[00:01] <JoseeAntonioR> huh?
[00:01] <cjohnston> the only way I know of to get the IDs is from the export for the sprint
[00:09] <JoseeAntonioR> cjohnston: when I put the spec url, it doesn't display the icon
[00:09] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm using http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~joseeantonior/summit/1073635-fix/revision/476
[00:17] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: the BP ID is an integer
[00:17] <cjohnston> try  agenda.meeting.spec_url
[00:23] <JoseeAntonioR> let's try
[00:26] <JoseeAntonioR> it works!
[00:27] <JoseeAntonioR> doing MP now
[00:31] <bkerensa> cjohnston: yeah it appears my account may have been compromised that or a linked app
[00:31] <bkerensa> cjohnston: passwords being changed and revoking all apps
[00:33] <bkerensa> mhall119: might you have a screenshot? oddly its not showing in my message history
[00:35] <mhall119> bkerensa: http://ubuntuone.com/2OE31TiK19A7PyHe9HH2XZ
[00:36] <bkerensa> mhall119: thanks yeah I was out for lunch and got a bunch of pitchfork folk :)
[00:36] <bkerensa> no idea but all my account passwords are changed
[00:36] <cjohnston> 123456 doesn't work anymore
[00:36] <snap-l> shit
[00:37] <bkerensa> cjohnston: :) I use very strong passwords unique to every site and change them semi-annually
[00:37]  * snap-l now has to change his luiggage
[00:37] <mhall119> the warning icon says "Unable to confirm Benjamin Kerensa as the sender", so I'm assuming it's an app
[00:37] <bkerensa> mhall119: ahh thanks
[00:37] <bkerensa> see
[00:37] <bkerensa> I didnt think it could possibly be my account
[00:37] <bkerensa> revoking all apps for good practice :P
[00:38] <snap-l> Yeah, the whole Twitter / Facebook apps ecology is ripe for bad things to happen
[00:38] <snap-l> sorry, but I don't need to give your company access to my account to speak on my behalf.
[00:38] <snap-l> I get in enough trouble with two hands and a keyboard, thankyouverymuch
[00:39] <snap-l> (Sometimes even one hand and a sandwich)
[00:39] <bkerensa> :D
[01:39] <bkerensa> mhall119 / cjohnston: thanks for letting me know :) the situation should now be mitigated
[01:39] <bkerensa> 918 clicks later
[01:39] <bkerensa> ;p
[03:23] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro_: do you have an estimate of how much traffic does ubuntuonair.com generates? IS is asking for that info
[05:17] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: I can tell u one sec
[05:20] <JoseeAntonioR> bkerensa: thanks
[05:21] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: per month?
[05:21] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[05:22] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: Oct: 2,704 Pageviews and Sept 6,491 pageviews
[05:22] <bkerensa> so
[05:22] <bkerensa> not that much
[05:22] <bkerensa> Sept was the highest month
[05:22] <JoseeAntonioR> any estimate in kb?
[05:22] <bkerensa> what?
[05:22] <bkerensa> is this for hosting?
[05:22] <JoseeAntonioR> yes
[05:26] <philballew_> my vps hosting is like 4 dollars a month
[05:29] <JoseeAntonioR> my vps hosting is free
[05:30] <philballew_> from that free thing?
[05:30] <philballew_> I use that to
[05:31] <JoseeAntonioR> I use OVH
[05:34] <philballew_> yeah, there free for me to
[05:34] <philballew_> I also use linode
[05:34] <philballew_> I was with bkerensa and they saw his arm art, hooked me up as well.
[05:35] <bkerensa> philballew: one of Linode's main guys is from Oregon
[05:35] <bkerensa> :)
[05:35] <bkerensa> plenty of them are Ubuntu Users too
[05:36] <philballew_> ah, its a nice system. I am about to use that go daddy thing you gave me 2 weeks ago bkerensa
[05:37] <philballew_> hope it still works
[06:55] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: Google does not yet support the Yubikey natively
[07:01] <philballew_> i keep hearing about the yubikey. Seems nice
[07:16] <philballew> bkerensa, the go daddy deal you sent me is no good. do you know where I can look for different ones?
[07:16] <bkerensa> philballew: it expired?
[07:16] <bkerensa> idk let me look
[07:17] <philballew> bkerensa, the website said it did.
