20:22] <s0up> that was stupid
[20:22] <s0up> just decided to self destruct
[20:22] <d0min8r3> Yes, thank you.
[20:22] <qwebirc21119> Hello.  Is it possible to create a bootable Ubuntu 12.10 LiveUSB using the 'dd' command (assuming /dev/sdb is the USB device)?:    dd  if=/path/to/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso  of=/dev/sdb
[20:22] <gordonjcp> phirex: I use minidlna, but you will need to use the terminal a little to get it set up
[20:22] <aquethys> Ugh brb
[20:22] <gordonjcp> phirex: once it's going it's pretty much rock solid
[20:23] <Chotaz`> let's say I messed up really bad with the purge command, and I don't even have a terminal, how can I backup some files before freshinstalling?
[20:23] <trism> s0up: so you managed to log in with lightdm-gtk-greeter? or not?
[20:23] <phirex> gordonjcp: does it refresh the directories automatically?
[20:23] <s0up> yessir
[20:23] <gordonjcp> Chotaz`: just boot the live image
[20:23] <gordonjcp> phirex: yes, mostly
[20:23] <s0up> logged in successful, in the comp w/ a session running
[20:23] <gordonjcp> phirex: I've managed to catch it out
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, As far as resizing the /dev/sda2 as I suggeted windows has a app called the disk manager it is a partitioner, you would use it in the live running windows to resize it.
[20:23] <siMa> ?
[20:23] <dr_willis> qwebirc21119: that should work
[20:23] <trism> s0up: system seem okay? nothing using a ton of mem or cpu?
[20:23] <kefob> Did anyone have any suggestions for my problem :)
[20:23] <twirm> Chotaz`: what did you purge?
[20:23] <Chotaz`> twikz, wine*
[20:23] <phirex> gordonjcp: catch it out?
[20:23] <s0up> top says my computer is doing nothing and being lazy
[20:24] <trism> s0up: good to hear, at least it seems to be a specific bug in unity-greeter
[20:24] <Chotaz`> twikz, got home really high yesterday and wrote purge instead of remove somehow
[20:24] <gordonjcp> phirex: very occasionally when I drop a bunch of stuff into a directory under circumstances I can never quite replicate, it doesn't update properly
[20:24]  * s0up knows better than to just take updates
[20:24] <s0up> but i was feeling dangerous
[20:24] <gordonjcp> phirex: usually restarting it cures the problem, and if that doesn't I just delete its database and let it re-index the content
[20:24] <trism> s0up: can you pastebin the updates you did today, yesterday from /var/log/apt/history.log ?
[20:24] <s0up> sure
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> aquethys, All you have to do is remove the sda3 with gparted, then boot to windows and resize the sda2 leaving a space the size you want ubuntu to be in, including a consideration of the size of the swap there as well.
[20:25] <phirex> gordonjcp: i'm really surprised theres no easy to use program with a gui :/
[20:25] <twirm> Chotaz`: can you ctrl+alt+f1 into another terminal?
[20:25] <gordonjcp> phirex: it seems that if I add files to it when my PS3 is actively streaming stuff, it doesn't update properly
[20:25] <gordonjcp> phirex: it's a server
[20:25] <An_Ony_Moose> Is there a .pc file for glut? I can't seem to find one.
[20:25] <gordonjcp> phirex: why would a server have a GUI?
[20:25] <EnderMB> I've Googled the problem, cleaned out dust from my machine and checked the BIOS settings. Since it works fine with Windows I assume it's a bug or something?
[20:25] <phirex> gordonjcp: to set it up...
[20:25] <s0up> trism: https://paste.tinyw.in/index.php/view/50578805
[20:25] <twirm> Chotaz`: if you can get there you can try running apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:25] <gordonjcp> phirex: I don't understand
[20:25] <EnderMB> It also works fine from the live CD so I can't see why the fans aren't turning on
[20:25] <gordonjcp> how would you even see the GUI?
[20:26] <s0up> Install: lightdm-gtk-greeter:amd64 (1.3.1-0ubuntu1) is probably the offending binary
[20:26] <Chotaz`> twirm, sorry I was writting to the wrong person, thanks I wasn't even remembering that
[20:26] <phirex> gordonjcp: im talking about setting up which folders the server would share
[20:26] <gordonjcp> phirex: oh, you just list those in the config file
[20:26] <Chotaz`> twirm, is there anything like an history for packages removed where I could just undo this mess?
[20:26] <phirex> gordonjcp: so what else should be tweaked before its ready to go?
[20:26] <gordonjcp> uh, not a lot
[20:27] <mllie> wilee-nilee: still same problem
[20:27] <phirex> gordonjcp: ok anyway i'll try it now! thanks :)
[20:27] <danielboston26> So i installed the nividia driver and now i no longer get a desktop how do i fix this
[20:27] <twirm> Chotaz`: I've never really run into something like that, but ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that holds most of the core Desktop experience
[20:27] <gordonjcp> phirex: I literally just changed the line that says media_dir=/whatever to point to where I put video
 does the pc freeze or reboot due to temperature?
[20:28] <mllie> wilee-nilee: I get this error just before the screen goes black I think: http://askubuntu.com/questions/182371/12-04-1-error-after-upgrade
[20:28] <rapha> Hi!
[20:28] <danielboston26> anyone know the fix?
[20:28] <Chotaz`> twikz, I've sure lost that, every windows looks win95 now, and every application I close disappears(deluge, chrome, terminal, vlc, all gone now)
[20:28] <qwebirc21119> dr_willis:   The reason I asked is because I'm not seeing the use of 'dd' documented at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick .  So, I thought Ubuntu Live ISO's are not designed to be dd'd onto USB (also, as explained in some answers here:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/25476/how-to-make-a-usb-drive-bootable-after-live-image-is-copied-into-it-using-dd-c  http://askubuntu.com/questions/116942/any-way-to-manu
[20:28] <semitones> Hello. I checked the md5sum for my .iso, but my usb keeps having errors. Is there any way of doing an fsck on a usb drive?
[20:28] <trism> s0up: oh hmm, I see the new glib/gtk from the gnome ppa
[20:28] <rapha> I installed Gnome 3 but it doesn't work because of the binary ATI drivers and now Unity is broken, too. How do I revert back to Unity?
[20:28] <trism> s0up: that would be my first guess
[20:28] <s0up> ahh
[20:29] <danielboston26> hello??
[20:29] <s0up> maybe i'll go back to the old greeter after a few updates :P
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> rapha, What release are you running?
[20:29] <dr_willis> qwebirc21119: befor 11.04 that was true i think
[20:29] <s0up> are you an ubuntu contributor or something trism?
[20:29] <s0up> thanks for the help
[20:29] <trism> s0up: just a user
[20:29] <Chotaz`> twirm, I've sure lost that, every windows looks win95 now, and every application I close disappears(deluge, chrome, terminal, vlc, all gone now)
[20:29] <dr_willis> qwebirc21119: dd does work with 12.04+
[20:29] <kefob> Guess I will ask again lol.  I am doing an installation of Ubuntu next to an existing Win7.  I am in the live environment, second installation attempt, and it is stuck at copying installations logs for over an hour.  Any Ideas?
[20:30] <EnderMB> Hi all. I'm running 12.10 on my dell studio xps 8100 and the fan doesn't seem to be working. I've tried running acpi and I get "no support for device type power_supply". It seem to work fine on Windows 7 though. Any ideas on what I should do next?
[20:30] <twirm> Chotaz`: haha, that'll happen. Do you remember what you purged?
[20:30] <Chotaz`> twikz, all the webpages open in gedit, thing is a reall mess
[20:30] <twirm> Chotaz`: yeah, sounds like you broke some desktop dependency with purge
[20:30] <qwebirc21119> dr_willis:  I see.  So, what was changed starting with 12.04+ to make the Live ISO capable of being dd'd onto USB?
 maybe the cpu isnt hot enough to activate the fan/
[20:31] <twirm> Chotaz`: it sounds like you lost mostly GTK packages. Were you able to get into another terminal via CTRL+ALT+F1?
[20:31] <qwebirc21119> dr_willis:  I see.  So, what was changed starting with 12.04+ to make the Live ISO capable of being dd'd onto USB?
[20:31] <s0up> well if you ever need hosting trism feel free to PM me anytime on freenode, we give free bandwidth/hosting to OSS contributors :)
[20:31] <Chotaz`> twirm, i did "sudo apt-get purge wine*" and I only noticed I'd done crap when I saw terminal output "Removing google-chrome-stable"
[20:31] <ThinkT510> qwebirc21119: it started from 11.10 and is called hybrid iso
[20:31] <semitones> What's the easiest way to fsck a usb drive?
[20:31] <dr_willis> qwebirc21119: hybrid iso format i beluve is the techy term.
[20:31] <zenx> rapha> try reinstalling the fglrx packages
[20:31] <EnderMB> Sorry to be a nuisance, but anyone have any idea why my fan isn't working?
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> !fsck
[20:32] <semitones> can gparted do fsck?
[20:32] <twirm> Chotaz`: you should definitely give installing ubuntu-desktop a shot
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> semitones, See the bots message
[20:32] <ThinkT510> semitones: yes
[20:32] <semitones> ThinkT510: thanks :)
[20:32] <zenx> EnderMB, I don't see wh it isn't working, i dont even think there is a driver for the fan. It is probably hardware controlled
[20:32] <Chotaz`> i'll try reinstalling ubuntu desktop, if that doesn't solve most issues ima go with a fresh install that'll probably be fast
[20:32] <Chotaz`> er
[20:32] <OnlyMAJ> Hi .i use ubuntu 12.4.i want to set password for thunderbird for every runnuing . soloution ?
[20:32] <zenx> does the cpu get hot or pc freeze?
[20:33] <d0min8r3> It's not working D:
[20:33] <twirm> Chotaz`: werd, good luck man. I hope you've learned your lesson about package managing while high ;P
[20:33] <EnderMB> zenx: The back of the machine gets pretty hot and it's very quiet, even when the cpu is high. Also, when I try to run acpi I get the message "no support for device type power_supply"
[20:33] <crackerjackz> !kde
[20:34] <d0min8r3> Can someone help me?
[20:34] <twirm> d0min8r3: what's up?
[20:34] <Chotaz`> twirm,  all I wanted was this crappy japanese game working, windows binaries so I needed a specific wine version for it xD
[20:34] <EnderMB> Perhaps I'm just being silly and Ubuntu is just quiet?
[20:34] <OnlyMAJ> Hi .i use ubuntu 12.4.i want to set password for thunderbird to ask it when i run thunderbird . soloution ?	
[20:34] <crackerjackz> so to install kde i just type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
 I would try the latest kernel
[20:34] <d0min8r3> I can't get the Netbook Remix
[20:34] <twirm> Chotaz`: did you grab Crossover while it was free this week?
[20:34] <semitones> Is there a way to do a file check on a Boot USB before I reboot?
[20:34] <OerHeks> d0min8r3, netbook remix is no more, just use the ubuntu iso.
