[00:06] <avihay> I recently noticed that I can't left-click the icon on my decorations to access the menu, only right click works...
[00:41] <xixor> sup
[00:42] <simplew> my mouse stops working without apparent reason, any one knows why? i see that this is a problem that has happened to other ubuntu users
[00:43] <OerHeks> simplew, if it is an usb mouse, plug it out an back in again?
[00:43] <xixor> despite my best attempts to kill my mouse, mine still works
[00:43] <OerHeks> oh, please don't crosspost
[00:43] <simplew> OerHeks: sometimes work, others doesnt
[00:43] <xixor> !backports
[00:43] <xixor> !packaging
[00:47] <Navetz> Hello can someone help me debug my laptop running kubuntu. I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 recently. Everything went fine then I went to login the other day and everytime I type my password into the login screen, I get a black screen for a split second (command screen with writing but it goes away before I can read it) and it brings me back to the login screen
[00:48] <xixor> Hm......
[00:49] <xixor> should I allow unsupported and pre-release updates in muon I wonder?
[00:49] <jedihawk> Navetz: have you tried tailing a log file?
[00:50] <Navetz> jedihawk, not really sure how personally, had a friend do it for me today and it said a lot of things about eth0 being disabled so I'm assuming the wireless drivers aren't working
[00:51] <jedihawk> do you have the thing in front of you now?
[00:51] <Navetz> yes
[00:51] <jedihawk> Ctrl-Alt-F1.  got a login prompt?
[00:51] <Navetz> i can go into consol login from the logiin screen
[00:52] <jedihawk> whatever works for ya.
[00:52] <kroku> hi all
[00:52] <xixor> yo
[00:53] <kroku> any eclipse users here?
[00:53] <Navetz> ohhh I think i have some more info. If I go to tty7 iI see aned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned. Then it says starting apache server, then it says checking battery state... This is the screen that shows up for a split second when I try to login
[00:53] <MelRay> Is it possible to keep Kontakts synced with the addressbook in Gmail?
[00:54] <Navetz> jedihawk, logged in
[00:55] <kroku> i've probably java / eclipse related problem
[00:55] <jedihawk> Navetz: cd /var/log
[00:55] <jedihawk> Navetz: tail -f messages
[00:56] <kroku> have an hour or so before my flight
[00:56] <jedihawk> Navetz: switch back to your GUI login and try again, then check the log.
[00:57] <Navetz> jedihawk, how do I get back to GUI login? do I need to reboot?
[00:58] <jedihawk> Navetz: Ctrl-Alt-F7 or F8.  Ctrl-Alt-F*
[00:59] <Navetz> ctrl-alt-f7 seems to be frozen at that black screen. I'll reboot, try to login, then read logs
[00:59] <MelRay> Navetz: Try tty 1
[00:59] <Navetz> MelRay, I have tty1
[00:59] <Navetz> just not gui
[01:00] <MelRay> Navetz: If you login on tty1 you can't start your gui?
[01:00] <OerHeks> kroku, try #eclips
[01:01] <Navetz> MelRay, I can never start my GUI, the closest I get is my login screen, it flashes black when I enter my password and brings me back to my login screen
[01:02] <MelRay> Navetz: Ahhhh...
[01:02] <jedihawk> Navetz: a while ago, my gui login screen broke (still have no idea why) so I'd switch to the first tty (Ctrl-Alt-F1), log in, then manually launch the gui with 'startx'. did that for a while. worked fine as I didn't reboot very often.
[01:04] <MelRay> I wonder if a xorg.conf file got created somehow....might be  a .conf file screwing it up...or vice versa
[01:05] <kroku> thnx OreHeks
[01:05] <Navetz> I tried startx, says it's already running and to delete a lock
[01:05] <jedihawk> cd /var/log ; tail -f Xorg.*
[01:05] <xixor> my debugging in linux involves no tailing of log files.  I would be mv ~/.kde to ~/.kde_old.  moving xorg.conf files around, dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current .... I'm also not good at fixing linux with a poor track record
[01:06] <MelRay> Navetz: do ps -ax and see what has created the lock
[01:07] <MelRay> Kill the process
[01:11] <Navetz> the log shows uploading evdev, then next line shows ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log. Next line:Server terminated successfully (0). closing log file
[01:12] <Navetz> in xorg.failsave.log I see xf860OpenConsol: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interruped system call
[01:12] <Navetz> MelRay, How do I tell what's created the lock from ps -ax?
[01:12] <MelRay> You might look for the .old xorg log and compare it to the current and look for variation
[01:14] <Navetz> kk
[01:16] <MelRay> Navetz: This might be a possibility to try....https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/441653
[01:17] <Navetz> MelRay, this might just be it, ill look into it thanks
[01:17] <MelRay> Navetz: Sure
[01:21] <Omar> hi every body, I installed FDesktoprecorder, but when I start recording, It doesn't, something wrong with ffmpeg. here is the message:  ffmpeg version 0.8.3-6:0.8.3-6ubuntu2, Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the Libav developers
[01:21] <Omar>   built on Oct  1 2012 12:54:15 with gcc 4.7.2
[01:21] <Omar> *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***
[01:21] <Omar> This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead.
[01:21] <Omar> [x11grab @ 0xc7cf60] device: :0.0 -> display: :0.0 x: 0 y: 0 width: 1366 height: 768
[01:21] <FloodBotK1> Omar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:22] <Omar> here is the error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1338754/
[01:22] <MelRay> Omar: Is avconv installed?
[01:23] <Omar> yes
[01:24] <MelRay> I would check the settings....it looks like a mis match in there...
[01:24] <Omar> where exactly ?
