| JanC | bkerensa: if Steam is packaged correctly, you should not need ia32-libs ☺ | 00:29 |
|---|---|---|
| bkerensa | JanC: clearly this is not that case | 00:29 |
| JanC | or is the beta distributed as a tarball for now? | 00:29 |
| bkerensa | anyone using amd64 had to install ia32-libs | 00:29 |
| bkerensa | JanC: no its a .deb but clearly something is not solid with debian/control | 00:30 |
| bkerensa | and they also made it obviously easy to use steam without any invite | 00:30 |
| JanC | somebody should tell the packager about multiarch ☺ | 00:30 |
| philballew | had to install 32 | 00:31 |
| JanC | well, it's a beta, they have time to fix it | 00:32 |
| philballew | Unless they get mad that we hacked it | 00:38 |
| * philballew says hacked loosely | 00:38 | |
| bkerensa | we didnt hack | 00:41 |
| bkerensa | its just a loop hole | 00:41 |
| bkerensa | run it from terminal and it doesnt check for a invite | 00:41 |
| * cjohnston has tons of stuff to work on, but I can't... too many distractions | 00:41 | |
| bkerensa | thats not even modding | 00:41 |
| bkerensa | cjohnston: Take the day off | 00:41 |
| bkerensa | :P | 00:41 |
| * cjohnston doesn't have time to take a day off | 00:42 | |
| cjohnston | unless your gonna start fixing summit bugs | 00:42 |
| philballew | This is why we can't have nice things | 00:42 |
| cjohnston | Summit? | 00:43 |
| philballew | steam | 00:43 |
| philballew | summit is really nice | 00:43 |
| philballew | my python code would make it no so nice though..... | 00:43 |
| bkerensa | philballew: why is it we cant have nice things? | 00:47 |
| philballew | people make linux look bad this way. not that I have a problem with it, i just wonder if the steam people dislike this | 00:48 |
| bkerensa | there is nothing bad about it | 00:49 |
| bkerensa | people are literally just running the app with no changes to code or any modding | 00:49 |
| bkerensa | and I think "Linux" has lots of nice things | 00:49 |
| bkerensa | whens the last time you had a virus? Ask a friend who uses Windows the same thing? | 00:50 |
| philballew | bkerensa, I agree. never had a virus. I was just saying if steam might not like this being done | 00:51 |
| philballew | they might not care, I have no idea | 00:51 |
| bkerensa | philballew: im sure they are well aware of it and if they do care they will patch their binary | 00:52 |
| philballew | might be intentional | 00:53 |
| JanC | I never had a virus on Windows | 01:01 |
| JanC | I had a virus on MS-DOS once | 01:01 |
| bkerensa | :P | 01:02 |
| JanC | then went on to read about virussen and wrote a couple viruses myself (very simple ones, and never released publicly, of course) | 01:03 |
| JanC | people who think Ubuntu/linux is completely safe from viruses is pretty wrong BTW | 01:04 |
| bkerensa | JanC: its not safe from them but there has not been anything terrible yet | 01:06 |
| bkerensa | JanC: Ubuntu not having viruses was a marketing pitch on Ubuntu.com a few cycles back | 01:07 |
| JanC | currently there are (almost) no viruses/malware that work on Ubuntu | 01:08 |
| JanC | which is to some degree because of apparmor and "hardening" compiler options and the like | 01:08 |
| JanC | but it's mostly because of numbers | 01:09 |
| jcastro_ | hi everyone | 02:06 |
| SergioMeneses | jcastro_, \o | 02:07 |
| JoseeAntonioR | akgraner: we can get Rick and Steve on air, but we've already had them (steve in the first session, and rick during the marathon), cc. jcastro_ | 03:01 |
| jcastro_ | which steve? | 03:03 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Langasek | 03:03 |
| jcastro_ | ah yeah | 03:03 |
| jcastro_ | abuse him | 03:03 |
| jcastro_ | Rick I think once a cycle is enough | 03:03 |
| jcastro_ | the other engineering managers I see as fair game. :) | 03:04 |
| JoseeAntonioR | akgraner: ^ | 03:04 |
| JoseeAntonioR | we also need to define dates | 03:04 |