[20:34] <Chotaz`> twirm, had no idea :(
[20:34] <bekks> d0min8r3: There is no netbook remix anymore.
[20:34] <crackerjackz> am i reading that right?
[20:35] <d0min8r3> I went to http://www.starkeith.net/coredump/2011/05/02/bringing-back-the-classic-netbook-remix-interface-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/  And when I install them it says they aren't found
[20:35] <Chotaz`> twikz, does it work that good anyways?
[20:35] <wyclif> still can't boot install ISO
[20:35] <mllie> wilee-nilee: any idea?
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> semitones, try man fsck in the terminal for info
[20:35] <d0min8r3> I know it doesn't come seperate, but there is a way to change the theme or whatever to get it.
[20:35] <bekks> d0min8r3: And 11.04 is not supported anymore, officially.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | mllie
[20:36] <twirm> Chotaz`: for newer windows apps, (Skyrim, MS Office 2010) it is definitely worth it
[20:36] <semitones> wilee-nilee: you know how when you boot ubuntu from USB, and you can check the install file integrity? Is there a way to do that without rebooting?
[20:36] <crackerjackz> its installing... ty to who ever made ubottu
[20:36] <twirm> Chotaz`: if the software is from before 2005, you're better off with stock WINE
[20:36] <mllie> wilee-nilee: yes, didn't you see my message above? I tried that one without any success
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> mllie, The link in the ots message will tell you how to insert the nomodeset in the kernel at boot.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> bots*
[20:36] <Chotaz`> twirm, still all the games that I used to play one wine 1.2.2 dont work on the newer versions of wine
[20:36] <semitones> Man... crossover was free... ? man
[20:37] <d0min8r3> So there is no possible way to make Ubuntu look like the netbook remix?
[20:37] <zenx> EnderMB, that's a desktop pc right? Honestly I wouldn't worry as long as the pc doesnt crash or if you can monitor temps to see. But the problem is probably due to dell custom hardware. Download the latest kernel and try it
[20:37] <mllie> wilee-nilee: still same problem. I get this error just before the screen goes black I think: http://askubuntu.com/questions/182371/12-04-1-error-after-upgrade
[20:37] <danielboston26> how do i boot into the command line on 12.10?
[20:37] <ThinkT510> !text | danielboston26
[20:37] <Chotaz`> danielboston26, ctrl+alt+f1
[20:37] <twirm> semitones: would you prefer a 64bit or 32bit?
[20:38] <d0min8r3> press CTRL+ALT+F2
[20:38] <EnderMB> zenx: Okay, I'll download the latest kernel. Thanks for the help!
[20:38] <twirm> Chotaz`: do you know if you're running 64/32?
[20:38] <d0min8r3> press CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> mllie, Is that your actual post>
[20:38] <Chotaz`> twirm 64bits
[20:38] <Sean21_> Hello
[20:38] <food> Can anyone help me with error "initramfs mount mounting aufs root failed No such device" please?
[20:38] <mllie> wilee-nilee: no, but same error message
[20:38] <crackerjackz> twirm: that all depends on the arcitechture of your CPU and the amount of memory in your computer, what kind of processor do you have and how much RAM do you have installed?
[20:39] <d0min8r3> Well, I'm going to go waste some time looking for a solution on the web.
[20:39] <Sean21_> Can anyone with me, I cant get dual boot to work with windows 7
[20:39] <crackerjackz> Sean21_: define not working
[20:39] <Sean21_> ok
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> mllie, I would go to the ubuntu forums and start a thread as well, the channel may or may not be your best help, I can't really help here myself, I thought this was just a black screen.
[20:40] <crackerjackz> what happens when you turn your computer on? do you get a grub menu?
[20:40] <rapha> zenx: did that, doesn't help. the desktop and nautilus show up, but unity itself won't start.
[20:40] <Sean21_> I came here the other night and I was told that I didnt install ubuntu correctly
[20:40] <mllie> wilee-nilee: well, how do I get into command line when booting then?
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> Sean21_, Give us the problem in the form of a question.
[20:40] <wyclif> d0min8r3: yup
[20:40] <Sean21_> So someone walked me through the installation, aftr it finsihed installing, computer boots up right into windows 7
[20:40] <twirm> msg Chotaz` would you like crossover?
 change to unity 2d, and run that additional driver installer
[20:40] <d0min8r3> ?
if that doesn't work you can try and remove every fglrx* packages, and try installing a driver from amd website, it must work then or the problem is something else than the drivers
[20:41] <zenx> you can choose unity2d at the login screen
[20:41] <crackerjackz> Sean21_: i know what you did.. you installed windows last didn't you? if you want to dual boot then generally you'd install windows first and linux 2nd
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> mllie, You can get to a command line from the recovery kernel in the grub menu, hold down the shift key at boot if grub is not showing, I believe there is a mount needed here I think the hD is read only in the recovery to begin with these days.
[20:42] <crackerjackz> when you install windows after installing linux it messes up grub
[20:42] <Sean21_> Windows 7 was already installed
[20:42] <crackerjackz> so you need to boot from a live cd and chroot into your linux install and fix grub
[20:42] <mllie> wilee-nilee: ok, boot recovery kernel and then? It stops at black screen there as well
[20:42] <Sean21_> What is "live cd", is it the samething as booting up from the usb flash drive I did?
[20:43] <qwebirc86523> dr_willis , ThinkT510 :  Thanks for the info.  I was able to confirm it here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-10-Will-Be-Distributed-As-Hybrid-CD-USB-images-206765.shtml .
[20:43] <food> aufs is not supported ? I just tried to customize the Kernel in Live CD
[20:43] <qwebirc86523> In case all current and future Ubuntu Live ISOs are "hybrid" ISOs, I would like to suggest that the 'dd' method of creating LiveUSB be added to the documentation at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick  since this seems to be an easy method of creating the LiveUSB and would also be preferred by those who like using the command line exclusively.
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> mllie, The only thing I know here is how to insert nomodeset in the kernel to possibly get a low graphics situation.
[20:43] <crackerjackz> Sean21_: just use the cd you installed ubuntu with but you could use any linux live cd i believe
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> mllie, This is beyond my help honestly. ;)
[20:44] <Sean21_> I installed unbuntu with usb
[20:44] <crackerjackz> !grub
[20:44] <food> I am testing the ISO on vmware workstation
[20:44] <crackerjackz> Sean21_: see the link ubottu spit out
[20:45] <Elise001> Ok I changed my c program's source code. It is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1333140/
[20:45] <angela-> msg nickserv identify 25122
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> angela-  change your password :-
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> :-)
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> Sean21_, Here is a link use the chroot to reload grub to the mbr. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing  The is also a bootrepiar app that will generate a bootinfo summary that makes this help much easier.
[20:45] <Sean21_> Ok i will try, Im a bit of noob with this stuff.
[20:45] <trism> Elise001: you still need to fix the curly quotes on the printf line, "" not “”
[20:46] <Elise001> Next I will put the output from compiling to pastebin.
[20:46] <zenx> lol
[20:46] <crackerjackz> Sean21_: you can do it, i have faith in you
[20:47] <Elise001> What is wrong with the curly quotes on the printf line, please?
[20:47] <Sean21_> Thanks, you boosted my confidence :)
[20:47] <trism> Elise001: the compiler doesn't like them
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Sean21_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video   bit friendlier
[20:47] <Elise001> Should I use 1 quote on each side instead of 2 quotes?
[20:48] <Sean21_> oh great,thnx
[20:48] <trism> Elise001: you need to use this character "
[20:48] <crackerjackz> Sean21_: your linux install is still there... you just messed up the bootloader is all
[20:48] <d0min8r3> Does anyone know of a good netbook OS? Besides Ubuntu Desktop.
[20:48] <crackerjackz> once you fix grub you'll have the choice to boot into linux or windows
[20:49] <xangua> d0min8r3: kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, you have plenty of flavors
[20:49] <Sean21_> Ok cool, if I decide to upgrade to windows 8, will I have to do anything?
[20:49] <crackerjackz> actually it wasn't anything you did, windows does that.. thats why you should install windows first and linux 2nd
[20:49] <d0min8r3> Anything besides ubuntu?
[20:49] <Sean21_> Windows was already installed
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> d0min8r3: Lubuntu uses fewer resources and will give a more responsive OS
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> d0min8r3: then its offtopic here, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:49] <crackerjackz> if you upgrade to windows 8 you may have to fix grub again.. but once you do it you'll be able to do it again
[20:50] <d0min8r3> #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:50] <Sean21_> Gotcha, however Windows was installed before I installed linux
[20:51] <crackerjackz> Sean21_: it only takes like 5 - 10 mins to fix grub if you knkow what you're doing... maybe 20 - 60 if you don't exactly know what you're doing.. but you have people here who will help you
[20:51] <OnlyMAJ> Hi .i use ubuntu 12.4.i want to set password for thunderbird for every runnuing .any soloution ?	
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> Sean21_, When I upgraded to W8 grub was not effected here it does not know how to overwrite the grub and put its bootloader in so keep an eye on the rebooots on the install.
[20:52] <VLanX> how is the effect that you get when pressing multiple times for example on firefox on the unity tab, you can see all the opened windows and then you can switch to the single window?
[20:52] <Sean21_> Ok hopefully it only takes 5-10 minutes.
[20:52] <Elise001> It compiled ok, first with gcc then with cc. Thank you.
[20:52] <Elise001> But won't run when I type in a.out.
[20:53] <trism> Elise001: ./a.out
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> OnlyMAJ, Is this so other users cannot open thunderbird
[20:53] <OnlyMAJ> wilee-nilee: yeah . just me !
[20:53] <Elise001> I will try that.
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> OnlyMAJ, I would set them up with their own accounts if it were me.
[20:54] <Elise001> trism: Thank you very much! It printed as expected.
[20:55] <OnlyMAJ> wilee-nilee: hmmm...
[20:55] <OnlyMAJ> i want to set password just for thunderbird ,nothing else !
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> Elise001: you may need to mark it executable too
[20:56] <knoppix> gk
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> OnlyMAJ, I see nothing on the web in linux for this, when you search with password all I see is passwords associated with email accounts. This does not mean it is not possible, but I would not hold your breath for an answer. ;)
[20:57] <episteme> ls
[20:58] <OnlyMAJ> wilee-nilee: tnx anyway ;D
[20:58] <OnlyMAJ> i search it again !
[21:02] <lipiss> asdf
[21:03] <david_> hola
[21:03] <david_> alguien sabe como me meto al xat en español???
[21:04] <jrib> david_: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:05] <c_smith_> Hi, I was here trying to get help with Ubuntu not detecting Windows on my laptop, I found the reason: UEFI
[21:05] <c_smith_> Windows didn't set up the proper partitions.
[21:07] <twirm> c_smith_, so you can now access your windows partition, or are you looking for more help?
[21:07] <c_smith_> twirm: I have been able to access windows from Windows itself, Ubuntu refuses to see it because of Windows not setting up the UEFI partition, something I know how to fix.
