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| dholbach | good morning | 07:22 |
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| ESphynx | Good morning Dan =) | 07:37 |
| dholbach | hey ESphynx | 07:43 |
| ESphynx | what's shaking :) | 07:44 |
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| ajmitch | morning dholbach | 09:23 |
| dholbach | hey ajmitch | 09:23 |
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| geser | Hi ajmitch and dholbach | 09:51 |
| dholbach | hi geser | 09:59 |
| highvoltage | hello everyone | 10:04 |
| Laney | greetings | 10:04 |
| lenios | does anybody know where to find why a package has been removed for ubuntu repositories? i just found luma package has been removed from quantal repositories and i'm trying to find why | 10:49 |
| Laney | lenios: go to http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<yourpackagename>/+publishinghistory and expand the "Deleted" entry | 10:50 |
| lenios | thank you for the info | 10:53 |
| lenios | there's only a Deleted on 2012-06-20 by Colin Watson Deleted on 2012-06-20 by Colin Watson linking to https://bugs.launchpad.net/widelands/+bug/676953 which doesn't look related... | 10:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 676953 in widelands "Revise the map pool" [Wishlist,Fix released] | 10:54 |
| lenios | does cjwatson have a clue on this? | 10:55 |
| Laney | it says Debian bug #whatever | 10:56 |
| Laney | so you should go to http://bugs.debian.org/<that number> | 10:56 |
| lenios | why is it linking to a launchpad bug? | 10:56 |
| maxb | Erroneous automatic linkification of "bug NNNNNN" I would guess | 10:56 |
| lenios | yes | 10:57 |
| Laney | indeed | 10:57 |
| lenios | http://bugs.debian.org/676953 is indeed related | 10:58 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 676953 in ftp.debian.org "RM: luma -- RoQA; qt3" [Normal,Open] | 10:58 |
| lenios | thanks for the help :) | 11:00 |
| cjwatson | any time you see "(From Debian)" at the start of a removal comment, that indicates semi-automatic propagation of a removal from Debian | 11:00 |
| cjwatson | you shouldn't assume I put any thought into it beyond checking that it didn't have any reverse-dependencies in Ubuntu | 11:01 |
| lenios | yes, but there's an erroneous bug link | 11:01 |
| cjwatson | can't help that | 11:01 |
| lenios | sorry about that | 11:01 |
| lenios | i should have thought longer | 11:02 |
| cjwatson | (well, in principle I could help that, by submitting a branch to LP to change the linkification of "Debian bug ..." - but I'm unlikely to get round to that) | 11:03 |
| lenios | .j #luma | 11:06 |
| lenios | oops! | 11:06 |
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| ricotz | debfx, hi :) | 13:03 |
| ricotz | debfx, i am hoping you will find some time to push some updates for virtualbox | 13:04 |
| debfx | ricotz: my motivation to work on virtualbox has kind of dropped since version 4.2 is not DFSG-free anymore | 13:25 |
| debfx | I have prepared some fixes for quantal but not sure if I'll maintain it beyond that | 13:25 |
| ricotz | debfx, oh :\, havent seen that, updating to 4.1.22 is the most you will do then? | 13:29 |
| debfx | ricotz: virtualbox constantly needs updates for new kernel and XServer versions so keeping an old version in the archive is not an option | 13:31 |
| ricotz | debfx, right, backporting the 3.7 and 1.13 bits from 4.2 are surely a pita then? | 13:31 |
| debfx | I would think so and it will become more difficult | 13:34 |
| ricotz | i see, this doesnt sound promising then | 13:37 |
| xnox | tumbleweed: broder has a librarian proxy? =) | 13:48 |
| xnox | tumbleweed: can it be like hosted on ubuntuwire? | 13:48 |
| tumbleweed | I think it's *very* slow | 13:49 |
| tumbleweed | you have to walk a lot of SSPH records to generate a Packages file | 13:50 |
| tumbleweed | and then you can't sign it... | 13:50 |
| tumbleweed | but, if you were to archive the packages files, and SPPH records, you could make something pretty fast | 13:50 |
| cjwatson | yeah, I'd definitely recommend against trying to autogenerate Packages | 13:52 |
| tumbleweed | (context: historical Packages - a snapshot.ubuntu.com...) | 13:53 |
| xnox | tumbleweed: yeah the plan is to keep packages/dists as is (e.g. rsnapshot) bug fake pool/ by redirecting to the librarian. | 13:54 |
| xnox | s/bug/but/ | 13:54 |
| tumbleweed | sounds workable | 13:54 |
| xnox | tumbleweed: does ubuntuwire have space fore rsnapshot dists/ ? | 13:55 |
| tumbleweed | xnox: #ubuntuwire. How much space are we talking about? | 13:55 |
