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| === philballew_ is now known as philballew | ||
| * apw grumbles about PPA builders | 10:11 | |
| * apw needs more instant gratification | 10:12 | |
| === sandstorm is now known as rainman | ||
| caribou | hi, would there be any reason against having hpwdt (watch dog timer) module built for Precise ? | 10:28 |
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| caribou | it's being built for Quantal but not for Precise | 10:29 |
| caribou | apw: any thought on building hpwdt for Precise ? I'm testing a build right now | 10:56 |
| apw | caribou, if it is hardware specific (ie loads only on specific machines) and we can test it on those machines then it likely would be SRUable | 11:02 |
| caribou | apw: not sure if it is H/W specific, but it will only be usable with system equiped with iLO I think | 11:04 |
| caribou | apw: since we now build it for Quantal, I thought it would be also possible for Precise | 11:04 |
| caribou | apw: I'll test my kernel on the proper h/w and will report back | 11:04 |
| apw | caribou, yeah sounds reasonable, if we can regression test it, and there are not heaps of reports pointing at it in Q then its not sounding very high risk indeed | 11:05 |
| caribou | apw: ok, I'll let you know what I find, thanks | 11:05 |
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| * henrix -> lunch | 12:21 | |
| bjf | apw, moin, is mumble down? | 12:34 |
| apw | bjf, seems to work for cking and me. | 12:34 |
| bjf | sigh | 12:34 |
| apw | bjf, i don't see you on server | 12:35 |
| bjf | apw, server won't take the saved password (which hasn't changed forever) | 12:35 |
| apw | bjf, did you enable 2-factor ? | 12:36 |
| bjf | not recently | 12:36 |
| rtg | bjf, you're back in the states by now, right ? | 12:36 |
| bjf | was working just fine yesterday | 12:36 |
| apw | not that then | 12:36 |
| bjf | yes, back in the states | 12:36 |
| apw | i see leann, but not you | 12:36 |
| rtg | I've been waking up at 0430 as well | 12:36 |
| * apw pokes rtg to try logging in | 12:37 | |
| rtg | apw, I'm in the living room right now. I'll migrate downstairs in awhile | 12:37 |
| apw | ack | 12:37 |
| rtg | apw, my house is so big that it takes awhile to hike down to my office :) | 12:37 |
| apw | *slap* | 12:38 |
| bjf | it's something he has to commit to doing | 12:38 |
| bjf | he doesn't want to make the long trek back and forth if not necessary | 12:39 |
| rtg | bjf, speaking of commits, home come Oneiric/Precise master-next branches aren't building ? | 12:39 |
| rtg | how come* | 12:39 |
| rtg | hmm, ARCH_RANDOM is new | 12:39 |
| bjf | rtg, don't know, haven't looked | 12:39 |
| rtg | bjf, I'm fixing them.... | 12:39 |
| bjf | rtg, who's been pushing broken shit on my trees? | 12:40 |
| rtg | bjf, gotta be one of your guys. | 12:40 |
| bjf | rtg, we know it wasn't henrix, i know it wasn't either me or sconklin so that just leaves ... | 12:41 |
| rtg | bjf, looks like 2 new config options appeared with the last stable update, CONFIG_ARM_ERRATA_775420 and CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM | 12:41 |
| bjf | hmmm | 12:41 |
| rtg | I'm assuming stable wants them enabled | 12:42 |
| bjf | i guess | 12:42 |
| herton | bjf, rtg, probably was the stable updates I pushed yesterday | 12:46 |
| rtg | herton, yep, I'll have it done in a few minutes. | 12:47 |
| bjf | herton, did you build test them? | 12:47 |
| herton | no | 12:47 |
| herton | rtg, while you're on it, I think you can remove that via6656 module enable patch on master-next as well, since you saw it doesn't work on 64-bit | 12:52 |
| herton | I saw it yesterday, but was already late, so sent an email about it | 12:53 |
| rtg | herton, was that just Quantal ? | 12:54 |
| herton | rtg, no, you applied it on Precise too | 12:54 |
| herton | rtg, forget, it was quantal indeed | 12:55 |
| rtg | herton, yep, just found the email | 12:55 |
| herton | rtg, gahhh, I was looking at wrong branch, it's really on precise, commit 72b07b241819c0320c0def2376645bd27339655c | 12:57 |
| herton | on master-next | 12:57 |
| herton | I knew I saw it yesterday, I'm not going crazy :) | 12:57 |
| rtg | herton, good, 'cause I couldn't find it in Quantal. | 12:57 |
| herton | rtg, yes, I think on quantal you just didn't applied in the end | 12:58 |