[01:25] <Omar> I didn't touch any thing yet
[01:25] <MelRay> Before you record isn't there a set of menu options?
[01:25] <Omar> yes
[01:27] <Omar> when I was having 12.04, I found the same problem, but I fixed It and I don't remember how
[01:28] <Omar> I redid a long search, but without result :(
[01:28] <Navetz> MelRay, looks like the bug has been fixed in xorg-server, i'm going to try and get the latest version
[01:28] <Omar> ok, thank you a lot
[01:28] <MelRay> Navetz: Awesome...good luck
[01:29] <MelRay> Omar: How did you install the app? I don't see anything in Muon
[01:29] <Omar> use this ppa: ppa:blueleaflinux/ppa
[01:30] <Omar> here is the officiel page http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/FDesktopRecorder?content=147844
[01:36] <MelRay> Omar you might try compiling it from source to see if that makes a difference
[01:36] <Omar> I tried It, but I get the same error
[01:37] <Omar> the problem is with that ffmeg :P
[01:37] <Omar> ffmpeg
[01:37] <Navetz> MelRay, it's looking like my quickest option is to do a fresh install
[01:37] <Navetz> if I install from an ubuntu 12.10 live cd, can I add kde easily?
[01:38] <MelRay> Navetz: ?
[01:39] <MelRay> Just use apt-get
[01:39] <Navetz> MelRay, I wanted to give gnome a try, havent used it in a long time. But I want KDE too, can you have ubuntu and kubuntu at the same time or does that not work anymore ?
[01:39] <MelRay> Yes you can...that will be somewhat of a time consuming process depending on connection speed
[01:39] <Navetz> MelRay, ah I'll just leave it on overnight
[01:41] <Omar> MelRay: did FDesktoprecorder work for you ?
[01:42] <MelRay> I haven't tried it...
[01:44] <Omar> ok, so do you have a suggestion to solve the problem ?
[01:45] <MelRay> Omar: Uninstall what you have and try this...sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop
[01:45] <Omar> dose it work with KDE ?
[01:46] <MelRay> Here is the link to the website.....I believe it does yes...http://www.noobslab.com/2012/02/install-best-screen-recorder-on-ubuntu.html
[01:47] <Omar> ok, trying It :)
[01:48] <MelRay> Omar: Ok hope it works for you...
[01:49] <MelRay> Anyone know how to clear the scrollback buffer?
[01:49] <MelRay> In Quassel that is
[01:50] <xixor> lol, n000bs lab
[01:51] <Omar> hhhh
[01:51] <Omar> we're noobs, allways
[01:51] <MelRay> xixor: ;-)
[01:52] <xixor> lol, n000bunt000b.
[01:53] <MelRay> Amazing what you can find doing a web search....lol
[01:54] <Omar> MelRay: that gtk-recordmydesktop gived a very bad render
[01:54] <Omar> either sound and image
[01:55] <MelRay> It was worth a try......
[01:55] <MelRay> I don't know if you can tweak the settings to get something usable or not...
[01:56] <Omar> I'm trying that too :)
[01:58] <Omar> the reason why I'm insisting on FDesktoprecorder is because last time It worked with me, It gived a very nice and clean image and voice :)
[01:59] <Omar> not working at all :(
[02:00] <MelRay> Ok then use the command line which is always the best choice....just search record desktop using ffmpeg and there you go
[02:00] <Omar> ok, thank you :)
[02:02] <OerHeks> ffmpeg is not being developed anymore, use avconv instead
[02:05] <Omar> MelRay: awesome, that worked, but how to record my voice ?
[02:06] <Omar> OerHeks: thank you, but how to use It ?
[02:18] <MelRay> Omar: You can try a program called wink if you aren't using 64bit
[02:19] <Omar> even if I'm on a 64bit system, I can run 32bit programms (ia32-libs installed)
[02:20] <MelRay> There is another program called Istanbul also
[02:20] <Omar> but I think the solution of the command line is the best, just need some how to record the voice :)
[02:20] <Omar> istanbult is shit
[02:20] <Omar> it doesn't work :)
[02:20] <MelRay> Some of the links you will find can capture audio as well
[02:21] <Omar> ok, I have to verify my mic then :)
[02:21] <bazhang> Omar, no cursing here
[02:21] <bazhang> !info kazam
[02:21] <bazhang> Omar, ^
[02:21] <Omar> didn't work too
[02:21] <bazhang> sure it does
[02:22] <Omar> I tried every one
[02:22] <bazhang> !work | Omar
[02:22] <Omar> not for me :)
[02:22] <MelRay> Omar: He is asking what is the specific issue with kazam
[02:23] <Omar> I don't remember
[02:23] <bazhang> Omar, saying 'does not work" is vague and no one can help
[02:23] <Omar> but I tried hard with every programm from that list
[02:23] <Omar> one by one
[02:24] <bazhang> Omar, if you don't offer more than "doesn't work" you can expect no help
[02:24] <Omar> one by one It doesn't work, I mean that It has some error, that I searched the solution for very hardly, and I spend nights witout a result :)
[02:25] <bazhang> so give the exact errors for each one
[02:25] <MelRay> Usually a dozen or so apps that "don't work" usually indicates issues other than the app(s)
[02:25] <Omar> and now I'm discussing the command line solution
[02:25] <Omar> using ffmpeg or avconv
[02:25] <Omar> and I have a nice render with It
[02:25] <bazhang> Omar, sounds like hardware in your case if nothing works and you provide NO info at all
[02:25] <Omar> the problem is that I don't know how to record the voice
[02:26] <bazhang> thats not a software problem
[02:26] <Omar> nothing is wrong with the hardwar bazhang
[02:27] <Omar> I told MelRay that FDesktoprecorder worked for me when I was havin 12.04
[02:27] <jedihawk> recommended FTP / SCP client?
