[02:05] just installed Xubuntu 32-bit on my old laptop but cannot connect wirelessly [02:11] Totally new at this, thru windows I usually use the WEP key but not sure which options to choose to get Xubuntu connected for the first time [02:12] xubuntu602: do you see your AP in when you click on the network icon? [02:13] Sorry, AP? [02:13] access point [02:14] no, wireless networks "device not ready (firmware missing)" [02:14] hm, is it a broadcom maybe? [02:14] yes [02:14] ! broadcom [02:14] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [02:33] anyone home [02:35] nope [02:35] anyone wanna get involved in a cross project? [02:35] cloudrf: You on? [02:35] yeah brandin [02:35] OK === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [04:20] hi [04:20] anybody home_ [04:20] anybody? [04:21] probably not [04:21] heh, funny. [04:21] I'm at work [04:21] touché. [04:21] I was wondering if anyone here knows anything about enabling hibernation and making it work. [04:22] I don't use hibernation [04:22] I screwed up when partitioning the drive while installing (set up a 2 MB swap partition). [04:22] alex_____: should be working out of the box if it can (easily) [04:22] Ah. ok. [04:22] alex_____: what happens when you enable and try it [04:22] lol 2mb swap [04:23] I fixed the partitions (set up a swap partition with gparted after resizing the others). [04:23] then followed the few msgs I found for enabling it on the menu. [04:23] alex_____: what happens when you try it?.. [04:23] When I issue the pm-hibernate command it appears to hibernate, but when I turn on the netbook [04:24] it's as if I rebooted. [04:24] personally dont see the need.. waking from hibernation takes about as long as reboot [04:24] i use sleep or i just shutdown [04:24] alex_____: it will seem like it reboots [04:25] I need it because it's a netbook and I need to restart things where I left during my commute and sometimes I don't know how long I will be at my destination, so it saves some battery. [04:25] alex_____: thats the point.. its not sleep... the state is saved to the disk and its powered off... not sleeping [04:25] OK, let me see if we're on the same page: [04:25] alex_____: i use sleep on my netbook.. dont see the need in hibernation, but what you are descirbing sounds like hibernation [04:25] sleep/suspend = a semi-dormant state. [04:25] alex_____: it'll look like its booting [04:25] hibernation = save state to disk and power off. [04:26] alex_____: seems correct to me.. what you are stating [04:26] What I mean is that when I turn the computer back on, it starts from scratch - none of the apps I had running are open anymore. It's as if I did a shut-down instead of hibernate. [04:27] alex_____: that doesnt sound like hibernate [04:27] Precisely. [04:27] alex_____: what i sould do is, get hibernate working on some machine.. see if its worth the hassle [04:27] Before fixing the issue with the swap partition the OS would complain about not enough swap space, but [04:28] alex_____: i personally think it takes about the same amount of time.. and i just use sleep because on my commute, i literaly do open the lid and work [04:28] now it doesn't complain about anything. [04:28] I have another netbook (an acer; this one's an asus) that worked right out of the box. [04:28] That's why I'm wondering if I should just wipe the drive and reinstall xubuntu. [04:29] alex_____: do what you want.. if its supported, it should be working now [04:29] I agree. It should, but for some reason, it isn't working. [04:29] alex_____: i would say the reason is hardware support [04:30] or, configuration [04:30] I'm going to try the reinstall tomorrow - it shouldn't take long, and I didn't install any software here yet, so it might take care of it. [04:31] alex_____: the reinstall is an easy-ish step... otherwise, start posting logs to pastebin [04:31] If it doesn't then I'll look into hw or config issues. [04:31] I'm not terribly keen on easy-ish, but when you end up wasting so much time on stupid little things, easy-ish starts looking more and more efficient. [04:32] sure.. installing takes 8 minutes... why not.. if its a fresh install anyways [04:32] i consider reinstallation a troubleshooting step :) [04:32] Especially when a typo while setting up partitions ended up costing me the last 2 hours. [04:32] hahhahahaa! [04:32] That's a good one. [04:33] I tried installing from a flash drive. took me about a day to find out that for some reason large flash drives screw up the installation. [04:34] ive always had deent luck with unetbootin, regardless of size [04:34] decent* [04:34] One image I got from the xubuntu.org web site would fall flat on its face while installing software and another one, from ubuntu.org started tripping on the ubi-partition step. [04:35] that's when I read that someone was having the same issue because his computer had several other drives in it. [04:35] But this only happened on the asus. My wife's acer was up and running in no time. [04:35] not sure.. i havent seen those issues.. i would maybe test the media before installing to or from [04:36] i have a few asus netbooks... 