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Robtygartsimplew: would it help to update your packages first? sudo apt-get update00:11
simplewhu?00:12
simplewthat has nothing to do00:12
Robtygartbut if your fetching data off the web does it run though package manager00:14
Robtygartlol00:14
Gnosis-on a laptop, how do I get the fn keys to work? In particular, the ones to brighten or dim the screen00:15
Gnosis-the increase/decrease volume ones work, but not the brighten/dim ones00:15
RobtygartGnosis-: on my HP I have a Fn button you hold then press one of the Fkeys00:16
RobtygartF-Keys*00:16
Gnosis-Yeah, I have that too. It doesn't work even when I do this00:17
OerHeksGnosis-, some laptops can be fixed with "acpi_backlight=vendor" in fstab >>> example http://askubuntu.com/questions/194812/cant-change-brightness-on-toshiba-l755-laptop00:18
Gnosis-OerHeks: okay, so I can write a number from 0 to 7 to /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness, and that works00:23
OerHeksGnosis-, yes, but after restart it is set to max brightness again ...00:29
Gnosis-I don't really think that page is describing my problem, because unlike them, I _am_ able to adjust the brightness with System Settings->Power00:31
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swiftsword94o.o.. well .... i guess this is to see how quassel works01:06
swiftsword94and aparently it does...01:06
us0rhello, i am looking for help with kubuntu. is this the right place to ask?01:12
xixoryes01:12
us0rexcellent. i am looking for a good wysiwyg editor for kubuntu. would kompozer work or wouldyou suggest somthing else?01:13
xixorThis is for documents? reports?  letters?01:14
us0rto buld and modify web documents with html, css, jquery ect01:16
us0r*build01:16
xixorHm... with those requirements, I'm not sure.  For office documents libreOffice, Calligra, and Abiword were what I was going to recommend.01:17
xixorI'm not much of a web developer though.  So an editor with html, css, jquery is outside of my domain.  Stick around, and someone might be able to recommend something01:17
tsimpson!html01:18
ubottuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya (Hardy or earlier) - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+ - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/01:18
us0rthank you both. @ubottu: will kompozer run on kubuntu? i attempted to install it but was unsuccessful01:20
SIR_Tacous0r: yes it will... (ubottu is a bot)01:21
SIR_Tacous0r: wich Kubuntu? 12.10?01:23
us0rah, i see. thanks for the answer.01:23
us0ri beleive so, it was the most recent version01:23
SIR_Tacous0r: don't think Kompozer or Iceape work at the moment01:27
SIR_Tacous0r: how vested are  you in wysiwyg?01:28
yogaI am in 12.04 and want to upgrade to 12.10, I ready set "Release Upgrade" to "Normal Releases" in muon-updater, but I don't get prompt for upgrade.01:52
yogaHow come.01:52
SIR_Tacoyoga: how about: sudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade01:56
TheLordOfTimein terminal :P01:57
SIR_Tacoyes in terminal... not on a peice of paper :P01:58
TheLordOfTimeSIR_Taco, you never know, some people say "where do i type that?"01:59
TheLordOfTime:P01:59
SIR_TacoTheLordOfTime: yes... had that already toda01:59
SIR_Tacoy01:59
TheLordOfTimeyou should hit your keyboard with a stick, the enter key is misbehaving02:00
* TheLordOfTime hands SIR_Taco a stick02:00
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TheLordOfTimehave fun.02:00
SIR_TacoTheLordOfTime: double click my computer.... if you can reach it :P02:00
yogaSIR_Taco: is that for devel release?  The Ubuntu 2.10 already out.02:00
ozzzyI loaded 2.10 and after the 5th or 6th crash I pulled it from the machine02:01
ozzzyer... 12.1002:01
SIR_Tacoyoga: 12.10 is an official release, but's it's not a long term release02:01
SIR_Tacoer, long-term support release02:02
yogaSIR_Taco: ok I am running sudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade, it's doing its thing.02:05
SIR_Tacoyoga: 12.10 is not a LTS (long-term support: which gives 5 years of security and stablility updates, I believe). However it *should* have some of the latest software/drivers/etc.02:07
yogaBut from the stdout it says Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-yoga" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.02:07
yogaI might ignore that?02:07
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DarthFrogyoga: Yes.02:20
SIR_TacoDarthFrog: thanks.... I'm bouncing around answering questions02:21