[02:27] <Omar> and that I had the same problem in the begining, but I found the solution, but now, I don"t remeber IT
[02:27] <Omar> jedihawk: use dolphin
[02:28] <jedihawk> the filesystem explorer?
[02:28] <Omar> yes
[02:28] <jedihawk> okay, I'll give it a shot. thx.
[02:28] <Omar> no problem :)
[02:29] <MelRay> bazhang: I installed kazam...but it doesn't show up with a gui or anything...is it meant to be used in conjunction with another app?
[02:29] <MelRay> After choosing run kazaqm
[02:29] <MelRay> *kazam*
[02:30] <bazhang> MelRay, then your apps menu needs  a refresh. it's there
[02:30] <MelRay> bazhang: K how do I refresh the menu?
[02:31] <simplew> i cant report bugs iin raring: ERROR: Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress?  Error: No module named 'DLFCN'
[02:31] <simplew> any hint ?
[02:31] <Omar> bazhang: the kmenu never has to refresh
[02:31] <bazhang> MelRay, either a menu editor, or after a logout/login
[02:31] <MelRay> bazhang: Ok thank you
[02:31] <Omar> MelRay: try to lance It in command line
[02:32] <MelRay> I got it...heheh
[02:32] <MelRay> Gotta roll have a good one...
[02:33] <OerHeks> simplew, join #ubuntu+1 for raring issues
[02:33] <xixor> !java
[02:33] <xixor> !jre
[02:34] <xixor> I take it the default-jre package is the one that you want to install to get a JRE to run java applets in chromium?
[02:34] <OerHeks> !crosspost | simplew
[02:40] <xixor> hm..... something called "icedtea" plugin seemed work.  silly linux
[02:58] <ste_> allo
[02:58] <xixor> hi.
[02:58] <ste_> . o O SaluT / IN
[02:58] <ste_> xixor: hi
[02:58] <ste_> xixor: I am new at IRC
[02:59] <ste_> I just installed Quassel and 've connected
[02:59] <simplew> !seen
[02:59] <simplew> !list
[02:59] <ste_> I donnut installed any script like bsmax script
[02:59] <ste_> is it ok ?
[02:59] <simplew> !h
[02:59] <simplew> !help
[02:59] <simplew> !url
[03:00] <simplew> !mouse
[03:00] <ste_> !mouse
[03:00] <ste_> !patience
[03:00] <ste_> should i install an irc script ?
[03:01] <ste_> where is a good debian irc chan ?
[03:01] <OerHeks> !alis | ste_
[03:02] <ste_> OerHeks: thank you
[03:03] <meshwu> test
[03:06] <xixor> ste_: New at IRC?  Cool.  I've been on irc since 1995
[03:06] <xixor> ste_: the great thing about irc, is that in all that time, it hasn't changed a bit.
[03:15] <bentkus> yeah
[03:15] <bentkus> it works
[03:15] <bentkus> =]
[03:18] <OerHeks> :-)
[03:29] <Obsidian1723> xixor: right on. 1993 for me.
[03:37] <jackies> anyhone here
[03:41] <Obsidian1723> yes
[03:43] <Obsidian1723> Wasx that all you needed? To see if someone was here? Ok. Some one is. Now what?
[03:44] <ste_> nice chann
[03:44] <ste_> see u
[03:44] <ste_> SaluT / OuT O O .
[05:03] <user> msg NickServ identify nicomicro93tobias
[05:04] <OerHeks> user time to change password .. nevermind
[05:19] <muji> hello fellas, i jsut got to reinstall kubuntu again, and can someone help me decrease my mouse sensitivaty?
[05:19] <muji> my touchpad
[05:19] <JimmyJohnny> muji yes, tell your mouse how wonderful it is, build up its self-esteem
[05:20] <muji> i tried that jimmyjohnny, but that didn't work out
[05:20] <muji> lol
[05:20] <JimmyJohnny> :)
[05:20] <muji> but the touchpad touch sensitivaty
[05:48] <muji> hey guys
[05:49] <muji> can i get some help installing the new nvidia driver?
[05:51] <muji> join #ubuntu
[05:51] <muji> hmm
[06:47] <muji> hello guys, how can i see which version of nvidia gpu i have? i jsut tried to install the newest graphics driver, but don't know if it worked or not
[06:48] <DarthFrog> muji: "lspci" will include the graphics chip ID.
[06:48] <muji> DarthFrog: im actually looking for the driver version
[06:48] <DarthFrog> Mine, for example, shows: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 570 HD] (rev a1)
[06:48] <DarthFrog> You asked for GPU identification.
[06:49] <muji> oh oops, my bad i should rephrase that
[06:49] <muji> how can i se which nvidia grpahics driver i have?
[06:49] <DarthFrog> Run "nvidia-settings".
[06:50] <muji> says i'm not using the nvidia x driver
[06:51] <DarthFrog>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what's going on.
[06:51] <TheLordOfTime> muji, did you install an nvidia driver?
[06:51] <muji> TheLordOfTime: yea i got the neweest one that came out yestarday
[06:53] <TheLordOfTime> but did you install it :P
[06:53] <muji> thats what im trying to find out lol
[06:53] <muji> i went into the alt+ctrl+f1 thing
[06:53] <muji> logged in
[06:53] <muji> and um did chmod +x filename
[06:54] <muji> it was a .run file
[06:55] <muji> unless i was supposed to do sh?