[21:08] <c_smith_> but it will take a good chunk of my time. >.<
[21:08] <c_smith_> being as it involves reinstalling Windows.
[21:09] <escott> c_smith_, install gdisk and tell us what the partition tables look like (gdisk will let you look at the msdos and gpt tables independently, no other tool i know of can do that)
[21:09] <twirm> c_smith_, oof. Congrats on figuring it out
[21:09]  * twirm high five
[21:09] <Anon_Linux> ae
[21:09] <Anon_Linux> pessoal
[21:09] <Anon_Linux> ]tudo bem
[21:09] <Anon_Linux> tudo bem
[21:09] <FloodBot1> Anon_Linux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <bekks> !br | Anon_Linux
[21:09] <Anon_Linux> oks
[21:10] <c_smith_> escott: I looked in Gparted and it complained about the UEFI partition not being there, either way wouldn't show anything.
[21:10] <chaospsychex> hi
[21:11] <guntbert> bekks: time for a short pm?
[21:11] <c_smith_> escott: I didn't even attempt an install since right then I realized what was going on and am gonna have to reinstall.
[21:11] <escott> c_smith_, i installed win7 on a uefi system in what i thought was uefi mode, but windows did an msdos partition setup. without the efi partition it should not be bootable so you might actually have an msdos system with an invalid gpt table
[21:11] <bekks> guntbert: Sure.
[21:11] <wyclif> IOW to get a SCSI CDROM to boot the installation media, do I need to change the boot order in the regular system BIOS or in the SCSI BIOS?
[21:11] <escott> c_smith_, in either case i would install gdisk to figure out what you do have as your tables
[21:11] <basketballstar> can i put a to do list and a calender on my ubuntu 12.10 desktop
[21:11] <c_smith_> escott: it's bootable, but has MSDOS partitioning. that's what Gparted was complaining about.
[21:12] <c_smith_> but I just popped in to say that.
[21:12] <c_smith_> I have several things I can try to fix this.
[21:12] <c_smith_> figured you all should know since somebody else might run into this.
[21:13] <angela-> hi war can i fint free mp3 downloads/
[21:13] <chaospsychex> 0.o
[21:13] <wyclif> I have a PC that I want to install Ubuntu on that has a SCSI card (an Adaptec 29160). The CDROM is device #3. I've burned an Ubuntu ISO and I can't get the install media to boot. I've changed the boot order in the BIOS to "SCSI" and in the SCSI BIOS edited the boot order to boot from device #3 (the CDROM). Yet, I still cannot get the ISO to boot from the CDROM. Any ideas?
[21:14] <chaospsychex> wyclif: verify that the drive will boot other install media first-cd's
[21:14] <xangua> angela-: jamendo.com has free/copyleft music
[21:14] <wyclif> chaospsychex: I tried that, but it will not boot any installation media at this point
[21:14] <angela-> thnanks
[21:15] <chaospsychex> wyclif: does the drive read cd's once booted ?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> wyclif: is the SCSI card bootable?
[21:16] <angela-> but xangua  how to download thare mp3`s?
[21:16] <wyclif> chaospsychex: I get the error: DISK BOOT ERROR. INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS "ENTER".
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> wyclif: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[21:16] <wyclif> chaospsychex: only music CDs, not data
[21:17] <wyclif> ActionParsnip: yes, I did the standard verify checksum checks upon burning the ubuntu .iso
[21:18] <wyclif> ActionParsnip: yes, the SCSI functionality works and I can access the SCSI bios as well
[21:19] <chaospsychex> wyclif: in what os does it read only music cd's and not data cd's ?
[21:19] <escott> wyclif, does the scsi bios support booting cds? have you been able to boot any other cds?
[21:20] <wyclif> chaospsychex: Jaunty is installed on the HDD, but because Jaunty is no longer supported, I cannot update over the network any longer
[21:20] <escott> !eol
[21:20] <Kinder-Pingvi> короче да.. на arial все-таки остановился... на легком сглаживании и межстрочке RGB.. очень сочно смотрится
[21:21] <escott> !ru | Kinder-Pingvi
[21:21] <chaospsychex> wyclif: you said you were able to access the scsi bios, did you see any config settings for booting from an optical drive ?
[21:21] <wyclif> escott: the SCSI BIOS allows you to set boot order on the SCSI card. The CDROM is device #3. When I edit the boot order in the SCSI BIOS to boot the CD first, it won't boot and gives me the DISK BOOT FAILURE error
[21:22] <chaospsychex> wyclif: what is device #1 and #2 ?
[21:22] <wyclif> chaospsychex: the options in the SCSI BIOS allow you to change the boot order by device. In this case, the CDROM is device #3, so that is what I set it to.
[21:23] <wyclif> chaospsychex: the only devices in the chain are the HDD and the CDROM. The HDD is device 0, the CDROM device 3
[21:23] <Linkandzelda> How would I go about installing a GTK theme? I want to replace the default Ambiance theme with another GTK2 theme I downloaded.
[21:23] <escott> wyclif, two things (a) look at the link above https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades because you can still do a release-upgrade. (b) although the bios may let you put the device as bootable that doesn't necessarily mean that the image you try to boot will understand how to boot when the cd is in a scsi bios (basically the cd has its own bootloader which needs to find the cd again... so the scsi bios needs to fake things so that
[21:23] <escott> the cd is accessible to the limited cd bootloader to make it look like the cd is disk 1
[21:24] <ihp> My apt-get is stuck in a state where it cant install anything, should i reinstall ubuntu?
[21:24] <escott> wyclif, so the question for (b) is "have you ever been able to boot a cd with your scsi card?"
[21:24] <escott> ihp, details please. what messages does apt-get give you?
[21:24] <guntbert> ihp: no, how did it get that way?
[21:25] <dsprc> ihp: what errors are you getting? how is it "stuck" exactly?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda: you will need a GTK3 theme, there are PPAs with them or you can use gnome-look.org
[21:26] <Linkandzelda> ActionParsnip: Thanks, also how would I go about enabling Global menu with this gnome-panel I got yesterday? Thanks
[21:26] <chaospsychex> wyclif: why don't try booting from a live usb ? does your system support booting from usb ?
[21:26] <ihp> guntbert, escott: dont have the comp here. i installed a driver for my screen. failed via apt-get so did it manually and now it cant finish installing anything anymore
[21:26] <wyclif> escott: yes, in fact I installed Jaunty ages ago from the same CDROM drive with no issues, that's what's so odd
[21:26] <wyclif> chaospsychex: that would be a good solution if I had USB on this box :(
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda: no idea, not something I use. I know XFCE has a global maneu but not sure if Gnome panel has one
[21:27] <escott> wyclif, then either (a) the cd image has been changed so that it no longer works, or (b) you downloaded a bad image/burned a bad image
[21:27] <Linkandzelda> ActionParsnip: I see, maybe I can live without it then.
[21:27] <guntbert> ihp: thats difficult for helpers - please come again when you have access to your system
[21:27] <chaospsychex> wyclif: how did you burn the img ?
[21:27] <chaospsychex> wyclif: if you can't access the files on cd's then something is wrong with the drive
[21:28] <wyclif> escott: chaospsychex: I burned the .iso on a MBP, then used "verify" to check the data in Disk Utility.
[21:28] <chaospsychex> wyclif: how big is your HDD ?
[21:28] <wyclif> escott: I was careful to do the checks upon burning the .iso, doing everything I could to ensure that it was a good copy
[21:28] <wyclif> chaospsychex: 17GB
[21:29] <chaospsychex> wyclif: if i was you i would run the .iso from the hdd
[21:29] <escott> wyclif, did you burn as iso? was it a single burn (cd-r style) or might you have done a multisession (cd-rw style) burn by mistake
[21:30] <chaospsychex> wyclif: you can boot from the .iso, with the .iso on a seperate partition, using grub
[21:30] <wyclif> escott: good question. I downloaded the .iso directly from Ubuntu.com. Then I copied the .iso to Disk Utility and burned it, and checked "Verify" to do the data checks, &c.
[21:31] <L3top> wyclif: did you check the md5sum?
[21:31] <chaospsychex> wyclif: extract the contents of the .iso to a 1gb partition and boot from it using grub. do you have grub installed as a bootloader on your system ?
[21:31] <wyclif> chaospsychex: yes, I have GRUB.
[21:32] <wyclif> chaospsychex: in order to do that, do I need to resize partitions, &c?
[21:32] <L3top> wyclif: of the iso... the verify only checks that the burn matches the image. If that base image is corrupt it will still verify.
[21:32] <dr_willis> grub can boot some iso files.  no need to extract. ;-)
[21:32] <chaospsychex> wyclif: well that would be a problem if you have no way to boot anything.....nvm
[21:32] <wyclif> L3top: but I copied the .iso directly from ubuntu.com
[21:32] <pawiecki> hi :) I installed Ubuntu 12.10 from minimal.iso and after successful installation i downloaded xubuntu-desktop. Everything works good, but the NM icon is gray, and it shows no active wired connections, while i'm obviously using one :) An ideas what might be the problem?
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> wyclif, You have grub legacy or grub 2
[21:33] <L3top> wyclif: again, unless you check the md5sum, you will not know whether or not you have a clean image.
[21:33] <L3top> !md5sum
[21:33] <basketballstar> can you put a calender on the desktop
[21:33]  * chaospsychex tapes calender to basketballstar's desktop!
[21:33] <wyclif> wilee-nilee: legacy GRUB (0.97 to be specific)
[21:33] <zykotick9> pawiecki: verify you don't have network settings for you wireless in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:34] <escott> wyclif, also (i dont know what this verify actually does perhaps L3top knows) the verify could just be confirming that you burned a the iso image file onto the cd correctly not that you burned the iso correctly
[21:34] <Linkandzelda> seems I have a problem with Nautilis. its not showing new files that recently downloaded, but they are there in the downloads folder I just cant see them
[21:34] <escott> wyclif, there are instructions on ubuntu.com that will take you step by step through the process of burning a cd correctly on a macbook.
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> wyclif, I thought so if you get to doing the md5sum and need to boot from grub makes sure it is you announce the grub legacy for help here.
[21:35] <escott> pawiecki, did you install network manager?
[21:35] <wyclif> does anybody here know how a md5sum check on a MBP with their Disk Utility? Is that possible?
[21:35] <wyclif> wilee-nilee: gotcha
[21:35] <escott> wyclif, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/burn-a-dvd-on-mac-osx
[21:36] <escott> wyclif, if you follow the above then the burn should be good. so you just need to open a terminal and type md5sum /path/to/ubuntu.iso
[21:37] <pawiecki> zykotick: the settings are as follows: "# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
[21:37] <pawiecki> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
[21:37] <pawiecki> # The loopback network interface
[21:37] <pawiecki> auto lo
[21:37] <pawiecki> iface lo inet loopback
[21:37] <pawiecki> # The primary network interface
[21:37] <FloodBot1> pawiecki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:37] <wyclif> escott: I followed those exact directions to the letter, in fact :(
[21:38] <pawiecki> ahh sry for flood
[21:38] <marcappuccino> pawiecki: are you looking to set a static IP?
