[00:06] I recently noticed that I can't left-click the icon on my decorations to access the menu, only right click works... [00:41] sup [00:42] my mouse stops working without apparent reason, any one knows why? i see that this is a problem that has happened to other ubuntu users [00:43] simplew, if it is an usb mouse, plug it out an back in again? [00:43] despite my best attempts to kill my mouse, mine still works [00:43] oh, please don't crosspost [00:43] OerHeks: sometimes work, others doesnt [00:43] !backports [00:43] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [00:43] !packaging [00:43] The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring [00:47] Hello can someone help me debug my laptop running kubuntu. I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 recently. Everything went fine then I went to login the other day and everytime I type my password into the login screen, I get a black screen for a split second (command screen with writing but it goes away before I can read it) and it brings me back to the login screen === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [00:48] Hm...... [00:49] should I allow unsupported and pre-release updates in muon I wonder? [00:49] Navetz: have you tried tailing a log file? [00:50] jedihawk, not really sure how personally, had a friend do it for me today and it said a lot of things about eth0 being disabled so I'm assuming the wireless drivers aren't working [00:51] do you have the thing in front of you now? [00:51] yes [00:51] Ctrl-Alt-F1. got a login prompt? [00:51] i can go into consol login from the logiin screen [00:52] whatever works for ya. [00:52] hi all [00:52] yo [00:53] any eclipse users here? [00:53] ohhh I think i have some more info. If I go to tty7 iI see aned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned. Then it says starting apache server, then it says checking battery state... This is the screen that shows up for a split second when I try to login [00:53] Is it possible to keep Kontakts synced with the addressbook in Gmail? [00:54] jedihawk, logged in [00:55] i've probably java / eclipse related problem [00:55] Navetz: cd /var/log [00:55] Navetz: tail -f messages [00:56] have an hour or so before my flight [00:56] Navetz: switch back to your GUI login and try again, then check the log. [00:57] jedihawk, how do I get back to GUI login? do I need to reboot? [00:58] Navetz: Ctrl-Alt-F7 or F8. Ctrl-Alt-F* [00:59] ctrl-alt-f7 seems to be frozen at that black screen. I'll reboot, try to login, then read logs [00:59] Navetz: Try tty 1 [00:59] MelRay, I have tty1 [00:59] just not gui [01:00] Navetz: If you login on tty1 you can't start your gui? [01:00] kroku, try #eclips [01:01] MelRay, I can never start my GUI, the closest I get is my login screen, it flashes black when I enter my password and brings me back to my login screen [01:02] Navetz: Ahhhh... [01:02] Navetz: a while ago, my gui login screen broke (still have no idea why) so I'd switch to the first tty (Ctrl-Alt-F1), log in, then manually launch the gui with 'startx'. did that for a while. worked fine as I didn't reboot very often. [01:04] I wonder if a xorg.conf file got created somehow....might be a .conf file screwing it up...or vice versa [01:05] thnx OreHeks [01:05] I tried startx, says it's already running and to delete a lock [01:05] cd /var/log ; tail -f Xorg.* [01:05] my debugging in linux involves no tailing of log files. I would be mv ~/.kde to ~/.kde_old. moving xorg.conf files around, dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current .... I'm also not good at fixing linux with a poor track record [01:06] Navetz: do ps -ax and see what has created the lock [01:07] Kill the process [01:11] the log shows uploading evdev, then next line shows ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log. Next line:Server terminated successfully (0). closing log file [01:12] in xorg.failsave.log I see xf860OpenConsol: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interruped system call [01:12] MelRay, How do I tell what's created the lock from ps -ax? [01:12] You might look for the .old xorg log and compare it to the current and look for variation [01:14] kk [01:16] Navetz: This might be a possibility to try....https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/441653 [01:16] Launchpad bug 441653 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "radeon graphics mode and console does not start - xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interrupted system call" [High,Fix released] [01:17] MelRay, this might just be it, ill look into it thanks [01:17] Navetz: Sure [01:21] hi every body, I installed FDesktoprecorder, but when I start recording, It doesn't, something wrong with ffmpeg. here is the message: ffmpeg version 0.8.3-6:0.8.3-6ubuntu2, Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the Libav developers [01:21] built on Oct 1 2012 12:54:15 with gcc 4.7.2 [01:21] *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED *** [01:21] This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead. [01:21] [x11grab @ 