[00:21] <Adri_> ehi, ciao a tutti...
[00:21] <Adri_> avrei un problema...
[00:22] <Adri_> ho installato ubuntu sul mio portatile, con wubi e scegliendo lubuntu come ambiente grafico  solo che dopo l'installazione, ho riavviato, sembrava tutto apposto, ma in effetti lubuntu non è mai partito...  ogni volta che riavvio il sistema, parte win xp e non mi dà la possibilità di lanciare lubuntu... avete idea da cosa potrebbe dipendere?!
[15:24] <boenk> hi, i'm using lubuntu 12.04 and my wifi is no work? please help me
[15:25] <leszek> boenk: what wifi card or chip do you have
[15:25] <leszek> ?
[15:26] <boenk> leszek: realtek RTL8723AE ?
[15:29] <leszek> boenk: seems to be a little bit problematic as realtek stopped supporting kernels above 3.3
[15:29] <leszek> but you could try this installing this : http://narod.ru/disk/63324426001.be2b41d0b8fef8f2ccd60baf70713b81/rtlwifi-dkms_2012.05.14.6.deb.html
[15:32] <boenk> what is this link? sory my english is not good :D
[15:33] <leszek> boenk: this seems to be a driver for 12.10 for your wireless card. I found it searching via google
[15:35] <boenk> 12.10? its compatible for 12.04? but i'm using 12.04.
[15:36] <holstein> boenk: i would just try that driver.. then, if it doesnt work, you can think about upgrading to 12.10 for support... but i would try it in 12.04
[15:36] <leszek> boenk: it should be compatible as it is using the dkms way to compile the kernel module
[15:39] <boenk> what is the "dkms" ?
[15:39] <dean_> Hi all I have just installed lubuntu could someone tell me what is the best bittorrent client to use would be?
[15:40] <holstein> boenk: nothing to worry about.. just something that could be incompatible with 12.04, but likely is not.. just try the driver in 12.04... that'll be the first and most easiest thing to try, rather than installing 12.10
[15:41] <holstein> dean_: i like transmission.. "best" is a matter of opinion.. i would try a few and ask if you need something that you are not finding..
[15:42] <dean_> holstein, Does it work out of the box or do you have to configure it for better speed?
[15:43] <holstein> dean_: i dont personally torrent.. i would say there are sane defaults to any of them, and they are all configurable
[15:44] <dean_> holstein, Ok thanks
[15:44] <leszek> boenk: dkms means that it will recompile the driver on kernel update basically
[15:45] <holstein> the few times i have hosted iso's, transmission worked great, dean_ ... and i have used it to download a few iso's... there is a nice webGUI
[15:46] <dean_> holstein, Ok thanks for the advice will give it a go
[15:46] <leszek> transmission is good enough. An alternativ also very good is deluge
[15:47] <dean_> leszek, Thanks for that
[15:47] <boenk> leszek: oh, thank for this, but can give me a link about dkms?
[15:48] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DKMS
[15:48] <leszek> :)
[15:48] <holstein> !dkms
[15:49] <dean_> One quick question when I used other distros in Synaptic there is a search bar already on the screen to type in but on lubuntu you have to click on search first is there anyway to get a search bar?
[15:51] <leszek> dean_: the package apt-xapian-index must be installed for this
[15:51] <dean_> leszek, Nice one for that
[15:52] <holstein> i'll link this since i searched for it :) http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=70350
[15:52] <boenk> thanks all, i will try this. go opensource :D
[16:02] <boenk> see you :D
[16:23] <Neohasreturned> Hi I was just wondering I have uninstalled a program but when I go into my menu it still shows up on the list but it has gone how do I remove it from the menu?
[16:24] <leszek> Neohasreturned: is there a *.desktop file in /usr/share/applications still for the uninstalled application ?
[16:24] <Neohasreturned> When I right click on it it displays add to desktop or properties
[16:25] <leszek> Neohasreturned: the menu is auto created from /usr/share/applications. So when the *.desktop file for your application is still there it is natural to show up in the menu
[16:25] <leszek> if it isn't there then this should be only a chaching problem and go away when you relogin or reload lxpanel
[16:25] <Neohasreturned> leszek, I can't see anything under applications
[16:26] <Neohasreturned> leszek, I have restarted my computer
[16:26] <leszek> and the entry is still there ?