| * JoseeAntonioR votes for weekends, people are mostly free those days, and we can get a bigger audience | 03:05 | |
| jcastro_ | I can't speak for them | 03:11 |
| jcastro_ | but I am pretty sure getting employees to check in on the weekends will be a very tough sell | 03:11 |
| JoseeAntonioR | right, we would need to ask first | 03:12 |
| JoseeAntonioR | maybe an hour or less wouldn't affect, but we would need to ask | 03:12 |
| bkerensa | jcastro_: steve is a very busy guy | 04:02 |
| JoseeAntonioR | that's exactly why we need to define dates, and ask them a couple weeks beforehans | 04:04 |
| JoseeAntonioR | beforehand* | 04:04 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:00 |
| chilicuil | good morning dh.olbach | 08:02 |
| dholbach | hi chilicuil | 08:03 |
| bkerensa | Buenos días Senor dholbach y chilicuil | 08:05 |
| dholbach | bkerensa, hola muchacho | 08:06 |
| bkerensa | :D | 08:06 |
| chilicuil | señor* ;) bkerensa, good morning for you guys, hola muchachos* | 08:06 |
| chilicuil | well, it's 2am here.., I'll leave installing ubuntu raring.., I'm going to bed ~.~/ | 08:07 |
| bkerensa | dholbach: you developed harvest? Has there been any consideration to add age filtering to it? | 08:09 |
| dholbach | age filtering? | 08:10 |
| dholbach | like an opportunity which has been around for too long? | 08:10 |
| bkerensa | yeah or just filtering to display only fresh opportunities | 08:11 |
| bkerensa | I guess in reality if something has become irrelevant or old it should just be triaged | 08:11 |
| dholbach | no, it was never discussed | 08:11 |
| bkerensa | hmm | 08:11 |
| dholbach | you can file a bug for it | 08:11 |
| bkerensa | kk | 08:11 |
| dholbach | but nobody has been working on harvest for a while | 08:11 |
| * popey wonders what starts this... root 10505 33.0 0.1 52036 9896 ? Rs 08:27 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/twistd --nodaemon --uid 1000 --gid 1000 --logfile /home/alan/juju/alan-sample/storage-server.log --pidfile= -d /home/alan/juju/alan-sample/files web --port tcp:53604:interface=192.168.122.1 --path /home/alan/juju/alan-sample/files | 08:28 | |
| philballew | juju looks confusing | 08:33 |
| popey | its respawning over and over, killing my laptop | 08:33 |
| philballew | yeah, seem's odd to be a juju thing. might be something tied in with that | 08:35 |
| * philballew feels sorry for popey 's battery | 08:35 | |
| popey | well its clearly juju related :) | 08:35 |
| popey | the thing that spawns it dies so I can't see what the process which started it is | 08:35 |
| popey | juju was removed | 08:35 |
| philballew | I can see it's juju, just seems odd popey | 08:36 |
| philballew | This is why we can't have nice things... | 08:37 |
| philballew | your running juju on your laptop though? | 08:38 |
| popey | i was, not any more | 08:38 |
| popey | aha! | 08:38 |
| philballew | eureka! | 08:38 |
| popey | found it in /etc/init | 08:39 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 09:17 |
| philballew | hello | 09:18 |
| AlanBell | popey: is that lcx creating virtual machines? mine did that for ages | 09:31 |
| bkerensa | lxc is something else | 09:32 |
| philballew | juju brought my load up to 15 once | 09:34 |
| popey | AlanBell, i was using juju with lxc yes. | 09:34 |
| Daviey | philballew: you were probably using the deboostrap version? | 09:39 |
| AlanBell | popey: that will be /etc/init/juju-alan-local-file-storage.conf | 09:40 |
| AlanBell | and juju-alan-local-machine-agent.conf | 09:40 |
| AlanBell | and I don't even have to translate the filenames \o/ | 09:40 |
| philballew | Daviey, totally was | 09:44 |
| popey | :) | 09:45 |
| philballew | well I was bootstraping a lot of things | 09:47 |
| Daviey | philballew: juju now uses the cloud images, so it's a better experience | 10:03 |
| philballew | ah, seems nicer. | 10:04 |
