| rickbol_ | does ubuntustudio include an app that can rip a dvd? I don't see handbrake. | 01:36 |
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| holstein | rickbol_: i would just search the package manager of your choice | 01:37 |
| holstein | i would consider using https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots | 01:39 |
| holstein | rickbol_: looks like acidrip is in the default ubuntu repos that ubuntustudio and all the other variants share | 01:40 |
| anto | hello everyone | 01:46 |
| anto | could you please advice me the best way to rip or shrink a DVD to hard disc or burn it directly from live cd? | 01:47 |
| holstein | anto: i would try #ubuntu | 01:47 |
| holstein | we are usually more about creating new content here | 01:47 |
| holstein | anything that would work for ubuntu would work for ubuntustudio | 01:48 |
| holstein | i dont think we include any ripping tools on the live CD | 01:48 |
| holstein | maybe the avlinux live CD has those tools | 01:48 |
| anto | thanks holstein mybe I missed the poin, what is the difference to going to ubuntu? | 01:48 |
| holstein | anto: more support | 01:48 |
| holstein | anto: more users to ask | 01:48 |
| anto | oh I see! | 01:49 |
| holstein | anto: we are not allowed to ship dvd support with any ubuntu by default | 01:49 |
| holstein | best case, i would think you could add a few packages and "rip" a dvd | 01:49 |
| holstein | though, that is not legal in my area, so i have not tried it in ages | 01:49 |
| anto | I read Ubuntu Studio is the best for multimedia | 01:49 |
| holstein | anto: you are not doing mulitmedia though | 01:50 |
| holstein | anto: you are changing the format of a packaged product | 01:50 |
| anto | ah now is more clear thanks | 01:50 |
| holstein | we have access to the same tool in ubuntu that would make that possible | 01:50 |
| holstein | anto: nothing about linux/ubuntu/ubuntustudio makes that dvd not supported | 01:50 |
| holstein | anto: its the dvd codecs that are licensed in a way that we cannot release them | 01:51 |
| anto | thanks I understand | 01:51 |
| holstein | anto: i would install ubuntustudio or something lighter to a USB stick | 01:51 |
| holstein | anto: i would install the lib-dvd stuff | 01:51 |
| holstein | !dvd | 01:51 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 01:51 |
| holstein | i would try something like handbrake via https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots or acidrip from the repos | 01:52 |
| holstein | OR, i would look for a live cd that might support that. maybe a mint spin, or avlinux | 01:53 |
| anto | a live cd is the best option for me | 01:53 |
| holstein | anto: sure, then try a mint spin, or maybe avlinux.. or a distro that is not "legal".. or make your own | 01:55 |
| holstein | anto: maybe a suse one with the online suse studio | 01:55 |
| holstein | anto: or, think about why we do not have such a live CD, and maybe just ask the conten creator for the product in the format you want | 01:55 |
| anto | not your fault guys | 01:56 |
| Flamethrower | hey everyone. Long time since I used an IRC room | 07:17 |
| Flamethrower | how you all doing? | 07:18 |
| gordonjcp | ugh, XFCE is just unusable | 08:03 |
| z0dd | little problem: i wish to style nautilus toolbar but window manager styles seem not to affect it. solutions? | 08:18 |
| gordonjcp | doesn't xfce use thunar? | 08:54 |
| gordonjcp | right, I've given Linux audio my once-a-year shot | 08:54 |
| gordonjcp | I can't put up with XFCE and its teeny-tiny blurry fonts, and there are still no PC-based sequencers | 08:55 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: You're free to use any desktop system you like | 09:02 |
| gordonjcp | zequence: I might stick Unity back on | 09:03 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: What do you mean by there not being PC-based sequencers? | 09:03 |
| gordonjcp | zequence: nothing usable | 09:03 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: Well, you can always help improve the ones that exist | 09:04 |
| gordonjcp | zequence: the thing is, I do music-y stuff as a hobby | 09:04 |
| gordonjcp | software development is a major part of my job | 09:04 |
| gordonjcp | this is why the music software I've already written is so unmaintained | 09:04 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: Did you try Ardourd3? And what kind of music are you making? | 09:05 |
| gordonjcp | zequence: mostly electronica, industrial stuff | 09:05 |
| gordonjcp | I haven't tried Ardour 3 for a while, but the last time I did it was terrible | 09:06 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: Ok, so you need samples and instruments. I'm doing something in those realms myself, but I'm only ever using puredata | 09:06 |
| gordonjcp | zequence: I have samples and instruments | 09:06 |
| gordonjcp | more than I could possibly ever need | 09:06 |
| gordonjcp | what I don't have is a sequencer | 09:06 |
| zequence | I find commercial sequencers less tha adequate for what I want to do | 09:06 |
| zequence | Since, what I do is very much live based, and involves a bit of improvisation | 09:07 |
| gordonjcp | seq24 is quite flexible for that | 09:07 |
| gordonjcp | I love being able to just gate patterns on and off with the keyboard | 09:08 |