0xc7cf60] device: :0.0 -> display: :0.0 x: 0 y: 0 width: 1366 height: 768 [01:21] Omar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:22] here is the error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1338754/ [01:22] Omar: Is avconv installed? [01:23] yes [01:24] I would check the settings....it looks like a mis match in there... [01:24] where exactly ? [01:25] I didn't touch any thing yet [01:25] Before you record isn't there a set of menu options? [01:25] yes [01:27] when I was having 12.04, I found the same problem, but I fixed It and I don't remember how [01:28] I redid a long search, but without result :( [01:28] MelRay, looks like the bug has been fixed in xorg-server, i'm going to try and get the latest version [01:28] ok, thank you a lot [01:28] Navetz: Awesome...good luck [01:29] Omar: How did you install the app? I don't see anything in Muon [01:29] use this ppa: ppa:blueleaflinux/ppa [01:30] here is the officiel page http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/FDesktopRecorder?content=147844 [01:36] Omar you might try compiling it from source to see if that makes a difference [01:36] I tried It, but I get the same error [01:37] the problem is with that ffmeg :P [01:37] ffmpeg [01:37] MelRay, it's looking like my quickest option is to do a fresh install [01:37] if I install from an ubuntu 12.10 live cd, can I add kde easily? [01:38] Navetz: ? [01:39] Just use apt-get [01:39] MelRay, I wanted to give gnome a try, havent used it in a long time. But I want KDE too, can you have ubuntu and kubuntu at the same time or does that not work anymore ? [01:39] Yes you can...that will be somewhat of a time consuming process depending on connection speed [01:39] MelRay, ah I'll just leave it on overnight [01:41] MelRay: did FDesktoprecorder work for you ? [01:42] I haven't tried it... [01:44] ok, so do you have a suggestion to solve the problem ? [01:45] Omar: Uninstall what you have and try this...sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop [01:45] dose it work with KDE ? [01:46] Here is the link to the website.....I believe it does yes...http://www.noobslab.com/2012/02/install-best-screen-recorder-on-ubuntu.html [01:47] ok, trying It :) [01:48] Omar: Ok hope it works for you... [01:49] Anyone know how to clear the scrollback buffer? [01:49] In Quassel that is [01:50] lol, n000bs lab [01:51] hhhh [01:51] we're noobs, allways [01:51] xixor: ;-) [01:52] lol, n000bunt000b. [01:53] Amazing what you can find doing a web search....lol [01:54] MelRay: that gtk-recordmydesktop gived a very bad render [01:54] either sound and image [01:55] It was worth a try...... [01:55] I don't know if you can tweak the settings to get something usable or not... [01:56] I'm trying that too :) [01:58] the reason why I'm insisting on FDesktoprecorder is because last time It worked with me, It gived a very nice and clean image and voice :) [01:59] not working at all :( [02:00] Ok then use the command line which is always the best choice....just search record desktop using ffmpeg and there you go [02:00] ok, thank you :) [02:02] ffmpeg is not being developed anymore, use avconv instead [02:05] MelRay: awesome, that worked, but how to record my voice ? [02:06] OerHeks: thank you, but how to use It ? === Vito is now known as Vito_away [02:18] Omar: You can try a program called wink if you aren't using 64bit [02:19] even if I'm on a 64bit system, I can run 32bit programms (ia32-libs installed) [02:20] There is another program called Istanbul also [02:20] but I think the solution of the command line is the best, just need some how to record the voice :) [02:20] istanbult is shit [02:20] it doesn't work :) [02:20] Some of the links you will find can capture audio as well [02:21] ok, I have to verify my mic then :) [02:21] Omar, no cursing here [02:21] !info kazam [02:21] kazam (source: kazam): Easy to use application for recording on-screen action. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 94 kB, installed size 824 kB [02:21] Omar, ^ [02:21] didn't work too [02:21] sure it does [02:22] I tried every one [02:22] !work | Omar [02:22] Omar: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. [02:22] not for me :) [02:22] Omar: He is asking what is the specific issue with kazam [02:23] I don't remember [02:23] Omar, saying 'does not work" is vague and no one can help [02:23] but I tried hard with every programm from that list [02:23] one by one [02:24] Omar, if you don't offer more than "doesn't work" you can expect no help [02:24] one by one It doesn't work, I mean that It has some error, that I searched the solution for very hardly, and I spend nights witout a result :) [02:25] so give the exact errors for each one [02:25] Usually a dozen or so apps that "don't work" usually indicates issues other than the app(s) [02:25] and now I'm discussing the command line solution [02:25] using ffmpeg or avconv [02:25] and I have a nice render with It [02:25] Omar, sounds like hardware in your case if nothing works and you provide NO info at all [02:25] the problem is that I don't know how to record the voice [02:26] thats