[02:01] shadeslayer: ping [02:02] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/kubuntu-dev.html [02:02] Y U EMPTY [04:27] good morning === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ [10:07] I'm taking a holiday for a few days, see you later in the week [10:08] have fun :) === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw [11:52] why doesn't kde-gtk-config have previews? Is there any reason in kubuntu not to depend on gtk? [11:54] apachelogger: ^? I see that you added that recently [11:55] apol: the usual reason was ISO space, as we have oxygen-gtk there but nothing that uses it. So not having gtk there saves space and breaks nothing (except the examples) [11:56] yofel__: is kubuntu still limited to CD size? [11:57] we do have an arbitrary 1GiB limit. And space is better spent on translations than on gtk [12:00] ok.. [12:07] Hi all === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ [12:24] ::qt-bugs:: [1074643] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite sh... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1074643 (by Paul Hoell) [13:27] ::qt-bugs:: [1046825] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2 failed to install/upgrade: lectura insuficiente en b... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046825 (by starky_00) [15:30] ::qt-bugs:: [1031856] I tried to install Skype, and now I can't delete it or install others packages. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1031856 (by Norbert BudzyƄski) [15:30] ::qt-bugs:: [1034986] vlc crashed with SIGABRT in __assert_fail_base() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1034986 (by Ricardo J. Moreira Teixeira) [15:41] !apt [15:41] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE) [15:41] Tm_T: ^^^ really needs updating. [15:42] Adept is removed from the archive and KPackageKit is called Apper now. [15:45] ScottK: give suggestion which I can apply (: [15:45] !muon [15:45] Adept/Muon and KPackageKit/Apper [15:45] Muon is the current Kubuntu package manager. Please see http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/introducing-qapt-and-the-muon-package-manager/ for an overview [15:46] geh, what a link [15:48] That's a bit old too [17:48] :-D [17:48] thx guys [20:10] Happy birthday rbelem. [20:11] !apt [20:11] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE) [20:11] * ScottK reminds Tm_T to get to it. [20:11] yofel_: I propose we upload akonadi with the 4.9.3 SRU for quantal and not separately. [20:12] ScottK: you mean use the same bug #? [20:12] Yes [20:12] !apt =~ /Adept/Muon/ [20:12] I'll remember that tsimpson [20:12] !apt =~ /KPackageKit/Apper/ [20:12] !apt [20:12] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE) [20:13] ok, I'll finish things in a bit. Only symbol updates left to do I think [20:13] tsimpson: Thanks. [20:13] :) [20:13] * ScottK imagines Tm_T must still be tired due to jetlag coming back from UDS. [20:34] hallo all [20:35] newegg decided to cancel my nexus 7 tablet order since i placed it from denmark -- "unusual" they said [20:35] so i ordered one from someplace else, will be here on wednesday [20:35] sigh. [20:35] everyone recover from jetlag? [20:36] SteveRiley: I'm currently on a flight to get some new jetlag. [20:36] * ScottK loves wifi on planes. [20:37] ScottK: and yet, they tell you to switch off your bluetooth mouse. 2.4 GHz = 2.4 GHz regardless of source, right? [20:40] Well, it's all a matter of what they've done EMC testing on. [20:41] It's not that it's known bad, but that it's unknown. [20:43] OK. Just about to shut down for landing. [20:43] enjoy [20:43] shadeslayer: when you have a moment, can you look at http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?60886-kde-telepathy-accounts-login-errors [20:44] shadeslayer: i'm seeing the same problem on both my laptops, not sure if it's known or which package to file a bug against [20:44] shadeslayer: for me, the problem is only with jabber. other protocols work fine. [20:52] With the Ubuntu side of things testing the Nexus 7, is there any testing of the N7 with Kubuntu Active that could/needs-to be done? [20:52] I tripped over my housemate's cat the other day and cracked the screen, so I'm up for wiping mine and doing some testing :) [20:55] ScottK: yeah, had to rotate my old rusty clock 23 hours back when I got home [20:55] that said, heading to sleep so have to look into those factoids tomorrow (: [21:13] ok, now to finish 4.9.3 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:13] ::workspace-bugs:: [1055114] three guest accounts on lightdm login screen after "sign out" @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1055114 (by Pascal Rosin) [21:23] keithzg: yes, i've ordered a nexus 7 and it should arrive in a couple days. quintasan has the script to build an image. [21:23] the installer completely wipes android and puts ubuntu on the bare metal. [21:27] yeah, only symbols to update [21:27] !testers [21:27] Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw [21:27] 4.9.3 for quantal needs testing in ninjas [21:28] plasma active sort of works, afiestas had it running on his nexus 7 last week. but there's something not right about how finger taps are interpreted. he's checking into that. [21:29] SteveRiley: Can you put android back on it? IIRC there was a way [21:29] I'll get a N7 myself till end of the week [21:29] yofel: yup, that's also possible. [21:29] all the flashing is done via fastboot, so it appears to be reasonably resistant to bricking [21:30] yeah, they did say that they didn't brick a single tab [21:33] they showed 8 GB and 16 GB tablets. i've ordered a 32 GB tablet. i'll install the 16 GB image; the tablet guys said i should be able to resize2fs the partition to use the full space. no one's tried that before :) [21:35] resize2fs is how you flash the SD cards for raspberrypi boards [21:35] so shouldn't be a problem [21:36] I'll probably get the 32G version too, without SIM card support though [21:38] yeah, i opted to go sim-less too. seattle is pretty much bathed in wi-fi. i can ride the bus all over downtown and hop on insecure wi-fi. people should be glad i'm not evil :) [21:39] not as much here, but I can get internet over bluetooth and my mobile phone [21:46] 4.9.3 done for raring too now [21:47] hm [21:47] Quintasan_: ping, 4.9.3 testing needed (and tell someone to add you to !testers) [21:49] When you wrote 4.9.3 is done for raring, I went to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20121105/ but there are no 32-bit Raring ISOs yet, are there? [21:50] yofel: that's one area where a Kubuntu Nexus 7 may have a big advantage over the stock Android install; the core OS doesn't really respect a bluetooth connection as an internet connection, so refuses to, for example, check email. [21:51] hm, don't think so, and with the milestone rework I'm not sure when they'll start building them [21:51] also, 3.9.3 is currently only in the ninjas PPA [21:51] release is tomorrow, then it'll get into the archive [21:52] hm, we should probably watch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/ for system issues [21:53] Thank you. Is an aternative to download the 13.04 server image ISO, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and will the 4.9.3 update get pushed? [21:54] in a few days after 4.9.3 got uploaded and passed -proposed, yes [21:54] yofel, I'll wait for that since I'm running 13.04 already [22:04] mparillo: actually, the dailies just failed to build [22:05] Thank you yofel, but BluesKaj is running 13.04 already. 64-bit, or hacked together somehow? [22:06] you can always change 'quantal' to 'raring' in your /etc/apt/sources.list and dist-upgrade [22:06] unsupported, but only way right now [22:06] (I mean, unsupported, but it ~works) [22:11] Opens with Libre Office, ugh when I click from Dolphin. Basically I should kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list from the Konsole, and do a global search and replace? [22:12] pretty much, or 'sudo sed 's/quantal/raring/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list' from konsole [22:12] mparillo, yeah ,started with the toolchain and edited sources.list ...so far so good [22:12] BluesKaj: well, WE didn't break anything yet :P [22:13] 4.10 beta1 tagging is in 10 days, that'll be fun (except for the "make 40 kdegames packages" part -.-) [22:14] mparillo, I have a 12.10 fallback install on another partition [22:17] Thx, so do I. And thanks for the sed tip. Next is sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? [22:17] yep [22:19] #@$%!