| xnox | *sigh* I didn't make it on time. | 00:16 |
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| xnox | pykde4 is in depwait on kde stack and until it's built and transitions, I can't drop python3.2 out of the archive =) | 00:17 |
| xnox | oh well. I can go to sleep ;-) | 00:17 |
| yofel | plasma-desktop runs surprisingly well on my nexus... | 00:27 |
| * yofel is off to bed | 00:28 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: My thought is "make it wonderful". | 00:31 |
| ScottK | Did 4.9.3 get uploaded? | 00:31 |
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| apachelogger | yofel: most likely | 01:22 |
| apachelogger | unless the calligra desktop file has a lower initialpreference, in which case the kate patch needs to go even lower | 01:22 |
| ScottK | yofel: Why are the Ubuntu language packs for KDE building in the updates PPA (the Ubuntu ones, not the KDE ones)? | 02:50 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1061073] Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061073 (by Stefan Freyr) | 03:25 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: they are now built by kde-l10n | 05:05 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Oh. | 05:11 |
| yofel | ScottK: 4.9.3 is in the archive except for 4 packages which were missing from the packageset and l10n | 08:12 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:23 |
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| jussi | Hi all. Is anyone else having issues creating k/ubuntu USB's with the usb creator tool on quantal? | 12:24 |
| jussi | fails near the end with "Could not read from /tmp/tmpzEPYyh" | 12:26 |
| jussi | hehe, looks like i was the usb... (was a free one I got from SUSE :P) | 12:32 |
| Tm_T | jussi: I blame SUSE | 12:33 |
| jussi | :D | 12:33 |
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| ScottK | yofel_: Excellent. I just installed the quantal one from the PPA for testing. In about 10 hours or so, I can upload the missing 4 if no one else does before. | 13:06 |
| ScottK | Seems to work OK on initial contact. | 13:10 |
| yofel_ | ok, I added them to the supported seed and cjwatson said that I should ping him again later today so maybe I can do that myself later | 13:11 |
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| ScottK | OK. | 13:12 |
| ScottK | Let me know if you need me to upload. | 13:12 |
| yofel | shadeslayer, Quintasan, SteveRiley: do you guys have any pointers to a guide that tells how to make a VM/crossbuild env to build nexus7 packages? | 13:12 |
| yofel | sure | 13:12 |
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| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ping | 14:36 |
| jussi | so, Kubuntu runs quite nicely on my 1.86 ghz atom - the ssd helps of course :D | 14:37 |
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| apachelogger | primariy bottleneck is always the hdd | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ping :( | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: does one not need to clean the transaction object? | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | also if the user for example denied authorization and the transaction errored... how do I discard the pending changes? | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | currently I am doing const QApt::PackageList pkgList = m_backend->markedPackages(); | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | foreach (QApt::Package *package, pkgList) | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | package->setKeep(); | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | which seems a bit fugly | 14:42 |
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| * apachelogger issues leak alert | 14:46 | |
| apachelogger | jussi: what you doing with an atom btw? | 14:46 |
| jussi | apachelogger: got myself one of those tiny little sony vaio machines. | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | neato | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | I did not know they came with atom | 14:54 |
| jussi | ie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Vaio_P_series | 14:54 |
| jussi | apachelogger: sadly its got poulsbo in it - but all the same, seems to work ok with just 2d | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | why poulsbo never received proper support is totally beyond me | 15:00 |
| mparillo | I got a System Notification that Software updates are available, and Muon found a whole bunch of 4:4.9.3-0ubuntu1 updates | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: http://paste.kde.org/599138/ | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | oh noes, a bug | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, JontheEchidna, yofel: http://paste.kde.org/599180/ | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | also in bzr | 15:52 |
| Quintasan | Urgh | 16:00 |
| Quintasan | I had to get ill right now | 16:00 |
| Quintasan | yofel: I'd just use pbuilder | 16:01 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1074371] In Kubuntu 12.10, systemsettings does not show "system languages" @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1074371 (by Ganton) | 16:01 |
| Quintasan | I think arch=armhf should work with pbuilder | 16:01 |
| Quintasan | Does 4.9.3 still needs testing? | 16:02 |
| * Quintasan is not really for anything requiring thinking today | 16:02 | |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Who do I pester do get burndown charts for Kubuntu? | 16:05 |
| yofel | I think 4.9.3 is fine as it is. Get well soon :) | 16:06 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: looks good | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: beer with honey and you'll be cured in a day | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | or hungover | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | latter making you not feel yourself amounts to the same end result though | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: weeh, please be fixing your leak though :P | 16:15 |