[07:17] <philballew> I can try again, but thats what they said
[07:18] <bkerensa> philballew: https://www.godaddy.com/?isc=gofbh005
[07:18] <bkerensa> you should see a offer ad at the top of the site
[07:18] <bkerensa> just click that
[07:18] <bkerensa> should be $1.99 per year
[07:19] <bkerensa> notably though Godaddy sucks ;P
[07:20] <philballew> its true, but all I wanna do is set up a wp site
[07:20] <philballew> for s single vps, nothing fancy with juju or anything cloud related
[07:20] <philballew> I never have anyone visit my blog
[07:22] <philballew> maybe I need cool articles like b
[07:22] <philballew> bkerensa, ...
[07:26] <philballew> bkerensa, order went through. Thanks.
[07:26]  * philballew has never owned a domain before and has no idea what to do now
[07:26] <philballew> oh the feeling of confusion...
[07:31] <bkerensa> praise jeebus :P
[07:31] <philballew> That's from the Simpson's!
[07:42] <dholbach> good morning
[07:42] <philballew> morning dholbach
[07:43] <dholbach> hi philballew
[07:47] <elfy> morning dholbach
[07:47] <dholbach> hi elfy
[08:41] <bkerensa> dholbach: :) good way to start your first commit as a co-maintainer is to blow up the branch ;p
[08:41] <bkerensa> :s
[08:41] <bkerensa> I do not like svn
[08:42] <dholbach> bkerensa, good luck :)
[08:42] <philballew> don't worry bkerensa I dont even have a branch to mess up
[08:46] <elfy> branches should be on trees ...
[08:57] <bkerensa> elfy: how could we have warm fires then?
[08:57] <bkerensa> :D
[09:12] <elfy> fires ? I just put 20 jumpers on ;)
[09:12] <czajkowski> it's not that cold
[09:13] <elfy> it certainly isn't :) just a bit parky down here
[09:25] <philballew> dholbach, whens a good time to go over those videos?
[09:26] <dholbach> philballew, I haven't yet started to put together scripts for the videos
[09:26] <philballew> no hurry dholbach
[09:26] <dholbach> but I can ping you when I have if that's alright?
[09:27] <philballew> Yeah, ping me whenever you do that. From the uds session it appears I am doing the non technical planning got these things and just figured I can meet whenever.
[09:27] <dholbach> awesome
[09:27] <philballew> sweet!
[09:48] <dholbach> huats, czajkowski: can we do something to make Prince Matthew feel welcome to contribute to the LoCo space?
[09:48] <dholbach> huats, czajkowski: maybe coolbhavi could have a call with the guy?
[09:49] <czajkowski> dholbach: morning
[09:49] <dholbach> hey czajkowski
[09:49] <czajkowski> yes the indian loco is something we've bene discussing for many months
[09:50] <czajkowski> there are a few locos in similar circumstances, and coolbhavi said he would talk to the team contact
[09:50] <dholbach> it feels to me like everybody dog-piles on the poor guy for not following the rules when all he did was offer help (but admittedly may have some catching up to do)
[09:50] <czajkowski> nods
[09:50] <czajkowski> it is difficult to see the line between a translation team and a loco team at times
[09:51] <czajkowski> shall poke coolbhavi and see if he can talk to him
[09:51] <dholbach> thanks czajkowski
[09:51] <czajkowski> np
[09:51] <dholbach> I wasn't picking on you right now
[09:51] <czajkowski> I replied once this morning , but tend to colapse non work mail during the day as it gets distracting
[09:51] <dholbach> it's just that it'd be nice if we as a community saw the opportunity as opposed to "the problem" when somebody talked to us
[09:51] <czajkowski> dholbach: I know you weren't :)
[10:47] <cjohnston> mornin
[10:53] <nigelb> hi cjohnston
[11:01] <czajkowski> cjohnston: your bug on timeouts on LP, were you doing anything in particular, cannot get it to do it at all in the last 4 hours.
[11:01] <cjohnston> :-(
[11:01] <cjohnston> just trying to visit the page to see the BPs
[11:02] <czajkowski> working fine all day
[11:02] <czajkowski> eveyrone that has tried it as well had no issue
[11:02] <czajkowski> hmm
[11:02] <czajkowski> goes back to bugs
[11:02] <cjohnston> Error ID: OOPS-d3ac9191d5a68c55af994c265fb45d23   <-- just got it czajkowski
[11:03] <czajkowski> yeah I got the ops
[11:03] <czajkowski> just cannt recreate it here at all
[11:03] <czajkowski> but an oops is an oops
[11:03] <czajkowski> it's a bug
[11:03] <cjohnston> ok
[11:04] <czajkowski> but find it hard to duplicate
[11:04] <cjohnston> ty
[11:05] <nigelb> cjohnston: I'm guessing you don't have a django_session table
[11:06] <nigelb> err.
