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| gunta5 | Help I could use help. I had a bug loading Lubuntu 12.10 on my ubuntu 10.10 | 01:28 |
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| lubuntamente | salve...mi domando se è possibile installare lubuntu senza essere connessi | 03:47 |
| lubuntamente | ho provato svariate volte e in modalità diverse | 03:48 |
| lubuntamente | ma nulla da fare | 03:48 |
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| phiscribe | has anyone successfully upgraded to 12.10 from a in place 12.04 installation? i have not tried. every time i have tried that in the past things go to hell in a gold plated basket. i just have barely gotten this 12.04 box to my liking and would like to avoid a clean install if possible. | 14:52 |
| holstein | phiscribe: i had an ubuntustudio upgrade work | 14:58 |
| holstein | phiscribe: i would just run 12.04 | 14:59 |
| holstein | i only do upgrades to test.. i find it much easier/faster/more-successful to just fresh install | 14:59 |
| phiscribe | some stuff isnt getting into back ports, which leads to the yellow brick road of PPA's all over the place, (not the wonderful wizard) | 15:00 |
| holstein | phiscribe: would you like information on backkporting? | 15:00 |
| phiscribe | clean install is great for getting started. i got stuff i dont wanna have to redo on this system. application settings windows sizes positions podcasts notes. i normal clean install too. but just this time its more dreadful | 15:03 |
| holstein | i would just back up my data, as i would anyway, and then copy the /home... or consider something like ubuntuone for sync | 15:04 |
| phiscribe | even that is dreadful. i want to use it not service it. i guess ill just keep 12.04 and go with ppa's till it all breaks | 15:05 |
| holstein | well, you need to have your data backedup anyway.. i usually just use it as an excuse to test my backups | 15:06 |
| phiscribe | some stuff cant be backuped easily or i dont know how, or it will take a 4 hour tutorial. like how to keep all the chat rooms in irc in my client when i clean install | 15:06 |
| holstein | imagine the hard driver died, as it will... and that is what you are recovering from | 15:06 |
| phiscribe | its not data so much as personization, like a nice comfy shirt | 15:06 |
| holstein | phiscribe: i literally just copy the /home | 15:07 |
| holstein | phiscribe: the .config and other settings are there | 15:07 |
| holstein | phiscribe: if you have changed global settings, go and grab those too | 15:07 |
| holstein | phiscribe: they are usually text files, and shouldnt take long to find and copy | 15:07 |
| phiscribe | and they dont always work from applicaiton vesion 1 to version 1.1 | 15:08 |
| phiscribe | for 50 apps | 15:08 |
| holstein | phiscribe: i find they typically do alright.. just like when you upgrade the app from the repos | 15:08 |
| phiscribe | each one with its own idiosyncratic oddities, so much hassle | 15:08 |
| holstein | phiscribe: each application is allowed to use the config.. and the dev's try to keep it clean that way | 15:09 |
| holstein | phiscribe: if you would like to try and have specific issues, those can be discussed | 15:09 |
| phiscribe | ive had often after a new distro release that the config will cause the app not to start or be buggy. then you spend 2 hours figuring out why, or delete it and do a realy clean install | 15:09 |
| holstein | phiscribe: which app? which version? | 15:10 |
| holstein | phiscribe: what is the bug#? | 15:10 |
| holstein | lots of users just keep a dedicated seperate /home and never format that... share it between distros or whatever | 15:11 |
| phiscribe | broswers music apps office stuff im not talking specifics, just that the approach of keeping the old config file often fails, very often. i suppose because the apps and the way they use the config files change with new versions. | 15:11 |
| holstein | phiscribe: i would need specifics to be constructive | 15:11 |
| phiscribe | the whole point is to avoid any of that and just use the thing | 15:11 |
| holstein | phiscribe: it hasnt often failed for me though | 15:12 |
| holstein | phiscribe: i would just use the 12.04.. i still have 10.04 on my audio production machine | 15:12 |
| phiscribe | pulseaudio comes to mind rapidly | 15:12 |
| holstein | lubuntu doesnt ship with pulse | 15:12 |
| phiscribe | as most of the apps i use dont either | 15:12 |
| holstein | i have systems that are using pulse and using alsa only.. sometiems i have issues both places... | 15:13 |
| phiscribe | i don know how we tured donw this alley. i was just wondering if anyone had tried the inplace 12.04 to 12.10 yet and got it to work. i somtimes use the nickname cleaninstall. i know it is like industrial strength liquid plumber. but this time, i just dont have the heart. | 15:14 |
| holstein | phiscribe: it worked fine for me,and the QA tests on upgrades worked fine | 15:14 |
| phiscribe | i may ry that then :) | 15:15 |
| phiscribe | try | 15:15 |
| holstein | OH.. i thought it was failing for you? | 15:15 |
| holstein | phiscribe: you havent tried it yet?.. | 15:15 |
| phiscribe | if it works, maybe ill knock on wood and try my kubuntu 12.04 box | 15:15 |
| holstein | i *always* try the live CD first anyways | 15:15 |
| phiscribe | no not yet, was putting a toe in the water | 15:15 |
| holstein | i still find it faster and easier to just fresh install.. but there are issues both ways | 15:16 |
| phiscribe | such and upgrade in other distros for and in place upgrade has wrecked havoc in the past. but it is something i really wish worked better. often it was some kde thing so maybe lxde will go better | 15:17 |
| holstein | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ is an easy way to make your upgrades or tests count... | 15:17 |
| holstein | phiscribe: can always be a hardware support issue | 15:17 |