[21:38] <escott> pawiecki, did you actually install network-manager. i dont think it would get pulled in via xubuntu-desktop
[21:38] <marcappuccino> I just entered sorry
[21:38] <zykotick9> pawiecki: you should see both "/msg ubottu tab" as well as "/msg ubottu paste"
[21:38] <wyclif> escott: so in this case the correct path would be /dev/cdrom ???
[21:39] <escott> wyclif, you could do that (with the ubuntu disk inserted). or it would /users/USERNAME/???/Downloads/ubuntu-blah-blah.iso or something like that
[21:41] <pawiecki> i have dynamic IP. How to tell if i have NM installed? There's an icon just like in stock Ubuntu, when i click it i can see wireless network, but none wired - which i'm using to connect to internet right now :)
[21:41] <Linkandzelda> ActionParsnip: any idea about this, whenver I use the archive extractor from nautilis the folder doesnt show, until i restart it?
[21:41] <L3top> wyclif: and where you downloaded the image, there will be an md5sum to compare. If they are the same, then we can proceed.
[21:41] <escott> pawiecki, dpkg -l "*network*" and see if network-manager is listed with "ii" to the left
[21:42] <wyclif> L3top: yes I was just looking at the md5sum.txt
[21:42] <badloop> is it possible to have rsyslog forward to a remote host outside the local network?
[21:42] <badloop> can't seem to get it to do anything...
[21:43] <escott> Linkandzelda, what if you ctrl-R to reload the folder
[21:44] <wyclif> chaospsychex: escott: L3top: thanks for the help, I will try again and make sure md5sum is good
[21:44] <jcolson> Can anyone point me to documentation describing how to disable the grouping of windows in the window switcher (12.10)?
[21:44] <Linkandzelda> escott: that works, but its not exactly ideal. apparently this "bug" has been around since 9.10
[21:45] <escott> Linkandzelda, does it work properly if you just "touch" a file in that folder? perhaps you modified your kernel and it doesnt support inotify events?
[21:46] <escott> badloop, in what way is it not working? perhaps you have a firewall or NAT on the other end?
[21:46] <Linkandzelda> escott: all I've done is install some nautilis extras like dropbox and gnome-sushi, and im not using unity I'm using gnome-panel.
[21:46] <pawiecki> network-manager & network-manager-gnome installed
[21:46] <Norbertoss> Hi, there !
[21:47] <Norbertoss> I just have some problem to understand(?) linking
[21:47] <escott> Linkandzelda, if you open up a folder and in a terminal run "touch /path/to/folder/test.txt" does it create the empty file "test.txt" and show it without prompting?
[21:47] <Norbertoss> I think that "-f" switch doesn't work in "ln"
[21:47] <badloop> escott: i've monitored udp traffic on the sending end, and it doesn't seem to be generating any packets when i create a test log entry
[21:48] <Norbertoss> "-f" doesn't want to overwrite an existing directory with the same name nor an existing link.
[21:48] <jcolson> badloop, have you tried using the "@<hostname>" notation in the config file? It should route anywhere assuming your system is routing properly?
[21:48] <badloop> oh wait.. there it goes
[21:48] <badloop> hmmmmmm
[21:48] <Linkandzelda> escott: I'll try it
[21:48] <L3top> wyclif: if I were you, what I would do is, locate the zsync link where you downloaded the iso... then sudo apt-get install zsync  then just type zsync http://path/to/iso.zsync       this will basically "fix" the iso. It will not tell you it is done till the md5sums match... and you will only overwrite the corrupt parts of the image. Much faster.
[21:48] <tsimpson> Norbertoss: it will overwrite an existing link, but not a directory
[21:49] <pawiecki> !pastebin
[21:49] <L3top> wyclif: launch from folder where ubuntu.iso exists.
[21:49] <pawiecki> !pastebinit
[21:49] <escott> badloop, my first suspicion would be that you need to open port 431? on the remote NAT because you have inbound traffic that is coming from outside your subnet. (assuming you have a NAT)
[21:49] <Linkandzelda> escott: I had the Downloads folder opened and ran "touch Downloads/test.txt" and the file was not shown. I do ctrl + r and it shows
[21:49] <pawiecki> is there a sort of man or help here?
[21:49] <badloop> escott: 431? udp syslog is 514...
[21:49] <wyclif> L3top: I will have to see if that utility is available as part of the standard UNIX tools on a MBP, where I burned it.
[21:50] <L3top> wyclif: understood. Should be I would think... it is just a different rsync...
[21:50] <escott> badloop, wasn't sure what port it was... some example listed 431
[21:50] <escott> Linkandzelda, that would suggest inotify isn't working properly on your system
[21:51] <dsprc> wyclif: if not just pull it in from the macports collection
[21:51] <wyclif> L3top: in any case, I am now installing zsync here...
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> pawiecki, You might try as well at #xubuntu
[21:52] <escott> Linkandzelda, there is a command line application "inotifywatch" in the inotify-tools package. might help you verify if inotify is/is not working on your system
[21:52] <wyclif> dsprc: thanks, will look for it
[21:52] <Norbertoss> tsimpson: Strange, but it doesn't want to overwrite a link. :( I tried it under another distro, but I thought it is distro-independent
[21:52] <L3top> wyclif: I love zsync. We pump out an iso almost daily... so I just rename the old build to the new builds name, and they start about 70% done. On my bandwidth, and the size of the dvd isos that is tremendous.
[21:53] <Linkandzelda> escott: I'll install that and find out then
[21:53] <wyclif> L3top: interesting; I've never heard of it before, only familiar with rsync :)
[21:54] <Norbertoss> tsimpson: Some folks in another IRC channel told me that maybe busybox in my distro is too old to support "-f". Is it possible ?
[21:54] <tsimpson> Norbertoss: no, we don't use busybox
[21:54] <escott> Norbertoss, busybox is not the standard ln. don't use busybox and expect it to act like gnu utils
[21:54] <pawiecki> escott, i have both network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed. The /etc/network/interfaces looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1333301/
[21:55] <L3top> wyclif: I can actually build my own isos from a dd image naming them the latest build image name, they start out at about 64%
[21:55] <Norbertoss> escott: I'm afraid, I don't know anything about it. :S
[21:55] <wyclif> L3top: that sounds rather useful
[21:56] <wyclif> L3top: although I don't often burn iso's
[21:56] <escott> pawiecki, im afraid i dont know much about xubuntu
[21:56] <tsimpson> Norbertoss: what exactly are you trying to do that's failing?
[21:56] <pawiecki> escott, ok, no problem, thx for help so far :)
[21:56] <Linkandzelda> escott: http://pastebin.com/6JuxEe2d
[21:57] <Linkandzelda> escott: this is what happens when I run the tool
[21:58] <escott> Linkandzelda, can you verify the pastebin
[22:01] <Linkandzelda> escott: oops, fail much lol
[22:01] <ceccolo> what is this silence
[22:02] <Linkandzelda> escott: http://pastebin.com/yVUQiw53 thats more like it
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> ceccolo, You have not posted anything.
[22:03] <ceccolo> I have to read a guide
[22:04] <escott> Linkandzelda, so there is your problem. you could run something like "echo #### > sudo tee /proc/blah/blah" to increase that limit. better would be to figure out what application is using all your inotify watches
[22:04] <L3top> ceccolo: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:04] <Linkandzelda> escott: I bet its dropbox lol
[22:05] <Norbertoss> escott: First, I create a link: ln -sfv /foo /root/othername. It succeeds. I try to REPEAT this. It won't ovewrite the destination, it creates a link to "/foo" in "/root/othername" (result: "/root/othername/foo") It won't replace the link "/root/othername" with "/foo2" neither. :( I hope, you understood :S
[22:05] <gordonjcp> aha
[22:05] <ceccolo> no, I'm sorry, first time
[22:05] <gordonjcp> Linkandzelda: running out of inotify?
[22:05] <escott> Linkandzelda, basically inotify is a kernel facility to allow applications to monitor directories and files for changes. but it can be abused in a multi-user system and slow down the system so they cap each user at some number listed in that /proc file
[22:05] <gordonjcp> there's a thing that causes that
[22:05] <gordonjcp> it's lying
[22:05] <gordonjcp> there are *loads* of inotify handles available
[22:05] <Linkandzelda> escott: the number listed in the file is 8132.... that sounds pretty high? lol
[22:06] <escott> Linkandzelda, yeah but if you had thousands of files in dropbox folders and dropbox was watching each and every one...
[22:06] <Linkandzelda> escott: oh, now that makes sense when I have over 40,000 lol
[22:07] <escott> Norbertoss, i think you need " -n, --no-dereference        treat destination that is a symlink to a directory as if it were a normal file"
[22:10] <Norbertoss> escott: Damn, you are a genius ... er ... thank you VERY much. it has solved my problem. :P
[22:10] <escott> Linkandzelda, a better solution is for dropbox to only monitor folders not files, that leaves the possibility that an open file is not updated (because you append to the end of it) but these days thats pretty rare, often things will overwrite or replace a file with a new one which would trigger an inotify event on the directory
[22:10] <Linkandzelda> ActionParsnip: I have a GTK3 theme but have no Idea how to install it. Ive tried to install it using ubuntu tweak but i always get "invalid theme file"
[22:11] <escott> Norbertoss, do be careful increasing that limit in /proc. those watches can be expensive in both memory and cpu
[22:11] <Linkandzelda> escott: i guess, but theres no way i could change dropbox to do that?
[22:11] <escott> Linkandzelda, there might be some setting somewhere (or file a bug with them)
[22:11] <escott> Linkandzelda, they should not be taking out thousands of watches (assuming that it is there fault which you should confirm)
[22:12] <tyfaust> How do you copy (with cp) multiple folders to a new location at once? (example 'cp -rv /media/hdd1/folder1+folder2 /media/hdd2/') Not sure how you can do more than one folder in the first string of copy/cp. Any advice or suggestions are welcome.
[22:12] <escott> tyfaust, cp 1 2 3 4 5 /target
[22:12] <Norbertoss> escott: What are "watches" ? :S What kind of "limit" ? :S Sorry, I don't understand :(
[22:13] <escott> Norbertoss, sorry meant those last two for Linkandzelda
[22:13] <tyfaust> escott so just the last one is always the destination for all other folders/locations listed?
[22:13] <Norbertoss> escott: No problem. Thanks for your kindly help. :)))
[22:13] <escott> tyfaust, yes
[22:13] <Linkandzelda> escott: I remember I took this picture when starting dropbox https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2873587/Screenshot%20from%202012-11-04%2019%3A15%3A36.png
[22:14] <tyfaust> escott, thanks for your help! I will give it a try.
