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Quintasanshadeslayer: ping02:01
Quintasanhttp://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/kubuntu-dev.html02:02
QuintasanY U EMPTY02:02
Tm_Tgood morning04:27
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RiddellI'm taking a holiday for a few days, see you later in the week10:07
yofel__have fun :)10:08
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apolwhy doesn't kde-gtk-config have previews? Is there any reason in kubuntu not to depend on gtk?11:52
apolapachelogger: ^? I see that you added that recently11:54
yofel__apol: the usual reason was ISO space, as we have oxygen-gtk there but nothing that uses it. So not having gtk there saves space and breaks nothing (except the examples)11:55
apolyofel__: is kubuntu still limited to CD size?11:56
yofel__we do have an arbitrary 1GiB limit. And space is better spent on translations than on gtk11:57
apolok..12:00
BluesKajHi all12:07
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kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1074643] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite sh... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1074643 (by Paul Hoell)12:24
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1046825] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2 failed to install/upgrade: lectura insuficiente en b... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046825 (by starky_00)13:27
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1031856] I tried to install Skype, and now I can't delete it or install others packages. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1031856 (by Norbert BudzyƄski)15:30
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1034986] vlc crashed with SIGABRT in __assert_fail_base() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1034986 (by Ricardo J. Moreira Teixeira)15:30
ScottK!apt15:41
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)15:41
ScottKTm_T: ^^^ really needs updating.15:41
ScottKAdept is removed from the archive and KPackageKit is called Apper now.15:42
Tm_TScottK: give suggestion which I can apply (:15:45
yofel__!muon15:45
ScottKAdept/Muon and KPackageKit/Apper15:45
ubottuMuon is the current Kubuntu package manager. Please see http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/introducing-qapt-and-the-muon-package-manager/ for an overview15:45
yofel__geh, what a link15:46
ScottKThat's a bit old too15:48
rbelem:-D17:48
rbelemthx guys17:48
ScottKHappy birthday rbelem.20:10
ScottK!apt20:11
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)20:11
* ScottK reminds Tm_T to get to it.20:11
ScottKyofel_: I propose we upload akonadi with the 4.9.3 SRU for quantal and not separately.20:11
yofel_ScottK: you mean use the same bug #?20:12
ScottKYes20:12
tsimpson!apt =~ /Adept/Muon/20:12
ubottuI'll remember that tsimpson20:12
tsimpson!apt =~ /KPackageKit/Apper/20:12
tsimpson!apt20:12
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)20:12
yofel_ok, I'll finish things in a bit. Only symbol updates left to do I think20:13
ScottKtsimpson: Thanks.20:13
tsimpson:)20:13
* ScottK imagines Tm_T must still be tired due to jetlag coming back from UDS.20:13
SteveRileyhallo all20:34
SteveRileynewegg decided to cancel my nexus 7 tablet order since i placed it from denmark -- "unusual" they said20:35
SteveRileyso i ordered one from someplace else, will be here on wednesday20:35
SteveRileysigh.20:35
SteveRileyeveryone recover from jetlag?20:35
ScottKSteveRiley: I'm currently on a flight to get some new jetlag.20:36
* ScottK loves wifi on planes.20:36
SteveRileyScottK: and yet, they tell you to switch off your bluetooth mouse. 2.4 GHz = 2.4 GHz regardless of source, right?20:37
ScottKWell, it's all a matter of what they've done EMC testing on.20:40
ScottKIt's not that it's known bad, but that it's unknown.20:41
ScottKOK.  Just about to shut down for landing.20:43
SteveRileyenjoy20:43
SteveRileyshadeslayer: when you have a moment, can you look at http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?60886-kde-telepathy-accounts-login-errors20:43
SteveRileyshadeslayer: i'm seeing the same problem on both my laptops, not sure if it's known or which package to file a bug against20:44
SteveRileyshadeslayer: for me, the problem is only with jabber. other protocols work fine.20:44
keithzgWith the Ubuntu side of things testing the Nexus 7, is there any testing of the N7 with Kubuntu Active that could/needs-to be done?20:52
keithzgI tripped over my housemate's cat the other day and cracked the screen, so I'm up for wiping mine and doing some testing :)20:52
