| Quintasan | shadeslayer: ping | 02:01 |
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| Quintasan | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/kubuntu-dev.html | 02:02 |
| Quintasan | Y U EMPTY | 02:02 |
| Tm_T | good morning | 04:27 |
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| Riddell | I'm taking a holiday for a few days, see you later in the week | 10:07 |
| yofel__ | have fun :) | 10:08 |
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| apol | why doesn't kde-gtk-config have previews? Is there any reason in kubuntu not to depend on gtk? | 11:52 |
| apol | apachelogger: ^? I see that you added that recently | 11:54 |
| yofel__ | apol: the usual reason was ISO space, as we have oxygen-gtk there but nothing that uses it. So not having gtk there saves space and breaks nothing (except the examples) | 11:55 |
| apol | yofel__: is kubuntu still limited to CD size? | 11:56 |
| yofel__ | we do have an arbitrary 1GiB limit. And space is better spent on translations than on gtk | 11:57 |
| apol | ok.. | 12:00 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:07 |
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| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1074643] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite sh... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1074643 (by Paul Hoell) | 12:24 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1046825] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2 failed to install/upgrade: lectura insuficiente en b... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046825 (by starky_00) | 13:27 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1031856] I tried to install Skype, and now I can't delete it or install others packages. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1031856 (by Norbert Budzyński) | 15:30 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1034986] vlc crashed with SIGABRT in __assert_fail_base() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1034986 (by Ricardo J. Moreira Teixeira) | 15:30 |
| ScottK | !apt | 15:41 |
| ubottu | APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE) | 15:41 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: ^^^ really needs updating. | 15:41 |
| ScottK | Adept is removed from the archive and KPackageKit is called Apper now. | 15:42 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: give suggestion which I can apply (: | 15:45 |
| yofel__ | !muon | 15:45 |
| ScottK | Adept/Muon and KPackageKit/Apper | 15:45 |
| ubottu | Muon is the current Kubuntu package manager. Please see http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/introducing-qapt-and-the-muon-package-manager/ for an overview | 15:45 |
| yofel__ | geh, what a link | 15:46 |
| ScottK | That's a bit old too | 15:48 |
| rbelem | :-D | 17:48 |
| rbelem | thx guys | 17:48 |
| ScottK | Happy birthday rbelem. | 20:10 |
| ScottK | !apt | 20:11 |
| ubottu | APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE) | 20:11 |
| * ScottK reminds Tm_T to get to it. | 20:11 | |
| ScottK | yofel_: I propose we upload akonadi with the 4.9.3 SRU for quantal and not separately. | 20:11 |
| yofel_ | ScottK: you mean use the same bug #? | 20:12 |
| ScottK | Yes | 20:12 |
| tsimpson | !apt =~ /Adept/Muon/ | 20:12 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that tsimpson | 20:12 |
| tsimpson | !apt =~ /KPackageKit/Apper/ | 20:12 |
| tsimpson | !apt | 20:12 |
| ubottu | APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE) | 20:12 |
| yofel_ | ok, I'll finish things in a bit. Only symbol updates left to do I think | 20:13 |
| ScottK | tsimpson: Thanks. | 20:13 |
| tsimpson | :) | 20:13 |
| * ScottK imagines Tm_T must still be tired due to jetlag coming back from UDS. | 20:13 | |
| SteveRiley | hallo all | 20:34 |
| SteveRiley | newegg decided to cancel my nexus 7 tablet order since i placed it from denmark -- "unusual" they said | 20:35 |
| SteveRiley | so i ordered one from someplace else, will be here on wednesday | 20:35 |
| SteveRiley | sigh. | 20:35 |
| SteveRiley | everyone recover from jetlag? | 20:35 |