[11:06]  * nigelb switches to PM
[11:24] <nigelb> czajkowski: Hey, do you have a few minutes to chat?
[11:24] <nigelb> Or should I email you?
[11:24] <czajkowski> nigelb: eh not really just heading out and into the office
[11:24] <nigelb> I'll email you
[11:24] <czajkowski> can you pm me and I'll get back to you or emaik
[11:24] <czajkowski> *email
[11:24] <czajkowski> sorry
[12:25] <popey> AlanBell, czajkowski so what's the plan for fixing the etherpad so people can see it?
[12:25] <popey> there's nothing on the remote participation page which details how one gets access
[12:27] <AlanBell> the plan is that I would love some help with it
[12:28] <popey> well, simply documenting what people need to do is a good start I think?
[12:29] <nigelb> AlanBell: what do you need help with?
[12:29] <nigelb> Also, did you see ethercalc?
[12:29] <nigelb> Same principle as etherpad but spreadsheet.
[12:38] <dholbach> can somebody add the dates to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-r-irc-workshops? didn't we agree on them in the session?
[12:50] <daker> bug #1075539
[12:50] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1075539 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Lack of privacy when changing session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1075539
[12:51] <popey> daker, thats a dupe i think
[12:51]  * popey looks for it
[12:53] <popey> bug 390989 perhaps
[12:53] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 390989 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu) "[SecurityRoadmap] Locked screen shows the desktop" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/390989
[12:53] <popey> happens surprisingly often
[12:53] <daker> thanks popey
[13:38] <AlanBell> popey: most people will just have access already, if they are in any reasonable launchpad group (like a loco team)
[13:38] <AlanBell> if they don't have access the error message should tell them what to do (and that does work because we get requests from people to join the group)
[13:39] <AlanBell> and, if we get it fixed right for next time the whole problem goes away
[13:39] <popey> the error doesnt tell them anything
[13:39] <popey> i tried with a new launchpad account
[13:39] <AlanBell> how do they all end up applying for the group then?
[13:40] <cjohnston> It doesn't, and other than being told about it, I don't know
[13:40] <popey> no, imagine the workflow of starting at summit.ubuntu.com -> uds -> find a session, click it
[13:40] <AlanBell> it certainly used to be fairly informative
[13:40] <popey> then login to LP, login to SSO
[13:40] <popey> then you get an obtuse SSO error
[13:40] <nigelb> People tell them to sign up.
[13:40] <AlanBell> ok, well that is crap then, but can't be fixed except by the people who run that reverse proxy sso thing
[13:40] <AlanBell> so we need to get rid of all that
[13:40] <popey> nigelb, "people"?
[13:41] <nigelb> popey: They ask around
[13:41] <popey> no, they dont
[13:41] <nigelb> That's what someone I talked to told me.
[13:41] <popey> thats not scalable
[13:41] <nigelb> Of course not.
[13:41] <popey> they are sat at home and trying to participate and cant
[13:41] <nigelb> popey: I'm agreeing with you.
[13:41] <popey> ok
[13:41] <AlanBell> the reverse proxy sso is fundamentally broken, it was shoved in place because some journalist linked directly to a pad and then it got vandalised
[13:42] <popey> sure
[13:42] <AlanBell> it's primary purpose is to make it slightly hard to get access
[13:42] <popey> i know why it all exists, just trying to find a better solution than an obtuse sso message
[13:42] <AlanBell> however we need to have live read only pads
[13:42] <AlanBell> because that is the way to get rid of the sso
[13:42] <AlanBell> https://github.com/Pita/etherpad-lite/wiki/HTTP-API
[13:43] <nigelb> Can we do this?
[13:43] <nigelb> If someone is logged into summit and member of the right team -> show them the pad.
[13:43] <AlanBell> is the API that could allow summit to generate secured pads, and etherpad needs a bit of hacking to have a "show live read only pad" to other people
[13:43] <AlanBell> I have had that bit working
[13:43] <nigelb> If logged and not member of the right team -> show readonly version but with warning on how to show read only.