| philballew | my home server is a pentium4 so not much runs well on that | 10:04 |
| * popey wonders why bkerensa is recommending people install ia32-libs on omg | 10:21 | |
| bkerensa | popey: because the .deb does not install the needed dependencies for amd64 | 10:22 |
| bkerensa | works fine once ia32-libs is installed | 10:22 |
| popey | but we're multi-arch now, ia32-libs isn't the way to fix that | 10:22 |
| popey | people should install the specific packages required | 10:23 |
| bkerensa | popey: I realize were multi-arch | 10:23 |
| popey | ia32-libs is a horrid mess to have people install | 10:23 |
| bkerensa | popey: force installing the depends does not resolve it | 10:25 |
| popey | I'm not suggesting force installing anything | 10:25 |
| popey | just apt-get install <package>:i386 | 10:25 |
| popey | for each i386 package required | 10:25 |
| popey | which does work, I've had it running like that for some time, and have not got ia32-libs installed | 10:26 |
| popey | sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libgcc1:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxau6:i386 libxcb1:i386 libxdmcp6:i386 | 10:29 |
| popey | that lot | 10:29 |
| bkerensa | I thought there was much more than that? | 10:29 |
| bkerensa | no? | 10:29 |
| popey | those are the main deps of the steam binary | 10:29 |
| popey | there may be some others | 10:29 |
| bkerensa | k | 10:29 |
| bkerensa | popey: libjpeg-turbo8:i386 libcurl3gnutls:i386 libogg0:i386 libpixman-1-0:i386 libsdl1.2debian:i386 libtheora0:i386 libvorbis0a:i386 libvorbisenc2:i386 libvorbisfile3:i386 libasound2:i386 | 10:32 |
| bkerensa | thats what I found | 10:33 |
| popey | looks good | 10:33 |
| bkerensa | popey: there updated | 10:35 |
| popey | sweet! thanks | 10:37 |
| czajkowski | popey: to the rescue ;0 | 10:38 |
| czajkowski | :) | 10:38 |
| bkerensa | popey: ahh see something is odd in their control because it said it just needed those but then prompts for install -f which installs all the transitioned libraries in ia32-libs anyways | 10:49 |
| popey | ew | 10:58 |
| bkerensa | popey: do you know if this will always be closed source? | 11:01 |
| popey | the steam client? | 11:04 |
| popey | thats a question for valve | 11:05 |
| bkerensa | ahh | 11:05 |
| bkerensa | k | 11:05 |
| popey | why would they open source it? | 11:05 |
| knome | as long as it can bring some gamers to linux, i don't care if it's closed source | 11:05 |
| bkerensa | well they could open source portions | 11:05 |
| bkerensa | like debian/ | 11:06 |
| bkerensa | in this case it might help resolving depends issues if we could see debian/control | 11:06 |
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| jcastro_ | buenas mornings! | 12:58 |
| popey | boyakasha! | 13:05 |
| jcastro_ | ok so serious sam3 is pretty fun | 13:06 |
| nigelb | Morning jcastro_! | 13:12 |
| AlanBell | bkerensa: didn't Canonical help them package it? | 13:45 |
| popey | valve are aware of the packaging issues | 13:53 |
| jcastro_ | from reading their forums it looks like it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be | 13:55 |
| jcastro_ | like, a bunch of little issues | 13:55 |
| jcastro_ | but nothing catastrophic | 13:55 |
| popey | do we have those issues collated somewhere? we have contact with valve and can pass them on | 13:58 |
| mhall119 | popey: is there a Launchpad project for it? | 13:59 |
| popey | no | 13:59 |
| popey | we have a private mailing list on which it gets discussed | 13:59 |
| mhall119 | could we make up with Valve as the upstream? | 13:59 |
| popey | i dont think they want that | 14:00 |
| mhall119 | popey: can we currently collect crash data for them with apport? | 14:01 |
| jcastro_ | popey: valve has a forum for the beta where people are reporting bugs | 14:03 |
| popey | indeed | 14:04 |
| popey | use the forums :) | 14:04 |
| * popey shudders a little | 14:04 | |