| JontheEchidna | leak? | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: http://paste.kde.org/599138/ | 16:16 |
| JontheEchidna | that's libapt-pkg's leak, not libqapt's | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | pff | 16:16 |
| Quintasan | I blame apachelogger for that mem leak :P | 16:17 |
| apachelogger | I well remember you trollface :P | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | also seriously I was going like whaaaaa :O when noticing the leaking | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | was all freaking out and stuff | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | <- does not write leaky code :P | 16:19 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, actually | 16:20 |
| JontheEchidna | call m_backend->reload any time a transaction finishes, instead of manually trying to update what happened to the package cache | 16:21 |
| JontheEchidna | (there's no telling what actually happened to any given package in a commit if it failed during the commit) | 16:22 |
| JontheEchidna | it could have failed because the package archive was corrupt (and have the status of not installed) but it could also have been installed, but the postinst script failed | 16:23 |
| JontheEchidna | so to keep consistent you should really call reload() every time after a transaction | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | oh, my friend donald seems outraged, obama must have won :O | 16:25 |
| JontheEchidna | oh yeah, they called that about 12 hours ago ^^ | 16:25 |
| * apachelogger gave up on following the rominee's path to the white house | 16:25 | |
| apachelogger | https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266034630820507648 | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | see that is why I like donald, he sounds like a right wing guevara | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: reload on what object? | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | ah | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | nvm | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: so m_backend->reload instead of setKeep()? | 16:28 |
| JontheEchidna | yus | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | sounds nicer | 16:28 |
| JontheEchidna | keep in mind that it will invalidate any current Package pointers | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | yeah, don't have any at that point anymore | 16:29 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, right | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | that is, I do that once all transactions returned | 16:29 |
| JontheEchidna | btw, that problem resolver leak should only happen when a pending change would break the dependency cache... wonder what was up | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | it's madness :P | 16:31 |
| JontheEchidna | looks like a fairly straightforward to the leak tho. I'll send a patch to the apt pplz | 16:33 |
| JontheEchidna | s/straightforward/straightforward fix/ | 16:33 |
| kubotu | JontheEchidna meant: "looks like a fairly straightforward fix to the leak tho. I'll send a patch to the apt pplz" | 16:33 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: That damn leak was a FEATURE | 16:36 |
| Quintasan | And you KNOW it | 16:36 |
| JontheEchidna | this should do it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1340258/ | 16:41 |
| * yofel makes his way home | 16:44 | |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1074371] In Kubuntu 12.10, systemsettings does not show "system languages" @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1074371 (by Ganton) | 17:04 |
| yofel | also interesting to track: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-arm-usb-creator-fastboot-support | 17:39 |
| yofel | Quintasan: hm, did you guys actually discuss alternatives for not getting ARM PPA builds? | 17:47 |
| Quintasan | yofel: No, we did not | 17:48 |
| Quintasan | I asked Laura and she said we can't get arm ppa unless we are canonical or linaro | 17:49 |
| yofel | setting up a shared repo with reprepro is easy, but I'm wondering how to get the builds done (other than on hardware) | 17:49 |
| yofel | let's see how long building kate takes on the tablet | 17:50 |
| * Quintasan nudges ScottK to sign his key | 17:52 | |
| shadeslayer | yofel: building small stuff is fine | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | try building homerun | 17:54 |
| Quintasan | lol | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | and then build kde4libs | 17:54 |
| yofel | well, that's why I'm looking for alternatives... | 17:54 |
| Quintasan | I wonder if it would be possible to get a small repo on ScottK's arm machines | 17:55 |
| Quintasan | or that would be too much? | 17:55 |
| Quintasan | If we could just have active builds somewhere | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | hmmm | 17:56 |
| yofel | don't we have any instructions for a n7 compatible qemu VM somewhere? | 17:57 |
| Quintasan | We could alternatively have shadeslayer compile everything in head and cat the output directly to the cpu | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | that sounds like fun | 17:58 |
| yofel | apachelogger said that he's a good compiler | 17:58 |
| Quintasan | god | 17:59 |
| Quintasan | I feel like crap | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | but ... does he have a good linker ? | 17:59 |
| yofel | I worry about memory corruption though | 17:59 |
| Quintasan | going to bed | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | because arm has limited mem for linking | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | ( apparently there's an option that you can pass to ld that makes it use less memory :P ) | 18:00 |