4 or so.. they all "just work" for the most part [04:36] I would consider stealing it but my 5 year-old spilled apple juice on it and haven't been able to get the keyboard working again. [04:37] nah... i like the asus's better [04:37] All this was yesterday, while I'm staying at a friend's waiting for my electricity to return after the hurricane. [04:37] thats a good use of time... sorry about your power [04:37] I like this little asus a lot. I had mint with xfce in it, but for some reason it didn't feel nearly as smooth as xubuntu. [04:38] I've been at this linux thing for 13 months now and most of it is still a mistery to me. [04:38] thanks for the empathy :-) [04:39] Her acer with xubuntu felt like a mac while my asus, which is faster and newer felt like windows 3.1 [04:39] I'm going to call it a day. Thanks for your help! [04:39] alex_____: anytime.. good luck with everything! [04:39] thanks! good night! === nyR3dnek is now known as nyRednek === Transfusion is now known as RainbowDashh [08:27] Hi there, just curious if there is a "workaround" or a way to change the icon grid spacing in xubuntu? Cheers. === mogitox is now known as mogitaff [08:33] Pyru: this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2047899 [08:51] baizon, somewhat. I can't seem to locate the said file, nor can I find any settings in the specific theme folder, to change the grid spacing. [08:57] Got it, thanks [10:19] hi there! xubuntu 12.10 problem: main menu editor does not save the changes i made. is this bug fixed? === TheGrimSqueaker is now known as nothingspecial [10:48] can you please re-test ix xfce weather plugin actually works for you? [10:48] I was thinking it is because of my network timeouts/resolving, but I think not anymore. [10:54] is all alternate CD functionality moved to desktop cd in 12.10 then? Will alternate text install CD continue to be available? [10:54] nikolam: there is no alternate-cd *jedi-move* [10:55] koegs, I installed 12.04 from alternate cd as before [10:55] but not in 12.10 [10:55] so is it plan that text install and everything will be integrated in desktop cd? [10:55] in the future? [10:56] nikolam, text installed won't be available, but all the other features will [10:56] knome, because of disk space issues on CD or soemthing else. [10:57] Maybe those wanting text install can use ubuntu text install cd and then add xubuntu-desktop or something to transform it to xubuntu? [10:57] nikolam, as an implication of something else [10:57] or they can use the minimal ISO and install xubuntu-desktop [10:58] knome, and they can have basically the same set of packages as xubuntu installed from desktop cd? [10:58] nikolam, that will be exactly the same set [10:59] I am not sure if ubuntu minimal recognize raid [10:59] i don't know about that either [10:59] I used alternate install till now, for just that reason. [11:00] is there some bugs in the desktop installer so you can't use it, or is it about maybe a bit too old hardware? [11:00] but move to btrfs instead of md is also at hand. [11:00] knome, no, I think I used it because of fotware Raid / md support exclusively. [11:00] nikolam, raid support should be in 13.04 for the desktop installer [11:01] also alternate provides ways of fixing broken install. i think I used that once or twice [11:01] there will be other alternate ISO's, like lubuntu's [11:01] knome, that is good to know. I installed last time on btrfs, is btrfs an option in Desktop install? [11:02] nikolam, basically everything that was on alternate should land in desktop before the next lts [11:02] nikolam, but the xubuntu team is not responsible for it, it's a ubuntu-driven project [11:02] knome, that sounds great then.. wait.. till the next lts? [11:02] the next lts is 14.04 [11:03] but i believe most stuff should be in for 13.04 [11:03] so we wait till 2014/04 to have software raid integrated to desktop .iso, by ubuntu [11:03] I believe also. [11:03] we've been promised that it will