| zequence | I don't like having to be confined to the boundaries a sequencer puts on you | 09:08 |
| gordonjcp | I don't like how unstable PC-based sequencers are | 09:08 |
| gordonjcp | they just can't keep time | 09:08 |
| gordonjcp | take *any* sequencer, commercial or open-source, running on any OS, program in a snare rush | 09:08 |
| zequence | I've had some problems with alsa midi, and an external module | 09:09 |
| gordonjcp | sounds like someone tipping turnips off a lorry | 09:09 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: Do you ever feel like you get to do the music you want to make? | 09:09 |
| gordonjcp | zequence: yes, but not when I involve computers | 09:10 |
| zequence | If not, I would probably look for options on how to improve that situation. For me, it was puredata. | 09:10 |
| gordonjcp | apart from my Atari ST, which Just Plain Works | 09:10 |
| gordonjcp | zequence: I tried puredata but I just don't understand it | 09:12 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: supercollider then? | 09:16 |
| gordonjcp | zequence: again, I don't really know what I'd use it for | 09:18 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: Well, what do you use a sequencer for? Controlling stuff, no? | 09:19 |
| gordonjcp | yes | 09:20 |
| gordonjcp | but supercollider and puredata look like they're more for synthesis | 09:20 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: I'd say good for both. But, no linearity, until you create it | 09:23 |
| gordonjcp | right, but then that means I have to sit and grind code | 09:30 |
| gordonjcp | which I don't want to do | 09:30 |
| gordonjcp | the whole point of sitting down to fiddle about with music stuff is to take a break from sitting bashing out code | 09:30 |
| gordonjcp | at present there seems to be no way to do that, without firing up the Atari ST | 09:31 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: Ever thought about just playing the piano? | 09:32 |
| z0dd | @gordonjcp, thank you, didn't know thunar. i come from nautilus under linux mint. now enabled, works perfectly. thanx | 09:33 |
| zequence | z0dd: Thunar is the default file manager in XFCE, but in Ubuntu Studio, we replaced it with Nautilus | 09:35 |
| gordonjcp | zequence: I just don't get why an Alesis MMT8 with a little 4MHz microcontroller can maintain solid timing but a PC with a 4GHz processor, clocked 1000 times faster with 64-bit words instead of 8-bit, can't even get close | 09:35 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: How do you notice this? By ear? If I can add stuff to a prerecorded track, that was recorded to a specific time, ranging about 30 min or more, and being able to add stuff to it, on time, not noticing any deviations, is that not good enough? | 09:37 |
| z0dd | zequence: why, if i can? thunar appears to be faster and more eyecandy, standard based and lightweight | 09:40 |
| zequence | z0dd: I'm not advicing on your choice of file manager. Just informing | 09:41 |
| gordonjcp | zequence: yes, by ear | 09:41 |
| gordonjcp | I know a lot of the jitter is down to the inherent granularity of MIDI | 09:42 |
| gordonjcp | but that tends to give you the same offset all the time | 09:42 |
| z0dd | zequence: obviously, lol, just to ask ;) | 09:42 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: We did add timer stuff to 12.10. Don't know if it's properly configured, so it's active. On 12.04 right now myself | 09:43 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: Might help reduce jitter. But, in my experience, alsa midi is what causes most of it. And, especially with external devices | 09:44 |
| zequence | jack midi was a lot easier to work with. I was able to record some stuff from my Roland XV-5050. Connected through usb | 09:45 |
| zequence | I was using Ardour3 for that (last year) | 09:45 |
| zequence | Don't know how much usb plays a role | 09:45 |
| zequence | I'm only concerned with what the music sounds like though | 09:46 |
| zequence | Don't know the internals of jack and alsa midi, so I can't really say what makes the difference | 09:47 |
| gordonjcp | oh man, USB MIDI is the *pits* | 09:47 |
| gordonjcp | I have this USB MIDI cable that I can basically only use for patch dumps | 09:48 |
| gordonjcp | it actually tries to interpret MIDI data in and out, rather than just passing on raw bytes | 09:55 |
| gordonjcp | so it does pointless nonsense like expanding running status into full messages | 09:55 |
| werto | o/ * | 10:44 |
| zequence | gordonjcp: Don't know how much difference it would make for you, but if you know about this http://wiki.linuxmusicians.com/doku.php?id=system_configuration#hardware_timers | 11:08 |
| zequence | Ubuntu Studio 12.10 has added the timer permission rules | 11:08 |
| zequence | But, the max_user_freq is not set to 3072, which seems to be the recommended value | 11:09 |
| fabzor3 | hi all | 11:33 |
| XRS1 | welcome | 11:41 |
| snevzor | hello | 17:47 |
| snevzor | a friend just installed ubuntu studio 12.10 | 17:48 |
| snevzor | but he can't install anything | 17:48 |
| snevzor | seems like conflicting ppa's out of the box... | 17:49 |
| snevzor | but I can't seem to figure it out | 17:49 |
| holstein | snevzor: there are no PPA's | 18:02 |