[06:57] <muji> gonna give it another try, wish me luck
[06:58] <TheLordOfTime> was going to say jsut chmodding it isn't enough and you have to execute the .run
[06:58] <TheLordOfTime> but i don't trust .runs anyways
[07:00] <muji> crap, so how do i close xserver? lol
[07:00] <muji> ah nvm
[07:00] <muji> init 3
[07:26] <invariant> Will 12.04.* be able to run 4.9.3?
[07:39] <dennis97519> hi
[08:19] <knuckleduster> what's up dudes/dudettes?
[08:19] <knuckleduster> trying out irc
[08:55] <nicekiwi> how can I make Dolphin look like this? http://draco23hack.deviantart.com/art/Audi-colors-297073099
[09:03] <nicekiwi> sure.. everyones off installing steam :P
[09:06] <lordievader> nicekiwi: Do you know what theme he/she uses?
[09:07] <nicekiwi> Lord_Drachenblut, nope. but a theme cant chnage the structure of Dolphins UI can it?
[09:09] <nicekiwi> lordievader, nope. but a theme cant chnage the structure of Dolphins UI can it?
[09:14] <lordievader> nicekiwi: Nope it is some kind of a theme, download the file that is provided.
[09:16] <nicekiwi> lordievader, there is no file..
[09:17] <nicekiwi> or is there..
[09:17] <lordievader> nicekiwi: http://www.deviantart.com/download/297073099/audi_colors_by_draco23hack-d4wvb2j.zip
[09:18] <nicekiwi> lordievader, its a colour theme. thats ALL. that does NOTHING to the UI of Dolphin apart form maybe colouring it
[09:19] <nicekiwi> lordievader, does Dolphin in that picture look like stock dolphin? All the buttons are in different places or hidden etc
[09:19] <lordievader> nicekiwi: No, I have to agree to that.
[09:19] <nicekiwi> Indeed, ive seen ppl do that before.. but have no idea how
[09:20] <lordievader> nicekiwi: Perhaps a good idea to ask him?
[09:20] <nicekiwi> yeah, i think so
[09:23] <lordievader> Brb, things are failing around me, got to reboot.
[09:29] <lordievader> Back.
[09:30] <nicekiwi> yay
[09:32] <lordievader> Firewall killed my nfs link, dolphin didn't like that, and therefore kde refused to do anything anymore.
[09:42] <Kalidarn> i've actually had that happen with sshfs
[09:42] <Kalidarn> found that killing the ssh service fixed it
[09:44] <lordievader> Forgot to add those machines that use the nfs to the list.
[09:50] <Smurphy> Hmmm. So far 4.9.3 rules nicely ...
[10:16] <aymen_> hi
[10:17] <an1> Hey. I want to open a lot of c, py and txt files in one go in kate. They are hierarchically stored in subfolders. Can someone help me open them all in 1 go? Im trying for something like {ls -R | kate}. also, i want to exclude the .git directory while doing this.
[10:28] <nicekiwi> lordievader, seems u can configure stock dolphin to look like that
[10:29] <lordievader> nicekiwi: Ok good to know, but how?
[10:30] <nicekiwi> if you right click it, you can unlock it and drag it to the side then just click again and select show icon only
[10:30] <hateball> an1: you will want to use a for loop
[10:31] <nicekiwi> lordievader, u can also set the position though the same right click menu.
[10:32] <hateball> an1: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_09_01.html has some decent examples. otherwise you can try #bash
[10:32] <an1> hateball: thank you!!
[10:33] <lordievader> nicekiwi: I see, ok thank you for letting me know :)
[10:34] <nicekiwi> :) no worries.
[10:36] <hateball> an1: actually... there is a plugin in kate for doing this :p
[10:37] <hateball> an1: go into preferences, plugin called "file system view" or such. granted it doesnt search recursively but easy way to open all files in one dir
[10:39] <hateball> an1: actually... it even does recursive :>
[10:39] <an1> hateball: oh that works! pretty much what i wanted. i was halfway through writing by script :P
[10:39] <an1> Thank you!
[10:40] <hateball> not sure if you can use a filter in the filter view tho, to exclude .git
[10:40] <hateball> folder view*
[10:40] <an1> thats ok. Only think was kate gives a lot of warnings while trying to open the binary files under git folder. Thats what i wanted to avoid. otherwise its a hidden folder anyways
[10:41] <hateball> nah... if you drag a folder it will still open everything below, regardless of filter
[10:42] <hateball> oh well
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:50] <invariant> Is there a 'K' counterpart of openoffice calc/gnumeric?
[11:51] <invariant> Will 12.04.* be able to run 4.9.3?
[12:01] <jedihawk> anyone awake in heres?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> jedihawk, nope , still asleep :)
[12:06] <jedihawk> BluesKaj: :-)
[12:06] <jedihawk> I couldn't sleep, so I thought I'd get something done.
[12:07] <jedihawk> had a dumb question about why my monitors turn off after five mins or so.  do you know why this happens?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu version jedihawk?
[12:08] <jedihawk> 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:32:08 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[12:08] <Peace-> hi buddies
[12:10] <BluesKaj> hi Peace-
[12:11] <BluesKaj> jedihawk, that looks like the latest 12.10 kernel
[12:11] <jedihawk> yup, but I made a mistake and didn't install the 64-bit version.  [forehead smack]  I'll probably re-install later on (again).
[12:14] <lordievader> jedihawk: How much ram do you got installed?
[12:14] <jedihawk> Lord_Drachenblut: 4G
[12:14] <jedihawk> which used to be a lot.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> jedihawk, I had the same problem but setting the screensaver to 180 mins in system settings>display & monitor seems to have worked here ..power management is basically disabled here as well
[12:15] <lordievader> jedihawk: Ah yes then you do want to get the 64-bit version.