DarthFrogSIR_Taco: You've been eating flubber? :-)02:22
SIR_TacoI wish :P02:22
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ozzzyevening Frogger02:39
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yogaDo I need the internet connection after all the upgrade packages were downloaed?04:58
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tsimpsonyoga: not normally, the exception being flashplugin-installer and ttf-mscorefonts-installer05:00
yogatsimpson: Will it rerun it if I got online again?05:10
tsimpsonyoga: it should, but you may have to rerun the upgrade command again, or use "sudo apt-get -f install", to get it to rerun05:12
noaXessmrning06:35
noaXesshere http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/Nvidia/nvidia is described that we need to add "nvidia" as driver into xorg.conf.. but if i check my xorg.conf, "nvidia" is commented out, so not used from X11... is there any other place where nvidia will be used, cause "lsmod | grep nvidia" = nvidia              11263007  4406:37
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SmurphyMorning08:07
rawler_hiya..08:15
rawler_strange problem.. today when booting my laptop, the secondary HDMI display-port just wasn't detected anymore by Kubuntu..08:15
rawler_worked yesterday, so looked through the updates.. colord was the only reasonable suspect, but after reverting it, the problem still remains.. any ideas?08:16
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yoga`When I click Kickoff Application Launcher, I get Favorites tab, then I type from the keyboard "Down" key, to move to the File Manager Dolphin, but if I hit enter, nothing happen.09:33
yoga`It works if I use the mouse to choose the Dolphin.  Any idea?09:33
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BluesKajHey all11:15
Smurphyjo ...11:16
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yoga`#end12:19
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simplewyofel: around?12:56
yofelsimplew: yes, but I'm at work, so if it's something long it'll have to wait12:58
noravingalCannot unlock screen from guest account kubuntu 12.1012:59
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mime_1111hey ppl, ive unfinished downloading a file with ktorrent, but no more seeders at 70%. how can easily separate those that are finished, and auto pick them? they are folders with audio inside.13:33
mime_1111thnx13:33
mime_1111there are13:33
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snikker|2is possible to use grub2 in dual boot (lin+win) without install grub2 also on the second disk?14:34
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jedihawkboo14:49
xixorboo-urns14:50
Picixixor: :D14:50
BluesKajboo-hoo14:51
jedihawkI'm all new and shiny in my new Kubuntu.  warm-fuzzies for all!14:51
xixorcool14:52
jedihawkis it supposed to be only 32-bit?14:52
xixorno, there is an AMD64 kubuntu installation iso on the website for download14:53
jedihawkI must have chosen the wrong one.  I used pendrivelinux and installed from usb drive.14:53
jedihawkis it possible to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit?14:54
xixorI'm not sure14:54
jedihawkoh well.  32-bit isn't all that bad.14:56
TheLordOfTimejedihawk, if you've installed 32bit, you can't instantly switch to 64bit14:58
TheLordOfTimethat's a little bit difficult/impossible14:58
lordievaderjedihawk: You could check out PAE, Physical Address Extension.14:59
jedihawkwith this system, I installed over what I had before.  I did not format my partitions.  so it is a little wierd, but it seems to work fine.15:01
jedihawkI may re-re-install over it again with the 64-bit version.  but it's such a hassel to re-config everything.  again.15:02
xixorjedihawk: if you have use a separate partition for /home, then all of your settings can be saved15:04
jedihawkyes, most settings were saved, that's true.  but I still had a lot of items to install and set up again.15:04
xixorexcept for things in /etc of course15:04
xixorI think there is a way to get a list of the packages installed on your system, and then to feed that into apt-get/dpkg/muon again, so you don't have to install them one-at-atime again15:05
jedihawkoh?  how's that work?15:06
xixorhm... not sure to be honest, something I read on ubuntuforums or something, someone here might know, or you can google around15:06
yofelwait I know15:06
yofeldpkg --get-selections | awk '!/deinstall|purge|hold/ {print $1}' > packages.list15:07
