[00:00] <ActionParsnip> superfake123: did you even read the text?
[00:00] <Linkandzelda> ActionParsnip: enough stuff to consider it a problem lol, its also uploading. the reason this is a problem is i have my torrents downloaded via RSS and sorted to the correct folders, transmission then downloads them automatically and they are placed into already sorted folders, then plex can watch and update my media library, all without me doing a single click :D
[00:00] <tanguypass> hi
[00:00] <timoK> ActionParsnip: like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1336201/
[00:01] <superfake123> ActionParsnip, ohhhhh I see that now. ok my bad :( thank you!
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> superfake123: ;)
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> timoK: look great :)
[00:02] <timoK> k, I'll try that. thanks
[00:09] <simplew> i have run debuilf, but the build gaved error, i run debuild again and it failed, so when abuild fails, before running debuild again what i need to do?
[00:11] <enriq> ActionParsnip, ok all updated, upgraded and dist-upgraded... still no desktop... I guess I need to do that driver thing... any links?
[00:12] <dr_willis> Hmm. where is that addatidional drivers thing in 12.10 now..  i found it once during beta
[00:12] <trism> simplew: depends on what the error is
[00:12] <simplew> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1336196
[00:12] <dr_willis> enriq:  hav3e you installed any of the nvidia drivers from the repos?
[00:13] <trism> dr_willis: software-properties-gtk (which I learned from you)
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> enriq: try:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-96
[00:13] <shishirmk> is there apt-source i could use to install this package and all its dependencies ? librsvg-2.36.4
[00:14] <trism> simplew: you have local changes, run: dpkg-source --commit; first to create a patch for the changes
[00:14] <shishirmk> ^^ on ubuntu 10.04
[00:14] <TheLordOfTime> shishirmk, where's that package from?
[00:15] <TheLordOfTime> shishirmk, it doesn't appear to be a package... :/
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> shishirmk: is this on a desktop OS?
[00:15] <dr_willis> trism:  whats weird. is i put lubuntu on a laptop. and i thought i saw a 'additional-drivers' tool like from 12.04 on it.
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> !info  librsvg lucid
[00:15] <simplew> trism: commit the changes??? the build broke, so i fixed the patch, now i need to build again, and for that i need a clean source
[00:15] <trism> simplew: you appear to have modified a file not in the patch then
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> shishirmk: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:16] <TheLordOfTime> ActionParsnip, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=librsvg&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all  <-- list of packages matching a keyword search :/
[00:16] <trism> simplew: you could add it to the patch and refresh it
[00:16] <TheLordOfTime> oops, meant to point that to shishirmk
[00:16] <enriq> dr_willis, ActionParsnip, nvidia-96 is provided by some other packages... nvidia-experimental, nvidia-current-updates, nvidia-current... do I install nvidia-current? sounds good
[00:17] <TheLordOfTime> shishirmk, are you trying to get librsvg2-2 from Raring/
[00:17] <TheLordOfTime> or librsvg2-bin or similar.
[00:17] <TheLordOfTime> (that's the only one that has 2.36.4)
[00:17] <dr_willis> enriq:  i always just install nvidia-current on my system. if you run that software-properties-gtk  app. it should reccomend one
[00:17] <simplew> trism: no, i simply updated the patch, after that i would need to run "quilt refresh"?
[00:17] <LOBO84> Hi, everyone!
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> shishirmk: install librsvg2-2 package and you'll get librsvg
[00:18] <mdspencer> What do I need to get guest additions working in VirtualBox?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> mdspencer: click to install them and it will download the ISO, shutdown the guest and set the CD to be inserted at boot and power on the system
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> mdspencer: you can then mount the CD and run the install script. That's how I do it
[00:19] <loadid_> there's an install guest addtions in the machine menu i think
[00:19] <loadid_> devices* menu
[00:19] <enriq> dr_willis, cannot run gtk stuff (alt-f2 now working and desktop is empty)
[00:20] <mdspencer> I ran the script and it failed to build the main module, saying it couldn't find the kernel headers.
[00:20] <dr_willis> enriq:  try apt-get install nvidia-current and reboot .. i guess. ;)
[00:20] <enriq> ok :)
[00:20] <dr_willis> enriq:  or apt-get install someotherwindowmanager and select it. ;)
[00:20] <LOBO84> Anyone here have experience with Zentyal?
[00:20] <trism> simplew: if you modified that file and it is part of the patch yes, otherwise hard to say without knowing what you did, easiest is still to run dpkg-source --commit, look at what changed and decide if you want to revert it or not
[00:24] <mdspencer> ActionParsnip: I ran apt-get install linux-headers-generic but it said they were already installed.
[00:25] <EdLin_> hi. I'm having difficulty logging in, I can log in as guest, but not as my default user.
[00:25] <EdLin_> running 12.04 LTS
[00:26] <almoxarife> EdLin_: forgot password?
[00:26] <EdLin_> also, I can su to jbleex fine at a character mode root prompt from rescue.
[00:27] <EdLin_> almoxarife, I eliminated that possibility, while I was su'd, I did passwd and changed it, so I had the original password (and my new one) fine
[00:27] <simplew> trism: now i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1336248
[00:27] <EdLin_> I just can't do a graphical log-in
[00:29] <simplew> trism: the build went fine, and not that error i dont get it
[00:30] <theBIGelectron> Hi there all I was just wondering if to change from Ubuntu 12.10 beater to 12.10 release is there anything that one must do to change the repo's or does it happen automagicly?
[00:30] <gustav__> ocamlnet package needs updating.
[00:30] <trism> simplew: it's only an error in the sense konversation-data.install says to add files from usr/share/locale/* but apparently your build didn't create any
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> theBIGelectron: just upgrade and you will have the RC
[00:30] <simplew> trism: so what can i do
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> theBIGelectron: they both use the same repos
[00:31] <almoxarife> EdLin_: what you just said was over my head, i can root a kindle with linux but password mods scare me into not touching them :)
[00:31] <theBIGelectron> Cool ActionParsnip, I thought so I just wanted to check
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> theBIGelectron: no harm done :)
[00:32] <theBIGelectron> :)
[00:33] <simplew> trism: can you tell me what i need to do to package from a source .tar.gz file?
[00:33] <enriq> dr_willis, ActionParsnip, ok got drivers, still no desktop... I need to configure something I guess...
[00:33] <shishirmk> ActionParsnip: I have librsvg2-2 installed but still imagemagick is not able to detech librsvg existence. I am not sure anymore at what level i have an issue.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> simplew: install build-essential is a good start
[00:33] <mr_44> Hi! Supposedly after degrading file system to ext2 from ext3 have a problem - every time i reboot or shutdown-powerup on boot i have a warning that FS wasn't cleanly umounted forcing to check. HDD SMART is ok. I waited until  the fs check finished several times but on the next reboot shutdown - the message came in again. Watched thru the syslog but there's no logging of shutdown sequence as i can see. Watched the /etc/rc0.d/ - umountnfs umountfs cryptdisks cryptdisk
[00:34] <trism> simplew: I don't really have time to go over it at the moment
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> shishirmk: is there an imagemagick channel
[00:34] <shishirmk> ActionParsnip: Looks like there is
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> mr_44: adding a journal isn't really a degrade
[00:34] <trism> simplew: if you don't really care about locale stuff you could remove that from the install file as a workaround, otherwise I'd probably need to see the debdiff to figure out what broke
[00:34] <shishirmk> ActionParsnip: I will ask about it there
[00:37] <mr_44> ActionParsnip adding journal definitely isn't degrade 'cause i removed it with tune2fs -O^has_journal
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> mr_44: have you fsck'd the partition in live CD?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> mr_44: why are you messing with your jounal anyway?
[00:42] <enriq> ActionParsnip, ok I installed the drivers... still empty desktop but now ctrl-alt-f1 terminal has a much bigger font :)
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> enriq: if you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    does it run ok or do you get 'command not found' etc?
[00:45] <mr_44> ActionParsnip no im not fsck'd it. I degraded cause it seriously slowed my laptop's hdd performance. Could fsck deal with ext2 partiotions? May be the problem is in the e2fsck - fsck use?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> mr_44: you may want to install preload then. Journalized file systems simply do not fragment to the degree that it will affect performance
[00:47] <mr_44> preload was installed. The degrade speeded up my hdd performance significantly.
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> mr_44: you could stay on ext2
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> mr_44: you could also add the mount option:   noatime
[00:48] <cbilljones> Hi im having a small issue, unity music lens doesnt see most of my music, but rhythembox does detect it all, ideas?
[00:49] <mr_44> ActionParsnip the question is not the FS to stay on but that after every reboot or shutdown-bootup fsck comes with an error "filesystem wasn't umounted cleanly" forcing to recheck every time
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> mr_44: if you run:  file /forcefsck       does it say the file doesn't exist?
[00:57] <conley> How can I disable mouse acceleration without unity overriding that?
[01:00] <cbilljones> i tried rebooting, unity music lens still doesnt see most music
[01:00] <OpenSorce> Testing....
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: are the mucic files in the same folder?
[01:00] <OpenSorce> sorry, wrong channel
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> !test | OpenSorce
[01:00] <OpenSorce> haha
[01:01] <cbilljones> actionparsnip yes they are all in a storage drive at /music
[01:01] <OpenSorce> Testing a Cairo-dock app.... I wonder this doesn't function properly
[01:02] <OpenSorce> Anyway not an Ubuntu question, I'll shush about it :-)
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/201756/no-results-in-music-lens-music-files-appear-in-file-lens
[01:02] <xangua> cbilljones: so they are not in the music directory in your home¿
[01:02] <superfake123> how do i view startup stuff? like if I want to prevent /usr/sbin/bluetoothd from starting up?
[01:02] <barcode>  is Gambas any good for large serious projects?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> cbilljones: found that in seconds...
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> superfake123: cd /etc/xdg/autostart; sudo sed --in-place 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' *.desktop
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> superfake123: now when you view the items in 'startup items' you will see them all
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> !info rcconf
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> superfake123: or install rcconf if it is run in the rc.X folders etc
[01:05] <cbilljones> actionparsnip, tried that link, no change, still just seeing 9 of around 1000 albums
[01:05] <cbilljones> rhythembox detects all
[01:06] <superfake123> ActionParsnip, thank you!
[01:07] <barcode>  is Gambas any good for large serious projects?
[01:08] <mr_44> ActionParsnip:  No such file or directory. But i found this bug on launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/964990  it rely only to ext2 and still not fixed.
[01:08] <cbilljones> xangua, no they music is not in /home, its on a 2nd drive that houses all my data
[01:09] <xangua> cbilljones: then it's not gonna find it, the music lens only search on your home
[01:10] <cbilljones> xangua it does detect 10 of the albums
[01:10] <xangua> cbilljones: did you play those albums in rhythmbox¿
[01:11] <cbilljones> xangua no, never played anything directly from rhythembox
[01:11] <xangua> i've seen there is a plugin for thythmbox to register the songs youy play
[01:12] <cbilljones> xangua are you refering to zietgiest plugin? its not on atm
[01:12] <conley> So. How can I automatically run X settings that won't be messed with by Gnome?
[01:12] <conley> s/run/change
[01:14] <cbilljones> xangua actionparsnip i notice the albums do appear in file lens, just not music(except for a few albums)
[01:16] <aquethys> Hi, this is kind of minor. Installed Ubuntu 12.10 but now when I boot into Windows 7 the speaker makes funny noises when I am about to play youtube or media.
[01:16] <enriq> ActionParsnip, nvidia-xconfig just ran and created an xorg.conf
[01:16] <Theodoros> I have an issue where files in a gvfs mount of samba shares will become unresponsive in 12.10. Anybody else seen this?
[01:17] <baloon> why doesn't gnome ever work for ubuntu 12.04? It just freezes at the login. I have kubuntu installed.
[01:17] <baloon> happened several times.
[01:18] <Krenair> Nov 05 20:14:32 *	noone4 (~noone4@thingy.cs.umass.edu) has left #ubuntu (requested by IdleOne (Asked you before not to dcc chat random people))
[01:18] <Krenair> Got a DCC from that user just now
[01:19] <IdleOne> Krenair: come to #ubuntu-ops please
[01:20] <baloon> also, there's nobody in '#ubutnu' atm.
[01:21] <acolytetojippity> hey, quick question.  is there any way to define an alias in .bashrc that can only be executed via sudo?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> enriq: reboot to test
[01:22] <baloon> ActionParsnip: what's your reason for using linux over windows?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> baloon: its free and does what windows can do, so why spend money
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> baloon: I switched when win2k BSOD'd at everything but Mandrake was fine, so I switched
[01:23] <_DanN_> how to link content of linux-headers-3.2.0-23 to standard locations ?
[01:23] <_DanN_> except messing with symlinks ...
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> _DanN_: i'd go with symlinks
[01:23] <baloon> well, one reason, guaranteed support. Secondly, the time you spend with linux might be equal to the cost you spent on buying windows 7, say.
[01:23] <IdleOne> Krenair: did you receive that dcc after I banned them?
[01:24] <_DanN_> ActionParsnip: this is not the way .. libc-dev has some files in /usr/include
[01:24] <cbilljones> actionparsnip i fiqured it out, search is capped at 100 entries if blank, if i add a query they come up
[01:24] <Krenair> IdleOne, Yes, at Nov 06 01:03:32
[01:24] <_DanN_> ActionParsnip: dpkg -S /usr/include/linux/if.h
[01:24] <IdleOne> Krenair: thank you
[01:24] <Krenair> yw
[01:24] <JustusW> hi
[01:25] <acolytetojippity> hey, quick question.  is there any way to define an alias in .bashrc that can only be executed via sudo?
[01:25] <baloon> ActionParsnip: I once installed debian and couldn't even get connected, I got no help on forums or in the chat.
[01:25] <JustusW> got a nasty problem here with graphics drivers. I have two ati hd 6870, on fresh install everything was ok, then I installed the binary driver from the software-center now everything is screwed up as screwed up can be. sidebars missing, i can no longer use all my 3 monitors
[01:26] <JustusW> can I somehow roll back to the previous state or do I have to reinstall?
[01:26] <aquethys> Hi, this is kind of minor. Installed Ubuntu 12.10 but now when I boot into Windows 7 the speaker makes funny noises when I am about to play youtube or media.
[01:26] <acolytetojippity> reinstall your windows sound drivers
[01:27] <sancho90> @justus: If you can get into the terminal, I would try purging the drivers from there and reboot.
[01:27] <IdleOne> JustusW: try uninstalling the drivers from the software center
[01:27] <sancho90> That too.
[01:27] <IdleOne> JustusW: or from terminal
[01:27] <JustusW> IdleOne: Ok, I hope that works
[01:28] <enriq> ActionParsnip, still nothing
[01:28] <IdleOne> JustusW: after that logout and log back in, should get you back to whatever driver was being used previously
[01:29] <enriq> Can't just I install some 2d interface on 12.10? my drivers don t seem to work with unity
[01:30] <dr_willis> enriq of coiurse you could
[01:30] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[01:31] <enriq> this problem of 12.10 sucks, it is like a linux distro of the good (bad) old days
[01:31] <androidbruce> hey guys, I can get cron jobs to run as root, but not my user. I'm on 12.10. any thoughts?
[01:32] <mr_44> enriq:  whats your graphic card?
[01:32] <enriq> mr_44, nvidia NV17
[01:32] <dr_willis> hardware makers are often theones to blame. they just wont open up the info needed
[01:32] <dr_willis> my 4 nvidia systems work great.
[01:32] <enriq> 10.04 worked fine
[01:33] <enriq> mr_44, GeForce4 440 Go 64M
[01:34] <macfire> help, I need help with ati drivers
[01:35] <macfire> I finished to install ati drivers
[01:35] <macfire> but my unity is hidden
[01:36] <macfire> and my software downs work correctly
[01:36] <macfire> doesnt
[01:36] <acolytetojippity> reinstall your windows sound drivers
[01:36] <acolytetojippity> crap.  frakking clipboard
[01:36] <simplew> apt-get purge will remove the configuration files for example from ~/.kde/share/config ?
[01:36] <acolytetojippity> hey, quick question.  is there any way to define an alias in .bashrc that can only be executed via sudo?
[01:37] <macfire> My ati graphic card doens work
[01:37] <dr_willis> simplew:  NO it will not
[01:38] <dr_willis> apt does not touch stuff in the users home dirs
[01:38] <simplew> dr_willis: so what the real differecne between remove and purge?
[01:38] <dr_willis> acolytetojippity:  make a script ant put it in /root/bin perhaps
[01:38] <dr_willis> simplew:  system config files will get removed with purge
[01:38] <dr_willis> NOT user files...
[01:39] <simplew> ok
[01:39] <mr_44> enriq:  search the "nvidia-96" in Software Center and install the one with VDPAU
[01:39] <acolytetojippity> so there are no ways to add a line in .bashrc?
[01:39] <acolytetojippity> damn.  ok.
[01:39] <dr_willis> acolytetojippity:  it wouldent make sence really....
[01:40] <mr_44> that's what's been proposed on several threads
[01:40] <acolytetojippity> true...
[01:40] <barcode> I have a strange question: How can I make every vowel character I type on the keyboard, use an umlaut?
[01:40] <barcode> automatically..
[01:41] <rchavik> hi.. i'm incorrectly used btrs for my '/' partition.  i would like to change it to ext4.  my plan is boot via CD, move the contents to another, reformat '/' and move the contents back.  what would be the next step?
[01:41] <snoozie> im thinking of installing ati graphic drivers, how would i fix it if it fails?
[01:42] <snoozie> and it will most likely fail, but im desperate to get textures in one of my games
[01:42] <EdLin_> 12.04 LTS, I'm unable to log in as user, only as guest, or as root in rescue. When in root in rescue mode, I can su to the user and do everything but load X in it. I've tried switching to GDM, but it gives me the same errors.
[01:43] <snoozie> rchavik, im gonna hazard a guess that you will need to re-install grub after that
[01:43] <EdLin_> I'm also sure, in case you weren't here when I asked before, that I am getting my password right. :)
[01:43] <rchavik> snoozie, using grub-install ?
[01:43] <EdLin_> hello?
[01:44] <snoozie> rchavik, ill do some googling and see what i find, 12.04 uses grub 2 now
[01:44] <dr_willis> EdLin_:  check ownership of your .Xauthority file
[01:44] <EdLin_> dr_willis, what should it be, my user?
[01:44] <dr_willis> your users hoime has it yes.
[01:44] <googler123> Hi everyone I cant download and install unity from synaptic, it gives hash sum mismatch and not found errors. I have tried sudo apt-get update, it too gives not found errors
[01:45] <rchavik> hmm.. i'm on 12.04 LTS and it has 1.99-21ubuntu3.4
[01:45] <mdspencer> How can I speed up Ubuntu 13.04 running in VirtualBox on Ubuntu? Windows, menus, etc are slow.
[01:45] <acolytetojippity> @dr_willis ok, this is a noob question, but...how do i access root/bin?
[01:45] <dr_willis> acolytetojippity:  its just a directory you make,
[01:45] <EdLin_> dr_willis, .Xauthority checks out.
[01:45] <dr_willis> acolytetojippity:  use sudo as needed
[01:45] <acolytetojippity> so, it wolnd't be in \root\bin?
[01:46] <acolytetojippity> i already have a root folder in my \
[01:46] <dr_willis> EdLin_:  make a new user - if they work. that points to a user config file issue.
[01:46] <snoozie> rchavik, its grub2, and looks like ur right grub-install, if your not familiar with the process have a look here, /windows/Program Files/Ubisoft/Rayman Origins
[01:46] <EdLin_> dr_willis, I tried making a new user, it also fails.
[01:46] <snoozie> oops
[01:46] <dr_willis> acolytetojippity:  and you make a bin direcotry in \root]\
[01:47] <acolytetojippity> i can't even cd to \root\
[01:47] <snoozie> rchavik, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> snoozie: you won't be able to run games like that in Wine unless the game is very portable
[01:47] <dr_willis> you need to use sudo.be root ... to get in there i imagine
[01:47] <acolytetojippity> sudo.be?
[01:47] <rchavik> snoozie, thanks
[01:47] <EdLin_> dr_willis, though when I made the user, I did move my old user's home directory over to it, and changed permissions. It wouldn't log in though.
[01:47] <snoozie> ActionParsnip, lols thanks for noticing, ive installed a prefix for it and moved the folder
[01:48] <mr_44> mdspencer:  what's your ram size? how much VB uses?
[01:48] <EdLin_> changed owner I mean
[01:48] <macfire> I need Help to install my ati drivers
[01:48] <snoozie> ActionParsnip, only thing im missing now is graphic drivers, which i dont think are supported with my hardware
[01:49] <EdLin_> dr_willis,  got any other ideas?
[01:49] <macfire> My graphic is ATI radeon hd 6700 and my ubuntu is 12.10
[01:49] <dr_willis> if a newly made users default settings fail. that points to some systenm config issue. is all i can say
[01:50] <EdLin_> dr_willis, that's a little vague. :)
[01:50] <snoozie> if i fubar this graphic driver install how would i fix the issue
[01:51] <EdLin_> dr_willis, I don't want to reinstall, just spent hours building an Android ROM and I'd lose my work on that.
[01:51] <TheLordOfTime> snoozie, did you check the hardware drivers tool to see if there's any drivers available for download?
[01:51] <dr_willis> I dont see why you would lose it...
[01:51] <snoozie> TheLordOfTime, yes i did and no there arent
[01:52] <EdLin_> dr_willis, reinstalling would mean I'd have to start all over again, I don't have enough backup media to store it all on. (Takes up many gigs of space)
[01:52] <mdspencer> mr_44: 1536 MB ram, 128 MB video, and I have guest additions
[01:52] <snoozie> TheLordOfTime, seems the FireGL that is in this laptop has been tweaked by HP, and they dont offer linux drivers on their site
[01:52] <EdLin_> besides, this is Linux, not Windows, I shouldn't have to reinstall. :)
[01:52] <dr_willis> ive done full installs of ubunto onto 8gb usb flash drives. )
[01:53] <mr_44> mdspencer: how much VB uses?
[01:53] <dr_willis> if its only unity messing up. try a differnt desktopo untill you figure it out i guess
[01:53] <mdspencer> mr_44: what do you mean?
[01:53] <EdLin_> dr_willis, yes, and did you have enough space left over to compile a patched version of Cyanogenmod 10 in your home directory on it? :)
[01:54] <zykotick9> acolytetojippity: just in case.  you seem to be using the wrong slash for directories!  it's /.  NOT \.
[01:54] <EdLin_> dr_willis, maybe it is Unity, let me install another WM.
[01:54] <dr_willis> edlinn_ you still ahve your hard drive for workspace
[01:54] <EdLin_> what's the best command to install GNOME?
[01:54] <macfire> i have problem with install ATI driver
[01:54] <zykotick9> !notunity | EdLin_
[01:54] <macfire> my unity doesnt work
[01:54] <mr_44> mdspencer:  I mean you have a ram for your root system and ram that dedicated for VB guest system.
[01:56] <macfire> How I do for my graphic card work like in Windows?
[01:56] <newps> Hello. For some reason, my Ubuntu installation consistently runs 10C hotter than when on Windows. What measures can I use to reduce the heat? According to my manufacturer, fan control is automated and cannot be accessed by the user.
[01:57] <mdspencer> mr_44: I have 1536 MB assigned to the VM in its settings dialog, which is close to the max recommended amount. Total I have 4096 MB in my computer.
[01:58] <zykotick9> mdspencer: do you have 3d enabled in your VM, and is the video memory (in the VM) set to maximum?  alternatively, install a lighter DE/WM.
[01:58] <TheLordOfTime> mdspencer, uh... you could run with less than max recommended...
[01:58] <TheLordOfTime> mdspencer, and assign less video power.  unless you're testing graphics-intense things, you don't need "max" recommended anything for a VM
[01:58] <mr_44> mdspencer: That's pretty much. FS type on host|guest?
[01:59] <mdspencer> zykotick9: Yes and yes. I want default DE for bug testing.
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> mdspencer: try a lighter desktop like LXDE or XFCE, you'll probably find it a lot quicker
[01:59] <zykotick9> mdspencer: gnome3/unity isn't exactly going to be blazing fast under a VM... best of luck.
[01:59] <mdspencer> Would I get better performance with less video memory?
[01:59] <macfire> ActionParsnip,  Do you have a Tutorial for install ATI drivers?
[02:00] <mdspencer> mr_44: Do you mean filesystem type?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> !ati | macfire
[02:00] <EdLin_> I just installed GNOME, I think it's going to unity shell instead though, so I haven't been able to test my user with it. How do I get it to launch?
[02:00] <acolytetojippity> ok, so i got into root\bin, but I can't execute the script i made...i think i did it very wrong.
[02:00] <EdLin_> !gnome-tweak-tools
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> EdLin_: install gnome-panel package and log off and you will be able to use a gnome2 like session
[02:01] <mr_44> mdspencer: Filesystem = FS :) Yes
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> EdLin_: alternatively (and without dumb quirks) you can install XFCE and use that, its a lot like Gnome2 and you can run your Gnome apps there without issue
[02:02] <mdspencer> mr_44: just the default, ext4
[02:02] <dsprc> !tell Albastos|off about away
[02:04] <mdspencer> what would be a good amount of ram and video mem to use for the VM?
[02:05] <JasonC__> i have winodws 7 lite VM on virtualbox ubuntu and now for some reason is not working properly, it shows windows is loading files and when it gets to the part with the windows logo and the green bar loading screen, it freezes and the bar moves only every about 10 seconds, help!
[02:06] <dsprc> mdspencer: more is always better if you've got it. 1GiB ram and 64-128 vid mem should be more than enough
[02:08] <JasonC__> i have winodws 7 lite VM and now for some reason is not working properly, it shows windows is loading files and when it gets to the part with the windows logo and the green bar loading screen, it freezes and the bar moves only every about 10 seconds, help!
[02:08] <bazhang> JasonC__, try in #vbox
[02:09] <dsprc> JasonC__: dont flood please... or try ##windows
[02:10] <mr_44> mdspencer: i'd recommend you to switch on ext2 FS on guest Ubuntu, disable all effects and/or try gnome-desktop. Plus you can give a try to VMware.  On guest WIN systems Vbox significantly faster but the MacOS ran smoother and faster on VMWare than on Virtualbox as for me.
[02:10] <manolos> hi does anyone knows the ppa for google-chrome?
[02:11] <OerHeks> manolos, google dropped their ppa, the version tru software centre is up2date
[02:12] <estevo> hello
[02:12] <OerHeks> correction, the version from their site is up2date
[02:12] <manolos> how can i download software center? i have nothing except fluxbox slim and xorg. ubuntu minimal install
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Jaska_: I'd ask in #vbox and ##windows
[02:13] <mdspencer> mr_44: thanks, I'll try using VMWare with ext2.
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> manolos: when you install the deb for google chrome, it add the google PPA for you
[02:13] <mikemog> Hello, after installing security updates tonight my unity refuses to launch.  Please read about my problem here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12339296   I was hoping someone here might have a solution
[02:14] <manolos> oh ok thanks. i guess ill have to download it from google official site. thanks
[02:14] <OerHeks> manolos,  > https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[02:14] <manolos> thank you very much
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> manolos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1336397/
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> manolos: if you add the PPA manually, you will need to import the key manually. The deb does all that for you
[02:15] <manolos> thats better! thank you!
[02:15] <dsprc> manolos: and if you want the software center then just 'aptitude install software-center' or lubuntu-software-center even
[02:15] <manolos> interesting
[02:15] <manolos> ill try it
[02:15] <manolos> im out for reboot ;)
[02:15] <manolos> ty
[02:16] <mr_44> mdspencer: you can try to install gnome on your 12.04 for the beginning if you're not using it for Unity :) My laptop runs really faster on 12.04 gnome/ext2 than on unity/ext3 or ext4
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> re....boot?
[02:17] <mikemog> BUMP: Hello, after installing security updates tonight unity refuses to launch.  Read here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1336400/  Hoping someone here might have a solution...
[02:18] <gustav__> Stop launching updates that breaks peoples computers. xD
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> mikemog: why pastebin a URL?
[02:18] <hollinheadk> having touchscreen issues can anyone help
[02:19] <gustav__> That's what viruses do.
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> mikemog: if you make a new user and log in there, is it ok?
[02:19] <mikemog> first time on this IRC channel, didn't know what the etiquette was
[02:19] <mikemog> let me try
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> mikemog: pastebins are for posting multiple lines, so the channel doesn't scroll. The URL is one line so is fine to post :)
[02:20] <mikemog> ActionParsnip: ok :)
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> mikemog: what GPU are you using too?
[02:20] <hollinheadk> new to buntu and need help with cx210x touchscreen
[02:20] <mikemog> Radeon HD 6310
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> mikemog: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    (one line, so no need to pastebin) :)
[02:20] <mikemog> part ofthe AMD fusion platform for netbooks
[02:21] <mikemog> lsb_release -sc = quantal
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> mikemog: tried a new ubuntu user, see if its the same
[02:22] <bkfitz> ubuntu 12.04 on old acer laptop and broadcom wifi card that I can't get working... did upgrade and update and still I get no wlan0 when i run ifconfig
[02:22] <bkfitz> help
[02:22] <mikemog> havn't created a new user yet, but guest account has same problem
[02:22] <hollinheadk> helpppp!!!!!! pleaseeee!!!!!
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: connect to a wired connection and get updated, you can then easily install the drivers
[02:22] <mikemog> if its faster than me looking it up, how do I create a new user from the terminal?
[02:23] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: i'm wired now :)
[02:23] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: ran the update and upgrade and still no dice
[02:23] <bazhang> !helpme | hollinheadk
[02:23] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: glad you're here :)
[02:23] <LordTrev> Why on earth did Ubuntu just let me remove -apt- without giving me that "Yes, do as I say!" warning?
[02:23] <LordTrev> And, uh, how do I fix this?
[02:24] <chairman_meow> apt-get
[02:24] <loadid> pflash the dram LordTrev
[02:24] <LordTrev> Yes thank you
[02:24] <LordTrev> I'll just get right to that won't I
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | bkfitz
[02:24] <hollinheadk> ubuntu 12.04 trying to gettouchscreen to work , sorry about that earlier
[02:25] <LordTrev> pffffbt
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> hollinheadk: are there bugs reported?
[02:25] <hollinheadk> no it just tells me that there are no calibratable devices found when i try to calibrate
[02:26] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: ubottu: this is soooo frustrating bc theis laptop is dooooog slow compared to my new daily ssd x1 carbon
[02:27] <loadid> copy the deb file from /var/cache/apt?
[02:27] <mikemog> ActionParsnip: created a new user and rebooted.  tried to login and screen flashed black and returned me to login screen.
[02:27] <hollinheadk> it is a gateway cx210x with a new stylus
[02:27] <mikemog> ActionParsnip: no wrong password error.  If I enter the password wrong on purpose it will give me the error
[02:28] <LordTrev> Well, mighty usefull channel you've got yourself here. Anyway, just installed the stuff with dpkg, thank ye
[02:29] <kevin_> hi all. how can i switch users without logging the current person out? ie, i want to start another x11 window session on :1 with another user. is that possible?
[02:29] <hollinheadk> <action parsnip> I have tried several things to fix it but nothing I can think of to fix it works
[02:29] <kevin_> hope i'm explaining that right.
[02:30] <LordTrev> kevin_: Do you use a display manager?
[02:30] <cfhowlett> kevin_: su otherusername
[02:30] <hollinheadk> what is display manager ? Im new to this
[02:30] <OpenSorce> Off topic: Is google down for anyone else?
[02:30] <kevin_> LordTrev: yeah, lightdm with gnome classic
[02:30] <lucido> how do I make a master mode wifi access point in ubuntu?
[02:30] <lucido> need it because me android phone cant see ad-hoc networks
[02:31] <cfhowlett> OpenSorce: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[02:31] <LordTrev> kevin_: well yes it is possible, I don't know of any elegant ways to use do it, but off the top of my head: use xscreensaver-command to lock xscreensaver and click 'switch user'
[02:31] <OpenSorce> cfhowlett, yeah... that seems to be down too and websitedown.info reports it's up. Anyways, sorry for the off-topic
[02:31] <microm> is it possible to install gcc-4.7 without breaking the system, I'd like to use it as an alternative compiler for D (gdc)
[02:32] <LordTrev> There's certainly a more elegant method that doesn't require xscreensaver but that's what I know
[02:32] <cfhowlett> OpenSorce: no worries
[02:32] <lucido> ctrl-something l
[02:32] <LordTrev> microm: are you installing manually? as in from source?
[02:32] <kevin_> LordTrev: ah, alright. thanks. for some reason xbmc stutters when playing HD shows if i'm running it inside gnome, but not if i'm running it standalone... dunno what that's all about either but that's a whole different issue, heh
[02:35] <microm> LordTrev: no, from the package manager
[02:36] <LordTrev> microm: well then it shouldn't break anything, should it?
[02:36] <microm> LordTrev: I guess.
[02:37] <snoozie> is there an ati or amd channel i could go to?
[02:37] <snoozie> this not having a driver is seriously disappointing
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> snoozie: there is a PPA with a legacy driver, may help
[02:38] <lulu> I'm using "remotedesktop client" but I can't get it to maximize window. is there an alternative soft that has this feature???
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> snoozie: http://www.ashwinraon.com/2012/10/amd-legacy-driver-solution-for-ubuntu-12-10/
[02:39] <snoozie> ActionParsnip, the problem i seem to be having is that HP has modified this chipset
[02:40] <Us14> Teamviewer¿
[02:40] <Us14> Lulu
[02:40] <lulu> TeamViewer?
[02:40] <snoozie> ActionParsnip, on windows i had to go to hp to get the driver for xp and install in compatibility mode
[02:40] <snoozie> under winodws 7
[02:40] <Us14> Ye
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> snoozie: oh jeez, sounds brilliant
[02:41] <lulu> which is the most used client in ubuntu nowadays?
[02:41] <Us14> Lulu yes
[02:41] <lulu> TeamViewer is?
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> lulu: teamviewer is proprietary afaik, so the only client is teamviewer
[02:41] <snoozie> ActionParsnip, yeah considering ati has drivers that support this card in linux, while hp does not
[02:43] <lulu> ActionParsnip: but teamviewer doesn't sound like built specially to connect remotely to a windows machine
[02:43] <lulu> am I right?
[02:44] <Jeruvy> lulu no, it will work fine with windows.
[02:45] <lulu> seems like rdesktop has a command to view in full screen
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> lulu: it can run in wine
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> lulu: what do you want to achieve by connecting to the remote system? What is the purpose of the connection?
[02:45] <lulu> ActionParsnip: not what I'm trying to do
[02:46] <lulu> remote administration
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> lulu: yes, but in what way?
[02:46] <lulu> I want to see the screen and do cool stuff
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> lulu: yes, but what do you want to do?
[02:46] <lulu> not a terminal
[02:47] <lulu> I need the full view with gui
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> lulu: 9 times out of 10, there is a sleeker solution
[02:47] <lulu> naaa this is a long process I need to do lots of stuff
[02:47] <InFlames> hello
[02:48] <almoxarife> lulu: two choices, rdp or vlc, both require firewall permission, vlc is the one most common
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> lulu: like what?
[02:48] <InFlames> can someone please help me with an nvidia/black screen problem, it doesn't seem to fall under any problems I could find
[02:48] <lulu> vlc? you mean vnc?
[02:48] <almoxarife> lulu: yes, vnc
[02:49] <lulu> I'll try rdesktop full screen mode first
[02:49] <lulu> thanks bye
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: is this on the installed OS or during install
[02:49]  * ActionParsnip bet's lulu is getting to the desktop then opening a terminal
[02:50] <InFlames> it's on an installed os, I changed the default video driver to the nvidia-current-update and rebooted, now when i login it goes nuts, then i get a completely black desktop with my mouse cursor
[02:50] <InFlames> it also seems to be displaying random shapes...
[02:50] <Guest43300> can someone help me the jquery file i put in the folder isnt showing
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: do you use a switchable video chip (intel and nvidia)
[02:51] <gustav__> Guest43300: Get a flashlight.
[02:51] <almoxarife> Guest43300: what folder and what file name?
[02:51] <InFlames> i don't believe so, it's a geforce 9300 ge
[02:52] <InFlames> i suppose it's possible, the machine is a lenovo, using it was an emergency decision
[02:52] <gustav__> InFlames: Sir, is your computer on fire?
[02:52] <Guest43300> i named the folder js and its from the jquery site
[02:52] <InFlames> no, it's not, but if i can't fixi it, it's about to be
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: if you press CTRL+ALT+T   do you get a temrinal?
[02:53] <InFlames> ActionParsnip: no terminal, but the weird grey shape on the screen went away
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 you can log in there and remove the driver you added
[02:54] <InFlames> ActionParsnip: thank you
[02:55] <almoxarife> Guest43300: did you create the folder in a hidden dir/folder or did you create a hidden file (.somename ) would be hidden
[02:56] <InFlames> what is the correct name of the driver in the repository? i just tried "nvidia-current-updates" and "nvidia-current" neither worked
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: remove all the packages with 'nvidia' in the but not 'nvidia-common'
[02:56] <InFlames> i wouldn't ask but i can't see it
[02:57] <Guest43300> ok so how how do i unhide it
[03:02] <InFlames> ActionParsnip: i did "apt-cache search nvidia" and there is like 20+
[03:02] <InFlames> i only installed 1
[03:02] <gustav__> Ubuntu isn't a very complete system, is it?
[03:03] <Spark> hi, what is the expected behaviour if i don't have gdm / xdm / etc installed, and i boot up
[03:03] <Spark> i just get the splash screen hanging there
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: thats the available packages, not the installed ones
[03:04] <Spark> i think it may be interfering with X startup, because it's still running
[03:04] <almoxarife> Spark: yeap, that's the expected behavior on tty7, the graphics screen
[03:04] <Spark> running X manually at the console
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: dpkg -l | grep nvidia | grep -v nvidia-current
[03:04] <ak5> ok guys, I have an issue. I have a headless server I want to use to host WinXP VMs. How do I install WinXP without graphics?
[03:04] <InFlames> ok dkpg
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: your apt-cache search command lists every package with nvidia in them, it doesn't just show the installed ones
[03:05] <Spark> almoxarife: ok and that will interoperate properly with X if i start it?
[03:05] <Spark> almoxarife: this is an ati radeon using the drm driver
[03:05] <almoxarife> ak5: you install virtualbox and you run it headless
[03:05] <InFlames> ActionParsnip: ok, that's what i was suspecting
[03:05] <Smackbook> whats the quickest way to copy my OS onto another disk drive and start booting off of that instead ("upgrade" my OS drive lets say)?  ddrescue?  making a tarball? (I expect to have to chroot and purge/update grub)
[03:06] <ak5> almoxarife: ok, I woud use qemu --enable-kvm but still the question remains, how to install xp without gfx?
[03:06] <dsprc> ak5: virtualbox has a builtin RDP server. just connect to that to view the gui
[03:06] <ak5> dsprc: does that load up during the install prcess?
[03:06] <loadid> InFlames: tab complete apt-get remove nvidia
[03:06] <almoxarife> ak5: that's off topic, you need the docs for what ever you want to use
[03:06] <Spark> http://spark.woaf.net/Xorg.0.log
[03:07] <Spark> i did some googling for that [   224.714] (EE) RADEON(0): [drm] failed to set drm interface version.
[03:07] <Spark> but i only found bugs about X starting before plymouth had finished
[03:07] <almoxarife> Spark: is there a reason for not installing gdm/kdm/lightdm ?
[03:07] <Spark> i have not used them for years
[03:07] <Spark> i just tried gdm though
[03:07] <dsprc> ak5: you can launch the rdp server with a command line switch when you fire up the vm
[03:08] <Spark> it 'fliuckers'
[03:08] <Spark> *flickers
[03:08] <Spark> and running X directly ought to work at any rate
[03:08] <ak5> dsprc: ok
[03:08] <Spark> i've tried different vts, no change
[03:08] <Spark> except for 1-6 where it gives a different error message, but then i'd expect that to not work
[03:09] <dsprc> ak5: it will be there even if youre not installing anything or dont even have any boot media
[03:09] <Spark> i've run out of ideas
[03:10] <Spark> this is all because fglrx has stopped supporting my chipset in the latest version :(
[03:11] <ak5> If I choose virtualmachinehost from ubuntu-server setup, what software gets installed?
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> Spark: have you tried the legacy fglrx ppa?
[03:13] <Blaze> hey guys
[03:14] <Guest58704> just wanna ask, is 512mb of ram is enough to run 12.10?
[03:14] <Guest58704> please answer, thanks
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest58704: sure
[03:15] <Guest58704> oh ya?
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest58704: I'd go with Lubuntu to give a snappier OS
[03:15] <Guest58704> oh ok how to change it?
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest58704: how do you mean 'change it', just download the Lubunru ISO and install it
[03:15] <Spark> ActionParsnip: what's that, a package?
[03:15] <dsprc> Guest58704: you may have better results with lubuntu. a bit more lightweight than the default gnome setup
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest58704: or do you already have Quantal installed?
[03:15] <Guest58704> will it lag?
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest58704: with Lubuntu, doubtful
[03:16] <Guest58704> ActionParnship: not yet
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Spark: http://www.ashwinraon.com/2012/10/amd-legacy-driver-solution-for-ubuntu-12-10/
[03:16] <dsprc> Guest58704: as long as youre not doing lots of 3d or using firefox you should be ok most of the time
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest58704: then grab the lubuntu ISO and install using that, it isdesigned to be light
[03:17] <Anarhist> hello, can somebody help me, i remember seeing somewhere that it's possible to add live iso for ubuntu as one of the menu items in grub
[03:19] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: still no luck... I think I must have more than one driver installed and it's getting confused as to which to use
[03:19] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: how can i figure out which are installed, which are trying to load, and why it's failing
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: driver for what, please?