not a software problem [02:26] nothing is wrong with the hardwar bazhang [02:27] I told MelRay that FDesktoprecorder worked for me when I was havin 12.04 [02:27] recommended FTP / SCP client? [02:27] and that I had the same problem in the begining, but I found the solution, but now, I don"t remeber IT [02:27] jedihawk: use dolphin [02:28] the filesystem explorer? [02:28] yes [02:28] okay, I'll give it a shot. thx. [02:28] no problem :) [02:29] bazhang: I installed kazam...but it doesn't show up with a gui or anything...is it meant to be used in conjunction with another app? [02:29] After choosing run kazaqm [02:29] *kazam* [02:30] MelRay, then your apps menu needs a refresh. it's there [02:30] bazhang: K how do I refresh the menu? [02:31] i cant report bugs iin raring: ERROR: Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress? Error: No module named 'DLFCN' [02:31] any hint ? [02:31] bazhang: the kmenu never has to refresh [02:31] MelRay, either a menu editor, or after a logout/login [02:31] bazhang: Ok thank you [02:31] MelRay: try to lance It in command line [02:32] I got it...heheh [02:32] Gotta roll have a good one... [02:33] simplew, join #ubuntu+1 for raring issues [02:33] !java [02:33] To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software Development Kit" (SDK). Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations. [02:33] !jre [02:34] I take it the default-jre package is the one that you want to install to get a JRE to run java applets in chromium? [02:34] !crosspost | simplew [02:34] simplew: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [02:40] hm..... something called "icedtea" plugin seemed work. silly linux [02:58] allo [02:58] hi. [02:58] . o O SaluT / IN [02:58] xixor: hi [02:58] xixor: I am new at IRC [02:59] I just installed Quassel and 've connected [02:59] !seen [02:59] I have no seen command [02:59] !list [02:59] simplew: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». [02:59] I donnut installed any script like bsmax script [02:59] is it ok ? [02:59] !h [02:59] !help [02:59] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [02:59] !url [03:00] !mouse [03:00] You can find mouse-related settings in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse [03:00] !mouse [03:00] !patience [03:00] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. [03:00] should i install an irc script ? [03:01] where is a good debian irc chan ? [03:01] !alis | ste_ [03:01] ste_: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http* [03:02] OerHeks: thank you [03:03] test [03:06] ste_: New at IRC? Cool. I've been on irc since 1995 [03:06] ste_: the great thing about irc, is that in all that time, it hasn't changed a bit. [03:15] yeah [03:15] it works [03:15] =] === shumski_ is now known as shumski [03:18] :-) [03:29] xixor: right on. 1993 for me. [03:37] anyhone here [03:41] yes [03:43] Wasx that all you needed? To see if someone was here? Ok. Some one is. Now what? [03:44] nice chann [03:44] see u [03:44] SaluT / OuT O O . === thelionroars is now known as OldMcDonals === OldMcDonals is now known as OldMcDonald === OldMcDonald is now known as thelionroars === user is now known as us0r === us0r is now known as user [05:03] msg NickServ identify nicomicro93tobias [05:04] user time to change password .. nevermind [05:19] hello fellas, i jsut got to reinstall kubuntu again, and can someone help me decrease my mouse sensitivaty? [05:19] my touchpad [05:19] muji yes, tell your mouse how wonderful it is, build up its self-esteem [05:20] i tried that jimmyjohnny, but that didn't work out [05:20] lol [05:20] :) [05:20] but the touchpad touch sensitivaty === mark_ is now known as EnK === mark_ is now known as EnK [05:48] hey guys [05:49] can i get some help installing the new nvidia driver? [05:51] join #ubuntu [05:51] hmm === LordOfTime is now known as TheLordOfTime [06:47] hello guys, how can i see which version of nvidia gpu i have? i jsut tried to install the newest graphics driver, but don't know if it worked or not [06:48] muji: "lspci" will include the graphics chip ID. [06:48] DarthFrog: im actually looking for the driver version [06:48] Mine, for example, shows: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 570 HD] (rev a1) [06:48] You asked for GPU identification. [06:49] oh oops, my bad i should rephrase that [06:49] how can i se which nvidia grpahics driver i have? [06:49] Run "nvidia-settings". [06:50] says i'm not using the nvidia x driver [06:51] /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what's going on. [06:51] muji, did you install an nvidia driver? [06:51] TheLordOfTime: yea i got the neweest one that came out yestarday [06:53] but did you install it :P [06:53] thats what im trying to find out lol [06:53] i went into the alt+ctrl+f1 thing [06:53] logged in [06:53] and um did chmod +x filename [06:54] it was a .run file [06:55] unless i was supposed to do sh? [06:57] gonna give it another try, wish me luck [06:58] was going to say jsut chmodding it isn't enough and you have to execute the .run [06:58] but i don't trust .runs anyways [07:00] crap, so how do i close xserver? lol [07:00] ah nvm [07:00] init 3 [07:26] Will 12.04.