| ScottK | SteveRiley: I'm currently on a flight to get some new jetlag. | 20:36 |
| * ScottK loves wifi on planes. | 20:36 | |
| SteveRiley | ScottK: and yet, they tell you to switch off your bluetooth mouse. 2.4 GHz = 2.4 GHz regardless of source, right? | 20:37 |
| ScottK | Well, it's all a matter of what they've done EMC testing on. | 20:40 |
| ScottK | It's not that it's known bad, but that it's unknown. | 20:41 |
| ScottK | OK. Just about to shut down for landing. | 20:43 |
| SteveRiley | enjoy | 20:43 |
| SteveRiley | shadeslayer: when you have a moment, can you look at http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?60886-kde-telepathy-accounts-login-errors | 20:43 |
| SteveRiley | shadeslayer: i'm seeing the same problem on both my laptops, not sure if it's known or which package to file a bug against | 20:44 |
| SteveRiley | shadeslayer: for me, the problem is only with jabber. other protocols work fine. | 20:44 |
| keithzg | With the Ubuntu side of things testing the Nexus 7, is there any testing of the N7 with Kubuntu Active that could/needs-to be done? | 20:52 |
| keithzg | I tripped over my housemate's cat the other day and cracked the screen, so I'm up for wiping mine and doing some testing :) | 20:52 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: yeah, had to rotate my old rusty clock 23 hours back when I got home | 20:55 |
| Tm_T | that said, heading to sleep so have to look into those factoids tomorrow (: | 20:55 |
| yofel_ | ok, now to finish 4.9.3 | 21:13 |
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| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1055114] three guest accounts on lightdm login screen after "sign out" @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1055114 (by Pascal Rosin) | 21:13 |
| SteveRiley | keithzg: yes, i've ordered a nexus 7 and it should arrive in a couple days. quintasan has the script to build an image. | 21:23 |
| SteveRiley | the installer completely wipes android and puts ubuntu on the bare metal. | 21:23 |
| yofel | yeah, only symbols to update | 21:27 |
| yofel | !testers | 21:27 |
| ubottu | Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw | 21:27 |
| yofel | 4.9.3 for quantal needs testing in ninjas | 21:27 |
| SteveRiley | plasma active sort of works, afiestas had it running on his nexus 7 last week. but there's something not right about how finger taps are interpreted. he's checking into that. | 21:28 |
| yofel | SteveRiley: Can you put android back on it? IIRC there was a way | 21:29 |
| yofel | I'll get a N7 myself till end of the week | 21:29 |
| SteveRiley | yofel: yup, that's also possible. | 21:29 |
| SteveRiley | all the flashing is done via fastboot, so it appears to be reasonably resistant to bricking | 21:29 |
| yofel | yeah, they did say that they didn't brick a single tab | 21:30 |
| SteveRiley | they showed 8 GB and 16 GB tablets. i've ordered a 32 GB tablet. i'll install the 16 GB image; the tablet guys said i should be able to resize2fs the partition to use the full space. no one's tried that before :) | 21:33 |
| yofel | resize2fs is how you flash the SD cards for raspberrypi boards | 21:35 |
| yofel | so shouldn't be a problem | 21:35 |
| yofel | I'll probably get the 32G version too, without SIM card support though | 21:36 |
| SteveRiley | yeah, i opted to go sim-less too. seattle is pretty much bathed in wi-fi. i can ride the bus all over downtown and hop on insecure wi-fi. people should be glad i'm not evil :) | 21:38 |
| yofel | not as much here, but I can get internet over bluetooth and my mobile phone | 21:39 |
| yofel | 4.9.3 done for raring too now | 21:46 |
| yofel | hm | 21:47 |
| yofel | Quintasan_: ping, 4.9.3 testing needed (and tell someone to add you to !testers) | 21:47 |
| mparillo | When you wrote 4.9.3 is done for raring, I went to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20121105/ but there are no 32-bit Raring ISOs yet, are there? | 21:49 |
| keithzg | yofel: that's one area where a Kubuntu Nexus 7 may have a big advantage over the stock Android install; the core OS doesn't really respect a bluetooth connection as an internet connection, so refuses to, for example, check email. | 21:50 |
