[01:09] <simplew> whats the most recent kernel
[01:12] <simplew> glebihan: hi
[02:32] <simplew> i cant report bugs iin raring, when running ubuntu-bug appears ths:  ERROR: Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress?  Error: No module named 'DLFCN'
[02:33] <bazhang> simplew, dont crosspost raring issues in other channels
[02:34] <simplew> here i dont get any answers...
[02:34] <bazhang> simplew, that is why you need to be patient.
[02:34] <simplew> bazhang: using raring?
[02:36] <bazhang> simplew, why are you using raring? it's in very early development .   bug fixing and testing is what you need to be focused on, not having a usable system
[02:37] <simplew> im used to use development
[02:37] <bazhang> so be patient.
[02:37] <simplew> but i dont know how to turn around this issue
[02:37] <bazhang> and don't crosspost.
[03:58] <omac> hi there can I ask a question about 12.10 here?
[04:07] <SwedeMike> omac: no, #ubuntu for released ubuntu versions.
[05:01] <gnomefreak> anyon eelse having issus with launching apps from panal?
[11:24] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:25] <twager> Running Raring from an hdsc card but cannot install to hdd as the install only goes up the the partition stage...Anyone suceeded in doing an install ?
[15:36] <philinux> twager: see this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081344
[15:53] <twager> philinux, Thanks for the info. Will keep it on the card 64 g so it should last quite well
[16:02] <BluesKaj> !schedule
[16:05] <BluesKaj> twager, I used the edit sources.list with the sed method shortly after the toolchain was uploaded , and I've been updating/upgrading /dist-upgrading eever since to keep the packages coming down the pipe.
[17:53] <twager> BluesKaj, Thanks  .I had completely forgotten  that
[18:09] <BluesKaj> here's the Kubuntu 13.04 alternate install image site, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[19:36] <genii-around> Is anyone besides me unable to run any gtk apps with nvidia driver loaded?
[19:37] <trism> just about to upgrade I'll let you know
[19:42] <genii-around> Cool.
[19:47] <bjsnider> is there an error message?
[19:47] <bjsnider> if not, what does .xsession-errors say?
[19:49] <genii-around> There seem to be no errors. I'm in KDE. If I run for instance gimp or firefox, after about 5-7 seconds they are unresponsive and have to be killed. But they aren't chewing up resources , just unresponsive
[19:50] <genii-around> Going to try loading into some other desktop, be back
[20:18] <genii-around> Worked in xubuntu but not lubuntu ( it ran firefox ok but as soon as I closed it the desktop locked up and stayed that way). Pastebin of  ~/.cache/lxsession/Lubuntu/run.log  and .xsession-errors  up to that point: .http://paste.ubuntu.com/1340789/
[20:23] <genii-around> When I run firefox in KDE from Konsole, it freezes on those same last two lines, "(firefox:4301): Gdk-CRITICAL **: IA__gdk_error_trap_pop: assertion `gdk_error_traps != NULL' failed" and "Running global cleanup code from study base classes."
[20:29] <trism> genii-around: strange, it seems to be working alright from gnome
[20:29] <genii-around> Hm
[20:30] <trism> genii-around: bug 1075928 has that error in 12.10 so might not be related
[20:31] <genii-around> I'm installing gnome-session to test that too
[21:02] <genii-around> Meh. gnome-session won't even load up. Unity is still screwy for me right now too, http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2012-11-07_15_54_43-sXzEQcj5.png shows the artifacts on it
[21:03] <trism> genii-around: which nvidia version are you using?
[21:06] <genii-around> trism: nvidia-current-updates   ... 304.51-0ubuntu1
[21:07] <trism> genii-around: using nvidia-current here, let me try the -updates version
[21:08] <trism> genii-around: though 304.51 was supposed to be a bit bugged in unity
[21:12] <genii-around> Going to revert to 304.43 and see if it makes a difference, back in a bit
[21:19] <trism> oh seems -updates was 304.64, must have looked at the wrong system
[21:34] <bjsnider> the unity issue was fixed in 60, and 64 has since been released
[21:34] <bjsnider> yesterday in fact
[21:46] <genii-around> Same symptoms with both 304.43 and 304.51. Might be something deeper in my box, it's been continuously release-upgraded from 8.04 without a clean install.
[21:47] <bjsnider> the latest stable blob is 64
[21:47] <bjsnider> not 51
[21:50] <genii-around> bjsnider: I manually tried 60 when it came out because the changelog said they had some Unity fixes, but it wasn't any better. So I did the --uninstall and reverted to the default nvidia-current-updates  which is the 304.51
[21:50]  * genii-around ponders trying 64
[21:50] <bjsnider> manually installing the blob may destroy mesa files
[21:51] <bjsnider> which is why nvidia suggests using distro packages instead
[21:51] <bjsnider> if you go to #nvidia, it's in the topic
[21:51] <bjsnider> but what do i know
[21:51] <trism> shouldn't need to anyway, I was incorrect about the version before, nvidia-current-updates in raring is 304.64
[21:52] <bjsnider> and for the other distros, 64 is in x-updates
[21:52]  * genii-around checks his mesa files
[21:52] <bjsnider> no idea what the excuse could be for using 51
[21:53] <bjsnider> check for mesa's libgl.so
[21:53] <bjsnider> nvidia uses its own and brute force annihilates anything that's in the way
[21:56] <genii-around> bjsnider: Thanks for the tip
[21:57] <bjsnider> genii-around, the nvidia-installer probably warned you when you tried to install it, and you probably ignored the warning
[23:48] <mspencer> Will replacing quantal with raring in /etc/apt/sources.list produce the same system as would installing using a daily build cd?
[23:49] <Daekdroom> mspencer, nope.
[23:49] <Daekdroom> I mean, not necessarily.
[23:50] <mspencer> what is the difference? Will it affect bug fix testing?
[23:50] <Daekdroom> Due to default settings changing throughout the development and some deprecated/not-default-anymore packages might remain installed.
[23:51] <Daekdroom> Well, bug fix testing is supposed to take place too for upgraded systems, but changing sources.list is not an official upgrade way, so I'm not sure.
[23:51] <mspencer> So to test bug fixes, I'll want to use the cd image?
[23:52] <Daekdroom> It's better if you do, I suppose.
[23:52] <mspencer> thanks!