[03:20] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: broadcom wifi
[03:21] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: old laptop with Broadcom wifi that isnt working
[03:21] <tjmehta> If I have ssh keys for two servers, whats the best way to transfer files (scp) from serverA to serverB without having to add keys to serverA?
[03:21] <Guest58704> ActionParnship; thank you very much
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: could try the jockey app and disable the driver to uninstall it. The broadcom how to also lists a tonne of packages which you can uninstall to remove the drivers
[03:22] <tjmehta> -- from my local
[03:22] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: jockey app?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: yes, its a GUI for enabling drivers
[03:22] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: USC or Synaptic
[03:23] <Guest58704> ActionParnship: is the jockey app ieasy to use?
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: jockey is its own app
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: USC and synaptic are the same difference
[03:25] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: it looks like it's already installed but I don't see it in the menu
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: just run it from a temrinal
[03:27] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: jockey-gtk... got it... trying now thx
[03:27] <bitgod> i changed my environment to Gnome 3 Classic
[03:27] <bitgod> how do i make it stay that way when i reboot?
[03:27] <Holy_Chipotle> So, uhh, this is kind of off-topic, but what are some good general chat channels on freenode?
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> bitgod: afaik, the last session each user used is remembered
[03:28] <Holy_Chipotle> Please respond.
[03:28] <bitgod> ok good ty :)
[03:28] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: it says no proprietary drivers in use... then it lists the broadcom drivers and says this driver is installed but not currently in use... so it must not be getting enabled correctly in init??
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> Holy_Chipotle: try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[03:28] <gustav__> ^ Vendor lock-in. -.-"
[03:28] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: "This driver is activated but not curretnly in use"
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm    do you get messages about missing firmware?
[03:29] <gustav__> My mousepad settings have stopped working. I have the horizontal scrolling checked but it doesn't scroll.
[03:30] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: only one line result : [    0.078446] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored
[03:30] <chipotle_> how do i make it so i don't ahve to enter my sudo password each time i sudo?
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: i suggest you read the broadcom guide, look at the broadcom chip you have and work from there
[03:30] <chipotle_> i forget what file i need to eidt
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> chipotle_: run:   sudo -i
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> chipotle_: you can then run all the commands you like and they will run as root
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> chipotle_: then run:  exit    and you wil be user again
[03:31] <chipotle_> i do sudo -s and prefer that, but i have to input my passwd once
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> chipotle_: well, yeah thats a good thing
[03:32] <Magiobiwan> chipotle_: If you have actual root access, you can also use su
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Magiobiwan: its not supported here
[03:32] <Magiobiwan> I think
[03:32] <chipotle_> ActionParsnip: not for this case, it's not
[03:32] <Magiobiwan> Oh
[03:32] <chipotle_> i think i need to add a line to /etc/sudoers
[03:32] <Magiobiwan> Silly Ubuntu
[03:32] <chipotle_> lemme check my other server
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Magiobiwan: no, smart
[03:33] <Magiobiwan> Heh
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> Magiobiwan: you can control exactly who can use sudo and who cannot by groups, you can even use sudoers to grant users access to commands and so forrh. Its a much more granular security model
[03:33] <Magiobiwan> Let's just NOT start arguing that.
[03:34] <Magiobiwan> I prefer CentOS for my servers.
[03:34] <Magiobiwan> Idk why I hang here.
[03:34] <gustav__> But Ubuntu isn't really a secure OS, is it?
[03:34] <Magiobiwan> I don't like Ubuntu really.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: its as secure as you make it, just like any other OS
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> Magiobiwan: my servers run puppy, but are dying so will probably go debian
[03:36] <Magiobiwan> I'm gonna move to PCLinuxOS on my computers soon
[03:36] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: You don't think the odds of attacks differ from different platforms?
[03:36] <chipotle_> gustav__: distros don't make you secure, the admin makes you secure
[03:37] <gustav__> Doesn't distros have admins?
[03:37] <Magiobiwan> You do have to work to make your install secure.
[03:37] <gustav__> I get sent a lot of packages from Ubuntu. Don't have time to check them all, really.
[03:37] <dsprc> chipotle_: sometimes the distro makes you insecure. a la debian ssl fiasco
[03:37] <gustav__> A lot of packages are already installed.
[03:38] <Ozera> ubuntu 12.04
[03:38] <Ozera> What is /var/log/messages for? Just general system messages?
[03:38] <gustav__> Who knows what all of them are doing.
[03:38] <chipotle_> Ozera: it's for app's logs
[03:38] <chipotle_> e.g. your webserver logs, etc
[03:39] <gustav__> /var/log/messages is the syslog.
[03:39] <Ozera> See I get different answers
[03:39] <gustav__> Some webservers post to it, some have their own logfiles.
[03:39] <Ozera> webserver? My laptop is not a webserver
[03:39] <gustav__> I don't know what you mean by "general."
[03:39] <Ozera> define webserver
[03:40] <gustav__> Ozera: Program serving http requests.
[03:40] <Ozera> kk
[03:40]  * Ozera thanks gustav__ 
[03:40] <Magiobiwan> Ex. Apache, nginx,
[03:40] <Magiobiwan> There's a few others
[03:40] <gustav__> No worries, mate.
[03:40] <gustav__> Linux is complex as h-ll.
[03:41] <ak5> hey, I just edited my /etc/network/interfaces to have a static ip for eth0, now I want to change my default dns server, but it says to not manually edit /etc/resolv.conf - how do I do this in ubuntu?
[03:41] <chipotle_> Ozera: use nginx tho ;)
[03:41] <borax> someone how speak spanish ?
[03:41] <Ozera> chipotle_: Hm?
[03:41] <dsprc> !es|borax
[03:41] <borax> ok
[03:41] <chipotle_> nevermind
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: any OS can be attacked
[03:42] <gustav__> borax: Peqeño.
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: 'admins' in what way?
[03:42] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Oh, sure, but who will hold up.
[03:42] <borax> jaja
[03:42] <dsprc> gustav__: not just http. technically gopher space is "the web" too :)
[03:43] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Package maintainers. What else... lots of things.
[03:43] <gustav__> dsprc: Oh, I didn't know that. Perhaps FTP, too?
[03:43] <chipotle_> don't use ftp
[03:44] <chipotle_> use sftp
[03:44] <gustav__> There's ftp-ssl.
[03:44] <ak5> hey, I just edited my /etc/network/interfaces to have a static ip for eth0, now I want to change my default dns server, but it says to not manually edit /etc/resolv.conf - how do I do this in ubuntu?
[03:44] <chipotle_> waste
[03:44] <chipotle_> sftp is the openssh interface
[03:44] <chipotle_> use that
[03:45] <gustav__> Well, I can't, with my host. It sucks.
[03:45] <gustav__> I use sftp, too.
[03:45] <chipotle_> change hosts
[03:45] <gustav__> My host is a real retard. I know, he went to my class.
[03:46] <gustav__> Yeah, I've thought about that. Problem is it's a lot of job. I might, in the future.
[03:46] <chipotle_> what do you mean? he's mentally challenged and he runs a hosting company? wow
[03:46] <chipotle_> i figure you need at least a 100 iq to do that
[03:46] <f0urtyfive> anyone in here know the default password and username for the openstack-dashboard package?
[03:47] <gustav__> Being a retard can be behaving as an asshole, too.
[03:47] <f0urtyfive> I cant seem to find it anywhere...
[03:47] <IdleOne> !language | gustav__
[03:47] <wfelipe> is anyone running ubuntu on macbook pro 8,2? using efi boot
[03:48] <gustav__> Censoring on the Internet is really a dead cause. So many ways to get around that.
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: more are decentralised but there are meetings and such
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: canonical has mark shuttleworth
[03:49] <ak5> gustav__: tell that to the Chinese
[03:49] <chipotle_> ak5: what do you mean?
[03:49] <Guest80447> hello all, I just have a fresh install with xubuntu 12.04.1 alt cd, but when it boot, it doesn't display anything text or splash, the monitor even lost signal  for a few secs. It does boot into system at last and run flawlessly, but it's just bugs me. I tried booting with nomodeset seems the monitor doesnt lose signal but still no display during the boot
[03:49] <ak5> chipotle_: internet censorship is rampant in china
[03:49] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Hm? Administration?
[03:49] <Guest80447> and by the way I'm a chinese = =
[03:49] <chipotle_> ak5:  oh i know
[03:50] <chipotle_> i was just reading r/mensrights today and they were talking about sexism
[03:50] <gustav__> Censorship is everywhere, don't kid yourselves.
[03:50] <chipotle_> they recommend that you act dumb and ask questions in return
[03:50] <InFlames> ActionParsnip: what is the name for dkpg in apt? "sudo apt-get intall ?"
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> ak5: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf    or:  sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf    If you are using static IP you can uninstall network manager if you want (assuming it is not using wifi and doesn't intend to travel)
[03:51] <gustav__> chipotle_: If you change the uid of your user to 0 you won't have to use sudo at all.
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: in what sense? You can't through out stupendoudsly ambigiuous words and expect an intelligent answer...
[03:51] <chipotle_> gustav__: that wouldn't be smart
[03:51] <ak5> ActionParsnip: ok, it just tells me not to edit the file, I just killed the dhclient3 process, cause it was changing the file all the time, now i will put my nameservers manually
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: your question doesn't make sense
[03:51] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: They collect and send out packages to users.
[03:51] <InFlames> i need to install dkpg, how do i do that
[03:52] <InFlames> when i ran the suggest command it said dkpg is not installed
[03:52] <tsimpson> InFlames: you have it already
[03:52] <gustav__> chipotle_: I think it works, actually. But it breaks a lot of things, sure. But a lot will work too.
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> ak5: it gets generated by network manager, you can also add the name server definition in the interfaces file too
[03:52] <tsimpson> !resolvconf | ak5
[03:52] <ak5> ActionParsnip: I am using ubuntu-server
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: so the packagers
[03:52] <InFlames> i thought i did too tsimpson
[03:52] <tsimpson> InFlames: apt uses it, you must have it or you can't install anything via apt-get
[03:52] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: The name of this product is being administrated.
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> ak5: its the same on server and desktop, you can define the nameserver in the interfaces file
[03:52] <ak5> ActionParsnip: I can do dns my.nameserver.ip  in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:52] <InFlames> ok, well first off, i'm an idiot and typed "dkpg", when it's "dpkg"
[03:52] <InFlames> ...sorry for that one
[03:53] <OerHeks> Inflames dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[03:53] <tsimpson> InFlames: typos get us all
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: to install a deb you downloaded - sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:53] <gustav__> Linux/Ubuntu is hard to use for a power user.
[03:53] <InFlames> they have been the bane of my linux experience
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: define power user...
[03:53] <chipotle_> i don't know why you think that
[03:53] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Developers.
[03:53] <chipotle_> i can set up a lemp server in 20 minutes
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: There are plenty of development tools in the repos
[03:54] <gustav__> That's not a power user. A 3 year old can use an iPad. Is that a power user?
[03:54] <tsimpson> ak5: you can edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, look at the "prepend domain-name-servers" part, that allows you to "override" what you get over DHCP
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: you started all this...
[03:54] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: I thought Mark Shuttleworth did.
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: there i build-essential in the repos for an ansi standard c compiler and each package has a dev package for the headers, so you can compile apps
[03:55] <Ozera> Can someone explain to me what a 'Kernel Panic' is? Ubuntu 12.04.
[03:55] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: That stuff is hard to use.
[03:55] <chipotle_> Ozera: a bad thing
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: no..the whole 'power user' thing
[03:55] <Ozera> chipotle_: More detail please.
[03:55] <chipotle_> it is equivalent of the blue screen of death in windows
[03:55] <chipotle_> restart
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: what? installingb packages so you can build.. are you serious
[03:55] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: But I have compiled and made a package, actually. It wasn't that hard. A bit inconsistent, I give you that.
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: that's development
[03:56] <gustav__> Yeah.
[03:56] <OerHeks> any building error gives a clue what is missing/wrong, so it is not that hard
[03:56] <gustav__> Ozera: Your system gave up. It's probably Linux Torvalds' fault.
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: but  you said Ubuntu made things hard for power users..which you subsequently larified as developers
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> *clarified
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: but then you said making a package and compiling from source was easy
[03:57] <Ozera> gustav__: I want a real explination please
[03:57] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Yes. Without a package system installing source packages is easy, yes, maintaining them is hard, yes.
[03:57] <somsip> Ozera: it's when the kernel does something that it doesn't expect to do, and can't recover from the problem
[03:57] <InFlames> ActionParsnip: ok, so weird, it says tht nvidia-common and nvidia-settings are all that's installed
[03:57] <gustav__> Ozera: Then I would have to see the screen it showed you.
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: so how does ubuntu make it hard for developers when the thinngs they need are in convenient packages?
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: makes absolutely zero sense
[03:57] <Ozera> somsip: mk
[03:57] <somsip> gustav__: so, do you have a support issue?
[03:58] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: This information is not presented to the user.
[03:58] <gustav__> somsip: Oh, I have many.
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: the lay user will not be concerned with this and use the available packages
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: power users will be aware as they are the ones wanting to program and such
[03:58] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Maybe I'm getting used then.
[03:58] <somsip> gustav__: given you're in the support channel, how about asking one. Other chat is getting off topic
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: used in what way?
[03:59] <tsimpson> gustav__: there's also help.ubuntu.com and the forums, take your pick
[03:59] <gustav__> somsip: My mousepad doesn't scroll horizontally, although I have selected that checkbox in gnome-control-center. And it did indeed work before.
[03:59] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Accustomed.
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: maybe, but the compilers have a super sweet time due to the packaging of what the want to use, so I fail to see how ubuntu is not good for them
[04:00] <somsip> gustav__: I'm sorry, I can't help you with that one. But could the off-topic chat please go private or to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thank you
[04:00] <gustav__> somsip: What's off topic?
[04:01] <gustav__> somsip: Do you have a support issue?
[04:01] <somsip> gustav__: conversations that don't relate to support.
[04:01] <gustav__> Which are?
[04:01] <somsip> ignore gustav
[04:01] <somsip> Oh sorry
[04:01] <IdleOne> gustav__: discussing why you think that Ubuntu sucks is not a support related issue.
[04:01] <gustav__> Ubuntu is the best.
[04:02] <IdleOne> also not support related.
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: can you plese clarify...
[04:02] <InFlames> i am unsure what to do next, go to nvidia and curl the driver file and install it?
[04:02] <johnjacobjingerh> anyone know how to view read messages using the "mail" command line client?
[04:02] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: it would be better if you moved this to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:02] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: I haven't worked with this platform, this way, that much.
[04:02] <johnjacobjingerh> i can see my new messages i jst dont know how to get to my old folders
[04:02] <johnjacobjingerh> or my read messages
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: so your statements are founded on.....nothing?
[04:03] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Slackware packages, system.
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: i'm done, people making statements without prior knowledge and me shooting them down is fun :)
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: I'm moving on, I've dispelled all you have said
[04:04] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: I understand you wanted to educate a misinformed user and I appreciate it but you know this channel is not the right place :)
[04:04] <gustav__> I see.
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: np :)
[04:04] <InFlames> ActionParsnip: can you help me? i am lost
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: can't right now. 2 dumb citrix boxes dodn't come up nice
[04:05] <InFlames> bummer
[04:05] <somsip> InFlames: what was the original problem?
[04:05] <InFlames> somsip: nvidia drivers for a geforce 9300
[04:05] <somsip> InFlames: In what version of ubuntu? What have you tried?
[04:06] <InFlames> i installed one via the additional drivers option and it broke everything, i am trying to remove them, but they don't even seem to be installed, so i am trying to figure out what i need to install instead
[04:06] <InFlames> somsip: 12.04
[04:06] <InFlames> i also tried 12.10, but that had issues as well
[04:07] <OerHeks> InFlames, you need the 173 driver for that card
[04:07] <InFlames> i recall this, but can't remember what i need to do to install it
[04:07] <InFlames> sudo apt-get install nvidia-173?
[04:08] <somsip> InFlames: if this still applies it might not be good http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1984913
[04:08] <OerHeks> InFlames, yes, that is correct
[04:09] <OerHeks> somsip, current is 173.14.35 so the driver is updated
[04:09] <somsip> OerHeks: thanks for clarifying
[04:10] <johnjacobjingerh> can anyone help me figure out how the hell to get to my read mail with the mail command line tool
[04:11] <somsip> johnjacobjingerh: did you hit 'd' when you read the message?
[04:11] <johnjacobjingerh> no somsip
[04:11] <johnjacobjingerh> the messages get moved to /home/username/mbox
[04:12] <johnjacobjingerh> when i close to mail client
[04:12] <johnjacobjingerh> i just dont know how to view them
[04:12] <johnjacobjingerh> i did it once before
[04:12] <johnjacobjingerh> but cant figure out how to do it now
[04:12] <somsip> johnjacobjingerh: -f on the command line. check man mail
[04:13] <johnjacobjingerh> somsip: hmm my man pages only has an argument for -F not lowercase -f
[04:14] <johnjacobjingerh> and thats to save message according to sender
[04:14] <johnjacobjingerh> but let me try withy a lowercase -f
[04:14] <somsip> johnjacobjingerh: -f [file]  Read in the contents of your mailbox (or the specified file) for processing; when you quit, mail writes undeleted mes‐
[04:15] <schultza> im having problems setting up my hp officejet 4500 wireless ... i keeps giving me errors on the wireless setup by usb
[04:15] <johnjacobjingerh> somsip thanks :-)
[04:15] <johnjacobjingerh> worked
[04:16] <johnjacobjingerh> i dunno why i cant find that in my man pages
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: can you pastebin the output of:  dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[04:16] <schultza> http://pastebin.com/NjNriUVa is the error i am getting
[04:16] <somsip> johnjacobjingerh: np
[04:17] <const_antine> Hi, i have a problem with my laptop. It has Ubuntu 10.04 installed on it. The sound software won't recognize the headphones jacked in until I try pulling them out and plugging them back in again, and only when there's something playing.
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: is it a desktop OS?
[04:17] <const_antine> yes
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: you do know Lucid desktop has about 6 months support left?
[04:17] <const_antine> i do now
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: try the Lucid block of commands here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: personally I'd go for a clean install of Precise (for LTS support til 2017) or Quantal (for the latest bells and whistles)
[04:19] <schultza> http://pastebin.com/NjNriUVa - can anyone help me with my printer setup wireless by usb problem with an hp officejet 4500 wireless
[04:19] <const_antine> i see
[04:19] <austin> Question: Does Libreoffice just not work correctly in 12.10? It does't work on my laptop or my desktop. Anyone else?
[04:19] <const_antine> in the meantime, can i control where the sound goes?
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: a later alsa will probably help. Lucid has painfull old packages for a desktop OS imho
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> austin: try renaming its config folder then rerun it
[04:22] <manolos> hi. i want to install wine1.5. my installation is amd64. do i have to install wine1.5 or wine1.5-amd64??
[04:22] <aristidesfl> hi
[04:22] <aristidesfl> I'm trying to configure which dns server is used via command line
[04:23] <aristidesfl> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[04:23] <aristidesfl> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> aristidesfl: the order (top to bottom) is significant
[04:23] <aristidesfl>  /etc/resolv.conf has that ^
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> aristidesfl: you can add the name servers to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head   and they will be added when the server boots
[04:24] <InFlames> somsip: so the machine restarted after the drivers, now it thinks it's a laptop again, ideas?
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> aristidesfl: they wil get added to /etc/resolv.conf then used :)
[04:24] <aristidesfl> ActionParsnip that file says the same thing
[04:24] <InFlames> dpkg says nvidia-173, common, current, and settings
[04:25] <aristidesfl> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[04:25] <aristidesfl> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> aristidesfl: that's the file to add to. or you can add it in /etc/network/interfaces if you used that file to define address/subnet etc
[04:25] <aristidesfl> ActionParsnip I'm using dhcp
[04:25] <rhizmoe> what's a good writeup on process execution? like what happens after fork()...
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> aristidesfl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/157154/how-do-i-add-changes-resolv-conf-without-getting-overwritten
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> rhizmoe: not something I'm knowlegable on, sorry
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> rhizmoe: could try #linux and #bash
[04:26] <dsprc> !paste | aristidesfl
[04:28] <aristidesfl> [04:25:54] <ActionParsnip> aristidesfl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/157154/how-do-i-add-changes-resolv-conf-without-getting-overwritten   <--------- this worked thanks ;)
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> aristidesfl: yes, the dhcp servers for nameservers will flod in and be put in, the head servers are added first, then the dhcp ones, then the tail ones (as I understand it)
[04:30] <czfool> Hey I'm having a boot issue when I use the windows install, anyone wanna take a crack at it?
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> czfool: do you mean Wubi?
[04:30] <czfool> Yes
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Ozera: what is the issue?
[04:30]  * cfhowlett Wubi ... 
[04:31]  * ActionParsnip hates wubi
[04:31] <czfool> Heh, well I'm trying to set up a dual boot system.  Do you recommend going about it a different way?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> czfool: resize your NTFS and make free space (Win7 can do this to itself), then install to the freed space
[04:32] <cfhowlett> czfool: FYI Wubi is a TESTING platform, not a long-term installation solution.  So sayeth wubi developers.  Instal a regular dual boot system, virtual box or vmware are other options.
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !dualbootczfool:
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|czfool:
[04:33] <almoxarife> czfool: explain what happens during boot
[04:34] <czfool> I think I figured out the problem, I didn't set up a partition for the ubuntu install
[04:34] <czfool> Based on what AtionParsnip just said
[04:34] <almoxarife> czfool: you would not with a wubi install
[04:34] <czfool> But if I try to boot using ubuntu I get a corrupted file error
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> czfool: if you are using wubi, you don't need a separate partition. It installt to a file in your NTFS
[04:35] <cfhowlett> czfool: did you checksum the ISO?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|czfool
[04:35] <czfool> Ok thanks I'll check that link out
[04:39] <almoxarife> czfool: a wubi install is at the mercy of ntfs corruption, you need to run ntfs chkdisk on the drive
[04:40] <cfhowlett> czfool: and if/when the ntfs gets scrambled in windows, so goes your ubuntu ...
[04:40]  * cfhowlett wubi ... *shudder*
[04:41]  * almoxarife ran a wubi-buntu for quite a while, it was not that worrisome, somewhat tricky, yes
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> its also a pain to fix if it falls over
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> compare to a regular install
[04:43]  * cfhowlett I installed ubuntu via wubi once.  ONCE ...
[04:44] <almoxarife> czfool: you want to create the boot-disk 'gparted' , you will need it sooner or later when you decide to free up space for an actual install of linux, gparted is a gui, it is somewhat simple to use, assuming you already have the basics down of partionining
[04:47] <almoxarife> part-te-chun-ning
[04:47] <woodchip> somebody get me a partition with a frickin laser beam attached to it's head
[05:01] <thesadmafioso> Hi
[05:02] <thesadmafioso> I have a little problem with a key being kind of stuck when my package manager updates
[05:02] <thesadmafioso> When I update, I get: W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: thekeyID
[05:03] <thesadmafioso> I have a feeling it came from a PPA that is no longer there, but I don't know how I would manually remove the key as it's not listed in gpg --list-keys
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: what is the key. I can give a command to add it
[05:05] <thesadmafioso> KeyID: 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[05:06] <thesadmafioso> I don't really want to add it, I just want to get rid of it.
[05:06] <thesadmafioso> Or at least view it wherever it is.
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[05:06] <thesadmafioso> Will I be able to view and then delete the key pair via gpg?
[05:07] <thesadmafioso> It seems that the keys downloaded for PPA's and repo's are stored somewhere else, and I really would like to know where that is and how I can look at them.
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: you can do that in software centre as far as I am aware, no need to export it really. JUst readd it in the same way if you need to later
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: if you add PPAs properly you don't get the error
[05:08] <thesadmafioso> Yeah, I think I goofed it. I only recently found out how to use PPA's.
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: it;s cool :)
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: if you use the command:  add-apt-repository ppa:something here, the PPA gets added and the key imported
[05:14] <blackshirt> hello
[05:15] <plant> hello i have a question i want to install ubuntu but i want to make sure i get the right iso. my laptop is a sony vaio vpcel
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> plant: what CPU does it have?
[05:15] <blackshirt> plant, core i7?
[05:15] <plant> wait
[05:16] <plant> amd e-450 apu with radeon(tm)
[05:17] <blackshirt> plant, i think that was 64 bit ...cmiiw
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> plant: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso   MD5sum=7ad57cadae955bd04019389d4b9c1dcb
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat/AMD-E%20Series%20E-450.html  yes
[05:17] <plant> i was downloading i 386
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> plant: how much RAM do you have?
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> plant: you can run 32bit OS on a 64bit CPU
[05:17] <plant> 4 gb
[05:17] <plant> yeah
[05:17] <blackshirt> actionparsnip, i don't have interest with it ... Thanks
[05:17] <plant> that
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> plant: You should be ok. the 64bit ISO will give a cleaner upgrade path
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: covering the bases
[05:18] <plant> ok
[05:18] <plant> does my ethernet would work?
[05:18] <plant> and stuff like that
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> plant: but the 32bit OS will run
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> plant: depends on the Ethernet chip used
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> plant: most work out of the box
[05:19] <plant> cool
[05:19] <needhelp1> does anyone know of a known issue with mounting and copying files from a digital camera via usb? I am using ubuntu 12.10 32 bit, have reinstalled twice, and keep getting thsi same issue. shotwell hangs up when trying to mount, and i cant copy the images as nothing ever copys.
[05:19] <plant> i want to be an ubuntu packager
[05:19] <thesadmafioso> S6, 0y 2eyb6ard 14st started act5ng c60*3ete3y n4ts
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: tried accesing it with nautilus?
[05:19] <needhelp1> yeah, same issue
[05:19] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip:
[05:20] <blackshirt> plant, greats :d
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: do you have a 'disk mode' on it, so it appears as a USB HDD?
[05:20] <Aaron> lol
[05:20] <Beef> hey i have a problem
[05:20] <Aaron> blackdex plant it's no longer with us
[05:20] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1048059   does this look like the issue
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: possibly. If you run:  sudo fdisk -l    do you see a partition the same size as the storage?
[05:21] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: in about 30 mins i can check, im doing another fresh install
[05:21] <Beef> i downloaded ubuntu and tried to install it and it said i was missing casper/vmlinuz so i went and read some stuff and it said to run a md5sum on it so i downloaded all that but now i cant find the hash info for the ubuntu download from the direct dl site
[05:21] <blackshirt> actionparsnip, thank huys, i don't see it, lol
[05:22] <blackshirt> guys
[05:22] <Beef> in order to compare it to what i have
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> Beef: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[05:22] <Beef> i did
[05:22] <Beef> it gave me a bunch of random numbers and letters
[05:22] <Beef> i was going to compare it to what the site says it should be
[05:22] <lapion> the is something seriously broken with suspending to ram on all hardware..
[05:22] <Beef> but i cannot find that info
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> Beef: and did they match the correct hashes?
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> !hashes
[05:24] <Beef> ok i just checked against the link provided and the hash information does match
[05:24] <Beef> but im still missing casper/vmlinuz
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> Beef: then the image is corrupted and needs redownloading
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> Beef: yes because the data you have has errors
[05:25] <Beef> ok im redownloading it as we speak, I'm not familiar with md5sum but I thought if the information matched it meant it was not corrupted?
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Beef: if you use torrents it helps you get a good image as the torrent protocol adds extra checks
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Beef: oh it DOES match
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> my bad, then the data is good
[05:25] <Beef> well the problem is i cant download any of that kind of stuff on this computer
[05:25] <Beef> well if the data is good then why am i missing casper/vmlinuz
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Beef: what kind of stuff?
[05:26] <Beef> azureus or bittorrent
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> Beef: are you using a CD or a USB to install with?
[05:26] <Beef> CD
[05:26] <blackshirt> beef, are you using old version ?
[05:26] <Beef> 12.10
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> Beef: did you burn the CD as slowly as yu could, and NOT with the WINdows inbuilt burner?
[05:26] <Beef> yes at 4x
[05:26] <blackshirt> maybe your cdrom
[05:26] <Beef> i burned it with imgbrn as the instruction suggested
[05:27] <blackshirt> or your bad cd media
[05:27] <lapion> any drm inhibitor ?
[05:28] <Beef> im not sure what that is
[05:28] <lapion> several systems will not boot of cdroms anymore..
[05:28] <Beef> im redownloading it now ill check hash info again before i burn
[05:28] <lapion> use dvd-discs
[05:28] <Beef> well mine does, i have recovery cds
[05:28] <Gerowen> What kind of tools are available for Ubuntu that would allow me to restore a failed EXT4 partition?  I've tried using testdisk and it fails to repair the partition table every time.
[05:28] <Beef> i burned the file to a dvd disk
[05:28] <ezio> anyone know why gcc -lm isn't linking math
[05:28] <Beef> the computer is about 6 years old
[05:29] <Beef> AMDathlon 440
[05:29] <Beef> 4400
[05:29] <blackshirt> beef, with brasero?
[05:29] <Beef> not sure what brasero is
[05:29] <lapion> Gerowen, if fsck does not work it's lost, all you can do is use photorec to recover files but all you get is bunch of numbered files
[05:29] <ezio> nm
[05:29] <kushal_kumaran> ezio: what is the error message you're getting?
[05:30] <Gerowen> lapion: I can work with numbered files as long as they're complete, I really don't feel like digging out all my DVDs and re-making all those ISO backups again, :p
[05:30] <Beef> it just says missing casper/vmlinuz
[05:31] <blackshirt> beef, i think your hardware was too old to load 12.10..how big your ram'size?
[05:32] <Beef> i believe 4 gig but atleast 2 gig
[05:32] <Beef> ive added some, just dont remember how much
[05:33] <Beef> it was the 64 bit version
[05:33] <blackshirt> hemm,thats big enough to run
[05:33] <Beef> if that helps
[05:33] <KsM> uh
[05:33] <KsM> pretty sure 2gb can run 12.10
[05:33] <Beef> i have an amd athlon 64 4400+
[05:33] <KsM> and that does not sound like a ram problem
[05:33] <lapion> Gerowen, how did you lose the sf in the first place ?
[05:33] <blackshirt> beef, have you try alternate version ?
[05:34] <Beef> the 32 bit version?
[05:34] <Beef> no i havent
[05:34] <blackshirt> Beef, casper/vmlinuz was kernel inside casper live system
[05:34] <Gerowen> lapion: Not sure, I moved from Washington state back home to Kentucky, packed up my external and when I hooked it up once I got home the file system said "Unknown".  All the SMART data is read properly and says the disc is healthy, just no data.
[05:34] <Beef> yeah i read it was a kernal just dont know why it would be missing
[05:34] <Gerowen> I had it in the back seat of my car for about 3,000 miles but didn't have any particularly strong magnets or anything that I can think of.
[05:35] <blackshirt> I think, system fail to load the kernel
[05:35] <lapion> Gerowen, are you sure you did not pack a magnet next to your hdd ?
[05:35] <blackshirt> beef, alternate 64 bit version
[05:35] <Beef> no i havent seen an alternate 64 bit version
[05:36] <Beef> would there be any different between running the 32 and 64 versions in this instance?
[05:36] <somsip> Gerowen: car speakers?
[05:36] <Beef> the only reason I chose 64 bit was for a program i have that id like to play around with
[05:36] <Gerowen> I had some magnetic CB radio antenna bases under the seat that it may have gotten close to, but honestly by the time I got it all in the house I could remember where I'd packed everything.  I never gave it any thought because I'd always been told modern hard drives were shielded from stuff like that.
[05:36] <Beef> but im not even sure it would work on ubuntu anyways
[05:36] <Gerowen> couldn't remember*
[05:36] <lapion> Gerowen, gparted also says the partition is unknown ? Or only windows says so ?
[05:36] <blackshirt> beef, thats use text installer, instead ubiquity installer used live ubuntu
[05:37] <Beef> not following
[05:37] <lapion> Gerowen, shielded up to a certain amount of gauss
[05:37] <Gerowen> Don't have any Windows machines, it was the "disks" utility (palimpsest)
[05:38] <Gerowen> I guess 3 or 4 magnetic antenna bases could have been too much magnetism if I wasn't paying attention and laid it down close to them.
[05:39] <lapion> Gerowen, I always carry hdd's on my body.
[05:39] <lapion> either in a briefcase in the hand or in a jacket, taking great care whenever having it on me..
[05:39] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: sudo fdisk -l does not show the camera
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> lapion: i use network storage via my sftp server. bit easier
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: is there a disk mode option on the device?
[05:40] <needhelp1> not to my knowledge
[05:40] <Gerowen> lapion: Yeah, I put too much confidence in the hard drive, I mean none of the data is irreplaceable, it was primarily a "backup", so it's not the end of the world, just mildly inconvenient to have to rebuild it.
[05:40] <needhelp1> its a cannon g9
[05:41] <dsprc> Gerowen: have a machine next to a set of 4, 12" speakers that'll warp a tv from 10' away and never had any problems with it
[05:42] <lapion> Gerowen, did you move yourself or did you use a mover ?
[05:42] <Gerowen> dsprc: I remember that was one of the most annoying things with the older televisions when I was young.  Somebody get too close with a magnet to the tv you play video games on, and all of a sudden you're using another magnet to try and pull the color distortion out to one corner and get rid of it, lol.
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/46693
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: I'd look through the options, see if it can be switched to a disk
[05:42] <Gerowen> lapion: Moved myself, the movers took some things, but I piled all my guns and electronics in the back of my Ford Explorer because I didn't trust movers not to try and steal it.
[05:43] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: in all prior versions of ubuntu i have had no trouble with this device, the sd card mounts and works like normal.
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=879744
[05:45] <lapion> Gerowen, you will need a hdd approximately as big as the lost partition, and use photorec to get files form it, however you will get no directories or any of the kind back..
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> Gerowen: I'd look into a backup solution you can store separate, then you'd be ok
[05:46] <lapion> Gerowen, all you'll are files with a odd number with albeit not always correct extensions.
[05:46] <lapion> +get
[05:46] <lapion> *an
[05:48] <KsM> hm
[05:48] <KsM> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/installation-guide/amd64/minimum-hardware-reqts.html
[05:48] <lapion> Gerowen, remember you are sure to get a lot of files you have delted in the past and such..
[05:48] <KsM> 64mb ram minimum for desktop use with 12.10..?
[05:48] <KsM> I have a bit of trouble believing this
[05:48] <Gerowen> lapion: K thanks, just so happens my desktop has internal hard drive space big enough to house all the files, :-)
[05:49] <cfhowlett> KsM: wrong
[05:49] <lapion> Gerowen, you never know your significant other might even find that porn shoot you did in her absence you thought you delted..
[05:49]  * cfhowlett ???
[05:49] <KsM> cfhowlett: I'm wrong or the page is?
[05:49] <Gerowen> :P
[05:49] <cfhowlett> KsM: trying to find the tech specs page now...
[05:49] <dsprc> lapion: maybe that is why he put all those magnets down there. trying to dispose of the evidence XD
[05:50] <KsM> cfhowlett: well that's the "Official documentation" and it's the first result to come up when searching ubuntu.com
[05:50] <lapion> dsprc, significant other is delayed so needs something to watch....
[05:52] <InFlames> help, lightdm won't start with "sudo service lightdm start" it just hangs, does it normally take many minutes?
[05:52] <dsprc> InFlames: should only be a couple of seconds at the most
[05:53] <KsM> InFlames: try restart instead of start, possibly
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: how about if you log in at CLI, then run:  startx
[06:00] <InFlames> ActionParsnip: it says "no screens found"
[06:03] <qwe>  Hi people. Why I have duplicated volumes on my desktop? xubuntu 12.10
[06:04] <Gerowen> lapion: So as it turns out the disk is bad, I manually ran a self test with the Ubuntu "disks" utility, and it failed the short self test.  I'm trying to reformat it and make a new partition now, but it's taking a while, looks like the whole drive is toast, oh well.
[06:05] <aeon-ltd> qwe: is one a shortcut?
[06:05] <qwe> No, I even can't delete it
[06:05] <lapion> Gerowen, get an RMA
[06:05] <lapion> Gerowen, how old is the hdd ?
[06:06] <qwe> Known issues
[06:06] <qwe> The messaging indicator is not available for 12.10
[06:06] <qwe> Duplicated partitions might be shown at Thunar sidebar and the desktop
[06:06] <qwe> Oh, they posted that bug. Hope it will be fixed
[06:07] <Gerowen> 2-3 years
[06:08] <lapion> warranty should be at least 3 years if not 5 years..
[06:08] <Gerowen> i'll call wd then and see what they can do, i never even thought about that
[06:09] <lapion> just go to website and do a serial number check to see if the hdd is still within warranty, allways double check those check manually by looking into warranty policies
[06:10] <InFlames> looks like startx errored
[06:11] <Gerowen> warranty expired
[06:13] <InFlames> ActionParsnip: any ideas?
[06:15] <ak5> I am getting "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional
[06:16] <ak5> when I log into my ubuntu server and do man <something>
[06:16] <ak5> any ideas?
[06:16] <ak5> less, too
[06:17] <janat> hows performance of ubuntu 12.10 with amd's new platform mainly a10
[06:17] <jason1> .
[06:17] <janat> trinity it's called i think
[06:18] <aeon-ltd> janat: that's kinda obscure.
[06:18] <aeon-ltd> imagine a8 but better :)
[06:19] <janat> so nothing wrong?
[06:19] <zem> Hello all.
[06:19] <janat> i read complaints about 12.04 not supporting it
[06:19] <aeon-ltd> janat: oh, i've no idea
[06:19] <aeon-ltd> i wouldn't trust me
[06:20] <cfhowlett> zem: greetings
[06:21] <zem> new to linux.  I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 on old PC
[06:21] <zem> All seems well...but I'm getting an error window since upgrading to 12.10
[06:22] <zem> "System Program problem detected"
[06:22] <cairne> Zen: does it give the bug info
[06:23] <zem> ExecutablePath    /usr/share/apportcheckresume
[06:23] <zem> Q: how do I repair internal errors?
[06:25] <Gangnam_sty1e> someone seen travelling matt?
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> zem: report the error and it will help the devs
[06:26] <zem> Thanks. Have done.  But do I need to worry about this? It keeps repeating.
[06:26] <zem> (Thanks Parsnip)
[06:26] <lotrpy> hello, I installed 10 ubuntu 12.04 virturl machines, now I want to update them all, install some package, deploy some app, and run them all, what should I use? I prefer python style
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> zem: each login, or in teh same login?
[06:26] <Beef> ok i got ubuntu loaded but now i have a major problem
[06:27] <Beef> i think it fried my video card
[06:27] <zem> even after each log in.
[06:28] <Beef> my screen started looking like some sweater bill cosby would wear and there was a burning smell
[06:28] <ms_choudhary_200> I installed screenlet, launched some screenlets. Next time I logged in, I had to again manually launch each screenlet. Is there a way to load them on startup. There is an entry of screenlets manager in startup applications.
[06:28] <Beef> i turned the comp off
[06:29] <urlwolf> should /usr/local/bin be owned by root?
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> urlwolf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1336681/
[06:30] <InFlames> can anyone tell me why startx is erroring?
[06:30] <StormTwo> PUT ALL YOUR GLANS INTO MY VULVA GUYS!
[06:30] <ms_choudhary_200> lotrpy, Download packages on one of the machine, then copy those downloaded packages to other machines and install.
[06:31] <zem> what say you, Parsnip?   Is there a system repair one needs to do?
[06:31] <zem> Or just let it go?
[06:31] <FAPFAPFAP> II like to fap!
[06:31] <FAPFAPFAP> I wanna rape you all
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> !ops
[06:32] <FAPFAPFAP> fapfapfap
[06:33] <StormTwo> hi
[06:33] <Blaze> herbie
[06:33] <lotrpy> ms_choudhary_200 ,... isn't is the last resort, if we can't deploy it automaticly?
[06:33] <linux> hgfh
[06:33] <linux> china
[06:37] <urlwolf> ActionParsnip: thanks
[06:38] <urlwolf> ActionParsnip: I don't understand though. Files there need to be executed by normal users
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> urlwolf: things can be owneed by users, but still get access by others
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> urlwolf: thats what the last octet of acces is for
[06:39] <urlwolf> I see some files do not have it set
[06:39] <urlwolf> that was the problem
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> urlwolf: the commands in /usr/bin are also owned by root:root but anyone on the system that is not root has read and access rights
[06:43] <Jon--> The keyboard shortcuts that let you set up a shortcut for switching to workspace X only go up to four, despite increasing my number of workspaces to 7. This is with gnome-session-fallback. Where is this setting in dconf-editor so I may fix this without needing to use some sort of third-party keyboard shortcuts app? (I like GNOME's, actually). I have restarted GNOME, still not showing.
[06:44] <Jon--> Or alternatively, the CLI foo that GNOME uses to actually do this, and I'll just make a custom shortcut ;).
[06:45] <vininim> Quick question: why the default lvm2 instal doesn't separate / from /home?
[06:46] <vininim> (qq 12.10)
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> vininim: because the installer doesn't know how many apps are going to be installed or the use of the OS
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> vininim: so you cannot possibly guess the percentage split
[06:47] <urlwolf> ActionParsnip: sudo pip install puts exec files in /usr/local/bin but doesn't give permission to normal users. Why?
[06:48] <vininim> yeah, but a default ubuntu desktop can have some sane default values.
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> urlwolf: maybe it's a bug, never had to use pip
[06:56] <vininim> ;script load notify.pl
[06:56] <vininim> ...
[06:58] <MrBushido> are there any solutions to the ubuntu 12.10 and amd/fglrx = empty desktop (no menus/etc) issue? i have an amd 5850 so it should work with the driver (i.e. not abandoned to legacy support like the 4000 and earlier series).
[06:59] <rodayo> I'm using "diff -qr" to find the difference between two directories. I'm finding that it's taking really long, does it actually compare the contents of the files?