[12:16] <jedihawk> ohh, setting it higher rather than turning it off?  never thought of that.  I'll try it...
[12:17] <BluesKaj> jedihawk, but I'm on desktop , so laptops are a diferent story
[12:18] <jedihawk> sure.  I'm on a desktop machine.
[12:23] <san> Hi Guys
[12:23] <san> i need one help
[12:24] <san> instead of kubuntu normal desktop with widgets i want the simple desktop with icons
[12:24] <san> is there anyway to do this
[12:25] <Peace-> san: sure
[12:25] <san> Peace Can u please tell me how to do this?
[12:25] <Peace-> san: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopQJa356.png
[12:26] <Peace-> san: right click on desktop => destop=settings => search and launch
[12:27] <san> yes Peace i did that
[12:28] <san> but now its opening tablet interface
[12:28] <hateball> isnt "folder view" a "simple desktop"
[12:28] <hateball> afaik
[12:28] <Peace-> san: ah sorry
[12:28] <Peace-> san: yes instead of searcha nd lauch you need to use folderview
[12:28] <san> ok.. let me try
[12:28] <Peace-> that's all
[12:29] <san> yes now its working
[12:30] <san> one more thing.. i want to use nautilus for desktop icons
[12:31] <san> i have changed my icons but in desktop its not showing those icons
[12:32] <Peace-> nautilus ?
[12:33] <san> yes
[12:33] <Peace-> dolphin is far better than nautilus anyway if you want use nautilus to open folders i guess you need to go on file associations
[12:33] <Peace-> in systemsettings
[12:34] <Peace-> san: or just search this http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopm31619.png
[12:34] <san> ok.. will try it.. Thanks Peace
[12:34] <Peace-> san: then set what you like http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopc31619.png i have dolphin
[12:48] <Syria> Hello !! My network printers status is paused? how can I change that please?
[12:52] <Peace-> Syria: open your browser
[12:53] <Peace-> Syria: http://localhost:631/printers/
[12:53] <Peace-> Syria: select your printer
[12:53] <Syria> Peace-: Then?
[12:54] <Peace-> Syria: for example here i can handle my printer http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopn31619.png
[12:55] <Peace-> Syria: i have my printer in idle mode but i can pause it so you should be able to put your printer in your prefered mode http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopV31619.png
[12:59] <Syria> sorry lost the connection.
[13:01] <Peace-> Syria: you did it ?
[13:01] <Peace-> Syria: did you get this ? http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopV31619.png
[13:01] <Peace-> ?
[13:01] <Syria> Peace-:  One moment please, I will try it.
[13:04] <Syria> Peace-:  The printer status has changed into "Idle" , After resuming it.
[13:04] <Peace-> Syria: so it should work
[13:04] <Syria> Peace-:  I will test it. One moment please.
[13:06] <Syria> Peace-: It works! :D
[13:06] <Syria> Peace-:  Thnx buddy.
[13:06] <Peace-> Syria: :)
[13:06] <Syria> Peace-: May I know what is the name of the theme that you are using?
[13:06] <Peace-> Syria: plasma theme ?
[13:07] <Syria> Peace-: Yes.
[13:07] <Peace-> Syria: icon is kfaenza , plasma theme is my own that is called nowardev , panels layout is my own layout that is nowardev double panel
[13:08] <Syria> Peace-:  http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/nowardev+theme+dark+wallpaper?content=142058 <<< this one right?
[13:09] <Peace-> Syria: nope that is my first version it's this http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopC32072.png
[13:22] <Syria> Peace-: How Can I add that double panel please?
[13:22] <Peace-> Syria: have you 12.04 or 12.10?
[13:23] <Syria> Peace-: 12.10
[13:24] <Peace-> Syria: this is my own debian package that i did of my little software , you need to know that with gnome3 layout you could get plasma-crash . anyway it will run again and the you can even use gnome3 layout
[13:24] <Peace-> Syria: do you want anyway ?
[13:25] <Peace-> if yes you can download this https://launchpad.net/~nowardev/+archive/ppa/+files/plasma-panels-collection_2.0.2-1ubuntu0~ppa1_all.deb
[13:26] <Syria> Peace-: Yes I like its idea and I am not using gnome3.
[13:27] <Peace-> Syria: ok install that package and then you can use what you want right click on the desktop => add panel =>Nowardev double panel  =>  http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopw32072.png
[13:30] <Syria> Peace-:  Downloading dependencies....
[13:30] <Peace-> Syria: yes  you need widgets
[13:37] <Syria> Peace-:  It works thank you :)
[13:37] <Peace-> Syria: good
[13:37] <Syria> Peace-: I like it. Good job.
[13:37] <Peace-> Syria: you can do it as you like
[13:38] <Peace-> Syria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAB1whqH9n8
[13:47] <yossarianuk> got a few bugs with Kubuntu on my netbook - (I have various desktops and they are all fine)
[13:47] <yossarianuk> i.e - the default netbook settings (which are automatically enabled on the netbook) are unusable
[13:48] <yossarianuk> there are crashes and after a few mins am I unable to launch any app
[13:48] <yossarianuk> if I change the netbook to use the standard desktop (workspace behaviour)
[13:48] <noaXess> hey all
[13:49] <yossarianuk> its fine - unless I change *any* setting in desktop effects, no matter what setting I change the system is unusable until I rm -rf .kde and restart
[13:49] <noaXess> is there a plasmoid for tracking times on projects, like ktimetracker does?
