[02:05] <xubuntu602> just installed Xubuntu 32-bit on my old laptop but cannot connect wirelessly
[02:11] <xubuntu602> Totally new at this, thru windows I usually use the WEP key but not sure which options to choose to get Xubuntu connected for the first time
[02:12] <soreau> xubuntu602: do you see your AP in when you click on the network icon?
[02:13] <xubuntu602> Sorry, AP?
[02:13] <soreau> access point
[02:14] <xubuntu602> no, wireless networks "device not ready (firmware missing)"
[02:14] <soreau> hm, is it a broadcom maybe?
[02:14] <xubuntu602> yes
[02:14] <soreau> ! broadcom
[02:33] <cloudrf> anyone home
[02:35] <soreau> nope
[02:35] <cloudrf> anyone wanna get involved in a cross project?
[02:35] <brandinhess> cloudrf: You on?
[02:35] <cloudrf> yeah brandin
[02:35] <brandinhess> OK
[04:20] <alex_____> hi
[04:20] <alex_____> anybody home_
[04:20] <alex_____> anybody?
[04:21] <well_laid_lawn> probably not
[04:21] <alex_____> heh, funny.
[04:21] <well_laid_lawn> I'm at work
[04:21] <alex_____> touché.
[04:21] <alex_____> I was wondering if anyone here knows anything about enabling hibernation and making it work.
[04:22] <well_laid_lawn> I don't use hibernation
[04:22] <alex_____> I screwed up when partitioning the drive while installing (set up a 2 MB swap partition).
[04:22] <holstein> alex_____: should be working out of the box if it can (easily)
[04:22] <alex_____> Ah. ok.
[04:22] <holstein> alex_____: what happens when you enable and try it
[04:22] <unheeding> lol 2mb swap
[04:23] <alex_____> I fixed the partitions (set up a swap partition with gparted after resizing the others).
[04:23] <alex_____> then followed the few msgs I found for enabling it on the menu.
[04:23] <holstein> alex_____: what happens when you try it?..
[04:23] <alex_____> When I issue the pm-hibernate command it appears to hibernate, but when I turn on the netbook
[04:24] <alex_____> it's as if I rebooted.
[04:24] <holstein> personally dont see the need.. waking from hibernation takes about as long as reboot
[04:24] <holstein> i use sleep or i just shutdown
[04:24] <holstein> alex_____: it will seem like it reboots
[04:25] <alex_____> I need it because it's a netbook and I need to restart things where I left during my commute and sometimes I don't know how long I will be at my destination, so it saves some battery.
[04:25] <holstein> alex_____: thats the point.. its not sleep... the state is saved to the disk and its powered off... not sleeping
[04:25] <alex_____> OK, let me see if we're on the same page:
[04:25] <holstein> alex_____: i use sleep on my netbook.. dont see the need in hibernation, but what you are descirbing sounds like hibernation
[04:25] <alex_____> sleep/suspend = a semi-dormant state.
[04:25] <holstein> alex_____: it'll look like its booting
[04:25] <alex_____> hibernation = save state to disk and power off.
[04:26] <holstein> alex_____: seems correct to me.. what you are stating
[04:26] <alex_____> What I mean is that when I turn the computer back on, it starts from scratch - none of the apps I had running are open anymore. It's as if I did a shut-down instead of hibernate.
[04:27] <holstein> alex_____: that doesnt sound like hibernate
[04:27] <alex_____> Precisely.
[04:27] <holstein> alex_____: what i sould do is, get hibernate working on some machine.. see if its worth the hassle
[04:27] <alex_____> Before fixing the issue with the swap partition the OS would complain about not enough swap space, but
[04:28] <holstein> alex_____: i personally think it takes about the same amount of time.. and i just use sleep because on my commute, i literaly do open the lid and work
[04:28] <alex_____> now it doesn't complain about anything.
[04:28] <alex_____> I have another netbook (an acer; this one's an asus) that worked right out of the box.
[04:28] <alex_____> That's why I'm wondering if I should just wipe the drive and reinstall xubuntu.
