[07:42] <dholbach> good morning
[10:08] <xnox> ESphynx: yeah they removed, than put it back in for the fs types they found no substitues for (fat and hfs or something like that....)
[10:09] <xnox> ESphynx: I was more after this cover http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:50ShadesofGreyCoverArt.jpg
[10:09] <xnox> bdrung: : I was more after this cover http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:50ShadesofGreyCoverArt.jpg
[12:35] <ahayzen> Hi, if I have a python package which supports both py2 and py3 in the same package should I distribute it as python-abc or python3-abc or both? Thanks, Andy
[12:36] <cjwatson> Is it a program or a module?
[12:36] <ahayzen> it is a library really
[12:36] <cjwatson> Then the Debian Python policy requires that you distribute python-abc and python3-abc
[12:37] <ahayzen> ok thanks :)
[12:38] <cjwatson> ahayzen: http://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide may help
[12:38] <ahayzen> cjwatson: thank you
[16:40] <Rhonda> Who again made me put my email address on packages.ubuntu.com?
[16:40] <Rhonda> Laney, was that you?  I officially hate you now. :)
[16:40] <TheLordOfTime> Rhonda, lol, did you get emails about given packages?
[16:40] <Rhonda> TheLordOfTime: I receive tons of spam.
[16:41] <Laney> Rhonda: hahaha
[16:41] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[16:41] <Laney> I didn't tell you to do that, I just pointed out that Frank's was out of date :-)
[16:41] <Rhonda> I have rhonda@debian.org all over the web, and my private mail address.
[16:41] <Rhonda> It seems the @ubuntu.com mail host doesn't do any spam counter measures, at all.
[16:42] <TheLordOfTime> um...
[16:42] <TheLordOfTime> afaik that's just a webforward
[16:42] <Rhonda> Well, his address wasn't out of date.  He might (or might not) read mails there still.  It doesn't bounce. ;)
[16:42] <TheLordOfTime> spam handling would need to be done at your client
[16:42] <Laney> as a contact for that site
[16:42] <Rhonda> He still has access. :)
[16:51] <Rhonda> *sigh*
[16:51] <Rhonda> Now someone asks me about some intrepid cd image download …
[16:51]  * Rhonda nibbles even more on Laney
[16:52] <Laney> heh
[16:52] <Laney> you could just delete the contact info
[17:04] <micahg> Rhonda: I would suggest address obfuscation if you haven't done that already
[17:24] <Rhonda> "this website is maintained in teh intarwebz.  shout out your patches and eventually they will be picked up out of thin air."
[18:15] <ESphynx> so a debian/changelog, you just keep adding to the top, right?
[18:16] <jtaylor> yes
[18:17] <ESphynx> jtaylor: thanks. can/should I put multiple lines in there?
[18:17] <jtaylor> put in as many lines as you need
[18:17] <jtaylor> too much doc is better than too little
[18:17] <jtaylor> and use dch to edit it
[18:17] <ESphynx> k.
[18:46] <tumbleweed> bdrung: another u-d-t upload for the syncpackage & requestsync bugs?
[19:41] <psusi> is launchpad fubar atm?  I can't access any bzr repos
[19:49] <psusi> ahh, now it's working
[20:09] <ESphynx> Why is dpkg-symbols generating the first line (middle thing) as libecere instead of libecere0? :S
[20:15] <jtaylor> great you can't login to launchpad with opera now? ...
[20:16] <jtaylor> shouldn't have deleted my cookies ...
[20:24] <ESphynx> jtaylor sorry to bug you man, but any clue about that libecere vs libecere0? =)
[20:25] <jtaylor> how does it look like?
[20:26] <ESphynx> dpkg-gensymbols is giving me
[20:26] <ESphynx> libEDA.so.0 libecere #MINVER#
[20:26] <ESphynx> instead of
[20:26] <ESphynx> libEDA.so.0 libecere0 #MINVER#
[20:26] <ESphynx> as I currently have in my debian/ symbols files...
[20:26] <ESphynx> just wondering why?
[20:26] <ESphynx> I'm running: dpkg-gensymbols -plibecere0 -v0.44.01 -Odebian/libecere0.symbols
[20:27] <ESphynx> also it's outputting symbols for 'all' my libs in that file (even the ones from other packages)... I guess it uses everything it built? I can just delete the unrelated ones... I remember I had to do this last time as well
[20:27] <ESphynx> but I don't remember about the libecere vs libecere0 ... maybe I had to add the 0 myself as well? I can't recall
[20:29] <jtaylor> just put the 0 there by hand
[20:30] <ESphynx> fair enough =) thanks. was just wondering :P
[20:30] <jtaylor> not sure why it outputs stuff for all libraries
[20:30] <jtaylor> didn't use gensymbols in a while
[20:30] <ESphynx> I built all... so.