| mhall119 | what, no wiki? | 14:14 |
| * jcastro_ can't tell if you're being serious or joking. | 14:14 | |
| jcastro_ | :) | 14:14 |
| popey | should be a load more beta keys going out today | 14:20 |
| popey | only a few went out yesterday | 14:20 |
| balloons | I just installed it.. couldn't remember my password, and the only way to reset was to use the client.. heh | 14:22 |
| jcastro_ | heh I had the exact problem | 14:25 |
| jcastro_ | we have a hangout today right balloons? | 14:25 |
| mhall119 | popey: you mean they haven't all bypassed it via reddit? | 14:25 |
| mhall119 | impatient buggers | 14:25 |
| balloons | jcastro_, yes we should | 14:26 |
| balloons | my calendar is a mess due to the time zone switch | 14:27 |
| balloons | why o why can't google get it right.. | 14:27 |
| balloons | maybe because my local clock is in UTC? I don't know | 14:27 |
| popey | can someone mention me pls? | 14:27 |
| balloons | popey, popey popey popey popey popey popey popey popey | 14:28 |
| popey | hmm | 14:28 |
| popey | i set xchat to beep | 14:28 |
| popey | it failed to beep | 14:28 |
| jcastro_ | popey: | 14:28 |
| jcastro_ | hey popey | 14:28 |
| jcastro_ | popey: | 14:28 |
| popey | oh, no sounds defined | 14:29 |
| balloons | popey, do you have a sound file for th ebeep? | 14:29 |
| balloons | lol | 14:29 |
| popey | well thats dumb | 14:29 |
| balloons | balloons, | 14:29 |
| popey | popey, | 14:30 |
| czajkowski | popey: | 14:31 |
| popey | hmm, wonder where the bark sound is | 14:31 |
| czajkowski | what no cat | 14:33 |
| czajkowski | record sky | 14:33 |
| popey | /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/message-new-instant.oga will do | 14:34 |
| * popey scraps that idea | 14:35 | |
| popey | xchat just plays white noise | 14:35 |
| czajkowski | bah why wont HD videos play nicely on my laptop :/ | 14:38 |
| czajkowski | VLC makes people turn green | 14:38 |
| czajkowski | m player goes slow and then loses sound and then is fine again | 14:38 |
| czajkowski | most annoying | 14:38 |
| popey | i just use totem these days | 14:39 |
| czajkowski | hmm | 14:40 |
| czajkowski | shall try that | 14:40 |
| czajkowski | if I have to ask jon to use his to watch my movies I'll never hear the end of it | 14:40 |
| popey | are they 720p or 1080p? | 14:41 |
| balloons | czajkowski, I'd use vlc.. the green thing sounds like a conflicting codec issue | 14:41 |
| czajkowski | balloons: on 5 downloads:/ | 14:41 |
| Daviey | czajkowski: using 12.04? | 14:41 |
| popey | 6356 alan 20 0 698m 33m 5236 R 83 0.4 22:58.31 gwibber-service | 14:41 |
| popey | :( | 14:41 |
| czajkowski | popey: what does the totem icon look like | 14:41 |
| czajkowski | it says it's installed | 14:41 |
| czajkowski | but no can find :/ | 14:41 |
| popey | movie player | 14:41 |
| czajkowski | Daviey: 12.10 with precise kernel | 14:42 |
| czajkowski | popey: ahhh | 14:42 |
| Daviey | on 12.04, using nvidia binary drivers... I get green/blue flash videos | 14:42 |
| czajkowski | yes | 14:42 |
| popey | alan@deep-thought:~/.cache/gwibber/avatars$ ls | wc -l | 14:43 |
| popey | 24327 | 14:43 |
| popey | :S | 14:43 |
| knome | Daviey, right-click, go to settings and disable hardware acceleration? | 14:43 |
| Daviey | knome: Sounds like an awesome fix! :) | 14:45 |
| knome | Daviey, worked for me | 14:45 |
| AlanBell | Bug #967091 | Daviey | 14:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 967091 in adobe-flashplugin (Ubuntu) "Wrong tint in flash when it uses video acceleration" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967091 | 14:54 |
| czajkowski | wow filed back in march and 2 cycles later still not fixed :/ | 14:58 |
| czajkowski | over 500 people affected :( | 14:58 |
| Daviey | adobe rocks! | 15:08 |
| balloons | ohh.. lol, that's the bug | 15:17 |
| balloons | that's ok.. flash containers don't like to load anymore for me | 15:17 |
