[00:11] <Robtygart> simplew: would it help to update your packages first? sudo apt-get update
[00:12] <simplew> hu?
[00:12] <simplew> that has nothing to do
[00:14] <Robtygart> but if your fetching data off the web does it run though package manager
[00:14] <Robtygart> lol
[00:15] <Gnosis-> on a laptop, how do I get the fn keys to work? In particular, the ones to brighten or dim the screen
[00:15] <Gnosis-> the increase/decrease volume ones work, but not the brighten/dim ones
[00:16] <Robtygart> Gnosis-: on my HP I have a Fn button you hold then press one of the Fkeys
[00:16] <Robtygart> F-Keys*
[00:17] <Gnosis-> Yeah, I have that too. It doesn't work even when I do this
[00:18] <OerHeks> Gnosis-, some laptops can be fixed with "acpi_backlight=vendor" in fstab >>> example http://askubuntu.com/questions/194812/cant-change-brightness-on-toshiba-l755-laptop
[00:23] <Gnosis-> OerHeks: okay, so I can write a number from 0 to 7 to /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness, and that works
[00:29] <OerHeks> Gnosis-, yes, but after restart it is set to max brightness again ...
[00:31] <Gnosis-> I don't really think that page is describing my problem, because unlike them, I _am_ able to adjust the brightness with System Settings->Power
[01:06] <swiftsword94> o.o.. well .... i guess this is to see how quassel works
[01:06] <swiftsword94> and aparently it does...
[01:12] <us0r> hello, i am looking for help with kubuntu. is this the right place to ask?
[01:12] <xixor> yes
[01:13] <us0r> excellent. i am looking for a good wysiwyg editor for kubuntu. would kompozer work or wouldyou suggest somthing else?
[01:14] <xixor> This is for documents? reports?  letters?
[01:16] <us0r> to buld and modify web documents with html, css, jquery ect
[01:16] <us0r> *build
[01:17] <xixor> Hm... with those requirements, I'm not sure.  For office documents libreOffice, Calligra, and Abiword were what I was going to recommend.
[01:17] <xixor> I'm not much of a web developer though.  So an editor with html, css, jquery is outside of my domain.  Stick around, and someone might be able to recommend something
[01:18] <tsimpson> !html
[01:20] <us0r> thank you both. @ubottu: will kompozer run on kubuntu? i attempted to install it but was unsuccessful
[01:21] <SIR_Taco> us0r: yes it will... (ubottu is a bot)
[01:23] <SIR_Taco> us0r: wich Kubuntu? 12.10?
[01:23] <us0r> ah, i see. thanks for the answer.
[01:23] <us0r> i beleive so, it was the most recent version
[01:27] <SIR_Taco> us0r: don't think Kompozer or Iceape work at the moment
[01:28] <SIR_Taco> us0r: how vested are  you in wysiwyg?
[01:52] <yoga> I am in 12.04 and want to upgrade to 12.10, I ready set "Release Upgrade" to "Normal Releases" in muon-updater, but I don't get prompt for upgrade.
[01:52] <yoga> How come.
[01:56] <SIR_Taco> yoga: how about: sudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade
[01:57] <TheLordOfTime> in terminal :P
[01:58] <SIR_Taco> yes in terminal... not on a peice of paper :P
[01:59] <TheLordOfTime> SIR_Taco, you never know, some people say "where do i type that?"
[01:59] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[01:59] <SIR_Taco> TheLordOfTime: yes... had that already toda
[01:59] <SIR_Taco> y
[02:00] <TheLordOfTime> you should hit your keyboard with a stick, the enter key is misbehaving
[02:00]  * TheLordOfTime hands SIR_Taco a stick
[02:00] <TheLordOfTime> have fun.
[02:00] <SIR_Taco> TheLordOfTime: double click my computer.... if you can reach it :P
[02:00] <yoga> SIR_Taco: is that for devel release?  The Ubuntu 2.10 already out.
[02:01] <ozzzy> I loaded 2.10 and after the 5th or 6th crash I pulled it from the machine
[02:01] <ozzzy> er... 12.10
[02:01] <SIR_Taco> yoga: 12.10 is an official release, but's it's not a long term release
[02:02] <SIR_Taco> er, long-term support release
[02:05] <yoga> SIR_Taco: ok I am running sudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade, it's doing its thing.
[02:07] <SIR_Taco> yoga: 12.10 is not a LTS (long-term support: which gives 5 years of security and stablility updates, I believe). However it *should* have some of the latest software/drivers/etc.