| xnox | tumbleweed: good point. I have a workitem to estimate space needs =) | 13:56 |
| alo21 | how do I know if I should make a sync or a merge? | 18:13 |
| Laney | you have to analyse the changes Ubuntu made in the previous version and figure out whether they are still needed | 18:17 |
| alo21 | Laney: for example? | 18:18 |
| Laney | hmm? | 18:18 |
| achiang | is it acceptable to file sync requests yet? (iow, is the archive open) | 18:18 |
| jtaylor | alo21: for example openttd | 18:18 |
| jtaylor | (which I'm just looking at) | 18:19 |
| Laney | achiang: yeah | 18:19 |
| achiang | Laney: thanks | 18:19 |
| jtaylor | alo21: it has an ubuntu diff to handle fontconfig2.10 | 18:19 |
| jtaylor | debian does not need it yet but the issue was forwarded | 18:19 |
| jtaylor | now a new version is in experimental which fixes the issue | 18:20 |
| jtaylor | so the diff can be dropped -> sync | 18:20 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: to know if the new version (in debian) fixes the bug, I should look the changelog. Right? | 18:21 |
| jtaylor | alo21: thats the first place to look | 18:21 |
| jtaylor | but you must make sure it is really fixed properly | 18:22 |
| jtaylor | for that you check the change and the ubuntu diff | 18:22 |
| jtaylor | and test it | 18:22 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: i am looking for a package (https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html) here | 18:23 |
| jtaylor | why do changes generated from syncpackage not include the full diff to debian (like when you merge with -v<last-ubu-version>? | 18:27 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: for example the package picard-tools. where is the debdiff? | 18:33 |
| jtaylor | alo21: you download the packages and use debdiff | 18:35 |
| jtaylor | or use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+localpackagediffs | 18:35 |
| jtaylor | but its normally much slower | 18:36 |
| jtaylor | you can also quickly get the ubuntu diff from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/picard-tools/+changelog | 18:36 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: ok | 18:36 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: here are two picard-tools' changelog (debian: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/picard-tools/current/changelog and LP: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/picard-tools/+changelog) | 18:44 |
| alo21 | I think that in this case I should make a sync request | 18:44 |
| alo21 | 1) the bugs were fixed in debian too 2) the ubuntu's package is old | 18:45 |
| alo21 | am I right? | 18:45 |
| jtaylor | yes looks syncable | 18:46 |
| jtaylor | but testbuild it first | 18:46 |
| alo21 | jtaylor: why? It comes directly from debian, without any chages | 18:46 |
| jtaylor | you still need to test it | 18:47 |
| jtaylor | just because it builds in debian does not mean it does in ubuntu | 18:47 |
| jtaylor | there are plenty of differences | 18:47 |
| jtaylor | especially with java | 18:47 |
| jtaylor | debian uses java6 as default raring has java7 | 18:47 |
| alo21 | if the buid fails, I should change some files. Where do I have to upload it? | 18:48 |
| jtaylor | you put the changes in a bug or a bzr branch and ask for sponsorship | 18:49 |
| alo21 | ok. thanks | 18:49 |
| ScottK | jtaylor: You should be aware that +changelog on LP is not a full changelog. Only the changelog bits that LP saw in a changes file (so given the lack of -v for syncs a lot is often missing) | 19:03 |
| jtaylor | yes I know, I forgot to mention that | 19:04 |
| jtaylor | its still one of the fastest ways to get the debdiff of an ubuntu only change which usually have no skipped versions | 19:04 |
| jtaylor | you ahve to be more careful with merges | 19:05 |
| ScottK | There is also http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/p/picard-tools/picard-tools_1.46-1ubuntu1/changelog | 19:06 |
| ScottK | That leads to the actual package changelog. | 19:06 |
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| bdrung | xnox: "Fix 50 shades of python2,3 brokenness with cdbs." really? | 21:27 |
| bdrung | xnox: http://www.firebox.com/product/5464/50-Shades-of-Gray-Book | 21:30 |
| ESphynx | whhhatt | 22:14 |
| ESphynx | support for resizing is being removed from parted? wtf | 22:14 |
| ESphynx | If e2fsprogs is a better way to do it why doesn't parted usse the e2fs libraries and/or code and/or utilities??? | 22:14 |
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