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xubuntu602just installed Xubuntu 32-bit on my old laptop but cannot connect wirelessly02:05
xubuntu602Totally new at this, thru windows I usually use the WEP key but not sure which options to choose to get Xubuntu connected for the first time02:11
soreauxubuntu602: do you see your AP in when you click on the network icon?02:12
xubuntu602Sorry, AP?02:13
soreauaccess point02:13
xubuntu602no, wireless networks "device not ready (firmware missing)"02:14
soreauhm, is it a broadcom maybe?02:14
xubuntu602yes02:14
soreau! broadcom02:14
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx02:14
cloudrfanyone home02:33
soreaunope02:35
cloudrfanyone wanna get involved in a cross project?02:35
brandinhesscloudrf: You on?02:35
cloudrfyeah brandin02:35
brandinhessOK02:35
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alex_____hi04:20
alex_____anybody home_04:20
alex_____anybody?04:20
well_laid_lawnprobably not04:21
alex_____heh, funny.04:21
well_laid_lawnI'm at work04:21
alex_____touché.04:21
alex_____I was wondering if anyone here knows anything about enabling hibernation and making it work.04:21
well_laid_lawnI don't use hibernation04:22
alex_____I screwed up when partitioning the drive while installing (set up a 2 MB swap partition).04:22
holsteinalex_____: should be working out of the box if it can (easily)04:22
alex_____Ah. ok.04:22
holsteinalex_____: what happens when you enable and try it04:22
unheedinglol 2mb swap04:22
alex_____I fixed the partitions (set up a swap partition with gparted after resizing the others).04:23
alex_____then followed the few msgs I found for enabling it on the menu.04:23
holsteinalex_____: what happens when you try it?..04:23
alex_____When I issue the pm-hibernate command it appears to hibernate, but when I turn on the netbook04:23
alex_____it's as if I rebooted.04:24
holsteinpersonally dont see the need.. waking from hibernation takes about as long as reboot04:24
holsteini use sleep or i just shutdown04:24
holsteinalex_____: it will seem like it reboots04:24
alex_____I need it because it's a netbook and I need to restart things where I left during my commute and sometimes I don't know how long I will be at my destination, so it saves some battery.04:25
holsteinalex_____: thats the point.. its not sleep... the state is saved to the disk and its powered off... not sleeping04:25
alex_____OK, let me see if we're on the same page:04:25
holsteinalex_____: i use sleep on my netbook.. dont see the need in hibernation, but what you are descirbing sounds like hibernation04:25
alex_____sleep/suspend = a semi-dormant state.04:25
holsteinalex_____: it'll look like its booting04:25
alex_____hibernation = save state to disk and power off.04:25
holsteinalex_____: seems correct to me.. what you are stating04:26
alex_____What I mean is that when I turn the computer back on, it starts from scratch - none of the apps I had running are open anymore. It's as if I did a shut-down instead of hibernate.04:26
holsteinalex_____: that doesnt sound like hibernate04:27
alex_____Precisely.04:27
holsteinalex_____: what i sould do is, get hibernate working on some machine.. see if its worth the hassle04:27
alex_____Before fixing the issue with the swap partition the OS would complain about not enough swap space, but04:27
holsteinalex_____: i personally think it takes about the same amount of time.. and i just use sleep because on my commute, i literaly do open the lid and work04:28
alex_____now it doesn't complain about anything.04:28
alex_____I have another netbook (an acer; this one's an asus) that worked right out of the box.04:28
alex_____That's why I'm wondering if I should just wipe the drive and reinstall xubuntu.04:28
holsteinalex_____: do what you want.. if its supported, it should be working now04:29
alex_____I agree. It should, but for some reason, it isn't working.04:29
holsteinalex_____: i would say the reason is hardware support04:29
holsteinor, configuration04:30
alex_____I'm going to try the reinstall tomorrow - it shouldn't take long, and I didn't install any software here yet, so it might take care of it.04:30
holsteinalex_____: the reinstall is an easy-ish step... otherwise, start posting logs to pastebin04:31
alex_____If it doesn't then I'll look into hw or config issues.04:31
alex_____I'm not terribly keen on easy-ish, but when you end up wasting so much time on stupid little things, easy-ish starts looking more and more efficient.04:31
holsteinsure.. installing takes 8 minutes... why not.. if its a fresh install anyways04:32
holsteini consider reinstallation a troubleshooting step :)04:32
alex_____Especially when a typo while setting up partitions ended up costing me the last 2 hours.04:32
alex_____hahhahahaa!04:32
alex_____That's a good one.04:32
alex_____I tried installing from a flash drive. took me about a day to find out that for some reason large flash drives screw up the installation.04:33