| holstein | i havent had any havoc wrecked on me that i didnt feel like i had caused... or incorrectly implemented.. upgrades can break things.. a kernel upgrade can break support | 15:18 |
| phiscribe | should i do it from the command line or run update-manager -d | 15:20 |
| holstein | what do i do?. like i said, i use it as a chance to restore from backups.. when that hard drive you are using fails, then you will lose all the customization. might as well implement something now to safely restore settings | 15:20 |
| holstein | phiscribe: i would do it however you are most comfortable | 15:20 |
| phiscribe | ok ill give it whirl | 15:20 |
| phiscribe | too late to turn back now hehe. thanks for chatting | 15:24 |
| holstein | like i said, i *always* try the live CD, to see about hardware support | 15:36 |
| holstein | but, you'll probably be fine... i just dont like "probably".. i like to see the kernel running on the actual hardware, and run lspci and see that the network devices are working and sound... and if not, see how much of a pain it could be to get it running | 15:37 |
| holstein | one could upgrade from one version to the next, and lose support for a key piece of hardware that would break functionality.. and i think that is misinterpreted as an upgrade issue | 15:37 |
| holstein | all the packages get upgrades just as they should, and if those new packages dont support that hardware, that is not an issue with the upgrade, thats a compatibilty issue | 15:38 |
| holstein | its not ideal, nor consoling after you wait 7 hours on an upgrade, and the destop doesnt boot.. or you get kernel panics... but still, i dont see that as an issue with the upgrade process | 15:39 |
| phiscribe | well hopefully that wont happen. worst case i go back to 12.04. but i think ill be all right. no wifi. no fancy stuff | 15:39 |
| holstein | thats why i usually just have a good backup scenario, and fresh install..after trying the live CD. i find best case scenario, after a 5+hour upgrade process, maybe everything is mostly OK | 15:40 |
| phiscribe | just an old box next to my other machine for streaming stuff mostly. news vids music | 15:40 |
| holstein | an install takes 8 minutes | 15:40 |
| phiscribe | backing it up and restoring takes almost as long as just reconfiguring, at least it can. but ive already took the red pill its instaling | 15:41 |
| holstein | i would say, it takes me less than 30 minutes now | 15:41 |
| holstein | depending on the size backup media, clonezilla clones are pretty fast as well | 15:42 |
| phiscribe | lol not 8 minutes here | 16:10 |
| phiscribe | more like 85. p4 1g | 16:12 |
| phiscribe | just finished and rebooted all seems well :) | 16:47 |
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| icicle | hello | 18:31 |
| icicle | Will Lubuntu work with 512 mb ram? | 18:31 |
| icicle | 2.1 ghz computer? | 18:32 |
| icicle | NVIIDA fx 520 | 18:32 |
| icicle | 529 | 18:32 |
| icicle | fx5299 | 18:32 |
| icicle | fx5200 | 18:32 |
| searching | yes | 18:34 |
| icicle | How well? | 18:34 |
| icicle | 2.1 ghz single core | 18:34 |
| icicle | 512 mb ram | 18:35 |
| icicle | NVIDIA fx5200 | 18:35 |
| searching | I have 2.4 | 18:35 |
| Unit193 | icicle: You just said this. Try it and see if it works well enough for you. | 18:35 |
| icicle | single core? | 18:35 |
| searching | video card i don't know | 18:35 |
| searching | Unit193 I have a kernel panic | 18:36 |
| searching | say that:panic occurred,swithcing back to text console | 18:36 |
| szczur | i used lubuntu on Celeron 2.0 GHz with the same GFX card and amount of ram but it was 2 years ago. I guess it should work without problem | 18:36 |
| searching | and than find in the log dmsg this:init: failsafe main process (675) killed by TERM signal | 18:37 |
| searching | icicle if lubuntu freeze update kernel version | 18:38 |
| icicle | what about iT? | 18:38 |
| icicle | szczur: How fast was it? | 18:39 |
| searching | Unit193 u can help me? | 18:39 |
| szczur | it worked well for internet browsing | 18:39 |
| szczur | you can forget of course about 720p on YT | 18:40 |
| szczur | but otherwise it worked flawlessly | 18:40 |
| szczur | i talk of course about experience from 2 years ago | 18:41 |
| szczur | so it could change a little | 18:41 |
| searching | szczur u have kernel panic with lubuntu? | 18:42 |
| Unit193 | searching: I'd find what the exact messages are and search the forums, or askbuntu for them. | 18:43 |
| szczur | i don't use lubuntu now | 18:43 |
| searching | I had searched but don't know how to fix | 18:43 |
| searching | alt+ctrl+f1 not working | 18:50 |
| adamgolding | can anyone successfully install ckpt on a modern version of lubuntu? | 19:16 |
| leszek | hi | 19:59 |
| fomg-optimize | Hello people! I have been running Chromium and Aurora/Firefox in low memory environments. Aurora is much better att handling low memory. Chromium runs out and starts dumping tabs, you get "it's dead Jim!"-notices. While I am a huge Star Trek fan i prefer my browsing undead. | 21:29 |
| fomg-optimize | If anyone finds it worth considering, please consider changing to Firefox as default browser | 21:30 |
| fomg-optimize | It's dead jim is just dumping a tab from any website and showing an error message until you reload | 21:30 |
| fomg-optimize | Aurora handles the same sites fine | 21:30 |
| fomg-optimize | This is all of course with lubuntu 12.10 | 21:31 |
| fomg-optimize | The reason is most leikely due to Chromium being run in multiple instances, a single one for each tab, the os starts dumping the inactive instances/tabs. While aurora remains in memory | 21:33 |
| fomg-optimize | And working fine | 21:33 |
| fomg-optimize | And I do want to thank the community for the lovely Lubuntu distro, great work people. Loving it! | 21:34 |
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