#$!#%1 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [22:19] Curses [22:19] ? [22:19] burndown charts are not up yet [22:20] and I'm still sitting here cursing libreoffice is somehow default for txt files [22:20] how did that end up being the case? [22:20] that's seem like a pattern somehow... [22:20] we even patched txt support out of calligra [22:20] on my fresh qunatal install it uses libreoffice [22:20] curses [22:21] on my fresh quantal vm it uses kate, so I have no idea what happens there [22:21] * yofel curses the symbolhelper in the meanwhile [22:24] SIGH [22:24] Quintasan: libmygpo-qt is cursed [22:24] did I break it? [22:24] no, the symbolshelper has a bug I think [22:25] * Quintasan just did an update [22:25] and that's it [22:25] was trying to upload your package into the archive, but I can't get the symbolsfile to work right [22:26] the symbolshelper creates this for amd64 i386: (subst)_Znw{size_t}Pv@Base 1.0.6 [22:26] and then errors out in pbuilder with [22:26] - (subst)_Znw{size_t}Pv@Base 1.0.6 [22:26] + _ZnwmPv@Base 1.0.6-0ubuntu1 [22:26] i386 is _ZnwjPv@Base 1.0.6-0ubuntu1 [22:29] now that's fun, m is unsigned long, j unsigned int. stupid gcc [22:37] SIGH (again) [22:38] why am I using pkgkde-symbolshelper to debug a program that doesn't use it? -.- [22:39] Is this a serious warning: Failed to download http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-i386/Packages [22:39] 404 Not Found [22:41] mparillo: i think it just means there are no extras for raring yet [22:41] mparillo: comment the extras repository out, it doesn't yet have a raring pocket [22:41] (and won't have one for a while) [22:42] extras is where stuff that's added post-release goes, right? [22:42] right [22:42] you can ignore it, but if you comment it out, apt-get update will run a couple seconds faster. depends how much you care about those coupe seconds [22:44] if you have 404's then it won't auto-regenerate the cache, which at least breaks bash completion for apt-cache (sudo apt-get check would manually re-gen that) [22:53] SteveRiley: #kde-telepathy, I'm on vacation, will only be checking in occasionally [22:53] Quintasan: libmygpo uploaded, it didn't use the pkg-kde-tools yet. [22:54] shadeslayer: ah yes, okie. enjoy. [22:54] yofel: janitor still not online? [22:54] no, bug 1071562 [22:54] Launchpad bug 1071562 in Launchpad itself "UEFI signing failures cause binaries to be republished continuously" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071562 [22:55] @_@ [22:55] yeah [22:56] can I just go ahead and upload kdevelop to raring? [22:56] without any QA :p [22:56] just do it, if it fails it'll be stuck in -proposed, if not, it's worth testing [22:56] cool [22:57] shadeslayer: you DID testbuild at least? ^^ [22:57] can't [22:57] well [22:57] okay, will test build [22:57] ah, hard without a local repo, true [22:57] none of my servers have a raring pbuilder [22:58] need to make one [22:58] you could use ninjas, we still have ~800M left [22:58] mmm [22:58] or staging [22:58] * shadeslayer chucks into ninjas [22:59] vim still doesn't recognize raring in the changelog [22:59] :'( [22:59] shadeslayer: staging would be better [22:59] okay [22:59] that has 7G left [22:59] :D [23:00] if we had a proper delete button for PPA's we could make throw-away ones ^^ [23:00] true [23:01] shadeslayer: actually, vim in quantal-proposed has raring support [23:01] I'm on precise :p [23:01] oh [23:02] rmadison is kinda slow these days... [23:05] E: No such script: /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/raring [23:05] \o/ [23:05] oh yeah, that too ^^ [23:05] just pull debootstrap from raring, should work :P [23:06] yeah [23:06] but I'm not going to do it on this server, it's production [23:06] best not to mess stuff on production .... [23:06] well, you can copy a quantal basetgz and upgrade it [23:12] anyone on stock precise ? [23:13] you'd think when you ask people to test fixes on bug reports they'd atleast report back with test results .... [23:17] yofel: packages for raring uploaded to staging PPA for test builds [23:17] if it goes fine, I'll upload to raring [23:17] \o/ [23:19] scumbag brain, gets stuck on one song for days at times