[13:43] <czajkowski> my inbox went a bit mental monday and tuesday with requests to join
[13:43] <AlanBell> sure, this can be done
[13:44] <popey> it would indeed be nice to have RO version of the page to anyone/everyone, logged in or not
[13:44] <AlanBell> yes indeed
[13:44] <nigelb> agreed.
[13:44] <popey> but that is $work someone has to do
[13:44] <AlanBell> yup
[13:44] <nigelb> o/
[13:45] <popey> the initial fix is to document it
[13:45] <popey> because right now the process isn't documented anywhere
[13:45] <nigelb> is documenting on summit, enough?
[13:45] <popey> well, its not on the "remote participation" page which surprised me
[13:45] <nigelb> Aha.
[13:45] <cjohnston> I don't want to show on summit to every person "join this team"
[13:45] <popey> which people could be linked to
[13:46] <popey> why? its a restricted team isnt it?
[13:46] <nigelb> cjohnston: You only have to show to people who are not logged in.
[13:46] <nigelb> And people who are not members of the team.
[13:46] <cjohnston> nigelb: summit doesnt know if people are logged into the etherpad
[13:46] <nigelb> cjohnston: logged in to summit.
[13:46] <AlanBell> http://uds.ubuntu.com/community/remote-participation/ is in the wordpress instance I think
[13:46] <cjohnston> AlanBell: it is
[13:47] <cjohnston> nigelb: there are people who are logged into summit who dont have acess
[13:47] <popey> yes, thats the page that has no detail about it
[13:47] <AlanBell> so, someone could update that for the benefit of people looking back at uds-r
[13:47] <czajkowski> cjohnston: surely it's niec to show people how to get involved, rather than people being locked out
[13:47] <czajkowski> as soon as I sent the mail going you need to join this team I had 20 mails asking to join
[13:47] <cjohnston> it will clutter up an already cluttered page
[13:47] <czajkowski> we should be putting this info out there
[13:47] <cjohnston> im not saying it shouldnt be out there
[13:48] <czajkowski> cjohnston: summit is a community site, so surely we get a say on what goes on it
[13:48]  * AlanBell agrees with cjohnston
[13:48] <AlanBell> this is throwaway code
[13:48] <cjohnston> czajkowski: UDS isnt the only thing that uses summit
[13:48] <AlanBell> lets do it properly
[13:48] <czajkowski> cjohnston: it's the largest group by far
[13:48] <AlanBell> it would be great if someone with access to the wordpress site updates it
[13:49] <cjohnston> AlanBell: I believe its in a bzr branch
[13:49] <AlanBell> and it would be great if we can get the problem solved for uds-s
[13:51] <cjohnston> another fix would be to modify the SSO code to explain why a user isnt able to access something... which would be a better global fix because it would work for anything that uses SSO... 'you cant access site X because you aren't a member of team Y'
[13:51] <popey> i fear that wont be easy
[13:51] <popey> it could reveal stuff it shouldn't
[13:52] <AlanBell> sso isn't open source is it?
[13:52] <nigelb> it is
[13:52] <nigelb> I've patched it.
[13:52] <nigelb> err
[13:52] <popey> "you can't access secretthing because you aren't a member of secretprojectname"
[13:52] <nigelb> tried.
[13:52] <nigelb> :P
[13:52] <cjohnston> well, if you found secretthing then telling you that you cant access secretthing isnt telling them something they dont know... secretteamname maybe
[13:53] <nigelb> Nah, that's still privacy leak
[13:53] <cjohnston> but since there is private teams and private projects, SSO could be made to learn about private and not give out private info
[13:57] <czajkowski> pprivate projects is in beta!
[13:57] <AlanBell> so one thing I was trying to do was extend the summit object to add a field for the API key for an associated etherpad lite instance
[13:57] <AlanBell> so that summit could create the pads and grant access to them
[13:59] <nigelb> AlanBell: we should work together. I know I couldn't do that the last I promised to work on this.
[13:59] <nigelb> But let me give it a shot this cycle.
[13:59] <nigelb> I'll have free time once I get rid of projects I have on my plate
[13:59] <AlanBell> that would be great, I was prioritising IRCC stuff last cycle
[14:00] <nigelb> I'm not doing anything Ubuntu at the moment, and I can convince cjohnston that this is Ubuntu work ;)
[14:00] <AlanBell> and every time I went to look at Summit I had to nuke it all and reconfigure the whole thing because I was so far behind on updates
[14:00] <nigelb> s/Ubuntu/summit/g
[14:00] <nigelb> AlanBell: that's usually not needed. we run migrations.