| holstein | snevzor: the packages are all in the repos | 18:02 |
| holstein | snevzor: i would open a terminal and ping something... ping google.come | 18:02 |
| holstein | snevzor: i would open a terminal and ping something... ping google.com | 18:02 |
| holstein | see that the system is online.. then i would try | 18:02 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 18:02 |
| holstein | see that that completes without errors | 18:03 |
| holstein | then, try and install something and share the errors | 18:03 |
| holstein | snevzor: there are no PPA's installed | 18:03 |
| studio-user238 | hello | 18:57 |
| holstein | o/ | 18:58 |
| studio-user238 | Trying to get my display link to work | 18:58 |
| studio-user238 | Anybody ever done one? | 18:59 |
| Unit193 | Display link? | 18:59 |
| studio-user238 | usb to VGA | 18:59 |
| holstein | never used that.. what is the device? do you see it in the output of lsusb? | 19:00 |
| studio-user238 | lusb? | 19:02 |
| studio-user238 | is that a command | 19:02 |
| holstein | studio-user238: thats where i would start... assuming you havent used that device in linux before | 19:02 |
| holstein | open a terminal and run "lsusb".. see if its listed | 19:03 |
| studio-user238 | meaning? | 19:03 |
| holstein | studio-user238: meaning, you type, or copy paste the command "lsusb" into a terminal, and hit the enter key | 19:03 |
| holstein | you'll see some text.. | 19:03 |
| holstein | you'll want to look and see if the usb to vga device is listed there.. you can share the output if you need help enterpretting | 19:04 |
| holstein | !paste | 19:04 |
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| studio-user238 | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:3803 Standard Microsystems Corp. Bus 001 Device 004: ID 17e9:02ee Newnham Research Bus 002 Device 003: ID 17e9:02ee Newn | 19:04 |
| holstein | studio-user238: i would check out | 19:06 |
| holstein | !paste | studio-user238 | 19:07 |
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| holstein | so i can see the entire output, and you are not flooding | 19:07 |
| studio-user238 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1335515/ | 19:08 |
| rickbol | having slow video performance on this dell d630. It has the recommended NVIDIA drivers installed, but it just can't be working correctly for this OS and C\GPU. | 19:09 |
| holstein | rickbol: have you tried with the vesa driver? i would trouble shoot that way.. even with the live CD ad "nomodeset".. you can learn something | 19:10 |
| rickbol | first symptom is a 3 - 5 second screen refresh w\CPU showing very busy when I switch virtual desktops, or even tabbing between terminal and browser or other app | 19:10 |
| holstein | studio-user238: 17e9:02ee Newnham Research is the device.. | 19:12 |
| rickbol | another symptom is firefox complaining: "Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so" libvdpau_nvidia.so doesn't exist. | 19:12 |
| holstein | rickbol: how is it with the vesa driver | 19:13 |
| holstein | ? | 19:13 |
| studio-user238 | Newnham Research usb device | 19:14 |
| studio-user238 | how to get it to work? | 19:15 |
| rickbol | holstein: haven't tried vesa driver yet, but I'm pretty sure 2D performance will be wanting (due to lack of hardware acceleration). | 19:17 |
| holstein | rickbol: im not suggesting you switch to vesa.. its more of a troubleshooting step | 19:18 |
| holstein | studio-user238: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5NjY is where i would start | 19:18 |
| rickbol | "Additional Drivers" list 6 different NVIDIA driver possibilities for my hardware, but the descriptions don't discriminate between them in any way that suggests which is the most recent. | 19:33 |
| holstein | i would try them and use what works best | 19:34 |
| holstein | !nvidia | 19:34 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 19:34 |
| holstein | i had 2 options.. i think i went with "stable" | 19:34 |
| rickbol | holstein: perhaps some improvement with vid performance by changing driver! thx for encouragement. | 19:48 |
| holstein | rickbol: yeah... some improvement is improvment :) | 19:48 |
| rickbol | also, put a bcm4322 (listed as BCM432b) and using the proprietary STA has proven (so far) better than bcm4311 or intel4965AGN | 19:50 |
| rickbol | for wifi | 19:50 |
| holstein | i didnt hve luck with the open one :/ | 19:51 |
| rickbol | is there anyway to increase the size of the area that allows resizing of windows. I can hardly "dial-in" the spot that lets me drag a window larger\smaller | 19:53 |
| holstein | rickbol: good question... i havent had to mess with that.. but i did notice.. i might just try looking in the theme.. though maybe Unit193 would know, or know where to ask/look | 19:55 |
| rickbol | I thought I saw something in the settings manager... looking again | 19:56 |
| rickbol | ALT+RightClick+drag will work fine if I can remember it. | 20:03 |
| holstein | rickbol: that might have been where i landed, now that i read that | 20:03 |
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| gordonjcp | what the hell | 23:58 |
| gordonjcp | there isn't a mail client installed by default, but there *is* xchat? | 23:58 |
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