[02:46] Evening [02:47] Finishing up an interview [10:48] morning === rick_h_ is now known as rick_h [12:08] Morning [12:08] going to go do my civic doodie [12:10] woot [12:10] going to do mine at lunch me thinks [12:13] for brousch http://danielgibbs.name/fun-with-makefiles/ [12:13] since he's 'found makefile' [12:14] nice [12:19] free audio book http://audible.com/sanderson [13:34] and voting done yay [13:34] <3 working from home "I'll go after all the people going before work and before the lunch crowd" [13:51] Yeah, my voting is done. Walked to the precinct with JoDee. [13:52] Nice that it was kitty-corner to us [13:52] yea, across the street here so nice close by [13:53] Got to hear a guy try to hit on a lady by talking about his Celestite. [13:53] I shit thee not [13:53] ughhhh the voting talk has started in the office, in go the headphones [13:54] nullspace: Turn it to NPR. That'll show 'em. [13:54] working from home ftw [13:57] or I could just blast REM - it's the end of the world [13:57] it's doomsaying on eitherside [13:57] Corrosion of Conformity: Vote With a Bullet. [13:58] vote or die! [13:58] meh, I fall into the 'don't vote if you don't know wtf you're voting for' camp [13:58] http://www.blogfordemocracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/vote_or_die.jpg [13:58] see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy [13:59] rick_h: You mean The Prophecy. [13:59] It's got electrolytes plants crave. [13:59] yea, that was probably not quite right. I mean the uninformed making decisions, not necessarily the stupid [14:00] if you're going to tell me which car to buy, you should know about a few cars [14:00] or at least drive [14:00] unfortuantley we have to deal with both of those people on the road as well [14:03] going to kill snap-l by loading up some old school green day for today [14:03] rick_h: It's your eardrums. [14:03] And Green Day is OK in moderation [14:03] :P [14:04] at least it's not their new stuff [14:05] part of this was to buy the new album but starting with dookie first [14:05] so there are people who in milwaukee who have been in line for 2 hours [14:05] thats a long time to wait to vote [14:05] yea, I can't wait until they get voting by text message working [14:05] there are people in flordia that waited for 6 hours to vote, that's dedication [14:05] things will really change then when everyone actually votes [14:05] i voted via abstenee [14:06] rick_h: hahahahahaah [14:06] jjesse: Lucky you. [14:07] I was in and out in 30mins [14:07] well i'm out of state so it was really easy [14:07] I'm not sure I want people treating the presidential election as though it was the same as voting for their favorite American Idol star [14:07] Geez, a 6 hour line with no roller coaster at the end? [14:07] but I do wish we had remote electronic voting [14:07] I'm just saying a LOT of people don't vote because it involsed the physical step of going/waiting [14:07] snap-l: hwo is it any different than that now [14:08] removing that and I think the results would come out a TON differently [14:08] I'm glad ours was only 30 minutes [14:08] nullspace: Point taken [14:12] apparently the Royal Oak Brewery has a special where if you bring in your sticker, they give you a free beer. [14:13] I'm gonna go vote again to get more beer. :) [14:13] hah [14:13] early and often [14:14] https://plus.google.com/u/0/104919222657565747428/posts/NK9MAB6heDR cool did not know that [14:14] really wish these guys made machines I could get into buying :( [14:15] Yeah, I want to support them [14:16] unfortunately the server I want is something atom based and laptops are 12" so I guess I'm too small for them [14:17] and no nipple [14:17] yea, that too [14:17] but don't need that on the server side [14:21] A server without a nipple is no real server [14:27] God, now there's talk about Disney buying Hasbro [14:27] aka D&D and Magic the Gathering, among others. [14:47] I think a nelson 'ha! ha!' is appropriate http://goo.gl/uQRDu [14:50] I'd say an appropriate response would be to OSS all of the code [14:51] That way such breaches are meaningless. [15:00] rut ro, looks like the oxygenarian volunteers don't know how to calibrate touch screens http://t.co/927dDaS1 [16:01] itym octagenarian? [16:01] or is that the joke? [16:07] we never know with nullspace :) [16:31] It's those folks who believe in Oxygen [16:31] dzho: hmm yeah ment taht [16:31] or those who take the oxygen network seriously. :) [16:32] snap-l: also know as idoits [16:32] no comment [17:11] octagenarians are probably more highly represented than the general population as users of pure oxygen tanks [17:11] so, it works pretty ok even if not intended :) [17:17] yay no more crap in the mail...thank you voting day! [17:33] rick_h: God, I could have make a shrine to the Matty Maroune Proposal 6 crap [17:50] rick_h: what is the equivalent of this in pythong? http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=106461 [17:58] nevermind. I think I was not remembering correctly what sed -i and perl -i do. [17:59] jrwren: there's not really an in place [18:00] you'd just make hte .bak files, open the files, write to a tmp, and shutil it back overwrite [18:00] yup, that is what I shall do. [18:00] http://docs.python.org/2/library/tempfile.html and http://docs.python.org/2/library/shutil.html [18:01] shutil better than os.rename? [18:02] well, I was specifically thinking of copytree for the backup but not quite the same [18:02] ok. cool [18:02] but shutil is a bit more thorough than the os items getting permissions/metadata and such I think [18:02] so like look at shutil.move [18:02] If the destination is on the current filesystem, then os.rename() is used. Otherwise, src is copied (using shutil.copy2()) to dst and then removed. [18:03] so it's just a bit smarter [18:03] yeah, like the name implies, more like a shell command than a syscall [18:04] yea [18:04] I tend ot start with shutil since I've been bitten by the os. stuff before [18:04] like you can't do a rmtree in os, but can in shutil [18:04] makes sense. [18:05] i'm used to just the os stuff since that is what most other language api give you. [18:05] os is basically posix C file api stuff in python [18:41] snap-l: We were unable to process this funnel due to one or more submitted values are in error " + "please make make corrections where an #ERR is present [18:42] snap-l: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7CU3HACEAEnkf1.jpg [18:42] first one was a clipboard f-up [18:46] nullspace: Amen [20:37] This looks interesting http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/11/06/1752228/gate-one-11-released-run-vim-in-your-browser [21:39] Love it when a transaction table goes for a toss.