[14:01] <AlanBell> yeah, I don't think I really understand those at all
[14:01] <nigelb> Every time I look at summit, I wank to kick Keybuk :P
[14:02] <nigelb> Actually, it's only for one bit of code. It's painfully hard to rewrite.
[14:02] <nigelb> g32
[14:02] <nigelb> (grr)
[14:02] <cjohnston> BINGO!
[14:10] <Pici> you sunk my battleship!
[14:10] <IdleOne> Go fish.
[14:48] <dholbach> balloons, mhall119: hey guys - did you get a bit more sleep last night?
[14:48] <balloons> hey dholbach .. I slept in today
[14:48] <balloons> 0539
[14:49] <czajkowski> dholbach: your mix tunes are keeping me and the cloud engineering folks wide awake today!
[14:49] <jcastro_> did someone say sleep?
[14:49] <balloons> ohh.. I still need to listen to dpm's mixes.. I'm two behind
[14:49] <nigelb> jcastro_: you were dreaming, go back to bed.
[14:49]  * balloons puts headphones on
[14:49] <czajkowski> http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach/cant-get-you-out-of-my-head/
[14:49] <czajkowski> bopping head and working away!
[14:50] <dholbach> czajkowski, thanks muchly - I got myself some more new music so in the next days I hope I'll have something presentable :)
[14:50] <czajkowski> whoooo
[14:50] <czajkowski> new tunes!
[14:53] <mhall119> dholbach: doing better, still up before my alarm though
[14:53] <balloons> so dpm you can swing dance now right?
[14:59] <mhall119> cjohnston: do blueprints need to be in a specific state to get on status.u.c?
[14:59] <cjohnston> they have to be accepted
[15:00] <mhall119> in the "Series goal"?
[15:01] <cjohnston> yes
[15:01] <mhall119> ok, thanks
[15:01] <dpm> balloons, yeah :)
[15:06] <czajkowski> mhall119: s when does voting close and counting start so we can all breath a sigh of relief that obama has been elected :)
[15:06] <czajkowski> paddy power the bookies back home has already paid out
[15:07] <cjohnston> voting starts to end at 7pm est.. I suspect either a landslide one way or the other or it not to be complete for a couple of das
[15:07] <cjohnston> days
[15:08] <IdleOne> lol, one of the two candidates will win.
[15:08] <IdleOne> that is my prediction
[15:10] <cjohnston> there are ~12 on the ballot.. not 2
[15:10] <czajkowski> www.breakingnews.ie/world/paddy-power-pays-out-on-obama-victory-572945.html
[15:11] <IdleOne> cjohnston: like the other 10 have any chance
[15:11] <czajkowski> about £400,000 so far paid out
[15:12] <cjohnston> be funny if he doesnt win
[15:12] <czajkowski> chances are he will though :)
[15:13] <balloons> not brillant at all for a bookie
[15:13] <balloons> your supposed to not payout -- even when you have to
[15:13] <czajkowski> balloons: think the entire world wants him to win in this case so the bookies done mind paying out
[15:13] <balloons> there's a reason they have silly score spreads and other things.. forcing the buyer to win and jump through hoops to get paid
[15:14] <IdleOne> I don't think that is how gambling works. People always want to win, bookies don't pay out on the wants of people.
[15:14] <balloons> czajkowski, they will get there wish.. obameny will win
[15:14] <czajkowski> balloons: I hope so!
[15:15] <balloons> lol... you can't go wrong.. both major parties are the same sad song
[15:15] <czajkowski> well...
[15:16] <balloons> So I wonder if the bookie got a lot of money on the romney bets?
[15:16] <czajkowski> I suspect not in ireland :)
[15:16] <czajkowski> we tend to like Obama there
[15:16] <popey> plenty of people want neither Obama or Romney to win, sadly they have little choice
[15:16] <czajkowski> same way we didnt like bush but loved clinton
[15:17] <balloons> popey, indeed.. I think the majority wants neither actually
[15:17] <popey> yeah
[15:18] <cjohnston> the problem is that for >50 years the country has voted for the lesser of two evils instead of the best candidate, which will continue on today
[15:18] <balloons> I took a look at paddy power.. pretty odd.. you can bet on obama's electoral college votes, but not romney's :-) romney is a 4/1.. probably not many takers for them
[15:18] <balloons> cjohnston, indeed.. we don't vote for a canindate here
[15:18] <balloons> we vote against a candidate
[15:18] <cjohnston> yup
[15:19] <cjohnston> the worst part is that the two candidates are the same
[15:19] <balloons> popey, czajkowski so can you legllay bet on elections in the UK?