holsteinive always had deent luck with unetbootin, regardless of size04:34
holsteindecent*04:34
alex_____One image I got from the xubuntu.org web site would fall flat on its face while installing software and another one, from ubuntu.org started tripping on the ubi-partition step.04:34
alex_____that's when I read that someone was having the same issue because his computer had several other drives in it.04:35
alex_____But this only happened on the asus. My wife's acer was up and running in no time.04:35
holsteinnot sure.. i havent seen those issues.. i would maybe test the media before installing to or from04:35
holsteini have a few asus netbooks... 4 or so.. they all "just work" for the most part04:36
alex_____I would consider stealing it but my 5 year-old spilled apple juice on it and haven't been able to get the keyboard working again.04:36
holsteinnah... i like the asus's better04:37
alex_____All this was yesterday, while I'm staying at a friend's waiting for my electricity to return after the hurricane.04:37
holsteinthats a good use of time... sorry about your power04:37
alex_____I like this little asus a lot. I had mint with xfce in it, but for some reason it didn't feel nearly as smooth as xubuntu.04:37
alex_____I've been at this linux thing for 13 months now and most of it is still a mistery to me.04:38
alex_____thanks for the empathy :-)04:38
alex_____Her acer with xubuntu felt like a mac while my asus, which is faster and newer felt like windows 3.104:39
alex_____I'm going to call it a day. Thanks for your help!04:39
holsteinalex_____: anytime.. good luck with everything!04:39
alex_____thanks! good night!04:39
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PyruHi there, just curious if there is a "workaround" or a way to change the icon grid spacing in xubuntu? Cheers.08:27
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baizonPyru: this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204789908:33
Pyrubaizon, somewhat. I can't seem to locate the said file, nor can I find any settings in the specific theme folder, to change the grid spacing.08:51
PyruGot it, thanks08:57
xubuntu861hi there! xubuntu 12.10 problem: main menu editor does not save the changes i made. is this bug fixed?10:19
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nikolamcan you please re-test ix xfce weather plugin actually works for you?10:48
nikolamI was thinking it is because of my network timeouts/resolving, but I think not anymore.10:48
nikolamis all alternate CD functionality moved to desktop cd  in 12.10 then? Will alternate text install CD continue to be available?10:54
koegsnikolam: there is no alternate-cd *jedi-move*10:54
nikolamkoegs, I installed 12.04 from alternate cd as before10:55
koegsbut not in 12.1010:55
nikolamso is it plan that text install and everything will be integrated in desktop cd?10:55
nikolamin the future?10:55
knomenikolam, text installed won't be available, but all the other features will10:56
nikolamknome, because of disk space issues on CD or soemthing else.10:56
nikolamMaybe those wanting text install can use ubuntu text install cd and then add xubuntu-desktop or something to transform it to xubuntu?10:57
knomenikolam, as an implication of something else10:57
knomeor they can use the minimal ISO and install xubuntu-desktop10:57
nikolamknome, and they can have basically the same set of packages as xubuntu installed from desktop cd?10:58
knomenikolam, that will be exactly the same set10:58
nikolamI am not sure if ubuntu minimal recognize raid10:59
knomei don't know about that either10:59
nikolamI used alternate install till now, for just that reason.10:59
knomeis there some bugs in the desktop installer so you can't use it, or is it about maybe a bit too old hardware?11:00
nikolambut move to btrfs instead of md is also at hand.11:00
nikolamknome, no, I think I used it because of fotware Raid / md support exclusively.11:00
knomenikolam, raid support should be in 13.04 for the desktop installer11:00
nikolamalso alternate provides ways of fixing broken install. i think I used that once or twice11:01
knomethere will be other alternate ISO's, like lubuntu's11:01
nikolamknome, that is good to know. I installed last time on btrfs, is btrfs an option in Desktop install?11:01
knomenikolam, basically everything that was on alternate should land in desktop before the next lts11:02
knomenikolam, but the xubuntu team is not responsible for it, it's a ubuntu-driven project11:02
nikolamknome, that sounds great then.. wait.. till the next lts?11:02
knomethe next lts is 14.0411:02
knomebut i believe most stuff should be in for 13.0411:03
nikolamso we wait till 2014/04 to have software raid integrated to desktop .iso, by ubuntu11:03
nikolamI believe also.11:03
knomewe've been promised that it will land for 13.04, but don't count on it11:03