land for 13.04, but don't count on it [11:04] Ok, I would just need to check if ubuntu minimal support md raid if someone asks. [11:04] Otherwise, could update from lts [11:04] Unless jumping ship to Btrfs already. === mike is now known as Guest31299 [12:04] what is the default xubuntu extraction tool? (for unzipping, etc) it seems to be missing all of the sudden [12:05] i guess the last update removed it from my ssytem [12:05] anyone? [12:08] nobody here??? [12:08] !patience [12:08] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [12:08] well knome, u did had the time to post that lol [12:09] just need the name for the default archive manager in xubuntu, so i can move on... [12:15] Guest31299: xarchiver, i think [12:15] Guest31299: or file-roller with unity/gnome [12:16] oh, in 12.10 default seems to be file-roller too [12:18] thnx === ponbiki is now known as Guest20434 [13:38] Hi. My file-roller fails to open an archive with Russian symbols. How do I make file-roller to deal with Unicode? [13:40] It shows the files in archive. But when I try to open one, it outputs something like 'caution: filename not matched: \?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\? 2/2\-2.jpg' [13:56] ruslan_osmanov, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unzip/+bug/580961 [13:56] Launchpad bug 580961 in unzip (Ubuntu) "unzip fails to deal correctly with filename encodings" [High,Triaged] [13:58] It seems it wouldn't be fixed [13:59] the "wont fix" is for natty === nyR3dn3k is now known as nyRednek [14:33] hi [14:33] !hi | Cronos_ [14:33] Cronos_: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [14:34] xubuntu is good on netbook? [14:34] yes, pretty good [14:34] :) im using an intel classmate now, and it flies [14:34] perfect, i use aspire one zg5 [14:35] xubuntu support sim? [14:35] what is sim? [14:36] smart phone card [14:36] u mean a internal 3g modem? [14:37] i wouldnt know what you mean, if you need a 3g modem, then yes, but you need the modem, and thats the one that supports sims [14:38] ok i mean this 3G support, and for call or recive message as a smartphone? [14:39] you might need a third party software for that, and i dont know of any [14:39] ok, thanks GridCube , i finish install i reboot bye! [14:45] hi [14:45] I need help [14:45] anyone can help me please? [14:46] !ask [14:46] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [14:46] :) [14:49] I've installed Xubuntu 12.10 from an USB as the only OS in my netbook and a black screen appears when I turn on my laptop asking me for login and pass in white letters, I enter mine but it says that is not correct, what should I do? [16:25] Hi all, I wonder if someone might be able to help me with a monitor/docking station issue? [16:25] I'm trying to set a laptop so it can dock and undock correctly (dual screens when docked, laptop display when undocked). [16:26] The problem I have is that unless I boot the laptop undocked, the laptop panel never appears in xrandr. [16:26] If I boot docked, and then undock, I can't switch to the laptop display because it's not been 'found'. [16:26] Is there any way to 'force' a refresh of which displays are connected? [16:27] If so I could use bash scripts and hotkeys to sort the displays out [16:27] Hi! Does anyone know how to fix the wake issues of xfce? When my laptop goes to sleep and i try try to wake it freezes... === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [18:55] Is anyone else using xubuntu with a ATi HD series card? [19:01] nobody? [19:01] SpaceAviator, nobody who was active the last 6 minutes [19:02] knome: hello sassy pants === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [19:44] not me. [20:32] Dear All [20:34] I am new to xubuntu from windows world and struggling to resolve an issue... any help and suggestion welcome->Question: I am having very bad youtube video in xubuntu chrome player. [20:34] anyone have similar issue? or anybody who have resolved it successfully? [20:34] plese let me know [20:35] Bad how? If the color is off, it's been said to disable hardware accel. [20:35] the video is breaking / lagging [20:36] I tried to disable hw accel but not much of difference [20:37] you can try disabling compositing.. but i would look at the graphics driver.. i would also try the actual chrome browser.. if this is a 32bit system [20:37] What flash package do you have? And I'd recommend you enable html5 player at http://youtube.com/html5 [20:38] Above is very good, and VLC can play YouTube videos as well, if you have that. [20:40] I am using chrome