| balloons | I consider it a feature, in general | 15:18 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: I understand it has been fixed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/libvdpau/0.4.1-6ubuntu1 | 15:43 |
| AlanBell | bug 668512 | 15:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 668512 in GCalctool "Positive fractional power of zero is not undefined" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668512 | 15:43 |
| AlanBell | debian bug 668512 | 15:43 |
| ubot2 | Debian bug 668512 in libvdpau "libvdpau: patch to fix Adobe Flash Player crashes and blue tint" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/668512 | 15:43 |
| AlanBell | that didn't close the launchpad version of the bug | 15:43 |
| AlanBell | so Daviey, stop using old and busted 12.04 and move to the new hotness that is 12.10 | 15:44 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: I'm on 12.10 | 15:45 |
| AlanBell | do you have smurfs? | 15:46 |
| jono | dholbach, balloons, dholbach, jcastro_, dpm setting it up now | 16:00 |
| dpm | ok | 16:01 |
| jono | dholbach, balloons, dholbach, jcastro_, dpm invite sent | 16:01 |
| balloons | awesome | 16:02 |
| dpm | oops | 16:20 |
| nhandler | It is always nice when you start off an interview with the interviewer thanking you for your contributions to Ubuntu/Debian :) | 17:25 |
| technoviking | nhandler: :) | 17:36 |
| cprofitt | nhandler: nice | 17:47 |
| dholbach | alright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! | 17:49 |
| nhandler | Thanks technoviking and cprofitt | 17:55 |
| jono | balloons, ready? | 18:24 |
| jono | balloons, the call with Mark went over, hence being a bit late | 18:25 |
| balloons | no worries.. | 18:25 |
| balloons | let's roll | 18:25 |
| jono | balloons, setting it up now | 18:26 |
| jono | balloons, invite sent | 18:27 |
| bkerensa | jono: Do you have a quick second | 20:34 |
| * AlanBell tries to get summit working for UDS Saucy Sealion | 20:47 | |
| technoviking | AlanBell: Please let that be that name | 21:08 |
| * popey tickles technoviking | 21:10 | |
| AlanBell | http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/cam/ I should get rid of that pumpkin now | 21:30 |
| IdleOne | AlanBell: the speed the camera moves at is impressive | 22:01 |
| AlanBell | it is a good toy | 22:16 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: jon says put th camera back up | 22:24 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: he;s just gone and bought two! | 22:26 |
| AlanBell | heh | 22:27 |
| AlanBell | I might get another one | 22:27 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: please go to the door and wave at him | 22:27 |
| czajkowski | he's such a child | 22:27 |
| AlanBell | need one for the back so that the chickens can be seen | 22:27 |
| czajkowski | LOL | 22:27 |
| czajkowski | thanks AlanBell | 22:27 |
| czajkowski | I love IRC | 22:27 |
| AlanBell | a remote control AlanBell | 22:28 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: where is the code hosted ? | 22:28 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: you just made his evening | 22:28 |
| czajkowski | come back into surrey channel! :D | 22:28 |
| AlanBell | the server it is running on is right next to the camera, just behind the window | 22:29 |
| AlanBell | the code is rubbish, but here https://code.launchpad.net/~alanbell/+junk/camcontrol | 22:29 |
| czajkowski | thank you | 22:29 |
| AlanBell | I fully intend to fix that code so that other people can actually use it sensibly | 22:30 |
| czajkowski | nods | 22:30 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: come to #surrey @D | 22:30 |
| czajkowski | :) | 22:30 |
| AlanBell | that isn't on freenode, which network is it again? | 22:30 |
| czajkowski | irc.lug.org.uk | 22:30 |
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