nikolamOk, I would just need to check if ubuntu minimal support md raid if someone asks.11:04
nikolamOtherwise, could update from lts11:04
nikolamUnless jumping ship to Btrfs already.11:04
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Guest31299what is the default xubuntu extraction tool? (for unzipping, etc) it seems to be missing all of the sudden12:04
Guest31299i guess the last update removed it from my ssytem12:05
Guest31299anyone?12:05
Guest31299nobody here???12:08
knome!patience12:08
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/12:08
Guest31299well knome, u did had the time to post that lol12:08
Guest31299just need the name for the default archive manager in xubuntu, so i can move on...12:09
koegsGuest31299: xarchiver, i think12:15
koegsGuest31299: or file-roller with unity/gnome12:15
koegsoh, in 12.10 default seems to be file-roller too12:16
Guest31299thnx12:18
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ruslan_osmanovHi. My file-roller fails to open an archive with Russian symbols. How do I make file-roller to deal with Unicode?13:38
ruslan_osmanovIt shows the files in archive. But when I try to open one, it outputs something like 'caution: filename not matched:  \?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\? 2/2\-2.jpg'13:40
GridCuberuslan_osmanov, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unzip/+bug/58096113:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 580961 in unzip (Ubuntu) "unzip fails to deal correctly with filename encodings" [High,Triaged]13:56
ruslan_osmanovIt seems it wouldn't be fixed13:58
GridCubethe "wont fix" is for natty13:59
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Cronos_hi14:33
GridCube!hi | Cronos_14:33
ubottuCronos_: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!14:33
Cronos_xubuntu is good on netbook?14:34
GridCubeyes, pretty good14:34
GridCube:) im using an intel classmate now, and it flies14:34
Cronos_perfect, i use aspire one zg514:34
Cronos_xubuntu support sim?14:35
GridCubewhat is sim?14:35
Cronos_smart phone card14:36
koegsu mean a internal 3g modem?14:36
GridCubei wouldnt know what you mean, if you need a 3g modem, then yes, but you need the modem, and thats the one that supports sims14:37
Cronos_ok i mean this 3G support, and for call or recive message as a smartphone?14:38
GridCubeyou might need a third party software for that, and i dont know of any14:39
Cronos_ok, thanks GridCube , i finish install i reboot bye!14:39
xubuntu747hi14:45
xubuntu747I need help14:45
xubuntu747anyone can help me please?14:45
pleia2!ask14:46
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:46
pleia2:)14:46
xubuntu747I've installed Xubuntu 12.10 from an USB as the only OS in my netbook and a black screen appears when I turn on my laptop asking me for login and pass in white letters, I enter mine but it says that is not correct, what should I do?14:49
P-JHi all, I wonder if someone might be able to help me with a monitor/docking station issue?16:25
P-JI'm trying to set a laptop so it can dock and undock correctly (dual screens when docked, laptop display when undocked).16:25
P-JThe problem I have is that unless I boot the laptop undocked, the laptop panel never appears in xrandr.16:26
P-JIf I boot docked, and then undock, I can't switch to the laptop display because it's not been 'found'.16:26
P-JIs there any way to 'force' a refresh of which displays are connected?16:26
P-JIf so I could use bash scripts and hotkeys to sort the displays out16:27
xubuntu995Hi! Does anyone know how to fix the wake issues of xfce? When my laptop goes to sleep and i try try to wake it freezes...16:27
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SpaceAviatorIs anyone else using xubuntu with a ATi HD series card?18:55
SpaceAviatornobody?19:01
knomeSpaceAviator, nobody who was active the last 6 minutes19:01
SpaceAviatorknome: hello sassy pants19:02
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hhhzzzarnnot me.19:44
madhuDear All20:32
madhuI am new to xubuntu from windows world and struggling to resolve an issue... any help and suggestion welcome->Question: I am having very bad youtube video in xubuntu chrome player.20:34
madhuanyone have similar issue? or anybody who have resolved it successfully?20:34
madhuplese let me know20:34
Unit193Bad how?  If the color is off, it's been said to disable hardware accel.20:35
madhuthe video is breaking / lagging20:35
madhuI tried to disable hw accel but not much of difference20:36
holsteinyou can try disabling compositing.. but i would look at the graphics driver.. i would also try the actual chrome browser.. if this is a 32bit system20:37
Unit193What flash package do you have?  And I'd recommend you enable html5 player at  http://youtube.com/html520:37
Unit193Above is very good, and VLC can play YouTube videos as well, if you have that.20:38