[07:01] <tsimpson> rodayo: yes, diff compares the contents of files
[07:01] <Flynsarmy> On windows when my laptop overheats it slows the CPU. on linux when it overheats it just cuts power without warning. any way i can stop that?
[07:01] <sandy_> hi
[07:01] <sandy_> I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04
[07:01] <Thor> How can I get bash_completion to work with ssh? It used to work, but now ubuntu uses hashed known_hosts file, so as far as I can see, bash_completion haven't been updated to work with the new known_hosts format
[07:01] <sandy_> I am unable to login into it
[07:01] <rodayo> tsimpson, that explains it...is there another utility that's better equipped for what I want to do?
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> sandy_: what happens when you try? Ar eyu using the right password?
[07:01] <sandy_> purple screen keeps on loading
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> sandy_: what GPU do you use?
[07:01] <cyberflyz> hello :)
[07:01] <sandy_> I don't get login screen
[07:02] <sandy_> what is GPU?
[07:03] <cyberflyz> can i know why my vps shows the wrong time?
[07:03] <tsimpson> rodayo: probably, but you could just do "find dir_1 > 1; find dir_2 > 2" then just "diff 1 2"
[07:05] <sandy_> please help me !!!
[07:05] <MrBushido> if you turn your monitor off you could have a black screen instead
[07:05] <dsprc> sandy_: the gpu is your graphics card
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> sandy_: video chip
[07:08] <rodayo> tsimpson, yep that sounds like what i want...will probably need to write a script that copies over the files that don't exist
[07:08] <rodayo> thanks =)
[07:09] <sandy_> command lspci says :VGA compatible controller :intel Corporation MObile 4 Series chipset integreted graphics controller
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> sandy_: add the boot option:  nomodeset
[07:12] <sandy_> done
[07:12] <sandy_> but with no fruits
[07:17] <pero_p> hi all
[07:18] <rawfodog> I have a 100 gig drive, it is encrypted, disk analyzer says I only have 30 gigs free. is this because of encryption ?
[07:19] <pero_p> i want to make an ISO Image from my current updated ubuntu, how can i  do this?
[07:20] <pero_p> i want to make an ISO Image from my current updated ubuntu, how can i  do this?
[07:20] <rawfodog> pero_p, google it dummy
[07:21] <vininim> rawfodog: you need to know the partition scheme of your hd and the lvm2 volumes.
[07:21] <vininim> rawfodog: it's possible that you have a 70gb lvm2 volume that is encrypted and not mounted
[07:21] <superfake123> how can I stop /usr/sbin/bluetoothd from starting ?
[07:22] <Black_ice> hi
[07:23] <dsprc> superfake123: update-rc.d
[07:24] <dsprc> dont use the "remove
[07:24] <superfake123> dsprc, I don't know what that means D:
[07:24] <dsprc> option because after you update it will just be reset and start again
[07:27] <Mister> ciao
[07:27] <Mister> !List
[07:28] <superfake123> should I not just do sudo rm /etc/init.d/bluetooth
[07:28] <dsprc> superfake123: not to be the person that says "rtfm" but the update-rc.d manual has some easy to follow and understand examples near the bottom.
[07:28] <dsprc> superfake123: no. do not rm them
[07:28] <superfake123> ahh its a command ok ty
[07:30] <dsprc> superfake123: even if you rm'd it, next time you update the packages it will just regenerate its scripts again
[07:32] <rfmonk> !ubottu silc
[07:32] <superfake123> ok when I try to disable i get a warning System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/bluetooth do not exist.
[07:32] <rfmonk> !silc
[07:34] <dhruvasagar> Hey guys, I use :grep/:lgrep every day, is it possible somehow for me to use :grep, but get only list of files which have the matching pattern instead of have the list of all occurrances of patterns ? I tried using :grep -l, but then the quickfix / location window navigation breaks, any suggestions ?
[07:37] <dsprc> superfake123: try 'ls /etc/init.d | grep blue' ... think it might be 'bluez' you have to stop
[07:37] <superfake123> it prints bluetooth
[07:40] <dhruvasagar> btw, just so if anybody needs, you can achieve what I was asking by ':grep -r -m 1 <pattern> <files>'
[07:40] <Inoki> Yo lads. If I ignore kernel updates does that mean I'm less protected? Coz from what I understood kernel updates like "linux-kernel-image-generic" and so on are to fix problematic hardware no?
[07:40] <corm> dhruvasagar: thanks
[07:42] <dhruvasagar> corm: cool
[07:43] <pero_p> rawfodog, tnx, but i found nothing completely suit my need
[07:43] <dhruvasagar> corm: I just realized I posted this q in wrong forum :)
[07:44] <pero_p> rawfodog, before, i had Mint13 and there was an app doing this, i never used it but i see it in menus,, i can't remember it's name
[07:45] <dsprc> superfake123: try 'sudo update-rc.d -f bluetooth disable'
[07:55] <varikonniemi> hello, i installed the 3.6.3 kernel and now ubuntu wants to "upgrade " to some 3.5.x, how do i prevent this?
[07:56] <varikonniemi> pinning via synaptics is one thing i remember, would it work for this problem?
[07:56] <Rootbrian> it would
[07:56] <Rootbrian> I think it would.
[07:56] <dsprc> varikonniemi: it _should_
[07:56] <varikonniemi> but the kernel is compiled, not from a source ppa, does it matter?
[07:57] <Rootbrian> @vari as long as it doesn't prevent you from using the system, and the ppa is fine, it should be okay
[07:58] <Rootbrian> @vari did you compile it yourself?
[07:58] <superfake123> varikonniemi, how did you install 3.6.3 ?
[07:58] <superfake123> oh nm
[07:59] <dsprc> just keep a spare laying around incase something breaks
[07:59] <superfake123> what is easiest way to install 3.6.3 ?
[08:01] <phiscribe> tell your robot to do it
[08:01] <lhavelund> phiscribe: That's neither helpful, nor funny. Please abstain.
[08:02] <phiscribe> you need a vacation
[08:03] <varikonniemi> superfake123, http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/install-linux-kernel-363-in-ubuntu.html
[08:04] <Rootbrian> some people aren't helpful at all. /facepalm he left, good.
[08:05] <varikonniemi> http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/11/install-linux-kernel-366-in-ubuntu.html i think 3.6.6 is the latest
[08:05] <superfake123> wooo ty!
[08:06] <varikonniemi> np
[08:07] <brady> when i sudo apt-get install foremost , i get E: Unable to locate package foremost ,  any ideas?
[08:07] <brady> i suspect this may have something to do with software sources?
[08:07] <iceroot> brady: because a package with that name does not exist in the repos you have enabled
[08:07] <Guest27656> hey
[08:08] <Rootbrian> brady: did you search synaptic or ubuntu software centre?
[08:08] <iceroot> !info foremost
[08:08] <iceroot> brady: its in the universe repo. are you using ubuntu or something different? because universe is enabled by defaultr
[08:08] <Guest27656> just joined
[08:09] <Guest27656> im studying for my LPI exam, any tips O_o
[08:10] <iceroot> Guest27656: this is the ubuntu support channel not the lpi learning channel :)
[08:11] <magic_al> can someone tell me how to add folders to the left side in the folder structure? there are folders like "Downloads", "Pictures"..... and so on. can i add others manually?
[08:13] <mikael_> how do i specify several regexps to find? "find . -name "*.c" "*.h"
[08:15] <brady> iceroot:  yes how can i find out what repos i need to add in order to make it functional?
[08:16] <iceroot> brady: the universe repo
[08:16] <brady> would that by default be in the software sources list?
[08:16] <iceroot> brady: you can find out by searching packages.ubuntu.com for example which will search all official ubuntu repos
[08:16] <iceroot> brady: yes
[08:16] <brady> yay thanks
[08:17] <iceroot> brady: could you paste the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"?
[08:17] <iceroot> !paste | brady
[08:17] <superfake123> ok something is very wrong lol
[08:18] <superfake123> I installed 3.6.6 kernel and now it looks like cinnamon isn't loading
[08:18] <iceroot> superfake123: both not supported here
[08:18] <superfake123> and it looks like my gfx driver is not installed i have a 2 inch thick black border
[08:19] <iceroot> superfake123: we support ubuntu with the default kernel and the default desktops
[08:19] <superfake123> ohhhh
[08:19] <iceroot> superfake123: you are using ubuntu? or are you using mint (or something else)?
[08:19] <rawler_> hiya.. strange problem.. today when booting my laptop, the secondary HDMI display-port just wasn't detected anymore by Kubuntu..
[08:19] <iceroot> superfake123: and why need linux 3.6?
[08:19] <superfake123> yes ubuntu, but I installed cinnamon
[08:19] <rawler_> worked yesterday, so looked through the updates.. colord was the only reasonable suspect, but after reverting it, the problem still remains.. any ideas?
[08:19] <superfake123> i prefer cinnamon over unity :\
[08:20] <iceroot> superfake123: and why linux 3.6?
[08:20] <rawler_> xrandr -q only shows the internal screen and the VGA port..
[08:20] <iceroot> superfake123: sounds like the video driver is failing because of that
[08:20] <superfake123> because it is the latest? I dono. well I switchd back to 3.5.0.18 and it's still doing the same thing
[08:21] <iceroot> superfake123: "because its the latest" is a bad answer for a kernel upgrade
[08:21] <superfake123> ok I'm sorry I'll never try to upgrade the kernel again :(
[08:21] <brady> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1336819/
[08:21] <brady> there you go iceroot
[08:22] <Inoki> Is there someone who could help me understand kernel updates a bit better?
[08:22] <iceroot> brady: sudo apt-get update
[08:23] <brady> well.. i am on a live usb stick.. im not looking to update too much
[08:23] <iceroot> superfake123: its just not a good idea to install a newer kernel when there is no need because the packages for an ubuntu release normally are only testes for the delivered kernel, you may face problems with additional software like video drivers and so on because they are build for the releases kernel
[08:23] <iceroot> brady: sudo apt-get update   to update your sources
[08:23] <brady> ahhhh
[08:23] <iceroot> brady: it will not install new programs
[08:24] <brady> k cool , just thought i would make sure
[08:24] <iceroot> brady: its always good to ask to be sure
[08:24] <iceroot> brady: so no problem
[08:24] <Inoki> I think Iceroot answered my question by answering that of superfake's.
[08:24] <iceroot> brady: with that command your system will read all the package names which are in the repos you have enabled
[08:25] <iceroot> Inoki: fine :)
[08:25] <brady> yeah, i found multiverse and enabled it previous to sudo apt-get update
[08:25] <Inoki> iceroot: Coz I had a dilemma whether to install the newer kernel or not while everything works perfect on my system.
[08:26] <iceroot> Inoki: never touch a running system
[08:26] <Inoki> iceroot: You're the man! That's what I needed to hear.
[08:27] <Inoki> iceroot: Coz I always had problems after installing even a tiny kernel update.
[08:27] <Inoki> Just to get this one right, kernel and security updates are not the same right? I understand kernel updates as those fixing hardware issues. But if everything works 100%, no need.
[08:28] <iceroot> Inoki: just install the security updates e.g. with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  or wait for the popup window which will inform you about new security updates
[08:28] <iceroot> Inoki: both are updates, we are talking about security updates when only the bug itself is fixed, so you will have kernel 3.2.0-18 instead of -17. a kernel upgrade is when you switch from 3.2 to 3.5
[08:29] <iceroot> Inoki: within an ubuntu release you will ONLY get security updates and no major updates for all software packages (there are a few packages where you will get new major versions like firefox, thunderbird and libreoffice)
[08:30] <Inoki> iceroot: This is the thing. I often got problems even after migrating from e.g. 3.2.0-23 to 3.2.0-35 (just examples).
[08:31] <Inoki> iceroot: also, I was told a while back, that sudo apt-get upgrade installs software and security updates while dist-upgrade a major release kernel included.
[08:32] <iceroot> Inoki: not correct
[08:32] <iceroot> Inoki: the difference from upgrade and dist-upgrade:
[08:33] <iceroot> Inoki: upgrade will upgrade packages itself to the newest version from the repo. because of the fact that we only put security fixes in the repo and apt-get upgrade will for example upgrade package-1.2-4 to 1.2-5
[08:33] <iceroot> Inoki: the kernel will not be upgraded with "apt-get upgrade"
[08:33] <Guest27656> iceroot , correct
[08:33] <iceroot> Inoki: apt-get upgrade will only upgrade a package itself not the dependencies
[08:33] <Guest27656> dist will upgrade the kernel
[08:34] <Guest27656> i think thats the makor diff
[08:34] <iceroot> Inoki: you have the metapackage linux-image-generic and that has a dependency to linux-image-3.2-0-18
[08:35] <iceroot> Inoki: when there is a new kernel-update the metapackage will be updated to point to 3.2-0-19 AND the system needs to install a NEW package, linux-image-3.2-0-19
[08:35] <iceroot> Inoki: dist-upgrade will update packages when they will pull different dependencies too
[08:35] <iceroot> Inoki: apt-get upgrade will NOT update packages when another package will be changed too
[08:36] <Inoki> iceroot: You have no idea how thankful I am for all this vital info.
[08:36] <iceroot> Inoki: and because of that apt-get upgrade will NOT update the kernel. .) for a less confusing explanation have a look at "man apt-get"
[08:36] <c0ff33> can't burn 4.5 GB of data on a DVD k3b say capacity exceeded by 139 Mib please help
[08:37] <Inoki> iceroot: My concern is moving from 3.5.0-17 to *-18, since on *-17 everything works 100% and my previous experiences tell me not to upgrade, since I always had issues with it. I know it saves previous configuration, but often reverting to a previous config didn't help or I wasn't even able to revert, coz I didn't even get to grub.
[08:37] <c0ff33> any link please
[08:37] <veryape> c0ff33: really easy, it's too much data for your dvd-r, you need a dual layer dvd
[08:37] <gtech> I'm using xmodmap to change my capslock key to left-ctrl, when I press capslock xev reads that I hit left-ctrl, but all windows respond as if capslock was pressed, what gives?
[08:38] <iceroot> Inoki: i strongly recommend to update the kernel to the newest security release
[08:38] <iceroot> Inoki: and normally nothing should break with that step
[08:40] <Inoki> iceroot: Ufff.... still a bit worried. But if you say so.... What I did was installing just security updates, leaving the *-18 alone.
[08:40] <c0ff33> veryape: did't get you do you mind some clarification please ?
[08:41] <InFlames> i'm having a weird problem installing dropbox, seems like the "restart dropbox" button is working, but dropbox isn't moving to the next step, also doing "nautilus --quit" didn't advanced it either
[08:41] <InFlames> might have to ask on the forums
[08:42] <dsprc> when i install grub is it going to add the other OSes i have configured with lilo or am i gonna have to do that manually?
[08:42] <gtech> InFlames: run dropbox status from the terminal
[08:43] <InFlames> "isn't running"
[08:43] <AlanBell> GabrieleV: bug 1041137
[08:43] <gtech> InFlames: run dropbox start
[08:44] <InFlames> ok, that started it
[08:44] <gtech> I'm using xmodmap to change my capslock key to left-ctrl, when I press capslock xev reads that I hit left-ctrl, but all windows respond as if capslock was pressed, what gives? I just upgraded to precise.
[08:44] <InFlames> gtech: but the restart nautilus button still doesn't work
[08:45] <InFlames> gtech: my whole issue lies in the fact when i close the install window and run dropbox from the launcher it says "dropbox is running in an unsupported location"
[08:46] <gtech> InFlames: I don't know, but it sounds like your dropbox folder was specified in an area without propper permissions
[08:46] <InFlames> odd, i installed it from ubuntu's software center
[08:46] <veryape> c0ff33: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R_DL ... that is what you need since you can't fit the data on a regular dvd-r
[08:47] <gtech> InFlames: I could be completely wrong
[08:47] <gtech> InFlames: you could try installing from the deb file downloaded from dropbox.com
[08:47] <InFlames> i did that too, but then there was no launcher daemon
[08:48] <InFlames> frustrating thing is this worked only a few weeks ago, same process, different machine
[08:48] <gtech> download it then run dpkg -i on it
[08:49] <gtech> InFlames: also it sounds like Gnome or X is having some issues, I'm not sure how to debug that though
[08:50] <gtech> I'm using xmodmap to change my capslock key to left-ctrl, when I press capslock xev reads that I hit left-ctrl, but all windows respond as if capslock was pressed, what gives? I just upgraded to precise.
[08:50] <InFlames> i will wait until tomorrow, right now it seems to be working atleast well enough
[08:51] <somsip> gtech: what are 'all windows' (because java and others ignore xmodmap) and paste your .Xmodpmap
[08:51] <c0ff33> veryape: checking it out, thankyou very much!
[08:51] <gtech> somsip: everything, even the keyboard caps light turns on
[08:52] <gtech> somsip: gnome terminal, eclipse, firefox, thunderbierd
[08:52] <somsip> gtech: you won't get it in eclipse. Paste your .Xmodmap and how are you running xmodmap?
[08:53] <gtech> somsip: via config/awesome/rc.lua
[08:53] <somsip> gtech: post the line....
[08:54] <gtech> http://pastie.org/5194259
[08:55] <gordonjcp> urgh, awesomewm
[08:55] <gordonjcp> bloody nerds
[08:55] <somsip> gordonjcp: oh behave ;)
[08:55] <gordonjcp> :-p
[08:56] <gordonjcp> I was actually looking at it the other day for a WM for an embedded device
[08:56] <somsip> gtech: you override every key in .Xmodmap? And what does your rc.lua look like *just for xmodmap* not the whole thing
[08:56] <gordonjcp> it's a  bit too heavy and bloaty though
[08:56] <somsip> gordonjcp: I love it, but I accept it's not for everyone
[08:56] <gordonjcp> somsip: yeah, as a desktop WM it's just annoying, at least for me
[08:57] <gordonjcp> out of the box it seems to be set up to do everything in tiny dark-grey-on-dark-grey pixelly fonts
[08:57] <gtech> somsip: funny enough I can't find it...
[08:57] <somsip> gordonjcp: you use anything "out of the box" without fiddling? :)
[08:58] <somsip> gtech: FYI, mine is simply http://pastie.org/5194277
[08:58] <gtech> somsip: nevertheless, when I run xmodmap .Xmodmap nothing changes
[08:59] <somsip> gtech: how about just "xmodmap -e 'keycode 66 = Control_L'"
[08:59] <somsip> gtech: assuming 66 is the right one...
[09:00] <gordonjcp> somsip: true
[09:00] <gordonjcp> somsip: I turn off global menus in Unity because they annoy me
[09:01] <gordonjcp> somsip: I'm just not that into "customising"
[09:01] <somsip> gordonjcp: I gave unity a couple of weeks, and looked for others. Awesome was my choice. Each to their own. OT
[09:01] <gtech> somsip: yes that is the right key as verified by xev, no it doesn't work
[09:03] <somsip> gtech: helpful? http://askubuntu.com/questions/93950/cant-remap-ctrl-key-with-xmodmap
[09:04] <somsip> gtech: like, the clear and add bits?
[09:05] <palasso> I have accidentally overwritten a file. Is there a way to recover it? I haven't restarted my computer yet. Is it possible to find it somehow in RAM?
[09:05] <somsip> gtech: the Add control bit seems to be used in a few .Xmodmaps I've seen, eg: http://efod.se/writings/linuxbook/html/caps-lock-to-ctrl.html
[09:05] <somsip> *add Control
[09:08] <pauser> hi, my wireless is connected over usb and its slowing down the other usb ports , especially my mouse. is there any way that i can fix it ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1336872/
[09:09] <auronandace> palasso: what file did you overwrite?
[09:09] <palasso> It was an sqlite database file. I executed an SQL command and then I accidentally saved the command to the file instead the new sqlite file.
[09:11] <auronandace> palasso: hmm, i know almost nothing about sql, would anything be stored under /tmp/ ?
[09:11] <gtech> somsip: I recieve this error http://pastie.org/5194324
[09:12] <palasso> No.
[09:12] <somsip> gtech: that means nothing to me. But I keep finding very simple examples of doing what you want: http://www.paganini.net/index.cgi/linux/nocaps.html
[09:12] <palasso> Is there a way to find the file from the RAM? It should be still there...
[09:13] <gtech> somsip: looks like I have to patch xorg-server to use xmodmap
[09:13] <pauser> palasso: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com.ar/2011/04/how-to-read-content-from-ram-random.html
[09:14] <somsip> gtech: really? Sounds horribly complicated...
[09:14] <gtech> somsip: apparently it's already been created, so I might be in luck, just in case I'm going to try xkb though
[09:14] <somsip> gtech: ok. gluck
[09:15] <gtech> somsip: cheers
[09:16] <pauser> could you please help me with my wireless/usb problem . i really dont know how to fix it
[09:16] <somsip> pauser: and this, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremostscalpel-in-ubuntu.html#more-615
[09:16] <n1> hi. need to install an older version of thunderbird. the directoriy doesn't have ./configure file inside. when in terminal, command make does nothing.
[09:17] <pauser> somsip: i did not delete any thing, it was the update that made the problem with my wirelesss
[09:19] <auronandace> n1: why do you need an older version of thunderbird?
[09:20] <n1> auronandance need it for an addon that runs only on that version (bluetooth related)
[09:28] <khussein78> I need to open JNLP file with java webstart but this application is not listen in application when choose other applications, how I can add custom command to open with list
[09:28] <khussein78> is not listed, sorry
[09:32] <chalcedony> how can i get a ubuntu system to see it's hard drives?
[09:32] <somsip> chalcedony: sudo fdisk -l ?
[09:33] <chalcedony> somsip, thanks
[09:33] <batee> Hello, does anyone know about applying seccomp filter rules to a newly spawning process through exec(). Further application of filter should be only  for newly spawned process.
[09:34] <nyRednek> chalcedony: you're on freenode now?
[09:34] <chalcedony> nyRednek, never left
[09:34] <nyRednek> chalcedony: ok, are you in OT?
[09:35] <magdalena_> screen tearing with intel gpu: is there a workaround like this ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/73909/screen-tearing-in-11-10-with-intel-graphics ) for xfce without compiz?
[09:36] <mgedmin> help! my locale is all effed-up and I've no clue why
[09:36] <vooze> Need some help with sound-lags when playing music: http://askubuntu.com/questions/213553/small-lags-when-playing-music-ubuntu-12-10
[09:36] <chalcedony> computer is refusing my putty/ssh connection
[09:36] <mgedmin> I log in, see the user interface in English (despite having selected Lithuanian), open a terminal, type 'locale', see a (translated into LT) error about LC_ALL being wrong (shown in broken UTF-8)
[09:37] <mgedmin> see various interesting bits like LC_NUMERIC=es_ES:zh_CN:lt:en
[09:37] <mgedmin> where do Spanish and Chinese even come from?
[09:37] <mgedmin> not mentioned in any file in /etc, or in any key shown in gsettings list-recursively or gconftool-2 -R /
[09:37] <mgedmin> all the GUI tools show only Lithuanian
[09:38] <mgedmin> the only two languages checked in language support are lt and en
[09:38] <mgedmin> everything worked fine yesterday; I had to reboot today (because X froze or something) and now this
[09:38] <chalcedony> it's saying connection denied, not asking for a password
[09:38] <mgedmin> the same madness happens in unity as well as in gnome-shell sessions
[09:38] <mgedmin> what component is responsible for specifying the locale?
[09:39] <llutz> chalcedony: does it say "connection refused" or "denied"? what's the exact error you get?
[09:39] <spydon> How do I set ubuntu's sound output to be mono(not stereo)?
[09:40] <n3wb331337> Hello guys can someone pleas tell me how i become a good it-technician?
[09:40] <llutz> !ot | n3wb331337
[09:40] <mgedmin> hm, the same locale brokenness happens if I log into /dev/tty1
[09:41] <batee> ubottu, Is there a separate channel to ask question on ubuntu related development like using seccomp filtering facility etc.
[09:42] <batee> Hello all, Is there a separate channel to ask question on ubuntu related development like using seccomp filtering facility etc.
[09:42] <lhavelund> !channels > batee
[09:43] <n3wb331337> its even about ubuntu so its some more information you need to have to understand me... im already it-technician trainee but my chefs are like "we dont care about you as long as you get the trash out" and i dont knowe what to do so i asked someone for something to learn... i got a ubuntu 12.04 cd and dont knowe what i can do with it so its impossible to find information about a topic i dont even knowe
[09:44] <llutz> !manual | n3wb331337
[09:45] <borini> hi all, im trying to build X from scratch in a 12.04 chroot -- overall success but I have a question here: When building MESA, build fails because X11/Xlib.h is not found -- however, I have these headers inside /usr/X11R6/include -- how can I link vs this include folder?
[09:46] <n3wb331337> tysm guys :DDDD
[09:46] <digitalmonster> how can you install firefox beta from package manger
[09:46] <chalcedony> llutz, Network error: Connection Refused.
[09:47] <llutz> chalcedony: that means that either no sshd is listening at all on the target or it filtered by iptables or such
[09:47] <llutz> chalcedony: so check on target machine if ssh runs (sudo lsof -i :22)
[09:47] <chalcedony> llutz, how do we restart the sshd?
[09:47] <llutz> chalcedony: sudo service ssh restart
[09:50] <dsprc> borini: mayhaps /usr/include/X11  but dont blame me if it breaks something
[09:52] <chalcedony> llutz, no idea what he did: ssh: unrecognized service
[09:53] <lhavelund> openssh-server not instaled?
[09:53] <lhavelund> installed*
[09:53] <llutz> chalcedony: sudo apt-get install ssh
[09:53] <chalcedony> llutz, okies
[09:54] <user> hey guys, im having a problem getting a second graphics card to work
[09:54] <lhavelund> llutz: Unless it was changed, I believe the package name is openssh-server
[09:54] <lhavelund> Although, there may be an ssh meta package.
[09:54] <dsprc> borini: should be automagic though... you have all the $PKG-dev installed?
[09:54] <llutz> lhavelund: "apt-cache depends ssh"
[09:54] <lhavelund> llutz: *nod*
[09:55] <chalcedony> llutz, done, worked
[09:55] <lhavelund> llutz: I'm still on 10.04.04 ;)
[09:56] <llutz> !info ssh lucid
[09:56]  * lhavelund learns.
[09:56] <llutz> lhavelund: even on lucid
[09:56] <lhavelund> llutz: Well there you go. I was always used to installing the openssh-server package directly. :)
[09:57] <llutz> lhavelund: would have done too, but "ssh" is short to type ;)
[09:57] <llutz> shorter*
[09:57]  * lhavelund nods.
[09:59] <user> wondering if someone could help me get a second gpu to work
[10:01] <LEBEDA> hi
[10:02] <user> ive installed nvidia drivers, have two monitors connected to both, both 8500's,  lspci shows two cards, but both ubuntu display configuration and nvidia x server tool can only find one
[10:02] <mgedmin> found the culprit!  ~/.pam_environment
[10:03] <mgedmin> how can I figure out what component created this file?
[10:03] <chalcedony> llutz, it ssh's now.. it didn't find the drives, either
[10:03] <mgedmin> also, W. T. F.?  Every time I log into unity, it turns off sloppy focus for gnome-shell sessions?
[10:04]  * mgedmin rages
[10:04] <borini> tnks dsprc: Im installing X in a non-standard folder (/usr/X11R6) - if I create a link inside /usr/include pointing to /usr/X11R6/include/X11 all is well
[10:05] <borini> i want to avoid the link and link vs the header repository during compile time
[10:14] <user> was wondering if i could get a hand to get my second graphics card to work
[10:19] <alocer> H all
[10:19] <alocer> i just switched from windows to linux forcefully :D
[10:21] <user> hows it going alocer?
[10:21] <veryape> alocer: how do you switch forcefully?
[10:21] <hack123ABC> who can help me ?
[10:22] <alocer> i like linux more than window$ but a virus got everything i had :P
[10:22] <hack123ABC> good
[10:22] <mathfreak> hack123ABC: What's your question?
[10:22] <alocer> i cant install windows anymore :|
[10:22] <hack123ABC> tks
[10:22] <hack123ABC> how to setup linux
[10:22] <hack123ABC> a config
[10:22] <user> why cant you install windows anymore?
[10:23] <hack123ABC> how about the mac os ?
[10:23] <brady> sounds like a feature
[10:23] <hack123ABC> it't has virus ?
[10:23] <alocer> it says u cant install windows on this hardware !!!
[10:23] <alocer> hahahah =)) hack123ABC
[10:23] <hack123ABC> what's mean?
[10:23] <alocer> get rid that virus yesterday
[10:23] <hack123ABC> but Mac Os no virus?
[10:24] <alocer> i m not using apple device :D
[10:24] <hack123ABC> it's really?
[10:24] <hack123ABC> yeah
[10:25] <hack123ABC> who konw the fileshare website?
[10:26] <hack123ABC> what's time ?
[10:26] <hack123ABC> today is ?
[10:26] <Renard> join #ubuntu
[10:26] <hack123ABC> who can tell me time?
[10:26] <Renard> ur computer ?
[10:26] <gordonjcp> Tue Nov  6 10:26:41 GMT 2012
[10:26] <alocer> !time
[10:26] <hack123ABC> thanks
[10:26] <hack123ABC> my computer time is error
[10:27] <my-name-is-keyur> Hi Friends
[10:27] <user> would anyone have time to help me get a second gpu to work?
[10:27] <hack123ABC> who can see the 2012 movie?
[10:28] <my-name-is-keyur> Please Help me with My USB Modem in Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit :'(
[10:28] <DJones> hack123ABC: This isn't a file sharing network
[10:28] <hack123ABC> yeah
[10:28] <hack123ABC> is talk
[10:28] <my-name-is-keyur> Please Help me with My USB Modem in Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit :'(
[10:28] <hack123ABC> what?
[10:29] <my-name-is-keyur> im having MTS Internet Modem
[10:29] <hack123ABC> yeah
[10:29] <ezhilvanan> How can I install Nvidia Driver on Ubuntu 12.10
[10:29] <my-name-is-keyur> :(
[10:29] <my-name-is-keyur> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081137  --->>> you will get my problem
[10:29] <hack123ABC> yeah
[10:29] <hack123ABC> the people is good
[10:29] <alocer> ezhilvanan: goto nvidia site for that
[10:29] <my-name-is-keyur> that's mine thread only but no one had replies :(
[10:30] <my-name-is-keyur> can you try to help me hack124ABC ?
[10:30] <hack123ABC> ok
[10:30] <alocer> hack123ABC: where r u from ?
[10:30] <gordonjcp> my-name-is-keyur: what's the problem?
[10:30] <hack123ABC> how chat?
[10:30] <my-name-is-keyur> :D
[10:30] <my-name-is-keyur> India
[10:30] <hack123ABC> ok
[10:30] <hack123ABC> good
[10:30] <user> ezhilvanan: open your ubuntu software centre
[10:30] <hack123ABC> the irc it's good
[10:30] <my-name-is-keyur>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081137  --->>> you will get my problem
[10:31] <hack123ABC> people very hot
[10:31] <ezhilvanan> I has been installed nvidia on my system. Now I cannot find launcher and menu icons
[10:31] <my-name-is-keyur> hehe :d
[10:31] <DJones> hack123ABC: This channel isn't a general chat channel, its only for ubuntu support, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[10:31] <user> in the bar at the very top of your monitor, go to edit > software sources
[10:31] <hack123ABC> ok
[10:31] <my-name-is-keyur> hack123ABC read my thread ?
[10:31] <hack123ABC> yeah
[10:31] <hack123ABC> do you have gmail?
[10:31] <my-name-is-keyur> so any ideas :(
[10:32] <my-name-is-keyur> yes i do :)
[10:32] <hack123ABC> we can talk
[10:32] <user> ezhilvanan: if youve installed it correctly, go to dash home, and type nvidia
[10:32] <hack123ABC> ok
[10:32] <my-name-is-keyur> but my net is very slow :(
[10:32] <my-name-is-keyur> using phone 2g
[10:32] <hack123ABC> oh
[10:32] <my-name-is-keyur> as my modem is not working
[10:32] <hack123ABC> phone?
[10:32] <my-name-is-keyur> yea
[10:32] <hack123ABC> is about driver?
[10:33] <my-name-is-keyur> come one private chat bro :)
[10:34] <ezhilvanan> My desktop is Empty..there is nothing to open.. My launcher is gone..
[10:34] <ezhilvanan> I can able to open the terminal only
[10:34] <ezhilvanan> using shortcut
[10:35] <alocer> ezhilvanan: what desktop r u using ? xfce , .... ? wich one ?
[10:35] <ezhilvanan> I'm using hp 430 laptop
[10:35] <alocer> my-name-is-keyur:  did it happen after an update ?
[10:35] <alocer> ezhilvanan: i mean metacity , xfce ?
[10:35] <ezhilvanan> ubuntu 12.10
[10:35] <f11f12> hello, I'm  missing /lib64/libdl.so.2 I do only have the 32 bit version in /lib32. how can I install it?
[10:36] <alocer> f11f12: how thats possible ?
[10:36] <ezhilvanan> thanks alocer
[10:36] <f11f12> alocer: I've got no idea.
[10:36] <ezhilvanan> i uninstalled the nvidia driver via terminal
[10:37] <ezhilvanan> now i got all of my icons
[10:37] <alocer> f11f12: r u sure u are running x64 ?
[10:37] <alocer> ezhilvanan: fixed ?
[10:37] <f11f12> alocer: it's a intel core i5, kernel: 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:37] <alocer> ezhilvanan: check nvidia site , they are providing the correct way to install it
[10:38] <alocer> f11f12: wierd , first time here something like that
[10:38] <alocer> hear* :P
[10:38] <ezhilvanan> okay
[10:38] <alocer> ezhilvanan: sry
[10:39] <ezhilvanan> for what?
[10:39] <ezhilvanan> now i'll refer the nvidia site
[10:39] <alocer> ezhilvanan: fo that i cant help
[10:39] <alocer> oops
[10:40] <user> ezhilvanan: an easier way is to use ubuntu software centre
[10:41] <alocer> user: what about additional software ?
[10:41] <user> what?
[10:41] <ezhilvanan> wow its available in USC.. thanks a lot
[10:41] <alocer> ;)
[10:42] <alocer> additional drivers i mean
[10:42] <user> not sure about drivers for other things
[10:42] <alpi> gwibber in my ubuntu can't authorized twitter, what must i do?
[10:43] <user> i think theres a section in system settings for other drivers
[10:43] <alocer> log into twitter and confirm that ur username is working
[10:43] <ezhilvanan> yeah i got it now .. thank u alocer n user
[10:43] <alocer> ezhilvanan: ur welcome
[10:43] <user> no problem
[10:44] <someone> hi
[10:45] <BenyaminL> Hello all :)
[10:45] <BenyaminL> How are you?
[10:45] <alocer> EYVaL
[10:46] <Guest86631> I seem to get the most useless error messages...  "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly"
[10:46] <Guest86631> I rebooted after doing well, nothing special actually.. Just ordinary usage and suddenly, I cannot log in properly considering the loss of my data
[10:46] <BenyaminL> I'm really sad my ubuntu 12.04 have some problem
[10:47] <BenyaminL> What ubuntu do you use?
[10:47] <alocer> BenyaminL: whats that  ?
[10:47] <BenyaminL> Yeah like no battery alert and i can't run comand via alt+f2
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> !details | BenyaminL
[10:47] <BenyaminL> I'm running on 12.04 LTS
[10:48] <BenyaminL> Precise Paoglin
[10:48] <alocer> BenyaminL: r u on unity ?
[10:48] <BenyaminL> No error, but nothing happen when open gconf
[10:49] <alocer> BenyaminL: have u checked the shortcuts for your keyboard ?
[10:49] <alpi> okay,
[10:51] <BenyaminL> Yeah
[10:51] <BenyaminL> Yeah
[10:53] <Noriandir> hi. I'm having some problems with crontab. it does not execute one script sometimes... =/
[10:53] <iceroot> Noriandir: we need more details
[10:54] <iceroot> Noriandir: the exact cronjob and maybe usefull infos from /var/log/syslog
[10:54] <snikker> i'm under 12.10 (fresh install), i'munable to boot windows os (/dev/sdb1), i've run update-grub2, but when i select windows in the grub menu i've got this error: "A disk error occurredpress ctrl+al+canc to restart. can you help me to fix it?
[10:55] <alocer> snikker: the problem i have and after i fixed it , i m not able to use window$ :D
[10:56] <alocer> snikker: this happens when your partition table is corrupted
[10:57] <alocer> snikker: i think you should reinstall your window$
[10:57] <Noriandir> iceroot, script: http://pastie.org/5194653          syslog: http://pastie.org/5194666           crontab: http://pastie.org/5194669
[11:00] <iceroot> Noriandir: 40  23  *   *   mon-fri  /home/ciccio/Scripts/Simulazione/Simulate_NEW >> /home/ciccio/MESSAGE/Summary.log
[11:00] <iceroot> Noriandir: there you are missing bash  if the script is not executable the script will not start
[11:02] <Noriandir> i know, but that is not relevent. the script begins with a #!/bin/bash and if you see the time, the one that in syslog wasn't exectuted was the one at 10:50 AM an that had the bash before
[11:02] <iceroot> Noriandir: the script will only executed if it has chmod +x  the shebang is not important for that, but that is just an info, seems its executable in your case
[11:03] <iceroot> Noriandir: and i dont see a script which sould start on 10:50
[11:03] <Noriandir> iceroot, yes, it is. It has 755 permissions
[11:04] <iceroot> Noriandir: 22:40, 23:10, 23:40 and 11:51
[11:04] <iceroot> Noriandir: no 10:50
[11:04] <Noriandir> iceroot, yea, you're right. i misstyped there. the last one is me testing for see if it is working
[11:05] <Noriandir> iceroot, always changing to a few minute after editing it
[11:06] <iceroot> Noriandir: * * * * * foobar :)
[11:06] <snikker> alocer: partition tabkle is ok, bacause if i boot only with a windows disk attached it boot
[11:06] <snikker> *because
[11:06] <BenyaminL> Hmm..
[11:06] <BenyaminL> I'm alone here ==a
[11:06] <BenyaminL> Left
[11:07] <Noriandir> iceroot, yea, i probably should have done that. or making it execute every 2 minutes or so
[11:07] <dr_willis> hmmm
[11:07] <iceroot> Noriandir: yeah
[11:07] <alocer> snikker: i read somewhere about virus named "Disk Error" look into task manager and see if u have randome.exe running ?
[11:07] <alocer> snikker: on windows ofcurse
[11:08] <alocer> snikker: if yes u have that virus
[11:08] <snikker> alocer: i don't think to have a virus
[11:08] <alocer> snikker: mine was toasted , so i have changed it
[11:09] <alocer> snikker: i wasn't able to boot anything
[11:09] <Noriandir> iceroot, changed it to 00-59/5. lets see if it works. because it worked the last time i changed the date... not sure if it will work allways tho =/
[11:09] <alocer> snikker: but you can boot into Linux , right ?
[11:10] <snikker> alocer: with only a windows disk, windows boot, it boot (i've 2 disks)
[11:10] <snikker> alocer: it doesn't work with grub2
[11:11] <alocer> snikker: and says disk error ocurred ?
[11:11] <alocer> !!!!!!
[11:11] <alocer> idk
[11:12] <snikker> alocer: no
[11:12] <snikker> it say only disk read error
[11:12] <alocer> is grub installed on MBR ?
[11:14] <funch> grub just changes the first boot sector or sth in mbr if i'm not wrng but it should be installed on your /boot
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:17] <alocer> snikker: "If you see GRUB , do you have a XP cd ? from MS XP cd boot into recovery console and run 'fixboot'." will it helps ?
[11:17] <alocer> u can do the same with windows 7
[11:17] <snikker> alocer: i've already tried with fixboot from xp cdrom
[11:18] <alocer> snikker: ok
[11:18] <BluesKaj> snikker, fixmbr
[11:18] <BluesKaj> with XP
[11:19] <alocer> snikker: 12.04 or 12.10 ?
[11:20] <Feedbook> 12.04 is solid and polished at the moment
[11:21] <alocer> snikker:   i think this works --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205589/a-disk-read-error-while-starting-windows-after-ubuntu-upgrade-boot-repair
[11:24] <vlt> Hello. I’m using thunderbird for IMAP e-mail on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. There’s a problem with a filling up /home partition: ~/.thunderbird is more than 3 GB large and constantly growing while the Maildir on the IMAP server is only 40 MB. Any idea how to prevent this?
[11:24] <jrib> vlt: find out what exactly is taking up that space
[11:25] <alocer> vlt: using disk usage anylyzer plz
[11:25] <alocer> yes that
[11:27] <cshong> Hello!
[11:27] <cshong> I am facing a problem with Ubuntu Software Center.
[11:27] <reduz> hi guys! question, I upgraded to 12.10, but ubuntu will not boot anymore. It complains of not being able to find the root fs (hd0,msdos5) and kernel panics right at the start. Booting with an older kernel works ok though, how do I fix this?
[11:29] <Feedbook> reduz
[11:29] <vlt> jrib, alocer: It’s the directory ~/.thunderbird/<uuid>/ImapMail/<imapp_account>  Do you need more specific data?
[11:29] <jrib> vlt: yes
[11:29] <Feedbook> reduz: which partition format you are using? ext3 or ext4
[11:29] <mellhen> hello@everybody: is this the right place to ask, if graphics fails?
[11:29] <takinya> reduz try booting with a livecd of 12.10 had the same problem and it somehow fixed grub and error
[11:29] <cshong> Ubuntu Software Center does not automatically update the cache.
[11:30] <takinya> cshong try using "sudo apt-get up-get update" from terminal
[11:31] <cshong> I know I can update the cache using the command.
[11:31] <cshong> But,
[11:32] <vlt> jrib, alocer: The three largest files in that directory: 1353    ./Trash      629     ./sent      189     ./INBOX
[11:32] <snoozie> how to changes the cursor theme without having to update-alternatives or whatever that technical jumbo is
[11:32] <vlt> jrib, alocer: .Trash on the server is 25 MB
[11:33] <alocer> vlt: :O awwww
[11:33] <MaxFrames> hello
[11:33] <vlt> jrib, alocer: .cur is only 18 MB
[11:33] <cshong> If the users have to manually run commands just for updating cache, then I am sorry to say that Ubuntu is not user-friendly anymore.