[04:29] <holstein> alex_____: do what you want.. if its supported, it should be working now
[04:29] <alex_____> I agree. It should, but for some reason, it isn't working.
[04:29] <holstein> alex_____: i would say the reason is hardware support
[04:30] <holstein> or, configuration
[04:30] <alex_____> I'm going to try the reinstall tomorrow - it shouldn't take long, and I didn't install any software here yet, so it might take care of it.
[04:31] <holstein> alex_____: the reinstall is an easy-ish step... otherwise, start posting logs to pastebin
[04:31] <alex_____> If it doesn't then I'll look into hw or config issues.
[04:31] <alex_____> I'm not terribly keen on easy-ish, but when you end up wasting so much time on stupid little things, easy-ish starts looking more and more efficient.
[04:32] <holstein> sure.. installing takes 8 minutes... why not.. if its a fresh install anyways
[04:32] <holstein> i consider reinstallation a troubleshooting step :)
[04:32] <alex_____> Especially when a typo while setting up partitions ended up costing me the last 2 hours.
[04:32] <alex_____> hahhahahaa!
[04:32] <alex_____> That's a good one.
[04:33] <alex_____> I tried installing from a flash drive. took me about a day to find out that for some reason large flash drives screw up the installation.
[04:34] <holstein> ive always had deent luck with unetbootin, regardless of size
[04:34] <holstein> decent*
[04:34] <alex_____> One image I got from the xubuntu.org web site would fall flat on its face while installing software and another one, from ubuntu.org started tripping on the ubi-partition step.
[04:35] <alex_____> that's when I read that someone was having the same issue because his computer had several other drives in it.
[04:35] <alex_____> But this only happened on the asus. My wife's acer was up and running in no time.
[04:35] <holstein> not sure.. i havent seen those issues.. i would maybe test the media before installing to or from
[04:36] <holstein> i have a few asus netbooks... 4 or so.. they all "just work" for the most part
[04:36] <alex_____> I would consider stealing it but my 5 year-old spilled apple juice on it and haven't been able to get the keyboard working again.
[04:37] <holstein> nah... i like the asus's better
[04:37] <alex_____> All this was yesterday, while I'm staying at a friend's waiting for my electricity to return after the hurricane.
[04:37] <holstein> thats a good use of time... sorry about your power
[04:37] <alex_____> I like this little asus a lot. I had mint with xfce in it, but for some reason it didn't feel nearly as smooth as xubuntu.
[04:38] <alex_____> I've been at this linux thing for 13 months now and most of it is still a mistery to me.
[04:38] <alex_____> thanks for the empathy :-)
[04:39] <alex_____> Her acer with xubuntu felt like a mac while my asus, which is faster and newer felt like windows 3.1
[04:39] <alex_____> I'm going to call it a day. Thanks for your help!
[04:39] <holstein> alex_____: anytime.. good luck with everything!
[04:39] <alex_____> thanks! good night!
[08:27] <Pyru> Hi there, just curious if there is a "workaround" or a way to change the icon grid spacing in xubuntu? Cheers.
[08:33] <baizon> Pyru: this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2047899
[08:51] <Pyru> baizon, somewhat. I can't seem to locate the said file, nor can I find any settings in the specific theme folder, to change the grid spacing.
[08:57] <Pyru> Got it, thanks
[10:19] <xubuntu861> hi there! xubuntu 12.10 problem: main menu editor does not save the changes i made. is this bug fixed?
[10:48] <nikolam> can you please re-test ix xfce weather plugin actually works for you?
[10:48] <nikolam> I was thinking it is because of my network timeouts/resolving, but I think not anymore.
[10:54] <nikolam> is all alternate CD functionality moved to desktop cd  in 12.10 then? Will alternate text install CD continue to be available?
[10:54] <koegs> nikolam: there is no alternate-cd *jedi-move*
[10:55] <nikolam> koegs, I installed 12.04 from alternate cd as before
[10:55] <koegs> but not in 12.10
[10:55] <nikolam> so is it plan that text install and everything will be integrated in desktop cd?
