[01:36] does ubuntustudio include an app that can rip a dvd? I don't see handbrake. [01:37] rickbol_: i would just search the package manager of your choice [01:39] i would consider using https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots [01:40] rickbol_: looks like acidrip is in the default ubuntu repos that ubuntustudio and all the other variants share [01:46] hello everyone [01:47] could you please advice me the best way to rip or shrink a DVD to hard disc or burn it directly from live cd? [01:47] anto: i would try #ubuntu [01:47] we are usually more about creating new content here [01:48] anything that would work for ubuntu would work for ubuntustudio [01:48] i dont think we include any ripping tools on the live CD [01:48] maybe the avlinux live CD has those tools [01:48] thanks holstein mybe I missed the poin, what is the difference to going to ubuntu? [01:48] anto: more support [01:48] anto: more users to ask [01:49] oh I see! [01:49] anto: we are not allowed to ship dvd support with any ubuntu by default [01:49] best case, i would think you could add a few packages and "rip" a dvd [01:49] though, that is not legal in my area, so i have not tried it in ages [01:49] I read Ubuntu Studio is the best for multimedia [01:50] anto: you are not doing mulitmedia though [01:50] anto: you are changing the format of a packaged product [01:50] ah now is more clear thanks [01:50] we have access to the same tool in ubuntu that would make that possible [01:50] anto: nothing about linux/ubuntu/ubuntustudio makes that dvd not supported [01:51] anto: its the dvd codecs that are licensed in a way that we cannot release them [01:51] thanks I understand [01:51] anto: i would install ubuntustudio or something lighter to a USB stick [01:51] anto: i would install the lib-dvd stuff [01:51] !dvd [01:51] Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [01:52] i would try something like handbrake via https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots or acidrip from the repos [01:53] OR, i would look for a live cd that might support that. maybe a mint spin, or avlinux [01:53] a live cd is the best option for me [01:55] anto: sure, then try a mint spin, or maybe avlinux.. or a distro that is not "legal".. or make your own [01:55] anto: maybe a suse one with the online suse studio [01:55] anto: or, think about why we do not have such a live CD, and maybe just ask the conten creator for the product in the format you want [01:56] not your fault guys [07:17] hey everyone. Long time since I used an IRC room [07:18] how you all doing? [08:03] ugh, XFCE is just unusable [08:18] little problem: i wish to style nautilus toolbar but window manager styles seem not to affect it. solutions? [08:54] doesn't xfce use thunar? [08:54] right, I've given Linux audio my once-a-year shot [08:55] I can't put up with XFCE and its teeny-tiny blurry fonts, and there are still no PC-based sequencers [09:02] gordonjcp: You're free to use any desktop system you like [09:03] zequence: I might stick Unity back on [09:03] gordonjcp: What do you mean by there not being PC-based sequencers? [09:03] zequence: nothing usable [09:04] gordonjcp: Well, you can always help improve the ones that exist [09:04] zequence: the thing is, I do music-y stuff as a hobby [09:04] software development is a major part of my job [09:04] this is why the music software I've already written is so unmaintained [09:05] gordonjcp: Did you try Ardourd3? And what kind of music are you making? [09:05] zequence: mostly electronica, industrial stuff [09:06] I haven't tried Ardour 3 for a while, but the last time I did it was terrible [09:06] gordonjcp: Ok, so you need samples and instruments. I'm doing something in those realms myself, but I'm only ever using puredata [09:06] zequence: I have samples and instruments [09:06] more than I could possibly ever need [09:06] what I don't have is a sequencer [09:06] I find commercial sequencers less tha adequate for what I want to do [09:07] Since, what I do is very much live based, and involves a bit of improvisation [09:07] seq24 is quite flexible for that [09:08] I love being able to just gate patterns on and off with the keyboard [09:08] I don't like having to be confined to the boundaries a sequencer puts on you [09:08] I don't like how unstable PC-based sequencers are [09:08] they just can't keep time [09:08] take *any* sequencer, commercial or open-source, running on any OS, program in a snare rush [09:09] I've had some problems with alsa midi, and an external module [09:09] sounds like someone tipping turnips off a lorry [09:09] gordonjcp: Do you ever feel like you get to do the music you want to make? [09:10] zequence: yes, but not when I involve computers [09:10] If not, I would probably look for options on how to improve that situation. For me, it was puredata. [09:10] apart from my Atari ST, which Just Plain Works [09:12] zequence: I tried puredata but I just don't understand it [09:16] gordonjcp: supercollider then? [09:18] zequence: again, I don't really know what I'd use it for [09:19] gordonjcp: Well, what do you use a sequencer for? Controlling stuff, no? [09:20] yes [09:20] but supercollider and puredata look like they're more for synthesis [09:23] gordonjcp: I'd say good for both. But, no linearity, until you create it [09:30] right, but then that means I have to sit and grind code [09:30] which I don't want to do [09:30] the whole point of sitting down to fiddle about with music stuff is to take a break from sitting bashing out code [09:31] at present there seems to be no way to do that, without firing up the Atari ST [09:32] gordonjcp: Ever thought about just playing the piano? [09:33] @gordonjcp, thank you, didn't know thunar. i come from nautilus under linux mint. now enabled, works perfectly. thanx [09:35] z0dd: Thunar is the default file manager in XFCE, but in Ubuntu Studio, we replaced it with Nautilus [09:35] zequence: I just don't get why an Alesis MMT8 with a little 4MHz microcontroller can maintain solid timing but a PC with a 4GHz processor, clocked 1000 times faster with 64-bit words instead of 8-bit, can't even get close [09:37] gordonjcp: How do you notice this? By ear? If I can add stuff to a prerecorded track, that was recorded to a specific time, ranging about 30 min or more, and being able to add stuff to it, on time, not noticing any