| yofel | hm, don't think so, and with the milestone rework I'm not sure when they'll start building them | 21:51 |
| yofel | also, 3.9.3 is currently only in the ninjas PPA | 21:51 |
| yofel | release is tomorrow, then it'll get into the archive | 21:51 |
| yofel | hm, we should probably watch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/ for system issues | 21:52 |
| mparillo | Thank you. Is an aternative to download the 13.04 server image ISO, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and will the 4.9.3 update get pushed? | 21:53 |
| yofel | in a few days after 4.9.3 got uploaded and passed -proposed, yes | 21:54 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, I'll wait for that since I'm running 13.04 already | 21:54 |
| yofel | mparillo: actually, the dailies just failed to build | 22:04 |
| mparillo | Thank you yofel, but BluesKaj is running 13.04 already. 64-bit, or hacked together somehow? | 22:05 |
| yofel | you can always change 'quantal' to 'raring' in your /etc/apt/sources.list and dist-upgrade | 22:06 |
| yofel | unsupported, but only way right now | 22:06 |
| yofel | (I mean, unsupported, but it ~works) | 22:06 |
| mparillo | Opens with Libre Office, ugh when I click from Dolphin. Basically I should kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list from the Konsole, and do a global search and replace? | 22:11 |
| yofel | pretty much, or 'sudo sed 's/quantal/raring/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list' from konsole | 22:12 |
| BluesKaj | mparillo, yeah ,started with the toolchain and edited sources.list ...so far so good | 22:12 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: well, WE didn't break anything yet :P | 22:12 |
| yofel | 4.10 beta1 tagging is in 10 days, that'll be fun (except for the "make 40 kdegames packages" part -.-) | 22:13 |
| BluesKaj | mparillo, I have a 12.10 fallback install on another partition | 22:14 |
| mparillo | Thx, so do I. And thanks for the sed tip. Next is sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? | 22:17 |
| yofel | yep | 22:17 |
| Quintasan_ | #@$%!#$!#%1 | 22:19 |
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| Quintasan | Curses | 22:19 |
| yofel | ? | 22:19 |
| Quintasan | burndown charts are not up yet | 22:19 |
| Quintasan | and I'm still sitting here cursing libreoffice is somehow default for txt files | 22:20 |
| Quintasan | how did that end up being the case? | 22:20 |
| yofel | that's seem like a pattern somehow... | 22:20 |
| yofel | we even patched txt support out of calligra | 22:20 |
| Quintasan | on my fresh qunatal install it uses libreoffice | 22:20 |
| Quintasan | curses | 22:20 |
| yofel | on my fresh quantal vm it uses kate, so I have no idea what happens there | 22:21 |
| * yofel curses the symbolhelper in the meanwhile | 22:21 | |
| yofel | SIGH | 22:24 |
| yofel | Quintasan: libmygpo-qt is cursed | 22:24 |
| Quintasan | did I break it? | 22:24 |
| yofel | no, the symbolshelper has a bug I think | 22:24 |
| * Quintasan just did an update | 22:25 | |
| Quintasan | and that's it | 22:25 |
| yofel | was trying to upload your package into the archive, but I can't get the symbolsfile to work right | 22:25 |
| yofel | the symbolshelper creates this for amd64 i386: (subst)_Znw{size_t}Pv@Base 1.0.6 | 22:26 |
| yofel | and then errors out in pbuilder with | 22:26 |
| yofel | - (subst)_Znw{size_t}Pv@Base 1.0.6 | 22:26 |
| yofel | + _ZnwmPv@Base 1.0.6-0ubuntu1 | 22:26 |
| yofel | i386 is _ZnwjPv@Base 1.0.6-0ubuntu1 | 22:26 |
| yofel | now that's fun, m is unsigned long, j unsigned int. stupid gcc | 22:29 |
| yofel | SIGH (again) | 22:37 |
| yofel | why am I using pkgkde-symbolshelper to debug a program that doesn't use it? -.- | 22:38 |
| mparillo | Is this a serious warning: Failed to download http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-i386/Packages | 22:39 |
| mparillo | 404 Not Found | 22:39 |
| maco | mparillo: i think it just means there are no extras for raring yet | 22:41 |