[13:49] <yossarianuk> (this only effects my netbook which is ryunning intergrated intel graphics)
[13:50] <yossarianuk> nvidia desktops are 100% fine (in fact kubuntu 12.10 is possibly the best I have ran - with the exception of arch)
[13:51] <tsimpson> yossarianuk: you should report bugs on launchpad so the developers can track them
[14:01] <yossarianuk> tsimpson - will do
[14:02] <yossarianuk> (need to wait until I get home so I have my netbook..
 trying to not swear here ..... how do i keep my desktop settings after playing a fullscreen game?  i'm running dual desktop, and fullscreen games TOTALLY bork my settings ... i have to log out and back in to get my desktop back <grrrrrrrr> EXTREMELY <grrrrrrrrr>
[14:37] <Peace-> artao: this is due to game
[14:37] <artao> and it's NOT the graphics card
[14:38] <artao> no. this is due to the window manager
[14:38] <Peace-> i have discuss this with aseigo
[14:38] <artao> if it's due to the game, then it's EVERY game
[14:38] <Peace-> with urban terror i got very weird behavior with panels
[14:38] <artao> it happened when i had an ATI card, and it still happens with an nvidia card
[14:39] <Peace-> artao: join on #kde
[14:39] <artao> yeah, it was UrT i jsut came out of ... but it happens with speed dreams, torc, fliight gear, etc
[14:39] <Peace-> ask in that place it should be present one of kwin devs
[14:39] <artao> mmk
[14:39] <Peace-> artao: btw without games you should just run well
[14:40] <artao> whut?
[14:40] <Peace-> artao: i don't remember well but games sets X stuff and then they doesn't turn back the settings
[14:40] <artao> hmm
[14:40] <Peace-> that's the problem i think to remember
[14:40] <artao> i now remember why i stopped gaming under linux .. and dual boot win 7
[14:41] <Peace-> anyway if you find the kwin devs you should get some tricks
[14:41] <artao> anyhow, i need to log out-in now
[14:42] <Peace-> artao: this man is the kwin dev http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/
[14:42] <Peace-> artao: you can contact him
[14:42] <Peace-> artao: or just report a bug in the kde bug report website
[14:43] <Peace-> artao: here https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
[16:13] <ozzzy> well... kubuntu is working better now it appears
[16:17] <ovidiu-florin> hello, my Run Command program froze, how can I restart it?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, kdesudo krunner
[16:40] <BluesKaj> in the terminal
[16:41] <Anonymous_> hello
[16:41] <Anonymous_> ??
[16:41] <BluesKaj> !ask
[16:43] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: thank's
[16:44] <ovidiu-florin> I've killed it, ansd started it , but it won't show up on alt+F2
[16:45] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, right click on the desktop , choose run command ..try that
[16:46] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: thank's it works now
[16:47] <ozzzy> how do I get rid of that annoying glow around the active window
[16:47] <BluesKaj> yeah, ovidiu-florin , that command is the way i usually call krunner
[16:49] <BluesKaj> ozzzy, system-settings>workspace appearance , one of the settings there might be it
[16:53] <ozzzy> BluesKaj, tks
[16:53] <ozzzy> man that was annoying
[16:56] <WineQQ_> hi@all  some question to you guys:  I installed kubuntu 12.04 a while ago and now ,for gaming, i installed win7 in a seperated partition i just  created. After that i repaired grub bootloader with the kubuntu install cd  .. and now my stupid question: How can i start win7 ? ...because after repairing grub  linux shows up as usual but i have no option to choose from
[16:58] <tsimpson> WineQQ_: I believe you have to hold down left shift, or sometimes escape, while booting for the grub menu to show, it's hidden by default until you press one of those keys
[16:59] <Arjuna> WineQQ there is a package kde-config-grub2 with this you can try to edit grub menu the grafical way the options are in kde syssettings and there the boot or start(dont know englishh name)
[17:00] <BluesKaj> WineQQ_,once in kubuntu , open a terminal and run sudo os-prober , then sudo update-grub
[17:01] <WineQQ_> ok thanks so far guys , tsimpsons solution seems the easiest (as the others are not that difficult to manage to), but does it work ?
[17:02] <tsimpson> try it and see, remember to try both. if it doesn't work, come back and try the other options given
[17:04] <WineQQ_> yeah ;D got u  ... so thank u all guys u are great :)
[17:07] <Arjuna> i have a very big problem i updated last night from 12.04 to 12.10 and after reboot x server with kde doesnt start, it looks like a crash at kdm start but sometimes i get the konsole login message an can log in and work untill i try ctrl+alt+F7 then i cant go back to tty1, have also 2 kernel version available 33 and 2? and the 12.04 boot is also available but none of this options work, graphic driver is some version from amd page for hd radeon
[17:07] <lordievader> Arjuna: You did a manual install of the AMD/ATI driver?
[17:07] <Arjuna> yes
[17:08] <Arjuna> package creation failed sadly
[17:08] <lordievader> Arjuna: There is your problem, manual installed drivers usually break with a kernel upgrade. Try reinstalling the driver.
[17:09] <Arjuna> doesnt work not even with --force
[17:09] <Arjuna> tried this already was also my first thought
[17:09] <Arjuna> can have a look in install log and try to tell here
[17:10] <lordievader> Arjuna: What card do you have in your system?
[17:10] <Arjuna> hd radeon x3820 x2
[17:11] <lordievader> Arjuna: Hmm same series as my hd3850.. legacy nowadays. I couldn't get the driver to work in 12.10.
[17:12] <Arjuna> oh that would be very bad
[17:13] <Arjuna> which driver do you use aktually
[17:13] <lordievader> Arjuna: Got to eat, there is probably someone who can assist you in this, good luck.