[02:07] <yoga> But from the stdout it says Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-yoga" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[02:07] <yoga> I might ignore that?
[02:20] <DarthFrog> yoga: Yes.
[02:21] <SIR_Taco> DarthFrog: thanks.... I'm bouncing around answering questions
[02:22] <DarthFrog> SIR_Taco: You've been eating flubber? :-)
[02:22] <SIR_Taco> I wish :P
[02:39] <ozzzy> evening Frogger
[04:58] <yoga> Do I need the internet connection after all the upgrade packages were downloaed?
[05:00] <tsimpson> yoga: not normally, the exception being flashplugin-installer and ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[05:10] <yoga> tsimpson: Will it rerun it if I got online again?
[05:12] <tsimpson> yoga: it should, but you may have to rerun the upgrade command again, or use "sudo apt-get -f install", to get it to rerun
[06:35] <noaXess> mrning
[06:37] <noaXess> here http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/Nvidia/nvidia is described that we need to add "nvidia" as driver into xorg.conf.. but if i check my xorg.conf, "nvidia" is commented out, so not used from X11... is there any other place where nvidia will be used, cause "lsmod | grep nvidia" = nvidia              11263007  44
[08:07] <Smurphy> Morning
[08:15] <rawler_> hiya..
[08:15] <rawler_> strange problem.. today when booting my laptop, the secondary HDMI display-port just wasn't detected anymore by Kubuntu..
[08:16] <rawler_> worked yesterday, so looked through the updates.. colord was the only reasonable suspect, but after reverting it, the problem still remains.. any ideas?
[09:33] <yoga`> When I click Kickoff Application Launcher, I get Favorites tab, then I type from the keyboard "Down" key, to move to the File Manager Dolphin, but if I hit enter, nothing happen.
[09:33] <yoga`> It works if I use the mouse to choose the Dolphin.  Any idea?
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:16] <Smurphy> jo ...
[12:19] <yoga`> #end
[12:56] <simplew> yofel: around?
[12:58] <yofel> simplew: yes, but I'm at work, so if it's something long it'll have to wait
[12:59] <noravingal> Cannot unlock screen from guest account kubuntu 12.10
[13:33] <mime_1111> hey ppl, ive unfinished downloading a file with ktorrent, but no more seeders at 70%. how can easily separate those that are finished, and auto pick them? they are folders with audio inside.
[13:33] <mime_1111> thnx
[13:33] <mime_1111> there are
[14:34] <snikker|2> is possible to use grub2 in dual boot (lin+win) without install grub2 also on the second disk?
[14:49] <jedihawk> boo
[14:50] <xixor> boo-urns
[14:50] <Pici> xixor: :D
[14:51] <BluesKaj> boo-hoo
[14:51] <jedihawk> I'm all new and shiny in my new Kubuntu.  warm-fuzzies for all!
[14:52] <xixor> cool
[14:52] <jedihawk> is it supposed to be only 32-bit?
[14:53] <xixor> no, there is an AMD64 kubuntu installation iso on the website for download
[14:53] <jedihawk> I must have chosen the wrong one.  I used pendrivelinux and installed from usb drive.
[14:54] <jedihawk> is it possible to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit?
[14:54] <xixor> I'm not sure
[14:56] <jedihawk> oh well.  32-bit isn't all that bad.
[14:58] <TheLordOfTime> jedihawk, if you've installed 32bit, you can't instantly switch to 64bit
[14:58] <TheLordOfTime> that's a little bit difficult/impossible
[14:59] <lordievader> jedihawk: You could check out PAE, Physical Address Extension.
[15:01] <jedihawk> with this system, I installed over what I had before.  I did not format my partitions.  so it is a little wierd, but it seems to work fine.
[15:02] <jedihawk> I may re-re-install over it again with the 64-bit version.  but it's such a hassel to re-config everything.  again.
[15:04] <xixor> jedihawk: if you have use a separate partition for /home, then all of your settings can be saved
[15:04] <jedihawk> yes, most settings were saved, that's true.  but I still had a lot of items to install and set up again.
[15:04] <xixor> except for things in /etc of course
[15:05] <xixor> I think there is a way to get a list of the packages installed on your system, and then to feed that into apt-get/dpkg/muon again, so you don't have to install them one-at-atime again
[15:06] <jedihawk> oh?  how's that work?