[11:33] <alocer> vlt: i dont know what is going on there
[11:33] <alocer> vlt: but if i were you i try deleting theme ! i m not saying you should !!!
[11:34] <snoozie> cshong, ubuntu hasnt been user friendly since ever
[11:34] <vlt> alocer: I did several times for weeks now.
[11:34] <snoozie> cshong, but its about the closest i spose
[11:34] <MaxFrames> is it possible to configure Ubuntu so that all the updates to the currently installed software is performed automatically and without user interaction? If so, can you tell me how?
[11:34] <vlt> alocer: It’s always growing back to that size within one or two days.
[11:34] <MaxFrames> I want this box to auto update itself, without user intervention because the user won't be a sudoer
[11:34] <snoozie> MaxFrames, does the update manager not handle that for you?
[11:35] <snoozie> MaxFrames, oh i see
[11:35] <bigmeow> hi all
[11:35] <bigmeow> what scsi_eh_0 process means?
[11:35] <jrib> MaxFrames: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/automatic-updates.html there's some gui way too iirc.
[11:35] <MaxFrames> snoozie: I don't know, I have no experience with that; it's for a user who insists upon using Ubuntu in an all-Windows environment
[11:35] <takinya> cshong have you tried updating dpkg?
[11:36] <MaxFrames> I told him OK, but won't set him up as a sudoer
[11:36] <crlcan81> I actually have a question relating to a non-Ubuntu OS client for Ubuntu One
[11:36] <MaxFrames> jrib: looks good, do you know if that works in 12.04 lts too?
[11:37] <jrib> MaxFrames: sure, just change the 12.10 to 12.04 in the url :P
[11:37] <reduz> Feedbook, i'm not sure, let me check
[11:37] <GRRR3> hey fellas, i cannot get ubuntu to install on my DELL INSPIRON laptop. it installs fine and then reboots and just freezes on a blank screen
[11:37] <GRRR3> can anyone please help?
[11:37] <snoozie> MaxFrames, update manager usually requires a password, however most apps are installed globally i believe and only the settings are user-specific, so when the sudoer on said machine updates so does everyone
[11:37] <reduz> Feedbook, ext4
[11:37] <jrib> MaxFrames: I'd be fairly conservative about the repositories you update automatically though.  I would stick to just -security
[11:37] <crlcan81> I'm not sure if it's because of my firewall setup or something else, but whenever I try and log into my pre-existing Ubuntu One account it says 'can't encrypt'
[11:37] <reduz> takinya, just booting the livecd and doing nothing?
[11:37] <cshong> Previously, when I use Ubuntu Brainstorm website to make a suggestion about something related to update cache in Ubuntu Software Center, and my suggestion was not accepted by the developers. And a developer claim that Ubuntu Software Center will update the cache automatically.
[11:38] <crlcan81> I'm running Windows XP SP3 on a OOOLD Gateway business machine.
[11:38] <jrib> MaxFrames: here's the wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[11:38] <MaxFrames> jrib: yes, I think so too
[11:38] <GRRR3> nevermind
[11:39] <crlcan81> Trying to use my Ubuntu One account to upload the files we want to try and transfer to a newer machine, since this one's so old it has a 3 1/4" floppy and only a CD Rom reader.
[11:39] <crlcan81> And I'm not sure how to setup a network file transfer between XP and 7.
[11:39] <takinya> reduz check your boot sequence
[11:39] <cshong> Takiya, I haven't. Because according to the developer, Ubuntu Software Center will update it automatically. I thought it is true.
[11:40] <arcsky> dante is a good proxy server for FTP traffic ?
[11:40] <vlt> jrib: Do you need more specific data?
[11:40] <snoozie> crlcan81, i dont know ow to answer your question, but i can suggest DropBox
[11:40] <takinya> reduz when booting from livecd boot and select try ubuntu without any change to your computer
[11:40]  * crlcan81 nods.
[11:40] <crlcan81> I think I have a dropbox too, if I don't ..I'll make one
[11:40] <jrib> vlt: I would yeah.  But maybe at this point you may want to do some research about whether it's normal for whatever reason
[11:40] <cshong> Anyway, I am going to report this bug.
[11:41] <MaxFrames> jrib: I'd also like to connect to the Ubuntu desktop from my Windows machine. Is it really simple as this? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/
[11:41] <snoozie> cshong, search first, there may already be a report
[11:41] <reduz> also, ubuntu captured F10, how do i make it not capture F10?
[11:42] <takinya> cshong it does update it automatically but if there is a corrupt file it can be checked from terminal as you boot your computer by using "sudo touch -f"
[11:42] <snoozie> MaxFrames, without looking ill gues that yes it is, ive remote controlled ubuntu via windows rather easily
[11:42] <jrib> MaxFrames: I've used vnc and rdp in the past, but have no experience with xrdp in recent versions.  I assume it's that easy, sure
[11:43] <takinya> reduz on terminal type "sudo badblocks -sv /dev/sda"
[11:43] <MaxFrames> final question: since the system will be dual booted (windows and ubuntu), who knows if there is a way to connect remotely to grub and choose one or the other, then let the chosen OS boot and finally connect via RDP or VNC?
[11:44] <takinya> cshong try "sudo touch /forcefsck"
[11:44] <MaxFrames> suppose I need to boot the machine (wake on lan) and then choose Windows over the default Ubuntu in order to do remote maintenance
[11:44] <MaxFrames> to do this I suppose I need to remotely connect to grub before the OS boots
[11:45] <Priyantha> Hi all
[11:45] <snoozie> MaxFrames, i doubt grub can be controlled remotely, a timer would assist in selecting an OS
[11:45] <Priyantha> I have got a problem with cpu frequency scaling, maybe somebody can help me with that ? :)
[11:45] <Priyantha> I am getting: "no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU"
[11:45] <Priyantha> when I run cpufreq-info
[11:45] <Priyantha> but I can't find any governor kernel modules
[11:45] <MaxFrames> snoozie: how can I take advantage of a timer to make a remote system boot off the non default OS?
[11:46] <Priyantha> root@Filerserver:/lib/modules/3.5.0-18-generic# find |grep ondemand
[11:46] <MaxFrames> I mean, if I cannot connect to grub, how do I choose the second OS in the list to boot from?
[11:46] <Priyantha> and it doesn't give me any results :(
[11:46] <snoozie> MaxFrames, wouldnt be able to, only choices are choosing the default or making default the previously selected OS
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[11:47] <FloodBot1> Pajilleitor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:47] <cshong> The issue that I am facing is not only about updating. I just reinstalled Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I want to install a package "build-essential". Regardless of which server I choose in "software sources", I cannot find that package in Ubuntu Software Center. Always, there is an error "No items match......".
[11:48] <nablet> hi, mz wireless suddenlz stoped working. i sue ubuntu 12.04, fluxbox and wicd as network-manager. can anyone help me with trouble shooting. i didn't find anything for that problem online :(
[11:48] <snoozie> MaxFrames, http://superuser.com/questions/183401/remote-control-via-ethernet-a-computer-from-boot-for-grub-choices-on-linux
[11:49] <Priyantha> somebody who can help me with my cpu freq scaling problems ?
[11:49] <Priyantha> the module acpi-cpufreq is not available :'(
[11:50] <petantik> Are the Ubuntu kernels pre configured for usb serial debugging?
[11:50] <cshong> That package should exist. But, the error "No items match....." proved to me that the software center does not update the cache automatically.
[11:50] <snoozie> MaxFrames, spose thats not really valid to your situation
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> !find cpufreq
[11:50] <bazhang> cpufrequtils   Priyantha perhaps that can help
[11:51] <Priyantha> I have installed that package bazhang :)
[11:51] <Priyantha> cpufreq-info is part of that package
[11:51] <bazhang> cshong, pastebin your sources.list
[11:51] <Priyantha> I used that tool to determine that I can't change my frequency, but my CPU should be able to
[11:53] <piotr99999> Hi there
[11:53] <piotr99999> a need a little help
[11:53] <Priyantha> is that because I am running a 3.5.0 kernel maybe ?
[11:54] <cshong> My sources.list
[11:54] <cshong> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120817.3)]/ precise main restricted  # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to # newer versions of the distribution. deb http://ubuntu.oss.eznetsols.org/ubuntu/ precise main restricted deb-src http://ubuntu.oss.eznetsols.org/ubuntu/ precise main restricted  ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribut
[11:54] <MaxFrames> snoozie: indeed. some of our newer systems support the intel amt tecnology but this is not one of them, looks like an ethernet kvm would be the only way
[11:54] <cshong> Wait...
[11:54] <bazhang> cshong, in a pastebin, not the channel
[11:54] <Priyantha> cshong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:55] <nablet> hi, my wireless card randomly stops working and for now i can only fix it a reboot :( sudo iwlist gives me Failed to read scan data: invalid argument
[11:55] <piotr99999> running 12.04 lts server, need to upgrade samba to 3.6.6 which ist availible in 12.10, but i want to stay on 12.04lts. how to do it?
[11:55] <bazhang> piotr99999, either check for a backport/PPA or compile it
[11:56] <piotr99999> bazhang, thx, give me a link where to search backport/PPA
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> piotr99999  but then you can't expect (much) support from the channel
[11:56] <bazhang> piotr99999, backports are a repo you can enable in your package manager, search PPA at the launchpad search ppa site
[11:57] <nini_knoxville> hi
[11:57] <Haunt_House> has anyone succeeded in connecting windows 7 and precise with a switch?
[11:58] <Haunt_House> could use some guidance
[11:58] <cshong> Pastebin URL: http://pastebin.com/54Yy0um2
[12:00] <bazhang> cshong, and apt-cache search does not show it?
[12:00] <snoozie> weird problem of the day, i used cairo dock to disable unity and alt+tab is not working (can't remember if it did before hand)
[12:01] <TomRandom> Hi, I'm having trouble compiling a simple C program on 12LTS which compiled fine on 10LTS. error: undefined reference to, which I believe is because of changes to linker config, but can't figure out how to fix it... any advice?
[12:01] <afidegnum> hello, I want to move all the contents of newpath1 /file/my/newpath/newpath1    to files/my/newpath     where some contents of newpath1 seems idendical to newpath ther are subdirectories inside newpath1    what si the command to use? I am using the mv command which seems not working
[12:02] <bazhang> afidegnum, and "not working" means what exactly. please be clear, and paste the exact command you used
[12:03] <bazhang> !paste | afidegnum
[12:03] <cshong> I haven't update cache yet, so it does not shows. I am worry that if I update the cache through "sudo apt-get update", I am not be able to reproduce the same problem when required by the developers.
[12:03] <bazhang> cshong, you need to update the sources.list...
[12:04] <afidegnum> bazhang: I just used mv * ..
[12:04] <afidegnum> I also used mv -f * ..
[12:04] <bazhang> afidegnum, exact command to pastebin please, along with errors
[12:05] <afidegnum> this is one of the error pls `htmlpurifier' to `../htmlpurifier': Directory not empty
[12:06] <dr_willis> i always just use 'mc' for command line file management
[12:06] <cshong> i know that i need to update the cache to install the package I want. But, I just afraid that I cannot reproduce the problem (Ubuntu Software Center not updating the cache automatically) when required by the developers.
[12:07] <enriq> why when I try to install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+package/nvidia-96 apt-get says it is a virtual package included in blah blah
[12:08] <joseph^> why does ubuntu come with embedded adware/spyware?
[12:08] <nablet> hi, mz wireless card powers off after some time and i cant turn it back on :( i tried txpower and all kind of iwlist and iwconfig commands
[12:09] <bazhang> joseph^, it doesnt
[12:09] <bazhang> !adlens | joseph^
[12:09] <nablet> until now i can only get it to work by reboot
[12:09] <cshong> i will manually update the cache later. Before that, I will install Ubuntu in a virtual machine under Windows first, so that I can reproduce the bug by using virtual machine when the developers need it.
[12:10] <joseph^> gnu.org says it does.
[12:10] <joseph^> thanks anyway
[12:10] <bazhang> joseph^, did you have an actual support question
[12:10] <joseph^> that was it.
[12:11] <bazhang> that was not a support question
[12:11] <TomRandom> anyone able to help me with compile problem? i believe it's related to --no-as-needed anyone know about that?
[12:11] <purvesh> can some one help me for ubuntu 12.10 installation on my ultrabook ?
[12:13] <tope> B2B
[12:15] <rgarrigue> Hi guys
[12:15] <rgarrigue> I've an issue trying to launch Konsole with gnome3  menu launcher
[12:16] <rgarrigue> I've some message like unable to switch directory for $HOME
[12:16] <Priyantha> w0000t mine cpu freq is working ;)
[12:16] <Priyantha> it was some BIOS settings to change :)
[12:16] <rgarrigue> Already got this one some month ago, but I'me unable to remember or find the fix again
[12:16] <Priyantha> running a new system and changed some O.C settings, and it was broken, now I changed some things and it's working again :)
[12:17] <Jekyll> rgarrigue: open /usr/share/applications/kde4/konsole.desktop, remove that "Path=$HOME" line
[12:19] <rgarrigue> Thanks Jekyll, it's fixed
[12:20] <justusw> hi there
[12:21] <justusw> ok, I just did a clean install on a 2 year old computer, with 2 AMD HD 6870, and the graphic bugs are really annoying me
[12:21] <justusw> how can I update the standard install to something that actually can cope with my graphics cards?
[12:21] <justusw> The search for Eyefinity Ubuntu did not yield anything usable
[12:21] <Priyantha> you are runnong 12.10 ?
[12:21] <justusw> affirmative
[12:21] <Priyantha> and using the latest fglrx drivers ?
[12:22] <justusw> it's a fresh install using the netinstall image
[12:22] <justusw> I have done nothing besides getting quassel to get to irc
[12:22] <FOSSrookie> Well, you guys may not like my question but...I was looking at some wiki software and I found something called kwiki and um... well I visited its site and was curious as to whether or not this is legit. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/310 shows a link to its main page...why don't you check it out. Just be careful. Is this legit software? If not why is it in the repos?
[12:22] <Priyantha> okay, did you already install the latest fglrx drivers ?
[12:23] <justusw> Priyantha: probably not, if that is not done automatically by the installer. How can I check that and how should I install them if not?
[12:23] <Priyantha> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:23] <dr_willis> !info kwiki
[12:24] <chalcedony> how can i get my husband's hard drives to be visible in the gui?
[12:24] <chalcedony> hi dr_willis *hugs*
[12:24] <FOSSrookie> dr_willis: Did you see the site!
[12:24] <dr_willis> chalcedony: what filesystem? you could make fstab entrys or mount them by hand.
[12:25] <tzar> Am completely new to this... can anyone tell me how to launch the apps shown in the Software central??
[12:25] <justusw> Priyantha: I did install that yesterday from the software center, the result was a complete mess that I only could fix with reinstalling
[12:26] <dr_willis> i tend to use tiddlywiki FOSSrookie
[12:26] <dr_willis> tzar: install them. then you can use the dash search feature normally.
[12:26] <justusw> Priyantha: Right now my 3 monitors are working in a way, they're slow and laggy, and there are some graphical artifacts, but they work
[12:27] <dr_willis> !manual | tzar
[12:27] <justusw> after installing the binary driver last time around I was missing the sidebar and other stuff generally considered as need to have
[12:29] <chalcedony> dr_willis, something my husband can do with one hand?
[12:29] <nafa> Hi, I just upgraded from  12.04, and installed the gnome3 packages. now, launching firefox from the terminal works fine, but using the overview in gnome3 it just doesn't start (although firefox claims it's running now)
[12:30] <nafa> any idea what I can do about this?
[12:30] <dr_willis> chalcedony:  huh? that almost sounded... err... dirty.. (^_^)
[12:30] <FOSSrookie> chalcedony: ???
[12:31] <FOSSrookie> chalcedony: You must be really new!
[12:31] <chalcedony> dr_willis, he had a stroke, he can't speak or understand speech, or remember words.. he does use his computer.
[12:31] <chalcedony> f00dMonsta, you must be new, you don't know me?
[12:32] <norbert79> Autotab time :)
[12:32] <FOSSrookie> chalcedony: When we use the term mount we are not talking about a manual (physical) operation.
[12:32] <norbert79> So disabled users
[12:32] <dr_willis> if you want total controll of drives mounting. you can make fstab entries for the devices.
[12:32] <Priyantha> mmm justusw I can't help you further, sorry :(
[12:33] <chalcedony> f00dMonsta, i know.. forgot commands though/
[12:33] <Priyantha> I don't have any ATi/AMD cards here arround to help you testing
[12:33] <norbert79> chalcedony: Press your <TAB> one more time please, you are addressing the wrong person :)
[12:33] <dr_willis> if a windows filesystem is unmounted wrongly.ubuntu may refuse to.automount them.
[12:34] <chalcedony> norbert79, oh yeah! i should go to bed.. he just wants to find his drives ..
[12:34] <norbert79> chalcedony: Regarding one hand use: I think a virtual keyboard on the screen and using the mouse could be helpful
[12:36] <norbert79> I think accessibility tools have an on-screen-keyboard available
[12:36] <chalcedony> hmm atm he's got it set so he can copy and paste without holding down keys
[12:36] <prodnix> Hi all, Im using a live disc for a testdisk session to recover some data. I am using PXE server and booting precise. When i try to ap-get install testdisk it get error "Unable to locate package". any help would be hugely appreciated
[12:37] <chalcedony> norbert79, it drives me crazy but works for him
[12:37] <norbert79> chalcedony: It works for him at least :) Btw, it's called gok: http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/stable/gok.html
[12:37] <dr_willis> !info testdisk
[12:37] <norbert79> !info gok
[12:37] <dr_willis> try a sudo apt-get update   first?
[12:38] <prodnix> dr_willis: tryed
[12:38] <norbert79> prodnix: Are you sure the disk you want to use is enabled in the repository sources?
[12:39] <prodnix> norbert79: explain further please
[12:39] <dr_willis> its on the universe repository. that may not be enabled.
[12:39] <norbert79> prodnix: Well, within the repository sources, or within /etc/apt.d/sources.list the CD-ROM or DVD_ROM must be listed as possible source for packages
[12:39] <norbert79> prodnix: Or what dr_willis meant: some repository resources might have not been enabled
[12:41] <prodnix> norbert79: that sounds like the most likely case but i have no idea what to add in sources.list. so far only "main restricted" are there. only 3 entries altogether
[12:41] <norbert79> prodnix: Since I assume you don't have much experience, I would suggest using Ubuntu software center and then fine-tune it within
[12:41] <norbert79> prodnix: I think it's in "settings", or has it's own menu entry
[12:43] <prodnix> norbert79: tyvm, all sorted!!! thanx all
[12:43] <norbert79> prodnix: You are welcome
[12:43] <loganRun> I am not getting any sound from the subwolfer for some reason. I have hdmi output and the and 5.1 selected, the other 4 speakers seem o.k.
[12:43] <norbert79> prodnix: Would be worth now looking at the sources.list too, so you can see what has been entered there while you have updated your settings :)
[12:43] <loganRun> it feels like it is muted or something, is there like an extended control for the sound or something
[12:44] <prodnix> norbert79: Thats what i did to verify. Hopefully now once -apt-get update is complete i can install testdisk
[12:44] <tommy82934> hello, i have a ubuntu partition with 0 free bytes (i transfered a lot of files to it), and it can`t boot, i`ve acessed through a live cd but i can`t seem to delete files from the kubuntu partition
[12:44] <norbert79> loganRun: Did you try to check how many controllers are listed? I mean sometimes it's just one colume missing. Sometimes I install gnome-alsa-mixer, where I can't fine-tune
[12:44] <tommy82934> how can i delete them
[12:45] <norbert79> prodnix: You will
[12:45] <tommy82934> i`m sorry i misspelled ubuntu for kubuntu
[12:45] <loganRun> norbert: controllers listed where?
[12:45] <norbert79> loganRun: Within the PulseAudio controller
[12:45] <norbert79> loganRun: I have just a few, so I install gnome-alsa-mixer as an additional package to check them in detail
[12:46] <prodnix> norbert79: Perfect, tysm
[12:46] <norbert79> prodnix: yw
[12:46] <norbert79> tommy82934: Ok, first, are you sure there are no bytes free?
[12:46] <tommy82934> hello, i have a partition with kubuntu installed, after transfering some files, i got 0 bytes space free in the partition, and the partition couldn`t boot anymore, now i`ve booted through a live cd to try and delete files so the partition can boot,  but i can`t delete the files , it says they don`t exist
[12:46] <Michiellllaptop> there's nog EQ in rhythmbox or am I blind? alternatives?
[12:46] <tommy82934> yes im sure, (sorry for posting the messag again)
[12:47] <norbert79> Michiellllaptop: Well, normally if you doubleclick the pulseuadio loudspeaker icon it should pop up
[12:47] <norbert79> tommy82934: Well, this happens if you use torrents so often. :) Alright, so you could also try accessing your system using your liveCD and then access the partitions within
[12:48] <loganRun> norbert: how do I access the pulse audio controler, I am just using the sound control under the control pannel, is there another app you were refering to?
[12:48] <norbert79> tommy82934: depending on where you transferred the files you should free up some space there
[12:48] <tommy82934> yes, i tried deleting files on the partition so I could free some space up, but i can`t move them to the trash on the live cd, they are on the home/folder folder
[12:48] <norbert79> loganRun: As told I use the Gnome-alsa-mixer application as additional equalizer
[12:48] <Michiellllaptop> norbert79, where would there be an EQ then? (equalizer)
[12:49] <loganRun> norbert:ok, trying to download that
[12:49] <norbert79> !info gnome-alsa-mixer
[12:49] <norbert79> heh
[12:49] <norbert79> let me check this
[12:49] <tommy82934> norbert79: i get a Could not read /media/
[12:50] <fulcanelli> hello everyone!
[12:50] <cshong> Bug reported. URL: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1075537 . Hopefully, someone who face the same problem will give a comment there.
[12:50] <norbert79> tommy82934: Sounds not good... Are you sure the disk has the partition there?
[12:50] <jackielieu> hello
[12:50] <norbert79> loganRun: gnome-alsamixer
[12:50] <tommy82934> norbert79: yes, there is the root partition in the file manager i can access it
[12:50] <jackielieu> hello everyone,this is the first time using linux
[12:50] <tommy82934> norbert79: maybe it is security and permission related? i can`t  change the permission on the folder im trying to delete
[12:51] <fulcanelli> Nope
[12:51] <fulcanelli> I use Linux from 1998
[12:51] <norbert79> tommy82934: yes, that can occur, you should access your files as admin/root
[12:52] <jackielieu> I always use window before,but now,i find linux is excellent
[12:52] <fulcanelli> what's this chat deal? .. support?
[12:52] <norbert79> fulcanelli: Exactly, #ubuntu-offtopic is for generic talk
[12:52] <loganRun> norbert79: o.k doesn't look like anything except front mike and line are muted
[12:52] <TheLordOfTime> fulcanelli, this channel is for Ubuntu support.  #ubuntu-offtopic for other discussion.
[12:53] <fulcanelli> norbert79: OK!
[12:53] <jackielieu> what are you doing? i am a fresh man
[12:53] <taip> ciao
[12:53] <norbert79> loganRun: Well, can't help you further there, sorry, I have no access to any 5.1 capable device at this moment, or any recent Ubuntu
[12:53] <taip> italian list
[12:54] <norbert79> loganRun: Though you might want to check something: check if all available sections are listed
[12:54] <tommy82934> norbert79: i`ve accessed with root file manager and was able to delete, thanks for the help
[12:54] <norbert79> loganRun: Like sometimes some controllers are hidden as default... Check the mixer-menu
[12:54] <fulcanelli> I am using XChat .... any recomendation for a better IRC client?
[12:54] <dr_willis> xchat works well
[12:55] <ThinkT510> fulcanelli: what's wrong with xchat?
[12:55] <norbert79> fulcanelli: Depends on what you prefer, but I think that's not a generic support realted question, more like depends on taste :)
[12:55] <norbert79> tommy82934: You are welcome
[12:55] <cshong> I leave now. Thanks to everybody who responded to me.
[12:55] <fulcanelli> I don't like the GUI ... that's all
[12:55] <TheLordOfTime> fulcanelli, irssi exists. its command line.
[12:55] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[12:55] <norbert79> fulcanelli: Use Irssi then :)
[12:55] <norbert79> or ircII
[12:55] <ThinkT510> fulcanelli: weechat is a terminal client
[12:56] <dr_willis> i prefer weechat over irssi
[12:56] <loganRun> norbert79: should the subwolfer be LFE? I am not seeing anything hidden in the menu's
[12:56] <MK``> I'm using the Classic desktop in Ubuntu 11.10. Is there any way to move the clock? It's in the top center of the screen, I'd like to move it to the right
[12:56] <fego> +1 for weechat :)
[12:56] <norbert79> loganRun: No idea really :(
[12:56] <petantik> Are the Ubuntu kernels pre configured for usb serial debugging?
[12:57] <petantik> Anyone know?
[12:57] <loganRun> norbert79: seems like it is , low frequency effects from google, but not sure what to do next still no sound from that channel
[12:57] <norbert79> petantik: No idea, is /var/log/syslog or dmesg not talkative enough?
[12:57] <fulcanelli> Thank you for your advice ... I will try this other clients
[12:58] <fulcanelli> Now I have to go .... goodbye
[12:58] <norbert79> loganRun: You could also check /var/log/syslog or messages, maybe something was there about the missing of your subwoofer...
[12:58] <petantik> norbert79: I'm setting up kernel debugging
[13:00] <justusw> how can I rearrange my monitors?
[13:01] <justusw> catalyst control centershows me all three of them
[13:01] <justusw> but they're stuck together in a stupid way and I can't move more than one of them at the same time
[13:02] <loganRun> norbert: seems like it works for other stuff, I guess it is just the test gui that is screwed up
[13:02] <justusw> that is, not in ccc but in the ubuntu menu
[13:02] <norbert79> loganRun: Interesting...
[13:02] <norbert79> loganRun: But it works at least
[13:03] <loganRun> norbert: yeah, good enoough
[13:03] <poire21> Hi. Wondering if anyone has heard of problems with Logitech k750 keyboard in Ubuntu. It works but I am experiencing weird bugs
[13:04] <smith765> Hello Everyone, I am having some problems while updating repositories, i get this error Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/restricted/source/Sources  404  Not Found Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updat
[13:04] <llutz> petantik: grep USB_SERIAL /boot/config-$(uname -r) |less
[13:04] <Guest11600> in unity desktop, ubuntu 12.04.. whenever i switch application by pressing Alt+Tab, there is this application although its not even installed - inkscape, and no process running. how to get rid of it ?
[13:05] <Guest11600> any1 else with the same problem ?
[13:05] <petantik> llutz: excellent, exactly what i was looking for.
[13:06] <projectrallus> heya
[13:07] <Guest11600> I upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 from 10.04. While switching apps. using Alt+Tab keys, inkscape shows up in the list for no reason :(
[13:07] <projectrallus> I heard you can run Ubuntu alongside windows without defaulting to either platform
[13:07] <Guest11600> any idea guys ?
[13:08] <projectrallus> How would I go about doing that?
[13:08] <DJones> !dualboot | projectrallus
[13:09] <projectrallus> Oh, thanks, man!
[13:09] <fego> !gender | projectrallus
[13:09] <sandbags> is there a way to have rsync explain why it wants to update a file? I already have -vv
[13:10] <projectrallus> wait, you're a bot?
[13:10] <DJones> projectrallus: ubottu is a bot triggered by people in the channel to give commonly requested information
[13:11] <luke> eeee
[13:11] <smith765> Do anyone know solution to my problem
[13:11] <poire21> I am using 12.04 and the bugs I experience with k750 keyboard are in Nautilus, can only type one letter to skip to files beginning with that letter, and in Google Chat window if you type too fast the cursor jumps to before the letter you just typed. This does not happen when tested under Windows 7
[13:12] <norbert79> smith765: maybe it's a temporary issue... I would go with "apt-get clean all" "apt-get update" as second try
[13:13] <purvesh> can some one help me for ubuntu 12.10 installation on my ultrabook, I am unable to view installation type ?
[13:13] <smith765> but I am having this problem for more than two weeks, I have changed my ubuntu many times
[13:16] <projectrallus> Okay, so I click the DL link that says "run Ubuntu alongside it"?
[13:16] <projectrallus> there's a ton of DL links
[13:18] <Fuzzles> anyone know how to get blacklight retrubution working in wine?
[13:19] <norbert79> Fuzzles: I think http://www.winehq.org might be a better help :)
[13:20] <norbert79> Fuzzles: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=13983 - You might want to run winetricks before you install the game. apt-get install winetricks. Use it for installing directX and Visual C runtime
[13:21] <brun0> when i exit from a "ssh -X" session the processes that i created keep running in background ?
[13:21] <norbert79> brun0: Depends. If you have ran it with "nohup" then they stay, but I would recommend using "screen" or "tmux"
[13:21] <Fuzzles> norbert79, so use the winetricks direct x and visual c instead of what comes with the game?
[13:21] <norbert79> brun0: So you can always return to their display
[13:21] <norbert79> Fuzzles: You can use those too...
[13:22] <norbert79> Fuzzles: Never tried the game, I just give the advice from past experience
[13:22] <Fuzzles> norbert79, ok thanks what is winetricks exactly? like a front end for wine like playonlinux?
[13:22] <norbert79> Fuzzles: Similar, yes, a bit older, and more limited, but helps sometimes
[13:23] <Fuzzles> norbert79, ok thanks hopefully wine will make a big breakthrough sometime soon to hel alot of ppl like me haha
[13:23] <louiemat> #pinguyOS
[13:23] <brun0> norbert79: cool. i'm using screen with byobu ;-)
[13:23] <norbert79> Fuzzles: It already went a great way, you couldn't imagine how hard it was before 1.0 :)
[13:24] <norbert79> brun0: tmux is a bit better imho, provides more features and uses more "eye-candy"... I would give both a try. Screen uses Ctrl-a, tmux: Ctrl-b
[13:24] <Fuzzles> norbert79, you have a good point :) is it always best to sue the latiest dev version of wine?
[13:24] <norbert79> both use Ctrl-a or b and ? for generic help, but you can remap the key-shortcut to something else
[13:24] <norbert79> Fuzzles: I do so
[13:25] <norbert79> Fuzzles: Sometimes it 'breaks' things though
[13:25] <norbert79> Fuzzles: But works ok for me more often
[13:25] <amoeba> Hey guys. I've just installed 12.10, but it doesn't load without the boot parameter libata.atapi_passthru16=0. How can I set this? I've tried doing it from the live USB that I used for installing, by selecting 'Try Ubuntu...', adding the parameter to /etc/default/grub, but when I run update-grub, I get 'error: failed to get canonical path of /cow'.
[13:25] <Fuzzles> norbert79, ok thanks if i can get some of my games working on ubuntu i would gladly get rid of my windows partision
[13:25] <norbert79> Fuzzles: Like earlier, before 1.3 I couldn't run Heroes of Might and Magic III with directX+Wine through network, now it works great
[13:26] <norbert79> amoeba: You want to update the files in /etc/grub.d
[13:27] <norbert79> amoeba: And then do update-grup
[13:27] <norbert79> use the last file for your changes, I think it could fit there, but let me check Google for a bit
[13:27] <Fuzzles> norbert79, did it take much tweaking?
[13:28] <brun0> exit
[13:28] <norbert79> Fuzzles: HoMM3? No, I had to install DirectX for DirectPlay8 with winetricks and then it started working.
[13:28] <norbert79> amoeba:  /etc/default/grub edit this file, add your kernel parameter at the end
[13:29] <Fuzzles> norbert79, cool well done :)
[13:29] <norbert79> amoeba: sudo update-grub after it
[13:29] <amoeba> norbert79: when i do sudo update-grub i get 'error: failed to get canonical path of /cow'
[13:29] <norbert79> amoeba: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" you mkight want to look for a similar line
[13:29] <norbert79> ehm, /cow?
[13:29] <norbert79> how did that get there?
[13:30] <amoeba> norbert79: no idea!
[13:30] <norbert79> amoeba: You might want to check all files, like grub config and the contents in /etc/grub
[13:30] <amoeba> norbert79: someone seemed to have a similar problem, but the solution eludes me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/207663/cannot-update-grub-with-paramters-on-live-usb
[13:30] <norbert79> and /etc/default/grub
[13:31] <norbert79> amoeba: Oh, not a generic installed system, but liveUSB... huhh, no idea there
[13:31] <norbert79> amoeba: Anyway, try this: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[13:31] <norbert79> as offered
[13:32] <amoeba> norbert79: i tried that, it failed on the second step ('sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev'), complaining that /mnt/dev didn't exist
[13:33] <mr_daniel> Some seconds ago I installed "aptitude install nginx", but why is 'stat' telling me that a config-file was modified 2012-03-39, so many months ago?
[13:33] <mr_daniel> I mean the file /etc/nginx/sites-available/default, this is the stat: http://pastebin.com/uVFPTBKY
[13:33] <mr_daniel> The file was just created, so how the Modified (mtime) can be so old?
[13:33] <mr_daniel> I thought, that when a file is created, atime = mtime = ctime = NOW
[13:33] <mr_daniel> but it seems like it is not? I am confused right now
[13:33] <norbert79> mr_daniel: Nope, since it was unpacked from a package
[13:33] <dr_willis> i dident think the live usb setup used grub. but used syslunyx
[13:34] <dr_willis> syslinux
[13:34] <norbert79> dr_willis: No idea there really
[13:35] <norbert79> mr_daniel: If you create a ZIP or a tar.gz and compress your old files there, so when you depack them they are created with their packed times
[13:35] <gaetano_> #ubuntustudio
[13:36] <llutz> mr_daniel: the file you refer is not created a few seconds ago, it was just copied from deb-archive
[13:36] <mr_daniel> norbert79: isn't that a security problem, so linux is 'forgiving' with packaged files and accepts every ctime it is given? an attacker, for example could upload a PHP-Shell and set the ctime to an arbitrary value, which makes detecting just files very hard
[13:37] <mr_daniel> In my opinion ctime should be bound and set according to the local filesystem, and not taken from files from a package etc.
[13:37] <llutz> mr_daniel: you realise that ctime != creation time?
[13:38] <mr_daniel> no, ctime = "last time chen metadata of file changed, e.g. after chown or chmod etc."
[13:38] <mr_daniel> but for me ctime has some sort of security feature, because it can't be manipulated by "touch", but is managed by the file system
[13:39] <mr_daniel> well, I though it can't be manipulated, but it seems like the ctime from a file in a package is silently taken as correct
[13:39] <Watertoast> hello
[13:40] <norbert79> mr_daniel: Don't you think, that the actions you have just listed need some quite exclusive knowledge and skills? :)
[13:40] <norbert79> so a file creation time at that point isn't interesting anymore
[13:40] <mr_daniel> oh wait a minute... here is the link again: http://pastebin.com/uVFPTBKY
[13:40] <Watertoast> i left my notebook closed for a few hours and when i open it the screen doesn't activate
[13:40] <mr_daniel> ctime is fine and good as I expected it, it is
[13:41] <mr_daniel> mtime that is set to past, well, I am fine with it because it can be set with "touch" either
[13:41] <mr_daniel> ok, the world is ok again :)
[13:41] <llutz> norbert79: there is no "file creation time " on ext-fs (yet)
[13:41] <Watertoast> can  somebody help me?
[13:42] <mr_daniel> Watertoast: is the battery empty?
[13:43] <Watertoast> mr_daniel: np
[13:43] <Watertoast> *no
[13:43] <mr_daniel> Watertoast: there are some hard things, like Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart the xerver
[13:43] <mr_daniel> but this will kill the desktop session and all operned docs are lost
[13:44] <norbert79> mr_daniel: I wouldn't recommend it, and it's disabled default
[13:44] <mr_daniel> Watertoast: maybe you could switch through displayes with Ctrl+Alt+{1,2,3,4,5,6,7}
[13:44] <norbert79> mr_daniel: Yes, that's more a trick...
[13:44] <mr_daniel> or the combination is another one, not sure if it is Ctr+Alt+Num
[13:44] <norbert79> Watertoast: Are you sure everything else works, just your GUI not?
[13:44] <Watertoast> mr_daniel: ctrl+alt+number does not do anything
[13:45] <Watertoast> norbert79: the diplay is off and doesn't turn back on
[13:45] <mr_daniel> Watertoast: you don't have a ssh-server running on laptop maybe?
[13:45] <Watertoast> yes
[13:45] <mr_daniel> thats *fantastic*!
[13:45] <norbert79> mr_daniel: He meant no...
[13:45] <mr_daniel> you could login remotly
[13:45] <Watertoast> and kill the x server?
[13:46] <JValentin|VWC> server edition question: I'm thinking of getting a vps and ubuntu is one of the options. Anyone know pros and cons? Is it as secure and fase as centos?
[13:46] <norbert79> or maybe he indeed has SSH running... Killing X server is a way, but you lose everything running
[13:46] <mr_daniel> Watertoast: well, don't kill xserver if there are important documents open that are not saved
[13:46] <dr_willis> word processor autosave feature.... a life saver. when it works.
[13:46] <mr_daniel> dr_willis: :)
[13:47] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: The question is wrong. This depends on what you need. If you need for example Debian based layout, it's as good as a plain Debian. The pro: has good debian support, has canonical behind it, things work good, is prepared for server usage.
[13:47] <Ubunewb> Hello there, I have photographed a long document page by page, and now I want to put those single jpgs into one pdf file. What program should I use?
[13:47] <mr_daniel> ssh-login is good, but I also don't know exactly what to do with it. I only know the strategy "kill the xserver", but this is no real solution
[13:47] <dr_willis> the apps could be dead allready also.
[13:47] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: But for server use it's not the phiolosphy deciding, but the applications and middleware you want to run on them
[13:47] <norbert79> Ubunewb: For example LibreOffice
[13:48] <dr_willis> Ubunewb: as text or big images?
[13:48] <JValentin|VWC> actually, this is for a vps web server, so I don't think I'll need libreoffice
[13:48] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: LibreOffice was meant for Ubunewb
[13:48] <daviddoria> Are the video driver settings specific to a user? That is, I have the video driver+settings setup how I want them. Now I want to try a different driver, but be able to "fall back" on the current setup. If I create a new user, can I play around and change things and not make them effect the first user? Or since everything is done at a "system level" (with sudo) is that not the case?
[13:48] <Ubunewb> dr_willis: big images, since its hand written
[13:48] <JValentin|VWC> I mostly need svn, git and other such tools
[13:48] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: VPS server: it's fine, but as every other server it needs configuring as of course. I would use the alternative installer so you can minimaize the used space.
[13:48] <dr_willis> daviddoria: drivers are not user specific
[13:49] <Ubunewb> norbert79: which program out of the package?
[13:49] <norbert79> Ubunewb: Writer
[13:49] <daviddoria> dr_willis, ok, so then there is no way to do what I'm suggesting?
[13:49] <norbert79> Ubunewb: Make the page re-set to no margins, and you can then stretch all scanned pages to maximum size
[13:49] <Ubunewb> norbert 79: just insert jpgs and export as pdf? will it come out good?
[13:49] <norbert79> Ubunewb: Well, got any other better idea? :)
[13:49] <JValentin|VWC> norbert79:  I'm going to be running drupal and magento apps, is there any concern with requirements of those? Mostly performance is my concern
[13:50] <llutz> Ubunewb: "convert *.jpg foo.pdf"
[13:50] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: I doubt, that you would see any performance issues
[13:50] <dr_willis> daviddoria: not that i know if.
[13:50] <JValentin|VWC> also some kind of control panel
[13:50] <JValentin|VWC> I understtand there's webmin
[13:50] <norbert79> llutz: That needs imagemagick, Libreoffice is installed as default
[13:50] <VLanZ> i've a problem with compiz on 12.10. Apparently i cannot change the duration of the "mninimize effect". Could anyone please acknowledge?
[13:50] <Ubunewb> llutz: is that imagemag...ok, forget it, but can it convert a lot of jpgs into one single pdf too?
[13:50] <JValentin|VWC> not sure if it has what I need, like domain and email management
[13:50] <llutz> Ubunewb: it can
[13:51] <daviddoria> dr_willis, ok I figured as much, thanks
[13:51] <Ubunewb> norbert79: I only got openoffice installed, so I would have to update it into libre as well
[13:51] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: Use what it's the easiest to use for you... I would have no issues with any server ditribution, but you might bump into issues.
[13:51] <norbert79> Ubunewb: OpenOffice is fine too
[13:52] <Ubunewb> somehow imagemagick is preinstalled here too
[13:52] <JValentin|VWC> I have worked with only centos via ssh, but keep an ubuntu desktop machine
[13:52] <norbert79> Ubunewb: Well, there you go then
[13:52] <dr_willis> VLanZ:  saw some new tweak tool at webupd8 or omgubuntu websites last week that could do that and more. i forget the name. :-(
[13:52] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: Different philosophy for some packages, and layout, but works as easy as CentOS
[13:52] <Ubunewb> norbert79: llutz: Thanks you too, I will try it
[13:52] <Ubunewb> two*
[13:53] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: So no differences really, only for specific applications like Lotus Notes, Oracle DB or other Enterprise related tools
[13:53] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: the last two are mostly supported with RedHat ES/CentOS/Scientific OS
[13:53] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: just make sure you configure it well, set firewall rules ok, limit SSH access, etc
[13:53] <user2> ive got a stupid question, how do i run additional drivers (jockey)
[13:54] <JValentin|VWC> I understand that my l old favorite cpanel, is only for centos, but I guess I can get used to some of the others
[13:54] <user2> ive got it on my dash bar and it has a locked symbol on the icon, ive tried sudo jockey in terminal, and it cant find the command
[13:54] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: You might want to review this document later on too: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/securing-debian-howto.en.pdf - Many of these things written here applies to Ubuntu too
[13:54] <ThinkT510> user2: are you on 12.10?