[22:14] <jayco> quit
[22:14] <escott> Linkandzelda, 404ed
[22:14] <Linkandzelda> escott: becuase dropbox didnt upload it like it should of... lol
[22:17] <GRRR3> hey guys, i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my dell laptop. i initially installed with an ALT install disk but after install ubuntu just froze after BIOS, wouldn't boot, and showed a blank screen. you guys told me to get a live cd, but my dvd burner is broken and i cannot burn a disk. i'm wondering if USB would work?
[22:17] <s0up> after updating ubuntu my menu's look like http://phota.me/i1ju.png .. any ideas?
[22:17] <Linkandzelda> escott: should be up now
[22:17] <escott> GRRR3, did you ever see the bootloader?
[22:17] <GRRR3> didn't see grub
[22:18] <GRRR3> just the dell bios stuff adn then it asked me if i wanted to boot from harddisk whcih i did.. then it froze
[22:18] <GRRR3> should i maybe try installing without grub?
[22:19] <GRRR3> or should i try making an ubuntu USB? is USB a live version of ubuntu?
[22:19] <escott> Linkandzelda, WOW. my already low opinion of dropbox has been lowered even further. i would email dropbox and politely ask them to "sudo rm -rf /"
[22:20] <Linkandzelda> escott: LOL, they truly are lazy with this one... too bad I have to use DB for other stuff
[22:20] <GRRR3> what do you guys reckon? i really wanna get ubuntu on this laptop
[22:20] <escott> GRRR3, the "live" system is part of the normal install image. it can be a cd or a usb. it is NOT on the alt image
[22:21] <Norbertoss> GRRR3: There is two another methods to get a new OS. Anyway, you could try to install another kind of GRUB - it can be done with Puppy Linux :) But I don't want to confuse you ;)
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> GRRR3: what video chip do you use?
[22:21] <GRRR3> not sur eabout video chip
[22:21] <badloop> ahhhh… got it.. my router was only forwarding TCP traffic
[22:21] <badloop> :-P
[22:21] <GRRR3> second hand laptop, no idea of the specs
[22:21] <escott> GRRR3, the fact that you went for the alt install disk suggests something is off with your hardware making the install harder but you havent indicated what that might have been
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> GRRR3: does the system have a make and model
[22:21] <escott> badloop, cool
[22:22] <GRRR3> i went for the ALT disk because i always install with LVM encryption
[22:22] <GRRR3> its a del inspiron 1501
[22:22] <badloop> the pains of using a compact, store bought router… no tcpdump… :-P
[22:22] <badloop> even with it being an rt-n66u …
[22:22] <adaminsull> Hi
[22:22] <GRRR3> the only options i have are ALT cd's which are already burned (i cannot burn any disks atm), or to use USB...
[22:22] <adaminsull> When using sudo I get this
[22:23] <adaminsull> ircd is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[22:23] <escott> adaminsull, why is your username ircd?
[22:23] <GRRR3> i can also plug in to the internet, can i install it over the internet somehow?
[22:23] <GRRR3> directly
[22:23] <adaminsull> escott: Because i'm using it not as root
[22:23] <adaminsull> I'm making my irc server so used ircd
[22:23] <Norbertoss> GRRR3: Do you have an operating system what is supported by VirtualBox ? There is a method to transfer virtual machine to a real machine
[22:23] <escott> adaminsull, thats a really odd choice
[22:24] <adaminsull> escott: You cannot do unrealircd as root
[22:24] <FireStorms> Hey can I make Ubuntu (10.04) launch a program automatically when inactive for xx.xx.xx?
[22:24] <GRRR3> i have another laptop but unfortunately i cannot run both laptops at the same time as their batteries are both stuffed and i have to have them plugged in, and i only have one cord atm
[22:24] <escott> adaminsull, you should have a normal username "adam" or whatever you want, and then isntall unrealircd which should create an ircd account under which it will run
[22:24] <GRRR3> if that is the only option i have, i can go out and purchase a new power cord i guess
[22:24] <adaminsull> escott: Well how do I add to sudoers file
[22:24] <GRRR3> the other laptop runs ubuntu and has virtualbox installed
[22:25] <escott> adaminsull, there are lots of accounts *d that should have NO ACCESS to the system. whose sole purpose is to run various daemons
[22:25] <adaminsull> How do I give it access?
[22:25] <escott> adaminsull, if you configure your sudoers file to allow a *d account to sudo then you are doing it wrong
[22:25] <GRRR3> i really don't wanna go back to windows :(
[22:25] <adaminsull> escott: I havent set it up
[22:25] <adaminsull> How can I
[22:26] <Norbertoss> FireStorms: I think it is can be done via (handwritten) scripts. xD So it would be a difficult work to create. :D
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> GRRR3: seems to be an ATi Radeon Xpress1150
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> GRRR3: try the boot option: nomodeset
[22:27] <escott> adaminsull, when you install set your username as "adam" (or whatever you would use on your desktop) you will use "adam" to administer the system and "adam" will be able to sudo. "adam" will install unrealircd and unrealircd should create an ircd account which is locked (preventing anyone from using it)
[22:27] <Linkandzelda> does anyone know why the process signond is using 100% cpu?
[22:27] <GRRR3> only boot option i have are boot from harddisk, boot from cd, boot from usb
[22:27] <adaminsull> escott: I don't understand unix so can u just tell me how to allow it access?
[22:27] <escott> adaminsull, no i will not. because what you are proposing is wrong
[22:28] <escott> GRRR3, the LVM encryption is probably the problem here
[22:28] <adaminsull> I want my ircd user to be able to use sudo
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | GRRR3
[22:28] <escott> GRRR3, did you install grub and /boot to some partition outside of the LVM encryption?
[22:28] <GRRR3> grub is installed, but doesn't seem to load or give me the option to load it
[22:28] <adaminsull> escott: I need to give it permission to use sudo but how?
[22:28] <GRRR3> escott, do you think if i reinstall without LVM it might work out??
[22:29] <Linkandzelda> and I also seem to have a problem with my network being unstable and slow. http://uppix.net/8/f/5/80e7d396f16f297d50a20e0701319.png
[22:29] <GRRR3> actionparsnip, please explain what you mean by that? i don't have access to grub, is that a grub command or something?
[22:29] <SunMoonStar> Hi friends. Hope I can get help about this. I want to have dual boot with Windows. I read one recommendation on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace that I should make a sharing partition in ntfs to share with Windows and use that instead of sharing directly into Windows partition because files can get overridden by hibernation? How does that work? I see recommendations like this page that I can just use a utility like here http://w
[22:30] <escott> adaminsull, im not answering that question. i would suggest you ask in #backtrack-linux they will happily help you set that up and compromise your system at the same time
[22:30] <adaminsull> I just need help
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, This an apple computer?
[22:31] <GRRR3> would installing without the splash scrfeen work? it might be the splash screen doing it. is there an option to do that?
[22:31] <escott> GRRR3, i dont know much about lvm+encryption, but presumably grub needs to find the lvm modules and perhaps even load a kernel to be able to prompt you for the encryption password. so grub and maybe /boot needs to be outside the lvm partitions
[22:31] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: no I have Windows
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, The shared NTFS is just another NTFS partition.
[22:32] <adaminsull> escott: How do I read main
[22:32] <adaminsull> mail
[22:32] <GRRR3> i'm not sure what you mean by "grub needs to be outside the LVM"... but let me ask you, should i reinstall without LVM... and/or should i reinstall and not install GRUB along with it?
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, Do you a space for another partition?
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> have*
[22:33] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: Yes I think so. I have 1 TB hard drive, and I want to give each OS about 450, and put maybe 100 on the partition?
[22:33] <GRRR3> i'm perfectly happy to go without LVM if it'll work...
[22:33] <escott> GRRR3, it takes a potential problem off the table
[22:34] <GRRR3> i'll give it a shot
[22:34] <GRRR3> thanks for your help, appreciated
[22:34] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: but I wanted to know if it makes sense to use a partition if I can conveniently use a utility
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, Cool you want to be aware of types of partitions IE primary or logical and limitations on a single HD is all.
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, What utility?
[22:35] <SunMoonStar> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2265543,00.asp
[22:35] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: one of those?
[22:35] <Eagleman> It looks like port 25 is blocked: (  http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL1526778  )  So i am unable to use port 25 for mail submissions?
[22:35] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: i will try to google the words you mentioned
[22:35] <adaminsull> It says You have new mail but how do I read it?
[22:36] <SunMoonStar> i am running ubuntu on only 10gb via a windows installer and someone told me it's not a real partition, so i want to set ubuntu up for real because i like it more
[22:36] <escott> SunMoonStar, thats WUBI and a real partition will be faster. the other direction you could go is to use virtualbox
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, Did you notice this date on this link.  February 8, 2008
[22:36] <wilee-nilee>   A shared ntfs is the general concensus.
[22:36] <Benyamin90> morning from indonesia
[22:36] <Benyamin90> anyone know why flash player only untill ver 11.2 for linux?
[22:37] <neure> hi
[22:37] <OerHeks> Eagleman, yes, some providers block 1-1024, contact your provider.
[22:37] <MK`> can I upgrade Ubuntu while things like xchat are still running, only restarting when it's done?
[22:37] <MK`> or should I close everything?
[22:37] <gordonjcp> MK`: yes
[22:37] <yerioduc> ?
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, With ubuntu you have ubuntu one 5 free gigs of storage, you can have ubuntu one in windows as well, this is cloud computing.
[22:37] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: what sort of limitations were you referring to regarding a single HD
[22:37] <gordonjcp> MK`: firefox will get its knickers in a twist
[22:37] <escott> MK`, upgrading? meaning what 11.10-12.04 upgrading or just security updateS?
[22:37] <mih1406> In lightDM what does greeter means? does it mean a theme?
[22:38] <Benyamin90> no
[22:38] <MK`> Upgrading. I'm on 11.04 and it just told me I need to upgrade :P didn't realize it'd been so long
[22:38] <Benyamin90> there's ver 11.4 but only mac and win32
[22:38] <escott> mih1406, lightDM is a greeter (the graphical application that asks you for your password)
[22:38] <Benyamin90> hmm
[22:38] <Benyamin90> i must take a bath
[22:38] <escott> MK`, but what do you mean by "upgrading" what is it asking you to do
[22:39] <MK`> 11.04 -> 11.10
[22:39] <neure> i am looking for terminal which can do paste with shift-insert
[22:39] <Norbertoss> Benyamin90: Adobe stopped to develpo under Linux
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, With a standard msdos setup not a uefi or gpt 4 primaries or 3 primaries and a extended with logicals inside the extended can have a lot of partitions including the shared ntfs.
[22:39] <neure> what terminal could do that?
[22:39] <Norbertoss> But Flash will die, soon
[22:39] <Benyamin90> hmm, why?
[22:39] <Benyamin90> because nothing they get
[22:39] <Benyamin90> ?
[22:39] <escott> MK`, in that case maybe not. you can often start and application during the release-upgrade and provided you dont close it it will still work, but not always
[22:39] <MK`> alright
[22:39] <Norbertoss> Er it is not about money, it is about revolution
[22:39] <adaminsull> escott: Can I read main?