[16:26] <Neohasreturned> leszek, Yeah but no icon just the name of the program I even tried sudo apt-get purge
[16:27] <leszek> Neohasreturned: then it must be either in /usr/share/applications that *.desktop file or in ~/.local/share/applications
[16:28] <Neohasreturned> leszek, I installed it from a .deb file if that helps?
[16:31] <Neohasreturned> leszek, When I click on properties the command is /usr/bin/tixati %F
[16:32] <leszek> Neohasreturned: just take a look at those two directories and see if you find any *.desktop file that represents the link to this application
[16:33] <leszek> I assume from the name of the command tixati.desktop or something like that
[16:33] <Neohasreturned> leszek, Yeah I have cant see anything I know the program is deffo gone but it has like a settings icon and the name of the program next to it in the menu
[16:34] <leszek> Neohasreturned: seems that this programm is not included in the ubuntu repos
[16:34] <leszek> so can you give me a link to the deb, so I can check it ?
[16:34] <Neohasreturned> leszek, I downloaded the deb from the tixati website
[16:35] <Neohasreturned> http://www.tixati.com/download/
[16:35] <Neohasreturned> leszek, I downloaded thebit .deb
[16:35] <leszek> hmm...
[16:36] <Neohasreturned> 64 bit even
[16:36] <leszek> I don't see any suspicious locations on the 32bit
[16:36] <leszek> let me check the 64bit version
[16:37] <leszek> hmm... no only a /usr/share/application/tixati.desktop file nothing else suspicious
[16:37] <Neohasreturned> weird I wonder why it wont disappear from the menu then
[16:37] <leszek> if this does not exists on your system but it still showing up in the menu, then something is really strange here
[16:38] <leszek> you could try installing alacarte (but this has many gnome dependencies I suppose) and hide the menu entry. But without an *.desktop file anywhere there should not be a menuentry in the first place
[16:39] <Neohasreturned> leszek, It's not causing a problem just cosmetic and annoying really
[16:40] <leszek> Yeah I know
[16:40] <Neohasreturned> is there a command in terminal to refresh my start menu?
[16:41] <leszek> it gets refreshed on every restart of lxpanel basically and everytime you install something or remove something via the packagemanager
[16:41] <bioterror> no
[16:41] <Neohasreturned> I will turn pc off and reboot see if it helps
[16:41] <bioterror> there's ~/.local/share/applicaions/ which contais mimeapps.list
[16:41] <bioterror> for example
[16:41] <bioterror> yes, reboot. it helps always
[16:42] <Neohasreturned> Ok brb
[16:45] <Neohasreturned> Didn't work still in start menu
[16:45] <bioterror> so will you now look into ~/.local/share/applications/
[16:45] <bioterror> and remove the mimeapps.list
[16:45] <bioterror> and maybe mimeinfo.cache too
[16:46] <Neohasreturned> will give it a go thanks for the advice
[17:47] <llogiq> Hi folks.
[17:47] <llogiq> Just updated to 12.10.
[17:48] <llogiq> It works on my VM, but my wife's notebook gives me a black screen.
[17:48] <llogiq> Apparently, the ATI graphics card is not supported.
[17:48] <llogiq> It's not even that old. :-(
[17:49] <llogiq> Using the proprietary drivers, btw.
[17:52] <llogiq> Now I can't even change it because the notebook will boot directly without even showing grub.
[17:53] <holstein> llogiq: i would try with the vesa driver.. i would try a live CD with the nomodeset option
[17:53] <holstein> i would also consider just staying on 12.04
[18:07] <llogiq> holstein: Ok, will try that.
[18:08] <llogiq> staying on 12.04 is an option after having upgraded?
[18:08] <holstein> you can reinstall
[18:09] <holstein> you should have your data still backed up from before the upgrade
[18:09] <llogiq> Holding shift on boot brought up the boot menu - now I can select the 3.2 kernel, which appears to work.
[18:10] <llogiq> With the 3.2 kernel it appears to run.
[18:10] <holstein> cool.. you can always just use that kernel then
[18:15] <llogiq> yeah. But first, I'll try and remove the proprietary drivers. Maybe the radeon drivers will work.