[10:55] <nikolam> in the future?
[10:56] <knome> nikolam, text installed won't be available, but all the other features will
[10:56] <nikolam> knome, because of disk space issues on CD or soemthing else.
[10:57] <nikolam> Maybe those wanting text install can use ubuntu text install cd and then add xubuntu-desktop or something to transform it to xubuntu?
[10:57] <knome> nikolam, as an implication of something else
[10:57] <knome> or they can use the minimal ISO and install xubuntu-desktop
[10:58] <nikolam> knome, and they can have basically the same set of packages as xubuntu installed from desktop cd?
[10:58] <knome> nikolam, that will be exactly the same set
[10:59] <nikolam> I am not sure if ubuntu minimal recognize raid
[10:59] <knome> i don't know about that either
[10:59] <nikolam> I used alternate install till now, for just that reason.
[11:00] <knome> is there some bugs in the desktop installer so you can't use it, or is it about maybe a bit too old hardware?
[11:00] <nikolam> but move to btrfs instead of md is also at hand.
[11:00] <nikolam> knome, no, I think I used it because of fotware Raid / md support exclusively.
[11:00] <knome> nikolam, raid support should be in 13.04 for the desktop installer
[11:01] <nikolam> also alternate provides ways of fixing broken install. i think I used that once or twice
[11:01] <knome> there will be other alternate ISO's, like lubuntu's
[11:01] <nikolam> knome, that is good to know. I installed last time on btrfs, is btrfs an option in Desktop install?
[11:02] <knome> nikolam, basically everything that was on alternate should land in desktop before the next lts
[11:02] <knome> nikolam, but the xubuntu team is not responsible for it, it's a ubuntu-driven project
[11:02] <nikolam> knome, that sounds great then.. wait.. till the next lts?
[11:02] <knome> the next lts is 14.04
[11:03] <knome> but i believe most stuff should be in for 13.04
[11:03] <nikolam> so we wait till 2014/04 to have software raid integrated to desktop .iso, by ubuntu
[11:03] <nikolam> I believe also.
[11:03] <knome> we've been promised that it will land for 13.04, but don't count on it
[11:04] <nikolam> Ok, I would just need to check if ubuntu minimal support md raid if someone asks.
[11:04] <nikolam> Otherwise, could update from lts
[11:04] <nikolam> Unless jumping ship to Btrfs already.
[12:04] <Guest31299> what is the default xubuntu extraction tool? (for unzipping, etc) it seems to be missing all of the sudden
[12:05] <Guest31299> i guess the last update removed it from my ssytem
[12:05] <Guest31299> anyone?
[12:08] <Guest31299> nobody here???
[12:08] <knome> !patience
[12:08] <Guest31299> well knome, u did had the time to post that lol
[12:09] <Guest31299> just need the name for the default archive manager in xubuntu, so i can move on...
[12:15] <koegs> Guest31299: xarchiver, i think
[12:15] <koegs> Guest31299: or file-roller with unity/gnome
[12:16] <koegs> oh, in 12.10 default seems to be file-roller too
[12:18] <Guest31299> thnx
[13:38] <ruslan_osmanov> Hi. My file-roller fails to open an archive with Russian symbols. How do I make file-roller to deal with Unicode?
[13:40] <ruslan_osmanov> It shows the files in archive. But when I try to open one, it outputs something like 'caution: filename not matched:  \?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\? 2/2\-2.jpg'
[13:56] <GridCube> ruslan_osmanov, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unzip/+bug/580961
[13:58] <ruslan_osmanov> It seems it wouldn't be fixed
[13:59] <GridCube> the "wont fix" is for natty
[14:33] <Cronos_> hi
[14:33] <GridCube> !hi | Cronos_
[14:34] <Cronos_> xubuntu is good on netbook?
[14:34] <GridCube> yes, pretty good
[14:34] <GridCube> :) im using an intel classmate now, and it flies
[14:34] <Cronos_> perfect, i use aspire one zg5
[14:35] <Cronos_> xubuntu support sim?