[13:55] <user2> 12.04 LTS
[13:55] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: And you could check this too: http://debian-handbook.info/
[13:55] <ThinkT510> user2: gksudo jockey-gtk
[13:55] <JValentin|VWC> ok, thx
[13:55] <JValentin|VWC> I'll look at those
[13:55] <eamon> can somebody help? my computer won't boot. I let a program change registry settings. all i have is an ubuntu live CD. this just flashes on the screen before shutting down http://i.imgur.com/1iZmX.jpg . the program has an option to revert the changes, how would I use ubuntu to open it and revert the changes? This is the program http://www.resplendence.com/sanity_features.htm
[13:56] <norbert79> JValentin|VWC: http://debian-handbook.info/download/stable/debian-handbook.pdf - As direct-link
[13:56] <JValentin|VWC> I everyone's advice
[13:56] <user2> RANDR is missing
[13:57] <norbert79> eamon: I think it's F8 you are looking for. You should press F8 before windows boots, and select: restore last working settings
[13:57] <norbert79> eamon: Yet I also should remind you this is not Helpdesk, but Ubuntu Helpdesk for Ubuntu related problems :)
[13:58] <ctrl> hi all!
[13:58] <eamon> norbert79: F8 doesn't work on my computer, I always had to ge into msconfig and select boot in safe mode, then restart.
[13:59] <norbert79> eamon: Well, use your Windows Installer DVD and use the rescue mode... I think Microsoft support would be glad to help you out
[13:59] <ctrl> anybody tried install ofed in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[13:59] <ctrl> im talking about infiniband support :)
[13:59] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[13:59] <eamon> norbert79: I did that already and it didn't work.
[13:59] <Wiz_KeeD> is there a tool for ubuntu 12.04 LTS to analyze the headers of incomming mails through thunderbird?
[13:59] <user2> thinkt510: it says extension RANDR is missing on my display
[13:59] <norbert79> eamon: Well, Microsoft support is left for you
[14:00] <user2> i dont think im usind randr
[14:00] <ThinkT510> user2: sorry, i can't help
[14:00] <chucktewks> mornin - all - quick question - i'm getting a red "!" thats telling me one or more of my software sources are out of date - what's the apt command to update that list?  there are no errors seen in the GUI utility
[14:01] <ikonia> chucktewks: sudo apt-get update
[14:01] <user2> thanks Think510 for your help still
[14:01] <justus> is there a dedicated help channel for wine related questions?
[14:01] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[14:01] <DJones> !wine | justus
[14:01] <ThinkT510> justus: #winwhq
[14:01] <chucktewks> ikonia, thanks
[14:01] <ikonia> justus: #winehq
[14:02] <norbert79> justus: http://www.winehq.org/irc
[14:02] <TheLordOfTime> Wiz_KeeD, you may need a thunderbird addon, but tha'ts not Ubuntu's purview
[14:02] <ctrl> hey! anybody tried install ofed in 12.10?
[14:02] <Ubunewb> IIutz: Thanks, imagemagick worked great!
[14:02] <norbert79> ctrl: No
[14:02] <TheLordOfTime> Wiz_KeeD, i'd check with the Thunderbird people on irc.mozilla.org and check there.
[14:02] <Blacklite_> where is my conky config in ubuntu 12.10
[14:03] <norbert79> Blacklite_: man conky
[14:03] <ThinkT510> Blacklite_: the default used is /etc/conky/conky.conf
[14:04] <chucktewks> ikonia, is there a way to actually recreate that list
[14:04] <ikonia> chucktewks: what list ?
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm connection refused, i don't really care they come through thunderbird i just want to analyze the headers TheLordOfTime
[14:11] <santosh__> hello
[14:12] <T-DeskTop> hello
[14:12] <santosh__> i have a problem in ubuntu 12.10. My right click doesnt work in desktop, but works in normally in file manager part
[14:12] <santosh__> i have a problem in ubuntu 12.10. My right click doesnt work in desktop, but works in normally in file manager part1
[14:12] <TheLordOfTime> Wiz_KeeD, i don't know any type of software in Ubuntu to do that.  whats your goal with that?
[14:13] <santosh__> right to click to create folder or change background like dat
[14:13] <Wiz_KeeD> i have a opensource platform that mimics a crm helpdesk solution and it uses some headers to identify which email belong to which ticket, apparently sending from mobile devices and smartphones doesn't work, so i need to find out why, what's getting lost
[14:16] <Haunt_House> ok, so after 90 minutes I got win7 and ubuntu12 to ping each other. now ubuntu claims that the sharing service is not installed. Do I need that or is it optional?
[14:17] <dr_willis> samba does wundows shares Haunt_House
[14:18] <dr_willis> !samba
[14:18] <Haunt_House> ah, ok
[14:18] <zykotick9> Haunt_House: fyi saying "ubuntu12" isn't really specific enough.  there is an ubuntu 12.04 and a 12.10...
[14:18] <Haunt_House> 12.04
[14:20] <justus> grub-update doesn't find all the bootloaders in my system, how can I force it to use one I know to be there?
[14:20] <e01> how can i start apache2 on ubuntu 11.10 as root
[14:21] <Robbilie> with sudo? :D
[14:22] <dr_willis> e01: why do you need to?
[14:22] <ikonia> e01: it will seperate to be owned by root
[14:22] <ikonia> e01: the controlling process is owned by root, it's called privilege seperation
[14:22] <dr_willis> sudo service servicename start
[14:22] <zykotick9> e01: fyi, apache STARTS as root, then properly drops to another user
[14:22] <purvesh> can some one help me for ubuntu 12.10 installation on my ultrabook, I am unable to view installation type ?
[14:22] <e01> dr_willis: because i use my personal laptop for my needs in separatated network
[14:22] <ikonia> e01: that still doesn't mean you need to run it as root
[14:23] <e01> and i am tired and always have problem with setuping access to folders for vhosts
[14:23] <ikonia> e01: again, that won't change running it as root
[14:23] <ikonia> e01: the internal apache permissions will still need setting up
[14:24] <e01> damn... i spent 3hours just to understand why i get 403 :( and still can't
[14:24] <e01> directory has permission 777
[14:24] <ikonia> e01: I suggest you start learning how to use apache rather than trying to run it as root which will make no difference to your permission problems
[14:25] <e01> okay i promise i will
[14:25] <ikonia> don't have to promise, I don't care if you do or don't
[14:25] <e01> but i have to do my current task now
[14:25] <dr_willis> cant too open of permissions trigger security features.?
[14:25] <ikonia> dr_willis: only on things like appamour/selinux
[14:25] <e01> so, any idea how to give apache full permission to read whatever it have
[14:25] <ikonia> dr_willis: apache internally dosn't care
[14:25] <ikonia> e01: what user is apache being run as ?
[14:25] <e01> www-data
[14:26] <ikonia> e01: where is the document root
[14:26] <e01>  at /home/e01/Projects/www/p1
[14:26] <ikonia> e01: what is the permissions of /home/e01/Projects/www/p1
[14:26] <e01> drwxrwxrwx
[14:26] <ikonia> e01: and of /home/e01/Projects
[14:27] <e01> same
[14:27] <ikonia> e01: and of /home/e01/
[14:27] <e01> 755
[14:27] <ikonia> e01: and of /home/
[14:27] <e01> 755
[14:27] <ikonia> e01: ok, so from a file system perspective, your permissions should be fine for the apache daemon to read the files
[14:27] <ikonia> e01: so the problem will be the internal apache permissions/rules
[14:28] <UICTamale> Am I supposed to be using compiz with ubuntu 12.10 ?
[14:28] <e01> ikonia: i know that rights are fine, taht is reason i ask how to run as root or superman or batman
[14:28] <jrib> heh...
[14:28] <e01> ikonia: but i still get an error  pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable
[14:28] <ikonia> e01: running as root won't change anything
[14:29] <ikonia> e01: that is a totally different error than the 403 you specificed a minute ago
[14:29] <ikonia> e01: what's the actual problem you are trying to resolve
[14:29] <e01> in every forum or tut that i was reading, everybody suggest to giving a 777
[14:29] <e01> and how this will change the life
[14:29] <e01> hm
[14:29] <ikonia> please stop quoting file permissions, they are fine
[14:29] <ikonia> ok, I'm bored of you now
[14:29] <ikonia> good luck
[14:29] <ikonia> e01: tell me the problem you are trying to resolve
[14:30] <e01> ikonia: access the root directory for vhost
[14:30] <e01> and stop gettin 403
[14:30] <ikonia> e01: not interested,
[14:31] <ikonia> you keep changing things in your information, so I suggest asking others in here or the #httpd channel
[14:31] <UICTamale>  Anyone familiar with state of ATI drivers on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[14:31] <ikonia> UICTamale: in what respect "the state"
[14:32] <mneptok> UICTamale: fglrx or radeon?
[14:32] <UICTamale> ikonia: Well, I'll start with my own observation - after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10, using the open source radeon driver both times, I went from a very responsive and fluid compiz / unity desktop to a very unresponsive / buggy compiz/unity desktop
[14:33] <UICTamale> So, I'm curious if I should try the fglrx drivers instead
[14:33] <UICTamale> because maybe there's a known issue with the new kernel and the open source radeon drivers
[14:33] <snikker|2> is possible to use grub2 in dual boot (lin+win) without install grub2 also on the second disk?
[14:33] <ThinkT510> UICTamale: works fine for me
[14:33] <ikonia> UICTamale: well, the fglrx are provided by ati/amd, so the "state" of them is in the hands/control of ati/amd and how well they support the card you use
[14:34] <UICTamale> Sorry, state was a poor choice of words
[14:34] <UICTamale> I simply mean is there a recommendation to go along with 12.10
[14:34] <ikonia> UICTamale: depends on the card and the functionality you want
[14:34] <UICTamale> ThinkT510: Which ATI card do you have?
[14:34] <mneptok> UICTamale: you could always sit on 12.04, since you know your hardware works well with it.
[14:34] <moosec> Has anyone setup ISPconfig3 on Ubuntu Server 12.10?
[14:34] <UICTamale> mneptok: I'm wishing I had :(
[14:34] <iceroot> snikker|2: yes
[14:34] <UICTamale> mneptok: Unfortunately, I've never successfully rolled back to a previous version of ubuntu
[14:35] <iceroot> !anyone | moosec
[14:35] <purvesh> snikker|2, hey can you help me for installing ubuntu if you have idea about 2 hard disk?
[14:35] <ikonia> UICTamale: because you can't roll back
[14:35] <mneptok> UICTamale: because rollbacks are nigh impossible
[14:35] <ceva> can anyone recommend a good fxp client for 12.10 ?
[14:35] <snikker|2> iceroot: how? i've tried but doesn't work
[14:35] <UICTamale> Right, and thus, why I'm here now
[14:35] <dr_willis> snikker|2: grub just needs to be on the hd you are booting from. normally.
[14:35] <iceroot> !details | snikker|2
[14:35] <mneptok> UICTamale: you could also try a DE that doesn't require compositing.
[14:35] <iceroot> snikker|2: as dr_willis says
[14:35] <ThinkT510> UICTamale: radeon hd 6320
[14:36] <UICTamale> ThinkT510: Thanks
[14:36] <dr_willis> snikker|2: i use a 2 hd setup. grub is on sdb for me
[14:36] <IdleOne> snikker|2: you usually install grub to the first drive which is normally /dev/sda
[14:36] <ceva> Should I be in a different channel ?
[14:36] <Forty-3> does anyone here speak spanish?  I have a user I can't communicate with effectively
[14:36] <dr_willis> linux is all on sdb. windows is all on sda
[14:36] <UICTamale> Is anyone here using 12.10 and fglrx?
[14:36] <IdleOne> !es | Forty-3
[14:36] <ikonia> UICTamale: why are you asking that ?
[14:36] <ikonia> UICTamale: what do you expect to get ?
[14:36] <UICTamale> ikonia: Confirmation that it works?
[14:37] <dr_willis> UICTamale: the exact chipset matters
[14:37] <ikonia> UICTamale: did you not read what I said
[14:37] <ikonia> UICTamale: it depends on the card you want, the version you run and the support needs
[14:37] <alabala> Hi,recommend me a good editor,will mainly use for html/php/js & etc.. any idea
[14:37] <ikonia> UICTamale: what are the odds that someone has the same physical card, the same version of the drivers and the same support needs as you
[14:37] <Erik_D> alabala: vim
[14:37] <Erik_D> or gedit
[14:37] <Haunt_House> alabala: I liked geany
[14:37] <dr_willis> alabala: check out geany or vim
[14:37] <UICTamale> Quite good, I'd assume, when there are 1697 people here
[14:37] <ceva> i there a channel for questions about add on application for Ubuntu ?
[14:37] <ikonia> UICTamale: you have to do some leg work yourself, the state/support of the versions is on the ati website,
[14:37] <Erik_D> or even emacs
[14:37] <ikonia> UICTamale: cross-reference that
[14:37] <alabala> thanks guys
[14:38] <purvesh> snikker|2, hmm...
[14:38] <sets88> народ кто знает почему в ip route   src не работает?
[14:38] <mneptok> alabala: jEdit will let you use the same GUI editor on almost any OS. excellent programmer's editor.
[14:38] <UICTamale> ikonia: Are you representative of what the IRC channel has become?  Berate people who come in asking for advice?
[14:38] <ikonia> UICTamale: I'm not berating you
[14:38] <ikonia> UICTamale: I've answered you and explained where to get the basic info
[14:38] <UICTamale> you've done no such thing
[14:38] <moosec> Does anyone know why when installing ispconfig3 you get No PHP MySQL functions available. Please ensure that the PHP MySQL module is loaded when all listed steps in guide were followed
[14:38] <UICTamale> you've essentially told me to google it and gtfo
[14:38] <ikonia> UICTamale: it's actually helping you
[14:39] <alabala> mneptok, thank u :)
[14:39] <ikonia> UICTamale: ???? I've explained that the support of the ati drivers depends on the version and the card and what functions you need support, it's not generic
[14:39] <dr_willis> UICTamale: and your chipset is?
[14:39] <UICTamale> M8900 firepro
[14:39] <snikker|2> dr_willis, iceroot: i'm under 12.10 (fresh install) i've got 2 disk (1 disk with linux and 2 with windows) if i select windows from grub2 menu i've got this error: "A disk read error has occurred Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restrt"if i disconnect linux disk, windows boot fine
[14:39] <ikonia> UICTamale: I've then explained that the ati website documents the versions and which cards the support, so if you cross-reference that you'll get a good idea
[14:39] <ceva> blah
[14:39] <UICTamale> ikonia: You think I don't know that?
[14:39] <UICTamale> ikonia: I come here looking for personal, relatable advice and experiences
[14:39] <ikonia> UICTamale: is there a reason you've not checked it then ?
[14:39] <ikonia> UICTamale: personal experience will depend on a lot of things
[14:40] <UICTamale> I have checked it
[14:40] <UICTamale> I've used them many times in the past
[14:40] <ikonia> UICTamale: ok, so what versions of the drivers support your card
[14:40] <UICTamale> I've been upgrading ubuntu on laptops since breezy badger
[14:40] <ikonia> UICTamale: ok, so what versions of the drivers support your card
[14:40] <ceva> ...
[14:40] <dr_willis> snikker|2: ive seen some mb chipsets swap disks ariund depending on what one is set to boot.
[14:40] <zteam> Hi
[14:41] <sotiris> hi were are you from
[14:41] <zteam> Anybody can help me with VLC everytime I pause a movie the sound get lost
[14:41] <purvesh> snikker|2, i got some nice article maybe it will help you to solve your issue: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/10/10/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-on-a-pc-with-uefi-board-ssd-and-hdd/
[14:41] <dr_willis> snikker|2: windowsboot loader may be looking at the wrong hd. ive not had sych issues
[14:41] <snikker|2> dr_willis: with grub1 all was fine
[14:42] <zteam> sotiris, I'm from seden
[14:42] <sotiris> ειναι κανεις π μιλαει ελληνικα εδω περα εκτος απο εμενα
[14:42] <Pici> !gr
[14:42] <purvesh> zteam, maybe because of less ram it could happened !
[14:42] <snikker|2> dr_willis: uuid of hd is correct
[14:42] <ceva> no one has any advice for methen?
[14:43] <Robbilie> whats your favorite gui for ubuntu? :)
[14:43] <dr_willis> disk read error seems.. weird.
[14:43] <ikonia> !best | Robbilie
[14:43] <zteam> purvesh, Idon't think RAM is the problem, the computer has 4 GB of RAM
[14:43] <purvesh> zteam, ohk...
[14:43] <UICTamale> ikonia: The exact answer is that fglrx drivers don't list support for FirePro cards, and never have
[14:43] <iceroot> snikker|2: maybe the grub entry is trying to boot a windows from the hd where linux is installed
[14:43] <ikonia> UICTamale: ok, so you have your answer then
[14:43] <UICTamale> ikonia: Even when they work
[14:43] <ikonia> UICTamale: they do not support your card
[14:43] <iceroot> snikker|2: and that will end up in a read error
[14:43] <Robbilie> i guess i wont ask a bot for its opinion xD
[14:44] <UICTamale> Geez man, why are you in here?
[14:44] <Robbilie> and i wasnot asking for "best"
[14:44] <JuJuBee> How do I set the open with for an application in unity if the applicatiion is not listed?
[14:44] <ikonia> UICTamale: so your millage with them will be the luck of the draw if there is no official support built in
[14:44] <snikker|2> iceroot: but with the right uuid should find the correct disk...
[14:44] <JuJuBee> I see no way to browse the filesystem  to find it the appropriate app.
[14:44] <ikonia> UICTamale: I wouldn't "depend" on them, I'd consider logging bugs against the problems in the open source ones and pushing to get them resolved
[14:45] <iceroot> snikker|2: yes
[14:45] <iceroot> snikker|2: then i am out of ideas at the moment, sorry
[14:45] <UICTamale> ikonia: Where can I do that?  Ubuntu launchpad?
[14:45] <dr_willis> !bug
[14:45] <snikker|2> iceroot: ok, thank you
[14:45] <ikonia> UICTamale: the open source ones, yes, you can log it in launchpad or depending on where you feel the issue is directly into xorg
[14:46] <moosec> Has anyone been able to get ispconfig3 running in 12.10
[14:46] <ikonia> moosec: just tell us YOUR problem
[14:46] <moosec> I keep getting an error No PHP MySQL functions available. Please ensure that the PHP MySQL module is loaded
[14:47] <dr_willis> !info ispconfig3
[14:47] <ikonia> moosec: have you installed and configured php with mysql support ?
[14:47] <moosec> I have followed the guide oh howtoforge and keep getting this error
[14:47] <e01> ikonia: thanks for the help
[14:47] <moosec> I think so
[14:47] <ceva> Can someone direct me to a channel to get some information on add on applications for unbuntu
[14:47] <ikonia> howtoforge.....that says it all
[14:47] <ikonia> moosec: I wouldn't depend on that guide at all
[14:47] <ikonia> moosec: firstly follow the lamp guide to get php/mysql/apache setup
[14:48] <ikonia> !lamp | moosec
[14:48] <ikonia> moosec: that will give you a good basic platform to try to install it on
[14:48] <moosec> I have done that before
[14:48] <dr_willis> ceva: not sure what you mean by addons
[14:48] <X2_BI> hi guys, one short question, is there a difference between event loops in debug or release version (vs 2008 qt 4.8.3)? Because signals and slots only work in release version -.-
[14:48] <moosec> I will do that again and see if that helps
[14:48] <ceva> im new to ubuntu and I need a good fxp client
[14:48] <moosec> Thanks for the advise
[14:48] <moosec> advice
[14:49] <dr_willis> never heard of fxp.
[14:49] <sotiris> Hmm.can anyone tell me if i can install applications like utorrent in my ubuntu computer?
[14:49] <ikonia> sotiris: sure you can
[14:49] <dr_willis> sotiris: utorrent has a linux port. so yes
[14:50] <dr_willis> sotiris: other torrent clients exist also
[14:50] <sotiris> i download it from the site that i download in windows?
[14:50] <ceva> for windows there is flashfxp.  i need one for ubuntu that allows me to login to 2 servers and xfer data between the servers without having to dl to my pc
[14:50] <ikonia> ceva: you need to see if there is a linux port of it
[14:50] <dr_willis> there are several torrent clients in the repos.
[14:51] <sotiris> thanks a lot :D
[14:51] <sotiris> i mus
[14:51] <sotiris> i havte to go
[14:51] <ceva> ikonia what do you mean
[14:51] <ceva> :/
[14:51] <ikonia> ceva: you need to see if there is a linux version of this application you had in Windows
[14:51] <ikonia> ceva: it's doubtful but worth a look
[14:51] <ceva> i dont need a torrent client
[14:52] <ceva> i checked
[14:52] <ceva> :/
[14:52] <ikonia> ceva: I didn't say you did need a torrent client
[14:52] <ceva> someone else did
[14:52] <ceva> think he was talking tome
[14:52] <ikonia> ceva: I didn't say you did
[14:52] <ikonia> ceva: you are looking fora file transfer client
[14:52] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[14:52] <ikonia> ceva: I said you need to see if htere is a linux version of the windows application you where using
[14:52] <ikonia> ceva: no-one has sad anything about torrents to you,
[14:53] <ceva> dr_willis> there are several torrent clients in the repos.
[14:53] <dr_willis> fxp clients for linux. several google hits...
[14:53] <ceva> thought was to me sorry
[14:53] <ceva> i use transmission
[14:53] <dr_willis> but my pasteing is broke... cant paste the url.
[14:54] <ceva> i tried google but will try harder lol  ty nmuch
[14:54] <dr_willis> http://duncanthrax.net/profxp/
[14:54] <ceva> !
[14:54] <ceva> will check it out :>
[14:54] <ceva> have one more question though
[14:54] <dr_willis> gogled for     linux fxp client     got a dozen hits...
[14:55] <quietschie> hi@all, i've got a problem configuring postfix as satellite. can someone help me please?
[14:55] <ikonia> quietschie: ask the question then
[14:55] <ceva> is it at all possible to get the toolbar moved fromleft to bottom?
[14:55] <dr_willis> apt-cache search fxp      perhaps.
[14:56] <ceva> ok trying now
[14:56] <dr_willis> ceva: unity left side launcher .. not really
[14:56] <ceva> i upgraded to 12.10
[14:57] <ceva> but meh
[14:57] <quietschie> i have a user "user" and an external email-adress my-adress@mail-provider.com, now all the mails i'm trying to send via "mail -s ..." have the sender user@mail-provider.com...but they should have my-adress@mail-provider.com
[14:57] <ikonia> quietschie: thats nothing to do with postfix, that's your mail client
[14:58] <dr_willis> i imagine many ftp clients can do fxp also
[14:59] <quietschie> ikonia, sorry, didn't get that right...if i want to enable my server to send mails i need a smtp server. don't i?
[14:59] <ikonia> quietschie: yes, and postfix is your smtp server and appears to be working fine from what you are saying
[14:59] <bkfitz> Question: is sshd installed by default with ubuntu 12.04 or do i need to install openssh
[14:59] <moosec> ikonia would you think that ISPconfig is a good tool or do you think that there is something better to try and get running
[14:59] <ikonia> bkfitz: normally installed by default
[15:00] <bkfitz> ikonia: do I need to enable it?
[15:00] <ikonia> moosec: I think it's poor, I think all those tools are poor and too generic to be considered a secure platform
[15:00] <ikonia> bkfitz: shouldn't do
[15:00] <enriq> after adding firmware for alteros wifi, booting is froozen. booting freezes "pcmcia_socket: IO port probe 0x3000 0x7fff
[15:00] <moosec> ikonia what do you recommend then?
[15:00] <quietschie> ikonia: but i don't receive the mails, so where is then the problem, if not in my postfix configurtaion?
[15:00] <ikonia> moosec: I recommend not using them
[15:01] <bkfitz> ikonia: how do i figure out what application has ports opened
[15:01] <ikonia> quietschie: you didn't say you didn't get mails, you said it was sending mails but as the wrong user
[15:01] <ikonia> bkfitz: ssh uses port 22
[15:01] <moosec> ikonia so you think just learn the cli is th best way?
[15:01] <bkfitz> ikonia: i know that
[15:01] <ikonia> moosec: what ever you want
[15:01] <JuJuBee> So is there no easy way to create a custom appliication launcher on the unity "bar" or whatever it is called?
[15:02] <Bijan-E_> hi, i have problems with VCDs in ubuntu 12.04. is there any support for it's filesystem? any hint would be appreciated :D
[15:02] <quietschie> ikonia: which doesn't exist @mail-provider.com, and so is dismissed by the mail-provider, i guess
[15:02] <ikonia> quietschie: right, so that's your client sending the wrong envelope
[15:02] <ikonia> quietschie: not postfix
[15:02] <moosec> has anyone else got any advise about what is the best way to manage multiple domains on a server
[15:03] <fego> ikonia: openssh client is shipped by default with ubuntu, but does it include open-ssh server by default?
[15:03] <zykotick9> Bijan-E_: VCDs are like DVDs, you don't typically "mount" them, you "play" them.
[15:03] <ikonia> fego: I think it does, but I'm not %100,
[15:03] <UICTamale> Well, I have some info I could definitely report... my performance goes from nearly unusable to fluid and snappy if I unplug my external monitor
[15:04] <soman> Hi all. Is any analog of windows' chkdsk utilitie in Ubuntu 12.04 and what should I use to check my hard disk if it is not any?
[15:04] <zykotick9> Bijan-E_: if you have mplayer installed, try "mplayer vcd://1" to play the 1st track
[15:04] <Bijan-E_> zykotick9, tried all of the players. i've got input/output errors. media and optic drive are correct
[15:05] <dr_willis> fego: ssh server not on a default dsktop install
[15:05] <zykotick9> Bijan-E_: I/O errors typically, mean problems with the media/disc
[15:05] <fego> dr_willis: yea thats what i suspected
[15:05] <dr_willis> or drive and lasers.
[15:06] <iceroot> fego: sudo apt-get install openssh-server is needed to have the ssh server
[15:06] <iceroot> fego: only the server version has openssh-server as default (imo)
[15:06] <ikonia> iceroot: thank you
[15:06] <Bijan-E_> zykotick9, yes but also may means kernel problem mounting the filesystems [i have windows on the same pc, no problem]. i was introduced to cdfs which meant to do the job but it's not for kervel 3.x anymore
[15:06] <iceroot> ikonia: np
[15:07] <zykotick9> Bijan-E_: sorry, i don't have any further suggestions for ya.  best of luck.  i've never heard of cdfs before...
[15:07] <dathui> i'm using a dualscreen setup, can i turn out mouse sticking between the screens? rather annoying
[15:09] <dr_willis> dathui: theres a setting for it.. somewhere.   edge resistance  perhaps
[15:09] <dathui> dr_willis, found it, "sticky edges"
[15:09] <dathui> thanks anyhow :)
[15:10] <moosec> dathui it could be that you have 3d enabled I had that issue till I moved it to 2d
[15:10] <dathui> moosec, i turned off "sticky edges" and now it's working fine.
[15:12] <moosec> I am running Gnome3 with the edges enabled set at 2d and all works good for me
[15:12] <dr_willis> its a featurr.
[15:15] <n1> the terminal message: "End your description with an empty line or EOF."
[15:15] <n1> ?
[15:16] <adamgolding> I'm new to linux, trying to run Ubuntu on VMWare Player--how can I improve performance in the GUI?  It's attempting various 'effects' like fade ins and so on that are probably part of why it's so slow for me..
[15:17] <fourq> Ok, why is it that gedit saves a different set of preferencces  if I open it from a terminal oppossed to the GUI?
[15:18] <rumpe1> fourq, open how exactly from terminal?
[15:19] <fourq> rumpe1: if I open sudo gedit <some_file>
[15:19] <zykotick9> !gksudo | fourq
[15:19] <rumpe1> fourq, because you use "sudo" and not "gksudo"
[15:19] <fourq> ahh
[15:19] <fourq> can you explain that?
[15:19] <fourq> ahh ubottu ty
[15:20] <fourq> you guys rule
[15:22] <Jisawesome2> Can you create a server that has multiple uses, such as a webserver and a file server
[15:23] <enriq> how do i boot a 12.10 that refuses to boot after firmware install
[15:23] <Robbilie> http://on.fb.me/SqxBgG & http://bit.ly/TI8Rnq
[15:23] <Erik_D> enriq: super grub disk?
[15:24] <Erik_D> enriq: Unless you messed up your BIOS is what you meant, then you're mostly out of luck...
[15:25] <enriq> Erik_D, no no, all worked fine until altheros firmware...
[15:25] <Erik_D> enriq: What's altheros?
[15:25] <enriq> Erik_D, an old wifi card (in my old notebook)
[15:26] <Erik_D> odd...
[15:26] <Erik_D> hmm
[15:26] <Erik_D> enriq: live cds work?
[15:26] <Erik_D> enriq: it boots otherwise?
[15:26] <Erik_D> enriq: can you diable it in BIOS?
[15:26] <Erik_D> *disable
[15:26] <enriq> Erik_D, it freezes at pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket1: cs: IO port probe 0x3000-0x7fff
[15:27] <enriq> I will try live cd
[15:27] <Jisawesome2> Can you create a server that has multiple uses, such as a webserver and a file server
[15:27] <waqs> can anyone recommend some free games
[15:27] <Erik_D> waqs: TF2
[15:27] <Erik_D> unless you mean linux games :P
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> Jisawesome2  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:28] <Eqbal> Hi there, is there any chance to find a tool to generate init.d scripts ? I have already some ruby processes and wanna start them up by putting scripts to init.d directory, is there any way to do that automatically instead of creating the bash file manually ?
[15:28] <fego> Jisawesome2: offcourse you can multiple services on a server
[15:30] <fego> Jisawesome2: sftp comes bundled with ssg server and you may run apache for a web server
[15:30] <fego> ssh*
[15:31] <IR9768> this channels is only ubuntu based?
[15:31] <IR9768> can i ask something about fedora?
[15:31] <IR9768> wheres the fedora channel?
[15:31] <gustav__> There's a #linux channel.
[15:31] <zykotick9> !alis | IR9768
[15:31] <gordonjcp> IR9768: take a guess
[15:31] <Jisawesome2> fego, how is it I go about creating a file server?
[15:31] <Jisawesome2> !FILESERVER
[15:31] <gordonjcp> IR9768: how did you find the Ubuntu channel?
[15:33] <fego> Jisawesome2: there a good thread about that ,http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1895084
[15:33] <alexey_> irc.debian.org
[15:34] <Jisawesome2> Thanks fego
[15:34] <IR9768> anyone knows of a program that can do all that the dev c++ for windows can do in linux
[15:34] <IR9768> ?
[15:34] <IR9768> u dont know how to compile a .cpp in linux
[15:34] <IR9768> how i do that?
[15:34] <fego> IR9768: build-essential is the package,
[15:35] <IR9768> what it is in that package?
[15:35] <ikonia> IR9768: compilers/build libraries/headers
[15:35] <IR9768> k ty
[15:36] <fego> ircnode0: g++ that will help you compiling C++ progs
[15:36] <IR9768> what are the advantages of ubutu over fedora?
[15:36] <ikonia> IR9768: it's personal choice, nothing more
[15:36] <IR9768> k
[15:36] <IR9768> ty
[15:38] <zizi> hellooo
[15:38] <zizi> can someone help me with a tar.gz file?
[15:39] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, dfefine "help"
[15:39] <fego> zizi: what help?
[15:39] <TheLordOfTime> define*
[15:39] <Garret> hi
[15:40] <zizi> i want to make install but during the ./configure i get an error
[15:40] <zizi> can someone to test it?
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, pastebin the error(s)
[15:40] <dathui> where is the bash history stored?
[15:41] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, note that installing from source (.tar.gz files for example) are not necessarily 100% fully supported here.
[15:41] <dathui> i have a rather long list of commands i want to store in a text file for future use
[15:41] <ThinkT510> zizi: what are you trying to compile?
[15:41] <TheLordOfTime> dathui, ~/.bash_history normally
[15:41] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, and what software are you trying to install?
[15:41] <zykotick9> dathui: ~/.bash_history
[15:41] <stealz> Hi
[15:41] <fego> zizi: installing from tarballs are always messy,instead you can serch the software in software center in your Ubuntu install
[15:41] <zizi> a dymo label printer
[15:41] <dathui> found it, thanks folks
[15:41] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, are you trying to install drivers?
[15:41] <zizi> there is not a ppa for that jov
[15:42] <stealz> I installed xmonad with Ubuntu 12.04, but for some reason the panel on the left with the icons doesnt show up, only the one on top. anyone has any ideas?
[15:42] <zizi> there is not a ppa for that job*
[15:42] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, is there support out of the box?
[15:42] <fego> zizi: device drivers are not needed a separate install, they are embedded in linux kernel,loaded as required
[15:42] <TheLordOfTime> zizi, testing before installing may be prudent, to see if that's the case of out-of-the-box support.
[15:42] <NewWorld> stealz:  better ask on #xmonad
[15:42] <stealz> NewWorld, I am trying, no answer there either, but thanks
[15:43] <zizi> http://www.dymo-label-printers.co.uk/dymo_sdk_linux.html here is the tar.gz
[15:43] <dr_willis> stealz: the unity panel is a compiz plugin.
[15:44] <dr_willis> stealz: you want to use unity with xmonad?
[15:44] <stealz> dr_willis, yes, and I got it to work on another machine, but I cant access that one because its 600km away
[15:44] <stealz> I got the default panels, but the window tiling from xmonad, worked great
[15:44] <adamgolding> I just installed ubuntu for the first time (v 12.10).  How do I disable Unity and enable a more lightweight gui?  All the instructions I find refer to options that are no longer present in 12.10, apparently
[15:45] <dr_willis> stealz: you may have used unity2d
[15:45] <stealz> dr_willis, I am using unity2d already even on this machine, but the panel wont show :S
[15:45] <dr_willis> adamgolding: just install the other wm or desktop. select it at login screen...
[15:46] <adamgolding> I can't select anything like that at the login screen
[15:46] <adamgolding> I don't see the toolbar they say should be there
[15:46] <zizi> should i paste here what i get?
[15:46] <dr_willis> adamgolding: lubuntu-desktop is nice
[15:46] <jiffe98> are there any ubuntu packages in the repositories that include the mysql ndb engine?
[15:46] <[snake]> adamgolding, you have to install something first. like xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, fluxbox, kde
[15:46] <stealz> I guess I will try redoing the xmonad.hs from scratch, maybe that helps
[15:46] <[snake]> kde is not lightweight though
[15:47] <dr_willis> adamgolding: what did you install?
[15:47] <adamgolding> dr_willis: nothing, this is a fresh install
[15:47] <adamgolding> it's running in vmware player, and I installed the vmware tools, that's all
[15:47] <Vooch> What's the best destop environment to use on ubuntu?  KDE?
[15:47] <adamgolding> ubuntu 12.10 desktop amd64
[15:47] <ikonia> !best | Vooch
[15:47] <dr_willis> adamgolding:  so install lubuntu-desktop perhaps...
[15:47] <Sigfrid91> \server #darth-fansub@recycled
[15:47] <zykotick9> Vooch: the one you like best
[15:48] <[snake]> adamgolding, i'm using something that looks like the old gnome... i forget what it's called though
[15:48] <Vooch> thanks for the tips
[15:48] <adamgolding> dr_willis: how?  I'm totally new to linux here
[15:48] <dr_willis> !manual | adamgolding
[15:49] <chisholm> Vooch: I'm not a big fan of the way the ubuntu gnome desktop has been going, I'm finding KDE works quite well
[15:49] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop      adamgolding
[15:49] <dr_willis> is one way
[15:55] <neodragon> OK I know this is a strange request, but I already have Gentoo with Grub1 installed on my laptop and I am installing Ubuntu on a seperate partition, what would I have to add to the grub menu.list in order to boot Ubuntu from the Gentoo bootloader?
[15:56] <TheLordOfTime> neodragon, let grub autoupdate?
[15:56] <TheLordOfTime> neodragon, there should be a command to force grub  to update and ndetect other OSes.
[15:56] <dr_willis> chain loading grub2 on the ubuntu partion may be the way to go neodragon
[15:58] <neodragon> dr_willis: I was thinking chainloading would be the way to go, what would I put in the grub menu.list to do that
[15:58] <dr_willis> no idea. not used grub1 in years
[15:59] <dr_willis> grub1 docs should show examples
[15:59] <bkfitz> ikonia: so how can i confirm that sshd is installed...
[16:00] <Mandalord> hi, i have a speaker - microphone namely Chat50 ClearOne connected to my laptop using usb. The device is recognised, i used alsamixer to unmute it, but i cannot get it record my voice. Can anyone help me? I'm using Lubuntu 12.10.
[16:00] <ikonia> bkfitz: check in the package manager
[16:00] <ikonia> bkfitz: the package is openssh-server
[16:00] <bkfitz> ikonia: ok thx
[16:01] <neodragon> I found it in the grub documentation
[16:01] <cowsquad> hey folk. I need help. I am trying to boot ubuntu 12.04 and Solaris 11. But I cant find out how to do it. ubuntu grub doesnt show solaris 11. any help?
[16:02] <cowsquad> What a pain in the butt.!!!!
[16:02] <bkfitz> ikonia: apparently it's not installed by default...
[16:02] <bkfitz> ikonia: huh
[16:03] <ikonia> bkfitz: ok, and ?
[16:04] <TheLordOfTime> bkfitz, openssh-server isnt supposed to be installed by default afaik, so what's the problem here?
[16:04] <TheLordOfTime> s/here//
[16:05] <pwnsauce_> hi
[16:05] <TheLordOfTime> bkfitz, once you install openssh-server sshd'll run
[16:05] <Maphrox> Hello.
[16:06] <bkfitz> TheLordOfTime: ok... i wasn't sure and didn't want to install opensshd if some other ssh daemon was already installed
[16:06] <simplew> USB-CREATOR-KDE doesnt work properlly, its impossible to add an .iso to burn, in cli appears: QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No such file or directory
[16:06] <TheLordOfTime> bkfitz, just install openssh-server, it'll install the relevant packages.
[16:06] <pwnsauce_> I installed Hybryde evolution the other day.. And I can't get sound to work.. Could I get some assistance?
[16:06] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, sounds like a bug.
[16:06] <Maphrox> I'm having this issue where the terminal and most things that don't have their own text rendering don't render text.
[16:07] <bkfitz> TheLordOfTime: working great now
[16:07] <Maphrox> Instead, I get the white squares that usually show up when you don't have fonts installed.
[16:07] <simplew> TheLordOfTime: can you try reproduce?
[16:08] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, i'm not on KDE, so no.  Nor am I on an Ubuntu system at this moment.  that does look like a bug, or something's broken, though.  i'm not one to debug that though.
[16:08] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, remember, not everyone here runs every package (if you're using the KDE version, as a Kubuntu user to confirm)
[16:08] <TheLordOfTime> (or file a bug)
[16:08] <Mandalord> hi, i have a speaker - microphone namely Chat50 ClearOne connected to my laptop using usb. The device is recognised, i used alsamixer to unmute it, but i cannot get it record my voice. Can anyone help me? I'm using Lubuntu 12.10.
[16:11] <simplew> TheLordOfTime: usb-creator-kde onnly requires this ->  Depends: python2.7, python (>= 2.7.1-0ubuntu2), python (<< 2.8), usb-creator-common (= 0.2.40ubuntu1), python-kde4, python-qt4-dbus
[16:11] <simplew> TheLordOfTime: i dont see there any kde specific package
[16:12] <[snake]> adamgolding, I finally found it!!
[16:12] <[snake]> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-classic-gnome-desktop-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise.html
[16:12] <adamgolding> oh, cool
[16:12] <[snake]> adamgolding, it's nice, I love using it.
[16:12] <adamgolding> at this point I'm downloading the lubuntu iso
[16:12] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, python-kde4  <-- that pulls in KDE runtime stuff, and qt4 stuff.
[16:12] <simplew> TheLordOfTime: and the same happens in USB-CREATOR-GTK since its the same
[16:13] <[snake]> adamgolding, ... well. If you don't like it. I'm always called [snake] on here. but I might not be on. maybe save the link just in case.
[16:13] <alexfpms_> Hi, i try to make an update and it hangs on: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic
[16:13] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, if its reproducable in all of them, then you hsould still file a bug about it.  that sounds like something is broken in the package, but again i can't test or confirm since i'm not on Ubuntu right now.
[16:13] <alexfpms_> it never finishes; i'm on ubuntu 12.10. how to fix it ?
[16:13] <adamgolding> [snake]:  yeah I bookmarked it
[16:13] <adamgolding> but ubuntu was already so surprisingly slow in VMWare I decided to go for an entirely lightweight version of ubuntu
[16:14] <[snake]> adamgolding, well in that case... lxde is great!
[16:15] <cihhan> Hi all! I have Ubuntu on both host and VM. But their dates are different even though ntp is installed. When I say ntpdate, I get: 6 Nov 16:13:30 ntpdate[17834]: no servers can be used, exiting  Any suggestions?
[16:15] <jhutchins_wk> I can't make heads or tails of the new sudoers manpage.  I need a single user or group to have permission on a specific command with no password.
[16:16] <jhutchins_wk> All the damn examples use ALL and don't say which ALL means what.
[16:17] <fego> !sudo | jhutchins_wk
[16:18] <fego> jhutchins_wk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers     might be a good read
[16:18] <jhutchins_wk> fego: How much you want to bet there isn't one example in there that doesn't use ALL?
[16:19] <jhutchins_wk> Yep, nothing but all.
[16:21] <alexfpms_> i try to make an update and it hangs on: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic ...  it never finishes; i'm on ubuntu 12.10. how to fix it ?