Tm_TScottK: yeah, had to rotate my old rusty clock 23 hours back when I got home20:55
Tm_Tthat said, heading to sleep so have to look into those factoids tomorrow (:20:55
yofel_ok, now to finish 4.9.321:13
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kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1055114] three guest accounts on lightdm login screen after "sign out" @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1055114 (by Pascal Rosin)21:13
SteveRileykeithzg: yes, i've ordered a nexus 7 and it should arrive in a couple days. quintasan has the script to build an image.21:23
SteveRileythe installer completely wipes android and puts ubuntu on the bare metal.21:23
yofelyeah, only symbols to update21:27
yofel!testers21:27
ubottuTesting help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw21:27
yofel4.9.3 for quantal needs testing in ninjas21:27
SteveRileyplasma active sort of works, afiestas had it running on his nexus 7 last week. but there's something not right about how finger taps are interpreted. he's checking into that.21:28
yofelSteveRiley: Can you put android back on it? IIRC there was a way21:29
yofelI'll get a N7 myself till end of the week21:29
SteveRileyyofel: yup, that's also possible.21:29
SteveRileyall the flashing is done via fastboot, so it appears to be reasonably resistant to bricking21:29
yofelyeah, they did say that they didn't brick a single tab21:30
SteveRileythey showed 8 GB and 16 GB tablets. i've ordered a 32 GB tablet. i'll install the 16 GB image; the tablet guys said i should be able to resize2fs the partition to use the full space. no one's tried that before :)21:33
yofelresize2fs is how you flash the SD cards for raspberrypi boards21:35
yofelso shouldn't be a problem21:35
yofelI'll probably get the 32G version too, without SIM card support though21:36
SteveRileyyeah, i opted to go sim-less too. seattle is pretty much bathed in wi-fi. i can ride the bus all over downtown and hop on insecure wi-fi. people should be glad i'm not evil :)21:38
yofelnot as much here, but I can get internet over bluetooth and my mobile phone21:39
yofel4.9.3 done for raring too now21:46
yofelhm21:47
yofelQuintasan_: ping, 4.9.3 testing needed (and tell someone to add you to !testers)21:47
mparilloWhen you wrote 4.9.3 is done for raring, I went to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20121105/ but there are no 32-bit Raring ISOs yet, are there?21:49
keithzgyofel: that's one area where a Kubuntu Nexus 7 may have a big advantage over the stock Android install; the core OS doesn't really respect a bluetooth connection as an internet connection, so refuses to, for example, check email.21:50
yofelhm, don't think so, and with the milestone rework I'm not sure when they'll start building them21:51
yofelalso, 3.9.3 is currently only in the ninjas PPA21:51
yofelrelease is tomorrow, then it'll get into the archive21:51
yofelhm, we should probably watch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/ for system issues 21:52
mparilloThank you. Is an aternative to download the 13.04 server image ISO, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and will the 4.9.3 update get pushed?21:53
yofelin a few days after 4.9.3 got uploaded and passed -proposed, yes21:54
BluesKajyofel, I'll wait for that since I'm running 13.04 already21:54
yofelmparillo: actually, the dailies just failed to build22:04
mparilloThank you yofel, but BluesKaj is running 13.04 already. 64-bit, or hacked together somehow?22:05
yofelyou can always change 'quantal' to 'raring' in your /etc/apt/sources.list and dist-upgrade22:06
yofelunsupported, but only way right now22:06
yofel(I mean, unsupported, but it ~works)22:06
mparilloOpens with Libre Office, ugh when I click from Dolphin. Basically I should kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list from the Konsole, and do a global search and replace?22:11
yofelpretty much, or 'sudo sed 's/quantal/raring/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list' from konsole22:12
BluesKajmparillo, yeah ,started with the toolchain and edited sources.list ...so far so good22:12
yofelBluesKaj: well, WE didn't break anything yet :P22:12
yofel4.10 beta1 tagging is in 10 days, that'll be fun (except for the "make 40 kdegames packages" part -.-)22:13
BluesKajmparillo, I have a 12.10 fallback install on another partition22:14
mparilloThx, so do I. And thanks for the sed tip. Next is sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?22:17
yofelyep22:17
Quintasan_#@$%!#$!#%122:19
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QuintasanCurses22:19