[22:39] <Benyamin90> yeah after coming html5
[22:39] <adaminsull> mail*
[22:39] <basketballstar> can i put a to do list on my desktop
[22:39] <Benyamin90> hei btw anyone like tears of steel?
[22:40] <Norbertoss> Flash is dying because HTML5 will do the job instead of it
[22:40] <mih1406> escott, what are other greeters out there?
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, YOu might install gparted in the ubuntu and take a screenshot using the prtsc key and image bin it to show us the HD as it is now.
[22:40] <escott> mih1406, gdm, kdm, xdm
[22:40] <Benyamin90> thx all
[22:40] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: I'll have to research to understand that. Ok thanks a lot for the help. ; OK i will install gparted and do that now. brb
[22:40] <escott> mih1406, also known as "display managers" this "greeter" terminology is a new "ubuntu" term
[22:41] <Linkandzelda> escott: any idea how to install themes from gnome-look in 12.10? xD
[22:42] <escott> Linkandzelda, no
[22:42] <FireStorms> I want to launch Transmission (torrent client) when my system is Idle similar to how the screensaver operates. Is there a script for this?
[22:42] <Linkandzelda> escott: damn
[22:43] <Norbertoss> FireStorms: maybe, it is hidden somewhere in the world of Internet. xD Out of curiousity, I don't think so. :S
[22:44] <peterrooney> why do people feel the need to introduce new, confusing terminology for things with well established names?
[22:44] <basketballstar> can i make my desktop wallpaper a calender that changes by month
[22:44] <chaospsychex> FireStorms: you could always delve into BASH-Scripting and write the script yourself. Would be an exercise into the unknown!
[22:45] <chaospsychex> ...or I could write the script for the cost of a donut/coffee!
[22:45] <chaospsychex> ;-p
[22:45] <ikonia> basketballstar: gnome doesn't have a "change every month" function, but there maybe a gnome applet, or easier a cron job
[22:45] <FireStorms> If I could bash script I'd build the program myself. I'd log a mouse movement or a key stroke with a timestamp. Then check the inactivity between the last "user action"
[22:45] <basketballstar> what about default
[22:45] <ikonia> basketballstar: no
[22:45] <chaospsychex> FireStorms: python could even be used to implement something like that through the OS module
[22:45] <basketballstar> can i get a calender as my wallpaper that i can put event on
[22:45] <escott> FireStorms, I would just generate the files, and then in bash you run the gsettings command to set the wallpaper on every login.
[22:45] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: hey. here you go http://imagebin.org/234659
[22:46]  * chaospsychex tapes calender on basketballstar's desktop, then hands him a sharpie!
[22:46] <escott> FireStorms, sorry not you
[22:46] <ikonia> basketballstar: no
[22:46] <ikonia> chaospsychex: help/do not help, but the pointless comments need to stop please.
[22:46] <jrib> FireStorms: here is one stupid way: put something in cron that checks if the screensaver is active
[22:47] <chaospsychex> ikonia: acknowledged
[22:47] <ikonia> chaospsychex: thank you
[22:47] <escott> jrib, FireStorms problem with putting this in cron is it would need xauthority acces
[22:47] <basketballstar> wait canty i just make my google calender my wallpaper
[22:47] <chipotle> is 12.10 stable? i mainly use debian stable (squeeze and lenny) but i want php-fpm and i dont' want to compile from source, so i was considering 12.10 but i need to know if it's truly stable...
[22:47] <ikonia> basketballstar: because that's an application/website, a wallpaper is an image
[22:48] <FireStorms> jrib nice idea, I will try
[22:48] <Norbertoss> basketballstar: What you want is as complicated as it seems to be simple.
[22:49] <escott> basketballstar, http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BukC833v8bIJ:lifehacker.com/5610502/embed-google-calendar-on-your-linux-desktop+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=ubuntu
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: officially, yes
[22:49] <bsmith0931> i have a very old palm m130, i want to read text files on it, what encodings do i need
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, Cool so you have not installed ubuntu yet. I would shrink the windows using it app called disk manager then reboot it fro it to run the auto chkdsk to be sure it is okay. Then when you install the ubuntu in the space left as unallocated make a extnded partition in that space for the ubuntu a shared ntfs, and the swap partition. The key here is to estimate the size of that extended to con
[22:49] <wilee-nilee>  tain all of these partitions when you shrink the windows partition.
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> its*
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: win7 can also shrink its own partitions :)
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, That is what I said to use. ;)
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: yeah seen now :)
[22:50] <dsprc> bsmith0931: they have their own format. but you can use jpilot and its utilities to send and recieve palmdoc files from the device
[22:51] <bsmith0931> jpilot isnt working
[22:51] <bsmith0931> i have the cradle and the usb connection to the computer
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, I putting a virtual linux partitioner on my christmas list. ;)
[22:51] <dsprc> bsmith0931: are you able to hotsync the device?
[22:51] <bsmith0931> yes but only on windows
[22:52] <bsmith0931> im on ubuntu lucid
[22:52] <jrib> FireStorms: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#watch though xscreensaver isn't the default screensaver program on ubuntu
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, Does that make sense for you, using windows own partitioner to shrink it?
[22:54] <jrib> FireStorms: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeScreensaver/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#Is_there_a_way_to_perform_actions_when_the_screensaver_activates_or_deactivates.3F_Or_when_the_session_becomes_idle.3F here's your answer for gnome-screensaver
[22:54] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: I think so. so for example, I can shrink windows partition to 450gb. then when i srestart and try to install ubuntu, i make an 'extended partition' (will be an option for 'extended'?) and make that 550gb/what's left, and within that, allocate 450gb to ubuntu and 100gb will be ntfs?
[22:55] <chaospsychex> doesn't the ubuntu iso come with gparted ?
[22:55] <escott> chaospsychex, i dont believe the newer versions do
[22:55] <dsprc> bsmith0931: have you played around with the "sync port" settings yet?
[22:55] <Seven_Six_Two> I added a network card to a server (it works fine), and now apache won't serve pages to the internet. It was working (nothing else was changed), and it will serve on my lan without problem.
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[22:56] <dsprc> bsmith0931: should have had this problem last week before my m130 died on me :P
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[22:56] <FloodBot1> znc4: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[22:56] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: and unofficially?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: its fine, get it in
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, I would use gparted to build the partitions on the ubuntu install, to set it up and use the do something else option at the install gui this is a manual install, we can help you there as well, and the making of the partitions. ;)
[22:56] <Seven_Six_Two> I tried adding the ip to both ports.conf and namevirtualhost directive. still no dice.
[22:57] <chaospsychex> SunMoonStar: ...and you can use gparted to resize the win7 partition to make room for a ubuntu partition
[22:57] <bsmith0931> dsprc:  to try and make it work yestreday, i dont even remeemberdsprc:  ummm, maybe i did so many tweaky thing
[22:57] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: what about 12.04 LTS? does that use php5-fpm? then i could use nginx's official package
[22:58] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: thanks. I want to take you up on it but think I should back up my windows stuff. Should I use gparted to resize windows 7 or use the one you mentioned within windows? also what is a virtual linux partitioner? :)
[22:58] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, how do you mount your brouser in a /tmp ram dir
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> !info php5-fpm precise
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> chaospsychex, The general consensus these days is to let windows do its own partitioning it is safer
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: ^ yes
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, I would not use gparted to resize windows that far myself, and yes back it up.
[22:58] <chaospsychex> wilee-nilee: i see
[22:59] <SunMoonStar> chaospsychex: thanks
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: I make a folder in /run at boot using /etc/rc.local  then I have a symlink from ~/.cache/google-chrome  to that folder already setup
[22:59] <Norbertoss> escott: "ln -sfvn ..." doesn't want to overwrite directory with a symlink. Is it impossible, anyway ? I'v read "ln --help", and the definition to "--force" is the next: "remove existing destination files". Well ?
[22:59] <escott> wilee-nilee, i've never heard that before. can windows partition a running fs?
[22:59] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: if you are still here after i backed up i will check if you're here
[22:59] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: thanks
[22:59] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, thanks
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> escott, Yes it is like magic in W7. ;)
[22:59] <chaospsychex> although I have never ran into problems using gparted to resize ntfs partitions. as long as you make sure you don't 'cut' into files.
[22:59] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: is 12.04 LTS more stable than 12.10?
[23:00] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: ps, what is a virtual linx partitioner? you said it's on your wishlistr
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> escott, also does it instantaneously.
[23:00] <Norbertoss> wilee-nilee: I don't think it is can be done in Win7 with default tools. But it can be done with "PartitionMagic"
[23:00] <dw-> Why is Chrome stuck at 18.x on Ubuntu Oneeric (11.10) ? I see 22.x is available from Google, but it won't install, it just keeps installing 18.x.  It's annoying because GDrive keeps saying I'm out of date.
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: its intended to be, yes
[23:00] <escott> Norbertoss, as i understand your problem you have /target_dir and you ln -s /target_dir /path/to/some/file and it makes /path/to/some/file->/target_dir. you then run it again and it makes /path/to/some/file->/target_dir/file which -n fixes
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, That is basically what the W7 partitioner is called as it does it on a running setup
[23:01] <chipotle> ActionParsnip:  so who decides what stable means? with debian, it's simple. but it seems ubuntu is making it up...
[23:01] <escott> Norbertoss, because the issue is how ln is interpreting the target (honestly i dont understand why you would ever NOT want -n)
[23:01] <chipotle> is both 12.04 and 12.10 frozen?
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> Norbertoss, Yes it can I would not say it could if it did not. ;)
[23:01] <escott> Norbertoss, but presumably somebody had a usecase for this back in the day
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: packages are tested more in LTS before publishing
[23:01] <dsprc> bsmith0931: you can try to 'dmesg | tail' and see if its being recognized
[23:01] <chipotle> hm
[23:02] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: as a sidenote, i bought a 1TB backup drive.. should I partition that into ext4/ntfs partitions or should I just save my linux stuff on ntfs? it works to do that?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: generally the packages in the LTS wil be older but the Quantal packages will be newer but not LTS
[23:02] <bsmith0931> dsprc: i did the "press the hotsync button" -fu but it never worked
[23:02] <escott> wilee-nilee, ok. im a bit more paranoid about things. i wouldn't recommend a live resize of a filesystem when an offline resize is available
[23:03] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: what does long term support mean?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: 5 years support, non LTS is supported 1.5 years
[23:03] <escott> SunMoonStar, cannot install ubuntu on NTFS it must have an ext4 you can link subfolders in $HOME to folders in the NTFS
[23:03] <chaospsychex> SunMoonStar: i would do a half/half of ext4/ntfs. windows doesn't natively support ext4 without third-party drivers...
[23:03] <dsprc> bsmith0931: assuming everything is kosher, you sometimes have to be ninja on the hotsync and press it from the palm first, then quickly again in jpilot
[23:03] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: okay, i'll go with lts then
[23:03] <chipotle> any reason not to?