[16:21] <satyam> hi to all
[16:22] <satyam> i install
[16:22] <satyam>  ubuntu 12.10
[16:22] <Gosy> !ssh
[16:23] <satyam> how to identify fat32 in ubuntu 12.10
[16:23] <fego> jhutchins_wk: have you tried something like //username ALL= NOPASSWD: command
[16:23] <batee> Hi all, Could you please suggest me a place to download the source code of the "Seccomp Filter"?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> satyam, sudo blkid
[16:24] <satyam> how to install graphic card driver in 12.10
[16:25] <BluesKaj> satyam, which graphics card?
[16:25] <satyam> blueskaj ,nividia optimus
[16:26] <BluesKaj> satyam, install bumblebee
[16:27] <BluesKaj> !optimus
[16:27] <satyam> Blueskaj, i actually  have 750 gb harddisk
[16:27] <jhutchins_wk> fego: What's the // for?
[16:27] <satyam> i partions 6
[16:27] <BluesKaj> !bumblbee
[16:27] <fego> jhutchins_wk: just to indicate that the command starts :)
[16:28] <BluesKaj> !bumblebee
[16:28] <TheLordOfTime> BluesKaj, no dice, those factoids don't exist
[16:28] <TheLordOfTime> BluesKaj, why not suggest factoids :P
[16:28] <palasso> I created a markings file for Synaptic and noticed that if I open it, it won't mark packages that have a blank space before the package name on the text file. Is this normal?
[16:28] <jhutchins_wk> fego: syntax error
[16:28] <alexfpms> i can't update my system; it hangs on update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic ... How to fix it ?
[16:29] <jhutchins_wk> fego: Ok, works without the //
[16:30] <BluesKaj> TheLordOfTime, suggest factoids ??
[16:30] <jhutchins_wk> fego: Except it prompts for password.
[16:30] <fego> jhutchins_wk: you should exclude //
[16:30] <crypticmofo> anyone good with the dd command .. im trying to put a iso onto a usb drive .. im wondering do i need the bs command
[16:31] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, I think I got it.  The command was /sbin/sysctl -w "net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=0".  It works if I remove the quoted arguments.
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> jhutchins_wk, you want to exclude certain commands from needing a sudo password?
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> oops wrong person
[16:32] <fego> jhutchins_wk: are you running any script as a command in the above example?
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> crypticmofo, are you trying to put an Ubuntu ISO onto a USB?
[16:33] <alexfpms> How can i fix update-initramfs ???
[16:37] <fego> jhutchins_wk: sorry i missed out your unhighlighted line above :D
[16:40] <hanning> hi
[16:40] <dinamizador> hola
[16:40] <hanning> is this a correct syntax for an arithmetic if statement?-> $lastrun < ('date +%s' + 10)
[16:40] <jhutchins_wk> TheLordOfTime: Yeah, need to let a user/group use sysctl to turn window scaling on and off.
[16:41] <jhutchins_wk> TheLordOfTime: I can't seem to include the arguments to sysctl in the sudo specification
[16:42] <BEPC> halo
[16:42] <john_doe_jr> when I'm attempting to launch a program…I'm getting the following error message, 'error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'…any body know why?
[16:42] <jaha> Any ideas on why I lost dns resolution all of a sudden on a 10.04 box using network manager in it's default config
[16:43] <jaha> it worked when i first set it up, now.. nothing… cant reach google but i can ping 8.8.8.8
[16:46] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr: what program?
[16:47] <alexfpms> my update-initramfs hangs on Adding module /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/udl/udl.ko ... how can i fix it ?
[16:47] <dr_willis> !find libX11.so
[16:47] <john_doe_jr> dr_willis: fullrecall-linux.bin
[16:47] <fego> hanning: let "lastrun=`date '+%s'` + 10" maybe
[16:48] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  my guess would be it was compiled to use that specific  version and dosent like a newer version of the lib
[16:48] <hanning> looks like that is going to set the var, i just want to compare it inside an if statement
[16:48] <john_doe_jr> the !find http://libX11.so/ is not working on my computer
[16:48] <dr_willis> !find info livx11-6
[16:48] <dr_willis> !find info libx11-6
[16:49] <dr_willis> !info libx11-6
[16:49] <fego> hanning: ((`date '+%s'` + 10)) ?
[16:49] <dr_willis>   the ! commands are bot triggers for here on irc
[16:49] <hanning> hm
[16:50] <lastleo85> folks, how can i open applications via command line
[16:50] <fego> hanning: can you check something like [ $lastrun -le ((`date '+%s'` + 10)) ]
[16:50] <dr_willis> the command  'locate libX11.so' hsould find the file on your system
[16:51] <dr_willis> lastleo85:  a specific app you mean?
[16:51] <lastleo85> any application dr_willis if you can mention the synta
[16:51] <dr_willis> lastleo85:  just type the name of the executablr
[16:51] <dr_willis> ie:  'gedit' or 'gno,e-terminal'
[16:52] <lastleo85> dr_willis thats it?
[16:52] <dr_willis> lastleo85:  errr.. what more would you expect? ;)
[16:52] <dr_willis> some menu items may not have the same name as the executable.
[16:53] <lastleo85> dr_willis alright, let me try
[16:54] <lastleo85> dr_willis alright, suppose if i wanna open Thunderbird
[16:54] <dr_willis> i dont know the binary name for thunderbird
[16:54] <lastleo85> dr_willis alright, what command will i type?
[16:54] <dr_willis> it may be 'thunderbird'
[16:55] <alexfpms> is somebody can help me please, my update-initramfs hangs on: Adding module /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/udl/udl.ko ... how can i fix it ?
[16:55] <dr_willis> a look at the Thunderbird.desktop' file may show exactly how its being launched
[16:55] <lastleo85> dr_willis alright, thanks!
[16:58] <gaetano_> #blender
[16:59] <pat_ff> hello, i've got a little problem with xubuntu. On my desktop are 2 shortcuts of the same partition of the hdd. How can i delete 1??
[17:00] <Jayflux> hey guys, bit of a noob at this. mount --bind does just what I want, but removes on restart. How can i have that but working when i reboot too?
[17:00] <gaetano_> #blender
[17:01] <akis> although i can run an executable file click on it, if i make a new item in my xubuntu panel this program doesn't start and gives me error:finding bound package/error:initialising projector. why? how can i make it start form my panel button?
[17:01] <dr_willis> Jayflux:  make an entry for it in /etc/fstab is one way
[17:01] <klausl> Hello!
[17:01] <klausl> I have got installation problems with ubuntu.
[17:02] <dr_willis> Jayflux:  why are you using the mount bind featurs anyway/
[17:02] <Jayflux> because my users are in a chrooted enviroment and sym links don't work dr_willis
[17:04] <dr_willis> not sure what the syntax for a mount bind, would be in fstab. alternative way would be putting the ocmmand in rc.local
[17:05] <lastleo85> how can i share my screen to mac?
[17:05] <compdoc> a vnc client
[17:05] <dr_willis> lastleo85:  vnc is one way.
[17:05] <akis> i think that this program is a java one? does this help to solve my issue?
[17:05] <lastleo85> and at the same time avoid lag dr_willis
[17:06] <dr_willis> avoid lag = use x forwarding with ssh to show a  single app on the mac desktop. not the whole ubuntu desktop
[17:06] <dr_willis> theres also freenx, and rdp
[17:07] <cairne> anyone firmiliar with lubuntu?
[17:07] <Mrokii> Hello. That might be a Firefox-specific question, but I'm not sure. For some time now whenever I doubleclick links (to mark them for copying) a small context-menu pops open showing these entries: "Open With Firefox", "Open with Opera", "Send Url", "Open with Mozilla". I think I saw it in other apps than Firefox but I'm not sure. Does anybody know where this is coming from? I can't remember installing an
[17:07] <Mrokii> extension that does something like that. Plus, it wouldn't make sense for a Firefox-extension to show an entry to open a url with the browser the url was marked in...
[17:07] <dr_willis> cairne:  its very popular.. so just ask the question
[17:08] <cairne> how come whenever I am asked to upgrade, usually a kernal upgrade, it breaks grub and I have to do the boot repair each time with the live cd
[17:09] <nemik> is there some way to list currently connected printers from the command line?
[17:09] <cairne> not so much of an annoyance for me, but I want to set up lubuntu on a friends computer to breather new life into it and I know they will not be able to handle fixing it each time
[17:09] <dr_willis> nemik:  theres various lp* commands
[17:09] <dr_willis> cairne:  i dont have that issue on lubuntu here
[17:10] <dr_willis> cairne:  what specifically breaks with grub?
[17:10] <cairne> dr_willis: it just will boot into grub recovery, and only way to get into lubuntu or windows is using the live cd again and repairing the boot
[17:10] <dr_willis> it just may be a quirk/issue on your machine. not theirs
[17:11] <cairne> well thats good to know, it is a fairly bad laptop hence having to use lubuntu not regular ubuntu on it
[17:11] <whiskey_> ciao a tutti
[17:11] <whiskey_> qualche italiano?
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> !it
[17:11] <lastleo85> freeNX works on MAC? dr_willis
[17:11] <nemik> dr_willis: ah thanks, i'll look into those.
[17:11] <dr_willis> lastleo85:  no idea. i wont touch a mac
[17:12] <nemik> btw dr_willis what method would you recommend for printing from the command line, like a large full-sized JPG. lpr?
[17:12] <becom33> Im having this few dual screen . im having twin screen and my VGA is nVidia . but when I turn on full screen and and I do something on the other screen it comes back to the normal screen
[17:12] <lastleo85> same here but i got it as GIFT  dr_willis
[17:12] <becom33> new dual *
[17:13] <usuario> qien es flod bot?
[17:13] <dr_willis> nemik:  not needed to do somthing like that in years. so no idea
[17:13] <usuario> me llama la atencion siempre esta aki
[17:13] <nemik> dr_willis: np, seems lp will do that fine
[17:14] <becom33> anyone for me ?
[17:14] <dr_willis> becom33:  its a little confuseing what you said.
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> !es
[17:15] <dr_willis> with some apps on nvidia twinview if i fullscreen firefor/flash and click on the other desktop it will unfullscreen.. due to how flash is written
[17:15] <dr_willis> other apps might fullscreen to the wrong  monitor. again i recall firefox doing this
[17:16] <dr_willis> but chromium-browser did not
[17:16] <becom33> dr_willis, Im having two screens . but when I put on screen on full screen . for a example movie . and when I start to do somthing on the other screen the full screen player turns back to normal size
[17:16] <mregg1> Hi all -- is there a way to duplicate a python install w/ all its dependencies from one machine to another? (I realize this sounds a little wierd...)
[17:16] <dr_willis> becom33:  what movie player?
[17:16] <nemik> mregg1: look into virtual-env for python
[17:17] <becom33> dr_willis, well VLC . but its not just vlc . also flash player and vmware full screen also exits
[17:17] <dr_willis> vlc worked fine for me last i tried it with twinview.
[17:18] <zivester> has anyone ever seen a cursor appear but the login prompt never appear? like the mouse moves but nothing is going on... Ctrl+F1-6 allow me to switch to other ttys fine, but where is the login?
[17:18] <zivester> and by cursor, I mean the arrow
[17:18] <dr_willis> zivester:  if the login manager hung, that would look somthing like that.
[17:18] <becom33> dr_willis, so why do u think am I having that problem :/
[17:19] <dr_willis> zivester:  try 'sudo service lightdm stop' then 'startx' at the conosle
[17:19] <zivester> it happens 50% of the time... the other 50% it works fine... is there anyway to figure out what is going on? this is a fresh install of 12.10
[17:19] <zivester> on xubuntu, if that matters
[17:19] <dr_willis> becom33:  some apps dont play nicely with multimonitors/twinview/xinerams
[17:19] <g0bl1n> I'm trying to add a printer but the Add button is disabled. Inserting an address, can't seem to advance. Any hints ?
[17:20] <g0bl1n> network printer
[17:20] <becom33> dr_willis, what I notised is my side menu thing . the dork thing comes to the front on when I do somthing on the other screen
[17:20] <dr_willis> becom33:  ive only noticed it with flash videos (even on windows) and a few apps.
[17:20] <dr_willis> g0bl1n:  try the cups web interface perhaps.  http://127.0.0.1:631
[17:21] <g0bl1n> good one dr_willis ;-)
[17:22] <dr_willis> i never use the gui config tools for cups ;)
[17:22] <wbf> dr_ you also helped me I was looking for cups too :D
[17:22] <klausl> Hello!
[17:22] <klausl> Is here anyone?
[17:22] <dr_willis> cups ia amazeing. ;)
[17:23] <klausl> dr_willis: Hello!#
[17:23] <dr_willis> klausl:  what if 1000 people say no. ;)
[17:23] <klausl> dr_willis:Please help me!
[17:23] <dr_willis> !ask
[17:23] <wbf> klausl what's your problem?
[17:23] <klausl> ubottu: Are you a supporter?
[17:24] <klausl> wbf: Are you a supporter?
[17:24] <klausl> wbf: Because I will need a supporter.
[17:24] <dr_willis> klausl:  state the question.......
[17:24] <klausl> I can`t install Ubuntu.
[17:24] <klausl> The Installation fails.
[17:24] <klausl> error.
[17:24] <wbf> With what error?
[17:25] <klausl> wbf: I can`t install it.
[17:25] <wbf> It says you cant?
[17:25] <klausl> wbf: I mean I can`t boot.
[17:26] <wbf> Oh
[17:26] <klausl> wbf: I can`t  boot from my Hard drive.
[17:26] <klausl> wbf: It says.
[17:26] <wbf> Really?
[17:26] <dr_willis> cant boot the cd? usb? dvd? cant boot after you install?
[17:26] <wbf> Is this a fresh install or a non-fresh install?
[17:26] <klausl> wbf: Windows 7 is on.
[17:27] <klausl> wbf: On the c hard drive.
[17:27] <cuddylier> Why when I go to myaddress/phpmyadmin does it say the page is not found? http://survival.spartanmc.net/phpmyadmin and it says it's not found, there is nothing about phpmyadmin in my www folder but it is installed correctly, what have I done wrong?
[17:28] <klausl> wbf: Then I install the bootloader from the CD.
[17:28] <wbf> klausl are you trying to install alongside or Over?
[17:28] <Mrokii> Is there a way to set the Gnome Terminal window-title automatically to the app currently running? For example, make it show "weechat" as the title, as soon as I start it?
[17:29] <klausl> wbf: As second os
[17:29] <crackerjackz> does anyone here know anything about truecrypt?
[17:29] <klausl> wbf: On my another hard drive.
[17:29] <wbf> oh klaus as second os?
[17:29] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  the  bash prompt i recall had some ways to do that. but i think it does set the title to weechat here... not on my pc right now so cant check
[17:29] <klausl> wbf: Yes.
[17:29] <dnewkirk> Yes, should be a bash command
[17:29] <clemi> hi guys do you know how to open par2?
[17:30] <dr_willis> clemi:  ived used winrar in wine befor for unusual rar formats.
[17:30] <klausl> wbf: I tried to install it with Sun Virtual Box.
[17:30] <siavoshkc> i do
[17:30] <Mrokii> dr_willis: Thanks, maybe I can find something in regards to the Bash-prompt. Here, all my terminal windows just show "terminal" which is annoying.
[17:30] <wbf> klausl can you boot windows 7?
[17:30] <crackerjackz> should i encrypt the filesystem before or after i install ubuntu?
[17:30] <crackerjackz> i want to encrypt the entire filesystem with 256 bit AES encryption
[17:30] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  i tend to use terminator also. so it may be a different default setting then gnome-shell
[17:30] <clemi> use truecrypt
[17:31] <klausl> wbf: Yes.
[17:31] <clemi> is there something else than winrar
[17:31] <crackerjackz> clemi: 7zip
[17:31] <clemi> klaus sprichst deutsch
[17:31] <clemi> yes have installed it
[17:32] <crackerjackz> clemi: what is it you are trying to accomplish?
[17:32] <abdostar> Guys, I am running ubuntu 12.10, after a system update, I lost wireless connection(I did not tried wired connection) any help
[17:32] <klausl> clemi: Ja!
[17:32] <klausl> clemi!
[17:32] <klausl> Ja!
[17:32] <clemi> crackerjackz i use usenet
[17:32] <klausl> Ich spreche deutsch!!!!!!!!!
[17:32] <wbf> klausl: virtualbox isn't that good of hardware emu anyway... lemme show you how to do it so that ubuntu can boot
[17:32] <Mrokii> dr_willis: I don't use terminator. And I just realised that it may not even work as I want to as I usually start weechat from within "screen", so that may be the title the window will be set to. I'll have to try.
[17:33] <wbf> klausl: have you burnt an install disk yet?
[17:33] <klausl> wbf: Yes!
[17:33] <crackerjackz> clemi: so should i setup truecrypt before or after i install ubuntu?
[17:33] <crackerjackz> i want to encrypt the entire filesystem
[17:33] <SuperDefenderX> Anyone know when Steam for Linux will be released? I heard it was supposed to be released today.
[17:33] <Mrokii> klausl: Notfalls könntest du auch auf #ubuntu-de fragen, falls du hier nicht weiterkommst.
[17:33] <dnewkirk> crackerjackz: you can encrypt after, which may be easier since it will adjuct the boot partition.
[17:33] <Mrokii> SuperDefenderX: The rumour says today.
[17:34] <wbf> klausl: ok then boot your pc off the disk not just virtualbox, I'll tell you how.
[17:34] <dr_willis> Mrokii: that may be why i recall it working by default that way. i dont use screen inside gnome-terminal
[17:34] <klausl> wbf: Moment!
[17:34] <klausl> wbf: I am telling you again.
[17:34] <clemi> doesnt matter just encrypts everything
[17:34] <wbf> klausl: you want only virtualbox?
[17:34] <klausl> wbf: No!
[17:34] <crackerjackz> dnewkirk: should i do anything special or anything i should keep in mind when im creating my partitions?
[17:35] <clemi> cracker may i pm you?
[17:35] <abdostar> Anyone!?, I am running ubuntu 12.10, after a system update, I lost wireless connection(I did not tried wired connection) any help
[17:35] <crackerjackz> clemi: sure
[17:35] <dnewkirk> crackerjackz: No, you should be fine. I'm assuming that you'll encrypt the entire drive, which should be pretty straightforward, if not taking some time. Oh, and make a backup beforehand ;).
[17:36] <pat_ff> klaus: seh ich das richtig, dass du ubuntu neben win7 installiert hast und jetzt bootet es nicht?
[17:36] <wbf> klausl: so you basically want it to really boot off ubuntu and windows 7 as well? 2 hard drives? easy :D all you have to do is go into your pc's BIOS, then change the boot order so cd is first then boot off the cd then install ubuntu alongside windows 7 but on the other drive, and make it boot off windows 7 drive first after so that grub comes up and you have a choice
[17:36] <Mrokii> abdostar: Don't know if that helps, but did you try reinstalling network-manager?
[17:36] <crackerjackz> dnewkirk: and no one will be able to mount the file system or boot the OS with out the key right?
[17:37] <wbf> klausl: also this article might help :D http://askubuntu.com/questions/193807/installing-ubuntu-on-one-of-two-hard-drives
[17:37] <abdostar> Mrokii: no, how can I do that?
[17:37] <exan> hey guys. is anyone able to help with a quick script question? very basic
[17:38] <Mrokii> abdostar: I think you can chose the live-CD as a source as well, from aptitude, so you should (hopefully) be able to reinstall the network-manager.
[17:38] <clemi> can someone help me with my par2 problem ?
[17:38] <dr_willis> !rar
[17:39] <dr_willis> the rar tools may handle pars also
[17:39] <dnewkirk> crackerjackz: Yes. I mispoke when I said that it will adjust the boot partition (sorry, coffee hasn't kicked in). I meant to say that it will install it's own boot loader on the first track of the drive. It has a bootloader that will appear first, requiring a password before anything else. Apart from someone taking the drive out of the machine and running a hack tool (or having a backdoor), you're ok.
[17:39] <exan> can anyone tell me how to make this work, i wish to loop a simple menu.
[17:39] <exan> while [ $choice ~= "x" or "X" ]
[17:39] <clemi> thx
[17:39] <b0ot> Are there any tablets that are sold with ubuntu (or other linux distros) natively on them
[17:39] <Mrokii> abdostar: Also, maybe the package is still in the cache if you haven't emptied that or have Synaptic configured to keep it.
[17:39] <pat_ff> wbf?
[17:39] <exan> rather, while [ $choice != "x" or "X" ]
[17:40] <crackerjackz> dnewkirk: i want to make it impossible for someone to view the contents of the drive
[17:40] <dr_willis> b0ot: nit that ive heard of.... yet
[17:40] <sotiris> hi
[17:40] <dr_willis> b0ot: there was a kde tablet rumors a few months back.
[17:41] <Mrokii> SuperDefenderX: http://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?threads/steam-for-linux-to-go-live-today.1139/ There's a time mentioned here, though I'm not sure what time zone that is atm. :)
[17:41] <b0ot> dr_willis, how depressing there isn't one availabe yet
[17:41] <DJones> b0ot: There's no Ubuntu tablets, although Nexus 7 (and every other Android tablet) is linux and can have Ubuntu installed
[17:41] <dr_willis> b0ot: ask in #ubuntu-arm
[17:42] <graft> hey all, i have a smb share mounted via cifs, and whenever i change my network connection or something it hangs if i type df or something like that... how do i make this better?
[17:42] <b0ot> DJones, but then you need to do hardware modifications etc
[17:42] <dr_willis> ubuntu in a vm on android can work
[17:42] <sotiris> boot from my ubuntu what i must to do to listen the voice of video
[17:42] <b0ot> DJones, sorry not hardware mods, but manually reload the OS.
[17:43] <sotiris> because i am new
[17:43] <dnewkirk> crackerjackz: the contents of the drive are impossible to interpret without the key. Encryption is the highest form of security that one can have apart from physical security of the machine. Once the machine is running, then you can get hacked and have information stolen of course, but the encryption protects the contents of a drive were your machine stolen.
[17:43] <gordonjcp> crackerjackz: if you're going to encrypt your homedir, make sure you've got plenty of drives to back up onto
[17:44] <gordonjcp> crackerjackz: you should do a full backup once a day
[17:44] <Pici> !floodbots | sotiris
[17:44] <dr_willis> and put the passphrase on a stickynote on the mmonitor...    :)
[17:45] <sotiris> hi
[17:45] <sotiris> there someone from greece
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !gr
[17:46] <lizardbrain> trying to add teamviewer7 to startup nothing works
[17:46] <lizardbrain> it needs to run as root
[17:46] <gustav__> Hey fellas. How do I set a custom WM w in lightdm?
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> gustav__  lightdm lets you select DE's, not WM's
[17:47] <dr_willis> gustav__: each session has a whatever.desktop file. look at   ubuntu.desktop  for example
[17:48] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: it shouldn't need to run as root...
[17:48] <lizardbrain> gordonjcp it does
[17:48] <dr_willis> locate ubuntu.desktop
[17:48] <gustav__> dr_willis: Thx.
[17:48] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-team-viewer-version-7-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin.html
[17:48] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: ^ that doesn't look like it needs to be run as root
[17:48] <lizardbrain> because it doesn't worked
[17:48] <gustav__> MonkeyDust: Difference is not always so clear.
[17:48] <dr_willis> webupd8 or omgubuntu had a guide on custom sessions
[17:48] <lizardbrain> tried it yesterday
[17:49] <lizardbrain> and when running teamviewer from command line you have to sudo or it fails with permission denied
[17:49] <nemik> dr_willis: lpstat lists printers but if one is connected over USB, if i disconnect it, it's still fine to lpstat. how could i detect if it's actually connected or not?
[17:49] <dr_willis> you should use gksudo for gui apps.
[17:49] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: it probably depends on what it's actually failing on, then
[17:50] <dr_willis> nemik: not sure. mine are all networked these days.
[17:50] <lizardbrain> gordonjcp read comments on page you linked
[17:50] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: you could use strace to see where it actually gets the permission denied error, and see if you can tweak its permissions
[17:50] <amogorkon_> that might be the wrong channel for that question, but i try anyway: is there a way to copy the text from an openoffice document into a simple txt, just losing all formating?
[17:50] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: I have neither the time nor inclination
[17:50] <sevenforall> is there a way to use the terminal to move all the contents of a folder to its parent folder?
[17:50] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: I don't use teamviewer and I don't really see the point of it
[17:51] <cuddylier> Why when I go to myaddress/phpmyadmin does it say the page is not found? http://survival.spartanmc.net/phpmyadmin and it says it's not found, there is nothing about phpmyadmin in my www folder but it is installed correctly, what have I done wrong?
[17:51] <lizardbrain> gordonjcp do you know of something better?
[17:51] <sevenforall> gordonjcp: The point of TeamViewer...?
[17:51] <dr_willis> lizardbrain:  how were you auto running it?
[17:51] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: for what?
[17:51] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: I mean, what exactly are you trying to solve?
[17:51] <sevenforall> cuddylier: I'll solve this one for you
[17:51] <bkfitz> Anyone here familiar with Nagios
[17:51] <lizardbrain> dr_willis i tried sleep 30 && /usr/bin/teamviewer7 in /etc/rc.local and tried .config/autostart
[17:51] <crackerjackz> dnewkirk: gordonjcp ty
[17:52] <lizardbrain> gordonjcp trying to remote desktop a machine behind a firewall
[17:52] <lizardbrain> i mean i could install openvpn and just standard lan remote desktop software, if you know of something decent
[17:52] <dr_willis> lizardbrain: its a gui app so rc.local wiuld never work.....
[17:52] <lizardbrain> dr_willis thats what i thought but someone here told me to try it
[17:53] <dr_willis> lizardbrain: what did you do exactly in what autostart dir?
[17:53] <lizardbrain> dr_willis i used the gui
[17:53] <dr_willis> i recall telling you rc.local wont work. ;-)
[17:53] <lizardbrain> yeah then someone else told me it would
[17:53] <lizardbrain> who knows in here lol
[17:53] <dr_willis> lizardbrain: what gui? details please.
[17:54] <lizardbrain> autostart manager
[17:54] <nemik> just in case anyone else needs it, this works: lpinfo -v | grep -ir "direct usb" it'll return a 0 if found and 1 otherwise
[17:55] <dr_willis> make a script to launch it.. see if that works.. then put the script in the autostart dir.
[17:55] <lizardbrain> tried that too
[17:55] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: if it's getting permission denied errors, there will be a specific resource it cannot get at
[17:56] <dr_willis> example script..   3 lines...   #!/bin/bash     sleep 30    gksudo theapp
[17:56] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: run it with strace and see where it fails.  This will be pretty scary and technical.
[17:56] <ScotG> G2 you there?
[17:56] <ScotG2> yeah ScotG, IM me.
[17:56] <lizardbrain> actually
[17:56] <lizardbrain> teamviewer wont run unless a user is logged in
[17:56] <lizardbrain> and i can't leave the computer open
[17:56] <lizardbrain> so can't use it
[17:57] <lizardbrain> what else is there
[17:57] <sotiris> where are you from
[17:57] <Pici> sotiris: This is a support channel, if you're just looking to chat, there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:57] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: it depends what you're trying to do
[17:57] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: you could try tunneling X over SSH
[17:57] <lizardbrain> yeah that was the plan yesterday boss didnt go for it
[17:58] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: in any case, if you're trying to use GUI apps remotely, chances are you're Doing It Wrong
[17:59] <ScotG> Does anyone know how to send files on this program?
[17:59] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: what *exactly* is the problem you're trying to solve with this?
[17:59] <lizardbrain> gordonjcp using vmware workstation remotely
[17:59] <lizardbrain> and i know im doing it wrong
[17:59] <dr_willis> ScotG2: most irc clients have a dcc feature
[17:59] <lizardbrain> i am doing what i am being paid and told
[18:00] <ScotG> What's that doc?
[18:00] <lizardbrain> so right or wrong is irrelevant
[18:00] <dr_willis> vmware has a remote  client
[18:00] <gordonjcp> lizardbrain: well, you'll either have to spend money or leave the machine logged in
[18:00] <dr_willis> ScotG2: a way to send files
[18:00] <lizardbrain> spending money is not a problem
[18:00] <lizardbrain> in fact i would prefer to offload this to someone else
[18:01] <ScotG> That's what I'm trying to do.
[18:01] <sotiris> there someone here to speak greek
[18:01] <dr_willis> ScotG2: dropbox or other ways are easier...
[18:01] <ScotG> on the IM window, I clicked the send file button.
[18:02] <dr_willis> ScotG2: dcc sending of files can be.... annoying.
[18:02] <dr_willis> im window? what client?
[18:03] <ScotG> I'm using the Gaim program.
[18:03] <dr_willis> you may want to use a better irc client.
[18:04] <ScotG> can I send you something and you let me know if it worked dr?
[18:04] <dr_willis> nope. im on my phone.
[18:04] <ScotG> ok
[18:05] <ScotG> after my receiver accepts, the file transfer window opens but nothing happens.
[18:06] <dr_willis> the dcc sending can get stopped by routers and firewalls.
[18:07] <ScotG> ok
[18:08] <Linkandzelda> wow why is Skype for linux so poor
[18:09] <sevenforall> Linkandzelda: In what way? Works quite decently over here
[18:09] <doomlord> small userbase
[18:09] <dr_willis> Linkandzelda: its owned by Microsoft
[18:09] <OerHeks> Linkandzelda, works fine here.
[18:09] <lastleo85> freeNX works on MAC? dr_willis
[18:09] <Erik_D> Linkandzelda: it works fine for me
[18:10] <Linkandzelda> it's just a bit awkward to use, notifications are not integrated, it doesnt have any "real" menus, just an indicator icon. part from that it works but the experieince isnt as good as windows and mac
[18:10] <Linkandzelda> maybe im just complaining
[18:10] <dr_willis> lastleo85: no idea. i wont own a mac ever again.
[18:10] <DX099> Hello, since one or two day now, I've been unable to launch rhythmbox, the program seem to be segfaulting segfault. Using Ubuntu 12.10 on 32bits. Can someone help me ?
[18:10] <DX099> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1337915/
[18:10] <Linkandzelda> but i just got home to a bunch of crashed applications and a slow system, so lol
[18:11] <DX099> Linkandzelda, you should have seen what it looked like before being owned by Microsoft. Beta for almost 2 years
[18:12] <Linkandzelda> DX099: damn lol, well guess I should be happy then
[18:12] <DX099> Linkandzelda, plus we don't get the spam while people on Windows do.
[18:12] <dr_willis> i got a skype wifi phone.... years ago. ;-)  wonder if it would still work.
[18:13] <Linkandzelda> hehe
[18:13] <Linkandzelda> btw, does anyone know if AWN is better than Cairo dock? with ram usage, stability, community support, addons etc?
[18:14] <amogorkon_> how can i copy the raw text from an openoffice document into a txt?
[18:15] <Seveas> amogorkon_, select all, copy, paste in normal text editor?
[18:15] <EnginA> my apt cache is getting f*cked up apparently. I had to kill some apt processes becaues they were stuck in the background and locking the apt lock file... now some stuff looks corrupt. is there a tool to check hte integrity ?
[18:15] <amogorkon_> Seveas, doesn't work.. :/
[18:16] <DX099> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1337915/ besides, I think the fault happens somewhere after line 80483. Anyone got a clue ?
[18:16] <Darkstar1> hello all. How do I check the amount of space available in /
[18:16] <Seveas> Darkstar1, df -h
[18:16] <llutz> amogorkon_: open document, save as "text (*.txt)"
[18:16] <Seveas> !doesn't work | amogorkon_
[18:17] <Darkstar1> damn..!! 100%
[18:17] <Seveas> EnginA, what does 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall xterm' say? Pastebin the output
[18:17] <amogorkon_> llutz, thanks :)
[18:17] <amogorkon_> i didn't think of that
[18:17] <llutz> m(
[18:17] <amogorkon_> hm
[18:18] <amogorkon_> okay, nvm my question, actually it does work now again, after i closed the different editors
[18:18] <Seveas> Darkstar1, an easy win is probably 'sudo apt-get clean'. Then use 'sudo baobab' to find out what's eating your disk
[18:18] <amogorkon_> possibly a problem with the paste mechanism
[18:18] <amogorkon_> *shrug*
[18:19] <amogorkon_> and now it blocks again.. i don't get it. i'll try to export :/
[18:20] <amogorkon_> at least that works
[18:20] <harry> hi
[18:21] <Guest18646> yes
[18:22] <Guest18646> is any one there
[18:22] <Seveas> no
[18:22] <quist> Nothing to see here.
[18:22] <Seveas> move along
[18:23] <Guest18646> what software are you lot using
[18:23] <Pici> I'm going to go out on a limb and say Ubuntu.
[18:24] <Darkstar1> Seveas: Thanks. I'll try that now
[18:24] <Guest18646>  im using ubuntu dark
[18:25] <Seveas> Pici, actually, windows 8
[18:25] <efirvida> hi everyone
[18:26] <Darkstar1> Seveas: baobab just gave me errors
[18:27] <Seveas> Darkstar1, did you run it with sudo?
[18:27] <Darkstar1> yeah
[18:27] <Seveas> pastebin the errors
[18:28] <searching> I had a kernel panic: panic occured,switching back to text console
[18:28] <Darkstar1> Seveas: http://fpaste.org/PCeZ/
[18:28] <Seveas> hmm
[18:28] <searching> and than find in dmsg this init: failsafe main process (675) killed by TERM signal
[18:28] <Seveas> were you already root in that terminal?
[18:29] <searching> don`t reconize the router?
[18:29] <gustav__> Can I set xbiff to work with my Thunderbird mailbox setup?
[18:30] <gustav__> Any kind of small mail indication will work.
[18:30] <Darkstar1> Seveas: ran it with sudo
[18:30] <Darkstar1> Seveas: not logged into root shell
[18:30] <zykotick9> Darkstar1: 1) where you in Xorg?  2) don't use sudo with GUI apps!  use gksudo instead.
[18:30] <Darkstar1> nah. this is a remote
[18:31] <Seveas> Darkstar1, ah, that explains :)
[18:31] <zykotick9> Darkstar1: so you'd need "ssh -X foo" assuming ssh access
[18:31] <Darkstar1> remote dedicated
[18:31] <Seveas> Darkstar1, then you need to use du -sh
[18:31] <Seveas> I generally start with sudo du -sh /* and dig into the ones taking most space
[18:31] <Darkstar1> df -h actually works
[18:32] <Ivraatiems> Hi all. I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 server in an OpenVZ container, accessing it via SSH. I'm trying to use su instead of sudo to access root, which I know is not how Ubuntu does things usually, butwhich is what I prefer
[18:32] <Seveas> Darkstar1, yeah, but that's per mountpoint, du is per folder
[18:32] <Darkstar1> ah
[18:32] <Ivraatiems> and indeed, I do so on other servers running 11.04 in OpenVZ frequently. But for some reason, when I try to use su here, I get authentication failure no matter what. I know the password is correct, but it always fails
[18:33] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, the only reason for that to fail is that you used an incorrect rootpassword. Try sudo and reset the rootpassword.
[18:33] <Ivraatiems> Seveas the root password is correct. I literally changed it to "test" via a root SSH login, then used su, and it failed
[18:33] <zykotick9> !noroot | Ivraatiems Seveas
[18:34] <Seveas> if you can ssh as root, inspect /var/log/syslog to find out why su failed
[18:34] <Ivraatiems> I don't need help setting a password. I know how to do that; the password is set.
[18:34] <Seveas> zykotick9, we know... Read Ivraatiems complete messages.
[18:34] <jrib> Ivraatiems: also, keep in mind 11.04 isn't supported anymore.  See ubottu about upgrading once you sort this out
[18:34] <Ivraatiems> jrib I shall. Right now, gotta get this working...
[18:35] <Coiso> Hi all. I downloaded this drivers to install in backtrack http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[18:35] <Seveas> !backtrack
[18:35] <efirvida> im trying to install ANSY 14 in ubuntu 12.04 anyune can help me
[18:35] <Coiso> But i have no clue how to install it because all the information that i find is to enter in the folder but when i extract the tar file it shows me 2 folders so i have no clue how to install it
[18:35] <Ivraatiems> Seveas nothing in syslog about it, however, there are entries in auth.log
[18:35] <Ivraatiems> I'll pastebin them
[18:35] <DX099> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1337915/ besides, I think the fault happens somewhere after line 80483. Anyone got a clue ?
[18:35] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, ah yeah, 11.04 still had a sane log setup
[18:36] <Ivraatiems> Seveas http://pastebin.com/dwxPWTqq
[18:36] <efirvida> im trying to install ANSYS 14 in ubuntu 12.04 anyone can help me???
[18:37] <Ivraatiems> Seveas bearing in mind again that the password IS correct.
[18:37] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, did you muck about with your pam config? Are you using that password for your ssh-as-root sessions?
[18:37] <Ivraatiems> Seveas yes I am, and no, I haven't.
[18:38] <Seveas> try whether that works, also try `su -` as root
[18:38] <Seveas> if both of those fail, your pam config is busted
[18:38] <Ivraatiems> I can run su fine as root
[18:38] <Ivraatiems> and I can login to SSH as root
[18:38] <Ivraatiems> (which is what I am trying to avoid in the end, ironically :P)
[18:39] <Seveas> with the password?
[18:39] <Ivraatiems> yep. the password I set.
[18:39] <Seveas> k, pastebin the output of this: more /etc/pam.d/* | cat
[18:41] <Ivraatiems> Seveas http://pastebin.com/cnRpHBBx
[18:41] <gus> hola
[18:41] <lastleo85> what does nomachine do?
[18:42] <Linkandzelda> damn, why does dropbox fail to work almost 99% of the time :(
[18:44] <sta7ic> Hey guys...I use RDP from Linux into my windows work PC. but now that I have cisco VPN on windows pc, I am unable to RDP into there even from my local network sitting on the same network. Wondering if there was a way to allow connections from internal networking. I understand VPN on windows makes me look like I am sitting on internal CORP network so this is why its blocking it
[18:45] <sta7ic> Hey guys...I use RDP from Linux into my windows work PC. but now that I have cisco VPN on windows pc, I am unable to RDP into there even from my local network sitting on the same network. Wondering if there was a way to allow
[18:45] <sta7ic>                 connections from internal networking. I understand VPN on windows makes me look like I am sitting on internal CORP
[18:45] <sta7ic>                 network so this is why its blocking it
[18:45] <sta7ic> oops
[18:45] <FloodBot1> sta7ic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, after reading that pam config all I can think of is "no dude, your password is wrong" :/
[18:45] <Ivraatiems> Seveas yeah, except it isn't...
[18:45] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, or your keyboard layout is screwing with you. Try typing your password in your shell and see if it comes out right
[18:46] <Ivraatiems> it's literally just the word "test"
[18:46] <Ivraatiems> (no quotes)
[18:46] <Ivraatiems> and I'm entering it to login to SSH
[18:46] <mattyh88> hey, i've mounted my usb stick to /media/manufacturer .. I can read the files .. but how do I change one of the filenames and write those back to the usb stick?
[18:47] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, create a new user and try to su - from that user. Maybe it's something odd about the minecraft user.
[18:48] <Ivraatiems> Seveas Huh. that worked.
[18:48] <Ivraatiems> so why is the Minecraft user hated...
[18:48] <Seveas> ah, we're getting somewhere
[18:48] <apg> Guys, I saw there was a zram0 on my ubuntu precise. I did not set it up, it set from the instalantion. How do I remove it?
[18:48] <Seveas> what groups is it member of?
[18:49] <Ivraatiems> Seveas just "minecraft" XD
[18:49] <Seveas> and the new user?
[18:50] <Ivraatiems> Seveas the same, except with the new user's name
[18:50] <xibalba> ak
[18:50] <Ivraatiems> so where groups minecraft returns "minecraft : minecraft" groups newuser returns "newuser : newuser"
[18:52] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, did you muck about in /etc/security by any chance?
[18:52] <Ivraatiems> not that I can think of, no.
[18:52] <apg> Guys, I saw there was a zram0 on my ubuntu precise. I did not set it up, it set from the instalantion. How do I remove it?
[18:52] <crackerjackz> !password
[18:53] <Seveas> Ivraatiems, then I'm out of ideas and going back to my original assumption that you can't spell :P
[18:53] <Ivraatiems> lol but I can! clearly I can since I got in through the other account
[18:53] <Ivraatiems> I wonder if I ought to just kill the Minecraft account and make it anew
[18:53] <Seveas> very selective dyslexia :)
[18:54] <Seveas> maybe that'll help
[18:55] <Ivraatiems> yep - removing the account and recreating it worked
[18:55] <Guest87448> hi guys
[18:55] <Ivraatiems> how unusual
[18:55] <Ivraatiems> seveas thanks very much for your help
[18:55] <Seveas> np
[18:56] <crackerjackz> !chroot
[18:56] <wastrel> in thunderbird when the message list is not focused it is very difficult to see which message is selected because the select higlight color is gray and the message list is gray and white
[18:56] <wastrel> how do i make it visible more
[18:56] <blakes> I am having a monstrous time keeping cups running!  12.04lts,LTSP 5, CUPS 1.5.3.  Can ANYONE help please
[18:57] <Seveas> !anyone | blakes
[18:57] <beboj> looking for someone who usuing gobi 2000 5620 mini card !
[18:57] <beboj> *using
[18:57] <Guest87448> hi guys im new at using linux and ubuntu just trying to work things out
[18:57] <blakes> Libre office seems to be crashing CUPS without an error.
[18:58] <Guest87448> is there a good place to go to learn terminal code?
[18:58] <dr_willis> nothing in the cups logs?
[18:58] <blakes> Nothing in cups logs
[18:58] <almoxarife> wastrel: i believe what you are wanting to change is your 'theme'
[18:58] <wastrel> !terminal | Guest87448
[18:59] <Guest87448> thx for the quick responce
[18:59] <dr_willis> blakes: cups may have more verbose logging options.