yofelsave the file and later run15:07
yofelxargs -a "packages.list" sudo apt-get install15:07
xixorhttp://superuser.com/questions/48374/find-all-user-installed-packages15:07
jedihawknice!15:07
jedihawkthx15:09
yofelif you have any 3rd party repositories or architecture specific stuff you might have to filter those out from the file15:10
yofelapt-get will tell you what it can't find though15:10
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quentinsalut15:11
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quentinhello15:12
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Mac-Chikenhi15:13
jedihawkgreetings15:14
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jedihawkhow do you get your wallpaper to span both monitors?15:16
xixorjedihawk: that is something that KDE cannot do15:27
xixorjedihawk: as far as I know anyway15:27
lordievaderjedihawk: Little work-around, split the image in two with gimp.15:28
jedihawkbummer.  I just used split files; one for the left, one for the right.15:28
jedihawkyaa!15:28
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WineQQ_hey guys  as it seems i cant playback youtube vids with minitube ... some ideas for that ?15:43
ikoniaminitube ?15:43
WineQQ_a "standalone" player for youtube video playback ... i have some bad performance issues with youtube and ubuntu 12.0415:44
WineQQ_so i thought i could try that15:45
jedihawkWineQQ_: you're not using the flash player in a browser?15:47
ikonia!info minitube15:47
ubottuminitube (source: minitube): Native YouTube client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7-1.1 (quantal), package size 586 kB, installed size 1581 kB15:48
jedihawkI have no experience with minitube, sorry.  I usually just download the video file and then play it locally in mplayer or some other video player.15:49
zizi_hi i have a problem installing from a tar.gz15:49
zizi_during the ./configure15:49
zizi_i get an error15:50
jedihawkzizi_: what's the package?15:50
zizi_should i paste here the errpr15:50
WineQQ_@jedihawk   yeah probably that is what im going to do ... just thought that there would be a possibility to solve that problem of bad performance15:50
zizi_http://www.dymo-label-printers.co.uk/dymo_sdk_linux.html15:50
jedihawkWineQQ_: that's how I "solved" chunkie-ness.  download, then play. (then delete)15:51
jedihawkWineQQ_: use downloadhelper plugin for firefox.15:51
WineQQ_@jedihawk  ok thank u ;)15:52
jedihawkzizi_: is the error long/huge?15:54
zizi_ nope15:54
jedihawkzizi_: okay, paste it here.15:55
zizi_checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c15:55
zizi_checking whether build environment is sane... yes15:55
zizi_/home/zizi/Λήψεις/dymo-cups-drivers-1.4.0.5/missing: Unknown `--run' option15:55
zizi_Try `/home/zizi/Λήψεις/dymo-cups-drivers-1.4.0.5/missing --help' for more information15:55
zizi_configure: WARNING: `missing' script is too old or missing15:55
zizi_checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p15:55
FloodBotK1zizi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:55
zizi_checking for gawk... no15:55
BluesKajjedihawk, go to adobe and download the flashplayer , extract it , then copy or cut and paste the libflashplayer.so with root permissions  into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , there may be an alternative .so file already there but it's probly not working so delete it15:55
lordievader!paste | zizi_15:55
ubottuzizi_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:55
BluesKajok , gotta check some stuff ...BBL15:56
zizi_i just pasted at pastbin15:56
lordievaderzizi_: Post the link here please.15:57
zizi_http://paste.ubuntu.com/1337588/15:57
lordievaderzizi_: You do not have the C compiler, sudo apt-get install build-essentials <-- this will install a few compilers and other stuff needed for building software.15:58
jedihawkBluesKaj: even if my existing flash player works pretty good?16:00
zizi_no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH16:00
Tm_Tjedihawk: what you're trying to do?16:04
Tm_Thmmm, or was it you at all who needed flash being installed16:05
jedihawkmy flash player works fine, but it's a bit "chunky" on large videos.  so for those, I download them with downloadhelper, then play them locally with mplayer or something else, and that works fine.  that's how I watch all of freddiew's stuff.16:06
jedihawkthere was another guy who was trying to get minitube running.16:06
jedihawkI've never even heard of minitube before.16:06