madhuI am using chrome browser. Tried disabling flash and enabled html5 - no much difference.20:40
madhuI tried to use VLC but nothing is showing20:40
madhuUnit193, not sure I am doing it right went to VLC and in the "stream" given the youtube link.. nothing happened.. is that wrong?20:41
madhuTrying the above link20:42
madhufor html520:42
Unit193Well, Media > Open Network Stream.  May want to install jockey-kde and see if it has any driver for your card.20:43
madhuhtml5 option didn't work. vlc - was trying the network stream only. think some prob with the driver.20:47
madhulet me check jockey-kde - is there a website20:47
Unit193!info jockey-kde20:50
ubottujockey-kde (source: jockey): KDE user interface and desktop integration for driver management. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-0ubuntu11 (quantal), package size 9 kB, installed size 112 kB20:50
madhusorry couldn't understand :(20:53
madhuI am bit newish to xubuntu so ... can you elaborate on how to get jockey-kde20:54
Unit193Using synaptic or whatever the default package manager is, you can also open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install jockey-kde20:57
madhutrying sudo21:00
madhuhi Unit193... I have installed jockey-kde but it is not appearing anywhere in the menu21:18
madhuam I missing something?21:18
holsteinmadhu: start it from the terminal21:18
Unit193Also check settings manager, though that should do it.21:19
de_levei've updated my xubuntu nad my wine with some windows games desnt work, does anyone know about that?21:21
de_levejust simple games, like bejeweled21:22
holsteinwindows games via wine?21:22
Unit193!appdb21:23
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help21:23
madhuHi holstein, thanks I am starting jockey-kde from termina21:24
knomemadhu, if you're using xubuntu, rather try jockey-gtk21:25
madhuHi Knome, jockey-kde didnt  work it crashed. Let me try -gtk21:28
madhujockey-kde is just listing out the custom drivers. How do I load other drivers for my graphics card/21:31
Unit193knome: GTK is software sources which is reported not to work as well. :P21:31
madhuUnit193 I am having ATI rv200 adaptor21:36
madhubut cannot find any drivers in jockey-gtk21:36
holstein!ait21:37
holstein!ati21:37
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto21:37
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holsteinmadhu: what are the errors when starting from terminal21:38
madhuholstein; when starting jockey-gtk from terminal I get the following error21:43
madhugtk-critical **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion 'icon_set != NULL' failed21:44
holsteinsometimes they still start though.. might need root21:44
holsteingksudo jockey... etc21:45
holsteinUnit193: do you know that?21:45
madhulet me try to reboot21:45
Unit193Can ignore that gtk error.21:46
holsteinUnit193: im reading it that its not starting.. maybe im wrong21:46
madhuboth unit193 and holstein - Thanks very much (that is if i don't catchup after reboot) appreciated21:48
madhuholstein; after reboot nothing same happening.. when I type jockey-kde i am simply getting a popup window with my current additional drivers, for me it is showing realtek driver which i loaded for wifi22:00
madhuafterthought.. may be nothing wrong with anything my system is very old one Evo N620c - maybe thats the reason the video is lagging22:00
holsteinmadhu: then, jockey-kde is working.. and thats the best option22:06
holsteinmadhu: i would have realistic expectations22:07
holsteini would try the chrome browser.. its got its own flash22:07
madhuam I missing something about jockey-kde? it just shows the drivers.. but no option to select any drivers22:07
madhuyes jockey-kde is working fine. no error messages to22:07
madhu*too22:08
holsteinmadhu: you can take a screenshot it you'd like22:09
madhuholstein: realistic expectation? It was working fine in windows xp22:11
madhuso expected similar youtube videos22:11
holsteinmadhu: its not fair to compare xp and xubuntu22:11
holsteinxp came out 10+ years ago.. and the vendor of your hardware is free to create a nice driver for xubuntu as well22:12
madhuah I see22:12
madhuagree22:12
holsteinmadhu: you are talking about driver support and flash.. not great sometimes in linux22:12
madhugot it22:12
holsteinthough, keep in mind, windows 8 probably wont load on your system and thats a better analog, timeframe wise22:12
madhuholstein: ok. Thanks for your time :-)22:18
xubuntu712hi23:08
xubuntu712i need a lil bit of help23:08
xubuntu712is anybody there?23:08
xubuntu712hello23:09
xubuntu712is there someone who can help me with a wifi connection problem?23:09
David-A!ask23:10
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:10
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amateur_userim having some problems with wine, angry birds, 4 example, dont open, someone know why is that?23:40

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