| yofel | well, I can time building active later. But then I worry about burning out the Flash storage too | 18:02 |
| yofel | it's not like I can build active in a tmpfs | 18:02 |
| * yofel wonders if building over NFS would work........ | 18:02 | |
| yofel | hm, building kate took about 3x as long as on my server. That's not too bad | 18:21 |
| SteveRiley | yofel: did you find out what you need to build nexus 7 packages? presume you're asking about getting kubuntu active to run. | 18:22 |
| SteveRiley | my nexus 7 is on the ups truck now, should arrive at home today | 18:22 |
| yofel | not really, we were just talking about how to get builds done | 18:22 |
| SteveRiley | i know that quintasan got a build script at UDS, but i don't understand that stuff enough yet to grok what we can do with it | 18:22 |
| yofel | building on hardware works ofc | 18:22 |
| yofel | but that doesn't really scale | 18:22 |
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| yofel | meh, the ubuntu nexus 7 kernel has neither NFS nor CIFS support :( | 19:13 |
| yofel | yay, sshfs works | 19:20 |
| pedahzur | Yesterday on the kubuntu.org site there was an announcement of packages for KDE SC 4.9.3, then it went away. Was the release withdrawn for some reason? | 19:36 |
| yofel | the announcement is back, the packages weren't yet published | 19:37 |
| yofel | and it was mentioning the wrong repository | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | any chances 4.9.3 is going to be backported to precise? :P | 19:38 |
| yofel | feel free to do it, maybe I'll do it in a bit | 19:40 |
| yofel | I didn't really intend not to do it ^^ | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 19:41 |
| * yofel goes rebuilding skanlite to get it's translations back | 19:41 | |
| shadeslayer | I need to install quantal over the weekend | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | @_@ | 19:42 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: http://susepaste.org/70325599 | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | well .. drat | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | how ironic is that picture | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | I think I'll leave it there | 19:43 |
| pedahzur | yofel: The initial announcement said there were packages for precise in the backports PPA. | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | "This post will never expire" | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | :> | 19:44 |
| yofel | pedahzur: that was wrong | 19:45 |
| yofel | there will be, but not yet | 19:45 |
| pedahzur | yofel: Bummer. | 19:45 |
| pedahzur | yofel: Oh, there *will* be. Cool. Thanks! | 19:45 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: here it's x86_64: 75G, x86: 60G | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | I was thinking i386 would be more popular | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | I was wrong | 19:46 |
| yofel | ok, so mfish just told me how to make armhf pbuilders | 19:51 |
| yofel | that's progress | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | uhh | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | how? | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | and also, does it use KVM's? | 19:52 |
| yofel | see #ubuntu-arm | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | thats .... awesome | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | however | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | E: Unable to locate package pbuilder-scripts | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | !info pbuider-scripts | 19:54 |
| ubottu | Package pbuider-scripts does not exist in quantal | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | *giggle* | 19:54 |
| yofel | o.O | 19:54 |
| yofel | !info pbuilder-scripts | 19:54 |
| ubottu | pbuilder-scripts (source: pbuilder-scripts): Wrapper scripts for pbuilder. In component universe, is extra. Version 16 (quantal), package size 6 kB, installed size 60 kB | 19:54 |
| yofel | not in precise | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | righto | 19:55 |
| * yofel gives building kde4libs a try using that pbuilder | 20:33 | |
| yofel | hm, it's SLOW, but it's running | 20:51 |
| * yofel goes working on 4.9.3 for precise | 20:58 | |
| yofel | staging still has space left | 20:58 |
| yofel | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped | 21:04 |
| yofel | meh | 21:04 |
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| yofel | ok, packageset fixed | 21:36 |
| * yofel uploads the rest | 21:36 | |
| yofel | hm, qemu segfaulted again, I'll debug this another time | 21:39 |
| pedahzur | yofel: qemu segfaulted while you were building 4.9.3? Or is that for something else? | 21:47 |
| yofel | that was a testbuild for ARM packages | 21:47 |
| yofel | 4.9.3 is uploaded here: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages?batch=200 and will build in due time. (DON'T USE THAT PPA ON YOUR SYSTEM) | 21:48 |
| pedahzur | yofel: Oh, I know...I won't use staging. :) I'll wait until it appears in the PPA I already have configured. | 21:58 |
| yofel | the builders are currently a bit busy, so that might take a day or so | 21:58 |
| pedahzur | yofel: No worries. Great to know it's in progress. | 21:59 |
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| yofel | ScottK: do you know if there is a list of all packages that were demoted to universe in quantal? We shipped skanlite without translations because nobody rebuilt it and now I'm wondering what else doesn't have translations | 22:16 |
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| Daviey | yofel: I don't think it's accurately tracked. :/ The best i could suggest is either diffing Packages.gz between the releases or inspecting component-mismatches emails. | 22:29 |
| * yofel feared as much :/ | 22:30 | |
| * yofel is off to bed - good night | 23:31 | |
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