zizi_i have the cups library but it cant find it16:07
lordievaderzizi_: Have you installed the build essentials? Is it now complaining about something else?16:11
zizi_yeah16:11
lordievaderzizi_: What is it complaining about?16:11
zizi_error: Can't find cups library16:11
lordievaderzizi_: apt-get install libcups2-dev16:12
lordievaderzizi_: I think, or some other libcups*-dev16:13
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zizi_lol16:21
zizi_error: Can't find cupsimage library16:21
lordievaderzizi_: libcupsimage2-dev16:22
lordievaderzizi_: What are you trying to build?16:22
zizi_http://www.dymo-label-printers.co.uk/dymo_sdk_linux.html16:23
newnubhello, i just installed kubuntu 32bit, but i don't like default desktop look (and have no idea what its called cause i've never used it before). how do i get normal KDE 4?16:23
zizi_tyvm16:24
lordievaderzizi_: No problem.16:25
zizi_now where can i find what i just created?16:26
lordievaderzizi_: Im not sure how the program is called but you can find its location with: whereis <program-name>16:26
zizi_i cant find it16:29
lordievaderzizi_: Perhaps find can find it. find / -iname dymo16:31
BluesKajnewnub, open dolphin /help/about kde16:32
BluesKajnewnub, also open kmenu>computer>system settings>application appearance ..check out the options16:33
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zizi_nothing happens16:34
zizi_anyway16:34
zizi_tyvm lordivader16:34
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BluesKajnewnub, also workspace appearance and workspace behaviour16:38
newnubi think its plasma-netbook. i just want to have it default to plasma-desktop instead. thanks for the help so far.16:40
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BluesKajnewnub, yeah, workspace behaviour>workspace>workspace type , you can change it in the dropdown16:44
newnubThanks. Got it! :D16:44
swexcan anybody help me with power devil?16:58
swexquestion is: how to choose /sys/class/backlight to use?16:59
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mamounHi, how can I disable temperature-based CPU throttling in kubuntu (If there is any)?18:27
DarthFrogmamoun: Are you on a laptop?  that sort of stuff is controlled by powerdevil, I believe.18:34
mamounYes, I'm on a laptop18:35
DarthFrogIn your systray, there should be a battery icon.  Try clicking on it.18:36
mamounok18:37
mamounShould I turn off power management? I remember reading somewhere that this disables sleep?18:38
DarthFrogUp to you.18:40
mamoun_ok, Thank you DarthFrog :)18:49
markus____I try to install chrome in 12.04 and get the error that I need to install libc618:57
markus____when I try to install libc6 it fails as well18:57
markus____when i run "apt-get -f install" it also fails18:58
lordievadermarkus____: What error do you get?19:04
markus____libc6 : Hängt ab von: libc-bin (= 2.15-0ubuntu10.3) aber 2.15-0ubuntu10.2 soll installiert werden19:05
markus____ libc6-dev : Hängt ab von: libc6 (= 2.15-0ubuntu10.2) aber 2.15-0ubuntu10.3 soll installiert werden19:05
lordievadermarkus____: And how does apt-get install -f fail?19:06
markus____E: Internal Error, No file name for libc619:06
lordievadermarkus____: See the first answer to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/167784/e-internal-error-no-file-name-for-libssl1-0-019:09
markus____lordievader: did that. installed the ssl package anew19:12
markus____does not fix the problem19:12
markus____how can I remove the packages from being installed?19:14
markus____that I at least can install other stuff?19:14
jdrsmarkus____: could you try sudo dpkg --configure -a or apt-get install libc-bin libc6 libc6-dev?19:17
lordievadermarkus____: You had to replace the ssl with libc6.19:18
lordievadermarkus____: You did everything from the apt-get update to the apt-get dist-upgrade?19:19
markus____yes. this command do not run now anymore as he always complains about missing stuff19:19
markus____How would the command look like for libc?19:20
markus____wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/102991621/libc-bin-2.15-0ubuntu10.319:20
markus____thats what I tried19:21
lordievadermarkus____: Actually you should only do these things: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1338082/19:22
userhello, i'm looking for a little asistance running seamonkey if someones got a minute19:22
markus____lordievader: that worked19:24
markus____:D19:24
lordievadermarkus____: Is libc6 now installed?19:25
markus____yes. this installed everything19:25