* be able to run 4.9.3? === ocs is now known as faLUCE [07:39] hi === tron__ is now known as tr0n [08:19] what's up dudes/dudettes? [08:19] trying out irc === och is now known as Guest25735 [08:55] how can I make Dolphin look like this? http://draco23hack.deviantart.com/art/Audi-colors-297073099 [09:03] sure.. everyones off installing steam :P [09:06] nicekiwi: Do you know what theme he/she uses? [09:07] Lord_Drachenblut, nope. but a theme cant chnage the structure of Dolphins UI can it? [09:09] lordievader, nope. but a theme cant chnage the structure of Dolphins UI can it? [09:14] nicekiwi: Nope it is some kind of a theme, download the file that is provided. [09:16] lordievader, there is no file.. [09:17] or is there.. [09:17] nicekiwi: http://www.deviantart.com/download/297073099/audi_colors_by_draco23hack-d4wvb2j.zip [09:18] lordievader, its a colour theme. thats ALL. that does NOTHING to the UI of Dolphin apart form maybe colouring it [09:19] lordievader, does Dolphin in that picture look like stock dolphin? All the buttons are in different places or hidden etc [09:19] nicekiwi: No, I have to agree to that. [09:19] Indeed, ive seen ppl do that before.. but have no idea how [09:20] nicekiwi: Perhaps a good idea to ask him? [09:20] yeah, i think so [09:23] Brb, things are failing around me, got to reboot. [09:29] Back. [09:30] yay [09:32] Firewall killed my nfs link, dolphin didn't like that, and therefore kde refused to do anything anymore. [09:42] i've actually had that happen with sshfs [09:42] found that killing the ssh service fixed it [09:44] Forgot to add those machines that use the nfs to the list. [09:50] Hmmm. So far 4.9.3 rules nicely ... === shumski__ is now known as shumski === shumski is now known as shumski__ [10:16] hi [10:17] Hey. I want to open a lot of c, py and txt files in one go in kate. They are hierarchically stored in subfolders. Can someone help me open them all in 1 go? Im trying for something like {ls -R | kate}. also, i want to exclude the .git directory while doing this. [10:28] lordievader, seems u can configure stock dolphin to look like that [10:29] nicekiwi: Ok good to know, but how? [10:30] if you right click it, you can unlock it and drag it to the side then just click again and select show icon only [10:30] an1: you will want to use a for loop [10:31] lordievader, u can also set the position though the same right click menu. [10:32] an1: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_09_01.html has some decent examples. otherwise you can try #bash [10:32] hateball: thank you!! [10:33] nicekiwi: I see, ok thank you for letting me know :) [10:34] :) no worries. [10:36] an1: actually... there is a plugin in kate for doing this :p [10:37] an1: go into preferences, plugin called "file system view" or such. granted it doesnt search recursively but easy way to open all files in one dir [10:39] an1: actually... it even does recursive :> [10:39] hateball: oh that works! pretty much what i wanted. i was halfway through writing by script :P [10:39] Thank you! [10:40] not sure if you can use a filter in the filter view tho, to exclude .git [10:40] folder view* [10:40] thats ok. Only think was kate gives a lot of warnings while trying to open the binary files under git folder. Thats what i wanted to avoid. otherwise its a hidden folder anyways [10:41] nah... if you drag a folder it will still open everything below, regardless of filter [10:42] oh well [11:23] Hiyas all [11:50] Is there a 'K' counterpart of openoffice calc/gnumeric? [11:51] Will 12.04.* be able to run 4.9.3? === Guest98985 is now known as Aranel === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [12:01] anyone awake in heres? [12:06] jedihawk, nope , still asleep :) [12:06] BluesKaj: :-) [12:06] I couldn't sleep, so I thought I'd get something done. [12:07] had a dumb question about why my monitors turn off after five mins or so. do you know why this happens? [12:07] which kubuntu version jedihawk? [12:08] 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:32:08 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux [12:08] hi buddies [12:10] hi Peace- [12:11] jedihawk, that looks like the latest 12.10 kernel === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [12:11] yup, but I made a mistake and didn't install the 64-bit version. [forehead smack] I'll probably re-install later on (again). [12:14] jedihawk: How much ram do you got installed? [12:14] Lord_Drachenblut: 4G [12:14] which used to be a lot. === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [12:15] jedihawk, I had the same problem but setting the screensaver to 180 mins in system settings>display & monitor seems to have worked here ..power management is basically disabled here as well [12:15] jedihawk: Ah yes then you do want to get the 64-bit version. [12:16] ohh, setting it higher rather than turning it off? never thought of that. I'll try it... [12:17] jedihawk, but I'm on desktop , so laptops are a diferent story [12:18] sure. I'm on a desktop machine. [12:23] Hi