deviations, is that not good enough? [09:40] zequence: why, if i can? thunar appears to be faster and more eyecandy, standard based and lightweight [09:41] z0dd: I'm not advicing on your choice of file manager. Just informing [09:41] zequence: yes, by ear [09:42] I know a lot of the jitter is down to the inherent granularity of MIDI [09:42] but that tends to give you the same offset all the time [09:42] zequence: obviously, lol, just to ask ;) [09:43] gordonjcp: We did add timer stuff to 12.10. Don't know if it's properly configured, so it's active. On 12.04 right now myself [09:44] gordonjcp: Might help reduce jitter. But, in my experience, alsa midi is what causes most of it. And, especially with external devices [09:45] jack midi was a lot easier to work with. I was able to record some stuff from my Roland XV-5050. Connected through usb [09:45] I was using Ardour3 for that (last year) [09:45] Don't know how much usb plays a role [09:46] I'm only concerned with what the music sounds like though [09:47] Don't know the internals of jack and alsa midi, so I can't really say what makes the difference [09:47] oh man, USB MIDI is the *pits* [09:48] I have this USB MIDI cable that I can basically only use for patch dumps [09:55] it actually tries to interpret MIDI data in and out, rather than just passing on raw bytes [09:55] so it does pointless nonsense like expanding running status into full messages [10:44] o/ * [11:08] gordonjcp: Don't know how much difference it would make for you, but if you know about this http://wiki.linuxmusicians.com/doku.php?id=system_configuration#hardware_timers [11:08] Ubuntu Studio 12.10 has added the timer permission rules [11:09] But, the max_user_freq is not set to 3072, which seems to be the recommended value [11:33] hi all [11:41] welcome [17:47] hello [17:48] a friend just installed ubuntu studio 12.10 [17:48] but he can't install anything [17:49] seems like conflicting ppa's out of the box... [17:49] but I can't seem to figure it out [18:02] snevzor: there are no PPA's [18:02] snevzor: the packages are all in the repos [18:02] snevzor: i would open a terminal and ping something... ping google.come [18:02] snevzor: i would open a terminal and ping something... ping google.com [18:02] see that the system is online.. then i would try [18:02] sudo apt-get update [18:03] see that that completes without errors [18:03] then, try and install something and share the errors [18:03] snevzor: there are no PPA's installed [18:57] hello [18:58] o/ [18:58] Trying to get my display link to work [18:59] Anybody ever done one? [18:59] Display link? [18:59] usb to VGA [19:00] never used that.. what is the device? do you see it in the output of lsusb? [19:02] lusb? [19:02] is that a command [19:02] studio-user238: thats where i would start... assuming you havent used that device in linux before [19:03] open a terminal and run "lsusb".. see if its listed [19:03] meaning? [19:03] studio-user238: meaning, you type, or copy paste the command "lsusb" into a terminal, and hit the enter key [19:03] you'll see some text.. [19:04] you'll want to look and see if the usb to vga device is listed there.. you can share the output if you need help enterpretting [19:04] !paste [19:04] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [19:04] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:3803 Standard Microsystems Corp. Bus 001 Device 004: ID 17e9:02ee Newnham Research Bus 002 Device 003: ID 17e9:02ee Newn [19:06] studio-user238: i would check out [19:07] !paste | studio-user238 [19:07] studio-user238: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [19:07] so i can see the entire output, and you are not flooding [19:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1335515/ [19:09] having slow video performance on this dell d630. It has the recommended NVIDIA drivers installed, but it just can't be working correctly for this OS and C\GPU. [19:10] rickbol: have you tried with the vesa driver? i would trouble shoot that way.. even with the live CD ad "nomodeset".. you can learn something [19:10] first symptom is a 3 - 5 second screen refresh w\CPU showing very busy when I switch virtual desktops, or even tabbing between terminal and browser or other app [19:12] studio-user238: 17e9:02ee Newnham Research is the device.. [19:12] another symptom is firefox complaining: "Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so" libvdpau_nvidia.so doesn't exist. [19:13] rickbol: how is it with the vesa driver [19:13] ? [19:14] Newnham Research usb device [19:15] how to get it to work? [19:17] holstein: haven't tried vesa driver yet, but I'm pretty sure 2D performance will be wanting (due to lack of hardware acceleration). [19:18] rickbol: im not suggesting you switch to vesa.. its more of a troubleshooting step [19:18] studio-user238: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5NjY is where i would start [19:33] "Additional Drivers" list 6 different NVIDIA driver possibilities for my hardware, but the descriptions don't discriminate between them in any way that suggests which is the most recent. [19:34] i would try them and use what works best [19:34] !nvidia [19:34] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [19:34] i had 2 options.. i think i went with "stable" [19:48] holstein: perhaps some improvement with vid performance by changing driver! thx for encouragement. [19:48] rickbol: yeah... some improvement is improvment :) [19:50] also, put a bcm4322 (listed as BCM432b) and using the proprietary STA has proven (so far) better than bcm4311 or intel4965AGN [19:50] for wifi [19:51] i didnt hve luck with the open one :/ [19:53] is there anyway to increase the size of the area that allows resizing of windows. I can hardly "dial-in" the spot that lets me drag a window larger\smaller [19:55] rickbol: good question... i havent had to mess with that.. but i did notice.. i might just try looking in the theme.. though maybe Unit193 would know, or know where to ask/look [19:56] I thought I saw something in the settings manager... looking again [20:03] ALT+RightClick+drag will work fine if I can remember it. [20:03] rickbol: that might have been where i landed, now that i read that === randy is now known as Guest74941 === juliano is now known as Guest14085 [23:58] what the hell [23:58] there isn't a mail client installed by default, but there *is* xchat?