[17:13] <lordievader> Arjuna: Now the open-source radeon driver, I believe.
[17:13] <Arjuna> ok thanks and good hunger
[17:16] <Arjuna> ok if this is also my prob how to uninstall the legacy driver which isnt installed via dpkg packages
[17:17] <Arjuna> ok got two cmds will try first be back surly
[17:18] <Arjuna> andf if anyone ideas i would be very happy
[17:30] <Arjuna> f....... uninstall seems to work forgot sadly that the default resolution from EDID doesnt work so i have on all tty inculding the x "out of range" is there a shortcut
[17:30] <Arjuna> to change
[17:31] <DarthFrog> Arjuna: You should check the docs with that ATI driver.  I suspect that they've stopped supporting your old card.  You'll be better served by using the radeon driver.
[17:33] <Arjuna> at the amd page there is a driver for my series that also worked fine(only watermark) on 12.04
[17:33] <DarthFrog> "dpkg --list | grep fglrx"  should tell you what's installed.
[17:34] <Arjuna> yes i had a picture
[17:34] <Arjuna> +if
[17:34] <DarthFrog> Whatever that means.
[17:35] <Arjuna> my monitor say "out of range"
[17:37] <Arjuna> i previously removed the fglrx and the manual installed fglrx and now default resolution has change to undisplayable one
[17:38] <Arjuna> now i cant do anything without another monitor
[17:38] <Arjuna> which i need atm to write here
[17:39] <DarthFrog> Press "CTL-ALT-F1" to switch to a virtual terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon"
[17:39] <DarthFrog> Then reboot.
[17:39] <Arjuna> tty 1-6 also in wrong res but will try to type blind
[17:41] <DarthFrog> No, don't.  Just reboot, then try again.
[17:41] <Arjuna> reboot ghives me every tie wrong resolution
[17:42] <Arjuna> tje=time
[17:44] <Arjuna> ok be right back have to kidnap my wifes monitor to install radeon driver and set default res in xorg
[17:50] <scorpking> is there an alternate image for kubuntu 12.10 or am I missing something? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/12.10/release/
[17:51] <Peace-> mm
[17:51] <Peace-> scorpking: wait
[17:52] <scarface> hello everybody...
[17:52] <scarface> how are you gui's ?
[17:52] <scorpking> Peace-: wait, google, view HTML source = same results ;)
[17:53]  * scorpking needs to put kubuntu on an old machine..
[17:53] <Peace-> i have 13.04 alternate xD
[17:53] <Peace->  i need to find the 12.10 version
[17:55] <Peace-> scorpking: mmm i guess that the alternate image is included on the normal version read here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.10-release
[17:56] <Peace-> scorpking: because of i install always alphas i am not pretty sure
[17:56] <scorpking> Peace-: thanks
[17:56] <Quintasan> Peace-: We have dropped alternate iso images
[17:57] <Quintasan> As for reasons why
[17:57] <scorpking> Quintasan: is there a way to disable gui install?
[17:57] <Peace-> well i use the mini cd :D
[17:57] <Peace-> scorpking: just download the mini stuff iso
[17:57] <Quintasan> I can think of not enough people to test isos and small number of users AFAIR
[17:57] <Quintasan> yofel: ^ any input on that?
[17:57] <Peace-> scorpking: then when you get the terminal you can do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktopp
[17:58] <scorpking> Peace-: that is good unless you donwload at 20KB/s like today
[17:58] <Peace-> Quintasan: here btw there is alternate but IT'S 13.04 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[17:58] <Quintasan> Peace-: oh, no idea why it is ther
[17:59] <scorpking> anyways, thanks guys.. i'll mange :)
[18:00] <scorpking> manage*
[18:00] <yofel> for the reason as Quintasan said, and yeah, you'll have to use the mini.iso
[18:00] <scorpking> i'll setup a local repo first. maybe that woulds speed things up
[18:01]  * scorpking goes off to grap the 12.10 apt-mirror repos..
[18:03] <lordievader> Arjuna: Hey you still around, how is it going with your ATI/AMD problem?
[18:05] <MySystem> yeah i have my kde back
[18:10] <MySystem> lots of thx to all who helped me(as Arjuna) fix this now i only have to get fglrx working and set default resolution
[18:11] <lordievader> MySystem: Oh hey you are Arjuna? How did you get the driver working?
[18:12] <MySystem> not realy Arjuna is my wife *smile* and i dont get the driver working yet i plugged the monitor from my wife and installed radeon driver then reboot res set and here i am
[18:13] <lordievader> MySystem: Ah ok, so you followed the same path I did. Remove the driver and use the open-source radeon driver ;)
[18:14] <MySystem> for first yes to see if anything else is working since update now i try to get the legacy working
[18:21] <MelRay> ubottu:
[18:25] <MelRay> I'm looking to learn and understand the process of updating the kernel. I usually see a command mkinit ldconfig, etc. Where can I get an overview of the procedural steps to follow when dealing with updating the kernel?
[18:31] <MySystem> how is the kernel dev package named (3.2.0-33)
[18:33] <MySystem> oh sry need the source package
[18:35] <SIR_Taco> MelRay: you're looking to build/compile your own kernel?
[18:36] <MySystem> no hope amd driver will do this for me
[18:36] <MelRay> SIR_Taco: Eventually yes...but I want to know up front what all the different steps are to get to that point...
[18:39] <SIR_Taco> MelRay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile    (I only know what they're calling the "Old Fashioned Debian Way", but that looks like a pretty good resource for you to start)
[18:39] <MelRay> SIR_Taco: Ok thanks for the assist!