markus____no clue why but it worked19:25
lordievadermarkus____: Probably needed the updates of a few packages.19:28
MelRayWhat is the keystroke to clear the scrollback in the quassel window?20:08
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avihayare there packages for 4.9.3 for 12.04 in the backports PPA like the planet post said? I got nothing so far. maybe it's just my mirror not being updated?20:35
tsimpsonavihay: what planet post?20:36
avihayhttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-applications-and-platform-49320:37
tsimpsonavihay: I don't see a 4.9.3 announcement anywhere there20:38
avihayhumm20:39
tsimpsonit's actually just the front page of http://www.kubuntu.org/news probably defaults to that when a news item isn't found20:40
avihaytsimpson: well, it's in the rss feed I pulled, maybe someone put it by mistake, and pulled it out... http://pastebin.kde.org/598466/20:42
yofelit was pulled back because it was published too early20:42
tsimpsonyeah, that was my second guess20:43
yofelpackages for 12.10 are there now. 13.04 is being worked on. 12.04 might come later20:43
mr_rmusing kvm, i have a guest OS installed (windows 7) and it is able to connect to services running on the underlying host OS but not anything else on the network. somehow the NAT isn't quite right but i'm at a loss. does this sound familiar to anyone?20:48
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mr_rmwindows is resolving the hostnames to other machines on the network but everything times out. it only connects to the kubunto host os20:49
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avihaymr_rm: there are (atleast) three network configurations you can set for a network adapter20:49
avihayI guess you have one adepter in a host only network20:50
mr_rmthe vm is set to use "Virtual network 'default' : NAT20:51
avihaythe other options are NAT (can't see host) and same network as host20:51
mr_rmonly other option is to set up a bridge network so it gets its own IP20:51
mr_rmi just want it to NAT though, that would be fine20:51
tsimpsonmr_rm: did you edit /etc/sysctl.conf to enable ip forwarding?20:52
mr_rmno i did nothing with that20:52
mr_rmtsimpson: i did nothing with /etc/sysctl.conf.    didn't nkow that was necessary20:52
mr_rmtsimpson: looking at it now.20:52
tsimpsonthe system is designed not to blindly forward network traffic unless you tell it you want it to20:53
tsimpsonyou should change "net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0" to "net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1"20:53
mr_rmtsimpson: thanks very much. i'll do that. i figured there was something missing that ws dropping the packets but didn't know enough detail20:53
tsimpsonyou can do "echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" to enable it at runtime, but changing the config file is more permanent20:55
mr_rmtsimpson: i just changed it. do i need to restart networking too?20:55
tsimpsonmr_rm: just run the command above and it should switch it on20:56
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mr_rmtsimpson: "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" displays "1" but it is the same behavior. DNS resolving properly on the guest, connects to the host OS but not getting out. Is there something else that might be missing?21:26
tsimpsonmr_rm: did you make sure you set the iptables rules correctly?21:27
mr_rmtsimpson: hmmm i never explicitly set any rules21:28
tsimpsonmr_rm: have a look at: http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/nat.html21:28
mr_rmtsimpson: ok thanks. looks like i need to set up natting for virbr0 adapter.  i really appreciate the pointers21:31
tsimpsonno problem, I used that guide before so I just had to search my search history21:32
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mr_rmtsimpson: ok, those were the missing pieces: turn on ip_forward in sysctl.conf and set up the iptables rules. working like a champ now. thanks a million, you saved me a ton of time trying to dig that up. i was hoping that installing kvm and necessaries might take care of these.21:38
tsimpsonyou're welcome :)21:39
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ana__hi folks... I can't connect my network anymore. Destination host unreachable is only what I got. /etc/hosts{,.allow,deny} seems to be okay... any clues?22:47
jedihawkanyone have any experience with zfs?22:51
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