[20:30] <ESphynx> it maybe be fishing from the same spot where they're all together :S
[20:30] <ESphynx> taking notes this time lol
[20:40] <bdrung> tumbleweed: yes. can you please tag 0.144?
[20:48] <tumbleweed> bdrung: sure
[20:51] <bdrung> tumbleweed: will you backport the patches for syncpackage & requestsync to quantal?
[20:53] <tumbleweed> bdrung: yeah
[21:18] <maxiaojun> hi
[22:20] <jtaylor> I just got a weird mail about a sru for precise being accepted in raring?
[22:20] <jtaylor> an sru I did in july
[22:21] <jtaylor> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/raring-changes/2012-November/000621.html
[22:21] <jtaylor> is something wrong with the archive?
[22:22] <jtaylor> hm its probably because the sru has a to high version number oO
[22:22] <jtaylor> how did that happen
[22:23] <Laney> you took the new upstream release
[22:24] <Laney> shouldnt it go to Q too?
[22:24] <jtaylor> yes
[22:24] <Laney> might want to ping to make sure it happens
[22:24] <jtaylor> well it doesn't really
[22:24] <jtaylor> it doesn'T need a rebuild
[22:24] <Laney> for version number sanity
[22:24] <Laney> it can probably be copied
[22:25] <jtaylor> did someone copy it to raring to fix my mistake?
[22:25] <Laney> looks like slangasek was doing some copying up
[22:26] <slangasek> yes
[22:26] <slangasek> and have just copied to precise too
[22:26] <jtaylor> you mean quantal?
[22:26] <Laney> quantal?
[22:26] <slangasek> yeah
[22:26] <slangasek> that thing
[22:26] <jtaylor> k thx
[22:26] <Laney> good stuff
[22:27] <slangasek> jtaylor: fwiw the correct version number here would have been either 2012.1-0ubuntu0.1
[22:27] <slangasek> s/either //
[22:27] <jtaylor> yes
[22:27] <slangasek> also the SRU team should have caught it, meh
[22:28] <jtaylor> I really make to many mistakes recently ...
[22:34] <maxiaojun> package addition request: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2012-October/007340.html
[22:40] <maxiaojun> ?
[22:43] <jtaylor> maxiaojun: it is best to get your package into ubuntu via debian
[22:43] <jtaylor> see http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers
[22:43] <maxiaojun> ok
[22:49] <maxiaojun> I'd like to ask, beside MIR, is there a similar process for multiverse to restricted?
[22:57] <maxiaojun> I'm concerning VAAPI stuff.
[22:58] <maxiaojun> They stay in universe/multiverse now
[22:59] <arges> whats the procedure to maintain an ubuntu universe package? I'm looking right now at crash : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/crash
[23:02] <jtaylor> arges: that package is still maintained in debian
[23:02] <jtaylor> http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/crash.html
[23:02] <jtaylor> you could do the merge to raring
[23:03] <arges> jtaylor, ok. how do I request that the version in unstable be uploaded to precise to raring?
[23:03] <arges> jtaylor, sure how do I start that then?
[23:08] <jtaylor> arges: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/udd-merging.html
[23:09] <jtaylor> merging is one of the more challenging tasks, it may not be the best to start with
[23:09] <arges> jtaylor, thanks. yea shouldn't be a problem
[23:09] <arges> jtaylor, i assume i file a bug with this branch linked, then get the attention of somebody who can upload?
[23:09] <jtaylor> yes
[23:09] <arges> cool
[23:10] <jtaylor> when you propose the branch for merging it goes onto the sponsoring queue automatically
[23:10] <jtaylor> for bugs you subscribe ubuntu-sponsors for that
[23:48] <arges> jtaylor, i'm actually really looking for a debian sync of that package. i assume that's different than bzr merge
[23:49] <arges> ahh i found requestsync
[23:50] <xnox> arges: are you a developer?
[23:50] <xnox> then you could use syncpackage....
[23:50] <arges> xnox, no i'm not
[23:50]  * xnox thought you might be already =)
[23:51] <arges> xnox, i have prepped my wiki page, so one day...