[18:40] <SIR_Taco> and there are links for additional documentation at the bottom of that
[18:40] <SIR_Taco> you're welcome
[19:10]  * ozzzy is starting to get the hang of kubuntu
[19:10] <xixor> oh yeah?
[19:10]  * DarthFrog welcomes ozzzy to the Light Side of The Force.
[19:10] <xixor> wait, I thought linux was the dark side?
[19:10] <ozzzy> have to try to forget the mandriva stuff
[19:12] <DarthFrog> ozzzy:  "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[19:12] <DarthFrog> That'll update your system to the latest 'n greatest KDE SC, which has just been released.
[19:12] <ozzzy> in a minute
[19:15]  * ozzzy is ranting because xdvdshrink isn't in the repositories
[19:15] <ozzzy> can I install from an rpm in this distro
[19:15] <yofel> usually no
[19:15] <DarthFrog> ozzzy:  Try k9copy
[19:16] <yofel> there is 'alien' which can try to convert a package though. Use at your own risk
[19:16] <ozzzy> I have... and I do use it
[19:16] <ozzzy> LOL
[19:17] <MelRay> Just compile and install that way...
[19:18] <ozzzy> nothing to compile... I can repackage
[19:19] <DarthFrog> ozzzy:  Ha!  I just Googled for xdvdshrink.  You're the developer!  You can make your own deb file. :-)
[19:19] <DarthFrog> Hmm, last updated 2007.  A wee bit stale, no?
[19:21] <Robtygart> ozzzy: is that based of the windows DVD shrink?
[19:24] <Shura_> Hi, i have an error when i go to systemsettings → Localization → System language (something related to language-selector.py)
[19:24] <Robtygart> http://www.dvdshrink.org/what_en.php
[19:24] <Shura_> And some apps are not translated
[19:26] <yofel> Shura_: go to country/region & language and add your language to the preferred languages
[19:26] <Shura_> Already done
[19:26] <yofel> language-selector is broken in quantal
[19:26] <Shura_> I see…
[19:26] <yofel> which application isn't translated? and which language?
[19:26] <Shura_> amarok
[19:27] <Shura_> (no french available)
[19:27] <yofel> ah, that's an amaork issue. The french translations weren't done for the Amarok 2.6 release and weren't shipped
[19:27] <yofel> they'll be back in 2.7
[19:27] <Shura_> skanlite too
[19:28] <Shura_> Oh ok
[19:28] <yofel> as for skanlite, hm...
[19:28] <Shura_> jockey-kde
[19:28] <Shura_> And some others i guess
[19:30] <Shura_> All of them were translated in precise
[19:31] <ozzzy> hehe
[19:31] <ozzzy> it was repackaged for deb back in the day.... was available for all the rpm distros, deb and whatever lindows used
[19:31] <yofel> there was some restructuring in quantal which resulted in a different handling of translations
[19:32] <yofel> (language-selector is a different issue though)
[19:32] <Shura_> ok ok
[19:32] <Shura_> thanks for the news, i'll wait
[19:32] <yofel> and some things seem to still be broken :/
[19:32] <ozzzy> Robtygart: no... when I wrote it there was no 'shrinker' around... it's written in PERL and BASH and is basically a front-end for the several disparate utilities needed to make dvds
[19:33] <yofel> skanlite seems to be a bug
[19:33] <DarthFrog> ozzzy: You can have your own PPA for your projects in Kubuntu.
[19:33] <DarthFrog> !ppa | ozzzy
[19:33] <ozzzy> I don't write much for linux anymore.... mostly I'm writing firmware for our products
[19:34] <DarthFrog> ozzzy: Still a PPA will make it easy to distribute them to K/Ubuntu.
[19:34] <ozzzy> I had a 'poorman's PVR'... a regex-based music player... xdvdshrink and a few utilities I wrote for myself
[19:34] <Robtygart> ozzzy: that is really cool, I just downloaded it,.
[19:34] <ozzzy> hey... if it works wonderful... I haven't done any maintenance in a few years
[19:36] <Robtygart> I am going to need to read the  Documentation
[19:36] <Robtygart> Thanks
[19:38] <Robtygart> ozzzy: if I google your name "Ozzzy" Will I come up with any more of your programs?
[19:42] <ozzzy> Robtygart: probably not
[19:46] <alessio_> lol
[19:46] <alessio_> ciao
[20:01] <ozzzy> rekonq seems pretty good
[20:26] <DarthFrog> ozzzy: rekonq is a version of Konqueror using Webkit.
[20:27] <DarthFrog> instead of khtml.
[20:27] <DarthFrog> I believe (but don't know) Webkit is Apple's enhanced version of khtml.
[20:48] <ozzzy> damn... cinepaint isn't available
[20:51] <Robtygart> ozzzy: is cinepaint-resources the same? In the package manager.
[20:51] <ozzzy> Robtygart: dunno... lemme check
[20:53] <ozzzy> don't see it
[20:53] <Robtygart> odd
[20:53] <oy> ozzzy, try krita?
[20:54] <ozzzy> yeah... it's pretty basic
[20:54] <Robtygart> when I type cinepaint-resources it gives me create-resources. Sorry I read that wrong
[20:54] <ozzzy> and the gimp still only works at 8-bit
[20:55] <oy> krita is good with 16-bit + HDR painting
[23:28] <robtygart> It sure is quiet here. Thats a good sign right?
[23:29] <OerHeks> hi robtygart, sure it is, less questions, less problems.
[23:29] <robtygart> lol just shows how great Kubuntu is.
[23:31] <ablyss> yup
[23:47] <MySystem> did anybody know why installation via deb packages for old amd/ati graphic drivers fail on 12.10 while make (my first thought did the build in compiler change or update but dont know )