[18:16] <holstein> you have 3 drivers to try
[18:21] <llogiq> yep
[18:23] <llogiq> That worked. I get a strange delay on bootup where the screen is blank, but afterwards, it's ok.
[18:23] <llogiq> Thanks for the heads-up, holstein.
[18:26] <holstein> llogiq: sounds ok!.. cheers!
[18:29] <EvilAngel> how do I install virtualbox Guest Additions in Lubuntu?
[18:31] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions
[18:31] <bioterror> for example
[18:37] <llogiq> cu folks.
[20:02] <EvilAngel> bioterror: wtf is sudo apt-get ????
[20:03] <bioterror> !apt | EvilAngel
[20:03] <bioterror> !sudo | EvilAngel
[20:03] <EvilAngel> that's crazy
[20:04] <EvilAngel> why do I have to use a commandpromt just to install a program?
[20:04] <EvilAngel> that's like MSDOS
[20:04] <bioterror> *schniff*
[20:05] <Unit193> You don't, there are several ways to do it, that's just the easiest way to help you do it.
[20:05] <Unit193> !software | EvilAngel
[20:06] <Unit193> (And the best way, of course)
[20:06] <bioterror> the only correct way
[20:06] <EvilAngel> Unit193: since when is a commandprompt easier than a gui ??
[20:07] <bioterror> EvilAngel, type us how you do it with your graphical interface
[20:07] <bioterror> and compare the ammount of letters to my simple one liner
[20:07] <Unit193> EvilAngel: Try telling someone to click somewhere, something should pull up, click somewhere else, this should do it.
[20:07] <Unit193> (Also, I don't use the GUI so would just be guessing)
[20:07] <EvilAngel> Unit193: you're brainwashed :(
[20:07] <Unit193> No, clearly I'm not.
[20:08] <EvilAngel> why do the people behind linux hate userfriendliness ?
[20:08] <bioterror> what?
[20:08] <phiscribe> they don't hate it.  just maybe have a different view point
[20:08] <bioterror> our shells are more advanced than your mouse ever will be
[20:08] <EvilAngel> things that are supereasy in windows and osx are superdifficult in linux :(
[20:09] <bioterror> what?
[20:09] <EvilAngel> I'm not trolling I'm just frustrated
[20:09] <bioterror> you are
[20:09] <Unit193> Clearly you didn't read the link, I'll post it again: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[20:09] <bioterror> OS X has fink
[20:09] <bioterror> and fink is a apt-get tool
[20:09] <bioterror> OS X has ports
[20:09] <bioterror> and those are exactly the same
[20:10] <bioterror> I think this conversation is now concluded
[20:10] <EvilAngel> thanks for the link Unit193 but I refuse to use a commandline for installing programs
[20:10] <bioterror> then do it your way
[20:10] <bioterror> we told you the name of the package
[20:11] <EvilAngel> I like that fact that Linux is opensource and completely free though
[20:11] <EvilAngel> that's a nice philosophy
[20:13] <EvilAngel> but when not even ubuntu is as userfriendly as windows there's a problem
[20:13] <bioterror> you are free to use more user friendly operating systems
[20:14] <EvilAngel> it's obvious that linuxpeople don't want more people to use linux
[20:14] <bioterror> it is
[20:14] <bioterror> we want to keep our userbase as minimal as possible and elitist
[20:15] <EvilAngel> I rest my case!
[20:15] <EvilAngel> that attitude is actually sad
[20:15] <bioterror> I'm sorry, but I have to leave to comb my unix beard, this conversation is full of nonsense from the begin of it
[20:16] <EvilAngel> It would be wonderful if a free opensource OS would be domintating on the desktop
[20:17] <EvilAngel> but linux never will be
[20:17] <Unit193> EvilAngel: Do you have a support question?  This is a support channel.
[20:17] <EvilAngel> oh
[20:17] <EvilAngel> I didn't know
[20:17] <EvilAngel> I though it was general chat
[20:17] <bioterror> read /topic
[20:18] <bioterror> all hail hypnotoad!
[20:18] <EvilAngel> can you recommend another chanel with free conversation?
[20:19] <bioterror> we close minded lubuntu users prefer #lubuntu-offtopic for the general chatting
[20:19] <EvilAngel> ok thanks
[22:48] <unheeding> is there any tips on customizing lubuntu
[22:53] <bioterror> it depends what you want to customize