browser. Tried disabling flash and enabled html5 - no much difference. [20:40] I tried to use VLC but nothing is showing [20:41] Unit193, not sure I am doing it right went to VLC and in the "stream" given the youtube link.. nothing happened.. is that wrong? [20:42] Trying the above link [20:42] for html5 [20:43] Well, Media > Open Network Stream. May want to install jockey-kde and see if it has any driver for your card. [20:47] html5 option didn't work. vlc - was trying the network stream only. think some prob with the driver. [20:47] let me check jockey-kde - is there a website [20:50] !info jockey-kde [20:50] jockey-kde (source: jockey): KDE user interface and desktop integration for driver management. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-0ubuntu11 (quantal), package size 9 kB, installed size 112 kB [20:53] sorry couldn't understand :( [20:54] I am bit newish to xubuntu so ... can you elaborate on how to get jockey-kde [20:57] Using synaptic or whatever the default package manager is, you can also open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install jockey-kde [21:00] trying sudo [21:18] hi Unit193... I have installed jockey-kde but it is not appearing anywhere in the menu [21:18] am I missing something? [21:18] madhu: start it from the terminal [21:19] Also check settings manager, though that should do it. [21:21] i've updated my xubuntu nad my wine with some windows games desnt work, does anyone know about that? [21:22] just simple games, like bejeweled [21:22] windows games via wine? [21:23] !appdb [21:23] The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [21:24] Hi holstein, thanks I am starting jockey-kde from termina [21:25] madhu, if you're using xubuntu, rather try jockey-gtk [21:28] Hi Knome, jockey-kde didnt work it crashed. Let me try -gtk [21:31] jockey-kde is just listing out the custom drivers. How do I load other drivers for my graphics card/ [21:31] knome: GTK is software sources which is reported not to work as well. :P [21:36] Unit193 I am having ATI rv200 adaptor [21:36] but cannot find any drivers in jockey-gtk [21:37] !ait [21:37] !ati [21:37] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [21:38] madhu: what are the errors when starting from terminal [21:43] holstein; when starting jockey-gtk from terminal I get the following error [21:44] gtk-critical **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion 'icon_set != NULL' failed [21:44] sometimes they still start though.. might need root [21:45] gksudo jockey... etc [21:45] Unit193: do you know that? [21:45] let me try to reboot [21:46] Can ignore that gtk error. [21:46] Unit193: im reading it that its not starting.. maybe im wrong [21:48] both unit193 and holstein - Thanks very much (that is if i don't catchup after reboot) appreciated [22:00] holstein; after reboot nothing same happening.. when I type jockey-kde i am simply getting a popup window with my current additional drivers, for me it is showing realtek driver which i loaded for wifi [22:00] afterthought.. may be nothing wrong with anything my system is very old one Evo N620c - maybe thats the reason the video is lagging [22:06] madhu: then, jockey-kde is working.. and thats the best option [22:07] madhu: i would have realistic expectations [22:07] i would try the chrome browser.. its got its own flash [22:07] am I missing something about jockey-kde? it just shows the drivers.. but no option to select any drivers [22:07] yes jockey-kde is working fine. no error messages to [22:08] *too [22:09] madhu: you can take a screenshot it you'd like [22:11] holstein: realistic expectation? It was working fine in windows xp [22:11] so expected similar youtube videos [22:11] madhu: its not fair to compare xp and xubuntu [22:12] xp came out 10+ years ago.. and the vendor of your hardware is free to create a nice driver for xubuntu as well [22:12] ah I see [22:12] agree [22:12] madhu: you are talking about driver support and flash.. not great sometimes in linux [22:12] got it [22:12] though, keep in mind, windows 8 probably wont load on your system and thats a better analog, timeframe wise [22:18] holstein: ok. Thanks for your time :-) [23:08] hi [23:08] i need a lil bit of help [23:08] is anybody there? [23:09] hello [23:09] is there someone who can help me with a wifi connection problem? [23:10] !ask [23:10] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience === Guest20434 is now known as ponbiki [23:40] im having some problems with wine, angry birds, 4 example, dont open, someone know why is that?