Guys [12:23] i need one help [12:24] instead of kubuntu normal desktop with widgets i want the simple desktop with icons [12:24] is there anyway to do this [12:25] san: sure [12:25] Peace Can u please tell me how to do this? [12:25] san: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopQJa356.png [12:26] san: right click on desktop => destop=settings => search and launch [12:27] yes Peace i did that [12:28] but now its opening tablet interface [12:28] isnt "folder view" a "simple desktop" [12:28] afaik [12:28] san: ah sorry [12:28] san: yes instead of searcha nd lauch you need to use folderview [12:28] ok.. let me try [12:28] that's all [12:29] yes now its working [12:30] one more thing.. i want to use nautilus for desktop icons [12:31] i have changed my icons but in desktop its not showing those icons [12:32] nautilus ? [12:33] yes [12:33] dolphin is far better than nautilus anyway if you want use nautilus to open folders i guess you need to go on file associations [12:33] in systemsettings [12:34] san: or just search this http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopm31619.png [12:34] ok.. will try it.. Thanks Peace [12:34] san: then set what you like http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopc31619.png i have dolphin === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [12:48] Hello !! My network printers status is paused? how can I change that please? === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [12:52] Syria: open your browser [12:53] Syria: http://localhost:631/printers/ [12:53] Syria: select your printer [12:53] Peace-: Then? [12:54] Syria: for example here i can handle my printer http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopn31619.png [12:55] Syria: i have my printer in idle mode but i can pause it so you should be able to put your printer in your prefered mode http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopV31619.png [12:59] sorry lost the connection. [13:01] Syria: you did it ? [13:01] Syria: did you get this ? http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopV31619.png [13:01] ? [13:01] Peace-: One moment please, I will try it. === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [13:04] Peace-: The printer status has changed into "Idle" , After resuming it. [13:04] Syria: so it should work [13:04] Peace-: I will test it. One moment please. [13:06] Peace-: It works! :D [13:06] Peace-: Thnx buddy. [13:06] Syria: :) === cryptfu_ is now known as Guest12560 [13:06] Peace-: May I know what is the name of the theme that you are using? [13:06] Syria: plasma theme ? [13:07] Peace-: Yes. [13:07] Syria: icon is kfaenza , plasma theme is my own that is called nowardev , panels layout is my own layout that is nowardev double panel [13:08] Peace-: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/nowardev+theme+dark+wallpaper?content=142058 <<< this one right? [13:09] Syria: nope that is my first version it's this http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopC32072.png === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:22] Peace-: How Can I add that double panel please? === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [13:22] Syria: have you 12.04 or 12.10? [13:23] Peace-: 12.10 [13:24] Syria: this is my own debian package that i did of my little software , you need to know that with gnome3 layout you could get plasma-crash . anyway it will run again and the you can even use gnome3 layout [13:24] Syria: do you want anyway ? [13:25] if yes you can download this https://launchpad.net/~nowardev/+archive/ppa/+files/plasma-panels-collection_2.0.2-1ubuntu0~ppa1_all.deb [13:26] Peace-: Yes I like its idea and I am not using gnome3. [13:27] Syria: ok install that package and then you can use what you want right click on the desktop => add panel =>Nowardev double panel => http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopw32072.png [13:30] Peace-: Downloading dependencies.... [13:30] Syria: yes you need widgets === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === shumski__ is now known as shumski [13:37] Peace-: It works thank you :) [13:37] Syria: good [13:37] Peace-: I like it. Good job. [13:37] Syria: you can do it as you like [13:38] Syria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAB1whqH9n8 === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [13:47] got a few bugs with Kubuntu on my netbook - (I have various desktops and they are all fine) [13:47] i.e - the default netbook settings (which are automatically enabled on the netbook) are unusable [13:48] there are crashes and after a few mins am I unable to launch any app [13:48] if I change the netbook to use the standard desktop (workspace behaviour) [13:48] hey all [13:49] its fine - unless I change *any* setting in desktop effects, no matter what setting I change the system is unusable until I rm -rf .kde and restart [13:49] is there a plasmoid for tracking times on projects, like ktimetracker does? [13:49] (this only effects my netbook which is ryunning intergrated intel graphics) [13:50] nvidia desktops are 100% fine (in