[16:20] <CarstenG> Hi all
[16:20] <hannie> hey CarstenG
[16:21] <hannie> I was just going to mail you that I also succeeded in
[16:21] <hannie> catchint the U1 sync notification in a screenshot
[16:21] <CarstenG> :-)
[16:21] <hannie> I had to do it in a split second
[16:21] <CarstenG> I just saw your updated root-directrories figure.
[16:22] <hannie> What do you think of it?
[16:23] <CarstenG> Well, it would be ok so, but I had another imagination in mind...
[16:24] <hannie> you mean making the page bigger?
[16:24] <hannie> Then it won't fit anymore
[16:24] <CarstenG> You can resize the document page so that the symbols fit in completely without moving them
[16:25] <hannie> too much work to find out how.... ;)
[16:26] <hannie> Does the German language also have such long words? I am currently inseerting \\- all over the place
[16:26] <CarstenG> just see my email with two screenshots of my inkscape window...
[16:27] <hannie> I will have a look
[16:27] <hannie> *inserting
[16:28] <CarstenG> email is out.
[16:28] <hannie> I will upload u1-sync-notification and nl.po in a minute
[16:28] <CarstenG> Well, the \\- ...
[16:29] <hannie> I sent Kevin a list of long words with hyphens so he can add them to the macro
[16:30] <CarstenG> Normally LaTeX will break the word automatically according the language rules.
[16:30] <hannie> I wish LaTeX was that intelligent. Unfortunately it isn't
[16:30] <hannie> Not for the Dutch language that is
[16:31] <CarstenG> Is there still an example, where the breaking is not correct and where you not yet inserted a manually \\- ?
[16:32] <hannie> there are more than 20 words I had to add a hyphen to
[16:33] <hannie> e.g. pakketbeheersystemen
[16:34] <CarstenG> wich page?
[16:34] <hannie> 126
[16:34] <hannie> It almost touches the marginnote
[16:35] <hannie> Also: page 129: gebruikersgemeenshap
[16:36] <hannie> I am going to upload now, because I am finished editing
[16:39] <CarstenG> one moment
[16:39] <hannie> ok
[16:39] <CarstenG> the word "gebruikersgemeenshap" is not yet with an manually \\- in my po file.
[16:40] <CarstenG> And in the PDF it is broken ok
[16:40] <CarstenG> it looks ok as it is.
[16:40] <hannie> no, that's because I have just changed it and not yet uploaded to LP (going to do this shortly)
[16:40] <hannie> hey thorwil
[16:41] <CarstenG> gebrui-kersgemeenschap,
[16:41] <thorwil> hello!
[16:41] <hannie> thorwil, have you already made the front page for the Dutch precise-e2 translation?
[16:41] <CarstenG> I made the nl PDF with rev 92
[16:41] <manualbot> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/revision/92 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual -r 92
[16:42] <CarstenG> and there it looks ok for me, broken after gebrui-
[16:42] <hannie> CarstenG, I think I made it gebruikers-gemeenschap
[16:42] <CarstenG> kersgemeenschap
[16:42] <CarstenG> ah ok
[16:42] <hannie> not sure, I have to look
[16:42] <thorwil> hannie: no
[16:43] <hannie> thorwil, I suppose Kevin is going to ask you
[16:43] <hannie> We are almost finished
[16:43] <CarstenG> ok, I'm out for some minutes...
[16:43] <CarstenG> brb
[16:43] <hannie> cya, CarstenG
[16:45] <thorwil> hmm, no dutch in precise first edition?
[16:45] <hannie> no, it is precise-e2
[16:45] <thorwil> that i know, i just looked for the strings
[16:46] <hannie> I am almost done with the uploading of po and screenshots
[16:46] <hannie> latest modifications that is
[16:46] <godbyk> hannie: I'll add those words you emailed me to the hyphenation list and show you how you can add more words.
[16:46] <thorwil> if you paste the strings for the titlepage, i can create one immediately. though the lulu cover has to wait until Kevin can tell me the measurements
[16:47] <hannie> hey godbyk that's great
[16:47] <godbyk> thorwil: In addition to nl, we'll need French (fr) title pages for both precise-e2 and quantal.
[16:47] <hannie> thorwil, I will send you the text in a few minutes
[16:47] <godbyk> thorwil: I think Spanish (es) and Slovenian (sl) are both nearly ready for precise-e2, as well. I need to touch base with those translators again soon.
[16:47] <godbyk> At the moment I'm still trying to sort out this stupid indexing problem.  Once I get that done, things will start happening a bit faster.