[15:19] <popey> you can bet on pretty much anything
[15:19] <czajkowski> we'll they've been vocally different on some key issues.
[15:19] <popey> be nice if the liberal or greens got a look in
[15:19] <czajkowski> balloons: same in .ie also
[15:19] <czajkowski> padyd power will give you odds on most things
[15:19] <balloons> is it considered a "gray" area to do so? Would people look down on you, etc?
[15:19] <popey> at least to be in the debate
[15:20] <czajkowski> we had greens in power in .ie
[15:20] <balloons> doesn't seem like it at all
[15:20] <czajkowski> then they caused the country to fall, so never ever again
[15:20] <balloons> in the states, you wouldn't technically be allowed to bet on an election
[15:21] <czajkowski> mates have gone to paddy power and asked about odds on X they go away for a week and research things and then come back and offer a spread
[15:21] <czajkowski> like one was on a 3 year sparead over a person getting to play for ireland as he was on local level now, so they reseached his plays and scores.
[15:22] <balloons> ohh interesting.. betting on elections years away.. based on the "new" talent coming in
[15:22] <czajkowski> balloons: yes but in the USA, you also have stuff liek this happenign, http://url.ie/g7wf
[15:22] <czajkowski> that kids is amazing, shame she's getting bullied for her parents being two men :(
[15:24] <popey> i dont think that's unique to the usa
[15:25] <czajkowski> maybe more vocal I suspect
[15:25] <balloons> people harassing each other over differences? nope.. sadly that's a human problem
[15:25] <popey> nah, it's just a bigger country
[15:25] <popey> so more of them
[15:26] <czajkowski> nods
[15:30] <mhall119> czajkowski: the 2012 election will be over in about a week
[15:30] <mhall119> election today, then a week of wailing and knashing of teeth
[15:30] <mhall119> then we'll all start talking about taking back the House/Senate in the 2014 midterms
[15:30] <balloons> maybe the robocalls will end though mhall119
[15:31] <popey> :)
[15:31] <mhall119> balloons: maybe, but the yard signs will be up until christmas
[15:31] <czajkowski> mhall119: you say this like there is another one ....
[15:31] <czajkowski> bah
[15:31] <balloons> mhall119, so true!
[15:31] <mhall119> czajkowski: the next one starts tomorrow :)
[15:31] <czajkowski> can ye not just have a term for 7 years and suck it up for 6 please
[15:31] <czajkowski> :)
[15:31] <mhall119> senators have 6 year terms
[15:32] <mhall119> but 1/3 of them are up for re-election every 2 years
[15:32] <balloons> yes, 2 year terms are funny
[15:32] <mhall119> most of the founders wanted 1 year terms
[15:32] <balloons> first year is hiring all the people who helped you win. second year is hiring new people and focusing on re-election campaign
[15:33] <mhall119> balloons: don't be so cynical, it doesn't take that long to hire the people who helped you win
[15:34] <balloons> mhall119, true.. they do get to do a few things before summer break
[15:35] <balloons> I'm being facetious, but terms are interesting
[15:35] <mhall119> Hamilton wanted the President elected for life
[15:36] <mhall119> he also wanted the Senate to appoint him, rather than being directly elected
[16:01] <jono> dpm, mhall119 all set?
[16:01] <dpm> jono, yep
[16:02] <jono> setting it up
[16:02] <jono> one sec
[16:03] <jono> damn
[16:03] <jono> google issues
[16:03] <jono> one sec
[16:03] <mhall119> jono: yup
[16:07] <jono> mhall119, dpm invite sent
[16:10] <bkerensa> Happy Tuesday mhall119
[16:10] <bkerensa> :)
[16:12] <philballew> better than Monday
[16:13] <jcastro_> <-- voting + lunch, bbi a few
[16:26] <bkerensa> jcastro_:  +1
[16:32] <cprofitt> I will vote after dinner...
[16:42] <jono> dholbach, can you join a hangout?