[14:35] <GridCube> what is sim?
[14:36] <Cronos_> smart phone card
[14:36] <koegs> u mean a internal 3g modem?
[14:37] <GridCube> i wouldnt know what you mean, if you need a 3g modem, then yes, but you need the modem, and thats the one that supports sims
[14:38] <Cronos_> ok i mean this 3G support, and for call or recive message as a smartphone?
[14:39] <GridCube> you might need a third party software for that, and i dont know of any
[14:39] <Cronos_> ok, thanks GridCube , i finish install i reboot bye!
[14:45] <xubuntu747> hi
[14:45] <xubuntu747> I need help
[14:45] <xubuntu747> anyone can help me please?
[14:46] <pleia2> !ask
[14:46] <pleia2> :)
[14:49] <xubuntu747> I've installed Xubuntu 12.10 from an USB as the only OS in my netbook and a black screen appears when I turn on my laptop asking me for login and pass in white letters, I enter mine but it says that is not correct, what should I do?
[16:25] <P-J> Hi all, I wonder if someone might be able to help me with a monitor/docking station issue?
[16:25] <P-J> I'm trying to set a laptop so it can dock and undock correctly (dual screens when docked, laptop display when undocked).
[16:26] <P-J> The problem I have is that unless I boot the laptop undocked, the laptop panel never appears in xrandr.
[16:26] <P-J> If I boot docked, and then undock, I can't switch to the laptop display because it's not been 'found'.
[16:26] <P-J> Is there any way to 'force' a refresh of which displays are connected?
[16:27] <P-J> If so I could use bash scripts and hotkeys to sort the displays out
[16:27] <xubuntu995> Hi! Does anyone know how to fix the wake issues of xfce? When my laptop goes to sleep and i try try to wake it freezes...
[18:55] <SpaceAviator> Is anyone else using xubuntu with a ATi HD series card?
[19:01] <SpaceAviator> nobody?
[19:01] <knome> SpaceAviator, nobody who was active the last 6 minutes
[19:02] <SpaceAviator> knome: hello sassy pants
[19:44] <hhhzzzarn> not me.
[20:32] <madhu> Dear All
[20:34] <madhu> I am new to xubuntu from windows world and struggling to resolve an issue... any help and suggestion welcome->Question: I am having very bad youtube video in xubuntu chrome player.
[20:34] <madhu> anyone have similar issue? or anybody who have resolved it successfully?
[20:34] <madhu> plese let me know
[20:35] <Unit193> Bad how?  If the color is off, it's been said to disable hardware accel.
[20:35] <madhu> the video is breaking / lagging
[20:36] <madhu> I tried to disable hw accel but not much of difference
[20:37] <holstein> you can try disabling compositing.. but i would look at the graphics driver.. i would also try the actual chrome browser.. if this is a 32bit system
[20:37] <Unit193> What flash package do you have?  And I'd recommend you enable html5 player at  http://youtube.com/html5
[20:38] <Unit193> Above is very good, and VLC can play YouTube videos as well, if you have that.
[20:40] <madhu> I am using chrome browser. Tried disabling flash and enabled html5 - no much difference.
[20:40] <madhu> I tried to use VLC but nothing is showing
[20:41] <madhu> Unit193, not sure I am doing it right went to VLC and in the "stream" given the youtube link.. nothing happened.. is that wrong?
[20:42] <madhu> Trying the above link
[20:42] <madhu> for html5
[20:43] <Unit193> Well, Media > Open Network Stream.  May want to install jockey-kde and see if it has any driver for your card.
[20:47] <madhu> html5 option didn't work. vlc - was trying the network stream only. think some prob with the driver.
[20:47] <madhu> let me check jockey-kde - is there a website
[20:50] <Unit193> !info jockey-kde
[20:53] <madhu> sorry couldn't understand :(
[20:54] <madhu> I am bit newish to xubuntu so ... can you elaborate on how to get jockey-kde
[20:57] <Unit193> Using synaptic or whatever the default package manager is, you can also open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install jockey-kde
[21:00] <madhu> trying sudo
[21:18] <madhu> hi Unit193... I have installed jockey-kde but it is not appearing anywhere in the menu
[21:18] <madhu> am I missing something?