fact kubuntu 12.10 is possibly the best I have ran - with the exception of arch) [13:51] yossarianuk: you should report bugs on launchpad so the developers can track them [14:01] tsimpson - will do [14:02] (need to wait until I get home so I have my netbook.. === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [14:37] trying to not swear here ..... how do i keep my desktop settings after playing a fullscreen game? i'm running dual desktop, and fullscreen games TOTALLY bork my settings ... i have to log out and back in to get my desktop back EXTREMELY [14:37] artao: this is due to game [14:37] and it's NOT the graphics card [14:38] no. this is due to the window manager [14:38] i have discuss this with aseigo [14:38] if it's due to the game, then it's EVERY game [14:38] with urban terror i got very weird behavior with panels [14:38] it happened when i had an ATI card, and it still happens with an nvidia card [14:39] artao: join on #kde === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [14:39] yeah, it was UrT i jsut came out of ... but it happens with speed dreams, torc, fliight gear, etc [14:39] ask in that place it should be present one of kwin devs [14:39] mmk [14:39] artao: btw without games you should just run well === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [14:40] whut? [14:40] artao: i don't remember well but games sets X stuff and then they doesn't turn back the settings [14:40] hmm [14:40] that's the problem i think to remember [14:40] i now remember why i stopped gaming under linux .. and dual boot win 7 [14:41] anyway if you find the kwin devs you should get some tricks [14:41] anyhow, i need to log out-in now [14:42] artao: this man is the kwin dev http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/ [14:42] artao: you can contact him [14:42] artao: or just report a bug in the kde bug report website [14:43] artao: here https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === emre is now known as mRe === mRe is now known as mRemm === Vito_away is now known as Vito === kubuntu is now known as btch === itmanager is now known as itmanager_ [16:13] well... kubuntu is working better now it appears [16:17] hello, my Run Command program froze, how can I restart it? === baris is now known as Guest39169 [16:40] ovidiu-florin, kdesudo krunner [16:40] in the terminal [16:41] hello [16:41] ?? [16:41] !ask [16:41] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [16:43] BluesKaj: thank's [16:44] I've killed it, ansd started it , but it won't show up on alt+F2 [16:45] ovidiu-florin, right click on the desktop , choose run command ..try that [16:46] BluesKaj: thank's it works now [16:47] how do I get rid of that annoying glow around the active window [16:47] yeah, ovidiu-florin , that command is the way i usually call krunner [16:49] ozzzy, system-settings>workspace appearance , one of the settings there might be it === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [16:53] BluesKaj, tks [16:53] man that was annoying [16:56] hi@all some question to you guys: I installed kubuntu 12.04 a while ago and now ,for gaming, i installed win7 in a seperated partition i just created. After that i repaired grub bootloader with the kubuntu install cd .. and now my stupid question: How can i start win7 ? ...because after repairing grub linux shows up as usual but i have no option to choose from [16:58] WineQQ_: I believe you have to hold down left shift, or sometimes escape, while booting for the grub menu to show, it's hidden by default until you press one of those keys [16:59] WineQQ there is a package kde-config-grub2 with this you can try to edit grub menu the grafical way the options are in kde syssettings and there the boot or start(dont know englishh name) [17:00] WineQQ_,once in kubuntu , open a terminal and run sudo os-prober , then sudo update-grub [17:01] ok thanks so far guys , tsimpsons solution seems the easiest (as the others are not that difficult to manage to), but does it work ? [17:02] try it and see, remember to try both. if it doesn't work, come back and try the other options given [17:04] yeah ;D got u ... so thank u all guys u are great :) [17:07] i have a very big problem i updated last night from 12.04 to 12.10 and after reboot x server with kde doesnt start, it looks like a crash at kdm start but sometimes i get the konsole login message an can log in and work untill i try ctrl+alt+F7 then i cant go back to tty1, have also 2 kernel version available 33 and 2? and the 12.04 boot is also available but none of this options work, graphic driver is some version from amd page for hd radeon [17:07] Arjuna: You did a manual install of the AMD/ATI driver? [17:07] yes [17:08] package creation failed sadly [17:08] Arjuna: There is your problem, manual installed drivers usually break with a kernel upgrade. Try reinstalling the driver. [17:09] doesnt work not even with --force [17:09] tried this already was also my first thought [17:09] can have a look in install log and try to tell here [17:10] Arjuna: What card do you have in your system? [17:10] hd radeon x3820 x2 [17:11] Arjuna: Hmm same series as my hd3850.. legacy nowadays. I couldn't get the driver to work in 12.10. [17:12] oh that would be very bad [17:13] which driver do you use aktually [17:13] Arjuna: Got to eat, there is probably someone who can assist you in this, good luck. [17:13] Arjuna: Now the open-source radeon driver, I believe. [17:13] ok thanks and good hunger [17:16] ok if this is also my prob how to uninstall the legacy driver which isnt installed via dpkg packages [17:17] ok got two cmds will try first be back surly [17:18] andf if anyone ideas i would be very happy [17:30] f....... uninstall seems to work forgot sadly that the default resolution from EDID doesnt work so i have on all tty inculding the x "out of range" is there a shortcut [17:30] to change [17:31] Arjuna: You should check the docs with that ATI driver. I suspect that they've stopped supporting your old card. You'll be better served by using the radeon driver. [17:33] at the amd page there is a driver for my series that also worked fine(only watermark) on 12.04 [17:33] "dpkg --list | grep fglrx" should tell you what's installed. [17:34] yes i had a picture [17:34] +if [17:34] Whatever that means. [17:35] my monitor say "out of range" [17:37] i previously removed the fglrx and the manual installed fglrx and now default resolution has change to undisplayable one [17:38] now i cant do anything without another monitor [17:38] which i need atm to write here [17:39] Press "CTL-ALT-F1" to switch to a virtual terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon" [17:39] Then reboot. [17:39] tty 1-6 also in wrong res but will try to type blind [17:41] No, don't. Just reboot, then try again. [17:41] reboot ghives me every tie wrong resolution [17:42] tje=time [17:44] ok be right back have to kidnap my wifes monitor to install radeon driver and set default res in xorg === paolo is now known as udpLUCE [17:50] is there an alternate image for kubuntu 12.10 or am I missing something? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/12.10/release/ === udpLUCE is now known as faLUCE [17:51] mm [17:51] scorpking: wait [17:52] hello everybody... [17:52] how are you gui's ? [17:52] Peace-: wait, google, view HTML source = same results ;) [17:53] * scorpking needs to put kubuntu on an old machine.. [17:53] i have 13.04 alternate xD [17:53] i need to find the 12.10 version [17:55] scorpking: mmm i guess that the alternate image is included on the normal version read here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.10-release [17:56] scorpking: because of i install always alphas i am not pretty sure [17:56] Peace-: thanks [17:56] Peace-: We have dropped alternate iso images [17:57] As for reasons why [17:57] Quintasan: is there a way to disable gui install? [17:57] well i use the mini cd :D [17:57] scorpking: just download the mini stuff iso [17:57] I can think of not enough people to test isos and small number of users AFAIR [17:57] yofel: ^ any input on that? [17:57] scorpking: then when you get the terminal you can do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktopp [17:58] Peace-: that is good unless you donwload at 20KB/s like today [17:58] Quintasan: here btw there is alternate but IT'S 13.04 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/ [17:58] Peace-: oh, no idea why it is ther [17:59] anyways, thanks guys.. i'll mange :) [18:00] manage* [18:00] for the reason as Quintasan said, and yeah, you'll have to use the mini.iso [18:00] i'll setup a local repo first. maybe that woulds speed things up [18:01] * scorpking goes off to grap the 12.10 apt-mirror repos.. [18:03] Arjuna: Hey you still around, how is it going with your ATI/AMD problem? [18:05] yeah i have my kde back [18:10] lots of thx to all who helped me(as Arjuna) fix this now i only have to get fglrx working and set default resolution [18:11] MySystem: Oh hey you are Arjuna? How did you get the driver working? [18:12] not realy Arjuna is my wife *smile* and i dont get the driver working yet i plugged the monitor from my wife and installed radeon driver then reboot res set and here i am [18:13] MySystem: Ah ok, so you followed the same path I did. Remove the driver and use the open-source radeon driver ;) [18:14] for first yes to see if anything else is working since update now i try to get the legacy working [18:21] ubottu: [18:25] I'm looking to learn and understand the process of updating the kernel. I usually see a command mkinit ldconfig, etc. Where can I get an overview of the procedural steps to follow when dealing with updating the kernel? === david is now known as Guest76336 [18:31] how is the kernel dev package named (3.2.0-33) [18:33] oh sry need the source package [18:35] MelRay: you're looking to build/compile your own kernel? [18:36] no hope amd driver will do this for me [18:36] SIR_Taco: Eventually yes...but I want to know up front what all the different steps are to get to that point... [18:39] MelRay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (I only know what they're calling the "Old Fashioned Debian Way", but that looks like a pretty good resource