[16:42] <jono> dholbach, invite sent
[16:42] <dholbach> jono, thanks - can you give me half a second? :)
[16:43] <jono> dholbach, sure
[16:55] <bkerensa> cprofitt: hopefully you dont have this machine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpGd74DrBM
[17:10] <philballew> bkerensa, just got a call from go daddy thanking me for the domain,
[17:10] <philballew> I am impressed
[17:12] <bkerensa> philballew: lol
[17:13] <bkerensa> philballew: from india or scottsdale? :)
[17:13] <philballew> scotsdale
[17:13] <philballew> The number said Phoenix
[17:13] <bkerensa> yeah
[17:13] <bkerensa> thats cool I guess :)
[17:14] <bkerensa> I mean they could have patched outbound through a local #
[17:50] <dholbach> alright my friends - dinner time over here - see you all tomorrow
[19:30] <akgraner> My hubby just offered to have a 220 outlet put in my bathroom so I could feel like I was in Europe all the time - not real sure how I should take that
[19:31] <akgraner> he said it was cheaper than moving to Europe so I can use the awesome hair styling appliances I found while I was in Denmark...:-/
[19:31] <jcastro_> heh
[19:32] <akgraner> jcastro_, your interview with Jason is AWESOME!!!!
[19:33] <jcastro_> <3
[19:33] <akgraner> thank you for doing that one
[19:33] <jcastro_> marcoceppi: see G+ wrt. openstack/SE thing
[19:34] <akgraner> I'll catch up with you and the ASK/Juju/Charmers in a couple weeks on a hangout and we'll kick awesome into overdrive with that one
[19:35] <akgraner> Rick and Steve are in line as well - I suppose if you want I can use Ubuntu on Air instead of my on Air Channel if you all want - just let me know
[19:36] <akgraner> Daviey, and your interview is great too but Sean was second to Mark's I guess people want to know what goes on behind UDS...:-)
[19:44] <Daviey> akgraner: hah, you are too kind.
[19:44] <Daviey> akgraner: I think i need more practice :)
[19:44] <akgraner> Daviey, the next time we do the interview your way though :-P
[19:45] <Daviey> akgraner: ok, cowgirl!
[19:45] <akgraner> even the Form AV guys were impressed that we only had 2 takes
[19:46] <Daviey> akgraner: that is because they have recorded my prior interviews :)
[19:46] <Daviey> I think we reached 30 for one. :)
[19:46] <akgraner> ahhh - I didn't ask as to why that said said that they said "trust us" this is great
[19:46] <Daviey> :)
[19:47] <akgraner> damn  - why they said that (I meant to type)
[19:47] <cprofitt> hey akgraner
[19:51] <akgraner> cprofitt, hey
[20:37] <marcoceppi> jcastro_: got it
[20:53] <philballew> So steam is out?
[21:02] <philballew> Should be interesting to play some of the games.
[21:17] <mhall119> philballew: if by "out" you mean "entered a limited beta", then yes
[21:18] <philballew> mhall119, yeah, but yet I have yet to see my "you were in the uds lp group" beta email. Probably all a scam... :)
[21:19] <mhall119> philballew: They might be sending them out in waves
[21:20] <mhall119> instead of having 1000 people register all at once
[21:20] <mhall119> (numbers estimated)
[21:20] <mhall119> (loosely)
[21:20] <philballew> yeah, probably by the end of the week
[21:21] <philballew> do I need to still buy the games in beta?
[21:23] <mhall119> I have no idea
[21:23]  * mhall119 isn't a gamer
[21:26] <philballew> me either. not at all...
[21:27] <mhall119> with 2 kids, my gaming is limited to Wii Sports
[21:50] <bkerensa> mhall119: I got my notification I am in already
[21:50] <bkerensa> :D
[21:50] <bkerensa> for Valve
[22:05] <jcastro_> mine crashes
[22:05] <jcastro_> but I am on 12.10/amd64
[22:33] <bkerensa> jcastro_: lol
[22:33] <bkerensa> jcastro_: they already bypassed valve beta
[22:33] <bkerensa> now anyone can get it without invite
[22:33] <bkerensa> ;p
[23:01] <mhall119> shameless request for upvotes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/12r9gh/welcome_to_the_skunk_works/
[23:09] <bkerensa> upvoting
[23:16] <bkerensa> mhall119: are you liking Valve?
[23:49] <bkerensa> jcastro_: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[23:49] <bkerensa> jcastro_: will make steam work for u on 12.10 plus there are way more than one game working for it