[18:59] <blakes> Certain jobs seem to hang the printer indefinitely, while others disappear from the queue, while others print perfectly. CUPS web interface crashes and times out
[19:00] <dr_willis> that is verry weird. cups is normally rock solid for me.
[19:00] <Seveas> yeah, I've never had cups crash
[19:00] <Seveas> is it maybe running out of memory?
[19:01] <dr_willis> wonder if theres not a deeper problem.
[19:01] <crackerjackz> what can i do to speed up the time it takes for ubuntu to boot?
[19:01] <almoxarife> blakes: one option, purge cups, re-install cups
[19:01] <Seveas> blakes, anything relevant in /var/log/syslog?
[19:02] <Seveas> crackerjackz, get a faster computer or faster disks
[19:02] <blakes> my cups error_log is here http://pastebin.com/erGJMUrg
[19:02] <dr_willis> crackerjackz: boots in like 10 sec here. gota love  ssd
[19:02] <crackerjackz> Seveas: there has to be stuff i can disable or something thus making it faster to boot
[19:02] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: what did you do to make it boot so fast?
[19:02] <blakes> I have reinstalled cups.  Have a 8 processor server with 64 GB ram
[19:02] <almoxarife> crackerjackz: you should be booting about 1 a month, otherwise let it sleep or hibernate
[19:03] <dr_willis> crackerjackz: b9ught a ssd hard drive.
[19:03] <blakes> Not running out of memory
[19:03] <crackerjackz> almoxarife: they are laptops
[19:03] <almoxarife> crackerjackz: you should be booting about 1 a month, otherwise let it sleep or hibernate, lappys included
[19:03] <Seveas> ssd <3
[19:03] <dr_willis> laptops tend to use slower hds also.
[19:04] <crackerjackz> so is there anything i can tweak at all to make it boot faster?
[19:05] <dr_willis> crackerjackz: disable services perhaps. but i bet it wont be noticeable speed gains
[19:05] <blakes> I even tried to move print services onto 10.04LTS server to off-load main LTSP server, but only certain applications would acknowledge the presence of those entries on the network
[19:05] <almoxarife> crackerjackz: install 'bootchart' , figureout what are the time killers, perhaps they can be kept from the boot-up process
[19:06] <almoxarife> doubt it :)
[19:06] <OerHeks> crackerjackz, disabling IPv6 saved me 9 seconds boottime
[19:06] <haroldo> hi, my wifi connection works fine, but without any explanation, the ubuntu network manager shows a declining power signal, when nothing moved the netbook from its original place
[19:06] <jay__> hello
[19:06] <crackerjackz> OerHeks: how do i disable ipv6?
[19:06] <OerHeks> !ipv6
[19:06] <mattyh88> any xubuntu guys in here? :)
[19:07] <jay__> Hi guys
[19:07] <jay__> whats up?
[19:07] <dr_willis> !ask
[19:07] <almoxarife> haroldo: lots of factors affect wifi strength, motors, lighting, other radios, etc
[19:07] <blakes> Any more help on the printing issue?
[19:07] <ESphynx> hey guys... how do I disable the screen locking on Precise?
[19:08] <almoxarife> crackerjackz: disable ipv6 at the kernel option
[19:08] <Yuioup> Anybody know when it's going to be released?
[19:09] <dr_willis> Yuioup: what?
[19:09] <Yuioup> Steam for Linux
[19:09] <dr_willis> ESphynx: its in the system settings.. somewhere
[19:09] <ESphynx> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver lock-enabled false  -- would that be the way? Why is there no 'Screensaver' GUI in preferences anymore?
[19:09] <dr_willis> Yuioup: no..
[19:09] <ESphynx> dr_willis : i've looked for ages
[19:09] <Yuioup> Ok. Just wondering.
[19:10] <dr_willis> ESphynx: theres a check box somewhere. power settings perhaps.
[19:10] <dr_willis> not on a ubuntu box to lok...
[19:10] <dr_willis> look
[19:10] <ESphynx> brightness and Lock
[19:10] <ESphynx> I see it.
[19:10] <ESphynx> thanks.
[19:10] <dr_willis> seems... obvious ;-)
[19:11] <ESphynx> Too obvious I guess =)
[19:11] <ESphynx> I was looking for screensaver :P
[19:11] <ESphynx> however 'brightness and lock'
[19:11] <ESphynx> my mind stopped reading after brightness
[19:11] <dr_willis> the hud search feature can find some of those settings.
[19:11] <ESphynx> that command toggled that switch =)
[19:12] <ESphynx> If I just type 'lock' it does
[19:12] <ESphynx> searching for 'screensaver' however only bring 'lock screen'
[19:12] <dr_willis> hud is handy.
[19:12] <dr_willis> screensavers have been slowly phased out over the years..
[19:12] <haroldo> almoxarife: yes I know, but here there is no such thing. It happens always after connection: the signal commences strong, and then in two minutes is shown diminished. I hoped it had to do with power saving issues
[19:13] <arthur_> wonder if anyone can help, I have a laptop where my Del key doesnt work at all
[19:13] <swapnil> hey
[19:13] <Guest87448> this is the 1st time i used a terminal and i have to say its a bit strange i feel like i just got magic abilitys that i didnt know i had, i feel like the apprentice
[19:14] <almoxarife> haroldo: i don't discount power-saving settings affecting your wifi connection, are you running in some sort of batt saver mode?
[19:14] <swapnil> does anyone know hw 2 setup wi-fi hotspot on hp pavilion dv5 1007 ax laptop??
[19:14] <dr_willis> Guest87448:  find the book "using bash"  its a must read. ;-)
[19:14] <swapnil> does anyone know hw 2 setup wi-fi hotspot on hp pavilion dv5 1007 ax laptop??
[19:15] <swapnil> does anyone know hw 2 setup wi-fi hotspot on hp pavilion dv5 1007 ax laptop??
[19:15] <almoxarife> swapnil: alright already
[19:15] <haroldo> almoxarife: not that I know of
[19:15] <dr_willis> one way to get on /ignore swapnil
[19:15] <swapnil> almoxarife: u knw hw 2 do it?
[19:15] <almoxarife> haroldo: easy check, stay plugged in to hardwire
[19:15] <arthur_> what can you do if you tested mapping of keys with xev but there is no response for the Del key?
[19:15] <dr_willis> !leet
[19:16] <haroldo> almoxarife: it happens either way
[19:16] <almoxarife> swapnil: no, its called 'adhoc'
[19:16] <swapnil> wat?
[19:16] <dr_willis> !adhoc
[19:17] <dr_willis> !ics
[19:18] <rsumi> with ubuntu 12.04, i get a dialog that popped up to install unsupported nvidia software so my dual monitors worked. with a 12.11 clean install i'm not getting that dialog and not sure how to get my dual monitors working again. can i be pointed to the right direction?
[19:19] <dr_willis> rsumi: its in a tab under software sources  tool   i belive
[19:19] <dr_willis> or just install the nvidia-current  package. ;-)
[19:20] <almoxarife> haroldo: besides the visual telling you your connection is not all that pretty, does it seem like your connection is lagging in anyway? i got a rooted-kindle pretty much next to the router and i see less than a perfect strength indication, i don't know if it's a kirk of the new software but i also don't see any less thru put over the wifi
[19:21] <almoxarife> i don't get 'leet' , i must be old
[19:21] <Chotaz> Hello, I've just installed the latest udates(linux kernel, I believe) and now my computer won't boot up.
[19:22] <Chotaz> Actually, it does start, but gpu drivers are never loaded(fans at 100%) and I have a square in the center of the screen with visible space, I can also tell that the resolution is messed up because the mouse pointer is huge.
[19:23] <almoxarife> how would i get the output of 'top' to pastebin?
[19:24] <bekks> almoxarife: top -n 1 | pastebinit
[19:24] <bekks> thats "minus n one".
[19:25] <almoxarife> Chotaz: bekks: almoxarife: top -n 1 | pastebinit <-- do that, like the man said :)
[19:25] <llutz> bekks:  "top -bn1"   "-n1" would only print the first page of processes
[19:25] <almoxarife> llutz: that's plenty
[19:25] <Chotaz> almoxarife: pastebin the output of top?
[19:25] <almoxarife> Chotaz: yeap
[19:26] <almoxarife> Chotaz: you said you are at 100% cpu, lets see what is eating up cycles
[19:26] <bekks> llutz: Cool. Nice to know :)
[19:26] <Guest87448> do i need anti virus on ubuntu if im going to use peer to peer sharing? like torrents
[19:27] <Chotaz> almoxarife: btw, remember helping me with making sure a secondary hdd was mounted before launching my torrent's dawmon? that's did not work :-
[19:27] <rsumi> dr_willis: where is that sources tab?
[19:28] <Chotaz> almoxarife:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1338103/
[19:28] <dr_willis> just using torrents is not a risk Guest87448
[19:28] <MontyMoose> Hi people. Got a problem with installation of Proftpd on LTS 12.4. I get : Neither inetd nor xinetd appears installed: check your configuration. I'm fairly sure inetd was - but I'm a bit confused now. Any pointers? Thanks.
[19:29] <dr_willis> rsumi: i belive the "software sources" tool in the menus. then like the 4th tab it has.
[19:29] <dr_willis> nit on a ubuntu box right now
[19:30] <llutz> MontyMoose: "I'm fairly sure inetd was"   <- what about checking it? dpkg -l '*inetd'
[19:30] <almoxarife> Chotaz: oh by the way did you forget to mention that deluge was running?
[19:30] <rsumi> dr_willis: oh i see! thanks!
[19:30] <Guest87448> oh heres a question you guys might be able to help me with, I installed ubuntu 12.10 yesterday and i installed it along side windows 7, but when i tried to run windows 7 my monitor keeps shutting down and saying no singnel, but i switch back to ubuntu and its fine
[19:31] <MontyMoose> ooh thats cool - write that command in my ubuntu scrapbook. inetutils-inetd <none>
[19:31] <MontyMoose> I assume that means it's not installed then?
[19:31] <Chotaz> almoxarife: I wouldnt say deluge is keeping my computer from booting up, but at least now you know ^^
[19:31] <llutz> MontyMoose: sudo apt-get install xinetd
[19:31] <MontyMoose> I think that's already installed - 1:2.3.14-7ubuntu4
[19:31] <klpkt> I have a little problem on my computer. I wanted to rename my Windows partition, so I set my permissions to 664, and now the whole thing is treated by Ubuntu as a file, while Windows, thankfully, can still find it. Can anybody help me?
[19:32] <llutz> MontyMoose: don't guess, check!  apt-cache policy xinetd
[19:32] <dr_willis> klpkt: set what permissiins on what?
[19:32] <almoxarife> Chotaz: your puter is booting, and python/deluge i assume is eating up 25% of the cpu
[19:32] <MontyMoose> http://pastebin.com/MJsfDwGc
[19:32] <MontyMoose> so installed 'none' - means it isn't then...
[19:33] <MontyMoose> on that table thingy that I brought up. What does rc mean?
[19:33] <zykotick9> MontyMoose: using ftp these days, is foolish.  BUT, you probably need to adjust your proftp config from xinit to standalone
[19:33] <klpkt> I set my permissions on the Windows partition with Terminal: sudo chmod 664 /media/ECA4F435A4F4043C. I know now that it was a really bad idea, but I didn't know when I did it...
[19:33] <zykotick9> MontyMoose: rc, means config files are still present
[19:33] <llutz> MontyMoose: "removed, configs still present"
[19:34] <MontyMoose> so do I do a --purge thing to remove them.
[19:34] <rap424> klpkt: try resetting the permission to 755
[19:34] <slowthisbirddown> lyk dis if u cry everytim
[19:34] <almoxarife> leet?
[19:34] <MontyMoose> I'm not a great fan of FTP - happy to use alternatives. I don't have the port open on the firewall anyway - it's only there so I can upload website files on to the server.
[19:35] <llutz> MontyMoose: easier/better/more save to use sftp
[19:35] <dr_willis> klpkt: dosent make much sense either. you DONT/CANT chown/chmod files on a ntfs/vfat fileststem
[19:35] <sevenforall> My update-manager has problems, or so it seems
[19:35] <sevenforall> "The package system is broken"
[19:35] <MontyMoose> would you recommend an SFTP server?
[19:35] <dr_willis> klpkt: whats the end goal here anyway?
[19:35] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: indeed it is booting, but it's acting really weird
[19:35] <llutz> *safe
[19:35] <zykotick9> sevenforall: try running "sudo apt-get -f install" in terminal, pastebin what fails
[19:36] <llutz> !info openssh-server | MontyMoose
[19:36] <klpkt> Well, I did it... Right now it, and everything that was in it, is apparently a file, which I don't have permissions to...
[19:36] <llutz> !ntfs | klpkt
[19:36] <almoxarife> Chotaz_: shut down deluge, don't allow it to start on boot, see what that does
[19:37] <dr_willis> everything was a file to begin with... so you're  not being clear
[19:37] <sevenforall> zykotick9: http://pastie.org/5336516
[19:37] <MontyMoose> It;s already installed actually - the server is remote so I'm using SSH already as a terminal.
[19:37] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: ypu mean deluged? I will try that.
[19:37] <dr_willis> klpkt: unmount it. delete that mountpoint. make a new one to moynt to.
[19:37] <klpkt> How do I do that?
[19:38] <dr_willis> !mount | klpkt
[19:38] <livesesssionbr0> hello
[19:38] <zykotick9> sevenforall: so the issue is "'./usr/share/doc/libjack-jackd2-0/buildinfo.gz' is different from the same file on the system" but i don't have any idea why/what that means, sorry.  best of luck.
[19:38] <MontyMoose> wow - and in I go… just like that. Never knew you could do that with SSH
[19:38] <dr_willis> klpkt: i still dont know why you were messing with it.
[19:38] <MontyMoose> is there a config somewhere where I can control which users have access to which folders when connected via SFTP?
[19:39] <sevenforall> zykotick9: Why, thank you
[19:39] <klpkt> I wanted to rename it, because it had a long name, and I use it fairly often.
[19:39] <Seveas> MontyMoose, chmod and chown
[19:39] <livesesssionbr0> i just wanted to update my system to 12.10 and grub failed to install on my intel fake raid. now i have the grub rescue prompt. im on live 12.10 right now. how in torvalds name can i install grub to my fake raid again so it goes back to a working boot?
[19:39] <almoxarife> dolphin(that's kde talk for nautilus) treats a sftp dir as just another folder, aint that just swell of kde?
[19:40] <MontyMoose> I see just like you would for standard shell users - ace
[19:40] <dr_willis> klpkt: set a proper volume name on it from windows.. like "windowsdisk"  it wont use the uuid # then
[19:40] <klpkt> How do I do that?
[19:40] <danieltlx> Hello, I'm trying to install phantom.js on remote ubuntu 10.04 x64 server. I'm accessing it using gitbash from my computer. I did download the .bz2 file, using "wget". how do I install it now? what should be done? thanks.
[19:41] <Guest87448>  oh heres a question you guys might be able to help me with, I installed ubuntu 12.10 yesterday and i installed it along side windows 7, but when i tried to run windows 7 my monitor keeps shutting down and saying no singnel, but i switch back to ubuntu and its fine
[19:41] <dr_willis> boot to windows.... rename it.. f2
[19:42] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: disabled deluged and sshd from booting with the OS.
[19:42] <klpkt> dr_willis: How do I find the name of the filesystem?
[19:42] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: still acting weird
[19:42] <MontyMoose> that's great thanks very much - just hope I haven't broken too many other things - pissing about with packages like a numpty
[19:42] <almoxarife> livesesssionbr0: http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ <-- this has been my go to on a rainy day
[19:43] <sevenforall> Anyone else, perhaps?
[19:43] <almoxarife> Chotaz_: weird
[19:43] <dr_willis> klpkt: huh? in windows you havent given the fileststem a name/label so its uing the uuid #.
[19:43] <yeahbr0> bqack again
[19:43] <yeahbr0> can anyone tell me how to install grub to my intel fakeraid
[19:43] <danieltlx> Hello, I'm trying to install phantom.js on remote ubuntu 10.04 x64 server. I'm accessing it using gitbash from my pc. I did download the .bz2 file, using "wget". how do I install it now? what should be done? do I need to "run" it ? thanks.
[19:43] <klpkt> dr_willis: So how do I use the mount command?
[19:44] <dr_willis> klpkt: gparted or windows can set a nicer label for it to use
[19:44] <yeahbr0> y update went horribly wrong since grub wasnt installed to my fake raid
[19:44] <MontyMoose> one last thing if anyone's got a second. Apart from looking down an endless list in 'top'. Is there a command-line tool for viewing all the services which are running on a box? I want to check that there isn't loads of stuff using up memory that I could potentially remove. Any suggestions… or is Top the best?
[19:44] <dr_willis> !mount | klpkt
[19:44] <almoxarife> yeahbr0: http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/
[19:44] <theadmin> MontyMoose: service --status-all | grep +
[19:44] <dr_willis> bot is lagged? :-(
[19:44] <MontyMoose> ace...
[19:45] <klpkt> dr_willis: Huh? How do I use the mount command, described in a way that I can't understand at the website?
[19:45] <MontyMoose> the stuff with ? is stuff that's installed but not running?
[19:45] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: can it be a problem with GPU drivers? It used to behave this way when I was using the Nouveau Drive or the nvidia-current driver, but then it stopped happening when I ran the script provided by nvidia for linux drivers, now it started again when I installed today's linux kernel updates
[19:46] <dr_willis> klpkt: im on my phone so cant spoon seed you stuff beter then whats on the 100s of guides about mounting..
[19:46] <MontyMoose> it's strange cos there's no + sign next to MySQL but that's certainly running...
[19:46] <fourq> why when I run 'rails -v' in the term it deisplays the version, but when I run 'rails -v' in the gedit term plugin, it says that it's not installed?
[19:46] <theadmin> MontyMoose: "?" means status unknown -- some services don't report it. Or they've *never* been started before.
[19:46] <almoxarife> Chotaz_: do you have 'dkms' installed?
[19:46] <theadmin> MontyMoose: "-" means not running, "+" means running
[19:46] <MontyMoose> Got ya - I've got hundreds of things with ? marks does that matter?
[19:47] <theadmin> MontyMoose: Nah same here lol
[19:47] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: not that I know of
[19:47] <MontyMoose> jolly good
[19:47] <dr_willis> mount 101 >>>>     mount /dev/devicename  /media/mountpoint
[19:47] <MontyMoose> right I'll battle on - read about 10 million howtos about linux tonight. I must say it's rather good isn't it. :-)
[19:47] <wastrel> linux :[
[19:48] <steven-> does anybody have trouble using online accounts on 12.10 (remix) with the error message "unknown reason"?
[19:48] <steven-> it worked fine on unity, seems like the installation of gnome3 messed it up in some way
[19:48] <almoxarife> Chotaz_: install it if not already installed
[19:48] <almoxarife> !dkms | Chotaz_
[19:49] <Guest87448> any know it there is a multi terminal out there and the sudo for it?
[19:49] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: done. reboot?
[19:49] <Seveas> Guest87448, what do you mean with multi terminal?
[19:49] <almoxarife> !dkms | Chotaz_
[19:50] <dr_willis> Guest87448: pick a real nick also.... ;-)
[19:50] <Guest87448> be able to use more that 1 terminal at a time
[19:50] <steven-> like terminator?
[19:50] <almoxarife> Guest87448: 'terminator'
[19:50] <Linkandzelda> is there any reason to not like PPAs?
[19:50] <Guest87448> i dont know im new here
[19:50] <theadmin> Guest87448: The common apps for that are screen and tmux
[19:50] <steven-> well check out terminator then
[19:50] <theadmin> Linkandzelda: No official support, they are potentially malicious
[19:50] <almoxarife> Linkandzelda: yes, when they cripple your system them you hate them
[19:51] <Linkandzelda> ah, i haven’t experienced that yet...\
[19:51] <Guest87448> ok il leave it out my system not the best i dont need anything else slowing it up
[19:51] <klpkt> dr_willis: Okay, I'm trying to download the Storage Device Manager, to help with doing it, but for some reason Ubuntu wants to be hard on me, and says that it can't because "The action would require the installation of packages from unauthenticated sources". This has happened quite a few times over the last weeks. Do you know how to fix it?
[19:51] <dr_willis> ppas are like junk food  best used in moderation
[19:51] <theadmin> Linkandzelda: Basically, if the PPA is for some app, it's fine. If it updates apps that are already there on your system and in the official repos, I wouldn't touch it
[19:51] <danieltlx>  Hello, I'm trying to install phantom.js on remote ubuntu 10.04 x64 server. I'm accessing it using gitbash from my pc. I did download the .bz2 file, using "wget". how do I install it now? what should be done? do I need to "run" it ? thanks.
[19:52] <rap424> klpkt: why not just rename the partition from Windows?
[19:52] <theadmin> danieltlx: There's no answer to that. Unpack it, read the readme file if any.
[19:52] <Linkandzelda> theadmin: fair enough, something happened like that with all my compiz stuff recently.
[19:52] <dr_willis> rap424: i was wondering that also.....
[19:52] <danieltlx> I did unpack it...
[19:52] <dr_willis> rap424: or gparted.
[19:53] <klpkt> rap424: I can't because I suddenly have no permissions, and it has turned into a file for Ubuntu, while Windows does it fine.
[19:53] <rap424> klpkt: Ubuntu treats everyting as a file
[19:53] <almoxarife> Windows does it fine <-- :)
[19:54] <dr_willis> klpkt: this is your c: drive?
[19:54] <klpkt> Yeah, but earlier the partition was a folder, which I could open, now it's just a file, that I don't have any permissions to.
[19:54] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: installed dkms and rebooted, no good.
[19:54] <klpkt> dr_willis: Yes, it is. I divided the C: drive into a Windows and an Ubuntu partition.
[19:55] <dr_willis> klpkt: reboot to windows... select your c: in the explorer... use the rename feature to give it a nice name.. linux will use that name instead of the big ##
[19:56] <dr_willis> dont use spaces in the name either...
[19:56] <shomon> I just upgraded to the new ubuntu and I want my old menu back. I can't understand the nasty apple like things on the side here
[19:56] <klpkt> dr_willis: So rename the C: drive to something else, and then Ubuntu will treat it like a folder again?
[19:56] <shomon> or they don't understand me.. I want to see what is running in one place, what to run somewhere else
[19:57] <fourq> Why would running gedit with 'gksudo gedit' cause the terminal plugin to not show me the version of rails installed (says it's not installed) when I type 'rails -v', but in a normal terminal, it shows it just fine?
[19:57] <shomon> I like being able to type in "rhythmbox" or "thunderbird" and get it, but I can do that with a terminal
[19:57] <dr_willis> klpkt: we have been saying that for the last 30 min... yes
[19:57] <almoxarife> Chotaz_: in a terminal, 'sudo dkms status' , do you get output?
[19:57] <klpkt> dr_willis: Okay, I'll be back after trying it!
[19:57] <iceroot> fourq: i guess after executing gksudo the PATH is not set correctly in that terminal
[19:58] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: no sir
[19:58] <shomon> so does the new ubuntu interface do that, or do I have to go back to the earlier thing?
[19:58] <fourq> iceroot: hmm, does that sound right?
[19:58] <tommy8938> hi, i created an ext4 partition using kde partition manager, and i can only write things on it with an root file manager(dolphin) how can i change that?
[19:59] <rap424> shomon: you should be able to choose your GUI at the login screen
[19:59] <rap424> shomon: however I'm not sure if that is the case with Unity
[19:59] <dr_willis> tommy8938:  chown/chmod the  files/folders and mountpoint after its mounted as needed
[20:00] <almoxarife> Chotaz_: what you ran for nvidia with the old kernel you need to run again, better yet, use 'nvidia-current' package instead, after you remove what ever it is you installed initially for nvidia, my suggestion, i have a HTC that uses nvidia and what i suggested is the fool proof method to update kernel/nvidia drivers
[20:00] <dr_willis> tommy8938:  ie:    sudo mkdir /media/storage/mystuff     then  sudo chown youruser:youruser /medis/atorage/mystuff
[20:01] <dr_willis> with proper spellings ;)
[20:01] <almoxarife> !nvidia | Chotaz_
[20:01] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: yes but none of the drivers provided by ubuntu makes my GPU function properly, the fans are always at 100%(like now) and it gets noisey as f%ck
[20:02] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: I just went to the nvidia drivers page, download the linux x64 driver for my model and ran the script it gives you
[20:02] <almoxarife> Chotaz_: i don't know what to tell you, google is your friend now
[20:02] <klpkt> dr_willis: Well, I went into Windows, renamed the C: drive to Windows, but it's still treated like a file, that I "don't have permissions to view".
[20:02] <Chotaz_> almoxarife: thanks :)
[20:02] <theadmin> klpkt: What exactly are you trying to open?
[20:03] <dr_willis> klpkt:  your 'phrase'  'treated like a file' is totally incorrect...
[20:03] <dr_willis> klpkt:  is it showing under the file manager as 'windows' now?
[20:04] <almoxarife> tommy8938: the partion is shown in /media now?
[20:04] <dr_willis> the full path should be /media/windows or /media/yourusername/windows
[20:04] <lizardbrain> i added /usr/bib/teamviewer > /home/k/Desktop/tvlog to startup
[20:04] <lizardbrain> no tvlog is put on the desktop on boot, if i run command from term it works fine
[20:05] <klpkt> dr_willis: When I open nautilus and go to media, it shows Windows there, but when I try to open it, it either says that "the folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "Windows"." or opens it in gedit, and says that I don't have permissions to view the file Windows.
[20:06] <Somelauw> Hi, I have a samsung clp310 printer. When I print a pdf and select 2 pages per side. It will print 4 pages instead on a side and also in the order 3 4 1 2. Under windows it works fine. Does anyone know the problem and how to fix it?
[20:06] <dr_willis> klpkt:  now open a terminal, and try 'sudo ls /media/Windows'   see if you see the contents
[20:06] <Thisguy_> Hey, what's the directory //?
[20:06] <dr_willis> Thisguy_:  same as / i belive
[20:07] <klpkt> dr_willis: Yes, I do...
[20:07] <Thisguy_> Why is it there?
[20:07] <Linkandzelda> anyone here have any experience with using FlexGet?
[20:07] <dr_willis> klpkt:  does your other windows drive work properly?
[20:07] <Somelauw> Also print preview displays it correctly. It just goes wrong when the printer actually has to do the job.
[20:07] <Somelauw> It doesn't do what it promises in print preview.
[20:08] <klpkt> dr_willis: My other drive? What do you mean?
[20:08] <dr_willis> i gotta head out... bbl.
[20:11] <xukun> hi guys I have done something horrible, I accidentally installed ubuntu on the wrong disk. it was one of my raid1 disk.
[20:11] <AminosAmigos> Hello i have hidden my Templates folder (renamed it with .templates ) => templates no longer work => renamed it back to just Templates it still doesn't work
[20:12] <xukun> the other this is still intact. Is there a way restore the raid?
[20:14] <Somelauw> Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't
[20:14] <klpkt> dr_willis: What do you mean by my other drive?
[20:14] <Somelauw> What is wrong with these printer drivers?
[20:15] <Somelauw> Is there a recommended way to print multiple pages on 1 side?
[20:15] <rap424> klpkt: dr_willis is gone
[20:15] <klpkt> rap424: Well, do you know what he meant by my other drive?
[20:16] <rap424> klpkt: do you only have one drive in your computer?
[20:16] <klpkt> rap424: I think so... I might have a D: drive, but I never use it...
[20:16] <rap424> klpkt: he most likely meant your other partition than
[20:17] <sevenforall> I have issues with the update manager. When I try "sudo apt-get install -f", I get http://pastie.org/5336516.
[20:17] <rap424> klpkt: and your D: drive is your disk drive
[20:17] <victor__> streaming de video usando vlc o icecast2
[20:17] <klpkt> rap424: No, I'm pretty sure I use E: for that
[20:17] <rap424> klpkt: then he probably meant your D: drive
[20:18] <rap424> klpkt: all you did was "sudo chmod 644 /media/windows" ?
[20:19] <klpkt> Yes, I think I did that.
[20:19] <dr_willis> he did it to /media/##########  of the uuid
[20:20] <rap424> klpkt: first off, do you keep backups?
[20:20] <dr_willis> as far as i know chmoding ght mountpoint of a mounted ntfs/vfat changes nothing
[20:20] <rinzler> I installed the nvidia-common-updates package and now I can't get the nvidia x server settings to do anything and my highest resolution option is 800x600. any ideas?
[20:20] <klpkt> rap424: No, I'm pretty stupid when it comes to keeping my computer safe.
[20:21] <fermar> pyar
[20:21] <rap424> klpkt: you should make a makeup before you start changing anything, or you could end up without a working drive
[20:22] <klpkt> rap424: Yeah, I know that, but I didn't think it would be that much of a deal. I don't know very much about computers except basic programming.
[20:22] <lizardbrain> jesus
[20:22] <lizardbrain> is it actually not possible to run something as root on startup
[20:22] <lizardbrain> this is insane
[20:22] <Sean21_> Is anyone familiar with this, http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-xubuntu-12.10-quantal-quetzal
[20:22] <rap424> klpkt: i mean you should backup right now before going forward
[20:22] <klpkt> rap424: Okay, how do I do that?
[20:23] <rap424> klpkt: Google
[20:24] <Pici> !backup
[20:25] <klpkt> rap424: Could it help to just update to 12.10? I'm just wondering, because I'm thinking about updating...
[20:25] <doug2> That's weird... file has perms '-rwxr-xr-x' but running it results in '-bash: ./test1.py: Permission denied'
[20:26] <rap424> klpkt: it might, worth a shot
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> doug2: is the partition mounted with noexec?
[20:26] <willdabeast> anybody very familiar with cairo-dock?
[20:26] <doug2> -bash: ./test1.py: Permission denied: Nope.
[20:26] <doug2> ActionParsnip: Oops, nope.
[20:27] <dr_willis> lizardbrain:  try somthing simple like running 'gksudo gedit' as a test?
[20:27] <doug2> ActionParsnip: Oh, yes it is. Dang.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> doug2: that'll do it then :)
[20:32] <ninux> hi there! i wanted to know the path to a storage device and i checked the kernel message with dmesg but there was no path to the device. am i doing it wrong?
[20:32] <Chotaz_> Ok, so I fresh-installed ubuntu two days ago, and installed the nvidia drivers downloaded from their websites because none of the 4 options that ubuntu gives were working for my GPU(no fan control), and it was working wonderfully, but this afternoon after installing the latest linux kernel updates and rebooting, I believe something went wrong because right now all I get when booting my PC is a square is what seems to be a part of th
[20:32] <Chotaz_> monitor, surrounded by a black border, and from the size of the mouse pointer I can tell the resolution is messed up aswell, how should I proceed?
[20:33] <guntbert> Sean21_: keep in mind that howtoforge suggests steps that are not supported here - such as setting a root password or similar
[20:33] <ninux> Chotaz_: did u tried xrandr?
[20:34] <klpkt> rap424: How do I run the installation?
[20:34] <willdabeast> anyone familiar with cairo-dock? Having a few bugs in 12.04
[20:34] <Chotaz_> ninux: I'll google it for a bit after dinner, brb,
[20:34] <rap424> klpkt: Try google, I'm honestly not even on Ubuntu, I'm on CentOS
[20:35] <rap424> !upgrade
[20:35] <POVaddct> ninux: do you mean the path of the block device file or the path on which it is mounted?
[20:35] <rap424> !upgrade | klpkt
[20:36] <ninux> POVaddct: i pluggedin an usb flash drive and then i hit dmesg and it showd me the device "type, serialnr, vendor etc" but no path to it
[20:37] <ninux> POVaddct: i had expected something like /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3
[20:38] <ernesto_> ciao
[20:38] <POVaddct> ninux: usually scsi devices are named /dev/sdXN  (X=a,b,c,... N=1,2,3,...)
[20:39] <POVaddct> ninux: so try look at /proc/partitions after plugging in
[20:39] <klpkt> rap424: The updates seem to be blocking upgrading, and the update manager doesn't connect to the internet...
[20:39] <jerrythedog> ninux: have you tried the mount command?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: what is the issue?
[20:39] <ninux> jerrythedog: i was following this tutorial http://www.rooot.net/en/geek-stuff/openwrt/36-mount-external-usb-root-partition-openwrt.html
[20:39] <POVaddct> ninux: and if it is automounted you may try the mount or the df command
[20:40] <rap424> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> ninux: last time you unplugged it, did you safely remove it?
[20:40] <chrisd__> Hello, I have an Ubuntu 12.04 LTS automatic deploy server using preseed.  Basic install works fine.  I've just added a command to overwrite /target/etc/apt/sources.list with one that contains our internal repository.  This command fails with permission denied.  Can anyone point me to documentation regarding file permissions in preseed?
[20:40] <chrisd__> The specific failing line is: d-i preseed/late_command rm /target/etc/apt/sources.list && wget http://apt-mirror.internal/sources.list -O /target/etc/apt/sources.list
[20:40] <Paracetamol`> Hi, I'm about to buy something on Amazon, but I use 12.04, can I get an ubuntu affiliate link to provide to canonical something ?
[20:40] <POVaddct> ninux: openwrt? this is ubuntu support
[20:42] <klpkt> rap424: The updates seem to be blocking upgrading, and the update manager doesn't connect to the internet...
[20:42] <chrisd__> Also to note, it does overwrite the file.  It just causes the automatic deploy to error out and require manual intervention, which is clearly undesirable in an auto-deploy scenario.
[20:42] <willdabeast> actionparsnip - well I guess first I'll start with, whenever I login, the bottom dock is not attached to the bottom, but that one I can quickfix by just going to configuring and pressing apply. The next one is there is a blackbox behind the docks I can't get rid of.
[20:42] <rap424> klpkt: did you try it from the command line?
[20:42] <klpkt> rap424: What is the command?
[20:43] <rap424> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: do you have a ccompositng window manager?
[20:43] <BlackAngelPR> guys how i can add my seccond hdd to grub so i can choose windows 8 ?
[20:43] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip,  no do I need it?
[20:43] <klpkt> rap424: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: yes, what desktop do you use?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> klpkt: or -f    bit shorter :)
[20:44] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, gnome 3 with opengl
[20:44] <klpkt> rap424 ActionParsnip GPG error: http://no.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[20:45] <xangua> !gpgerr | klpkt
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> klpkt: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[20:45] <n1> if the package is untarred and nor the configure nor the install command (nor the kludgeinstaller) works, what is another option?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: if you run:  ps -ef | grep compiz | grep -v grep    do you get an output?
[20:46] <xorred> where is the iptables config file on ubuntu?
[20:46] <rap424> Does anybody know a good open-source alternative to Splunk?
[20:46] <xorred> I need to put the following in it: IPTABLES="ip_tables iptable_filter iptable_mangle ipt_multiport  ipt_REJECT ipt_LOG ip_conntrack ipt_conntrack ipt_state ipt_helper  iptable_nat ipt_REDIRECT "
[20:46] <xorred> but I can't find the config file
[20:46] <rap424> besides logstash
[20:46] <klpkt> Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /tmp/tmp.k3GjM09CRt --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[20:46] <klpkt> gpg: requesting key 437D05B5 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[20:46] <klpkt> gpg: key 437D05B5: "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" 24 new signatures
[20:46] <klpkt> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[20:46] <FloodBot1> klpkt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <klpkt> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[20:46] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, no
[20:46] <klpkt> gpg:         new signatures: 24
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> rap424: what does it do?
[20:46] <llutz> ActionParsnip: hint: "pgrep compiz"
[20:47] <klpkt> Sorry...
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> llutz: cheers :)
[20:47] <willdabeast> lllutz are you referring to what he wrote to me?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> klpkt: did a key get imported ?
[20:47] <BlackAngelPR> guys how i can add my seccond hdd to grub so i can choose windows 8 ?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: what window manager are you using?
[20:47] <rap424> ActionParsnip: collects logs for reporting and analysis
[20:47] <n1> did sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall
[20:47] <n1> tried make as well
[20:48] <klpkt> ActionParsnip: I don't know, isn't that in the log?
[20:48] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, none haha. I just switched from my unity gui though. I had compiz on there but I deleted it.
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> rap424: could setup a syslog server, if that's what you mean
[20:49] <guntbert> n1: I doubt if anybody will follow your problem - it is spread over a whole page - try again in "one line" (without pressing <enter> in between)
[20:49] <klpkt> ActionParsnip: Okay, now the update manager's working
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: you must have a window manager.
[20:49] <rap424> ActionParsnip: I think we need some more complicated than that, I will continue looking online...Thanks!
[20:49] <xorred> I need to put the following in it: IPTABLES="ip_tables iptable_filter iptable_mangle ipt_multiport  ipt_REJECT ipt_LOG ip_conntrack ipt_conntrack ipt_state ipt_helper  iptable_nat ipt_REDIRECT ", where is the configuration file in ubuntu?
[20:49] <klpkt> ActionParsnip: How come the update manager isn't telling me that 12.10 has come out?
[20:50] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, ah ok thanks :) then will it autofix? or will I need to do something in there.
[20:50] <n1> guntbert need to install an early thunderbird version
[20:50] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, and are there any other window managers that are better? Or do you prefer compiz
[20:51] <n1> is there anything like team viewer in ubuntu?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: try:  ps -ef | egrep 'metacity|openbox|mutter|kwin'
[20:51] <guntbert> n1: look: when you say something every few minutes it is very ublikely that someone reads the complete statement
[20:51] <guntbert> *unlikely
[20:51] <dr_willis> teamviewer exists for linux i thought...
[20:52] <dr_willis> !teamviewer
[20:53] <deadmund> it does
[20:53] <deadmund> dr_willis: I've used it many times.  I'm very sure.
[20:53] <Danon> Intel Ultrabooks are awesome
[20:53] <deadmund> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[20:53] <dr_willis> i just ssh and x forward.. ;-)
[20:54] <Sean21_> guntbert you here
[20:54] <Danon> its a laptop and tablet
[20:54] <deadmund> dr_willis: I prefer that (much faster) but some people use windows.  Then they expect me to help them use it!
[20:54] <Chotaz_> ninux: still there?
[20:54] <guntbert> Sean21_: yeah, whats up?
[20:54] <Sean21_> As far as that xubuntu thing
[20:54] <deadmund> Danon: I though ulta-books were just very thin laptops (like the Air)
[20:54] <deadmund> thought*
[20:54] <dr_willis> deadmund: xming and putty ;-)
[20:54] <Sean21_> Do you see how the desktop is?
[20:55] <deadmund> dr_willis: are you coming on to me?
[20:56] <n1> guntbert while trying to install a package first did the sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall
[20:56] <n1> and sudo apt-get install cvs subversion git-core mercurial
[20:57] <guntbert> Sean21_: I didn't look into that particular page before - it seems not to be suggesting unsupported things - so my warning was not necessary
[20:58] <guntbert> n1: sorry, I never tried such a thing
[20:58] <Sean21_> Well I am new to linux/ubuntu and someone suggested that link to me.  I already have ubuntu 12.10 installed.  How would I go abouts doing it?
[20:58] <Sean21_> Do I have to delete ubuntu?
[20:59] <n1> guntbert thx anyway
[20:59] <GrandMast3r_> hi all :) can anyone help  me ? i have a probl with ubuntu ?
[21:00] <GrandMast3r_> i all :) can anyone help  me ? i have a probl with ubuntu ?
[21:00] <wastrel> you have to say what the problem is
[21:00] <bazhang> GrandMast3r_, ask the channel
[21:00] <guntbert> Sean21_: no, generally xubuntu is only a different "flavour" of ubuntu, you can install it quite simply - that long customization will also not need a reinstall. I'd suggest to try it in a virtual machine though
[21:01] <guntbert> n1: I didn't help any, I know  Good luck!
[21:01] <GrandMast3r_> take a look bazhang
[21:01] <GrandMast3r_> BusyBox v1.10.5 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.5-1ubuntu4) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.  (initramt $)
[21:02] <GrandMast3r_> https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/557575_291149647668703_694964093_n.jpg
[21:02] <jerrythedog> xorred: have you looked at /etc/ufw/ufw.conf and /etc/default/ufw
[21:02] <bazhang> !details | GrandMast3r_
[21:04] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, it had an output
[21:04] <xorred> jerrythedog: I don'thave ufw installed, as I don't want it installed
[21:04] <GrandMast3r_> i'm running ubuntu 12.04,and i have some problems with it,first problem i can start it :) it show me black screen...i need to boot it first to start normally,the second problem now if i try to start normally or to boot it it show me this message :
[21:04] <GrandMast3r_> BusyBox v1.10.5 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.5-1ubuntu4) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.  (initramt $)
[21:04] <GrandMast3r_> pic : https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/557575_291149647668703_694964093_n.jpg
[21:05] <deadmund> GrandMast3r_: You should consider going to the channel that supports your native language.  Your English description is very confusing.
[21:05] <gustav__> http://i47.tinypic.com/i3dq1v.png Maybe you want to see QVWM. Ubuntu 12.10.
[21:06] <Jisawesome2> Odds are it is not an error with ubuntu
[21:06] <nbastin> is there a way to set filesystem mount options in the installer via freeform text?  the installer doesn't allow for all the options
[21:07] <moppag> Hello everybody, I'm new to irc channels and don't know where to post my question about a resolution problem do people post question here in the channel ?
[21:08] <deadmund> moppag: You're in the right channel. Go ahead and ask your question.
[21:08] <deadmund> moppag: Assuming your question is about ubuntu
[21:08] <deadmund> !ask | moppag
[21:08] <GrandMast3r_> so u dont understand me :( ? u dont understand even that message ?
[21:08] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, ? It said http://paste.ubuntu.com/1338357/
[21:10] <deadmund> GrandMast3r_: I find it very unclear.  I think people that speak your native language will be able to help you easily.