[15:06] <xixor> hm... not sure to be honest, something I read on ubuntuforums or something, someone here might know, or you can google around
[15:06] <yofel> wait I know
[15:07] <yofel> dpkg --get-selections | awk '!/deinstall|purge|hold/ {print $1}' > packages.list
[15:07] <yofel> save the file and later run
[15:07] <yofel> xargs -a "packages.list" sudo apt-get install
[15:07] <xixor> http://superuser.com/questions/48374/find-all-user-installed-packages
[15:07] <jedihawk> nice!
[15:09] <jedihawk> thx
[15:10] <yofel> if you have any 3rd party repositories or architecture specific stuff you might have to filter those out from the file
[15:10] <yofel> apt-get will tell you what it can't find though
[15:11] <quentin> salut
[15:12] <quentin> hello
[15:13] <Mac-Chiken> hi
[15:14] <jedihawk> greetings
[15:16] <jedihawk> how do you get your wallpaper to span both monitors?
[15:27] <xixor> jedihawk: that is something that KDE cannot do
[15:27] <xixor> jedihawk: as far as I know anyway
[15:28] <lordievader> jedihawk: Little work-around, split the image in two with gimp.
[15:28] <jedihawk> bummer.  I just used split files; one for the left, one for the right.
[15:28] <jedihawk> yaa!
[15:43] <WineQQ_> hey guys  as it seems i cant playback youtube vids with minitube ... some ideas for that ?
[15:43] <ikonia> minitube ?
[15:44] <WineQQ_> a "standalone" player for youtube video playback ... i have some bad performance issues with youtube and ubuntu 12.04
[15:45] <WineQQ_> so i thought i could try that
[15:47] <jedihawk> WineQQ_: you're not using the flash player in a browser?
[15:47] <ikonia> !info minitube
[15:49] <jedihawk> I have no experience with minitube, sorry.  I usually just download the video file and then play it locally in mplayer or some other video player.
[15:49] <zizi_> hi i have a problem installing from a tar.gz
[15:49] <zizi_> during the ./configure
[15:50] <zizi_> i get an error
[15:50] <jedihawk> zizi_: what's the package?
[15:50] <zizi_> should i paste here the errpr
[15:50] <WineQQ_> @jedihawk   yeah probably that is what im going to do ... just thought that there would be a possibility to solve that problem of bad performance
[15:50] <zizi_> http://www.dymo-label-printers.co.uk/dymo_sdk_linux.html
[15:51] <jedihawk> WineQQ_: that's how I "solved" chunkie-ness.  download, then play. (then delete)
[15:51] <jedihawk> WineQQ_: use downloadhelper plugin for firefox.
[15:52] <WineQQ_> @jedihawk  ok thank u ;)
[15:54] <jedihawk> zizi_: is the error long/huge?
[15:54] <zizi_>  nope
[15:55] <jedihawk> zizi_: okay, paste it here.
[15:55] <zizi_> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[15:55] <zizi_> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[15:55] <zizi_> /home/zizi/Λήψεις/dymo-cups-drivers-1.4.0.5/missing: Unknown `--run' option
[15:55] <zizi_> Try `/home/zizi/Λήψεις/dymo-cups-drivers-1.4.0.5/missing --help' for more information
[15:55] <zizi_> configure: WARNING: `missing' script is too old or missing
[15:55] <zizi_> checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
[15:55] <FloodBotK1> zizi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <zizi_> checking for gawk... no
[15:55] <BluesKaj> jedihawk, go to adobe and download the flashplayer , extract it , then copy or cut and paste the libflashplayer.so with root permissions  into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , there may be an alternative .so file already there but it's probly not working so delete it
[15:55] <lordievader> !paste | zizi_
[15:56] <BluesKaj> ok , gotta check some stuff ...BBL
[15:56] <zizi_> i just pasted at pastbin
[15:57] <lordievader> zizi_: Post the link here please.
[15:57] <zizi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1337588/
[15:58] <lordievader> zizi_: You do not have the C compiler, sudo apt-get install build-essentials <-- this will install a few compilers and other stuff needed for building software.
[16:00] <jedihawk> BluesKaj: even if my existing flash player works pretty good?
[16:00] <zizi_> no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[16:04] <Tm_T> jedihawk: what you're trying to do?
[16:05] <Tm_T> hmmm, or was it you at all who needed flash being installed
[16:06] <jedihawk> my flash player works fine, but it's a bit "chunky" on large videos.  so for those, I download them with downloadhelper, then play them locally with mplayer or something else, and that works fine.  that's how I watch all of freddiew's stuff.
[16:06] <jedihawk> there was another guy who was trying to get minitube running.
[16:06] <jedihawk> I've never even heard of minitube before.