[21:18] <holstein> madhu: start it from the terminal
[21:19] <Unit193> Also check settings manager, though that should do it.
[21:21] <de_leve> i've updated my xubuntu nad my wine with some windows games desnt work, does anyone know about that?
[21:22] <de_leve> just simple games, like bejeweled
[21:22] <holstein> windows games via wine?
[21:23] <Unit193> !appdb
[21:24] <madhu> Hi holstein, thanks I am starting jockey-kde from termina
[21:25] <knome> madhu, if you're using xubuntu, rather try jockey-gtk
[21:28] <madhu> Hi Knome, jockey-kde didnt  work it crashed. Let me try -gtk
[21:31] <madhu> jockey-kde is just listing out the custom drivers. How do I load other drivers for my graphics card/
[21:31] <Unit193> knome: GTK is software sources which is reported not to work as well. :P
[21:36] <madhu> Unit193 I am having ATI rv200 adaptor
[21:36] <madhu> but cannot find any drivers in jockey-gtk
[21:37] <holstein> !ait
[21:37] <holstein> !ati
[21:38] <holstein> madhu: what are the errors when starting from terminal
[21:43] <madhu> holstein; when starting jockey-gtk from terminal I get the following error
[21:44] <madhu> gtk-critical **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion 'icon_set != NULL' failed
[21:44] <holstein> sometimes they still start though.. might need root
[21:45] <holstein> gksudo jockey... etc
[21:45] <holstein> Unit193: do you know that?
[21:45] <madhu> let me try to reboot
[21:46] <Unit193> Can ignore that gtk error.
[21:46] <holstein> Unit193: im reading it that its not starting.. maybe im wrong
[21:48] <madhu> both unit193 and holstein - Thanks very much (that is if i don't catchup after reboot) appreciated
[22:00] <madhu> holstein; after reboot nothing same happening.. when I type jockey-kde i am simply getting a popup window with my current additional drivers, for me it is showing realtek driver which i loaded for wifi
[22:00] <madhu> afterthought.. may be nothing wrong with anything my system is very old one Evo N620c - maybe thats the reason the video is lagging
[22:06] <holstein> madhu: then, jockey-kde is working.. and thats the best option
[22:07] <holstein> madhu: i would have realistic expectations
[22:07] <holstein> i would try the chrome browser.. its got its own flash
[22:07] <madhu> am I missing something about jockey-kde? it just shows the drivers.. but no option to select any drivers
[22:07] <madhu> yes jockey-kde is working fine. no error messages to
[22:08] <madhu> *too
[22:09] <holstein> madhu: you can take a screenshot it you'd like
[22:11] <madhu> holstein: realistic expectation? It was working fine in windows xp
[22:11] <madhu> so expected similar youtube videos
[22:11] <holstein> madhu: its not fair to compare xp and xubuntu
[22:12] <holstein> xp came out 10+ years ago.. and the vendor of your hardware is free to create a nice driver for xubuntu as well
[22:12] <madhu> ah I see
[22:12] <madhu> agree
[22:12] <holstein> madhu: you are talking about driver support and flash.. not great sometimes in linux
[22:12] <madhu> got it
[22:12] <holstein> though, keep in mind, windows 8 probably wont load on your system and thats a better analog, timeframe wise
[22:18] <madhu> holstein: ok. Thanks for your time :-)
[23:08] <xubuntu712> hi
[23:08] <xubuntu712> i need a lil bit of help
[23:08] <xubuntu712> is anybody there?
[23:09] <xubuntu712> hello
[23:09] <xubuntu712> is there someone who can help me with a wifi connection problem?
[23:10] <David-A> !ask
[23:40] <amateur_user> im having some problems with wine, angry birds, 4 example, dont open, someone know why is that?