[21:10] <eHAPPY> sweet steam beta is out
[21:11] <GrandMast3r_> what u dont understand ? when i start it it show me that message :)  yesterday i installed in my pc hydra :S
[21:11] <xorred> ERROR: Module mod-security not properly enabled: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/mod-security.load is a real file, not touching it - what does that mean?
[21:11] <rafalm> eHAPPY: did u try to install? is it working?
[21:11] <GrandMast3r_> and i think hydra is  the cause
[21:12] <eHAPPY> rafalm yeah its working!
[21:12] <eHAPPY> http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb
[21:12] <eHAPPY> just went live ~20 minutes ago
[21:13] <deadmund> awesome
[21:13] <rafalm> eHAPPY: ok im using ArchLinux, not working there (not supported distro as for now )
[21:13] <eHAPPY> aww
[21:13] <moppag> Hello everybody, I use ubuntu 12.10  64 desktop, my laptop screen is a 1366x768 , but ubuntu use 1280x720 by default. The problem is thaht when I set 1366x768 in system setting -> display, I get a black screen What should I do ?
[21:14] <rafalm> but community working hard to make it run
[21:14] <eHAPPY> yeah nvidia posted some new "double performance" drivers too
[21:14] <deadmund> moppag: Can you pastebin the output of xrandr   ??
[21:14] <eHAPPY> suppose to be amazing
[21:14] <deadmund> moppag: Is this a desktop or a laptop?
[21:15] <jiffe98> hmm, apache2+php5 doesn't seem to work by default anymore
[21:15] <rafalm> if linux get games, companies will invest in drivers and it can hot 10% market share ;)
[21:15] <Erin> how can I change my ubuntu live-usb to save changes I make on it
[21:15] <Erin> tired of having to enable universe etc every time I use it
[21:15] <guntbert> jiffe98: what is the problem?
[21:16] <guntbert> !usb | Erin creat a new one
[21:16] <moppag> My computer is a laptop, and I get this with xranr: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 720, maximum 8192 x 8192
[21:16] <moppag> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[21:16] <moppag> LVDS connected 1280x720+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 344mm x 193mm
[21:16] <moppag>    1366x768       60.0 +
[21:16] <moppag>    1280x720       59.9*
[21:16] <FloodBot1> moppag: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:16] <moppag>    1152x768       59.8
[21:16] <deadmund> moppag: Use this website: paste.ubuntu.com
[21:17] <Magiobiwan> Mode +z?
[21:17] <Erin> guntbert, must I actually create a new one?
[21:17] <Magiobiwan> Auditorium mode?
[21:17] <Magiobiwan> Or SSL clients only?
[21:17] <deadmund> Z! For Zillow!
[21:18] <KindOne> umode +Z for SSL on this network
[21:18] <guntbert> Erin: I believe so, but I am not expert with those
[21:18] <guntbert> *not an
[21:22] <jiffe98> guntbert: apache had the php5.load file but no php5.conf file
[21:23] <willdabeast> actionparsnip you there?
[21:23] <alpic> Hi all. I try to upgrade my bios. I've set up a freedos usb key and put on it bios upgrade software. But I stucked in freedos : I can't see my usb stick data. Error message is "Invalid Drive C:"... Any idea on how mounting usb stick in freedos ?
[21:25] <Nickoleus> alpic: does your current bios firmware recognise the usb key, and is it listed as the preferred boot device?
[21:25] <guntbert> jiffe98: do you want php.ini?
[21:25] <Nickoleus> (you may have to re-save the bios settings with new boot settings to boot from the new usb key)
[21:26] <maxiaojun> alpic: I think FreeDOS doesn't have to mount your USB key.
[21:26] <jiffe98> guntbert: no, the php5.conf adds SetHandler application/x-httpd-php
[21:26] <jiffe98> without it when I try going to a .php page it shows the php code rather than the compiled output
[21:27] <Chotaz_> Ok, so I fresh-installed ubuntu two days ago, and installed the nvidia drivers downloaded from their websites because none of the 4 options that ubuntu gives were working for my GPU(no fan control), and it was working wonderfully, but this afternoon after installing the latest linux kernel updates and rebooting, I believe something went wrong because right now all I get when booting my PC is a square is what seems to be a part of th
[21:27] <Nickoleus> alpic: or does it actually boot, but not show the data on the usb key (I think I misunderstood your question)
[21:27] <Chotaz_> monitor, surrounded by a black border, and from the size of the mouse pointer I can tell the resolution is messed up aswell, how should I proceed?
[21:27] <maxiaojun> If you can boot from something like floppy emulation mode, should be enongh.
[21:27] <guntbert> jiffe98: please look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for detailed instructions
[21:27] <alpic> Nickoleus, my bios is not the problem. It recognize the usb stick because I boot on it :-) But when I launch the usb key with freedos, it does not recognize data on usb key
[21:27] <Nickoleus> alpic: yes, I just realised that
[21:28] <dsprc> alpic: i think you have to load the TSRs for the USB drivers or something. also check R: X: Z: to see if it got dropped there
[21:28] <willdabeast> does anyone know how to activate metacity? or compiz?
[21:28] <maxiaojun> Chotaz_: Can you boot into old kernel?
[21:28] <alpic> Nickoleus, TSRs ?
[21:28] <dsprc> alpic: alternatively you can try ##freedos
[21:29] <alpic> dsprc, tried it... no answer... no one there.
[21:29] <dsprc> alpic: terminate and stay resident.... they load into HIGHMEM
[21:29] <Chotaz_> maxiaojun: CTRL+ALT+F1? yes.
[21:29] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: do you know anything about truecrypt?
[21:29] <Nickoleus> alpic: I am not familiar with Freedos, so its inner workings is not something I can comment on :-/
[21:29] <willdabeast> does anyone know how to activate compiz or metacity?
[21:29] <xorred> I just accidentally deleted /etc/modsecurity, the whole folder
[21:30] <lduros> hi, I can't install csv on Ubuntu 12.04 it seems. I get unable to locate csv when running: sudo apt-get install csv
[21:30] <xorred> reinstalling mod_security does not bring the folder contents back
[21:30] <alpic> dsprc, Ive tried all letters :-(
[21:30] <lduros> am I missing something?
[21:30] <xorred> how do I completely reinstall mod-security so /etc/modsecurity is filled again?
[21:30] <dsprc> Nickoleus: it is just like any other DOS.  just the kernel is a bit different than MSDOS
[21:30] <Nickoleus> alpic: but in general, the order of drivers in "*dos" might be important (in config.sys, if it uses that)
[21:30] <crackerjackz> !compiz
[21:31] <jiffe98> hmm, I can't duplicate it with another virtual machine, I must have done something strange in my initial setup
[21:31] <maxiaojun> Chotaz_: I mean, when upgrade, Ubuntu should install new kernel and keep old ones, can you see some kind of boot menu before actual booting?
[21:31] <Chotaz_> maxiaojun: At all, the updates were suggested by Ubuntu 12.10 software update
[21:31] <crackerjackz> willdabeast: !compiz
[21:31] <alpic> Nickoleus, quite complicated for me
[21:32] <xorred> how do I completely reinstall mod-security so /etc/modsecurity is filled again?
[21:32] <dsprc> , cvs
[21:32] <maxiaojun> Chotaz_: Well, since you install NVIDIA driver independently, things can be out of sync...
[21:32] <lduros> haha, got myself mixing cvs and csv, good fried
[21:32] <lduros> ;-)
[21:32] <dsprc> lduros: :)
[21:32] <lduros> dsprc: hehe
[21:32] <willdabeast> crackerjackz, event not found?
[21:33] <Chotaz_> maxiaojun: you mean I'd have to rename Xorg.conf, reboot, reinstall nvidia's driver from the script and then reboot again?
[21:33] <Nickoleus> alpic: do you know if it uses "config.sys" and "autoexec.bat"? (will be in the root folder, I assume - they are two text files that can be edited)
[21:33] <gustav__> How do I remount / as ro? "mount -o remount,ro /" won't work.
[21:34] <dsprc> Nickoleus: it does.
[21:34] <maxiaojun> Chotaz_: You're right...
[21:34] <Nickoleus> alpic: are your files on the same "partition" as the core Freedos files (where it boots from? It sounds like you have more than one partition on that usb key?)
[21:34] <alpic> Nickoleus: Config.sys yes. All in the same partition.
[21:34] <Chotaz_> maxiaojun: sorry, sometimes I need to remember myself to do reubberduck debugging before panicing
[21:34] <dsprc> alpic: IIRC there is a menu thing that you can load that will allow you to select things from a list and load them on the fly fromt he FreeDOS Live environment
[21:35] <antivirys> please tell me
[21:35] <antivirys> how to use aircrack
[21:35] <antivirys> ?
[21:35] <Nickoleus> alpic: if the bios recognises the Freedos key (and thus its main partition), then that partition should be readable by freedos itself, can you place the files there if they are not already?)
[21:35] <llutz> antivirys: http://aircrack-ng.org/documentation.html
[21:35] <joaojeronimo> for ufw (uncomplicated firewall) to work, do I have to disable iptables ?
[21:36] <alpic> they are ...
[21:36] <Deep6> did the most recent updates to 12.10 do something to wireless?
[21:36] <Deep6> My wireless was working post install, but after an update last night no more wireless interface even...
[21:36] <guntbert> joaojeronimo: no, ufw uses iptables
[21:36] <maxiaojun> Chotaz_: I have a Nvidia desktop and I gave up Nvidia driver and switch back to Nouveau...
[21:36] <Nickoleus> alpic: so you can browse through the other folders on that Freedos partition? Can you see the folder the files are in at all?
[21:37] <Nickoleus> I assume it is a Fat(-something) partition, so it should not be a matter of file permissions)
[21:37] <joaojeronimo> guntbert, that I know, the thing is my friend just enabled iptables and wrote some rules in /etc/iptables.firewall.rules, and now every rule I set with ufw does not work
[21:37] <XRS1> dir should list it
[21:37] <GaryMcEwan> Evening evrery, I'm looking for some help...
[21:37] <GaryMcEwan> *everynone
[21:37] <dsprc> antivirys: 'man aircrack' or aircrack-ng.org
[21:37] <joaojeronimo> guntbert, should I remove the /etc/iptables.firewall.rules file ?
[21:38] <antivirys> thanky dsprc llutz
[21:38] <willdabeast> anyone know why compiz fusion icon might not be opening?
[21:38] <GaryMcEwan> Any installation wizards in?
[21:38] <alpic> Nickoleus, there is nothing similar in fact
[21:38] <maxiaojun> Chotaz_: If you still believe in Ubuntu community, please report a bug for Jockey in your case, if haven't done so.
[21:38] <bazhang> GaryMcEwan, just ask the channel the real question
[21:38] <GaryMcEwan> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 to run alongside Windows 7 on my PC. The PC itself is a quad core machine with 4GB of RAM.   12.04 ran like a charm with no problems at all, but upon installing 12.10, its so slow and unresponsive, make my PC freeze constantly, and when it enters the Grub Menu for the Dual Boot selection, it makes the screen flicker quite violently.
[21:38] <Nickoleus> alpic: what do you mean by "nothing similar" (to what?)
[21:39] <alpic> NIckoleus, in ubuntu, i can see my image files, but in freedos all is mounted
[21:39] <Nickoleus> alpic: I assume that you dont need to "mount" anything in Freedos? (dos partitions, right?)
[21:39] <maxiaojun> GaryMcEwan: sounds like your were using Unity 2D...
[21:40] <dsprc> alpic: hang on. let me see if i still have a freedos vm laying around some where that i can look at. have usb set up properly if i do. loaded my BBS package off of it.
[21:40] <arlo> Hello are there a nice friend som can help me to set one multiple websites up in my server with apache
[21:40] <arlo> its dont work for me
[21:40] <GaryMcEwan> I downloaded it direct from Ubuntu and burned the .ISO to disc.
[21:40] <alpic> Nickoleus, It mounts image automatically.... after that ive got config.sys and so on visible
[21:40] <alpic> arlo, if u want
[21:40] <Nickoleus> alpic: so if the files are on the same partition, and you can see the other Freedos files from within Freedos, then I am at loss for answers. Are the files deep in a folder hierarchy? (Probably not)
[21:41] <XRS1> arlo, what happens when you connect to http://127.0.0.1 ?
[21:41] <alpic> Nickoleus, No just in a DOS subdirectory. Strange, isnt it
[21:41] <arlo> its working
[21:42] <Nickoleus> alpic: yes, it is strange if you can see the other files and folders on the Freedos drive
[21:42] <maxiaojun> GaryMcEwan: It doesn't matter. What matters is that 12.10 requires 3D acceleration now.
[21:42] <XRS1> then you need to look and ake sure you are not useing absolute paths or 127.x.x.x
[21:42] <Nickoleus> alpic: and no special characters in the folder name or file names?
[21:42] <maxiaojun> GaryMcEwan: Do you know what graphics you are using?
[21:43] <GaryMcEwan> maxiaojun So what do you suggest I do?
[21:43] <willdabeast> Can anyone help me with compiz?
[21:44] <alpic> Nickoleus, folder name is DOS and file name is flash.bat ... I don't see anything. In normal cas, it seems to "mount" drive disk in C: but in my case, i ve only got a: (which is freedos data)
[21:44] <GaryMcEwan> My graphics card is NVIDIA GeForce 9800GT
[21:44] <Nickoleus> alpic: not exactly similar, but when a special tool placed backup files on a NTFS partition: I had to reset the owner/group permissions of those files in Windows XP in order for them to be accessible (but they were
[21:44] <Nickoleus> ooops
[21:44] <dsprc> !problem | willdabeast
[21:44] <XRS1> flash.bat must be the BIOS flashing utility?
[21:45] <xj54y_> Hello, when you first install ubuntu with an encrypted home, I think a password is generate.. Where can I find the script that automates this task?
[21:45] <sargennto> Hello all.. Looking for opinions. Planning to buy a new laptop should I go amd/ati or Nvidia for the graphics card? Which will give me better peformance with new games under Wine & Linux in general? Ty :)
[21:45] <Nickoleus> (...but they were VISIBLE, just not possible to open without permission reset: but that was NOT on a Fat partition, so probably not relevant)
[21:45] <neddin> After changing ip tables rtmp streams no longer work. what would be a remedy for this
[21:45] <Erin> ubuntu persistent usb
[21:45] <someone_> Hello, when you first install ubuntu with an encrypted home, I think a password is generate.. Where can I find the script that automates this task?
[21:46] <maxiaojun> GaryMcEwan: Try install additional driver for it first: http://itsfoss.com/how-to-install-additional-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10-quick-tip/
[21:46] <willdabeast> dsprc - sry :)
[21:46] <Nickoleus> alpic: ah, ok, possibly what you see in Freedos as drive A: is only the RAM-drive (temporary files loaded). not the actual C: drive, you might need some config.sys settings
[21:46] <wyclif> !patience
[21:47] <willdabeast> So I am trying to use compiz in gnome 3 with openGL, I have fusion installed but when I click on it, it does not open. I am trying to create binds such as alt-tab and fix graphic errors.
[21:47] <Nickoleus> alpic: let me find an old config.sys example in my archive to see if I might have a relevant tip
[21:47] <maxiaojun> Nickoleus: I wonder why not just put all the stuff in A: ?
[21:48] <XRS1> willdabeast,  check  for broken dependencies or misconfigured packages
[21:48] <willdabeast> XRS1 how?
[21:48] <dsprc> Nickoleus, alpic: IIRC a: is loaded as ramdisk from the live system
[21:48] <Nickoleus> alpic: the config.sys that you can see on that drive when looking at it from Linux is doing stuff to mount the RAM drive, which might not be all you have on that main partition
[21:49] <Nickoleus> dsprc: yes, exactly, so the A: drive is not entirely reflecting what is on the USB key's main partition
[21:50] <doug2> ssh-agent... Logging in and tried running both  eval `ssh-agent` and exec ssh-agent bash ... running ssh-add -l shows 'The agent has no identities.'. I log out and back in again, agent is still running but ssh-add -l gets me 'Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.'.....:(
[21:51] <XRS1> sudo apt-get build-dep && sudo apt-get install -i && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get update
[21:51] <XRS1> @ willdabeast
[21:51] <XRS1> prolly should run dpkg first?
[21:52] <doug2> ah, -A
[21:52] <XRS1> b4 autoremove i mean*
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: if you want compositing, install xcompmgr and add it to the session startup :)
[21:52] <XRS1> or that
[21:53] <muh2000> PSA:  steam installer:  http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb  (but you need an linux-beta enabled client)
[21:53] <jayco> Hello all, im new to this IRC. Does anyone out there know who i can speak to to join the ubuntu development team, checked out #ubuntu-devel but does not appear to have any activity at the moment?
[21:53] <someone_> Hello, when you first install ubuntu with an encrypted home, I think a password is generate.. Where can I find the script that automates this task?
[21:53] <willdabeast> thanks you two :) we need a system in here for giving higher rank to helpful people...
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: there will be an entry for the session in /etc/xdg   add it in the autostart. Mine is: /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart   and the line is: @xcompmgr -n      (including the @ symbol)
[21:54] <XRS1> jayco,  u ask your question and wait patiently i think
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: there is a karma system on launchpad for contributions there but not in here
[21:55] <jayco> XRS1, Thank you i will try that
[21:55] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip is a 4.6876 starts helper :)
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[21:55] <almoxarife> stars!'
[21:55] <willdabeast> actionparsnip yea, too bad it's not linked to here. Pretty sure a bot could be created for that.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: could suggest it in #freenode :)
[21:56] <XRS1> the schat scrolls too uch for that but it could go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:57] <Nickoleus> alpic: sorry, I could not find any relevant examples :-/
[21:58] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, definitely doing that haha. People are even more helpful in here than launchpad, and quicker since it's live :) sry getting offtopic, the end.
[21:58] <XRS1> what did you use to make the USB? you might want to try a different one
[21:58] <jcrzanoid> Hey guys. I just tried to install the latest nvidia drivers on my 12.10 install and now it won't come back up. Just get a blinking _
[21:58] <jcrzanoid> Is there an easy way to revert, or am I SOL?
[21:59] <jcrzanoid> I always have bad luck with linux and graphics drivers...
[21:59] <XRS1> how long did you give it b4 you gave up and turned it off?
[21:59] <joaojeronimo> my ufw is not working... its enabled and "sudo iptables -L" lists my rules just fine, why are all the ports I opened still blocked ?
[21:59] <dsprc> alpic: i would suggest you shoot a message off to the freedos mailinglist and maybe try there
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> jcrzanoid: try booting to root recovery mode and run:  nvidia-xconfig   then reboot
[21:59] <jcrzanoid> ActionParsnip: Thanks, will do.
[22:01] <jcrzanoid> ActionParsnip: That gave me ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'
[22:01] <jcrzanoid> tried sudo'ing it
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> jcrzanoid: you are root, so no need for sudo
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> jcrzanoid: try:  mount -o remount,rw /
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> jcrzanoid: then run it
[22:03] <jcrzanoid> Nice, that did it
[22:03] <crackerjackz> !truecrypt
[22:04] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, do you know any ops?
[22:04] <neddin> what would be the best channel for flash streaming questions
[22:05] <jcrzanoid> Shoot, during boot I got Starting load fallback graphics devices [fail]
[22:05] <jcrzanoid> Looks like it froze at Starting LightDM Display Manager
[22:05] <jcrzanoid> ._.
[22:08] <alpic> dsprc, Nickoleus : thanks anyway...
[22:09] <willdabeast> ActionParsnip, how did you add that line of code to add to the startup session? In terminal? something like gedit?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> willdabeast: its just a text file, so yes
[22:09] <Nickoleus> alpic: no problem, sorry I could not help - there are several questions about this if you google for it, but I could not find any answers with just a couple of searches, only links to threads where people could not resolve that same situation.
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> jcrzanoid: then you can either edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or delete it
[22:11] <jcrzanoid> I installed the latest linux drivers from nvidia, how would I go back to the normal graphics drivers?
[22:11] <xj54y_> Hello, when you first install ubuntu with an encrypted home, I think a password is generate.. Where can I find the script that automates this task?
[22:11] <jiffe98> if I have an apache config that is network shared, is there a way I can make sure it is mounted before apache tries to start on boot?
[22:14] <Benkinooby> hi, i got an xml file where all the code is in one line. when using firefox to display the file, firefox will present the file with correct indents and in a nice format. but when using an editor like geany, it's all in one line again. what editor could format the one-line-code to a nicely nidented xml code? or do i have to work with regex?
[22:14] <Benkinooby> problem is, that i have to make it one-lined again after processing it
[22:14] <Akuw> hi
[22:15] <Akuw> i need gd library, how can i install it?
[22:16] <osse> I want to start the git daemon and have installed the git-daemon-sysvinit package. It seems the only way to configure it is to edit /etc/defaults/git-daemon or the init.d script itself. Is this correct? The word "default" in the name of the former file makes me think I should leave it alone
[22:17] <Linkandzelda> guys can I stop Xorg process from using 60-70% cpu causing intense lag?
[22:19] <Aprel> Linkandzelda: how strong is your cpu? If it's older, you might need a lightweight desktop.
[22:19] <Benkinooby> Linkandzelda: you have to find out if Xorg is using your CPU or an other process that uses Xorg
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda: if you install the video driver it should go down. If your GPU doesn't cut it then the 3D rendering is shifted to the CPU
[22:20] <Akuw> i need gd library, how can i install it?
[22:20] <Linkandzelda> Aprel: it's a i5 2.5ghz. Benkinooby: good call, and i guess its compiz as that is using the other remaining bit. ActionParsnip: i'm using the preprietory driver from ATI and its an ATI 6600 256mb
[22:21] <trism> Benkinooby: I see geany-plugin-prettyprinter which may be what you are looking for (if you want to use geany that is)
[22:21] <sweet_kid> Akuw: php-gd?
[22:22] <jtran> anyone remember what the apt-get install shortcut for dev libraries ?
[22:22] <Aprel> Linkandzelda: nm, you processor is strong enough. Must be some other process.
[22:23] <Linkandzelda> Aprel: how can i find out what is using the Xorg process?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda: does the system have 2 GPUs?
[22:24] <Linkandzelda> ActionParsnip: it has a single GPU, discrete
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Linkandzelda: so its not one of those switchable things
[22:25] <Snoopy> hi
[22:25] <Linkandzelda> ActionParsnip: nope just a regular GPU with a single HDMI port, single monitor
[22:25] <jcrzanoid> Hrm, still no luck. Trying to boot in failsafe graphics mode just doesn't do anything either.
[22:25] <Benkinooby> trism: looks good - will try it, thank you for the hint!
[22:25] <Snoopy> at least an irc channel where ppl are talking
[22:25] <jcrzanoid> normally I'd just wipe and re-start anew but I have tons of code on this machine :(
[22:26] <pensacola> Hi all, I have a problem, my ubuntu 12.04 freezes often
[22:26] <pensacola> is there any fix?
[22:26] <Maerz> greetings
[22:26] <Theredbaron_> Depends on why it is freezing.
[22:27] <pensacola> it;s happening while I'm on firefox
[22:27] <pensacola> and suddenly the UI freezes
[22:27] <pensacola> and on chrome
[22:27] <pensacola> same issue
[22:27] <Theredbaron_> Hm, using unity?
[22:27] <dsprc> jtran: dont know of a specific switch but you can always install them with $LIB-dev e.g. libx11-dev
[22:28] <pensacola> yes
[22:28] <pensacola> unity
[22:28] <Alpha-Omega> is there any easy way to remove all these packages: http://pastebin.com/UJAWbCcT
[22:28] <jtran> dsprc:  ok thx
[22:28] <joan> hola .
[22:28] <Alpha-Omega> they were installed as dependencies with a .deb file and now I can't get rid of them
[22:28] <joan> alguien sabe de java
[22:28] <joan> ?7
[22:28] <Alpha-Omega> sudo apt-get autoremove doesn't get rid of them
[22:29] <Theredbaron_> Not sure, as I don't like Unity /hater. However, it could be a window manager problem. Try installing openbox and run openbox --replace. Then try and make it freeze again.
[22:29] <xorred> help! my server is down! ping localhost says: network unreachable
[22:30] <t|ask> .. but you know Steam is out now?
[22:30] <pensacola> Theredbaron_: ok i will investigate more, tnx
[22:30] <Theredbaron_> Steam doesn't run on my Lubuntu 12.10 install.
[22:30] <dsprc> jtran: debian breaks all their headers and stuff into seperate packages. something to keep in mind whilst building
[22:31] <nbastin> is thre any way to set barrier=0 on install?
[22:31] <dsprc> !es | joan
[22:31] <Theredbaron_> No problem pensacola, wish I was more use.
[22:32] <blob4000> hello. has anyone found a safe, non-hackish way to have Unity keep the application's menu bar visible at all times when an app is in the foreground, and not just when you mouse over it?
[22:32] <blob4000> i'm running the latest 12.10
[22:33] <lisa___> i just installed lamp and now i want to change the www directory. can someone tell me how to do that?
[22:34] <peterrooney> Alpha-Omega: try saving that into a file, then run awk '{for(i=1;i<=NF;i++){if( $i ~ /:i386/){ gsub(":i386","",$i); print $i;}}  }'  <thatfile>
[22:34] <klj613> im currently in awesome wm. however i want to go to gnome for a minute. and i dont want to logout. how can i have multiple x servers? googling a bit seems to indicate i cant get another x server on ctrl+alt+f8 whilst f7 is current etc.
[22:36] <blob4000> hello. has anyone found a safe, non-hackish way to have Unity keep the application's menu bar visible at all times when an app is in the foreground, and not just when you mouse over it?
[22:36] <zykotick9> klj613: from a VT (ctrl+alt+f2->f6) try "startx -- :1"... gdmflexiserver would be a lot easier, but i don't think that's really an option for you?
[22:36] <peterrooney> Alpha-Omega: then maybe aptitude --simulate  remove $(awk '{for(i=1;i<=NF;i++){if( $i ~ /:i386/){ gsub(":i386","",$i); print $i;}}  }'  <thatfile>)
[22:36] <Alpha-Omega> peterrooney: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `i=1'
[22:36] <Alpha-Omega> that's the output
[22:37] <klj613> zykotick9, not sure if thats a option because i dont know it? i'll try first one anyway
[22:37] <Alpha-Omega> peterrooney: i mean is there a way to just have all those packages output into a file, without the (.......) and the other bs?
[22:38] <Alpha-Omega> if I knew awk I would do it myself, but it's way complicated
[22:38] <Benkinooby> trism: thank you, that is exactly what i looked for. after processing, i will find and replace all tabs and line breaks to have it all in one line again
[22:39] <peterrooney> Alpha-Omega: what's the name of the file you saved the output in?
[22:39] <klj613> zykotick9, i get "no protocol specified" and i think i saw "no device matching" or something. also its in a loop of "no protocol specified" with ctrl+c won't stop lol
[22:39] <Alpha-Omega> {for(i=1;i<=NF;i++){if( $i ~ /:i386/){ gsub(":i386","",$i); print $i;}}  }' UJAWbCcT.txt
[22:40] <zykotick9> klj613: sorry, no suggestions then...
[22:40] <Alpha-Omega> peterrooney: {for(i=1;i<=NF;i++){if( $i ~ /:i386/){ gsub(":i386","",$i); print $i;}}  }' UJAWbCcT.txt
[22:40] <peterrooney> Alpha-Omega: uh, what?  you missed the awk at the front.
[22:40] <klj613> zykotick9, okay thanks anyway :)
[22:40] <Alpha-Omega> peterrooney: :P
[22:42] <crackerjackz> i figured out how to make an encrypted container with truecrypt but how do i get my OS inside of it?
[22:42] <blob4000> hello. has anyone found a safe, non-hackish way to have Unity keep the application's menu bar visible at all times when an app is in the foreground, and not just when you mouse over it?
[22:43] <dak0> !gaming
[22:43] <dak0> !games
[22:43] <dak0> !ubuntu games
[22:43] <Alpha-Omega> peterrooney: ok, did it, and it did the output, nice :) just one question, can't seem to copy it in because it's on individual lines, is there a way I can have it on one line with just a space between the packages?
[22:45] <peterrooney> Alpha-Omega: spaces-only not needed if you run it like so:
[22:45] <peterrooney>  aptitude remove $( awk ' {for (i=1; i <= NF; i++){ if ( $i ~ /:i386/) { gsub(":i386","",$i); print $i;}}  }'  somefile )
[22:46] <El_Fantasma> ping
[22:46] <peterrooney> Alpha-Omega: if you _really_ want it on one line,  awk '{for(i=1;i<=NF;i++){if( $i ~ /:i386/){ gsub(":i386","",$i); printf $i; printf " "; }}  }'  <thatfile>
[22:49] <jcrzanoid> I got my system booting again by wiping out the old graphics drivers and going back to nouveau.. but now unity is gone o_O
[22:50] <Alpha-Omega> peterrooney: ok, seems to be working :) shows open closed defer ect. not sure never used aptitude before, but seems to be working, thanks so much, awk is definitely useful, need to learn it :)
[22:50] <dr_willis> try with a newly made user jcrzanoid ?
[22:52] <dak0> !games
[22:52] <Guest42> Hello everyone.  I have been googling for 2 days now.  Time to ask for assistance.  I am having an issue with libc being "in an unexpected directory".  I cannot repalce it.  But apt-get -f install is broken becasue of it.  Is this repairable?
[22:53] <Guest42> dpkg --configure -a  doesnt help.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> jcrzanoid: what nvidia GPU do you use?
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> jcrzanoid: and do you have a switchable GPU (Intel and Nvidia)?
[22:54] <Guest42> I am booted into a live cd and have chrooted, but still I can't seem to repair it.
[22:54] <physically_fit> what other ubuntu related channel is available to chat freely besides ubuntu-offtopic?
[22:54] <jcrzanoid> It's a GeForce GTX 400, and no, I have the "let them interchance" option disabled in BIOS
[22:55] <jcrzanoid> At least I can see my desktop again
[22:55] <crackerjackz> Guest42: define repair, what exactly are you trying to fix?
[22:55] <Guest42> Well, I would like to be able to install software.
[22:55] <Guest42> apt-get is not working because of the libc issue.
[22:56] <ironhalik> anyone knows when the nvidia 310 drivers will hit ubuntu repos? They got released today.
[22:58] <trism> ironhalik: nvidia-experimental-310 is in quantal-proposed and precise-updates
[22:59] <ironhalik> trism: yeah. But since they got released today as final, shouldn't they be upgraded to nvidia-current-updates?
[22:59] <ironhalik> or is nvidia-experimental-310 up-to-date?
[22:59] <Gerowen> What would make some of the files on my Samsung Galaxy S2 not appear on the drive when I plug it in via USB, but be available on the phone itself?
[23:00] <trism> ironhalik: eventually I imagine, but it isn't currently
[23:01] <snoozie> im attempting to get hibernation to work, i issued command sudo pm-hibernate, screen flickers then an error saying acpi failed to set timing, then it powers down, on boot i get grub screen choose ubuntu and my session is restored
[23:01] <ironhalik> ok, it seems like the packages are still the beta version, I'll wait for the updates
[23:04] <Gerowen> Nevermind, rebooting my phone fixed it.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> Gerowen: good ol reboot :)
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> jcrzanoid: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see both chips?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> jcrzanoid: have you checked the ubuntu hybrid graphics how to
[23:12] <peterrooney> Alpha-Omega: awk is every kind of awesome.  halfway between grep, perl, and C.
[23:17] <deathman|> hello
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> hi deathman|
[23:17] <deathman|> can someone tell me how to add intel_iommu=on in ubuntu's grub?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> deathman|: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> deathman|: find the quotes with:  quiet splash  and add it in there
[23:18] <deathman|> sweet thnx
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> deathman|: save the new file, close gedit and run:  sudo update-grub
[23:19] <deathman|> mmm thinking where to put this command
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> deathman|: do the line will look like BLAHBLAH="quiet splash intel_iommu=on"
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> deathman|: a terminal
[23:20] <deathman|> so if i have this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" i need to do GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash intel_iommu=on" ?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> deathman|: yes, like I said
[23:20] <deathman|> ok thnx again :)
[23:20] <OerHeks> don't forget to upgrade grub, deathman|
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> deathman|: you need to run:  sudo update-grub to reread the new config
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> deathman|: the option is applied to standing kernels and all subsequent kernels too
[23:21] <deathman|> ok done
[23:21] <deathman|> really thnx
[23:22] <tada1> hello
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> deathman|: simple stuff :)
[23:22] <tada1> I tried to join this channel with my laptop, but I got banned immediatelly, why?
[23:22] <tada1> the name was Soelen
[23:22] <Magiobiwan> tada1, you may want to change your username to NOT have pr0nz in it
[23:23] <tada1> Soelen?
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> tada1: I'd ask in #ubuntu-ops
[23:24] <tada1> I got an answer, thanks
[23:24] <tada1> anyway, I have a question
[23:25] <deathman|> well not so simple
[23:25] <deathman|> i did try to do the same thing on fedora 17 with no success
[23:25] <deathman|> they did not even know how to help me figure it out :/
[23:25] <deathman|> and here you did help in like 10 sec
[23:25] <tada1> I'm having an homeserver with the server edition of ubuntu on it and a netbook with ubuntu as well. Is there any possibility to mount a directory from the server on my laptop?
[23:26] <Magiobiwan> tada1, you could do a Samba share, or some sort of other share
[23:26] <deathman|> now the hard stuff =_=
[23:27] <Linkandzelda> anyone in here know the regex for include everything?
[23:27] <tada1> I can access files from the server via samba but firefox doesnt understand the samba/smb protocoll, that is why I'm asking
[23:27] <Magiobiwan> FTP?
[23:27] <OpenSorce> Okay I've turned off screen blanking, screen saver and anything else like that in every place I can find. Can I just remove the daemon that makes my screen blank?!?
[23:27] <tada1> I think ftp is not a comfortable option
[23:27] <deathman|> i predict i will have kernel crash soon :)
[23:28] <deathman|> ok thnx for help time to restart ubuntu
[23:28] <deathman|> bye all
[23:28] <tada1> bb
[23:29] <Magiobiwan> Nobody does /quit anymore...
[23:29] <Magiobiwan> They just hard close the client
[23:29] <tada1> it's very easy to mount on windows, and I was hoping for a fast solution on ubuntu as well
[23:29] <Magiobiwan> Windows =!= Linux
[23:31] <tada1> : (
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Magiobiwan: I always /quit
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> tada1: you can mount FTP using nautilus
[23:34] <MonkeyDust> tada1  just entered, trying to mount a remote folder on ubuntu? why not use NFS?
[23:35] <Ephexeve> Hey guys, question, can you just install Ubuntu on an EEEPC or is there anything special for that?
[23:35] <desti> i'v ubuntu on eeepc 1000h
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Ephexeve: just install it, you may need some tweaks but it works well
[23:36] <ControllerSYR> Ephexeve,  you mean that littil laptop
[23:36] <[TiZ]> Hi. What groups does my normal user need to be in so that playing games on a separate X server will work? I know I had to put myself into the video group to get acceleration to work, but what else?
[23:36] <ControllerSYR> Ephexeve, yes you can
[23:36] <tada1> MonkeyDust: nfs? let me check
[23:37] <OerHeks> Ephexeve, i would use Xubuntu, much lighter desktop, but try it, maybe your EEE is better than my asus eee901
[23:37] <Troy^> what is some good video editing software for linux?
[23:38] <tada1> MonkeyDust: thanks I think that might help!
[23:38] <[TiZ]> Troy^: Avidemux
[23:38] <faxer> Hi, I have a file with a permission ----rwx--- (070), i.e: rwx for group and nothing for others. However, I am unable to read it, despite the file's GID and my GID being  the same. Why is this ? There are no ACLs in action too !
[23:39] <jrib> faxer: paste the output of « ls -ld FILE » and « whoami »
[23:39] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Hello
[23:40] <faxer> jrib: ls -ld gives : "----rwx--- 1 faxer faxer 0 Nov  7 03:48 test.txt"
[23:40] <faxer> whoami gives : "faxer"
[23:40] <jrib> faxer: you have explicitly said the faxer user cannot read, therefore he cannot read
[23:40] <faxer> jrib: but - he belongs to the 'faxer' group
[23:40] <jrib> faxer: the user specification takes precedence
[23:41] <faxer> who owns the file. Shouldn't the group permissions be checked if the user permissions fail
[23:41] <jrib> faxer: no, you could for example give everyone read and then use group permissions to take away read permissions from a certain group
[23:43] <faxer> jrib: so what you're saying is that the group flags are not even checked if the user permission check fails ?
[23:43] <jrib> faxer: why would they be
[23:43] <Troy^> avidemux has like no options
[23:43] <jrib> faxer: basically, you can think of it as the more specific rule applies
[23:44] <faxer> jrib: but say for example a guest user, who also belongs to the faxer group tries to access the file
[23:44] <jrib> faxer: sure, he can access the file
[23:44] <faxer> jrib: in his case, the user flags would still fail, but the group flags would still be checked
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> faxer: your user is also in a group of its own name too
[23:44] <jrib> faxer: the user flag applies to the owner of the file; he is not the owner
[23:45] <faxer> jrib: oops
[23:45] <faxer> jrib: thanks got it
[23:45] <faxer> thanks ActionParsnip
[23:45] <xibalba> ActionParsnip, you should go work for ubuntu
[23:47] <Sean21_> Anyone familiar with xununtu http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-xubuntu-12.10-quantal-quetzal ?
[23:47] <jrib> Sean21_: please just ask your actual question
[23:47] <Sean21_> xubuntu
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: I just do support. as far as I know it's teh same just with SLAs
[23:47] <SuperDefenderX> Anyone get their hands on the new Steam?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Sean21_: what's te issue
[23:47] <Sean21_> That is my question
[23:47] <Sean21_> Well I already installed ubuntu 12.10
[23:47] <jrib> Sean21_: the answer is "yes, someone is familiar with it."  It's a useless question.
[23:48] <Sean21_> So I was wondering how I would go abouts installing xubuntu
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Sean21_: 2 options
[23:48] <jrib> !xubuntu | Sean21_
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Sean21_: install xfce4 and use your gnome apps in the xfce session (default settings)
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Sean21_: or install xubuntu-desktop to get the full xubuntu desktop with all the apps installed
[23:48] <Sean21_> Sorry Im a newb with linux/ubuntu
[23:49] <Sean21_> Where do you download the full xubuntu desktop
[23:49] <jrib> Sean21_: software center
[23:49] <[TiZ]> Come on, I'm pretty furious here. This script that I use to run games in a separate X server worked perfectly fine in Precise, and now that I'm on Quantal, it's all busted. Every time I try to quit a game in that x server, it hangs, and some applications just fail to start at all, hanging with half a window.
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Sean21_: use software centre
[23:50] <gordonjcp> Sean21_: have you already got Ubuntu of some sort installed?
[23:50] <[TiZ]> So what do I need to do to be sure that something I do in a separate X sever won't just break?
[23:50] <Sean21_> Yes gordon
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Sean21_: if you install xubuntu-desktop you will duplicate app fuinctionality
[23:51] <gordonjcp> Sean21_: okay, either go to the software centre as jrib says, or from a terminal "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[23:51] <gordonjcp> Sean21_: and wait for a while
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Sean21_: for example, you have gedit installed now, if you install xubuntu-desktop you will also have mousepad installed
[23:51] <Sean21_> So is this good or bad
[23:51] <gordonjcp> Sean21_: neither, and both
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Sean21_: i'd just install xfce4 and use the gnome apps you have in xfce
[23:52] <Sean21_> So when you say to install xfce4, where do I do that? what gordon said?
[23:53] <gordonjcp> Sean21_: are you using Unity just now?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Sean21_: its a package name. Install it in software centre, or in a terminal, run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install xfce4
[23:53] <Sean21_> gordon, like I said im new to this, all I know is I installed ubuntu 12.10 and thats it.
[23:55] <gordonjcp> Sean21_: okay, first handy hint - if you want to reply to someone type the first few letters of their nickname and hit <TAB>
[23:55] <Sean21_> gordonjcp: ok
[23:56] <gordonjcp> Sean21_: there you go, now your name pops up in yellow and if I'm reading another channel, this one shows up as a different colour
[23:56] <gordonjcp> Sean21_: so I can tell that someone wants *me* specifically to pay attention to the channel
[23:56] <gordonjcp> Sean21_: don't be annoying with that, like I'm doing right now
[23:57] <Sean21_> gordonjcp: i been wondering how to do that, i have asked and nobody told me how
[23:57] <gordonjcp> Sean21_: it's called "tab completion" and it works in the terminal too
[23:57] <ActionParsnip>  Sean21_ TAB gets used a lot in Linux :)
[23:57] <[TiZ]> Come on, I'm pretty furious here. This script that I use to run games in a separate X server worked perfectly fine in Precise, and now that I'm on Quantal, it's all busted. Every time I try to quit a game in that x server, it hangs, and some applications just fail to start at all, hanging with half a window. So what do I need to do to be sure that something I do in a separate X sever won't just break?
[23:57] <Sean21_> ActionParsnip: LOL
[23:57] <gordonjcp> [TiZ]: you said that already
[23:57] <Magiobiwan> [TiZ], perhaps if you were PATIENT, you could get an answer
[23:58] <Sean21_> gordonjcp: ok so back to square one, you asked me if I have unity.
[23:58] <gordonjcp> yes, which if you installed "ordinary" Ubuntu, you do have
[23:58] <ablyss> [TiZ]: i believe bash was upgraded in the l2.10 so some scripts might break
[23:58] <[TiZ]> And exactly how patient do I have to be?
[23:58] <Linkandzelda> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-cnaJoGCw&feature=related this is an awesome presentation
[23:59] <gordonjcp> [TiZ]: maybe patient enough to try to describe the problem, maybe devise a test case and pastebin your errors?
[23:59] <Sean21_> gordonjcp: What should I do?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: can you pastebin the script please
[23:59] <gordonjcp> Sean21_: so if you want to install Xubuntu, open the software centre and search for Xubuntu