[16:07] <zizi_> i have the cups library but it cant find it
[16:11] <lordievader> zizi_: Have you installed the build essentials? Is it now complaining about something else?
[16:11] <zizi_> yeah
[16:11] <lordievader> zizi_: What is it complaining about?
[16:11] <zizi_> error: Can't find cups library
[16:12] <lordievader> zizi_: apt-get install libcups2-dev
[16:13] <lordievader> zizi_: I think, or some other libcups*-dev
[16:21] <zizi_> lol
[16:21] <zizi_> error: Can't find cupsimage library
[16:22] <lordievader> zizi_: libcupsimage2-dev
[16:22] <lordievader> zizi_: What are you trying to build?
[16:23] <zizi_> http://www.dymo-label-printers.co.uk/dymo_sdk_linux.html
[16:23] <newnub> hello, i just installed kubuntu 32bit, but i don't like default desktop look (and have no idea what its called cause i've never used it before). how do i get normal KDE 4?
[16:24] <zizi_> tyvm
[16:25] <lordievader> zizi_: No problem.
[16:26] <zizi_> now where can i find what i just created?
[16:26] <lordievader> zizi_: Im not sure how the program is called but you can find its location with: whereis <program-name>
[16:29] <zizi_> i cant find it
[16:31] <lordievader> zizi_: Perhaps find can find it. find / -iname dymo
[16:32] <BluesKaj> newnub, open dolphin /help/about kde
[16:33] <BluesKaj> newnub, also open kmenu>computer>system settings>application appearance ..check out the options
[16:34] <zizi_> nothing happens
[16:34] <zizi_> anyway
[16:34] <zizi_> tyvm lordivader
[16:38] <BluesKaj> newnub, also workspace appearance and workspace behaviour
[16:40] <newnub> i think its plasma-netbook. i just want to have it default to plasma-desktop instead. thanks for the help so far.
[16:44] <BluesKaj> newnub, yeah, workspace behaviour>workspace>workspace type , you can change it in the dropdown
[16:44] <newnub> Thanks. Got it! :D
[16:58] <swex> can anybody help me with power devil?
[16:59] <swex> question is: how to choose /sys/class/backlight to use?
[18:27] <mamoun> Hi, how can I disable temperature-based CPU throttling in kubuntu (If there is any)?
[18:34] <DarthFrog> mamoun: Are you on a laptop?  that sort of stuff is controlled by powerdevil, I believe.
[18:35] <mamoun> Yes, I'm on a laptop
[18:36] <DarthFrog> In your systray, there should be a battery icon.  Try clicking on it.
[18:37] <mamoun> ok
[18:38] <mamoun> Should I turn off power management? I remember reading somewhere that this disables sleep?
[18:40] <DarthFrog> Up to you.
[18:49] <mamoun_> ok, Thank you DarthFrog :)
[18:57] <markus____> I try to install chrome in 12.04 and get the error that I need to install libc6
[18:57] <markus____> when I try to install libc6 it fails as well
[18:58] <markus____> when i run "apt-get -f install" it also fails
[19:04] <lordievader> markus____: What error do you get?
[19:05] <markus____> libc6 : Hängt ab von: libc-bin (= 2.15-0ubuntu10.3) aber 2.15-0ubuntu10.2 soll installiert werden
[19:05] <markus____>  libc6-dev : Hängt ab von: libc6 (= 2.15-0ubuntu10.2) aber 2.15-0ubuntu10.3 soll installiert werden
[19:06] <lordievader> markus____: And how does apt-get install -f fail?
[19:06] <markus____> E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6
[19:09] <lordievader> markus____: See the first answer to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/167784/e-internal-error-no-file-name-for-libssl1-0-0
[19:12] <markus____> lordievader: did that. installed the ssl package anew
[19:12] <markus____> does not fix the problem
[19:14] <markus____> how can I remove the packages from being installed?
[19:14] <markus____> that I at least can install other stuff?
[19:17] <jdrs> markus____: could you try sudo dpkg --configure -a or apt-get install libc-bin libc6 libc6-dev?
[19:18] <lordievader> markus____: You had to replace the ssl with libc6.
[19:19] <lordievader> markus____: You did everything from the apt-get update to the apt-get dist-upgrade?
[19:19] <markus____> yes. this command do not run now anymore as he always complains about missing stuff
[19:20] <markus____> How would the command look like for libc?