| rtg | herton, if tis driver is so bad, should we even bother with 32 bit ? | 12:58 |
| herton | rtg, for me it's ok just disabling it, after all we have it disabled for some time already | 12:59 |
| rtg | the only reason I looked at it is 'cause some folks were casting aspersions on us | 13:00 |
| herton | in that case may be we want to enable the 32bit version, or just state the driver is broken anyway | 13:00 |
| rtg | I'm inclined to leave it disabled until the upstream fix is merged (and I'm not seeing anythig so far). Perhaps I'll turn it on in raring. there has been a little activity since v3.6 | 13:04 |
| rtg | herton, ^^ | 13:05 |
| herton | yeah, agreed | 13:05 |
| rtg | herton, pushed precise master-next | 13:13 |
| herton | ack | 13:15 |
| * rtg vows not to watch the news today | 13:18 | |
| arges | rtg, hello. can we get libncurses5-dev installed on gomeisa ? | 13:23 |
| rtg | arges, in a chroot or in the default host environment ? | 13:24 |
| rtg | arges, I'm pretty sure the chroots have it | 13:24 |
| arges | rtg, hmm 'fakeroot debian/rules editconfigs' seems to complain | 13:25 |
| caribou | rtg: just that I tried to run fakeroot debian/rules editconfigs and it complained about the missing pkg | 13:25 |
| caribou | rtg: maybe there's a better way of doing it | 13:25 |
| rtg | caribou, have you tried it from within a chroot ? | 13:25 |
| rtg | rtg@gomeisa:~$ dpkg -l |grep libncurses5 | 13:26 |
| rtg | ii libncurses5 5.9-4 shared libraries for terminal handling | 13:26 |
| rtg | rtg@gomeisa:~$ dpkg -l |grep libncurses5 | 13:26 |
| rtg | ii libncurses5 5.9-4 shared libraries for terminal handling | 13:26 |
| caribou | rtg: nope, maybe that's what is missing | 13:26 |
| * caribou must learn the best way to build kernels on those build servers | 13:27 | |
| rtg | caribou, I've got nearly every chroot within the Ubuntu hegemony installed on the buildds | 13:28 |
| arges | caribou, 'schroot -c quantal-amd64' then type 'fakeroot debian/rules editconfigs' | 13:29 |
| arges | thanks rtg | 13:29 |
| caribou | rtg: :) ok, I'll do that | 13:29 |
| rtg | np | 13:29 |
| * ogra_ has some license fun for the kernel team ... added in bug 1075549 | 13:33 | |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1075549 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu) "please include fw_bcmdhd.bin and bcm4330.hcd in linux-firmware for support of the nexus7" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1075549 | 13:33 |
| ogra_ | :) | 13:33 |
| rtg | ogra_, its all about licensing.... | 13:37 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 13:37 |
| rtg | ogra_, first roadblock : | 13:38 |
| rtg | echo | 13:38 |
| rtg | echo The license for this software will now be displayed. | 13:38 |
| rtg | echo You must agree to this license before using this software. | 13:38 |
| rtg | echo | 13:38 |
| rtg | I hate shrink wrap licenses | 13:38 |
| ogra_ | do we have any broadcom contacts we could ask about a fix of that ? | 13:38 |
| rtg | ogra_, you should be talking to vanhoof about that | 13:38 |
| ogra_ | i was actually surprised that even works ... | 13:39 |
| ogra_ | shell script with binary blob inside | 13:39 |
| rtg | ogra_, majorly, totally ugly | 13:39 |
| ogra_ | ++ | 13:39 |
| caribou | rtg: looks like I need some special setup to use schroot : E: Access not authorised | 13:43 |
| rtg | caribou, log out completely, then back in and retry | 13:46 |
| caribou | rtg: will do sir. | 13:46 |
| rtg | you were not in the sbuild group | 13:47 |
| caribou | rtg: works fine, thanks ! | 13:47 |
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| rtg_ | bug 1019025 | 14:52 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1019025 in ubuntu-online-tour (Ubuntu Quantal) "Ubuntu Tour menu becomes unreadable when interrupting a tutorial" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1019025 | 14:52 |
| * herton -> lunch | 15:11 | |
| * ogasawara back in 20 | 15:51 | |
| herton | apw, I commited the task assignments for shank bot on lowlatency bugs, this is the example of what it will look like: https://bugs.qastaging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lowlatency/+bug/939627 | 15:53 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 937132 in Ubuntu Single Sign On Client stable-3-0 "duplicate for #939627 ubuntu-sso-login crashed with RuntimeError in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gi/overrides/Gdk.py: Gdk couldn't be initialized" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 15:53 |