[16:47] <hannie> godbyk, I hope you don't mind me contacting thorwil directly ;)
[16:48] <godbyk> hannie: Not at all. :)
[16:48] <godbyk> I'll be back in just a bit.
[16:48] <hannie> Let me finish the last screenshot and I will send the front page text to thorwil
[16:49] <hannie> cya godbyk
[16:49] <thorwil> hannie: paste into pm, please, no email
[16:49] <hannie> I will
[17:05] <CarstenG> I’m back
[17:06] <CarstenG> Only as idea for the future...
[17:07] <CarstenG> Should we include the cover text for lulu also to the pot file so that it is translatable over LP?
[17:08] <hannie> CarstenG, I have uploaded the latest changes and sent frontpage text to thorw
[17:09] <CarstenG> Yes, I saw it
[17:09] <hannie> I will have a look at your inkscape recommendations later
[17:09] <thorwil> inkscape recommendations?
[17:09] <hannie> Time to relax, I like to play 1404 :)
[17:10] <hannie> thorwil, yes, I had to adjust the root-directories.svg in inkscape
[17:11] <hannie> And I'll have a glass of wine. see you, guys
[17:11] <CarstenG> See you Hannie
[17:16] <thorwil> godbyk: fr is already present, including a pdf, but it seems i never touched those
[17:17] <godbyk> thorwil: Yeah, the French translation team did that.
[17:17] <godbyk> Translators get all excited and start translating everything they can get their hands on. :-P
[17:17] <thorwil> heh
[17:19]  * thorwil nominates "L'équipe" for coolest word for team
[17:20] <godbyk> heh
[17:24] <thorwil> nl and tweaked fr pushed
[17:24] <godbyk> thorwil: Thanks!
[17:25] <godbyk> I may have a couple more for you in the not-so-distant future. I think we've done Spanish already. But Slovenian is also nearly complete, I believe.
[17:26] <thorwil> i recently worked with git a bit. suddenly just commiting after making changes feesl odd
[17:26] <thorwil> feels, even
[17:28] <thorwil> today i used "bzr log | grep -A 5 Thorsten" to see what the heck i did or did not do in the precise-e2 branch. apparently bzr log has no filtering per commiter(?)
[17:29] <CarstenG> Thorsten, what is with the nl pdf file ?
[17:29] <godbyk> Yeah, I've been using git for most of the other code bases I work with lately, too.
[17:30] <godbyk> CarstenG: What about it?
[17:30] <thorwil> CarstenG: in the past i have been lazy ... no wait, i always wanted to remind godbyk how those dependent files shouldn't be there ^_^
[17:30] <godbyk> thorwil: Ha!
[17:30] <CarstenG> I dont see it in the branch :-)
[17:31] <godbyk> Yeah, I originally added those files because they took forever for inkscape to convert from svg to pdf on my computer.
[17:31] <godbyk> But nowadays it isn't really a problem.
[17:31] <godbyk> So we could uncomment some code in the Makefile so that the title pages get generated each time the manual is generated.
[17:31] <godbyk> It'll slow things down slightly each run, but it does mean less clutter in the bzr repository.
[17:32] <thorwil> i'm all for it
[17:32] <thorwil> especially if you get a .pdf from a translation team and then don't know if its with text converted to paths or not ...
[17:32] <CarstenG> well, the pdf files will not be soooo a big problem there, or?
[17:33] <thorwil> CarstenG: they just add things somebody has to check at some point
[17:34] <godbyk> It does make it more difficult in the sense that Thorsten has to keep track of which title pages he created and which other people fiddled with.
[17:34] <thorwil> is the pdf present? up-to-date? are all of them with text converted to paths?
[17:34] <CarstenG> the title pages are nearly static, so to create them automatically each make run is wasting time...
[17:34] <godbyk> CarstenG: They wouldn't be regenerated each run.
[17:35] <godbyk> CarstenG: make should detect when the svg has changed and only regenerate the PDF on that occasion.
[17:35] <thorwil> i doubt anyone will notice, as the export is near instantaneous
[17:35] <CarstenG> Quote: from you :-) "So we could uncomment some code in the Makefile so that the title pages get generated each time the manual is generated."
[17:36] <CarstenG> a ok, if make can check this, the it is ok...
[17:36] <CarstenG> then...
[17:36] <godbyk> CarstenG: Yeah, I had to think it through a bit. It's been a while. ;-)
[17:37] <thorwil> bzr log is better than i thought after the first misleading search hits: bzr log --match-author Thorsten