[19:20] <markus____> wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/102991621/libc-bin-2.15-0ubuntu10.3
[19:21] <markus____> thats what I tried
[19:22] <lordievader> markus____: Actually you should only do these things: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1338082/
[19:22] <user> hello, i'm looking for a little asistance running seamonkey if someones got a minute
[19:24] <markus____> lordievader: that worked
[19:24] <markus____> :D
[19:25] <lordievader> markus____: Is libc6 now installed?
[19:25] <markus____> yes. this installed everything
[19:25] <markus____> no clue why but it worked
[19:28] <lordievader> markus____: Probably needed the updates of a few packages.
[20:08] <MelRay> What is the keystroke to clear the scrollback in the quassel window?
[20:35] <avihay> are there packages for 4.9.3 for 12.04 in the backports PPA like the planet post said? I got nothing so far. maybe it's just my mirror not being updated?
[20:36] <tsimpson> avihay: what planet post?
[20:37] <avihay> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-applications-and-platform-493
[20:38] <tsimpson> avihay: I don't see a 4.9.3 announcement anywhere there
[20:39] <avihay> humm
[20:40] <tsimpson> it's actually just the front page of http://www.kubuntu.org/news probably defaults to that when a news item isn't found
[20:42] <avihay> tsimpson: well, it's in the rss feed I pulled, maybe someone put it by mistake, and pulled it out... http://pastebin.kde.org/598466/
[20:42] <yofel> it was pulled back because it was published too early
[20:43] <tsimpson> yeah, that was my second guess
[20:43] <yofel> packages for 12.10 are there now. 13.04 is being worked on. 12.04 might come later
[20:48] <mr_rm> using kvm, i have a guest OS installed (windows 7) and it is able to connect to services running on the underlying host OS but not anything else on the network. somehow the NAT isn't quite right but i'm at a loss. does this sound familiar to anyone?
[20:49] <mr_rm> windows is resolving the hostnames to other machines on the network but everything times out. it only connects to the kubunto host os
[20:49] <avihay> mr_rm: there are (atleast) three network configurations you can set for a network adapter
[20:50] <avihay> I guess you have one adepter in a host only network
[20:51] <mr_rm> the vm is set to use "Virtual network 'default' : NAT
[20:51] <avihay> the other options are NAT (can't see host) and same network as host
[20:51] <mr_rm> only other option is to set up a bridge network so it gets its own IP
[20:51] <mr_rm> i just want it to NAT though, that would be fine
[20:52] <tsimpson> mr_rm: did you edit /etc/sysctl.conf to enable ip forwarding?
[20:52] <mr_rm> no i did nothing with that
[20:52] <mr_rm> tsimpson: i did nothing with /etc/sysctl.conf.    didn't nkow that was necessary
[20:52] <mr_rm> tsimpson: looking at it now.
[20:53] <tsimpson> the system is designed not to blindly forward network traffic unless you tell it you want it to
[20:53] <tsimpson> you should change "net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0" to "net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1"
[20:53] <mr_rm> tsimpson: thanks very much. i'll do that. i figured there was something missing that ws dropping the packets but didn't know enough detail
[20:55] <tsimpson> you can do "echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" to enable it at runtime, but changing the config file is more permanent
[20:55] <mr_rm> tsimpson: i just changed it. do i need to restart networking too?
[20:56] <tsimpson> mr_rm: just run the command above and it should switch it on
[21:26] <mr_rm> tsimpson: "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" displays "1" but it is the same behavior. DNS resolving properly on the guest, connects to the host OS but not getting out. Is there something else that might be missing?
[21:27] <tsimpson> mr_rm: did you make sure you set the iptables rules correctly?
[21:28] <mr_rm> tsimpson: hmmm i never explicitly set any rules
[21:28] <tsimpson> mr_rm: have a look at: http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/nat.html
[21:31] <mr_rm> tsimpson: ok thanks. looks like i need to set up natting for virbr0 adapter.  i really appreciate the pointers
[21:32] <tsimpson> no problem, I used that guide before so I just had to search my search history
[21:38] <mr_rm> tsimpson: ok, those were the missing pieces: turn on ip_forward in sysctl.conf and set up the iptables rules. working like a champ now. thanks a million, you saved me a ton of time trying to dig that up. i was hoping that installing kvm and necessaries might take care of these.
[21:39] <tsimpson> you're welcome :)
[22:47] <ana__> hi folks... I can't connect my network anymore. Destination host unreachable is only what I got. /etc/hosts{,.allow,deny} seems to be okay... any clues?
[22:51] <jedihawk> anyone have any experience with zfs?
[23:38] <xixor> sup