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, All my externals are ntfs you can save to that with both OS's I save with a app called grsync in ubuntu this saves home and clone bothe OS to it as well.
[23:03] <bsmith0931> dsprc: also, i have a crapload of text files sorted into many different folders, what will make them readable on the palm, wi\th minimal garbage chars due to encoding probelms?
[23:04] <Norbertoss> escott: Is it able to overwrite a real directory too ?
[23:04] <chaospsychex> personally, i despise the NTFS fs.
[23:04] <dw-> How do I update Chrome beyond 18.x.  Ubuntu won't let me, and Google Drive keeps giving a warning message about out of date.  It's annoying.
[23:04] <chipotle> how long has lts been out?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: i'd advise it for servers, quantal is good if you want the latest bells and whistles
[23:04] <dsprc> bsmith0931: are you using a specific reader or just Memo on the palm?
[23:04] <escott> Norbertoss, you mean where /path/to/link is already a directory instead of /path/to/link either not existing or being a link?
[23:05] <bsmith0931> umm how would i use memo on the palm
[23:05] <escott> Norbertoss, my guess is no, because it would first have to rm -rf that folder which would be unexpected. i wouldnt want ln to be doing rm -rf with a single bad option
[23:05] <jrib> chipotle: 6.06, 8.04, 10.04, and 12.04 have all been LTS.  The versions correspond to YEAR.MONTH of release
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> escott, I can understand your thoughts here I have done it a lot of times with no problems. If you think what lvms and raid can do there are live resizes in linux as well.
[23:05] <chipotle> jrib: ah! thanks :)
[23:06] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: I am downloading grsync now. I am able to back up my windows from within this ubuntu using that !?
[23:06] <trism> dw-: if 12.04, 20 is in precise-proposed, otherwise you may want to just install google-chrome
[23:06] <trism> dw-: sorry no, it is in precise-updates now
[23:06] <trism> dw-: do you not have -updates enabled?
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, Grsync os a app in ubuntu, you will only need it when installed, I don't know if it has a windows use honestly.
[23:06] <escott> wilee-nilee, but those are (usually) done offline. in any case i don't know that i would say its a general consensus to have everyone doing this
[23:07] <dsprc> bsmith0931: you just import them in the palmdoc format and $DEITY willing they automagically appear there
[23:07] <escott> wilee-nilee, there is rsync for windows
[23:07] <chaospsychex> SunMoonStar: you want to dual-boot on your internal hdd and use the 1tb external for storage, e.t.c ?
[23:07] <bsmith0931> dsprc: what palmdoc format
[23:07] <Fudge> any idea why a machine would revert to read only filesystem once a week or so
[23:07] <SunMoonStar> chaospsychex: yes
[23:07] <bsmith0931> dsprc: can memo read sd cards?
[23:07] <escott> Fudge, your disk is probably going bad. open the disk utility and check the SMART status
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> All I'm going to say here on the windows partitioner is that if you look at the ubuntu forums, this app is advised constantly. ActionParsnip also mentioned it in this discussion.
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: fsck in liveCD, also grab the ultimate boot cd and check the drive with manufacturers tool
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: make sure your backups are sufficiently up to date
[23:09] <chaospsychex> SunMoonStar: it's very simple then. Boot the ubuntu image, resize the ntfs partition to make room. you have to make sure that you don't 'cut' into files that are on the ntfs partition though. You will see it, when you do it. it shows you the presence of files in relation to free-space on the partition.
[23:09] <Norbertoss> escott: Thank you very much for made this clean for me. I just didn't want to use rm -rf in my code unneccesarily. I understodd that I have to ;). Hahha, I were glad, if it was act like that. xD
[23:09] <dsprc> bsmith0931: it should be able to (IIRC) by ticking the menu at the top right and selecting the card. havent used the m1xx series i years tho.
[23:09] <SunMoonStar> thanks all. logging off to back stuff up.
[23:10] <chaospsychex> SunMoonStar: have fun
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, Well I tried to help you, the people here who just not familiar with the advised options are just crowding in, best of luck. ;)
[23:10] <Fudge> thanks guys
[23:10] <chaospsychex> SunMoonStar: don't mess with the 100MB system partition that win7 uses!
[23:10] <wyclif> back
[23:11] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: should iuse grsync to back up my home stuff on this (I will eventually want to get rid of this WUBI) onto my external? cause i saw that ubuntu comes with a stock app for backing up
[23:11] <escott> SunMoonStar, you could just install the new system then boot it and then copy your files off the wubi
[23:12] <escott> SunMoonStar, unless you are short on disk space
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, I'm hesitant to say more as I'm being contradicted, this just makes things confusing for you. I know what I'm doing is all I will say.
[23:12] <SunMoonStar> wilee-nilee: i'd like to hear your suggestion :)
[23:13] <dsprc> bsmith0931: youre better off getting a dedicated reader though. http://www.memoware.com/mw.cgi/?screen=help_format
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> SunMoonStar, I'm very careful what I post, and I don't like being faced on the channel, so you have to understand my limitations in this.
[23:14] <chaospsychex> wilee-nilee: ?
[23:15] <SunMoonStar> whow
[23:15] <SunMoonStar> nice guy and quite helpful but seems quite sensitive
[23:15] <wyclif> I can't boot ubuntu installation iso from my SCSI CDROM; I've set the boot order to boot the CDROM first to no avail :(
[23:15] <escott> SunMoonStar, you are bound to get different opinions in the channel, because people have different opinions. go with what you feel comfortable with
[23:15] <SunMoonStar> escott: thanks.
[23:15] <escott> wyclif, i would check if this cd can boot on another system
[23:16] <chaospsychex> wyclif: dang man, still having the problem huh, it's been hours
[23:16] <escott> wyclif, it very well may be that the image no longer works for the particular scsi boot you need. in which case you either (a) need to get an IDE cd drive and boot that (b) do an upgrade following !eol
[23:16] <escott> !eol | wyclif
[23:16] <chaospsychex> wyclif: wish i coul help you but i'm not very familiar with scsi
[23:16] <wyclif> chaospsychex: yeah I did what you recommended and ran md5sum on the disc
[23:16] <chaospsychex> wyclif: and ?
[23:17] <wyclif> chaospsychex: still can't get the iso to boot
[23:17] <chaospsychex> wyclif: was the md5 the same ?
[23:17] <wyclif> chaospsychex: Yes!
[23:17] <svspl> which packages do I need for Power Management in KDE to work?
[23:17] <chaospsychex> wyclif: do you have other computers?
[23:17] <wyclif> chaospsychex: I have access to a friend's MBP
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> svspl: try running:  apt-cache search kde | grep power
[23:18] <chaospsychex> wyclif: mbp ?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: mac book pro
[23:18] <chaospsychex> oh
[23:18] <wyclif> chaospsychex: MacBookPro :)
[23:18] <svspl> ActionParsnip, tried that, nothing
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> svspl: try in #kubuntu too
[23:18] <chaospsychex> wyclif: are you on the system right now?
[23:18] <svspl> I did
[23:19] <wyclif> chaospsychex: yes
[23:19] <chaospsychex> put a cd in that you know works
[23:19] <keithclark>  I have added a new usb  hard drive to my server and installed usbmount.  I can see usb-usb7 directories added to /media  but nothing is in the directories.  I saved data there on another computer with rsync to this drive.  Is it not available to another computer?
[23:19] <wyclif> BTW, that EOLUupgrades page doesn't exist
[23:20] <escott> wyclif, sure exists for me
[23:20] <chaospsychex> wyclif: or, put the ubuntu cd in and try to mount it to see if you can access the fs on the disc
[23:21] <chaospsychex> wyclif: you know, you have been at this for hours with no luck and I feel your pain. Why don't you try booting to the .iso from the hdd ?
[23:22] <wyclif> chaospsychex: how to do that? For example:
[23:22] <escott> chaospsychex, thats not going to work well for him. because he will need to install over the same FS that houses the iso
[23:23] <wyclif> chaospsychex: sudo mount /media/cdrom
[23:23] <chaospsychex> escott: yes but if he could somehow get the .iso onto a seperate partition. but resizing it when he can't boot...can't resize while it's mounted and in use
[23:23] <escott> chaospsychex, yeah thats what i was getting at
[23:23] <wyclif> chaospsychex: mount: no media found on /dev/sr0
[23:23] <chaospsychex> wyclif: do you have any un-partioned space on the hd ?
[23:23] <wyclif> chaospsychex: yes
[23:24] <wyclif> chaospsychex: plenty of free space
[23:24] <chaospsychex> wyclif: how much free un-partioned space ?
[23:24] <escott> wyclif, if it is big enough to hold the iso you can put the iso in that and use grub to boot the iso
[23:24] <chaospsychex> wyclif: not FREE space, UN-PARTIONED space ?
[23:24] <wyclif> chaospsychex: how do I check that?
[23:24] <wyclif> chaospsychex: yes
[23:24] <chaospsychex> wyclif: with gparted, or disk utility, or fdisk
[23:25] <wyclif> I have GRUB 0.97
[23:25] <escott> wyclif, how about you send us the output of "sudo parted -l"
[23:25] <chaospsychex> wyclif: yes, what escott said
[23:27] <s1lence> does anybody know of a urxvt PPA for quantal?
[23:27] <wyclif> escott: 17.6 GB primary, 18.4GB extended, 18.4GB logical (linux-swap)
[23:28] <escott> !paste | wyclif
[23:28] <chaospsychex> wyclif: how big is that drive ?
[23:28] <Linkandzelda> How would I go about changing the theme of the notifcation bubbles?
[23:28] <wyclif> chaospsychex: 17GB
[23:29] <chaospsychex> wyclif: um, no. the WHOLE drive
[23:29] <escott> wyclif, it sounds like there is no unused space on the system. you could perhaps steal the swap space though. swapoff /dev/sdX# and then put dd the iso into that partition
[23:29] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, is it possible to drag and drop from /usr/share/applications >>> chromium web browser into the tmpfs in ram and have it all run in ram??
[23:30] <Aethelred> I'm attempting to upgrade from grub to grub2. I'm following the instructions here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading  ... and what I'm seeing has diverged from what the guide says. I'm not sure what to do next.
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> !info s steal the swap space though. swapoff /dev/sdX# and the
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> oh jeez
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> sorry
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: that won't work, you need to link the cache folder to a folder in tempfs
[23:31] <escott> wyclif, but if you paste the full output of parted -l we can tell you for sure
[23:31] <wyclif> chaospsychex: escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1333536
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: the file in /usr/share/applications is mothing but a launcher, like a shortcut or start menu item in Windows
[23:32] <escott> wyclif, what in blazes....
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> s1lence: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=rxvt-unicode&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all   why do you need a PPA?
[23:32] <escott> wyclif, i guess this is your scsi raid being stupid and reporting multiple disks instead of a single logical disk?
[23:32] <chaospsychex> wyclif: 0.o ?
[23:33] <chaospsychex> yes, big problem there
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> s1lence: or am I missing something?