| yofel | mparillo: comment the extras repository out, it doesn't yet have a raring pocket | 22:41 |
| yofel | (and won't have one for a while) | 22:41 |
| maco | extras is where stuff that's added post-release goes, right? | 22:42 |
| yofel | right | 22:42 |
| maco | you can ignore it, but if you comment it out, apt-get update will run a couple seconds faster. depends how much you care about those coupe seconds | 22:42 |
| yofel | if you have 404's then it won't auto-regenerate the cache, which at least breaks bash completion for apt-cache (sudo apt-get check would manually re-gen that) | 22:44 |
| shadeslayer | SteveRiley: #kde-telepathy, I'm on vacation, will only be checking in occasionally | 22:53 |
| yofel | Quintasan: libmygpo uploaded, it didn't use the pkg-kde-tools yet. | 22:53 |
| SteveRiley | shadeslayer: ah yes, okie. enjoy. | 22:54 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: janitor still not online? | 22:54 |
| yofel | no, bug 1071562 | 22:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1071562 in Launchpad itself "UEFI signing failures cause binaries to be republished continuously" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071562 | 22:54 |
| shadeslayer | @_@ | 22:55 |
| yofel | yeah | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer | can I just go ahead and upload kdevelop to raring? | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer | without any QA :p | 22:56 |
| yofel | just do it, if it fails it'll be stuck in -proposed, if not, it's worth testing | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 22:56 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: you DID testbuild at least? ^^ | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | can't | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | well | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | okay, will test build | 22:57 |
| yofel | ah, hard without a local repo, true | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | none of my servers have a raring pbuilder | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | need to make one | 22:58 |
| yofel | you could use ninjas, we still have ~800M left | 22:58 |
| shadeslayer | mmm | 22:58 |
| yofel | or staging | 22:58 |
| * shadeslayer chucks into ninjas | 22:58 | |
| shadeslayer | vim still doesn't recognize raring in the changelog | 22:59 |
| shadeslayer | :'( | 22:59 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: staging would be better | 22:59 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 22:59 |
| yofel | that has 7G left | 22:59 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 22:59 |
| yofel | if we had a proper delete button for PPA's we could make throw-away ones ^^ | 23:00 |
| shadeslayer | true | 23:00 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: actually, vim in quantal-proposed has raring support | 23:01 |
| shadeslayer | I'm on precise :p | 23:01 |
| yofel | oh | 23:01 |
| yofel | rmadison is kinda slow these days... | 23:02 |
| shadeslayer | E: No such script: /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/raring | 23:05 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 23:05 |
| yofel | oh yeah, that too ^^ | 23:05 |
| yofel | just pull debootstrap from raring, should work :P | 23:05 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 23:06 |
| shadeslayer | but I'm not going to do it on this server, it's production | 23:06 |
| shadeslayer | best not to mess stuff on production .... | 23:06 |
| yofel | well, you can copy a quantal basetgz and upgrade it | 23:06 |
| shadeslayer | anyone on stock precise ? | 23:12 |
| shadeslayer | you'd think when you ask people to test fixes on bug reports they'd atleast report back with test results .... | 23:13 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: packages for raring uploaded to staging PPA for test builds | 23:17 |
| shadeslayer | if it goes fine, I'll upload to raring | 23:17 |
| yofel | \o/ | 23:17 |
| shadeslayer | scumbag brain, gets stuck on one song for days at times | 23:19 |
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