for you to start) [18:39] SIR_Taco: Ok thanks for the assist! [18:40] and there are links for additional documentation at the bottom of that [18:40] you're welcome === skreech__ is now known as Daskreech === PasNox_ is now known as PasNox === adrian is now known as Guest90947 [19:10] * ozzzy is starting to get the hang of kubuntu [19:10] oh yeah? [19:10] * DarthFrog welcomes ozzzy to the Light Side of The Force. [19:10] wait, I thought linux was the dark side? [19:10] have to try to forget the mandriva stuff [19:12] ozzzy: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". [19:12] That'll update your system to the latest 'n greatest KDE SC, which has just been released. [19:12] in a minute === szal__ is now known as szal [19:15] * ozzzy is ranting because xdvdshrink isn't in the repositories [19:15] can I install from an rpm in this distro [19:15] usually no [19:15] ozzzy: Try k9copy [19:16] there is 'alien' which can try to convert a package though. Use at your own risk [19:16] I have... and I do use it [19:16] LOL [19:17] Just compile and install that way... [19:18] nothing to compile... I can repackage [19:19] ozzzy: Ha! I just Googled for xdvdshrink. You're the developer! You can make your own deb file. :-) [19:19] Hmm, last updated 2007. A wee bit stale, no? [19:21] ozzzy: is that based of the windows DVD shrink? [19:24] Hi, i have an error when i go to systemsettings → Localization → System language (something related to language-selector.py) [19:24] http://www.dvdshrink.org/what_en.php [19:24] And some apps are not translated [19:26] Shura_: go to country/region & language and add your language to the preferred languages [19:26] Already done [19:26] language-selector is broken in quantal [19:26] I see… [19:26] which application isn't translated? and which language? [19:26] amarok [19:27] (no french available) [19:27] ah, that's an amaork issue. The french translations weren't done for the Amarok 2.6 release and weren't shipped [19:27] they'll be back in 2.7 [19:27] skanlite too [19:28] Oh ok [19:28] as for skanlite, hm... [19:28] jockey-kde [19:28] And some others i guess [19:30] All of them were translated in precise [19:31] hehe [19:31] it was repackaged for deb back in the day.... was available for all the rpm distros, deb and whatever lindows used [19:31] there was some restructuring in quantal which resulted in a different handling of translations [19:32] (language-selector is a different issue though) [19:32] ok ok [19:32] thanks for the news, i'll wait [19:32] and some things seem to still be broken :/ [19:32] Robtygart: no... when I wrote it there was no 'shrinker' around... it's written in PERL and BASH and is basically a front-end for the several disparate utilities needed to make dvds [19:33] skanlite seems to be a bug [19:33] ozzzy: You can have your own PPA for your projects in Kubuntu. [19:33] !ppa | ozzzy [19:33] ozzzy: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [19:33] I don't write much for linux anymore.... mostly I'm writing firmware for our products [19:34] ozzzy: Still a PPA will make it easy to distribute them to K/Ubuntu. [19:34] I had a 'poorman's PVR'... a regex-based music player... xdvdshrink and a few utilities I wrote for myself [19:34] ozzzy: that is really cool, I just downloaded it,. [19:34] hey... if it works wonderful... I haven't done any maintenance in a few years [19:36] I am going to need to read the Documentation [19:36] Thanks [19:38] ozzzy: if I google your name "Ozzzy" Will I come up with any more of your programs? [19:42] Robtygart: probably not [19:46] lol [19:46] ciao === alessio_ is now known as apulian_king === apulian_king is now known as Apulian_King === david is now known as Guest67083 [20:01] rekonq seems pretty good === armagidon is now known as w00ts [20:26] ozzzy: rekonq is a version of Konqueror using Webkit. [20:27] instead of khtml. [20:27] I believe (but don't know) Webkit is Apple's enhanced version of khtml. === armagidon is now known as g1d0n [20:48] damn... cinepaint isn't available === raindog is now known as Guest56113 [20:51] ozzzy: is cinepaint-resources the same? In the package manager. [20:51] Robtygart: dunno... lemme check [20:53] don't see it [20:53] odd [20:53] ozzzy, try krita? [20:54] yeah... it's pretty basic [20:54] when I type cinepaint-resources it gives me create-resources. Sorry I read that wrong [20:54] and the gimp still only works at 8-bit [20:55] krita is good with 16-bit + HDR painting === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === sburjan_ is now known as sburjan` === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow === achim is now known as Guest58032 === SteveRiley_ is now known as SteveRiley === ubuntu is now known as Guest89268 [23:28] It sure is quiet here. Thats a good sign right? [23:29] hi robtygart, sure it is, less questions, less problems. [23:29] lol just shows how great Kubuntu is. [23:31] yup [23:47] did anybody know why installation via deb packages for old amd/ati graphic drivers fail on 12.10 while make (my first thought did the build in compiler change or update but dont know )