yofel?22:19
Quintasanburndown charts are not up yet22:19
Quintasanand I'm still sitting here cursing libreoffice is somehow default for txt files22:20
Quintasanhow did that end up being the case?22:20
yofelthat's seem like a pattern somehow...22:20
yofelwe even patched txt support out of calligra22:20
Quintasanon my fresh qunatal install it uses libreoffice22:20
Quintasancurses22:20
yofelon my fresh quantal vm it uses kate, so I have no idea what happens there22:21
* yofel curses the symbolhelper in the meanwhile22:21
yofelSIGH22:24
yofelQuintasan: libmygpo-qt is cursed22:24
Quintasandid I break it?22:24
yofelno, the symbolshelper has a bug I think22:24
* Quintasan just did an update22:25
Quintasanand that's it22:25
yofelwas trying to upload your package into the archive, but I can't get the symbolsfile to work right22:25
yofelthe symbolshelper creates this for amd64 i386: (subst)_Znw{size_t}Pv@Base 1.0.622:26
yofeland then errors out in pbuilder with22:26
yofel- (subst)_Znw{size_t}Pv@Base 1.0.622:26
yofel+ _ZnwmPv@Base 1.0.6-0ubuntu122:26
yofeli386 is  _ZnwjPv@Base 1.0.6-0ubuntu122:26
yofelnow that's fun, m is unsigned long, j unsigned int. stupid gcc22:29
yofelSIGH (again)22:37
yofelwhy am I using pkgkde-symbolshelper to debug a program that doesn't use it? -.-22:38
mparilloIs this a serious warning: Failed to download http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-i386/Packages22:39
mparillo404  Not Found22:39
macomparillo: i think it just means there are no extras for raring yet22:41
yofelmparillo: comment the extras repository out, it doesn't yet have a raring pocket22:41
yofel(and won't have one for a while)22:41
macoextras is where stuff that's added post-release goes, right?22:42
yofelright22:42
macoyou can ignore it, but if you comment it out, apt-get update will run a couple seconds faster. depends how much you care about those coupe seconds22:42
yofelif you have 404's then it won't auto-regenerate the cache, which at least breaks bash completion for apt-cache (sudo apt-get check would manually re-gen that)22:44
shadeslayerSteveRiley: #kde-telepathy, I'm on vacation, will only be checking in occasionally22:53
yofelQuintasan: libmygpo uploaded, it didn't use the pkg-kde-tools yet. 22:53
SteveRileyshadeslayer: ah yes, okie. enjoy.22:54
shadeslayeryofel: janitor still not online?22:54
yofelno, bug 107156222:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1071562 in Launchpad itself "UEFI signing failures cause binaries to be republished continuously" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107156222:54
shadeslayer@_@22:55
yofelyeah22:55
shadeslayercan I just go ahead and upload kdevelop to raring?22:56
shadeslayerwithout any QA :p22:56
yofeljust do it, if it fails it'll be stuck in -proposed, if not, it's worth testing22:56
shadeslayercool22:56
yofelshadeslayer: you DID testbuild at least? ^^22:57
shadeslayercan't22:57
shadeslayerwell22:57
shadeslayerokay, will test build22:57
yofelah, hard without a local repo, true22:57
shadeslayernone of my servers have a raring pbuilder22:57
shadeslayerneed to make one22:58
yofelyou could use ninjas, we still have ~800M left22:58
shadeslayermmm22:58
yofelor staging22:58
* shadeslayer chucks into ninjas22:58
shadeslayervim still doesn't recognize raring in the changelog22:59
shadeslayer:'(22:59
yofelshadeslayer: staging would be better22:59
shadeslayerokay22:59
yofelthat has 7G left22:59
shadeslayer:D22:59
yofelif we had a proper delete button for PPA's we could make throw-away ones ^^23:00
shadeslayertrue23:00
yofelshadeslayer: actually, vim in quantal-proposed has raring support23:01
shadeslayerI'm on precise :p23:01
yofeloh23:01
yofelrmadison is kinda slow these days...23:02
shadeslayerE: No such script: /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/raring23:05
shadeslayer\o/23:05
yofeloh yeah, that too ^^23:05
yofeljust pull debootstrap from raring, should work :P23:05
shadeslayeryeah23:06
shadeslayerbut I'm not going to do it on this server, it's production23:06
shadeslayerbest not to mess stuff on production ....23:06
yofelwell, you can copy a quantal basetgz and upgrade it23:06
shadeslayeranyone on stock precise ?23:12
shadeslayeryou'd think when you ask people to test fixes on bug reports they'd atleast report back with test results ....23:13
shadeslayeryofel: packages for raring uploaded to staging PPA for test builds23:17
shadeslayerif it goes fine, I'll upload to raring23:17
yofel\o/23:17
shadeslayerscumbag brain, gets stuck on one song for days at times23:19

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