[23:34] <wyclif> escott: I don't know why it repeats the entries like that. I did paste the full return from parted -l
[23:34] <chaospsychex> wyclif: g2g,escott has you covered
[23:34] <raymondjtoth_> how i upghrade to ubuntu on desktop with out losing any thing i got now
[23:34] <raymondjtoth_> |
[23:34] <escott> wyclif, yeah thats not correct. no tool should be able to access independently the disks in the raid
[23:34] <raymondjtoth_> ?
[23:34] <raymondjtoth_> im on windows now
[23:34] <escott> wyclif, im not sure what to tell you to do. i would worry that the commands i might give you could corrupt your existing system
[23:34] <Rockpile> hello how is everyone doing
[23:35] <OerHeks> raymondjtoth_, make a backup first to be sure.
[23:35] <raymondjtoth_> OerHeks: ok then what i do
[23:35] <raymondjtoth_> i dont want to formate
[23:35] <OerHeks> raymondjtoth_, then upgrade ?
[23:35] <dsprc> !away | atrius_away
[23:35] <raymondjtoth_> OerHeks: imwn windows want to migrate to ubuntu
[23:36] <MarcN> Asking again, had some network issues.  Since upgrading to 12.10, f-spot takes about 5 seconds to display photos on an external USB disk.  Seems slower than in 12.04.  Any one see worse USB mass storage performance?  Think f-spot is same version...
[23:36] <wyclif> escott: chaospsychex: I'm guessing it's because you can terminate up to 15 devices on a SCSI bus, but in fact on this system the only devices are the HDD (shown) and the CDROM drive
[23:36] <OerHeks> raymondjtoth_, then go for install, you cannot upgrade windows to ubuntu.
[23:36] <raymondjtoth_> OerHeks: ok how i keep ubuntu and never see windows agen
[23:36] <raymondjtoth_> \
[23:36] <raymondjtoth_> ?
[23:37] <s1lence> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:37] <OerHeks> raymondjtoth_, so you want to delete windows and keep ubuntu?
[23:37] <raymondjtoth_> no i want to keep the files i got now and move over to ubuntu
[23:38] <raymondjtoth_> with out a formate
[23:38] <escott> wyclif, so you evidently have (or intend to have RAID) so all the file access should be running through a /dev/md* device which the scsi controller should duplicate to the different disks
[23:38] <escott> wyclif, the fact that parted can see the different disks in the RAID array is VERY VERY VERY BAD BAD BAD
[23:39] <raymondjtoth_> OerHeks:  understand
[23:39] <OerHeks> raymondjtoth_, i don't understand what you want.
[23:39] <wyclif> escott: great :( do you know how I can fix that?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> escott: how bad again (haha jk)
[23:39] <escott> wyclif, because you should NOT be doing anything with /dev/sda but rather be running everything through /dev/md
[23:39] <raymondjtoth_> OerHeks: i want to keep filess i got here on windows and just install as upgrade to ubuntu withg out lossing files
[23:40] <escott> wyclif, so i would recommend you back everything up first
[23:40] <wyclif> escott: i assumed /dev/sda is how all SCSI devices are set up
[23:40] <wyclif> escott: I backed everything up about an hour ago, so I'm good with that
[23:41] <escott> wyclif, /dev/sda is a real physical disk that actually exists. /dev/md* is a multi-device which could hit multiple physical disks like /sda, /sdb etc
[23:41] <wyclif> escott: yep, /dev/sda is my HDD here
[23:41] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, so i create a symlink to the tmpfs from the .cache folder, what needs to go into the .cache folder to make it work properly?
[23:41] <gustav__> Can you set up a /dev/md with a RAM disk too?
[23:41] <escott> wyclif, what does "swapon -s" show
[23:42] <escott> wyclif, but im also seeing this /dev/sdb is that also a physical disk that exists?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: i'm not sure what folder chromium uses, but if you make a folder in tempfs you can link it to that
[23:42] <wyclif> escott: /dev/sdo5
[23:42] <escott> wyclif, ditto on sdc - sdl or whatever
[23:42] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, ok thanks
[23:42] <escott> wyclif, so swapon -s only shows sdo5?
[23:42] <wyclif> escott: could that be the CDROM drive?
[23:43] <wyclif> escott: yes
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: as its tempfs the changes are lost each reboot so you'll need to recreat it with /etc/rc.local and because that runs as root, you will need to chown it to your username
[23:43] <escott> wyclif, no. sdo5 should really be the same as sda5 and sdb5 and so on
[23:43] <escott> wyclif, thats what is scaring me
[23:43] <wyclif> escott: the only two devices on this SCSI bus are the Seagate HDD and the CDROM drive.
[23:44] <escott> wyclif, so the scsi controller is doing something all kinds of wrong, because thats not what it is telling the kernel. the kernel thinks you have a dozen disks in this system
[23:45] <wyclif> escott: right, instead of sda-o
[23:45] <wyclif> escott: so I'm wondering how to fix that. BTW, I do have access to the BIOS and the SCSI BIOS, and thought all the settings there are good
[23:46] <wyclif> escott: yes, at post it tells me "too many devices terminated" but it will still boot ubuntu jaunty from the HDD
[23:46] <ng0n> anyone here built vga plug dongles to run X with no screen ?
[23:47] <jonne> can anyone help me out with installing quantal on a zenbook ux32a?
[23:47] <escott> wyclif, also the fact that you are on grub1 means im not sure we can do what we proposed
[23:48] <SunMoonStar> guys, as some know I want to make a shared partition ntfs for windows and ubuntu to share files. currently i have one big ntfs block only as i'm running ubuntu on wubi. So, when i install ubuntu and my shared parition, should they be encapsulated in one 'extended' partition? or should I just simply make 2 totally separate partitions for them?
[23:48] <escott> wyclif, looking at http://superuser.com/questions/154133/grub-boot-from-iso
[23:48] <jonne> even with nomodeset it wont boot
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> jonne: what video chip do you use
[23:49] <escott> SunMoonStar, either way is fine. windows doesnt always like booting from an extended partition but ubuntu doesnt care if it is extended
[23:49] <jonne> it's an intel hd 4000
[23:49] <escott> jonne, what version of ubuntu
[23:49] <jonne> quantal
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> jonne: strange, does Precise intall ok?
[23:49] <escott> jonne, sorry just saw it. you shouldn't be having any problems or need nomodeset
[23:50] <SunMoonStar> escott: since extended is an extra step, i will not use that
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> jonne: tried the safemode VGA (if its still an option)
[23:50] <SunMoonStar> escott: since they are equally fine. makes sense?
[23:50] <SunMoonStar> escott: b/c i don't know what's the advantage
[23:50] <escott> SunMoonStar, sure. just be aware of the 4 partition limit on logicals, and that you will need a partition for ubuntu swap
[23:50] <OerHeks> jonne, answe #7 maybe the solution >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2060762 >>>  change "nomodeset"  to "acpi_osi=windows"
[23:50] <ng0n> anyone here built vga plug dongles to run X with no screen ?
[23:50] <Guest8764> hola alguien sabe como haker una cuenta de faceboock
[23:50] <jonne> it just stopped at stopping systemv runlevel compatibility
[23:50] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, this is what came up for chromium>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1333562/ i woulnd have a clue what to use
[23:51] <escott> !es | Guest8764
[23:51] <SunMoonStar> escott: okay, thanks
[23:51] <paulschreiber> my grub menu has many duplicate entries: http://pastebin.com/fPu7JCv9 how do i fix this?
[23:51] <ng0n> .2s lag
[23:52] <escott> paulschreiber, i dont see any duplicates
[23:52] <Guest8764> Someone knows like hakear an account of faceboock
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: /home/ace/.cache/chromium
[23:52] <escott> paulschreiber, ahhh just keep scrolling ok
[23:53] <jonne> trying with that boot option now
[23:53] <wyclif> escott: looks like it's not possible via GRUB1
[23:53] <escott> wyclif, or at least not easy :)
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: you only needed to search your home folder, we knew it was going to be in there
[23:53] <OerHeks> Guest8764, hacking is offtopic
[23:53] <Chotaz> Why does Compiz keep crashing after every restart? I just fresh installed ubuntu
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Chotaz: are you fully updated?
[23:54] <escott> paulschreiber, looks like you have multiple versions of ubuntu installed. is that correct?
[23:54] <Chotaz> ActionParsnip,  yes sir
[23:54] <wyclif> escott: this has been a lesson to me not to let a version go into unsupported without updating :(
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Just to share with all, if you don't have status or status-old in /var/lib/dpkg   you can copy one from /var/backup
[23:55] <paulschreiber> ecott: no, i just have one ubuntu — 12.10
[23:55] <escott> wyclif, still not understanding why you cant get the EOLUpgrades page to load
[23:55] <escott> wyclif, that would seem to be the easiest way to do things
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Chotaz: which release?
[23:55] <paulschreiber> escott: there are no other OSes installed
[23:55] <jonne> doesn't appear to work
[23:55] <scott009> n #owncloud
[23:55] <jonne> just got a black screen
[23:55] <escott> paulschreiber, im wondering what could be confusing the os-prober script
[23:55] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, so i just link to .cache/chromium to tmpfs and it will work??
[23:55] <paulschreiber> escott: me too!
[23:55] <Chotaz> ActionParsnip,  12.10, I came back from a really bad case of using "purge"
[23:56] <wyclif> escott: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUupgrades ???
[23:56] <paulschreiber> escott: my 12.04 -> 12.10 upgrade was botched — the ssh connection died partyway through
[23:56] <escott> paulschreiber, do you have multiple disks? using RAID?
[23:56] <escott> wyclif, yes
[23:56] <jonne> screw it, i'll just keep using windows until i can do it at home.
[23:56] <Linkandzelda> guys my window decorations have gone again lol
[23:56] <paulschreiber> scott: yes, using software raid (mdadm) 2 disks
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: its a link to a folder
[23:56] <jonne> googling stuff on my phone isn't too practical
[23:56] <wyclif> escott: "This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates"
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: so you will need to make the folder
[23:57] <escott> paulschreiber, i bet thats the issue
[23:57] <escott> wyclif, odd. certainly not what i see
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: then make the link to it, add commands in /etc/rc.local to make the same folder and chown to your user at boot
[23:57] <paulschreiber> escott: http://pastebin.com/AkvUaDYS that's my mdstat
[23:57] <escott> wyclif, ok now im getting that too. maybe the help.ubuntu.com server is having problems
[23:58] <OerHeks> wyclif, escott https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades not  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUupgrades ( look at the Uu
[23:58] <wyclif> escott: YES, I think you're right about that, because I remember hitting this page earlier today and there was content. Now, nothing but a placeholder
[23:58] <wyclif> OerHeks: errm...thanks! ugh... :(((
[23:58] <escott> paulschreiber, so the quick and dirty fix is to remove /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[23:59] <escott> paulschreiber, as long as you have no other OSes it won't matter to you
[23:59] <escott> OerHeks, thanks for catching that
[23:59] <paulschreiber> escott: http://inky.ws/g/2ao