| apw | herton, yeah later the promote-to-proposed will likely be something they do, but yeah that looks like the right thing | 15:54 |
| apw | herton, cirtainly as close as it can without trying it out | 15:55 |
| ogasawara | bjf, sconklin: mumble? | 17:35 |
| sconklin | sure | 17:36 |
| Theodoros | I found an issue with the 'Quantal kernel for precise' testcase http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/223/builds/25321/testcases | 17:36 |
| Theodoros | Running with the quantal kernel from the ppa causes panics and coredumps in samba | 17:37 |
| apw | Theodoros, sounds bad, could you file a bug and attach any logs you have | 17:43 |
| apw | (and let us know the number) | 17:43 |
| Theodoros | sure | 17:44 |
| Theodoros | I was wondering if 3.5.0-18.29 was going to hit the PPA/repositories so I could test that | 17:44 |
| Theodoros | Since it recently left proposed in quantal | 17:44 |
| apw | Theodoros, it is in precise-proposed now for testing | 17:47 |
| Theodoros | Okay, I'll look into that later | 17:47 |
| apw | i would imagine the one in the x-swat PPA will be out of date by now | 17:48 |
| Theodoros | apw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1075670 | 17:56 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1075670 in linux (Ubuntu) "samba panics with sys_setgroups failed" [Undecided,New] | 17:56 |
| balloons | ogasawara, or perhaps someone else :-), can you tell me what the kernel teams plans for the 12.10 kernel stack on 12.04? Will you continue targetting and testing on 12.10? Is it going to be a 3.5.X kernel for sure? | 18:12 |
| balloons | I guess I'm just asking which series will be targeted by this: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport/ | 18:13 |
| bjf | balloons, there was this UDS thing where we discussed all that :-) | 18:22 |
| balloons | bjf, I'm sure there was :-) I'm happy to look @ a blueprint if needed | 18:23 |
| balloons | sorry I missed the discussion! | 18:23 |
| bjf | balloons, there is a quantal lts-hwe kernel for precise | 18:23 |
| bjf | balloons, quantal is 3.5 | 18:24 |
| bjf | balloons, there will be a raring lts-hwe kernel for precise (raring will be 3.8) | 18:24 |
| * rtg grinds through the endless LKML thread "[RFC] Second attempt at kernel secure boot support" | 18:39 | |
| bjf | balloons, did that answer your question? | 18:43 |
| balloons | bjf, yes, I saw the new raring upload | 18:44 |
| balloons | so that menas you will keep going with the quantal lts, releasing 3.5.. and the next hwe will be on the raring kernel via 3.8 | 18:44 |
| balloons | the quantal hwe still dropping in december for 12.04.2? | 18:44 |
| bjf | balloons, quantal-lts is officially supported for the length of support for quantal | 18:45 |
| bjf | balloons, that is true for all non-lts kernels (after 14.04 that may change) | 18:46 |
| bjf | balloons, yes on the point release | 18:46 |
| balloons | bjf, sorry I mean to say.. the quantal-lts hwe stack will enter precise at 12.04.2 | 18:46 |
| balloons | and raring will be for 12.04.3 or 12.04.4? | 18:46 |
| bjf | balloons, whatever the schedule says :-) | 18:46 |
| balloons | fair enough :-) | 18:47 |
| balloons | thanks for your help | 18:47 |
| bjf | np | 18:47 |
| balloons | so we'll plan to ramp up some raring hwe at some point | 18:47 |
| balloons | *testing I mean to say | 18:47 |
| * rtg -> lunch | 18:58 | |
| chadbyoung | looking for help enabling CPU performance counters in the kernel | 19:28 |
| ogasawara | balloons: sorry for the delay, the world has been on fire today. I think bjf answered all your questions. | 19:30 |
| ogasawara | balloons: but https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-xorg-lts-updates was the bp/UDS session | 19:30 |
| ogasawara | balloons: I've also documented a lot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/QuantalLTSEnablementStack | 19:31 |
| balloons | ogasawara, thank you | 19:35 |
| ogasawara | balloons: let me know if you have any additional questions, I'll be happy to answer | 19:36 |
| chadbyoung | are the room logs searchable? | 20:45 |
| chadbyoung | by room I mean this channel | 20:45 |
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